No Jumper - Prezi on San Francisco Upbringing, Beating a Body, Mozzy, Nipsey & More

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

Prezi talks about his upbringing, beating a case, street activities, signing to Empire, relationship with Mozzy, working with Larry June, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumber. Coolest podcasts in the world. And today, having a conversation with somebody that would you describe yourself as a local legend? For sure. I feel like you're somebody, I'm going to get a lot of credit for interviewing because everybody from up north, Bay Area, et cetera, is going to be like, oh, my God, that's fucking lit that you got Prezi. Oh, for sure. So I'm looking forward to that. For sure.

I need as much positive affirmation as possible. All right. So how are you doing, man? I'm good, man. Can't complain? I honestly can't remember who told me to interview you. Do you remember this at all? All black.

That's who did it. Okay, all right. All black. I was looking at my swamp stories DMs being like, who from up north would be like telling me to interview you or something? But okay, all black suggested it, right? That makes sense. It's my dog.

So, I don't know. Let's start with your early life. Tell me a little bit about where you grew up. I grew up in San Francisco in the Bay Area, San Francisco and Harbor Road. Been there my whole life since a kid, born and raised. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And I watched a vlog of you sort of like hanging out in the, like, not projects, but like a bunch of different housing type of shit. Them to projects. Okay. They just recently fixed them up a few years ago

to try to make it look better. But growing up, it was like the grimy is or the grimy is. Right. Yeah. And so that's the exact area that you grew up in? Yes, exact area. Yeah.

Okay. And how it was, life out there? It was rough, but it was cool at the same time because everybody was family. It's like a neighborhood, housing projects by the shipyard. I don't know if you're familiar with it in a Bay Area. A little bit, yeah. I feel like I've been over by that way riding bikes over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back then, wasn't no riding bikes. We wouldn't be able to ride no bikes today. It was treacherous to it. Maybe adjacent to it, but not directly in the projects, yeah. Yeah, now it was rough, but it was cool at the same time because it was fan. It was.

family and uh we had everything up there from basketball field basketball court football field baseball field tennis so when we had to leave we had a candy house that was like a store and we we didn't we had to leave it was like family fun like so somebody who's basically running a bodega out of their living room kind of you put it like there you up they had fries nachos anything you guys that's dope it's kind of like a precursor to now everybody like makes food and sells it on Instagram and shit now. Yeah. Okay.

What were your parents like? My dad wasn't ever really around. He was in and out of jail. But my mom, she had six kids. Well, she got six kids. And it was rough, but, you know, she made it work. She made it work for us. Definitely.

And what kind of kid were you? Were you doing all right in school? Or are you getting trouble, like, from an early age? I was hired in school, for the most part, just a class clown, really. Just a class clown. Just always in trouble always. But not really, like, doing too much crazy stuff. just playing too much.

Yeah. Definitely. And where you're from, is it like a gang thing? Or is it more like just based on your neighborhood in terms of how people move around? No, this is based upon your neighborhood where you grew up at when you was born and raised. Like, you know, there's a bunch of different projects where I'm from. Okay. Yeah.

So it's not like in L.A. There's a lot of people who are like from gangs, but they're actually not really from there. They just kind of linked up with them. Nah, no. We was everybody who from where I'm from was born there and raised there. Okay. And at what age did, like, I don't know, were you seeing, like, crazy shit go on outside your house at a young age? I'm talking about since as far as back as I can remember, five, six years old, I remember, like, you know, shootings, we got ground, it's, you know, like, seeing drug deals, everything going on.

Like, the projects were so crazy time, but at the same time, it was family. So it was like, you see so much, and it just, you just adapt to it, like. When you're young are your memories like of just people having issues with each other like within your area or did you like know that there were other neighborhoods you guys weren't supposed to get along with at a young age? Nah, you know it's other neighborhoods that we didn't get along with. So you kind of just like grow accustomed to it like. Just different areas that you don't go. Yeah, you just don't go over. You know if you go over there it's going to be a problem.

Right. For sure. Definitely. Okay. And so what was high school like for you? High school was rough. When I went to high school, middle school was a middle school. kind of rough a little bit. That's when I first

like start like actually like claiming something like middle school but high school was kind of rough because where I was going to high school was at I had to you know I had to carry you feel me on me every day to school every day it was like you know and I was playing basketball at the same time so it's like

practice this nighttime I used to like being my partner I said it would be like four of us they used to just wait on me to practice you know sitting the stands wait on me it was kind of rubble school so you're 6-6 yeah so you were like a scouted at a young age for basketball. Did you feel like pressure at a young age of like, oh, this is what I got to do because I'm tall as shit? Kind of a little bit, but I really had a growth spurt once I got in like

eighth and ninth grade. So I didn't play basketball until my 11th and 12th grade year. I wasn't like, you know, I was so in the streets. It was like basketball was like the last thing I was worried about. It's weird. I feel like being super tall is a huge advantage in basketball, but it's probably a disadvantage in the streets, right? Yeah. Because you're like, it's harder to be low-key and you're just like towering over everybody they notice me everywhere i go like instinctive like crazy i feel like that too i'm just like too tall it was like even if i like wear a fucking mask and it's like i'm just standing out a little too much people spot me anyway for sure definitely um okay so are you like catching cases in in high school

or did that come later so i like luckily i skipped the whole like juvenile part i didn't go to juvenile now one time i was kind of like smarter than everybody else a little bit but uh i caught my first case when I just graduated out of high school. I caught my first pistol case. So you managed to not get caught with it all those years going to school? As soon as I turned 18, I called my first pistol case. Really? Yeah. Damn, how'd they get you? Me and my partner was leaving out the house and where I stayed at, I stayed like in the other territory to where I wasn't really supposed to be there. Okay. So I had to, you know, bring that

with me every day. So something told me when I leave out the house, I told my best friend. I'm like, man, something telling me, just leave it right quick. And, circling around to come back and get it and he's like yeah just leave it and I thought I'm like nah hell now we're up I'm just you know drop me off so as soon as we leave out the projects the police just happened to be right like literally right just like that right there right there behind us and they just search you with no probable cause we're driving we driving I go down the hill we park they follow us for a little minute we park and I just like put it under my seat and got out the car and uh they jumped right out and come here and search the car and took us both to jail

Prior to that, did you ever have any instances where you're walking to school and you actually had to rely on the fact that you had one? All the time. Really? Yeah. All the time. People would pull up and be about to do something, then you just pull your shit out? Are you getting shootouts and then just go to school? Yeah.

