No Jumper - Pimping Ken and Grandmaster Virgil Break Down P*mping, Leaving The Game And More!

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:06 The sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I've had both of these gentlemen on single-handedly before. You know both interviews did well. We got Pippa Ken. You're walking finest in the building, man. Hey, man, we got a Northern California legend in the building, man.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm the name of Grand Master Virgil. You did. What's been going on, man. Oh, man, you know, sticking and moving. Yeah, trying to keep it at the top. Yeah, man, like we was talking about before the camera came on, I was like, I wanted y'all to come in. I was trying to get y'all in on Friday because I know y'all came in.
Starting point is 00:00:48 See, that's how P.M.'s always do it, right? It's always called a day before and expect everything first-hand service. You know, one thing about me, I always practiced being on time for years and years, you know. And my word has always been my bond. Yeah. I say something you can put it in the bank, you know. If I tell you, duck and pull a truck and take a chain and pull a train, believe it. Because that's how I come up, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I love that, man. Like I said, I wanted y'all to come in on Friday. I had to go shoot this film, you know, so it took my time up that day. I tried to push y'all back later on that day, but time didn't permit itself. Matter of fact, nobody was even here. Everybody was in Vegas, you know, for the A-B-N. So, you know, it moved our entire team out there. so they had things to do out there.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We probably could have did something that day. But I'm glad that y'all stayed. Oh, yeah, man. Just some more pimping, man. I'm glad y'all stayed, man, the extra day. Just some old pimping, man. You know, I'm glad y'all stayed an extra day. Somebody got charged.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Somebody got charged for it. Somebody got charged for it. Somebody came up with the dog. You know what I'm saying? I'm happy to have both y'all here. Pippa Kinn, I'll start with you because the last time I had you here, we got you a little intoxicated.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And I know you don't drink. I don't drink, man. So a lot of folks was mad at me. They said, man, you're going to drink on Sharm. No, he's like, man, I tried to offer you some base of spay. I said, man, man, told me it was a Kool-Aid, man. Yeah, man. I thought it was a Kool-A moment.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Well, you know, I felt like, you know, you opened up and you opening up that day. The interview was outstanding. It did amazing, you know, and to have you here, have you back. You know, it's an honor, man. It's a real treat. You know what I'm saying? It's an honor to be here, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Somebody had Grand Master here, man. His interview did well too, man. You know, just to bring even, you know, some of the older guys, man, from the game around, just to show them like, hey, man, these niggas was having it back then. They're still having it now, you know? And I don't think it's more of just the money or having money. It's the knowledge, right? Because you can't buy that.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Right, right. No matter how much money you want to eat. Hell, Michael Jackson tried to buy his childhood back, but that's a different story, right? You know, just to even have you guys knowledge in the building, man, you know, in your presence, y'all, or. I love this. That's why when you hit me said, hey, man, y'all in town,
Starting point is 00:03:16 I had to have y'all in here, man, one more time, man, you know what I'm saying? Man, we had to be here, man. Yeah, what's been going on with you, Virgil? Oh, man, you know, I've been moving around the country a little bit, trying to light fires everywhere I go, you know. So you was in Wisconsin? Yeah, I was in Wisconsin. Yeah, I was in Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah, I was in Wisconsin. gave a big party down there, you know. Yeah. And it turned around really, really nice. Had a bunch of fun down there and had some big old hitters to come out of here and there, Chicago, New York. So it was really nice.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Last party, I think I went to, of yours. I believe it was your birthday party. It was in Vegas. Los Vegas. Yeah. And we was at the party. I'll be honest with you. You know how to throw some nice events,
Starting point is 00:03:57 you know, especially for, and not even, I'm saying, because you're seasoned. You know what I'm saying? And so for you to still be able to throw parties that can still generate and bring out to the young crowd is amazing. Right. You know, and I like how you've never threw any cheap shit.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Right. He never threw no cheap party, man. Not one I've attended to or even had your name on it to where I've even seen. Right, right. Is that something you've been thinking about getting into is like going like parties for people, man? Because you know how to put them together. You know, I've been putting a few of them together. We're getting ready to do something in Fresno.
Starting point is 00:04:27 So, stop and grounds. My birthday party may be in Atlantic City, 7th, 8th, and 9th September. That's what they're talking about. They haven't finalized yet, so I'm waiting for them to put it together so we can push forward on that. I'm going to invite everybody all across the country.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's going to make this a big one. That's going to be live. You ever thought about owning a company like that? Like, throwing, like, you know what I'm saying, real expensive. to private parties. Yeah, I have. You know, I used to book entertainment back in the day.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So that's been part of my program. Also when the, the police was at me and swept me real hard. So I had to do something productive, you know, so I went to open, got the office, hired everybody. And so I was moving, I would think I was 25 at that time, all cross country, Bobby Blueburn, Lattermore, a gang of them, you know what I'm saying? It's wrong with Rick James, huh?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah, yeah. I'm the one that started Rick James and pretty close, you know? I knew Rick James before he even got big. He hadn't got started yet. Next year he blowed up like a balloon, man, one year, you know? What was that like hanging out? Because you know, the stories, you know, been, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:45 he was a crazy guy. Well, Rick James was all right. You know, it all depends. People get crazy with some people, but they don't get crazy with other people, you know what I'm saying? We got along good. Because I used to mess with a lot of entertainment, entertainers back then.
Starting point is 00:05:56 A lot of them was crazy. Bobby Bluebellan was crazy. Yeah. So, you know, I used to be up to a Slice Stone and Natalie Cole. You know, I used to have Natalie Cole back in the day, you know, in the 76. What?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. Yeah, I had her back to him. Kevin, man. Yeah, babe. Having a lot of them. Yeah, so I used to see a lot of them before they even got cranked up, you know. So you're saying you was messing with Rick James and company
Starting point is 00:06:24 way before he... Yeah, before he got to be it, before he blow it up. Where'd you meet him, man? President. Is he from out there? No, actually, he's from Buffalo. But during this time, you know, a lot of time when artists get cranked up,
Starting point is 00:06:40 they go here and there, the Billy name, Billy fan base up. And that's kind of where it was, you know. So he was at a club every night performing the Billy's name at that time. And so it's a club I used to go to. You know, I used to go out every weekend, you know. Then a lot of entertainment, little Anthony Imperals in Vegas,
Starting point is 00:06:58 I used to mess with all the entertainers, you know? Yeah. It's before the internet, before you can push yourself out there, the click of a button. Barcaids, Dramatics, and all of them, you know. And I'd say I was kind of major figure back then. Before you used to come to Fresno, you know, I was a major figure back then
Starting point is 00:07:15 because I had been in the game from 1963. So in 73, I was well-seasoned, you know. Yeah. And I was like one of the biggest players down there, man. So everybody kind of catered to this year because people weren't having a lot then, you know. Yeah. And I just having to stop up out of the box
Starting point is 00:07:31 and was performing real well, you know. So everybody kind of cater to it. So it's easy to step in more than it is now. You can't get in the doors now, but back then it was easy. All the entertainers wanted to come and mess with the players, you know? So you felt like, you know, you would bring this type of talent to the city so that made your name a little bit bigger
Starting point is 00:07:51 because you had these certain connections from your travel. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? And you would bring them to the city, have them come perform or whatever the case may be. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah, so my name used to be on the radio, you know, but I was kind of doing it just to quiet the police down for messing with me, you know, because they were sweating real hard back then, very hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And they sweating so hard, it's not that you're doing anything, it's that you're driving a new Cadillac. That's how bad it was. Yeah. Having nice houses and things. Jewelry and things in desire. My uncle called to me said, I bought a new Cadillat. and a house at the same time. How was you?
Starting point is 00:08:28 I was 25, no, I was 26. And my partner, come and told me, man, you're going to penitenti. He said, you had enough nerd about a house and a new car at the same time. That's how bad it was back then. It wasn't that long ago. It ain't been that long ago, for it 50 years.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Races was down, and the police did not like players at all. Man, it's cold. Why you think that is? Ken, why you think they had police didn't like players? Because, you know, I always hear, you know, your slogan. You know, you changed when the law's changed. So, you know, I don't want to hear your perspective.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You know, I just smashed like Lightning to beat the indictment, you know, my slogan was, hey, man, hey, man, hey, man, hey, man, hey, man, I'm the gingerbread, man, catch me if you can. You did what I'm saying? So, you know, I mean, but, you know, Ice T said it best. He said, man, you know, they got a job, we got a job. Our job is to get away. Their job is to catch us.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. So, you know, I mean, it's like a tug-a-old game. It's tick-tac and toes, you know, tick-tac-toe, exes and those, you know what I'm saying? So I feel that, you know, every time I saw the police, I remember one time I was driving shop and I had about six in the car, you know what I'm saying? We ride in. And, you know what I'm saying? They stacked up like dirty sardines, right?
Starting point is 00:09:45 So we ride in. What they stacked up like dirt? Dirty sardines, right? So we ride this, man, right? And they said, ooh. I said, oh, shit. Man, they're going to take me in these holes in jail. And I'm telling them, y'all, get down, hide the weed, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And so I pulled over, you know, and the motherfucker kept on going. You know what I'm saying? So in my mind, I'm thinking they out to get me, but they went out to get me. So we trained to think that they are out to get us, you know what I'm saying? So they instantly become enemy when you are here doing all kind of illegal. You know what I'm talking about? So I think that's probably one of the reasons, you know what I'm saying? It's just that when you know you're hustling, you're just that you're hustling, you're
Starting point is 00:10:23 You get money and you're breaking bribing banks and selling dope. You know what I mean? That's always that prospect that you can go to jail. You feel like that's been a problem for years, huh? It's been something that's not new. Well, you know, me, man, like I said, man, you know, the best ever did to get away with it. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:40 I'm going to talk about I'm going to find this. You know what I had a case in, you know, I was 21 years old, man. I'm 60 now, so that's almost 39 years. So I think, you know, a lot of dudes, you know, the reason why they get f*** up is because of greed. You know, when Mufford walked there, greedy, you know, they got to know man when he banked up.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You know what I'm saying? You go to a town, you knock the town for 100,000, man. You know, you got to do a bad dash. You know what I'm talking about? They want to stay and put it in their face though. Yeah, I mean, you know. That's the problem. No, I feel like that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:11:08 See, when they go eat something big or two, something from what I've known of it, right? You get out the mix. The nigga that's got the bread was the quietest. They get addicted to selling drugs. They get addicted to horn. They get addicted to breaking the beer. They never use finesse. In my book, I said, you got to turn them whole ends
Starting point is 00:11:26 and the dividends, you know what I'm saying? You got to do some with that whole money, man. So when it is a slow night, you know what I'm saying, that money's still work. You take $200 bills, you rub them together. They're going to have $100 bill babies. You feel what I'm saying? So that's what I'm talking about, man, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:40 invest in that money, and that's what I'm doing with the hip-hop attorney, my son, at one, the Great Supreme, and my artists are cash. You know, we travel all over the country. We're doing this music. You know, I got HHF radio, HHF records. We got HHF Awards. You were supposed to come last year, but you got busy.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So we got the HHF Awards. You know, Virgil be coming. Awards, I got HHF FIM. I'm currently filming. Yeah, I mean, nominated. I'm nominated you again this year. So, you know, that's Ice-T Co- that was Ice-T crimey there. You know, that book, I told you about split decision.
Starting point is 00:12:12 That's Spike over there. So, you know, I did their book. You know, I'm doing Virgil's. Virgil's going to be a part of the Ice-T movie. So we're doing movies in that. So it's about transitions, you know what I'm saying? You ever drive your car and you switch gears, but that's what you got to do with your pimping, man.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I think that's why y'all probably stay in touch with me so much or we always have something in common because you see, I know the transition to play. You learn from you, you learn from me, shop. You all tell them, man. You all see what I'm going to do. Tell me you got some good game for the OG, man. Yeah, for sure, man.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I always, listen, it has to come from somewhere. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like we all teach each other. You know, this might be some things that I can go learn that I can bring back to the older. generation and older generation can teach me something. See, that's why I think that we...
