No Jumper - Ola Runt on Doing 5 Years in Prison at Age 16 for Armed Robbery

Episode Date: July 25, 2020

This is Ola Runt's first ever interview! Ola talks about his entanglement with Gucci Mane, almost signing with Thug, working with Cinematic, King Von, Dababy, getting on a plane for the first time ever to do this interview and more! ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast on the world today. I feel like this might be the first real Ola Run interview. Yeah, the real, the first real interview for me. I'm saying, everybody's trying to get me doing an interview. I know. You're one of the hottest things smoking coming out of these streets right now, so I'm very, very excited for us to be able to have it first. So, appreciate you, Adam.

No doubt, man. I appreciate you. I feel like people really want to know about your history, like where exactly you're coming from. Let's talk about back in the day. Let's go into your early days. Where were you born and talk about the early days of your life? Me like, I'm from Elona.

Like, born and raised at L.A.L.A., like, I ain't really leave. I ain't really leave Atlanta, really, until really, like, got to see new things. When the music started cracking. When the music took off with me, like, when I, first time I went to a lot of places, you feel me. Uh-huh. I'm from Atlanta, though. Like, I'm from east side of Atlanta, like, East Atlanta. Okay.

Zone six? Zone six. Yeah, I'm from Zone six. So that's why Gucci thinks you. Yeah, like, yeah. That's what the close connection comes from? For sure. Okay.

What were your parents like? What were your parents like? Let's talk about, like, your actual childhood. Like, uh, my parents, like, my mom, my mom, she makes it happen. Like, my daddy, he, and he making him, like, both fun, really just hushless. Mm-hmm. I come from, like, a family of hustlers. My granddad, like, my granddaddy was.

Your granddaddy was? And my granddad was, like, he was more vicious. Like, my dad, he was real hushly. Okay. And my mom, she had real hushly, you know what I'm saying? What's some vicious shit that you've seen your grandfather do as a young man? I just used to hear about all his shit, like, but you know, your granddad got down, like, something from here, he problems and shit, like, he'd be in prison and shit.

They'd be telling me about him and shit, like, oh, he's going to get out. And I ain't never get to see him because he'll all the way go right back. I ain't know saying I'm getting catching up with him right so but then your relationship with your dad was different so you feel like they were fundamentally like two different types of people like your dad was the hustler type and your your grandfather was more the crazy type yeah so okay so what about your dad though

like when you say hustler like what kind of shit was he getting into that you and when did you start to know about it as a kid shit real young like I knew like when I was little like I knew my dad I was into the streets like I know he would I know he would get him out of the street I'm saying I ain't I ain't I really I know know what he was doing but I didn't really like I know he was out there doing some hmm so he never had like a job that you witnessed him going to or anything that was kind of off the table I never seen him with a job right I never seen him with a job so over time you just started to put the pieces

together and just be like oh all right he's he's getting money in a different way yeah probably by the time I were like nine or ten I probably I know what going on hmm what about your mom What was she like? What was her influence like? My mom, like, she really just always wanted the best for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, she was a real mother. You know what I'm saying? My mom, like, a real mother, like, wanted the best for her son, like, whatever situation. Okay, so what kind of student were you in school and shit?

And did your parents emphasize school? Did they make it out that school was a big deal? I like, yeah. Yeah, like, yo, like, my mom really, my mom really made it out to be a big deal, like, more than my dad or them. Mom, do it really just grishing this shit at first, too, you know what I'm saying? So she would push the value of education and stuff? Yeah, at first, yeah. You say at first, like, it didn't last for that long?

Yeah, like, till she just right, like, she really was just trying to, like, care about where I were going, I'm saying? Like, she was just more aware about where I were headed. I don't she really just seen stuff going, like, how she thought it was, when we go to college and stuff. So when did you start getting in trouble, like, when did it start to become? clear that you maybe weren't meant for the traditional educational system? Like when I got high school and I was like my grades like couldn't go to the next next you know what I'm saying? And eligible and shit.

So you were like consistently getting in trouble all through elementary and stuff but then once you get to high schools when it actually started to become clear like you were really getting kicked out of school and shit? I went to jail in high school. Really? Yeah. What age? 16.

16 for what? Like, I got a lot of breaking in cause, then when I was locked up for that, then they put other charges on me and I never got out. What were the other charges? Like, on rivalries and stuff. Was it true, or was it just stuff that they suspected you of? Or did they have any evidence? It was just really a lot of stuff going on. And I was just, like, caught up in it, like, got caught up, like, young nigga had the wrong place, the wrong time, like, doing, like, you know what I'm saying?

