No Jumper - Popperazzi Po on Tay Savage Plotting on Him, Alpo (His Dad) & King Yella Telling & More

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Poperazzi talks about his upbringing, working behind the scenes, working on new music, his relationships with Billionaire Black, J Mane, Cardi B, Tay Savage, and more. ----- Get the latest news & vid...eos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 My age and my industry age are the same. Really? Yeah, I mean, it never occurred to me. I mean, because you're super duper famous, so it's like they don't care. When you get to a certain point, it's like being a rapper, right, and coming out fresh out and saying, yeah, I got a girlfriend. But I never submitted my age to famous birthdays or anything. They just know how old I am. I feel like they could look it up, right?
Starting point is 00:00:24 Like, how am I going to hide it? They asked me on Twitter. Oh, yeah? Flacco just got the DM from him when he was geeking. He's like, I must be famous, how famous birthdays hit me up because they will tap in with you. But I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Like I can't imagine like when I was young, I had no idea that being young was valuable
Starting point is 00:00:45 because I remember like if you're 16, but you say you're 13 and you're like a rapper, you can see how that would be valuable because it's like, oh my God, he's a super talented, smart, well-read, educated 13-year-old when really you're just like kind of a normal 16-year-old. So I can see why people get it. But I can see why people fake it, but definitely never would have occurred to me.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And plus, all right, if I was 37 to the public, I mean, fucking, who cares? I'm just going to be like an older-looking 37. I feel like the new age right now, just age. I feel like once you got gray hair, you can say whatever age. But once you don't, it's like you can still kind of play with it. The gray hair will start kicking in early. And I will say... It depends.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Jayman already got a poor spot. That's true. As white men, we age poorly because you can see it's like a white tea. If I spill some coffee on the shit, you're going to see it right away. If I have a black shirt, I spill a little coffee on it. It's hard to see. So my skin is going to look worse than yours, but my gray hair blends into my face, whereas your gray hair will stand out more because it's on a black face.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I think I got like another 20 years before I get gray hair because my father was like 55 and he still didn't have gray hair. It's like two different curses. You could lose your hair or you could go gray. Or you could do both. He didn't do none. But you want to, okay. I mean, he ain't have waves, but. Have you ever seen someone's hair turn gray suddenly?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yes. Because I'm watching this World War II documentary. My men's had gray. What, what happened? They were just stressed out. Oh, so just like kind of everything in general? And their hair would just go gray. Yeah, like they'll get like one line.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Then they get two, three. Because in this World War II documentary, they're saying like these dudes who are going to war and you're actually like watching fucking bullets and missiles, whizels, whizabeth. by your head and shit that their hair would go gray like overnight. Wow. But think about that. That is like the most stressful thing. Like being in a shootout by the corner store is nothing compared to that shit.
Starting point is 00:02:42 True. You know? So it's like in that moment of feeling like there's a 99% chance that you're going to die. I was just on a plane. That's got to do something to you. He seemed cool. A Navy guy? Yeah, he's trying to draft me.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Cause. Gaster. He's like, yo, you should let me be your recruiter. I'm like, I'm going my way to no jumper, bro. I'm not talking about no fucking. I'm sorry. I'm not your guy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Getting recruited is crazy. Yeah, he was trying to recruit me. A lot of people would be trying to recruit me. Really? Yeah. Other kind of gangs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Other gangs, other lifestyles? Really? They wanted me to have an open mind. Damn. Even Crip Max's ex-girlfriend, Lee Kake, she wanted to do Onlyfans with me. Shut the fuck out. I swear not.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm calling me now. Why? Yes. bro I'm a big deal for some reason I don't know why That's ill that she saw you as a cloud opportunity I mean that would be probably I don't think it was a cloud opportunity
Starting point is 00:03:37 She got a fight Like she will never go viral in her life Unless she's attached to a dude So it's like She's kind of probably experienced Like the top of that mountain With Crip Mac She's looking at you like
Starting point is 00:03:48 Man man He could get me lit too You're a sexier version Well I like Crip Mac Is way more funnier than me Ever since I realized my wife Wanted to fuck Crip Mac I look at them a little different
Starting point is 00:03:58 I don't think she's really wanted to fuck him. I think it was like something funny to do. Yeah. Like I think she was going to make fun of him while fucking him. I don't think she would enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:04:08 She's not a fun maker type. Like as much as people look at her as this crazed whore. No, she is such a nice person. I have really like very rarely throughout my time with her heard her say anything mean about anyone.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's very rare. She looks like she has an edge to her though. Like she looks like the really nice girl, but like. Very little edge. When nobody's looking, Not a lot of edge. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I get to hear her inner most thoughts. There's not a lot of edge. Damn. She's very much. She's just like a Cinderella, like a really nice girl. I mean, I'm not trying to make her out to be a saint or anything, but she's just not really like. So it's your fault she's doing what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh, I'm the mean one. I do all the cruelty. That makes sense. That makes sense. I'm not going on. That makes sense. And now we have the kid. So it's like she's kind of constantly having to tell me like,
Starting point is 00:04:56 because my kid was throwing up a gang sign the other day. and I was like, oh, she's dropping the rakes, her. And my, get it some roadblock too? No, it wasn't that. It wasn't dropping the ranks, but it was something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And I was, I was like, oh my God. And she's like, don't tell her about gangs. Don't tell her about it. I'm like, oh, my bad. I mean, she's going to have to know.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Probably not. Probably if you go to private schools in Beverly Hills, you probably don't, like, I mean. But they're still going to have like sororities. They're going to have shit
Starting point is 00:05:24 that's like gangs, though. Like, it's going to be like. I hope the kind of cause that she goes to would not be that kind of sorority vibe. Like Jojo, whoever that is, like some Disney chick, Jojo. Jojo Siwa. Yeah, one of them is that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And the other one is like, I can't really tell. She's like a bookworm. Then you just haven't cared recently too late? Hmm. Yeah. A blue face baby? You're trying to deny it? Nah, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:05:57 How is your daughter a Jojo Siwa? Because Jojo see why it's she's like a hardcore lesbian now is that what you're saying Nah, but she just likes that shit like she likes to go to like all her fucking shows and Really? Yeah, like she's a good influence though. Yeah, she she she likes like to go to like a concerts and shit How old she 10? That's a good role model for a 10 year old you think so Joe Joe's the chick pretty awesome Yeah, but she she's a lesbian But she's an ethical lesbian, from what I could tell. She's not like a mean lesbian.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Or she's not like a lesbian indoctrinator. I don't think. I mean, she could be one of the sexy red concerts and shit. Yeah, it could be a lot worse. I don't think sexy red is worse. You would rather your 10-year-old daughter be going to see sexy red talking about her booty hole brown. I love sexy rat. Me too, but I don't know about what my 10-year-old super hyped on.
Starting point is 00:06:55 She's very good at exaggerating her lyrics. Sexy Red. Yeah. Like I think like everything she's saying is really true, but it's like, when it comes down to punchlines and shit like that, you get to exaggerate it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't think she's a as much as she, her image portrays her to be, but I know that she has that mind. Like she was definitely out there getting money. Sexy Red is the kind of hoe that I can get behind.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I love her. Because she's a self-empowered hoe. I love him. in her songs love her like we love sexy rap it would it would be different if a girl was rapping about getting trained behind the dumpster she even reposted me one time i was like god made me smile when he made sexy rat she reposted it yeah girls like me for some reason i think it's the cut on my face yeah i know they see that and they just think that you must be gangstress i used to be i used to pray for a buck 50 yo don't go there because i could show you
Starting point is 00:07:58 an interview where I told that story. Like, I was a kid, and I used to be, like, fascinated with, like, onyx and, like, all this stupid gang-banging New York shit with the timberlands and the fucking one leg up. The cut on your face. Onics. Yeah. Black skinheads.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Like, I was like... Those were the original black skinheads, and they were the hardest-looking dudes on earth to me. Exactly. You were influenced by that. And I wanted to be, like, I wanted a buck 50. I wanted a chip tooth. Like, I wanted tattoos on my face. Because there was that Riker's documentary that, like, every kid in New York watched during a certain era of New York history, right?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Because all the BMX dudes I knew from Brooklyn were super obsessed with that shit. Yeah, it was when me, it was like my mother, like her boyfriends. My mom's blood. So it's like I got to see that shit firsthand in my house. I'm like five years old. You know what I'm saying? Like just now getting in the school like when Tupac died or the gang shit started hair heavy. South side this and east side this and Latin King.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like I got to see that shit like in my house. So I was like, yeah. Like the dopest nigger that came through the door with the waves and the Greg Koogee suits. That was the nigga I wanted to be like. You know what I'm saying? So I seen that shit like. So what's your actual gang affiliation? Fill us in.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm, all right. I'm like whack, right? I'm from the hood, but I'm not an active gang member. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Like gang banger. You left it behind, yeah. Yeah, I ain't kind of like leave it behind.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I kind of just grew up. Yeah. Because we called the young gunners, right? And once you hit 30 is like, are we still young gunners? But, okay, it's only shameful if you move on, but they don't with you. Like, if you're still cool, they definitely don't. nobody's with me okay nobody with me because i tell too many jokes on the internet and for some reason these tough-ass niggas with life they don't like that shit oh you're you're making us look
Starting point is 00:10:08 bad how you the one that got life not me how you making who's making who look bad what are you doing that makes them angry with you like what are you joking about i see you in here dissing your ops and whatnot everybody everybody whoever like certain people put it like this right i'm gonna speak from the youngest generation of my crew right now right they're all coming up in the bronx draw wave right and they like artists that i have beef with okay so like say for example right i was going out of it with little wreaths right old friend of mine's but you know cousin jane's cousin yeah right old friend of mine though like knew him before i knew jane but whatever we're going back and four if he like when the f you turned into a op i'm like i told them when and he's like wow okay
Starting point is 00:10:59 you and i'm like i f you and he's like yeah nigger niggas don't respect you in your hood right you got robbed and i'm like mad sh** happen to you shitting on yourself fucking head was smushed in like what the fs the difference right and he's like the difference is and he sends me a picture of him laying on his block on his on a call he's like i could do this and you can't. So I just went back to New York and did the same shit. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So this is recent. You and Reese, you just have this. It was around, it was like right before Matt Se. Savage. Like, right before I caught here the last time.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You met Sey Savage through J.Maine? He filmed the skit. What skit? Oh. Oh, what the, them pretending to work in the factory and all that kind of shit?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. Yeah. It's a legendary film. So did you feel like there was backdoor vows? You know, J. Man. He said,
Starting point is 00:11:53 I feel like I was making bad to do it. Yeah, at one point in time, it got weird, but like, I don't really want to say, like, I don't know if it was towards me or not. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was kind of hard to distinguish where the, how you say it, like, you know how like they,
Starting point is 00:12:14 you got to shorten this cable. We're trying to figure out where's the short because everything was going smooth. And then it's like, I don't know. Like he just started getting real distant. Who? James is he Savage? He stopped with you.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Not really, he wasn't never really fucking with me. He came there for J-Main, but. But is he not fucking with J-main now? No, this is just distant from us. Like he was getting on the phone and walking off. Right? So we was just kind of watching him. You thought he's thinking.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh, right? This is inside. I never thought of that move. Yeah. Get on FaceTime and then just walk away from the phone. Yeah, that doesn't pick up. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. It's either I pick up and I'm talking to or I don't pick up.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So that was my thing. Like, but I get it. Niggas got other shit going on. So everybody don't need to be in your business. But then we went outside and he walked to the dumpster. See, that's a real story. I don't know if y'all know that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But that's a real story. He walked to the dumpster and did what? Bro, he went to the fucking dumps? No, he ain't do nothing. Bro, the nigger is crazy. He walked to the dumpster instead of standing there with you and J. I'll call the nigga right now, bro. He would rather kick it with the dumpster.
Starting point is 00:13:18 He came, we came outside, we smoking. The nigger went like this. went to his car first. Doing something in his car. Then he come out his car, he'd come, he leaned up against, when we at, he like, hey, so, um, what's, what's going on? Um, so that was you, I was on the live with,
Starting point is 00:13:42 we were receiving and then, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was me. He's like, oh, okay, cool. And you outpost something, right? I'm like, yeah, he like, okay. He asked me like one or two, Two more questions. Then he's like digging in his pants.
Starting point is 00:14:00 They can't see you right there, but- Now he's like digging in his pants. Like- Taking like a long dick out or what? Basically, right? I don't know what he was doing, right? But he's digging in his pants. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:12 So then he pull his pants up. But like I'm like fake watching. Because you're thinking he's gonna pull up the blick. Yes, because you see how he pulled it out his pants in the, in the video? Because this is the bully. No, this is John fake. Yes. The bullies is old name.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Can you get back from the mic? So now, right? We f- he digs in his pants. I don't want to do it because I got on white pants, but he's digging in his pants, like he's fixing, like, save you got like a front wedgey. Right. And you're fixing your underwear. He did some shit like dug deep in his pants and he walked back up to us. But like I was watching the floor.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I ain't seen no piss. So now I'm like tapping J-Mane. I'm like, you done here? done here maybe masturbated sorry now you know one of the palms with John Wick I'm telling you you're right now I'm I'm I'm nervous because he unfollowed me then he followed me back then he gave me like yo we into it I'm like hell no nigger like I'm your biggest fan like right do you watch the Trableau Ross thing about him yes bro I was trapped Lord
Starting point is 00:15:19 Ross before he even got out of jail I've been new these okay in the Chicago real world. You have many people who have done many awful things to many people. In that environment, Tay Savage earned the nickname, the bully, and earned the reputation
Starting point is 00:15:38 that he has. Now, unlike King Vaughn, where it has been, like, heavily documented what he has allegedly got into, with Tay Savage, it's a little bit more of a blur. But what we do know about him getting into is some crazy-ass shit.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And it is kind of crazy when you think about the fact that we're just sitting here having a conversation with him He seems chill as it seems like the nicest guy you ever mad in your life But he's capable and oh it's hardcore Lord knows what that nigger is hard core like Yeah sir niggas like I did a lot of time in jail so I know what they look like But I know what they look like like like like I'm a oudahm whatever you want to call me But I know the difference in the levels of a nigger that's a sight psychopath or like a like what you call that like a nigger like a sociopath like a nigga that's like he really crazy right like me I really just like to get money
Starting point is 00:16:35 bitches and take care of my family so real that he don't got to play crazy at all never he don't got to let on at all never and we only even know like we would never know if he was just a rapper and nobody knew about all the shit back in the day we would have no clue we just think like oh he seems like imagine being behind the camera when he pulls the gun on his pants and seize it with your own eyes. You know what it looks like. I lived in Chicago. I know what it looks like when the nigger pull up and pop out.
Starting point is 00:17:03 That shit looks so regular to him. Yeah. Like he... So why he thought he was his out? Why he hit you on that? No, because, like, I don't know. Something was wrong with his Instagram. He said he couldn't see my page, so he unfollowed me, right?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. So literally in that day, I seen him post some shit that I thought was dope, like some real shit and I reposted it and I tagged them like, yo, this was real shit. But then I noticed he wasn't following me, so I took it down, right? I ain't gonna be a dick rider, like
Starting point is 00:17:34 you know what I'm saying, type shit? Like, ain't nothing like that, but if a nigga ain't following me, like, I'm not promoting anything to do with you. The only shit that we know about Tate Savage is shit that other people said about him. Once people speak on him, he'll sometimes speak on it as well,
Starting point is 00:17:51 but he's never been out here. telling us stories he'll only react to stories to other people like jane tell exactly and the crazy part is right let me tell you is a secret right and even though i don't with billy right now i'm gonna still say his name because i love him but he a bitch right stupid nigger in the wheelchair right you're still in a wheelchair i don't know you know he's switching it up every week a shout to billy's pushing the piece oh i see it that all i hope so i hope that that shit is like sat down jay head i But Jay Hood ain't You see how they was like
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yo, Tate Savage and J-Main ain't really ops Nigger, they really got into some shit So, but Jay-Hood It sounded like Tate Avers is down to shoot at J-Main Over almost nothing. No, he was down To shoot at J-Main because J-Maine Was with some niggas and Jay-Maine was on that with Reese.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay. He's me. He's the lookout. He's on that car. He's, that's what he's around for at that time. I'm saying. Now he's grown to be a boss and a leader. He probably was all of that back then too.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But in that situation where Little Reese is the rapper, Tate Savage is not going to let anything happen to him. The niggas that J. Main was with and J. Maine was moving like they wanted to approach Reese. That's why that happened to him. Same shit if you try to approach him now, which you think going to happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Because you can say what he wanted about J.M. But he ain't lacking. Never. He's moving around like somebody going to kill him. He because you know what I ain't gonna say too much but he know what he was doing. Yeah You know what I'm saying like I was there we live together and I'm the dumb dumb that sent a picture of the whoops to Chief Sosa and said hey will you try these whoops But I don't think he I don't think so so so might be out of the whole drill thing to the point where he doesn't even remember that J. Main made a bunch of songs dissing his homies I don't know because it's like that is the weird thing about Chief Keefe is that Chief Keefe basically was done this an option
Starting point is 00:19:53 and shit. Like, he probably does still sneak little weird shit in there, but like, he don't seem like he gives a fuck about all that at all. Keith is like me at this point where he got more beef with his friends than his ops. How many f***ing raps you're going to put on this thing? Nah, I had to do surgery. You got a blunt with two papers? Yeah. Jesus. I had to do
Starting point is 00:20:08 surgery. You must just love. So what's the secret shoes just been telling us? You said, yeah, you said, yeah, sorry, sorry. Oh, nah, when I first, when I first, like, when we first quote with John Wick, right? Yeah. I was still living in AZ at that time
Starting point is 00:20:24 And me and Billy We used to go to the studio and shit together Whatever, long story short He had hit me one day He like, yo Pull up to the studio I'll, uh, is only going to be like A couple niggas there type shit
Starting point is 00:20:37 So, because I really I never like being around his friends For me. So here hit me like yo Billionaire for me. Yeah, for me? So here hit me like, yo It's just me and bro there
Starting point is 00:20:48 pull up. Sometimes I go, sometimes I won't right this particular day he like yo pull up I for me I'm meeting up with my man type shit like I don't really know how he coming but I explained to you more in person so I'm like what what does that mean right so I definitely didn't go I'm like nah I'm cool on that right so now I call a nigger one day I forgot why oh yeah I was on live with really Um, the nigger.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Who got a, who got shot by Rocky? Did he get shot by Rocky? Yeah, they're going to trial about it right now. You're talking about Raleigh? No, no, no, no, no, not him. You're talking about the community. No, I'm talking about Raleigh, yeah. Really, uh, right?
Starting point is 00:21:36 A different Rale. Big Raleigh, yeah, from the Bronx, right? So I'm on live with Raleigh and Blazendahl's old manager. That, that weird dude, what's his name? What's his name? That did the interview with academics? Big Pluto That's our old manager
Starting point is 00:21:53 He was here when she was here before But that's our old manager now That's the demon right He's a chain snatcher Yeah I don't Allegedly No yeah he didn't snatch the chain I know the nigga that snatched the chain
Starting point is 00:22:02 He was on the live too Oh okay His name is like baby loose crew Or some shit like that Wow amazing name Yeah he's from I think no love city These niggas is all crazy Okay right
Starting point is 00:22:12 Bugged out Chicago niggas Whatever But um I was on live for all of them And then somehow we got Tay Savage to join This was like my first encounter With him and he joined and then he called Reese on FaceTime
Starting point is 00:22:26 Because the dude Who's managing Blazendor was basically calling our names like You I f*** with this nigga this nigga this nigga We in the same crew kind of But you don't know me So Tay made the call You know this nigga like Reese you know this nigga like no yeah I know who the nigga is
Starting point is 00:22:43 Whatever cool So after that I called Billionaire I was like yo why everybody's so scared of this nigger because I seen some niggas that was talking real tough get real like funny when that nigga got on the live
Starting point is 00:22:59 like yo tell you tell but yo guess what but you know like trying to kiss his ass like he just man humble and shit like hey what's up like you feel me like whatever like so I'm like yo Billy what's up with this nigga like he's like yo bro that nigger's the real deal
Starting point is 00:23:18 I'm like, what? He's like, yo, bro, listen. That nigger, that's the real deal. Like, that's not one of them niggers. Like, niggers don't play with him. He's from my block, my real block, Welchworld. Yeah, like, that's bro in him. Like, that's the nigger I was telling you to pull up to the studio that day.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And I'm like, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. copy now when I met him what made me like back to what we were saying made me fill the back door vows because I'm the same way I don't come around opposing the threat I never been that kind of person like I was never the nigger me mugging in the background like even when you see me in the back like old cardi B videos I'm smiling and shit like I ain't never been like the studio gangster type nigger so it's like I know I know
Starting point is 00:24:16 what kind of nigga that is. I can identify with that. Like, this nigga's playing mad, cool, but this nigga is like any second this nigga, you heard? So I told that nigga, Jay, man, let's get the fuck out of here. Man, what are you waiting for? He's like, what y'all doing that to this?
