No Jumper - Philthy Rich on Police Harassment, Why He Doesn't Take Selfies, Rap Beef & More

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

Philthy Rich talks to Sharp about his come up, family dynamic growing up, Mozzy, Lavish D and more! https://www.instagram.com/philthyrich... https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ https://twitter.com/theonlysharp ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. In the world, create. Hey, and today, I got the Sim God himself. I got 50 Rich and the mother fucking building, mate. What's happening, man? Talk to me, man.

What's going on, man? We got to get it out today, man. Hard to get you for these interviews, man, you know? I'm easy to contact. Yeah, well, for your real ones anyway. Yeah, for sure, for the real ones. I can't say it wasn't hard for me to get you, but it seemed like you're gonna be just bouncing around like that, man.

Nah, you know, certain my fucking call me out. Yeah, for sure. So you're gonna make a move for it. For sure. Tell me what it was like, loved one, for you. Like, let's look at it like, okay, you just started, you got FOD, let's put FOD to the side real quick. For FOD, no BFE, all that shit, man,

these y'all all been doing. What was it like for Phil to, you know, just up and coming in the Bay Area like that, man? What was your upbringing like? I feel like I always said like it's the normal because like I hear different stories from different neighborhoods, different cities, different states.

For me it was always hustle. I ain't know when the next meal coming in. I ain't know what the next play was, what the next move was, but I just know I always wanted to do bigger and better. You know what I'm saying? I never was satisfied or content with what I had. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So I always push, you know, like man, this ain't, this can't be it. This can't be it. Like, I just know I always want it bigger and better for myself. Yeah. You have any influence coming up, but did you feel like you just had to kind of learn the hard way?

Like, all right, well, you know, I'm just learning for my mistakes. I don't really got no big homie. Like, somebody who's, like, really, like, hands-on with you. Of course, we all got homies, but. Yeah, I had a lot of older niggas from my neighborhood that I looked up to Mom, Maine, Jody. It was a dude named Skrill and Mike that passed away from my neighborhood. He was from down the street.

He was getting his money. You know what I'm saying? Niggas like that, that was, not like rapper-wise and nothing like that, but like, niggas on the block. Yeah. Yeah. You are mainstream for the West Coast, bro. We all know who you are.

It ain't no secret. If they never saw your face, they know the name. For sure. You know what I'm saying? The name has become a brand. What is it like for you to, you know, being somebody who came from that, like, man, you came from nothing, man, scraping two pitties together to where now,

You go to the mall or you go to the movies, go to fucking 7-Eleven, you got people probably stopping you, man. Like, yeah, 50. That shit really showed. Like, even when I got off the plane today, so when we got up the plane, somebody was in the airport, scream my name hell aloud. Yeah.

A fan of somebody that worked there, but that shit feels good and make you feel like, you know, all them long, hours in the studio, all the risks you took, you know what I'm saying, like became a reward. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I never imagined none of that shit.

Like, when I first started, trying to rap or whatever. I just wanted to do something different. I seen the way I was going, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, man, okay, I got to do something better, like, or do something different. I don't know what made me choose rap, but I'm just like, okay, cool, let me try to fuck with it. Oh, really, I should see kind of like some of the other rappers that was from Oakland. Like, they might come through the neighborhood or whatever.

And I'd be like, man, like, I'm really out here. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, these niggas on the radio, these niggas doing stuff. shows but I don't like niggas don't really know these niggas type shit yeah that's just got to be crazy for you man because you know coming up already in you know street movements yeah and shit like that yeah to try to cross over I'm sure there's a lot of shit that always tries to hold you back yeah if it ain't the the people you know it's the haters it didn't been family members it didn't it ain't been everything like so many obstacles that you know they get placed in front of you that you

you can get stagnated at times and be like, man, fuck the shit, I'm done with it. I'm over it. I ain't, I'm going to leave it alone. But, you know, you just got to stay focused. Like, I tell all my young niggas, like, man, like, the hate come with it. Like, if you ain't ready for hate, you're ready for success. Who raised you, man? Like, who was, like, whose household was you coming up out of in their kitchen late nights? My aunties, you feel me?

