No Jumper - Osbe Chill on The Jungles, Touring with The Game During His Meek Mill & More

Episode Date: August 13, 2022

OSBE talks about his come-up, working with #TheGame, signing to a label, going independent, bringing new artists to the forefront, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 2:30 - Growing up in The Jungles aka Bal...dwin Village 4:54 - Been throwing up the set his whole life. Growing up in a Muslim household 6:05 - Growing up in a strict Muslim household. Getting made fun of for wearing a coofie. Being called “Muslim blood” 10:12 - Getting laughed out of the studio after recording his first verse 11:00 - Mom wasn’t supportive of rap at first. Wanted him to go to college. Messing up an opportunity to go to Julliard to play trumpet 12:26 - Supporting all the artists from his section: Baby Stone Gorillas, Slumlord, Chucksta 12:51 - The Game gave him the opportunity to be in the studio and play music for Dr. Dre 14:37 - Meeting The Game at his studio. Recording a song for his album and getting invited on tour the same day 17:51 - Going on tour with The Game during the middle of his beef with Meek Mill 19:26 - All the cars from the tour got sh*t up outside the hotel the same day Game dissed Meek Mill 21:23 - Signing to Interscope instead of Wack100 and Birdman 22:40 - Getting shelved by Interscope and getting out of his deal to go independent 32:14 - Applying the lessons he learned from the label to his independent career. Not giving out game for free 34:03 - Getting a Death Row chain from The Game that was originally made for Dr. Dre 35:55 - Dazy Lyn joins to explain how she met Osbe and how she met Game 10 years ago 39:25 - Dazy knows all the words to every Biggie and Tupac song. Was rapping in secret for 10 years 42:20 - Holds her ground when T Rell tries to put her on the spot to rap 43:08 - Dazy’s new song “Chills” is out right now and a lot of new singles are on the way. Says her song with Osbe makes her cry 45:20 - Asad Ill joins the pod. Growing up having the same dad as Osbe 48:46 - Asad on growing up in The Jungles. Staying away from gangbanging 52:36 - Chucksta joins the pod to show off his iced-out red Chucks chain 53:46 - Chucksta on being versatile, rapping and singing like Osbe 58:50 - Chucksta spits a freestyle ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! nojumper.com SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, y'all, I'm back, man. I'm here with my boy Ozby Chill. Like I said, man, I'm bringing people up all week. I feel like I need to be, that need to be highlighted, you feel me? That need a little bit more recognition for what they got going on in this music industry, man. Again, my boy, I always be chill with it do. Max. Appreciate you for having me, my boy.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yes, sir. You feel me? Yeah. What you've been up to out here, man? Man, for the most. Most part, family shit, taking care of my little ones and shit, you feel me, grinding. Studio every day, just going through the motions, bow, you feel me? Yeah, what's you working on?
Starting point is 00:00:41 Shit, I got an album from the drop called True to Self, you feel me? I ain't really got no date on it yet, but it's coming ASAP real soon. And yeah, shit, just been working on that. My boy, Python, he produced for Absol and shit, he producing the whole thing. and how the family life's treating you, man. It's good. I like it. My son just graduated from kindergarten and shit.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm sitting there watching this little kindergarten show and shit. I like that. How many kids you got? I got two. I got a son and a daughter. Yeah, I mean, I got three little ones. I mean, my oldest daughter is 13, so she don't even count. She's grown as a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:17 But my three little ones, I'd be tired as a bitch. You feel? I ain't even going to eye to you, bro. Not, especially the babies. They have you up all night. What? That, nigga, shit, she eight months right now. Well, shit, nine months.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And then my other baby, she just went, like, just graduated kindergarten. My daughter's six months. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah, we're going through the same little shit. Exactly. We ain't going to, yeah, yeah, every three, I, four, I'm saying, milk, you know what I'm saying? Cry and pick you up. I'm tired, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'll be wanting to say, man, I'm going to put your ass down. No, to real. Yeah, I fuck with it, though, man. Yeah, but I'm checking you out, man. You feel me? like it ain't like the traditional you feel me the uh la west coast you saying shit you feel me with you know key it is low key you'll say as far as visual the original the original west coast type of shit you know yeah bars though yeah in the way you're rapping and how you presenting it
Starting point is 00:02:15 you feel me like yeah now it's kind of like i don't know you know it's hit miss though but i really love what you doing you feel i appreciate it yeah so i mean for those who don't know you You feel me? Let's, you know, let's start from the beginning. You feel me? Like, let's start from, you know, Ozby chill before Ozby was Ozby chill. Oh, shit. Before that, shit.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Everybody called the nigga Boothill. Just my last name. Look at me. You feel me? Growing up at Baldwin Village, you know, going to Dorsey, shit like that. You feel me? Like, just. Ballin Village, letting niggas know what all of all of years.
Starting point is 00:02:49 The jungles, to be exact. You feel me? That was a cool name. Yeah, that was a cool name, you know what I'm saying? Ballin Village. That's what it's called. You feel? Yeah, but no, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That's what the street sign say, man. Yeah, do it, do it, do it. I mean, but that is a cool name if you, with some white people, niggas, ask you where you from. Yeah, it's the village. It's the village right beneath the hills, you feel me? Yeah, we got money over there, man.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, but you from the jungles. Yeah, the jungles, y'all. grew up in the jungles. Yeah, man, hell yeah. From, like, since you was born. Yeah, pretty much. As far as I can remember, you feel me? A little-ass kid running around.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You feel me? Jumping on the back of the fruit trucks and running to the ice cream trucks and shit like that. Playing with pop guns. Yeah, because I'm like, Tell people how that is growing up in the jungles.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I mean, because people like... Playing with pop guns, throwing sand in your friend's face, fighting, slapboxing, all that little shit. You feel me? Like, Brennan just doing bad shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Like, I look back at that shit like, damn, we were just running through the community, just running wild. Yeah. Be back home when you got to be home, shit like that. I mean, me being from, you know, a little bit further, you know what I'm saying, east.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I always wanted to go to the jungles, you know what I'm saying? It ain't just like all friendly popping guns, like you said, hopping on the food truck. Yeah, but when you're a kid, you're going to go fuck with it. When you're a kid, you don't think about that shit, though. You feel me? Everything just looked cool to you as a kid. You feel me? You know, you see the older homies gang bang and flamed up, but that shit normal to you, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah, I mean, I went over there too as a kid. It, that, it wasn't, that one treated me like a kid. Niggas was like, hey, homie, but I'm like, hey, I'm like, you got to be from over there, though. Even the kids are going to be on you. Yeah, it's like, damn, nigga. Like, you know, you feel me? But that's how, you know, seeing your older homies and shit influence you to do, you know what I'm saying, actually start gangbagging and shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. Damn. So for the most part, you feel it's a nice community, you know what I mean? It is really nice. Yeah. I'm not even going to lie to you. It definitely is a nice community. At what age, did you?
Starting point is 00:04:55 But like, you know what? I'm going to get put on this shit. The nigga been throwing up to set all his life, you feel me? Yeah. I'm real. I ain't really feeling. I don't really want to talk about too much gang shit, though.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I ain't trying to incriminate myself or nothing like that. But yeah, let's talk about the music and shit. No, we get on the music. You know what I'm saying? We got to get a start. You know what I want to know where it's start from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Nigger been banging a set all his life, you feel me? Yeah. On the real, since the kid, that's only that I know of, you know what I mean? But we're going to see, We're going to show the people how I transition. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Into that.
