No Jumper - Pablo Skywalkin On Overdosing on Lean, Moving to Oakland & More

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

Pablo talks about his lifestyle, being born and raised in Detroit, same hospital as Sharp, OGs not helping the youth and more. ----- 00:00Intro 0:00 Sharp welcomes Pablo Skywalkin and Cookie Money, Sharp asks him about his $300 features 2:20 Pablo on being born and raised in Detroit, same hospital as Sharp, and making music to stay off the streets 4:00 Pablo gives his praises to Cookie Money for changing his life 7:00 Pablo on his relationship with his father, and Sharp talks about the important role of a father 14:30 Pablo tells Sharp the story of O* on Lean 20:45 Pablo and Cookie say they stay in the house to avoid problems, Sharp roasts their outfits 24:30 Sharp says a lot of OGs don’t help out the youth, Cookie says some OG are manipulative towards the youngsters 28:30 Pablo says that once he gets some money he’s going away to somewhere tropical 32:30 Pablo talks about his new line of weed, podcast, and new music ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, ladies and gentlemen, got one of my partners up here and one of his partners who have become one of mine. Come on, I got my man Pablo Skywalking in this mug. The one and only.

Got big cookie in this mug. AKA Caesar Leo. You did. He's a Leo and his borg with me. I'm going to start it off like this. I think that, did y'all ski up here or something? Man, we damn their deal. You just fly in there.

Y'all ski up here, man. On the bitch. I see the Supreme goggles, man, you know. Well, you got the cash restaurant, you got an extra couple hundred. We don't even want the change back. We just grab crazy shit. Oh, slick talker. And we take, we don't want no change back.

Just give us all you got. And we take this shit serious, like this fashion. We just put this shit on and play with it type. We just have fun with it. We look at fly like a lifestyle. Like, everything got to be fluffy. You wanted to do. that I know that

you push the line on the $300 features. Yeah. You pushed the hell out. I bust them down. Hey, you push the line on them things, man. I see you all the time.

Like, you want to feature 300? Don't matter. Make sure it ain't whack. You be doing it like the Everest commercial. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're looking for it? Why are you sitting at home?

Come get it now. We got it for 300 right now off the gate. I look at them like them 300 is like, selling zips and shit. Yeah. Because it'd be times like a, you might catch four, you might catch five, but then we got the studio in the crib and shit. So a nigga ain't even got to lead a house, and I record all my own shit.

So it would just be some free-ass, quick-ass money. So I love using the internet to where I ain't got to do no crazy. Well, I think you may look at it as, correct me, if I'm wrong, like, I'm going to be in the studio anyway. Yeah. And I'm up in there create. Might as well be able to keep some bill money on this money and just keep it to where you can do your projects.

And, you know, you helping out other people as well, you know, and it keeps you working. Yeah. Keep me constantly working like a boxer in the gym. So it definitely keeps a, like, punching a bag type of shit. Yeah. It's kind of like how you said it type of thing because I be in a shit all day. Right. Like all day just chilling and, like, thinking and shit.

I'm a big thinker. So I just be thinking about all types of shit. You do. You say you're originally from Detroit. Yeah, born and raised in Detroit. He's born and raised in Detroit. Yeah, born and raised, like my whole life in Detroit. For it?

Like Henry Ford type of. Henry Ford? Yeah. So he's born at. Like some shit. I think Henry Ford, don't get me lying type of shit. Yeah. Well, that's a very popular hospital.

Yeah, very popular. You know what I was being born out of the hell. I was born in Henry Ford Hospital. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like I know, you know, like that's where I was born at was in Detroit. Yeah. You know what my family, my sisters, all them.

They went to Cass. Oh, that's player. So, yeah. My little nephew went to Cass. Casc's cool as his. Yeah. Is that where you found you wanted to do music? What guy was it in Georgia did you wait to come out to the West Coast to really get

to you? It was Detroit. I found everything like, I was rapping since I was a little kid and shit. And I was raised by like real like gentlemen and shit. So they was doing what they did and I ain't want to do what they did. I'm gonna be in the streets and shit. So I always told my mama and she wanted to be a rapper. So I just start rapping when I was a kid.

