No Jumper - OTF Doodie Lo Speaks After Being Cleared on Abuse Allegations

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

Doodie Lo talks about the painful battle he went through to clear his name. It was confirmed that his accuser lied and coached her kid to say false claims about Doodie. The public opinion ran with the... story while Doodie's name was dragged all over the headlines. He is now suing the lady who lied about him. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today we got my man, Duty Low, in the building. How you feeling? Chill, man. It's nice to finally meet you, man. For sure, we posted a day of the interview when I was out in. And Cali last time, we was on tour, performing at the Staples Center. Yeah, what happened? You bailed on me last time.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I don't know. I probably was, I don't know, tweaking. You're kind of all over the place? Yeah, I was chilling. I don't know. Moving around. Yeah, all that shit. We moved through L.A.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I feel you. So you're originally Chicago. native though? I'm from Canca Key. It's like 45 minutes, 30 minutes way for Chicago. Okay. And so what was it like growing up out there, though? It was the same way I was growing up in Chicago, anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's just as lit? Yeah, yeah, it's lit. Okay. Hell yeah. Like, you gotta think Alwell got a trench that's lit, like in Alway got a fucking hood. Right. L.A. got a hood. It's lit. When we think about Chicago, we think of it being
Starting point is 00:00:58 crazy as fucking the city, but we don't really necessarily assume that there's wild shit going on outside it throughout the rest of the state. I don't know if I was it. But okay, what was your childhood like yourself? You were wrapped up in crazy shit from early on? I never, I always, you know, I was a smart, you know, I always knew music was going to be, you know, but I always get money. I always get money, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Okay. Play football and shit, though. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, a lot of different shit. So if we had met you in high school, football was your life, or what? Hell not. It was my life. It was my life.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I got shot and I dropped out of school. I'm like, I got my daughter's shit and get some money. You got shot at what age? Yeah, I think I was like 17. How'd you get a shot? Yeah. I was in the club and shit. You got shot in the club?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, it was a slick shot. What was it? It was a little leg shot. Oh, a leg shot? Yeah, my shit. Okay. But that was the end of your high school football dreams? Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Really? Yeah. And were you really talented? You really felt you got a future at that time? Yeah, well, you know, you were in Hypernetxia, I really can play football, though. When you were in hyper-dexed, whatever you put your mind until, you could definitely do it. Right. And so were you wrapped up in the streets already at that time that you got shot?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, I was already in the streets, really. Okay. But I was still doing shit. Like, I was out going, playing football, you know, doing what, hustling, whatever. A little bit of both. Yeah. Okay. And you said that music was, like, a huge focus for you early on?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, yeah. I knew what was going to happen. What were the artists that had you really excited as a young man? Oh, some honey shit. Growing up, yeah, this is going to sound crazy. Like, of course, like, little Wayne, though, like, LaWain, no high boys and Bow Wow, that's it crazy. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, for sure. I hear that from a lot of people, and they gave me a hard time on the podcast the other day because I didn't really know about Bow Wow's history. Yeah, he got a history. Like, he's a sort of your legend. You know what I'm saying? Watch seeing him doing it as a kid, and you musically want to, you musically already, it's in you, and you seeing him
Starting point is 00:03:26 doing it as young as he was. That was a big motivation too. Do you remember when you got introduced to like Chicago street music, drill music and shit like that? That shit right up the street. I know, but when did you really start to like perceive it? Shit, it was, it's still the same shit. It's the midway.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So it was always, you know what I'm saying? That's like, it's the same culture. Right. We always hear from people in Chicago that like when Sosa came out that that just changed everything that everybody started you know the the tone and the music really kind of shifted at that point was that your perspective as well yeah for so so so dirt you know there's a lot of pioneers that are doing shit for sure right so did your taste of music kind of gear itself towards that or you you start making more aggressive street music like that at that time that was like that that was
Starting point is 00:04:20 the way that shit that was really like you know what I'm saying that was like really that that shit was like really what was going on like motherfucker of seeing or you know what I'm saying just and visualize what a motherfucker going through and how they're expressing their self or you know what I'm saying so drill was like real shit you feel me yeah definitely and did you already know about the shit that was going on in Chicago like just through you being in the streets or was it
Starting point is 00:04:49 were you learning about it from the music And I already, like, I'm, I do that. I got people out there, like, family. You know what I'm saying? So it was normal for you to be out there. That's like Burbank to L.A. or some shit. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So you were already, like, going out there and shit. Yeah, for sure. Okay. When did you start, like, so what did you do after high school or after you got shot? Your football dreams kind of go away? Had a baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Got to the money. got to the money got to the money you had to yeah yeah for sure you got to that changed you a lot hell yeah
Starting point is 00:05:32 a lot of shit of my life changed me a lot like going through shit so did you start did you start pursuing music at what age or like did you even know anybody
Starting point is 00:05:46 who was like actually having success in the music business yeah my fucking brother dirt you ain't a goat okay but when When did you tap in with him for the first time? Me and bro been locked in.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You're right. A little closer to the mic. Me and brother locked in, so it's like 2013. So how old were you in 2013? I don't know, I'm 30 now. Oh, so that was like nine years ago? Yeah, for sure. So you're still a young dude when you tapped in with Derek?
