No Jumper - Pablo Skywalkin On Overd**ing, Mall Sh**ting, Scam Rap & More

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Flakko talks to Pablo Skywalkin who bought Cookie Money, to talk about their life journey, ups and down, new projects and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm here today, man, with Pablo Skywalking, and he brought us a treat, right? I brought you all the gift of a rare, like, it's like Pokemon. I brought y'all a rare Pokemon card. A legend. Cookie money. How you feeling, man? Great.

Yo, so, like, when he says, y'all, and you are a legend, like, what does that mean? Like, you know, like, being outside, basically. Mm-hmm. Doing the things, young people, like, doing it good. you know yeah and you're from the bay right okay okay okay yo like he's so like he's so international bro like do be in in Detroit in here in China next day bro yeah so so how you connect with a bay area legend so make a long story short when I was younger and I just had started rapping and the bay had reached out to me it was a party promoter named DJ 12 yeah and they had

booked me for a show in Oakland and shit. Yeah. And then when I came out there, me and bro had linked up. And then we seen how similar we was like real brother. We were like long lost brothers and shit. And then we just hanged together every day type man. Man bro, listen man.

Like I does love man. Now like speak on this right? Because like because yo and your passport like must be crazy right? Because people be wondering, you know, where is Pablo from? Detroit, L.A. Cause bro like, because you are everywhere. So obviously you're from like Detroit. I'm born and raised in Detroit, but I'm big on, like, on mental health, and I'm big on just

changing your environment. Because sometimes when you're in the wrong environment, you might do the wrong things, like, not wanting to do them, but you don't know no better. So, shit, I'm big on just seeing the world why I'm a lot type. So I travel everywhere, but I'm really born and raised in Detroit. Like, got a lot of Detroit stories. It ain't like I'm lying and shit. Of course.

Like, I showed a lot of things how to dress. A lot of people know me since I was a child. Yeah. Like that. So, like, and speaking of that, right? So, like, I always said that I was from my North Dakota, right? Right? Right?

Because, like, that's where I spend most of my life at, right? Yeah. But there's some hanging ass. Like, like, come and I said, nah, he cap it. I don't hear from Philly, Philly, Delphine. I'm like, bro, why do it matter, right? If I spend most of my life in, like, North Dakota. That's how people be, though.

People quick to try to catch you, like, end up in life. Or people just try to put you in, like, a trick bag. That's what I call it. man, you feel me? But, like, what kind of kid was Pablo Skywalker in the choice? Like, was you in the streets really young? Like, were you, you know, square like myself? Like, what type of kid was Pablo Skywalker, man?

I was a spoiled child. Like, I was very spoiled by my mama. And even my father and my father, like a real gangster. But he ain't want me a part of the streets. But I still had to grow up in that environment. But I ain't never miss no meal. I always had clothes. It ain't like I grew up and ain't had shit.

But it's like, when I got older and shit, I became a product of my environment. And then I tried to also be rebellious of my lifestyle. Because I used to think just because my mama take care of me. Like in the hood, that shit, they try to make that shame that your parents take care of you. So I'm thinking like something wrong. So I'm trying to prove these. Man, I'm just like, y'all, I could go outside.

I could fight. I could do this gangster. But I had a great childhood. And I'd be lying if I said I did. Yo, listen up, bro. Yo, at this point, bro, like, we got to sort of file. five, like Pablo Scott walking as a realist Ninja live, yo, because listen up, bro.

Because, yo, like, most rappers go on coming this business, like, man, listen up, bro. I've been, bro, I've been, bro. Mama on crack, daddy wasn't here. Really, me, right? But the cats, bro, the cats raised me. But not, like, keep in the buck. Hey, yo, listen, man, you, feel me?

Don't be people. Don't be people that's not comfortable with their self. Just because you're positive and just because you love yourself don't mean, you know, pooh. Of course. It's just, that's our shit.

I still big on respect. I don't tolerate this. but at the same time I don't put myself in a position or a situation where I could get disrespect. Now, as a fact, and you know, listen, there's a bar, right? And for people who are not familiar with Pablo, right? Just a quick disclaimer for you guys. Like, you're going to get a lot of quotables, a lot of bars, right?

Yes. But when you still broke quotables and posted on Instagram, just credit it to me. Yeah, that's all I need. Even on TikTok, but it'd be moving. so fast, I'd be like, fuck it, though. Because I look up and I go viral on a whole another page. But I ain't going to lie, though. That shit happened one time, and it was a blessing in the

sky. So make a long story short, a boy had posted a video on me on his page, it got a million views. So I'm like, hey, see me that. Tag me, yeah. But that video he posted. Meek Mills had posted it, QCP. Like, a lot of famous people had posted it, so I'm like, damn, that's crazy

how it was a blessing in the skies. Because I wasn't saying nothing crazy. I was just talking about life and just being a rapper. man now you're 6'5 and that was the the talk in the room right when he walked in because most rappers are small scrawny you feel I mean like you know like little dudes bro walked in skywalking at 6'5 right

no pun intended yo listen I got bars too you feel me I got bars too right feel me listen to me let's sky walking at 6'5 but like was you like into sports hell no I hate sports I don't even watch sports to this day you're 6 5 I just ended up So I always like money. I was raised by like, oh, geez.

Even though I told you I was raised like, I was like spoiled. I still was raised by like real gentleman, not even gangsters, none of them terms. I'm talking about pull up in old schools on rims and certain shit. So I always glamorized money and flashy shit, like chains and clothes and shit. Because that's how I was raised. So I'm like, shit, dumb niggas ain't played basketball. I'm like, fuck basketball. Then I always liked the music.

I always wanted to be a rapper. Man. So, like, was a scam culture in Detroit, like, I guess as like rampant as it is now back in like when you was a kid? Hell no. It was like more sacred. It's like the niggas that scammed around my times,

it was a secret. And you had to know the right people. Around my generation, niggas ain't brag on that shit. It's just shit, nigga did. But it's like probably like 20, 13, 2014 when I seen a niggas start scamming.

Like R. Like RIP to my nigga poop me and shit. Well, he's a nigga from my neighborhood. But he's like one of the first niggas I've seen on that way. he had passed away but this nigga pulled one day on Monty Carlo on Ford Giotto was like

We like We know you get some money bitch but That shit was a long time ago But nowadays A lot of people say they do shit Just to say they do it And a lot of people just try to brag

On certain shit But where I'm from We don't like Not where I'm from But around my times We don't tell a person What we do to get no money Yeah

So like is that like gatekeeping Oh like so If you scamming and running up M's. Like, you should at least be able to put on the hood, right? Say, yo, listen, here's how you eat, right? So I feel like those times were gaykeeping the sauce. Yeah.

At the same time, everybody ain't supposed to have everything. So shit, it's like nowadays, a lot of people, like, even when they had the money, they was doing a lot of the wrong shit. Yeah. And a lot of people was just a lot of crazy shit was going on. So everybody ain't meant to know certain things. Because sometimes you might lead a person down the direction in their life that their life ain't even supposed to take.

Yeah. Because shit. Money make them worse. Yeah, money make a person worse. But then at the same time, people shouldn't even be doing a lot of shit. People need to learn how to get money just being their self. Yeah. Wait, here, right?

So, like, has money made you worse? I mean, the environment around me. You know, the people. The fake niggins start coming around. Family, you know, friends, all that, you know, people that probably even was cool before you had it. You know, they, you know, the common thing, you change. But they change because, you know, they feel like you should be doing more. face on what you do for yourself.

