No Jumper - Preddy Boy P On Growing Up in the Sticks of North Carolina, Club Shootouts & More

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

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The Sharp Tank. No Jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And normally, I don't bring in, like, I don't like to interview my homies. I don't like to really interview people. I mean, it's cool, but you know what I'm saying? I don't really try to base my, you know what I'm saying? My content off that. But this one was a must.

Yeah. This one had to happen, man. You know what I'm saying? And it's been a long time. We said we were going to see each other at the top, man. You know what I'm saying? And we did just that. I got pretty boy P.

For the record. What I say? What I say? What I say? Two Ds for a double dose of the most. You know what I mean? That means I'm going to do a double XL every time. What I said.

How are you feeling today, man? Oh, man. I'm keeping my weather together, you know. Rest of a piece of big pretty, man. You know the blueprint to this pretty shit. They didn't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going through the motions, but, you know, I'm still gathering it together.

It ain't hit yet. We ain't buried my nigga yet. Yeah, it ain't really hit to me just yet that he's gone. You know what I mean? And he left behind a lot of good memories, I think, for all of us. For sure. You know what I'm saying? That we can all sit back and we can reflect on.

So, you know, shout out to him. Shout out to his family, his daughters. You know what I'm saying? Everybody. I know his mama, everybody. Everything pretty. Everything pretty, man. you know, so

yeah, that funeral I ain't even gonna be ready. I don't even, I ain't ready for it either, but, you know, we, we, hey man, what don't break us, make us stronger, right? You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we're gonna match to it, man. We're gonna be all right. For sure.

Talk to me, man, what's been going on? Jack, it's a whole bunch. You know, elevation requires separation. So, you know, I had to kick back a little bit. Yeah. Focus on myself. Right. Right. And now we're ready.

I heard that. I got to definitely, because I know you, but I know I want the viewers and, you know, people who watch this. I want them to know you and who pretty boy P is. Let's walk down. Let's walk him down memory lane a little bit. I'm standing your upbringing, man. Tell us where you're from. I was born in Carolina, you feel me?

My mother was killed through domestic violence, you feel me? So I moved with granny. That's when I turned to the streets. You know what I'm saying? Got into a lot of shit. But you know what I mean? I was an athlete, too. So a lot of shit that I did I got away with in school.

You know what I'm saying? But fast forward. Well, let's go back. I don't want to leave you because I want to know, like you said, you lost your mom to domestic violence. What do you remember that day? Man, you know what I'm saying? I was playing Pop Warner.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Her and the dude was getting divorced, and my mom was supposed to her friend's wedding, but she never came home. And they were getting divorced, her and her husband. So, you know, I remember that day, you know, before my Pop Warner game,

because she never missed the game. And the guy read the Lord's Prayer to me at breakfast. You know? but then after breakfast, he's cleaning his gun. So before my game, he's running around looking for her car around town. So I guess he said, you know what? I'm going to drop him off. You have to come home.

You have to get your son. So after that, we had a pep talk after the game. And, you know, she was just letting me know, take care of your siblings and prepare for something big. And he killed her after that. Made us go to sleep, then he killed her. Then my grandma, you know what I mean? Took over.

So this happened, how old were you? 11. 11. So you've been with your grandmama since you was 11. You can move the mic around. Yeah. So you've been with your grandmama. You was with your grandma from 11 years old

up until you was grown. Yeah. Damn, bro. had to her like you have other siblings too right it was you it was you and who else I'm a little brother and sister that's just a shame church you know what I'm saying especially losing your mama at such an early age in your life 11 years old as 11 year old even wrapped their mind around that man listen I went through a whole year of not remembering shit bro the whole the whole school everybody crying they shut the school down I literally passed my class my grade

my crime. I don't remember nothing. So I was kind of like read, you know, what's the word? What's the word I could say? Reinvented after the end because it's like life is new to me. You get what I'm saying?

Right. Damn, bro. Fast forward, you say you live with your grab mama. Was you starting to mess with music around then? Yeah, I always wrote, you know, to other instrumentals and beats and other people's songs. You know, that was my dream.

it's normally where it starts on. Like, you just start freestyling or what we would call just messing around, Fing around, whatever, trying to figure it out. So I do get that. I'm just curious because you're very good at your craft. Right. You know how to, you definitely know how to put down some shit. Right.

We got to walk, but I got to know. When did you leave Carolina? Well, I was always back and forth during the summers, you know what I'm saying? It seemed like you ain't there like that no more. You know, like. And then it was like, I had my mom made up where I wanted to go and where I wanted to start my music career. So I'm like, man, you know, your city you're from sometimes.

Like Bootsie says, hypnotized with hatred. They don't see your vision. You get what I'm saying? To your vision is active, you get what I'm saying? So I went far away as I could. And I noticed that, you know, because I love you, bro. A lot of us love you. I feel like you by way and dago, you know what I'm saying?

Not for sure. It's really, yo, it's rooted in you. Yeah, it's rooted into you, you know. And I think, you know, people get that kind of misconstrued sometimes because they'll be like, oh, you're not from here. You're not from there like, you don't know, what am I. I got my game from Dagos. You feel me?

Period. Period. Period. It was Trapper Dye in North Carolina. I got a lot of game from Dago. Let's talk about, because I'm definitely curious to know, because me and you've never really talked about it like that. You know, but I definitely want to know, like, the relationship with Hugh Filthy, the no BFE, the label, because you were there for a while.