Then that shit just started taking off of me when I was like around probably like 16, 17. I caught a big ass fan-based type shit. Yeah. Like, because a lot of people fucking me off just my clothes and just being a cool. So you say you was already building the popularity coming up, man, and then just when you got to the music, it kind of just took off.

Yeah, it just took off. It was like God. She was having popularity already just coming up in school. Cool as hell by everybody lunch and shit. One of them just cool as. Was you a smart? Was you just a class clown? Both. I'm happy you said that because I was both because my mama ain't played that. Like, because my mom was a single mom and my dad

he was in the sheds. So my mama and she was big on that school. So I did both. I was a fool in school, and I made sure my grades was up to part type of shit. So you was an idiot that, like, I'm going to get my work done, but then I'm going to fuck with somebody else when I'm done. Because sometimes, like, I was a class clown because I like to entertain myself type of shit. I do shit out of boredom in class, get to playing around and shit. And then everybody would just catch on to what I was doing.

You graduate? Hell yeah, I graduate high school, and I went to college for a minute. And then that's around when I met, bro. Yeah. That's another story. I was in college when I met, bro. How did me? Yeah, I was going to say, how'd you?

So, uh, people was already hearing me to come to the bay and shit. So once I had, uh, came to the bay and me and Brody had linked up, he had brought his youngness through and he had made show. They was cool because they had wanted to do a song with me. So he had took care of him and May Show. They was cool. And then me and bro just took a big ass liking into each other. Like, we liked us the same shit.

Like, the first day we met, we was locked in. Yeah. Like, we were just talking about clothes. Next day, we went straight to the mall. Then I just love how bro was doing shit because he motivated me. He pulled up orange beam around gold, for her dives and shit. Yeah. So I'm like, damn, that's some players shit.

Because coming from Detroit, we've seen a lot of shit. I ain't ever seen them. But niggas is, hey, niggins is riding down through that motherfucker. Hell yeah, they is. Niggis is having things throughout the city of Detroit. Hell yeah, they is. So that's what really motivating me. I'm like, damn, my little brother, you doing it, then.

He just got a great heart before anything. Like, he got a great heart and shit. So shit, you can't beat that. You feel? No, it's good, man. When you know you can definitely move from a different side. of things, you know, Detroit, Midwest, you know, coming all the way out to the West Coast, you know, I ain't go a lot of church.

The West Coast doesn't turn to a lot of motherfuckers out. Yeah, it's like a whole... A lot of good way. You know what I'm saying? Like from, you know, you got a lot of people that then came from down East Coast and it came down Midwest and they come down to the West Coast and this is where they really spread their roots. This is where they really spread their wings and, you know, kind of, you know, deepened

their roots into the soil around this motherfucker. Yeah. So I mean, shit, I can understand it. You know, you didn't have no, you didn't have, I want to use a better wording of, did you have a, did you already have a supporting cast in Detroit? Hell yeah, I had a lot of support in Detroit, but I was always like a hustler and a grinder. But to go back to what you said, when I seen the West Coast, I just seen so much opportunity. Because I was still young and shit in Detroit, so I'm fighting niggas every weekend.

I'm just going through niggas shit, shit niggas go through. It ain't no crazy shit, but you know how that shit go, just growing up some places. Well, I mean, I've seen people get on even through. do they rap career out of the city of Detroit. I mean, we got Sada baby. We got T. Grizzly. Like, you know, you got people that have actually prospered off that shit. Prospered off that shit.

Like, stayed home and they root, you know. And did they think? See, that's kind of how my story was, but I came before both of them type shit. I'm like, 10 years before. I had a buzz 10 years ago. So I've been like, I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I've been had just left Detroit. But I can say it's a great thing because it made me a man. So I kind of went through life before.

name type shit. Right. Because I kind of stopped rapping, to be honest. Like, I never took rap series in my life. Why is it always the ones that never really took it? Like, never took a series be the ones that end up doubling back and going platinum or just doubling back and catching a nice buzz, you know, and just a nice fan base. Don't even have to beat platinum, but just making noise.

You know what I mean? And there be the ones that fucking done try to do it all their life, bro, and they still 40 years old. like trying to catch on, like, hopefully somebody pick them up. Yeah. I feel like it's the universe type shit, because I always trusted the world,

and I never did nothing bad against the world. Like, what I chose to do was me just trying to learn how to do certain shit as a grown man to grow up as a man. Because like I told you, I was raised by my mama. Like, even when my pops came home, we have our time, but I ain't never really had like a father structure type shit.