I did, like, five years after this shit got out. and now I'm here now like starting in high school you're five years so how old are you right now I'm 20 I just turned 24 like three days ago four days ago okay on the 10th July of 10 and you got five years for just breaking into cars and stuff was that kind of some of the first like crimes you were realistically committing when you were young yeah like yo just an easy way to get some money because you hadn't necessarily got super deep into different shows and just doing shit like just fast-cass shit I'm saying like he ain't leaks me and my partner we call them just

Licks. Like we just hit licks for fun. I'm saying, every day. Right. We call it Licks out here too. Yeah. Now you're walking lick. Now you're walking lick. Is that how it feels? You feel like a target now? Nah, these n n n niggas targets. The evening of walking licks. Just other other people are. Yeah, yeah, not me. Okay. I think Gucci might have invented the term walking lick. He might be. Pretty sure if we go back. Um, okay. So you get locked. So you get locked. up at 16 and then does everything change right there you not really consider the prospect

of you getting locked up for such a significant amount of time? Like, like, how do you feel when you first ended up getting caught up for this? Uh, I was just hoping I got a bond. You know what I'm saying? Like, they never gave me one. Real?

Never gave me one. So five fucking years. What was your life like in there and, like, how did that change everything for you? Get put on to all kinds of different shit you didn't know about beforehand? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Just growing up, like, they really like,

learn a lot, you know what I'm saying, growed up? Like, I learned how to be militant, you know what I'm saying? I learned militants and shit. Really just staying on point. What type of nigga this is? I know what type of nigga is here. I know what type of nigga is you, I know what type of nigga is you, I know what type of peep, I know how to peep shit out.

I'm saying, I know what type, before it ain't that, like, before it didn't get there, I can peep it. did they like embrace you in prison you feel like like i felt like this is basically a system where if you seem like you're kind of a bitch then you're gonna basically get treated that way and if you seem like you're solid then the older dudes are probably gonna kind of try to take you into that wing to a certain extent yeah i guess so that's true okay were you getting fucked up in jail or were you like actually were you focused like you know some people go to jail they just get fucked up they get drugs in there whatever some people go to jail

they get on the workout shit they start reading books i will focus like i will focus like that way i really like start doing their music shit that oh so you start writing in there primarily yeah that's where i really start like like put more time into like put put put put a lot of that time into the music i say i'd be like 24 hours in the day like i spend spend like a couple hours out every day jay faking with some music type shit like we bored the fault and be just the shit to do right Had you ever thought about that before you got locked up, the music side of things? Like, I really never, like, seen myself, like, just, you know what I'm saying? Like, going with this shit, like, until I got out, and I put my mind on this shit, like, that's what I'm going to do.

I used to tell everybody in jail, like, when I get out from the rap, like, you tell everybody, though, like, I get out, bro, I'm real, I'm going to be on TV with this shit. Four used to used to be, like, some folks didn't believe me, but a lot of my real boy, like, they really believe me, like, I'm like they'll see me right now they'll die on me or shit I'm like, but you said you're gonna do that shit boy right you said you're gonna do that shit boy you really did that shit way

right like hell man got how I was playing so it's kind of weird being from East Atlanta because there's so many legendary rappers from there but when you were a kid

you might you know it's very hard for you as a young person as a 13 year old to be able to like draw the line from you to Gucci and realize that you were basically in the exact same position that Gucci was when he was a young

young man. I'm not the same area. But did you have anybody that you were looking at that actually made you feel like you could possibly accomplish that dream? Because the average person growing up in that environment just doesn't really know, they haven't seen it in front of their own eyes, see somebody make it. Shit, I hadn't seen, like, I hadn't seen future making. I seen, like, young school.

I had seen them, like, he used to shoot videos in my hood. They just see them, like, they just see them boy at Prague City, like, just go from up up up and up I seen it go from this car to this color this chain to this chain this to this to this drop to this drill I seen them what whole stage I'm saying I already knew I can do it like I just know I just know I'm saying had a had some support in my hood that's all I need it with my hood and that's all I needed with my hood and that's all I needed with my hood. Right.

