No Jumper - Poor Mans Podcast On Warlord Billionaires, Deplatforming, Fresh N Fit, & More

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

Flakko goes in depth with Poor Mans Podcast, about social media, beefs, and everything in between! https://www.instagram.com/the.poor.ma... --- 00:00 Intro 1:14 - Success, being consistent in working out 10:12 - Being to himself in high school, being hyper focused on improving himself and not chasing women 19:37 - Women being adapting to tolerating other women, woman on Instagram with 2 husbands 21:13 - Men becoming weaker, testosterone levels being lower than they’ve ever been, social stigmas about emotions in 27:22 - Having a friend who had a baby with a girl at 14yrs old, taking care of her and the baby and then finding out the baby wasn’t his 34:10 - How he went from podcasting to reactions and red pill content 44:16 - 30% of men at 30yrs old are v*rgins 52:36 - Companies do not do things because they care about women, they realize that feminism will make them more profitable 54:31 - Creators being banned off platforms 56:22 - Tech companies selling convenience to lazy people 58:56 - People having attitude of “so what” when it comes to creators being banned from platforms like YouTube etc 1:04:20 - Kanye wearing WLM shirt is a promo move for an album 1:11:20 - The pendulum for feminism 1:15:10 - Marriage laws being outdated, marriage being a bad bet 1:22:18 - What’s really considered gold digging, women not having the natural drive to compete 1:25:34 - Who should T women compete with 1:28:32 - Getting into the manosphere, podcast, being hands on doing things himself, thumbnails 1:32:31 -Flakko on spending 4k a month on bags for his girl while making 20k a month 1:35:05 - O’shea Jackson being a influence, him giving Kevin Samuels a platform 1:42:20 - Thoughts on pay for play, getting both sides of Aba & Preach x Fresh n fit arguement 1:50:25 - Kevin Samuels’ passing, women celebrating? 2:05:02 - The incarceration rate going down, waiting for black women to step up, not taking entertainment as reality 2:06:51 - Thoughts on Jordan Peterson, feeling like he’s necessary in these times, pro accountability, fixing the world by fixing yourself 2:08:25 - Feeling like men should be stoic, not letting your emotions show, women not caring about men's MH 2:11:30 - Being the forefront thought leader in the landscape right now, how he structures his videos in comparison to Fresh N Fit 2:14:38 - Having a disagreement with Fresh N fit over allegations against them, thinking that the police getting called to FNF was a sham 2:23:43 - Going back to making videos everyday, putting money inside incase of cancellation --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world, man. We're back again. First of it, yeah, this has been the, now, I'm going to say this, right? They know. I've never been more excited for an interview, right? Ever, like, ever. Okay, let's get it going. No, because it's past that, right?

Because, like, most dudes, I never got to watch their, like, progression, right? Most of them. Yeah. But it's the fact that I think we both started YouTube around the same time, right? and I was sub to you when I think you had about like 5,000 subs, right? Okay. And we were both like around the same thing,

but I think at that time I had about like a thousand, I think, and you had 5,000, right? So like, right? So I was always tapped in. And then one day I looked up and then you like had a video that hit like 100K. Yeah. And since that day, like you would post a video

at like 9 a.m. my time every morning from that point forward, right? And then you just took off. And I was like, yo, this dude really did it, right? And even like from that, right, like just watching you like climb, bro, I say, yo, I got to get on my is too, right? So, you know, so like nine months later, man, we're both sitting now in this room, man, after being distant strangers, man. But how do it feel, man, to finally make it?

I mean, I don't even know if I've made it. I'm going in some direction, hopefully it's up. But I don't know. It just feels like every day. It's just when you get used to doing something through discipline, It just becomes another day. And as you continue to challenge yourself, it becomes, you know, it's just part of it. So like, you go to the gym, you work out, you get a little stronger, and then you don't even

realize it because you're still pushing yourself to be stronger and stronger. So I wouldn't even really say that I made it, but it does feel good to be where I'm at. I will say that. Yeah, listen, my fat ass got to know, no, no like that feeling of going to the gym and. Yeah, you feel me? You got to go to the gym. I get stronger, man. Yeah.

I mean, you have to do it. It's just one of those things. have to do. And that's just part of it, doing things you have to do. Yeah. You know, right now we're in a spot where everybody's telling us to, especially as men, to do things that we want to do and what we might feel like doing. But that's not what it means to be a man. It's more about the responsibility and doing things you have to do. And it doesn't matter how you feel, you've got to go to the gym. Yeah. And just taking that step

alone, that first step saying, my body is in my own control. Like, if there's one thing you control in the whole planet is what you put into your body and is it. And if it's, and if it's, if you work out. So when you get control of that and you prove to yourself that you can continue to be consistent in one area, it can show in other avenues in life.

So, nah, yo, like, when he walked in, like, you're definitely more sturdy, like, in person. Like, you're like, I think it's because, like, you, like, sit down. Like, so, like, we,

like, don't get to see, see, like, the full frame, right? Yeah. Nah, yo, he's definitely like, listen, like, he's definitely talking that workout stuff because he truly embodies it, right?

Right. Like, you know, like, you're sturdy. But did you see the no jumper workoff vlog that like we just did? Or no? No, I never. I didn't see a workout. Oh, man, you're going to be in for a surprise.

Now, again, this was my first time back. So since then, I've been in a gym every day, right? But my first day back into the gym. So before COVID, I was ripped, jacked up, right? I'm talking about here. I will find you the picture, bro, right? I was a workout warrior, you feel what I mean, bro? I was looking like a rugby player, bro.

You feel what I'm? Yeah, right? I was jacked. And then what happened was during the pandemic, like halfway through, I stopped working out and started a YouTube channel and said, you know what, bro, I just got out of school. You know, like this career is, don't look like it's going nowhere. Let me start a YouTube.

And then once I got some success, I started making five, six YouTube videos a day, liked up in quarantine, eating my butt off, right? Yeah. But so I took about like two years off, and then the work of luck we just did, I went into the gym. Now, first off, how do you think I performed in the gym?

Do you think, again, if you were just assuming, do you think I got an A plus, A, B, C, D, or F? In what regard? Like, in terms of, were you lifting more? Yeah. In terms of, like, oh, I bet you did lift more, because usually when you gain more weight,

you can lift a little bit more weight, too. Sometimes, it depends. Yeah. But, yeah, I bet you lift more. But did you get on the treadmill, though? Yeah. Because that's where you find out. That's what the boys,

that's the difference between the boys and the men. Bro. At cardio session. Bro, listen. Like, that's the one thing I got to get, like, better at, it's like the running thing at treadmill, right? Yeah. But so we went into the gym and we first started off with the bench lifting.

Now the bench lifting, you know, sorry, bench pressing. Not bench lifting. Bench lifting. Now bench pressing, I'll be real, bro. I could have done better, right? Mm-hmm. I think I did two 25, seven times, right? Okay.

And I think Adam did it 10 times. So, so, so like he beat me. Oh, yeah, he's up right now. He feels like he's the man, yeah. But then the leg press happened. Now, you probably see me in person. These legs is huge, right? Yeah, so here's me before COVID.

Do you feel me? Oh, yeah, bro, you, yeah, you was in there. I'll tell you, bro, every day. Every day, right? You feel me? That YouTube take a toll, though. You try to make them videos every single day. I'd be feeling it too, but I'll be having to force myself literally to get up and go.

Exactly. And I think that's like part of it is just starting it. You know, and that's everything. Everything starting it is the hardest part. But when you just sitting there, you know you got to get up to go to the gym, getting up and getting there is the hardest part. And once you do that, you'll probably do the workout. Yo, bro, I'm, listen, like...

I have no excuse because my gym is in my apartment. Oh, yeah. You're all in there. I have no excuse. Now, but the leg press, I did 720 pounds. Oh, yeah, that's good. I think it was a place on each side, sold a 16 place total, and then deadlift, I deadlift did 350.

So since then, I'll be real, man. I might be, listen, I might be able to take you in the gym now, man, you feel me? What? In what? In what? Squat? No.

Because at 160, I was power cleaning 305. God damn. Yeah, I was, I'm a mom. stood in the jail. Yo, listen, speaking with that, so you just told me off air that you were a rugby player. Yeah.

Yeah. Wait, wait, first off, how did a black person get into rugby? Well, actually, rugby was collateral damage. Really, I played, I ran track throughout college. I graduated from University of Arkansas, Little Rock Division I College. And I was like five or six or seven time

All-American, something like that, a couple records in my bag. You're him. Yeah, well, I was, yeah, I was that guy. You're hemipathy. Yeah. And so, like, anything you need it done, one, two, four, I'm the guy to get on the line because even if I'm not the fastest guy, I'm going to give it my all. You know what I mean?

So when I, right after Nationals, I think it was like 2018 or something like that, I'm thinking to myself, look, I'm not going to go pro and track. I'm running about 104, 10.5. That ain't going to cut it. These guys are running 9-9-9-9. You know, you're saying boat records 9-5. Yeah. I ran D-1 track. You know, if you're going to be an All-American.

You got to be moving. So I was just looking at my options. And I'm a kind of guy where I believe in myself. So I'm going to go search for opportunities to try to find out what's next. If I realize that a path is closing for me, I'm not just going to sit there and wait for it to end and then go back groceries. I know guys that are running 10-1s, 10-2s, 10-3s that just decided to go back groceries. And if that's what you want to do, God bless you.

But that ain't what I wanted for myself. So I just looked into other opportunities and I've seen rugby. I've seen a video of rugby come across my page or on YouTube or something. And I was like, why not try that? So I made a list of the top 50 people that I needed to know in rugby, and I emailed every single one of those people. And I think that goes to show a lot about searching for opportunity when you are at a particular point of your life.

If you don't search for opportunity, you're not going to go anywhere. So I searched for the opportunity. I emailed all those people. Two people responded. I ended up in Colorado. I played for one summer. and then after three months of playing rugby I made the USA National Sevens team

So, yo, like you know What like I realize about just life in general That there are halfs and half-nots Right meaning like like It really don't matter what the industry is You know like most people usually have the same characteristics Meaning like for example you right Like even if it wasn't YouTube or whatnot

You would have been successful in something Just based off that drive of yo listen Like I'm doing try a fucking you know like You know like I Like I have foresight to no distracting, probably won't go too far. Let me find another avenue and you donated that much that you went to nationals? Yeah, because it's all about consistency.

Yeah. So, like, even when I got into rugby, I was like, okay, I've only been playing rugby for three months. If I want to catch up to these guys that got five, six, seven years of experience, if I train twice a day, I can get two days worth of workouts in in the same day. So I can catch up to them if I continue to do that. So I would literally work out sometimes three, four times a day trying to catch up to these guys that have more experience.

But it just comes from the consistency. And that's a measurement of success. If you're consistent in one area, like when I was running track, my coach, after practice, he had us all sit down. And we were talking about work ethic. And he pointed out five people on the team that he thought would be successful and every single one of us became successful. But it became, it was from the consistency.

And like, even when I talk to women and they're looking for guys and dating guys based on potential or whatnot, I say, is he the first one in and the last one to leave? Because if he wants to be a rapper and he's the first one in and the last one to leave, even if he doesn't become a rapper successfully, that consistency is going to go into other avenues of his life. And he's probably going to be successful as something. So it's just about being willing to have the discipline to do it every single day. And the thing about discipline is when you don't feel like it, but you're disciplined and you do what you feel like you're, you know, you follow your responsibilities. It doesn't matter how you feel that day. You'll still do your duties. You know what I mean? So I've just seen it as a duty. You know, listen, like, you were definitely that guy in, like, hair. So, like, in high school, right, there's that guy that you look at, and he just great at just everything, right? Like, you feel what I mean? Like, he'd get the host because he's good looking, right?

You know, he's a star athlete. Teachers love him because he's smart, right? Yeah. Were you just that guy? I would say, in all honesty, I was really to myself. So, like, I had a, I've always had a close group of friends. And because I am talented, I've always had people kind of, I've always attracted people because of the talent.

But, yeah, I've always kept a small group of friends and I've always been hyper-focused on myself and improving myself. And I think that was, like, a huge advantage over everybody else. I was never really chasing women, especially in high school. I was the kind of guy that was like, I'm not drinking, I'm not smoking, because I'm poor. We got on money.

Like, what are you celebrating? Whoa, whoa. But, bro, like, we've seen your woman, bro. Like, she's a baddie. Yeah, she's pretty. You bagged when you were, like, fucking 15 years old. Yeah, yeah. So you've been like that, though.

Yeah, so, yeah, well, I mean, I did what I needed to do at the time we was needed to be done, you know what? But after that was done, I felt like I'm going to get to the point where I want to marry this woman and take care of a family, and I can't do that if I had got no money. So the only way to do that is to focus on myself and try to become the best version of myself I could be. And that means not only just working out is mentally being strong, being able to defend, you know what I mean? like I'm taking MMA, doing all the things that you got to do to be a complete man. Oh, you're serious? God damn. M.M. That shit crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's like, we know the things we need to do. And like you see kids like young boys are addicted to video games because they know that you want to

build up a character. That's what the male archetype is. You want to start at the bottom and the best video games is you build up your character. Exactly. 2K. So we know what we need to do to become better, more competent men. It's just some guys don't choose to do it because it takes a little bit of work. Yeah. And getting the ball rolling, starting with the discipline, starting saying, hey, today I'm going to go to the gym. Tomorrow I'm going to go to the gym.

Next day, next day, next day, next day. It's just going to become a lifestyle. It's like brushing your teeth. When you wake up, you don't even think about brushing your teeth anymore because you've done it, hopefully. Absolutely. Hopefully. Hopefully.

Let's stay dirty out there. Yeah, I'm saying. But if you, if you brush your teeth every single day or taking a shower every single day, it just becomes a part of your daily routine. You don't even think about it. So that's the thing like with discipline, it makes things that are normally difficult become a part of your daily routine and life becomes easier when you

used to doing difficult things. Yeah. I'm like, if I could power clean 300 pounds, you ain't going to be able to tell me that I can't do something else, you know what I mean? Wait, so like you're from like Arkansas? No, I'm from Minnesota.

Oh, where? I'm a street dog, bro. I've been all over the place. I was born in North Carolina, moved to Minnesota. After that, went to school in Iowa, then went to school in Little Rock. High school in Iowa or high school Minnesota?

I did high school in. Minnesota. Oh wait. Now listen now I know a lot about Minnesota bro. What part? Well I'm from Fargo, North Dakota. Okay. So, like, we used to go to Minneapolis like three or four hours away to shop every day. So like...

Oh, Mall of America? Yeah. And ain't no clothes tax. That's a smart move in Minnesota there's no clothes tax. Yo, facts. So like you're from where, like, Minneapolis? Like, you like grew up in like Minneapolis or like St. Paul or where? No, I grew up in Winona. So it's like two years or two hours outside of the city.

Damn, that's like the country, right? Yeah, and it was probably one of the best things my mom could have ever done for me because the education system there was just, it was perfect. And there was no, there wasn't as much violence so you could focus on the things you needed to do. And that's what I liked. I liked the peaceful life. I'm not into the, yeah, so, yeah. The Negro shit.

Yeah, essentially. I ain't going to say that, but yeah, I don't really like all that because, you know, it builds a mentality of scarcity. But, yeah, two hours outside of. Wait, so a mom moved, so, was your dad there too? No, my dad, he was still in North Carolina. Wait, hold up. So, like, how did that, oh, hey, so like, tell me then, right? So did you eventually get to grow up in, like, a two-parent house or just one parent?

No, yeah. My mom met my stepdad when she moved up to Minnesota. And I am very happy about that because he taught me certain things when it comes to respect that you just have to know. Like, I remember a story in particular where he came in. He was like, he was eating or whatever. And I'm like, why is this guy eating our food? And he was like, I go to work every single day, I put this food on this table. And then making me call him sir and learning to, like, to, you know, say sir and ma'am as a sign of respect.

Those are things that, you know, you got to learn from a dad. So I'm happy my mom did find a person to be with too. And, you know, he had a family too. So I also got great stepbrothers. Yeah, I also got, if you're going to do it, I think that's the best way to do it. If you're going to be a man and you're going to be with a woman that already has kids, I think it's best that. You should already have kids as well. Exactly.

So it's a little bit more. balance. So, yeah. So I was raised by them and they did, I think they did a good job. We didn't have everything anytime we wanted, but my mom and dad worked really hard. I remember a time where we were eating pancakes every day and we thought that it was a good thing, but really it was because they were working and saving up to buy a house. So my dad was the type of guy that I wake up every day at 4 a.m. walk, he walked three miles to work every single day. Wow. Step that. And back. Yeah, my stepdad. Walk three miles to work to take care of us. So I really appreciate him for that and I think that that was one of the best things that happened.

Wait, so how's you and your, you're a biological father right now? Oh, we're the same person. And I mean, I call him all the time. We talk all the time. I love him. I go see him too. And there's just a certain bond that, you know, with your biological dad, that's harder to replicate with your stepdad.

I don't call him my stepdad, but just so we can separate the two right now. There's a certain kind of bond that you have naturally. And I realize that we even have certain, um, certain manorisms that we just mimic and I wasn't even around him. He wasn't a deadbeat dad or anything by any means. We just got separated because my mom had to leave from where we were because of things that was happening. Yeah.