Starting point is 00:05:29 How you doing that shit? How you involve in the set? What you doing? That shit is normal, brother. It's like drinking water, you feel me? Everybody throwing up the set over there. You feel me? I grew up in a Muslim household.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You feel me? See? Like, yeah, but the Pistones is known for being Muslims too. So that, you feel me? A lot of my older homies is Muslim, you feel me? But banging. So it all coincide. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:53 I did not know that. Yeah, even in Chicago, you feel me? The Pistones, it's Muslims and all that, you feel me? So it was just like, I see the older homies at the Mosjid when I go pray Friday, like, you feel me? So it's just, it's normal, bro. How is it growing up in a Muslim household? Strict, you feel me? Not really for me, but probably, like, my sisters and shit happen to wear hijabs and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I've seen them go through it at the worst, you know what I mean? Like, but it's strict though. Even going through school and shit. Yeah, you feel me? Even me, like, niggies just trying to clown me for wearing kofis and shit. You feel me? Like most of my first face was niggas talking about me being
Starting point is 00:06:29 Muslim. That's crazy. They used to kill my homie for that shit. Like, look at Africa. Exactly. And be, you know, just saying Indian shit.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Muslim blood. Yeah, all that. Muslim blood. Muslim blood is crazy. No, to real. That's hilarious, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's hilarious. So he just grew up with moms in the household or moms? and pops? Moms and pops, but you feel me? Pops are moving around and shit, you feel me? Niggilators had a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You feel me? But for the most part, moms was holding down, but she was always working, so I was pretty much there by myself, bro. That's why I was just out running around with the humbies and shit, or the humbys will come over and shit we play basketball in the backyard on clothes lines and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Uh-huh. Yeah. You know, most of the neighborhoods like that are, you know, saying even if you're in the projects i feel like most neighborhoods like that and i feel like you niggas is just like super tight-knit and like super family oriented where just don't even feel like like i'm in the game like it's not even like that it's just like this what we're doing you feel me it's kind of like wearing a varsity jacket yeah i got my jacket and that's how we doing it like and you know for some people like not even in this culture nigga they should just know that like it ain't even all ways like that you feel me like we over here really chilly
Starting point is 00:07:55 like you know what I'm sure you feel me it's definitely family oriented you feel me like a lot of a lot of the homies is like fucking related yeah you know what I'm saying but yeah that's yeah that's yeah that's it's bro so you know I'm saying in between there growing up you know what I'm saying in the jungles you went to Dorsey you said you went yeah I went to Dorsey yeah damn that was crazy too I went to Crenshaw yeah how you do that nobody never said nothing it was cool you know what I'm saying it was Madder. Miggas really don't, niggas that if you go to that school,
Starting point is 00:08:28 I mean, it's a myth. Niggas ain't doing that. Let's just get that out the way. I shouldn't have went there. The football games used to go up, though. Football games. I was like, I got to get the fuck up out of here. You too?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, the football game just to go up. I was like, yeah. One day it was a Dorsey-Krenshaw game. I was like, bring a couple of homies with me. We're going to see, you know what I'm saying? It ain't like that at school, but we went to the guys. to the actual game
Starting point is 00:08:55 and I was like nigga we ain't fin to make it past the first quarter nigga like you niggas don't even go to school right niggas they chase in the Dorsey bus I'm like nigga this shit is crazy nah for real man that shit is crazy you feel me but in high school like
Starting point is 00:09:11 when did you start rapping shit I was rapping that Dorsey like I used to have some big ass cyphers and shit everybody crowd around and see a nigga rap and shit like that I always been rapping pops you low key rap you feel me and I used to see him
Starting point is 00:09:23 in the studio so that made me want to rap and shit, you feel me? Oh, so Pops was rapping. Yeah, he had a little studio and shit, you feel me, in the house, and that's what he did, dude, like, I could say that, like, he bought me my first, studio equipment and all that. He seemed I like that shit, you feel me, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:39 so that's why I started rapping, really, because Pops was rapping. But he wasn't really in your life like all the way, but... No, he was there, like, I knew exactly who he was and shit, but like I said, he just, you feel me? He laid his hat a lot of places. Yeah, I already know, because I don't know where the fuck my daddy had.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I mean, then the nigga called me on some bullshit, but whatever, nigga. But, yeah, man, I mean, seeing pops do some shit. I mean, yeah, I'm glad you was motivated by that shit, too. At least that because it got you here, you feel, me, you're doing your thing. Not most definitely. You really going crazy with that shit. Hell yeah. How was it when you first laid down your, you know, when you first, like,
Starting point is 00:10:14 laid down that first verse, like, nigga, this shit crazy. Man, I remember that shit like it was yesterday. I thought that shit was the hardest shit. I took it to a few people You feel like me that I admired I did music at the time and shit And them niggas told me I was garbage Laughing
Starting point is 00:10:30 Hey they laughed me all the way out the studio I ain't gonna lie I left Like I ain't gonna sit here And just let you niggas laughing me and shit Like so I left and shit And like since then I'm like Alright I start studying all type of rappers and shit Like I'm like man I'm gonna spit some shit
Starting point is 00:10:45 Now them nigg's trash you feel me Oh the niggas I was laughing Yeah them niggas bubba Who was they? They ain't even go get no You feel me They ain't get no Sean You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:59 Do mom support What you got going on? Now She didn't like that shit That shit like gang banging To her Rapping and shit And then the type of shit
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'll be rapping about Sometimes you feel me You know She don't understand it too much Like you know what I mean Why you say that? Because it's not what she wanted me to do You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:11:19 So Where does she see her son doing? Going to college. I had like a little scholarship, the Juilliard and shit that I fucked off. You feel me? Trying to be in the streets and shit because I was in band and all that shit for a long time. In the honors band, not just band niggas be saying they in band and shit. I was like one of the best trumpet players in the school district, you feel me? And I was a part of an honors band of all the other best musicians in that school district. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:11:43 You have to try out to be a part of that shit. So I had like scholarships from music colleges and shit that wanted me to come join their music program and shit like that. niggas start getting in trouble and shit like that first truancies ditching then jails all that little shit that's actually hard you know what I'm saying yeah to be musically like that and school like that too I mean because I used to play trumpet too you they used to clown yeah I was about a thing I'm like just drop that motherfucker like I don't even want to do
Starting point is 00:12:10 that shit no more you know what I'm saying but forget scholarships for that shit though that's hard man you should have you should have exactly that shit did for you feel me but the streets caught up to you yeah basically just doing dumb shit, bro. Yeah. Shit that I regret now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's a lot of niggas coming out your section. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. My baby's on guerrilla niggas. I'm not saying. How are you doing? You're booming right now?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Hell yeah. Knicks hard. Yeah, they're hard. My nigga, he's hard too. You've been doing a lot of shit in this music game that a lot of people don't know. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:12:48 You've been doing it. He did a lot of work with a lot of artists, big artists, you feel me? Yeah. And he ran into Dr. Dre. You feel me? Yeah, like, how was that? You feel me? Shit, that shit was surreal. I'm like, you know, I thought