Right. You know, walk us through that. Like, how'd you link up with him? How'd you get? Oh, shit, man. You know, I would run into bro and, you know, mutual friends. And it's just like, you know, I chop it over, bro. I'm like, man, what's up?

What's up with this music? Like, man, you got something going. I'm like, yeah. And the shit just networked. But as far as, like, um. The no BFE thing, you know, we had these things called compilations. You know, you got CD1 through four. So after the no BFE thing, that kind of like was the end of that.

And then he transferred the FOD. You get it? Yeah. So you feel like that was just, you all was just doing like a run, compilation run? I would say it was a run, but, you know, ideas come. You know, things change. Like I said, elevation, you know what I'm saying? When you're dealing with something?

You know, you don't know how life won't take it, but you grow. Right. He did FOD. I still did FOD stuff. But, you know, as a man, you know, I'm focusing on my brain too. So after BIF, so you did know BIFE, you pretty much consider that. That was just a time of your life doing a compilation, pretty much doing a collaboration with him. Fact.

Okay. I was always curious, man, because I was like, y'all know you was with him for a while, and you was dropping a lot of projects through there. Right. What was the first one you dropped over there? My first project over there was, I want to say, trapfine, volume two.

So you already had the Trapeam Volume 1. You didn't do it through. My first compilation of my series was Itchy Palms, then the Busted Trapeen. I remember the Itchy Pumps. And it busted Coldheart. You know, then we got a, I was on no BFE4. That was my tape.

You know what I'm saying? You know, just keep going with the catalog. So you wanted to, that's why you took Traffin. You got Traffin today. Yeah. And that's why you're doing Traffin now. I got a couple of artists coming out. Yeah.

So you feel like you went over there, you didn't just do music, you learned the blueprint. He definitely gave me gang. Learned the blueprint. But sure. It's where now you feel like you. can take on a couple artists. For sure. I'm ready for that now.

Yeah. So I got a hundred unreleased songs. Ready to go. Man. I mean, working. You know, sometimes you got to sit back, get your work good. So you can take a break. Yeah, I took a break.

Focus on myself. Hey, at least you got a body of music sitting back. I got 16 albums out, man. You do. You got a lot. You've been working for a long time. And these albums are out. They've been put out where you can go and listen to them on iTunes.

Stream it, everything. Everywhere. Stream it everywhere. Pretty boy P, man. Yeah, everything. How long ago do you remember putting together itchy palms? What was the making? I put together itchy palms around 2014, I think.

But let me tell you a story about that project. There was a song. I felt like that was missing. So when I was like 14, I wrote this. the song dedicated to my mama. And I ended up putting that on my first tape, and that's how I knew it was done. Like, I wasn't happy.

I was like, something's missing. And then, boom, I found the song I wrote and added to it, made it better. And, you know, I mean, that's how I ended that CD. Yeah, so you said you put the song that you dedicated your mom when you wrote it 14 years old. I wrote it, man, 14 years old.

Did it sound like you were still 14? Man, listen. When you wrapped it? I mean, it didn't sound like I was 14 because I read, I revamped it. You know what I'm saying? You didn't just put it out as you still heard it.

I just put it out as I wrote it. At the immature mind frame I had, no, I put it together. Did you tweak some of the words in it or did you just wrap it like word for word how you said it? I didn't wrap it word for word. I tweet, you know, a lot of things to make a better understanding to my fans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, your music has been great. But I want to know what builds, what morals and what morals and what.

principles does pretty boy stand behind like what builds you what built this character man i um you know the trauma for one loyalty um finding myself really knowing who i am see a lot of people don't know what they are who they are what's going on where they're going or what's to come you got to find those factors within yourself. Yeah. Because it ain't everybody fault. See, sometimes when we get into situations, we want to blame everybody

instead of take our own faults. So that's the part of being a man or shall I say an adult. A lot of people never take responsibility for their actions because I guess it's easier to live under a lie. It's easier

to lie yourself. It's easier to blame instead of accept your fuck-ups. You know what I'm saying? What's one f-up you felt like you had to accept And it was a hard pill to swallow Something you was like damn I can't believe this happened But I don't even know how I'm gonna get out of this But I'm gonna be made your way

What's one you can always remember never live? There's so many man I was beside my best friend man And probably like 15 When the club fighting he got shot in the head Instead of us Because these guys came back and came back with burners you feel me in the club and us young drinking liquor not even

supposed to be in the club it's like I wish at that moment I said bro let's go we didn't fought but no we're staying here being hard-headed got something to prove doing shit we ain't no business lost him 15 years old and I ain't lose them but I just wish that didn't happen and I lost another partner he died though so we in the club It's three guys in front of me and it's us three. We fighting them, boom, boom, boom, boom, get in the business. They come back like 30 minutes later. Like, what's up?

Y'all want some more? I'm like, shit. We really, we young, and we off liquor. I'm not even supposed to be drinking like that. So boom, the guy right here shot my best friend. Security kill him. Boom. The guy right here shot my other partner.