Starting point is 00:24:32 We ain't doing nothing. You heard? We're not doing nothing. So you're not trying to be buddy-witty-what-he-would-to-taste F? I mean, now I don't mind. Okay. But y'all asked me if I felt back-door vibes.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm telling the truth. You think he's a backdoor artist? I don't think. He's like a robber. Nah, see, because even when the nigger rob you, it don't always be a back door. A back door is I'm going to rock you to sleep and rob you. He's just going to take it.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Like, he's not coming around smiling at you, smiling at Remo, then wait for Remo to go outside and take a piss. Give me a, no, he's coming in here, on the table, everything. Like, he's not going to be sneaky with it. Like, back door. Change man.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Sneaky. I mean, he still got it in him. Maybe. He made me nervous. He seems like he gets that if he wants to make it in the music industry, he needs to play ball and be a nice guy. But who knows how he's treating people outside of the music industry. I think outside of the music industry, that's just him.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Like, honestly, I think like he's really trying to change. He seems like it. And you got people who's. crazy like him who want peace you haven't seen him do anything crazy since he's been out right i got feel his energy bro yeah but you haven't seen anything you know it's not like you've i seen some videos of him knocking people out and doing shit that y y y y y y y y i probably never seen i believe he got it in him for sure but yeah that nigg is dangerous so okay look back to the first question why where are you from and i'm from hollum new y you're you're an oh why no i'm a yg we got
Starting point is 00:26:11 beef with them right yeah like these are the two like my side The side is like Shah G's, D-Thing, U's G's, like Kenzo B, Maya V, like. If you were to compare both sides to the BDs and the G-Ds, O-I's and O-Gs is definitely the O-Block. They clicked up with O-block. Because they're the ones who are doing the best in the music industry as well.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Who's up on the scoreboard? Damn, that's a trick question. You don't got to get detailed with your answer. I mean, as far as people that matter, we are really yeah but as far as like just randoms getting you know no disrespect to nobody that right shot or hurt or passes away we don't need to know the details i'm just wondering what the no mood is on the street everything like a lot of shit is like oh so i could talk about it like it's not like i'm gonna say hey johnny shot him five times in front of the building but i could tell you
Starting point is 00:27:08 like yeah like you know sounds crazy though because if you're talking about like young kids what they would say to that question they don't give a about anything that happened five years ago They don't. And it's crazy because, like, I blame, like, you see how we were just talking about, like, how the young niggas don't fuck with me? You, when we started this shit. So you feel like you started the YGs? I'm one of the people, yeah. Like, I'm one of the first notable ones that put in enough work to make us go to the next level.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like, I'm responsible for it, like, becoming a gang to a certain extent. Because we was all like renegade bloods who didn't want to fucking listen to the older homies, right? And we just like, I was just on some shit like, oh, these niggas rules. Like, let's just do our own thing. Right, because like to go from being seen as just like a crew, never mind like a little rapper crew. That's what it was. But to be viewed as like actual like a threat to when I got this cut on my face. They put you in that category.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That's why I got cut. that's why they cut me really it was like you're trying to level up you doing too much like you think you bigger than blood like beefing with us nigger you think like your gang is like better than I was and it's gonna can outlast us and I mean we only been out for 20 years 20 years of wow you consider trying to mackleud I just thought he was when I was locked up with him but he was just denying yeah I thought he was like Like, there's a blood game called the Mac bowlers, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And everybody's name got Mac, right? At one point in time, right? Everybody name has something Mac or something baller, right? It's just like everybody in YG, they got something G's, right? Oh, okay. So if you're original, your name is young something. Like, my name was Young Po. That's the tattoo on my neck.
Starting point is 00:29:12 All my friends had young names. We were young gunners, right? So you could tell by the levels of the nigger about how he's named. Like if his name is his name, then he'd probably been YG for a long time. But if his name is like something G's, he's a part of the new generation.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Okay. So China Mac saying he was never blood. China Mac saying that he was never blood, I don't know if I believe that. But if we go back into his old music videos, we might be able to find some bars. No, yeah, yeah. He definitely was acquainted with them.
Starting point is 00:29:48 We should do a deep dive. We should do a like real research. I did an interview with China Mac, right? That never came out. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like before he even, before even, yeah, before he even migrated to the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Okay. Right? Because he migrated back. We was like under the same management in like 2018, 2017. It was, I don't know, you seen that jacket? That jacket. jacket I was wearing my man dope chef right he got some shit called UMG okay right and universal music group not universal but underground music I got some shit right I don't want to make it like I don't
Starting point is 00:30:31 want to say it wrong that's why I'm stuttering because I want to say it right but I don't remember anyway UMG right my man dope chef he was managing me and china mac but it was more like a partnership because we was both bringing shit to the table like China Mac was doing some shit called Red Money at that time Okay And him and that nigger
Starting point is 00:30:55 owned the studio together And that was my main studio Okay So we were together all the time We used to always like Oh let's do a record Whatever Never got the record done
Starting point is 00:31:07 But we did an interview And it just never came out I don't know what happened to it But I'm talking reckless in it Huh? Are you talking reckless in it? nah I just I don't know why I never came out to be honest you have to ask him but he interviewed me he was the first person to interview me about what really happened to my face
Starting point is 00:31:26 okay like that was something that the first person I ever shared the actual story with like no dancing around no playing games was him because that was probably a big deal to you it was a big deal it's a big deal that happened it's a big deal people just kind of knowing about it right The dangers of white pants right there, my friend. Yeah, I know. It wasn't even that I didn't, like, me personally, like, I really like to make people chase my story. Like, I don't really like to be the nigger
Starting point is 00:31:58 to just give you everything. Like, so I'll beat around the bush with certain shit or I'll dance around certain shit. And then if the right person asked me, like, y'all, fuck with Remo and Adam. So if y'all ask me, I'm gonna tell y'all. But if I'm at an interview with whoever, and he's like, yeah, so what happened in your face? And I'm just like, nigga, I got cut.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You know? Yeah. Certain people ask me something. I'm like offended that you haven't watched me talk about this on other podcasts. So it's almost like I'm not going to give you that. Like, because doing interviews is all about respect. The person, you have to respect the person who's asking you questions in order to like really be forthcoming, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Otherwise, like, I could do an interview with some random person that I don't respect. but if their questions are really good, I could have that conversation. But if you want like basic shit out of me, I'm probably gonna have to respect you. Yeah. Like certain people, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Like, I ain't comfortable. Certain people, I don't even play with. Like, you look at when I came up here with Jay Main, like, you ain't gonna find another interview like that nowhere. I felt like Jay Main was almost a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:10 weirded out by all of a sudden taking the back seat during his own interview because we had a bunch of shit that we just asked you in the middle of it and that he's just sitting there getting over high just kind of like spacing out and like forgetting about the fact that he's even doing an interview.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Um, I think it was just a miscommunication between me and him because I was telling Remo on the way here like I'm not really the type of nigga to like try to overstep. Right. we like demanded you get on camera and tell us a bunch of shit you get it like I was never even trying to come nowhere near this room if I was J-mane I would have been weirded out if you were being thirsty trying to get on camera I feel you but it wasn't really like that we were just actually I was literally all the way out there he was like why the fuck are you not in here right yeah and then I went from there to like nigga pull up a chair so me personally I was here for the experience like I kind of just wanted to be behind the scenes I wanted to see it
Starting point is 00:34:13 I'm I sit there I watch you on TV every day right I watch you on TV every day Now I'm in the Room that I didn't even know exists right I know jump so I'm like at at a amusement park like I made video I never put them up but like I made videos walking around like I was fanned out like you know No disrespect to myself, but I was just like oh shit like this shit is the way this shit is set up is makes me like respected even more thank you you know what I'm saying so I was just kind of like being a tourist out there and I got to watch the actual interview live on television so I was good
Starting point is 00:34:55 so how much backlash did you actually get from that interview because you were dissing the GDs I ain't really get no backlash it was like the GDs know it's them already like they know why they know how it got there they know like we was cool Let's break that down. Let's break it down. Because I ain't really touch on it. You didn't touch on it. You didn't touch on you.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You mentioned why you don't like the GDs and stuff. I don't like them because they always doing sneaky shit. All right. But, like at least with a fucking BD, he niggily just going straight do it to me. Like GDs, they act like they cool with you. They meet your mother. They stay in your house.
Starting point is 00:35:33 They wear your clothes. And then they steal from you. And then when you get mad and want your shit back, they act like it's beef. Like, yo, Adam, I want that pillow. Right. I want you to put those up on your website because my baby mother even wants a pillow.
Starting point is 00:35:49 She's seen Mama Duck with a pillow. Yeah. Yeah, she's seen Mama Duck with a pillow. She's like, bring me back a pillow. I'm like, Mama Doug probably thinks about the $600. She says, oh, every time she looks at that pillow.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yo, I wanted to get there too, right? Wait, not. Why do you owe everybody so much money? We're going to talk about it. Why do you owe so much people money? How does this happen? That's one person and she's lying. But a lion, everybody's lying.
Starting point is 00:36:10 But a mega lion. He's over lying. All right. So, look, with the GV situation, You got robbed in New York. Yes. And it was supposedly the blickies. It was, it was.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Shout out to two, geez, my boy. It wasn't too, too. Shout out to all the twirlers. It wasn't none of the rappers. No, no twirlers? Nah, but I was with them. Okay. So I blamed them.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Oh. Like, it's like a Tupac situation. Yeah. Like y'all niggas knew I was going to be here and y'all knew them niggas was going to be here. And y'all ain't tell me. Fuck y'all niggas. What chain was it?
Starting point is 00:36:41 It was a chain that never ever hit the end. internet like that's a funny part right it was a chain that looked like a dream chase a piece right yeah but it said money team because me on my block we had some shit called mt where you know we was getting to the bag that was our little shit right cool my shit said money team but it was like a dream chaser piece and it was on the thick rope chain that's what got took them from me that the the pictures with next to my ID, not my jury. The niggas out, it was
Starting point is 00:37:17 four niggas there. But nobody never actually said what happened because them niggas got indictments and all types of cases. So I never actually told the story the way it should be told so people could know like NVK didn't rob me, 2 2Gs
Starting point is 00:37:35 didn't rob me. Coastered like none of them niggas ain't robbed me like. Who did it? Some older nigger from their hood who supposed to be connected to a nigga named Dementio that my pops killed a long time ago. Oh. Right? Now, what I can say is that young niggas knew what was going to happen,
Starting point is 00:37:55 but they couldn't stop it. So, Remo, don't invite me all the way out here to L.A. to no jumper, nigger. And if some niggas is waiting outside, nigger, you're going to put me out there by myself. Yeah. Don't do that. Tell me before I get there, like, yo, I'm pussy. So you need to make sure you got your gun. Right?
Starting point is 00:38:13 or if you tell me yo I got you poe you good yo do I need security nah do I need a gun no you good nigga it's my hood you good and I'm not good in your hood nigga you're a bitch and it's that now so how does this altercation lead to you falling out with being there black yeah because that nigga they called that nigger before they did that shit they called that nigger and they asked that nigger like You know, we got poet.
Starting point is 00:38:44 What's up with this nigga? Like, you fuck with him, with him or... And whatever answer he gave them wasn't convincing enough for them not to move. That's just my opinion. I can't state that as a fact because I wasn't on the phone. But how are you preview to the information that he got the call anyway?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Like, how you know? He told me. So he told you like, hey, the nigga called me. Yeah, but like, I don't think he was like... I don't think he understood what he was telling me when he told me that. Like that was literally the missing piece to what I was trying to figure out. Like, why did this happen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:21 It wasn't no reason. It wasn't no beef. It wasn't no issues. It wasn't no funny vibes. It was like, why did this happen? And how did y'all niggas get the, how, like, how to fuck? That's like Adam. You come to my hood.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You go to Marhaven. You go to Polo. You go to RPT. You go to any hood. that's a YG hood and something happened to you, nigger, and I'm telling you I'm damn near the leader. Right. Nigger, something wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'm not going to really be partial to you after you get me into that situation. For sure. You know, like... You're telling me that you really got control of this area that you're going to protect me and then you don't. Now, the way I am, I'm real just, I'm going with security regardless because I'm just at the point where I don't feel like
Starting point is 00:40:07 I'm going to trust anybody, but from like a normal perspective. I was just blowing up at the time. Yeah, yeah. You know, I wasn't like... I was getting like 5,000 a show. I wasn't nobody. You probably should have had the hammer on you regardless, huh? I mean, I kind of did, but like I said, I can't really speak on it
Starting point is 00:40:23 because those niggas is like in conspiracies and shit like that. Right. Still open, still in jail. Got it. Whatever, right? So I never really spoke the actual story. Like, I gave niggas the runaround. Oh, yeah, I went to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I hung with some niggas. They lied me. Who did it? niggas. Like, that's it. It was never, like, detailed. But, like, that was the missing piece that I was trying to figure out. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Like, fuck me. If they don't respect me, they don't know me, whatever. But, like, nigga, I went to Chicago and really locked in with the GDs in Chicago. Like, not just billionaire and duck, rest in peace, and, like, the older niggas, like,
Starting point is 00:41:09 the board members, I'm locked in. Niggas from the feds calling me from the feds. Yo, ah, ha, ha, politicking, preach with me. All right, cool. Like, I was damn near GD. Like, damn there, like, I wasn't, but I was basically letting them be known like, yo, we YGs,
Starting point is 00:41:28 this is how we moving, we fuck with y'all, we was clicked up. So I'm locked in with Adam and Remo, but I got robbed by brick baby at no jumper. Mm. Bad luck. Not saying that y'all, bigger than him in any way, but I'm speaking on you being.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I should be able to tell him not to do that if I'm telling you to come around. And if I asked you, right, right, let's say I'm, what's this nigger name, from D.C.? Aunt Gleazy. Let's say I'm Aunt Gleazy, right? And I got a problem with Brick Baby from back then when I used to be with Jim Jones in 2005, right? So I'm nervous to come up here because I don't know what's going to happen. Because I know that I said some stuff about Brick Baby, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So when I call you and say, hey, Adam, am I good? Or do I need to come up in here like Wooten-Witt? Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to come in here like, you. Yo, when I tell niggas don't play with John Wick, I'm serious, bro. Right. That's not a nigga you want to play with. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That nigger's hardcore. Like Little Kim album, hardcore. Okay. You heard? I got you. So where are we? So don't tell me to come somewhere that I'm safe.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Right. And then something fucking happens to me. Now I look at you a little bit different. Right. So me being the gang member and I'm locked in with these other gang members and we're literally making plays, nigga. Did you not see me put billionaire black
Starting point is 00:43:08 on a song with Cardi B? That wasn't no fucking cool shit, nigga that was a fucking play we knew that nigga if she called me to do the song with me yo send me a couple of records I'm gonna go whichever one I like I'm gonna get
Starting point is 00:43:27 on because once I sign she gonna be different just right before the Atlantic deal why did you say why did you put billionaire on it instead because I was fucking with them heavy at that time we was everywhere together we was everywhere together
Starting point is 00:43:42 like we was going state to state together Airbnb, getting fly, fucking bitches, doing features, doing shows, everything together. And Yellow, right? Because Yellow was-N-N-N-N-N-Lah was already on some bitch shit over Queen D. He'd been out the mix. Because one of the first times I actually seen you and Yellow together was in like an exact TV. Me, Yellow and Billionaire.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah, this is when Yellow first got shot doing the No More movement, right? Yeah. When he first started pushing peace, right? He got shot before he moved. I flew out there. We did the Zach TV interview, and then the very next day I did my Zach TV interview. That's how everybody found out who I was. Now, same situation like the J. Mae interview.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I came to support. He put the light on me. Yeah, this is somebody's son. That's your move, huh? Show up at somebody else's interview and then get your own interview? No, but that's usually what happens. I respect it. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:41 And if you look at the interview, you could see, I was, one way, over here and Zach said hey you know anybody from New York cool with anybody from New York because he was trying to do a lot of like dipset interviews and shit so he asked yellow like you cool anybody from New York like he's like yeah I got a nigga with me from New York right here right now and I'm all the way over there yeah that's like one of the first songs I seen yes what the fuck are you doing with him so what you think I was there for you think I was I just want to hang out with them and just die you were the shooter I mean when I needed to be yeah
Starting point is 00:45:14 But I was there to connect the dots on a music level. I was there to connect the dots from Chicago to New York. I was the first nigga from New York to go to Chicago and actually live that shit, not just stay in the hotel downtown and do a music video in an expensive mansion. No, go to the trenches. So you feel like you played a part in like the drill culture of New York? I am the reason, bro, when I came home, 2011. It was no drill music. It was just Waka Flaka.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah, who can we really say is the root of New York drill? Me. He said he created a group. You gotta say me because... Are we talking sonically or just dissing a million ops on one song? No, I'm talking about both. I'm talking about my first record right now. If you look me up, it's called Knocked Off and it's a Highbridge and Cortland this. What year? 2013. Who else was making drill out in New York at that time period? My ops.
Starting point is 00:46:13 some some niggas from white planes okay right and they was like basically we was basically doing our own records off of chicago beats like if we hear a nice beat she keep used or fredo or somebody when did pop smoke come out 2017 pop not like 18 20 yeah really yeah he got pop in no pop was only only out 11 months and died that was it really yeah like pop i seen pop coming too like, like, I seen, like,
Starting point is 00:46:46 I was proud of that, like, that, the reason why I won't take rap serious no more is because that happened to him.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Like, that changed me in a drastic way, like how Tupac's murder or Biggie's murder changed people lives back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Because when I seen Pop get that big and still get killed, because our whole mind frame was we get rich, we move out the hood like Chief Keith. We never get killed. Right?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Pop underestimated L.A. Hell no. More or less, right? No. What do you call it? What it was? It was a setup. Set up by who?
Starting point is 00:47:27 Somebody around him. He leaked his own address. So? On social media. Every artist do that when they go to the club. Do you think that these young-ass Hoover kids who ran up in a spot were sent there by somebody in the housework? By somebody I was smarter than them, yeah. That's usually what happens in gangs.
Starting point is 00:47:43 but who do you think sent it? You're saying somebody sent him up that was with pot smoke or you're saying like he was sent the I feel like I feel like I feel like a mixture of both I feel like
Starting point is 00:47:55 he was out there with some niggas that's not like that they leaned on them niggas and them niggas folded that's how I feel personally whoever was in charge of because every artist got ahead of security
Starting point is 00:48:08 whether it's legal or illegal I think he was too new I don't think he had ahead of security right bro listen this is pop but there was nobody around it was just him and that's one in a million anywhere else you would have seen them it was all them niggas but a lot of people make that mistake as a young rapper they think i need security when i go to the club i need security when i go to perform but i don't need security at the crib and and that is true for a lot of people it just turns
Starting point is 00:48:33 out that if you're pop smoke and if you have you know a 50 000 necklace or whatever the it might have been you might need security at the crib overnight as well right you telling me, right, out of all of fucking houses, you said he leaked his address, so he put the goons on itself, right? Well, I mean, that's what I guess. Then I guess. But me personally, like, my manager, right? And I got a couple.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I got a road manager. I got a regular manager. I got a digital manager. I got a corporate manager. Right? And they all are street smart, but they all not from the streets. And they still ain't letting nothing happen to me. And I have way worse beef than him.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Way worse. Every nigga I got beefed with got over a million dollars. Every nigga that don't like me, you'll never see him do interviews about it because it's real. It's me now, after I don't have my way with them, niggas, now I'm just talking shit. I've seen a million rappers come from out of town and they get an Airbnb in L.A.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Up in the valley. They're good. And nothing happens Pop just had like a really bad roll of the dice That he accidentally put his address online And that he actually had some other fuckers pull up That's how I see it Yo bro, that shit though
Starting point is 00:49:54 Like and then he had even worse luck That they ended up shooting him instead of just taking some shit But that's because he didn't want to give it up Like he act like he was about to give it up And like every nigga Because I went through that when I was getting robbed Take that shit off Nigga I ain't taking off shit
Starting point is 00:50:10 nigga take that shit off that niggas ain't serious i'm looking at remo but you got a mask on now like nigger you just walked out the room and came back with a mask and you're gonna act like the same remorse so you knew who robbed you yes yeah i was around these niggas every day older niggas young niggas everybody i'm walking through the projects i'm chilling with them i'm going to the studio we're going on a road to do shows like you see that the one of the kids who killed poss smokers out because he was tried as a juvenile. He only locked up
Starting point is 00:50:44 for a couple years. He already walking the streets again. See. Making disrespectful posts on Instagram allegedly. I don't know if I should believe the Reddit post that I've seen. Reddit is kind of accurate though. Oh yeah. Like I just started a Reddit and I was like looking at mad random shit
Starting point is 00:50:59 and it's just like true. You'll get addicted to looking at the Reddit shit because it'll be like these dudes, these 17 year old kids from some Mexican gang that I never heard of beating the shit out of some other gang. I never heard of and that that shit would never get posted on an Instagram page necessarily because it's super violent and because they're just random fucking people but Reddit will have you observing hell of people getting beat up at the bus stop that you
Starting point is 00:51:24 never would have known about. Yo, Reddit, I seen some shit on Reddit that I thought I would never see. Yeah? Yeah, from a girl that I thought I would never see in that manner. What's your post? No, she didn't post anything. somebody posted a video of her doing some shit and I ain't even think like that she was that kind of girl well sexual or yeah yeah yeah of course it was sexual ready got all the leaks like how like I seen all
Starting point is 00:51:54 your fucking shit on redd only plug talk dot com five dollars a month I can't even find the website but I keep finding Reddit links like only plug talk dot com listen listen type in go to google and just type in It's out. All right. Back to business. All right. You can't encourage that kind of behavior. Oh, shit, my bad.
Starting point is 00:52:21 All right. So, where were we? All right. So my managers, yeah. Managers that was managing you and China Mac? Or did y'all got to be managed that? That's one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Digital manager. All right. That's three managers to this day? Basically, yeah. like I don't I feel like they never got fired I feel like I just stopped working yeah you know what I'm saying like I ain't gonna say like oh I fired this nigga I fired that nigga like I just stopped working bro I told you like when that pop shit happened that shit was discouraging yeah like on a level for a person who's looking at rap to save his life so then you ended up getting new management and then you
Starting point is 00:53:02 said you was managed by the same people who was managing carty B at the time no that's before that that's way before that that's that's way before that that's like shout out to Shaft know I'm saying um and Shaft was managing you
Starting point is 00:53:17 Cardi B and what other artists Shaft was basically managing everybody that was around us like me her fetti I seen Troy
Starting point is 00:53:27 I know he used to manage like fucking Foxy or Kim like this nigga is a beast you feel me yeah like and
Starting point is 00:53:35 self like DJ self Who else? Who else? Who else he had? So you and Cardi B relationship didn't come from The management team? Hell no, no, no, no, no, no. Me and Cardi B relationship
Starting point is 00:53:51 Goes back to Just being in the streets And being in the same neighborhood. Like when I got out of jail I paroled to Highbridge That's where she's from. So going outside, getting familiar. You know,
Starting point is 00:54:07 know what I'm saying, hooking up with different chicks. They got friends. Boom. All right. Here goes, sis. What up, sis? Every day. What up, sis.