Starting point is 00:06:11 How'd you meet him? Mutual friends. Shout up my boys. Okay. Yeah. Look, a little bit. You meet Dirk, and that's kind of like right around the time that he really started blowing up. started blowing up like 2013 yeah for so and so what was your perspective on where his career was
Starting point is 00:06:26 at at that time sure it's a even the big at high what i thought you know what i'm saying big high compared to he is now yeah i thought it was that big but i see the levels he even bigger you see what i'm saying right because he's like by far the the biggest artist who came from that whole scene realistically at this point but at that time it probably seemed gigantic to you too yeah yeah Everything. It was all the process. Everything was like big. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Everybody talking about it. Right. It was big. And now it's just even bigger. It's just levels. When you look back, okay, so at that time period, though, you meet him and do you start going on tour with him? Or does he just right away recognize that you're trying to rap and start supporting it? No, it wasn't no trying to rap type of shit.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Okay. It wasn't no shit like, no, I'm trying to rap. It was like some week. locked in. Oh really? So he believed in you as a musician? Like he fucked with your music? It was beyond, like beyond the music.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It wasn't never about no music. It was, we linked up and said, that's the, we locked in. We created a bond. Right. Yeah. That's what's up. So you changed your name to OTF Dutilo at that point?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Or was your name Already Duty Love? My name was Already Duty Love. Where did that come from? What does that mean? My auntie name, that. Why? I don't know. She died. Oh, okay. Now you can't ask it? You never figured it up before? I never do. Like, it was duty. Okay. And then the low came with other shit. It was duty low.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You were staying low? Like what? You were sneaky? Nah, hell no, I got nothing to do any of those sneaky shit, but, you know, some street said, duty low. Okay. And so then you threw the OTF on your name, though? That was like officially your name? A lot of people do that. Like, I'm OTO. Right. That shit, tab it on me, this shit, you feel?
Starting point is 00:08:28 But now all the kids do that where they put their crew in front of their name and shit? Yeah. So that was kind of early for that. Yeah, they was trying to probably get followers or some shit. So. But I mean, it is nice for you that nobody can look at your name without realizing who you're associated with, right? For so. Mm.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So, okay, what are you doing all throughout the 2000s and shit, or 2013 on? Were you torn with Derrick or were you spending time with? them like what was your life like we was touring studio just watching the work and shit just hanging out you know doing what we do regular shit when did you start to feel like you really had attention on you music wise I feel like I found out about you with that lawn song yeah with me and duty love but when I knew we we got a song me him like play your role with me Ikeke Buka play a role
Starting point is 00:09:22 that got a couple million views on YouTube and shit and then that breakthrough though was me and Duty Loaf that's when I started taking music series so you weren't really taking that series
Starting point is 00:09:35 before that wasn't taking the series hell no really it was one for that one for then was that song did you know that song was gonna be a big song because when I listen to it now
Starting point is 00:09:44 it sounds like it sounds like that's your first song or like your first single introduction to the game type song Yeah, me and Vaughn, we was in the studio, he called me. Turn up. I just moved to the A. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:09:57 He turned up. We get to the studio. He, you know, we came up with that shit. He, like, the whole world gonna be sitting there's watching. Really? Hell, yeah. How'd you meet Vaughn? At what point did you meet him and how'd that relationship come together?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, when bro got out, he got out of jail. Okay, so you didn't know him before all that? No, I, you know, knew about Vaughn, but talked to him on the phone, but when Vaughn got out of jail, that's when me and Vaughn got real close. Okay. Do you remember, like, the first time that Dirk started telling you about Vaughn and how he's going to really be pushing him as an artist? Like, all that shit just came, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Everything just, we ain't talk about, like, this shit just. Vaughn't playing on rapping with me got. You know what I'm saying? that he's a star rapper. Yeah, because once you really start to learn more about Vaughn, it is pretty unbelievable that he went through everything that he went through, and then
