No Jumper - Pimpin Ken on Being a Legendary Pimp, How He Got His First Girl & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm about to show niggas what a real living legend look like. Because motherfuckers always talk about a legend, but you know, you can't be a legend if you don't got legacy. I got Pippie Keen in the motherfucking building here today, ladies and gentlemen. And we're about to get ready to kick this shit off right, man. We're gonna kick the game for what we know it as.

Starting point is 00:00:31 You dig what I'm saying? So I really fuck with you, church. I do, man. I've always respected the game you've given. And I'm not even talking about some of the tracks that you've been on because you've had the opportunities of working with. Bishop Don Juan. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:47 And even in the music game. Yeah, and just even in that game, but just even in the music game. Just, yeah, people just to know. Just to give people a few. I started off with Germain Jopree, 50 Cent, Two Short, E-40, I. T, Big Daddy King, man, the Young Bloods, man, Pastor Troite, you know, man, so many albums I've been on. See, now you got me on the spot. Yeah, come on.

Starting point is 00:01:11 Work with Alcats, work with Little Flip, did albums with Little Flip, did albums with Pempsie, five albums with Pempsie. Did solo join with B and J. Prince over there rap a lot. I did, man, so many. Baby Jew, Cuckoo Cow, Big Hank. You know what I'm saying? Supreme the great, Richy Rich, you know what I'm saying? Did something with candy.

Starting point is 00:01:34 I did something her album recently. I got, I'm on brick by brick album with my man, Cash. So you know what I did? I did a lot of records. I just wanted to give, you know, the viewers a little rundown so they can know, may, they're not sitting here. We're not sitting here and there's no sucker, man.

Starting point is 00:01:50 It's a real one. It's somebody that I know that have came from the game. You did? Man, I was hoping to see you, man. Honestly, it, uh. Kenny Reed. Kenny Redd's, you have I'm saying, rest in peace. Kenny Redd, I was hoping to see you there, man, at the funeral.

Starting point is 00:02:04 I got an excuse. They booked the whole entire hip-hop fraternity for the BETT experience. So we was doing show day after day after day, and they gave us a bag. So you know what I mean? It was either I forfeit the bag and forfeit their money or I go ahead and attend the BETT Awards. So we had to do the VETA awards. So, but I was here in Cali, I think I called you when I was here. I was talking to you.

Starting point is 00:02:25 And I was telling you, I said, when is Kenny Red a funeral was going to be? because I was hoping that it'd be there be before we had left because we were just here for the Emmy Awards. Richie Richard had performed at the pre-emmy award, so we're trying to make that shit happen. I know Richie, Rich. Look, big-ass, shitty, shit he grew in on his face. I actually interviewed him a while back.

Starting point is 00:02:46 Is he official like a referee Whistler? Yeah, all right. Yeah, I'll give him that. I just be wanting him to go harder, that's all. Because, you know, I feel like when you tell him, I'm a motherfucker, like, you're great, you're excellent, you're amazing. They get stuck there. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:00 You know, you tell my fuck, they're all right. There's room for improvement, right? Come on, church. I'm just leaving his room for improvement. Yeah, man, he got the match for his reaction. No passion, man. You did what I'm saying? Hey, Richie, Rich, you heard it, man.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, man. Hey, man, take your feet off these folks deck, man. Yeah, man. I'm just telling him what it is, man, not just what it needs to look like. Yeah, it is. What it is and not what it is, man. Yeah. So talk to me, Ken.

Starting point is 00:03:26 Let's dive into it, shall we? I just wanted that introduction. So for people that so they can know, man, like you were a man that came from the game, you know, and just being even successful, just even being in the music game, man. Like, you went far as our kind. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:03:43 Like, to even go touch that and even be able to turn in, you know, your whistles and all that type of shit, you know, your whistles and your ism and all that, man, and pick up a tax license. You did? You know what I'm saying? So that's got to be one hell of a transition, but we're going to dive into this.

Starting point is 00:03:57 that. I want to know, again, tell us, man, where did you grow up, man? Where are you from? Well, ma'am, I was born in Chicago, Cook County Hospital, you know what I'm saying, 47-59 South Federal. That's the Robert Taylor Projects, you know what I'm saying, grew up up there, you'm saying, got in some trouble, you know what I mean, called attempted murder when I was 14, the youngest dude ever to be in a Cook County jail, me and my brother, you know what I'm saying, we had the murder case, attempted murder case, we beat that, and then we went to Milwaukee, got to Milwaukee, called a Feds case, you know, tried to cash a check with my name on, you know, I was I was slow motion like the bottom of the ocean, man. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, that's a big pivot, man. I was mixed checking, man. Yeah, it's okay, yeah. Check cash, right, this motherfucker. Right, right, right. So that shit happened, man. Then, you know, that's when I started fucking with niggas and shit.

Starting point is 00:04:41 You know, my daddy was a player, you know, my daddy had holes and shit, you know what I'm saying? You know, he was a craps shooter, you know, he was a player, you know, straight up out of Oxford, Mississippi. My uncles was players. So I grew up every inch of my life in the game. You know what I'm saying? I mean, even when he was in Chicago, you know, my father used to put our dice, his dice and our Monopoly game, but they was trick dice.

Starting point is 00:05:00 And he used to break the nickel. He said, boy, go get your Monopoly game, and we knew it was trick dice, and he was criminal. So by the time I was 10 years old, I knew how to shoot crooked dice. I know how to pad roll, you know what I'm saying? I know how to deal seconds in cards, you know what I'm saying? I was a car. You know what I knew how to shoot pool. You know, I got some old pictures of me when I was a cat, and I shoot pool when I was seven.

Starting point is 00:05:17 So my father raised us up in the gang. So by time. It's hustlers. It's hustlers. So by time I got, you know, to the county. jail, even though I was 14, I was shy as a butcher's knife. You know what I'm saying? I was sharp as pencil and the person's shopping. So, you know, niggas was like, they was respecting the gang, so they didn't

Starting point is 00:05:32 niggas didn't try to, you know, rape us, they didn't try to beat us, they didn't try to extort us, you know, we made it through that motherfucker, through the grace of the Lord, you know what I mean? And that's the roughest jail at the time in the world. You know, but, you know, we just such young players, you know, and that's when I realized, man, I was special, you know what I mean? And then, you know, I kept going to jail, you know, because, you know, I mean, I was a hustler, you know what I'm I really got broken, because they were breaking on the bitches, right?

Starting point is 00:05:53 But the funny thing that made no shot was Bob Ponder, man. Me and him, the nigger that iced steel, we used to rob jury stores and banks together. This nigga gets his first bitch, right? He had three bitches, so when I come home, I see a little three bitches, I said, say, man, let me have one of those bits. He said, which one you want?

Starting point is 00:06:11 I said, I want the one that's life bright with the pussy candy strike. He said, man, he said, man, and, you know, basically, you know what I said? That's how I got it to the game. Yeah. But I always tell people, I never wanted to be a pimp. I was raised as a hustler. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:06:27 And a gangster. You know what I'm saying? That's all I do. You know what I'm saying? Coming up is gangster and hustling. But what happened was when I finally got in the bitch, I put the hustle and the gangster in the bitch. You know, a gangster won this money.

Starting point is 00:06:38 A nigga lay down and get out. Yeah. Well, that's how I work with my hoarse. Bitch lay down and get on. You know what I mean? I put that ism in the bitch. You know what I'm saying? As much hustles I had to me, the bitch had in her.

Starting point is 00:06:48 As much gangsters I had in me, the bitch had it. And her, you know, that's why, you know, the bitch's got them big bags and shit. That's why, you know, I was the nigga riding around, Kenny Red, all the nigs, know, all of them, everybody, it's National Blue, Jap, all the niggins is. I'm a nigga riding around, you know, with the, you know, the $100,000 Rolex is this shit. You know what I'm saying, the facade. You said, all my shit was custom.

Starting point is 00:07:08 You know, I used to model for Murray. You didn't know that, did you? No, I actually heard about that, man. You was actually in the magazines. Like, everything actually had your name. It's stamped in the shoe. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, I was doing that, man.

Starting point is 00:07:19 independent. Yeah. That's how much money I was spending those shoes, man. Sharp. When I tell you, I was spending $1,000, two or three times a day,

Starting point is 00:07:29 that's to have my shoes made specifically in Italy with my name and two-tone shoes and pimps up, hold down, three-tone. That's the first time they did a three-tone. They did it for Pippie Kinn.

Starting point is 00:07:38 A year later, they're telling me they want me to bottle for them. You know what I'm saying? So we get the deal, you know what I'm saying? They gave me a Michael Jordan deal. I said, I ain't Michael Jordan.

Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm two-three of the P. You know what I'm saying? So you know what I'm feeling like Mac, you know what I'm saying? Mike, no, but I was Mac, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know what I said? That happened. Then everybody else started giving me the NBA, a lot of things don't know, NBA gave me deals.