I stayed on seminary and seminary court. I stayed on seminary and foot heel. I stayed on seminary in Walnut, seminary in Hayes, like house to house, my aunties, you feel me, my uncles, you feel me, the older niggas on the block, you get what I'm saying? So I've been in the hood my whole life, so that's all I know. I'm sure it was hard for, you know, aunties and uncles, because you know y'all all looked out for each other,

so you probably being over at their house a lot, you know, they got an extra person to feed, you know, you might. Yeah, my mama, she'll probably make me mad. She stayed on, like, 57th and then Bancroft, you know what I'm saying, right there on the block. So I lead her house and go over to my auntie house. You get what I'm saying? Or lead her house and go to foothill and go hang with you.

You know what I'm saying? The older niggas on the black niggas I'm seeing getting money doing their thing. Yeah. That's just got to be crazy for you, man. Like even just starting your own empire for you, you know, and just coming up out of the streets because, I mean, what was the things that, like, saying you came up out of the sim? You know what I'm saying?

You came up off a sim. So what type of people do you feel like? Like you coming up like, Like there's only this many things you could be coming from up over here, man. There's not nothing else. What was your neighborhood known for? Like, just for what it's known for in just the movement. I mean, you know, I mean, shit that happened on the block, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, selling dope type shit. Like, that was my older niggas. That's what they was doing. You know what I'm saying? But they was happening it their way. Yeah. So it really wasn't like no, really wasn't no other rappers. There wasn't no ballplayers or nothing like that.

So it's like, shit, you're going to be a product of your environment. I mean, this is what we seen. This is what we looked up to. This is what we was around. So it was like, you know, it really ain't too much shit that a nigga ain't done. Being from East Oakland, being from the hood. You got what I'm saying?

You didn't fuck with bitches. Shit robbing, selling dope, shit, weed, whatever. You didn't, you didn't rapping. You didn't try everything to see what you was the best at. Yeah. When did you feel like this is what I was going to do? Like, all right, I'm about to get ready to separate myself from everybody else.

I'm going to have some hands trying to hold me back. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. I'm about to create this brand. Like I've always been a leader, even like in my peers, in my generation of niggas growing up, I've always been a leader. I've always been a nigga that stood out.

As in separating myself, as in building a brand, like when I just seen myself as being too known in the city, like it's like I couldn't go nowhere. I'm like, man, I don't feel safe. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, I got to get away. Like, a nigga always tell me, Like if you went to Atlanta with your hustle,

you'll be way bigger than what you is. But I'm like, shit, at that time being, I didn't know nobody in Atlanta for me to just get on the flight and land in Atlanta, walk around and be like I rap, no, that just didn't fit with me. What was that like being a Bay Area rapper touching down in some southern culture? Yeah, I mean, I just left Atlanta, and it's all love.

Like, everywhere I go, Detroit, Houston, you feel me, day go wherever, LA, wherever, is always going to be love. I don't really get no hate like that. outside of the city. Like, I always get love. Like, no matter where I'm at, like, shit crazy. Like, you know, the home always gonna be home.

You're gonna get love, but, you know, you're gonna get a lot of hate too because there's so many motherfuckers that's there that want to be in your position. You know, if I was the biggest ball player from East Oakland, it probably would be more love. Well, isn't it always the effect of the why him and not me? Yeah, of course.

Because they feel like, okay, I'm a better rapper. Yeah. I'm a better trapper. I'm a better this. Like, it should be on me, not him. You know, instead of them taking pointers from a person or being expired or motivated by him or seeing how he did it and you're doing the same way,

including that into your game, you rather hate. You get, but that shit don't work, though. You get, do you feel like you get better, you get more love across the country than you do back in East Oakland? Of course. Why is that? Because there's so many people

that want to be in that position. you know what I'm saying so many people that want to be like okay I saw more dope than him I went to jail longer than like that shit don't mean nothing like you know what I'm saying like those are alkaloys like think about like like niggins mislead the youth like the shit that they're saying is like crazy like oh man I was like you went to jail on it like nigga that's not nothing to brag about right that you got caught and went to jail like you know I'm saying like and niggas tend to mislead the youth like okay oh he don't be