All the type of crazy shit. All the time, she was regular. It was like crazy if you didn't have it in a young age. It was like crazy if you didn't have it. Damn. She was regular. That's crazy. You ever hear about anybody getting in, like, shootouts at school?

school and shit. Not from, it probably been a few shootings at schools, but not really too much. You know, call with them, though, at the schoolhouses. Like, you know, I don't know, like, when I was in middle school,

I noticed this one dude, he had got caught in his locker. I put my jacket in his locker because they didn't let us bring our jackets in the class. So I'm like, man, just put my jacket in the locker. So when I put in his locker, we go in the class.

I even know he had it in there. And for some reason, the principal decided to call him and check his locker. And they called both of us to the office. Like, man, you knew what was in that locker. I'm like, I really didn't know. I'm like, nah, what was in the locker? He's like, all right, just go back to class. And I went back to class and then I found out that

he ended up getting called a pistol in his locker. Oh, I was 13. That's crazy. Okay, so you caught that case and what, uh, what happened? Um, they took us both to jail. They asked who gun is it. You know, we both going there, don't say nothing. I don't, we don't know who gun it is. We don't know where it came from. The car wasn't in my, it was my car, but it wasn't in my name. So they let us, they let us out. And, uh, they, they dropped the charge. How they do it's like if nobody claim it they dropped the charters on everybody and they fingerprint DNA you and whoever DNA come back on it they come back and get you okay yeah so they ended up getting you or you're saying up coming back to get me okay they end up um but they came so it's like a three

year window they got they came and got me on like the third year so you totally thought it was over it was oh they came and got me on a flu it just so happened that I didn't have nothing on me when they came and got me but they pull right up on me at our stall we'd be at and uh they just jumped out and put me in cups i was turning 21 in a few days and i had a flight to Vegas they got me right before my birthday wow yeah they call you at the corner store that i saw you do the video at they called at that corner store right there that corner store at danger man that was reminding me like when i lived in new york and it was just way more of my meals would just be like cheesets and little cookies in the shit from the corner store now i'm like a grown man eating salads and

i just can't even imagine oh no i miss those days though just eating at the corner store yeah yeah um okay But so they come and get you and then how much time you end up having to do for that? So I was in there for like two days and I had to bell out because I had a flight to Vegas. So I ended up getting this lawyer. And we're tied to this day. I ended up getting this lawyer.

I told her mom from to bell out. I can't sit there for too long. So I ended up bailing out. And I had court that day. I bailed out. But I had a flight to Vegas. So I told her like, look, I just need you to weigh my appearance.

Why, I'm from going to go to Vegas. So by the grace of God, she was able to weigh my appearance and I ended up making my flight to Vegas. for my birthday. Yeah, and I had fought that case for like two years with her. It was just a pistol case. They was trying to have me take a misdemeanor in probation.

But I was telling my lawyer, like, I don't want to be on probation because that's how they get their time about you when they put you on them papers. They're going to get the time about you. And she was like, sure? I'm like, just let me do like nine months in county or something, you know, and I'll just rock out. I only been jailed two days my whole life at that time. So I'm like, I'll just do nine months or something.

I don't want to be on papers. and then we end up fighting it for so long and they end up coming at the time I wouldn't get in no trouble either so they end up coming with a deal like man just take a misdemeanor and no probation and go on about your business so that's how I ended up working out

okay so you're able to avoid anything too serious with that yeah but at the time so my partner ended up catching a murder case my best friend ended up catching a murder case at the time so my lawyer was like man you know it'd be easy I'm like hell no we ain't doing that your lawyer suggested you snitch

not snitch but basically like I can put it I'm like we ain't doing that stop it And then she was like, no, you know, I just got to say it. Oh, so the guy you were with when you got pulled over, my best friend, Carter Merrick. You could have just put that on him and it would have been like whatever because he's going to do. We ain't playing like that. How many years do he end up getting?

He's still in there. That's my best friend. We got the same task. He's still in there right now. He just lost trial a few years ago. He'd been in there 10 years now. Holy fuck. Yeah.

Damn, that's crazy. Yeah. Like, it sounded like when you're like listening to talk about it and listen to something of the music, they're like a shitload of the people close to you have caught murder charges over the years. Every one of my, I got like maybe 11 close partners. Every single one of us besides like two of us have fought murder cases. Wow.

Yeah, every single one. Some of us lost. Some of us won. You know, it's just, you know, we know what we sign up for when we jump in. So it's like, it just come, you know, come with the territory. Do you kind of regret getting into that lifestyle at a certain point? Or was it inevitable? It was kind of inevitable.

Like, what we're from is like when you grow up at is where you got to be. It's like rare few, rare few make it out to be like, I ain't, you know. It's just kind of like you gotta adapt for real. Or you're gonna be like fish food. Like, you gotta like adjust to it. But of course I regret it. Like, you know, I wouldn't want nobody to live.

It's crazy. Like I wouldn't want nobody to go through that type of stuff. Right. I feel like everybody in the bay is a trapper. Something like that, I guess. True or false. Did you get into that at a certain point? Has that like been part of your life?

Nah, I just know. I always had a job or something or just being like, you know, yeah, I just always wiggle through. What kind of jobs? I worked at U-Haul before when I did construction, when I was a janitor before. I always tried to find a way, like, even when I was in the streets, like heavy, I always tried to find a way to keep money in my pocket.