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'd never be around Dre. You know what I mean? So that shit was crazy. And I got to actually play my shit for him and all that, you feel me? Bro said a nigga was dope. Chill with that nigga, get to see how he work and shit. Like, you know what I mean? Soak up some game and shit. That shit was amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:17 How did you get in the studio with this That nigga, it was my birthday, bro. And that nigga, game hit me, like, what you want? Like, I'm like, shit, it's my birthday. I'm trying to figure some shit out. He just sent me an address, like, pull up over here at this time. I pulled up, we had Dre Studio, like, I'm like, what the fuck? Man, you get that text, nigga, that's cold.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Hell yeah. Hell yeah, so, yeah, game introduced me to bro and shit. Then I ended up going back on my own shit because I met Dre's nephew. Shout out to my nigga Keon. He produced and shit. So I ended up going back working with Keon and shit. Like, you know, fucking around. Dre every, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I'm going to give you a beat, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do something little something for you, you all right. Nah, but he threw me to Ali Hoop to work with Keon. You feel me? Keon asked him around about some niggas. You feel me and Dre. From what his nephew told me, Dre told him to hit me up.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You feel me and work with me. So that's how I still was able to continue working at Drey Studio. How long was you there working? Shit, I've been there like Gang of times, bro. Like, at least for like a month straight I was going there. Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:14:29 On and off. Like, you feel me? Every other day type of shit. Look, that's a blessing. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, that's a blessing. How'd you meet gang? Some random shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like, uh, shit, I was already like working with fucking some people at enderscope and shit trying to get a deal. You feel me? Mm-hmm. Then I ended up meeting Stack Quo. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:14:53 And he ended up managing me. Then somehow I ended up recording in a studio that game had. Like, you feel me? I don't know what business him and stat had at the time. But I was recording in-game studio. I see this nigga plaques everywhere and shit. You know what I mean? But I never met the nigga.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Like, you know what I mean? And I always thought that was weird. Then his producer hit me up. And he like, yo, game hit me to come with some beats and shit. You feel me? Like, you're trying to pull up with me. I'm like, hell yeah, nigga, like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:15:21 So we get to the studio, bro, these niggas leave me outside. Like, hold on, I got to go and confirm some shit or some shit, you feel me? So I'm outside of the studio the whole time. A runner walk up, like, yo, you're trying to get in the studio? I'm like, yeah, you feel me? I'm here for game session. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:15:36 He's like, oh, all right, just walk me right in, you feel me? He showed me where game studio had and shit, I walk in. I don't know why. I just go to the end of the room, and I just turn around and just was standing there. And when I turn around, this nigga game in the booth, like, direct. Like it's a big ass glass window and I see game in the booth. I'm like, oh shit. This nigga pull his headphones off like, oh, who's you?
Starting point is 00:15:58 I'm like, I'm always to be chill. Like, like, nigga, what's the deal? Like, I'm here to work. He's like, he like, oh, what you do? I'm like, I rap and shit. He's like, who you signed to? I told him stat or all that. This nigga like, oh, yeah, like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Like, he wanted to hear my shit. He played like 30 seconds of my song. And bro, like, oh, I want you on the album. You feel me? I'm like, he like, and I want you going to tour with me. I'm like, this nigga, cap done the motherfucker. Like, I'm like, this nigga, a cold-ass nigga, you feel me? Like, you just gonna fuck with a nigga dreams like that?
Starting point is 00:16:30 You feel me? But sure enough, that nigga pulled the beat up, all that shit the same day right when I met this, nigga, bro, like, I record my shit on the 1992 album. Then, like, a couple days later, the nigga called me, like, pack your bags. Like, you feel me and meet us over here. I meet him over there, nigga, we had that little tour bus, all the type of shit going on tour and all that. Game of me. One day meeting this nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, I wasn't in that studio for like over five hours, bro. Look, check this out, man. This nigga, this nigga, T.K. hit me. He's like, look, check this out, man. I got him. He wanted to fuck with it. I appreciate him. He wanted an interview, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I'm like, all right, whatever. Send a link. You know, I'm always answering my DMs. Whatever the case. Maybe I'll be talking late night. I don't give a fuck. He sent me, I ain't even going to lie to you. First thing, he sent me.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I think the first thing I listened to bars I think it was the shit with Quincy White or it was something oh yeah yeah boom I pressed it five seconds to that shit I'm like yeah I'm gonna fuck with the nigga that's it you feel me like I'm like this is crazy so you got something special that's cracking nigga that that nigga's like want to fuck with you feel me like it's something special about you I ain't even gonna lie you feel
Starting point is 00:17:48 I appreciate that yeah but How was going on tour with that, nigga? How was that? That shit was crazy because the tour was already amazing. I'm like, I'm on tour. I'm on my first tour bus, all this little shit. You feel me? Like, I got, it's room on this bus, too.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You know how niggas tour bus be packed, niggas be thugging it out. You can't get a seat. Can't get a seat. Nothing. Yeah, you feel me? We had a couple tour buses, though, but it was cool, bro. Like, but shit, I say, nigga, like, I jumped in right into a whole. old beef though like you feel
Starting point is 00:18:21 me he was beef with meek mill and all that shit at the time I didn't know what the fuck was going on so there's a lot of it was like politics through that whole tour and shit and shit we was getting into you feel that was the shit where he was dissing me yeah the nigga had me go on stage with him the day he dissed like I'm right there next to him on TMZ like I ain't even
Starting point is 00:18:40 know you can see me look at bro like fuck who yeah my god damn I'm like fucking that's what we're doing I'm on that motherfucking too yeah fuck that nigga And he's going to tell me Don't talk about the gangband shit Then you're on TMZ It's so amazing
Starting point is 00:18:55 That's the entertainment That's crazy He was going crazy too And didn't, you was going crazy You was going to the nigga You went to Philly? Yeah, I was in that picture too Oh my God
Starting point is 00:19:06 When we was eating the Philly cheese steaks And shit at the little spots So you was ready to beef with meek meal Hell yeah Oh God That's funny as a motherfucker I was ready. Damn, like, that's crazy to be on that tour, nigga, like that.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You feel me? Like, hell yeah. What happened after that? That shit just calmed down, and niggas was like, fucking, I'm out of here. No, that shit was lit, bro. Like, I think that they, the same night that nigga said that, bro. Niggas go to the hotel, all that shit, good. Me and the humby, we hear gang of gunshots and shit.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We like, what the fuck? So we go outside, nigga. I don't know who did it, but, nigga, they didn't shot all the cars up. in you feel me directly after the niggas just announced fuck meek mill you feel me damn yeah in Miami they got the they came and shot the cars up at the found blue hotel damn yeah yeah nigga that's crazy the motherfucker niggas thought they was on some mob shit trying to send a little message or something shit so you was he bringing you out hell yeah nigga I was opening up I was I was bringing him out
Starting point is 00:20:14 basically you feel yeah yeah yeah I was the opening act before him So you was out there Socking shit out too Hell yeah I broke my hand Knocking the nigga out Them niggas is wild Oh me
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's crazy The niggas is wild Don't me like that I mean But you was with whacking I mean Wack or so Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:31 And I was kind of prepared For that I think I was a little More turnt than I was Supposed to be You feel me Because I'm thinking like I'm like this game
Starting point is 00:20:38 You feel me I know this nigga Be getting into some shit So I'm expecting All the type of fail And everything Like you feel But
Starting point is 00:20:44 Like that was calming down A little bit And I was, you feel me, fresh out the juggles, nigga. Like, yeah, like, fuck it. Nuck, don't even look at the homie wrong, nigga. You feel me? So it was Wack giving you, you know what I'm saying, like advice like, you know what little homie?