outside. He don't be outside all day. My nigga. Fuck I'm going to be doing outside all day on the block. You were you were obviously a West Coast influence. Because you got a lot of influence. One of them with the music culture going when they see your name on a flyer, they all come out. I've seen

a couple times that when you do a couple shows of police come and try to shut it down before the shit even happened. What was that? Tell the story like what that was and how that felt for you like, damn. It's, it kind of understand from just my neighborhood, the shit that went on throughout the years, the name of my record label, you know what I'm saying? Some of the things I didn't, I didn't been through, you know,

they feel like I influenced the negativity, the drug dealers, the killers of the city and shit. So like when I be throwing shows or whatever, they tend to try to shut it down, really because they'd be wanting to be a part of it. Maybe, you know, having their hand. Now, you got to understand, the police is the biggest game, you know what I'm saying? So, if, I'm saying, so it's, If I was to throw a show right now in Oakland, they probably would ask me for like 10 Gs for me to let that go on to pay them for their pocket. Or at one point they wanted me to come sit down and talk to them.

And I'm like, that's not going to be feasible for me as a rapper. And, you know, these days, a nigga get a picture of that. They're going to have fun with that. They're going to run with that across you. You're a smart nigga, bro. He said, yeah. They ain't going to have me on the car. Yeah.

So I'm going to just accept the loss. Yeah. You know what I'm saying for the home team, man. Yeah. just take it on the chin, you know what I'm saying? So if they don't let me be able to perform because of that, then hey, fuck it. That's got to be crazy for you, man, because, like I said, you're a known artist, man. Like, you've really been, you've been obviously invested into yourself.

I don't know you signed it to any, you got your own label. Yeah, I'm on label. You move your own label. I just did another interview with another young man that I think he wants to be in your shoes one day. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like kind of having it out there and having the brand moving. It's got to be fucked up to.

to really try to, because you really are trying to change your narrative. Of course. For your life. Of course. You know what I'm saying? And to have the police like, damn, damn. Damn, if I do, damned if I don't. Like, damn, if I do bad, y'all comes trying to bust me up.

I'm trying to do good. Y'all want to bust me up. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like it's no free time for you, no free air to inhale. Yeah. You know? And I think it's just them doing their job and, you know, certain, you know, they look at certain shit in certain ways, you feel, me?

So at the end of the day, it's like, I'm gonna stand up for mine and be who I'm gonna be and I'm gonna, I have changing narrative. I have, you feel me, I became a businessman, a mogul, an entrepreneur, you feel me, a CEO. So at the end of the day, it's like, y'all are really stopping a black man from succeeding. You get I'm saying, getting further in life. Let's think about this, right? And I got to ask you, CFA, East Oakland, right? Do you think, like with the police being around, do you think that she gets passed down from

generation of generation. It's kind of like from the police before, like, hey, watch for their sons, because these the ones that's up and coming now. You know what I'm saying? We used to get their daddies. We used to get their daddies, you know what I'm saying? We should get them back in the day.

So look, man, these are the up and comings right here, man, we gotta keep the formula going. Or they might, or like, you know, the other niggas on the block or whatever, because like my young niggas been on the block before and they didn't have my chain on or some shit and the police jack them and be like, well, what did you do for him to give you the chain?

Like, shit like that, like, Like these artists though, like these artists on- People you're putting on signing. They're getting things with you. These artists like on contract type shit. Like you know what I'm saying? And y'all just already already just, you feel me, fishing for shit like trying to make an issue

or trying to find something. Because I've watched you have a lot of run-ins for nothing. Like I'm gonna be honest. Like it wasn't like because oh, because you hear about one of your shows, right? And I'd be like, okay, cool. You know, field throwing a show, you know? And then all of a sudden it'd get canceled due to nothing.

Yeah. It's just gang unit or somebody got a hold of it. I'm going to be real. Like back in the day, these niggas used to be hating so bad. They'll call the club. These niggas will call the club and be like, if you throw the show, this going to happen. Like rappers. Like, from the city.

The niggas will call the club and tell the club this. Like, it's crazy shit. And I'm sure your ass didn't get it no better going to Vegas because they do the same motherfuck of shit. Yeah, see, in Vegas. So it's a double whammy. Yeah, see, Vegas, I'd be chill. I'd be in the house. Like, I moved to Vegas.