Starting point is 00:07:58 I used to do shit with the NBA and, man, all these companies, man, they just love the pimping, man, you know what I'm saying? So coming from that lifestyle into the game, it was just my hustle. So every time I got a bitch, I taught the bitch how to hustle. So my bitch isn't sell pussy. They sold pussyality. You know what I'm saying? So my bitches might never turn the date,

Starting point is 00:08:19 but they was breaking the shit out the tricks, you know what I'm saying? And they was like, how you doing it? But I was giving the bitches the game that I had. So every inch of game, my head, the bitch got every inch of game from me. And you know what I'm saying? That's why my holes, if you look at pimps up, hose down,

Starting point is 00:08:32 you see, my bitch's got the minks on and the diving zone. All the motherhood look like they're living on three cans in the 40 hours. Yeah, talk about that shit, man. I don't see the few of those, man. I call her regular hands, man. I'm like, back in fucking with no R-N., man. You fucking with no regular nigger, man. My bitch got to be, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:08:48 Me dressed in Prince. The bitch got to look like she stepped out of Look magazine, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man's got to be so fine. Her mama got to have triplets, man. You know what I said? That's how, hey, that's how my hoes look, man. I ain't fucking no ugly bitch, man.

Starting point is 00:08:59 No disrespect to your ugly bitches, but you can't get me enough money. And then at one time I was all white. I was mighty white. I was all about to fucking hungry. The Caucasian was persuasion, you know what I'm saying? I put a black bitch in my car one day, a sharp in the motherfucker.

Starting point is 00:09:11 Oil I came on. Get this bitch up out of here. You know what I'm saying? It's too dark up in this motherfucker, man. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. He said, why you like the white man? I said, why you like the white bitch?

Starting point is 00:09:23 I said, I got black on my back. I need so white in my motherfucking light. Give me the white bitch, man. Whitney White, man. You know what I'm saying? Give me Whitney White, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but they hate me for that shit.

Starting point is 00:09:35 The black bitch, they be throwing motherfucking darts at me and shit. When they see me and shit, I got dark black bitches and shit, they mad at it. They said, you pro white holes. that Kanye, where he said, white lives matter? I ain't for to say whiteho's life matter, man. I can't go with that Kanye, but I gave you one thing, though. That white money, that white money, way bigger than that black hole money, man.

Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm telling you, man. Because, you know, a white bitch and let your pimp, a black bitch going to make your pimp, man, for real. Right, for real. I think that be the difference. See, that's going to go a lot of these squares heads, man, just even a lot of it that you said. They'd be like, man, this was, I couldn't really understand it.

Starting point is 00:10:07 But, see, people got to understand something, man. I said it before, and I'm going to say it again, because I stand on this. It was a secret society, man. It was a way we spoke. It was a way that we carried ourselves, man. We wanted things like the doctors, the lawyers, the motherfuckers that you've seen, the politicians,

Starting point is 00:10:23 they having it too. You know, why can't we have it? We just figured it out, man. We know what was worth. Hey, Sharp, it's crazy because I said, ho-up will blow up. Yeah. Niggas said, what'd that mean?

Starting point is 00:10:33 Bitch get my money, get the fuck away from me. You know what I mean? I don't need to let the welfare feed it. What'd that mean? If the bitch ain't paying, I ain't playing. These were just metaphors. The nigger thought we was talking slick and rhyming. I said, don't make the mistakes fucking foster flakes.

Starting point is 00:10:46 What is a frosted flake nigga? He's a sugar-coated-ass snigger. You know what I'm saying? It's gaming sugar-cooked. So a lot of things that we say, people think we were rhyming, but that was the way our life was. You know what I'm saying? I tell the bitch, you know what I'm saying? Hey, bitch, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:10:58 Work, work into that pussy hole squirt. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, work hard. You know what I'm just? Work on. So a lot of the things that we say. It's just as a lingo. Yeah, so they don't understand.

Starting point is 00:11:06 the squares never understand. That's why the brother said, don't never put a square, don't never put a square in a circle. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times, man, you know, I didn't fuck with squares. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:11:16 So since 2000 to now, I didn't fuck with more squares than I think it's a billion squares on this motherfucker, about seven billion squares. I didn't fuck with about six billion of them. I'm talking about that's how many squares I didn't fuck with it. How was that transition for you, honestly,

Starting point is 00:11:31 like being where you're at today, you know, and moved. I went from telling them to back up off me like the OJs and spin up off me like the bar case to get fucking with them, you know what I'm saying? And then I found out the squares have more fun. Then when the squares started giving me quarter million dollars for book bills

Starting point is 00:11:46 and the squares started paying me, I said, shit, man, let me go from the ghetto streets to the X streets from the ghetto blocks to the walk street start from the motherfucking sewer to the entrepreneur. You know what I'm saying? Let me split up on these folk, man. You know what I got to get my bank, man. And that's what I did, man.

Starting point is 00:12:00 I backed up off that shit, man. And now I'm fucking with the squares. You know what I'm saying? Me too. And you know Me too, Pippie kid I love you, Tursa, me too Hey, hey, hey, look, Shirep

Starting point is 00:12:10 I tell you guys all the time man, I say, Squares have more fun they say, why you say I said, look at Bill Gates look at Jeff Bezel, look at Oprah Winfey, look at Michael George.

Starting point is 00:12:19 Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey. Squares have more fun. These motherfuckers, man, they live in houses that we're trying to sell a bitch to dream to and the bitch

Starting point is 00:12:25 and the bitch you're walking down and she driving down Ronnell drive. Nickin, you ain't pippin like Oprah, you ain't pippin' like Michael, nigga, you're pivoted, Dicka, hey man, these dicks better get their shit together, man. They better say, man, that's why I formed the hip-hop,

Starting point is 00:12:39 fraternity candy. This is one of my artists, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, I mean, when I used to, you know what I'm saying? You know, trying to turn them out. Now I'm trying to turn them on, man. I went from raising their skirts to raising their thoughts. That's because you elevated your game, though.

Starting point is 00:12:52 But you have to understand that takes time. You have to really know how to elevate your game. You have to want more. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have to be, I always say, man, and people need to know, like, even in the game that we, played, man. Like, you're going to outgrow it if you're smart. If you're getting bigger, that shit is going to start looking small. You know what I'm saying? If you're really getting

Starting point is 00:13:13 bigger, if you're really making other money moves. I love your nephew, but here's the way I look at it, right? Talk to me. When I was young, I used to be in the valley, right? When I used to be in the valley, I used to be looking up at the mountain. Once I climbed the mountain, I started looking at the valley. Everything I used to look at the mountain looked as big. When I got down to the top of the mountain, all that shit looked this small. So, niggas be like, They were like, hey, Nick. Bring it to him. Man, they were like, Ken, woo, woo, woo.

Starting point is 00:13:36 I'd be like, no. You know what I said? Like, you know, niggas be asked me to do certain things, man. I was like, man, listen, man, you heard me on the album, you know what I'm saying when I was in my 30s. I said, man, I'm way removed from my 30s. I'm a lot older than I was, but you look at me as the nigger you seen on that album. So when you read me, you like, yeah, what's up? You know, you wanted me to pop the pimping at you.

Starting point is 00:13:55 But when I started telling you about NFTs and blockchain, I tell you about, you know, NFCs and ASCAP and BMI, you think, oh, oh, oh. You think, oh, the OG that went square. No, man, but I'm trying to tell you, man, that there's more fun up here on the mountain than it is in the valley. Right. I'm on the mountain now. I'm looking down, and that shit, we've been doing all that shit is small, man. I don't know why people think that, and this terminology has been around,

Starting point is 00:14:20 shit since I was a kid, and even before I even knew of the game. Because I used to wear T-shirts of it, never even knew what it meant. There was a T-shirt that was out of saying, Pimpin ain't easy, X-X-X-L for real. And I never knew, man, because I've, I've, I've had to bite. That shit smacked every bit of them words in my face throughout my life. You know what I'm saying? Pimping is not easy, man.

Starting point is 00:14:39 But they always say somebody got to do it. But you can't even control his wife. Can't even control his wife. Try control 16 bitches like I did. But you know what's so cold, though. People always, I have to correct you on that, though, OG, because people always think that, you know, oh, there it is. You're controlling them.

Starting point is 00:14:55 Nah, man, them bids just be wanting to be controlled. It's a difference, man. And so I don't want them to ever get that part misconstrued. It's conscrued. They'll tell you, I just said, Richie Rich, I just said that on the interview yesterday. I told them, I said, yeah, man, I said 90% of the bitches that I had, they all chose up. I got chose with my mouth closed. The bitch said she wanted a choice to be Rose Royce.

Starting point is 00:15:15 You know what I happened to be, I just happened to be the grill. Hey, I've had a, you know, I've learned a lot of game from the pimping coming up, but I learned a lot of game, too, from real holes, you know. And just holes even telling me what they really want when you sit down with them and you talk to them. You know, and you'll hear their stories. They'll tell you like, yeah, you know, a nigger that don't do nothing, but I'm going to run all over him. I need a nigga that know how to make a move.