We ain't going to, yeah. Certain things that were happening. So my mom was like, we're going to leave. And that's, she took me with. And my dad still, I still go see my dad every summer. So he wasn't like a deadbeat dad or anything. He was still in my life actively. So.

Yo, Rapp. Yeah, Rapp. But that's kind of like really interesting, right? Because like there's like this debate between nurture versus nature, right? So like you're telling me that you and your biological father, like you guys are still like really, really like just like that's similar. Even though you grew up with your, I guess you spent more time with your stepfather, right? Yeah. So like do you think though that, you know, like, you know, child development is nurture or nature?

Like which is more important? And I've always I've always thought about that too. Like which one? And that's why I brought it up because I thought it was fascinating because how are we so similar in our mannerism and even speech pattern? Exactly. And we don't even, we wasn't even with each other all the time. But I really don't know, no, I go a lot to you. I think certain aspects are, I think it just varies.

I think it varies, if I'm just completely honest. I think some people are born with certain attributes that allow them to be more successful in life easier with less effort. And some people have to build those attributes, but they are buildable. to a certain extent. And that was one of the things that I was battling when I was running track because I was never the most talented

but I was always the most willing to work. So I was like, let's find out if these guys are faster than me because they're just naturally born faster than me and they don't even put in that much effort or if it's something that I can master and become good at. And I got really good at it

but at the same time there's still that gap because of that nature portion. So I think to some degree it just varies. Yeah. So like speaking of that though, so is sexuality, Is sexuality, like, nurtured in, or, like, are people born a certain way?

Like, like, being gay, straight, et cetera, et cetera. You know what's strange about that is, like, people will have that conversation, and oftentimes when you talk to people who are part of the LGBT community. I-A. Yeah, yeah, yeah, ABCD-D-E-E-E-U. But, yeah, like, it's strange because, according to them, if you're a man, you could be born, like, you could be a man born as a woman.

You could be a man born in a woman's body, right? But you can't be a woman born as a woman. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of strange. So I think that when it come to LGBTQ, I think some of it is definitely influenced. And I think that if you look at the data when it comes to Gen Z, 20% of Gen Z identifies LGBTQ.

Yeah. Which is insane. Historically speaking, it's always been about 1% or 2% of the population that's identified as LGBTQ. And right now it's kind of trendy to be LGBTQ because it comes with some kind of struggle. Yeah. So, and now to be LGBTQ, you don't even have to, you ain't even got to jerk nobody off.

Yeah. You ain't even got to do nothing sexual. You could just say, I'm a thing. Yeah, I'm a thing. I know it's crazy about that, though, right? Like, when it comes to, like, sexuality now, I know when it, like, okay, so tell me if you heard it before, right? When it comes to women, like, sexuality with women, like, is more fluid, right? Because, like, I think, like, there was some, like, weird study done, like, where, like, they, like, pull, like, 500 women.

And they show, like, a picture of an attractive female. And then they put, like, a light in their eyes, right? And, like, I think it's, like, 98% of the women, like, their pupils dilated when they're seen in attractive female. So it's something weird. Like, with women, I guess, yeah, right? Like, they're just attracted to, like, other women. Yeah, they can be. They're a little bit more adaptive in that aspect.

Yeah. And I think that comes, probably, if I just had to guess, probably comes from a time of, polygamy and generally speaking if you have it open more women would rather be the king's mistress than the than the peasant's wife so women kind of have adapted to tolerate other women more probably it's just me guessing it's probably like women have probably adapted to be more like that because um because they got to be that way to get the man because historically speaking if you were a king conqueror any man of any status you had multiple women and those women had to get used to dealing with each other while it's never really been that way for men.

So I would assume it's probably just some evolutionary biology where women have just adapted to be more tolerant of other women. Yo, I know it's crazy. Like, times is now changing, yo. Like, I'm on Instagram and I can't like scroll more than like five fees without seeing this woman who has convinced two cucks like to be like her, quote unquote king of husbands. Yeah, that's crazy.

Why is that problematic? Well, because if who's the father? Yeah. Like that's the biggest. How I don't understand me personally, and I know everybody got their little thing they like to do. But this is just my criticism of the thing you like to do. I criticize a lot of things that I don't really mind if they exist. But I just don't understand as a man how you would be okay with bringing in a child that you don't even know is yours.

And you're donating or giving your resources to this child if you don't even know it's yours. You know what I mean? Like I just think that that's a very strange phenomenon. So, but I think that it's a result of men just becoming weaker. Absolutely. I think men are becoming weaker. You look at testosterone levels. Our testosterone levels are lower than they've ever been in human history.

Like, the modern man has the lowest testosterone in human history. Why is that, though? Well, part of it is the weed or what? Part of it is the cancer in the ranch. You know, they're putting cancer plastics, microplastics in almost all of the food, as well I'm saying. That's part of it. There's also the hormonal birth control that women, when they, you know, use the bathroom.

Hormonal birth control estrogen is in the water, too. You know, and then there's just the social logic. There's the social part of it too, you know, where we're kind of told that our, if we're not behaving like a woman, then we are inferior or acting out. You know what I mean? So like when it comes to emotions, and this is something that a lot of people don't understand, but when it comes to emotions, you're only emotionally intelligent if you show your emotions like a woman.

But the only problem with that is men, men should be more. more stoic because when men are overly emotional and they act on those emotions, they're dangerous. And so women don't understand that. And the bigger picture doesn't understand that because they want you to go along and get along. And if you're more feminine as a man, you're more likely to go along with what's going on. You know what I mean? So a lot of people have been getting banned on YouTube, so I want to be really careful about what I say, even in this conversation.

But yeah, like when you talk about- We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Yeah, but when it comes to the sperm count, sperm count is down 60% of men. As a man, as a 27-year-old man now, ever since 1989, we have been losing 1% testosterone on average every single year. Wow. So me as a 27-year-old man, now I'll have about 30% less testosterone than a 27-year-old man in the 1970. So when you look at even like male, like men ending themselves, that's part of it.

When you look at, I've never seen a school shooter that was the captain of the football team, is what I'm saying. Yeah. Right? So when you teach men that being emotional and acting out on their emotions is the best way to behave, you get a society full of dangerous men that are willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want out of life. And if they're not completely honest about what they want out of life, because if they say what they want out of life, they're deemed as bad, they have to suppress that. And they're going to get it one way or the other. Yeah.

Yeah. So, like, again, I'm not you, right? To where, bro, you know, you're the one person who I can listen to and you will spew like, like 30 facts in like a two sentence like radius, right? Like, right? Like, you were actually well researched, right? But when I like, like, look at men getting weaker, do you think it comes from just life being easier right now?

Like, for example, 100 or like, let's say like 1,000 years ago, right? Men used to have to get up every day, go ahead and hunt and bring back food, right? To eat. Now it's like everything is easier to where like we really don't have to, I guess, like, work is hard, right? So do you think it's like, like, for example, a thousand years ago, a dude who's out of shape and fat usually gets. get killed by the tribe and left behind, right? Yeah, he's dead.

Yeah. Now it's kind of like we can, you know, be lazy, be fat, you know, be like unmotivated, right? But that's all part of it. It's because we, it's because when times get comfortable, men get weak. So I'm sure you've heard the quote, bad times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak times or weak men make bad times. So it's just that cycle that that cycle that we're going through. But the other part of it is that we're also being told that that's okay. You know what I mean?

And masculine men, men who are more objective or men, not objective, men who are more against the grain, men who don't want to go along with the agenda right now, they're being deemed as bad because when society is safe and we've already used those bad men to make society safe, we deem those men as a liability because those men are rampant in the society. When you can't, you know, you can't control that guy if he doesn't give a shit about what you think. You know what I mean? So now that those men. have gotten us to the point where we're in a safe society, we go, you guys are bad now. And as soon as this shit hit the fan, we're going to be calling on those men again. That's how it always works. And I think it's like even a little bit disingenuous because everybody knows it.

Like even when we talk about the LGBTQ stuff, they're going to call you a woman as a man until it's time for the draft. And they're sending you right overseas. All that stuff we, this is because it's good times. We can just say her and kick out feet up and go, yeah, everybody's a ninja or a Batman or whatever. you want to be. Yeah. But when the people come knocking, because China's getting ready, while we're making our boys more

feminine, getting them addicted to pornography through social media, because that's what it all is. Let's just be completely honest. While we're doing that and telling them to be more emotional and cry about their feelings and not go out and seek challenge and seek trying to be better and seek being stronger and being more dangerous and more masculine, China's teaching their children. They're getting all of their feminine men out of their media. They don't want any of that in there anymore, and they're teaching their men to be stronger.

So, I mean, when the war comes, who do you want? You want the guy that believes that he's a girl, or do you want the guy that's foaming at the mouth full of testosterone? Yo, like, I think we all know the answer to that, right? Because let's be real, man. Like, what's currently described as toxic masculinity, right? Bro, like, those are all men that, like, we would run behind and say, yo, save us, right? Now, like, you know, now speaking of the red pill, have you always been, like, red pill?

I think that there's a time in everybody's life where you kind of start to realize a little bit more, especially as you get older, because as men were especially now, especially now, we're told that pretty much women can do no harm. Like people, you've heard the term how to treat a man. You never heard the term how to treat a lady. You've heard the term how to treat a man. Absolutely. And it's because society conditions men to essentially think that women are these angelic creatures that can never do any wrong.

And eventually, you assuming that gets you in a bad. position and you start to realize how things work. It doesn't mean women are demons, but it also means that women are angels. They're humans. They make mistakes. So, but I think that a lot of men are conditioned to believe that. So every guy has kind of a moment where it starts to make a little bit more sense and it's generally when you get a little older. For me, I had a friend in high school. We were about 14 years old, bro. He had a girlfriend. He moved the girl in with her and because she was having some problems with her family and they live together and co-exist or whatever.

He got her pregnant and she had a baby. And I mean, this guy stepped up to the plate. At 14 years old, he's going to work every single day right after school. So you go to school from 9 a.m. to 3. At 3, he going to work at 3.30 to go to work till 9.10 o'clock. Then he's biting Minnesota, rain, sleet or snow. He's biking his way all the way across town

to get back home. He was doing that every single day. I literally seen the life drain from his body from doing it every day. He's 14 years old. He ain't ready for that kind of stress. This woman abused him. And then just a couple months later

after the baby was born, there were some rumors going around and he went and got a paternity test. Turns out the baby wasn't his because she was sleeping with some other dude at another school. Wow. A person that he had given everything to,

a person that he had taken into his own home, took care of her, took care of a baby that he thought was his on the drop of a dime while also being abused by this woman and and and it wasn't even his baby

you know what I mean? And there's absolutely no punishment for that. None at all. That man lost two years of his life working like a slave to provide for another man's child and there's absolutely no punishment for that and just being conscious of things like that

and going off to college, being a Division I athlete and seeing girls that was in relationship for three, four years back of high school come be freshmen and then get you know, my teammates are sleeping with them in the truck, not even making it to the bedroom. Wow.

You know, like girls that you would assume Scalilat. Yeah, essentially. So you just start to realize that girls aren't angels, they're humans. And they make mistakes too. Yeah, right? So, like, you're actually like an anomaly

to where, like, you actually learn from the mistakes of other men, right? So we're like, again, like, you've, like, you've had a baddie since, like, 15 years old, right? So, like, you never truly understood, I guess, like, heartbreak or dealing with, like, scandalous women or, or, like, you just grew up with a father to where, like, you've always been on game and knew these women can't be, again, but I can't be trusted, but most women

are, you know, scandalous. There's parts, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think it's just because, it was because my head was down. Yeah. Like, I'm going to, I'm training every day. After training, I'm coming home, I'm reading books, you know, I'm trying to diet, trying to eat well, to try to be the best athlete I can possibly be. And when you are trying to pursue something and you're actively, like, engaged in it, it's

hard to be degenerate. So at this time I wasn't drinking, wasn't smoking, wasn't doing anything outside of what I thought was going to make me successful because I didn't have any money. I don't know how dudes are even walking around trying to sleep with two,

three women. You ain't got no money. Like I don't get it. Like where are your priorities not only for the kids that you may bring into the world, but also for yourself. You know what I mean?

So my priority was always get the money first, then we can have the fun. So that's why with all the women stuff, I wasn't dealing with multiple women because I had no reason to. I was broke. Yeah, right?

do it, yeah. Not. Here, right? So, like, when did you... Okay, so then after rugby, when did you say, yo, I'm about to start this YouTube stuff? Because, like, you started off doing an actual podcast on YouTube. Yeah.

Yeah. So, um, so, literally, I, so for the USA rugby team, I played for a year and a half. I got to go to, like, 12, 13 different countries, represent the U.S. And I, in the, in 2019, I got a bronze medal at the Pan Am games.

Oh, man. Yeah. Literally, bro, I, um, I hit some dude. I put it on him, but he threw an elbow and cut my eye and I'm in a in a basement in Peru without any anesthesia getting my eye stitched up to go play in the next game you know what I mean so like that yeah that was a part of it but then right after that literally that same summer I proposed to my wife at a tournament in Colorado it's called Rugby Town it happens every single year we won the tournament but in the tournament I had a career ending injury I had a yeah I had a herniated disc in my back oh man so I had bad sciatica and I went back to the next to the next time and I went back to the next to the next one national side at the end of that summer because we start training in the fall and they pretty much said you're kind of on your own and the money that they offered to pay me wasn't money that I could sustain a family with and I've just gotten engaged because I literally just

proposed. So at this point I'm like, okay, I've been training for 10 years. Yeah. With nothing to show for it, you know, except for, again, the discipline and the consistency. In a bronze medal. In a bronze medal. It's nice. I mean, hey, brad.

You get to say. Olympic bronze medal is crazy. Yeah, I get a lot of stuff. So I got to hang out with NFL athletes and I get to see some of the dynamics. But yeah, so right after that, I had that injury and after that injury, and this is why I tell people it's the consistency and it's the drive and it's the no matter what. I had good enough reason to sit there after working for 10 years of my life going to going to the track every single day.

In the summer, literally having blisters on my feet from trying to run to get a scholarship because I went from 11-2 to running 10-7 in one summer just to get a college scholarship for track. So I had every reason to just be emotional and go, it's all over. I dedicated my entire life to this. I give up. I'm just going to sit in my room and cry and not put forth any effort.

But I chose to continue to go. So right after that, I came back home. I started to work for USPS. With sciatica in my back, hardly being able to walk. I'm walking five miles a day. You're a millman. Bro. Walking five miles a day.

Holding people's goddamn male, Batman toothbrushes, assless chaps, everything you order from Amazon. I'm carrying. And I can barely walk, but I'm walking five miles a day to make sure that I can provide a certain... Yeah, essentially, because I got a fiancé now

and I'm taking it serious. But in my spare time, even though I was working and doing sometimes 10-hour shifts, I was still working out, and I was still making YouTube videos every single day. Wow. So, yeah, and from the consistency, nobody sees the catalog because I deleted it all,

but... Oh, yo, again, we will touch on that later. Yeah, well, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait for that conversation. But, yeah, yeah, so, like, the first six months, I'm doing this stuff every day and nobody cares, you know? And that's the hardest part is when nobody cares. When you go into the gym and you still kind of big and nobody sees it and you don't even see it, nobody cares.

That's the hardest part. But when the results start to show, people start paying attention. You start to see the difference in your own life. And, you know, the snowball creates and it starts to get bigger and bigger. So that's how I got into it. Yo, listen, listening to like you talk, man, bro, like, it makes me want to like leave here and go to the gym. And run 20 miles, nigga. Right, right, right, bro.

Yeah, I feel that. It's like, you're so, like, motivated, man. Now, like, what made you, I guess, like, transition from, I guess, like, the actual podcast feel to doing, like, the reaction video to, like, the Red Pill content? Yeah, well, see, the thing about a podcast is, um, it gives you a lot of excuses to not. Well, okay, I'll start with the first. The thing about the podcast, first of all, is when you start a podcast from the beginning, you have to make sure that your audience likes you more than they like the guests.

Yeah. Especially on YouTube where you know, you know. you can have dead subscribers. So I could start a podcast, have Jordan Peterson on, get 50,000 subscribers, but those 50,000 people are here to see Jordan Peterson, not poor man's podcast or Trayvion Clark. You know what I mean?

So you're in a situation now where you've built this major audience, but you only get in 1,000 views per video because the people subscribe to you for the person that you had on and not because they actually care about you. So I was like, okay, I'd have to build the brand myself. And also I have to, I'm like, like an independent guy. I like to do things on my own because when it's me, I, when I know it's

on me, I can't make excuses. That was one of the reason why I like track, because it doesn't matter if you run in 10, 5, 10, 10, it doesn't, there ain't no excuses. It's not about if your quarterback is good or you got a good D-line or whatever it may be. You don't have any excuses is on you. So I'd like to be solo for a lot of my things. And that's why I kind of stopped interviewing people because sometimes people wouldn't show up. People were inconsistent. You know how it is, especially when you're smaller and you're trying to build the name, people don't take you as serious. I think you, by the way, right? Because

listen, I want people to know, right? How serious this brother takes his craft? Yeah, yeah. I'm dead ass. Most guests are 30, 45 minutes late. Right? Like, here, right? So, like, for example, I was supposed to interview, like, this rapper, right? I think it was like, well, last week, Tuesday? I think, right? Last week, Tuesday,

this rapper, right? A big rapper. bro he was probably like what an hour and 50 minutes late right is he a big rapper uh nah like probably like there it is there it is I mean I don't want to

talk no bad about but those are the habits bro it's like little habits like especially with black folks we create these little bad habits where we just give excuses to each other oh he on CP time he on color people time no man you you got somebody showing up

to interview you or to give you a platform to give you an opportunity and you're going to show up late? That's crazy to me. And you came early, by the way. You feel I'm here. Yeah. He was here early, sitting down. I came like, expecting, but they're here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They all from. I said, what? Yeah, yeah. Man, man, bro. That's crazy, right?