Vegas to get away from the bullshit and actually be able to live. You know what I'm saying? So I be in the house. I don't really be out too much. I don't really be partying all that shit. I'd be chilling. You know what I'm saying? I do my dog breeding.

I fuck with my kids. You feel me, run my businesses and shit like that. I'd be from inside the career. Yeah. I've watched you, man. You got a good household name for the West. You know, I've never really heard your name in no mix. Yeah.

Like in no bullshit. Yeah. You know, so to watch you be an independent person who like really you you're not only putting the money on yourself yeah you're putting it through artists it's all legitimate money yeah for sure you know what I'm saying you've built it like I said I've watched you on uh Instagram you follow zero people yeah out of a half a million yeah there's nobody you follow you don't even put attachments to yourself because I feel like they like the police and other you know people like they're trying to bully you and that's crazy I'd be trying to tell my niggas that they're like

bro because you don't know what the fuck I'll be going through yeah like they're try to use okay follow him this is a part of that type shit and i'd be trying to keep my niggas safe and not the bullshit like it's been times i've had issues and my niggas want to say some or do something like nah like leave that leave that shit let me handle it type shit because i don't be i don't want never want a person to feel like i fucked off their life or something happened due to me type shit you know i'm saying so they might not look at it like that but i'm doing it for a reason type shit you ever felt like there was a a situation that throughout your growth Because you've grown already, bro.

It's only a matter of time before the top blows off for you. It's gone. It's already out of there. You're already set. Is there ever been a time for you to where you felt like, this might fuck up my career, like right now? You know what's happening to me right now? Because, like you said, man, you come from the streets, man.

So that shit has a tendency to boil over. Yeah. Not fuck off my career. I really don't got no regrets. Like, I look at whatever happens to a nigga in life, it's like, whatever don't key you make you strong. At the end of the day, if it's, like, whatever, whatever they come with, like, I'm gonna stand on my tin and accept it, you feel me, like a man.

So I really never thought about nothing that ever happened and I fuck off my career, like, okay, cool, now I gotta deal with this. I gotta deal with this. Like, a lot of niggas, they break under pressure, you get I'm saying? Like, I- Talk about that, for real, just a little bit. Like, for real, don't just let that one pass up. Like, people do bust under pressure, man.

They're not really able to handle, like, being a rapper is hard, just being a being in the line, like you gotta think about it. Everybody know you, but you don't know them. So I didn't see people play like they fans or whatever and really be enemies. You know what I'm saying? So you always got to be on tip all the time, not knowing. Can't get, never get too comfortable.

Because once you get too comfortable. And fans wonder why your ass be tripping when you see them. Like you ever notice that? They'd be like, I just wanted an autograph, but they don't know your mindset and what you look at. But sometimes, too, though, they approach me off. I didn't been, I didn't met a fan. I didn't met a man.

I didn't have a too. we are in Reno or something. He's like, hey man, you want to pick you? Do you want to take a picture with me or what? I'm like, no, my nigga, I don't know who you is. I don't want to take a picture with you. But if you want to take a picture with me, it's cool. But, you know, they approach me off

because they didn't want to feel like or seem like a groupie, you know, in front of you or whatever. They still want to have that persona of him being a hard, tough man, but still want to ask another man for a picture. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I don't take selfies with niggas and shit like that or nothing. Like, we got to have somebody else take the picture. Well, I got a picture with you.

Yeah. I'm in being the strip club. Got a picture with you, man. You was chopping, having a drink. I said, man, shit, I always respected your music, man. You and y'all are two of the ones that I can say I really banged from back out the city. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all niggas, you just don't got Oakland.

Nigger, you have Vegas. You got a lot of people in your back corner. For sure. I know that for a fact. It ain't even no bullshit. You very loved right now. And I hope that the viewers, you know, it's going to be a lot of viewers that know you and know how you be moving. You know, for you, have you ever had, like,

Like for real, like some real run-ins with niggas that really try to like, and we're gonna get at this nigga man. Like, fuck that, he's doing too much. You ain't got to tell no names. Just know a situation that you feel. That ran into me? Like, yeah, and act like they really want some smoke. I ain't never really bumped it to some niggas

that was on some bullshit like that. That really wanted some problems. I don't know. Just to even get out with you. Maybe like the older nigga from my hood, the snitch, that was about it. That was at the Vegas fight. That was it.