Starting point is 00:15:41 I need a nigga that know how to control this situation, know how to control the atmosphere. Because if he don't, I'm running all over his ass. And they tell you firsthand, if you really just sit back and listen to him. They don't tell you. No, the best advice of the whole ever gave me. What? She said, listen to what a host say.

Starting point is 00:15:57 See, a ho will tell you what she won't. This is the best advice. And I always did that, man. I always listened to them bitches, man. I always made sure that I got a telegraphical, a photographic memory of what they were saying. And if they said they like Louis, if they said they like Gucci or whatever,

Starting point is 00:16:12 you know what I'm saying? When their birthdays came around, that's what I bought them. You know what I'm saying? If they said they want this kind of car, if they said, man, daddy, woo, woo, can we get this kind of car? You know what I feel you on that, but you know what I always listen to?

Starting point is 00:16:23 What she didn't want. Right. And that didn't want might not include me. You dig what I'm saying? I had to really listen. I had to, like, I'm listening to you, right? And I'm like, yeah, that shit's cool. And it does go like that, right?

Starting point is 00:16:37 But I listen to what the bitch don't want. And when I'm listening to what she don't want, I know that that don't want might not include myself. But you know why don't? So I might need to remove myself out of the equation, man. I'm a ninja and I'm gone. Sharp, but you know why, though? I'm gone.

Starting point is 00:16:51 She'll have seen me no more. I'm vanished. But Sharp, that's good because that's what Pimpin does. Pippin knows what they do, and they don't want. Yeah, man. Pimman is their full skills. Just the way I pimp myself into a situation, I know how to pimp myself out. You dig what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:17:07 And if that's what it's got to be, the debit, that's what it's going to be. You know what I'm talking to. Yeah. But you know what, but you know what, if you go through the history books and you ask the pimps about Kim and every bitch I had, I got four, five years out of each bitch, you know what I'm saying? That's how good my pimping was because I knew what they won't and what they didn't. Well, Ken, let's be real. Let's be real, church.

Starting point is 00:17:30 It's not like it is in 2020. Back then, when a bitch, let's tell the truth now. When the bitch chose back then, she stayed. Bitsches didn't just play choosy-suzy, you know what I mean? Unless a Nick died or something like that. And then she might have went and made a move. But man, when bitches did choose back in the day, man, like bitches did stay with it. Maybe 5, 10 years, 15 years.

Starting point is 00:17:52 You know, it was just over the years the time span has gotten shorter. The game change. Hell, marriages have gotten shorter. Let's really think about it. Who you see walking around, man. That's married to 40 50 years anymore. You don't really see that shit no more, so we're going to keep that shit of bad. You know, I mean, the times have changed with all that shit, just within relationship, period, situation.

Starting point is 00:18:13 Relationship, relationship, shit, shit. Doesn't fucking matter what it is. Sink ship, it don't matter. What it is, is now today is, man, shit's starting to fall more minute. It's getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. Hell, man, people eating shit out of microwaves. Let's really think about it. Nobody's taking the time for anything anymore.

Starting point is 00:18:30 Not even to cook. But the last bitch I had that I got off the track, the bitch started Crip Walker. I said it's time for me to get this fucking about the game. I said, It's getting ugly. I said, oh, shit. Let me get away with this bitch, man.

Starting point is 00:18:46 Bitch, I called my cousins on you. I said, okay, bitch, I'm out of here, bitch. And I ain't seen the bitch since I ain't got a picture of the whole, man. Hey, man. Listen, man, I ain't pimps so long, man. Hey, I got my mom. King Tuck dust on me. I got mummy dust on me.

Starting point is 00:19:00 Wipe this shit. I'm retired, man. But you know, the mind frame is still, it's not rusty. I'm there. And I do, and I think what it is is now I understand it better than I ever understood it. Because I got to see both sides of the coin now of what people really do. I don't even get into anything. This my new bitch right here, man.

Starting point is 00:19:19 This bitch don't argue. She don't fight. She ain't ever chose up. Oh, yeah, this is pedology, man. This is the classic. Every nigga in the penitentiary than read this motherfucker. I guarantee you. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:19:28 me, man, and you know, they gave me a quarter million dollars to write this book, and I own 100% of the audio. So when I'm gone out this way, my son's Supreme and his son, my grandbaby Supreme, they'd be still receiving royalties for this book. That's pimping, man. I talk about this book. I say, man, you know, in every situation, there's a pimping a hole. The object is to be the pimp in the situation.

Starting point is 00:19:48 I don't give a fuck what it is. You just want to be the one that's pimping. So when you go in there and you talk to companies like this CBS and, you know, you go in there and you can get this big bang from a man, that's the game, man. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I tell my artists all the time, man, that the hip-hop fraternity, man, listen, man, whenever you go in the booth, man, you're an entrepreneur. You know what I'm saying? That's all pimps is. We're entrepreneurs. You know what I'm saying? This is what I'm preneur. And you know what I'm saying? I'm pernour in this book. You know what I'm saying? I just, I just put out of this book. I just put out of And then I just put out ice tea book. How many niggas can say that iced tea signed to him?

Starting point is 00:20:18 Pippie Kian can. How many can say that Bousie signed to him? Pippin Kins can. So you know, I go in there. I get these niggas six figures, big old, you know, million dollars worth of deals, man. Let's back up. What's your relationships with Bousie?

Starting point is 00:20:31 Well, Bousie, I met him, my sons and all these companies. Like, Dad, this dude named Bousie rapping about you. He used to be rapping about me on all these songs and shit. And I'm going to go to Milwaukee like Pippie Ken. And I was like, you. You know, who the fuck is this nigga? You know what I'm saying? Then me and Pem C get cool.

Starting point is 00:20:47 So I'm in the motherfucker studio with PemC, and I see this little nigga named Boosie. So the thing was my kids had already told me that he was rapping about me. You know what I'm saying? Just I guess because of the kids was telling you. My children, yeah, my children. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:21:00 They robbed, you know, close to Bousie age. So, you know. I fuck what you made. I like how you did. Hey, but you just an old school. You went the shits, man. That's why. It's natural.

Starting point is 00:21:15 So Boosie, anyway, you understand? Before he went to penitentiary, right? I'm in Bat Ridge at the casino. I forget the name of it. I went 20 bands. I said, damn. I said, nigga, Boosey, you know what I'm saying? Let me call that, niggas. I called him. He came to him to his mansion, and we did our first

Starting point is 00:21:31 song together. And ever since then, man, we've been cool. The nigga came to Milwaukee, man. It was five below zero. I gave the nigga a mink coat. I went to my trunk, gave him a mean coat. He went in his pocket. He gave me a wide 100, man. Probably about 4,000. He didn't even have to give it to him. So, you know what I mean? We've been cool.

Starting point is 00:21:45 And then, so, you know, me and my partner, Steve, you know, we helped them, you know, with the liquor deal. We helped them with the potato chip deal. So we help niggas get potatoeship deals, cologne deals. We do book deals. So what I do is I teach these young niggas how to pump the corporation. It's called equity partnerships, you know, how to get partnerships, how to get interest in these companies.

Starting point is 00:22:04 And then as you begin to develop and build these companies, as you're building this sharp tank, you know what I'm saying? And it begins to scale, become bigger, then they'll be able to get money from shit that they helped create and helped build. So you know what I that's what we did with Boussey. You know what I'm saying me and you know we got the relationships with corporate America because a lot of people don't know when I was in the penitentiary. I had a hundred and twenty two college credit so I'm a real avid reader I read a lot so you know I'm saying me you know I got a lot of wisdom and knowledge. What's your

Starting point is 00:22:30 favorite genre of book? Mine's Westerns I started off. I like a lot of West. Well I like you know 40 laws of power yes back the belly the art of war you know I'm a think that's why I wrote the book to Art of Human Chess because you know my My daddy taught me, Fennas, like one of the things my daddy used to do, you're going to get a kick out of this. He used to take me to the pool hall with him, and we'd get to the pool hall, and my daddy would lose money. And he would watch me. He said, watch this, son.

Starting point is 00:22:54 He'd lose, like, $4,500. Then my father, he had this thing. We called Bet Biggin' and Pay Little. So he'd put, like, a bunch of singles on top, but under the bottom he had done, but $100 bills, maybe $2,000 or $3,000. So he'd bet the guy that he beat him. The guy already beat the father that pops up, end up winning all the money. So my father told me the gang, con, bait and switch. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:23:14 So I learned that at an early age, but I apply that to corporate. I applied it to everything. You got to be a thinker. You've got to be thinking 10 steps ahead of the game, Sharp. You know what I'm saying? It's got to be a reason why you're doing this show. Hopefully that this leads to other things for you. And that's how, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:23:30 I perceive life, and that's how, you know, there's Bousie. Because everybody was talking about Boosie book and Icee Book, but nobody was talking about the hip-hop fraternity. You know what I'm saying? Nobody would talk about how we would be on drink champs and how we'd be on Sharp and promoting the book and that would give me an opportunity to promote other shit that I got going on.