My hood were with me, so we went with it. Right. But so, okay, so then you're just writing a lot of lyrics and shit in prison. Then what's it like when you get out, and what's the plan when you get out? And what do you go back to? Because, I mean, there's a big difference between being 16 and 21 in terms of all the shit that might probably change in between. It really just like, when I got out, I really ain't just like, say album, should be a rap.

you just want find out how we're going to get some money, you know what I'm saying? I ain't been out since I was 16, get out 2 in the 1, trying to figure out how they're out of what they're off and do, you feel? And got down,

my mama had, and my mom had and got me to deal a job. But that shit didn't lay along. That shit like a couple weeks, like two weeks. Where was the job? He was like at a cold house. Coldstone or some shit like that. Coldstone?

The ice cream place? No, cold, some shit, cold warehouse or something. shit. A warehouse type job? Yeah. Okay. I had to wear a cold suit though. It'd be cold in like a refrigerated environment or some shit? Yeah, some shit like it. Okay. And you didn't fuck with it? I'm guessing.

I just didn't really go. I just started going. Right. I'm just doing a lot of shit. I found myself back in the street doing like a whole lot of shit. So my dad had and I really got him in the studio because I Folks telling him like, but your son, you feel him, like, he hauled up with this shit. And did your dad have any connections to people in the music industry, or what was your dad's perspective? Where did he put you at?

He had the streets. I'm saying, he had the connections in the street, not really the industry. I really like, I did all my groundwork. I did, I did all the industry shit. I myself. I wouldn't, you know what I'm saying? I made this shit how myself, like, with the industry. Appreciate. But did you really, like, have any connections? Do you really know anybody at that point when you're getting out of prison and stuff? Because it's like, you know, it's very hard to make that first step of, like, having somebody see the potential in you to even want to give you a chance to get in the studio at first.

You're saying like, like, what you said? What you at me? Well, just like who did you have any connections at anybody? Like, who would you end up in going to the studio with at first? And how are you getting yourself out there? You hadn't actually recording anything. See, I ended up. I figured I ended up going to studio with my boy done. Okay. He was a rapper like, you know what I'm saying? He had a little boy. He was buzzing hard and that long of the time, you feel. So he ended up taking me to the thrill.

And then eventually got down, Aliboy ended up pulling up to my studio. Mm-hmm. He ended up exposing some of my music on hip page and shit. Let me meet some other people, you know what I'm saying? Who, at that time, who would you say that you were influenced by? because you got a pretty crazy-ass style. There's not a lot of people coming out of Atlanta right now that rap anything like the way that you're rapping.

Sure, I really did. I don't really do my own thing, you feel? I don't be trying to sound like nobody, but they'll still compare me and say I sign like somebody like, this and that. But I don't be trying to sound like a little guy. I don't try to, you know what I'm saying? But I got some influences I fought with, like,

I'm saying, I fought with a lot of, like, The rappers is going It's going hard right now I'm saying Right I listen to their music Like I ain't ever Worked with them

I listen to ride away Storn to Vegas NBA young boy Right Like tight shit I'm saying Rapper from Atlanta I listen to them too

I'm saying A little baby To me When I listen to you I hear a lot of the energy Or a certain style That I remember from the old thug Yeah for sure

Thugs old shit Because thug Thug cleaned up A style of shit load over the years and he sounds a lot more like he flows a little bit more like normal and shit whereas with you i feel like you have a lot of that old thug energy where you're picking a different flow every fucking verse is switching between a whole bunch of different shit you're always fucking with different styles and it's actually really excited to listen to that's why i'm a fan

yeah like i grow up on an old though like a school middle school like listen to this shit definitely all his shit i feel like he's definitely one of the most influential rappers of the the last 10 years. Yeah. He more definitely got down, let you know you can do it. Right. So you start,

like with Allie Boy, all that shit, you're in the studio in Atlanta and stuff. When do you start to get to the point where you are putting music out or who's actually taking notice as this is being worked on? Shit, my hood for, like,

my hood really just noticed me for a light. I want to just start shooting video outside and shit, like, yeah, I can't listen to the song. Like, they didn't even know the song, but by the time the end of the video shoot, my husband, I know the song, you feel? Right.

Yeah, I know that bit. So they just, like, influence me to keep going, like, but when you're in that video shoot it, when I come out and say, I know, like, but when you're going to shoot this? Like, when are you going to shoot this? I'm like, shit, call the cameraman, like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't really like to give a fuck if I had a haircut

and give a fuck what I had on. Man, it was just like, we were just going with this shit. Definitely. It was just organic, like, That's where the Ola run name come from? Really like before I got that a couple my a couple my bro really named me that Is it related to Ola player who used to be on a lot of older thug tracks and shit like that? I was wondering if you guys were from similar neighborhood or something.