He got hit in the kidney with a four-five. Security Hill him Boom Guy in the middle Killed the security Boom So it's like Everybody dropping beside me

Everybody dropping beside me I'm the only one to get here You's the only one that didn't get here That's why I know my mama's my guardian Angel Yeah you ain't never told me that story Nick man listen I got That's crazy right there

You feel me So you say like the security guards Killed two people Before he even before he got killed. Well, he had, it was, it was two security guards that was shooting. And one was it, the one that got killed was his brother. That's got to be crazy at 15, just watching the bodies drop next to you. Just imagine you just seen your mama get shot nine times stabbed. A couple of years later, your best friend gets shot in the head and your partner gets shot in the kidney. It's like,

this turmoil still twirling with me. Yeah. Then it's like, I lost Big Pretty, the same way I lost my mama, domestic violence. So, I don't know, they say God give your toughest battles to his strongest soldiers, Pete, I don't know. She'd be trying to break me down, but, you know, I ain't gonna break, I ain't gonna fall. Yeah, no, it just, it seems like definitely like you've went through. What I say.

Man, you've said a lot. And it just seems like you've been through a lot, bro, with a lot of trials and tribulations. Right. Do you feel like, because a lot of people would have crashed out, pretty, like from that shit, bro?

It was plenty times I wanted to crash out. I'm talking about, like, say, fuck it all. Like, don't even care about self-being. It was so many times, but that's the, um, it's a great thing when you got people behind you that care about you.

Because it's certain situations where people may me not do nothing. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, turn it down. certain situations don't make you a bitch. We're trying to last long. It's like a hell of a man to say that too.

You get what I'm saying? That don't make you a bitch if you are smart. Because a lot of people got a lot of gangster shit to prove. It's about the bag. So many people crashing out. And then you got to understand. People got kids, family. Man, you're leaving that shit behind.

Man, think. Use your head. I was done once. I was done once. Yeah. The bigger picture. You said it won't get you again. Man, look, God's grace.

Yeah. No, it's definitely, I definitely commend you for going through some of the struggles and being able to face some of the struggles that you had to endure. Right. That's tough, bro, losing your mama, watching your best friend get pop. Yeah. Like, you know, I mean, to a lot of people, they'll be like, oh, well, okay, but have you ever went?

Have they ever went through that? like been there for some shit like that. I just even see in comments like nigger a post, Instagram post, put a song it's like the people that are common and talking, nine times

of 10 they ain't been through nothing real. So how can you give me instructions or advice on something? We don't got nothing in your portfolio. It's impossible. See, you can't let people trick you. You got to be

smart. Being well-traveled. Yeah. Because you're a well-traveled guy, especially in the music game. Fact. You know what I'm saying? Who have you been,

have you been trying to do any collabs, been trying to work with anybody lately? I'm gonna keep 100. When I did the No B-F-E-F-O-D thing, you know, I did a lot of collabs, bro. I can't tell you, you know. Mainly a lot of stuff I've been doing

is my stuff because I got a lot of shit to get off my chest. See, I feel like with music, it'll get boring and repetitive if you're not going through things. You know, they don't want to keep hearing about the money, the cars, and, you know what I mean, the flashing shit. You know, this shit is self-explanatory. I don't have to tell that.

I want to motivate, like, how these situations we talk about. I want to elaborate on things because there's people going through things like that. So are you trying to just, so I think my question is here. Are you trying to just make good music Or are you trying to touch the heart You're trying to touch the soul You want your music to reach a deeper message Man, I want to leave my legacy

If I do do features You know what I'm saying It's got to make sense to me You know I'm not at that point Of just making music to make music anymore It's got to make sense of me Yeah You think that's where a lot of artists

Like especially you Because I feel like you independent You kind of you've done a lot of clubs You've been under shit you've been under labels, I know this, bro. You've fucked with capital. You've been through a lot of shit. But for you now,

do you feel like you could take trap fiend to the next level? For sure. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think I'm trying to go with that. And I feel like I can get in the booth for anybody because the truth will set you free. Yeah.

I don't think there's nobody out rap me because my story is my story. I'm in competition with myself. What would you classify your music as? trap rap I'm a versatile artist man You know because it depends on the beat When I hear that beat

That's what mood I'm gonna be in Carolina you from pretty It's a little city called Bergo The Sticks You know what I mean You said The Sticks Hid people in ditches and shit

You know The Sticks What I say A lot of shit Go around and go down in the sticks How was it being like like just transitioning from being in the country like that, being in the sticks to moving around big cities. Yeah, like.

Man, you know, I had to step my game up to get my name up. Yeah. You know, I had to change my whole, you know what I mean, look, you know what I'm saying? Like, they had the mother-a-vizu jeans where I come from. You know, at the time, you know, I was younger. And then I'm like, man, they wearing skinny jeans and vans. And, you know, it's just a whole, you know. We're wearing Timmerlands over there.

They ain't wearing that over here. It doesn't even get cold in Southern California. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, it was a transition. Coming from the South, being from the South originally, do you feel like some places in the South, and not all, because Atlanta's obviously, you know, it's a very cultural place,

like with music and everything, but do you feel like some places in the South maybe like Burgo-like places like that are left kind of behind? Like, they're kind of left in the times. They're behind on things. Yeah, that definitely is definitely slower out there. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So that'd be a lot of motivation I give back to those places because it's like, oh, he's wearing this. Oh, he's driving this. Oh, he's living like this. Like I remember one point of time, you know, I ended up having a car. You know what I'm saying? It was a Ford Fusion, but it was new.

This was before I was, you know, this was before I really had some real motion. You know what I'm saying? Before I had motion. But it's so psyched out and slave mentality wise. It's like, boy, you got that new car. You know the police gonna mess with you. I'm like, man, I ain't doing nothing wrong. Why I don't deserve to live a good life?