Yo, listen, I do want to ask you though, right? So, like, for the Olympics, right? Here, right? So, like, were you, like, a part of, like, the Olympic tent? Like, right? So, so, so, so, apparently, like, there's, again, I'd never been no athlete, right? But apparently, apparently, like, there's a community where it's kind of like, like, just like, everybody lives in this, like, one community with, like, tents and stuff like that. Yeah. Were y'all there, too?

Are you talking about, like, as far as training? Are you talking about at the actual events? Yeah, like. Because in training, it's actually in Chula Vista. I was right south of L.A. In Chula Vista, we have the Olympic Training Center. So that's where all the Olympic athletes, not all of them, because there's various ones across the country.

Yeah. But that's where some of the Olympic athletes go and train and live. At the event. Okay, at the event, yeah. When I went to the Pan Am Games, which is the big. biggest event that I did. Next year was the Olympics and I was training for that. Unfortunately, you fuck up your shit.

Yeah. So, um. That's why. So at the Pan Am games, yeah, you go in, man, and everything set out for you. We were in Peru. You got the flags. You got the Jamaican flag. Everybody has their country's flags.

You know what I mean? And it's a, it's a unique experience because there's so many cultures clashing in one area. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's. And you're black, right? Yeah, yeah. Or Jamaican. I'm black.

Okay. But the thing is, it's a big orgy. Yeah. You got a whole bunch of people full of testosterone, a lot of, own, a lot of dudes that may be fit, a lot of women that are fit, probably attractive, and a lot of people get into a lot of things. Hey, I'm not, hey, look, it's what I'm saying. So, like, when you, when you end that kind of environment and you have these conversations

with regular people that don't understand that guys that are at a certain level have an understanding. Many of these dudes have girlfriend. I'm not going to talk about the rugby team, not the rugby team. But many of these dudes that I met in NFL, world-class track athletes, they're traveling for two or three two or three weeks at a time sometimes and so their wives kind of have this understanding where as long as it's not out in the public

as long as it's not disrespectful, as long as you're not bringing in illegitimate children, as long as you're at least showering before you come home or you know you have an anytime fitness membership you go and shower before you come back home to see as long as you're taking care of what you've got to do and doing it to a certain degree like being respectful and keeping it out of her face and she doesn't know

that's fine. The trouble comes when it's all in the media Now her family's like, oh, you're with this guy and he's, and then other women are going, yeah, sis, you need to leave him, even though those are the same women that's going to be in his DMs the next day. Those same women that are telling these ladies to lead these millionaire men because the dude may have cheated on them. And I get it. That's not a good thing to do, especially to your family, to you want me. I get it. It's not good.

But those same women that are telling these women to lead that man, they're jealous because as soon. Exactly. Like, why would you do that? Wait, right? So now, I got asked now, right? Now, as somebody who you're now a high-value man, right? You know, right? Again, again, Social Blade is the worst tool ever, right?

Now you're on Social Blade. You feel me, man? You got paper, you feel me? I mean, I'm not right. You got paper, right? So, here, so, so, like, now you're married, right? So getting married, now having paper, wasn't ever like, yo, like this pre-in-up got to, you know, happen?

I never felt that way with her because she was, she was with me through a lot of stuff. Yeah, through everything. Through everything. Like, from the beginning today, and she was literally in the video the day I broke, I broke the high school record. You know, like, just different components, different parts of my life. She's always been

there. She's helped build me to a certain spot. Maybe we could talk about a pre-nup in the future, you know, just to make it so that when you separate, it's not as malicious. Because sometimes people think that it's all, you know, flowers and rain, until it comes and then this person is trying to take all of your money and it leaves a bitter taste in everybody's mouth and nobody likes anything right now though like for example uh i think like

charlemagne to god right and he said yo listen like me and my wife like been together right now for like well like since we were like 15 years old and they're like 45 right now right and he said listen we we we don't got no print up if we get divorce right now she deserves half bro because So like do you feel that way? Like if you guys get divorced, do she deserve 25, 50% or what? I feel that way to a certain degree because she's given her most beautiful and fertile years to me exclusively. Yeah. So now that, you know, she's going to start aging.

She's going to get older, you know, and beauty fades. If you take care of yourself, it fades a little slower. But it always fades. So, you know, she gave those years to me. So I think that it's only right that now that I became a little bit more successful, I make sure that she's taking care of for the rest of her life. And that's always going to be the case for her. That's dope.

You see, I don't have a wife yet. So, like, my, like, view on those things probably would change, right? Like, once I find somebody, I guess I truly love like that, right? Now, I do have a long-term girlfriend three plus years, right? But, like, for me is, bro, I'll be real, man. Like, I don't think I can ever get to that point where I'm willing to say, listen, like, you held it down to where if we do break up, you can get a portion of this wolf that I build it.

up she yeah i feel it though because she yo she your girlfriend right yeah well my wife was married to me before oh really yeah well we got married yeah i wasn't even making youtube videos when we got married so like after i got injured she's wheeling me through the airport in a in a wheelchair you know to get me back to the olympic trainers so yeah that's dangerous though bro because if she was with you before everything god forbid 20 years later you'll go to a divorce court oh she's oh oh oh oh oh bitch, man, listen. Oh yeah, she's going to hit me up. You're going through the ringer, bro.

No, yeah, and I understand because that's 50% of marriage is into divorce, and we're just completely honest. And maybe that's why it could be a discussion in the future if we ever get to a certain point. But I will, no matter what, make sure that she's taking care of financially for the rest of her life. Yeah. So I don't plan on getting a divorce, but nobody ever plans for rain, you know.

And so I don't plan on getting a divorce, but if it does happen, if that day does come, she, no matter what, we'll be taking care of financially. for the rest of her life. I'll see to it. It's just my responsibility. Like, that's what it's about. You got to have the responsibility. And I think that's the difference between the boys and the men. You can have all the money in the world. If you don't have responsibility, then what does it matter?

Like if you don't, then you're not a man. A man takes responsibility for the people around him. A man makes money to prove that he can have a family. A woman makes money, and that's one of the biggest differences. A woman makes money to prove that she doesn't need a man. You see the differences? So like to be a man, you have to take on responsibility. So I'm always good for taking on responsibility.

And I think men should take on more responsibility because it forces you to perform. When you don't have any responsibility, you could just sit on the couch all day, waste your life, playing video games, bullshit and jerking off, whatever you want to do. But when you have people you have to take care of, people you have to get up and wake up and provide for, that gives you motivation. And have you ever heard of the statistic that 30% of men between the age of 18 and 30 are, I think it's 30% of men by the age of 30. are, what is it, zero, I'm trying to get in my, you know, I'd be having so many instances. Yo, bro, he's the, listen, there's a difference between guys, like, for example, right?

We know a difference between dudes who put on a camera and a mic, and they're just legit, like, just reacting and talking about shit they know nothing about. You're one of those dudes where it's kind of like, bro, like, you actually know your shit, you know what you're talking about, right? And, like, you're not a shock jockey, meaning, like, Yeah, that's the biggest part, especially on the internet, it's easy to get into that category.

So, talk, okay. Yeah, but, like, I do want to go back to this point because I do think it's important. But, so 30% of men at the age of 30 are virgins or haven't had sex within the last year. Think about that. 30% of men, this is the first time in human history where a woman at the age, a woman between the age of 18 and 24 has had more sexual partners than a man in that same age. The first time in human history. So, and when you hear that statistic, women will just go, oh, that's a man's problem.

No big deal. why should we care? And you should care because a family is a man's, a family is what anchors a man to society. If a man doesn't have a family, why would he care about society? Why would he not go shoot up someplace? Why would he care about voting? Why would he care about going to work every single day and continuing to be productive? And that's what you're seeing. A lot of guys are deciding to not be productive because they don't even have the chance of having a family because so many women want a specific kind of guy that they're probably never even going to get anyway. So you got guys that are virgins, which is the most dangerous.

Dangerous. Yeah, these are dangerous people because I have nothing to lose. You don't have any responsibility. You don't have anything that anchors you to care about society. So why care? And that's when things get dangerous. So when women hear that statistic and they go, who cares? You going to start caring.

You're going to start caring because those men have no reason to go to war. So when China comes a knocking, when Russia comes a knocking, and you go, well, why don't you get up and go help? Why should I? I have no family. I've been to nobody cares about me. Nobody's ever told me to have a nice day. Nobody says they appreciate anything that I've done. I've gotten up, worked every single day for absolutely no reason.

And there's a lot of guys that feel like that and that becomes dangerous for society. That's the responsibility. That's why responsibility is important. You listen, like, speak with that danger, right? Because I've always said this. Because like we sit back and we kind of like try to figure out what's the purpose of the rights people community, right? Like, is the purpose of red pill for like self-imprud? just for men to go into these, I guess, interactions with women and to not be manipulated and take it to the ringer.

Or it's the goal for us to create a healthy relationship dynamic between men and women and take away that danger and take away just that like gender war, you know, you know, that's currently going on. I think right now, you being like the relationship portion because I sometimes dwell into the whole grander scheme of everything. At the man is fair, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it because, to answer your question specifically, though, I think it's more about teaching men how to be the best versions of themselves. Because when you have men that are the best versions of themselves and they're able to take on responsibility and they're willing to be disciplined and do things every single day, you get a man that women want to be with. Regardless of if that man is a CEO or whatever it may be, you get a certain character of guy that's able to take care of a family. You know what I'm saying? So you've got to be the kind of guy that a woman would want to be with.

And those are the aspects that women want. So I think when you conquer the whole teaching men to be the best versions of themselves, you kind of solve the other problems too. But there's also a bigger agenda when you talk about the red pill where corporations are openly promoting certain ideas because it's profitable for them. Like when you talk about women in the workforce, that is almost exclusively beneficial to corporations in the government, almost exclusively. A woman is going to go to work, but you still got to cook.

and clean, but now you just got to go to work too. So that's the scam. And women are more depressed than ever before. Men are more sexless and addicted to porn than ever before. The highest-growing as or antidepressants and anti-exiety medications is at an all-time high. And the fastest

growing demographic is women between the age of 40 and 45. So those women have found out that they didn't want to have families because they've been told that they should go and chase the bags since so they've gone and folded pants of the Banana Republic, only to find out that they're to be miserable when they're 40.

And this whole boss babe mentality where you're just going to be the successful millionaire, statistically speaking, it ain't going to happen. Women make on average 35K a year regardless of how we want to cut it or chop it. That's insane to even think about, man. Yeah. So you got a situation where corporations are promoting certain ideas because it's exclusively beneficial for them. Like when you look at certain things, you got to ask yourself who benefits from that.

Why is this a thing and who benefits from it? You get women into the workplace. Now there's nobody home to feed the children. Nobody cooked for the kids. So now you got to go eat McDonald's. Now you got obese children, right? You get women into the workplace. Now you got to send your kids to daycare.

And the latest studies have come out on this because this is the first generation of kids that were raised by daycare essentially. And it skyrockets your chances of being depressed and anxious. So when you look at Gen Z and they're wearing hoodies in 90 degree weather and they're acting all sad and depressed, it's probably because they were raised by. It's an emo generation right now for some reason. They're all sad. Exactly. It's because they were raised in an environment that wasn't beneficial to them because there was no woman in the house. So, you know, when you double the workforce by pushing women into the workforce, you now have, you now suppress wages because anything there's more of, you pay less for.

So now that there's double the workers, you don't have to pay people as much, beneficial to companies. And you get two times the people you can tax, beneficial for the government. So why wouldn't you push these ideas? And there was a woman, I forgot her last name, but her first name is Gloria. She worked for Cosmopolitan, and this is just a part of the propaganda. She said that in the 90s when Cosmopolitan was the most influential for women, that she was paid to lie about facts data and statistics to promote more sex in the city lifestyle because it's going to sell more magazines and it's going to make women be more into consumerism.

So women are being told that they can find happiness through things instead of finding happiness through genuine fulfillment. And that's a big part of the problem. And 65% of all consumer debt is owned by women. And that's why when you look at all of the media, it's all catered to pleasing women. Yeah. But the problem is when you only cater things to please women, you have to lie to them. When guys talk to women, let's just keep it a buck. When you try to get, let's just keep it above.

Hey, speak on it. A lot of it is not being completely honest because women like to hear that kind of stuff. Absolutely. That's why men lie. Men lie. And I think Andrew Tate said this. He was one of the first people I heard say. It's been said before.

But men lie because, or I'm not even going to go into it. But yeah, because I don't want to go all the way down that road because I know where it's going to lead. But yeah, so you got to ask yourself. It's city girl cultural though, right? Yeah, who benefits for pushing these narratives? And it's certainly not women. It's certainly not children. It's certainly not men who's benefiting.

These corporations are becoming more powerful than countries and nobody's even paying attention. Throughout all of human history, there have always been kings and conquerors, dictators that have wanted to conquer the world. They've built armies. They've gone north. And so we're going to kill everybody in that direction for absolutely no reason other than the fact that They love power and they love conquering. Those people still exist. They just own companies.

And there are people making decisions on our behalf. While we're arguing about who can go into what bathroom, they're making decisions on our behalf that's going to dictate the direction that humanity goes in forever. So we're sitting here arguing about sex or can men do this or women do that. But they're talking about putting us in the metaverse. And nobody's paying attention to that. They're just moving little legislations to make us a little bit more slaves every single day. And because everybody's having a party, everybody's going and buying the new bag or the new purse or whatever the city girls told you to go do, nobody's paying attention to this stuff.

Yo, listen, right? Like, okay, you know, but like, and I truly believe, bro, like, that metaverse is going to be the collapse of society. Because can you imagine, right, if we create an interactive virtual world where, like, we can legit go in, walk, talk, and legit be somebody, like, for example, right, If I become a trillionaire in the metaverse, how do I now, again, a trainer to where, like, I'm speaking to people. Like, I have my own business, my own career. I'm a trainer. People is actually, like, talking to me. I'm hearing voices.

How do I go from being a trillionaire in the metaverse to then shutting off that thing, taking off, like, my VR? And how do I now come back to reality and wake up and go to a factory and, like, work for 20 bucks an hour? Yeah. Come on, bro. It's over with. You ain't gonna. And that's the thing. That's why everything is going to go there.

And it's about absolute control. Now, if I could literally just turn you off with the press of a button, and that's what social media is becoming, we've given these companies the ability to control what we say. And then the companies are only controlling what we say because they get money from the advertisers. So the advertisers get the final word of what is allowed to be said and what is not allowed to be said. So again, they're going to do things for the benefit of themselves.

Companies do not do things because they care about women. They didn't get rid of Andrew Tate or Sneako or whoever all these people. They don't do these things because they care about women. They only promote things that they think is going to make them more profit. It's that simple. So when people go, oh, yeah, they're for women. They're promoting feminism. They must be for women.

No, they are for profit. And they think that women are more profitable because 65% of all consumer debt is owned by women. Women are two times more likely to respond to an ad shown to them on Instagram. So if you want to have women buy more Lululemen leggings, get rid of it. and women are going to feel safe on your platform so they keep buying shit. That's what it's all about. It's a big billboard. Here, let's speak about Sneiko, Andrew Tate, and others.

Because I used to think that being a rapper was the most dangerous job on a planet. Hell, no, bro, being a rap, he'll create it. It's the most dangerous. Listen, like, and I don't think people truly understand how messed up, like, what is coming is doing, right? Can you imagine growing, creating a business? a, you know, like, quote unquote platform on, like, a particular

site. You know, like, making 50, 100K per month, feeding your family, doing what you got to do, and then you wake up one day, and it's... Your entire catalog is gone. It's gone. Now, but the entire business model has been stripped away,

taken away, and they can't provide you a real reason as to why they take you down, right? And it's, oh, you are dangerous. Who decides that? Exactly. So who gets the power, the people who decide what's dangerous? You know what I'm saying?

So, like, that's what it's all about. It's all about ultimate power. They want to turn you off. Like, our money now is digital. Like, our money, when we say money is being printed, that's just numbers on a keyboard now. It's not even tangible money anymore. Joe Biden, I don't want to get political, but Biden's trying to get rid of money. There's something called a CBDC.

And while people are talking about gender and who's having, Andrew Tate, CBDCs are coming out. And essentially, it's they want to get rid of cash and they want to bring in a currency where essentially it's all digital. And that's just so they control it and track everything that you spend. So now you get more taxes because everything that you do is through this CBDC

and they want to put a timer on your money. So they want to be able to go, you have to spend this money in this certain amount of time or it disappears. And that's because money is a currency. So if you keep it flowing, that's how you get a strong dollar. So while we're arguing about all this other stuff,

they want absolute control and the best way to get that absolute control is through technology. All those kings and conquerors that I was talking about before, Genghis Khan conquered Asia and part of Russia on horseback. Yeah. Get that dig eye phone. See what you can do.