Starting point is 00:10:59 actually managed to really blow up as big as he did in only a couple of short years. He's destined for this shit. That was in him. Yeah. It was going to happen anyway. Right. I ain't ever met no nigga like Vaughn, bro. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:16 For sure. In what way? just like to a Tupac way. Mm. Just had that in our era like. That charisma. He was that. He still is.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Right. Definitely. Where were you when you shot that video? We was an A. Shout out to Matt Markner. We was in A on Hollywood Road. Okay, yeah, because it looked like a real project. So I was wondering where exactly that was that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We was an A with it. Interesting. So, uh, what, what happened like like what from your perspective do you remember how you found out that vaughn passed where you were all i don't want to talk about that all right yeah fair enough um okay so in terms of your relationship with dirk how has that changed over the years like if you like how closely do you guys work on putting music out of us how much that changed once you put that song on with vaughan and really started have eyeballs on you sure he's thirsty he's like you know
Starting point is 00:12:20 you taking the series i see you taking it i ain't had no choice but I was gonna be a one hit wonder or something the air by that if I got a million views in like 24 hours right yeah so you just start going a lot harder after that yeah yeah for sure and I drop big duty low hmm and shit really just you felt like the people really started to just gain momentum behind you at that point yeah they know authenticity when they see it they know realness when they see it so people don't gravitate to that shit but now how the internet made up now they it's like they gravitate to the fake shit
Starting point is 00:12:55 too and the weird shit but like real people gravitate to real people you feel like that's true because I feel like when you look at Chicago or a lot of cities I mean it seems like the rap is blowing up out of any given city are usually people that are pretty certified yeah for sure especially
Starting point is 00:13:11 Chicago yeah you love Chicago you steady talk about Chicago I mean you know I'm saying it's like you couldn't imagine somebody really blown up out of Chicago who was just a total bitch but was talking about street shit, right? Yeah, yeah, you know who about bitch?
Starting point is 00:13:26 You know what I'm saying? Do we? I don't know. Maybe you could tell me. I ain't. You crazy, out. What you're old, man? That show.
Starting point is 00:13:36 All right. So that was a couple years ago when that Vaughn song came out and everything. You just been grinding since then, just working on the music and everything. Hell yeah. Studio all day.
Starting point is 00:13:47 That's the lifestyle. The OTS crew? Studio all day. with the game when I want when I bought myself studio I could be with at home I'm recording the house studio in the house right is this uh is this like done out of Atlanta or where are you staying at wherever I'm at my man if I'm in Cali right now I'm going to record right but you stay in Atlanta for the most part so okay you like it better out there than yeah I love Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Illinois is just too crazy or what? No, it's just like Atlanta mode, you know, for the music, chilling. You know, you can raise your family out there, chill. You ain't supposed to get, like, I'll still go back to Can Key, but you don't, like, the object is to get the fuck away from there. Who want to be, you got to, you know? Right. Elevate.
Starting point is 00:14:44 You stay out of trouble when you're in Atlanta, though? Yeah, I'll be chilling. I'll be in the studio. Right. Definitely. Okay, so a lot of people became familiar with you over the course of the last month or two because you had a false now proven to be false accusation put on you. So?
Starting point is 00:15:03 When did you first hear about this accusation being put out there? I was on tour, back outside tour. Okay. Which one was that? The Dirk and a little baby one? Yeah, for sure. How was that? That bitch was a movie.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Every night. It was a movie. That must have been out of control. I mean, Dirk Tor has got to be crazy enough, but then you put them on tour with a little baby. It was a fucking movie. Wow. Okay. And then how do you find out about this stuff being said about you?