Starting point is 00:12:57 But I think that's where we get the game fucked up or just people that play in certain entities. He is, you got to still learn. Everybody tries to hop off the porch, man, thinking that they're ready to fly. You're not ready to fly yet. You still got a lot to learn. And with learning comes trials and error.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You know, you got to come with... You just got to come with that. When niggins say pimping, like I think about pimping is something that I had to do, even when I didn't want to, get up and go make a move, but this was the choice that I made. I'm so knee-deep. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I never thought I'd find a way to be honest. Never thought I'd find a way. You know, pimping is the school for boys, but pimping, that's the next level of peeping. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They're learning. You know what I'm saying? They're in school.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You both own businesses. This is a question for both. for both. You both own businesses. Do you feel like you apply the things that you've learned throughout the game in your everyday business? And not even saying because, you know, the viewers get
Starting point is 00:14:02 crazy, that's not having a bitch running through your business, just in the way that you may approach certain situations throughout your business. You know what I'm saying? Do you still find yourself like, damn? Some shit I probably would have did you know, fucking with the bitch, or you know what I'm saying? We'd have to make a move, but now I'm doing it in a
Starting point is 00:14:17 legitimate standpoint. Most definitely. Like, go ahead, Bertie. To me, it seemed like you get caught up in a globe, you know. You know, water seeks its own level, you know. And when you're a victim of what you're around, that's what you become. So it's hard to shake up out of it until something drastic happened. You get around somebody who got more knowledge and things like that, because that's what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You know, I started getting businesses years ago, but I wasn't educated enough because I come from the streets. So I was just trying something for whatever reason to try and make it happen. And I was one of them youngsters, like you say, not really focused to sit on business itself because that's not where I come from, but I just got caught up in it, and it never progressed to something. But as you go, you grow. So I learned in the long run Stop thinking like a youngster
Starting point is 00:15:23 And thinking like I'm grown So I start I got the Soul Food Kitchen down there now You don't have the beauty supplies I didn't try a lot of things you know I'd had the wedding chapels I didn't bought hotels
Starting point is 00:15:36 They would never think of people Try something like that Yeah To transition to try to evolve They always think that They want to break on the Right The bs you see what they felt to realize
Starting point is 00:15:46 Is that we got smart a long time ago. These these bitches will expire. Right. Exactly, yeah. At some point in time, I don't give a fuck if she stays with you until she's old and great.
Starting point is 00:15:58 There's going to be a time to where she's not as appealing as she once was. Check this out pimping. And me, it's all pimping. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, you got 10 holes, you got 10 employees. You know what I'm saying? You got a bottom guy.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You got a manager. You know what I'm saying? You know, so you got to, you know, look at it like pepping. Because, you know, like I always tell people, you know, in every situation there's a pimper in the hole. You just got to figure out you're the pep of the hope. You know what I'm saying? The United States government, Uncle Sam,
Starting point is 00:16:24 every April 15, he said, break yourself, you know what you do, you break yourself. He say break yourself. You mean, if you don't break yourself, what he do? He puts you under pimper ass, right? What it is. You know what it is? You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You don't break himself. You're going to put it up in the pimper ass. He does make sense. He says, Uncle Sam, I'm going to come break your ass. Every April 15, he won't his. You know what I'm saying? That's how I wanted mine. So, you know, that's how I looked at it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I like, you know, hey, bitch, I reach out this, reaching for your money, you know what I'm saying? Your job is, I got a quarterback who passed a pimped the purse, you know what I'm saying? If you can't do that, then, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm about to give you a Chinese name, one gone. Most people, most people take the, uh, the Pimp word, or, you know, somebody who came from the lifestyle has an aggressor, a woman beater, and manipulator and manipulator and manipulating or a narcissist, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I've always had the outlook of impetus, you know, I never forced to do shit in nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always wanted to be there because she wanted to be there. Hell, if I would have forced to, with my catch hand, probably been a lot better, probably, you know, but I roll with the punches.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You know, I roll with the tides of how things happen. See, you know, they look at me, I'm a handsome man. I know I am. I know what I do. I know I keep myself sharp. That's why my name's sharp. But when I got in the game,
Starting point is 00:17:50 it wasn't about that. Right. I didn't choose you for a handsome face. She chose you with the game that you had in place. You did what I'm saying? So it wasn't, you know, today I'm going to choose a car. You know, she'll choose, you know, some jewelry or not on his body. You know, I always was taught, bitch, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:09 don't choose the ride. Choose the play inside. You know what I'm saying? Know who you fucking with. They're probably, I blame the bids because it probably would have been better pimps niggas that move if a borgas stood better. They got away from the pimping
Starting point is 00:18:22 because they was like, okay, well, maybe he'll never love me the way that I want him to love me so she might go choose a gang member. She might go choose a drug dealer. She'll go and she'll choose somebody like that because she's like, okay, well, he could somewhat love me. He's not pimping. I know what pimping does, and he can do everything for me.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's a trick to her. He can do everything for me. But let's not put it all on this. The B, clothes, everything. The man can never give me what I really want. That's the love of abundance of being in love. Nephew, let's not all put it on the bitch, right? Because a lot of these niggas are miss pimping too, right?
Starting point is 00:18:57 They are. So a lot of times, you know, a bitch can be fucking with some sucker pimping, then she'd give us some real pimping. Then you're saying the bifton, think that the real pimping is the sucker period. She can fission, then she goes for the sucker. Then she realized that she was fucking real pimping. So a lot of times these nests than me, they got the ABCs, but they ain't got the X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 00:19:14 they'd be miss pimping on the bitch. So a lot of times make this shit difficult when they're out there, you know, not properly, you know, in the proper garb, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:22 not dressed right, not kicking the right pimping and then making deals with these holes. These niggas is Marty Hall around the shit. Man, they make a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, man. So that's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:30 This don't just say it don't know. No. You know, you got to be some bit pimping too, man. But it took some, hey, but it took some real holes to say I can't do this no more.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I need love. I need somebody who's, gonna hold me at night. I don't want him to have no more. You know I'm telling the real grandmas. You know it's why you laugh. See, one thing about it, when you catch a,
Starting point is 00:19:56 you don't know them about it, you got probably 10 niggas problems that you got to go through and execute. Because everybody that she didn't have been with, you're going to have problems out of, whatever's in the other. mind, you're going to have problems out of it because she got 10 of them do she didn't blame with.
Starting point is 00:20:17 That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. And so that's going to create the monster weapon itself. But if they get a bitch for me, man, hey man, he's going to be a happy capital, man. You know what I'm talking about? I understand. I'm saying. I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You know what I was telling you? I didn't make those deals with the whole. I say, if you catch a, if you catch a bitch that I didn't have, you're going to get paid so good because she's already on this right. Hey, man, a real one, you know, ain't going to accept the felonious shit, you know. Right. A real hole, no, that. See, it's different when, you know, you put a hole in the circle, right?
Starting point is 00:20:53 It's me, Ken, Virgil, maybe one other, right? We'll leave him as other because it's just going to be other. If you kicking the same shit, I'm kicking the same shit, Grandmaster kicking the same shit, hopefully the next nigga kicking the same shit. She ain't got nowhere to go, but to some pippin. That's right. But if there's somebody that's sitting there. But if somebody that's sitting there that, you know, he kicking some pippet, he kicking some pippet, I'm kicking some pippet.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And there's one nigga that says, well, shit, I'll accept it. Shit, like, the bitch always going to look for the weakest link to run to. Yeah. You know, I've always believed in, you know, especially a host, standing strong, you know. Stand strong with me, baby. You know, I don't want you to be a fall down. You know, I want you to be a stay down. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:37 So I always look at it like she goes and chooses the weakest link. because she knows she can control somewhat of the situation. And that's why I said, like, it was the bitch because she had to go choose. It's called choosing up, right? It's not about let's just accept. It's not the name of the game. You know, they choose up or down.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Some of those choose down a lot. Yeah, yeah. They go to the wrong way, man. I mean, shit, a lot of that. You go, listen, you'll leave a good pimp. You'll be with somebody for, let's just say, five, 10 years. Nigger treated you good.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Nigger may show everything was good for you, had everything that you wanted in the world. The only thing that you started to have a problem with is that you just didn't want all these bitches around no mother. Now you start to think. Now you're like, well, shit, I'm going to eliminate myself from the situation because this man been talking to me good. I've been fucking him on the low.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I've been doing all this shit. He's promising me the world. He's saying he's going to be with me for her to cross over and to go into a shitty-ass situation any motherfucking way. I always tell him there's no getting away from it. My name is terms, a bitch has to pick a struggle. You're going to have to roll one, bitch, what you want. You want to be able to lay up being in love.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I've seen would love be. That can land your ass on Skid Row, laying in two sleeping bags. Love's not about let's just lay up under one another. Love is about what can we both bring to the table. And that's what I've always took for the game. Because bitch, you're going to always want to make sure that, hey, I'm always, you're always going to want to see me shining and doing what I'm doing with or without you. That's why you chose me because I'm a nigga that's shining.
Starting point is 00:23:08 A lot of these bitches don't make niggas no more. they want the nigger that's already got it. If you don't already got it, even if he got some real good game about himself, he just got, hey, he's just having a hard time right now, and the bitch might be catching the sad shit. And all been through it, they're just catching a nigger's sad shit at the time, but it don't take from you being the ideal nigger, the ideal pimp of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Right. Yeah, there's several different reasons why bitches choose, you know. Several different reasons. They might choose, like you say, because it's the weakling. They might choose because they want some elevation, in life. They might choose because it's a conference zone. They might when you get a bitch of mind
Starting point is 00:23:46 if you ain't pipper, you ain't gonna have them. She's gone. Because that's all I stand with, you know. And that's all she like. That's all she accustomed to. And see, that's why I think you know the viewer or the square might get it fucked up. Don't think
Starting point is 00:24:03 that she was forced or she was put into a situation to where she had no other obligation but to do this. No, these bids just choose this shit, man. And that's what people fail to realize. They think that it's being forced on. No, these bidschers going to
Starting point is 00:24:19 do it with or without us. Yeah, it's by choice. It ain't by force. No. But a real whole like real peanut. Yeah. Yeah. Peanut butter like real jelly. Yeah. So all these dudes that act like they're doing this and doing this, a whole lot of them ain't doing none of that. You know, they just got
Starting point is 00:24:35 the look alike. They acted like, but they ain't one of them. Well, you know, I'm not mad at Max. You know, players, you know, I ain't never had a, you know, my name used to be Mac Rob, right? You know, and when I went to Chicago, I was probably about 17, 18 years old, right? And I went out to Chicago. Hey, you know, I learned that, you know, for a pimp, you know, Mac is short for mackerel. And that's what the bitch pussy smelled like when she ain't washed it, right?
Starting point is 00:24:59 You got to have a real pimp's name. Right. You do what I'm saying? Like a marvelous mob or pimping can or grandmaster Virgil. You know, my name was sharp rock. Right, right. You did? Yeah, you had to get a real pimps name and I always felt like you had to go cross-country to go get that. You know what I learned?
Starting point is 00:25:18 What? When I was about 18. You know, pimps went for 10 or 15 years and you don't know their real name because everybody had nicknamed for protection. That's when I was coming up. That's how it was. Just like Sharpe. There's a lot of people been around your way that don't even know your real name. See what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:42 They might know now. Yeah, I'm talking about you. Because you know, I'm talking about the phone. But before, no, they wouldn't know. Man, if somebody wasn't in my circle, let's just say even a bitch. See, that'd be the problems why these niggas get robbed. That's why a lot of shit happens is because you let the bitch so far off in your circle the first day just because she chose. Sometimes they, man, man, get a bitch 30 days.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Give her a 30-day run. What happened to that? See what she do first before you just bring in your stable. Oh, yeah, for sure. Niggas be five deep. Niggas be five deep, man. You let this one bad apple in the motherfucker. fucking bunch. She them blew the whole situation.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Now all you got is you and this bitch in her arguments. Man, I used to make a bitch prove herself. I didn't bring her to the house. She stayed at the hotel, motel, wherever she had, but she can't come to the house. You got to run the state. Well, you know, Virgil, a lot of nigs do understand that pimps are actors
Starting point is 00:26:28 and holes are reactors. A bitch is a reflection of a pimp. Right. You understand what I'm saying? If you been blessed to be around me when I was in the gang, you know, my holes will mix, I won't mix. My hose were, I wore dives, my my holes were diamonds. You know, we both look good.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I can relate. And a lot of holes, right, they would go and say, I'm going to fuck with Pipp and Kim because I see his program. You know, a lot of these niggas, they'd be putting hands on these holes. Pipp and Kim was putting plans on these holes.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You know what I'm talking about? Man. So, you know what I'm saying? So that's the difference between, you know, a simp and a pimp. A lot of times, you know, when you think about the ism, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:01 You got to remember, you understand. This is a psychological game. This is a mind game. It's ain't no bullshit. You can't just come up out of, you know, high school talking about I'm a pimp. That's right. Realest game ever you
Starting point is 00:27:12 I've ever heard you say. Because you know what? If you really look at it, if you leave a bitch with some plans and not just putting some hands, she's going to chase some plans for a lifetime. Yeah. She's going to chase that shit for a lifetime. Ain't no bitch going to chase, even if a bitch
Starting point is 00:27:25 like getting her ass whoop, let's just say. How long she chased that? How long she can chase that? How long she can chase that? How long she can chase that? Lebrough. You remember my book? I said I used to make my hose write down their plans
Starting point is 00:27:36 and read every day twice a day. that was a real thing, man because the mind, like, everything that's going on all these cameras and shit, your mind is picking up all this shit simultaneously. You know, the mind is like computer, garbage in garbage,
Starting point is 00:27:47 so if you don't program the mind, if you don't get the mind something to focus on, what happens is it gets sidetracked. And that's the problem with these niggas, they don't have no plans. They just got hands. You know how a nigga, you know what I'm saying, me, beat the bitch,
Starting point is 00:27:59 yeah, bitch you're all on the track, who's a hole, and then, you know what I'm saying, you know, a nigga loses cigarettes. He's looking for his cigarettes. He don't know what a cigarette where he ran out of game. A lot of these, when they get to putting their dukes up, they run out of game.