Yo, so, like, I was always told us, right? Now, I always thought that it was kind of like, like some messed up advice. Yo, when you get on, stay away from starving niggas. But then I'm like, bro, like, like, I have to go back to my like community, right? Feel me? And it's full of starving niggas.

So, like, how can I stay away from starfing of niggas soon? At the same time. Why you got to go back? I was about to ask from that. Ooh. Hey, hey, listen up, man. I'll be real, right? You can't you?

I'm being real, right? Feel me? Like, like, my community's good, right? You feel me? Right? Like, they're in the suburbs, right? So I guess, like, I only, like, said that because, like, I heard hood niggas say it a lot. You feel me?

But you want to know something? What? Hood niggas really don't know what's going on in life. Matter of facts. Hood niggas is living into the hood, and the hood is fake. Yeah? The hood is not real. Like, if I go to jail tomorrow, the hood is not going to get me out of jail.

If I die today, the hood might not even come to my funeral. No, if you really from the hood. I stood on a corner most of my life. Yeah. So the time, me being in my hood still, now I have not spent more time living than I did in my hood. So you think I care about it. You know, I have much more life to see, you know, than standing in one spot, you know. Yo, that's a really, like, a really, like, cool point, right?

Is I really care right? Because, like, if you grew up in the hood, you're a, you're on. your like entire life, right? Uh-huh. And then you get on and leave. Yes. And now the new niggas who hop on the corner last month now feel like they can tell you, you feel like,

you know, like, you're right? That's the new booty. But that's the nigga that just wants you to crash out. Because I didn't try to get back. I'm not no whole ass name. Yeah.

Like I fly out. Oh, no. Trust, we've seen this document. Yeah. I didn't fly all my niggas all the time. I didn't did a lot of shit from my niggas. But at the same time, that ain't get me too much in life if we've been honest about a headache.

Mm-hmm. So it's like what the more money brings problems, especially with what we know for, what we think we got to do with money. Like you said, we think we got to do that. Everybody ain't meant to have that type of shit because you could turn the motherfucker out. If you go give a crazy-ass nigga

known for shooting niggas money all day, what the fuck is he going to do? Shoot more niggas. Yo, that's so true, right? And, like, I heard the most, like the most, like, so like someone broke this down to me in the best way possible, right? They say, you know, listen, like,

and you can take somebody with nothing. I'm talking I broke down. and disgusted, right? And you give them, you know, like 30-care year to roll that blood. After the first year, oh, man, bro, they'll be grateful as hell. Oh, my, bro, thank you, bro, you saved my life. Yes. Then around the second year, you feel what I mean?

Like, and they start to ask themselves now, damn, bro, like, and how come, and you eat in Felipe Charles and I'm still at Wendy's? Yes. Right? And now they start to now, like, you know, be envious of the lifestyle. that you're created and thinking that you can do more, but you just saved their life and brought them up from zero to 50

because they got too comfortable in 50 now. Now, now, you know, these niggas think they deserve a hundred, right? So how do you even like, like, how do you even like make sure that the niggas around you don't ever, you know, like develop that characteristic? Because I want to be around them type of people. I didn't did this shit before, bro.

It's like Brody say, and Brody older than me, he didn't, we didn't have been through life so many times. We didn't live life about 15, 10 times. Yeah. We just looked like this. Like, we'd have been through so much pain, so much certain shit. So we already know who around us. We already know how the energy is. So I don't have them type of people around me because I rather break my own heart before I let a nigga break my heart.

Or I let a nigga kill me and have my mama and shit crying. So I just be selfish to myself. I protect my energy. I protect my everything because I did everything a nigga could imagine, bro. Like crazy shit, bro. But it wasn't no happiness or no peace in that shit. So that's why I'm big on just who I bring around. Like all of us, bro, everybody who see me with, we all do something.

And we all working towards the same goal. Man, bro, that's the key, right, to where, like, everybody looks. Like, everybody has a mission, right? Because the most, listen, like, when it comes to niggas, man, like, and I don't mind to me is the most dangerous thing, right? Yes. Because if I have a homie who is sitting at home, let's say, for 11 months in the year, right? Broke down, fucked up, and disgusted.

And he sees me once a year coming back, shining in. jewels and he had got, you feel me? But you want to know something too. It ain't even about a person being broke because a person that has nothing will always, some people that don't have nothing still wants the best for me. It's just like you said. Some of them people can't contradict, like

they mind tricks them. So it's not just them. Some people just want to be you. Like a motherfucker might be around you like want to be you. That's like if you have a friend, like I might have a friend. If I had this platform, if I did this, it's like I don't want to hear that shit because now it's like you want to be me, nigga.

So it's like, it'd be like crazy shit, though. But it's people that don't have zero dollars that loves me and I love them too. So it ain't just about money. Some people already got shit inside their body that's poison and toxic. Now, your facts, right? But one type of like dudes that I hate men is the, yo, they always got to play for you. Bro, like, bro, listen up, bro. At 5 a.m., bro, I pick, you know, like, yo, bro, I got to play.

I'm like, bro, listen, if you always got to play, bro, Like just, bro, like, bro, like build your own shit, right? Now, so growing up, you know, streets, you know, like a great family home. So when did you find your love for music? Shit. I always had a love for music and it's crazy you ask that, like, on my face, it's a Coke. That's my cousin, he passed away. But he used to always tell my grandma and everybody, like, he's going to make music and he

going to make music. So I think I dropped like my first CD, like, 2014. And I dropped it on September 7th. And it's so crazy that I dropped it on that day because my cousin, Coke, had passed that day. He's the first one that ever tell me to be a rapper. But ain't nobody kill him or none.

He just got sick. He had, like, diabetes and shit. Oh, shit. Okay. Like, that shit running my family, but he was, like, a real, like, solidified gentleman type shit. Yeah.

But he always used to let me see his computer to upload music. And then, mind you, my cousin, Coke and my pops, that went to the feds, like the federal penitentiary and shit. So I always told my mom I ain't want to do that shit.

Because I seen how it affected my family. But then even if my mama wasn't so strong, I probably would have never met you type shit. Like, I might have took that route, but I had a strong mother. Like, even when my pops went to the feds, my mama decided to go to college type shit. Oh, man, that's dope.

You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So that kind of made me to who I was, too. But that's when I decided to make music. Like, one time, this is a crazy story. I was going to this school and shit. So I go back to what you said, a nigga in my school, like, hey, my man's around the corner. I'm like, man, go to lie and I'm thinking he lying.

I was thinking he lied. Yeah, I was got to play. But I decided to walk to the studio with him. But then it was a real studio around the corner. And that was the boy I started making. all my songs with and that's the boy that helped me catch my buzz. His name, Pool Beach. Shout out Pool Beach.

Okay. Yeah, he famous as hell. He did the, he do everybody beats now. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yo, you, listen, like, that's kind of dope, right? Like, starting off, like, at square one with, like, every, you know, like, with you, like, pool beats, right?

Yes. And then looking up, like, six years later and seeing, like, everybody, filming, like, winning. Yeah. Nah, that's insane, right? It's motivational. Nah, that's a fact, right? But, like, what did you, here, right? So, like, for example, for me, bro, I've never been great at rap.

happen, right? Yes. So, like, did you always know, like, just, like, effing around and in the shower, at school, just freestyle it. I'd be at school. I used to be at school. You want to know something so funny?

Like, this is one reason I started really rapping, too. So I grew up in the neighborhood. It was so nice. Like, it's like, it's like a nice block, but the hood is all around the block. Yeah. But all the kids in that neighborhood, we were so tight. So one time I stole a nigga.