Starting point is 00:23:45 It's just about Boosie. It's about the moves that you make it with Boosie. So now, you understand me, here we is. We got the biggest organization in the world, the hip-hop fraternity, and we got 3,000 members, and we've got a chapter here. We've got 14 states, and it's coming from a nigga, they say, Pippin.

Starting point is 00:24:00 I told them at the last, and I said, when you say, Pippen can? That shit down then, church for size real quick, and let them know, man, how far it took their mind from the game. game though, right, but do you suck them back in? Oh, but remember I was a PIPP though, right? That's how you look at me, but damn, you had probably everybody

Starting point is 00:24:15 motherfucker's soul for that shit, like, whoa, okay. You know, let me invest. I say, say, Pippincan, comma, author of the Pippecology and the 40-a-Log, Pippecan, comma, literary agent, Pippecan, comma, artist, Pippecan, comma, you know what I'm saying? Hip-Hop-A-Petka-Comber father, Pippecan, comma, my son is on that show. My son live right here with you, All-American.

Starting point is 00:24:38 That's my son, number 14. You know what they? expect of you honestly to not to not have a life I'm saying supposed to have lives not supposed to have other visions not supposed to have other dreams

Starting point is 00:24:51 you're a low life because the niggas told we're going to pimp a die they look at us like man you know you're a low life you don't really work for yours you ain't do nothing man you took from that girl or you human traffic that girl no man that's something that they made up just to give more niggins years I'm gonna tell the game

Starting point is 00:25:07 they put that shit and that little jacket on there and I ain't never said this, but I'm going to drop this jewel. They put that on there because they know it's a lot of black men that play in that game and it's just an easier way to throw your ass away for some more years. It's easy. Oh, you're playing in that? We ain't even really doing nothing. Man, they're giving niggas that's in the game

Starting point is 00:25:24 fucking serial killer years. They letting that nigga out before you. Because ain't nobody going to stand up for a kid. I'm sad. I mean, they letting you, man, come on. They letting that man out before you. This man, child molester. He's all this. You get this nigga three years and he only got to register as a sex offender.

Starting point is 00:25:40 and be on paperwork for folk. Like, come on, homie. That's just weird to me. I don't understand it. It's backwards, but I do get it. It's just another way to classify you to give your ass some more fucking years. It's all it is. It's just another way.

Starting point is 00:25:54 They already don't legalize the weed. You know what I'm saying? Look how fucking Biden just had to fucking, he had just think past. I think it was something that just got past that anybody that was ever convicted with a felony for like marijuana or anything like that is being dismissed. They just passed that. Think about how many niggins done sat in jail. Sharp, I talked about it in the book I sold you, The Art of Human Chest.

Starting point is 00:26:15 I said America is 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's incarceration. Eligible black men is 7% eligible gold to the pension. Only 7% of eligible go to the pensionation, but we comprise 50% of the corporation, 51% of it, you know what I'm saying it's a company called CCA, Correctional Corporation of America, and what they do is they privatize prisons. So it's actually an African-American man or Latino or poor white is worth more money incarcerated than they is on the streets. But the irony of this is that they make more money, they get more money off them in prison. They just give them a job and McDonald's and just pay McDonald's to hire them.

Starting point is 00:26:54 You know what I'm saying? But the reason why they don't do that is because they get long-term slavery. They say slavery is boggues and except for one duty commits a crime. So the 14th Amendment gives them the right to institute slavery legally. So a lot of these brothers you see they legally slaves. It says slave is 13th Amendment. Slavit by itself for one, duly commits a crime. That means that it's abolished only until you commit a crime.

Starting point is 00:27:16 And then there's 5,000 statutes on the statute. So did you know if you was in Walmart and you open the door, you hit a car and you walk away from the scene? That's called leaving the scene of a crime. I feel like it's a, and I agree. But I feel, you're right. But I feel like it's just another way of conservatorship. You know?

Starting point is 00:27:33 You know what conservatorship is, right? Kool-A, this shit tastes like Kool-A. Yeah, I know. It's good, isn't it? Hey, hey, I'll be fucking up. Keep on drinking it. Yeah. Keep on drinking it.

Starting point is 00:27:41 Church. You know? Yeah, I'll put it. Hey, listen, they say don't let another person pour your troubles for you, but I'm a poem for you today. Oh, my troubles, man. I'm going to pay them. Hey, I ain't never been no mackaholic, but I've been a mackaholic, but I mean, yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:27:54 I went hard on the bitch, man. Now, yes, I feel hard on the DVDs. But it's, I feel like this, right? And we're going to get to the DVDs, but I like where we're at in the conversation. You know, you're saying slavery, modern day slavery, that's just another term for it, right? There's a lot of words for it. I feel like it's also another way of conservatorship, taking somebody's rights completely away from them. They're not competent enough to handle their own situations.

Starting point is 00:28:20 And people start to believe that, and I feel like it leans more towards a lot of black and brown people because when people come out, you ever notice they don't talk about, and I'm not trying to put race in matter here. But I always notice our race is, man, that be more institutionalized and be more ready to commit something and go back because that's all they know. It's like they get their minds trained for it. They train our minds for it. We're like, nigga, even when we let you out,

Starting point is 00:28:45 your dumb ass going to want to come back. But I got some game for them, man. You know, why they really weren't able to get me, man? Every time, you know what I'm saying, I send the bitch up in the club, right? I told the bitch, I said, bitch don't sell no pussy. And bitch, you know what I'm saying? You know, work the VIP room.

Starting point is 00:29:00 So my bitches were going to VIP room and they would order chicken. And then when they order chicken, the trick, you know what I'm saying? He had a gratuity. The bitches write a thousand dollar gratuity. So I was getting 10 and 15,000 a day in Pimpsen even though. They were like, ah, and the nigga, he ain't on the carpet, you know what I'm saying? But I was getting money. And so I had my bitches with a great pussy out of me.

Starting point is 00:29:19 So my bishops would be like, oh, we're going to fuck. We're going to fuck. I'm a suck you did. And the motherfucker's security guard is right there. So the bitch is like, you know, oh, they'll go to security. They're going to security. He's coming. So she's playing cat and mouse with this trick.

Starting point is 00:29:30 But every time she ordered some soda or some wins, this bitch's putting a thousand dollars. She's putting $500. She never put the same because then they give you a charge back. So we was running it up like that. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I was able to beat the case. Even if the feds would have came at me, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:29:43 My bitch didn't sell pussy. You know what I'm saying? They sold pussyality. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Man, it's, you know, I mean, it's okay to have flat back because I understand, London. This bitch is going to sell that pussy, man.

Starting point is 00:29:55 The bitch going to get on the track. But we did all that. I did it, man. I did it. I worked the track, man. That's why I got famous there. But I know one thing, man. Hey, man, you know, a lot of bitches came home, cut up, man.

Starting point is 00:30:05 A lot of bitches called cases, man. I blew a lot of bitches to the blade. You know what I'm saying? And I wouldn't get no real money because, you know what I'm studying? I'm studying. I'm studying robbing Peter Pay Paul. I'm paying bells and shit. So I had to come up with some good game for me, not for the pimper, for me to keep my shit.

Starting point is 00:30:20 You know, a lot of things said, I went platinum off the pussy, man. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? So my bitch is selling pussyality And they're breaking tricks And they know man

Starting point is 00:30:29 They can't man You know what I said I said nigga when the motherfucking trick Ain't got no more money Or the car max out Tell the bitch to take them to the casino My bitch is taking tricks to the casino And you know

Starting point is 00:30:39 The casino can eat anything If you give them 15% So these bitches getting 10 15,000 out of casinos You know what I'm talking about The bitch The bitch talking about Daddy

Starting point is 00:30:48 He ain't got no more money Bitch take them to Walmart Bitch take them to Walmart Bigger take them to the motherfucking target Take them to the motherfucking Zelle jeweler bitch We sell the merchandise I said, if you get a $1,000 ring, bitch,

Starting point is 00:30:58 or $10,000 earring, bitch, that I go sell it for $1,000 at the Ponshot, bitch, that's a $1,000 trap. I said, bitch, run the trick up. And that's what these niggas don't know how to do. That's why they go in the jail. You know what I'm sitting outside, waiting outside the hotel with the bitch.

Starting point is 00:31:12 Nicky, you and the bitch is working. Nick, you know what I said, I sit, bitch is so automatic, man. I have bitches I ain't seen for two or three months, man. You know what I said, bitch is calling me. I'm mashing on the telephone. You know what I'm saying? Get my, me and ATETT and a,

Starting point is 00:31:24 and a little. Let me bed, we had plenty of fun together, man. You know what I said? I had two bitches. I never, I seen one of them. They was over in Canada. There's no bullshit. I got a lot of pimps that fairfired. I ain't even touched them, bishops and fairfied. I hadn't even touched them, bishops. Man, had them for a year. One was the Italian bishops, other was a Cuban bitch. They over in Canada. The bids was breaking the shit out of their self. Never touched the bitch. Everything was over the phone. Everything was over the phone.