What do you do? I tried to blind side of the nigga when I wasn't looking but that was it. He ended up getting slid across the floor like he was mopping. You know what I'm saying? This shit like that

but that's a, that's a, that's a mother I really can't. Hey, this shit be nice to love. No, I really can't. He got slid, smeared in the corner. No, he's not in the corner like he's on punishment but he just slid across that motherfucker

like he was, you know what I'm saying? But that's really it. I don't really be having no confrontations with these nigg. A lot of these. niggas that shit be over the internet. It'd be over the internet and then I don't really see none of them either.

It's to be 1,000 for confrontations to happen. So I don't know. Like the niggas that be having an issue with me, I don't never seem to be real. What's a day in the life? Filthy? What's it like? Like from the time that you wake up

when you get up out the bed, before you even touch your phone, like what's like, what's your remedy for the day to kind of get you going and put, you know what I'm saying? put your game makeup on and get out here and have to do what you got to do. Shit, I'll probably, like, keep it real. I'll be going to sleep, like, around, like, maybe like 11, 12.

Oh, you're starting to act like, oh, nigger. Like, nothing good. Come after 12. Get up, like, 4-5. Yeah. You feel me? Get the dog situated. I might got to go to the vet.

Yeah. Shit, might need to find something to wear for a video. Yeah. Like I'm very productive every day, like especially when it comes to the music shit. I probably went to sleep doing some music shit. You know what I'm saying? So I just be really being, I've really been on that, just focusing on the label on my artists. That's what I've been doing every day.

Like I be telling them, niggas, you got to eat sleep and shit to be this shit to be successful. So every day I'm being productive. Every day I'm doing something. It's not like a day that I just sit back and rest and don't do anything. Yeah, so. But everybody know that about me. Like my niggas, they be there like, bruh, like we just went to sleep. Like, you know what I'm saying?

It's time to go, you know what I'm saying? Are you one that, because I know you knockout features, people call you, you know what I'm saying? Sure. Are there features that I don't even want to say it like that because, no, I am going to say it like that because I feel like you's a real nigger, bro. Do you do music with people that you don't want to do music with just for a bag or do you do that shit because you like me? I'm feeling that beat, bro. Or you'd be like, I don't want to take your money because I don't like this shit. I've turned down shit before I couldn't, I couldn't fuck with it.

fuck with. I put the beat on and I couldn't and I'd be like hey bro, send me something else. I just couldn't, you know what I'm saying? And I don't want to give you anything because I am a brand and I represent, you feel me myself so I want a nigga to hear me on that shit week and I didn't even just about the bread. So I'm like, okay, bro like this ain't this ain't my vibe right here can you send me something else?

It just go from there but I ain't just said no I ain't going to do it. I, you know, give them proper respect. You know, nigga spending his money. You want to hear a nigga's on. Hey, bro. It might be some shit like some techno shit or some shit. I'm like, bro, like, I ain't, it's too much work, you know what I'm saying? Like music posts would be easy and fun.

You know what I'm saying? If this shit, if I'm thinking too hard or this shit ain't what I'm feeling, hey, brother, just send me something else and I usually do it. Yeah. Yeah. What really sparked you, love one?

Like, for real, I gotta know, like what really sparked? Because you obviously took off. Yeah. Like, and this shit isn't, people try shit every day. People say, I'm gonna do this, and they'll stop for,

they'll do it for a weekend, And they'd be like, man, well, fuck this shit, man. Monday come, I'm back to the old me. You know what I'm saying? Like, what really sparked you, man? Like, I got to dig deep on this one. Whether it was a family member, whether it was a situation. What really did it for you that said, man, fuck this shit, my nigga.

I'm going to still be a hood, star hood legend. But I got to break away right now. Yeah, I have my second son. What's his name? Anthony. Anthony. Shout to Anthony, mate. Yeah, I had my second son.

at the time being I had a search clause a stay away I was on probation but next time I get wrapped up I'm going to the pen How long did you serve? A year but I'm saying next time if I would have went to probation if I'd violate the probation I did five years, three to five years you do.