I stole a nigga rap off the internet, show. Oh. Hey, look, I wrote that bitch down. Hey, I got rap that shit. They didn't like that shit ass. So I'm like, damn. So that shit made me just starting making my own reps up. Still in trash lyrics is wild.

Bro, I stole a little rap battle like off the internet. Them niggins said that shit so ass. Get to the fucking hot air. I swear to God, bro. Yo, I go alive, bro. Like, I don't know, like, what's more like demoralizing, right? Like, and still in somebody rapes, or stealing a rap dad you thought was fire.

Nah, that's crazy, bro. That shit was so funny, but I always freestyle that lunch. Like, rap battles and shit, I always freestyle that lunch. Like, anybody that went to high school, know I'll come to lunch and just freestyle all day. Yo, what kind of kid were you in high school? Because I just, like, imagine, like, 6'5, light skin, fucking all the bitches. I was that nigger, for real.

Oh, really? But it's so funny, my mama made me go to all private schools and shit. Wow. I swear to God. But shit, I still want. outside like I was fresh as hell where prodders were Gucci I was crazy prouds and Gucci in high school man that is nothing I've been wearing that god damn I was in probably sixth grade if we being honest

god damn but I used to be in school I used to love fashion so then I had a couple homeboys every nigga around me had nice clothes so we just all come together yeah and then my man's and shit all of us was raised by like single momas and shit so sometimes when my people's mom's go to work we would turn their house up and all the house we had all the bottles and shit god damn so shit I always had like nice clothes I was just a cool kid. I was the same type of way. I ain't gonna lie.

So what? Yo, yeah, right? So, like, so, um, at my high school

and we had this era, right, where it was like skinning jeans and ugg boots. Yes. Did y'all had that same era? Hell yeah. Oh,

nah, bro. Those were dark times, though, my nigga. Yeah. Bro. If a pitcher resurface of Pablo Skywalking in some skinning jeans and put...

No uggs, though. No, I wanted some. I ain't gonna cap. My homeboy had some. Uh-uh? My mom would be like, that shit,

The girl kind? Huh? The girl kind? Nah. He had the girl con. I ain't gonna cap. Oh, wow. I just had some, but I won't.

I ain't never seen that era. But the reason. The reason I wanted some I ain't gonna count. I don't kept because I used to watch this group called the rich kids. Some niggas was from Atlanta. So I used to be on some different swag shit, but I never had the hugs. I wanted some. I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

But I had skinny jeans, but I never had the hugs. Oh, man. So, okay, right. So speaking of rapping now, right? Yeah. Bro, bro, listen. Like, I had, bro, I had that shit on, though. Uh-huh.

Bro, like, like, um, like, so, like, there's like in old pictures, right? Of me, like, with the skinny jeans on, like, with the, like, like, fucking, bro, like, tuck into the, to the fucking ugs with the, bro. Listen to that, bro. The fucking Cardigan was on point to, my nigga. Yeah. Bro, I thought I was that nigger, man, you feel me? But looking back now, bro, that was the most goofiest era ever, bro, you feel me? That shit was straight goofy.

You know what so crazy? V-next, too. You know it's so crazy. You speak on this? I just posted some pictures of me from 2013. Oh, really? They went crazy. It got like 7,000 likes.

Oh, damn. Niggas like, damn, Lo, I ain't know you had all that shit or been through that shit. Because a lot of people don't know about me. Like, they just getting hip to me. Like, a lot of people that fuck with me, now I don't even know I make music. They think I just talk on the internet type shit.

Brow, I came into this office and said, yo, I found the greatest hood worst myth ever. Right? Again, this was like, before I even found your music. Yes. I just said, man, ain't nobody like talking that shit

shit like this nigga right here, right? You feel me? I'm talking about, bro, I'm taking a video and putting it in like niggas faces harassing, you know. Watch this shit over here, right? So how do you even like balance that though, right?

Like, because a bunch of people like from, from, you know, TikToks, IG shorts, like see, okay, like he's just like, you know, like a podcast, nigga. Yeah. So like how do you even like, introduce the new audience to like the music. Shit. I really ain't focused on music right now.

Okay. Because shit, when I made music, I ended up in a lot of trouble. I'm going to make music again, but not really the type of music I have made before. I want to more melodic sound. Like, I used to make all good shit. So shit, it's cool as hell. You get paid just to be yourself. Like this shit I talk about, you can't even read this shit in no book.

Yeah. So it's already in my blood. That's a fact. So it feels good just to be myself. Because these are the type of conversations I have off camera. Yeah. And when I used to do this shit around people, they thought I used to be doing too much.

I used to think I'd try to talk their head off. Even when I link with bro, like, way back then, like 2014-15-ish, we used to have these type of conversations around hell of bitches and shit. Oh, no, you can't. Now, come on, bro. Round the holes, too? No, but we can't do that right over. We're talking to each other, bro.

We ain't giving the fuck about these houses. Scared the hose away. Shit, we damn their dead. We get the hose away. But we're so cool to where we scare the holes away. They ain't going to never meet no niggas like us. But I'm going to break a story down to you. I just to God's true.

Make a long story. Short, one day me and bro, we was with some females, and we just had a conversation with him. Then shit, she kind of broke down in the room, but she came back because she ain't never heard nobody talk like that. Then, like a month or two later, me and him had a concert, she gave me a bro a hug in the club, and she said, I ain't never met

her niggas really, y'all. That's a smooth pepper right there. For real, though, because, no, sometimes... Yeah, you gotta tell a female, like, sometimes you got to think these females go through so much traumatic shit, niggas calling them hos and bishops and just trying to fuck them. All they want to do is fuck them and trick on them. Like, niggas ain't talking to females no more.

you know, about their life or, you know, what they're going through, you feel me. They ain't really, you know, only on one thing. And, you know, sometimes you could touch a woman without touching a woman. Yo, how do you guys, like, retain that skill? Like, because it's like, because it's like, no, no, no, right? No, right. Listen, right, because our fathers, like, my, like, our dads are better with women. Yeah, some shit on your phone.

Right? Like, our dads are better with women because, yo, like, they, like, like. Yeah, right? My dad, like my dad, when he was a gang. I don't think he had a player This generation though Like they're not as skill Because like they like they don't have to go out

And talk to women You feel me? Right? Right, right So like you be like a young nigga Like how do you like retain that skill set of like Knowing how to be like a wordsmith And knowing how to have that mouthpiece

When it comes to the females Because it's in my blood But it's to the point where I know how to tell a female I ignore them now Like there's a lot of females in my deal right now Telling me I'm so handsome I talk so positive I'm for real

But they wasn't around this bitch five months ago. Like I've been this, nigga. I just start doing it on camera, so I just see how to treat a person. And I know how a person going to treat me. And then I've been famous before. I was a famous rapper.

But I quit. It's a Lord though. No, I'm not saying that, but I quit rapping until where people thought I fell off, but I just fell back because I had money. Gosh. And I used to think money was everything. Rappers, when I rap, was fucked up.

They was broke, bro, if we're being honest. Wasn't no iTunes. Bro. Broke, fucked up, but still rapping about being. the King scammer, which is crazy. So that's why I started. How many real flex on them now?

Four million, almost five. Yeah. And I was like back then. That's back then. Louis built. Louis Shoals, back then. I could show you. Back to Blur too, right?

Or Burr, yeah. Burt, that's when I first, like, me and bro really, that's my first time in Vegas. Bro, had flew me out. Oh, shit. A couple people had flew me to Las Vegas. And we had, like, we had a crazy time, bro. It was so many females.