What about the time you came on with? How old was you? I probably had to be like eight years old, eight, nine. still a young, nigga. Young as he is. You was still young, bro. I know. You can't throw that one up in the air.

What you mean by that, though? Because at eight years old, you just starting to, you're just getting there. You know, him coming home at you being eight versus being 18, a little different. My daddy left at eight. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get it. He came back when I was 21. A little different.

Yeah. So I had to live my whole life without him. You're right. But your daddy came home when you was about eight years old. You know what I'm saying? So, and if he was. there. No, I ain't going to say it like he won't theory because that's how I'm talking shit.

But him and my mama went together. Like, he got his own shit. I'd go over there and fuck with him. But he still was doing his life because he was still figuring his life out. He ain't did nothing wrong. We only can respect that because he didn't live in the house. You know what I'm saying? Nothing's going to be perfect at that point. Yeah. You know, if we really

look at it like shit, he don't live in the house. He can't never 100% be there. Yeah. But I feel like not to say no crazy shit. I do feel like every man do need a father for. figure. Because when I got on house arrest, my father, like, we got way tighter type of shit. Because I had got on house arrest for two years and shit for some shit. So I had to sit in a crib. I couldn't go outside and shit. So it brought him to me type shit in the West Coast.

Right. Because I had got blamed for a mall shooting and shit. It ain't some shit we're going to speak on. Is that why you got pushed toward down this way? No, that's why I just, I was already down this way because I told you, I was fucking with Brody and Brody really showed me how to get money. I ain't going to lie on this bitch. I ain't going to sugar-coast shit. Like, Brody really changed my life. I ain't going to lie. And that's some real shit. So shit, even to this day, bro, help change my life. We helped change these other life type shit.

So I was always on the West Coast. But I was trying to balance having money, having fame. And I was still trying to balance being a real nigger, if that's what they call it. Right. So I'm still doing shit, stupid-ass shit. Like, it might be shit I don't want to do, but I fuck around, let a motherfucker trick me and shit to have me do some crazy shit. What's a real one stand for to a man like Pablo?

What's a real one to you? It's a real nigga. Shit, it's more than a real nigga. I'm gonna say a real man. Like, I be with bro all day. He teach me like about... I'm talking about yourself. Oh, about me.

Yeah, like, what does that stand for to you? Loyalty. Loyalty is everything for anything. You've got to have morals as a man. So really simple shit. It don't come with no money. I don't come with nothing crazy. Just be loyal and be real.

And your word is everything. So don't say shit you ain't on. And then don't be no whole ass nigger. Just be a real motherfucker. So that's it. To me, just be yourself. Shit, just be me. I ain't no gangsta.

I ain't no thug. I ain't no bitch. I'm just a cool ass nigga that like clothes that like bitches. So just be yourself. Being yourself is real. Everybody want to be

raw, right. That's like even a little ski masses. Like, shit, we some fly-ass niggas but shit,

we have to miss our hair card appointment. So we ain't on this bitch like, oh, we're some crazy niggas. You know how these, no real shit, though.

You know how all these niggas want to be crazy and that. So just be yourself. That's being real. So that's what I consider real, just being myself. To bounce over to, you know, the start of who Pablo grew in to be, what song or, you know, you putting together maybe even a mixtape at the time of album?

Because I remember a nigga 10 years ago, niggas was into putting a mix tape. Yeah, a mixtape together. He might be on somebody else beat. He might not necessarily be on his. He's going to sprinkle some of his in the mix, but it might be some shit he felt like he really popped off on. Yeah. You know, what? What song you felt like you really caught your buzz on, man?

It's some funny-ass shit. I'm happy you ask that question. So I always told myself, if I do this shit, I'm going to be serious with it. So everything I wrapped about I showed in my videos, like any clothes, anything I see it, I showed it. So say that to say, all right, my first video, that bitch was caught on Beck. So that shit got like 20,000 views and shit, and I was in high school. So I'm thinking that shit fake. I ain't going to lie.