Right? So these people, these people, they exist and it's about absolute control. And the best way to get absolute control is to put people in this digital setting where you can just, boom, turn them off if you want to. And that's where we're going.

Yeah, right? So, like, are you, like, pro, like, 5G? Like, so, like, apparently, like, this is new thing coming down where it's, like, it's 5G towers, right? to where, like, and they put a chip in you, and instead of, like, having a credit card or a phone, right? Like, you are the machine now to where you can just, like, walk into, like, a McDonald's, grab your food, walk out, and, like, your chip would just, like, automatically pay for it.

So are you anti- or pro-technology improving that drastically? I think, here's the thing. When you make people lazy and fat and stupid and just blobs, essentially, You can sell them convenience. And that's what it is. They're taking our freedom to sell us convenience. I have a phone. I got my Android.

They got my thumbprint because it's so... You got an Android? Yeah, I got an Android. But, yeah, I have Apple stock too. So eight out of ten teenagers have iPhones. It's an investment for the future. So, yeah, when people make fun of me, I go keep buying iPhone. They're paying me.

So, yeah, but I have this phone. I could just put my finger on it. Boop pops up. Yeah. It's a little bit more convenient than typing in the password, but now they have my thumbprint. So they'll, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're selling us convenience, oh, you can just walk in the store and walk out. You don't even have to have pennies in your pockets. That's so old school. Don't do that anymore. But eventually,

it gives them more power over you because if they want to turn off that chip in your arm, they can. And when it comes to this technology stuff, we're at the fork in the road where we're going to have to decide what we want to do. Either we're going to go all the way in, like, Metaverse, chipping our ass and hope our billionaire warlords don't goddamn take advantage of us, or we're going to decide that what technology is right now is, unsustainable because it's damaging to the human psyche. So we're at that fork in the road. And I think the people are making the decisions for us because we're too busy.

We're addicts really to the social media stuff. So I don't think, and if I think that it's had, look at Instagram, bro. Instagram has only been around for about 10 years. That's crazy to think about it. And look at what it's done to humanity in just 10 years. We're almost totally different than where we were. Change Survivor. Yeah.

And so if we're not ready to deal with Instagram, I don't think we're ready to deal with chips in our brains. But, you know. Here, right. So now, here, right, so, like, when I found out

that, like, Andrew Tate got banned, right? Now, the bare near warlord thing is a very interesting concept, right? Because, like,

what, like, and I'm realizing is, the issue isn't them is now our mindset of, like, for example, man,

like, uh, 2000 years ago, once a king becomes tyrannical, he gets overthrown, right? Mm-hmm.

Now when that thing happened to Andrew Tate and I look up and I see other consecrators talking about, man, bro, it's, listen, it's their platform. They don't like leave. And I'm like, yo, we got to a point now where like we actually, it's like niggas is actually now siding with the tyrants, siding with the people who's oppressing and saying that like, niggas like us who's getting oppressed and complaining about that shit, niggas leave. So what, right? It's because it hasn't affected them yet. And once it starts to affect you and you start to see people disappear for having certain opinions, because that's how power works. Tired of CCP. Nobody, yeah, you are.

But nobody, nobody that gets power gives it back. That's not how the game works. They tighten the leash. When we first started with taxes, income taxes was started by convincing the poor people that they were only going to promote income taxes to the rich people. And so poor people were like, yeah, fuck those people. They got all the money anyway. Fuck Andrew Tate. He got all this ploward James, you know, why did it?

It doesn't matter, right? And then eventually it got to the point where the rich people who are okay, Andrew Tate's going to be fine. He's going to be okay. The rich people who are paying those taxes are okay because now they have the money to hire lawyers and avoid those taxes while the poor people are left carrying the bag because they don't have the resources. So when this gets to a certain point where you start to get silenced yourself,

that's when people are going to care, but it's probably going to be too late. Yeah, let's be real though, man. So when I look at Andrew Tate out of here, sneaker out of here. Now, obviously there's a chain of command, right? And, and, you know, like, now that Angel Tate and Sneaker was gone, the next tier now is poor man podcast, fresh and fit, stuff is cold, et cetera, et cetera, right? Mediocre tutorials and reviews. I got to give him a shout out. Yo, he's amazing, right?

So we did reach out, and he's going through some, right? But, like, once he's done with those things, and he's definitely coming to have that conversation with us. right? Yeah. So are you ever in fear of, yo, nigga, we next? And, like, honestly, this is nothing we can do to, like, control this. Yeah, if you see my channel, I haven't posted in 11 days, it's because I'm preparing myself for a situation where I don't have a platform anymore.

Why? So, because at any moment, it can be taken away. And if you have the resources to prevent yourself from being homeless after your business gets taken away, I'm just diversifying, essentially. Because I don't know how sustainable it is in the long run. because did you know that they played Sneko in the Senate? Wow. I did not know.

No. They played Sneko in the Senate and said that his messaging was harmful, dangerous, and extremist. Wow. Who decides what's harmful, dangerous, and extremist? But they played it in the Senate and said, we got to get rid of this radical rhetoric. Yeah. And to me personally, I don't think that much of it is radical. I think me personally, I think that teaching a young child that they can determine their own gender before they even know if Santa Claus is real is more dangerous and extreme.

but nobody cares about that. It's about if a guy is saying, you need to be the best version of yourself, stop allowing comfort so they can't, stop allowing yourself to be so comfortable that you're easily to take advantage of. When those people start to talk, when those guys that have protected society

for all of human history start to speak up about the tyranny that's happening, that's when you want to silence them because it's not beneficial to the money you're making. Wait, they actually play Sneakle innocent. And now, again, this is where, right, like being like a black man, right? because all of our lives

and we were told, yo, listen, the Republicans, conservatives, they are your enemy, these niggas don't fuck with you, don't fuck with them, right? And now as an adult, when I see things like, yo, like the stifening of free speech, that's not coming from conservatives, that's coming from a, from, from a, you know,

from like Democrats and liberals. People who say they're tolerant. Yeah, right? But they will take your livelihood if you don't agree with them. Yeah, right. And then when we see like, Like some things like, yo, like, you know, they're now pushing to where they can come into my home.

And if my kid is, you know, saying, yo, he wants to be a female, they can come into my home, take my kid and, like, do whatever they want to do to them to, like, now we're seeing there's, there's a particular group inside pushing for these things and stifling on our natural rights. At what point do we say, yo, listen, like the enemy isn't conservatives. The enemy is, you know, people who are trying to stifing your rights, which is the mother niggas. I think it's when you talk about black folks in particular, I think it's when we realize that the Democratic Party is essentially just playing on our heartstrings. Now, look, I'm not saying the Republicans are great. I'm not saying either party is great. They're more honest, though. I think so in the current, in the current, definitely.

I think that it's more like we have presidential candidates and instead of giving most of our vote automatically to one political party just because that's what you're supposed to do of you black, we look at both parties and we ask ourselves or we ask them, what can we. we get from you and the one that comes up with the best plan that's going to benefit African Americans specifically. Those are the people we choose the vote for. Is that simple? What are you doing? It's not about what you're saying. It's what are you doing? We're okay with just taking the word for it and going somebody just saying, yeah, I'm going to help black folks or doing whatever, but they never do it. You know what I'm saying? So we have to look at who comes up with the best plan for what, you know, as a plan for the best thing to benefit African Americans. And that's how we start to gauge our vote. Stop giving our vote to people that for for no reason. We're just giving

wear a free vote. So, what's your thoughts on like Kanye wearing that like white lights matter shirt? Because I'll be real. Now, now, now, again, like when I think about the white life matter shirt, right, there's different ways to look at it. Now, my way to look at is this. Now, if he's doing it as a complete adversary to Black Lives Matter, that's some cool shit. But if he's just wearing it just to say, listen, like, hey, white lives matter, I think White Lives Matter, you know, like, what's wrong with that? Cool, right? So, like, what's your thoughts on him wearing the White White Lives Matter shirt? I think he has an album dropping. Or shit. Or shit. or a hoodie

and people are going to buy it anyway. Let's just stop it. This outrage that people have for things that billionaires do, it doesn't hold any weight because as soon as they drop a new product, these people go support it anyway. So, I mean, for me personally,

I get what he'd be what he's trying to do because if we're just completely honest, there is an attack on white folks. There's certain things that people can get away with and then go, oh, you're trying to get me in trouble for it because I'm black. Like the lady that did the Black Lives Matter thing

and they were out there spending the money on mansions. And then when she got confronted by another black woman, Candace Owens, she tried to say the only reason that she's coming for her is because she's a black woman. Like, let's stop. It's because you use millions of dollars to buy yourself a mansion.

That's why they're going after you. But they'll use that as a guy to try to hide behind a curtain of oppression so they're never held responsible for their actions. Yo, bro, but like that situation is the most niggish shit I've ever seen. It's crazy. She gave a million a year to her baby daddy. come on

not even her her husband her baby daddy gave it a million a fucking year like to run like what like a live live like

come on bro like live performances or some board's like that bro you feel me come on bro here so like again right like

I often see that the rep hill right you know that's not a political movement but like most people who take the red pill and digest it

they usually have a certain political affiliation Why do you think that is that like most people who I take the red pill usually go the conservative route? I think it's because if you look at if, okay, like when I was in high school, I was liberal. Yeah. Because it was the conservatives that were the ones that were trying to push religion into science.

Yeah. And I was like, I don't agree with that. I'm more liberal at this point. Now that I'm older, it's the liberal people that are trying to push LGBTQ on the kids. And I go, that's a little much. I'm a little bit more conservative now. when it comes to traditional family values, because I think that strong families build strong countries.

So right now, I think it's leaning more conservative because that's just the sway of the, you know, the pendulum. I think that it's been an overcorrection for the left, and now we're starting to get to the point where we're making outlandish promotions from the left. And I think if you're a reasonable person and you sit there and have a conversation with yourself and you're just completely honest. It's about honesty. You'll come to the conclusion that right now the Republican Party is a little bit more

based in reality. And I know that sounds crazy. Some people go on feel however it feel, but they're more based in reality. And me personally, a huge proponent of it is the kids, because now I'm getting to the age where I'm a little older. I have a wife.

I'm planning on having children. I want to be a little bit more conscious about what's going on on that side. And I think when you're promoting things like maps, I don't know if you heard about this, but they want to identify pedophiles to take away the stigma. Oh, yeah, I heard of that.

Yeah, they want to identify them as, What was it, minor attracted persons? That's what they want to call them to take away the stigma. So when you create an environment where kids are going to drag shows, what kind of grown adult wants to be

essentially a stripper in front of children? What kind of grown adult wants to do that? A pedify. Bingo. And the thing is, I'm saying you're opening up the door for certain people to come in. I'm not saying everybody in that community

is a part of that, and I understand. No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, bro, listen, I'm going to say this. if you dress thing drag and you want sexual gratification for a kid watching you shake fake

titties, nigga you a pedophile. It's weird. It's weird. So yeah, I have a channel that I want to keep. So this is the part of the law, you know, where you start to decide because you understand that you still got to play by the rules until you get to the point where you're Andrew Taney

you can fly around on private jets. Yeah, and I'm not there yet. So I do have to be a little bit careful. But yeah, like when you create an environment where you're telling teachers that they're allowed to have sexual conversations with kids without the parents' consent, You're creating an environment where people that want to have sexual conversations with kids are going to come in.

And those are the kind of people. I'm not with that. I don't like school is for math and science. I don't care about your gender identity, whatever you may be promoting. Keep it to yourself. Teach math and science. Let's do that. Here, right?

So, like, there's something where even, like, the school system, right? I think there was, like, the study that shows, yo, like, the school system itself is, like, designed for, women, females, right? Like, look, like, because for example, like, tell them, tell like a four-year-old or a five-year-old to sit in a desk or a five-year-old boy, right, who's full with so much emotion. To sit in a desk for six hours, that right there is something that's catering to women, right? Because they're more passive. Right. So, like, do you think that the school system right now needs to be changed? Everything is like that, though. Like, remember when I was talking about earlier with the emotional intelligence thing, everything, if you don't behave like a woman as a man, you're seen as bad in some kind of

Like if you want to go out and have nice cars, be able to sleep with attractive women, those are natural desires for men. Those are natural. But that's suppressed while a woman's natural desire to go out and try to hunt for the top guy, do whatever she wants to do, that's all embraced and powerful and pushed and promoted. So yeah, when it comes to the kids, you're not going to have a five-year-old boy sitting at desk. There's nothing wrong with a five-year-old boy that wants to move around. And putting him on opioids. Yeah, putting him on opioids isn't the best way to solve that problem. And, you know, when it comes to the Rothschilds, or the Rockefellers, I'm sorry,

they created the current education system. He created it with Dale Carnegie in Cahoot. They created it for the sake of building obedient workers. It's not for people that can consciously think for themselves. They want you to get used to being on a schedule. They want you to be used to shutting up. They want you to be used to getting on these opioids, listening to people and taking charge of people who have not even necessarily more experience in life than you do.

They want you to get used to that so that when you come out, you could be an obedient worker. And that's literally, word for verbatim, quoted what he said. So what he said. So, I mean, if you want to look into that

as far as the education system not being beneficial, especially for young boys, yeah, it's just a fact at this point. Yeah, you listen, but let's like speak on that pendulum,

right? So I've always stated this. Like, most oppressed class, right? We all start off on this end of the pendulum. And then eventually, it would hit that middle.

But then, you know, we will continue to press some shit until it goes the other way and now we're privileged and again you can't be privileged without somebody being underprivileged right? Now when it comes to feminism, women definitely

started off on this end, right? Where you know I believe the first wave was pushing for like voting rights and social rights the second wave was for professional rights and then eventually we got to a point now where we were equal and then they kept pushing now where if that

where do you think the pendulum is right now for like... Oh, it's extreme feminism. It's extreme. We're in a culture right now that's extremely feminized, definitely. I don't even think that's arguable. But when it comes to, like, feminism and its origin, when you talk about the right to vote, see, it's an interesting conversation because women didn't want the right to vote because

the right to vote came with the fact that you had to register for the draft. Oh, man. Yeah. So originally, women didn't want the right to vote. It was men that said, okay, we're going to let them vote and they don't have to register for the draft because they're women. So women have always had privileges in society. Let's not get back.

Men have fought and died by the hundreds of millions, historically speaking, to protect women and children. We build societies. That's what we do. We protect women and children. That's the reason why we build societies. We cater to women's natural negative emotional traits like depression and anxiety. And to cure that depression and anxiety and to help them out, we create a safe world. So men have been dying by the millions to protect women all throughout human history.

Absolutely. And the thing about feminism that makes me the most kind of not the one thing that makes me the most of it. But one thing that does make me upset about feminism is they try to teach a narrative that women have been drug along throughout history by these men that they never wanted to be a part of. And the truth of the matter is it was really men and women against nature. That's what all of human history has been. Men and women trying to make it safe enough to have children and to be and to have this glorious life and have these nice societies, buildings going up against nature, against. getting eaten and dying from it being too cold. You know what I mean?

So men have always had the burden of performance and we still do. And women have always had certain privileges that we're just not honest about. Like they'll say, like the feminism movement will say women were sexually suppressed or oppressed because men just couldn't handle a woman's strong sexuality or whatever. No, that's not the case at all. It's because pregnancy was dangerous. If you got pregnant in a time where if you get a cut, you got to cut your arm off and go find a hole to die in, having an open wound was dangerous, so you wanted to make sure that the man you were with was going to be around.

And that's why we created the institution of marriage. Marriage is almost exclusively beneficial to women and children. But they've said that, you know, men have oppressed. That's one of the reasons is because it was extremely dangerous. The second reason is because STDs. STDs were rampant. Siffless killed hundreds of millions of people, historically speaking, and it attacks women and children. So if you ever want to wipe out a society, allow for women to be promiscuous when there are viruses that can kill people.

And until 1950s, when men created penicillin to protect us from that and men created the birth control pill to protect women from having pregnancies that they didn't want to have, you know, you had to suppress female sexuality because a promiscuous life was almost guaranteed to wipe out civilization. Yeah. Yo, you're like here, right? So like speaking of like marriage, right? you know I never quite understood this concept right again like I'm African so we kind of do marriage a type of differently right but like I never quite understood like for example I would never enter into a business agreement with with with anyone if that business agreement incentivizes the opposing party to break it meaning like if they break it they'll be better off right so why do

we enter into marriage when right now listen modern marriage anyone woman who, you know, is married or, you know, in a long-term, you know, like, agreement with a successful guy, she's incentivized to break it. Yeah. So, one, or we ever going to get to a point where marriage becomes a thing of the past where, like, we, it's, it, it, with the light of it being a scam, gets, like, shines so fucking bright that that shit, you know, just don't even, you know, like, happen anymore. It had to shine bright because we got to a point where, where culture was so feminized

that women were being incentivized. and encourage to take advantage of men. Like you look at the city girls, pretty much what they're doing is promoting a lifestyle where women are able to extract resources from a man without reciprocating any value. And you are seen as a higher value woman,

the more you're able to extract resources from a man without giving him any value. That's why what a Simp is, is a man that's giving his resources to a woman that doesn't provide any value back to him. And that reciprocation could be in terms of hair cooking you a plate. If I got to be willing to die for you if somebody walks into the house,

you can make me a place. Let's just be completely honest. So, like, I just think that's one of the reasons I think that there's an attack on an American family because it's obvious that our marriage laws haven't caught up with women being in the workplace. And if we don't catch up, men are, we think more on logic. So when you start to look at the numbers and any good investor is going to look at the numbers, and when you see 50% divorce rating, you're going to, 50% of the time you're going to lose half your stuff, you're going to lose all of your assets, your kids, your house, your car.

it's just a bad bet. So there are a lot of men that are engaging in marriage because of the current laws and that's something that needs to be changed and nobody's addressing it because nobody wants

American families to exist because it's not profitable. Yeah, facts, man. You just like spoke on a simp. Now, who's more fixable? A simp or an in-sell? Who's more fixable? A simp or an in-sell?