Starting point is 00:54:16 What up, sis? Now we go from what up, sis, on the block to every fucking pool party or every event. I'm seeing her. Oh shit. What up, sis? Is she dancing at this time? She's a dancer, yeah, slash model.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. Yeah. Like, because she was real famous. I don't know if people remember, but yeah, I took a picture like her tattoo. Like that flower color. She did like a pool party photo shoot that I remember went viral on her first page because she lost a couple of pages before she got this one. But her Cardi I am Cardi B.B. page. She lost that page. And she had like a viral fucking picture of her leg. Like everybody loved it. You know what I'm saying? And like I seen that at that pool party after I got shot and shot. I seen today. Oh, sis, what up?
Starting point is 00:55:06 so so my little man at the time he was jacking her he like yo what's up with your sis like you hit that before i'm like nah she fired but i ain't never that that always been sis type shit because i'm always with the niggas she's fucking with like her ex-boyfriend was my friend so now here comes the boyfriend from love and hip-hop he's asking me yo what's up with her I'm like, yo, she's good money, like, she's official. And that's Tommy G's? Yes. All right, for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Now, when Tommy and her get together, now that brings us closer because they were together like every day for like two months and then Tommy got locked up. So I had to pick up a lot of slack on his behalf. Like, you called me like, you're like, oh, I ain't going on live, bro, like, hold my wifey down. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need you with her. Because she's doing bookings at this time, hostings, 800. You know, $1,500, whatever, talking shit on the mic, dancing after.
Starting point is 00:56:10 You know what? This is this level. He got locked up at that time. At a certain point, that was kind of like the main way you monetize being a celebrity. Was you, like, got paid these little $2,000 to go to the club, right? Hostings. Yeah, all fucking... Still exists, but it was like...
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah, I just did one. Yeah, I just did one in Jersey. I could probably make that a part of my life if I really needed to, but... I mean, it's if you need the money. Like, I'm gonna be real with you. Like, when I don't need the money, I don't want those kind of bookings. I got one during the porn convention. See, that's different, though.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Made more sense because it's like they really. Yeah, exactly. That's way different. That's like me going to a tattoo convention. Who like had tried to book me and Lenna to go to his club in Arizona. What, club 11, 11? Yeah, I gave him a dollar in mine. He's like, oh, my God, no.
Starting point is 00:56:55 11, 11? So it was the end of that, yeah. Yeah, I think he broke in Card. It takes a lot for me to get off my ass and go to Arizona. I don't know. I ain't never going back there. Why? I got beef of Billy Black of them niggas.
Starting point is 00:57:08 What? Bool-Lake-Kevil protected. Nigger not going to run me over. Bull-L-Kegger. What? Blue-L-Kable, what? Bo-L-K. I doubt if he's going to protect me.
Starting point is 00:57:20 We cool. We're cool, but I doubt he's going to get in the middle of that. Probably not. Yeah, but I'm scared of those niggas. For real? They take slippers. They ran me out of Arizona. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Do you think billionaire black in them are active right now? I don't know they active. They are? I know the extortion gang, take your chain, leave you butt naked on the lane. Really? That's their slogan. Like how you got no jumper at the coolest podcast. And I got the paparazzi platinum plus pole, aka $100,000 bell no jail, $100,000 watch just watch.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Like, that's my slogan. So a billionaire back says he's going to kill me and rob me. Leave you butt naked in the lane. Take it serious? Yes. Are you serious? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I don't know those reputations. Seemed like a nice guy to me. Yeah? I mean, my interaction with him is friendly. If you, if you're his friend, yeah, he's nice. Right. Yeah. But at some point, I think he ain't look at me as a friend no more.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I don't know why. You have to ask him. Looked at you like a leg. If he rolled in one of these days, bro, just ask him like, what's the problem with? He'll be here. Yeah. Just ask him like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I want to find out. What the fucking? We're pushing peace. With y'all too. Nah, yeah, it's peace on my end. But I ain't. taking no risk. I'm not losing no more slippers. No. We're putting whoops.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Fuck that. All right, so back to the Cardi B thing. So, Tommy G. tell you to look out for Cardi B. Yeah, he's telling me like, yo, do you know what I'm saying? Make sure she good. Go out with her, you know? Like, make sure the niggas ain't playing with me. Like, on some in other words, nigger, keep the niggas away from my girl.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And simplest terms. So as you watch her, then y'all decide to do the she starts the skit where she's dating DJ self. All right, so that That happened while I was in jail, right? I got locked up for a violation after altercation with the Crips in the club. They stabbed me.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It was like 60 of them. You can see it on YouTube. It was crazy. Like, if you think John Wick is tough, like, wait until you see me fight 60 Crips and them still talking to you. Like, that's the site you won't want to see. I would like to see that. Yeah, I'm going to send you the link. It's exhilarated.
Starting point is 00:59:27 But, yeah, they was on some bullshit. I was with, you know, looking at the flick at his wrist, chat of the connect. Remember that dude from Texas? Look at the flick of my wrist. Remember that song? I feel like I'm hearing his name right there for the first time though, to be honest. I feel like I've never heard that name before.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Shatter to connect. Okay. Well, he was a Texas rapper. He came out to New York. We was cool. Both with DJ Klu at the time. I'm moving around trying to be a rapper. He's in the city.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm showing him around. We go to the studio with London on the track. I promoter calls us, yo, I got a bag for you. I pull up. We take the last minute bag, pull up to the club. It's like 60 crips, nobody else, and just us six niggas in the VIP. I should have known something wasn't right at that point, but like at that point,
Starting point is 01:00:19 like I'm really one of those niggas. Like, before a lot of shit happened to me, I used to feel like, a nigger ain't going to dare play with me. I don't care if it's just me and you, Adam, and we got slippers on. A nigger that won't dare play with us because I know how I get. For me, so I slept on them. I seen the bunch of crips. Even though I'm not blood or I ain't have beef with them,
Starting point is 01:00:42 I still should have been on alert. Like, like, nigger just called you to a party, gave you a little bullshit $3,500. You walk in to fucking crib party. And it's like, it didn't hurt that we all had on red. So that became an issue. Is that the YG's color? Nah, YG's color is like that green.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Okay. Yeah, like the greenie. tattoos. Why you all wearing red? Just coincidence? Yeah. I had on like a black and red hat. Your team Cardi B at this point too. Exactly. So our tire is fucking red, right? Sue Wu. Straight like that. Okay. Right? So
Starting point is 01:01:21 it didn't help, right? For the issue, we get into it, I get stabbed. I'm on a run at this time. So you get stabbed out. There's a run up on you in the booth? Oh yeah. They ran up. They was like, yo, take your hat off. I said, I'm not taking my hat off. They threw a bottle at the hat. The hat fell off. I picked it up, put it back on, and then they rushed my VIP. Damn.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah, they were serious. They wanted my hat. Shoutouts to those niggas. You got to love a random beef thing about none. Because there's so many beasts that are about, like, important shit, that like, this, this just sounds like the dumbest beef. Bro, it was, it was random. Like, that's why, like, I'd be moving how I'd be moving because it's like, yo, bro, it'll be the day.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You really think nothing. ain't nothing ain't and it just go down. So I guess that I'm on a run at this time from parole. So I wake up, cuff to the bed. I go up north and when I go up north this is when the love and hip-hop thing
Starting point is 01:02:17 starts. The film and the shit starts. Okay. Right? So I get locked up like February, 2015 and I come home like October. Like right after the first or second episode just aired. Mm-hmm. So when I came home, like that storyline was the storyline and no, we ain't discussed it or nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like, she did what she had to do. So I jacked it. I came straight home, fell right in line, right back where I was at. Like. So you was around her, DJ Self during the end until it was hip-hop. Yeah, but like, you know, that's your TV, gang, like, like all that shit, like some of that should be that. Like, put it like this. maybe they did exchange numbers before before the show yeah but like she was a
Starting point is 01:03:10 myself you know like but I don't know why I don't know how I don't know who runs loving hip hop I don't know why they wanted that storyline or if that was going on and I wasn't in the I don't know but I went with it what years 2015 so in 2013 you was dropping high bridge this yeah How the hell you and Cardi B was able to even be friends If she from the bridge And you drop in this track towards her hood Because I was
Starting point is 01:03:40 That beef I was actually defending Somebody Some people that Like That beef came I heard that beef from being friends with Niggas she was fucking with
Starting point is 01:03:52 Put it like that So If you If she from the bridge And her boyfriend got beef with niggas From the bridge How do you think she feel about Some of the bridge
Starting point is 01:04:03 So you don't like a boogie Who me? Yeah I love Haybuggy. Okay. I don't think he likes me. Because of you dissing his hood? He knows why, though.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Other personal shit? He knows why. Like, I used to run with y'all. Like, y'all know what the problem is. The problem is the problem, and we have a problem. You know what's crazy is that I interviewed Abeo back in the day. But he don't like me, I don't think. Because one time I went on Vlad, I think it was like the first or second time I was on Vlad.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And for some reason, something about that, Vlad, room you just sitting in that dark room with the drum sets behind you and it's just like you just start saying shit and for some reason i repeated something that somebody had told me somebody who i trusted i'm not saying that this is actually true but i basically said that kodak black would never with a boogie because kodak said that a boogie got a shit took and never did nothing about it which somebody told me that that was why kodak never did the video to their collaboration together drowning which was a huge song somebody told me that that somebody who I really, really trust,
Starting point is 01:05:07 who I do not ever think would ever lie about. So who do you think robbed them? I don't know. I don't even know the details of the story. I just for some reason said that to Vlad of like that's why Kodak didn't do that video. And then A. Boogie said something on a story about it. Go on YouTube and type in Paparazzi Poe Snatch Highbridge.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You took his chain? Shut the fuck up. I ain't take nobody's chain. But go on YouTube and type in Paparazzi Pole Highbridge. And you're going to see there's a lot of chains took them from them niggas. Ap-A-R-Z-I-Z-I-P-O. High-R-R-A-Z-I-R-Bridge. You're going to see is a lot of chains being exchanged.
Starting point is 01:05:46 It's a lot of the clips that we did with you. Yeah? Whoa, I don't even remember mentioning him. I don't see anything about you taking the High Bridge chain, but... Just type in robbery. K-Flock claims paparazzi Pro ran for me. That's another joke. I've got to watch that now.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I should have done more research. You should. I'm not chilling. I'm on vacation mode. Just type in robbery. Okay. That way you get to the juicy stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:09 But type in me on FaceTime with moms. Okay. Pabarazzi Poe talks getting robbed in Brooklyn for his chain. No, that's not what you want. Nope. You're getting close. Pobarazzi Post stands up against 30 plus crips in a Queens nightclub. Save that and watch it later.
Starting point is 01:06:24 That's not the video. Look, keep going. Goons show Pobarazzi Post jury. There goes. That's the picture. Hope Boy cheese got robbed. I don't know. That's the incident we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Okay. Keep going. You really got me digging deep here. Oh, yeah. I've been, I've been... I've been... I've been lived for like 12 years, bro. What's this?
Starting point is 01:06:45 20, 23? 2020. Yeah, I've been, I've been lit since, like, 2011. I just haven't seen anything, but you're taking a hybrid stream. We've got to figure out what to search for that. So on the internet... Just type in... Paparazzi pole takes hybrid chain.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I already searched... Nah, we typed in... Paparcipo takes... Hybrid stream. so did you aim did you take the chain they're really getting a i had them into my googling abilities right i had them potsy roc paparazzi pro with hybrid chain so that's you holding one of the you can't see a face but why would i show my face i mean as old as so it's like six years ago and when when did the song come out
Starting point is 01:07:31 i don't know but so you're saying that you took his chain i'm saying that i right had a couple of high bridge chains at that time. That's crazy that I was willing to volunteer this story about me and Vlad talking about it. And then, spoiler. Yeah. April, you don't think I just manufactured this whole thing? It happens like that all the time. But I had my hands on a couple of those chains around that time.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So yes, there was a robbery. Okay. That occurred. See, I'm talking about dumb shit without even knowing about what the full rumor actually is. That happens to me a lot. That's why I'd be kind of like. You need to be giving credit for your robberies. Nah, I don't want the credit.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I don't want the credit. Like, that's like a trophy to us. Like, we love it. Okay. That's like, it's a payday, nigga. Somewhere rich. They were saying it was the hottest out of New York for a while there. He was.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And then he just fell back. What happened? I don't think he fell back. I think he, like, caught cases and shit. Really? Yeah. I heard, like, Jersey, house got raided, some shit. Oh, I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, he had a lot going on, but he should be good now, though. he got enough money to make it all go away think he could fit in in the the drill era of the bronx he should be able to be the he's the he's the fucking nigger he's the nigger that can son be love and shai k and him but like the way that fabio has managed to become an elder statesman to the drill because he can make drill music but he's also a little bit more of an artist he can flesh it out make real songs the last but he also embraces the four ones and all all these little drill dudes and is able to harness their and energy because Fabio's a old head compared to all these children.
Starting point is 01:09:12 If I ain't get locked up as much as I did, then I'll be one of those niggas, like, carrying the young niggas on some drill shit. But that's what we need to see from A. Boogie is that he can be the old head who still remains cool with the next generation. I think that he's just going to embrace the little niggas that's from his side, which he did, like Bubba Savage and B-Love and Shai-K and K-Flock. You know, he embraced those kids. He did songs with them.
Starting point is 01:09:36 like he did what he could but like the last drill record he did was with like billionaire black and he wasn't doing he was singing like dirk on the song he wasn't actually drill rapping his style of rap was never it went from like bars like battle rap to that singing shit okay a booy with a hoodie dropped a video two months ago and a project well yeah i ain't hear about that i'm pretty sure yeah i didn't hear about that and then but the the the song he did drop did like five million views i mean he's been dropping a bunch of stuff but it's a lot of he's in the same lane as little tj bro that's not drill rap oh no definitely not a boogie and little tj and but if he wants to harness the the younger generation of kids from the bronx or the bronx and myr's
Starting point is 01:10:25 he needs to be able at least somehow makes sense in that landscape right he did songs would be loved but they weren't drill songs he took be loved to his world okay I don't think he can go back to that. A lot of artists, yeah, a lot of artists, they can't switch it up. Like, he can switch it up. The niggas can, I call him Michael Jackson for the Bronx, right? Fabio. No, not Fabio.
Starting point is 01:10:54 A boogie. Yeah, Fabio is in Brooklyn. No, I mean, he put out a whole tape in 2022, so we can't, or a whole album, whatever you want to call it. It's not exciting to us no more. Unless. But he's very, very successful. I give him that. Like, he's very talented.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I don't think it's over. I just feel like his style of music is out of style. Okay. Like, nobody's not listening to that right now. So you feel like if you made more drill records, he will have- He can't make drill records. He's never been on a drill. He can't make drill records.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Every nigger you've seen, right, the real deal drill artist, don't they go to jail or die for the shit that they talk about? Not really. Oh, yeah? A little dirt, so I don't know. What? I ain't seen what. and Dirk just, I mean, he'd been in the jail, but
Starting point is 01:11:40 But what makes you think Dirk is a Vaughn? That's two totally different people. That's a rapper and a shooter. No, I'm just at a drill artist. No, I'm talking about real drill artist. Like, nigga, like K. Flock? Yeah, up in the fashion. He did that, right?
Starting point is 01:11:57 You've seen his lyrics come to life? You've seen Vaughn lyrics come to life? Yeah. Only certain artists, either you go to jail for that shit or you die for that shit. So did K. Flot really make you run from him? No. nah but that's how he was carrying it on the live when you watch the live it's funny you
Starting point is 01:12:13 gonna see we used to go live a lot i seen that was that was my little man like i was i was always the older nigger like i put it like this when i reached out to the little niggas and told them listen this what we're doing now we're gonna do this music shit we're gonna keep it in the music and we're gonna keep it out the streets right i got on the phone with niggas like boobo savage and shai y k and them and i say yo listen that's try this let's just try doing this on music and keep it out the streets no niggas did this niggas did that all right we both could yell that back and forth right but for me being a nigger who used to hang in your hood who we all used to be cool I'm saying we ain't got to be cool
Starting point is 01:12:55 but let's just keep it in the music and let's take it a little less out the streets because y'all see i got a little taste of what this music shit could do so don't say here and act like you don't want this opportunity so when y'all see me trolling them little niggas, I was helping them get in front of y'all face. Just like when they dissed me, they're helping me get in front of your face. You understand what I'm saying? I understood that dynamic from hanging in Chicago and seeing Vaughn and Doug do it. These niggas talking every day on the phone like they're friends.
Starting point is 01:13:26 You know, I'm about to diss you, right? Vaughn over understood that because I think that his beef with young boy was like, there was like a real root of it. It's not like he necessarily would have just invented it. of thin air, but he understood the value of beefing. And he understood that the amount of leverage or the amount of attention that he had got out of beefing with Duck had been capitalized on. Like there just wasn't any new ground to touch by people with Duck.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Meanwhile, you beef with Young Boy, you're engaging tens of millions of extremely active fans. So now you understand why Vaughn was so big. And they could actually listen to you and they could actually listen to Dirk. Like you might become their new favorite rapper. They might not fuck with Young Boy anymore because your shit's kind of hard. hard too I understand so so no understanding that I'm literally seeing this yeah when I go to Chicago I realize all these niggas is brothers cousins and friends and they all just pick the side to get money with and it seemed like the BD side just works faster so
Starting point is 01:14:28 niggas shy away from the GD side so me being me right I I'm like it let me help y'all get acquainted with some other fucking high level GDs that could probably pull y'all up right this is my mind frame coming around a bunch of niggas from Chicago that's getting lit on the internet yeah I'm like I could probably be like a ditty or something okay I just ask how do you feel 2 2 G's is viewed within New York at this point because too personally on a musical level too too too I really like his music too listen two to two two to that nigga because if you want to think if you want to really sit here and break it down to science the style that we're using is his style we just did it our way in the Bronx right
Starting point is 01:15:20 sped it up made a little rough we just did it our way you get it like it's just like his style came from somewhere you understand what he said his influence was chief keef right okay his style came from somewhere he put his own spice to it He bring the blicky to blickie the word blicky right He brung the dance right he brung the movement He got locked up for a body He's K flock of 20 fucking 16th Doesn't he have another attempt of murder case right now or some shit?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Some shit like that I think I've seen some shit about a club There was a video of him like shooting somebody on the street I believe listen God bless him like even though I don't Where a lot of niggas he f*** with I got nothing but love and respect Do you feel like it's always going to be tough for him because he's not in the cool gang? Because the woo's a little bit more. They suck up the energy like the BDs, right, in terms of New York? But I seen him get like acknowledged by the greats.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Like, nigga, I've seen Cuevo post his fucking video to Orlando. But you think that would happen right now? I don't know if it's going to, I think, I think that a record changes everything. I think that if Tutu just gives us another one of those records we like from Tutu Everybody would Get right back where they need to be
Starting point is 01:16:45 I don't think it's nowhere near over for him He's young That nigga ain't 30 He's young Just had his first kid He getting his feet wet That nigga could still come And run this whole shit
Starting point is 01:16:59 You gotta think about it Pop smoking them niggas Rest in peace they were talking about him Bobby Smurder them niggas they was talking about them. 2-2G's Dizzy Devil featuring J-Dobrizi four weeks ago, 377K.
Starting point is 01:17:14 That's because he's not buying views and he ain't got nobody pushing that. Like, he don't got no machine behind him no more. He dropped a couple videos that are doing like 120K. Yeah, before you'll see four videos of 2-2 on World Star, another four videos over here, another four videos over here, and then a freestyle.
Starting point is 01:17:29 This is the whole Brooklyn. He really only dropped a couple things last year. I think he fired his manager or something. Kodak feature video Only 2.3 million This was like decent but for Keep a blicky 2.3 million a year ago See I'm very like amateur
Starting point is 01:17:47 Understanding of New York Yeah, nah I see what with Tutu is like Tutu started some shit And then a nigga named K Flock did it better Right oh yeah That's just it You think that K Flock sucked up the
Starting point is 01:17:59 22G's aura pause So think about the 5 year old foreign flow We watched it transformed from a JD to a little less, right? More Sosa Geeks slash Pop Smoke, right? All right, what you think Pop was doing that whole time? He took Dave Flo and did it better. He was in the shadows the whole time.
Starting point is 01:18:22 As Fabio and the niggas was blowing up, he was there. He was pulling up with his car, letting niggas use it for the video, whatever. Like, he was around and then, like Jigwapo said, I went to sleep at my session. I let the nigger use the time. he used it to the best of his ability.
Starting point is 01:18:38 That's what happens. Tutu's drill guard. That's Chief Keith for Brooklyn, right? That's what I call him. He's the Chief Keith for Brooklyn. I just wonder, you think he gets his respect at this point? He does, but just not probably as much as we as fans feel like he should.
Starting point is 01:18:56 The same thing with Chief Keith. When every time a nigger say, who got more influence, Chief Keith or King Vaughn, I want to smack you. Because you know Keith is we like Vaughn because we like Keith. Vaughn has had more of a recent influence. That's great. But most of Sosa's influence happened 10 years ago. And it's still being felt, but in terms of like recent influence, for sure, I'll give it to King Vaughn.
Starting point is 01:19:22 But in terms of like the last 12 years, for sure, it's so. Keith is the nigger. Keith is the nigga. I don't care. It's just like from the GD side, right? being in black duck like young dutchy
Starting point is 01:19:37 like the original like little jay like the original FBG niggas like the niggas is goats like I don't rate it like it depends on what you rating it like you see how you looking at views and shit
Starting point is 01:19:51 I don't care about it because I know firsthand like yo in my opinion these niggas is ghosts no matter if they make another good song or not. Or another song that does a million views, right? Or not?