Starting point is 00:28:09 They can't pimp at the bitch no more. Any nigga that ever been around me, they know from the moment that whole walking the door to the moment that whole, I'm giving the whole instruction. Say, bitch, pick up that motherfucking cigarette off the floor. Hey, bitch, you know what I'm saying? Go give me some eggs. Say, bitch, go do this. Hey, bitch, go to the car, go do that. I'm always giving bitch instructions.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And that's what happened. When niggas at home playing video games and the nigger ain't paying attention to the bitch, then that's when the bitch get to action. Like you said, the bitch want to challenge you. Now the bitch's challenging because she ain't giving no pimping them So pimping is instructions so when they can stop giving instructions He stopped instructing the bitch then the bitch started going on her own instructions And that's self-destruction you see what I'm saying? So that's the problem a lot of these niggas they do not understand that pimping ain't nothing of the instructions
Starting point is 00:28:53 You know what I'm saying? Yeah man that bitch's out of the motherfucking sharp instructions man that's his hope Yeah man that bitch yeah she under some sharp pimping Okay well that's instructions but a lot of niggas you know what I'm saying they think once they get the money Then they they they bait it and all right you got to keep pimping. That's why I kept hold for four, five years because I have pills. Hey, my, in a minute, my son, Supreme, he's been in all over country, cross-country.
Starting point is 00:29:14 He's, I cuss a bitch out a minute. I don't cuss the bitch out because I'm being disrespectful because I want the bitch to know that I'm still pimping. Say, yeah, bitch, you got a pimp to pay haul you, you understand. Yeah, bitch, pimping in the building. I'm saying that, not because I'm excited or I'm puffed up in my own conceit. The minute I stop pimping at that hole, the minute she started thinking like a square. That's what I lost. Once they lose respect, it's there ain't nothing left.
Starting point is 00:29:37 You can't lose the hole, man. You know, I used to give a, um, them holes. I used to teach them TA. You ever heard that TA? What? Transactual analysis? There you go. Transaction analysis.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, man. Come on all pimps in that shit, man. Hey, man, that's a pimps shit, man. You're going to be a pinch you guys about that. No, I'm asking. I'm aware of a, because I've never heard of it. You know what I'm saying? Shit, I like to get game where I can get it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 No, no. No, it's good. That's how you know I'm honest, though. Like, if I don't know, I'm honest, though. I'm going to ask. Oh, yes. I do the same thing. I do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's how we trade game. No, it's, it's Dr. Eric Burns, right? He got the thing, say, I'm okay, you okay. Right. So you got different equal state. You got the child equal state, the adult equal state, the parent equal state. So every time that bitch is either one of those equals states, she's in the child ego state, she's in the adult equal state,
Starting point is 00:30:26 or she in the parent ego state. And then you're in one of those equal states too, so y'all balancing. And that's how you, you know, basically control the, The bitch, you know, I'm saying? It's a psychiatrist by the name of Dr. Egg Burns. So a lot of niggas, you know, that really just want to get into the psychology of pimping. Because game is psychology. Like I told you last time.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I said, my daddy told me, he said, Ken, you don't break a nigger. Because I knew how to cheat and shoot bad dice back in the day. He said, you don't break it. He let the nigger win first. The catch it coming for the hangar. You feel what I'm saying? I hope the viewer catching all this game that's really big and drop. Like, hey, motherfucker's a totalist in the corner in the closet and let it collect.
Starting point is 00:31:04 dust but this shit can really be utilized in your everyday life yeah but like you say everyday life my holes grow brand new cars full link fox coat not thing but foxes but as I elevated uh minks now you know but back then we're talking about seven yeah it's got to start somewhere yeah yeah me coats all went to the flow brand new cars you know they were putting holes in buckets and things they just get mad because you know, feel like a hold and deserve that, but you've got to be, put your hold as big as your game, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:40 But Virgil, it's simple, right? Say, versus, if I meet a bitch, right? Hey, bitch, what's up, bitch? You know what I'm saying? Hey, bitch, you need some real good pimper and then you like, hold you, I'm saying. Hey, bitch, let it be pepper keying for the money, bitch, or for the record, bitch.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Not the record, too smart, we need it for the abble, you know what I'm talking? I'm popping this shit, right? I said, yeah, bitch, I'm going to have you looking good, and all this shit, bitch, and put diamonds on you and all that shit. Right. Why should I tell the bitch
Starting point is 00:32:01 Sell the bitch to dream? No, I want to be the dream I want to pull up with the bigs, the diamonds, the roses, the rosewises. I want to be that nigger. So when nigger said Ken got chosled with his mouth closed, that's because every dream you were selling the bitch I was the dream, nigga.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Quit selling the bitch to dream, nigga, it lived the motherfucking dream. And that's the problem with a lot of these niggas, man. You know what I'm saying? They fixed up garbage can. You know what I'm talking about? They muckies with no pockets. You know what I'm talking about they stop signs.
Starting point is 00:32:23 You know what I'm saying? So the holes are stopping right there and the hole can't get to the real pivot, man, because a lot of the sipping going on, you know what I'm talking about? So you got to have an automatic sit separated. You know, you got to be able to separate the live from the job. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of holes, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:35 When you're selling the bitch a dream and you tell the bitch, hey, bitch, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. And then Virgil got on one ring. There's 22 cars. That's worth $10,000. Right. Why should I wait for your dream when I could just go right and get with the Virgil dream? Call it all fake.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And you know what it is? They don't call these rappers jewelry fake. These nicks be wearing fake shit. They don't like it. No, I'm speaking on some real shit. Yeah, I know what he said. They'll call him fake because they don't like where he come from. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:05 They're not going to like the culture. Yeah, that's right. We're not the most like culture. At all. So everything that we do is got to be fake. It's got to be raunchy. It's got to be the most lowdown. Why you think they never had no problems with pimps
Starting point is 00:33:18 until they start finding out what niggas was having? With a diamond tested. With a diamond tested. I come from a time, right? Where we could be on the blade, on the stroll. wherever the fuck we was, we could be sweating a hole. The police had come by, he's getting a little too ants. Hey, man, ease up off the prostitutes you guys.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Now, you can't even look like you a nigger that's even approaching. They're coming up on you, man. They call it Roll Roy's fake, too. They call it $5.50? You had to go get some tags. You had to switch the tags on it. They asked them. They don't like what, listen, I've always noticed this,
Starting point is 00:33:52 and this is my point to it. The people don't like what they cannot understand. If you can't ride a bike without training wheels and all everybody else can, and they come and they ask you, well, why can't you ride a bike without training wheels? Oh, it's just because I don't like it. It's not because you're going to genuinely tell them that you just can't ride the bike. Hey, I'm going to tell you some crazy shit. For real.
Starting point is 00:34:15 A real guy. He asked me with our pimp. I said, hell yeah, I'm a pimp. He said, if you're a pimp, I want you to jump up in the air and stay there for about three minutes. I said, nigg, you want a superman. I said, I was a pimp. I don't jump up in here. I don't leave tall bars,
Starting point is 00:34:32 builds nothing to shit. So in our world, you know what I'm saying? Those squares are never understanding. You know what I'm saying? His perception of a pimp is a nigger that can do wonders. So do you feel like a pimp
Starting point is 00:34:40 never sold a dream? He just sold true instruction. No, nigger my hos are wilded a walk when I talked to him. No, but it was never a dream. See, dreams only come to sleep. That's lies, though, but check this now. Drempe's only coming to sleep. Check this out, sharp.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Right. Lebrough, Lebrough, hit me out. Hit me out. One second. One second. Let me hear me out. Let me hear me out.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Come on. Let me say this, right? A motherfucker that lied to a hole why he pipping is a motherfucker sucker. Nigga, my hoops is wild and walk why I pipped. Those hoes knew I was a pimp. That's why my first name was Pippin. And my last name was motherfucking Ken.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You know what I said? Don't play with these holes. That's why we have all the problem with the pippin. That's why these niggas, you understand me? You understand with the hushin'n'n'clock? Hey, my name is Romeo and I'm a juggalo. They all in the club throwing ones at the bitch. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:35:22 I asked me, do I want to dance? I said, bitch, what you ask me? I'm from France. No, I said, do you want to dance down, bitch? Do you want to put some money in my pants? Do you want a tip? I got a tip for you, bitch. Pay a motherfucker pimp.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Quit playing with these hosos. He quit playing with the game and then niggas see a change. But that's the problem, a little, bro. It's just these niggas be playing with this shit. And that's why I had to back up out of it, like the bar can't, because it was real no more. You know what I can't deal with that fake shit.
Starting point is 00:35:46 You know, I never lied to holes. I always told the hole that I was a pimp. You know you can't say you named Pimp a kid to be lying, right? Right, right, okay, all right, now. Hey, this is the thing that I'm It's a treat when I bring it through. Everybody got their own game, you know, whatever it take to win, you know. So I was in the, in Oakland one night, me and Ted Ward, Frank Ward, Willie Ward, Big Norman.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You know, everybody did now, you know, it's back in the day. So we all kicking it, you know. And so Ted Ward went off. He had another broad that he had to go work at, right? So we had a friend of mine, he had big money, nicest guy in the world, but he hung around, but he wasn't a player. Didn't even understand none of the game of it, you know. So we all left when I separate ways.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So Norman went to Ted's house. And Ted's woman said, where is Ted at? So we left her over to Nadine's house. He didn't know, like you said, telling the bra the truth. You got to tell the whole the truth, man. But Norman told his woman that where he left Ted. Now, she's already aware of this bra, but she's jealous. So Ted runs into Norma.
Starting point is 00:37:20 He said, man, I went by the house looking for you. He said, what did Gene say? She said, after what you were? She said, what you tell him? He said, I told him he was old Nadia. He said, you did what? So he said, man, you know, you don't never tell no bitch of truth. This is a fake game out here, man.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You don't never tell no bitch of the truth. We laugh so hard. So what I was that? But see, the reason, why I tell the motherfucker to tell the truth, nigger, when I knock you for that bitch, I don't want to unpack it your motherfucker lies, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Nick, don't be no kind man with the bitch. Don't be bad con switching on the bitch. I've always been a firm believer in. Yeah. I'm true. Explain myself to the bitch for shit. Yeah. I don't give a fault.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I don't even. I'm not, you ain't got to worry about me lying to you because you're not in my business. That's the problem. And I'm not going to. You're not in my business. I'm going to be honest with you. I think the,
Starting point is 00:38:18 Best people I probably ever did is when I ran probably nothing out of my house home. When they're not around you, and there's nothing against them. Like, I could be doing nothing. This is even to explain to the bitch. I could be doing nothing. See, if I want to sit there and scratch my ass all day, bitch, you'll never know. I'll probably be the business nigga in the world. I'd rather let you think about what I'm doing than you know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Because if you know what I'm doing, you probably ain't going to be thinking about me too much. And I want to keep you on, I want myself to be on your mind as much as possible. Right. You know, I don't need to tell a bitch nothing, man. Pimp's do what a Pimp do, man. You know what I'm saying? Pimp, he's going to go do whatever the fuck it is he do. Her job is, man, hey, stay in your place and get some bread.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Hell, last of my check. Nigger, wives used to do that shit, man, shit. She was scared to go on a nigga wallet to see if he had a phone number. Hey, Shab, I had the most like they had the most like they had the most like they had the most like they thought. I had them holes like they was in the Army. I tell them, bitch, the hut one, hut to her, bow face. The bitch, it was like they thought they was a motherfucker Marine. Lying up.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I mean, I was just giving them bitches so much instructions, man. The whole didn't know what the next motherfucking structure was going to be. And that's how I pimp, man. You know what I mean? I believe that, you know, I was raised, you know, all the way from the 70s and everybody know what I mean, you know, the best they ever did and got away. It didn't actually know, naturally recognized and locally accepted.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? In my era, you know what I'm saying? So I believe in my perspective, you know what I'm saying? That hey, look, here, bitch, you know what I'm saying me? Go over there, bitch, and fish this. Hey, bitch, go do that.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Go do that. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I came up. But people will take it like you trying to, because I'm trying to, I want to explain to the average, yeah, because they need to understand why and they'll take it like, oh, you just bossing the bitch around. No, if I don't tell her. Okay, well, what about, what about when they're the boss tell them, hey, go, go over there. The boss is bossing them.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So they got a boss in the bitch. guy has a boss. You understand me? Hey, that's his employer. That's my employer. Hey, bitch, I'm the motherfucker. I'm the motherfucker. I'm the motherfucker. I'm the motherfucker. You're going to do what the fuck I tell you do. Go to your job. Go to your job. Be late. Go to your job and don't do what your boss tell you what to do. Right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:22 He's going to replace your motherfucker. I can relate to what you say. I can relate to what you say. But it's going to never be no days like it was in the 60s. Seven is or the 80s. No, that's shit over with. It's poison right now. I agree with shot, though. It's poison.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I'm not disagree with Shott. I'm just telling him my pimping, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because you see, one thing about a Pimp. But see, it worked back then. Like, exactly like you said. But these days...