Starting point is 00:31:46 Give me them a bitch's game on the phone. One bitch came over to Seattle. She came across the border. I met her. I met the bitch. I thought the bitch is the police. She was looking too proper. I said, shit. Let me get the fuck away with this bitch. But you know what I'm saying? You know, that's just how good the game is, man. If a nigga ain't got no game like, this is how niggas is. Niggas say, they see Sharp.

Starting point is 00:32:05 They come and they watch Sharp Tank, and they see you popping it. And they say, yeah, I'll go try that. You know what I mean? Then they try that. Then the bitch cuss them out. Or the bitch-ass, nigga. Let me see what's Sharp going to do, sharp? What was Sharp doing that situation?

Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, Sharp said, you know what I said, Woo-woo. So they go and they try that. Then when Sharp, you know, if you take a break and you go out of town, you go to the Bahamas, so the niggas, like, they're looking for the game, like they're looking for cigarette. Hey, man, anybody see my phone? You know, that nigga loses cell phone.

Starting point is 00:32:31 You go crazy. For real. That's not what, see, they peep gang. These niggas ain't got no real game. They're not sitting game. No, they peep game. So this is what I'm saying. So, so, so, so shock, shock, if ain't no game to peeve, what's happening?

Starting point is 00:32:47 If ain't no game, they ain't got no game. They don't got nothing to give. So they miss Pimpickin'in. Them niggas miss me. You know what I miss me going up and down the track. Busting, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, yeah, bitch, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, and the clothes I wore and the shoes I wear and the way I wear it.

Starting point is 00:33:02 Man, the bigs you know what Amani and Fisci was. The niggas was wearing curtains and shit. They were going and getting curtains and shit and making suits out of them. Man, I was wearing Amani, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $100,000. Jacob sold me. They said, I showed these niggas the class. You know, Jap, I ain't going to say, Jap, I'm going to say, Jap was a classy too, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:33:19 My nigga, you know, my nigga, you know, Pimp, Sam, you know, You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying. I ain't gonna say. But you know, a lot of niggas, you know what I'm saying? You know, hey, you're gonna say that.

Starting point is 00:33:28 But that was my little homies, right? You know what I'm saying? But those niggas know, any nigger from the mill, know that I turned the town from Milwaukee to pee walking. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It ain't a motherfucker in the world that can say Milwaukee. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:33:42 Because all of them little niggas, you know what I'm saying? We ain't had no Mexicans. We ain't had no motherfucking dope. We ain't had no planes and no boats. All we had was pimping. You know what I'm saying? So they had the pimper's way out of the time. And that's what we did, man.

Starting point is 00:33:55 And if you look at all the biggest, greatest pimps, some of them came from the mill. You know what I mean? You know, West Coast, y'all niggins some pimping motherfuckers, too. You know what I'm saying? A Fillmore Slim, you know, Gorge's J, Sharp, you know, Kenny Red, you know what I'm saying? Virgil.

Starting point is 00:34:11 You know what I said? Oh, I love Virgil. Yeah, man. Every time he sees me, he'd get happy. I can name a bunch of the young ones that's active, but I don't want to even put their name out there, you know, because he's like, man, White Pippey mentioned my name.

Starting point is 00:34:22 But y'all know who y'all is, man. But you know, like I said, man, you know, do I miss the game? No, because I'm winning, man. My nigga, I'm winning. I got some of the greatest. Richie Rich got five million followers, man. This is my artist, man. This is my president of my company.

Starting point is 00:34:39 Candy, she got 130. My son's Supreme, he got 20,000. Cash got a bunch of them. You know, PBE Pluto, man, a million followers. These niggas could have went anywhere. She couldn't wear anywhere, but they chose to fuck with me because I know I'm a good nigga, man, I fed niggas. You know what I said for free?

Starting point is 00:34:55 I let niggas perform for free. I let niggas do all that shit in my motherfuckuckuckin studio in Atlanta. You remember I was telling you about it? That's what I was talking about. It went that big when I first was talking to you about it. But those niggas now, they didn't, you know, they became big. You know, Richie, Rich. Everybody trying to sign him.

Starting point is 00:35:14 Everybody trying to sign him. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to sign you, nigg. So you must not be doing enough. You must not be doing enough. Do better. Do better. I'll let you know what it happens, church.

Starting point is 00:35:29 I'll say something to you. It's going to be soon, man. I'll tell you, man. Hey, man, we're going to come to this motherfucker like the big bad wolf. We're going to hug. Hey, I hope so. And you know what? I hope all these words.

Starting point is 00:35:42 I hope they really stand for something. You know what? It always starts somewhere. It always starts somewhere. And then fucking three years. years from now, y'all, you motherfuckers just really get on. And then, yeah, I got y'all up in here sitting like the new cash money. So yeah, it's, I can understand things do happen.

Starting point is 00:35:58 It does. But y'all gonna have to prove something to me now. I ain't talk about you, people, kid, because me and you, we talk on another level, man. But for the youngsters, that's really moving in the game. And that's what y'all say y'all doing just even for the music. Man, y'all go out to show me something, church. Tudda niggas always saying they into the music, man. That's like, they're saying they end in the Pippinpin.

Starting point is 00:36:14 Because we made, we're going to put that shit to the test. Why don't they get put to the test for the rap? for the artist, nigga. We used to, man, y'all niggas gonna never cut cloth over here. I'm telling you, you would have never cut cloth over here. Like, yeah, I'm trying, nigga, you get a metal, nigga, E for effort.

Starting point is 00:36:28 Nah, nigga ain't none of that shit. You know what I should do, shot? When them do, them do you come up, they got the ism and they had the ism and I said, come on, man, ride with me, right? While I ride with them, I got the bitch sweating their bitch, right? Yeah, right. And I'm taking those nicks around.

Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm showing them any day next day, you know. Take this fine and go get some dope. Hey, man, get the phone call, man. Take this fire and go get some dog. Some of them come with the dope. Some of them got a sack bigger than Santa Claus, man. Yeah. Like that much dope, you know what I?

Starting point is 00:36:54 Nick, selling dope like a motherfucker. Let's go out of the motherfucker. Bazi and the motherfucker of a Ferrari telling me about it's on the bitch, digger. No. That shit smelled like cocaine. That shit smelled like cocaine, my nigga. Get the fuck out of here with that shit, nigga.

Starting point is 00:37:10 Hey, nobody's going for that shit, nigga. I'm IG, nigga. We just didn't do that. And I'm not going, me. I'm not going, I'm pimping, I and G. I love these conversations because it just gets to show like the class or just the boost of morale one had to hold. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:37:32 Even in himself, even when the next wasn't believing in your church, then you have to always believe in yourself. Because there's a lot of times, man, where the bitch want to say, hey, man, she want to go left and you about to go right, and there's no other way. I get a bitch to saying his name, man. If she got a stairwell. The bitch can leave, man.

Starting point is 00:37:46 If the bitch, man, motherhead the bitch, motherfucker the bitch, man. I always looked at it like this. Yeah, you can go, bitch. Yeah, bitch. Put your go-go boots on. Get the fuck out of here, hold. You look better going than you did coming, bitch. That's how I used to tell them.

Starting point is 00:37:57 For my ones in the back. My ones in the back. I always looked at it like this to follow up with what I just said. If the bitch grabbing the stand, you know what I said, you want to go left. You want to go right. That's like y'all being in the car together. The bitch wanted, she going to put her hand on the steering wheel. She's going to pull left.

Starting point is 00:38:13 You're going to pull right. You're going to pull right. bound to crash. Yeah. Get out the car before that, man, before the turn come up. Before you have to hit that signal. Yeah. You did?

Starting point is 00:38:22 You had to hit that signal, man. Shut. Get out the car. Get out the car. Because we ain't crashing today, bitch. I almost died on the plane today, man. They already knew, man. There was a real one on there, man.

Starting point is 00:38:33 Get us off the changes. Yeah, man. The motherfucker car fire. Today? Today? Today. Oh, man. So this interview almost didn't happen?

Starting point is 00:38:40 Man, I don't know what the fuck. I hope. I don't want to say that. I'm going to put plays. God, you know. Yeah, I don't want to say that, but you know. God got us, man. Yeah, God got us, man, for sure.

Starting point is 00:38:50 Man, I didn't want to hear that, man. See, now that's telling me. You know, because think about this, right? Because the pilot, even though it was like a 40-minute flight from where I was flying from, right? The pilot could have not gave a fuck this morning. He could have been overlooking something. He could have been doing anything and been like, man, it's only 40 minutes.