Starting point is 00:21:02 We're going to do this. We're going to move like this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nah, whack was pumping the turn up. Or whack pumping it up. Yeah, he was pumping it up. He was giving me advice on, like, the music business and shit. Because at the time, I was still, like, conducting a deal with Interscope. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:16 Uh-huh. So he was, you know, giving me little advice and shit, you feel me. Shit like that. But you got, oh, you actually got signed to Interscope. Yeah, I signed an Interscope. Yeah. Like once I left the tour. I left the tour early, two goes on to Interscope.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Did they do that because you was on tour with game and shit? Yeah, they was like, they didn't, well, Wack 100 was trying to sign me too with Birdman. Uh-huh. And, you know, they heard about that shit. So they were like, yeah, we got to get them off that tour. We got to get them off that tour. So they ended my shit short, like, and flew me back. They had, like, some little songs with Kanye and all this shit lined up for me.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You feel me? So I'm like, fucking, I'm about to go back out there and get going, you feel me? So why you didn't end up signing with what? Shit, just, first of all, it was Birdman, you feel me? He's talking about signing the Birdman and shit. And I was like, I'm like, I don't know about that, bitch. And there was a lot of shit going on at the time with the niggas doing all that, cloud chasing, like, yeah, Birdman did this for the day.
Starting point is 00:22:16 deal and all that you feel me so I wasn't trying to be a part of that shit you know what I mean and then it's just like whack didn't have no artists or nothing that shit at the time you feel me like I didn't even know what cash money West was and then interscope was already kind of solidified so I was like it's interscope you feel me like I'm like I'm gonna go with the big label like you feel me I looked up to rapping you feel me was signed the interscope you know what I mean so what did they end up signing you for what you signed for how much did you sign for oh I signed for a lot I signed for a lot, but I didn't touch all of that shit, though. There's too many people in my pocket, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like, but I signed for a lot, though. Probably more than I should have signed for, you feel me? Because you know over there with those big labels, they have the tendency to start shelving niggas. That's exactly, yeah, that's exactly basically what they did, like, you feel me? They shelved you. Yeah, I don't think they had any intentions trying to blow me up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:12 So why the fuck would they sign you? Tax right off. I don't know. So how the fuck you get out the deal? Shit, well, before signing it, I made sure that I was able to, like, just leave and shit, you feel me? Like, after the three-year term was up and I didn't owe no money and all that, I made sure that that was stipulated in the deal, you feel me? Because I just, you know, heard so many stories about niggas getting fucked over and owning money and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:23:35 and I didn't want to owe no money, you feel me? So that's, you know, that's how I was able to get out. How did you actually recoup, though, if they shelved you? Shit, I didn't, I didn't, shit. I didn't have to recoup shit It's a tax write-off They got their money back You feel me that they gave me
Starting point is 00:23:51 You feel me? Oh, okay Yeah They write your shit off And they can get all that money Right back So after that you're like Boom thing I'm going independent
Starting point is 00:23:58 With this shit Yeah you feel me Like I kind of was like Fucking with game And whack on their little label shit But then that shit There did some weird shit
Starting point is 00:24:06 And that's when I decided Like you know what I'm doing independent I ain't fucking with no deals No labels None of that shit I was making more money And shit
Starting point is 00:24:14 just being independent anyway like you know what I mean so after you got after you said fuck Interscope I'm out of here you know what I'm saying you went back to whacking them and then the deals are still kind of I was already I was already fucking with them still even when I was signed the interscope I was still fucking with game and all that pull up on bro all that shit you feel me but they was both there like kind of like helping me navigate through that shit you feel me I say that you know I mean but yeah it once the deal was over like it It was just like, shit. I got to figure some other shit out, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, did you kind of get, like, comfortable and complacent after you got your deal? You're like, you know what? I got a deal. I'm good. They was trying to have me do so much different shit that I'm like, dude, like, this not what you niggins sign me for, for one. You feel me? Like, I don't talk about a lot of shit that you want me to fucking talk about.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You know what I mean? Like, and it was just like an ongoing argument through the whole, you feel me, deal, bro. Like, I'm trying to, you know, me trying to do my shit. And them trying to control my creativity. Like, you know what I mean? And then, like, just throwing me out there, like, and telling me go get popping or some shit. Like, nigger, ain't that with your niggas?
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's supposed to be here. Yeah, like, how the fuck does that go? You feel me? That's why I said, I don't think they had no intentions of blowing the nigger up to begin with, you feel me? Yeah. And then Kendrick was just, like, like, going up at the time, too. I signed in 2016, so Kendrick was their nigger.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You feel? me. If it didn't have nothing to do with Kendrick, they didn't really give a fuck. And you walking in the building and they just like, whatever, nigga, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, I'm still doing studio sessions and all of that little shit, though. I'm recording right next door to Kendrick, schoolboy, scissors, jid, all these. I see these motherfuckers all the time, you feel me? But, yeah, they just. Did the motherfuckers even try to build a relationship, you know what I'm saying, with TD?
Starting point is 00:26:05 Or did you even try to go over there yourself and be like, you know, what's up? No, they were like, keep, no, they were like, like, the N. I'd be like, yo, I want to go meet Cizzo, you feel me? Like, so the A&R take me over there and shit and then when we're trying to chop it up and shit, they're like, oh, okay, come on, come on, you gotta go over here and do this. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like, they was like, just even with game, they tried to keep me from, you know, being around game. I don't know what it was, bro. Like, they was just trying to keep me away from people. Yeah. You know, I don't know what that was about. But you would rather fuck with game and do it up,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and, you know what I'm saying, be close to him and what he's doing? right now. Hell yeah, that nigga's a legend, bro. Yeah. That nigga of a legend, he helped the Westdown for a long-ass time, you feel me? By itself. By itself.