Starting point is 00:40:50 But now, Sharp, talking about these squares out here that's saying, okay, why is this boss to the bitch over? They want to know, and I always hear the comments and the naysayers. And, you know, we got... Listen, on me, we got gang members on this channel. We got niggas from all over.
Starting point is 00:41:04 They kick their game. I always hear they politics, you know, but I don't think anybody he gets to hear like this standpoint of us sitting down really kicking this game and really explaining me this how some of this shit go you know this shit non-violent last time i checked man pussy never killed nobody unless the nigga popped on some pills and wanted to go up and down on the bitch yeah but he don't he never hurt nobody but they'll give the a nigga that's claiming pimping 50 years to life yeah this needs to be talked about man you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:41:36 because they have a different perception of what they think this should be used. Okay, let's talk about that then. Let's talk about that. First of all, human trafficking, right? Sharp, it ain't really human trafficking because, you know, when I had holes and shit, and I used to be on the blade, the police and say you and your girlfriends go home. They thought they were girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Now, what the human traffic is, it's all about mass incarceration. When you think about America being 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's incarceration, you got to think that the dope game played out. You know what I'm saying? And we went from selling crack to selling crack between the whole back. So now Stoop Dog is a pimp, 50 cents is a pimp, T.I. I got pimps sky, quick, and everybody's screaming, pimping.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And now all these young niggas is being influenced, and they want to be pimps now. By squares, though. But let me finish. So now you got the system. The system is called CCA, Correctional Corporation America. Now they've got to figure out how do you lock the next wave of niggas up. So these niggas running from the dope game, they run into the P game. So let's come up in this couple of this charge called human trafficking.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Now you got to understand. You remember it was on 2020, right? Remember it was on Dateline, all this shit? And they were saying that it was foreigners and it was little Asian kids, little African kids being brought over here forced into prostitution. Now, me and you and Virgil and never forced no bitch in the prostitution. I can stand on that on principles. But when they make that picture, they draw that picture out to the public shop,
Starting point is 00:43:00 what they're doing now is they making everybody think that we these big old monsters. You know, I had a guy he called me, I was talking to him, he got the human trafficking case. He said, man, he just got me. I said, what you do? He said, I took a bitch. I dropped her off at the hotel, man. Next day, I know he did the stain. Next day, I know I'm in handcuffs, Ken.
Starting point is 00:43:16 They told him about, you know what I'm facing a tenant life? I said, for what? He said, him and traffic him, he didn't know the bitch a day. If I knock a bitch from you, Pimp, and you understand me, the bitch, a thoroughbred hole, and she choose me with a proper choosing fee, give me my choosing fee, $25 a time. Or $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1.50 a time. I take it half if, you know, if it's 25 and 10. You know, those are the choosy fee.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So the bitch gave me $12.50. I take the $12.50 and then I call you and I serve you. Guess what? We both get to charge now. That ain't pimping, man. This is some shit that Congress cooked up, you know what, at 3 o'clock in the morning and, you know what, and imposed it on the black community.
Starting point is 00:43:52 So you got a lot of young African-American men going to jail for human traffic because, guess what? Dope game ain't attracted no more. They locked too many niggas up. You know what I'm saying? Too many niggas went to jail for the 19-19. for crime bill of Bill Clinton. So now this is what really human trap is.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It's a trap to trap the hood. That's all it is. It's always been. It's always been that way. Yeah, it's a trap. They use, and guess what? It's 5,000 federal statutes on the federal crime. You know it's 5,000 felonies you can catch up, Brother Sharp. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Every time we get him to one, they come with a new one. Yeah. I'm going to tell you, man, they got a, thousand draws turning tricks, but they're now one of them prostitutes. They're all holes. You know, now what them prostitutes.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And don't have pimps. 99% of the bitches don't even have pimps. They only fans, all that sucker-ass shit. And the square brawls looking like holes, it ain't, you call them a bitch or a hole. You got a problem. But you go on their line, they call them bitch's holes on the day.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And they look like, that's what they dressed up to go out and party and look like. We had this conversation. That's why we talked to so very. No, I like hearing this, because like I said, this needs to be addressed. This needs to be talked about. People keep trying to put this jacket on the pimping. It was never like that.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Probably about 2000. I'm talking about you could pin freely. Moving around. To be honest with you, I feel like this. We live in a greedy country. If we're going to talk about politics, let's talk about it, especially what it stands for the American pen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Him saying, I ain't talking about sex trafficker. I ain't talking about nothing else. I'm talking about for what the American Pimp stands for today and nine times out of ten, they black, other than white folks, rest of peace, white folks, man, we miss you dearly. Yeah, my man. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you really look at it, man,
Starting point is 00:45:46 like, I think the problem came about when they start seeing what was really being had at. They thought, when you look at Pippin and Hoan, right? And you look at it how they portrayed on the movie looks very low bottom, right? Right. It looks very tacky. It looks like something people can make fun of.
Starting point is 00:46:07 It's not something that somebody's making actual money off of. Let me express on that. See, I got in the game in 1963. Blacks wouldn't happen to nothing. There's bottom of the barrel. It just got out of slavery. And like my grandfather, right before that, you know. So white folk was like the supreme of everything.
Starting point is 00:46:32 They looked down on blacks. Blacks is like nothing. Pumps start driving Cadillacs and getting their money out of the streets. So now they was doing better than white folks. They didn't like that. Most white folks was on the police department.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Five or six. And when I was raised on the road, they're afraid of the web, but four or five pimps in their town. And they was riding brand new. That's why they started riding out on black so hard because of that. Because blacks wasn't supposed to have nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And they was looking better. riding better, suit and booted hair pretty with diamonds in. White folks weren't having that. Certain few was. And you had to be a real reception to have a diamond. And let me address shot politics. So sharp, right? Like me, Kenny Red, you know, a lot of other peas,
Starting point is 00:47:22 I want to call their name, you know, like you said. You know, we all was in D.C. from the 90 to 98. Pep, like a motherfucker. You know who the tricks were? The congressmen and the senators. Guess what? But when they seen that these little ghetto boys from the hood got these holes, these bad bitches, you know what I'm saying? And they doing all kinds of shit getting tied up and getting kicked in the nuts and all this shit, all this freaky shit they do.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And they was giving the money to us. And the worst thing we did was do pimps up holes down. So I denounce pimps up holes down because I believe that pimps up holes down sent a lot of young African-Americans brothers to prison. And because everybody wants to be us. And back then, you know, I didn't know. Nobody knew. But I hate that shit, man. I hate pimps up, holds down because, like I said,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I didn't know, when I seen the camera, I didn't know what it really was. You know, I was just trying to check the bag. You know, I didn't know it was gonna become what it was, but I think that it fucked up a lot of, it fucked the game up because one thing it did, you know, it was a billion people seen it, so you know the congressman and the senator's seen it
Starting point is 00:48:21 because now the human traffic is the main subject. So when you think about that, right, and you think about the politics as you were saying, how can these fucking niggers, they probably call this niggers, they probably call this niggers, they say the word nigger. They say, how can these fucking niggers,
Starting point is 00:48:33 be out here get in I just this is my baby doll this is my Barbie doll this blind hair blue eye are gorgeous
Starting point is 00:48:41 you know what I'm saying me almighty whitey you know what I'm saying me that I'm giving all my money to is giving it to this fucking nigger
Starting point is 00:48:47 you know what I'm saying okay we got to do something about the laws we got to you know impose the loss and then we also got to you know
Starting point is 00:48:55 you guys remember one thing too about the politics you got to understand venture capitalism venture capital is a person who takes the money
Starting point is 00:49:01 from the school pension funds and take money from people like yourself and myself and Virgins, we got a little money, and they take and they invest in prisons, they invest in wars, you know, that war is a real war.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They're getting paid for that. You know, every time they drop them bombs, the bombs got to be, but they call the military industrial complex. You got the prison industrial complex. Yeah, I'm saying, man, come on, let's talk politics. Now, you want to talk politics. You don't know the shit by every year.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So now when you look at that, right, and you look at the real situation, you look at it from a paramarantic view, what you have is you have a situation, where these congressmen, first of all, I'm mad, and me and Kenny Redd, and Supreme and all the other peas that was out there was breaking the shit out of the white bitches
Starting point is 00:49:42 back in the day, and they couldn't understand how can you go get your money to a nigger? So, you understand? They couldn't wait to impose laws on us. And second of all, niggas weren't selling crack no more. You know, I'm going to drop a jewel for them because I think they don't understand. They think the pimps was dumb.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Like, no, pimps, we watched this. We watched the world news. We watch all that. Because guess what? whatever affects the stock market affects us. If they ain't spending no money, if they ain't got no money to spend, guess what? That shit don't trickle down.
Starting point is 00:50:10 That's just what makes the world go round, baby. So you got to watch the stocks. You got to watch who wants to jump out the fucking building on fucking Wall Street that day or whatever the case may be because if motherfuckers is not making money, guess what? They don't got money to go spend on Coke. They don't got money to spend on holes. They don't got money to spend on nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:28 So anything that affects the politicians or affects congressmen or any of these people. Because like you said, back in the day, shit, who was tricking the most? It was people of power. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:40 They got the money. They got the money to do whatever the fuck it is that they want to do. So if they're not making money, guess what? I'm not making money. And that shit's a problem.
Starting point is 00:50:49 You get what I'm saying? So when I get up in the mornings, I watch CNN. I watch the stocks. I watch things like this because I know if this shit's dropping or things are going on, this is letting me know
Starting point is 00:51:00 that people ain't making no money. So that way, if the bitch got a slow week or a slow month, I understand why, because there's bigger problems going the fuck on. Hey, shopper, a nigga, asked me once they said, man, where do you get rid of a bitch? I said, man, shit, I look at the bitch like Wall Street. When the stock drop, I dropped the stock. You know what I'm saying? So you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:19 With the bitch ain't getting it enough old? It might sound crazy to a lot of people, but they got to understand. We've played the same game. We understand where it come from. So if they're not eating They're not you know They might this man has a hundred thousand To fuck off for every month of his life
Starting point is 00:51:38 To spend on holes Cope like every nigga got his budget Man that trick off got his budget right You know if he don't got that And a lot of these motherfuckers got it It all affects the businesses even cars with the niggas That fucking you make money with other people And you know have another businesses
Starting point is 00:51:54 It all has a domino effect It all trickles down So even them people that spend with a nigger But everything the pimps say, everything in the pimps say are going to be confused. If I said, say, hey, bitch, break yourself. Or if I say, hey, as a pragmatic pervary, came with the propensity for autotocid, I find my spirit to be a bit too perinac to be expedited, I still confuse them. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:52:13 You know what I'm saying? We got the power of the tongue. You know what I said? We can speak intellectual. We can speak to king language or we can speak to a layman's language. And that's why we are who we are. That's why I charge for my dick. That's why my dick calls.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I got to meet on my pita. Bitch, the longer you stay, the long you have to pay. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know what I'm a Picasso, man. Hey, man, I'm a motherfucker Mona Lisa with a couple of this motherfucker's dick. Bitch ain't just been to get my dick, man. I ain't tender under the zipper, you know what I said? I never let my motherfucker little head be my big head.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I'll be honest with you. Like, for me and how I've always looked at it, I never sold my dick. I said, this is just me. Let me just me. You can turn me. You can turn me around and spin me around. Now, the bitch wants the dick. You can turn me around, spin me around, pause.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You know, throughout the whole conversation. But how I really look at it, I don't. never sold dick. If I fucked with a bitch, I fucked with a bitch. It was never because, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't have many holes that didn't pay me shit.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's not about attraction. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, bitch, you got to make me feel the vibe. Have you ever been in my car? Sharp, have you ever been in my car? Huh? Have you ever been in one of my cars? No.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It don't smell like dick. It's smelling like pussy. You got, you need Mr. Gell Ditch when you get in my car. It was all bald with pussy, man. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, it's, hey, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:25 And, you know what I'm saying? When I went selling pussy, I started selling pussyalities. The reason I say I never put a meter on it is because I look at it like this, right? No, man, come on that. Come on that, man. It's some Kevin, man. Now I'm about to get on you, man. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Hold on. You're twisting me, right? I'm not twisted. I don't want no niggins to be thinking if kids are doing no dick, man. I don't sell them dick, man. What I was saying is a choosing fee, bitch. You want to fuck with me. You got to pay me, bitch.