Starting point is 00:39:05 Let's just get us there. It's really nothing. This man, you know, shout out to that pilot, man, because he really did take his time. Like, no, I don't feel comfortable. He was like, man, something blew out with it. He said, And I don't feel comfortable taking this, making this life.

Starting point is 00:39:17 I'd have jumped out that motherfucker window. Y'all was like, Pimp down, Pimp down. I don't know that motherfucker. I ain't going to that shit, my digger. I ain't going over that shit, my digger. I'm out of that. I'm out of that. Fire shit.

Starting point is 00:39:31 Diggins, I'll have kicked out of that motherfucker window with it. Pound, man. I'd be like that motherfucker. Y'all ain't been to kill a Pimpin, man. And that way Pippin don't die. We multiply you. Do you feel like with your transition, you know, and just know another me and gentleman of leisure from the game.

Starting point is 00:39:49 Do you feel like it stayed, do you feel like they still respect you? You know what I'm saying? It's respected, not infected. You know, they still respect you, you know what I'm saying? Even though you've took in your turn. Well, you know, I've learned in Life Sharp that, you know, what you go through, you grow through, you know what I'm saying? And I get this analogy oftentimes, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:40:08 The eagle, right, it's the most profound of the human birds, right? The eagle, you know, when it's spread it, spread it between nine feet, it's soared through the air. You know what I'm saying? When the eagle, you know what to do, it goes up because he knows flying too low. Chickies, you know what I'm saying, they? You know what I'm saying? Listen, listen, listen, listen, though. When chickens see something on the ground, now with sit, no, no, no, no, no, when chickens see food on the ground, they eat all that shit.

Starting point is 00:40:41 They call them scavengers. The eagle ain't fucking with that shit. That's why you never see an eagle and a chicken making love. Because when the eagle make love, it make love in the air and it's sores. I ain't got nothing against the chicken. I ain't got nothing against the day, didn't. I ain't got nothing against the chicken.

Starting point is 00:40:58 But Eagles do not fuck with chicken. But you know the eagle problem is, this is the eagle problem, sharp. This is a good game. When the eagle see, it's preyed, it's a hundred miles away, and it zoom on it, and it, strong as you.

Starting point is 00:41:11 the motherfucker, then he pulled it to his chest so you know he got it. The chest let him know he got it. When he get a weasel, the weasel eat his chest up. And he eat it until he gets into his heart. So he ascends 10,000 feet and descend 10,000 feet to his death. That's the problem.

Starting point is 00:41:27 You know, you got to be sharp. You can't let the motherfucking eagles. You can't be like the eagle. You can't hold those wreaths. You got to let the weasel-ass niggas out your life. You know what I'm saying? When you got a 10-pound bookpack on your back, homie, you don't even know that motherfuckerack on your back. You did what I'm saying? You're carrying that motherfucker.

Starting point is 00:41:42 You become immune to that motherfucker, that dead weight. But once you get that shit up off, you're like, behind my leash you can float like a butterfly, pal-pah, pah, pah, psalm, you understand me? So I'm an eagle. So every time I see the motherfucking pigeons, I fly away. I'm flying too low.

Starting point is 00:41:58 Eagles, when they see the storm, they don't run from the storm, they go into the storm so they can prepare them high into the sky. I tell Richie Richie Rich all the time, say, man, we're flying 30,000 feet. These niggas on the ground. So you understand me? A lot of times, man, you know, they just don't get it.

Starting point is 00:42:11 me? I said, everything ain't for everybody. Where there's the least appearance of evil, expect the greatest of mother danger. That's why they said, I said, I said, man, you know what I'm saying? It's different levels. If I'm here, if I'm flying like an eagle, this nigga's a pigeon. And I said, me, why would I be bothered with these pigeons? You know what I'm saying? These peons.

Starting point is 00:42:27 It's got to make you one at that point, right? Well, yeah, yeah, well, you know, it's got to make you one at that point. That's what you're doing. Somebody said, if you hang around 10 broke muffles, he's going to be the 11. Yeah. You know, said, as a man, think of so is he. Whatever your mind believe it could see, it can achieve,

Starting point is 00:42:40 Never believe your dogs and never doubt your beliefs. So, you know what I'm saying? My thing is, you know what I'm saying? If everybody going this way, Ken is going to go this way. And guess what? It always happened. You remember when I was selling DVDs,

Starting point is 00:42:51 I was a long soldier, and everybody was like, Pip and Kenon and fell off. Everybody's selling DVDs now. Everybody got a record label. Everybody got a podcast. Everybody doing something that they said we wouldn't do.

Starting point is 00:43:02 They said it was all on the hole. Now they don't just the hoars on everything you can get your hands on. So I was the one, you know, I'm saying that I believe that my first 30 years was legacy and my next 30 years going to be dynasty. I'm trying to leave something for that young man Supreme up there. I'm trying to lead

Starting point is 00:43:16 him and his kids some generational wealth. So you know what I'm saying? Do you think about the masses when you're thinking about leaving something for your kids? No. I bet you Donald Trump ain't thinking about that shit. Bill Gateson, think about that shit. They studied trying to be inventive. They try to be creative. So that's what I do.

Starting point is 00:43:32 I try to set up. Now, these two books, I get a percentage of these for the rest of my life. When I die, who the money go to? Supreme. So you understand what I'm saying? It's like, you know, you got to think progressive. You can't be a follower. You can't think what these niggas thinking.

Starting point is 00:43:47 You know, you know, the same thing. You just said when the opening, I won a Pemberty year, international Pimilar, local Pover of the Year. No, I never won any of that shit. I mean, well, okay. You know, whatever. Whatever. Somebody gave you something that you just happened to be around.

Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah. I won that shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. They were giving me that shit. Genuinely, and I know you that. So, niggas say, Ken, why did you? walk away. I said, Nick, if you can walk away, you can get away.

Starting point is 00:44:13 Y'all want me to stay in there and say, ah, yeah, I was the pimperous motherfucker in the world with 30 years in the fans. Nick, when the fans change that game, I'm changing my game, look. When they change their game, I'm changing my, man. And that's why you catch yourself right here with me right here right now, church.

Starting point is 00:44:28 Free. Right here with you, free. I let that backpack go like you was talking about church. I don't feel that shit no more. Hey, but guess what shot? Let me say this to you. Because you know the game. A lot of people might understand what I'm saying. When you was out there doing your thing.

Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. You know what I'm saying me? Yeah. I just say me because I want to put you in no shit. When I was out there doing that my thing, I was a pimping motherfucker. Yeah. If I wasn't doing my thing, I was a no pimping motherfucker. So, niggas talked about me regardless.

Starting point is 00:44:56 When I was 15 deep, I went pimping. I had a bag, that nigga, you know, he's selling dope. You know what I fell off and, you know, I got down to one hole, close to no hole. You know what I'm saying? The broke hole was a no-no. You got a goat. So you understand me?

Starting point is 00:45:10 When I got fucked up Nix was talking about me So when I'm fucked up They talk about what I'm doing good They talk about me So my thing is Hey man do you I told Nick's a man

Starting point is 00:45:18 How you live I said just me and my hoes man It's just me and a bunch of bitches In my world I don't see none of you knickers I don't you know I mean anyone my holes will tell you They can't mention another pimp

Starting point is 00:45:28 bitch you gotta choose a pimp You can't miss you can't miss To my house You know what I gave every bitch The phone number Get that nigga my number Bits So you can call me

Starting point is 00:45:37 Let me let me know That you're just that you You got some new rules and the nigger that blew my foods. And I'm gonna break the plate on your ass, bitch. Yeah, you ain't gonna eat here no more. You know what I? Hey, and I'm seeing. I'm saying. I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm gonna break the plate on the bitch. I'm gonna break the plate on the bitch. Now the bitch don't eat anymore. Bam. The whole thing, Daddy, why are you breaking that plate? You don't eat here no more. And let me show you, this is the last day I'll give you niggins some game. See, Shia got me tipsy.

Starting point is 00:46:02 So I'm gonna talk to shit, right? Check this out, nigga. Let me tell you, motherfucker's son. Nigga, buy real estate. nigga, you know what I'm saying? If you break in the bitch, nigga, buy a property and name the property out to the bitch!

Starting point is 00:46:14 So if the bitch named Cheryl buy a house and call the house Cheryl. Guess what? That house gonna pay you way after Cheryl gone. Nick, I'm still living out from bitches that they're left. Them house name after them bitches, man. Hey, I'm like 16 right now with six crills.

Starting point is 00:46:29 The bitch is still paying, man. And they're gone, man. That bitch is gone like the wind, man. So you know what I said me? Nick, it's turn them whole ears and the divin' in, nigga. has some after pimping in your life, nigga. Y'all go to after. You know what you go watch after dark

Starting point is 00:46:41 Then you have some after pimping, nigger. What you're gonna do after pimping? You know what I'm saying? You're gonna start? You're waiting on the bitch? You know what I'm saying? Most you think is for jigs that's 60 years old. Nick, I got a jug for you.