So my friend I ended up getting killed on the block so the police come I'm walking my dog from my mama house on seminary This nigga stay in the I'm walking my dog by my mama house No I'm leaving the house with the dog Yeah

Homicide hit the curb Like two cars deep You already on at this point Huh? You already like kind of on at this point No I ain't on you I'm fresh I'm still on the block This is what

Spark like I gotta change Is what I gotta go hard I'm just saying like street fame Like you was already A well-known nigga Before the music Like just a well-known nigga Like

No no no No no I've been popular Been a nigga been having bitches Been having bitches been dope been having other dope cars all that shit

like all that fly living like the rappers wanted to when they was moving the other ones that made it I've been already doing my thing

so I'm leaving my mama house I'm going to the block I'm actually about to go get it it was a store on a foothill that sell clothes

so I'm about to get something to wear out the store and homicide they had follow me from my mama house they hit the curb

and then I threw me in the car I'm lying walking my dog I never seen that dog again that motherfuckerer and ran off somewhere or walked off somewhere

and whatever So they take me down to town of homicide, and they, like, we know you was there when this person got killed. You know what I'm saying? They had me on the footage or whatever walking in the store. So I'm like, you know, they show me different pictures of who this was and who that was. I'm like, man, I don't know nothing. Like, I don't know who nothing is. If you feel like you know who did it, what you need me for.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we need you to identify. I'm like, man, I can't identify nothing. I ain't seen nothing. So one guy was in there. He was like, my partner don't like you. You get what I'm saying? But he's like, you and your kid's life?

No, he says, your father in your life. I'm like, nah. He's like, is you and your kid's life? I'm like, yeah, he said, but the way that you're going, you ain't going to be in their life. So if I was you, I break the stereotype. You get what I'm saying? So I'm like.

You took the game from the police. You took his game. It made me feel like, okay, cool, I really ain't going to be in my son's life. And that's fucked up for my kids. You know, a nigga don't fuck with the police. They're gonna fuck. Of course not, bro.

I'm like, damn, what he said was, I ain't gonna be in my, you know, and I felt bad for my kids. Like that's what he said, that's fucked up. So from there, I'm like, man, I gotta do something different. Right. I got to do something different and that's when I chose the rap shit.

First song that you feel like, nigga popped out the gate, nigga. Whole Oakland was fucking with you when you dropped this one, nigga Seminary was on fire. It was called I represented. I did a video from foothill all the way to the bottom of the East 16

everybody all the whole seminary oh so e4th was every everything through the mix everybody was on it was in the video walked the whole block from foothill all the drink on that one he said yeah nigg i walked the whole block all my niggas turned it up e16 bryanley hayes harman all the way up the foot him all out church all the real ones man for real all the real areas yeah they was all in they was all in the video the whole block though but that one really that was like my first single off my first album. So shit. Ever since then, it's just been...

Well, I had to turn myself in in 2009. Got out 2010. And I was straight and narrow since then. You turned yourself out? If you don't mind me asking, what did you turn yourself in for? No, pistol case. Pistol case.

Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. In the club at a show? Protecting yourself. Think about that for a second. You're not expecting anybody else to protect you. Hell, nigger probably don't even got the money

to even spend for a security guard to have. have them get protected. Like, I got to protect myself. I got to go here. This is my future. Yeah. So what happened was, I was gone. I was about to leave.

My niggas got into it. So we're chilling and making sure they're good. And in the midst of me making sure they're good, the security called the police and told them that they thought I had a weapon on me. That was hate. Yeah, so I'm sitting. That was hate. I'm sitting in the club.

They police ran the club on me. But shit, like I said, like I said, I don't got no regrets. Whatever a nigger went through made a nigger small. It was the truth. You stuck out. You were shining too hard. That's just a nigga hating. Because I'll tell you this, man.

You know what? I ain't never received more hate from them from my own kind. I swear to God. I ain't never received hate from them. They don't know how to deal with you. White folks, all the top of people, they don't know how to deal with you. They can't really put their finger on you.

But niggas, they always feel like they either a little bit above your equal or better. They're going to always do that. They're going to always do that. Straight up. You keep saying it because, you know, they want their position. Yeah. You said that before. Yeah.