Starting point is 00:53:49 You got to pay me bitch. If you think I'm talking about, if you think I'm handsome, you pay my motherfucker rancers. That's all I'm saying. To give a bitch some dick, because I don't give a fuck if a bitch give me 200,000 or want to give me 200,000. If I'm not viving with the bitch, I'm not viving with the bitch. If I sit there and I fuck with it, I know I'm fucking with her for all the wrong reasons. And that'll probably put a salty taste in the bitch mouth, right?
Starting point is 00:54:07 We don't bend through that type of shit. So I don't give a fucking. Yeah, but I'm not selling dick, though. Hey, hold on. All right. All right. We are all right. We cleared it up.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I'm selling no dick, man. I'm selling gay, man. I'm trying to get into the lesson of it all. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like just for myself, right? Like, just fucking with a bitch. Like, as you know, having holes, like a bitch got her needs, right?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Like, a bitch want to get fucked. You know what I'm saying? She want to be loved on. Every woman want to be loved on, you know? And I always looked at it like, you know, when a hole go and deal with a trick, she's not in love with him. She's selling service. So she's not, I mean, there's some sick bitches out there that are really going to get themselves off with the trick.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah. But every bitch got her need, man. There's every, there's every, for every hole, there's a man that she won't. You know? And she's getting the pimping, man. She gets, that's the need, bitch. Hey, bitch, I'll give you some pimping, you know what I'm saying? Because without this pimping, bitch, you're going to self-destruck.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You know what I'm saying? So when the whole, when the whole choose's up on me, she gets some pimping, you know what I'm saying? And every nigga out there know that it's some pimping. So when you understand me, when you get one of my bitches, no seriously. When you get one of my bitches, my bitch belong to the community. And no disrespect to all you bitches that didn't broke out of the phone. Hey, ho, ain't no loving this shit, bitch. Like, fuck your shit.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Like fuck that shit, bitch. You know what I'm saying? Hey, bitch. I can't love you, bitch, if you're giving my pussy way to a trick, old. You're supposed to be my bitch, you're supposed to have some love for me old. You study fucking this, this, another hole. That ain't how I go, bitch.
Starting point is 00:55:30 So understand, bitch. As long as you fucking, as long as you trick it, bitch, I'm pimping. You up top of it? It ain't no love in the pimping and the horn. I know they say doctors need nurses and motherfucking preachers need now and pimping the horn is the best thing going. I really have a PhD, a pimping hose midd. You dig.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Hey, man, put it on that, man. Put a teddy on that one, though. You all right. Put a teddy on that one, though. Hey, what's real love? My son, Supreme, I love my kids. No, real, real shit. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I did not, listen, I did not fall in love until my daughter Kiki was born. When Kiki was born, you know what I said? I mean, I seen that precious little thing and that's when I started loving. But I ain't never loved. Man, one of those motherfucking hosmen because all them hos men, they left their mom
Starting point is 00:56:12 and they left me too, man. Bitch looked better going than she did coming, man. You know what I said? Come on, man, let's keep it real, man. You know what I'm saying? How many times them holes told you, hey, I ain't going to where. I love your pimping. Then you wake up in the morning, that bitch did got flight.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Thousands. That's why the niggins say, what's up? You know what's up? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking? About ass and gas. It plays a white bitch. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:36 We're pimping right here, man. I know I'm long gone out the game, y'all. Sharp always do this to me, man. He's only, he's pulling shit out of me. I can a goddamn fool. Don't care of him. Now I'm about to go explain to all my H&A. gentleman, my hip-opause on my hip-offrey sister
Starting point is 00:56:49 that, you know. I'm trying to go back. What's gonna do? Nah, man. I ain't got a pitch of a bitch, man. I ain't got a pitch of a bitch, man. Listen, man, I ain't got a Kodak moment.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I can't even call myself Kodak back, man. It's what we're supposed to do, man. I ain't got a pitch of a bitch, man. Hey, listen, I'm good, though. I'm good. I don't need to go back. You know, we ought to elevate it to another level, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But this is what our past was, you know, we all was on the same page. You know, it's a secret of society amongst us. Let's talk about that. But shop always do this to me, man. Shop, get me drunk. But let's up back that. I used to be a secret society, and now you got everybody trying to play.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And everybody, you know, I'm saying, it came with certain rules and regulations and certain guidelines. I mean, nigga, there was no handwritten book that was moving around. But if your ass was outside, he was going to pick it up very quick. It was a language. You was going to pick up. That's right. Hey, man, I see them niggas, man.
Starting point is 00:57:43 They're talking about it was pippin, man. You know, this is I measured pippetpitts. So I'm on the track, right? Me and my Pimp Partners, we over there on M or we on 11th Avenue, or, you know, we on Figaro or International, wherever track, LaVosville, we're at, Phoenix, Van Bueu, and all that shit. I've been everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So we on the play, a young nigga come up. He got six bitches, got his whip and everything like that. You know, I don't know if this nigga, you know, he's got the sack bigger than Santa Claus, but, hey, we're going to give him what we call beginners luck. You know what I'm saying? If he got, if he, if he still down after we work, He worked them holes and sweat them holes after about 30 days.
Starting point is 00:58:18 He lose all the bitches, he's still there. He's qualified to be a pimp. Now, if he's got them bitches, that nigger leave with a belt holding his pants up on the Greyhound and he came in the business, you know, ain't no pimping with that. So it's the ones that stood, stayed and paid and played. It's been a lot of cities that then tore a lot of niggas down
Starting point is 00:58:35 like that, though, you know. But they weren't pimps those, child. No, they wouldn't. They were simple. I was so I was players and there was Max. Pimp stood to a whole different, like, it was a one of one. It was a one of one.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You know we'll make a pimp a pimp? You know what make a pimp a pimp? Who's it? I-N-G. You know what I-N-G mean? I'm not going sitting the bitch. That's what make you a pimp. You gotta be pimping.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You know how I was told. That's a verb, right? You gotta be pimping, you can't say you're a pimp, you can't be a noun, nigga. You gotta be a verb. You got to be really sitting in a bitch. You know what I'm saying? For real.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Man, I'm not coming your son unless you make me and Supreme. The great one, y'all, y'all go follow my son. And one, my man, Jay. best opinion, my man, Jet Boy, Cah, because I'm telling you, every time I come here, everybody said, here, that nigga shot bringing that shit out to you, man. How you do, man? You're good, man. You're good at what you do.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Listen to me. The only reason, because I want y'all to come back more, you know what I'm saying? I want to sit down with y'all, more. Every time we come through, I feel like we have a great conversation, and we try to unpack as much as we can, but there's so much in the vault to where, you know, y'all make me feel comfortable shit. I can sit back and know I'm around to you. Like we're doing round a round table.
Starting point is 00:59:46 You know what I'm saying? So we do this shit at the round table. So just to show people like kind of how this shit going, like the thought process of where we're trying to head. It's no different than the square, man. We all trying to get to the same place. We're all just doing different things to get there. It's my circle.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's my friends. You know what I'm saying? Every time we sit around, it's always good game because pimps, we always try to, hey, man, I got this for you. Hey, man, I got this for you. You never deny me, man. I just want to tell you.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I ain't never denied it. Hey, a lot of niggas talk shit about this man. This man is one of the realest motherfuckers, you know, and Virgil can vouch for that. Oh, ain't no doubt. Man, every time I call this man, he picks up. It's a family right here. It's a family.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah, we're a family, man. And, you know, hey, man, Sharp is doing exactly what I want young people do. I want somebody to carry the game on. You know what I'm 60, he's 79. You know, we're getting older. You know what I'm saying? Life is going on. And we need people like Sharp that keep the game sharp.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And that's one thing I like about Sharp is, you know, irrespective to what niggas may say about him or how you feel about him, man. And I don't know what it is because I really don't listen to the bullshit. But what I'm saying, though, if y'all really want to know what Pimp McKin was trying to teach you out
Starting point is 01:00:56 when I had the DVDs in my hand and I was out there, you know, helping my man Morrow out. That's what this was about to see. Rest of peace, Maroy. Millions like us doing big shit like this. He would have loved his shit. Yeah, he would have loved his shit.
Starting point is 01:01:10 You are the example of what. You are the example of when I started years ago when all the pimps was laughing at me telling us, oh, you're selling DVDs now. And I said, man, guess what, though? You know, now you got Ralo the Pimp. You got Rous to the Pimp. You got everybody rapping. You got everybody opening businesses.
Starting point is 01:01:27 You got everybody making movies. So, hey, man, look, this is what the game looked like. This is what Real Pippen look like. It's a business. You know what I'm saying? Anybody can control, anybody can control seven, eight bitches. I had 16 that one. Anybody control 16 business can control.
Starting point is 01:01:40 can control a Fortune 500 company. Well, you know, you beat me out and that nigga Rowe beat me a. See, y'all niggins starting to tell the truth. But you know what, though? Hey, man, you know, these niggins, man, these niggins are fucked up. My little 16 bitches
Starting point is 01:01:54 a pop-off, man, you know what I'm saying? But it's good. You deserve it, though. Look at you, though. You're the man. I'm reflecting this shit for 60, 61 years straight now. Six decades.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He ain't never had a job, ain't never had nothing. Ain't never had a job, ain't never got a paycheck. You had a job? You had a job? Well, you know. That was a job, you think that ain't no job?
Starting point is 01:02:13 That was just business. That's the job. That's what I'm telling you. You know, I always, always gave instructions. I never did nothing. A job is like hand-to-hand comeback to be. You know, I always gave instructions. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:27 So, yeah, I always see, a job to me is always fun. Everything I did I made fun out of it. It would never know work, you know. Yeah. I say you never. I love what I do. You got to love what you do. You got to love what you do for it.
Starting point is 01:02:42 but you're not feeling like. When you love what you do, you become great at it. Real shit. Labor of love, baby. I'm still flexing mind, man. I'm taking donation. I ain't taking no off the track of nothing, but I'll take a donation, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:54 because I'm getting, I'm in politics now. So I got the 5013, what you call that shit? 511C2. Yeah, I'm getting all that shit together. So I'm going to be getting donations all those words. Well, you know, I ain't donation like a donation. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:09 So I'm working on that right now. You know, all this. It's all a bunch of fun, you know, but it's serious business with me now, you know. I've got more in the back of me than I got in front of me, so I've got everything got to count, you know. And I'm here representing a hip-hop fraternity. You know, I'm really helping the kids. Sharp know my real passion, man, you know, I deal with a lot of, I got 10,000 members. We've got 35 states.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I got my own podcast now. It's called View for the Game. I just interviewed him. Hopefully Sharper give me an interview. I interviewed a feel more slim last night. So, you know, we just, you know, we just wanted, you know, you know, we just wanted, you know, You know, with Sharp is doing, we want to continue. You know, you got a million dollars of a gain.
Starting point is 01:03:47 You got a drink chance. All these other things. We need our own. We need something for ourselves, too, you know what I'm saying? So when Sharp want to go and promote something, he want to promote them slick jeans you got on or this stuff you got, hey, man, we can take turns going and passing a buck, you know what I'm saying, going on your show, my show.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And that's what it's all about. You know what I mean? That's what Coca-Cola. I always listen to me. I don't fuck with everybody, but for the game, I owe it, and I'll always share that. at you all at any call, at any phone call. That's why you say, man, shit, I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:04:16 You know, I'm busy. You know I'm going to get back. Yeah, you always get back. You always get back. Sure, we got some stuff we never completed, too. Yeah. Yeah. Movie.
Starting point is 01:04:25 We got to do that, yeah. That movie. That movie would have been crazy, you know. Shout out to Nathaniel Gray. Yeah, he called me last night, too. I see he been reaching out to me, and I feel like, yeah, we need to sit down and we need to get it, package it up. Yeah, yeah, for real.