Starting point is 00:46:51 You get a motherfucker job at McDonald's, nigga, and sell two I'll be petty special saw letters on the Piscency Bar. That's the Big Mac, nigga. And call yourself Big Mac McDonald's, motherfucker. Ain't got no jug for you, nigga. Don't ask me for the money no more.

Starting point is 00:47:05 I'm hanging up on you, nigg. Hey, man, nigga. Hung up on that bitch. Hey, hey, Supreme, this nigga gave me this shit. What is this shit? Hey, he hung up on that nigga like he hung up on that bitch. You dig what I'm saying? Man, what a girl, nigga.

Starting point is 00:47:23 Hey, man, shout out to my nigga Pimp and Sam. Shout out to my nigga, Big Lani. Shout out to my nigga, you know what I'm saying? Pimp, Snoopy, May get out of Penitentiary. You know, shout out to all of Milwaukee Grace. My nigga, Sonny Page, Rob, Robinson, JD. You know what I'm saying? The grit family, the famous.

Starting point is 00:47:41 You know, it's a lot of good pimps coming out of Milwaukee, man. You know what I'm saying? And that's one thing I can say, a nigga from Milwaukee never asked me for a job. I don't know if it's a Milwaukee prize shit, man. But, man, niggas all over the world to ask me for a judge. Man, I'm not the bitch, man. Don't ask me for the judge, man. You say you pimping, man.

Starting point is 00:47:59 What pimp on the bitch, man? You're asking me so damn good, nigga asked me. Man, these niggas, hey, but you know what's so cold shop? I'm like, what's up, Pippin? I'm like, what's up, man? Hey, man, check this out, man. You know what I'm saying? My starter went out, man.

Starting point is 00:48:15 You know what I'm saying? Me, man, I got a check coming, man. But, you know, right now I can't cash you, motherfucker. Hey, man, why don't you send a Pimp? You know, send me $200 to get a starter, right? Yeah. I'm like, all right, man. I'm going to see you, 200.

Starting point is 00:48:26 Say, 200. Okay, I ain't got to worry about this nigga anymore. Call me back. He got another drag from it. At some point, man, you got to understand, man. You got to understand, man. You're talking to a nigger man that used to sell game just like you.

Starting point is 00:48:38 I'm selling, but I'm not going to keep on buying me, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Quit calling me, asking me for a motherfucker dude. But that's real shit, though. But that's real shit, though, man, for real. Because it wasn't like you didn't help him, but you see something that could be repetitive, see what he was supposed to do was if he was a real one

Starting point is 00:48:53 and really down about his game, he was supposed to get two from you and bring back foe. Like here, Church, I appreciate you, man, for fucking with me. So that way, when he do call you again, you remember that way. He did, you know, look out for me. you know he made my little shit double just here man just some extras on top of it that's how you keep your credit good you know what I'm saying that's how you keep your shit good so when you

Starting point is 00:49:12 come back I'm gonna give you a flowers though I'm gonna give you a flower though sharp man you know I'm sorry of you man I'm really proud of you man I really you really make me feel proud to be a part of this thing of ours you know what I appreciate I appreciate you and I like I like the way you chop that one young nigga of my son yeah that that's that digger yeah yeah yeah you yeah you chop that nigga you know you chopped that nigga up you know man and that's what made that's the first time i watch your show and i've been watching every since man he didn't know he didn't know where listen man he didn't know who he was asking for that's what happens you know what i'm saying and you got all this on nigga you look like food like just within i'm about to chop you like

Starting point is 00:49:52 nigga your skin clean your skin fresh you ain't got no cuts yeah i'd have been cut before nigga so it ain't go be nothing to me nigga i gotta have nigga sweat my bitches in front of me me i tell him so that nigga fuck all that dude i'm sweating you hey you hey you hey you're this bitch. I don't been through hell in the cell in this game, nigga, I got cuts all over my back. So when I see fresh skin, nigga, what you think I'm on? But shot, you know what, though? It was crazy. You cut that nigga, every will be on his feet because he still walked away. Yeah, he still walked away, man. I said he cut the shit out of that nigga, man.

Starting point is 00:50:20 At least he walked away, man, but you cut these mud, man. But you know what was so cold. But you know what was so cold. Like, this is how real of a nigga I am, though, right? And he can vouch for this. Wherever the fuck he may be, Tucker this one for you, I'm going to keep it real. After that, as real if a nigga I am, I said, hey, me, I point him in the right direction. Here, man, this, if you're going to have something around your neck here, at least get around the real people. Like, get around the people that you, you know what I'm saying? They can know.

Starting point is 00:50:44 Don't be just trying to say something. Because like I've said before, that's like a nigga gang banging, right? And you say, you from this neighborhood, you always say that shit in the mirror. You say that shit to your bitches. And then there's one day, nigga, you outside. You walking down the block. And a nigga bump into you and you say that shit to him. He said, no, nigga, I'm really from there.

Starting point is 00:51:02 A nigga, who is you? and now you got a problem like I'm really from there, nigga so that's how I took that shit I'm really from there so you know when I see a nigga that do that I'm like you don't even know what this shit really even took I'm ready to fire on you

Starting point is 00:51:15 You ain't gave him Seamo Hey yeah you ain't gave him Seamo No lookout man I listen to me I love listen to me I love Seymour he ain't never even talk to Seymour I put him on the phone with Mo Yeah Mo won his phone Moe won his issue The bitch's gonna want his issue

Starting point is 00:51:31 I know I put him That will you think I put him on the phone with first? That's why I put him. I mean, I think I'm in San Diego at the time. Me and Mo, we sitting down. We all in the restaurant. I think I'm with Virgil. You know, we all sitting there or whatever.

Starting point is 00:51:43 And we was talking about it, you know, having our discussions. You know how I go with the chairmen and everybody. Yes, sir. You know, and, you know, we in Kangaroo court and I say, hey, man, well, shit, I want to put the nigger on the line, but I put him on the line and I linked him with him. You know what I'm saying? I'm real. Guess who gave me my game?

Starting point is 00:52:00 Revenue C-mo. Yeah. I love Moe. Listen, man. Love Moe. I'm going to get some real. Moe coming. I've got Moe coming.

Starting point is 00:52:06 Let me get some real crazy shit. Moe love me. You're going to love this on your show, right? Yeah. So I'm at Mr. Case where you buy Gators because, you know, I bought all the gators in Milwaukee. I had to go to Chicago and buy on 89th in the Cottage Grove, Mr. Case. So I'm up in there.

Starting point is 00:52:20 I'm buying gators and shit. You know what I'm saying? This nigga come up to me. He said, say, man, we got to play his ball. This is 95, right? I said, play his ball. Who are going to be there? This is Bishop Don Juan.

Starting point is 00:52:29 I said, okay, yeah, whatever, man. But, you know, Bishop, I always looked up to Bishop. I always thought he was a great man. Yeah. So I went to the players. Yes, he's a great man. So I went to the players ball. And, man, when I got through, man, he just got me for like about $1,500.

Starting point is 00:52:43 I was like, damn. I was like, so the nix said, the VIP, you're going to pay $500 for the VAT. So the VIP was a curtain. You know what I'm saying? So you moved a curtain and you beat out. I said, God damn. They're playing. So the biggest, man.

Starting point is 00:52:55 Hey, that nigg is gay, me the game, man. And I'll tell you, man, Reverend Seimo, I've changed my life, man. I've seen that nigga, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, I'm Toby, yeah, he sold a book for $100 Bishop Book, a Pimp from Pimpster's the Book. I said, man, that's who I want to be like, I want to be like OG because O.G. getting the money.

Starting point is 00:53:13 You know, everybody else partying. So, you know, Seymot riding around Phantoms. He, he kill them most young niggas. And this nigga just, he's just an old school player just came from him, man, really having him really playing in his bag. Man, even his son, Toby, like I said. That's the nigga I get my game from.

Starting point is 00:53:27 I love Toby. He gave me the new game. The DVD selling like that from him, Pimp? I ain't going to even lie either. I ain't going to front on camera. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's solid. Listen to me, man.

Starting point is 00:53:36 He showed me that game when I was young. First time I ever met him, I remember, man, being, they threw something through a party. I was just, it's just parties, you know. They threw a party south side Chicago. We stand in the Southside Loop O'Tiel. I remember that's when white folks was still a lot. That's my nigga, yeah. I was fucking with white folks, man.

Starting point is 00:53:52 It was me, white folks. It was a couple people, man, moving around. You know, Bishop there, Kenny Redd. Kenny Redd. Kenny Reddreds was short. At the time, how I remember this? His shit was long than a motherfucker when he passed, you know? Just even being around and just being around real good game, man,

Starting point is 00:54:08 and just solid game to hear some of these youngsters try to kick this shit today. Like, nigga, you'll never imitate that shit. Nigel, you had to be there. It ain't no pictures. Yeah, there's some DVDs or things like that. But, nigga, there wasn't none of that. You had to be there for them stories. That's what made them stories epic to even be able to tell.