I, like, I made a song called Mention Party about that night. Because we was in a loft. It was just so many females. I said, I wish I could. clone me. It was just all a little, though. Positive shit we had fun and we just, like, we had built a bond with each other. Here, right? When you say

like, I wish I could clone me, right? Are you saying, like, there's a limit? In terms of how many chicks Pablo Skywalking can fuck at once? I'm saying, there's so many females in that bitch. I don't know who to talk to me. I'm not going to talk to one, but it's another one. I'm going to go get some, you know?

So I'm like, damn, I wish it was two pile blows in this bitch. So it was on some shit. Like, it was like, that. And it was only like, about five, six of us. Like, men. Oh, y'all had it all. Females. Choosing, too.

All females. Like, and they was, like, love vibes. All smiling and shit. And they was happy. All players. How do y'all find occasions like that, right? It can, because when I go out, it's a sausage fest. It's niggas.

Yeah. And then, you know, like. But you want to know what it is? Like four holes. They find us. We don't look for shit. Mm. But we look for peace.

Gotcha. With themselves. We don't wake up. Oh, when it goes through all when they go through all. No, they find us. That's my problem. Whatever meant to be in your life, we'll find you. Females can read that energy on you.

Yeah. Like if you got that predator energy. Thirstiness energy. They don't want to, yeah. They know that they can't hang with you or get a few dreams and go, you know, have some fun. You only own one thing. As soon as when Netflix come on, five minutes come on, you are already. So you don't want to watch no movies with you.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. It's all about changing your energy to make a woman feel comfortable. And you've got to take away your bad habits. Because I used to love fucking some bitches Don't get me wrong I'm for real I'm gonna keep it honest

Nowadays I ain't pressed over no pussy Like I'm pressed on getting No me as a human Because I know I'm gonna die one day And I like look myself in the mirror And told myself like I accept it So shit I gotta figure out myself For I leave earth

Because I don't know what's after earth I don't know if it's a heaven I don't know if it's a hell Because sometimes we focus so much On heaven and hell to where we can live On heaven and hell on earth It's some people happy on earth It's some people in hell on earth

So it's like you gotta find your balance on this bitch and believe what you believe. Everything I say might not help the next person or a person just can't like, I'm trying to basically say like shit, motherfucker gotta let you see the world for how you see it. How I see the world,

the next person might not see it. So it's like everybody got to find out what pleases them and what brings them peace. Man, bro, like that's so profound. Here, so like just walking through like the rap career, right? So, yeah, right? Right. So, like, you, I went to the studio in 2013, 2014,

fucking around. So, like, where did you, you know, like get your first success? Shit, when I went to Oakland. And that was where you are? In Detroit. Hold on before we get there. In Detroit. I was still fighting, niggas at the stove.

For real, though. I still might wake up, nigga. They don't give a fuck about Pablo and no pride. They say, fuck you, Pablo, your Silver Spoon. You this, Pablo. So you still might got to go punch on the niggas. Shit, I went to Cali, bro. They embraced the nigger.

They showed me. I ain't even know they knew all my music. My first show was a sold-out show. It's on YouTube. And they rap every song, word for word. Oh God, that's where Everywhere a person come from, though, they might be like, oh, there go to that makeup

a blah, whatever. But when I went out there, they're like, we fuck with you, love. Love, the real energy. So that's when I knew, like, damn, I'm famous. I don't know I was famous. You lit. Yeah, so that's when I realized I was famous

when I went to Kelly. Oh, wow, man. Yo, bro, that's so dope, right? All right. So you came out here when, though, like 20, what? 20... Shit, I don't know, bro.

It had to be like 20, 15, no later than 16. That's probably when me and bro to leave. Because I was in college. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, what? You went to college? Where? Hell yeah.

I went to Kentucky. He just said that in the car, too. He said, man, I was going to college. I was doing good until I met y'all. Yeah. I was like, man. Damn. No, but he said, don't say it like.

But when I met broding them, I was like, shit. I wanted to get some money and have some fun and just be a rapper. Because my mama, I told you, bro. I love my mama, my daughter. And before I went to college, I ain't going to lie. I was getting money, bro. Like, for a whole week straight. A nigga broke in my crib and took all my clothes.

Oh, God, yeah. Because I thought kids in college was rich, so I told my mom I got to go get some money. I didn't see my mom for like a whole week or two. But shit, I had ran my money up. I went to Kentucky State at HBCU. How you run up your money, though? Shit, we ain't going to talk about. Shit, just being who I was.

I got you, got you, got you, got you. But shit, I just knew a lot of things. I need that skill too, man. Man, you got it, it's your mouthpiece. Bro. Bro, listen, right? Because he just said, listen, like, they broke in my shit. The nigga broke in my house, took all my clothes.

And I left and just ran it up up. It would have in a week. God, damn. week, went to college. As soon as I met some people like in my dorm room, it was like an outlet, a true religion.

I outlet like a two hours away. I made them niggas drive me to the outlet. I bought so many truths. Yo, those are the days, though, right? I came to school, fly as hell. But at the same time,

they didn't give a fuck about no clothes in college because all the kids is from different places. Of course. So I used to tell a female, bitch, I got on Gucci. I used to be one of them niggas. I talked about what this, bitch.

Flexing. They say, nigga, I don't know. What the fuck you got on? Yeah. So they showed me how to communicate with a woman too. So I started asking females about their day, what they ate.

So it would be a trial and air how I learned how to talk about certain shit. Yeah. But I had went to college for like two years and then I had got a show in Kelly. Then I said fuck school. And just left?

Yeah, I said fuck school. But the first time, like first semester of school, I stayed in the dorm room, freshman dorm. Second semester, I had a couple dollars then. Got a car. Got a little crib.

So shit. Then I had some of my hood. Which is a major? I don't know. I ain't had no major. I just went for my mama, bro. I love my mama. She just wanted me to try.

I was trying college. Undeclared. Yes, I was just doing like basic classes and shit, art classes, English classes, and shit like that. So I just walked with my mom. Yeah. Because she said, shit, she wanted me to go. So shit, I went to college.

Yeah, right. So you actually, like, just like, like, and spoke about, like, talking to women, man. Like, what's your thoughts on the new generation podcast, niggas? Like, you're saying, like, the niggas that do podcast? The rap pill niggas, you feel me? And who, right?

Like, they do, like, the man-women shit, you feel of me? Like, you know, like, Like what's your take on like these new crop of podcast and red pill niggas I look at it like this whatever please is a nigger please is a nigger because I judge nobody on what they does mm-hmm what shit I don't know because a lot of people are gonna watch that shit because everybody looking for something not facts but shit I don't know yeah right I judge no nigga of what they do yes right right but like this thing's hey right so hey rachel

hey rush people will say this man like is it really like productive for black women and black men to be in on podcast arguing about like, you feel me? I don't like nothing confrontational. I don't like ghetto shit, especially from black people. No facts. I hate to see a black person take a ghetto ass route in life or ignorant rope. No, facts. So I don't like to see it.

Us is black people, we do need to communicate a little bit more as a culture. Yeah, wait, we got to talk. Not just rapping to each other, not just shooting at each other. Shooting at each other. You feel me? We do need some type of communication in the black community, you know, especially men and women. You know what I'm saying? the rates of a black family surviving

it's like 8 to 2 So out of 8 Out of 10 families 2 might survive and stick together God Yo like listen like that's bad You know Yo now listen like that's facts right

Because I know like a bunch of felons right now Right whereas like it's just It's the most pettiest shit Like can break up a family Feel I mean like this just You know all right I'd be seeing girls with a baby one years old I ain't with my baby daddy.