Starting point is 00:15:32 I knew about that shit before it hit the internet. Right. So it was like, damn. And then, like, my thing with that shit was, like, I'm going to just touch real quick on this is, like, it was a public opinion and I won't make this clear I never had no case of me doing that it was a woman saying I did something that I didn't do right you feel me I got four daughters I stand for something so to see that it can be influenced by you just quickly
Starting point is 00:16:11 guilty to the public and like I never like been questioned anything about that shit like that was uh accusation of of a woman that's going so you had dated her for what a year a couple years i was messing around with it for like since may or some shit okay and so then basically what you stopped talking to her and then all of a sudden she starts thinking up ways to try to get back at you i don't know how she thought of that shit i don't know what fuck in your mind where you can come up for some shit like that so I couldn't tell you that right and it's fucked up for you because it's like that accusation she makes that accusation what could you possibly do to prove that you didn't do it once she puts the idea out there
Starting point is 00:16:58 because it's not like she's offering any proof that you did do it well let me see let me tell you this if you got common sense and you're a human being and you say you take three welded screws and wrap it around something right and put it And that person is not in jail and there's no type of trauma or, you see what I'm saying? So what people do is they take this shit and then they put it up for views. And you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like, they don't use their common sense. Because say, all right, I say, a motherfucker said something about the same shit they said, she said about me to you. Right. And then you, what you look like? Do y'all got common sense? Right.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Would you think that? But what could I do? Like, what could I do in that moment to prove that I'm innocent, you know? What's you mean? You know you ain't do it? I know I ain't do it, but how, like, when you have people retweeting some shit 10,000 times about you, what are you going to do? You can't control the internet. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:00 The truth's going to come to the light. Yeah, but in the meantime, you're having your name smeared. Yeah. But, like, what way ain't say? Drag my name through the mud is going to come out clean. You know what it do? Well, luckily, it resolved itself pretty quickly. but we didn't know if this was going to be something that was playing out
Starting point is 00:18:16 and taking years and years for your name to be ultimately cleared, right? Really? I thought it was going to come out sooner. I'm like, what the fuck is it? Like, we weren't going to court for no fucking, we weren't going to court for no case. Right. It was like injunctions, like get the fuck on.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Like, stop playing with me. There's some weird shit. Like, this one, though, going to court, I'm charged. I've never been charged or arrested of that shit. That's why I want to make clear that shit. You never even had the cops contact you about this. I never got contact about the cops.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I got my attorneys. Shout out Ariel Mitchell and Keon Hardiman. I got my attorneys on it. And you feel me? Right. So you were pretty, you went and got lawyers pretty much as soon as this came out because you wanted to take it as serious as possible.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. I'm going to get lawyers because first I'm not going to, what I'm trying to argue with you for and you're saying I did something that I didn't do. So you got to protect yourself at all coast. Right. Because when it first came out, it's like, I just remember seeing people talking about it on Twitter. And you just saw, like mostly girls, just really piling on. Because let me stop because there's real victims out there.
Starting point is 00:19:40 There's real victims out there. You're playing with real victims that really been molested and shit like that. You feel me? So it's like you playing with these people and they really want to know the truth. Because it sounds far-fetched, but then you got a baby crying and you got shit co-hurst. Then you got everything all mixed up. So you got the internet shook. It's public opinion now.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's not even in court. There's a public opinion. Right. And in the court of public opinion, you could have one seemingly convincing piece of evidence, like the audio recording of the kid talking about it. And they're not going to wait to find anything else out. They're just running with it. I could get my daughter to say anything I want her to say. You hear me? The kids. What? She loves her daddy. Hey, baby, cuss. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Right. Like, you got kids. You can get your, I'm pretty sure you can have your kids do whatever you want them to do. do my kids won so she shouldn't doing too much I'm talking about not no shit like that but I'm saying no your baby one she can't talk about I'm just saying you know people that I got kids you can have kids say bitch and they're gonna you know what I'm saying yeah they love swearing hell yeah but uh but that shit was too far-fetched like I I thought people had common sense so but I into I got four daughters right you see what I'm saying and I don't play about my daughter so like that type of shit like