They want to be in the place that you at. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So even with you, like, okay, I probably could do a better interview than Sharp. I probably could do this. I probably could do that because, you know, they probably want to be in your position. So they come with it. You know, people got to understand, like, people like you and some of the others that I'm brought in,

I don't know around to you all on the streets, man. We know each other from the streets. You know what I'm saying? Like from doing things. Now we're in a different life. Now we're moving in a different life. Man, I'd have met you, man, on a whole other shit. Like, niggas that just move, man.

You can't help that. If you're somebody that doesn't move in your life, this shit is what it is, man, you know? And to see you always prospering and never growing any type of hatred, like towards, you always still try to help. You bring your niggas on up, man. Even if you got fucked.

For sure. Even if you didn't got fucked, you still bring them. That's what keep your blessings coming. They do. You can't, like, if, like, the haters got a job to do. Like, the police got a job to do. bitches got jobs to do the trappers got job to do the robbers so that's their everyday job when

they wake up is the hate people make the world go around so you can't you can't fault them for being you can't fault them for being a hater that's that's all they know how to do you know i don't had a person tell me before man i said and i never had nobody ever respond to me like this filthy i had somebody tell me i was like man you's a hater you know what he told me he said nigga i love to hate i am a hater. Never had nobody ever admit that to me. One one nigga told me, he says, yeah, I am a hater. I do like that. He said, I wake up to hate.

Yeah, a nigga like that, that's type of a nigga that would tell on you and all that type of shit, that's some crazy shit right there. If he meant, if he had been shit like that, that's the type of nigga. He damn there doing anything to get you out the way. Right. And that's sad, man, because you know what, to me, that's a nigga that truly

don't get no blessings. Yeah. He's not blessed, bro. He ain't going to never be blessed. He's very sad in life. Yeah, he's miserable. Miserable. Miserie love company. Yeah. So he's going to try to bring a nigger down to be miserable in him.

You are a very busy man. Yeah. Before I send the Sim God up out of year, I got to ask. Because I know in the Bay, there's other ones that's moving as well. You got Mazzie, you got Lavish D. You know, what's your, because I'm sure the people, they want to know, bro. You're one of the main headliners. Yeah.

For real, for real. Let's be honest. Yeah. Like when it comes to that. You know, I'm sure the world wants to know, man. What is your relationship with Mazi or Lavish D? I don't have a relationship with Tim, but me and Lab cool. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. What was... All right, Tim. Fuck. This thing just put me in a rock and a hard place with him. Now I got...

Damn. All right. All right, let's go. So what would be the, what's the, what's the problem with, what would be the problem with you and, the artist known as Mazi? What would be like, what was y'all, what's the, what's the riff a little bit?

Like, what can't you get past? It ain't nothing I can get, it's, nothing was done, but rap. Yeah. Yeah, it was a whole lot of rap, and nothing, nothing happened. Yeah. It never was an incident and nothing like that. shit

he made a song he made a song I made a song he made another song I didn't respond because due to the last song he made the police got involved

so let's left it alone from there that's where you felt like it got just a little bit too much from where you wanted to take it

because you not once the police get involved you won I don't hey that's a real ass nigga oh go fuck once they get involved

like me you can have that dub yeah you won Damn. You ain't fin to play with them. What I can say about you is, like, all right, man, hey, nothing but, you know,

I shook my zee, I fuck with him, cool. You know what I'm just did an interview and they asked about him. I don't got no grudge or no issue towards him. But I'm going to be honest with you. You showed up with 15 niggas. You showed up with four. That tells me a whole lot.

Yeah. Three, actually. Three walked in the door with you. Yeah. That's how I know you traveled lightly. Yeah. I mean. That's a real nigginess.

man to travel light man for real for real i don't see niggins go tochy man kind of showed me that too like i had a um i had a um he's a quiet motherfucker he moved quiet Gucci had when he got out he did a verse in the video for me on the block and he had a show and he had asked me to come out yeah and i had pulled up on him in the city and i was trying to bring some other artists that was popping in the bay and he wasn't having it he was like no man i fuck with you. Yeah. Just you.