Nah yeah and I ain't got anything to do with him okay so you don't know what's the name mean though that they gave it to you like you know what's I just made it I made it I made the acronym out of figure about it like on the love the little ammunition and then run like the rants like i'm out here i'm out here right now with the rants with the real rants people like but screw in my head with the rins okay at first what just because you were the younger dudes in the neighborhood yeah sure got it um okay so what was the the first like official video you did and shit the first time that you really felt the shit was taken off when i shot or a video called came too far okay but ain't really go up like they like All my day one fan know this song, man, I'm saying.

A lot of like people who know, like, they just know my, like, know my popular songs. But like, can't too far, they really gave me, like, the motivation, did she really like, go crazy, like, go, like, everybody flicking with this shit, man. I got a little kid knowing this shit, like, old folk knowing this shit, this shit going crazy. Definitely.

So was the feeling like goo-wop song? Was that one of the songs? Because I feel like that was when I first heard you. I feel like that that song kind of took it to a different level. Yeah, like, that's the one that took me to another level, though. Like, I linked up with a cameraman named with Diesel. Okay. Yeah, like, these were, like, everybody was shooting video with Diesel at the time.

A lot of popular art that was shown with him. So when he shot me, when he shot my first video, and they shoot just went out of it, like, the whole city, my old city. Like, they loved that song, you know what I'm saying? Like, little babies love this song. People call me, like, but you got the world with these songs, I'm saying. So that's when you first had people like, baby and shit reaching out to you and actually letting you know that they fuck with the music.

That must have give you a different level of confidence. Not like, baby actually reached out to me before I dropped, like, go out on. I drop, uh, Brazier Story and I had remake King Vine. Crazy story. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? That one, like, that one everybody really woke up. Like, everybody really woke up on me, like, like, hold on.

like he gotta be heard. You feel him like, but he ain't, but he ain't going for just y'all not him or him. Like, so he started showing me out like, yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody likes to hear somebody who's just doing something different and somebody who's coming with an exciting style. Like, like, they'll shot me out,

but they won't follow my page. He'd be like, he'll shot me out and shit. That's the weird thing, being from Atlanta coming up, it's kind of like, you'll have a bunch of people who fuck with your music, who want to support it, but then at the same time, they know that you're going to end up clicking up with somebody or some rapper or something,

and they don't want to necessarily co-sign you unless they're involved with you on a business level, right? Because I know that you have all these people showing love, but then ultimately those people want to sign you. They want you to make a bunch of money, but they want to make some of the money too. Sure. So that's exactly what it would be like.

I'm JBI. They're like, I'm saying. They'd be trying to sign you. They'd be intentions on that shit. You feel? Yeah. And everybody don't be having no real, real, pure intention. They just it.

Yeah, it's kind of crazy because it's like I built everything I got going on with the podcast, whatever. It's all because I just gave people a little attention, gave somebody a boost in their career. And I never tried to get in there and sign them or, like, get involved like that. And I definitely would never try to hold it up. Like, I could give you an interview. I could help promote you. I could put you on, get you more followers attention, whatever. but you got a sign to me.

I mean, I don't know, that's kind of crazy. I feel like you got to just show love for the sake of showing love. Yeah, yeah. Ain't no love at all. This shit's shy. There's no love about it bit, man. Especially in this shit, like,

like, this shit, too. This shit deep, like, love and this shit. So who do you end up? Because you signs are a label, right? When did that actually happen? Because even before the Gucci shit, and everything you end up sign that contract, right? Like, before the good shit, I think, well, let me see.

The old tried to sign me. Okay. He caught my first time with him, like, you know what I'm saying? We talked, what I'm saying? Then, son of my seventh and seven, we tried to sign. He gave it off from me some little money, like, but it wasn't really enough, you feel? Uh-huh.

Let me see, well. Then he got down, I DM a little babe, like, but come get me, you feel? Like, but I couldn't get him. So he did him back, like, he was going to see what sort, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's fucking with me. He definitely fucking with me, but he's going to see what's up all right. And I got down, that was it.