I'm in school, everybody running up, Pablo. It's over 10 years ago. Yeah, so that shit, everybody thinks. Everybody's telling me that shit going crazy. So I'm like, fuck it. Because my first song, I dropped on a whole other nigger YouTube channel. So I was always like a technology type nigga. I told myself my second shit, I'm going to make my own YouTube.

So I dropped some shit called Flex on them. And that shit took off. That shit got like 4, 5 million views to this day. And I shot that bitch 10 years ago. But that's the one that really picked up. So once I picked up like that buzz, I started catching the buzz in the Midwest. And then shit the West Coast. Yeah.

Like the West Coast really embraced me. Like Oakland really like my second home type. So you feel like this is where you felt like, okay, they fuck with me here. Yeah, yeah. You got serious. You wasn't feeling that in the city, Detroit at all. I'm not going to say at all. I was feeling it, but I was more on my guard.

Like, I'm old shirt. I'm always looking around. I'm going to stay on my pivot. You feel what I'm saying? Because a nigga might can see you and he fuck with you, but he's not going to be like, oh, y'all fuck with you, nigga. But when you go somewhere, Nick, I ain't going to, Molly, never see you again. Nick is going to tell you everything.

His mom or name. what he like. He's like, I love you, Pop. I'm like, damn, this shit cool. So that's when I figured out I was a star. I'm like, damn, motherfucker's. Like, me and bro might be in the car, and motherfuckuckuckers chasing it.

Like, kids, like, 10 kids screaming. It's like real shit. And I'm like, damn, this shit crazy. You feel like you resonate more with a younger fan base or more all well-rounded? All well-rounded, especially since I've been talking like this, because a lot of people didn't know I was this conscious and could comprehend

and be so wearing shit. So not a lot of people see I'm intelligent. I connect to a lot of people type shit. I would have laughed at you if I didn't see some of the stuff that you was already on. Yeah. You were definitely in tune. And I watch like a lot of your Instagram posts

and like things that you do. And it's always trying to find some motivation to give people. You know what I'm saying? Like you ain't being a young dummy to where you're like, man, oh, this is what you should be doing. This is how you should be doing it to niggas. hurt this person do this do that like i don't see you really on that like you are very uh in your your spirit like that's all a nigger shit and that's all like some some psychological slavery type

shit they want a nigger to be a nigger to they die because i wrote a book and shit i ain't dropped this yet but it's called niggas so it's basically about what i see a nigger ass so i know like all that nigger shit that's fake shit and that shit they just poison our brain in so i'm like why i break a man down when i could build a man up because motherfucker's been trying to break me down my whole life you feel me but I just always stay strong and stay positive but then like I told you I didn't fuck around got blamed for the mall shit I only did two weeks in jail I'd have been in a coma for an overdose so I didn't been through some shit that showed me like God ain't got no favorite so that's what really made me start being more in tune than talking to people because

I always been sharp as hell but I ain't used to show people this side of me I just play slow on shit on motherfuckers yeah I play slow as you uh would you end up almost overdosed along would you Some lean, sipping too much lean day before my birthday. I woke up a whole week later. I was some lean and shit. So when I woke up, I seen my mama and shit. So I told myself I'd never look at, look at, make my mama look like that no more. That was a commitment I made to myself, so I stopped getting hot that day.

Saw something different to face that day. Yeah, I just seen it's like a nigga being in your casket and you just jump up at your funeral. Like, I'm fucking with dogs. So it's like some shit. I'm like, everybody looking crazy. Grandma's auntie. Everybody phase is looking like. But it's to the point they so happy I woke up, they can't be mad.

What do you remember about the day before all that happening? I really don't remember nothing, but I seen it on camera because it was my best friend birthday. His birthday, September 8th and my September 9th. So I was just in the club and shit. Burgos, a couple of virgos. Yeah, Virgo. Myself too.

So I was just in the club. Yeah. Dancing. Just getting high-sill. They said, I keep buying lean and shit. Because I used to be one of them type of niggas in the hood. Just overindulging shit. Yeah, you abuse it.

Yeah, abuse it. That's why I see, that's why I never did no drugs, bro, like, like, Coke and shit like that. Like, you know, some people, they try shit. They be moving around and, like, moving. I feel like us as Virgo's, man, we got addicted personalities. We do. So it's like anything we try, and if we like it, we overindulge. So it's best to kind of, you got to kind of know that about yourself.