Oh, that's tough. That's tough. It depends on what kind of, like, it depends. I think it depends on the person because if you're an in-cell and you actually want to take the steps to become better you can. Yeah.

And it depends on, like for the Sims, it depends because, well, I don't know because a Simps. A simple fight you, bro. Yeah. I don't know, bro. That's a good question, though. That's a good question. Right? Right.

Because look, because I always said this. Like, an insult, I can probably help, right? Because, again, like, if an insult is somebody who just is full of hate because they just can't get ass, right? But they're still on, on, like, our own, like, same, like, wavelength, right? Yeah. A Sim would tell you. Fuck you, nigga. I'm gonna be,

be the white night. A fucking simple kill you for trying to like tell him, bro, you're doing, bro, you're doing it wrong. That's because that's what he's been conditioned to do. And the thing is,

women will tell you to behave that way, even if they know it's not true. Like, women will tell you, oh, women will have you in the friend zone and say you're the best person. He's my best friend. He's my best guy

and will never date the guy because they're not completely honest about what they want. And it's because when women, they want the things, but they don't want have to say they want it. Like a woman who want flowers, but she ain't going to want to tell you that she wants flowers. So they want these guys that are a little bit more masculine and aggressive.

You could tell because those are the men that they end up dating. But when you have a guy and you can extract resources from them, oh, keep him in that spot all day. Because he's going to be the guy that you go and cry to and he's going to come fix your dresser whenever you want without you reciprocating any value or giving any effort towards him. So I understand why women enjoy scents because it's completely beneficial to him. But it's destructive for the guy that's in there that's stuck in that mentality because he's not getting anything of value reciprocated to him. It's that simple.

If a woman reciprocated value, you should treat her great. She's a great woman, blah, blah, blah. You should be with her, treat her nicely. But if she refuses to reciprocate value because she thinks that cooking and cleaning is oppressive, then you got to get rid of her. Yo, and sipping right now is so expensive because of the city girls, right? Look, like 25 years ago, right?

You, like, used to be able to simp and it'd be affordable. Meaning, like, you know, buying her like a Michael Coors, little watch for like $150 Cool. Nowadays, man, bro, I wish you would give a bitch a fucking Michael Corpse. She's going to laugh in your face. She wants the Chanel bag, the LV back, the Berkins. You feel what me? Bro, like, yo, at some point, something has to change, you know, because if females continue to be dysmaterialistic,

you know? But that's what they're conditioned to be because, again, these companies are promoting that you can find happiness through material goods. And that's what's keeping people ultimately sad. It's because everybody is chasing happiness. The thing is like, and when you chase happiness without wanting the struggle that comes with happiness, because anytime you're going to be actually happy and fulfilled, it comes with suffering beforehand.

If you want it to be genuine. If you want pleasure, though, doing drugs, alcohol, things that are bad, essentially everything that's bad for you, eating pizza, all those things, they give you pleasure, which is the, it's fake happiness, essentially, is momentary happiness, but it deteriorates you. So many people are being told to chase happiness, but are also being told, told to be comfortable and avoid struggle and avoid hardship and just sit down and be emotional. But those are two conflicting ideas because to be happy genuinely and to have genuine fulfillment, you have to suffer to some degree.

So we're pushing these ideas that make people more materialistic, that give people everything that they want in terms of drugs, alcohol, comfort, and tells them they're okay for having all of those things. And then we expect them to not be materialistic. Of course they're going to be materialistic. Especially when you have things like Instagram and now, Men are competing. It's more competitive than ever before for men because some girl in Venezuela with an iPhone

now has access to all of the billionaire men, not all of the billionaire men, but many millionaire men on the planet. So if you're a guy that's in a small town, you're competing against every guy on the planet now. And that's what made it more difficult. And women are very impressionable, especially when it comes to social ideas. That's why most of the punishment for women is social. So that's why when women want to get away from something, they first, First say don't judge, don't shame, don't, you know, do these things because the social aspect keeps them.

Slush shaman, yeah. Exactly. The social aspect keeps them responsible. So they want to get rid of the social aspect because women rely more on social circles to gain power and to continue to exist essentially. Yeah. So they rely more on the social aspect. And so women are very impressionable socially. So when they're on these apps all day scrolling because they're addicted to them for attention, you see city girls, a girl that you believe look like you. Why can't I have that nice thing?

Why isn't this pathetic man next to me providing me with the lifestyle that this girl's getting? I believe I deserve that too. So, you know, you just get to that situation. Here, right. So then when do, so where do hypergamy end and go dig and start? Meaning, like, again, like, we will tell women this, right? You'll listen, like, you should probably go for that good guy because he's going to be successful and take care of you. Right.

So that's natural hypergmy. Right. So where they should go after good men who is going to take care of them, right? but then where do the hypergmy end and where do go dig and start? I think okay that's a good question

I'm trying to I want to think because I don't want to Right look right Like like like um People will say you listen like Michelle Obama Yo she get listen bro She met Obama when he was a Harvard student

Bray Yeah again And he had nothing But women are very intelligent She knows listen he's a smart Good looking dude at Harvard He's gonna be something in four years, you feel me, right?

So, like, all women at some point, go, like, you know, like, dig for gold. So is gold digging just bad because it's like, they have no plans on giving something back? No, I think hypergamy, or, like, when you talk about gold digging, that's when the man has already reached the finish line. Yeah. So if you're there for the process, you're not really seen as a

gold digger, you might be a little bit of hypergamous, because women are generally hypergamous. They want to date equal to or up. Okay, so women are going to be hypergamous, but you become a gold digger when the man already has his value and the only thing that's attracting you to that man is the value that he's already worked hard to gain on his own.

Yeah. And then you actively seek out to kind of sabotage that value by taking it for yourself. Yeah. And it's a, it's a problem. The richest women in the world are all rich from divorce. Like, let's just be completely honest. Jeff Bezos won by $32 billion. That's crazy.

Not Jeff Bezos, but his ex-wife was like $32 billion. Bro, can you imagine, right? Again, and this kind of shows, right, like the difference between men and women, right? She got $40 billion or $32 billion and she wants to give it all away, relax, and just sit on like her low wealth, right? And date

and do charity work while Jeff Bezos has, like, has a concrete mindset of, yo, I got $100 billion. I ain't going to stop. I'm going, if I'm like, I'm going to keep going. Because his men just have a thing where once you get into that mode, you get into that drive, you're kind of unstoppable. So like, yeah, he wants to continue.

you to conquer because that's the that's what guys are in like we're inclined to do yeah you give a guy a way to make a hundred dollars every hour he's going to try to make 2400 dollars every single day you give a woman that same ability she might work two hours out of that day and go hey i'm good i'm chilling yeah because they don't have the natural drive to continue to compete that's literally what testosterone is it's it's you it's a hormone that promotes competition you like that's what test out it gives you a huge competitive advantage so when women are trying to compete with men in the workforce. One of the reasons why it's so hard for them is because they're just not naturally

designed to deal with the same amount of stress that a man is made to deal with because historically speaking, men have always had to compete. So life is just continuous competition to get your genes into the next generation of human beings. So that's what it is for man. Yo, like, how about sports, right? So like,

I think one of like your most, like, viewed video is you reacting to like, I think it's like a volleyball, man volleyball, or it was actually the men versus women. I know the one you're talking about. It was actually the men versus women in sports video. That one just got 12 million. But the one you're talking about, it has like $5 or $6 million and that's, yeah.

It was like netball. Yeah, there's some sport like netball or something. He got a bag, man. I'm broke, y'all. I ain't got nothing. Listen, just in case, just in case you're trying to figure out, right, go to your favorite YouTuber and tell me if they got just one video with $12 million, and $1,000 and $5 million.

But yo, here right, here right, but let's speak on that, right? It is, for me, it's kind of the catch 22, right? So we're like, we say, you know, they should compete in the sport designed for their biological gender, right? Mm-hmm. But we don't quite believe that, right? Because this, look, if a trans man, right, a female who's now taken testosterone, et cetera, et cetera, and trying to be a man, she now has an advantage over women. So should she compete with other women? if she's taking testosterone?

Yeah. I don't know if she should be allowed to compete with other women if she's taking Exactly, right, yeah. But there's a huge scale and there's a great area in there where you start to go one time out of millions of people this person took testosterone or had a little higher level testosterone should they not be able to compete. You know, that's a little different.

It's transitioning though, right? Right? That's a little different than a man with structural advantages because he's 6'5 and has the hands of a baseball club competing against the 5-2 woman. Like, this is a little bit different. Yeah. There's a question, though, Russell. Like, what's the solution for it then, like, Lachael Harris?

Should they just have their own league? Like a transgender league? Yeah. I don't think there even be enough competitors. Yeah. I think we just need to stop it. Like, ban them from, like, leagues or what? I think they can compete in sports, but when it comes to competing.

You can have, like, a smaller league locally or something where you do that. But we just need to stop. We got to stop. Like, we can't have guys competing against. Yes, that's what it. We can't have guys competing, ex guys competing against. now. What kind of guy wants to put on a wig and then go dominate women in sports? Like, think about the kind of man. Like, I'm a man, you a man, right? We know that we have

advantages over women. This is why we protect them. This is why we do certain things as men. Shilvery is because we understand that men are built different than women. Imagine a man, because he still has a man's mind going, I want to become a woman, not because they're beautiful, not because they're elegant, not because I admire the fact that they can carry life, but because I want to dominate them in sports. That's a little odd. Yeah, right? So, you know, it's a certain thing. mentality that comes with it but I just think when it comes to the transgender's sports it's not sustainable yeah like you we don't have to find a way to deal with

every small very small minority of people in and there there are about two percent of people that have actually gone through with the operation and have become trans yeah right we're trying to structure our society around that small two percent of people and we're messing up a lot of stuff so like with with with there are like three percent of people that are amputees and only have one foot But when they go into foot locker, they still got to buy two shoes. It's because you can't cater to, you can't make society cater to every single small minority. I'm sorry, that just comes with it.

So if you decide that you want to be a woman, you're a woman and you want to become a man or you're a man and you want to become a woman, sports ain't going to be a thing for you. That's simple. Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry. Like, what do you want to do? Or we're going to have to restructure our whole society in order to compensate for 2% of the population. It just doesn't make sense to me. Yo, definitely, man.

Here's hair. Oh, you're also too. Yo, tell me, like, when you discovered the mannosphere? Now, again, like, there's the manosphere, which is like the, I guess now is mainstream, right? Mm-hmm. And then there's the manned sphere, like, the niggins shit to where, like, it's like these, like 12, 15 men panels with like, with, like, 200 people watching, them going back and forth from doctors screaming. Everything late for hours, yeah, bro. That shit crazy, you know what?

So when did you, I guess, dive into the manosphere? I actually kind of stumbled into it because I was just having conversations that I would normally have with my boys. And I think that if men are in social circles with other strong competitive men and they have honest conversations about what they actually desire in the world

and what the world is actually like, you'll come to more red pill conclusions, generally speaking. So I just kind of stumbled into it by having conversations with my audience that I have with my friends. And so that's kind of why, like, the poor man's podcast and the whole setup, Like, I do all of my editing on my phone.

Really? Yeah, all of my editing, all of my recording. I do everything on my phone. Oh, wow. It's very, like, it's a small operation where I'm doing everything myself. And it's because I want to keep it organic. I wanted to feel like a conversation with a guy that's kind of interesting that you might have just met at a bar or that you could have a couple beers with.

Because that's what I am. I'm a regular guy. Wait, though, right? It's the mic like, for prop? Yeah, well, I have the mic. I have the mic. So, when I first started, I should say when I first started, I actually had an app called Droid Cam where I would.

put the USB in and you can hook it into your computer and use it as a webcam. So I did that at first. And I would do the editing on there. And yeah, so I do have lights and stuff now, like a couple lights. But it's a very... You're going Hollywood, P&P.

Come on, man. Got lights and shit down there. Got the bike a little, man. But yeah, some people are pushing for me to do like higher quality projects. And maybe I'll do that eventually. Yeah. But right now, I think the organicness

of the channel kind of helps. I think it makes people interested And what I say this though. Like you definitely now put more effort in your thumbnails. Yeah. Right? Because, bro, starting off. But I do those on my phone too.

But yeah. Listen, it was the same exact picture or face of you doing the. Yeah. You feel me? Yeah. And then like whatever you're filming into the video is. Yeah. Yo, now.

But now you're actually like, you know, or like putting more effort into it. But bro, like, why not just like outsourced that shit? You feel what I mean? Like. It's because I like to be hands-on. I like to do it myself. You ranch now, man. I don't know.

Man, look. I'm going to say like this. Yeah, but there's a certain part of it where it feels like I'm creating something with my own hands and I take pride in it. And when it's done, I get to go look at what I've done. You know what I mean? So there's that aspect of it. And like with the thumbnails, I've become, like, I became better because I looked into what makes a good thumbnail because the first picture, it's going to create some controversy because you have to draw an emotional response. That's how people click on videos.

People like to act like even with the media They'll go Kim why do they show us Kim Kardashian's but it's because that's what you click on You give people care that you give people cheetos Most people are gonna take the Cheetos So you gotta lure them in with the good thumbnails and and just having like faces on your thumbnails Faces are important because it makes people stop So like even Rolex when they sell watches they put the face on they put the hands on 10 and 2 To make more of a smiley face

So it draws the eye naturally So like just looking at little things like like that, those are things that I researched into myself. And I take pride in making the art myself, but I do understand what you're saying. At some point, it has become more tough to deal with other things that I'm doing as far as investments, having a family, especially potentially bringing in a kid maybe soon. Yeah. At 27, not, but that's too young for a kid, man. You think so?

Yeah, listen, right? Because, like, I'm 24, right? Bro, I can't even picture myself, like, having a kid right now, man. Yeah, I mean. Because right now, like, like, I'm grinding with people. purpose, bro. Like, I can't, like, you feel me?

Like, stop what I'm doing. That's because it's a little bit harder. You used to be able to work at a factory for 50 years and have enough money to sustain a whole entire family. So I understand why more men are waiting later in life to make sure they have that security before they have a family. Like, some women will be like, why doesn't you want to marry me? And they don't understand that men understand how important being able to provide for

your family is. So if you're not in a position where you feel like you can provide for your family and you don't want to get married because you don't feel like you're in that position, you know that's a responsible man to me until you get there you know no if females don't like don't like truly understand like again

some women don't like don't truly understand I guess the value of that dollar right like like look like again right like my girl will say yo listen I want this LV back cool here two weeks later

oh my God Tethler's doing a second here right but like that's just like So, like, that bags just, like, cost them like a four racks. Yo, like, you don't know how much hours I got to put it on, on my YouTube. Comment, do this, right? Just to make, like, what, 15, 20 racks a month? 4K go to that shit.

That's like a fourth of my eight come going. Yeah. But, like, they just think, y'all, like, oh, you know, and, like, he got it. Yeah, it's because they don't have to compete for it. They don't have any reason to care because women sit and wait and reap the benefits. That's kind of what they do. They are important because they motivate men to. continue to build and protect societies and they choose the men for the next generation of society

builders. So they are important in that aspect and that is a very important part of humanity. But yeah, women sit around and wreak the benefits. That's why when you see a lot of the community programs, women push for that stuff because they're more egalitarian and everybody should just have everything even if they don't have to work for it because they don't have to compete for procreation. Men understand that off the rip, if you ain't got it, you ain't got it and you better find a way to get it if you ever want to be taken serious. Because men, you're not. You're not. You You could live your entire life and nobody will give a shit about you. Like a woman, you could be a too overweight, obese, never have put any effort into your life,

but you can still go into a club and get some attention. There are guys, there are 80% of guys. You're going to go tend to a lot of this. Exactly. 80% of guys will go into that same club and no matter how much work they put into themselves, well, some of the ones that haven't put as much work into themselves, they're never going to get any attention. And women don't have an understanding of how genuinely lonely men can become

because they don't really have to compete under those same environments because it's more, I'm just going to wait around and wait for the perfect guy. And like certain mentalities that they have come from the fact that they don't have to compete for reproduction. And that's a big part of it. You're sitting, can I get two waters, please?

Yeah, yeah, bro. God, the goddamn what? It's been what, like, yeah, bro. My fucking mouth was driving. Yeah, too. You start to talk and you can see like that. Yeah, man. My mom drives a motherfucker, big guy.

Listen, bro, listen, man. and like this camera is seeing my like Negro, chap-ass lips and shit. Come on, man, you feel me? Nah, yo, here, right? But who was the first, like, big content creator in the Manistphere, though, to embrace you? First big one, I think was O'Shea Duke Jackson. Shout out to him. That man is, I mean, you talk about, I love O'Shea.