Don't you deserve to drop a four fusion? But they're, you know, Willie Lynch, bro. You know, they stuck in that. See, the South is where the slavery shit came in. They stuck in that Willie Lynch myself. Yeah. So it's just different. Maybe not all, but there are a majority.

But those small towns, no. It's still alive and well. I never forget me and you. We were, this is years ago, and I think we had landed in Atlanta. Right. We went to go pick up your Panama. We flew in from Vegas. We went to go get your Panama.

I shot my assing up to Miami. So I shipped it up to Miami. You drove down in my porch and you got the Elimeon, the Ascent. Right, but why I brought it up was because of this. I remember we had took some back roads through Georgia. Remember to get to a main highway. And I'm letting you know this is what it looked like where I come from. Yeah.

He's like, this shit looks scary as a mother. I'll never forget there was this pickup truck coming down the road. Right. And he had like one of them flags on the back of it. And like me and him are pushing down in this pretty ass burgundy Porsche sliding two niggas in the car. I see the truck stop its brakes. And he looked out the window. Right.

Turned around and looked out the window. Like what the fuck? y'all doing over here. Out of bounds of the motherfuck. Stop to right there in the street. I'm going to tell you what that is, though. That's what we call a sundown town. You know what that is?

The sundown don't be around. Man, listen, that sundown, if you're not of a certain race or color, you better not be in that city. I never knew it was alive and well until that day. Man, it's serious. Because we was just taking that back red

and take like that back route. Remember, it was just a long, gas road. It wasn't even, it was to take us to the main freeway. I just remember seeing this truck just stopping his tracks, like, because I've seen him already cutting his neck and I turn around, I'm like, bro, this thing is stopped in the middle of the street.

He had like one of them confederating them flags hanging off the back of it, like in the middle, like on the post. Real Klansman shit. Real Klansmanship, bro. You didn't have to deal with too much of that growing up, did you? It's like this. Like racism. Like real bad. It was in school, but it was like

the kids were taught. to get along with the others. Hmm. It wasn't like, how can I explain this? It wasn't like Skinhead up in the mother school and all that.

Like kids were bred to blend in, but outside of this, this is what's going on. Right. So you said it wasn't too much in the school. It wasn't too much. But you know the ones that wear the John Deere outfits

and, you know, shit like that. Yeah. This is the segment where I know we got to touch on this, man, because, you know, I always felt like your game was impeccable, man, you know, and you're very laced and you're very seasoned. Right. I got to know, man, when did you decide to pick up the is and pick up the game? You know, I always had game, man, even since a young son, man.

Girls like me. Hmm. You know, like, I just, I mean, look at me, man. Yeah. Everything pretty. Right. It's the blueprint. Well, I always look at it like this, right?

We weren't always, we have to start from somewhere, and I know we wasn't always the cleanest niggas. So, you know, or not even clean. Of course, we'd be clean health-wide, like, you know what I'm saying, hygiene-wise, but, like, to have on all the design or have on all the jewelry and shit. You know, niggas had to really, we had to really rely on mouthpiece. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And what we could say to a chick, you'm saying, to have them with us. Right. I don't think me and you, we didn't come from having monies and silver. We didn't at all, but I always had a way with a chick. You know what I'm saying? It's like I just am who I am, the product of what I am. My name is Pretty Boy.

Yeah. It speaks for itself. What do you feel about marriage? Do you feel about marriage? I'm going to tell you one thing. What I struggled with because of how my mother died, the love would get you killed, played in my mind. And I slowly evaporated from that until just really,

of my brother getting killed by his chick. So that put me at a funny situation because I'm like, man, I'm starting to ease up wanting to accept love from a female, but it's just like how? Because it's like, am I sleeping with the devil? Am I sleeping with the enemy? Who can I trust?

Because life has shown me different things. And that one subject that has always played with my mind, was love, that four-letter word, the love will get you killed. So is it safe to say that... What I say. Is it safe to say that you don't, you'll probably never love a female? It's safe to say that I might have feelings for a woman that have my kid because she birthed something that I've been missing a long time. You said that's probably the only way that that's a different type of love though, right?

It's like I love you for having my child. I need a different type of love to know that you have some type of love for me. If that makes sense. Run that by me again. So basically what I'm saying is you can't just tell me anything. You have to show me. But I feel like the only way that love subject is going to come within my peripheral is if I have to. have a seed and I'm going to

thank and appreciate that woman that have that because what I've been missing is a part of me so that's brought another part of me but I'm not just going to have a baby with anybody it just seems like love might be off your radar church

I don't think that's something that you and I mean we all I guess we all I'm not going to say I guess we all yearn for some form of love doesn't have to necessarily be with a woman, you know what I'm saying? It could be, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Bro, just such good relationships, healthy relationships. So I get that. But I'm just like, yeah, to probably be in love with a woman, especially some of the things I feel like we've seen. That's hard for me, bro.

You know, I haven't been through it. I don't have been through those situations with those situations scarring me. It's just like you can't talk about it. to be about it. If you love me, man, show me. When's the last time you loved a girl? Last time I loved a girl in high school. I thought you was going to say your mom, but...