I love you said that, bro. That's some really shit. For real. I ain't going to lie. That's some shit so true. For real. Because people don't know that about it like that. Once we do some shit, we want to keep.

That's like if I fuck a bitch. I want to fuck about six, seven bitches. Like, yeah, you over and dogs. Yeah, nigger hit a blunt. Nigger when it's smoked 10 blunts, so I rather just tell myself sometimes. And I'm sure it's hard to be humbled through that at times. It's hard, man, you know what I'm saying?

Because temptation is everywhere, you know, especially if you live in a life of, you know, music and people spending money with you and they fuck with you for your likeness. Yeah. You know, they want to do a party around you, you know, and shit like that. You don't want to be the person when everybody bust out some shit,

be like, oh, well, I don't fuck around and they feel like it killed a party but see me personally, I don't be giving the fuck. I don't even want somebody like that even fucking up around me, church. We don't even need to have that type of shit going. Access to night, nigga. Y'all can take that party to fuck up the street. Straight up, man.

We can't just do some drink, man, and smoke and do something normal. I don't even be wanting to fuck with it. I don't want to be out of my body. And then take the people around you to different elements. Yeah, I don't want to be. They get to feeling some shit you ain't feeling. But you have some of your own people that you never even knew they even get down like then

now that y'all have made it to this place. I'm like, man, come on, man, we're about to do these lines. Then we're about to pop this Molly. Let's drink this Molly water, nigga. Let's get fucked up. And I'm like, man, I could get fucked up and do the same thing off of just drinking and smoking. I'm cool.

I'm just doing what I'm good at. And what I like, I ain't doing that extra shit. It's how crazy you say that because I start hanging around some rich ass motherfuckers. But these are like, hell of like different races and shit. And they love them type of parties. And I'll be at that bitch. I'm cool.

Get me some walls. And being real, being in the music industry and going around them type of industry parties where people like, you know what I'm saying? Everybody's got a purpose. Everybody's got a position there. And you start seeing people doing shit like that. It's like, fuck. What am I going to do?

Like this might make this might fuck up the relationship because he's like, yeah, man, we're about to get ready to spend $500,000 with him tomorrow. We're about to put it together. Come on, man. Let's do these lines together. And you'd be like, no, get down like that. He's not as cool as we thought he was. We might want to re-acalperate this.

shit real quick. You know, like, motherfuckers abase you off that shit because they feel like they showed you now they want you to show them. Yeah. Or you're judging them now because you ain't doing it. Well, they'll feel like that naturally.

Yeah, they're going to feel like that naturally on me. So I know it does get fucked up, especially attending to them type of parties, Boblo. You know, and you say, like, well, fuck, I'm hanging around all races. Yeah, they got money. Man that bitch. Boothed it up, movie theater in the house.

They have money. Yeah, they having money, bro. Everybody doing it. They do them blow off the bitch. Titty, they're doing all types of shit. It's going up. You've got to have self-control, especially becoming a man and being an adult.

You've got to control yourself. It just sucks sometimes. The most dophines, they start off with, I was just having fun with this girl, and she said, try this. Yeah, not it, dude. And that changed their whole life. I ain't a lot.

I feel like, not to get all the time, but I feel like a lot of women do get being hooked on that shit. No, they do. It's because I'm not trying to, like, just pinpoint on the women, but it's like, you know he likes you. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just trying to be down.

You know what I'm saying? He probably ain't seen a pretty girl like you, and God knows how long. You know what I'm getting action out of. It's going to make the interaction better. Yeah, or he's like, shit, I'm going to do this one time and I'm going to be cool, but he don't know he's going to get hooked.

And he's trying to get on her level a little bit. Like, you know, well, let me see what it's, like, you're acting cool. Like, no, that bitch is fucked up. Yeah. No, that's real shit. Because that happened to, uh, Bobby Brown, and that happened to a lot of great musicians and shit.

Like, they start getting high because they're females start put that shit in their life and shit. She won't stay with you if you ain't doing what she's doing. She's going to feel uncomfortable. Yeah. But when you really start thinking about, is that the type of chick that you would want around you? Man, hell no. Come on, man. That's some big shit.