Starting point is 01:20:06 To me, you still a goat. Like, I still, if I'm getting in my car right now and I'm in Cali and I'm driving and a Chief Keith song comes on Pandora, I'm not changing it. But that's not the question. The question is, do you listen to Chief Keves' new music? Sometimes, when I get around to it, it's not like when I first started listening to I actually bought his album. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Right? Well, because that first few years of Socialist's career, all the way up to like the Finito era and maybe like a year or two after that, you were really listening to every project. I was, I mean, I was. I was. I was. I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I wasn't. I'm, me personally, I just want to hear the beginning shit. New tape drops. We listen to it 10 plus times in the car, out riding bikes or going to parties or whatever. That was just where we were at at that point. And that is a certain level of fandom. Honestly, if Dirk drops right now, I'm going to listen to the album 10 times.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Okay. I can't say that about all that many rappers, realistically. See, now, me personally, I think, like, with Dirk, it's periodic for me. Like, I'm trying to think of what artist that, like, I never stop bumping these shit no matter what. Like, that's what I'm looking for out of these people. Future problem. It's a tall order. I never even listen to a whole future album besides the one with him and Uzi.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah, no, I lost, like, okay, future drops an album and I listen to every fucking song. Like, I listen to it 10 plus times, the mixtape run, before that even a little bit, then at a certain point after Dirty Sprite 2, it's sort of you slowly lose a little bit of interest in the projects. And it's like, Future sells hard songs, but when he drops an album right now, I don't remember to listen to it. If it's not on GTA, I don't hear it. If your music is not on GTA, bro, I don't listen to your music. Future got to step up his roll-ups.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I feel like that nigga, but he goaded already. He's goaded, but you just heard what he said. Like, you ever heard a whack future song, though? No. But a lot of those songs cease to kind of stand out to you at a certain point, right? Because it feels like you kind of heard Future make the same song a million times. It's good. It's still good.
Starting point is 01:22:27 But it just doesn't really. I don't feel it in my heart Like if I listen to it I'm listening to it because I'm a future fan And because I'm a student of hip hop And because I want to have a conversation About what his music sounds like right now It's not like oh my God he dropped
Starting point is 01:22:40 I got to listen to it Nah I don't think nobody I'm also 40 Nobody at this point got that effect Besides like sexy red and like Cardi B And like playboy carrie and like Playboy car like that Party draw right now
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah like people like We not like a lot of rappers We not really we see premiere We like huh whatever Like I got to watch it because I need to report on it, but do I really want to watch it? Is it like, am I sitting there while the countdown is going on? What does that say about you as a hip-hop fan if the only reason that you're listening to some shit when it comes out is so that you can talk about it. Because I feel that way too where it's like if that's your job.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Nikki Minaj put out the album. As a hip-hop fan, I would never listen to that album. I haven't listened to it. But I would listen to it in order to talk about it on the podcast. But the truth is, is it came out two weeks ago, three weeks ago. I don't know. so there's no purpose for me to listen to it I kind of there's like a small part of me that wants to see it but it's like the same reason why I kind of want to see the Barbie movie
Starting point is 01:23:35 so because I kind of just want to know what everybody else is talking about yeah with the Barbie movie it's not for me though yeah but I'm kind of interested but not not interested enough to listen to it right when it comes out I couldn't really with it like not even saying that because of you know and I'm going and blind on this car like the last Nicki Minaj album I listened to was I think that's Pink Friday. Yeah. Right? When I listen to it. It was actually. All of the hits, like, I'm talking
Starting point is 01:24:04 about like, like, all the colorful fucking videos and shit. That's Pink Friday, right? The, the, your love and all that shit. Yeah, that's Pink Friday. All right. So I would, and I only listen to it because I was locked up. Yeah. Like, so
Starting point is 01:24:20 and it's, am I, I'm attracted to Nikki, but like, I don't really don't care about what. comes out of her mouth. See, as a hip hop, as a hip hop head, I just listen to it one time through just. I don't think I'm a hip hop head. I don't even know if I listen to the old thing, but I think I listen to like six to eight songs on there.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I feel like I'm in a Gizu Club. I have a memory of listening to Queen on the treadmill in my old apartment in Hollywood. What's that an album? Yeah, and I remember thinking it was kind of trash. Pink Friday reloaded, I think was my last time. Queen. I remember listening to Queen.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Matter of fact, like 2011, she had a song with Egyptian. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The pink. That shit was big. Like, I like that song. She re-released all these albums at a certain point. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I don't know. It's certain people, like, and it's, now, I'm not saying that being biased or nothing. I'm just, I'll say that about my own shit. Yeah, like, I stopped listening to my sister shit for a little while. Like, if, because you got to think about it. The kind of music they're making, like, listen. I don't think of my shoes. I can't listen to 24 songs.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Listen, put yourself in my shoes when you, Cardi B. Hype Man, and she's talking about how, how mouth work. or how her shit is wet. You gotta do adlips on those songs. You get it? So, I know the music. Like, I know all my sister music. Like, I would never get caught out there on some,
Starting point is 01:25:39 she throw me and Mike and I'm gonna know the, like, I'm gonna know the whole rollout. Like, okay, so here's my question. When you were doing the whoops skit with Cardi B and J. Main. During that, like, how much of the stats, between offset and Cardi B. have you been privy to? And I say this, realizing that you probably
Starting point is 01:26:02 should not be honest with me in answering this. Nah, I could be honest. I'm sure you've seen little skirmishes, a little behind the scenes, drama. I'm sure you know about stuff you won't talk about. So you're asking me basically at this time when she signed the box, was there attention between him and her? Or was this something that just...
Starting point is 01:26:17 Nah, they was working on the album. I think it was his album or both. Okay. They was, nigger, she was smiling, chilling on the couch. happy he was happy the only thing was they are literally working on the album like I think it was his album
Starting point is 01:26:34 all saying Cardi B working on the album Yeah I don't know if she's doing a cut for his album or if they're both working on their albums I ain't get too deep into the conversation but we was in a session where an album was being finalized right either his or hers
Starting point is 01:26:50 I must assume it was his because his just came out but nigger they stopped the session and let us come with them like it wasn't no bad vibes like bro there's no coming around when they're going through something so you know anything about what happened between nah I honestly like I'm seeing shit on the internet just like y'all and to be honest I hit her up and she hasn't responded so I can't even literally like I can't even give you a what I think I feel I I would literally just say what I know but it's
Starting point is 01:27:29 interesting because like it felt like there was all bad blood when they were first kind of going out there or mostly coming from her she's dancing along saying my baby daddy she's like publicly saying we've been separated for a long time but then you see them on uh Instagram on Christmas together opening up presents with the kids expect them not to be it kind of felt like The bad blood was so intense that they might not be in that situation, but it was good to see that they could put. Let's be real. Right. No matter how bad me and my girl are going at it.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah. Like, are you really going to miss Christmas? Christmas with the kid. Yeah. The kid is going to bring you together in a lot of situations where you might not want to be. The kid is always going to bring you together. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:11 So whatever route they take, like I support they marriage a thousand percent. I bet Kim and Kanye haven't spent every Christmas together. But that's a whole different. It's a motherfucker who's out of his mind. Who knows what he's... Christmas is just another day to him, I'm pretty sure. But I'm saying like... I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't spend Christmas together, right?
Starting point is 01:28:32 Who? Kanye and Kim, right? It doesn't seem like they're on good terms like that. But if Cardi and Offset did, then that's a good sign that they're going to be able to co-parent well. One thing for sure, two things are certain whatever the fuck is going on over there, that part is never going to stop the parenting part. Like, them being friends and co-parenting, that's never going to stop.
Starting point is 01:28:52 that's a weird moment when me and my girl realize like even if we totally give up on being in a relationship we are fucking stuck doing a lot of shit together making decisions together financial decisions etc because of this little rug rat to the table with her yeah so it's like i like me bro like like i said bro i love my sister that's the bro i hope that everything is back cool and smooth for me like smash us on i don't know when does he even get in the room with a girl like that like how does that happen well she's kind of high brow these days no i know she not high value i'm not popping i ain't following she could turn his career up yeah right she could yeah he already used up all his passes of like cardi turning up his career
Starting point is 01:29:46 chris shahn right now i'm not going for that's a good look sure i'll say i could probably you crazy nah nah i ain't even gonna put that in the atmosphere that's impossible the shade room and spiritual word every fucking day if he starts dating christian now i don't think he would lower himself to that level i'm not so good for that i think like that's a dream that he's never gonna be ever like that's to me personally and there's no disrespect to christian right right she all right for me she's right bad She's all right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:23 She all right. Like, remember all the bitches in my hood look like that. Teave done, 100 chains. I doubt. What you got to understand is Cardi is from my hood. You see how she move around with 15 chains on and all the money and all that? Cardi is in the top 1% of attractiveness for girls from the Bronx, even without the surgery and all that shit, right? In the Bronx trying to look like her.
Starting point is 01:30:46 So that's all you're going to see on my block. I'm just saying, like, facial structure-wise, I feel like. like Cardi's got to be in the top 1% of bitches from the Bronx. What you mean like as far as being bad? Just pretty face. I think all the bitches in the Bronx be pretty. It just be like if they shit is together or none. She's top 1%.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Oh, you're saying like she's basically the baddest bitch in the Bronx. Look, she's the baddest bitch in the Bronx and then behind her is J-Lo. I'm just talking about the raw source material like what she looked like when she was 18 before she started really getting in the game and developed a person yeah that's what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah like she don't got no bad baby pictures the hottest chick is usually just the one who's gonna win right the one that just we're none of also the best looking guy never there's a lot of good looking guys doesn't really matter in their like future success unless they're good looking enough to become a model or some shit right yeah you just wop me with that one you got a big
Starting point is 01:31:43 hole in the side of your face and people think you look cool because of it you know cardi b had a fucking butt 50 nobody's gonna be looking at it like oh it's just they might though because remember you had she could turn it up from flavor of love you had danger she could make it cool yeah tattoo on her face people before people even thought that was cool oh yeah and we thought that she was edgy like yeah that bitch could get it you know right so but with krechanne though like i'm gonna be real with you like all the bitches with they shit together in my hood look like Chrison. Like all the bitches I hang with. Like, you gotta
Starting point is 01:32:17 remember the caliber of bitches I hang with. To be fair, I didn't think Chrisan was hot until she spent a couple years hanging with Blueface and for some reason just my mind changed about her. Oh, so you're saying like, you've seen them on Bad Girls Club? Yeah, I said she was right in front of my face and I didn't think twice about her. You ain't think she was going to be the one.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I never thought she was all that hot. And then all all of a sudden, over the years, my brain just kind of settled in with the idea that she's... I didn't even think about having sex with her until a sex tape leaked. Oh, yeah. Damn, I don't even think I haven't even think like, like that's what even put the thought in my head. Like, do I got to go on the dark web for that or like, how do I find the case?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Nah, that shit is on Twitter. All right, I'm going to look at it. It's definitely on Twitter. What was the vibe like? Because I regret not answering the phone because I could, I think. Yeah, I was going to take you. Yeah, I was going to take you. Yeah, I was going to go with you and J.man and Cardi B.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Yeah. I was trying to show off. Like, y'all niggas think y'all the only niggas that can pull. Y'all could do some shit. Let's go do some shit. So Cardi B and J.M. link up she signed a box of whoops yeah so when we get there it's cool everything's cool set like jane said it was it was literally it was awkwardly cool like because we as outsiders we know like
Starting point is 01:33:31 we're about to step into a room with some people that they great bro yeah so like every person we just like kind of like everything is so f***in amazing things to us like the building the gate the security the cars like in our head like we just like this is the fucking life right here you know what I'm saying so we get there I was a little like stunting so that's why he like also was like nigger come in because I didn't know he was going to be there and it wasn't no like issue with him being there but I usually just link up with her like it don't always be him and her so when I pulled up I was thinking thinking like oh maybe she's in one side and he's in the other side I ain't expect them to be in the same
Starting point is 01:34:17 booth like yeah you for me like if she in the studio he in the studio I'm thinking they both like kind of working I don't know if they they sit you know I wasn't around for a little minute so I ain't know but I was I seen him like oh shit I'm like I'm a way for bro to invite us in I'm not just gonna walk in there especially if I got jane with me you for me yeah then I got another chick with us that for me that drove so it's like I'm kind of already bringing too many people. So I don't want to, you know, I don't want to piss nobody off. I don't want to be the person, you know, you never want to be that person.
Starting point is 01:34:51 So we come in, we're a little nervous. So I can understand why J-Main felt like it was tension. It wasn't no real tension. You feel me, like, we're chilling, boom. Next thing you know, he spent out real quick. We do the video. We do the video. He comes back in.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Offset leave. Yeah, offset. Yeah, because he, he, he, he's, he's, Like, I don't know. It was like one of those, I'm going to give you a time with your brother. Like, like, go ahead. Kick it with your brother. Like, because when I pull up, I always kick it with him first.
Starting point is 01:35:23 You from me, like, out of respect. Like, this is his wife. It's not, you know what I'm saying? It's not just his girlfriend. You're not just dating. Like, for me and me and him had talks like this, like real men talk. As you say this, I realize that I've never had like a female friend. You could just end the sentence right there.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I've never had a female friend who had like a husband and I had to like kind of think about that dynamic because I just don't really kick it with girls like that. You gotta be careful but the girls like I said from my hood they like niggers. They way more loyal and trustworthy than niggas. You walk into the studio, you shake hands with all the dudes in there. Me? And just ignore the girls. Who me?
Starting point is 01:36:05 Yeah. When I like when I'm around them. Like I'm just trying to figure out if you're doing it because that's kind of how I am too. Straight to offset. And sometimes girls complain about that. If you walk in the studio, there's five dudes and there's 10 girls. And you walk up all five dudes, look them in the eyes, say, hey, hey, what's going on? Is Adam?
Starting point is 01:36:21 Real quick. And maybe I'll look at the girls and be like, how are y'all doing? Yeah. Because sometimes the girls get met because some of the girls will be a publicist or she's a manager. She's not a thoughty. Yeah. I've been there, done that, bro. I was on tour with Chris Brown.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I learned all the rules of the industry right there. Because then right there's two men. There's too many. Right there. These niggas got rules. What's the rules? Don't talk to the bitch. Nigger.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Don't talk. You got to, bro, they gave us stickers. This is the craziest shit ever, right? Stickers. You put them on the girls
Starting point is 01:36:52 that they can't. Free cast it over, bro. Yo, bro. I got to put an orange sticker on her arm. Free cashing over, bro, because I ain't going to lie. He brought me on that tour. Like, he was on the party tour with Chris Brown.
Starting point is 01:37:01 And he brought me like awesome. Yo, bro, if you could afford it, nigga, we out. Gangster. So, bro,
Starting point is 01:37:09 I learned every, rule. Nigger, they gave me my own stickers. And you got to go in the crowd, right? Like, while Brown is doing his opening, we, like, got backstage passes. And we're in charge of what girls could come backstage with us. But you got to put your sticker on the girl.
Starting point is 01:37:32 If you don't put a sticker on the girl, she's out for grabs. But I can put a sticker on a random girl on the crowd. And now Chris Brown. is not allowed to fuck her just because I put a sticker on her don't want to fuck none of these bitches honestly Chris wasn't I ain't see Chris indulge in no type of shit other than dancing smoking cigarettes playing football on the beach go bowling I ain't see like this is around the time I guess he was going through the whole shit he's trying to be a good guy yeah he wasn't yeah I
Starting point is 01:38:08 think Carucci was his girlfriend to be fair like Chris Brown should be models and shit he shouldn't be girls from the crowd at a show although there's probably a lot of hot ass girls in the crowd he did it though like those is literally for us like it was like so it's the entourage it was like remember you got whoever's with Chris Brown which is us so
Starting point is 01:38:26 Chris Brown can supersede any of the stickers if he wanted to yeah but he he already probably came with the fact that you all bad stickers is nuts bro I I got introduced to this world what if the girl gets a sticker and she don't want to have anything to do with you. She won't take the sticker. That's how crazy it is. She knows what the sticker means. You know what the stickers mean.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yo, bro, you got to believe me, bro. Listen, I'm not overwhooping right now. Bro, I was literally in the crowd. I would see a girl, right? And these girls see me walk in with Chris. Right? So now when Chris goes in his locker room, now we're in the crowd. It's other opening acts performing. We in the crowd looking for girls. Like, if the bitch gives you the eye contact like she like you you know who you with oh I'm with my sister oh there's only two y'all all right y'all with me we're going backstage so all they know and they had is oh i'm gonna meet Chris brown I'm with I'm with one of his friends or somebody that's gonna with Chris Brown yeah it's just crazy to be on tour and then also you're on like a psalty tour because
Starting point is 01:39:36 most of the rappers I've been around like when I used to be going all these pump shows or when I used to be all these juice world shows they just weren't like snatching girls out of the crowd and bringing them backstage juice or a relationship I don't know it's pump just wasn't really like concerned with that I don't think he would bring his own business already I was like 17 I don't think he had too much out of his system but he was just wasn't really focused on it I don't know it's just it's wild to me to imagine me being on tour with an artist where we also are like actively trying to all the girls from every show. You're playing with fire, bro. You're going to catch a case doing that shit. Easy.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Let me tell you something. Just hearing that is giving me anxiety. Let me tell you something, bro. You're done. Listen, that world, right? Like, look at the names that we talk about here. But they barely even know who you are.
Starting point is 01:40:29 We talk about Cardi B. We're talking about Chris Brown. We're talking about offset. These type of people, these are the type of people, these are the type of shows that I got to experience this particular tour though like I was on the tour nigger like I was in remo nigga it's got to really like numb your senses to just be in a different city every night every night you see a more horse all the keys nigger and Chris brown crib nigger they ain't
Starting point is 01:40:59 taking my phone you know when you go around certain celebrities you that's got to be faced down with your ID. They wasn't taking my phone. I was lit lit. I was in the, you know what I'm saying? And you want to know, I've been in environments backstage of shows and shit where every girl had her phone taken
Starting point is 01:41:17 besides my girl. My girl, the only girl who didn't get a phone taken because she's with me. So they're not even thinking that they can't trust her. You get it? That made her feel like ultimate alpha bitch. That's the real shit. All these other girls are just here for pussy. Mine's got a ring on her finger.
Starting point is 01:41:33 So she gets to keep her phone. she get to keep her phone that's like the ultimate big 22 that's like getting your degree from harvard yes in terms of levels of respect you get to keep your phone backstage at the little pump show you're a legend nigger i was just on tour with trippy red oh and i got to put keep my phone nigger yeah and this niggas strip damn near to the drawers every fucking show nigger there's like a legend of like the trippy red house you know in the like 2018, 2019 out here. I don't know what was going on, but a lot of
Starting point is 01:42:09 bitches were going to run through over there, I'm pretty sure. Nah, when I was just on throw with him, he had a chick with him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Mr. girlfriend, dude. Yeah, he's, she was like... The whole time I've known him, he always, man. I mean, I had chicks with me, too. Like, you know, it was...
Starting point is 01:42:24 It was that kind of thing. Like, he introduced Aleks to the world. And Coil-Lay. Really? When I met Coil-Leray, her soul reason that we were talking to her was because she was Trippy Red's girlfriend at the time. And we didn't even know she was Benzino's daughter
Starting point is 01:42:41 until after, which is crazy because to me, that was mind-blowing when I figured that out. Yeah, that was. Like, what the fuck Benzino has a fucking hot artist's daughter? Like, what? Yeah. Mm. Yep. So you got this chain on your neck that show what was going on.
Starting point is 01:42:58 How the fuck did you get that? You stole that from Frenchie? Nah, ain't still shit. He let you hold it while. Isn't he doing a bid? He had like a crazy home robbery or some shit, right? So yeah, let me break it down. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:10 So yes, the reason why I got the chain is Frenchy, right? He's the person. So that's French's old Britschuan Monopoly chain. No, this is Walker's old Brick Squad Monopoly chain, right? Yeah. Frenchie had his own and I don't know what happened, but free Frenchie, right? Basically, he stepped up on the management side. for me.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Right before he got locked up. Yeah. I talked to him like doing an interview before he got locked up. Yeah, and in the middle of that, you know what I'm saying? His grandmas had a party
Starting point is 01:43:47 and, you know, Waka, all everybody was there. Southside. Everybody was there. So when Frenchie gave me the chain, he ain't just like, he ain't just give it to me on something. Yeah, like you good,
Starting point is 01:44:01 nigga, you brick squad. Like, nigga, I had to talk to those niggas. I got to meet them, niggas and ask them, do they got a problem with me wearing this? Like flaka. Waka,
Starting point is 01:44:12 Wu, Southside. Yeah. Everybody who had a bird. Yeah. When they gave these out, over 10 years ago. This, when this is happening,
Starting point is 01:44:22 this is 2021? That's ill to have like a vintage chain. Yeah. And for me, it was really like, like, shit.
Starting point is 01:44:36 bro. Shout us to French. He wanted to give me an opportunity. You know, unfortunately, his case went the way it went, and we wasn't able to. How many years do you get? It's a lot. But, you know, by the grace is of God,
Starting point is 01:44:51 and if all the cards flow right, he going to get a pill and we could get a modern there. He thought he was robbing, like a drug house, right? And then it ended up being a regular person's house? Nah. Or some shit, I forget. Honestly, no, That's what they said that he did, but honestly, I don't think he did it.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Like, if you hang, if you hung with Frenchie, like, you ever met Frenchie? No. All right. If you hung with Frenchie, you know, like, Frenchie, he's not doing that shit. For me, like, that was. You just wonder, like, what the rappers get into after the limelight is kind of gone? Maybe robbing houses. You got to flock sometimes.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Bro, I'm going to keep it real with you. That nigga, like, he ain't have to rob no houses, bro. Like, yeah, niggas like me around him. Like, I ain't know. No little dog like I'm a height where I'm from like you for me like he and if he had multiple niggas like me around for me the rap shit like on some real life like real life shit like niggas don't need no help in real life niggas want more like I got in 30 40 all the change I took in my career bro I got 30 40 chains in my house.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Do I wear all of them? No. Some of that shit is outdated like this. It's just special to me because being young and looking up the walker musically, because that's what influenced me to do drill. Being locked up and listening to that shit. Hard in the paint and snakes in the grass and gun sound. Like, nigger, that's what I was listening to before I locked out myself to go to war with the bloods.