Then I just kept working. I just kept doing show, kept going, you know what I'm saying? And I had an A&R for Cinematic. Right. Sean, the name Sean. My boy, Sean, reached out to me. He got me up out of him. Like, he really got me up out of him.

that's who got me about it. So you had a bunch of people paying attention and showing love to a certain extent. What kept you from really going for it though? Because there's a lot of people if they got on the phone with thud

that would be like the greatest thing that ever happened in their life they didn't sign the contract the next day. What kept me from Jay gone like for a lot of shit like my bro and I'm saying like

and we don't build we don't build this shit from the ground up we just couldn't like we had to be in the right situation. You know what I'm saying? For everybody like my whole. whole hood on my back like you know ain't no kelp and i'm saying this shit this shit real this shit deep

my whole hood will fought me for doing some darn shit some stupid shit um please it's kind of crazy because like on one hand you know that if you were to sign to one of these artists and shit where it would really be popping off that like ultimately that artist's gonna help you a lot but you also know there's a big-ass wrist that you're gonna sign and then there's five other rappers that need to get their projects put out before you and they're just gonna slow up you your momentum and all of a sudden the heat that you got right now might have fizzled out by the time you really get to put shit out is that is that it's good that you knew that all that got something to do with it you know what I'm saying I got to think about all that when you want to build boss in this shit you know what I'm saying you really want to know what you want longevity like you can you can be papar for a little minute like yeah but hell now they're trying to got down right niggie trying to got down he needs a letter um um um Okay, but so, but so you signed a cinematic and then like how does shit start progressing from there?

Like, like, I signed a cinematic out down. I signed the cinematic out now. It was up. I had on went to got down. Other label tried to get me for cinematic, you know what I'm saying? Like other labels, I don't forgot, like 300 a couple more. Like, I don't know, Dev Jam, Empire. It was a lot. It was a lot. I don't know. She was a couple. I don't want to name out of. I was going to means and shit. They had me going to means and shit. I'm going to means and shit. Like, going to Calais and shit.

But I want, I want to get on no airplane. So I leave for telling me to pull up. Right. They're telling me to pull up. But I'm telling them I want to sprint. I'm like, I'm bringing my whole hood with me. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to get on the plane? Why? You're just not feeling it? I just weren't feeling it. I went feeling the plane shit. Okay. Tell them to send the sprinter? Because you trying to bring all the homies to New York to go to the label meetings? Hey, yeah. We're going to lay a meeting deeper fort.

Like, we're going to carry to the whole gang. Right. Yeah. When you start getting on the flights, though? You give in after a while? Yeah, yeah. I just gave him. They come here.

This was your first flight? Yeah, I'll get my first flight. What? You picked a hell of a time, too. Ain't that motherfucker. Ain't that motherfucker took out crazy here. Really? Yeah, yeah

Was it scary? Like, was that feeling Like, I've been on an airplane Since I was a kid So I can't imagine What would be like to do it For the first time as an adult Yeah, it was great though

It was great Once that's, once that's It's moved and that Yeah, once it levels out, it's all good, right? Yeah, okay. That's good. Okay, so when do the conversations

with Gucci start happening? Like, how'd that go? Like, doing coronavirus, like when corona had heat, quarantine-type shit. I had a manager I was fucking with down in Miami and got down he always told him like he cool gooching and shit he cool gooch and shit like that but shit I wasn't really got down trying to get the big head about the shit you feel right because I had been

made to feel like go out shit so I'd be like the go out won't reach out I'd been had to him too so I went really like standing shit like shit like I ain't really standing You know Guaup. When you made that song, was that partially the plan? Like, I'm going to make a song that mentions Guwop, and then he's going to see it, and then he's going to want to show love. No, hey, nah, they weren't the plan. Okay.

The plan was, like, just how I feel, like, that's how I feel. And that's how I feel like, get your shooter shot. Right. It's how it's how it's a ball to me. It's funny how a lot of rappers seem to hit that point in their career with, you know, I kind of feel like Gucci right now because, like, probably one of the hardest lyrics the last year was I feel like Gucci made in 2006. You got like a very iconic bar as well saying the same thing.

At a certain point, you know, you just feel like Gucci. Yeah, for sure. It is what it is. So I had to, but, Gucci. So you head down to Miami and you end up linking up? Yeah, I head down to Miami like, I hadn't seen him in the club, but he didn't see me, right? But I had on, when I was down up, but then I had to end up, he ended up calling my phone, he didn't hear my phone. Like, this walk.