That's a big shit. You got to think about your livelihood. When you tell her, hey, that ain't good for you. I don't like you on that. I just don't want to see, you know, because I love these young rappers, man. I do, bro. And they trip me out with some of the shit that they be doing. And I'm like, bro, catch a grip of yourself.

Get some control of it, man. You know, you're having multi-millions of dollars and I get with having multi-millions comes of fucking multi-millions of situations. You know what I'm saying? That you're going to get put in. But, man, if you got to sit there and think about it too hard,

nigga, keep your ass in the house. Just keep your ass in the house. If a lot of niggins stay rich. I go back to sleep. You know how a lot of niggas stay rich? Keep it ass in the house. Come outside when you're supposed to come outside. Can I tell you a secret?

Well, I got to be a secret, nigga. We're on camera. The Sharp take. No jumper. That's the shit we do. The shit's coolest podcast in the world, nigga. This shit's out. That's what I just told them.

We do that all day. The secret's out, nigga. The secret is out, nigga. Sit your ass in the house and stack that dough. I told that it's a 20203 recession. Every day I see about 10 robberies in our city. I said, nigga, it's time to sit your ass down. I don't believe y'all be sitting in the house.

Y'all nigs got on goggles. Skie goggles. Y'nigs be out. skiing some damn wear. I don't see it. I don't fucking see it. We come up when we got it. Y'all have on outside attire.

This is not inside a tire. I mean, hell, I got on some inside of tire. I got on some fucking sweatsuit. Y'all niggas got on some outside of tire. You don't know if you're going to the club. You're about to go, nigga, hey, be out there and had a flag by your car because your Bentley, dumb broke down.

Are you going skiing? We got to do it all. I got to, you stay prepared. You ain't got to get ready. We just wait on God the call. Ready for about three. scenarios right now. You feel, we might go hiking, you feel, we might go skiing.

Call a bitch, might go camouflage. On their bikes. You feel when I put dirt bites on these motherfuckers, that got a helmet. I ain't mad at the shit, man. And Nicole Barre, you don't even see niggas at that type of foreign shit. Yeah. Hell, no, you don't. What if you, um, because obviously, you and Pablo, y'all are close.

Yeah. What did you see in him? You know what I'm saying? Because obviously he speaks highly on you, man. And he wanted you to sit in on this as well. So what is it that you saw on him when you first met him to push him to the next level? Man, I always told him I saw like a lot of me in him, you know, at a certain age. And with him chasing his dream and being infatuated with the lifestyle in the game

and he had the real vulnerable eyes and shit. And some just told me like, you know, be the person that ain't going to take advantage of that. You know what I'm saying? that gullible eyes of, you know, everything's so new to him. So I really wanted to just give him basically all of the real shit first. You know what I'm saying? Because I know I can make it look so fun. You know what I mean?

You run from the outside. And a lot of these OGs manipulate young dudes with that. You know what I'm saying? If you older than... How I used to look at old... If you older than me, you're supposed to have more than me. So you can't really manipulate me with what you got because I look at it like you're supposed to have it.

tell me something that I don't know that I can, you know, benefit from. And I see that that, like you said earlier, man, a lot of people who ain't really own that, man. You know what I mean? I didn't have O.Gs doing the same thing I would do. Had game. They rather benefit from the young niggins. They'd even tell me where to send them. Right.

They rather, because I think what happens is it's not a lot of, and I'm not taking from everybody, but it be a lot of OGs, it'd be like, young nigger, you should be, hey, give me the bread. Yeah. Give me this. You know what I'm saying? Instead of showing him like, hey, man, this is how you get it. I care about your church. Go, go make a little.

a move, you know. They rather take, take, take, hey, give it to me because I'm your big on me. That's why you should be. Or don't do nothing if it don't benefit them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it might not always benefit your homie at the time. It might just benefit him, man, but let him go win if you really fuck with him. Yeah. Or it should just be a feeling in your heart. You know, it feel good. You know what I'm saying? The help a young black brother and we all in the struggle, you know what I'm saying? When we're in the game, nine times out of ten, we forced to get into it. You know what I mean? You know what I by, you know, our predicament.

So we are, damn near, runaway slaves. I feel like people don't listen to that enough. Like, niggas really do be products of their environment. Product of our environments, man. You know me, you and him, we run away slaves, and we know a street where we can go hide at for a week. Why, you won't tell the nigga, man, it's over there. They swear you chose.