That's crazy. Yeah. He was pregnant for nine months. Y'all want to know what that is, though, and not even to get too deep. That's basically, like, because I study a lot about, like, culture and religion. That's, like, what, Willie Lynch, like, the Willie Lynch theory? Oh, yeah. Everybody should go research that because he basically was saying he's going to make, like, light-skinned people,

hate dark-skinned people. Yeah. Big-nose people. So basically, they said we're going to, how they, they knew how to poison us for, like, to where this shit going to last forever. Mm-hmm. So this shit go on history and history. We got a lot of, like, trauma in our body and in our DNA and shit.

No, as a fact. As black people, we think therapy is corny. And then at the same time, we don't have nobody to talk to. So, like, that's why a lot of people let their anger out through doing some crazy shit, shooting a nigga house up, whipping the nigger ass. They think that's how you release your trauma out your body, but they're not knowing you digging a bigger hole for yourself. But we just got a lot of trauma in us, and then we don't know how to let it out. So we kind of really fucked up as a whole culture.

Now, man, listen, that's a fact, right? Now, like, speaking of trauma and, like, going through things, right? Like, is there true that you suffered and, like, overdose? Hell, yeah, I overdosed. I was just telling Brody that shit. What happened? All right, I'm going to keep it real because I'm big with, like, I don't even want to use. I could use the word God, but I know it's a different word.

Yeah. I'm big on universe. So the universe, we're very close together. So I start becoming like a hood-ass, nigga. I ain't going to care. Oh, man. I'm for real, like full-blown. You were in a guttus.

No, I'm talking about, I always was doing that. But I'm talking about I'm a part of everything that nigger doing. You could tell me, nigga did some shit around the corner. I'm a ride with you to see what the fuck's going on. But I should have never, like, and took on that life. So I was just outside every day thugging like a motherfucker. Yeah. And then it was the day before my birthday was my man's birthday named Boo Man.

That's like one of my best friends in life. Oh, shit. Boo Man, me and that nigga together, boy, it get wiki. Like, me and Boo Man had 10, 15, hoards in Korea. We smoking Zaza. Me and Boo Man shows the fuck out. Yeah. So Booman birthday, September 8th, my September night.

All I remember doing is waking up like the 14th of September. Yeah. So I woke up. But then I thought the nigga shot me up. I ain't gonna cat. Then I was kind of kind of fucked up because I'm like, damn, why a nigga shoot me? I'm so nice and cool. But then my mama like, because my mama was right over me, buck out of his hell.

Oh, wow. And she was like, nigga, you overdosed. Then my, I thought overdoses like some white people shit. I didn't know niggas. I'm like overdosed. I'm like overdosed. Yeah, for real, though. No, that's not stuff.

That's not right there. No, for real, no, because I ain't never heard of no. And I ain't never heard of no. No. No. Good-ass, nigga, overdosed, especially like, no, nigga, I know. So I'm like, dog, I'm feeling like a straight-ass crackhead. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, damn. Nah, that's crazy. I had sip too much lean on my nigga boo-man birthday, and I was popping hell of pills and shit, but the lien had put me in a cardiac arrest, and that's when your heart stop, your heart stop type shit. So my heart had stopped. I had a seizure.

Damn there died. I did die. I did die. It ain't any damn there because if your heartbeat stop, you did. Of course. So shit, that's why I feel like I'm back from the dead. That was my first CD I made out of coma. But it made me realize a lot of shit about myself.

So a nigga really overdose and a nigga, all that shit. Yo, hair, wait, bro, that's crazy. I don't pop pills. I don't sip, lean. I don't do shit. Ah. So, like, now you're just completely clean. Yeah, I just pray.

Yo, Ben, bro, like, that's perfect, right? Like, because I feel like, if you would have, like, went back to Sipelin, like, after God saved you, like, you just, nah, you just wild enough. But then it's deeper than God, too, not to sound crazy. Yeah. My mama, bro. Picture you wake up, you see your mama book out. And you hurt only some. And you're going to kill yourself for something so stupid.

So be selfish to get high for a high that don't last forever. Yeah. And then, in the mind you around that time, that might have stopped me from nowadays. Because nowadays, all the pills hit with fentanyl and all that shit. So that little me overdose and probably saved me from some fitting all shit. Because back in the day, when I did drugs and pop pills, you could buy them bitches from anybody nowadays. That shit ain't cool.

Yeah. Everybody playing with the fit and all. One pill can kill you. Yeah, one pill puts you somewhere you ain't coming back from. back in their day now you could get a pill from your grandma so it's just

God might have saved me from the future nah man yo listen right like listen like light that's a fact right now

I always call and Pablo Skywalk in a cultural commentator right yes a hoodworthsmith right so right

so let's dive deep into some cultural things right you feel me feel me some cultural topics

man so here like where do we go from if I yeah look uh and how about this um

right Gunna. Get this dog. What about Gunna? You sleeping? Yeah, she's sleeping. All that shit. Stanking like a motherfucker, but I love her.

Right. Shout out to my man's two that gave me that dog, man. What's the company called, Josh? Shout out to Pura Moricanos, man. Shout out to that dog. If y'all got some Frenchies, y'all trying to get rid of tapping until my DM. We're going to give them a nice ass home.

We're about to get a mansion for all the dogs. So if you want your dog in a nice ass mansion and trying to get some money, he tap the fuck in right now. Taping, tap and tapping, right? But what about gonna? So, all right, so people are saying, and he's snitching, and now his peers and contemporaries are, I guess,

like, ostracizing him, banning him, unfollow him, et cetera, et cetera. So one, just give your general take on what's going on like with that situation. And then two, do you think it's fair or unfair for somebody to be, I guess, ostracize? Because, look, because rap ain't the streets, right? So when I see, see, like, niggas, like, you feel? me, right? Because again, because rap ain't the streets, right? So, like, when I see, like,

people, like, coming, right, and treating this nigga, again, right? Because I understand, like, not fucking with him on the streets. But shit, that's... But I don't follow him in a rap game? Right, I come on. One, first of all, if we say anything, on this bitch, that's their life, that's their bitch. Of course. If I, that's one reason I'm not a hood, nigga. Of course. Because I look at it like this. If I'm with your crew, that's what we is till death. I never put my nigg in a situation like that. So I would never do no shit like that. That's why I'm not no hood, because I know it comes

with the hood. You were the crew of niggas, you might got to go to jail for life. You might got to kill a nigga. You might got to get shot.

So... Life a long time. I would never put myself in that type of situation. If you rap, with a group of street niggas and you rap, you're still in the streets.

Yes. Because your peers is not regular people. Wait, wait, wait, right? Question, right? So, again,

like, I always say this though, right? I don't care who's telling the truth. I just care. who can rap the rap, you know, like the best, right? That's your perception. Then you got to think it's black people.

We fucked up already, bro. Like he said, bro, the streets is the rap game. Yeah. They respect the nigger that's the rapper that shot a nigga. They respect the rapper that go to jail. So it's not no separating the two. Rappers get shot all the time. Rappers get robbed all the time.

So they're dealing with the same shit of a nigga that sell bricks deal with. So it is the streets. Yeah. So a nigga got to know what they put in their self in. Then shit. Nigger got to know what type of music you making. Little Uzi don't go through this type of shit. So you got to, you got to,

Watch what you put in our universe because you are what you speak on. I mean, but if you rocking with them dudes, I mean, you give me 10 millionaires. I said, I got to do two years. I'm sitting down with my homies. Hell yeah. I all to say, that's not with my lady's too.