I mean, like, but like a love, like it said, like the last time you had any type of love, anything. Like, compassionately, like, break it down. Like, well, I'm just saying, like, because I know love, like you said, that four-letter word is a big word, and it can mean, and it can for a lot of things, you know what I mean? So I would think probably the closest thing that you even had to some love, because that's the first

woman that I think any man loves in their life is their mom. I'm going to reframe that. The first girl I lusted for was in high school. There we go. You lusted for her on the nail. I lest it for. And nailed her to the wall. What I said.

Do you, let's say this, when you, when you with a chick these days, do you base the relationship off of sexual vibes or is it more on a mental skill for you? I'm gonna tell you one thing about me, man.

I don't hear some of the baddest. It ain't about sex. It's about a woman being an asset, not a liability and not a headache. Period. What I say. Hey, let me know we could find a chick that

could drop two. I'll take a bitch that just got one of those. You know what I'm saying? Because all these It's got all three. Man, they're on social media I'm f*** this shit up, bro. Why you feel that way? Because, man, everybody thinking

with their brain in their skirts, man, the first thing you're going to see on the chick page is her with her booty out, man. Like, it's a lot of females that's like, oh, niggas ain't shit, but it's like, oh, I got to do this on the first date or I want this. It's like, man, you're showing the man

what you're offering. Yeah. So what you mean? Why he asked you, why he had the fuck on the first day. I always said the same thing and I always put it in the format of this, right? Pretty.

I always say, look, if you're sitting there and you're giving a man images of you line on your back, sexual like just photos, just like just like just explain photos. You show them more skin than probably what you should show.

And then you get mad when the motherfucker to send you a dick and your DM are getting mad. I'm not a piece of me. I'm not, I'm not these other bitches, man. Please. But like this.

the same thing. What I said. But expecting different results. That's a true definition of insanity. That's a true definition. It's doing the same thing as everybody else, but you're expecting to be treated something different. I just, I don't get that, church.

I never have. At your age, not your shoe size ladies. Do you hear me? It seems like a lot of these older chicks want to be the young ones these days. Man, listen, man, I don't know. Midlife crisis? I know some 50-year-old little girls.

Man, mid-life crisis much. Man, I'm talking about ready to commit suicide and take a nigga down too. Because she thought she was right. You know, I got a touch on it, and I've been waiting a touch on it. Yeah. Until I saw you and brought you here. Right. And we can actually raise the awareness together.

Because I don't want people to ever think that it's just women falling victim to domestic violence situations. Man, listen. You know what I'm saying? Like, and look, man, shout out to the ones that have had to go through that and overcame that. Shout out to the domestic violence, man. And I feel y'all pain. I've been through it. But there's other things that need to be said.

And we're going to touch on that right now. And I feel like just with people thinking that it's always a woman that goes through domestic violence situations, men can go through them too. And I just don't want that to be overlooked because, you know, I sat down with a gentleman yesterday. Johnny Mitchell, I think it was, on the Connect podcast. When I sat down with him and like, we got to talk about the game or whatever, right? He didn't give a f*** about really what I went through. When you got to talk about the pibbin, like, and I say like some of shit I went through,

it kind of would get overlooked. And I had to point it out. I'm like, but you see how like you'll start talking about some bitches and sympathizing for some bitches that ain't even here. But, man, are you sympathizing for yourself too, though, bro? You get what I'm saying? Because I'm going to tell you one thing about this. It ain't just women going through domestic violence.

There are women that are emotional, irrational and impulsive. You know, you can tell a person no one time, and that could be end of the situation. After you told them, yes, a million. Females are move off emotions, bro. So as a man, you have to, the heart of the home is the man.

As a man, you have to know how to control your situation and know what you're dealing with. See, that thing that you asked me about sex, see a lot of people will confuse sex with the right thing you get what I'm saying so it's like before you know it you're tired of her

she's tired of fucking you because what's being brought to the table what have we accomplished where are our goals all I seen was a badass bitch with some big tits and a big ass and all I seen was this guy with a chain on or some jewelry or a nice car this thing got a nice car

ain't got no house or no pot to piss And this bitch and this nigga have nothing in common. Nothing but sex. Man, come on, man. We got to get back to the mind of this. Period. Why are you fucking with him? What has he done for you?

What has he done for you lately? I'm not going. Yeah. What I say. I'm not going either. And I'll be honest with you because, and I think a lot of chicks they take that wrong. Like, well, you're supposed to be the man, right? You're supposed to be the one with the plan.

Yeah, I got plans. But if I got a bitch that's trying to be, she's trying to be combative towards my plans, you know what I'm saying? How's that ever going to work? And then you still expect it. I never understood it. Man, listen.

And I said this a thousand times, though. I said I never understood how a bitch. Josh, for real. I never understood how bitch. A kick, cry and scream all the way to the finish line. Then she want to wear the metal first. Man, listen. You want to still put,

you want to put the first place metal on it first. Hold on, bitch. You cried, kicked. I had to drag you and still won't. the race. Right. Had to drag you complained, kicked and cried the whole motherfucker away. Now you want to wear the metal first.