I didn't want to depend on no other grown men. Like, you know, it's always found a way to try to keep some money in my pocket, whether it was a little bit or a lot. Definitely. Yeah. So you never sold weed. You never were like tried to give that a shot. I feel like everybody in the bay is a trapper,

and it's just, like, unthinkable that you wouldn't give it a go at a certain point. Nah, I try to sell dope at one point. young but I used to feel bad when I sell work and like seeing them messed up like diced like damn I'm contributing to them being messed up so that only lasted for a few months it wasn't really my thing yeah yeah it wasn't really my time you gotta be heartless yeah yeah it wasn't my thing yeah you gotta you gotta sell your mom dope you gotta be like so hardless that you could sell it to your family and not get it I didn't have it in me yeah I don't think I got it in me either

I ain't had it in me maybe like when it all seems fun you know when you start doing Coke, everything seems like it's all good. It's no big deal. Then all of a sudden you're just in deep looking bad. Like, you think about that girls. Like, you just see them and like, you realize, like, what they're going to look like if they keep doing the shit for 10 years. I know some bad, like, females that was bad back in the day, but like, now they strung out and it's like, like, damn. I know. Like crazy.

That's so, it's just like the wildest feeling. Yeah, that ain't good. Or even if they just get fat. It's just like Fat girls cool sometimes though man A big plum one But man that's just like I don't know

Because you're kind of like dead to me Once you become fat You know Yeah I'm just like no I got nothing to do with you To each his own I've been hurt one time

And I like big girls But hey That's your thing Nah not ain't my thing But somebody told me that before I mean you like big girls I'm like I don't have to think about it Like

Maybe it's cool every now and then I don't know But not really like a big girl fetish. It's not even like being a big girl. Being big is cool. It's just when you let yourself go. When you just fully just give up. Yeah, I can't rock like that. You got to have some type of lump back there or something. Some type of rumber back there or something for me to get back there. I just doing it like sloppy. I feel like almost every dude has a memory of going to a party when they're like 21 and seeing a bunch of chicks from high school and just being like, damn,

we only been out of here for like three years. And you already look terrible. I had a few, a bunch of those. Yeah. A bunch of those. But we're so lucky because it don't really matter that much what we look like, you know? Yeah, it's just, you know. You could gain like 80 pounds, and you probably still do five of the chicks, right? Yeah, my personality is everything, so I'm gonna laugh right out of them draws.

Imagine a girl saying that. My personality is everything. I could look like whatever. Like, okay, sure. We ain't gonna really. There'd be a hell of a personality. Right. All right, so I know you caught some other cases after that.

What else has went down with all that? Oh, 2016. I ended up catching a homicide, case myself. Me and my older brother. Okay. Yeah, went up case. And what did they accuse you of? Going in the club and killing somebody

in the club right across from our Hall of Justice or right across from our main police station in San Francisco. Yeah, but it ain't really go down how they try to put it. Like, you know. Really? So what was it a self-defense thing? Yeah, self-defense thing. Me and my big brother was at our studio at the time. It was before I was even rapping.

It was at our studio. And one of our young partners was rapping at the time. And we just went to support him. And when we get up in there, everything was cool. But as we leaving out, you know, I'm tall. So I like my brother kind of short. So, you know, we leaving out. And it's packed.

So when we walk in, a dude, like, squeezing between my brother, and he bump a dude that's in front of him. So when a dude turned around, he just see my brother standing there. And the other dude already walked off. He's like, man, like, nigga don't push me. So my brother, like, man, anybody touch you, like, chill out. So it was like some blowback and forth words between them. And I'm telling my brother, like, man, stop arguing with him.

Let's go. Like, you know. And I missed that. Somebody, you know, mysteriously, a bunch of dudes came from outside and kind of like bum rushed the back door as we leaving out. So once the situation get defused with them, I guess the dudes that was coming in didn't know that the situation was already. getting diffused.

So when I was as we walking out, my brother in front of me and he keep walking and the girl stopped me like, hey, y'all, cool. And I'm like, yeah, nah, I was just a little misunderstanding. It wasn't nothing. And, you know, I like, the club is dark, but, like, when the door opened, it's, like, the light coming. Like, you know?

So when the light come in, it made me, like, look up. And my brother was still walking. So it's like, we kind of, like, a little distance from each other. And the dudes bumrushed the back door. And I just see it like a dude, like, standing in front of my brother, like, you know, like with his hand in his hoodie. like and then my brother like moving him out the way a little bit but he stepped back in front of him

so i just i'm watching like the whole time the next thing i just see a tussle like you know the dude had a gun and whatever and uh my brother tussing over the gun so everybody run out to you know run from the space like so you know in my mind you know we came here together we're leaving here together like this is you know it ain't no other way you know i just run over there and help you and then uh the shots when you go off we get up out of there so That's how I ended up turning out. So the shots went off from his gun or you had your own? Nah, it's shots one off of me.

Okay. But you know, like when you're touching it for a gun, you know what I mean? Like, it just happened like, you know? That's crazy because I feel like that's a situation that I've imagined in my head a million times. Basically like somebody pulling a gun out of me and like having to grab it and wrestle it away from them and shit. But then you feel like that is not actually how this goes down in reality. because anybody who's seriously standing in front of you with a gun is not going to really let you wrestle with them for it.

Right. But that's actually what happened in this case. Yeah, but you know what's crazy because before we went to the club, me and my brother was talking, he got shot before, and he told me how he got shot. He said he had to tussle with somebody over the gun, and he ended up getting shot, like hours before this happened. So when it happened, and we get over there tussling and it kind of happened, blam, we ended up out of there, right?

And we side by side at this time. So as we run in to get away, he ended up mysteriously going this way. I kept going, but I'm thinking he behind me the whole time. Then I hear some more shots like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So when I turn around, he ain't behind me no most on my mind. Somebody just killed my brother or something. Like, you know, so I'm kind of like, what the? So I ended up having to get up out of there and jumping into like tall fence and getting up out of there.