It's more than just the snitching aspect. I don't want to listen to somebody who that, who don't have morals. Or loyalty. A loyalty. You know what I'm saying? If I take you from the hood. Being broke his head.

You're a millionaire. Yeah. And now we end of something, whether you street or not, you should protect me. You hear, right? Yeah, right? My question, right, is this, right? Because, like, for example, right?

You know, like, I hear, you know, a bunch of street dudes saying, yo, listen, man, like snitching is immoral, right? But, bro, like. But you want to know something not to cut you off? Sure. I don't listen to shit. No, street, niggas. For real, no, did they tell on the other?

As a fun. Hey, daddy's be telling me. That's more on the moral side of, that was your friend. That was somebody. That was somebody that was somebody that was somebody that. That was somebody that put you in a different position in life. It's bigger than just some streets. Yeah, he was supposed to love him.

Here, what's worse, though, right? Telling or going to somebody's house, breaking in and robbing a nigga who lives in your community, who's just as poor and fucked up as you, but then you just took the very little, right, the very little dad. He had left. So, like, what's worse? Like, telling or, you know, like, armed robber. brief on a poor nigga too.

I'm gonna let Cook answer then I'll answer. All right, okay. I mean, it depends on who you robbing. Because... A random nigga? A random nigga? Yeah.

I mean, that's kind of wrong if he's a citizen. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? Because you really ain't getting too much from a random citizen. They have a credit card, an ID, maybe an iPhone.

Yeah. I feel like that's wrong to put somebody like that in that trauma. You know what I'm saying? Because they had never forget. get that. They're not used to having guns flashed in their face. If you're a street dude, do shit the street dudes. You know what I'm saying?

But niggas like, no, right? But niggas will, like, rap and brag about that. I don't, we accept it. You feel me? I don't accept she. Okay. I'm talking about, we're not talking about, we're not talking even us. Of course, of course.

We're talking about as people. As men, things like that. You know what I mean? We understand the rappers, they got their own perception. You know what I'm saying? And they would say that an old lady, the 68 years old, you shoot somebody in front of her, she'd tell you would call her a snitch

when you shouldn't have shot in front of her. Not facts, of course. That's not her problem. Yeah, man. I don't respect a lot of shit, bro. I'm for real. I'm like a different type of neck. I don't respect when no rappers do her and nobody.

I'm for real, though, because they're humans at the same time, bro. I don't, like, I don't worship no whole ass shit. Because I'm not no thief. I never steal shit. It's like I could have came in here. It could have been $50,000. Y'all n'n't see. I'd say, hey, y'all left $50,000 on the flow.

You feel me? I've never been that type of person, so shit. I don't know. They both worse. Bro, listen, my facts, right? I definitely ain't telling on no, nigg. Especially if we thugging out. But shit, I don't know.

As black people, we got to start worried about who tell on who and who is what. We need better hobbies and better shit to worry about. We need to worry about telling on our credit. Now, that's a fact. As a fact, for me, because niggas is bored. Like, we need better hobbies and better shit to do with ourselves, bro. because this shit going last for generations

and generations so it's like it got to come to the point where we wake up as a person because every day you wake up you see some bullshit on the internet

nigga I robbed nigga got shot same shit same shit that's gonna happen for that so I just ignore shit bro

and then I would like to fill my subconscious brain with that bullshit yeah right so look so

if let's say this right I'm you know like hypothetical right me you cookie

and and the white guy right right Josh right right Josh. Right? So me,

you cookie and Josh, right? And we get like, you know, locked up, right? And Josh and Cookie and they're brothers.

And Cookie tell Josh, yo, bro, like take this plea deal nigga, go home to mama for Christmas. And if I hear

that he's telling him until I take a plea deal and put that shit on him, am I not allowed to until I take the plea deal too?

I'm going to tell you one thing. Yeah. I don't think Doug told no but he'll take you. You might as a scratch that My man, niggas lying

If I'm facing my life If you're a nigger, then I take shit Don't say shit I don't know They want me out of everybody Y'all hold on Because at the worst I'm getting the most time

Life, yeah So y'all just ride it out Until I get my time Of course, yeah That should be any You feel me, that's simple That's a code of honor Yeah

Ride it out Until like when I was 14 I had to I had a friend, you know, we got into something. I didn't do nothing. It was four friends. Just how you said this story. He only did something.

But we all got caught. He didn't want to tell that he did it. So we all had to sit in jail for juvenile hearts. I'm like, weeks. You know what I'm saying? And we like, bro, telling them through the windows, but tell him you did this. You get what I'm saying?

But, nah, that would have been wrong for us to tell the police. We just had to wait and get out and rough him up after. Like, bro, you could have let us all. all free, but we're not going to tell on you because that will make your time harder. You get what I'm saying? If we would have said, hey, no, he did it so that we would have been right. And I've been through some street shit before. Like, I got dinner got Rico before, like, swear to God.

Like, they thought I ran the whole game, make a long story short. I got into a fight and the nigga had got shot on camera and shit. And a lot of my niggas went to jail for it. And they were trying to make niggas tell on me and say I did certain shit, but ain't nobody say shit. And then I ain't say shit on nobody. And all my niggas that went to jail, I got one of my men's out. I paid for his lawyers and shit.

They tried to give him 25 to life. I get a lawyer like 25,000. He did four years for three or 10 murders and shit. So I already have been through some real street shit, bro. So that's why I got out the streets, bro, because it's like, ain't no way out that shit unless you're going to go to jail or get killed. So once I've been through that type of shit, bro,

I said fuck the streets, bro, because that's a never-ending cycle and type shit. Yo, yo, so like I've seen something online and that said that Roe King, like, told him with you? Shit, we ain't going to speak on that shit. But that shit, the past. I wish the best for that man. But shit, a lot of my niggas went to jail

Some of my niggas told if we bear honest Wow It just coming to streets, bro One out of every young niggas Learning One out of every three niggas you're going to tell You just is just That's crazy right

Because you pay for lawyers Yeah And I ain't gonna lie I ain't have it like that to pay for everybody Yeah But two niggas got the same time One nigga asked me for some money I gave a nigga a little bit

Last of what I did But the nigger car got shot up at that night I paid for the nigg's cars to get fixed And shit Oh no that's crazy I knew shit was fake, bro. Then that's when I knew I was too loyal to a lot of shit. But shit happened, bro.

That's the past. I wish positivity of shit. And I wish the best for any nigga that got a problem with me. I just pray for him. Not saying he does, but any human in general. I wish bad on no human. Even a human that might want to kill him. I pray for the nigga.

Yo, listen, though, right? So look, right? So, like, let's speak on this. So Clubhouse. Now, y'all don't strike me as Clubhouse niggas. Hell no. That's feminine shit. Yo, I never understand why, like, why, like, street niggas.

I don't even have a Twitter I do. He's making a refill so I was. Right? But I don't understand, right? So I should read niggas or like

in clubbos especially because I've seen 21 Savage was on clubbos I think last night. Yeah, I've seen that shit. And the audio leak, man. Like when you like heard that audio

of him telling niggas yo, you're going to die. I got niggas in Chicago. You're going to die. Yes. And it's saying like, like everybody that we beef with 30 niggas done died

He said that on a... On Clubhouse, public. While, too, listen, while staying in Atlanta with that DA looking to get any famous rapper in for a recomb. So, like, when you see that, what's your... Like, just, like, general thoughts on that shit, man. It made me not want to put myself in that type of situation because sometimes as a man, a nigga could trick you in a conversation

to make you flash up. That's like even when I go Instagram live, a nigga might say some shit making me... Fuck you, bitch, I'm crazy. Mm-hmm. No, fuck that. I just don't indulge in that type of shit. Like, clubhouse is messy.