A lot of that shit stems from a female don't want a nigga to get hired than her. She want to keep him out of eye because guess what? If he gets higher, he's going to get the right one. He's going to get the bitch that appreciate him. You know you're up and you know you're not treating that man. How he's supposed to be treated

so you're trying to keep him down. Facts. Period. And I'm not, listen to me. And I'm not, because there are women out there. That's what I'm saying I love those women because there's women out there that really want to cater to they. They want to see their man win. Hell, and if a bitch you want to see me win, church, I genuinely will always make sure

that she does too. As she does too. She's a reflection of you. I get that every, I get that they're, not every day could be great. Right. You know what I'm saying? Not every day could be perfect. You know, some blitz and glamour. But like the less stress

is very idea. Hey, man, that's a gift. Like, I love that. Like, that's a dope trait that I will always love in a real woman. It's like trying to bring less stress. When she said you got an headache, let me leave him alone a little bit. Instead of coming up in there and trying to be on some bullshit. Yeah, but it's kids raising kids, bro. Like, you got to understand, they don't come from the cloth of our grandmothers and mothers.

It's kids raising kids, bro. I got to have females that don't even know how to properly clean their ass. Don't know how to cook. nigga my grandma go crazy if I brought a woman home that don't know how to cook Do you understand me? But you bad

And they'd be proud to tell you That uh-uh, I don't cook They'd be proud to tell you That shit should have been Back in the day That shit was an embarrassment It's like a bitch We're trying to go learn on the sea

Like I gotta try to learn Because I don't want to be able to cook for my nigga I can't eat out every day I want something good I can't eat out every day I should fuck your stomach up It's not healthy. It's not.

So you feel like, so you feel like you definitely can utilize having a woman in now. You would like to have a woman around you like that to be able to cook clean. Yes, of course. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Of course I want a woman to get me and I definitely would take care of mine. Of course, but it's just like the coin has flipped.

When do you think the coin is flipped? Let me ask you a question. Yeah. When has the coin flipped? short. Social media. Where, you know, instead of a bitch having to face her problems or face the struggles that she may have going on in her household, she'll run this social media and look for comfort.

Man, I didn't see so many situations where one little fallout, a motherfucker will go straight to their story and post subs. How can you trust somebody in your household that post subs about you and let you know what's going in this kingdom? That's a person you can't never trust And know who you dealing with That's an enemy That's an enemy, pretty

Period That's what I feel you like Are you sleeping with the enemy at that point? People better pay attention What they're dealing with I always feel like this And even with my home boy Rest in peace, my brother

Nigga Big Pretty I feel like with that chick She felt like she knew him She felt comfortable You know what I'm saying And that's where it's where really stems from. It's always from the people that my motive is this. It's always people that think

they know you. It's always the closest ones to you that do the most scanless, most fucked up shit, most vile shit. It don't be no damn strangers. Strangers and motherfuckers walking up off the damn street ain't going to know shit like that. I feel like, man, it might take 10 years to get to know the person that you with, bro. People change like the weather.

People change like the seasons, brother. But you have to, analyze who you're dealing with because it gets you in the world full of trouble. People antagonize, you know what I'm saying? People do mischievous things, you know what I'm saying? So you just got to pay attention to what you're dealing with. Have you had situations like that where you've dealt with a dud and you've been like, damn, I'm trying to get about this situation?

Plenty, but I understand the less you feel. feed into it, the better for you. Sometimes less is more. Because a person that's thinking irrational is going to think they're right. You're not going to win. So why do I got to prove myself when I know

what type of God and king I am on earth? I don't lose a female. A female loses me. What do you think bothers a person or like let's say a female? What do you think would bother a person in a relationship the most? Me personally,

I think what bother him is silence. I always notice a person gets mad when you go silent on them. That's the worst thing you can never do. A guilty dog is going to bark. When you go silent on them, I notice it causes a bigger friction than it would if you were just to sit there and argue with it. You know what I'm saying? I never, I always was taught sometimes if you ain't got nothing good to say, it's best not to say nothing at all. Because some words you just can't take back.

Well, I'm going to tell you one thing about me. I love living by myself. Me too. Any chick I deal with got their own place, you know, car, everything. Right. Because guess what? When I need my space, it ain't that I don't like you, but sometimes I need my space. Sometimes I just want to be left alone.

It ain't, I don't like you. I just need my space. Yeah. Have you had chicks ever tell you like, well, if I don't live with you, I can't f*** with you? Well, guess what? You better go find Joe Brown. I'll tell you one thing about pretty Hey and listen

I'm not losing no sleep Guess what you ain't for me What I say Have you ever found yourself Having struggles of getting away from a chick And what I mean by that is like this Like she you can get out tomorrow You can leave everything

But she still be on your phone She's still trying to show up places That you're at Like if you're at them type of Yeah A stonger It'd be fucked up It'd be hard to call them stalkers

I want to call them that. Intentions of being a soccer. I want to call them that, but it's like these are bitches that I feel like we've fucked with. You get what I'm saying? But yeah, some stalking ass ways for sure. I ain't really had too many people play with me in that sense. Yeah.

You did what I'm saying. So, um, because I'm a realionaire. He ain't about just having money, even a million. I'm a millionaire. Baby, this ain't for me. And I think you need to go find someone with a paper route

and go, He's shut up. I always said that to chicks. You know what I'm saying? No, I'll dig you. And I'm going to say this. I always said that the chicks. I'm like, look, there's always somebody willing to do the shit you want done.

The shit you want happening can happen tomorrow. What you won't do the next will. But don't try to force me into it just because you like me and you feel like I'm a perfect fit for you. You know, bitch. Do you not put no agenda together for me. I know. You knew who I was when you signed up for this shit. they just forget.