And where I was parked at, it was kind of like I had to walk by the dudes who just, you know, like just ran up in there on us so when i walked by them like they were just looking at me they ain't say too much though they knew yeah yeah they didn't say too much one of them said some little slick stuff but you know there was so much commotion going on i just like i blurt like brush him off like yeah whatever uh-huh i kept walking to the car did you actually figure out what those shots were from i never figured it out okay i never figured it out i figured somebody like you know shot my brother when he was leaving because he wasn't with me no most when i asked somebody man what happened they're like being somebody over there laid out so now i'm thinking they're like outside so

I'm like, yeah, so I'm thinking this is my brother. So in my mind, I'm down there kind of like confused a little bit, like, huh? Like, you know, I was kind of like, throwed off. Like, I was kind of like in the days. And then when I end up walking to the car, I just walked past the car. I didn't even go get in the car. I was still like standing in the area. Like, you know, but I'm like pacing.

I'm just like, and then I just see somebody get out the car like looking. He's like, hey. And then I'm like, man, get the car. Throw him the key, get the car. And then he came back and got me. And we jumped in the car, drove a wall. And how long until the cops came? The cops was already there.

The cops was there like 30 seconds. It was right across from the main police. I mean, how long until they came and got you after that? Oh, 10 days later. Okay. 10 days later, yeah. And you knew it was going to happen? Like, did you assume?

Yeah, hell yeah, we knew. Me and him was talking every day. Some police kept following us. Like, you know, like the police was, he was working too, and the police kept starting. He called him like, like, why a dude following me? I'm like, yeah, turn your phone off. He turned his phone off, but the dude kept popping.

So we had beat some. where you keep popping up on us. So we had a conversation. I'm like, man, clean up. Like, you know, like, just clean up, bro. Let's get ready. You know what I mean? Like, we're going to go sit down for a minute.

But he older than me. Like, you know, he's about 45 right now. You know, I'm 32. So he already did nine years in the feds at this time. Like, he already caught a big case with my neighborhood. Like, one of the biggest cases in California, the feds like, hit. Like, you know, so he already did time, do time. I don't, you know, I ain't ever did time before.

So we, you know, clean up. the night they ended up coming to get me, I got pulled over, like, right before. It was like 11 o'clock night. They pulled me over, but they were just, like, running the place and it's, like, doing weird stuff. And they came to the car, like, man, you ain't got nothing in here, Mr. Gardner? I'm like, man, I ain't got nothing.

Like, what you all? Like, you know? They're like, aye, they're looking. And they let me go. And I get to the house. I'm about to go to a hotel because I kind of figured, like, man, they ain't about to come. And I'm about to go to a hotel with my baby mama called me.

And like I said, my baby mama live, like, where it's not really cool for me to go. And she called me, she's like, hey, like, your daughter's sick. Like, she won't you. So I'm like, I. So when I'm leaving out the house, I got it on me, and something telling me like, man, just leave it. Like something in my mind is telling me, like, don't take it.

So I followed my first mind this time, and I tucked it. And I went to her house, and then we chipping and chilling my daughter for a minute. And I was actually working construction at the time, too. So we go to sleep. try to get something for my BMC, and I'm not even giving me none at night. And then they fold them on and they hit, boom, hit the door, came in and it got me. It was over. And before we even get into what happened with the case and shit, did you sort of like immediately figure out, like, who the dude that you got into the situation with was?

Because you got to also be thinking, like, oh, his people are going to want some sort of revenge, right? So at the time when it first happened, I didn't know, like, for the first few hours. I didn't even know who he was. I called, like, this dude, he, like, my dad. He's, like, a neighborhood community worker. I called him, like, hey, come meet me, you know. Like, I need to come out at me. So when I called him, he came and seen me, we talk,

and he told me who it was. I'm like, damn, that's what that was? I'm like, damn. Like, you know, like, hey, like. Somebody, like, you knew or had heard of or something? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was somebody, like, you know, it wasn't really no problem.

But, you know, situations happened. Did it cause a bunch of shit, though? Oh, yeah, for sure. 100%. It was turned up after that. Like, I was like, I was like, number one hated. Really? Yeah, number one hate it.

Damn. It's just such a trap because it's like now you have way more reason to move around a certain type of way. Yeah. And meanwhile, you have like way more scrutiny on you. But did you get locked up or were you able to bail out? No, it was no bill. My bail was $5 million. Oh, Jesus.

So, you know, they wasn't going nowhere. Right. It wasn't no going nowhere. But it kind of like, like going through that, it kind of like, like, like moving a certain way, it kind of help you in a sense because sometimes when you're in the streets, you get to move in lackadaisical, and you're not, you know what I'm saying,

paying attention to like, it's somebody out there who would do you just because, you know what I'm saying? So at that time, it just made me kind of like more focused up and be just like super, super alert. So how long were you locked up fighting that? So I went to jail.

So my best friend who was, who I told you who was fighting a murder case now, his lawyer, me and her was cool. And she got wind and I was locked up for a murder. she hit the lawyer that I had on that pistol case for two years she ended up messaging her

like hey you know this got locked up for so she came and seen me before I even had a lawyer before I went to court they're like you got illegal so usually that means the police coming out at you

so I'm like I ain't got no lawyer I ain't gonna talk to nobody you know so they're like now you got it's a lawyer in there so I go peek in the dough and it's her

so I'm like what's up she's like man listen chill out don't talk to nobody don't say nothing don't open your mouth I got you don't trip

I'm like, all right, it's cool. So she ended up, she's like, I'm going to get you the best lawyer we got. So she ended up going to get her boss who won't even really take cases like that, but he over everybody. And she begged and pleading, like, man, I need you to take this case from me. Like, you know, and he was like, no, we want to do it. She's like, I'm going to do all the work. I just need you to be there.

And he's like, all right, if we're going to do it like that, and do it. I'm going to go see him. So when I first went to court, she came like, I got in for you. Like, you know, like, it's cool. So she went and sitting down with me. She's like, man, did you talk in an interrogation room? I'm like, man, come on, man.