You know, grown-ass man. be on no phone playing in no chat room. It's enough shit to do in life. I'd never be that type of nigga, bro. So shit. We gotta stop letting them motherfuck of trickers, bro, because a nigga would trick you out your life. I got a trick before, bro.

So a nigga would trick you, bro. Wait. And are you talking about the Mars shit? No, that ain't shit. And we ain't even gonna get too deep in that. But that's just woke a nigga up. It just showed me self-control. It showed me how not to feed and shit.

But for the people that don't know, I was accused of a mall shooting and shit. Right. Actually, typical. Memorial weekend. But by the grace of God, though, shit. I got house arrest and shit, and that helped me become the nigga

that you see right now. Yeah. I got way bigger than this. I start reading books. I start watching hood movies all day because I had to do two years in the crib. So you run out of boys in the hood. You run out of all that hood shit.

I start watching Kirk O'Banks. Who the fuck is Maryland Man? I started studying rock stars and studying human being shit. So shit like that, bro. God have come test you, bro. I wasn't always the same nigga, bro. I used to be a little more aggressive,

a little more tricky. Yeah. Because niggas always tried to, like, my whole life tried to make me play like I'm a whole ass nigga but every situation

I came off victorious. Bro, bro, like, I knew that like, you, you were this like super saying, right?

When you, like, threw a punch, got up and said, ah, I said, nah, this nigger different,

bro. I said, nah, this nigga different. Bro, he threw a push to the push and said,

ah, let's go. I said, nah, but listen up, bro. If I fight somebody, and I'll punch him

and say, ah, no, I'm good, son. But we feel me? That's how you flex on that nigga, though. I can't get too a detail, but you just got to get to a dick one day. Bro, like, bro, man. Yo, listen to the right. So, look, so, like, Lo Yadi, man.

As a Detroit native, as a pioneer for the Detroit sound, man. Yeah. Like, do you feel like Lo Yadi should, like, give up the Detroit shit now, man? You say one more time? Like, do you feel like Lo Yadi won? is biting the flow a little bit too much and jacking the songs a little too much?

I look at it like he could do what he want to as a musician and he really liked Detroit music because I ain't gonna like little y'alli hit me at one time. Like 2015-16, he said, I really love your music type shit. And he's fucking with them, though, so it's good he went out there and did some songs with him.

He just ain't say, fuck all y'all niggas, I'm about to run with his flow. That looked like some whole ass shit. But he did a mixtape with them, he went to the hood. That shit cool, bro. Then I'm big on whatever a nigga like. I might want to sing the gospel music.

Kurt Franklin ain't going to get mad. So shit, like, nigga got to just do what they won't. And he paid homage too, bro, so that's why it's cool. Right. But if you, like, come out here and start rapping

like Drake or the roller, bro, like, chill. Yeah, I see what I'm saying. But if I was on a big-ass platform and I did some shit like that, they might look at his paying homage. Yeah, of course. So then, you know what I'm saying?

So they might look like, that's cool. That nigga paid homage. So that's all shit beyond. Like, if a nigga don't pay homage and he takes something from somebody. that's when they look fucked up. Nah, yo, listen to right, right, so look.

So we're about to get into this, you know, a portion of the interview where it is lyrics reading, right? Okay. Where you feel me, you know, we, you feel me like we, you know, and take a look at, you know, a couple of your lyrics, right? You feel me? Yes. And just ask you to just break it down, man, all right?

So, and you says, man, I love these free bands. I need effing checks. lost my nigga Coke right before my birthday. Dilo called me on my phone and it hurt me. Now, man, when you lost a nigga Coke, man, and did he, like, you know, like, make it an issue? What you mean? So.

No, you said when I lost him, make what an issue? Like, talking about a person. Oh. Oh. Oh, Coke is my cousin. Oh, I thought you meant like you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I say, man, listen, no, man.

Listen, double intangx, nigga. That's a double, triple fucking the tundrains, man. Bro, a lyricist, man. Come on. No, but they go back to this story, I told you.

Like, I never lied. Like, I told you. Coke died September 7th, my birthday, September night, but Coke told me to call him. Like, my mama told me to call my cousin. She's like your cousin. Yeah.

But I thought, you know, that shit, he even been sick before and shit. So I thought Coke was going to get back, but Coke hit me up, like, call me type shit. So I'd never know Coke was going to die. Mm-hmm. But I lost Coke on September 7th for my birthday with September night.

So I say I lost my nigga Coke right before my birthday. Dilo called me on my phone and it hurt me. Dilo is Coke nephew. See, Dilo, like, Coke is my cousin. So Dilo called me like shit, Coke died. That shit hurt a nigga. So that's how I came up with that lyrics. I lost Coke right before my birthday.

My cousin called me and that shit hurt me. Man, listen, man, bro, this is bosh right now. Listen. And that shit ain't hurt me. It's hurt me. Like, that shit deeper than hurt, nigga. That shit. That shit, fuck the shit.

That's it fucking. That shit. Right, right. Right, right. So, okay. So, now here's one of my personal favorites. Okay. So if a nigga died a day, do not wonder why I rather that nigga mama than my mama cry.

Yeah. Why do you want to make niggas mama cry, man? My days, I want niggas' mommas to smile. Back in the day, I might have wanted a couple of niggas' moms to cry. I ain't going to cap because shit, that's just what it was, bro. We were just outside just thugging, bro. fighting and all that cagey shit but now I want niggas mom to smile

along with no nigger mom to cry yo listen like so like you said something like crazy right here let me find it real quick man now this shit yo what this is yo bro listen man like I feel like people like

legit bro just like just go through like your actual bro because you be like you be spitting that shit right they go over their heads yeah bro like it was a bar about weave head, let me like, let me like find it real quick.

I split your wheat. I ain't ever did not hear, but I split your weed. No. It's like protect your weave because like, hey, let me find it real quick, right? One second. And it was from, I'm back. Okay.

Let me find it real quick. Because, bro, like what I just like was reading through, through like your actual lyrics. I said, nah, bro, like, he's too cold to be, be, be, listen, bro, like, a fucking retired rapper is nuts. Because you, because, bro, like, again, this is from, from, like, years ago. Yeah, this is like 2014, 15, 16, autumn years.

This ain't even no shit last year. Right? And the lyricism was up to part, bro. And filming like, oh, yeah, walked in the club and I just came to do my thing. Bitches cover up they weave, because I'm about to make your rain. Now, bro, have you, again, again, it is, No cap'n.

Right? This is some real nigga shit. I got a real nigga question, my nigga. Ask me. You've been in a club. It made it rain. Where you've made it rain so much, the holes got to, like...

You want to know something? Like, I typed the head up with a body. A nigga tricked me one time to go to the club. This was my best friend. No, this is what he did. I love this nigga to this day. So one day he called me and shit. Well, we were together.

He's like, Nick, I'm about taking you to this party. Minds you, he takes him to a party with a bunch of niggas that I don't think they liked me at the time. So I love putting on the show. He had about five bands. I had five bands. We threw 10 bands in the club. We took all the ones they had.

So Hallis had to cover their weave up. Everybody got with. God damn. Like, God damn. It was one of the best parties I ever went to. Like, everybody was in there. All the niggas that's in the hood.

Like, even like a couple rappers from Detroit. I might have asked him about that story. They was hell of these rappers in there. But they had to cover their shit up. Yo, man. Last question, right? So tell me your best industry story, meaning like since you've been on.