I don't forget, man. What are some of the struggles you feel like you've had to overcome in the music game, having relationships, just growing in the industry overall? In the beginning, second-guessing myself,

analyzing, did I say this right? Did I spit this right? At the end of the day, us as artists, it's not us to critique what the fans want. to hear, they're going to let you know. And then it's so crazy because

you can have a song, right, and be like, man, this is the one. And then you have that one song that you don't like, and that be the song they like. It's just so confusing sometimes. But it's just like, that's why whatever I record, that shit gets put out. I ain't here to think about it.

I spit what I spit. I said what I said. So you say, you don't have any problems in that. I got to know, like, have you had any problems in trying to build relationships being from the game have came from the game if you had a problem trying to build relationships in the industry people like but what i'm pretty much what i'm saying for example people batting eyes at you like they want to let you in they just kind of nervous because of your background one thing about this shit man when your light shines so bright

it shakes people demons up that's not my job to worry that a niggit of a niggit don't like me because I'm gonna be pretty you know what I'm saying I'm gonna do what I do that's a personal problem with you but I know it's been people in situations that might have a platform more than mine or I can tell insecurities in certain people that I've been around that are more famous than me I've seen it multiple times like they know if he it's over he's so you don't take it as they're timid to fuck with you.

You take it as they're intimidated. For sure. For sure. Because niggas know my, what's the word? My potential. Yeah. Well,

the only reason I said that because I know that, you know, us coming from, like, there's a lot, the shit's opening up. Right.

It's starting to become a big melting pot. You got a lot of people coming from the streets from other different lives that are walking into the media side, that are walking into the

and to the, you know what I'm saying, just into putting music out and shit like that, that are actually starting to catch a buzz now. Right. I just feel like they're only opening up the door to us so much. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like they're timid and fucking with us because they think about

our backgrounds. And not only that, you know, when you're a plant, you're easily controlled, bro. We'll never be that. Some people, you know, people like us is like, you can't just tell us anything. I'm not crashing out. I'm about to embarrass myself for this

because, hey, man, like Gucci said, I've been having it before the rap shit, man. I was who I was before. I might not been as, you know what I mean, updated, but I still have my swagger, Jack. Well, you don't feel like people like Gucci, man. Hell, people like Young Jezy have transitioned completely to a whole different side of things.

I mean, if you sit back and you listen to a Young Jezy album, it's not going to sound the same as a thug motivation. It's not going to sound, you know what I'm saying? Like they switch it up. I feel like they do switch character. I feel like they do kind of conform their personalities. That subject I can touch on because I don't like listening to my old self because I don't want to stay in that lane. So I get that.

But far as me changing my morals and standards to please somebody. Nah You feel like a lot of artists do that these days? For sure When you talk about like the industry plans Yeah Are you an industry plan? Nah man

I'm independent man If I ever found out That like you were playing with me Like and you really like came up here Playing one day like No I'm not And then I find out this nigga We're catching a fade

I ain't never said that Me you Hey I've been kidding Hey man Listen I've been kicking your ass Since long hair man I've been kicking your ass She had long hair, man.

You know what I've said. This thing of them been outside my house. Listen. This thing had been outside my house. And this thing is a big cry. This thing had to be crying. I ain't going to say to who, man. But man, man, the bitch won't act right, man.

What's going on, man? When did this happen? This ugly ass nigger. This nigger that has been sitting outside my motherfuckie house ready to find my church you mad this morning. You just went out. I got a mansion. I'm saying, I got, we just had my mansion that morning.

I just pulled him in the ass. He pulled up in the pet of the perimeter. I think you had a big ass Bieber to 7.50 the time you pull up. We sit there after drinking. You're just mad. I'm like, nigga, what's wrong with you, that's when I had to seven,

but yeah, I haven't pulled up with the porch pent of there too. Your ass, bro. Fortiados, you know what I'm saying? Your ass, bro. Man, I've known this man for years. It's always been an honor to know you

with you like. I feel like you are the epitome of what a real artist should be because I'm going to be honest, if I owned a label tomorrow, I wouldn't want to fuck with a nigga that didn't already have some motion going. Facts. Man, look. Show me what you've been

doing, like how you work. I'm going to tell you one thing about me. I'm already put together. Catalog. Man, listen, I am the epitome of an artist. I'm not going to lie. Your catalog is extensive and your catalog is thorough. It's there.

And it's a lot of good game. Your ass, man, and you made a lot of money off of it, bro. I've watched you tomorrow. I'll be honest. with you. That's why I feel I love the transition of you because you could go without a bitch the next four years, five years, six years, ten years, and still be good. I'm going to tell you one thing

about it. Having like the blessing of making money off something you love to do, it's been times where I ain't have people around and a random rap check and hit the mail. Like, nigga, that's a blessing.

I let you know you're on the right path. Man, what? And I seen how much it was, I'm like, oh shit. You feel like that's telling, like, I'm like, I'll drop a tape tomorrow. Right. You feel like that's like a, it's like a message being sent to you in a sense. You know, you're gonna get messages from the universe for sure.

Definitely was. Stay on this. Don't go back to what you was. Yeah. Because if I go back to who I was, you know, it probably won't be no more of me. Are you afraid of fully transitioning? Never.

I'm ready for growth. You know, sometimes God has sent us down for us to grow. You can be in prison in your own household. That makes sense of you? Fuck you. You can be in prison in your own household. She wants that body. God.