Rosa Parks and them over there. They won't give you... They're running in the pack. Niggas just going to let you run by yourself. They just your head chopped off. They won't give you the info and swear you chose that route. Yeah. And knowing that they had all the direction.

And they won't even there swear, oh, that's just what he chose. No, you didn't give him the game. He's stupid. You let the nigger go bump his head. That's why I said even earlier, man. Like, I was talking to some fellas earlier. I was like, man, you cannot allow somebody to trick you out your position. Keep moving, man.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't give a fuck what anybody said about me. He ain't got to give me no direction. He can try to give me all the direction. And I'll pick out the bits and pieces that I feel like I can take some game from and keep trucking. You can't rely on the next, loved one.

And that's a lot of the problem today is that my motherfuckers try to rely on the next. Yeah. No, nigga, you got to rely on you, homie. On yourself. You got to. Yeah. When do a motherfucker?

And I said, and I say it with love. But when do motherfuckers grow up, man? It's time to grow to, motherfuckers got to grow to fuck up throughout this shit, I'm going to, because life ain't getting no easier. And eventually, this is going to be some of the people that's running this motherfucker. So we gotta set some better examples,

even myself. That's why I'm trying to move a little bit differently. Like you said earlier about the chains and everything. Yeah, you might see this shit, but you don't know what it really takes to have this shit. Yeah, man. You have said? It comes with a lot.

They just see the glitz and glamour, and they're going to do anything to get to that level to just say, hey, man, I'm there. Yeah. And he bumped his head. You know what I mean? And that's why I love him, because when he bumped his head,

you know, most youngsters would be like, oh, man, you know, Fuck him. He could have did more to not let me bump my head. When you're a grown man, you get what I'm saying. I respect your knowledge of bumping your head because you need experience with knowledge. I can only tell you so much before you go out in that jungle

when you see how hard the bite is. I can only tell you how hard it is from my mouth. True. When you feel that, that's going to change you more than anything I can tell you. True. You know what I'm doing? And I feel like it's fucked up because they feel like when people get into high-profile

places people who have a name or somebody that's a rapper Pablo you moving and you just out as a public figure yeah they always expect people once you get there to never make any more mistakes yeah and they have to understand that life is full of making mistakes that's the way that you learn through it i i don't agree with some of the shit that they be having a lot of money and they're like oh well you should know better everybody fucks up bro yeah everybody politicians fuck up everybody Everybody's human, man. It does not matter because they're getting this big bag. They still have life lessons to learn,

and it shouldn't be at value of the dollar of why they shouldn't even be engaging in none of that. No, that's gonna keep them from learning and from growing. You're gonna have them stuck because naive to everything. Yeah, yeah, because you know, you don't, and that's why I wanted to be a different type of OG because, like I said, there's so many old niggas that still young. You get what I'm saying, and that,

And I see how some of the youngsters, you know what I mean? If you got 90% of the old niggas on dumb shit and trying to manipulate you, you're going to build that culture of young niggas. Like, fuck you old niggas. You ain't helping us out. You know what I'm saying? Niggas trying to buy work. They're trying to tax you.

Niggas ain't trying to throw you. And they ain't really no love. They're just trying to work even if you were a shooter. The OG got you around. He's going to call you crazy when you go to jail. But that's the only reason why he got you around. You feel what I'm saying? is manipulation.

Now you put him in a fucked up position because you really don't want to show him out of getting him money because you want to stay in the way. I was always a nigga like, man, when I, you know, I get in a position, I'm going to learn how to get out the way. You get what I'm saying? Let youngsters do what they do.

Let niggis shine. You get what I'm saying? If you had the block for five years and this is his first year, you should have five years worth of money to not be in his way. So now you should be able to say, hey, here, youngson, do your thing.

You get what I'm saying? You go ahead and shine. because now I'm in the back. I'm playing the back field. I don't even need you to be out to protect me and all of that other. You know what I mean? That stupid shit that these niggas be on.