You talk about Kevin Samu's being the godfather. This man is the guy behind the scenes illustrating and making sure everything goes smoothly and uniting people together under the same kind of movement. And even with Kevin Samuels, he was the guy that brought Kevin Samuels into the Manosphere and was one of the original people that gave Kevin Samuels a platform when Kevin Samuels had nobody looking at him. So, yeah, O'Shea Duke Jackson. And I actually had Kevin.

O'Shea is in like, so, no, so like speak on O'Shea though. So like, and his story is captivated. So he eventually said, yo, fuck this westernized bullshit, bro. Like, we out of here. Bro, we go into these African countries, getting these bad African women for like $10 bucks in our pocket. Letting. Now, like, speak on that though, man.

So, like, how beneficial, like, do you think that is for, like, American men to say, yo, listen, like, our women are here, they're, like, not submissive. They're not being cooperative. We are gone and going back to Uganda, Kenya, or wherever they are, and getting those foreign women and live in there. Yeah, I mean, I don't see anything wrong with that. Yeah. You get a, uh, those men are exercising their options as they should.

Women are competing in a global marketplace, too. So you got women that'll go and, and they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, get on Instagram and talk to a millionaire in Miami. No problem with her to fly out and go get a millionaire in Miami. But when a millionaire in Miami goes, I don't like the options around me because a lot of these women are spoiled. They grow up with a certain mentality that they're oppressed, even though they have certain benefits that they just can't see, whatever it may be.

And he wants to go to another country. Now he's deemed bad. So everybody's competing. And I think those dudes are just exercising their options. And when it comes to traditional values, when you go to countries that don't have the luxury that we have, you find out that they value their men a lot more. because they're not in a situation where they have to.

Yeah. Here, but where like, I guess like my issue comes, again, is now with O'Shea, it's the other content creators, right? Because I never truly seen O'Shea do this, right? Is these dudes, you know, like who, you know, I probably got like 20,000, 30,000 followers, right? They will go to these in other countries and say, yo, I'm about to show y'all how to Mac.

Bro, these women are hungry, starving. They're gonna go home with any nigger with $5 for them. Right? So, like, how do you feel like when you see like these dudes, you know, content creators showing men how to Mac and talk to women overseas? Like, you know, giving us, like, perception that they're just like all-world Mac daddies. When not, bro, like, you're just overseas talking to poor women. Yeah, I don't really like maybe the perception that you're a Mac daddy.

Yeah. This is bad. But, I mean, that's what it is, though. The guy with the resources that or that can provide you a certain lifestyle is the one that women are going to go for, whether it's just a little bit more expensive in America. So if you don't have those resources yet you want to be treated like a man of value, because although you're not a millionaire, you still have good values, you're still consistent, you're still disciplined. Just because you're not a millionaire doesn't mean you don't deserve to have a wife that values you.

So, you know, if those guys are just going to get a woman that values them, I can't knock them for that. But it is a little weird when you try to act like it's just your game. Let's be honest, it's some of the resources play a part of that too, but that's open. because the resources play a part everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, speaking on, like, the quote-unquote, like, self-improvement, how to get laid content, right?

Now, I feel like the Simps and themselves, bro, they're being passed back and forth, like, horse, right? Meaning, like, these, like, only fans chicks, they had their, like, pockets and wallets, simps. Right? They had the Simps' pockets and wallets on lock. Yeah. And then the self-improvement guys, right? Again, not the real, was like the, you know, like the pimps.

Like, they come and say, yo, listen, bro, don't spend on money and on a woman. Hell not. Bro, listen, bro, listen, listen, listen, don't buy the only offense, no. Come and give me nine, 900 bucks on my course

on how to get, you know, finer or like, you know, more in shape or how to get laid for free, right? To me, that shit is just like, both sides are just passing back and forth these, like, simpson insults and, like, exploiting them, So, like, what's your take on that, man?

Like, these dudes charging $1,000 for these, these, like, you know, these, like, e-books on how to get laid? It depends on how effective it is. And if you've actually put forth effort in your, your, it's about your, what's the word I'm looking for? It's about your intent. Like, if your intent is to just make money off dudes that are in a miserable position, obviously you're a piece, a piece of shit. But if your intent is to actually help these guys, but some of these guys don't want to help themselves because it actually takes work and it takes suffering and being uncomfortable, well, then that's on that. them. So they can spend the $1,000 on the course, but if they don't apply the things in the course, that's

on them. So I'm for a free marketplace, and I think that if you want to go and spend your money to give to some girl, that's on you, if that's what you want to do, but I wouldn't promote it because I don't think that it's going to be any good for you. And it's kind of gay. Yeah, it's kind of gay because you're giving it to girls, and those girls are managed

by men that are sitting there typing you at night while you're saying, oh, I'm beating my meat to you or whatever. It's a guy on another line. Black China. Come on. China ain't messaging you. Let's just be completely off. That's kind of gay. No.

No, right. Look though. I was even like more gay. Bro, it's the strangest thing ever, right? Guys will pay for these like request videos, right? Yo, here, you know, you're like, here's a hundred bucks.

I want to see you suck somebody's dick. Yeah. What the? Bro, why don't you pay for that? Men have become so weak that you're willing to pay a woman astronomical amounts of money. To not even get any physical connection. This in the past, you pay a prostitute, you get a little something.

You're paying a prostitute. You at least get a little something. You're paying a strip, but you get a little dance. Y'all giving these women thousands of dollars, and they're not even giving anything to you. Just a little digital picture or whatever it may be. You won't even get no pleasure from that. So that's on them, no. Yo.

But the thing is, the social media companies promote it and they don't do anything about it because it's also profitable for them. So you get the resources from the women, or you get money from women by selling them leggings, and you get money from men by having women there because that's what all companies do. Like clubs, nightclubs, you got a bunch of guys huddled in there trying to attract a couple of women that walk in. You get the women in there. You try to give them free drinks. You try to give them free drinks. You try to give them free entry to get the women in there because you know the guys are going to stick around.

Then you charge the men a thousand percent for Amsterdam. Like a $20 bottle is now $250 because the women are there. The women are the product. So with the social media sites, again, you want to make a safe environment for women. So you can continue to get women on there because of women are there. Men are going to come and men are going to stay. Like clubs. Yeah.

It's just like clubs. Yeah. But speaking on like pay for play, there was a big, like, it was a civil war. Like, damn there, right? Like, we're like both content created. I think Fresh and Fit and, like, Abba and Peace, right? Where, like, they were, like, pretty much like just going back and forth and on the alliology of pain for, like, pussy, right? Where I think Abba and peace say, yo, listen, man, there's anything wrong with it.

Cool. Fresh and fits, said absolutely not. And then both sides kind of, like, went, like, back and forth, like, trying to expose, like, why the other side is flawed or wrong. So what's like your take on men buying Pussy? Prostitution. I think for Because I get what fresh and fitter coming from

They're probably saying more from the lines of When you want, when you pay for it You don't get the skills necessary to continue to get it So you're just going to keep putting yourself At a financial deficit to pay for something That's just you get an hour Is what it is. So I understand their argument

But also you're paying for it because you get a better product Yeah There's also quality that come with it, and you don't have to deal with many of the consequences that comes with dealing with some random woman on the streets. You don't, if you're a man in a certain position, you don't have to worry about that girl going and telling your fiancé or your wife because she's in the business too. And if you start outing people, you get blackballed from that business. So, you know, I understand kind of both sides of it. I mean, I don't really have an opinion as far as, like, judging people on it because I understand both sides. But, yeah, I thought that I know what you're talking about.

talking about though and I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, right. So listen, I'll be real, man. Like, in terms of paying for it, now, either, again, like, either way, right, we're going to pay for it in some way, some form. Or rather than not, that's like, five, 10 dates, spend about, like, what, 70 to or $200 for a date,

times that by 10, it's like $700 right there, right? You know, you know, so like, at some point, listen, man, like just paying for it, getting out the way is better than, like, than, like, that, like, hassle of a me happen to like talk to you and on the phone. Hours, wasting hours. You feel me? Or you could be productive and yeah, I get that too. That makes sense. It could be an investment

depending on what kind of guy you are. But if you're a guy working at a factory wig at $20 an hour and you spend your $200 check on a You know, you're not bad at that point. You said, you know, so that in that sense it would be very destructive. But if you're a man that has a whole bunch of resources and you don't, you know, you want a good service that is, you know, under some

umbrella to make sure that you're protect it from STDs and you don't want it to get back to your wife it's a little bit more understandable but yeah if you're giving your last to some woman yeah that's crazy wait right here right so I'm African

right so monogamy you know back home you know like it's a thing again again like most men are monogamous back home right well they enter into these like monogamous agreements

but they probably cheat right you know but like here, right? You know, I never quite understand why the polygamy is just alright, man.

Now, do you think that most men should be, like, should be monogamous or if you have the resources enough to take care of three, four,

five women, two women, you should be able to, like, do so. That's question. That's, it's tough

because I understand the benefits of monogamy for children, especially. Yeah. And that's pretty much who would benefit the most women

and children protects them and gives them some sort of safety, especially with the institution of marriage coming into play. But also with polygamy, again, and I say when we were talking about the women on women thing and women being more adept to being around women because

they share men, historically speaking, they have. I understand that too. If there's a man that's valuable, I can't say what a woman wants. I am a feminist. I believe that women should be able to make their own choices. So if a woman wants to go be the ninth baby mother of future, that's her prerogative. Now, is it going to be good for the kids?

in the long term, I don't, I think that the studies show for sure that a two-parent household where the man is around quite often and the woman's there is the best beneficial for kids. And it's probably the best for making sure that there aren't a lot of sexless men because that's what we're happening, that's what's happening right now. We're moving into polygamy.

Like we could call it a bunch of things, we could call it whatever we want, but we're in a situation now where most of the women want a small minority of the men and so there's a lot of sexless men. And when you have a tribe, say if you have a tribe with 100 people, 50 men 50 women and the tribal leader takes all of the women, what incentive do those men now have to

go fight a war or be productive or do whatever, all the things that I talked about earlier. So that part of polygamy can also be destructive. So it's like, but the thing is- Is monogamous? Yeah, I'm monogamous. Okay. Yeah, I don't, yeah. Yeah, I don't. Hair, right, because the reason why I, right, like I asked, right, Godfather Kevin Sandus.

Mm-hmm. You know, I think one of, again, I don't want to, like, misquote the Godfather. But like where men who reach a certain level should have more like, you know, like should have like more options. And like it's outright ludicrous for a pretty girl, you know, to like think that just her looks and her cooking and cleaning and being submissive that that should entitle her to that high value guy, right? Yeah. So why did you choose to be monogamous? For me personally, it's because I want to have the best environment for my kids. I want my children to be mini-meas.

I don't want a situation where I'm in this ghetto polygamy where I get my wife pregnant, where my girlfriend pregnant, she goes off and is with some other dude, and that guy is now imprinting his values on my old girlfriend and now my kid. I don't want that. I want my kid to be mini-meas. And I think right now in Western civilization, that's the best way to do it. But when it comes to polygamy in general and men at the top exercising those options, the problem is people focus on the shoulds instead of what just is.

And the truth of the matter is when men get a certain amount of value, more women want them, they have more sexual opportunity. And because men are sexual opportunists, they take part of it sometimes. So I'm not saying that it's a good thing, but it's just the reality of it. And so when society or culture has taught women that you're going to be able to go out and get some guy that he's able to go in and build a Fortune 500 company, or he's able to go ahead and build his own brand or be able to be able to. dictate over all these people and have these conversations with owning a company essentially, but he's just going to come home and be submissive to you. That's an illusion. That's not even the same kind of guy.

Or when you teach them that there's this billionaire man or a millionaire man that if you just wait long enough, he's going to come and take care of you and only you. Statistically speaking, that just isn't true. And it isn't going to be the reality for most women. But most women believe in it so much that they're willing to wait and even be alone until their 40s because they just believe in it so much, but it's, it's rhetoric. Yeah, man.

It's never been that way, historically speaking. Any man of any value, historically speaking, has always had multiple women. Should it be that way? I don't know, but it definitely is. Yo, like, I think Ganges Khan probably, like, impregated, like, 40% of the population. Bro, it's like, something of, like, 0.01% of all Chinese people have Genghis Khan.

Yeah. Like, that's crazy. I know, right? But that just is what it is. And what people will do is they'll go, men are bad for that why are men going and and sleep with other women but the women are also choosing to sleep with that man keep in mind knowing that there are other women involved usually they know that there are other women involved but they still want to do it because women also have a biological imperative too and it's to get as many get as much

resources and get the security of a of a more aggressive more masculine man yeah so you know so there's two sides to that to that equation you know and you can easily just point out the bad in the guys for to exercise their options, but you got to look at the women, too, that choose to be a part of it. And many women will say that they won't, but they will. Now, you know, facts, man. Now, speaking of Kevin Samuels, right? I think, like, you kind of, like, summed it up, like, in the most perfect way, right? I think you said, like, yo, like, Kevin Samuels and it's McDonald's, right?

Where's, like, this, like, concept, this, like ideology has always been here, but he just created, like, this, like, system, right? Right? Right. That's perfect. You know, and, like, with, with, like, that being said, which is why I never quite understood why women were celebrating his death. Yeah, that was weird.

As if, like, that reality is just going to go away because Kevin Samuel's passed away. No, right? Like, that ideology is still here, right? Right? So, like, so one, tell me, where were you when you found out his death? Because I know, like, there was like a few hours there where we didn't know nothing. Yeah. Yeah, right?

Yeah. So where were you when you found out Kevin Samuel's passed away? I was actually recording a video. And when I record, I always put my phone on Do Not Disturb. So by the time the news had broke. I looked at my phone and I've seen people post the RIP Kevin Sons I'm like what like

Why don't we know anything? So I called MTR and I called I think I called O'Shea 2 And when me and MTR was going back and forth What became questionable and what started To concern me and I was telling them this I was like Why hasn't he said anything? Like it's one thing to

Let the rumor go and Then make a video later But when you have people close to you or you have family Like MTR and O'Shea are really really close to Kevin Samson. I'm more distant. I've kind of always been more lone wolfy, but they're really close to Kevin Simmons, and if I had an allegation

that I passed away, I would at least make sure that my immediate friends and family know that that's not true so that they can have a peace of mind. So when he wasn't responding to anybody's messages, when he hadn't spoken to MTR, O'Shea, that's what I started to get concerned. Like, I'm hoping that he's going to pop up

today and go, fuck all y'all for thinking that I'm dead, I'm still here. But unfortunately, he really did pass away, bro. And That was crazy, man. It's crazy. Me and MTI on talk about that to this day. It's just crazy. It kind of feels like his career was kind of like, yo, and he was here for such a short

amount of time that he just did so much work so he can just leave kind of like a blueprint for like, yo, this is how things should be. It's kind of crazy. Right. Like to like talk about him in the past tense, bro, that shit blows my mind. But like when you seen seeing him pass a. way, and then you've seen women celebrating that shit. What was like your, like your like first reaction?

Because you was actually grieving as well. Yeah, it was disgusting because this man came along and told black women that you should marry before you carry, essentially, marry before you carry. I know you want this high value man because everybody's telling you to be hypergamous, but are you willing to deal with the things that comes with being with a high value man? That's what the message was. It wasn't you can't get one. The message was more like it's very statistically speaking, it's very unlikely that you get one.

And if you do get one, are you ready to deal with the reality that comes with being with one? Are you ready for him to not be able to spend as much time with you because he's busy? Are you ready for him to maybe be exercising other options with women? Are you ready for him to be a little bit more distant? Are you ready to be submissive because if he runs a company, he's probably going to want to run his own family? So are you ready for those things? And it made women look into the mirror and have to reflect on their own life decisions. and I don't think that a lot of people like that.

So when Kevin Samuel's pass, who taught women those things and taught black men that we can work, we could be successful too. We just got to be willing to work together and continue to be disciplined and structure our lives in a way that's going to push us in that direction. But you get guys that are rappers, they die or they go to jail and it's RIP.

Everybody's screaming RIP, free him. We got people that have committed murders in our community. And the women in that community will worship them so much because of the, aggressive nature and like that's what we'll talk about that later maybe but yeah but like you you got those women that are these men who are

said bitch shake that ass yeah fuck these bitches I'll slap these bitches around I beat on bitches blah blah blah blah fuck it with my glop exactly that nigger shit Kevin Samuels giving us small messages maybe it comes with a little controversy because sure you have to make it entertaining that's part of media

nobody's gonna watch it or listen to the message if it isn't entertaining sure I get it he may have said some things that you don't like but the majority of the message was positive and you have women instead of reflecting on the things that he said celebrating his death because they don't have to hear it anymore even though like you said it's

still true but when it comes to other like rappers they'll say RIP or free him we prioritize the men we are obsessed with the men that are part of the problem in our culture as African Americans and that's a huge problem but listen

please speak on that right because so listen so like we just did like a live show, right? A No Jumpper live show. And like they came back and told me, yo, listen, there were 1,500 people and in that building screaming, fuck Flaco. Yeah.

Why? Because Flacco has said, yo, listen, there's a percentage of our community. And, you know, again, it's not all black men in our community, right? Because, again, most black men in our community are good men. Yeah.