So I ended up, we end up talking and shit. just went from there like he like he like he ended up just doing doing the research on me you feel and he like him with out like the twin shit we're evil twins and all this shit you know what I'm saying he would hear me early calling me early hell in the morning and shit like yeah I would I'm saying how that shit woke what was the chemistry like between you guys though because you're like from the same place as him but he's had 20 years or not 20 but you know 13, 14, 15 years of being rich and in and out of jail and all kinds of crazy ass shit.

Like, what was it like talking to him? Because on one hand, he's like just a dude from your hood, roughly. And on the other hand, he's, you know, one of the most legendary rappers all the time. What was it like having those conversations and shit? Man, fuck. And then Gucci got that crazy hell, man. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Gucci.

That's my brother. Like, we were talking about it. We'd be talking about it. All the type of shit, you know what I'm saying? We talk about these muses, this shit, though, like, this shit, this shit, this shit, fun, you really just tell me, like, this shit really can get you. If I stay out of trouble, like, you know what I'm saying?

This shit can get you got down, a lot of money. Yeah, really got down making it in this shit. Take a lot of folk doing this shit, you know what I read of conversation used to be by, like, we're just trying to help me out, you know what I'm saying? He used to like, he's, like, he's, he's, he seen myself in him, like, he named my lad and me to take begging for a battle, like, he named it if he shit like that

right okay but so was he talking about how he was trying to do a new label and shit because around the time he was trying to yeah he tried to sign me he tried to sign me

he tried to take me front something from cinematic I wouldn't really like an issue though I wouldn't really I went really like trying to just I ain't go for it

you know what I didn't really go I went trying to go I would try to get him to merge, do some shit like, merge that we did, we worked some little shit out, but I went an angel to sign a song. Right. So you have an aversion to sign them with an artist? Did you kind of know that from the beginning that you didn't want to, even if they were

really big, you didn't necessarily want to sign to an artist? Like, probably when I first got out, I might would have did something like that. Like, but once I had to, had to got them, like, like, get out there and learn. this shit once I learned this shit I learned this shit I just know I learned this shit right so did you have an agreement with Gucci at a certain point that you guys were gonna work together yeah yeah like I want like I want to fuck with him like I don't see I just want this shit to be I want this shit to make sense right man but that shit was like now this shit going this shouldn't be she'd be crazy

yeah well how did it fall apart or what happened because Like, you know, people, people definitely at home are going to want to understand exactly what happened there and everything. Because you guys publicly had a little bit of a feud unfolding on Instagram or whatever. Shit, man. You know, it's like, it was just like, I help you. You help me. You know what I'm saying? I help, I'm saying.

That's how this shit was. Right. Leave it at day. I feel like it was probably a situation if I had to. to guess where he's been in the game for a long as time he knows exactly how he wants shit to unfold and then meanwhile you you got your own mentality about how you want to do shit and it seems like he's not somebody who's going to be really open-minded to you having your opinion how it's just supposed to go down and then meanwhile you yeah we just

a bunt head by shit like want she want me to get down be cool and shit you know what I'm saying want me to be cool and shit but that ain't me like I ain't in this shit but for no features you feel me I ain't in this shit to be cool no nigga I mean this shit got down I'm gonna get that bad

out of my shit I'm saying so he didn't want you to be what whaling out on Instagram or talking shit about other rappers or what was it I don't know shit like it's just all type of shit you know I mean

you really like and get into right like that you know what I'm saying but there's like different little scenarios and shit like all the way I ain't you know ain't like ain't like I ain't like yeah yeah I just I just I just want that payboard and make sense too before we for we can't really talk really like talk deep deep into like what I'm saying about some shit right so when you guys did the feeling like goo-op remix and stuff you didn't have any kind of or anything, was that still during the period of him basically trying to get you to sign with him? After we had no work something out, like, I had not worked some of this shit that.

He got there and produced my tape from that shit. Right. Watch some of the shit of that. A little player shit, I'd thank him for you for him. Salute, like, he ain't had to do that shit. But then there's a new video that came out, like last week, Gucci and I think, Poo Shai Stee or Fujianna. I forget which one, but then you're listed as being on the song,

but then your verse isn't actually in the song or in the video. Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't even know anything about this shit. Like, folks be tagging me in this shit. I just be like, that shit be funny in hell. Like, that shit be funny in here to me. I'm saying. So you don't know why you actually aren't in the video?