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like, my kids old enough to see that type of shit on the internet. Yeah. And that, that fuck them up too. You see what I'm saying? Really? Yeah, for sure. What were those conversations like for you? I really, I ain't know what to tell them.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm just, they know. Right. They're like, Daddy, why is she playing with you like this? You know what I'm saying? Like, they know, but they, they was my number one supporters to them. Mm. My kids were my number. Daddy, you okay, he texting me.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I want to ask him for nobody or nothing. You asked. I got back in the studio and put a spark in me. I got back right in the studio. I noticed that. It definitely seemed to spark something in your music. Big duty load deluxe. Did you ask Derek for advice on this?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Because he's obviously had his... Do you ask Dirk for advice on this? Because obviously he's had his name smeared plenty of times that try to say all kinds of crazy shit in the media about him. Did you ask him for what he would do? Just tell me to delete my Instagram. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Don't read no comments. You know what the fuck? You know what the fuck? You know, you ain't dead shit. What the fuck, nigga? Delete it. If you look at the internet, you're going to delete that shit. Fuck that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Work. Stay in the studio. Wow. So I wanted you delete it for her. I don't know. I still was reading comments. I ain't got to. But I stayed in the studio to get.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And the crazy thing I had. And that hardest time I stopped. doing I stop sipping in all type of shit. Oh really? For so. You think you were depressed? Hell yeah, that shit fuck me up. You got to think about somebody really putting something, something like that on your name.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah. That's one of the worst things besides a snitch you could call somebody. Yeah, because normally if you have a person attacking you online, it's like you can really kind of pay attention to it because there's one person or a handful of people. When that happened, it's like you just got way too many people talking about you that you can't even focus in on one person, right? Yeah. I don't even like,
Starting point is 00:23:15 bro, that shit just show me just who with me and who ain't and like nobody around me believe the shit. They're like I, like, you see weird people like shit. Like, you see what I'm saying? Then you're like,
Starting point is 00:23:31 but now I know, like it's like fuck out. Fuck out. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like nobody specific, but like like just people even questioning that shit that I think they kind of throw it off too but I understand because it's victims but common sense of three nails and shit and come on man that shit yeah see that was our first story that was a weird part about it is that the story was
Starting point is 00:23:59 so specific and it was such a weird fucking concept that that almost made it seem more believable to people because who the fuck would ever make something like that up You know? Psychos, that shit should be a fucking movie or something. I do want to say, because when you contacted me, you basically acknowledged
Starting point is 00:24:21 that we had made a video talking about the situation. But when I went back and watched that video, we never bought into it. We always were coming at it with a lot of skepticism. But look, look, this one. All right?
Starting point is 00:24:34 This is how I say. You a smart man, right? Allegedly. Allegedly. All right, you got common sense. Allegedly, but okay. I feel like if you got common sense, you should know, like, you said, like how you said, what you say you felt about the story?
Starting point is 00:24:54 I had a lot of skepticism. It didn't really add up to me. I was shocked. Didn't really feel like there was enough evidence for us to say, okay, this is true or not true. So it's like, why I posted? Well, it was news, you know? everybody was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah, but that's like, that's like some, like, even if that happened to her son, she's weird for putting that on the internet. You see what I'm saying? People playing with it like it was a joke, and it wasn't no jokes. So I look at it like while I post it if you got common sense. You know what I'm saying? It was just like weird to me, but I understand how the media work. Yeah, because we were reporting on it to be skeptical of it, at least.
Starting point is 00:25:39 in that time. But it was a weird position to be skeptical of it because at the same time, if somebody really was guilty of this, you would want to call attention to it. It would be like your responsibility as the media to draw attention to it because everybody should know if there was a person who is. The media ain't,
Starting point is 00:25:55 when the facts came out, they ain't too much. Yeah, which I think is so fucked up. Anyone who wrote an article about it, anybody who tweeted about it, once the alternate information comes out, you should put justice much light on it. Yeah, for so.