Starting point is 01:04:39 You know, they're working on my movie now, too. just to be an added addition, you know. Oh, yeah, I was telling Sharp, I sent them, yeah, Boosie movie is out coming out on Tooby, the Making the Arborative of Celebrity. I mean, get you and him, y'all close. Yeah, yeah, Boosey, so we did the book deal, and we also doing the movie,
Starting point is 01:04:56 then I'm doing Rick Ross's movie as well, and I'm doing an ICT movie. That's what Spike was over here for, so I'm doing, it's called a Docuice, it's called the Making an Autobography of a Celebrity. So every time we do the book, I document it, and then we do it into it. And I would love to have you in Ice Tea
Starting point is 01:05:11 and Rick Ross project just to say you love the book or something. He did, we just got through Fem and Him. So, you know, we're doing a lot of positive things like that. You know what I'm with you. You know, power, to me, power comes in unity, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:27 The more we're on the same page, the more together, it creates a better image and better impact on everything. Yeah. Of what we've been through and what we've done. I agree with that one. Man, sharp don't be minded me. We just need some real ones.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I don't mind me. He's not got diarrhea in the mouth I took a whole lot of shit. No, because you know, I'm going to tell you this. Like, you know, because I've been around, you know, real pimps in my time so you know, a real pimp tongue going to be a sharp tongue, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:56 so you got to be able to stand the impact shit. A lot of niggas don't even know how to take a chopping. Nicky might come up and choppy. You know, you got to know how to chop back and make shit that's on you, you know. He might talk about you, you call whatever you ride. Now I always say,
Starting point is 01:06:10 take that shit as most. motivation. Chopping back. Chop back. Take it as motivation. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Get pimping, man. Get pimping, man. Get to where you got to get it. See, one thing about everything worked for you. Everything work for you. It may not work for me. Yeah. Everybody got their own lane. No, man. Hey, man, a, pimp is in the pimp world as him and his holes.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Right. And niggas got to understand that. Lone. Lone. Lever at the top. Did you pin for a nigga? Did you pin for the bitch? I always. I always picked in my word because let me tell you something. Right out of that. Yeah, I like that. Hey, sharp, every time I'm doing good, you know what they say?
Starting point is 01:06:45 That nigga got some work. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he's making deals with a hole. If I'm fucked up, oh, man, they wouldn't ever pimping. So no matter what, they got, you know, I say this, and a lot of nigs don't take this the wrong way. You join the pimper, and you join the hate club. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Because with pimping again, friendship ends. Because say, for example, if I'm going to knock him for a bitch, if he might have to beat through the bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If he got a blonde blue eye, all almighty, almighty whitey, you know what I'm saying? She's checking it like the house on fire, and the bitch gets me the motherfucker trap. I got to serve him.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I got to serve him. I got to give him the news and blow his shoes and put his hope under some new rules. It's going down. You know what I'm saying? Now, he may not like it, but you know what I'm saying? Depending on how many pimp bones
Starting point is 01:07:25 he got his bite. Now, if he ain't got a pimpone on his body, I can take him to the Pirate State Building and throw him off and he's going to spice like jello so he hit the ground. Well, pimp a kid and what they always say. You get knocked. You get knocked for a bitch.
Starting point is 01:07:36 You get knocked for a bitch. But you know what? But you know what? You know what? Sometimes, man, you know, if a nigga, like he... That's what they say. Like, Virgil, let me say that. Why not?
Starting point is 01:07:45 So, a lot of times, man, if it didn't get... It all the pins on the pimps. I don't agree with that. Hey, Virgil, if a bitch of a bitch that's a bitch that left behind a bitch, he's having to fire. Hey, because I'm hard to talk, man. I want to say, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man.
Starting point is 01:08:01 When the bitch gets to get the jist's a man, she I want that schism, man. I don't like to say this, but I ain't never been not clean. And I've been 11 deep, two, three times, seven deep, three deep, one deep. I've been 19 deep. I ain't never been not clean. I'd have some bitch to run off and get with somebody, but I ain't never been not clean. You're talking about where he just actually peeled the bitch off the blade. The bitch was making a mad move.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah, I ain't know. I never had to make a man. A man choose. A man choose. But the front page, come in the front page and look at it and say, you've been served? No. Hey, you know what? Man, that's what I used to do, man.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Hey, hey, make some things about me in New York But you know, I used to do I used to go to the newsstand You get a Wall Street Journal And go give me a banana And put the banana and say, niggas in the news You've been pilled for the bitch
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah, let's think about this, right? How the average man, the strongest man in the world Couldn't accept another man calling him right early in the morning And saying he got your bitch Hey, but you know, I saw your ass with a helicopter Yeah, hey. Niggins don't even know, hey.
Starting point is 01:09:02 The strongest man That's throw up in the corner. He ain't going to tell anybody, Sorry, and the nigger McGilliger brother. Oh, yeah. I saw the nigger from a helicopter from email. Like, got the bitch. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:14 All depends on who it is. You know, I get the notification. But see, I disagree. Yeah, why did you disagree with what he said earlier? About what? You want to go back to that? Yeah, about the situation, because you was like everybody got a, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:30 different, you know, you was like. With all the opinions. See, what did he disagree with? I got to know. I got to know because I got to know. I might want to rebuttal. That's why I'm trying to go back. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 You know, me, man, I got to stand up. We're moving some fast. We're on the fair track right now. Yeah, yeah. See, I don't do that, man. But, uh-huh. With it. He called with it.
Starting point is 01:09:46 He called me a host, man. Damn, I damn they lost a train. See, that's what I'm saying. See, that's why I'm saying. They call him shot for a reason, man. No, you know, because you was like you don't agree with, you know, you ain't pippin until you've been not clean. No, I don't mean that.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And you said, I've never been not clean before, you know. I'm on track here. We're good. I got us. Because I've been down since 1963. I've never stopped having a host to recently. And I've been deep and I've been to keep them on that front line. So you ain't never got a phone call?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Never. Not, not clean. No courtesy call, no nothing. Not clean. Since 63. Since 63. What's not clean? What would you consider not clean?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Get the phone call here, man. I got the bitch. Yeah. I ain't never got a call like that. Now, I don't have some dishes that run off jealous, be having so deep in love and all the old kinds. That's amazing, man. Just be gone for four, five days or something, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:41 and what a bitch you're adding, you don't know. The sink version, I would have enjoyed knocking you, man. I didn't have to be waiting to get your motherfucking ass that phone car. That nigga ain't never been talking. You never got a call. Yeah, man, break some place on that home man. That whole don't eat that more, man. It wasn't about a day to the flow, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll give you two balls and more. You got to keep your throat wet, man. You're gonna need it, man. When I get that, bitch, man. I'm not saying, I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna have it, man. Got to have the home, man.
Starting point is 01:11:10 You know, I love you, man. I'm gonna talk to you, but you know what we got. That's what time it was and knock. I don't knock the minute. I was a knock all this. I don't knock the minute. Man, you can knock a bitch by just
Starting point is 01:11:20 wide, drive, up and down. No, no, no, no. I ain't never caught on the car. None of that shit. I don't believe. I don't believe. I sit here in this power while we do it, man, you know, this Pimp circle.
Starting point is 01:11:30 and you say you ain't never been not in all your years. I'd have four, five bitches that go off. You ain't never got a phone call. I have had that. Okay, well, I ain't never been not clean. Let's do the test. If there's any bitch out there that never fuck with Virgil and chose another pill. Hey, uh, his shock and shock.
Starting point is 01:11:48 How old he'll fuck with the bitch sucking on her dentures right now. Bring your ass on through. You're going to figure this out. They ain't going to happen. Ain't going to happen. And I'm going to. If we're going to shine some light on what, you know, being knocked, you know, and having been served. You know, last time I checked, you know, when a PIP would serve you, you know, for a bitch, you know, y'all would come meet up, have a drink.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yeah, exactly. The nigga had tell you the bitch bad traits or, you know, shit to just look out for, man, because, you know, pimpses will look out like that. Now the nigga can't wait until you fall or he catches a sad shit. You know what I'm saying? And once he catches a sad shit, he tried to use it against you and Dirty Mac to get the bitch back. You know, it'd be some funny shit instead of just pimping clean. Now, that's what I do believe in.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Hey, man, pimped clean. Don't dirty Mac. I ain't never believed in talking bad about the next nigga, wishing bad on the next nigga because you never know, man, shit. The bitch always going to double back, man. Every time a nigga knock me, I say, man, keep the bitch down 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Give me action at the home. Oh, I've been around. You give me action at the bitch. Make sure that you know you was a clean knot. You would have got you. The news that you couldn't use of a century. You would have been like, you know, Hey, but you know what you got me, no, Sha.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I'd be so happy that the bitch got with a real Pimp. He knocked me. I'm trying, I'm kind of glad. Puerto Rican looking, I think. I'm kind of glad. That's how you're going to stay. Puerto Rico, black and white. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:13:09 There's only one thing, though, Sean. Once you knock me, I'm in your, I'm in your business for life, man. I'm a follow you everywhere you go, try to get them home, man. Yeah. It's the only way you can ever get the nigg. It's war, man. It's war. It's all the way you can ever get to a nigga.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And that's really our cryptonite. Right. You may constantly knocking a nigga. Don't you know that don't. Don't you know that show. I'm gonna have about five bitches that ran off from me and got with somebody else, but it was later on.
Starting point is 01:13:35 But definitely the still should have called you, and I'm gonna tell you why. Hold on, hold on, hold on, let me tell you why. This is why, this is how I go. If a bitch of mine, I can't find this bitch in 24 hours, I'm calling the police station, calling the motherfucker's hospital, I'm calling everywhere,
Starting point is 01:13:50 I'm calling mental, the silence, everything, trying to find this hole. And then she got with another pimp, right? Then, you understand me? To me, it may not be a servant as we call a servant. He probably ain't serving you. But as far as I'm concerned,
Starting point is 01:14:03 the last pimp that all was with was Virgil. That's still, in my eyes, that's still your hold. Now, if that nigger didn't call you, but hold on, hold on. If he didn't call you, Virgil, he missed pimping. Well, let me tell me. Because the reason why the reason they never call you because it was Miss Pippenman,
Starting point is 01:14:17 even though that bitch ain't been with you for a while. He's supposed to call the last pimp that I was with me. Let me back a couple of minutes. Let me back a couple of a minute. Let me rephrase that. See, when I call it a knock it, it's for 24 hours, straight off the track. That's what I call to call. On the bitch be gone on a month or two, and then I get a call.
Starting point is 01:14:35 I have got some calls on a Monday two. I said, what you calling me for? On the mic. I said, what you call to call? I said, what you call to hey, my bitch no more. So you got this call? Yeah, I did get a call. That's why I said, let me back up.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Okay, so. But what I call on a knock. That's what I'm going to get out of you. We just want to get that out of you. Yeah, I did get that. Now, me, I would call you 24 seconds. Yeah, that I'm saying. I got Borgia?
Starting point is 01:14:55 I got Mr. Maynard? The Grandmaster! They're going to call their pay, man. Yeah, man. Guess who I appealed today, man? Because it's fun. You know what?
Starting point is 01:15:03 Right? I didn't got a call about two, three months later. Maybe five months. Got the bitch run off. That nigg was Miss Pivin, man. But no, no, he didn't have the bitch then. He ran up.
Starting point is 01:15:14 He still missed Pibbon. He ran up on the bitch. But when he finally won't get permission to come sit the bitch down, I say, man, for you, because I like it, I'm going to let you ahead. bitch and sit her back down here. All you got to send this bitch, you're going to get paid because she's up under my pet, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Man, that man started getting so much money. He's going around and tell everybody, he's not me. But you know, that's the fun part, though. But check this out, though. Let me tell you that person. Let me tell you the rest. He went around all over town. I said, man, I'm in the house.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I just bought a $110,000 out of home, you know, swimming pool, everything laid out, you know. I'm laying around. I just enjoying the home. I ain't anything to go out right now, you know. And I say, if you say my name one more time, I'm going to knock you for everybody. And I'm trying for everybody. He didn't have no bitches.
Starting point is 01:16:02 It's a main bitch of everybody. That's the fun part. That's what I'm talking about. Knock me, please knock me. It's not getting your motherfucking business. And when I get in your business, it's going to be like, hey, when I get your business, I'm a huff, and I'm going to puff. And I'm going to blow that strong house down.
Starting point is 01:16:17 You all you're talking about, yeah, bitch. It's a real big old pimper in the house down. Ain't that any biddy committee, shit on, you know what I'm saying? And the home don't know. And the PIP's going to know. Now, I'm about 13 deep at this time, I think, from 11 to 13. I had another bra get jealous because my main bra that's really kicking it up. I had a turnout with me.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I was one deep, and I end up being like 13 deep in about 10 days. She jealous and mad because the whole putting poison in. So my main bra will come back. I haven't had about six, seven years. Man, this bra is. run off, I don't know what she had. I swear if she didn't chose somebody, you know, I just figured out who she might have chose.