Starting point is 00:26:51 For a long time. You feel me? Like, I ain't never seen nobody do that, so yeah, I'm rocking with him. Yeah, growing up, nigga, what was some of your rap influences? Ironically, 50 cent,
Starting point is 00:27:03 you feel me? Nah, that shit was hard. I ain't gonna lie, that nigga that one's hard. Yeah, you know, that was hard. Yeah. When I heard 50 shit, that's, that nigga really made me like okay yeah i'm gonna do this shit me you feel me like when i heard like minnie man and shit and that bee first came on i'm like dr dr dr dr dr produce this shit i'm like dude bro
Starting point is 00:27:22 what the fuck is this like you feel me that's what i want to do like so yeah 50 i used to listen to a lot of old uh a lot of old rappers bro like fucking uh big l you feel me naws for sure i listen to a lot of niz and then shit game was like the only nigger on the west like really You feel me? The, you know, Ice Cube and shit but I wasn't really
Starting point is 00:27:45 like into Ice Cube and shit at the time. We ain't laughing at you Ice Cube and ain't gonna laugh at you like Nah, Ice Cube a legend too like I know that nigga I know that nigga
Starting point is 00:27:54 Sons and shit you feel me they let me come to their studio and record sometimes too like I fuck with Cube but like I wasn't listening to a Cube though at that time
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was watching Friday after next and shit like that you feel me like I listen to the little songs he put on at the end of the movies and shit like that but yeah that was about it bro
Starting point is 00:28:11 as far as like West Coast rappers so I used to listen to a lot of you know East Coast rappers and shit and I fuck with Outcast heavy too Yeah you do Yeah I'm infy about one
Starting point is 00:28:25 I'm infy on that shit you know what I'm fiend But I fuck with Alcass I fuck with Alcass I fuck with Alcass It's a long argument in my household nigga rather you know what I'm saying Andre 3,000 is top five And you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:28:36 That nigga Andre is a goat We'd be saying we don't know You know what I'm saying? We got to hear an album you know what I'm saying I don't know I want to hear some new shit yeah yeah it be like that sometime it'd be like that sometime I want to hear some new shit too it'd be like that sometime as far as your shit do as far as your career now man what you got going I mean because I know being independent that should be like hard as a bitch like it's
Starting point is 00:28:59 expensive as fuck yeah yeah it'd be recording and all that shit now so what you got going on now shit for a long time I was doing that shit by myself but you know I'm fucking with TK now on the management with the uh progression and shit so we building in that aspect on the business side of shit um like i said earlier i got my album coming out with a python you know produce a lot of shit for td e and uh shit i'm just building bro i'm going i'm going through the motions bro taking this shit one day at a time trying to strategize and figure my way you feel me i know i'm here for a purpose you feel me like i'm just trying to figure that shit out you are i'm telling you because it gave me you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:40 gave me that feeling. Paul was like, clicking, I'm like, okay, that's it. You feel me? Because I'd be feeling like a lot of West Coast artists ain't like versatile at all, like, and they be stuck in their little box and they like, I'm gonna just do this shit for the setting, and it's going to boom, and then I'm hot right here.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And then it's just like, we're in the bubble, nigga. Like you forgot, like, nigga, you gotta cross these states, fool, you gotta go to New York. Then when you get all over to East Coast, niggas don't know who the fuck you is, you feel me? No, that's definitely, that's definitely what I'm doing, too. I've been fucking with a lot of East Coast artists, my nigga
Starting point is 00:30:11 Bodie James from Detroit you know, he let me open up a few shows with him and shit my nigga Chase Fetty, you feel me from Jersey. He fuck with a Grizzled and them heavy and all that, you feel me? So, yeah, I am venturing out, though, like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Fucking with motherfuckers that fuck with me, basically. Yeah, you got, so you got artists with you right now? Yeah, I got my nigga Chukester. He from the jungles too, Baldwin Village, and then I got my little brother, Ace Adil, that's my blood brother. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:30:43 Daisy Lynn, you feel me? She had dope-ass lyrics, man. Like, harder than a lot of niggas. Oh, yeah. So we got to bring them up here right now, man. Josh, let's bring them up here. Let's get their mic set up. You need some old chairs? No, no. No, no. The chairs is coming. Don't worry about that. They're going to set them up.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Oh, I'm saying. T.K. When I had to get his ass up. No, that's all good. You know what I'm saying? They're going to get them. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's good. So what's your label called? Mandatory respect.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Mandatory respect. Yeah, mandatory respect. And that's me and Monica Chase Fetty from Jersey shit. Oh, and your name is an acronym. And what's your name mean? On shit before everybody. Too! Did you feel like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's too long. I'm going to just go with, you know what I'm saying, Ozby. But that is hard, though. Yeah, yeah. That's what I feel like. You feel like? You feel like? You feel like?
Starting point is 00:31:35 You feel like? Like, sound like somebody. You feel me? Yeah, that shit's just. sound hard though for everybody that shit sound hard that's what I would name my label fuck it for real huh yeah I just
Starting point is 00:31:47 named it that fuck it change it up yeah we might have to get a little umbrella company going yeah sign me to the little shit would you rather stay independent though uh it's nothing like that machine behind you when they actually behind you you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:32:05 like yeah I would stay independent but I you know my My deal got to be written up a certain way, you feel me? Yeah. Did you, like, did you ever learn, like, how the lawyers and shit put that shit together and those stipulations got to be in there? Yeah. It's a whole lot of fuckery.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah, like. And wordplay, you feel me? Damn, did you learn that from your first contract, nigga, or what? Well, my first contract wasn't a bad contract because I, like, I was able to kind of, like, form that shit the way I wanted to do it. Like, you feel me? Mm-hmm. Just because of the people that I was fucking with, like, I was.
Starting point is 00:32:39 talking with the head A&R at Interscope and Stack Quo, you feel me, who was already managing Lil Zan and all that at the time, you feel me? So I had niggas around me that was like kind of telling me like, yeah, you need to ask for this, this, this, this, and this, you feel me? So you can be safe in the end if shit don't go right, you know what I mean? Yeah, what is those some of those stipulations that you got to ask for for some of the artists that don't know, you feel? Yeah, niggas got to get that cash app, send it, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:33:09 That ain't no free game right there, you know what I had to learn, you feel me? So maybe I start a little Patreon or something. I don't know. $14 a month, nigga, you niggas get fuck with it, you know what I'm saying? Go see what they're doing, you feel me? I start dropping game, you feel me? You got to drop game on our culture because niggis is getting fucked out here,
Starting point is 00:33:32 it's a show. It's not nothing that you can't go research though, you feel me? Like, niggas just got to study if this is what you want to do. You feel me? Study the ends and out. You ever want to go to that empire route? Yeah, that's, that's, I never really thought about it, but that's a, I like the, you know, distribution deals that they're giving out and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. You know, the control that the artists still have and all of that. But yeah, shit, if the number's right, why not? Why not? I heard he treating people over there good, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, when you was over there with Dr. Dre, did that they give you a death row chain? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, he didn't actually give it to him. me like the nigga that made it king guys like they brought it for him and shit they had a nice little presentation in the box and all that yeah dr jay we bought this death row for you and i and dr dr dr
Starting point is 00:34:22 jay put him to the south like yeah you feel me he i don't know exactly what he told him but i know he told him some shit like yeah i ain't wearing no death row chain that's what i'm not wearing nigga but i don't disrespect you like that shit was just sitting on the table you feel me like like nobody fucking with it so i'm like yeah Like I told Dre in this nigga game, I'm like, get that chain hard. You feel? Oh, me.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So we all leaving and shit. It's still sitting on the table. We all leaving. That nigga game turned around like, Yhry, get your chain. I'm like, my chain? Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I got.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I put that shit right in my backpack. I ain't even trying on. You didn't even put it on. I'm going to look at this shit when I get home. Where that motherfucker at? It's right here, man. Let me see. That's hilarious
Starting point is 00:35:11 You still got that Hell yeah That's right That niggas That niggas ain't trading this bitch in Hell not That's a trophy man I gotta keep this
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah Well Good energy on this Well We gonna say Dr. Drake gave that nigga That shit You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, shit All gotta have It was made for him You feel me Yeah But Ozby got it Now Snoop got it though So it is
Starting point is 00:35:35 He ain't got this one Yeah but I'm saying He got death row So now it is positive energy on it. True, true. It is positive energy. That shit in the metaverse or something though. Like you feel me, you got to bring that shit to the real world. Yeah, we got to come out here
Starting point is 00:35:46 because I don't know what the fuck that is. I can't get no money in the metaverse. That's for my kids and I don't want to live in that shit. Nah, for real. Speak on it, man. How you meet this young brother, man? The gram. I checked her shit out.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Told her shit was dope and she ended up doubling back like, yo, your shit crazy. Like, I'm like, shit, pull up to the studio. Let's work. You feel me? Yeah. How'd you build a relationship with Wackingham? Well, I met Game First, so I've been on game for about 10 years. I used to do security at Staples Center, so I met him there back in the day.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Whoa. I wasn't even doing music back then. Where was you doing security? In the Stable Center or outside? On the court, Staples Center. You was on the court? On the court. And during concerts, I was in the barricade.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I was roamer, so I would be on the floor, event level, in the, in the, in the backstage area. So what, like one day you just, just rap a game or what? No. I mean, I'm pretty sure I showed him.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I actually forgot about that, but when I started doing music, he did hit me up and he's like, yo, you got way better. So I figured I did show him. I don't have recollection of that. But,
Starting point is 00:36:59 yeah, I mean, back then, it was just on some party shit, you know? And it was like, you know, the July 4th,
Starting point is 00:37:08 I was just about to say use that then fourth that you lit, son. Yeah, you was there too. This thing go over here, man. Her birthday DM there, you know what they had to party together. You know what I don't know what they got going on, man. No, man. No, that's funny. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But, yeah. So, I mean, do you still work there security? Oh, no, no, no. I was there four years. I left 2016 because I started doing hair. So I'm also a hairstylist. I'm a curly hair specialist. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:40 So, you know, I have my studio on the side now. That was my main hustle. But, you know, now I'm doing rap and I'm going full throttle. So right now, like, rap is your whole thing. I still do hair. I still do hair. Three days a week. Three days a week?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Book your appointments. But other than that, you're in the studio going hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm working on a lot of projects right now, sitting on a few singles that are on other people's projects. So I'm playing the waiting game right now. now. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Was that a shot at me? I got two joints for Ozby over here. I'm super excited.