I think everybody in this room can resonate. God will sit you down when it's time for you to sit down. what I said. So you feel like for you, could you ever go like mainstream or would you like to worry, like you're going to sign to a label? Like they tell you like, look, man, give us trafine. We f***ing with

your music. Just come rock with something. I think you got to beat more capital after this. Listen, man, my goal on this earth is to be a generational curse breaker, brother. I'm going to leave my legacy. And that's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah. They've grown this stigma.

on pimps or niggas that come from the game you know to where their sex traffickers, their women beaters, womanizers, you know, what's your take on that when you hear that? Like, I can't

really speak for nobody else, but you know, right is right, wrong is wrong in every situation. I don't, you know, I don't believe in you know, nothing with no kids and doing all this weird shit. You dig what I'm saying?

So that's not the game. You feel like that's not a part of it at all. I don't know nothing about that. I don't know why they always thought that muckus was taking money from somebody. I'm like, do they understand that these bids just giving? They'll give it.

Listen, man. You know? My motto in life about anything is this is by choice not force. If a girl don't want to fuck with me or a guy, feel free to leave me to fuck alone.

Hell know, me and you came from the same division. So, like, our thought process is the way off? So let me ask you a question. Come on. What happened with the crane crushers? I remember you was rapping. Yeah. Because I feel like you're supposed to be rapping with me. Yeah. Well, to be honest with you, it wasn't that the music wasn't

working, and you know, a lot of people ask all the time online. Right. They'll call me crane crushers sharp, whatever. Like, whether joke and whatever. That's how I know it would have worked. If it was still moving to date, it would have worked. It would have took off into a whole other atmosphere. But to be honest with you, bro, it was too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

You know how it is. So why didn't you branch off and focus on yourself? I did and I'm still making music. But to be honest with you, I just got caught back up in the game, dog. That's what kind of happened to it. Like I just got unfocused from that. You know how this shit go. Right.

I know for a fact, me and you got music together that ain't been. dropped. It's never been out. I know the world would love to you. It's never been out. This is, we dropped that shit eight years ago in my base and my theater. I had a movie theater we dropped that shit in. Downstairs in the mansion. So you don't think it's okay to be

versatile in the world that you in? Well, you know, I think it's fucked up because where me and you come from, we was always taught it was people die was to be one way. It was always set to be one way. If you wasn't like that, let me land. And if it wasn't like that, then you

wasn't fat. You know what I'm saying? So when I get on today and I'm doing these podcasts, I'm sitting here, man, Sharp Tank, middle jumper got judged behind the boards. I sit back and I think like, damn, dog, what was I doing all these years? Like, why didn't I, even if I didn't all the way transition or whatever, right? Like, just to start putting my hands into other things. So, I could have been, I could have been way. So let me reword what you're trying to say. You felt like it wasn't cool for us to wear too many hats at one time. Mm-mm. And there's a lot of brothers, hands sisters that are from the game that are very talented

or have other things that they're, you know, they have other tools that could be utilized. Well, let me wrap that up then. We're gonna wrap that up with this. Never get comfortable with anything. Never get too comfortable. No matter what somebody tell you, because the next person don't know your destiny, what I say. Well, I look at it like this pretty. It wasn't necessarily comfortability.

It was just doing what we know. No, when I say get comfortable, as in, for instance, how you said, certain people said, oh, if you do other stuff, you're not this person or you're not that. Yeah. Like, you can't let nobody trick you out of your blessings. You get what I'm saying. So that's what I meant about not get comfortable. Well, you and I both know the division where we come from, and we'll keep it brief and we'll wrap up after this.

But I look at it like this, bro. The circle me and you come from, you know that's how. I was. You know what I'm saying? Like, we was taught one way, one way only. Nigger didn't teach you. Like, the nigga might have to talk

you the game, but he didn't teach you had to take your money and go put it into an escort. He didn't teach you how to be myself. Man, come on now. But, you know, that's okay. You know, still sharp and still, iron, sharp and iron.

And a lot of time, the blind leads the blind. You dig what I'm saying. So I got a message to everybody out there, man. Whatever you feel that you want to do, don't worry about what people think because they're never going to jump on

in the beginning. But once your idea take off or whatever you fucking with, they're going to all try to act like they was there from day one. Just focus on you. Hey, man. What I say.

The truth need no support. Pretty boy P. RIP, Big Pretty. Y'all know what it is, man. Our division is going to still stand strong and still thrive. You dig. Hey, man, I appreciate you.

And hopefully we can come to sit down again. Man, we gonna do it again. I don't eat no nose for you, no nothing. I just know you. Come on, man. You know what it is, hey, man. I love you. I'm my brother from another what I heard.

Hey, always. Traffine in the building, man. And let me say this before he exit. This is not fabricated. This is him. Me and this niggas slept on the floor together. You hear me? So all these weird comments and all this shit, man,

don't try to muck and salt shake my nigger. Man, this shit is official. tissue and you just heard it from it's day one. That's one of my day ones, man, for real, for real. And I want you all to know, man, I'm definitely going to sit down with this brother again. We definitely go out to kick him, man, and kick some

old game. Pretty. I love you, church. I love you church. Everything pretty. And shout out to, man, I've seen a couple guys I've done music. I've seen Sauce Walker. We all know the guys I was rapping with Phil. You know, it's a couple of other people, man. Y'all keep doing y'all shit, man.

Yeah, pretty. I'm out here. again, man. Sharp tank. No jump. Cheers. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.

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