I'm assuming that you actually did record a verse to that song. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about a lot when they tried the video. but I don't think I will

or didn't know nobody called me and then but then it's weird that they would still put you in the title of the music video yeah it's just this shit weird man this shit

the industry shit this shit weird they fuck so okay that that didn't work out do you ever talk to Gucci anymore do you feel like that's like officially over you probably ain't gonna be cool after this because you didn't sign I don't give a kid about

like being cool or not he called me right I'm saying like I don't I got in my number my number still the same right right all right so are you optimistic about that you think that things will work out or that you guys would be able to work together or you just kind of yeah like ain't yeah yeah yeah yeah I still got shit he artists and shut out song we already when you drop he want to drop him drop him I don't give a fuck mm I'm gonna do me your sign Gotcha. Okay.

So do you feel like, are you, are you somebody who you think you could actually, like, follow orders and be, like, a soldier on somebody's crew? Or do you feel like you're sort of meant to be a leader? Yeah. Yeah. I got my own artists.

Okay. Yeah. I got my own artists and shit. I got my own label and shit. You know what I'm saying? Who's the artist that you're fucking with primarily? People that you grew up around and shit? Yeah, like, from my neighborhood,

some bros at my hood and bro from Atlanta who I'm gonna help him got down push I'm right front street that said of front street that's your your label yeah front street okay that's what so right um came a hard like we came this year right got a couple artists and come you try to work on getting them signing shit like the way that people try to sign you for sure yeah yeah I'm trying to work on changing their whole life like I'm working on doing getting them out of it right

um we were supposed to do this interview like a month or two ago but then you ended up getting locked up and there was a crazy ass police chase that was partially caught on Instagram live what happened there I really just I don't know my issue is I don't know

poli following me I think I don't know but you ended up just going on a run trying to outrun them yeah yeah I and I didn't speak about it. My lawyer, my lawyer's open, don't speak about it.

Right. You're still dealing with that, obviously? Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, so where's your mentality at now? It feels like a lot of rappers, the whole deal is that they want to get signed. They want to get clicked up with the right people and shit. It seems like you kind of have decided to go your own way that you'd rather be your own sort of independent entity.

Not independent, but, you know, you're just trying to do shit your own way? For sure. like, I'm coming out on top my own way. They're not trying to do like, that my own mind and this shit. I ain't really trying to have another nigga in on me. Right. Yeah. Got you.

Did you have a relationship with Ralo? Do you know him before he got locked up and shit? I heard you shutting out a fan tagging. No, I just like, I listen to Rolo shit. Like, that's somebody that I listen to, like, on, like, I listen to Rolo and I like, going through some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, Rallo, that's pretty crazy situation. He seems like he just came home. He beat the fucking Fed Gates, like nobody's supposed to. Him and all his boys kept the mouth shut. That doesn't normally happen these days. Rallow got down and take care of all your people, you know what I mean? He makes sure he everybody's great.

Right. I mean, that's crazy. He's coming home basically like a fucking legend or a hero in a lot of ways whereas a lot of people come home and they get kind of the opposite treatment because they ended up talking or whatever. Sure. It's kind of nice. It's nice to see the old way of doing things still exists. I salute, Rallo, man.

Famerical. Facts. So how did you end up? I watched this long-ass Instagram live with you and some tension popping up with a got it. Where did they come from? I don't know. I think he's just mad. He probably got mad.

I ain't put him on a remit. He sort of feel like grew up. He wanted to be on that. He wanted to be on that. They really why he got mad because he was just like, when I met him, when I first met him,

I ain't even known. He knew me like, like I knew he walked or he, like, you know what I said? I knew he and I knew he and ain't, I didn't look at it, but I ain't expect him to be like, hey, Ola, come get in my video.

You feel him? Right. I ain't known. Like, when he got in his video. Like, he just got mad. Like, he just posted on Instagram. I'm for Ola. Damn, he posted that?

I don't know. Like, they were showing me. He would take it down. Like, I don't know. That's crazy. Like, two minutes or some shit. So how you feel about that, though? Is that something where you feel like you are supposed to do something about that situation?

Or is it good enough to just ignore him after that? Yeah, like, people, they know me. Like, people, I ain't beefing in any, man. You seem pretty level-headed, though, for somebody who, I'm sure that in the past you've had situations where people talk shit about you and you handled a certain way. You seem pretty level-headed about how you plan on handling your beefs from here on out as an actual rap star, right? Yeah, for sure. I just see, like, I see what going on.

I hear, like, rap shit, like, a lot of rap would be getting targeted by shit. I'm other shit about the police and shit. I'm really just trying to stay free, you feel. Hmm. Because how long have you been free? It's only been, what, a couple years? Like two years? A year?