Starting point is 01:17:00 You don't already figure about who a brawl might get with. Yeah. Man, I don't never get the call for about three weeks. Maybe a month. They probably scared to call you, but. They were scared to call. You're a giant, man. And I say, I say, man, I say, I say, man, you know, I've been looking for this.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I'm going to let him have a bitch. Because, man, I'm deep. I'm going to let him have a bitch. But since you took so long the call, you've been to rules. So the bitch can't hit the track until she'll come see me. So man, he got a Chinese bitch. He got a Mexican bitch and got a fine motherfuck and black bitch that I had. So he's scared of sin it just like he just said.
Starting point is 01:17:40 So man, about two wins goodbye. I said, I'm going to press him. So he says, out of line. I'm going to show him how his pepper let it go. I said, I'm going to run all them holes off he got. So finally, he said, okay, I'm going to bring the bitch to you. you. He brought the bitch to me. So I opened
Starting point is 01:17:59 the dough. He was coming in with the bitch. I say just the bitch. I, not you, just the bitch. I closed the door in his face. And I pipsed on the bitch. And man, he ended up losing everybody. And it ain't both of them dudes. As he should. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:15 both of them do. Because he ain't no picking at all. Both of them. But that niggas brain the whole, nigga, no, I ain't breaking you the whole version. You got to come piff for this bitch, man. The bitch is down there. The bitch on international. the bulletin right there. The bitch on Cap Street, man.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Go pimp on that whole, man. I ain't delivered. No bitch to no pimp. Because, you understand me? I'm not the delivery boy. You understand me? I'm the pimp, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:35 You got to pimp for this, man. Get the bitch, man. Get the bitch, man. I'm just pushing. I'm just pushing all this. Hey, look, this is the only show I got an asshole because I know I'm going to show that comes from the game.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Nobody else show. You won't catch me on no show like that. God, I know every motherfucking pimper in the whole in the country. I ain't saying I had no, I hate nobody doing it like we doing it right here. I had some out of pocket pieces. I agree with that. But you know, just serve me clean off the track like that.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I ain't never had that. But Virgil, man, you know what? I want to say this man, because, you know, me and you real friends, right? Yeah, ain't no doubt. You are very classy, classy gentleman. And, you know, I believe that, you know, and me and Fillmore was talking about that, you know, Milton Peterson and you, y'all were a different level of players, you know what what I'm saying, me.
Starting point is 01:19:21 And, you know, a lot of... A lot of times, you know, if it was a term called Matt, you know what I think that you can hold that title, you know, in this entirety, with the pimping, you know what I'm saying? Milton Peters taught me years ago. There's two things he taught me I never got. You know, he's 18 years old than me, right?
Starting point is 01:19:37 We rode together every day. You told me every day. You told me that. Man, he said, you know, ain't nothing you got belonged to you. And I looked at him. I didn't understand what he was saying. I was young, you know. He said, nothing you got belonged to you.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah. And it took me years ago to figure that out. And he said, you know, we're not going to use the term Pimp. Because Pimp ain't nothing but a title. And I didn't understand. I didn't, wouldn't use the word, called me by my name for a long time. I got that from him. And he was a top flight.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Bad motherfucker, man. He was a MECD. Coles I ever seen. He was a Matt. And like Fillmore said, me and Philmore had the thing. We said, man, Virgil and Milton. to the nothing. They was max. They got their money however they can. But with me, right, I did so much time in the penitentiary. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I had I and
Starting point is 01:20:32 G, which I'm not going to send a bitch because I didn't want to go to jail. I feel like, hey man, Pippen, it's an elite gang. You know, it's the only game where you do use your brain. You know what I mean? Ain't no dope. Ain't no motherfucking watches or, you know, no guns and shit. It's just straight, you know, a mental game. So that's the reason why I subscribe to deter pimping because I refuse to do anything other than pimp. Now, you know what I'm saying? I would never just say at this stage that I'm a pimp because, you know, I get my money legitimately. I don't, you know, I have a young lady. I don't call her bitches and hoes. I don't do all that shit. You know what I'm saying? She gets millions. She get real money. You know,
Starting point is 01:21:10 I just showed her how to level up on another level. And I'm like, like Sharp said, in my real life, today I'm a gentleman, you know. I'm a gentleman. All my members, I have a lot of women's working for my organization. So you know what I'm saying? You know, I understand that. And I was a rare. Could nobody understand why did I sell DVDs or why I was doing movies?
Starting point is 01:21:29 Because when they showed pimps up, holes down, you know, Sharp, I said, it's over with me. I know you probably say the same thing. Like, damn, I can't do nothing to shit I used to do. You shock. You know, you sharp tank now. So that made me, you know, start being focused on more legitimate games.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And guess what? I am way more successful than I ever was in the game. That's good. Change is always good. You know, and so I understand, yo, because my daddy was like you. That's why I always say you reminded my daddy. My daddy had a lot of bitches, my daddy hustles. He did all kinds of shit, shoot craps.
Starting point is 01:21:58 And niggas would say the same thing. Johnny Slick ain't no pimp. Or Greasy ain't no pimp. Fooky Stokey ain't no pimp, but they had a whole bunch of hos though. Right. And he got a whole bunch of money. So you understand me, that's just the title, like you said. If you want the title, then use it.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Let me tell you something, man. I know so much about the game and so much about players and so much about my friends. because all my friends was players. Right. That's where I come from. Outside of that, squares, nothing. I didn't see, I didn't see no squares, man, for years
Starting point is 01:22:27 because I didn't know them about that. I got away from that, you know. Yeah, me too. But let me tell you something, man, I don't open up and shoot my oozy at no player because I'll be shooting it at myself. Right. But everybody don't have that same view.
Starting point is 01:22:41 It's all up under one umbrella for us. We don't let people outside that understand us. Nobody understand a pimp, but a pimp in a hole. Right. You know, and it's a lot of guys, man, can talk better than that King Colesang. And they can say your dreams. Just like they said, I'm holding their cell players' dreams, too. I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:22:59 You just can't sell me, you can't pee on my face and tell me it's raining. Right, right. You don't make a fool like yourself. Right. Like to say in the movie, Denzel watching play, what's that movie? Training Day. No, that other one with the dope boy. they say
Starting point is 01:23:17 the one who got the loudest suit and here's the weakest one up in there Frank Louvreis I used to look at the one to come in there and do all the talking is the one that just I used to be the same way
Starting point is 01:23:30 as a youngster that's how we got out we talk right we fun and we turned to club out running our mouth squares like seeing that we entertain
Starting point is 01:23:39 yeah yeah and that's what we're doing it's entertainment we only show to entertain When they get down to real shit, once I've really started, really put my hand on some real, real money, I changed my whole attitude because I didn't have to say nothing. When I show up, you know what it is.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't run my mouth like that a lot. You know, all mine from the inside. People can't, they might say a lot of things, but if they don't know nothing about you, they're going to make something up on you. Well, you know, I run my business. I run my organization.
Starting point is 01:24:13 and I run my motherfucking mouth. Right. Because I get paid for running mine. I'm on 40 million records. So every nigga ain't qualified and they're going to reach this level of game. You have been on some crazy shit. I ain't allowed.
Starting point is 01:24:25 40 million 50s and all that shit. Everybody got their own. Yeah, they got their own thing. But what I'm saying, I run my mouth. I run my business. Well, Ken, nobody beat you doing that, Ken. No, I'm the best to ever did it. I mean, I didn't try.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It's entertaining. It's entertaining. Hey, man. Hey, man, they arm's too short to box with the people guys, man. That's how I came up. That's how I came up. I changed my whole lifestyle
Starting point is 01:24:47 because where I come from, I'm always above level to all my peers. I have more money. I have more everything than them. And I learned how to be, like I said, a gentleman. Yeah, we are genuine. And action become habits. You know, if you don't use it, you'll lose it.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I like to talk shit, swat and spit, man. I, listen, I, I mean, used to them, man, man, I would talk me. But I was young. You ain't met me, verse. But, no. I was trying to run it to you back there. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:25:16 but now, I'm talking about shit, you're going to put me out of business, man. I would have never got on a little job and I'm doing sure to have a 50-cent-hour.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I'm going to tell you some. I still like seeing it. I still like seeing it. You know, it's entertaining to me too. Yeah. It's just that I don't do it. You know.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Hey, man, but you know, this is going to be a million views, boy. They're going to see you now. You can pull it up, they're going to look at this, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Look at this. Hey, man. It's my favorite me, man. Oh, which one? That one there? Ain't nothing fake about this shit. Oh, no. Anybody say this shit fake?
Starting point is 01:25:47 You know, say that means that you're hating. Shit, that's 100,000 at me right there. Yeah. Man, that shit, man. But anyway, y'all, that shit is ridiculous. I just been, when I come up to all my peers, man, I just, out. I never said nothing. They always looked at me and guessed on everything, but nobody never seen me do nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:05 They didn't even see my holes on the track. They didn't know who they were because I didn't ride through the track hauling. I sent them. I didn't take them. You're a giant, man. Yeah. I always sent them. I never took them.
Starting point is 01:26:13 They ain't never seen me going to drop a hole off on the track. I see them. I had private taxi cab drivers and everything. Love me to death. Big old pretty homes, all this.
Starting point is 01:26:22 That's how well when I was young. That's what I'm accustomed to, you know. That's why I got to stick by the strip, you know. I don't know another way. I don't want to make my family look bad. Well, if I see me on Skid Row,
Starting point is 01:26:32 you go, man, that old nigga that used to be this and that and ain't that no more. Look at him now. Man, they used to ride through, man, to see them dudes like that there. Man, I say, I'm not going to never be like that.
Starting point is 01:26:42 You tell him, that dude right there used to be this and there. He used to be this and there. And now he'd been all over. He used to be great. I said, that's what helped me. I said, I wasn't going to never accept that. That's what help me to where I'm at today. That's my drive too.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah. I said, because I know what they expect us to be. Exactly, yeah. When we first started talking, what I'd tell you? I said, I said, I said, Virgil, I don't ever want to be a what? A bum. Remember I told you that? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Exactly, yeah. I told you that. But that helped, that gave me strength, man. And not to fall, by the way. I fight so hard. I'm like, Alain Frazier, I fight so hard when you got me in that 15 round to try to win.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Man, you're 79 years old. It ain't going to happen, man. You're winning, man. You're going to win until we... Hey, man, listen, man, you ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere else. You're going to go anywhere else. Young bish is being my inbox trying to fucking me.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I'm scared to death. Man, there ain't nowhere in the world. I'll let you send me nowhere at this age. Man, I ain't going to never see daylight again. You can't. Hey, man, if you're doing the same thing at 60 that you did at 40, you didn't lost 20 years. Well, now, you know, see, this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Elevation is what I always looked at. Yes, sir. Safety is what I started looking at as I got older. Yeah, yes, sir. So instead of mine, get mine off the pavement, I get mine off the top shelf. Yeah. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Just elevate to what you do. Elevation, yeah. Elevate to what you know. Yeah, yeah. That's all it is, you know. Elevate to what you know. Instead of a bitch giving me 10 and 2, we started out of 10 and 2, y'all. We start out of 10 and 2, but I'm getting 6, 7, 8, you know, yeah, at the time.
Starting point is 01:28:14 You know what I'm saying? That's how I pick and choose. I don't let them choose me. I pick and choose. Hey, a bitch told me, said, did you got LLC? I said, no, bitch, I ain't limited hope, you know what I'm saying? That's just like, you know, when you go to the bank, and I want to say this is some free game to y'all. Y'all want to get a C corporation or S corporation.
Starting point is 01:28:31 You go to the bank and you say you're LLC. What happens is the bank said that you're limited. So if you see a pretty bitch, she got some pretty blind hair, blue eyes, you know, big old And she said, I want to be with you, but I'm limited. I don't do no sex. I don't, you can't play with my titties. What you're going to say, I ain't trying to fuck with that bitch. Well, that's why you don't want to be limited.
Starting point is 01:28:48 You want to be corporate. You want to have an S corporation, C corporation. Then other of that, you want to have subsidiaries. This here is a clothing line as a subsidiary. My, my, uh, my, uh, my, uh, the hipoperatorian.com, my social media is a subsidiary. HHF radio is a subsidiary. HHF films is a subsidiary. And now I could go borrow from each one of those.
Starting point is 01:29:09 down in Bradstreet and get millions. That's the same thing Howard Shores did with Starbucks. He borrowed a million dollars and a billion dollars off each one of them companies and he was able to get money to move into Silicon Valley. So y'all got to step to y'all game up. So when we talk about Pippin, we're talking about Pippin. I told Sharp all the time, my DVD is my bitch.
Starting point is 01:29:29 You know what I'm saying? My movies is my bitch. Those are my holes. They don't argue, they don't fight. Virgil Cain knock them. Virgil Cain knock them. With all that jury, he can't get that. He ain't gonna get that pymology hole.