Starting point is 00:26:11 People don't like correcting their mistakes. Yeah. Did you post the paperwork? Yeah, you sent me everything. Oh, yeah, for sure. But, like, just for an example, and we're doing this interview now, but we did the No Jumper News segment about it. We didn't
Starting point is 00:26:27 do another No Jumper news segment. We didn't do another no jumper news segment. We didn't do a whole separate segment when it came out that it wasn't true. We just talked about it on the podcast and that we're having you on, which is you know, it's pretty good, but, you know, It's like people are just going to pay attention more to the initial claim than the attraction. Yeah, for so.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But you were saying you wanted to take a lie detector test from the beginning. Yeah. But then I'm like, for what? Right. Then I start getting like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I want to clear my name so fast. I do anything to show my innocence. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like, there ain't no fucking shit to be putting nobody through. That's not true, bro. That's shit weird. But she actually beat you to the lie detector test because she did it first, right? I don't know if she beat me to it or not, but she did a lot of technical tests and that shit is weird. Do you believe your shit you put on Instagram? Right. The fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Did he do this or not? It's not like she could really answer that because she doesn't know whether you dare or not. She could only listen to the kid, right? Well, that's bullshit, bro. see the, but ain't no allegedly. Like, for real, you got, like, you got the paperwork. You seen the paperwork. What is he, his mom, his mom told him to say that.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So ain't no allegedly, like, ain't no allegedly. So you think that it's more likely that she coached the kid to say all that shit? What you mean? It's like that. You ain't seen the documents? Well, then, I seen the Instagram live of her coming out saying that basically she was just believing the kid. That was before all that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm talking about the facts. and now. That was before all that, like, that, like, public opinion, that shit don't matter, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:17 This real life shit. Like, this ain't no, this ain't no, um, no play game. Like, all right,
Starting point is 00:28:26 when she first did and, all right, we got the facts now. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, she did coach him.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You got it from the public, like, this stuff from the state's attorney. Really? Yeah. Yeah, you can see to, right? No, I didn't see that part. You just said I sent to everything.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, but apparently I didn't read that sentence. Oh, I don't know. So they're saying that she actually is proven that she fucking coached the kid? I want to pull that shit up. Let's do it. So you can see it. Oh, this is waiting on it. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Read this highlighter, the highlighter part. All right. There is no legal way to prove what happened in this case. the only evidence of anything happening is the testimony of the now six-year-old victim who cannot describe this incident with any detail or consistency, who initially denied that anything criminal incurred and who has stated that his mom told him what to say. This same child has also stated that his mom frequently leaves him alone
Starting point is 00:29:26 and lets him cook on the stove. When I told her what he told me about that, she said that was a lie and said that she does not leave him home alone and she does not use the stove. And this is from the assistant state. attorney Denise Dennis no Dennis nice wander which is a cool name no Lauren Kovitz was the assistant state attorney that's this that's who was supervising it was Dennis but either way that's pretty damning right there you see what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:56 so it ain't no narrative to play with that's real shit it ain't it ain't it ain't no allegedly she coerced her son right not allegedly wow So I don't like what how allegedly or nothing like I don't like playing like that's my name you see what I'm saying well when you have the law saying that they don't believe her at all like that seems pretty strongly worded like they they clearly believe that she coached the kid and so clearly she coached her son bro right what the fuck like this out like you want to say like like you still saying like no no no I believe but this would have been awkward if we did this interview like two weeks ago when we were supposed to Because I was gonna- I didn't do it. Mm, okay. Because now it seems very one-sided. Before it was gonna have to be a little bit of like,
Starting point is 00:30:49 we don't really know. Yeah, because there ain't nobody got common sense. Damn. Did she give up on her side of the story? What, when you took the lie detector test? It felt like that was when she just decided to admit that. I don't know when she gave up on her side of the story. When she felt, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Right. Well, big-duty load the Lus come in. February 11th for sure what provoked you to make a diss song about her I ain't made no this song about what's it called fuck the net yeah it's not a dissing the net it's about the whole situation it wasn't no this song it was fuck the neck like fuck the net for throwing I don't know what I'm saying on me you feel me fuck the neck yeah it went no diss song definitely is there anybody that you are particularly angry at for but for promoting this story at a certain
Starting point is 00:31:44 point is anybody that you fuck with who was promoting it that you thought was fucked up for it when nobody I fuck with they know how I'm coming oh you guys want to promote that shit only haters and shit was promoting that shit and people that want to views and blogs and shit shout out Tasha Kay she the she one of the black ladies that took up for me really Yeah, for sure. In my team. Wow. And you're continuing with your lawsuit against her?