Right. Where could we see Pablo Scott Walker? Where could we see you, man, in the next five of them, man? Next five years. Shit, to be honest, ain't no telling, especially being with bro all day

because shit, every day changing because I'm really on some grown man shit. Like, I'm really big on stacking money and saving money and flipping money and shit. So in the next five years, I fuck around be on the beach. beach somewhere with a family. I don't know

hood shit. I'll be somewhere in an island somewhere. I love tropical shit. I love just water and different shit. I just love different shit. So you say you're going to get your money, man. You don't get the fucking way from me. I'm going to fuck on. I'm pulling a McAvelli. I'm disappearing. I might not have no social media. I might not have

shit if I'm going to have some money. But I'm going to get the fuck out out of everybody's face. And just have a peace of mind because a piece of mind is worth more than anything. So that's what I focus. I focus on. I focus on peace and mowed money yeah money ain't shit we get money we fuck money you can lose it gang it but peace that's the hardest shit you can't go buy that at the mall you can go buy some nice clothes all that

shit but peace is everything so that's something i try to maintain not say search for because i got it but try to maintain out my life is a peace of mind oh lord i appreciate you coming to sit down me and getting me too and i appreciate true man it's nothing but love man y'all brought me a bottle of man to that gold aces you did brought me some good droop i'm ready to go pop me a bottle i'm ready to go smoke one time you did i'm saying cookie hey man i appreciate you for sliding through two man and just you know stand the next of your partner man you know you know no i appreciate that man bro like real shit i love him bro like and it's a lot i'm gonna say for another interview but man he molding up a real

niggas like we got our own little inside jokes and shit we say frankenstein we on some frankenstein shit we we frankenstein each other we just build each other up to be as sharp as possible examples for men. For men, no boys. Pay bills, you feel what I'm saying? Simple shit, like you got a chain. You might, you might, you know, eat steaks and shit, but do you got a king-sized bed of your own?

Simple shit. Do you got a PG&E bill in your name? You know what I'm doing? It's the bathroom clean. You got a mortgage. Like, real. The bathroom clean. The part where the piss and shit at.

You get what I'm saying? That's the shit we go on. Is you in a position where a bitch can get mad and put you out? So that's what we be on. We're building a real man around here. We're bringing that back to where whatever woman we want. That's what fits for us. No more designing ourselves for this culture.

You feel me when the old grumpy man was respected. My grandpa, I was raised, but my great-grandpa, he was grumpy and mean and the motherfucker, but everybody respected him. That man can't survive in 2023. No. And we tell each other how she is. His wife going to leave him. The police going to beat him.

A grumpy grown. A grumpy, grown black man is America number one threat. But my mama told me that an arrogant black man, you know what I'm saying, is America's fear. That's why we, you know what I mean? You know, we don't know our powers that we really have inside of us. I don't think anybody does, man. I mean, we see it in real life. You got niggas that kill niggas and, you know, wake up and get 100 million niggas from the aisle.

niggas jumping out the gym, John Moran. You know, we got a, we've been seeing black people do some amazing shit for years with no help. We got some type of special powers. That nigga, LeBron, almost 50 years old. Well, it ain't that close to 50 just yet,

but, you know, I do, I do get, hey, it does come around on you tomorrow. Pablo, any new projects, anything that we can be on the lookout for, man? You got anything. New flavors, new flavors, new flavors. I want to say, tap in with the Xylor and on telegram. But fucking with strands and clothes and hell of music, hell of music.

And we're working on the podcast too. So shit, just building, man, being a man and just being happy. So that's everything new. Every day I just try to be happy. We're nice clothes and shit. Just keep smiling. Because like he said, and like we all know, it's hard to smile. Like, as a human being in America, as a black man, any color you is,

It's just hard to be happy. So I just try to be happy. So shit, I want everybody watching love yourself. If you got a mama, listen to your mama. You got anybody in your life that tell you some right shit to do, listen to them. Stop trying to be rebellious and shit because they tried to make me a rebellious kid because my mom used to give me what I want. But fuck what they say.

Ain't shit wrong with your parent taking care of you because that's what a fucking parent supposed to do is take care of their child, especially if you young as hell. So just love yourself. Stop trying to be a thug because they go to jail. They go to hell. ain't no holes in jail ain't no pussy and jail so if you like pussy in your hose

stop doing shit to get your dumb ass locked up and shit that's all I gotta say Amen truth needs no support man I appreciate you all Amen cook I appreciate you

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