Starting point is 01:29:41 He ain't gonna get that American on the human chest bitch. But he can't get that blonde hair blue-out white kids, though, man. You know, you ain't got to worry about me and they ain't got to fuck with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got to have it.
Starting point is 01:29:52 For me to fuck with me. They got to have it. Yeah. Me too, me too. Because you ain't, you ain't going to jail. That's backwards. But you just insinuated that if this man still had
Starting point is 01:30:01 holes, they wouldn't have enough money to fuck with you. No, no, no, no. No. You know why? Because my bitch is being spaces They can't understand that shit up here, man. That shit, they're trying to be, oh, what's going on up there, man?
Starting point is 01:30:14 What's out of it, man? Hey, man, these earthlings came fuck with the motherfuckin' this extraterrestrial pivot, man. Yeah, man, that's an old-done level of pippin, man. Yeah, man, man, you want you know what to do with the hoaxe for Mars, man, man. Man, mad, the niggas t' bitch from Mars, man, he can't even take a bitch for Mars, man,
Starting point is 01:30:28 he can't even take to... He can't even take the bitch to the beach, man. He can't take the bitch to the higher. He can't take the bitch to the motherfucker-heck They didn't take the bitch to the motherfucking of the social club. Fuck with my picture, man. My home's so high in the sky, man. They got, that pivot is so elevated, man, man.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Can't even reach him. You got to pray to get to my bitch. How far up are you into having, bitch? The fucking pit again, man. Come on Virgil, man. We're going to shut the door, man. Hey, hey. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:30:57 He never popped back. On real side. I'm talking back, man. I wish she would have been around when I was acting like him. Could I just act just like that? Yeah. I said, you don't use, you lose. I'm going to be honest with you, though.
Starting point is 01:31:07 But what we were saying earlier, before we get out of year, chopin's always made a pimp better. Yeah. It's like these type of comments. You make the three names. Hey, you make me better. You make me too. Hey, y'all, make sure y'all subscribe,
Starting point is 01:31:23 life and motherfucking, what they say, comment, right? Yeah, for sure. Hey, and make sure y' y'all go to Pip and Ken, YouTube and watch my show, View for the Game. I'm going to have my man. You got pipa kin. Now, no, it's pipa kid.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Just go to YouTube. Don't got Pipa Ken. And just type Pipa Ken and just watch View for the Game. They can see all me interviewing all the niggas from the streets. You're hustling, motherfuckers. I know what I'm asking. You still got Pipbikil. Man, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you some whole ass shit, right?
Starting point is 01:31:49 So, man, listen. Hey, man, there's no more shit, Shau. This is a real game, right? So I got an email, right? Yeah. That I did, none for social media, right? Yeah, I got an email that I do for you on my business, right? So, what's the people call?
Starting point is 01:32:05 YouTube, they hit me up. You can't use this music on here and this and that other. And the other people, what's their name? And the other people, what they call it? They said, Go Daddy. Your time is due. So I'm not thinking.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I bought this shit for 10 years. Because I had a, you know, I had a PIPA KIN dot net in 2000 for a nigga even though the internet was. I bit up on this shit. You know what I'm saying? I was doing selling PIP classes, you know what I said, back in 2000.
Starting point is 01:32:29 So these nigs is late. You know what I'm saying? I had a PIPA kid. radio show in 2002. I had a podcast in 2003. I've been doing this shit a long time. So I didn't look and check the email in the 10 years I didn't even know.
Starting point is 01:32:42 And next day I know I'm looking working on my page and the motherfucker. I said, damn. Man, I fucking lost it, man, just from being, you know, not aware that it was on that thing. Like I told you down in Atlanta, I admire what you doing.
Starting point is 01:32:55 That's the reason why I'll come on in with it, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, he came to spot. Let me say that. Let me say that. Can I please say this. Tell him what you did. He came in.
Starting point is 01:33:03 My organization, there was about three, four hundred people there, he spoke to my organization to the kids. So I appreciate you for doing that. Yeah, they all was liking it too. They just, and then I made your partner that had the club, what is the Italian guy? Oh yeah, oh, a king of diamonds, the, yeah, he was like a king. Yeah, he feels like a king. Man, it has come up.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He's still in touch with me right now. Yeah, the owner, one of the owners, yeah. Get with Big Virgil, Grand Master, IG, Ray Fils, Facebook. Look for my new film that's out on Shine TV called The Grand Master. You got the book
Starting point is 01:33:43 from the inside out and death is not a game. Ken, gonna make sure I'm all right with it because I'm gonna shove them to him before he gets up by it. Then we got a familiar lie on TV and Baby in the Hood
Starting point is 01:33:55 and get ready for my new movie that's in process right now and get ready to see me in the politics world real shortly. And also, we miss Christmas. Hey, we miss Christmas.
Starting point is 01:34:09 So if y'all come next Christmas, if y'all see a big old fat white man and he said, ho-ho, oh, bitch, it's jump in the bag. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:34:18 You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm all bad bitches for Christmas. You know what I'm saying? You can also find me a real Pimpkin underscore and I'm telling you, go to YouTube's type in Pimp and Ken
Starting point is 01:34:28 and come over there and folk with the view for the game. I'm telling you my man Sharp is going to be on there. My man Virgil, my son's the Great Supreme, Cache, Jet Boy, Cash. Hey, man, it's a family affair, man. And, brother, thank you for having us once again. One other things.
Starting point is 01:34:42 When you come, I know you come to Sacramento City. You come to Sacramento City and bring everybody in. Okay. I got the restaurant, got all the food that you want. It's on me. Yeah, Ox Tales? I'm going to night. I'm coming down there.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Big Ninis. That's the name of it. It's on Magrode. Let me know before you, before you're going back to see. Hipopaternity.com. Okay, for sure. And I'm coming to the next joint. Okay, so, hey, come, come, come.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Man, don't do that, no. He do that shit all the time. See, he always tried to call me slick, but this time I caught his ass. He tried to do it to me last time. No, no, no. I would try to be slick, but. It's my guy. I love him to death, Supreme.
Starting point is 01:35:22 You already know, man, we're gonna do some, hey, let me do this content shit. He don't, he understand the game and a lot of, I got this part of it. Okay, all right. I got you. You'll thank me. later. Yeah, thank you. You'll take me later.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Trust me, you'll see the whole vision there. You'll be like, Sharpe, I see the vision. I see why you did what you did. Okay. No, man, I'm having fun, man. That's why I just want to keep coming back. Yeah, yeah. Virgil you too.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Oh, no doubt. No doubt. It'll be cold, man, because it's a lot of game. Like, we ain't even, even though we have a time, like we ain't even touched the, you know what I'm saying. Like we're just getting into it, you know, and really shining some light because there's a lot of issues in the game, a lot of things that need to be. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:02 be addressed. And, you know, just even watching y'all bring two different perspectives to what people need to see that. Oh, yeah. My input as well, it all makes for a beautiful thing, man. It all raises awareness. And we ain't faking because we did the same thing in this interview. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 On my podcast, A View from the Game. Right. I challenge him about the hustling. I challenged him all that. He gave me his perspective, you know, same thing will feel more. That's one. I'm just like you sharp. I'm an older version of you.
Starting point is 01:36:30 I'm going to challenge the game. I'm going to bring the back. I'm gonna make it fun for the viewers. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I believe in. Let me tell them this. And I ain't never dealt no drugs. Y'all can stop saying that shit.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Anybody saying that shit is just like snitching because you don't, drugs are failing. Money is legal. So y'all got to stop saying that shit out your mouth and you're telling on yourself. I've been a penitentiary done 10 years and I ain't never been told on nobody. I wrote my own beef.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I'm still strong all these years. How many of you can do it? And the truth needs those. Like I saw was the crack between the back. Hey! Yeah, Bench, you're saying, you better stay away with me. Oh, you're going to be sniffing your booty, ho.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You know what I'm talking about? All these silent snitches, right, they're talking with somebody and done. No, I didn't get you dog. Listen, man, why you do this to me, Sean? We just sitting back going down memories. But you made the pimper out of me, man. Man, we just going down.
Starting point is 01:37:25 I love you, man. You're my little nigger, man. I love you. That's what it's about. Yeah. I appreciate you. Man, Master Virgil. Right on.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you both for coming and sit down. You know, shit, y'all called me last minute, but shit for my friends that I know that it really came from some of these shit, I'm always going to make sure I open up the dog. You hear me? Sharp tank. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:37:50 I got some other stories I haven't told yet either. So get ready for it. Yeah, we're going to bring you back. Now, I'll bring you both back. I think we got a lot of work to do. I think this is just... I want to come back with Virgil. I think, yeah, me and you and Virgil,
Starting point is 01:38:01 I think we do something great, man, and I hope, you know, we can open up the third eye to the viewer of what they might think life or even the game may even be. Right, right. Now, he got a lot of businesses. I got a lot of business. Of course.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I can teach him about corporations and credit. Everybody sitting here was a United States senator at one point in time of the game. You know, me being the youngest, you know, and I pay my homage and my respect, man, to my forefathers. And, man, you know. How old you, I'm 36. That is it. Got in the game, man.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Got in the game, man. I was 14, 15 years old. You're so wise. I'd be thinking that. Shit, you beat me out. I was 17. I mean, you know. This is a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:38:38 36. Damn. I've been knowing me for many years. But that's when you... That's when you're really seasoned. That's when you're really seasoned at that age. Yeah. 36, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Most definitely. Most definitely. I was 30. You were 30? You're seasoned at 30. Seasoned at 30. And, you know, man, I changed my life. You know.
Starting point is 01:38:57 It's a real werewolf then. There's a real werewolf then. You know, when people say their ages, I go all the way back to how old I was and what I was doing, you know. When I was 21 years old, I was like seven deep, had two brand new Cadillacs. But, you know, back then during that time,
Starting point is 01:39:14 man, things was way different than it is now. Yeah. And if you're not my age to really understand what I'm saying, you're not going to understand it because somebody older have to tell you how it was. It was like, ooh, man. Yeah. And money, cars didn't cost that much back then.
Starting point is 01:39:31 either though. My first cat didn't call with $1,500. Brand new. No, it was about three years old, maybe two years old. $1,500. That's doing good.
Starting point is 01:39:43 But check this out. Two years old, shit. But check this out. The next one was $7,500. It was brand new. 1972, $7,500. So, you know, it was kind of
Starting point is 01:39:55 easy back then, but look, them saying cars is $100,000 now. Yeah. So times was different, you know. Yeah. Shit, my first car, I stole that, motherfucker. I told the guy. But don't understand about it.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Hey, man. Hey, man, that's not going to do, though, man. I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Dude is. I ended up going to boys' school for that shit, too, man. They caught me my hands, man. But see, the only difference between then and now. You make more money now.
Starting point is 01:40:18 So it average to the same thing because $200 a lot of money back then. Yeah, well. $10,000 a lot of money back then. $4,000 a lot of money back in. So let me ask you quick. A million dollars back then really felt like a million dollar. Yeah, yeah. Virgin.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Virgil. You made a lot of money. of money, right? In your lateral years, but you made sufficient money in your beginning. Do you like, wouldn't it better in the beginning than it was as you started making a lot of money? I mean, because when I was making less money and I was just getting in the game, I had more fun. Once I started having money, man, it was about fun then. Yeah, yeah, it was about fun then. Yeah, it was just change. It was about fun then. But as you start elevating and start growing, you got more wiser, you know. Things got more serious. Yeah. So that's what make it what it is.
Starting point is 01:40:59 It's not, it's rough outside. It's not easy. My first 30 years was, my first 30 years was legacy. My last 30 years has been Dynasty. There you go. I'm trying to do something at the one great supreme. I'm trying to raise my son. My son, you know, my son acting out here.
Starting point is 01:41:14 You know him? Did I tell you about that? My son, Kenny Ivy. You ever see, what's that, what's that your brother in? All-American. That's my son number 14. He live out here. I'm in time in with you, man.
Starting point is 01:41:27 He's doing a lot of acting in professional. I'm telling you, man, we could go all day. That's why I would love to have y'all come back sooner than later, man, just to sit down, you know. Yeah, yeah. Chop go to game and give it to him, man. I'm going to seven o'clock the day, so you can cut it like you won't. Yeah, like, yeah, you know, I appreciate you both. I'm coming, man, and rocking with me.
Starting point is 01:41:48 And we're going to do it again. Pippa Kian, I know you ain't going to let up. I know it's got to run it, it's got to run its course. But what I love about Pippa Kinn is because every time me and him sit down, Even with you, Grandma's like everything that we've done, us three has done great. So to sit down and just to even kick shit with McKin and, you know, with you, Virgil, it's an honor, man. It's a true. So I appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I appreciate you. And we're going to catch up again. It's all love. It's all family. The Sharp Tank. No Jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And we out this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Hey, Mikey, shoot us out the motherfucker gym.

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