Yeah, like three years. I'm going on three years instead of September, right? Okay. And you haven't really had too much serious trouble with the cops since then? Yeah. I rather than I didn't speak on it, though. Okay. So where's your mentality at now in terms of, like,

I've seen you putting out some new videos and stuff, but is there a project that you're planning? Or, like, what do you feel like you need to do to do? kind of take shit to the next level or get, you know, make a, a big moment for the culture. Just keep dropping. It's all I got to do, keep dropping. Like, you know what I'm saying? I got my net project.

I'm from the drop how harder to kill. Gucci really came up with that name. I'm just going with it. Because he had a hard-to-kill tape, right? Yeah. He had a hard to kill, but he wanted me to come out with hard-or-to-kill. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, me and me were going on right now. like I start with it. I ain't going to chain the name, but I'm trying. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to drop that. And I'm from to drop that. I'm from the foot the streets up with it. Right. You feel like people really want to kill you? Yeah, that I feel like, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I just feel like I got to stay on point. Definitely got to stay on point. But do you feel like that, does that kind of haunt you? I mean, let's be real, we've seen a lot of rappers run into a lot of problems in the hometowns over the past couple years it's like you feel like you know you got to really be on your peas and cues in Atlanta because it's definitely somebody who might be jealous or wanting to do something to you yeah you got a standpoint the down point everywhere you go really I'm saying but especially in your hometown because like people really like might know how you move

know where your folks stay at you know what I'm saying like know where your hangout spots and shit be it so you really got to know where gas station you go to doing shit, you know what I'm saying? It goes down to the gas station. Go down here or what? Go down. You know what I'm saying? You move.

Going to go out of the other, though. Mm. That's smart. I never thought about that before. Okay. And so, are there any artists in particular that you'd like to work with that you haven't worked with yet, or is anybody, like, I don't know. What's your attitude on the whole rap game?

Is it, are you planning on just doing you? Or is just like people that you want to work with? It's like a lot of artists I want to work with. I ain't worked with. Whoever really I ain't worked with. I want to work with like the artist I name. I'm saying. Storn to Vegas.

Broadway. I'm saying NBA young boy. Well, ratty rich. Shit like that, man. You're trying to go build these shit. Definitely. Yeah. Do you still get tested?

Like, you still on probation and shit? They still test you for drugs? Yeah. How's that going? What's the PO officer like? I pass. You pass on a regular basis. That's good.

They don't care about weed? Yeah. Yeah, they care about weed. That's K2 weed, so you can get tested and it won't. It'll come back clean. Yeah. There we go. All right.

Good to know. Anything else we need to know? The next tape's harder to kill. Yeah, harder to kill, then I got another tape coming out to that. Like, you know, I got another tape coming out after that. I'm saying, yeah, I had to eat more for a really, already done and I already made. I just got to really just put them out, I'm saying. Right.

I'm coming, like, I'm coming. Like, I'm really coming. Like, I got a plan, like, get outside of it. Definitely. You got, that watch looks pretty expensive. How do you feel about your financial? situation right now that you feel pretty comfortable or you know you feel like you made it at all I feel like I made it I feel like I made it real shit right hey yeah but it's still a long way to go

there's still a lot you could do ain't nowhere near done like I just started I just started but ain't you got to do no other shit yeah I you got to see it in front of one of these in front of one of the D, motherfucker. And there it is. The hell of a way to make it. And just flip. Just flip what I got. Thanks.

Anybody you want to shout out? Anything you want to tell them to look forward to? Let me see. I just want to, you know what I'm saying? Shout out of my hood. Shout out of everybody who really, you know, been rocking every since. Like, played both sides, you know what I'm saying?

Everybody who got down really solid, the salad. There it is. My hood. Cinematic. Sean. Shout out Johnny Shipes. Johnny Shipes.

Johnny Shipe, definitely for show. Sean Mullah. You got white friends now. Yeah, for real. Like, black line matter still, but I love my bro. I love, I love my bros. Like, you know, you're my bro. Hey, we're out here.

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I don't care that shit, man. I die of COVID. You scared? You worried at all about that? I had a lot of people in Atlanta telling me that ain't nothing changed in Atlanta. I really like it. Yeah.

Hey yeah, they're really on chain. And then they're still like no social distancing. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, everybody out there, be careful and wear a mask. That might be the first time I said that on here so far. Appreciate you, G.