Starting point is 00:38:16 We're working on a video right now, actually, so you're in the video. I'm in the video? You're in the video. Say what? Say what's up. Say what's up. Yeah, you know what I mean? You feel me? Put that that motherfucker in there. We can't be regular. You feel me? That's hard. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? And take it from the Staples Center doing some. being game, you know what I'm saying? Didn't meet my boy. Then you're going to go full throttle with the rapping shit, man. How's the raping shit treating you? Amazing. I feel right at home.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You know, I think it was the perfect timing. I'm in alignment, so everything's falling in the place. I'm meeting the right people. This dude is incredible. Like his ear, I have so much respect for it. And, I mean, you've heard it for yourself, you know? Yeah, for sure. When I, I've had a lot of people ask to collab with me, you know, and I'll check.
Starting point is 00:39:08 them out and, you know, sometimes the vibe's just not there. But when I heard him, I was like, no, like, I have to, like, I felt it like this family. Like, I got to, you know, and we clicked immediately, you know, it's a vibe. What made you want to start rapping? Well, I've always loved rap. Ever since I was young, rap was my favorite genre. I'm very versatile with my music, so I listen to all kinds of shit. Like, I love that white boy stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And, you know, all Latin genres. So you was bumping rapping in the house with moms? My dad was bumping it for me. Oh, let us go. Yeah, and, you know, we, that was definitely my favorite. Like, I remember us being in the car, and I would know every biggie Tupac lyric word for word. I think, you know what? The oldest rap song that I can recall is audio.
Starting point is 00:40:05 two top billing like word for word do you even know that hell no i don't even know that one yeah i can skate to it though you know i'm real la but golly yeah so you know i was uh my dad put me on you know at a very young age and it just always spoke to me like i remember performing in front of my mirror all the rap uh lyrics that i knew naz lawrence hill just everyone and uh i know it word for word you know I got to an age where, you know, people were like, hey, like, you like, low-key a human jukebox. Like, why don't you do your own stuff? And I didn't have any confidence in myself at the time.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I was, you know, I was about 21. And I tried it out. It worked. And I kept it a secret for about 10 years. Ten years? Kept it a secret. That sounds like some girl shit, though. You know what I'm just keep like that shit tight.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But you know what? I'm a perfectionist. so it makes sense because I'm not about to show you some shit that's not up to par with what I like, you know? And even back then, I thought I was tight. But when I go back and I look, I'm like, yeah, no, I was trash. And it took me many years to develop the voice that I have now. And my voice is my favorite.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So do you feel like you can keep up with all the female artists out right now? Absolutely. Hell yeah. Yeah, let's go. Yeah. Who is your favorite female artist out? I mean, my favorite of all time was Lauren Hill, Foxy Brown, Eve, you know, like those are the role models in my life. So right now, are you listening to anybody that's current?
Starting point is 00:41:52 I fuck with VAL-9. Do you know who VAL-9 is? I sure don't, but shout out Vail-Nine. She's dope, you know. There's, I mean, Cardi. I love Cardi, you know. but to be honest I do listen to a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:07 like male male rappers oh male rappers I do I just like the the grittiness I don't listen to all male rappers though
Starting point is 00:42:17 but I mean as a female rapper do you think it's kind of harder for you to gain respect from the male rappers not for me I think that I'm in the I think that I've been She rap like a nigga yeah and like
Starting point is 00:42:30 we got to hear I can wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give them my first, give them a burst. Just give them a taste. Because you, these niggas is lacking on your singles. No, absolutely. Give them a taste, man.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I'll tell you to pull up a beat and I'll do something, you know. You speak to Acapella right now. Acapella? Right now. I like a beat, though. Like, no, I want a beat. You want to beat? You're going to say you ain't going to waste it.
Starting point is 00:42:54 No, I want to beat. All right, we've got a way. You got to go check it out. Go streamer and shit, man. Yeah, I mean. can't give them everything because you got something out right now currently that people can go listen to right
Starting point is 00:43:08 yeah yeah right now let them know where they can go get it and listen to it right now I drop something actually November that's what hit hit it off it's called chills you can fight it on all streaming platforms follow me on Instagram that's D-A-Z-Y
Starting point is 00:43:24 underscore L-Y-N and I got a lot of stuff coming out you know like I said me and my boy we got we've been cooking and the beat is fire the beats both of them you know what the one on your project I love you know I play that one all the time
Starting point is 00:43:41 I play that one all the time and sometimes it makes me cry I don't know why what y'all got a song together that gets you emotional like that it makes me emotional I think it's the beat and she'd be crying to all my shay I don't even know why my shit
Starting point is 00:43:58 it was another song He's like, yeah, I feel like crying. It's just I'm very emotional. And like, he has this thing. It's a gift that Nate Dog also had in like Butch Cassidy where they can like be melodic but gangster at the same time. And not too many people have that. So when I heard him doing his shit, I was like, yes, this is so fire.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I'm fucking with him. Yeah. It's almost kind of like Blass got that, but he ain't too gangster. You know what I'm saying? It's just like singing and shit like that. So it kind of remind me it because none of his songs is like whack. You know what I'm saying? They all like it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It's still the same thing. You know how motherfucking be like, oh, you got the same song, nigga for 15. Like he got the same song for 15 songs. And I heard him on other artists shit like with some versatility. Like damn, I never heard what I thought of him on this type of beat. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, it's like that.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, but I'm anxious to hear you. I'm anxious to hear something from her, man. I'm anxious to see what's going on. Yeah. She love you to death, you feel me? No, it's my dog. Yeah, she love you to death. You can tell, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:45:07 She love you to death, man. But, yeah, I'm anxious to hear something. But, yeah, let's get your brother up here, man, and see what it do. I'm a nigga A. It's my real brother, man. Same dad. Oh, same dad.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah, this one of the houses up. My pops later. Oh, he went down the street. He went down the street. Literally down the street, man. Literally down the street, but the yeltschew, too. I was on Hillcress. He was on Coco.