She's like, wow, this video say 30 minutes. I'm like, shit, I just let them talk. You know, I didn't say nothing. So then she was like, so when she listened to her, she was laughing. Like, man, just next time I don't even straight say lawyer. Like, you know, like, she's like because even if you're going there and not, even though you didn't say nothing, like, you know, you're just listening. It's just like you look like you're bushing in there. Like, why you're just listening?

I'm like, out of school. So she was kind of concerned about how you'd be perceived on the streets as well? or she was... No, not, not. To the jury. Like, we're going to trial behind this. Like, you know, we're about to go to trial behind this. So, you're fucking around giving a goofy answers.

You're fucking around to give a goofy answer to the jury. Right, okay. But I wasn't really talking. I was letting them talk. They was like, trying to play the good cop, bad cop thing. I'm like, man, I'm sleepy. I'm tired. Y'all came and got me a phone in the morning.

They came and got me a phone in the morning. Left me in the room small as this with a wooden chair, handcuffed to it. And they didn't come talking to 12 p.m. Oh, Jesus. I see why, like, dudes getting that in that thing and start telling. It's kind of like they set you up. They're trying to put pressure on you, but I knew I wasn't going out like that. So how long did you have to fight it?

Like, I wanted to take it. So when my lawyer came and they said, man, look, I'm going to get you out of here four months. I told him like, man, we're going to speedy trial this. You know, I got a daughter out there. They're going to, I'm not taking no deals. They're going to have to give me. Whatever time they give me, they're going to have to give it to.

I didn't take it nothing. So he was on board with that. Like, yeah, that's what we're going to do. So speedy trial, basically, like, it's a lot faster, but it's more high risk, but you're like putting more pressure on the state that they have to be able to prove. Yeah, because, like, realistically,

in the state mind, they'll put the murder charters on you and they'll let you sit for five, six years. I had, like I said, at the time, my best friend was in there for four years already fighting his murder case. And he was just sitting here and go to trial with nothing yet, you know, at the time. So I told myself, I'm not going to be sitting here for no three, four years

so y'all figure out to give me that time or let me go on my business. So, and my lawyer was on board. with what I was on board with. And we applied that pressure and the DA was like, man, why should you just wave time? We're like, now we're not doing that.

You know, y'all don't have to let me out. Or something like, let me out on ankle or something. Like, you know, then we waved time. We got on ankle or something. But other than that, I'm not finding here all these times. So when it actually came time for trial, like, what were the important things that you had to prove in order to actually beat it?

So we didn't even make it to trial. We beat it before trial. Oh, really? Yeah, we beat it before trial. We went to prelim first. So it's like when you speedy trial You gotta go to prelim in 10 days But we waived the 10 day

And did like a 9 I think it's like 90 day Prelim So I had to sit there three months And on the third month We went to prelim they dropped it But they refiled on us So it's like It's like we beat it

But they kept us in jail We refound they recharge us So now it's like we had to wait Another little period of time Before we go back to prelim So when we go back to prelim We're in prelim for like three four days Preliminary hearing

It's like when they present the evidence to the judge for the judge to bound you over to go to trial, to be like, you all got enough evidence to take these men to trial. So when we get to pre them, my lawyer, he's a beast. Me and him was tight to this day. He was just going so hard, you know. The DA just actually is like, man, you know what? We actually went left and we came back to court the next day when we came in court. The DA wasn't in there, so we sent down.

And I'm like, man, what the DA has? He's like, I don't know. So the DA came in court. It was like, hey, judge and the lawyers, and we talked to him on the chambers. So they sent us back in the bullpen, and we just sent in the bullpen. We came out, tried to sit back in my seat, you know?

And my lawyer, like, uh-uh, stand up. I'm like, for what? They're like, they're about to let you up out of air. I'm like, oh. That's got to feel so good. Oh, my gosh, that wind. Like, when you walk out to jailhouse, that wind, it's like, no, that breath of fresh air.

It's like, whew. Especially doing the speedy trial, So you didn't have to sit as long and you know that you did the somewhat riskier method and that it actually worked. Yeah, but they was more trying to put the gang on us. Like they was more like they was trying to bang us with the gang because the murder was kind of like, we can't really do too much with them on a murder because the situation and it happened. Like, you know, you can't just say that we just plainly just murder somebody like that. Especially if it's his gun.

You know what I'm saying? They ain't how it'll go. You know what I mean? So but they, you know, the gang in San Francisco is like serious. That's a serious charge. That carried life too. So they're like, man, we're just going to try to get them as the gang and use the murder is a motive like you know what I'm saying?

Wow. So that's crazy. Holy shit. So how do you kind of like return to normal life after that? It wasn't normal. At this time it's fired up now. I'm getting out like as soon as I get out like probably like a month or a few weeks later I get in a little situation like getting a little situation.

But it was cool like you know like it was kind of like normal but it was now it's like I know I'm like the I'm a trophy at this point. I want a trophy before like that was just kind of like regular but now at this point it's like, oh, you top dog. This is before I'm rapping anything, though. So your whole neighborhood, you're like a huge name all of a sudden, everybody talking about you? I'm a big dog at this time.

And then the apps are looking like you're a big problem for them? Yeah, it's like a, oh, yeah, you know, we can't, you know, it just became like a. So even like just going to that club, like you were just describing, does that all of a sudden become like a way bigger decision at that point? Yeah. Yeah. Something you can't even really do like that. It's just, oh, man, it just can't do.

that can't play and I like that. What's this other situation that you got into? That one I got shot. Oh, so you got shot after that? I got shot. I got shot like a year ago. Oh, okay. I just recently got shot.

But you said you had like a situation after you got out. Oh, a situation. After that, when I got out, when I first got out, driving to the studio, we had a studio, driving to the studio, and I ended up getting into a situation. I might get on the side of me. But, you know, I don't really play car games like that.