Phil, you ain't never, my nigga. I'm gonna be honest. And I don't mean to interrupt your story, but I mean to be real, bro, it does sound true because you ain't never faked around here, my nigga. I know you, nigga, as far west as you can go. Like, for real, like, and you live there.

You've resided there. Like, and niggas know you, you can pull up. I don't watch you in barbershops, nigga. Yeah. You don't say a word to nobody. I don't fuck with people. I just watch. I'm really, I'm gonna keep it real.

I'm very antisocial. But I'm fucking don't know that. I'm very anti-social because I don't know the niggas motive. I don't know your motive. Like you understand, you meet these rappers and characters. So if I meet a nigga walking the door right now, he's going to introduce me, I mean, introduce himself as whoever his stage name is, whatever.

You ain't going to know his real name. If he's a snitch, if he fake, if he, on paperwork, if he, you feel me, all that until later on as y'all build a relationship. And I didn't happen to me a lot of times. You know what I'm saying? So I tend to like just fuck with what I know. What I know that's authentic. What I know that's Gene Will.

You feel me? I don't really need no new rapper friends and no shit like that. So you and laugh are cool. Yeah. I fuck with LaV as D. Yeah. I was in a video with him and General Fly.

Yeah. In that Virgo season, man, they was throwing a party and they ended up. I was out there for a party and they end up filming it. So I got, I fuck with them dudes. I just didn't know like, you know, you and Mazi, y'all kind of had like it. Not a beef, but like a rap beef. Like, motherfuckers hear subs getting thorn.

That's what I would consider it. Yeah, a rap beef. Like, you know. Yeah. Like, I mean, we had a disagreement. Songs came out. Like I said, I started responding after the people got involved and I left for that, that you feel.

Me like I was winning before, I'm still winning now. Like, that shit ain't slow me down, hurt me and nothing. That shit ain't do nothing to me. Well, nobody can blame you for that, you know, being a street nigger like yourself and just coming from what you, nobody police is and I don't knock the police authority

hey man do your job but that should be cringy when y'all come get on real niggas backs that really don't be having really nothing going on y'all just want to watch it because it's shining because it's shining and it's shining hard so they don't really be knowing bro who to who to capture they don't really know who to come grab like you said man you own a fucking you

on a label yeah you on your label man FOD I got partners that come from up under you man that's from cross country North Carolina South Carolina just just from all different type of demographics. So I do know that

you are a man that do take care of your business. For sure. I take care of my business, my family, my niggas. Anything you feel me that's pushing my movement, you get what I'm saying? So that's why I like to fuck with niggas that's going to push the movement, not the moment. Yeah. So. Before we get up out of you, you got any features going on?

You got any type of music? You know what? My album is all right now. Motivational purpose. Where can we find that? Everywhere. That shit, everywhere. We're already doing what it's supposed to be doing. And on May 9th, I'm dropping a compilation with the whole F-O-D called infrastructure. It's dropping on May 9th, though. The whole squad.

Everybody on there. Even Dane. That's my nigga, Bob. Dane, my nigga, little-d-old. Yeah, little pretty. A little-P-Dame. Steve, Trey, Loso. Shut out, a little-preet.

D. Y'all, my niggas from F-O-D. I'm gonna be for real, for real. I mean, them niggas, boss hogs through it, nigger for the music. They hounds for it, monsters. For sure, for sure. Like I said, like I just, like just to fuck what's real, bro, and shit I can relate to, bro.

All that fake-ass shit, that shit ain't genuine, man. Just keep that shit away from a nigga, man. Right. Real. That's how you last, not coming last. You did. It was, you were a very hard man to get, man. I swear.

Not even for me, but I just watch what you do for other, like how you don't fuck with other people. That's how I know you are telling the truth. Like, it's very hard to get an interview from you. So to have you just even come and spend some of your time with me, man. Hey, church, I thank you for real, my nigga. And I just hope that I can bring you back, man, in the future because I know you're going to keep dropping shit.

I know shit going to do what it do. Man, hey, man. Shout out your section, man. Let them know something. Hey, man. Shout out seminary. Whole East Oakland, man. We're putting on, man.

May 9th, FOD, the infrastructure dropping, man. It's filthy. The man doesn't set enough, man. For real, for real. I can't even target him. Hey, man. The sharp tank. No jumper.

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