Starting point is 01:46:36 So they gave you that chain. Well, French, you gave that to you. French he gave it to me on some shit like, yo, listen, um, because I came to him with a proposal, like, yo, listen, like, what's up? We fuck with each other, like, well, let's do some, let's do some. Like, we always, we always been around each other.
Starting point is 01:46:52 But when he's giving it to you, is this like, all right, you're going to be the new brick squad. Yeah, you're going to be the face. Yes. Of what? Of the rebranding of BSM. All right, for sure. This is the conversation.
Starting point is 01:47:03 And but that's walk-a-flokers. Oh, chain specifically. Yeah, I got to feed our Frenchie hold it or, he left it with him. Frenchie and Frenchie gave it to me, but I pulled up with that shit on and made sure they seen me with it, and
Starting point is 01:47:17 I had a conversation with them. And asked them if they had a problem with me wearing it. So both of them said, no, no, you good. Southside, no, you good. Like, go up, nigga, like, bring son to the table. Does Walker even claim BSM anymore? He do.
Starting point is 01:47:34 But he's not really, like, rapping like that, does he? Like, he do, like, he's always going to claim BSM, but you got to know, like, just like 10-17, right? You see how I mean? G-Z don't claim C-T-E anymore, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:48 I think he claims that he's C-T-E now. I think that... You know what Clem? I think that's the dude you interview. Do your homework on clients. Some lights can do? No, dark-skinned, but he was running out on G-Z. But he basically like...
Starting point is 01:47:59 He's head of security and all that for a while. Okay. For like his whole career until like a couple years ago. All right. But, like, Waka, he's B.S. Like, if you go to his Instagram, you're going to see Waka, Flocka, BSM. Like, he's BSM. Oh, it still says it? Okay. Yes. But in your hat, it's kind of weird, too, though, because you're never going to
Starting point is 01:48:16 change your hat, you know? Yeah, they have newer chains and everything. Okay. Like, newer versions. You know like how Gucci had, like, 15 different 10, 7, 6th, breast quad chains. Like, Waka has the same shit. Like, so it's like, fucking five of us with these. It's another five niggas from Clayton County with, some other style. BSM change like you know BSM going live forever okay it's like it's more like a family you know what I'm saying this is 24
Starting point is 01:48:46 car ago it's like an anti-Gucci main family I think it's all yeah it's all the same family well we ever see Walker and Gucci patch it up I think so I think he patched up with a lot of people but that's one of the people who are so positive that it's possible we got to see Gucci patch it up
Starting point is 01:49:01 with Yogadi too I don't know I met Gucci one time in onyx in Philly but I don't know Gucci but I met Waka I had a real level-headed conversation with him and that nigga he's not hard to talk to
Starting point is 01:49:19 like that nigga is really awesome for sure Gucci is the asshole in terms of that like Gucci is the guy who's like more likely to be like not him probably I just wonder if Gucci would ever let that go at some point the new Gucci though right but the new Gucci still has not made peace with Yogi
Starting point is 01:49:34 Waka Flaqa but there's reasons with the patch it up with ti but the yogadi shit is a little deeper because your godis is with kisha kior before he was so that's a little strange you hit different when there's overlap with the ladies nah see and that be the roots a lot of problems you know that right and the the goddy beef was very public on twitter when Gucci was having his little meltdown in like 2013 2014 whatever it was you know it was crazy i ain't even know that them niggas had beef oh they went and i get a no jump of water please uh yeah You grab my water.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Yo, bro, I ain't even know that. And I'm a real Gucci fan. Like, like, I love Gucci. Like, I love Waka. Like, that was the same time period when he said that, uh, him and who, him and Walker, Nikki Minnush. They might have.
Starting point is 01:50:24 They might have. You got to think about who. He later on said that that wasn't true, I believe. But look, and he was just tripping. But look, you got to think about who Waka flaka is at this time. Who Gucci man is at this time. But this one, Walker was just kind of getting on. But she's like a nobody at that point.
Starting point is 01:50:37 She's just getting on at that time. time so you don't think not one of them niggas hit it I don't think somebody probably somebody I do a fuck there we don't but wasn't she with Safari at the time she was what but the only thing is she said she never smashed Wayne or Drake so I'm like she ain't smashed Wayne or Drake those niggas is different niggas that's a level of stoicism that I just normally would not expect of any female rapper bro you've got the crossroads Wayne and Drake and you say neither I'm going with Safari real bitch I didn't see where he was going right there.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Yo, bro, look. So look, right? Shout out to the barbs. I just think that she, like, niggas she could control. Apparently. That's what I think. Because she had me kissing feet
Starting point is 01:51:24 and wearing purses and all types of shit. Once you enter the Nikki Vortex, you are not getting out unscathed. I don't know. But those niggas look like they're doing all of them. That's true. All of them. Oh, my boy Zip with the Drit.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Where y'all shit come from, man? Me? I see him on live. So Zip with the Drit was on live. He was going off on you. And he, one of the things he said, he said, you ain't ever did shit to the nigga that cut you in your face. I seen him say that shit.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And he had a lot of shit to say about you, really. Where that's going from? Y'all was cool up for you. I thought. Yo, I'm going to be real with you, right? And I'm not even being on no cocky shit. Because I'm regular for me. Like, I'm regular.
Starting point is 01:52:07 I don't even be. I ain't in the race with niggas no more But Zip falls in the category of niggers that Like you said, I used to be amongst, right? So He's on the opposite Like he's blooded
Starting point is 01:52:26 He's supposed to say that This is what they do Like the first nigger, right? Gia Connor, you remember him? The guy that was on Vlad TV? Gia Connor? Yeah, who was he? He's the guy who first in Lod
Starting point is 01:52:39 and said he cut me in jail Oh really? He has a voice. blad clip or he said that i don't know if he has a vlad clip saying that but i could show you him on the internet saying that okay right yeah but he did a couple of interviews with that i don't know how i still don't know how is that the nigger that cuts you or no no right so what blood what and it's not all bloods no disrespect to the ones i f*** but like what the blood niggas do is like they take credit for like with another than a blood nigger did so zip he's just a blood nigger that he's
Starting point is 01:53:11 like an opportunity at coming at me on the internet like when niggas see me sitting right here we got reactions from 10 90 Jake we got reactions from Zip with the drip Bezoo Bezoo we got reactions from everybody like I went from nobody talking about me at all for nothing because I just came to support my man niggas is like look the little nigger Prine right? he paid me $6.50 for a shoutout of a picture of him in 50 Son. I birthed you. Why you come up and act like,
Starting point is 01:53:54 oh, I don't think he knew he was helping me. What the fuck am I doing if I'm posting you on my page that's verified in 2017? That's 170,000 followers. Yeah. This is when you could post a picture and your phone won't stop for the first 20 minutes, nigga when this shit was real remember that right Adam I never had the notifications on but yeah for me this is when you get a shout out from your man
Starting point is 01:54:21 and you really get followers yeah these days nigga I turned you up you were just a nigga reaching on the internet I turned you up now in turn for me turning you up you introduced me to another world of celebrity boxing right because he did so who you're talking about Supreme song which is yeah p too right yeah the little nigger i came up and act like he ain't know me then you was like what you mean you don't know poe he like well i do know him
Starting point is 01:54:50 we used to be cool because of me all that shit acra the problem is right i chased his man and that's on the internet chased him around the nigger from don diva fade back he was talking hot i chased him i'm running down no niggas in real life this why you don't see no music from me or because I got so caught up in the internet and niggas playing with me i start going outside looking for niggas and when i'm bumping into these niggas they like yo you bugging bro we whoopin that wasn't the lingo back then but you know the lingo now like bro we just he's just doing this for the internet like we ain't really on that with you bro you bugging out made me feel bad about running down you know bro's with my baby mom's bro how i'm supposed to know that nigga
Starting point is 01:55:35 Like, I don't know who you're in a car with, nigga. Like, nigga, I'm on you. Nigel, you were just talking hot on Queens Flip. You were just talking hot on fucking Dawn Deva. You in magazines talking about no glorifying rats. But me and you, we're good in real life. And our fathers is cool in real life. So Alpaw and Supreme was cool?
Starting point is 01:55:56 No. This is the nigger Prime was affiliated with. Remember he said we had a mutual friend? Yeah. Like, this is the mutual friend. Me and that nigger, family. is close. P2 is a nigger who seeked the opportunity,
Starting point is 01:56:10 right? I'm cool with this nigger, so let me hit this nigger see if I could Yo, what up, bro? He caught me at a time where I felt like showing love. Yo, bro, listen, this is 50 cent son, bro. You're going to have to give me some money
Starting point is 01:56:25 because I might lose my Instagram posting this shit. This is 50 son and him on a picture together saying, damn, don't they look like? Like insinuate and preem is 50's father, basically, in so many ways, right? This is what he was paying me to do because I know the power of 50 cent. So I'm like, if I'm going to put my name on this, nigga, you're going to have to give me some money.
Starting point is 01:56:52 He paid me and worked for him. That's why you know him now because of that day. So I don't understand the energy that comes from certain niggas, the reactions of just you having me up here. How many niggas, keep it a buck. I mean niggas slitting your DM. Why the fuck you interviewed that nigga? Yeah, a lot of niggas definitely had a lot of shit to say about... A little bit.
Starting point is 01:57:14 And you ain't ask yourself why? I mean... I mean, you slamming a big numbers. People are interested. Okay, but niggas wasn't saying it on some... Why you... Like, he's irrelevant. No, they're saying like...
Starting point is 01:57:28 Like, I'm an op. Like, I'm a cap. Like, I'm... Whatever the fuck they said. They say I'm not Alpo son. Like... That's... That's, all right, so there's, Apple, he has another son named Gumby?
Starting point is 01:57:40 Yes. So that's like your stepbrother or that would be? My brother, yeah. That's your brother, all right? You know him? Yes. You ever see, I can show you interviews of us together. Because he's on record saying that you're not really Apple's son.
Starting point is 01:57:52 And that's after the alleged shooting incident, right? No, I don't know. I don't know about. When Paul was alive, you ever heard somebody say that? So you're saying after Paul got killed, that's when Gumby started saying that? Yes. After the newspaper, all that? article that lied and said, I said, I'm scared for my life.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Do I look like I'm scared? I was by myself, right? Like. So what's your and Gumby's relationship was like? Me and Gumby relationship since 05 as kids, we was great. I got out of jail. We were still great. I see him like every other day.
Starting point is 01:58:30 When my pops gets out now, they pull up on me. We all start kicking it. my guess like you your son I mean me my father my brother and my aunt rest in peace yeah like all of us together same car selfies I yeah happy on blocks running down on niggas like my aunt was fucking with a nigger in the Bronx and he was disrespecting her and me and my father and Gumbi went to that nigger block and spoke to that nigger and told him that you're not you know way you're doing this to my aunt It's no what you come on.
Starting point is 01:59:09 This is, this is the, this is me, him, and him. Like, you ain't got no wins, my man, move, right. So how you feel about niggas who would say, you know, you consider yourself a street nigga, but you, even though that's your father, your father, you know what I'm saying, he allegedly snitch on somebody,
Starting point is 01:59:25 but you embracing them. My whole thing is, and I'm going to be completely honest with you, gang. Growing up, not having a father, and then getting a with, of having a father i liked having a father more bro i'm gonna just be real with you the whole time i was yeah that this i i f***ed the older niggas i didn't have a father clearly right when i got a whiff
Starting point is 01:59:50 of having a father bro i i i take that you heard so what them niggas got to say them niggas got to say bro like i'll take that bro i rather live with a father than not have a father So how long, damn, I mean, that's deep. That's crazy for you to say that. Yeah, like, what the fuck? So how long did y'all get to really connect for before he was murdered? From 2016 until. So y'all was actually locked in?
Starting point is 02:00:19 Yes. Everybody knows that. Yeah. But how did knowing that he told, how did that affect the way that you viewed? What the fuck that got to do with me, bro? That shit don't got nothing to do with me, bro. But there's a lot of people that you wouldn't fuck with because they did that exact thing, right? You know what else I don't do no more?
Starting point is 02:00:34 I don't sell drugs no more. I don't blame you for. for wanting a relationship with your father over that. It's just the question of like, does that change how you view it? It changed when I decided to be a rapper. I was not a street nigger no more. I dealt with managers that was gay or fucking snitches or whatever. Everybody does.
Starting point is 02:00:52 You don't know a nigga background, bro. One of your fucking good pals could see this interview and be like, I want to give that kid $10 million to keep doing this. Every week on your fucking show, Adam, I love this guy, right? And I don't know his fucking background. You think, like, in the real world, niggas don't give a fuck about that. And speaking from a child,
Starting point is 02:01:15 growing up without a father, and then me and my pops, asking him all the tough questions that everybody wants to know. Why did you snitch? How, who, I went through that whole fan shit. You did your own Vlad interview with him? I did my own Vlad interview and then called Vlad.
Starting point is 02:01:31 And told him? Yeah. Yo, Vlad. Ask him. Ask him how many times I called them And try to You set up an interview with them to Oh, you tried?
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah But he wasn't trying to do it I know Vlad was trying to do it But my father wasn't trying to do it Like at that time And then like by the time My father was ready Vlad kind of was like
Starting point is 02:01:51 Really? I don't really care too much about it no more Really? I feel like Vlad that would be a prize man Asked himself. He know me? I'll mention it to him But you know me?
Starting point is 02:01:59 That would have been a huge one for Vlad I think. I was trying to make it happen That's what I do bro, I come around and I like that niggas want to help me. The fact that y'all niggas want me back here, right? Y'all could have told me, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 02:02:11 we're going to schedule you and never fucking schedule me. Like, keep you the buck. I know y'all niggas schedule is so crazy. Y'all don't have to fit me in here. You have to fill you in? You want to know why? Why? Because you're paparazzi pup.
Starting point is 02:02:22 That's what I'm saying. That's a nerd war. Right? Right. That's great. And I appreciate the compliment, but I also know on the humble side of things that who could be fucking.
Starting point is 02:02:33 interviewing anybody right now. No, you, right? Hey, the fact that you're a good talking. A lot of people out there, a lot of the best, most coveted interviews you could ever get are people who suck on camera and won't talk about shit because they're so
Starting point is 02:02:47 politically invested in having a safe, clean image. Ain't no such thing as that no more. Well, I guess back in the days that matter. You're like an actor and actress, it's such a big deal if you get in any kind of controversy, whatever, so it's like they just, they act totally different. Never mind if you're like a big time CEO and manager.
Starting point is 02:03:05 I think Kevin Hart does what he wants. So you said you asked your dad all the hard questions. Yeah, I asked him all the questions. Kevin Hart keeps it safe. Yeah. Let's just make that clear. He keeps it safe as Dave Chappelle is an example of somebody who kind of pushes at the
Starting point is 02:03:21 limits and says a bunch of edgy shit. But I also feel like Dave Chappelle could be 10 times funnier and more offensive if he really went in on that trans shit. Yeah. The shit he says about trans shit, it might be considered controversial, but imagine if you were to have a conversation about trans people with Dave Chappelle off camera and a bar 10 drinks in. The shit that he would say to you about fucking trans people will probably be a thousand times more offensive. Let's be real. That's true.
Starting point is 02:03:49 That's true. And it might be a thousand times more funnier. Oh, it would be you have you on the floor. You'd be rolling around on the floor. Thinking about how you're not going to be able to tell anybody about these jokes he's making because it's so over the time. Yeah. But, bro, I asked him all the questions. So you asked him why he killed Rich Porter?
Starting point is 02:04:05 Yes. Yes. One of my first questions. What he said? Because that's the beef. Like, everybody that never met Rich Porter is Rich Porter gang. Yeah. So, nigga, I'm Alpo gang.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Nigger, what's the-and-law? I'm actually related to the nigger. Y'all don't even know this, nigga, Rich. I wasn't even alive. The kind of niggas that is mad at me because I'm Alpo's son is, niggas that never knew rich porter never seen them he never gave him a dollar nothing he never shook his hand he didn't buy him ice cream nothing they don't know rich porter he's a myth he's only known as a nigger that was killed by my father bro what it was a bigger story than rich porter
Starting point is 02:04:50 alpo is a way bigger story than rich porter rich porter is just a part of the story you understand and there's no disrespect to his family but he told me that that nigga was stealing from me I believed him because I've been in situations with him over money where he was ready to get like that with me nigger so I and who you think he ain't gonna do it says man nigger we didn't already went down that line where it was nigger you know where I'm mad Amsterdam pull up like you mad nigga what the you mad at me I'm mad at you because you cost me a 120,000,
Starting point is 02:05:30 nigger with this boxing match. You talk about, you want to talk tough to me, nigga? You just cost me 120,000? Fuck you. I went through that
Starting point is 02:05:40 with him. Like that nigga wasn't going to spare me, dog? Like, what's wrong with these niggas? Some niggas don't play about that.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Some niggas, you can't play with their money. Some niggas you can't play with their girl. Some niggas you can't play with their sister. It's different types
Starting point is 02:05:58 and niggas. That's a good example of a scenario in which the most obvious answer to the question is the real answer. Yes. Where it's like people get killed all the time over bitches and money. Yes. And it's not the most
Starting point is 02:06:14 glamorous or interesting from like a storytelling perspective. It's kind of a boring answer, but you know. Yo, bro, I had I was looking for a deep down secret answer. Like I thought he was gonna get me the scope right nigger was so regular like he should have never lied to me
Starting point is 02:06:37 a question i wish you would have the time to ask him so j z has a line where he uh is i told him about that apple bought his bricks here yeah what the f f was that so jz was selling bricks to apple i mean that's what the line is i'm gonna be real with you like jay is like i don't think he was playing like that like I think maybe who he was getting his work from might but then you got also look at the fact that my pops a pipeline was DC so it's like you think he was coming to Brooklyn to get his work so you told you that about that line though right yeah I told him you need to sue that nigga I sent him the song I sent him when he said it the time I'm like yo bro you need to start fucking monetizing of your name and he's like nigger I can't
Starting point is 02:07:31 under the federal guidelines. I can't make no money off the name Alpo. Really? Federal guidelines are away. He couldn't like start a podcast or some shit either? He can't earn off that name. Couldn't write a book. His name, Albert, Alpo Martinez.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Really? He could not earn from that name. That's crazy. That was a part of his. I was saying me the book. I don't know. Listen, I don't know. But he put it like,
Starting point is 02:07:58 he ain't own that name no more. So, yeah it would have been a great no jumper interview yeah it would have been a great vlad interview right but if he wanted to really like do something serious about his life it would have been like a paid and full it couldn't be his name and like i don't know bro from what i understood was that he is not allowed to make money off the name out so what was the the the emotional journey that you went through it was like he gets killed everybody assumes
Starting point is 02:08:32 he got killed because he was telling but then it actually comes out that it's a way more boring answer and that it was about a girl or some shit right because at first I'm sure you were thinking the same thing that a lot of other people were saying right that he got killed because of some old shit no you didn't assume that I don't know because I was just like
Starting point is 02:08:51 just talking to him like nigger like my birthday is November 2nd this Halloween I was always trying to get money out that nigga oh yo it's veterans day send me nigga I got a father now I'm gonna try you every time you talk to me about money I'm gonna try you nigga I need help you know I'm saying because if he needed it I would have gave it to him it was not no one way thing but me living this fucking kid got a daddy now shit and my pops is that
Starting point is 02:09:25 nigger no let me owe 5,000 nigger So your dad came out making money. That nigger is money, bro. Like, everywhere in the world there's a Remo and Adam that's going to help a nigga just because they fucking want to. Or because the niggas just been so good to them
Starting point is 02:09:46 and now they finally got something to offer them and they hit them back and, yo, come with me on this. I see y'all do it all the time. Y'all still throw bones to niggas that don't work for you. y'all no more y'all only even got a mention these niggas bro and in my twisted mind it's all staged right a lot of people think that in my twisted mind i'm thinking like nigger you own ol' all them fucking podcasts but people always assume that like people always like when trippy and six and i were beefing everybody was like oh my god like this is it's got to be fake because they're
Starting point is 02:10:21 signed to the same label i just was hearing people say that about uh finesse two times but kodak and they bookie was both on Atlantic exactly but like they had a real conflict but that people always will assume that it was just like staged or presented by the label when it's not a very small percentage of the time that it's it when it comes to like me being a fan on the outside looking in like the kind of niggas that you mix with is niggas that don't play around you heard like before they became stars and shit like chief keeping them shit like that mm-hmm Couple of people that you have as friends, these niggas are serious, Wack 100, you know? They serious business.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Tay Savage. John Wick. John Wick. Right? It's a lot of niggas that if you had a problem would probably assist you, even though you might not want that. I'm not going to recruit Tay Savage to catch a body for me. You don't got to recruit him to catch a body because. He might just do it without me asking.
Starting point is 02:11:20 The killer, the killer ain't going to kill you no more once you got John Wick with you. That's the thing. When you're looking at J-Main and his friends, these is young Udars, and then you got his cousin and them, they all shooters too. And it takes a John Wick to stop the incident. You think J-Man got a body? Yeah, probably. Probably.
Starting point is 02:11:49 He probably do. I'm going to be real, because when I met, you got to understand, when I met J-Main, J-Main was the first one to put a gun in my hand with a bean. For real. Yeah, I was, when I'm flexing on Facebook in 2013 and Shirek with the beam, so J-Mane acting sheepish and putting all this blame on Tays Savage and acting like he's John Wick, he's the most worst bully in the history of Chicago. He might be kind of trying to take a little bit of the spotlight over his own deeds.