So I'm driving on my side of the street. They get on the wrong side of the street, and I see it. I'm like, ooh. So I'll get over. Like, you know, y'all ain't get no side of me. They try to get on the other side. I had to see someone out the window.

Start going crazy on the car. I'm like, oh, bustle-luck, get up out of there. You know, you don't panic. You know what I'm saying? You can't panic. So I end up busing the right. They went the other way. They hit the car a few times, whatever.

I went to the house. Holy shit. Yeah, just went to the house. And so it was like it never even happened? Like the cops don't get contacted or anything. Yeah, no, you can't. I know you can't. But, like, that's fucking insane.

But it's crazy because a few months after the police ended up stopping me one day Like hey we need you to come look at some I'm like look at something for what They're like man we heard you at a situation I'm like hey ain't no situation like you sure I'm like yeah I don't play They're like I ain't they never said nothing after that

Really? Yeah I ain't never said nothing So they might have like had footage of it or something I feel like they did because somebody else had said something Like the police where we were from the police Just be talking like they'd just be talking like they had said something But I ain't want to have no conversation with them I wasn't struggling like that But the car got hit a bunch of times

but you didn't get hit? Yeah, the car got hit like four times. The rearview mirror got knocked off and they knocked the rearview mirror off. That was like the only bullet that came in the car for a knock the rearview mirror off and they hit like the side of the car. Oh shit.

The side of the car. And that was the only time that you got attacked like that? No, another situation happened like that too. Somebody tried it on side of me again. It's just, you know. Wow. But, you know, it's kind of like normal, like, in a sense, even though it's messed up that it's normal,

but it's just like, you know, like, and, you know, it goes. both ways. So it's just, you know, it go both ways. You feel like that's just like the life you chose at a certain point? Yeah, but it's like, and I kind of even feel like I didn't even choose it. It's kind of just like just like happen for real. Everything just happened. Like, even with me being a rapper, like, it just kind of happened.

I'm going to do the Vlad thing and say, have you thought about leaving? Vlad's always telling people to leave their hometown. I don't stay. Yeah, I don't stay out there anymore. I've been, you know, waiting out of out of there. But this was a while ago. Yeah, this was a time. At that time, you probably didn't have an option, right? Yeah, at that time I had an option.

I was home. You know, I was 2016, you know? But I know, like, I'm smart enough to know, like, ain't nobody exempt. Like, I know, like, ain't nobody going to spare me. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I try to, like, just be as cautious and careful as I possibly can. And nobody's sparing nobody out here. Ain't nobody exempt.

Nobody being in the program. So. It's really weird for me as somebody who's kind of, like, in the middle of so much of this shit. And I'll have situations where I have somebody that I'm cool with. And I know that they basically, you know, either did something themselves or, ordered something to be done to somebody else that I'm cool with. And at a certain point, I got to just kind of separate myself from it and be like, look, like, this is their fucking lifestyle.

Like, I can't look at one guy as the bad guy and one guy is the good guy. The truth is that this is just... Man, we know what goes on. This is where they're at. And I haven't had to be put in the position of, like, having that sort of, like, lifelong, like, vow to fucking get revenge on somebody. But I can totally understand how they get in that position, given some of the shit this happened to them.

Right. not for sure it just stuff happens out here man you gotta know you gotta be smart enough to know like you know what you're doing a little bit

definitely so all of a sudden you have like a you're much more well known is that kind of what motivated you to start rapping and shit just being at the studio we had our own studio at the time so we're just being in the studio

and it just kind of like me just getting out of jail like the song just kind of just came about on his own like just organically you had a lot to talk about all of a sudden yeah it's just a lot of talk about we did the song probably like November

shot the video in December and my brother ended up getting shot on Christmas Eve so I didn't even want to rap no more like I just was like man it's too serious I had to be trying to rap and you know what I'm saying I'm already tall my face everywhere so it's like I really wasn't motivated enough to rap but the people around me was like man just do it like we didn't even know what we had when we put out the song just kind of just like you're talking about do better yeah so was that like the first song that was the first one first one ever did and it just

took off right away or took off right away took off right away like on more of a street level or start blowing up on youtube and shit right away uh every day when we was checking it would be like 2,000 the first day 2,000 the next day 3,000 the next day so it was like when after 10,000 we kind of like ooh like you know it's going to something as time went on it just kept growing and uh took like two months it was at a million and we was like so throw it off and so like we didn't understand we like we just was doing it like the people I'm with the people I'm around it just kind of just like we were just winging it for real because you don't had you ever really seen anybody have success with music from your area before um yeah one of um so you know I'm

from the projects where RBL posse oh really yeah yeah shout out to them yeah we're from the same projects but I didn't grow up back in the day yeah I didn't grow up under them I grew up under like the people that they kind of have problems with okay I'm saying so they they're from my neighborhood Larry June from my neighborhood. Shout out Larry June, legend. And then with my young partner, he had a hot song

at the time it was called Bodybags. His name was Lama Lama. His name was Lama. It's almost going up. You got to look at Larry June and be like, damn, I wish I could just be like a cool laid back rapper

and not have to be on all this bullshit. Yeah, he's cool. Larry's been cool, man. Larry June, cool. Yeah, he's just chilling, man. That's wild. I interviewed him 2016 or some shit. And, like, it's been wild to see

his career just going nuts from there. He's like this urban legend. Like, people just don't really he's actually like somebody who's done a good job or remaining very mysterious. Yeah, any cool dude too? Just lay it back and just itself. How he's rapping his music?

How he is in real life? Like, he just laid back. Yeah, he barely did interviews. I think he did one interview last year, but I feel like he didn't do any interviews between the one I did and that one, which is pretty wild. Because as a rapper, everybody wanted to do it all the time, you know?

For sure. Yeah, definitely. So, okay, that song starts blowing the fuck up and then are you getting hit up all the labels and stuff? Like, how do you go about getting your business together in terms of making it? shit happened with the song and shit. We didn't know nothing.