Like who's like the most famous person that you mad? Like, tell me like your best industry story. Man, I ain't even got no industry story, but one of the best people I met is my nigger's saying, right, Bobby. Woo! Talk that shit. He molded me. I'm for real.

This ain't just no saying that shit. Because Brody, he's right here. I'd say that if he wasn't. But he just molded me up and he showed me shit about life. And then sometimes even when I was going to take the wrong path and like he told me I shouldn't have took that path. But it's like a big brother. He let me just go bump my head just to see what shit was.

A lot of people hit me up like nowadays Like record labels and shit Like Johnny Snipes hit me up and shit He was trying to sign me It's like a couple months ago type shit So just talking and shit changed my life Like being positive Or not

Shit I don't know right now I do some distribution with some companies And sign for like tapes and shit Like I sign for like one CD 2 CD but I'm not about to do no real sign I'm really trying to get this talking shit off the ground I'm bro That's the goal

I'm telling you bro But trust him bro Listen, if you just do something like, like, you know, like, like, like just like more consistent and recurring every week, my nigga. I'm telling you, though, like, it's going to go stupid, right? Because you got like, bro, you can come back here and filming, like, whenever you film me, bro, right? Right, right. Bro. So please, bro, like, start, like, bro, like, start a podcast with you, cookie.

And, yo, and, yo, like him right there. Him right here, right? Because, bro, I ain't going to lie, man. I just had that today. I go lie, bro. That nigga right there got the energy, bro. You feel me? Yeah, that's my blood family, too.

Oh, really? Yeah, that's my nephew. Yo, all you, niggas, too? Hell, yeah. I bet. Like, that's my blood family type shit. So, uh. Wait, and what, he's like, what?

Six, four, six? That nigga big as hell, shit. God damn. He gets all the hobs, too. Sometimes I got to make my bitches look at the wall when he come through. That nigga get to smile and the shit all day. You don't know what the bitch is loving that smile.

Oh, man. That's crazy, man. So he'd be getting all the hodes. and shit. But yeah, I just keep family, bro, and keep it close, bro. You are who you hang with. Bro, definitely, right? And your cookie money, we, listen, because, like, I just,

like, you know, just like dive deep and, you know, and I've seen, bro, like, you have, like, a long history, you feel me, right, right? Of, you know, of, like, songs with, like, Y, G, feel me? And doing your thing here, right? So, like, we actually need the official cookie money interview, too, all, you feel me? You know, I need that for show, bro. I swear to God,

and I want to say that while everybody's watching. Yeah. We're going to stamp that right here. y'all need an of course because you think i got a hell of a story like bro got a story story bro and this ain't no sugar-cull and shit like everything i say i mean this shit bro and this ain't no boost or no hype we ain't come on her to trick y'all we didn't come on her to kill y'all know for real we didn't come on here to sell y'all no fake narrative and shit we're gonna get y'all real shit we're gonna get y'all the best shit possible while we're on earthen just we're gonna lead

his legacy positive and we're gonna teach everybody how to be something be a man you know Be a man. The street shit, you can be a rapper. You'll be, you know, whatever title you want to, but you got to get a man. Get a picture, Josh, so we go. You know what I'm saying? Or, do, please. Like he said, 2015, when I met him, he's rapping.

I'm trying to leave the streets. And, you know, he's like, man, I want the chains and I want this. And I'm like, so he went and got all that shit. You know, where I'm like, man, you know, but it's, it means nothing. Yes, it's not working. You know what I mean? To a person that, like, I would trade this. You know what I mean?

And to, you know, I get that? You just from. Shit, bro. I need that, man. Shit, you know, get me that, man. God damn, you feel me.

You got to take the problems, too. Nah, no, not, no. Because, bro, listen, right? That's how life. Look, because, look, right?

Because, bro, because, bro, listen, right? Because, bro, like, I never done a crime. I stayed my ass on the porch, right? So, I reserve the right for, if I'm minding my business and you got me into some legal issue, bro, I reserve the right?

I reserve the right, so you feel me? So, you know, to tell the truth, right? You feel me? But with that, with that being said, With a lot of squares who's like, you know, talk about the gunners and all of that. Yeah. If you could take that route, then take the route and not talk about it. You don't, you didn't earn the right to talk about it. Absolutely.

If somebody bust your head about talking about it, you're going to be like, no. I shouldn't, I wasn't in it. Why is you, you shouldn't speak on no street shit if you ain't in the streets. You should just leave it alone. We're going to find a better term to use for them people, too, because they get offended when you say squares. That's why they're scared to take that right. Yeah, we need a different world. I want to be a square.

Yeah, because we went about top. Civilian. We want to be normal people. We're just going to be some human beings. We want to be some cool, grown-ass, man. We just want to just do all positive shit, a little crazy. Yo, listen, I like the term top civilian.

Citizen. I don't like to word. Come on. Top citizen. A good human. That's a nice human. Okay, okay. Normal motherfucker.

You feel me? We are human. You know, bro. Listen to a man. But, bro, I appreciate you. We appreciate you. Because a lot of people, bro, they ain't going to get this shit no more. And a lot of this shit, when they come, that shit is going to cost them a lot of money.

I don't know if they could afford it, especially if both of us coming, so shit. You feel me? If y'all want both of us on your podcast, TV, show, movie, at your backyard party, have your motherfucking money, right? Yo, right? Not right. Here, right. So when I did like my podcast, right?

And, no, Jumper, yo, bro, when I tell you, bro, I was asking anybody, bro, get me in contact with Pablo Skywalker. I want him to beat my co-hoes, you feel me? Yes. Right? but we couldn't make it happen but bro, I can almost like guarantee you me and you will do something together

on this platform one day. And thank you so much while the world watching I wanted to say thank y'all so much and thank you. And they're gonna have to thank you for even when they watch this shit if they learn something. They gotta thank you bro

because I feel like you found the me type shit so I appreciate you for being a man and reaching out because I seen y'all, I ain't gonna lie. You see me right? I was ignoring that shit. You see, right? I was stalking the nigga, man. You feel me?

I see, man. I'm like, stalking the niggins. Twitter, IG Live. Nicky comments section. Hey, niggas are in the live. Like, okay. But I appreciate that shit. Then I just said, fuck it, bro.

I'm a show love where love is due. So thank you so much, bro. Thank you for just bringing me and bro on this bitch. You have loved, man. Thank you so much. You feel me? Yo, and last thing, man, before we leave, man, listen, bro, you got to stop.

Bro, like, bro, listen, right, because look, at 3 in the morning, bro, I get, a freaking notification of this nigga on IG Live with bitches. Oh, you're talking about the movies. All of them how are they're on punishment. No, for real, because I was going live with hell of bitches, like, twerking and all that shit.

But I had to also lead, like, I'm taking this. Nothing wrong with no females or seeing those bitches. Twerking, don't get me wrong. But nine times out of ten, when I'm in their live, it's always go negative. They get the arguing. So I told myself, I'm done fucking with them type of bitches. Because ain't no great woman going to just,

college girl just going to get to shaking her ass after she's done her home, work on no Instagram or life. So a lot of them bitches be dramatically fucked up. So I tell myself, I'm putting all them on punishment for a minute because I'm healing right now. Yo, well, listen, man, free the holes. Get off punishment, all right? People, man, is no jumper. That might be a T-shirt.

Free the house. No jumper, man. Listen, coolest podcast in the world, man. Son of Josh. I forgot bro's name. Duke. Duke. L.

And. Elzy. LZ Duke, Josh, man. Shout out of y'all. Man, listen, man. No Jumper Quartz podcast in the world. We're out of here, man. Peace. Thank y'all.