Starting point is 02:12:19 I think that that's his way of doing things. Like I think that's his way of ironing things out with people who, we had issues with like this what I got to offer let's do this we could keep doing this I'm always gonna have this he's y'all niggas want to do this but this is what I feel like we should do and it's certain niggas that's going for it and there's certain niggas that's not but majority is going for it because you got to think of where it started with John Wick the nigger who tells the niggas niggas what to do
Starting point is 02:12:57 Not that nigger. The nigger who tell the niggers what to do. What's going on between Tate Savage and little, Dirk? We're trying to figure it out. I think it's just like they got the same power, but Tate is him in the streets, and Dirk is him with the money. I think, like, Dirk,
Starting point is 02:13:16 I think Dirk is Tate Savage. I feel like Tate deserved Dirk spot. And Dirk... We need you to bring the BDs together. I don't think. I could bring them together, but I would advocate for it. Like, I would definitely, like, partner up with you, if I could in a way to assist you with talking to certain people. Like, I spoke with 600 Breezy.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Like. Great guy. Yeah, he'd be with my niggas in the hood. I'd be with, you know, I used to be with Billy and them. But we came to a, when we see each other, we fight one-on-one. Everything is cool. You've known King Yellow for a long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:57 recently 1090 Jake made this video about him tragic he's been running around doing video responses ever since so you asking me how I feel about it I did a 600 Breezy interview like two three weeks ago and the clips are still dropping and she hasn't dropped the clip where he talks about King Yeller yet and literally he found out about this 1090 Jake narrative about King
Starting point is 02:14:21 King Yeller no we found out about it literally like five minutes after we finished the podcast so The clip of him talking about the encounter in the mall and everything is still great. It's still hilarious to him talk about it, but it's lacking the context of what has happened since then. Such is the life of a clipper. I was around for that. Oh, you were in Vegas?
Starting point is 02:14:41 Yes. Yeah. I'm going to ask Laura when that clip comes up. How is Laura? You never get to see. How do you feel about the King Yellow situation? Ken Yeller. How's your boy?
Starting point is 02:14:54 Team King Yeller is a rat, bro. Like, not a. rat because we're gonna we're gonna like jane said we're gonna stop confusing the fans right it's a difference between the tattoo tell and a rat the rat is the nigger who steps on his man head to get out of jail early right which when they both supposed to go to jail together can't put that on yellow that's not i can't say he did that yet but he's he's it's kind of like the butter situation right like we've seen the Italian beef and Pepsi, but we never
Starting point is 02:15:29 seen a statement, right? We got interviews with Little Jay saying this, and we got interviews with him saying that, right? Then we got him saying he's not an informant, he's not on the old block case, he's not taking a stand, and then we're watching this stuff actually
Starting point is 02:15:45 come to life in front of our face. So we don't know what's coming next for yellow. Personally, according to the documents provided and the audio response, because if you look at his live, I was in his comments, putting cheese.
Starting point is 02:16:05 Like, you was talking too much, bro. You know, like, I know that the Fed's been investigating y'all niggas probably just as long as they've been investigating us. We all gang members, right? When we first come around each other, 2013, 2014, 2015, we're just a bunch of niggas with Instagrams making good songs and maybe some people paying us $500 for a feature, right? We ain't no big-time stars yet.
Starting point is 02:16:29 We all gang members. We know the rules, right? Okay, if I'm in an interrogation for a gun, I know that I have the right to remain silent as a gang member. Why do you agree to talk under any circumstances unless you're claiming self-defense, right? He said that only way you talk is if you claim yourself defense. I think he just needed something to talk to.
Starting point is 02:17:01 So with the gun situation, he said the gun was registered to his baby moms. Told on her. So he was saying, I mean, he said it's illegal gun. So of course he's going to say that. And as far as snitching, like, all he technically told was like they said ask him if bro. You're supposed to let them find out who gun that is, bro. You ain't supposed to assist him in no type of way, bro.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Like, what the f-like, what are we talking about? I'm a gang member. You see me? Tattoo, scars, bullet holes. I, nigger, no, ain't no to-no talking. Nothing. Nothing, bro. Nothing. I don't care what, under what circumstances. If I get caught with a gun that belong to my baby moms, they're going to figure that out. When they run ballistics, when they run the serial numbers, they're going to figure that out.
Starting point is 02:17:47 I don't got to tell them. That's me telling you. I'm trying to get out. Let me help you. This gun. belongs to her, it's legal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The next question is, so why did you hide it? Conceal and carry, you know what that means? It's like, so you're in a state where you're allowed to carry a gun
Starting point is 02:18:12 as long as they can see it. Why did you hide it? That's the next question coming from the cop. If this is a legal gun, why did you hide it? There you go. So don't talk at all, because they're going to keep getting you to talk. No matter how you think you want to minimize it Or I thought I was running game on them
Starting point is 02:18:37 Or ain't no swindling the police, nigga You're gonna get swindled Because they know how to get answers out of you Asking you different questions So you feel like that what he said too much He said a lot, bro. He confirmed gang members He confirmed, he trenches news did the same thing He from O'block, he the leader, he's the shooter, he's the rapper,
Starting point is 02:19:01 He the nigger with the money. That's the same shit, Trent's News did. That's the same shit. He took the stand and he got paid. All right. You know what happened? Breezy never got locked up for that altercation at the mall. So why did the Las Vegas police know about that to even question Yela?
Starting point is 02:19:18 Because it's on the internet. The fuck out of here. Los Vegas. Los Vegas police is on YouTube? It was a world star with millions of views. You know what King Yeller said as soon as he got in there? Did you read it? I'm a rapper.
Starting point is 02:19:33 My name King Yeller. Oh, sir. I'm a rap. My name, Keenella. Yeah, they went right in the car, looked it up, and they got everything. He ain't saying his name was Simone Lewis.
Starting point is 02:19:47 That's a very, every response is a bad response. I mean, he's probably trying to leverage him being a rapper to go with the police a little easier. No. He's thinking like, maybe if I'm friendly enough to these cops, then they won't with me too bad.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Listen, bro. I'm not saying it's the best logic, but I think that's what he thought. Listen, bro. Listen, bro. Listen, bro. If you speak to them niggas or you think it's all right to speak to them niggas,
Starting point is 02:20:12 you shouldn't be advocating for who's a rat and who's not a rat. Like, it's levels to this shit, Rimo. 1090 Jake, the only reason why we're on his back because he's the nigger who exposes niggers. So we shouldn't even see fake paperwork from you, my man. What we don't want? We don't want a false profit, right? This is what everybody don't want.
Starting point is 02:20:36 No matter what color, race, religion, everybody doesn't want a false profit. Everybody frowns upon a false profit. I don't know if people really thought King Yellow was a prophet. Listen, I'm talking about 1090 Jake, nigga. Mr. I'm going to expose you now. The stuff that 90 Jake is accused of is like so minor compared to like everything he's exposed about other people.
Starting point is 02:20:58 It's not minor when I see a paper. where you're implicating somebody else in a crime. I don't care if they seen it. You're talking about the grievance? Yeah, he kept saying, oh, they seen it. Oh, it happened in front of them. No. Then he said, oh, well, this person already copped out to it.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Like, which one is it? First, they was there. They seen it. Then I asked them, the officer on duty ain't the same officer who interviews you at a hearing. So what you mean, the officer seen it? This is a new officer. If you're the arresting officer and you lock me up for a gun.
Starting point is 02:21:38 When I come in a precinct, they're going to put me in another room with detectives and I'm going to meet Adam. The arresting officer is not the one who interrogates you, bro. And no crime. You have a name? I ever got locked up? The officer that put the cuffs on you, nigger, unless you are a murderer, unless you O.J. Simpson or you fucking somebody big where the cop wants to be seen. with you for the press that's the only way you're going to get the
Starting point is 02:22:09 same officer but bro we see these niggas arrest on video we see the grievances getting put out you know I was locked up nigger I know what our grievances a grievance is me complaining to the officers that I'm being mistreated to a certain to a certain degree
Starting point is 02:22:27 that's all the grievance was for it was to tell on an officer up. Niggas watching this right now. They're going to say, all right. They've never been to jail as many years as me. But they're going to say, how are you going to get mad at Yella or 1090J for anybody else? I'm mad at them. I'm mad that they thought it was okay to diss me in some type of way when you got that type of shit on their name.
Starting point is 02:22:50 What did 1090 Jake say? He said that you're the son of the biggest rat in the world's son, right? Now, look at him. He's the rat now. Look, King Yella, the famous rats. This is my father on the song and all that, but call itself my friend. now he's the famous rat of course I'm gonna troll them
Starting point is 02:23:07 what the y'all well you and him don't determine what ratin is to me brother I think you're just trying to take a strong white man down because you're threatened by how much of a lane is a white boy too that's two white boys right he's yellow but you know 1090 Jake anyway
Starting point is 02:23:22 no 1090 Jake he's my witness 1090 Jake reacted to my interview in a disrespectful manner oh okay and that's what started me and his few Like it was I didn't I was happy that he acknowledged me But he was like he patched up whack one hundred and ten ninety Jake So anything's possible
Starting point is 02:23:41 I feel like I ain't really going too much too hard on it. I'm be real like They interviewed me about it. It's like in four interviews That I did when I was just in New York But they asked me shit about it and like I know they mark it marketing it like that's what what the topic was, but they, none of them, if you notice, none of the full interviews
Starting point is 02:24:06 for either interview I did ever came out. Like, they just like, oh, trying to be smart. Like, oh, this is trending right now. Let me clip that part. Put that out, you know? But I don't really care too much about Tanini, Jake. Like, he cool. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Yo, you know what I'd be doing now, bro? I'd be stuck in the, f***ing Metaverse. Like with the actual... What? Yeah, like... Doing what? I want to want to be. You're the only person I ever heard say that they are actually stuck in the metaverse especially in this day and age
Starting point is 02:24:38 What are you doing in the metaverse? Stuck GTA doesn't count I mean that's the meta bird you could just say I got a whole I'm playing GTA Who that we have real community like and you hang out together like what do you all the game every day What do you do we back bitches we take them shopping We can spin on other crews that think they better than us like You know, like. I've seen C. Blue doing like a drive bob on one of the Sugar Hill kids or something.
Starting point is 02:25:08 Oh, that's funny. I forget who it was. But they're like in the game. I like C. Blue. There's a clip with like millions of views talking about it. If I'm remembering correctly, I can't remember, man. I interviewed somebody.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Probably because he's the only one that's really like heavy like with the gaming and streaming shit, you know. Oh, yeah. Adam on GTA next year. Yeah, I'm thinking. I'm trying to stop playing poker and transition into GTA. See, look. Wait, what's poker? That's not blackjack, right?
Starting point is 02:25:33 No. All right. Look, this is the craziest part. Remember you asked me, what the fuck am I doing? Right? I'm fucking playing blackjack. Me and my friends is going to the casino. On GTA playing?
Starting point is 02:25:45 Yes. And we're playing blackjack. For fake money? It's not fake money. Well, it's GTA money? Yeah, it's coins. GTA bucks? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:54 Like, nigga, I got over a hundred million right now. You know you could go play blackjack for real money too, right? Yeah, but I wanted to learn first. by losing the fake money. That's not how you're going to learn. You're going to learn by downloading like a course or like watching a YouTube video about the actual probabilities of the hands
Starting point is 02:26:09 and when to hit and when to split and all that bullshit. But then it takes the fun out of it, man. I know, but if you're trying to be, hey, spoiler, even if you get really, really good at Blackjack, you're still losing every single hand you play. And you get good in the long run. You can get good, meaning you can minimize the edge that the casino has on you.
Starting point is 02:26:28 Listen. But it's still going to be like a 50.5% edge. He's holding your mind. No. In the short term, it's all in your mind. In the short term, you can go have a winning session. In the long term, you're losing money. Look, poker, however, you're playing against other players,
Starting point is 02:26:44 but you're paying rake on each pot to the house, meaning that the person who plays the best strategy and is able to make the best reads and deductions of what's going on, that player can be profitable in the long term. That being said, it's very hard to be good enough to beat the house. the percentage you paid to the house I went from losing every night Like I'm talking about I lost millions of dollars
Starting point is 02:27:08 On GTA though Betting $50 every hand Because I'm competing with other niggas with money From Brooklyn or wherever they're from And we all what? 50, 50 everybody spending money Right Imagine once you start playing for real money
Starting point is 02:27:23 How much fun they'll have it Bro, I'm gonna have so much fun But nobody want to go with me to the casino, bro I literally learned how to play black Jack on Gt. You gotta go to Atlantic City or some shit? Yeah, or it's the shit in Yonkers, it's shit in Queens. But it's like, the local shit is like, it's like everything else, you know?
Starting point is 02:27:44 How do you really get to have fun? You gotta look over your shoulder and all this bullshit. No, I feel like New York is so grimy that like the strip club shit doesn't seem as fun either. Nigger New York is the, New York City is like Rikers Island, bro. Why, is just that grimy now? Being out of town is like being upstate in prison. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:04 That's what, that's mine. Like, that's the best way I could put it to you. Like, Rikers Island is like high school and fucking prison is like college. What's your relationship with Star Brum? Because like Star B, somebody I used to see like, she like Cardi B. big homie or some shit. Or Lisa, it looks like it was. Nah, she definitely not Cardi B big homie. Yeah, that's, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:29 That's almost impoverimely. possible but I could see where people would paint that narrative but they're not they they they sisters like and like that's my sister too like you know go through shit whatever we went through some shit but that's my sister she good yeah where you know her from the like just hanging out same shit outside gang banging meeting people rubbing shoulders getting locked up see her on the visit floor yo what up sis you knew her or cardie first uh probably starbrum first. Oh, word.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Yeah. Yeah. Starbroom first. What's your beef with Shaiy K? The juggie man? Yeah. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:29:13 Like I said, that's all A. Boogie little men's. Yeah. That's all the same shit. Like, you see their first video they ever blew up, Be loved, and Shai K is called,
Starting point is 02:29:24 Get Off My Dick. I'm on FaceTime with them in the video. Right? Come on, man. I got you all your first million views, man. Give me some credit. You're going to look at the video. You're going to see me on FaceTime with them.
Starting point is 02:29:37 Like, they came out with this and me. So it's like when people be saying like, oh, oh, is irrelevant to whatever? It's like, how am I relevant when the artist that's running this shit right now, they had to come through me. You feel like you get the credit you deserve? In the streets, yeah, but like not, like, I don't know. like I said I idolized niggas like Puff like Birdman like Cam Jim like you know like Gucci like like niggas that came out as artists and built entities so I still don't feel like I'm doing I ain't doing nothing yet like I got to break a artist or you know like that's really what I want
Starting point is 02:30:21 to do like I want to break an artist and just make sure they don't make them same mistakes I was making you know what I'm saying teach them the difference between what's really what what, what's marketing, what's serious. You know what I'm saying? You work on any artists right now? I got any artist signed to you or? Right now, I don't got nobody signed to me, but, like, it's certain artists,
Starting point is 02:30:41 like, Maya V, Tuzdo, like, fucking lefty G's, like, it's certain artists that I got my hands on their career, a little something, something, and I want to do something for them, but timing is everything. Okay, but I was having a conversation the other day with Rainwater.
Starting point is 02:31:00 And it really stuck with me that he said, think about it. The only scenes in America, the only states, the only cities that are considered to be popping are the cities where people are getting killed, where there's wars going on. And that's true. Even within Florida, people talk about Jacksonville a lot. Yeah, there's a bunch of artists coming out of Jacksonville, but there's also a shitload of killings. Meanwhile, you think about Miami, big popping city where there's a shitload of entertainment and nightlife going on and everything.
Starting point is 02:31:30 but we don't think about it in a musical sense because, at least in part, because there's no violence that is making the news going on there. And when you think about all of America and you really think about what cities are popping, usually those are the cities where there's a bunch of bullshit going on. And that's definitely true when you talk about New York, right? The amount of attention that a city gets
Starting point is 02:31:52 is like almost directly tied to how much street violence there is going on. It's been like that since the hardcore rap, beginning of time. I feel like Atlanta might be the only upset they probably got away from that. But I mean Atlanta's where the YSL versus YFN war was going down and whatever it's going on with all kinds of. Maybe we
Starting point is 02:32:12 see it a lot in Atlanta until certain artists blew up. There's so much positive shit coming out of Atlanta that isn't tied to the gang wars and shit that it's like easy to kind of just look away from it because people are always saying like oh look how Atlanta gets along so good and everything. Even like
Starting point is 02:32:28 Bankroll fresh. I mean, even during that time period. That's the guy got to the old last song with Gizi, right? So I'm saying, but like, he got smoked by fucking no plug. And, I mean, but there's just so much other popular music going on that doesn't get attention. Child of a no blood to all. R.P. Bankros. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:44 So you look at it like this, right? It's just about if the artist is willing to let you're into that part of their world or not. Those are the ones we lean more towards because they're giving us more. You understand? Like, we got a. silent beef going on with mad rappers that just like comes out after a while and it's like
Starting point is 02:33:04 you find out like damn these niggas been beefing for like 10 years and we ain't know about it until this nigga got hit over his head so it's like it's about what artists is welcoming that shit and what artist is not like certain artists like I've been around artists where
Starting point is 02:33:19 I had to switch my shit up like I had to be around my ops and I couldn't do nothing like it's really levels to that shit if them niggas walk in here right now you think I'm leaving they're gonna sit out there so I'm done if any of these
Starting point is 02:33:36 drill kids want to become real artists at some point they're gonna have to be able to be at the awards show and not get into a crazy fight with their ops right when they're being led by the drill godfather which is keef who just got let back into BET after 10 years bit with Sugar Hill glitch
Starting point is 02:33:54 I don't know that is little RT they're both RTA I believe is nine and I believe Sugarhill glitch is seven and they both put an ops in the spliff smoking on deads word to my dead except
Starting point is 02:34:08 all that shit is cute and to some bullshit happen and then y'all gonna be mad and then niggas gonna be like oh but he was just a kid so I was like it's a double standard with me he's like I ain't excited about it because
Starting point is 02:34:19 free D down they follow in the same blueprint that they did with the Dada Osama's and all these kids They're saying it's like, let's get someone even younger, have him saying this killer shit. Yeah. Imagine being a seven-year-old and having to walk around watching your back because somebody were really going to shoot you.
Starting point is 02:34:36 You got to think about it, right? When we first heard about Bubba Savage and little AGs, they was kids. Yeah. But was Bubba disenopsion shit when he came out? Yes. Really? His first song. My name is Bubba.
Starting point is 02:34:47 I'm a savage. It's amazing. Run down, let you have it. He's still on her. You don't really want static. Nigger, listen to that shit. But was he putting names in it? bro I can't remember
Starting point is 02:34:57 I'm sorry he he probably couldn't pronounce names at that time he just came from Africa he didn't know what he was saying the regular street lingo like ops and niggas in niggas don't want static this in ops in africa he was dissing ops he was dissing YGs in his first video oh okay I gotta go back they was jumping little other like acting like
Starting point is 02:35:14 acting like YG kids oh my just like Edda baby his first video he was like YGK YGK we was like we've had know this kid I called this camera Like why did you even film that when you see adults putting little kids on to the shit? You're like okay I'm like this is out of control you are sick and look at the outcome rest in peace edat Yeah right rest in peace naughty right rest in peace all these lists right wulati right right right
Starting point is 02:35:45 Rara you need like a documentary about the parents who are raising seven-year-old drill rappers would be a really good documentary you Because these people need to be exposed. We will have to go to my hood and interview some of these niggas mothers and find out why they even allowed it. Maybe they was in the situation or maybe they was dating a nigga in the game. I will say that that little RT kid seems pretty funny though. I didn't see. I ain't get the pleasure of seeing Little R.T. yet. He had a manager that was running all these plays, but they already turned on the manager and they got a whole beef.
Starting point is 02:36:18 Yeah, I seen that. That's what I seen. Shout out to Matt. That's what I seen. Like, I've seen some shit, like, whoever was managing that kid, they ain't managing the kid no more. And immediately I threw a foul play. Like, this is not right.
Starting point is 02:36:34 I don't like this kind of stuff. They're saying all kinds of shit about the managers, with the managers. Yeah, Matt said shit about the mom, saying the mom was using RT money for... I got to run it back and just get on here with little RT. I got to have a real chit-chat with little RT about what's going on in this game. Because he know. He know. one thing about them young niggas, they hip.
Starting point is 02:36:56 They could tell you everything. You think? What? Ask them niggins some drill his story. They're going to tell you what block it happened on. They're going to tell you who might be supposed to have. What you told Dan Rossi was smoking on Vaughn, right? That nigga is crazy.
Starting point is 02:37:11 I'm still trying to figure out where that came from in his head. Like, who told you that was a good idea? What's GD influence around you? GD or he was a young boyfriend. Oh. Is he? I didn't even watch that phone. Oh, see, you got a point there
Starting point is 02:37:25 because I'm thinking more young boy. I'm thinking more of young boy side than him being a billionaire black fan. No offense. No, it's not no offense. It's true. It's true because, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the last, like, you got to think about it, bro.
Starting point is 02:37:40 Why are we still talking about Tupac and Biggie Beef? Because they both died, bro, because of it. Like, why do we still talk about certain deaths in drill rap because that's either like, the main body or that's like the one that hurt them the most so we just gonna keep smirk smud smud smudging for me like that's why niggas go back to dissing because you gotta think right like if if i'm dirk right and i'm making all my life right you got to balance it out right and i got billion in black right and i got billion in black i got let's say jane i got king yellow i got all these people making
Starting point is 02:38:25 disc records. And maybe one of them shits I might find myself liking the shit. Right? And that's pissing me off now. Now I'm in the booth. I'm back I'm around Bay Zoo and
Starting point is 02:38:41 them other niggas. You heard? What kind of music you think I'm gonna make? Because that music shit is all, like, if you're freestalling it, like how we be doing it, it's all atmosphere. It's all what you're doing at the time. I wouldn't be surprised of Dirk's next project has like almost no this is because I feel like his last project had almost no disses of like because you know he's at the level now where it's like he has to sneak this
Starting point is 02:39:05 I feel like he this is once in the blue he can't say somebody's so niggas like yeah yeah I could I could still make a hit out of this but he knows if he does a song and he says billionaire black on the song that just helps billionaire black so much why the fuck would dirk want to give him that look like Look at Benji. He got a whole career now because Cardi said his name one time. And now, granted, his music is kind of cool and shit. And it's like I can see him actually, like, really building a fan base and shit. But it's like Cardi gave Benji a stupid gift right there.
Starting point is 02:39:39 That goes to show you where we're at in the game where even at the highest level, people want to see you dish your ops. And that Cardi needs to figure out somebody to this because it's like, like that captivates a certain percentage of the fans, you know? Cardi gets no gain from dissing Benji But for the content It's like What Cardi?