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't even want to talk about that. But yeah, I need that. Right. I would assume that that person doesn't have any money. So. I don't know. What she got? Just, you know, I saw like $5 million lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I'm like, well, that person does not have $5 million. $15. Yeah. Well, if they don't got $5, they definitely don't got $15. Oh, fuck you better. a fun way to go get it. I like that for sure. But get a GoFundMe going or something.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I don't know what you got to do. Yeah. So where do you see things going from here? Sure. It's all the way up. Fuck. It's up. It's up.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It never been there. It was just a hiccup in a big duty low coming February 11th. Right. Deluxe. How do you know my? friend brick baby shitro over here that's a gang how long you been knowing how long you been knowing him i knew i've been knowing bro for like four five years five years solid wow like seven seven yeah for so who else you tap in without in with out here in l.a
Starting point is 00:33:29 uh i brick baby that's it i don't you know i don't you know i don't think so t ms You come out here a lot? I slide it through here and down there. Right. I like the vibe. That's a fact. You like Atlanta better, though? I like moving around.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I don't just be in Atlanta. I'd be out here. Moving. Moving and grooving. It's a beautiful thing. So what do you want to say to the people out there in this interview? You're like, what points do you want to get across to them in regards to who you are as a person and how you've been misrepresented?
Starting point is 00:34:14 I think we did all that already. I think I just want to say, I just want to say big, duly low coming. Mm. Oh, 2020. For sure. Hey, I got a good question for you. What's up? How do you feel about NBA young boy?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't feel no type of ways about nothing that create narratives. Right. you don't like the stuff that he's been doing I don't care about internet stuff I don't care about nothing that create narratives right what about him putting O'Block
Starting point is 00:34:55 and the raps I don't listen to nothing that create narratives I don't feed into the internet that's the internet and it's real world right that's the internet
Starting point is 00:35:09 I don't feed into nothing that create narratives fair enough do you think people would be talking too much and songs on social media and shit? I don't create, I don't, that's, that's, that's music. Hmm. And it's real life.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So something must have changed though, because Chicago's famous for always putting that shit in the music. You're just not a fan of that? What? The street stuff, like we just know so much about what's going on in Chicago through the music. I don't know what's going on, bro. I don't know nothing. But my last leg, mine ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Respect. Um, all right, so the project drops when? February 11th. Who you got on there? I got a couple. You know, I always got something in the motherfucker chain, but just the way you see. Right. I got, you know, I got some edges on that.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Nice. I just threw boss top on that, too, my boy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I threw top on that. Zoo-wop on that bitch. I got a couple. We got, we got shit coming, man. that's good it's good to hear
Starting point is 00:36:22 adam 22 o tf duty love hey man the narrative adam the narrative creator you hear me no no what you'd be spinning that for
Starting point is 00:36:39 spin the block you know and the fidget spinner that's how you spin the block that's all this is the only spinning I'm doing my friend right here I just got this in the mail it looks like a spaceship it's cooler than like a lot of fidget spinners I've seen
Starting point is 00:36:52 before. I don't know where the fuck this came from, but, you know, it's kind of cool. Yeah, for sure. You got any hobbies outside of rapping and whatnot? I like cooking. You're a cook. No, I'm not a cook. I say, I like cooking. I like cooking for my family and shit. Where are your best dishes? Some roast potatoes and carrots and shit with some shit like that. Some little cornbread on the side or something.
Starting point is 00:37:19 What's the protein, man? I'm going to get fat as hell eating that. Yeah. That's why I grew up on him. Okay. Cornbread and potatoes, carrots? I don't know, man. I need some fucking protein in the center of that plate. Unseasoned baked chicken and shit.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Oh, man. Why do they always say that? You see racism still alive. What? I said you was eating unseasoned chicken and shit, man. Well, what if I told you that my mom is very good at cooking and seasons the chicken appropriately? Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I want to come eat some chicken. Now, in reality, you might have a point. My mom's chicken ain't that buzzing, but I don't think that you should act like you know that. No, I just made an opinion. Everybody else making public opinion. Shit, let me have my. That's fair. You're owed some grievances in that regard.
Starting point is 00:38:11 All right. So what else we need to know? We good here? Man, big duty low coming February 11, man. Shout out of OTI. Shout out the game. You know how to fuck we rock it, man. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Man, see this. much good street shit I could ask you, but I know you're just going to give me some cool pee-wee-long-wave Vlad type answers. I'm saying, what you want to, like, I'll put a dose of water on you and see if you were a detective. No, because what the other shit? All the other shit that pop up in my head I can ask you about is way more out there than the young boy shit.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Bro, this seemed like an interrogation, like this is. Yeah. Now, it'll be cool as soon as we're done recording, then we can get back to normal shit. You crazy, folks, now? All right. OTF duty low. Appreciate you coming through, my man. For sure, man.
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