Starting point is 00:45:37 A pop scantless. Come on, pops. We can't be doing that. Nah, that's your boy. Shout out pops, though, man. Shout out pops. How difference are, you know what I'm saying, is the age? Like, how far apart?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Three years apart or the name? Yeah, like two and a half. Two and a half? Two and a half. And y'all on the same shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, musically. But did y'all grow up, like, as kids to? Hell yeah, I used to call him from his house or ask his mom like, yeah, can Asa come over here and record with me, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:46:06 So I always would make the beat, rap, you feel me? Then Assad come through to lay his rap, you feel me? We used on like cassette tapes and shit. I used to put a karaoke machine together, rig it next to make a whole mix tape, bro, on the cassette tape. Who was the hardest when y'all's kids, though? You know, we both going to say we was. We was both trashed. He was gashing?
Starting point is 00:46:27 Who gassed? Who gassed? Back then, I looked at him like he was the hardest, though, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, man. I was more like on some Kanye type shit, though. Like, I really just like making beats and shit at the time, though. I wasn't really too much trying to rap.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah, that's tight, though, man, y'all are siblings and be on the same shit then y'all down the street from each other, you feel me, and be on the same shit musically, you feel me? That's hard as fuck. I mean, I guess it's in pop's jeans then. Exactly. It's in pop's jeans, you know what? So what you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:58 What you got out? What you got going, brother? Shit, man. Projects after projects. I started producing recently and shit. You could buy beat these days. But, I mean, these days, you feel me? Whatever he's on, we on, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Mandatory West, you feel me, mandatory respect. We push in that. So that's what I'm on, you feel me. So you let my boy lead the, you know what I'm saying? Lead the train, man. Finally. Yeah. Finally.
Starting point is 00:47:23 These days, yes, sure. These days. I was stubborn. I tell the truth, I was stubborn. You feel me? But, you know, as a young man, you got to come into your own. You feel me? And then it's easier to see the vision, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:35 I mean, in your younger days, what was you giving him? Why was you giving him so much of a headache? Because he thought he was the hardest. I might still think that, but you feel me? He'd be trying to, I swear to God. So it's always competition. Hell yeah. Healthy, though.
Starting point is 00:47:50 We was in real rap battles together and shit. He won. He stopped going to the battles after that. After he won. so I can never get them back, you feel me? But after that, I won back to back, you feel me? That's how you do it. That's like a nigga in the dice game, man.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I'll pick up my money up going. You're going to give you a chance. Nick, a hell. No, no chance. I'm out of here. No, I'm not real. That's cool, man. This nigga dope, though.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Oh, God, dope. Hell of dope. That's right, you know what I'm saying? I'm anxious to hear you, too. I mean, I ain't going to get no freestyle out of none of you niggas, but you feel? Me. So at that point,
Starting point is 00:48:24 y'all could just link your shit too you feel me make sure people know where they can find you shit black sheep the recent project streaming everywhere you feel me uh you feel me youtube ace adil you feel me lm p you feel me mandatory west yeah so how was it growing up in the jungles with this nigga man I mean it was wild bro you can't really tell too many stories but like nigger phase in the backyard and shit like you feel me
Starting point is 00:48:56 like seeing a lot of shit I mean And sometimes like walking through this shit, like, man, I'm scared the motherfucker be walking to you. I can't be walking with you out here. No cat. Yeah, nah. At a certain point. Hell of times.
Starting point is 00:49:08 This nigga. What are you doing, bro? Nah, I'm the, you know, the voice of calm for this nigga. Oh, God, though. We have to calm this nigga down from a lot of shit. Yeah, bro, he never chose to gang bang, none of that shit. You feel me? Like, bro, I've always been his own man, though.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Like, let me say that, too. Yeah, and you was in the jungles. I liked that. And you, like, ah, shit. straight on. You know what I'm saying? Did you get that love because your brother, you know what I'm saying? He was already doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And then you just told the homies, hey, man, that's my brother, man. I don't fuck with him. No, they knew this nigga too. Yeah, they knew me too. He knew me too. By the time I got to Dorsey and shit, he was doing this thing rapping, going to Atlanta, you feel me, Arizona and shit trying to get his shit, you know, popping. So I was, you know, ended up in the jungles by myself at one point.
Starting point is 00:49:51 But you feel me? So, yeah, a lot of shit fell on my own shoulders. But everybody fucked with me. You know, I never really had no problems over there. still being associated you know what I'm saying affiliated by association in Los Angeles did you still have problems going outside the jungles not really a little bit some places but not really you know I keep it I keep it neutral you feel me niggas know that it's all love on my side I'm just trying more to bring us together than the tear us apart you feel me hell yeah I mean that's what I'm preaching
Starting point is 00:50:20 right now that's what I'm on you know what I'm on the niggas did a whole bunch of shit you feel we didn't do too much shit we got to be you know what I'm saying we got to kind of I'm gonna balance that shit out. We can't be up here because you was saying, Hey man, the game bang shit, hold on. But it's like a part of our story, you feel me? But you gonna tell the nigga how we evolved in this story, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:39 So the people that don't know us can see this shit. And I know, like, bro, like, it's a way out. You can get out of this shit. No way. Your mindset, you feel me? You gotta free your mind first before you can free yourself, you feel me? Nah, for real.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, and freeing your mind is hard as fuck. You know what I'm saying? You gotta have a support system there with you, bro. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, yeah. We got a big family and shit, though. Like, you feel me? So, I mean, I probably, you know, leaned on my family a little more, you feel me, than he did.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You feel me? But, yeah, like, there's more than one path out here, especially, you know, where we grow up. You just got to be smart about it. Did you have some of those depressed days where you feel like, you know what, man, I'm going to give up, man. Fuck the shit. All the time. Hell yeah. I feel like if you're not tested that way, you probably, you know, not trying.
Starting point is 00:51:27 hard. Yeah. Like did it bother you a lot when you had those days or you know what I'm saying? Did you lean on moms or brother your brother or do you just, you know? Not when it got bad I started leaning on music and stuff. So that, you know, I start writing a lot and that's really, you know, why I rap today and stuff. You know, we still deal with things, you know, growing up at this age. So, you know, that's still the therapeutic, you know, outlet for me, you feel me? So. Writing, writing, writing music. Yeah, writing music. Yeah. Have you ever wrote?
Starting point is 00:51:57 any music for any artists? Nah, not really. I mean, I may have wrote a hook or two the here and there, but not really. Oh, you wrote for my nigga? I'll be trying to hear. I already knew. You was probably saying, yeah, I wrote for this thing
Starting point is 00:52:14 right here, man. I already saw what I was going. Yeah. Yeah, man, tell everybody where they can find your shit, man. Link your shit one more time. Twitter, A-side-L, you know, everywhere else. You feel me? I'm one-click of what.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yes, sir, man. You got anybody else you want to bring up? Yeah, my nigga Chuckster. Chuckster, let's do it. Chucks are thugging. Yeah. It's the whole, oh, my, nigger. Sit your ass there.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Look at this thing. Oh, me, gang. Where the headphones are. This is my hairphone. My boy, what's some headphones on. Really? Are you, my bad, my bad. Oh, my boy, you are hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:04 My boy said, I need the headphones, Nick. I'm in this bitch. Game, yeah, yeah, here. Chuck's the, you know what I'm saying? Show the niggins your chain again, bro. Yeah, I'm sure, man. But he got the red trucks on this shit. When the motherfucking shine, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yes, sir. Yeah. You for the jungles too? Yeah, hell yeah, man. All right, all right, let me get this nigga called. I mean, just remind me your mom. He's just turned up, you know what I'm saying? But it's all love.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You know what I'm saying? Niggas. The niggas is passionate about this shit, you feel me? Yeah, man. So, yeah, you rapping too. Yeah, hell yeah, I rap, sing. I do a lot, man. Like, I'm versatile with this shit, but yeah, I rap.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Oh, you sing, too. I do a lot, man. I'm like, that's cold. I try to like, like, my boy be. I try to stay outside the box. I don't like be in a, like, category with niggas. Yeah. I'm feeling me too exclusive.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Like, it just plays me with certain niggas because I could do everything. Like, can't leave me out of nothing. Yeah, where you feel like you fit in this shit? Like, what type of style you got? Like, really, like, I could feel every genre of music. Like, I just like music. If it's music and it catch my ear, I could rock with it. Like, feel me?