Starting point is 02:39:58 Not Cardi V. Playboy Cardi Oh Benji and Boo Bill's Benji Boo. Yeah, we threw you off for a second I'm like, what the fuck? Sorry.
Starting point is 02:40:05 I think dirt Personally on the next album for it to be successful I think Billion has to make a song That really pisses Dirk off And he'll say his fucking name Because I seen it I seen Dirt come out with records
Starting point is 02:40:20 I was around them Should have ducked It's only a couple years ago that he was getting really bad with it, right? It's a good song until you get to that part. Because when he was making a lot of music with Vaughn, he was ruthless. That's a good song, no loud hands down. That's a good song until he said that. My stomach drop, right?
Starting point is 02:40:38 I ain't going on. Honestly God, though, like, I hate to hear that part. One of my favorite song. If they bleep that out, I'll listen to that show. The best thing that Dirk could get is to have a Vaughn. And I'm not saying that you're going to find another bond. But another dude that he can rap with and put on who's able to.
Starting point is 02:40:52 on the foul shit that he don't really want to say. Exactly. But in the case of Vaughn, Dirk just stepped it up and started saying crazy as this shit to like match Vonn. You really listened to Dirk when signed to the streets, Dirk,
Starting point is 02:41:04 he was dissing everybody. He was saying Little J name. He was saying Duck name. He was saying Joe A, he was saying everybody name. Like he came out doing that. Like he always was lyrically nice. He always knew how to make a song.
Starting point is 02:41:19 But also, you get that Dirk on his bullshit. he's saying every nigger name. Derr got a song called. He don't give a fuck. Piss me off and is right after D-thinking King Ron Dodd, go back and listen to that song. Bro, let me explain something to you.
Starting point is 02:41:33 If you make a higher enough record, why the fuck you think he dissed up when he died? Why do you think he dissed him when he died? Niggie, he was dissing that nigga for 12 years. I could show you him and Little Reese on a song called Competition where he said Little Duck, he can't duck this clip. like he's dissing ducking them niggas for his whole life yeah that's on that sound of the streets
Starting point is 02:42:00 yes no that's on to the streets when he was OTF Coke boys yeah yeah no for sure shout out some on competition nigga he was saying everybody named yeah for sure he was dissing everybody block he even this wigger world where Rico Reckles is from
Starting point is 02:42:17 so what you think's the future of drill because like you know it was a RICO I think they didn't Sleepy Hollow in them get caught over Rico's like moving forward what do you think see you're gonna slow down on this end I think that people that can't control drill like high so drill is the type of rap that anybody can have a hot song any day it's not the type of rap that is like with jZ conquers for fucking 10 years with the same flow now that don't happen no more is a tom dick or a harry that could blow up right now like a whooski that could just get out of jail and drop
Starting point is 02:42:52 and do 50 million on your niggas That shit wasn't Unhapening back then Nigger Them niggas had more control over who was coming out Like they wouldn't let you come out Under Biggie if you was better than Biggie They were keeping you over there
Starting point is 02:43:07 You don't want you to outshine Biggie Like it used to be more control over that Over who could blow up Now anybody could blow up So bro it's like The future is which nigger gonna make another are you ready? Which nigga gonna make another talk facts?
Starting point is 02:43:26 These records that y'all know from these drill artists when this 2-2G is going to make another suburban? Yeah, here's a question. I just... Are the fans tapped in enough to notice if he does? Because it takes promotion in order to make a suburban. But he didn't have promotion when it blew up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:46 He didn't have shit. But people are kind of like checking for you in a different way when you're that early in your career where they'll give you like more of the benefit of the doubt whereas i feel like once you've already been in the game like him five six years you got to overdo it to make a fucking pop and song like you're gonna really below their socks off in order to impress people i mean i'm saying like DJ call it has a lot of hit song to hit sound and ass songs on his records but it's like the standard for DJ call it's like really high to get people to with something
Starting point is 02:44:16 yeah because it's it's being compared to all this other shit over the years like i don't know i just I don't know. I just feel like there's a lot of like elder statesman drill rappers that have been in the game for 10 years and they might be making some pretty dope music, but realistically are the fans checking for it? Now, maybe if there was a rumor that they killed somebody or their fucking best friend just got killed and the fans knew that they were talking about that. That's the problem with the drill shit is that it's so narrative base that as soon as you're out of the bullshit, the fan, like the reason why we were just saying that we ain't listen to Chief Keith tapes when they drop now. Don't you think that's partially the product of the fact that we just know he's not. talking about a bunch of drama and people stop watching a soap opera when there isn't anything interesting happening right exactly but every now and then that nigger like we ain't see finito coming true we thought that the chief keef wave would never hit us again i'm sure he's still got
Starting point is 02:45:09 more hits on him but it might take a little bit of the marketing team pushing them to make us notice right i think he's gonna take and it's gonna take something to happen to dirk for everyone to like put the focus back on social like if dirt go to jail you don't think that's different audiences at this point you know like the way it's like two different like he's just like the last of what's left of like you know what I'm saying because like if like when von died it was kind of like oh shit dirt like what do you know what I'm saying I feel like if something happens the dirt people are going to look at social like are you going to honor you know what I'm saying not going to always been the person and sosa always been the person that
Starting point is 02:45:49 People around them usually die, I don't usually beat them. Not die or go to jail. Yeah. Rest and peace to everybody. But those niggas lasted as long as they did is because when we first seen them, it was 50 of them, right? Let me speak from a fan's perspective. Yeah. It was 50 of them, right?
Starting point is 02:46:09 And he told us all their names. Right? So we see a bunch of niggas in the live room, right? Talking about what they don't like. It's partially the same shit we don't like. right pointing guns with the camera right and this is the shit we all want to do in our free world life right dancing around in the room with our friends or our guns say i didn't even know that dancing around in the living room with a bunch of guns with a video camera pointed at us was like a thing
Starting point is 02:46:34 when i was a kid like we didn't even know that there was an option kids it was like dance battles always our beef started from basically dance battles and rap battles going wrong right so when you look at the history is like it's always been a mixture of things that turns a rapper up. Remember, it's the look it's the song, it's the dance. We formed a new identity when we heard
Starting point is 02:47:05 Gucci Man. Like, oh shit, like we could put on a hundred chains and go burr and have bad business. No shirt, bunch of chains. Like, this is a wave. I don't even got to be in shape. Like, I could just come as I am with a hundred chains. Oh, this is easy. I don't even have to be in shape. I don't even, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:47:23 Because coming from an era where everything was everything polished, everything was polished. Now it's just like they take you as you is. It's just, it's so crazy. When I feel fat and I'm looking at myself in the mirror, that is kind of what I need to do in my head. I need to fool myself and thinking like you're not fat. You're like cool fat like a Rick Ross or like a Gucci Man Dernus Prime type fat. I mean, shit. I got a lot of myself.
Starting point is 02:47:48 Me, I just don't eat Like, I just don't eat today I'm gonna be on camera And I never feel fat You haven't ate all day today? Because you're concerned We're looking hot Just touching
Starting point is 02:48:01 Really? Touching Jesus I'm like the white girl I just had a big plate of Chinese food Runway, nigga That's how Is that because you was doing the interview
Starting point is 02:48:10 Or that? It keeps me disciplined, huh? Was that because you were going to do an interview Or you said it's trash food at the airport? Both When I was with One time I interviewed Fresh and Fit And Myron did like 20 pushups
Starting point is 02:48:23 Before we took the photo Give himself that a little bit of extra chest You used to do that in jail Pumpage We used to not work out right For like six months Then go work out one day And then go take clicks-fix
Starting point is 02:48:34 And be like yeah nigga And he used to work In jail you got to work out What the fuck else are you found We were smoking weed And gambling That sounds fun too Yeah
Starting point is 02:48:44 Jail used to be fun bro Don't let nobody loud of you like if you if you if you're not getting terrorized and beat up on and shit like if you have a bit of status i can see it being right role over that though like you is this like the music industry but how long were you in there me i was in there off and on for like 11 years you weren't in there long enough to feel like you had to fuck the homie in the ass nah see that's like you weren't you weren't in there long enough to really feel it long enough to want to help the homie that the nigger trying to fucking see now you over i almost got
Starting point is 02:49:17 and a problem in a maximum prison. For standing up for the punks. No, for standing up against, standing up to a punk that was trying to rape a nigga that wasn't a punk. Oh, shit. So a punk? I thought punk was just the dude who was getting raped.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Oh, well, the butt booty bandit. I stood up against freaky black. You protected one of your homies from getting... No, not one of my homies. A young kid. Like, I'm in a max prison, right? I'm like... 16, 17, 18, like these years, right?
Starting point is 02:49:47 kid and another nigger come up that young and I see a nigga trying to do something and I was offended by it like even though it ain't have nothing to do with me you fucking the vibes up
Starting point is 02:50:02 like I don't know why you just looked at that man like he was licorish like this is our house yeah like you can't be stealing a booty in our house and it's not even a nigga who want that I would be offended
Starting point is 02:50:15 this niggas ain't here who want Like go holler at them. Do that in another jail. Go highlight it's niggas in every jail that's wants that. I would hope that if I got locked up, I would have that kind of seniority that I could outlaw other dudes in the ass against their will. You can. But I couldn't stop nothing.
Starting point is 02:50:35 If it's consensual, go ahead. That was ready to kill me. That nigger is like, nigger, I got life. Do I tell you when to get your dick wet, nigger? So you was like, oh, now I respect it. No. he was ready to die and I wasn't all right
Starting point is 02:50:51 straight up buddy I tried to stand up here I ain't last long nigga how long you was in Rikers? I was on Rikers Island off and on for a couple of years but I ain't trying to rock up that hard like this was in prison no Rikers that wasn't I seen
Starting point is 02:51:07 it's in on Rikers but they never was like around me because there's a house where they put those type of people that's away from us. You understand? So we never really got to see him, really, until you get up north, where they just throw everybody in the dorm together.
Starting point is 02:51:25 There's no sales. Remember when Wayne was in Wright? You wasn't in Iraqis when Wayne was in it? Nah. You said you was locked up with China Mac though, right? Yeah, I was on, I was not on records. I was already upstate. China Mac stepping on shit?
Starting point is 02:51:37 Like 0-7, 08. What was China Mac like behind bars? We need to know. China Mac, he was, he was the same way. He was about. his money he was about his business and he'll defend his self if a nigger want to play with him like all right i don't see nothing really different besides him being more playful like before being around you had the chipped tooth then i'm i think so i think i think that's where he
Starting point is 02:52:00 chipped it i think that's where he chipped it in jail but this the thing you got to understand being around china mac and them niggas at a time it was like him and a whole bunch of the niggas like him with mad money and it was like the fucking chinese fucking mafia to us like shadow that was the name is gang yeah like them niggas was like real good money niggas that you know if they got to get in that bullshit they would you know what I'm saying but for the most part being around China Mac it was like I don't know bro like I was around a fucking Japanese royalty or some shit Chinese but Chinese yeah My fault, bro.
Starting point is 02:52:45 Yeah, but like... It's in his name. You for me? Like... It's easy to remember. But, bro, like, being around him and, like, y'all, y'all flawless. And, like, it was like a team called COD, right?
Starting point is 02:53:00 There was some fucking Asian niggas that was paid. And they was running around doing what they want to do in the music industry. And I think that I was trying to Mac managers or something. But I was cool with them. Like, they started a clothing line. I used to wear their shit, you know. I want to ask you about the most feared GD rapper out the rack.
Starting point is 02:53:24 The most feared GD rapper? A-O-K-D. How you feel about A-O-K-D? You said that he's the most feared rapper. G-D. He's G-D? He used to be. I think he left that behind.
Starting point is 02:53:41 I don't think the G-D is accepted if you sleep in a tent. Nah. Did I just accept that I was being trolled with all that? Because I kind of like, I kind of like went along with it like a little bit long. Wait, nah, I don't think. I don't want people to think I'm stupid. I'm really falling for it, right? Listen, I,
Starting point is 02:53:57 he put an Adam 22 diss on World Star. He doesn't even say it. How did he do that? He doesn't even say anything about me in the songs. It's just a song. He just put Allen 22 diss in the title. I listened to it last night. He does not say one word about me.
Starting point is 02:54:10 He didn't say nothing. And it's on World Star. He got like 15,000 views. All right. I'm sorry. Honestly, how I feel about AOKD, right? I feel like it's room for everybody in the world, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:54:27 No matter what kind of dude you are or what kind of shit you went to. If you're funny, you're funny, man. Whether it's you at your worst or you at your best or you stunting or you fronting. A funny dude is a funny dude, man. that niggas funny his playbook right now he really was mad and he really like got itself kicked out and really was doing all of that like i think he was doing that to get his girlfriend back can we confirm that the breakup with the girl was fake i don't think so i think he did that to get the girl back
Starting point is 02:54:59 i think he fuck it because little marcus even even the chain snatching was a skit right yeah that's what i was starting to gather from because that's what hey okay these said in the comments on the little marcus thing so let me ask you a question so did say savors get the chain back So you think he's in on this two? I think they're a fring around. You think he's in on it too? You think he was too down for the memes. He's just having fun with it too, right?
Starting point is 02:55:21 You think so? I mean, yeah, if 4.B.J. Main is getting the loose skits and shit. But they're talking about real shit, though. I never really, like, always. They're talking about fake shit, too. I heard this chain got really took. What's the fake shit? The chain snatching and the becoming homeless and the living in a tent.
Starting point is 02:55:39 No, I think you're talking about Chase Savage and Jamie. Well, I think you're talking about. But you're saying that Tate Savage at the chain? Because he did post it, right? Yeah, I think he got it back for him. I think that was cap too, right? I don't know. I think maybe he got it back.
Starting point is 02:55:53 He gave it to J-Main, J-Main, gave it back to him. I think at one point somebody told A-O-K-D that all publicity is good publicity. And he's just been like, oh, okay. So all I have to do is pretend that bad things happen to me and then people will talk about me. It's the FYBJMaine effect. I feel like J-Main got all these niggas on the internet. But they didn't see any from the nine.
Starting point is 02:56:17 Just. Uh-huh. Skinny from the nine went homeless too. I mean, he was doing that in like a $500 monclair jacket or some shit, right? I don't know how much that shit is. It might be like $800. I don't know. That's not very convincing because why don't you sell the Montclair jacket?
Starting point is 02:56:33 All right. So let me ask you. You've been able to live off the Montclair coat for a week and a half. Hold up. Hold on, right? One second, please, please. So, so you think that when I got evicted and I was working, you think that was fake, too?
Starting point is 02:56:51 When did that happen? See? You didn't even see it. I don't think it's fair. I've seen it. It's not about it happening. It's about you documenting it that it's going to make people pay attention, right? But look, right?
Starting point is 02:57:01 I'm going to tell you, the God honest truth, right? when it happened to Jay Main it was real. Like, I know for a fact it was real. He got his chain sash? No, no, no, no. I'm talking about like...
Starting point is 02:57:17 He was broken homeless. The origin of this whoop wave. Well, was it because he lost his YouTube channel? Like, he was paying his rent off YouTube? It was all a domino effect. No wonder he hates Stunky Man so much. Yeah, you get it? That's when I really started paying attention
Starting point is 02:57:33 to Jay Main is when he became homeless. I forgot. about that. That's when I got tapped in. When he got homeless, right? I was there, like, from a distance, because we was in two different states, but, like, I was moral support. I can't say, like, I did anything to help him. I try to, like, come up with ideas where we could make shit happen, but as far as me, like, financially helping him, I couldn't at that time. But I was actually, like, there, like, seeing it, speaking to him every day, like, we, we, we, we, trying to figure this shit out so when it happened to me it was literally the day that jane got locked
Starting point is 02:58:12 up like look how crazy this yeah lana yes like for riding with the pole i can show you a still picture of me and him on the phone that i accidentally took while we was on the phone and it was literally minutes before the nigger gets pulled over right and he said to me yo bro where do you at and i'm like yo bro i'm at the you whole place bro my fucking you whole place bro my fucking you whole he like yo bro what and I'm like yeah bro like I was fucking moving and a nigger stole my you or they told my you hoarse something happened the you ho's not here he like yo bro if you don't record everything you doing right now bro we do all of this for nothing that's the new mentality in the streets it's like bro if something bad happens to you at least you can
Starting point is 02:59:01 document it and tell the story for the people out there if nothing else works And if you're A-O-K-D, it doesn't even matter if anything bad happens to you. You can just pretend. If nothing else works, bro, tell the truth. You could put an extra joke on it. You could put some, you could minimize it. I don't care how you do it, bro. If you don't put that shit in them people face, bro, like, you know what we is now, nigga?
Starting point is 02:59:28 We ain't got to hide that. Put that shit out there. Like, you ain't got no content coming out right now, right? No. All right, you got a phone, right? All right. What the fuck you on the phone with me for it? nigga get to work so if you super f*** up down bad for money you can't hit
Starting point is 02:59:42 Cardi being by your Cardi of course I could why you ain't never just like or have you I did I did I did like sis always look out when she can yeah like that's that's not something that I like it's not my go-to thing because at the same time like yeah that's sis and all that but like I'm still me too like Like, no, I don't really want to be that person hitting you asking you for no money. Like, has she ever thrown you in your money, though? Like on some like... What about some shmoney?
Starting point is 03:00:15 Like, bro, when you around and you working, that shit is around. Like, it's not, she'll never say no to me if I need something. Like, if I dad ass needs something, I'll call her. But sometimes, like, even my mom's, like, if I'm dead ass need something and dying need, then I could call my mother. Or even my baby mothers. Like, I'm... Like, damn, I'm on my face.
Starting point is 03:00:37 Like, Cardi B, why are me on it? I got those kind of friends and family members that I could really call, but sometimes a nigga just really want to do that shit. It feels better when you really do that shit. Like, you could really, like, do that shit. Like, you do it. Like, you do it. So you being around Cardi B, you knocked down any, like, famous joints?
Starting point is 03:00:58 Because I know you... I know you... I know you... It's easy to... Yo, bro. Listen, put it like this, right? Because I already would have over whoop
Starting point is 03:01:10 When you say Cardi B in the question, like I ain't really trying to overwop When it comes to this. When it comes down to, yeah, I'll be trying to like. You should be looking at you like, you look cloud chasing. Oh, that's not a good feeling.
Starting point is 03:01:27 Yeah. So when it comes down to famous bitches, like, put it like this. I f***ed a lot of bitches before they was considered famous to y'all because of me just being in the mix from like I said from 2011 when French and Charlie Rock was Charcoaler that was like my first little like taste of being older and doing some type of music shit right as a kid I was yeah yeah what up like
Starting point is 03:01:59 hanging with Jim and them or hanging with murder mook and T-Rex or whoever was a fucking rapper we just wanted to pull up on on them and showed them like, nigga, when we're around, y'all good. Like, that was our own little aura, you know? We always wanted to let niggas, but we always wanted to let niggas that was getting money know that they safe around us. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:17 So that was our whole ordeal. When you fast forward, the tape is, like, a lot of these females in the game, bro, like, damn, I don't even know, like, I don't even know where to start, bro, because, like, I had fire lit joints since young. like I used to with like little Rima I used to with like Tiana Taylor like I used to with like fire bitches like for me that's real that's crazy yeah like that's family now
Starting point is 03:02:56 what age like teenagers well that's crazy yeah like teenagers like my sweet 16 when you first seen her yeah I used to hang well like every bitch I ever was random until it was in my 30s. Yo, bro, it's something about Harlem. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to be. You're in the center of shit, bro. Yeah, like, it's not like, it's something about Harlem. Like, the Bronx, it made me rough, tough, Oota, whatever, like, you know?
Starting point is 03:03:24 But the Harlem side of me, it was like, it, everybody was born a star. Like, we all felt like we were stars when we first came outside. We lived like we were stars. when we first came outside. Like what you see right now, they could show you a picture of me when I was 14 and I probably had a similar outfit on. This shit was just probably La Casse.
Starting point is 03:03:49 And these was like seven jeans. You understand? Like we like all felt like we were stars. So when we made it, it was like, oh, you again. For me? Like it was always that thing. Like if you was in a relationship with a girl back then, y'all boys.
Starting point is 03:04:09 was trying to be great y'all's trying to stun on each other like say if you if you break a bitch heart when she's 15 and she blow up when she's 16 you know she gonna act bad for me so it's like nigger losing out on a girl though who then becomes a big deal has got to be like a real painful thing that yo i ain't even lose out on her i just went to jail like some girls just not with that shit like you know and and and you were together when you went to Yeah, like that was my girl. I was dating her when I got locked up as a kid for all types of whooping for me.
Starting point is 03:04:49 So it's like she was doing what she was doing. I was doing what I was doing in the street and I never brought that shit around her. You know what I'm saying? I was perfect gentleman. When I got locked up, nigga, I was sitting in a cell and that she was on the radio, boom. And she was on MTV when I got up north.
Starting point is 03:05:07 I was like, oh shit. I know you want to spin back. I, nigger, it was like, at that point, it was like, who the fuck don't want to spend back? That's Tiana Taylor. But Nikki ended up going back to her scumbag boyfriend from back in the day. Yeah. So that could be you. Like, yo, you know, listen, right?
Starting point is 03:05:29 If that's my destiny, bro, it's going to be that, bro. You could be big zoo. Shout out of stuff. Yo, you know what? You could be medium zoo. Or bigger zoo. You got your homies with Zoo? Zoot.
Starting point is 03:05:41 You know Zoot back in the day? You got Zoot stories? And Scumbag is all relative, you know? No offense. Yeah, bro. Listen, Big Zoo, he know me. I know him. That's it.
Starting point is 03:05:51 Like, that's the... Oh, because he's a blood, so you beef with him? We know each other. Yeah. I'm who I am. Where I am. He's weird. Where he is.
Starting point is 03:05:58 We are. We all, you know, he's older than me. Like, way older than me. What would happen if you saw him in the airport? I think we'll have a, um... A powwow. Like a grown man conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:09 And if we don't like a lot. like with each other like it's going to be going to dance you know shoddy or any of them yeah them niggas just gangsters you got a shoddy story i got a hard story okay remember the nigger that put him in the trunk yeah yeah that nigger i i was with a girl that lived in his building in smirfield like where six nine used to hang at nigger i used to be over there too like red bars fucking all last time like like Cardi ran down on that bitch twice. Like, I ran that time.