We didn't know nothing. We just was going with the flow. And we ended up signing the Empire, though. You know, my bro and guys are tight. So we ended up going over there with guys here to the Empire. Definitely. Yeah, just rocking out of there. And that's been good so far?

Yeah. Nice. My people over there. That's what so. Yeah. Yeah, they must be doing something right because everybody pretty much has positive things to say about empire, which is not the case for most labels. Yeah, no, empire is awesome, bro.

Definitely. So at what point do you start having the conversation about Mazzie and Filthy Rich and shit getting on the song? So Filthy and my big bro who I caught the case with he actually locked up and got double life right now but free him. Filthy and Filthy him was tight so we used to be around Filtz a little bit

and Mazzie was my favorite rapper at the time so I had a show with Neff DeFerl one day just he let me perform with him and Mazzie was end up there Mazzu was there because he was going on after Neff And he was standing on the side of the stage You know? So I was like my turn I just wanted to see how he was gonna react to it

So when it came on he went crazy like he already knew it So as soon as I got off stage We greet each other you know we holl and I'm like bro No I do the remix I'm gonna need you on it he like oh for show Just send it too So I sent it to field he got it he got it And then I want to be Peezy I sent to him Me and his manager's tight and me and Pizzi tight too

Definitely and did that just like add a whole new level of virality to it? Yeah, but just crazy. People don't even know like Nipsey Hussle was supposed to be on that record. Really? Yeah, I sent him the email and everything. How'd you know Nipsey?

It's a crazy story. I met Nipsey in 2017. I was on a little tour with Mazzi. Mazzhi had a tour I was following him around when we stopped out here in LA. And we ended up going to the store, to the Marathon store. When I walked in there, I didn't know they knew I was. It was like May 2017, song been out five months.

And Black Sam said, And I nip them just left. I'm like, huh? Like, oh, okay. And then when we leave out the stove. You're not expecting to be recognized. I'm expecting it. Eight hours away from home.

Not even a little bit. I'm fresh out of the projects. I got $300 in my pocket and the runner car, and we just winging it. Me, my brother and my partner. I walk out the stove, one of their partners. Like, hey, bro, we got the full spot right here. We got the cannabis down there. I don't smoke.

So my brother, he gets these, like, weed attitudes. And he's like, man, we got some weed. We got some weed. I'm like, man, I don't fight doing all that. He's like, let me go to the cannabis. They'll get some free weed. They know you. We go to the cannabis.

And when I walk in there, the lady behind the desk, she's like, she's looking at me. But I'm kind of like paranoid a little, but, you know, I'm a little, I'm like, and she gets her on the phone. She's like, man, y'all, I never guess what we got in here. She's like, hey, you, come here. So I walk over there and she turned the phone, nipples on the other end of the phone. And it's just like, threw it up on me.

And then we chopped it and got my number. And then I ain't hear from it. That was made out of hearing from me for like four months, three, four months after that. And then he got killed before, right after the son came under? No, this is 2017. Oh, okay. I ended up having my son, August 12th.

So I'm at the hospital with my baby mama, my son. We, I'm chilling. And I just get a mysterious call. Like, hey, we're in San Francisco tonight. We had this club. I need you to pull up. It was nip. I'm like, yeah, all right.

Like, you know, I'll tell my baby mom, I'm going. I'll be back. She was mad. But I'm like, man, I'll be back, man. But the club he was going to was the club that the odds would be at. So it was like, it was a risk going there, but I just got a few of my ponds and my brother. And I'm like, man, we're up.

We're from the goat. So we get there, nipples there. We get in there and perform. He's like, man, running back one more time. I need to do it again. We do it again. We, you know, chopping it. We leave out.

They like, may you need us to walk you out to the car? We like, shit, y'all need us to walk y'all to the car? They're like, oh, you for real? Like, yeah. So we ended up going to this little piece of spot chopping it. You know, we was cool. Right. Definitely.

bro but then so you talked about the verse but then it never actually happened so i ended up chopping it with him he like man send me the instrumental i'm gonna get on it i'm like i'm like all right so i emailed it to us so to his email and uh i had a deadline of like turning in by like december and uh he was working on his album at the time and uh he didn't make the deadline so it was cool like you know but he had text me he had called me he like man my fault bro like we're gonna get in the studio though i don't even trip like you know we're gonna get the studio we're gonna do something like, you know, I know I missed the deadline, but it's all good. But we were schooled up.

That was, bro. Definitely. Yeah, it's a legend right here. Yeah, so how did you feel when you found out about what happened to him? I was crushed. I was in Atlanta at the time. It was crushed, bro. I called one of his close pines.

I'm like, bro, because this crap was just talking to the female I was with, I was just talking to her about it. She was asking me about it, and I promise you, like, and I'm like, yeah, you know, like, he wanted to realist dudes I met in the rap game, like, by far. And I get a call. like an hour later like man they just killed your boy i'm like no not him like no no way and seen i was like wow yeah in such a sort of like regular way in like a situation that you can imagine happening

to anybody where somebody is just a little a little bit of a crazy screw just sort of shows up and just does whatever yeah that's crazy so okay what is like like ever since that song like especially that video in particular because that song has like 60 million views on World Star or some shit, right? So this is how I did it. I dropped it on World Star and I dropped it on my channel. So it's 50 million on World Star and 45 million on my channel. Oh, that's great.

So that's 95 you put it together, for real, for real. That's insane. Yeah, so. That's wild. Yeah, but, you know, once I put the song, everything, once I blew up, it was kind of like the hate came, like more. Like I became more of a target in my neighborhood. So it was kind of like I was getting love and hate.