Starting point is 00:54:24 Did you see that video with Kenny Red came to my house? Okay, so Kenny, Kenny, Kenny Redd, Richie Rich Bishop, Seymol, all of them came to my little estate up there in Milwaukee. And, you know what I'm saying? When they came there, you know, Kenny Red, you know what I'm saying? That was the last time that he had came to the mill. He came to my party the year before.

Starting point is 00:54:45 And, you know what I'm saying? The man was just, you know, he was so electrifying. And me and Bishop had some disagreements, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, at the time, I was like, I ain't with the church, you know what I'm saying? But it was like, I don't know bad way. But you know what it is, though. We all been, you know, connected for years.

Starting point is 00:55:02 No, I understand now. So what happened was, you know, they all came and then, you know, you know, me and Bishop, you understand what, I made it up on camera. It's on, it's on, it's on the YouTube. And I say, yeah, man, you, I respect you, OG. I said, you know, I was just coming from, you know, the perspective of my mother. He said, your mama should have told you. So they explained it to me. And then, you know, now I always say church.

Starting point is 00:55:21 You know what I'm saying? I'm down with the church. You know what I'm saying. And think about this. And I'm just came to my father's funeral. And not even to cut you all, but you got to think about it's different hands. that bring us together now. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:55:31 From all walks and from all over. So everybody's beliefs be different, but we all going to the same fork in the roads. You know, Church, it was deep in Kay Red's funeral. Man, we was all there, man, at the top of the hill. You know, I miss him because he really did. Like, he was like, for me, man, the West Coast, like, you know, we took a big hit in the head.

Starting point is 00:55:50 You know, so now it's like, fuck, we got to kind of step up and still be some of them voices. You know what I mean? Kenny Red pimped in the 90s. Yeah. I was on the blade with Kenny Red. Me and Kenny Ray had two of the same bitches. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:03 I don't even want to say their name. One of them you might, no. Yesterday you might have seen, he's very famous. You know what I'm saying? We didn't have these same bitches. Yeah. You know what I mean? No, listen, I didn't knock these niggas for their holes.

Starting point is 00:56:13 These niggins that knocked me for the bitch. He didn't say the bitch. I ain't going to say the bitch's name. He got me for a bitch. You know what I'm saying. We didn't went, we didn't win circles about these. That's how far we used to go. I knew the wrong list.

Starting point is 00:56:24 I knew the nigg was skinny. When he was skinny Kenny Red. See in the game, that's what niggas fell to realize was like when you had problems with a nigga. Like you're moving for the bitch. No, man, Kenny never had problems. Not saying you did, but I'm just saying like niggins today they want to shoot each other, right? They shoot him up, bang, bang in the game. No, if you, I'm just saying, if you had a problem.

Starting point is 00:56:40 If you had a problem with a nigger back then, right, you called yourself in the game, called yourself pipping. The way you get to him, moving for the bitch, moving for his whole stable. And you know what? Moving for his whole stable, man. I give you that sharp. Right or wrong. It was a few niggas. I used to follow them all over the country.

Starting point is 00:56:58 Where you had, nigga? And Fiddle me. I'm on my way. You know what I'm saying? I'm over there. I'm swearing this guy. So, man, I'm talking about my gators and shit, man. They're bending over and shit.

Starting point is 00:57:07 I swear the nigger so hard. But, you know, I always swear them until I get him. You know what I'm saying? And the nigger made me mad. You know what I'm saying? The way that I did want to get revenge is to knock him to the hole. You know what I'm going to say the name? He's going to get mad.

Starting point is 00:57:18 I couldn't knock him. You know what I couldn't knock him. I couldn't knock him. So what I did was I devised a strategy, right? I sit my bitch down there. I gave the bitch the cell phone. I said, look here. I said, you go and befriend that bitch.

Starting point is 00:57:30 That bitch don't even know you down with me. You befriend that bitch. She befriended the bitch. Then she told the bitch, let me use your phone. The bitch called me. I called her. She called me. We developed a call law.

Starting point is 00:57:40 And the bitch said, my daddy said, he could call your daddy and say that you out of pocket. You know what I mean? And the bitch was like, I ain't out of pocket. He said, well, prove it then. My daddy said, he got you back, though. He said, bitch, all you got to do, bitch, just be a happy hook and come on home, bitch, and give us some pinpin, right? The bitch chose up.

Starting point is 00:57:56 Hey, I call that nigga, man, I heard the phone drop, man. Hey, the phone drop. Hey, hey, listen, hey, hey, shot, shot. This is, hey, this is all original for my game. I mean, that's how hard I wanted to knock this. The bitch, the nigga phone dropped, right? You know what I'm saying? And the nigga couldn't figure out, how is that peeling for his bottom bitch?

Starting point is 00:58:15 I said, nigga, you know what I said, anybody could be pill. One bitch was like, one nigga said, we was all about 100 pimpses. We was standing around the hotel. This little cheap-ass hotel, and this one nigga, man, he had this bitch on lock, man. The nigga had locks and blocks on the bitch, right? So he said, man, that bitch ain't going to listen. She ain't on a pod.

Starting point is 00:58:31 I said, say, bitch. I said, say, bitch. I said, you got some bubble gum on your shoes. The bitch looked down. I said, see, I told him the bulls. We listened to that. Bitch out of the pocket. I said, you out of pocket.

Starting point is 00:58:41 That nigga ain't pippen. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you know, but you know, that was just the swiftness of the game. That's why the bigs don't want me back in the game. back in the game shop. They better be glad I got the books in the hip-hop fraternity, man. They better be glad I changed my life. Because, man, I'll tell you I was hell. Man, I can you name any big pimped down there out of pilt them for a bitch. Any classical big-time pimp, they'll tell you, they didn't get a phone call for me.

Starting point is 00:59:05 You understand me? And this is through my heyday. You know what I'm saying? Now, we're going back in years, but you know what I'm saying? When them nigg was really mashing, crash and studying, Teddy asking, you know what said, Ken was in their business. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. That's our talking, nigga, getting your business. That's how it was. went. That's how the war was won. Man, if you can, I appreciate you for you even coming. Man, I just want to invite my family on here for me Lee. Come on, y'all. Come on, come on, let me know. Come on, yeah, man. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. I want to show what. Because you know what you've been, but this is where you're at now. Yeah, this is. And this is. And you know what, man.

Starting point is 00:59:43 To see you still be able to keep a group. You went from a group of halls to try to move. being with a group of artists or rappers. A family. A family. But no, just being able to tap into one each other's minds. And like being able to understand them, that shit comes from years of understanding, man. You know?

Starting point is 01:00:02 So I just, I appreciate you, man. So this is Cache, Jet Boy Cash. Tell them where they can find you at. Hey, you can find your IG at Jet Boy Caz underscore 19. Yeah. That's my son too. That's my Julia. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 01:00:18 Live right there, church, for real. And this is the lady of the old person. Yeah, she ain't said nothing, man. Man, we just been sitting above. We're kicking game, but that's how that shit's supposed to be. You ain't got to say nothing, though, dude. You ain't got to say nothing. My name is so candy.

Starting point is 01:00:32 Let me introduce you to the bad as big. You can follow me on a video at Real Stoke. I don't know, baby. That might have fucked around and landed you an interview. I'm going to put that shit to the motherfucking test. Richie Rich, we already know your ugly ass. Let's skip cross your ass. I know.

Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah, for real, though. Hey, you is a good nigga, hey. And everything I ever fucked with you on, you've been solid man. from day one. Sorry, you know, even with the crazy-ass, big ass on. Don't know. Look at the camera and speak to the camera.

Starting point is 01:00:58 You get over here a little bit. You come in. Right here. They hear you and see you, man. Y. Y. Y. Ritch, the one and I only to go.

Starting point is 01:01:05 I'm in a building. A.J. Jeff. We're in a building, man. Y'H. H.H. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. You did. Looking like some motherfuck of fraternities.

Starting point is 01:01:17 The sharp tank. Take it out. Let me see. Look at that. That's right. They're looking like a rich-ass, retired motherfucking announcer. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:25 Hey. I don't retire. I perspire. Talk that shit then. I'm still working. Hey, the Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.

Starting point is 01:01:37 I just want to say one thing. Y'all can find me at The Hip Hopaternity.com on Instagram at Real Pimpkin underscore and go get Bootsie new book across the track. I got Ice Team book Split Decisions and I got the infamous Pimp book 20th printing, the longest book ever printed by a publisher company, PEPology, The 48 Laws of Game by me, Pimpicam. Thank you. And, Sharp, man, I appreciate you for giving us your platform, man.

Starting point is 01:02:01 You're the gentleman in the scholar. Always, always. Hey, man, listen, man, if I want to come back as you, man. For real, man. Hey, man, Donnie. Hey, man, Pimp us out the gym today.

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