Starting point is 00:54:25 I've been in the studio with white boys, all type of, like, and we in there viving out on some whole other shit. Like, homies are being there, like, what the fuck is this thing? Yeah. I'm in there doing music, like, doing me. But that gang banging music, all that shit, that shit comes easy. Like, I like challenging myself, you feel me, because I'm trying to take this shit somewhere, like, far, man. So where'd you meet my boy? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:54:49 We found the same section, man. It's regular. Yeah, man, it's regular. This is bro right here, you feel me? like he he's seen us like coming up rapping it too me and my bro infant long live yeah long live infant let me get my brother on there i got him everywhere i go yeah in my chain with the ashes you feel me everywhere i go oh you got the ashes on you too that's cold so my bro he he's seen us trying to get it in the jungle trying to make something happen you feel
Starting point is 00:55:17 me so we've been doing this like i said the gang being shit for a long time in the rapping so my bro passed away i just got out of jail so So straight from out of jail, I'm just trying to get a different outlook on this shit. Because it's like, like you said, a nigga be stuck in a box and just be only popping right there. Like, it's a whole world out here. And I'm fuck with my boy, Bodie James. I'd be in Detroit. I'd just be everywhere.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So I see it. So it's like I'm trying to get to it. I'm trying to get there. With your bro passing away, did that motivate you even more to start doing your thing? Yeah, that made me even like, because bro got out. If it was a nigga, he's trying to. gang a light on the set you feel me yeah with the like music shit
Starting point is 00:55:59 me bro's doing nothing first nigga to be doing numbers what did he do for y'all you know what did he do for y'all you know what did he do you're saying to help you in your your rap career oh shit that's my bro he he was teaching me this shit to this day like right now I'm still figuring shit out right now like uh thankful that God put people in my position like in my path that just be trying to help me like my boy fago and it's a lot of people that I just met that still be trying to help me like but My bro, he was really teaching me, like, to this day.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So he really been helping me every since. Like, so now that he's gone, I'll just be trying to push, but it's still like, just watch it. I'll be watching our old videos, his energy. I could still feel it, so it just be like, man, hold on, feel me, just turn me up every time. Like, how did bro pass away? Man, he passed away in Atlanta, man,
Starting point is 00:56:48 some little, feel me, other shit going on. You know, out there. Yeah. He was, he from Atlanta, you feel me? He came to Atlanta. LA, feel me, we, you feel me, end up staying out here. He moved with me and my family. My mom took him in, and we've been rocking every since.
Starting point is 00:57:04 That's my brother. The Lord couldn't make us no closer, but that's my brother, you feel me? So it's like he went back out there trying to figure it out. He was doing this shit out there and some fuck shit, but you know that shit go, man. So you're like, you know what, man, I'm going to take this shit to New Heights, you know what I'm saying? Just for him, you feel me? Like, what have you been doing, you feel? I got a lot of shit out right now.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You can look my shit up on YouTube. I got a lot of versatile shit. I'll just drop the video called C-N-N-N-N-Thing. There's some little versatile shit, some different shit. But really all my music on YouTube right now is just all versatile music, all different. Fire-your-ass videos, too. Legit video. So it's like, but right now I've got three projects on the way.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I got one I'm going to drop called Stone Tails. I'm going to drop that with my boy Sabi. I'm waiting on that to get done. I got some other shit with my boy Cyper. Shout out my boy Cypers, called Demon Time emojis. I'm gonna drop that. And then I got some other shit
Starting point is 00:58:00 called Real Is Rare for my brother. It's gonna be a tape for my brother. Like, that's some shit I'm putting together on my own in my head. Man, I love this shit. I love it, bro. You know what I'm saying? From getting signed to Interscope,
Starting point is 00:58:14 niggas shelving you, nigga going, you know what I'm saying? Independent. Then signing. You know what I'm saying? Your brother. You've said, you got your homie. She rapping with you.
Starting point is 00:58:23 you know what I'm saying you all stand together like a family then you bring them up here with you know what I'm saying and share some light that's what that's what niggins is supposed to be doing you know what I'm saying I appreciate you for that blow
Starting point is 00:58:35 you already know you already know man yes sir yes sir and I appreciate you for having me bro you feel you God I'm gonna have my thugs I'm just saying my thugs is coming up here you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:58:49 we say the best for last don't worry about nothing you feel me get a freestyle out of me He ain't go, I mean, do your thing. Are you on the spit something? I mean, it's on you. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Let me see. All right. Why, y ain't catching phasing all that. While my bitch was getting fucked, I was trying to call back. From the land of the dangers dressed up in all black, no chest shots. I dissect when I ain't for the ball cap. STL ball cap need to make his ass fall back. Niggas just now getting active.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I'm dead all that. Body marked up like a wall on nickle left. Free my nigg in little ass. Bitch, I'm bin' little ass. Bitch, I'm bin'n'n'n' balling. I ain't talking about sporting. To the blammer on my. my hip by the way that I'm walking which I wish a nigger would he looked good in a coffee
Starting point is 00:59:27 five fish like a like a nickel mama should have named me bawling no head up you scrubble me you squabble blood niggas turn it down phase it ain't shit to squabble a little bitch i got it out the mud still feel like don't got enough from the gutter where it's lily prop the chunk to set up it was me mad foe he came my niggas whi'nig can't forget about thirms if an m rj problem you don't want no problem and i put that on my mama from the bottom skinny nigger took protection like a condom criss art till a brin my nigger that's our shit seen the same niggas foe that was talking that hard shit baby stones hit the Bitter them niggas like all shit, that it all we play ball,
Starting point is 00:59:55 bitch don't get my gun started. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, so before we get out of here, you know what I'm saying, make sure you know, you let everybody know what's up with you where you can go find all your shit, you know what I'm saying, links, all the shit, Oz be chill. Oz be chill, everything, OSBE, chill, true to self,
Starting point is 01:00:18 the album for the come, you feel me, produced by my nigga Python P, you feel me, Yeah, Osby, chill, everything, bro. OSBE, chill. Yeah, I'm saying? And make sure y'all go check that out. Make sure y'all go check, you know what I'm saying? Go tune into everything he's doing.
Starting point is 01:00:33 You know what I'm saying? I respect everything he's doing. He's actually hard, you feel me? I need to shed some light on all my niggas, you feel me? And he's one of him, you feel me? So, thank you for tuning in. We are out of here. Gang shit.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Sir.

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