But there's a percentage who creates so much chaos and destruction that our communities become so fucked up that, you know, like, we should not glorified, you know, and, like, praise those men, right? Like, for example, like, guys like King Vaughn, who is being investigated for 10-plus murders,

who, who, right, like, and his friends is even coming out saying, yo, he woke me up at 6.30 in the morning, put on a backpack and said, yeah, let's go kill these niggas, like, you know, I got to drop on them. And they should not be celebrated. But, but, again, I get mad love too, but there's still people in our community who's screaming

fuck flacco because they don't, like, they don't agree or they think that I'm too hard on that particular bunch of people who was caused so much chaos and destruction in our community. Why do you think people hate flackle for, for like that message, man? Well, it's a uncomfortable reality. And like I said before, we worship the men that are part of the problem in our culture. And we prioritize them too. you look at a situation and I'm not saying that Future's a bad guy

I'm just using this example because he's somebody that we all know this man has nine kids now 10 kids so we'll say the man is the problem in that situation future you're a bad guy because he went out he's sexually irresponsible he's a bad guy but what about the nine women after the first baby mother

that knew that he was having kids and not marrying these women those were all willing participants so in that situation you have one sexually irresponsible man but then you have 10 women that wanted to be with this sexually irresponsible man. And I'm only using this idea of future again because we know him. I could go back to the hood. I know a dude that barely got a job.

Got three different baby mothers. How did three different women say this man is good enough to get me pregnant or to sleep with me? And not only sleep with me, I'm going to carry his baby to term. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? So like we have to point out the sexual irresponsibility when it comes to our women and be completely honest about that. And 60% of African American men are in the middle class or above. So we're doing well. You just have to be willing to go and find one that's regular.

The only problem is men in our community that have traditional family values are deemed as lame or boring or he ain't. A mark. Or he ain't enough. Exactly. And so you get this situation where women are attracted to these overly aggressive men. And then what happens is men now want to be more overly aggressive because those are the men that are getting the sexual opportunities. What people have to realize is that men are built hardwired. Fuck the resources and all the other stuff. Men are built to chase sexual opportunity to get our DNA into the next generation of people.

So we're going to do whatever we're supposed to do. We're going to do whatever it takes to get that to happen. So if all the women are sleeping with guys that are murderers, guys are going to become murderers. If all the women are sleeping with doctors, if every woman in the black community said, we're only going to sleep with men who make 50K or above, 60 care above, you would have to in order to procreate so men would step up to the plate. But because you require nothing, you're going to get nothing. And when I say like prioritize, I'm not only talking about sex.

I'm also talking about socially. Like if we got, I'm going to say Chris over here, he going to college, we can't find no money to get him a car. But if his brother, Steve, go get locked up for some shit he did that he knew he wasn't supposed to do. We all finding bail money. We're picking up the money trying to get bail money. So, you know, we prioritize these men. And we need as a culture some kind of set of rules or laws that we have to abide by. And so like in the Jewish community, I'll say,

the Asian community specifically. Leave them juice alone. Yeah. Yeah. In the Asian community, though, and I'm from Minnesota, and there's a lot of Hmong people in Minnesota, so those are people from Thailand and Laos. And they're so strong on their traditional values that if you sleep with one of them women, you better be ready to get married because they will show up to your door about

it. Like the men are not playing in that community. If you want to be permissible, if you want to sleep around at a young age, you're going to step up to the plate and be a man now says you want to act like a man. That's how they work. But in our community, we just let everything. fly. Anybody can do whatever they want and we're allowed and they are allowed back into us with embrace. That's crazy.

You go into the Asian community and you're a woman, you get pregnant out of wedlock, gone. You go into the white community. You get pregnant by somebody they don't want you get it pregnant by. Generally, gone. You go and you make certain decisions that put you in a bad position. The family isn't going to drag themselves down by your bad decisions. They're going to put their resources towards the people that have promoted themselves towards the people that have prioritized their life in a good way,

and then they're going to get rid of those guys that are problems. But in our community, we embrace those guys, and we need a set of code and rules. Like, okay, the Jewish community, they represent 0.02% of the global population, but they have 25% of all Nobel Peace Prizes. Seven out of the 10 richest people on the planet are all... That's crazy, isn't it?

Seven out of the 10 richest people on the planet are all Jewish. Why? Because they have certain... religious laws that you're not a father and you're not a man until you do these things. So as a kid, between the age of two and three, they're already teaching them the alphabet and basic mathematics. So they're teaching them to prioritize education. At the age of 13, for a boy to become a man and for a man to be considered a good father by Jewish religious law, he has to teach his son a trade. So now that son can build something with his own hands.

And so when you have a trade, the more you do something, the more you get paid for it. You know what I'm saying? And you can find your own opportunities. You don't have to go to the people that you think hate you, like white America, like black folks are complaining that white America hates them, but then say, why don't they give us reparations? Why would you wait for the people you think hate you to give you something? So what you do is you create an environment where people have their own trades,

they're more responsible because they can build things with their hands. And they feel like they are of value because they have value to offer. You're only valuable if you have value to offer. And a trade is a great way to have value. Not only that, but it's scalable. Again, the more you do it, the more money you can make from it, the better you get at it. So it's like they have built an environment and a machine through religious law and cultural norms and expectations that put pressure on their kids to perform. We don't have that in our community.

We just go, whatever you do, whatever you want to do. You go out here, shoot people. Rob a killer, drug dealer. Exactly. Mama's still going to be there. You're talking about he's a good boy. Exactly. And part of that problem is there's no masculine, there's no masculine influence in the households.

And I think by and large, that is a reper that is a repercussion of certain government programs that have been put into place to separate the man from the family. And I think it's been embraced by a certain mentality amongst our women, especially when it comes to feminism. Which I don't understand why they support in the first place because feminism was never for our women. Black women didn't give the right to vote when white women got the right to vote. They got the right to vote when we got the right to vote. The lady that was all for abortion I'll get her name too but I'm sure y'all can look it out

Markersinger? Yeah, Margaret Singer. She was absolutely racist. She was absolutely racist. She was a part of something called the Negro Project where they talked about getting rid of unwanted people. You could go look this stuff up. She was the woman that got she was the creator. I planned parenthood. Yeah, Planned Parenthood. So like you this stuff is all rooted in racism yet our women will say the other people are racist and we should point out the bad parts of them and and subjugate or like get rid of like the Republican Party

for adversary mentality, but they don't, they're, they're biased when it comes to other other communities that have pushed those mentalities into our community. Yo, like, and it's absolutely, bro, like, that's right, right? Because the first, like, feminist convention, I think was Seneca Falls. Yeah, you're right about that. Right? I dare any black women to find me one photograph, one record that shows a black woman being at Seneca Falls.

They weren't there, right? No. Right? So like it was, again, so this whole movement, it was crafted by white women for white women, but somehow our women think it's, you know, it's for them, right? And like, that's crazy right now too. Also, too, man, like, so let's speak on this, right? Like, black women now wanting just regular guys, right? I have a theory, right?

You know, so like, here's my theory, right? So black women, they grew up in, you know, like these environments where it's tumultuous, it's traumatic, right? So growing up in these environments, they automatically have. to be tough. So as a woman, once you're tough, right, you don't lose that like will to be dominated, right? So once you're tough due to the environment that, let's say, you know, the criminals and hellums created, you know, like grow like a tough skin, but you still don't lose that, like, that like will and like desire to be dominated. So you automatically go for men who can dominate you, which are usually the hyper-aggressive men, which are usually the thugs.

See, the only problem, and I've kind of thought about that too, and I've heard people talk about that. And the only problem I have with it is when we were facing the most scrutiny as the black community, we had the highest marriage rate percentage. We were jumping the broom during slavery. And even when you look at communities now, like the Hispanic community, they have a lot of violent crime and you go look down in Mexico. Violent crime is crazy. Crime against women is crazy, yet they still have high marriage rates. So I'd be thinking, like, you know, I've heard that argument before, and that's kind of like my pushback on it. Why are other communities that are also in a,

because African American men make a little bit more than Hispanic American men, yet they still have a higher rate of marriage. So, you know, that's like, if the excuse is that you come from a bad neighborhood, we've always had that historically speaking. And the Hispanic community, they have that too, yet they still have high marriage rates. Yeah. So, like, let's speak on black women, right? So you have one of, like, one of, like, the most, like, profound, like,

I don't know if it's a speech or soliloquy, right? But you was just like going off. You're listening, bro. Like, as black men, we are living up to like, again, like, y'all was telling us for years how we and shit, how we're absent fathers. We're being incarcerated. We are correcting that, right? We're like the incarceration rate is going down. From 2016 to 2021, I believe, it decreased by like 34%.

Damn. Something crazy like that. I don't remember this. What is black women going to step up then? But you can. Well, that's what we're going to be. waiting for. We're waiting for the point that we can build our families again. And what that's going to take is for black women to stop looking at the guy they see on Instagram as the archetypal

guy that they want to be with. Because I have a theory too when it comes to women dressing a certain way and behaving a certain way. It's because they see the men that are promoted to them essentially rappers, actors, and entertainers with those women online. So they think they have to look like those women or act like those women in order to get that archetype of guy. Not really understanding that that archetype of guy ain't going to make you happy. He ain't going to be the guy that sticks around and takes care of your children and puts you, you know, in a good place mentally. So, you know, we have certain things with our culture right now that promotes women to take

advantage of men in every way they can possible. And it starts, like the music is horrible with it. But I don't hold the artists responsible for that because I think that as grown adults, you should be able to see reality from interoperable. So and when you are in an environment where people will watch you starve and die on the side of the road and you can now make millions of dollars through rapping and the stuff that people actually want to hear, we're just completely honest. The stuff that people want to actually hear is this message. I can't really knock you for promoting that message. But I can knock people for taking entertainment and thinking that it's reality and trying to behave in a way that is going to not be good for them. Yeah. Essentially. Yo, I want to touch on Jordan Peterson.

Now, I'm going to say this. I discovered Jordan Peterson actually through your videos, right? Right? So, like, it's kind of crazy, too. So, like, what's your thoughts on Jordan Peterson? Like, just general thoughts? I think that he is necessary in the time. I think that he is very pro

accountability. He's very pro. The way we fix the world is by you first fixing yourself. Yeah. And getting your own life together. and if everybody decides to do that, the world will actually be a good place. Yeah.

Because a lot of people will go, a lot of people will promote certain ideas when really they're just virtue signaling. So they'll promote, to appear to be a better person, they'll say, we need to save the planet, and then they'll fly on a private jet or they'll take an airplane. You know what I'm saying?

So like there's a certain, Jordan Peterson in particular, he just promotes accountability. He tells people that if you want the best life for yourself, suffering is necessary. That's just part of it. And responsibility is more important than happiness because responsibility will bring fulfillment. Yeah, of course.

Here, right. So, like, even with, you know, with the rep community, man, like, there's men who are disguising themselves as thought leaders and people who are trying to, you know, like save something, right? When, in fact, you know, like, they're all about a dollar. Now, now we're joining Peterson, man, where I kind of knew, yo, this man truly gives a fuck. Like, he really wants to change. you know he was crying talking about lonely men the in cells and men who just you know are being stifened and suppressed and then when he was getting emotional and almost tearing up that clip is now going viral and people are out here laughing and calling him weak right so like what's your

thoughts thoughts like when you see people i guess like clowning him crying talking about vulnerable men yeah those are the same people that would tell men that it's okay to cry yeah that's crazy Those are the same people that would say, we care about men's mental health, and it's just a crock of shit. I think that you should teach men to be stoic because, like I said earlier, the emotional, when men act on their emotions and are taught to be overly emotional, they forget how to control them, while stoicism teaches you to control your emotions. And of course, there are times when your emotions seep out and you do get a little bit overly emotional. And I wouldn't even say overly emotional. You're very passionate about something, and it bleeds out. I get that.

But, again, it's hypocrisy because those are the same people that will say they can. care about men's mental health when really especially when it comes to the women that say that they know it's a crock of shit because the only men that they're okay to cry it's not it's not it's not it's not even that it's not even that it's not okay to cry it's just that there's a time and place for everything yeah um and if you're a man that is ruled by your emotions you still live in a competitive environment so if you're going to allow your emotions to not let you get up and go to the gym then you're just going to be less competitive than the other men and the women are picking the most, it's, competition is fierce.

It's a blood sport right now. Especially now. And the women are picking the, yeah, and the women are picking the guys that got it all together. And if you're a guy that gives into your emotions and listens to women and listen to women and say you're allowed to cry and stay inside and be depression emotional because, you know, I think that you're, I think when it comes to like, and Andrew Tate talks about this a little bit, I will say that. But I think when it comes to depression specifically, it's, I would never, I would never

adopt that mentality because it puts me in a position where I'm allowed to give up and I can justify it. You know what I'm saying? Like these people will say you're depressed so you could just sit around and do nothing. When I would argue you're depressed so you should get up and do something. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're depressed, it's probably because you're in a situation that you don't like. When you get hungry or when you, when you don't eat, you get hungry. And that hunger makes you want to go eat. So when you're depressed, it's probably because you're in a situation where you're not enjoying your life because you haven't made the decisions that you need to make to progress in life.

And so, yeah, of course you're a depressed man. You ain't done nothing. You know what I mean? Like in the world is more competitive than ever before. So, yeah, like when it comes to Jordan Peterson, though, just to bring it out full circle, those are the same people that will say they care about men's health and men should cry. It's a same, man. Contradictional.

Yo, right here. So back to the red pill, man. So do you consider yourself, talk your shit? Do you consider yourself right now since they got Andrew Taye out of here, Sneakle out of here, Kevin Samis passed away? Are you now the forefront thought leader for the Arab people community? Ooh, that's crazy. Because listen, bro, let's think about it.

Who can't fuck with you? Can't anybody fuck with you at this point? Well, no. I'm gonna say this. I feel like you and Steph is cold are the two guys that I listen to but the most, right? But talk your shit, man. Are you the forefront thought leader right now in 2022 as we stand? Again, listen, it's like what?

October 1st, 4th,000. Right? Are you the forefront thought leader? I think that I, how do I say this? I, I, I'm going to hold. I put a lot of effort into my shoes.

And if I'm going to be competitive, like I've always been in my entire life, I have to believe that I am the best. And that's just it. But it's because I work at it. It's one thing to believe you're the best and you do nothing, and that's arrogance.

That's where you, it's easy to see through it. But when you believe that you're the best, but you actually work hard to become the best by challenging yourself every single day and trying to be disciplined, then you deserve to be able to say that you're in that position. And I think I'm definitely competitive with the top spot. Yeah. There are channels like numbers wise that are killing me. Shout out to Arco TV. He makes content too. His is a little bit more.

He's a little bit more geared to Gen Z. He doesn't really go into depth, really, but it's very quick-paced. And if you look them up, I mean, the dude's doing like 500,000 views a day. Damn. So, yeah, and he's posting every single day. So in terms of, like, numbers, he's probably going to pass me in the next couple months. And Fresh and Fit, too, they're huge. Well, here, again, like, I'll fuck with Fresh and Fit, right?

First to me, first off, don't go to their Reddit. Br, their Reddit, bro, I don't know how a fan base can hate one half of the fucking, like the show. That shit's crazy, bro. Bro, they're ready to get some fresh, but I feel like Fresh ask something. I feel like Myron is dope. But if I were to say Myron and PNP doing a debate, again, I love Myron, I love Fresh, I'm a Fresh and Fifth Chat, nigga. Yeah.

But I don't think anybody at that table can fuck with you when it comes to, like, talking that shit, get the facts right, oratory skills, something, being an intellectual, nah, bro. Yeah, see, but our show structure is different, too. Yeah. So when I do my videos, I sit down and I have a little bit more time to think about things. I can cut, you know, so if some things are, you know, if I'm not articulating well, I can cut that part out. While Myron, he has to sit down face to face.

And when them cameras come on, I'm sure you know, thinking about something and being able to actually articulate it to other people so that they can understand it are two totally different things. Of course. So, you know, I think what we do is a little bit different. I love what Myron's doing right now with Calm Myron. Who? I had a little... Calm, Mairen. Miron that is under control.

Calm, yeah. I think calm myron is a problem. When he was a little bit more trying to get the views and trying to get the, you know, the, he was going for the controversy. He was kicking the women out more often and, you know, being a little bit more loud. And it's easier to gloss over his message because he wasn't, you know, he wasn't, he didn't, he seemed like he was more sporadic, like more outrageous. You could, you could easily paint him to be an in-cell at that point. Yeah, like whatever. But when you're sitting there calm and you're articulating your ideas, no matter how emotional the other people.

parties are being, you go to another level. And he's been doing that very well lately. Yeah, right? And, you know, and fresh, fresh is just fresh. Yeah. I had some shit. I had some stuff with fresh. Yeah.

I might as well, God damn, talk about it. You were saying, man. When they were going through the whole Auburn Priest thing, they did some things that I disagree with. And I don't care who you are. If I don't like the music, I'm not dancing. Oh, I remember that. I remember that.