Starting point is 03:06:44 I was in Brooklyn heavy. Like, heavy. And it was this one bitch that I was fucking with that lived on the first floor and Havv building. So I got to see Hav in the wilderness. Like, the nigger, like, that they're saying, like, I'm not saying he's guilty of anything that they convicted him of or he copped out.
Starting point is 03:07:09 I don't know. but niggas respect half you heard like I seen it he was outside like Tate Savage out there
Starting point is 03:07:16 I gotta yeah about that is he let me nah yeah ah that's
Starting point is 03:07:25 that's an accolade nah he he ain't John Wick is hardcore bro John Wick is stone cold
Starting point is 03:07:32 bro I just want to know what Tate Savage had to have done to earn that reputation
Starting point is 03:07:36 bro niggas hardcore bro you can't just be talking about You can't just have it on you.
Starting point is 03:07:42 You know the difference between the nigger that's In Chicago to get that reputation? The nigger, listen. You've got to really do some shit. Listen. What I, so. Like a lot of shit. And I'm not over here trying to incriminate you.
Starting point is 03:07:55 I know, no at all. But let's just deal with what we know. Right. Right. If I don't want to believe your story or you don't want to believe my story, that's cool. Let's deal with what we know. What do we do?
Starting point is 03:08:10 know? What do we know about John Wick? Shot of J-Man. We don't actually know if he killed... Jay Manning them shot at him first, right? Yeah. And he got back, right? Right. All right. And he got hit and the crossfire. Remember, he got skinned in the nose, right? Mm-hmm. Cool. So this is what we know. We know that he got into altercation with Jay Main people who's at a club.
Starting point is 03:08:38 We know what the end result was. shoot out right which means he ain't scared to die because he shot back this is a difference it's niggas who go five deep in a car oozy's shoot everybody on the block them niggas is tough but when you all-core is what do we know what we know allegedly is that he got shot his man went back to get back for him got shot and he allegedly avenged him right walked down mr get back like you think like this is what you got to understand get back game like what you think that comes from that's crazy who you think inspired vaugh you seen the letters
Starting point is 03:09:33 who you think inspired him them too probably would be like well actually if you think vaugh was a problem Do you think Vaughn would have been running around with Tate Savage right now? Absolutely. But the Dirk thing. I think, I think Vaughn gave a fuck about what Dirk had to say? It's niggers like Little Reese. We never saw him up with anyone that didn't with dirt.
Starting point is 03:09:53 It's like Little Reese who'd be around Dirk when he wants to and he can't tell him nothing. We don't know what's going to. He's hanging with Tate Savage. We don't know what's going to. Just like we thought Little Reese and Keith was never going to be together, right? And some shit happened and what Keith did. Flew that nigga out, right? He lost his voice.
Starting point is 03:10:09 what happened they was beefing then right Reese was hanging with boss top and everybody who didn't like Keith right but soon as something almost happened to him what Keith did he summoned that nigga and bring your ass out here man the fuck you know what you lost enough niggas already bro people forget what you mad at me there was a glow gang
Starting point is 03:10:31 there was a glow gang Ham on everything show do your Google's 2016 2015 I forget But we haven't seen them together for a while. I've been watching you since TK. Take a phone call in 2017. Will you get fucking Bell mobile on there on the line? I was really. T&T going crazy.
Starting point is 03:10:51 Somebody at my door. I got to monitor those kind of things. What are you going to do? You're 4,000 miles away, or however far we are. Yo, bro. How far as New York? Trust me, man.
Starting point is 03:11:01 The kind of people I live with, I ain't worried about who's at my door. I just want to know. You live with them kills? I said so much flagrant shit on this interview. Jock, yo. Really brought my true ignorance out for this interview. Yo, bro, no lie.
Starting point is 03:11:19 Listen, man, when you could kick it with people, you could just kick it with people. You can't fight that feeling. But one thing you can say, if John Wick and King Vaughn was home together, they would have been hanging out, saying the most ignorant shit possible. Who we know Vaugh for hanging out with?
Starting point is 03:11:40 Bezou. Tell me about Bezou. Do you know who that is? I mean, not really. I just, he's like another dude where it's like, I heard what was alleged, but he's had such a reputation that you just know that he's...
Starting point is 03:11:53 Do you know who Baby is? No, like, I interviewed him, but I don't know. You tell me. He said he didn't know who you was. That was one of the backlash. How the fuck? And he said, who the fuck is Pop Rock and pool? I expect him to say that at the level
Starting point is 03:12:05 that he's at right now. Just like he just said, Dirk don't want to say a billionaire black name right? Why the fuck what Bezou want to say my name? He following that same blueprint. You still never heard Dirk
Starting point is 03:12:19 say hell no, J. Main was in Sonto, OTF. You ever seen them say that? No, exactly. But he said a much of little sync-ish. No, he didn't. Because now that I understand
Starting point is 03:12:30 the content game, all what niggas did was just clip some shit and make it look like some shit. Yeah, because if Dirk had acknowledged Jay Main during that, That whole arc, Jay-Man, would have blown up way faster. I was his manager at that time. That would be dope.
Starting point is 03:12:43 What's that like? It's dope. Manning J-Man? Nah, like, I'm saying, like, when he was signed to OTF, I was his manager. That was your idea? I'm going to be a fake. No. No.
Starting point is 03:12:52 Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. It wasn't fake. Nah. I really, like, was trying to be his manager. You know how that I should go. Hmm.
Starting point is 03:13:03 Okay. What's the future of, Poperati? for 2024, what you got? No, we're working on. So, 2024, right? I want to stay away from people that are dangerous, like billionaire black, and people that like to talk too much, like King Yeller. Right?
Starting point is 03:13:20 I want to stay away from those people. I got love for them. I want to stay away from those kind of people, right? I definitely want to stay away from a nigga named John Wick, because you never know what John Wick is thinking. He's probably going to feel a certain kind of way about you talking about him for a half hour during this interview. I don't think so.
Starting point is 03:13:40 Describing him in the most vivid detail since the Cichy's Jay Mayne interview with the HIV shirt. Listen, John Wigg. Because those clips of him saying, Fah, Fah, Fah, Fah. It hits so different in the Trave-Lor-Ross documentary
Starting point is 03:13:54 with the brooding music and him just, Fah, five, five. It was just like so intense the way that Trave-Lor-Ross edited that shit. Bro, you don't see the thing is, bro, you had John Wicks saying, right here.
Starting point is 03:14:07 A couple times. You hung out with John Wick outside of here? He hangs out of them. How your stomach felt? I feel like I'm neutral, so I ain't, I don't really got me. So you don't really got nothing. The thing about John Wick is that... You never know what John Wick is thinking.
Starting point is 03:14:23 Like, sometimes you think about what he's been alleged to have done to Blasjindal's mother. And it's, like, kind of hard to, like, even stomach. I love Blasian. I don't think he did nothing to that lady. Right, I don't believe it either. But allegedly, let's say that that happened the way that he was... that they accused him. I think he might have got the other nigger,
Starting point is 03:14:39 but I don't, but I even say that. But it's like then when you think about why, it's kind of understandable, even though I can't imagine myself going and killing some woman no matter what happened. According to John Wick's lyrics, he said,
Starting point is 03:14:57 Mr. Walk him down, shout out to. So that's the only one that I could say, come on. I'm leaning more towards maybe. Because he does awkward shit in interviews when he's asked about it like with mine where he was just quiet Or he's just looking like hella dead in the eyes when Sean Cotton was asking him on that one
Starting point is 03:15:18 But then when he said that in the song It's just like all right. I was waiting for it Hey Come on man Bro, I'm telling you it's like You know bro you don't want to you don't want to You don't want to fuck with bro like I don't You don't want to fuck with like
Starting point is 03:15:35 You don't you don't want to fuck with like you don't you don't sir and niggas bro like just so icy john wick it's a different type of john wick different mind frame different time frame he was it was nothing he was no hose barred he got how many mug shots he got so many mug shots he said what's to come for paparazzi pro in 2024 and then you use that as a launch pad to talk about taste that is more no no no no no no no no no no no no. No, no. All right. So let me get back to my list.
Starting point is 03:16:09 It's a preoccupation. Right? He's going to say you're obsessed and he's going to have a point. No, I'm not obsessed. I'm just not stupid. You're going to stay away. I got to the point in my life where when it comes down to dangerous people like John Wicks, I would just rather not take the risk.
Starting point is 03:16:25 Okay. And try to figure out what he's fucking thinking. That's not my job, bro. Okay. So as I go along, right? I think I'm going to return back to the music scene, right? I got to feel for it again. You're going to find artists.
Starting point is 03:16:37 I'm gonna find an artist Are you dropping music When you say return? Yeah, both Like I'm gonna, Cause me, I'm the type to get the car Moving and then I
Starting point is 03:16:47 Alright, Let's figure this out Who's gonna be the All right, let's go So for some type of shit I do For somebody who ain't ever like Heard your music before Give them a starting point
Starting point is 03:16:57 Like what songs should they go check out right now? Just go look at Look at me featuring Cardi B playing their black That was like That's basically like everything that we just talked about like all on one.
Starting point is 03:17:14 You just get to see the energy. You get to see it like it is one of my favorite songs but it's not my best song to me. But if you look at the energy like the look, you understand it. You think Cardi B was watching the 1090J King Yellow video
Starting point is 03:17:34 and just laughing her ass off? Nah, no. because nah nah she I think she watched Jay Maine but I don't think she'd be seeing like I don't think she really like
Starting point is 03:17:46 you know when somebody lying on you is like you kind of go it's got to be a part of her not to look at it but okay if somebody you hate has a video come out from a popular YouTuber
Starting point is 03:17:57 and it's got like a million views because I would assume she probably hates King Yacht she got to watch that shit right she's only human I just think she don't respect them like I don't care like any other
Starting point is 03:18:07 like any other like emotion they wasn't even like maybe she's too busy it wasn't even locked in enough for her to really care it was just really like niggas you serious but she's got to have seen the million clips of him talking about like everybody asked him about it I bring it
Starting point is 03:18:24 to her attention I think that's the only time she indulge in that kind of keep in mind when I asked him about it he was like yeah I didn't party B I wasn't with her in the stew that's where me and him started beefing right here Really? As you brought that that
Starting point is 03:18:38 That was it. Oh, okay. That's when this shit was over with me and Tatutella. Okay. Like, once he did that, I was like, nigger. Because we think about what position that puts me in. Still associating myself with you while you're doing that, but calling myself loyal to her.
Starting point is 03:19:03 Like, it's but so much of that shit I could take. would definitely make you look like a goofy to her probably even without her judgment because not to say her judgment don't matter because I'm a man but just me as a person I just feel like nigga if you respect me bro you're not going even tap it's still believe I still believe yellow hit
Starting point is 03:19:23 hell no just kidding it's still real than me god damn it hell no just kidding jk carty we know I ain't gonna lie bro but yeah just music I'm coming back I'm definitely going to be
Starting point is 03:19:40 like getting back because I was doing like YouTube web series like some fake acting shit I was playing with that shit a little bit I did like the coldest winner it's dope it's on YouTube it's dope it's some good numbers and shit I did a couple of different ones
Starting point is 03:19:55 but that was like the most successful one and gave me a real feel for it so you can see one of those coming like I'm just adapt to like the whole content environment as well as adding my music to it whether it's the soundtrack to something or, you know, I'm gonna do something different.
Starting point is 03:20:12 I'm not gonna go for like, where everybody going for like, oh, I just need a hot record right now. Like, I'm gonna take an old record, nigger, and put that shit on the soundtrack for a new project and see if I can eat like that. Sample drill. You become a sample drill artist?
Starting point is 03:20:26 You're gonna be like paparazzi bin Laden? Do you know that dude, bin Laden? No, Shani? Oh, no. I don't know Shani. No, the terrorist? I don't know Osama is his name
Starting point is 03:20:40 I don't know Shawnee been lying but I heard of him Let me pause it Okay I've been watching this World War II documentary on Netflix Which is incredible by the way
Starting point is 03:20:48 And It's weird Seeing the crowds of Germans wearing their swastika's fully on board with Hitler throwing up the Hail Hitler salute that I won't do right now
Starting point is 03:21:01 Because people would have too much fun Screencapping it But and you're looking at people and it's like they're not bad people they were just captured by a bad ideology and when you look at Tay Savage he's not a bad person now you really want he just got wrapped up in a war that made him allegedly do some bad shit in pursuit of revenge because really what Osama bin Laden was doing when he put together a fucking team obviously it was vastly
Starting point is 03:21:34 more coordinated. He was just taking action upon people that he viewed as his enemies. Yeah. And Tay Savage has allegedly done the same thing. For different reasons, for personal reasons, as opposed to like a religious conflict or whatever. Yo, bro, these guys legendary dudes,
Starting point is 03:21:50 like F.Y.B.J. Maine. Tate Savage, like, niggas like that. They did a new cool. You don't have to be a bad person to do evil things. Osama bin Laden probably wasn't a bad person He just had a bad ideology implanted in his brain Man all I can say is some niggas is serious And some niggas is not That's it
Starting point is 03:22:16 That's the it's a thin line between And Tay Savage Tay Savage was brought up in an environment In which you gain status and clout By Tate Savage created Abitavit brutality Do you not hear
Starting point is 03:22:32 say 600 say he was trying to recruit the roads I saw that yes trying to recruit the killers he was the nigger who told the niggas with it's just like Vaughan where he's just like the one dude who took it serious like really 100% serious in duck rest in peace he took it serious some niggas like nah nigger I ain't leaving Chicago that right could have been left he took it serious. It was serious to him. I ain't mad at that, nigga. You got to, like, as a civilian, you just have
Starting point is 03:23:08 to be able to look at it and say, okay, I fuck with you as a person. You've done things that I can't imagine doing myself, but it is what it is. The same way that you would look at if your best friend, when joined the army, and became a sniper and killed 50
Starting point is 03:23:24 fucking Afghanis, I mean, you don't take savage level. You're still looking at dude just like this my boy like John Wick level he was doing his job boy but he's on John Wick level he got 50 if we find out anyone in hip-hop has 50 bodies oh no we're never gonna be able to stop making documentaries about him 50 you can't have 50 that's oh we got a hundred bodyishly over whooped if you got 50 he's over whewped if you got 50 Yo, bro, Joe, I'm serious. Why you laughing, you piece of shit?
Starting point is 03:24:04 Yo, bro, I'm telling you, bro, I felt this energy, brad niggas. Tay Savage was going to be like, why did you talk about me for over an hour? He's going to be like, y'all really had to psycho. Because he's going to have to watch this. He's going to be like, I got to watch this. I got to see what they're saying. And that's Rimo's homie. Like, they're, like, really tapped in.
Starting point is 03:24:23 Nah, I respect that, nigga. Like, like, all jokes. aside like I that's just a me and jane thing like a joke thing like me and him always be like yo like john wick thinker like because you could you could say a nigga is savage but then you still got to like put him up against this nigga and it's like who really who really did like i linked up member kenny mac folio's on me yeah i linked him and say savage together so that's coming i watched keny max uh interrogation video too He held it down. He held it down.
Starting point is 03:24:58 I'm pretty sorry. Yeah, at the age of 16, too. Why was he accused of killing a kid at a football game? I didn't watch the clip. I just seen the title. Exactly what you just said. And it's like a 20, 30 minute interrogation footage in his mom. This is, if you know, Julio, you know, Fulio, this is Fulio's little homie.
Starting point is 03:25:18 Hell, yeah, I heard that nigga. This is Bibby's best friend. You know, Bibby from the Who I Smokes. Julio is the Dawson and Do it with the Dress, right? Yeah. They just got shot. the foot but his homie Kenny Matt I got on to them niggas I think cuz y'all and then some other shit called like Swamp stories yeah one night I was just like I don't know I
Starting point is 03:25:42 just pick fucking channel and I just watch every thing you do have you seen the war in Jacksonville with Trebloy Ross yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah those niggas like yeah those niggas like yeah those niggas is serious once you've watched enough swamp stories. It kind of starts to feel like a mad lib where it's like kind of the same stories over and over. They're just changing out the names of the people and the names of the gangs of the names of the cities. The way you got
Starting point is 03:26:07 that shit set up, it literally... It's just the same thing over and over, bro. It's just too much. I get into a zone. I watch like an hour of swamp stories straight and I won't remember any of it. It's just walls of death, just death and death. And I'm just like, playing
Starting point is 03:26:23 poker, just swamp stories pain in the background. Yeah, that's what that is. That's what that is. I'd be fucking playing a game, but I'm on YouTube. This shit is kind of like watching me. Yeah, YouTube documentaries are perfect video game background noise.
Starting point is 03:26:39 Yeah, it's like it's watching me. Yeah. It's real. Tai shit. All right, I'm going to go put the kid to bed. All right. Pop-Razzi Po, still smoking grapewoods. Still smoking the same shit. Remo 600.
Starting point is 03:26:54 Great conversation. I feel like you got a real future as a podcaster. Yeah, I think I just got it on... I don't know if they fuck with you or not, though. It's hard to, like, tell. I got to look at some of the other clips. You got to look at it like this.
Starting point is 03:27:06 Because it takes them a while to start to fuck with people. They start to, like, warm up to them. I think that I should do, like, a lot of, like, a big promo run. And once I catch that rhythm of, like, what the fuck I'm showing these people? Then I feel like everything just goes... I mean My story is so big It's like
Starting point is 03:27:31 What part do you want to Actually all your clips on the No Jumber Clips page pretty much did like 100K plus which is actually pretty impressive But they are like really good titles As well Yeah is a mixture of both Yeah
Starting point is 03:27:44 Is it a mixture of both That's how my career always been Not like I'm taking credit for the titles But like the shit about being outbust on The shit about the buck 50 or like The camera and shit was crazy Yeah That shit was like
Starting point is 03:27:56 Oh, that went by. People are still calling me, like, right now. I'm surprised Cam didn't respond. He don't really talk about old hood shit, right? I mean, never going, like, Cam is, like. He's just out of you talking about sports now. Yeah, like, and then it's like, Cam is the most cockiest nigger.
Starting point is 03:28:12 Like, he wanted the most cockiest niggas out of the mess. That's his whole identity, yeah. He's not even paying a little old meat. No mine, bro. That nigger is like. But he was quick to cook. What's her name, Marissa, uh, from JCP? what's her name?
Starting point is 03:28:27 Melissa for it probably used to have something going on that's probably why called her Marissa think about it was kind of like hinting at that right he was calling her escort and shit you understand what I'm saying but that was such an easy layup if you're cam it is a layup but she says to even address up me she's got to be somebody because cam don't respond to niggas cam no she's definitely somebody she was a right name in the industry yeah cam won't answer the phone for niggas like jim for Did you miss her wave originally? She was like a whole thing for a while there.
Starting point is 03:29:00 Melissa Ford. No, I love Melissa Ford. I love Melissa Ford. But Cam. She took a hell there, bro. You don't want to go to be here. You don't want to be here. Like, you know, you got to think about the time and who's,
Starting point is 03:29:12 that nigga had money for 20, 30 years? Yeah. Cam had money for like 30 years, bro. We took him about Cam. What was that one girl he was dating up until a couple years ago? The brown skin chick break. She was going to fall. What was her name?
Starting point is 03:29:26 Oh, damn. Starts with a Jay, I want to say. What she up to now? That's the girl from that movie. People in the live chat are yelling at this right now. Cameron girlfriend. Her name was. Juju.
Starting point is 03:29:43 Juju. Yes, Juju. I think that's the same girl from an old movie. Like, Bronx Tale? No, but it looks like old girl from Bronx. That's not her. That ain't her. That can be right.
Starting point is 03:29:57 That can be heard. I know what you're talking about, but yeah, that's not her. It can be. If it is, then mind-blown. That's why Swamp stories have. I don't think you know who we're talking about. Even they hit me with the old picture and a kid that looked like Krip Mac. I was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 03:30:10 Was that really good? They were supposed to get them together. The actual people? Cory Baxter? Yeah, yeah. Like the kid and Krip Mack? I said Corey Baxter. Kyle Massey.
Starting point is 03:30:19 Kyle Massey. We were at a party and a FaceTime Krip Mac and they were talking. That would have been dope. though did I not we didn't manage to get them together I don't know if Kyle Massey would have thought it was a good look yo bro I don't think you might be a look though bro like I think like oh I totally agree but I don't know if he thought maybe it was you know free equipment so it's backwards crib mac is I should get a free crickmack tattoo like bro you think nigger like bro niggas no 50s
Starting point is 03:30:52 street what if I get free crick on my head like like where his tattoos in the same font then y um y'all locked in for life i'll do it dude yeah i got a bigger forehead than him too so i got more room y'all locked in for life i wish i didn't get this hair transplant i would have a lot of room i didn't hell you do that you go to the doctor you go to the doctor you give him money they f*** with your hairline a lot of people do it a lot of black guys do it now no i'm good still got my shit no you got hell of hair yeah i think i got over high in this interview that we've been ever like four hours I ain't smoke that sugar I feel like in X QC or something you've been on here all day that shit super runs where you get
Starting point is 03:31:37 that from Superman all right oh this is the fake runs game going crazy and hall off sure yeah that's a fake all right oh the world niggins just fun runs behind anything now yeah because who's gonna stop you what are gonna do Just start a fucking death squad and just go to every city and just kill the runs the fake run stealers If I was young LB, that's what I do No The kind of money that nigga making that shit. He don't even see that shit Yeah, what do you do?
Starting point is 03:32:10 All right I got a dip Appreciate you great conversation Very excited to see what the people got to say about it Oh, you know how the people do Shut out to Remo Then they hate you, then they love you, then they hate you again That's a fact.
Starting point is 03:32:24 Shout out to all the fake runs dealers. We love you as well. You got the Harlem Runts. I don't know. Y'all leave a comment if the nigga got Harlem Runs. Where the Runs come from? Harlem Runs. No Jumber.
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