And, like, you made a video, like, talking about it. right? But I think you called Myron first, right? Yeah, I did a live stream on the allegations that were coming up at the time because, of course, there were a bunch of, I don't remember the specific allegations. I remember one was he might have got somebody pregnant. The other one is... She was capping, lying her ass off. Yeah. And so, but I did speak to Myron before, and he gave me one of the examples. And in that example, when I started the live stream, I talked about that example, and I said, I guarantee you right now from what I know, because he didn't want me to share the information that he gave. Yeah, of course. And he only gave me something that justified him from one of the time. of the allegations. So I was like, I'm going to cover the topic. And if I don't have all of the

information, it's going to look bad for you. Yeah, because now I have to be objective. I have to try to play both. I have to go, okay, maybe they could be telling the truth on this in. Maybe not. But one of my biggest criticisms of them was that they put themselves in a vulnerable situation by engaging with the same women they know will take advantage of them if given the opportunity. Yeah, of course. So that plus some of the stuff that was going on what I've been preached, calling out Preach's wife. I'm not with that. You know, I'm married too. I would never if I have an argument with you, I'm not talking about your mother or your, your wife or kids is between me and you. But I think that they all, I think they had an understanding

after a while in that one. But another thing that they did that, uh, where I kind of was like, okay, yeah, that's copyright strikes. Because I'm all for freedom of speech. And I know myron is too. So when he made the argument that people were criticizing him, yet he admitted openly before that, that his primary goal was to create controversy to spread the message. He wanted to grow based on controversy And that's cool because that is a way to do it But you're gonna get people to react to your videos You're gonna get people to say that's hilarious

That's funny, that's bullshit Because you seek controversy So if you seek controversy Why are you trying to copyright strike people For reacting to that controversy? You know what I mean? So that was kind of my criticism I did not like that too, yeah

Yeah and so like I think when it came down to it And they had all the information And they were going on the live stream I was in the live stream asking questions whatever They started getting more men to me, you know, they fans are riled up. So I think Fresh was like, stay over there, stay over there, something like that. Yeah, yeah, nah, man.

But, like, here's the thing. Is that good now? Or, like, y'all still have some type of, like, friction? Well, see, the thing is, I never had friction with Myron because Myron was the one I spoke to. And I don't care about anything. I will call, if, I, even my friends, I will call you out if I think you're bullshitting.

Yeah. So in this time, this was a time where the police were supposedly being called in, people were coming in with guns. And I'm like, bro, is this all a part of the sham? Like is this part of the controversy? Like I called him and he was like the police here I got to call you back I was like bro are you telling the truth like you can ask him about this

Are you telling the truth or is this a bunch of bullshit? I was like okay bro I'm gonna get off the phone but I don't know you know Because I just wasn't sure if they were created more controversy So like I've always had my criticisms of there And Fresh when he said the stay over there thing I think that's because me and Fresh weren't in communication And plus I did say this in the live stream and I will stand on this Fresh had a story where he was talking about going with something

NBA player and having three-sips and having a thousand plus body count. If you got game, it's possible. It's possible. But that's some shit. You know what I'm saying? I was like, look, bro, that's cap. Off the real. I don't believe you. I'm not

going to believe that. Yeah. No, I did hear that story and again, I'll be real. Like that story did, you know, like having sex with a sim girl as an NBA player that you guys. Yeah, three-sums. I'm like, yeah, I stand on that to this day. I still think it's cap. So you can get upset that believe that or you could try to prove me

that you actually did or whatever it may be but again I still think it's not true How do we fix that though man Like how do we bring P&P and fresh Listen because I would love to see you like Just like just like just just go on their show man You feel me? Yeah I probably cook up

I cook up on a I enjoy like I watch their clips I'm on Facebook sometimes Even though it's a graveyard If you're still on Facebook you're screaming into the void All it is is 34 year old women talk Or 40 year old women talk about knee operations and, you know. But I'll get on there.

Yeah, I go on there every now and then, and I see their videos pop up, and I think their clips are really interesting. I don't have the time to watch a full live stream. But, yeah, I like their content. I have no problem, and I've said this from the beginning. They've always put good, they've always had really good production value. They've always been very determined.

Myra's always been, yes, and from all the stories I've heard of Myron in person. He always treats people hospitably. Or if that's a, he speaks people with hospitality. He's African, so they always do that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, yeah. So most of my criticism, just came from the controversy

that you were trying to build and yet you were upset and trying to copy right strike people for that controversy even though you said for reacting to that controversy even though you said that you were for free speech and so that was a little bit of a contradiction but I don't have no problem with friends or friends I still think they're doing their thing I think they're

coming up to a million subscribers yeah right here so so with Myron and he's special because like when you talk to everybody they say he's the exact same on camera as he is off camera so like that's good now the same second thing is, you know, now some people might say

listen, again, I don't think this because I think that Fresh has something to add, right? But people say, listen, my right, you should probably just, you know, just cut Fresh off and go do your own thing. So what's your like, again, and that's their Reddit saying that, right?

So what do you like, what's your like reaction to, I guess, that, right? Like, you know, in their Reddit or other people saying, listen, you should probably just cut fresh off he don't add too much you feel like you know like all the ideologies and you know and the hard on thought mess come from you

it's probably criticism from people that don't understand what he does on the back end I don't even yeah I was about to say I don't even know understand what he does in the back end but if he networks that's a value that can only be that certain people have that other people don't and when it comes to technical people kind of like more like me and myron we're so into the numbers and so into the business aspect of things it's hard to go out and be personal

So if you have another side that's able to go out and be personable and recruit people to come on the show and make sure that when you go out to the club, you're in the best VIP section because he's already been there a million times and he knows the owner and blah, blah, blah, that all helps to building the brand. And it helps to moderate some of the bad criticism that comes towards them because they treat people well in person. So I think that that's just criticism made by people who only see the on-camera stuff. I think that Fresh is getting much better at articulating himself. And when he doesn't feel like he- And he starts too, too, too, yeah. Yeah, and if he doesn't feel like he wants to, if he doesn't feel like he can articulate well on the subject,

he'll just stay out of it. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't know. Yeah. But yeah, he'll stay out of it. What I did say, Ed, Fresh, you were SIPPa gang. Oh, Miranda! Miranda! So, you know, like, when it comes to stuff like that, bro.

That was bad, though. That's what I'm saying. So when it comes to stuff like that, and when academics came on, he essentially brought up all of the things that I said. So, like, all of the things. Miranda was, listen. Yeah, that was a little wild,

let me tell you, how devious Miranda. Listen, and Miranda made me like pause and look at my own girl like, yo, like you're telling me all the right shit about this money. Bro, Miranda came on and said, bro, I still drive a Toyota Corolla. I'm the least like materialistic girl ever. I don't even look at wealth.

And then go to her TikTok. It's just giving tutorials on how to finesse men out of money. Yeah, yo, bro, these women are. These women are devious, bro. It's crazy. But, you know, fresh, but the thing is, even with men like fresh that already know the tricks and the traps, men are just hardwired to be ignorant when it comes to women. We don't want to have to realize the nature of women because we have to protect them and we need them for procreation. We need the woman.

She was an average white girl. That's crazy. But it's like when you get one and they get you in that web, bro, because femininity is a web. And that's a huge power that women have is femininity. Making a man feel like a man is a crazy power. You can convince a man to do damn there anything. for you. Men are getting up to go work, getting up

at 5 a.m. to go to work, not because they want to oppress women. That's what feminism say. Men are oppressing women. Guys are getting up at 5 a.m. to make sure that their women can stay home and take care of their kids. That's insane. That's because the femininity has hypnotized them enough to just go out and sacrifice their mental and physical health

to provide for them. You know, so femininity is a huge thing, and that's probably what he got caught in. You go to strip clubs, and the reason why dudes are addicted to strip clubs is because of the femininity. You get a woman, she'd give you to eyes, you know, she, they behave very... Submissive. Countile for your paper.

Yeah. You feel me? Yo, bro, you know, listen, man. I've been talking your ears off for almost three hours, bro. It's going on two minutes, no, two hours and like 20 minutes, right? Yeah. But, bro, listen, here, right? So, like, let the folks know.

One, what do you have calming up, right? Like, what's next in PMP's conquest for world domination? I'm going to start a tech firm. No, right now I'm just making I'm going to start going back to making videos every single day Because on the other side Where I've been doing setting money aside To make sure that

Yeah, you good Yeah, because You're next probably Yeah, yeah I'll be real fresh and fit I don't see them having a channel And in six months, right? Because listen, they're going just down the line, right?

Yeah Especially after that live stream With like Andrew Taito where They have them on there and he's banned and I think that that's illegal but not illegal but against terms and so. You listen though, I got a copy a guideline strike, right?

Yeah. For talking about Joe Budden and Alex Jones going like back and forth, right? I'll play the 30 second clip of Alex Jones speaking. I got a strike for like having like a band creator

or some bush like that, right? Yeah, bro. They'll excommunity. Bro, they get you the fuck out of there. That's what they do. Yeah, look. It's a power play. I think I can find this real quick, man.

You feel me? Where, bro, it was madness, right? Right. But, like, it's past, like, them might have him on, though, right? It's, you know, it's definitely like, yo, they're just next in line. So, like, you've been saving money? Yeah. Yeah, I still, yeah, bro, no matter how much money I make, I still drive a Volkswagen, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta.

Yeah, I'm very, uh, I'm very, uh, I'm, I'm very frugal, I guess, is what you would say. I make sure that I take care of my money so it could take care of me one day. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't play that. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I've always been very disciplined when it comes to money because, I mean, if you don't have. Look at this shit, man. Look at that bullshit, bro. Alex Jones going at Joe Bud, and they removed that shit because Alex Jones was a band person. Right? So, like, when you, you film him, brux, like, look at that shit. This is crazy.

I'm going to tell you, see it. It's the truth. But people don't understand it because they're not content creators. Yeah. Like, so they don't understand how, how tedious or just how, how much power that is for another, for like a company. They don't understand it because they're not a part of it yet, but they will be. But as far as like my future and whatnot.

Yeah, what's next, man. Putting money aside. A TV show? No, not a TV show, but I don't think that I'm even, I'm going to make videos. I'm going to put money aside. I'm going to continue to talk about controversial topics until I can't anymore. And when that happens, I'm going to get out of it, take care of my family and any way I see fit. and enjoy my life.

Or listen, listen, or like such your own podcast, you feel what I'm, you feel like me, transition. Bro, listen, bro, you can, listen, bro, I'm telling you right down, bro. Like, you can definitely, like, go down, well, like, you already had the podcast, right, but like an actual podcast and shit. Yo, TV show, man, listen, bro, listen, we can link you up with, like, Andrew Shoshal, man, and God, you feel me? And, you know, you feel me?

You know what strange, though, is like, and I always think about this because those guys are so good at what they do. Yeah. Like, they're really good at what they do. it's like I'm still trying to figure out what make what is entertaining you know what I mean and just like I did with track like how much is it is nature versus nurture because I know people that are just funny yeah they can just say things and do whatever they do and they're just funny they're entertaining people yeah so it's like I'm trying to still figure out what makes a person

entertaining and I'm still trying to learn how to articulate myself better better yeah bro like even in the even in this interview after I finished a phrase or a sentence or a segment of whatever I'm saying I'll say so or like just little things like that that y'all may have control over because y'all are used to having these open discussions bro bro i fucking stutter yeah and say right right right right probably every yeah yeah yeah yeah it is what it is yeah but then you get to like andrew sholts jo rogan charlemagne the god i mean just some of these legendary podcasts it's tim doing it's time too right right it's time too because they've been doing it for like 20 years then yeah i think that's

what it is so i just want to get more experience in it and hopefully i can try not to be banned on YouTube so that when the time comes where I'm able to articulate myself better, I can take that step into more like mainstream, like, you know, those kind of podcasts. Because once you get in that cycle, Joe Budding. Yeah, you're out of here. Yeah, you pretty much good. But I think no jump is the first step today, if I'm just completely honest. I still got some work to do, though.

Wait, hold up. Like, yo, I was actually afraid, but to reach out, right, again, right? Because we probably thought, yo, like, he's too big to come and do, like, our shit, you feel? me, right? So, like, here, bro, so, like, why do you think you're still, like, in, like, in, like, the small content creator race?

Because you're, bro, like, you're a huge, bro, everybody knows about you, bro. Yeah. I don't know. Like, you're a huge, bro, like, trust me, bro, like, people who I talk to, like, Traveller Ross is probably here and shit, like, he's probably, right?

Right? Right, you know, and, like, he probably has, like, 900,000 subs, right? Yeah. Doing, like, an interview right now with Adam. Bro, he knows about you, feel right? Like, you're huge, bro. That's interesting.

I guess I never really thought about it or gotten into... It's like when you lose weight or gain weight, you don't really notice until somebody tell you. So I've noticed that people have recognized me more in person than ever before. But I'm more gauge my skill based on where I think I'm at in comparison to the best. That's what I do. I don't care about, like, people that ain't good. Yeah.

Because they ain't good. Like, that's nothing to look up to. That's nothing to care about. So, like, when I think of articulating myself, I don't compare myself to other people. on my level or maybe even below, I think of like, how am I in compared to, in comparison to Joe Rogan or

Andrew Shultz or Tim Dillon or, you know, just some of the major podcasters, you know. Oh, question for you, though. Do you watch, like, no jumper? Yeah, I watch it sometimes. I'm more of a clips guy, though, because, again, I don't really be having the time to watch the whole thing.

Yeah, so, like, what was your, your, like, first reaction right before we get about it here? Your, like, first reaction to, like, seeing poetic flaco? I wasn't very familiar with you until really recently. But obviously, the first one

was the spit one. Yeah. Which is crazy, bro. That's wild. No, y'all came in on it, though. Yeah. You felt? You were, y'all was on buffers, though.

Y'all was on buffers, but I don't want to reopen no ones or nothing. But that was really, but, you know, but those are the moments, though. Like, people are addicted to negativity, and when you're in the media space, you start to realize a little bit more. And if you keep promoting that,

like, you get a situation where, like, we're kind of in now with social media, where almost everything is overwhelmingly negative. So you only see the worst parts of humanity because that's what people see. I took a heart left from the niggins shit after that. Listen, bro, I took a heart. Listen, I said anything Negro, I'm good.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good with the dicking shit, right? Now, yo, listen, right, but like, I knew, though, that, like, I had a change or, like, stop associating myself with those, I guess, like high-pressure situation. Because, listen, like, Tori Hart told me, yo, listen, like, my PR team,

my manager team, they all told me, yo, don't do an interview with a poetic flacco, right? And she said, nah, fuck that, you feel what I'm going to do it. So I thought that it was just her people. And then Trapler Ross told me, y'all, like, my team told me, yo, don't do an interview with a poetic flackle unless he asks all the hard questions, all, you feel I mean, like. Do you search for controversy? You do you be kind of picking for controversy, though, do you think?

Yeah, right. Let's just be honest, I'm not saying you're bad for it. I'm saying you're damn near good at your job for it. Because those controversial clips are the ones that go viral and that people actually watch. But would you say that's something that you search for with questions? Hey, so for me is like, I ask questions, right, that people would say, let's not ask, right? Because me is kind of like, for example, like a rapper recently, right?

Yo, like, yeah, right, yo, right? It's all online of, like, you know, him and some dude going like back and forth and a dude who shot him just died, right? So like, more people would say, you know what? I'm not going to talk about. I'm going to ask, yo, listen, did you kill that, nigga? You feel me? Right?

Right. So, like, I'm going to ask the questions that nobody else want to ask, right? Yeah, that's like Vlad, though. Vlad be doing that. You didn't feel? Yo, listen to, man. Vlad, please, yo. I love you, Vlad.

Vlad, bro. Why do you hate me, nigga? I love you, man. Oh, for real? Bro, Vlad fucking despise me, man. Listen, look. Bro, what happened? What's going on?

Like, why is everybody? Man, I don't know why he hates me, but I just know that, like, when he was coming here and he requested, like, He don't even want to see me. Damn. That's crazy, right? But hey, man, you know, Vlad, I love you, bro.

Please, please, please, please, please, Vlad, let's fix the issue. And that's the thing, too. When you kind of, when you go for controversy, that's part of it. You're going to get some people that absolutely love you because you're asking the difficult questions, but then you're going to get people that hate you

because they think that you're setting them up. I love Vlad, man. But, yo, listen, man, poor man. Yo, please. Please, please. I'm not sure what are you like available next, right? But like, I want to see me, you and sharp.

Just like just have conversation, you feel me, man? Bro, I love to see that. Or, yo, or me, you and Kazumi, feel me? Like, bro, I just want to have you back to you, right? We can, you know, form that conversation, right? But trust me, bro, like. We got to get somebody that's a little bit polarized because even that's the controversy with Fresh and Fit.

They'll go, why do they have this particular type of woman on? Number one, they are diversified, they have college students, they have only fans, girls, they have all of that. But you also have to find people that can articulate their points enough. It's Kazumi. Yeah, that's, okay. So she's that person, then I'm willing to sit and have a discussion.

Because I'm going to come with it. Bro, she better. So she better be, like, mean or nothing, but I'm going to ask difficult questions. Bro, listen, she's a hard feminist. She does, listen, right, she does porn, but, like, she has a regular boyfriend who's in finance. Bro, listen, trust me, me, you, Kazumi and Sharbo will have. a perfect conversation. You feel me? But listen, man, no jumper coolest podcast in the world, man. Poor man podcast came. I talked his ears off for two hours and 40 minutes. You know, listen,

because he said, what will we talk about for three hours? I guess you were wrong, right? Three hours later. I know, right? No jumper coolest podcast in the world, man. We're out of here, folks. Peace.