You know what I mean? So it was kind of like a good and the best. situation but me knowing that the world is bigger than my neighborhood I took it and ran with it I took the hate that came in my neighborhood and I embraced it but I know anywhere else I go they're gonna show me love to this day like you know they're gonna recognize me to this day and show me nothing but love because you kind of like at that moment you have like a big decision to make because if you just rap about street shit and and rap for like a more local audience they might love you but on the other hand you're not gonna be able to really like break out of your little world

right that kind of content right exactly exactly and if anything that song felt like it's kind of crazy that was your first song because it felt like a song that was like meant for a big audience right right so it just everything that was happening was having so fast but i was taking you know i'm a likable dude so everybody loving me you know what you come from they're gonna hate you the most so i mean mazzi's a great example of that too though right because he's came from from, you know, not like drill rap, but like basically that type of shit rapping on all the street shit. And then he's like managed to make his shit way bigger and appeal to a big audience.

For sure. That's bro, man. Shout out of myzzy. How did you initially tap in with him and become connected to him? Like I said at the show and then every since then, he always and like vied me out to us. Like, like, if he performing, he would be like, I need you. Like, come on. Like, not really I need you.

But, you know, he want them to do. Like, come on, bro. Like, I want you here with me. Come on. So every time he had something going on, I was. was always like inviting, he always embraced me the right way. So it was like anytime he had to show, anywhere he go, I can always pull up and perform and they're going to go crazy every time.

And he was doing some real stuff that some people, like, you know, that you don't really expect people to do. Like, you know, I ain't had no money at the time like that, but he getting paid for no shows. I'd go perform, the crowd going to go crazy. He would just give me three, four hundred just for coming. Like, I appreciate you. Like, he didn't do it every time, but the time he did was appreciative.

And I ain't even expect it. doing it like like for real so did you do you feel like you took your career as serious as you should have or you could have in that moment or do you feel like you you kind of kept just being you and doing your thing i kept just being me i just kept but it was like i was dealing with so much real life that was going on like at that time i just lost two partners in 2018 like two of my close partners i was under investigation for two more homicides um i just was going through so much that people don't understand it was hard for me to just focus on just rap. Like I had to like, you know, I was really living there.

I ain't had nowhere to go at the time. I'm still in the trenches. So I got to, you know, move a certain way. I can't go to studios and, you know, the studio that we had and we were getting shot up. So we had to move up out of there. So when we didn't have our own studio at the time. And, you know, like, rapping costs too.

You know what I'm just about? Like, you know, rap, you got to spend money. So it was easier when we had our own studio at the time. You know, we didn't really had too much. Mm-hmm. So. Damn. So what happened with those two homicides they're investigating in you for?

I didn't even know at the time I was going to investigate it But I'm in Atlanta And my nephew called me My nephew passed away He called me like man There's two dudes at the house in suits Like at the dough But he's in the house looking at the people

I'm like what they're saying I don't know They didn't say nothing They knock and I ain't open the door So when they left They left a car and the car said Presley called me Right so I'm like damn

So I call my lawyer like hey man Let's two dudes and homicides came to the house Like, you know, homicide and suits. She's like, yeah, what they want? I don't know if they left a car. So I called, hey, what's up? Y'all came to him out looking for me? Like, man, we want to talk to you about a homicide that happened and such.

I'm like, dude, I don't even go out there what y'all say. Like, I don't know about no homicides. Like, they're like, all right, well, when you get back, come out at us? So I called my lawyer. Like, man, call him. I ain't talking about a homicide call him. So my lawyer called him like, man, don't contact him. Contact us, whatever, whatever.

And my brother ended up getting arrested. The one I caught my case with him getting arrested for that. You know, some shit that, no, we ain't had anything to do with, man. Like, they just put that. But he ended up getting convicted for it. And he gets getting back on the pill right now, though. So, they gave him double life for it. And, you know.

That's crazy. Holy shit. Damn. So it's like when you went into investigation, the police got your phone tap, and they don't tap your phone no more. They got to notify you that they had your phone tap. So I was getting, like, papers.

Like, oh, yeah, we had your investigation for this homicide. Oh, wow. And they sent me another paper. we got to do an investigation for this homicide, but they don't tell you exactly what, but they just tell you, like, homicide occurred around this time. Homicide occurred.

How does that feel, finding out your phone was touched? I talk on the phone, like my phone tapped anyway. I don't really have conversations. You can't call me and just had no reckless conversation with me. I'm like, you know, I don't really talk on the phone like that, so you ain't about to catch me, like, saying that crazy. Right. So if that song came on in 2018,

then it's kind of like you're dealing with all this bullshit for a couple years after that, And then the pandemic hits and then, I mean. Pandemic hit and it was, but it was cool, though, because the pandemic time came around. I wasn't even, like, around them. I started, like, you know, like, you know, a few dollars and I ain't get no pandemic money, though. I'm mad. That's one thing I'm mad about.

I ain't got no pandemic money. We took a loan that made us give it back. I didn't get no pandemic money, man. I'm mad about that, but I was doing cool. I wasn't even in the bay no, but I was living out there in Atlanta. And it was cool. What do you like better about Atlanta? It's just I can just be myself out there.

You know, I ain't had to worry about too, too much out there. I can just be myself. I ain't had to look on my shoulders as much. You know what I mean? Just being somewhere different. You know, the love is still like they love you, you know? Like not being from there and being from the bay, and they love me out there. So it would be cool.

You got your own local flavor that they're not used to. Yeah. But then meanwhile, you're not mixed up in their politics. Exactly. You kind of got a fresh start in that regard, right? Yeah, so it was cool. It was cool for me. That's what's up.

Yeah. So what made you want to do this interview now? Like where do you feel like you're at in your life that like you wanted to sort of have because you haven't done like a lot of interviews. I know, I know. You know, I've been watching for a while now. I just always, you know, I'll be tapped in what we're going on like for a minute though. Like for a while and just like, you know, it's a dope, you know, dope platform. So I'm like, you know, get on there and come speak.

Oh, I appreciate it. But like where do you feel like you're at in terms of your music at this point? Like are you motivated? Yeah, I'm getting back motivated now. Like, you know, my mind is a little more clear now, like, just like life experiences, life changes. Like I told you, like, I just got shot last year, like a year and three months ago. I just had got shot.

Yeah, what happened with that? Going to meet my bro at the studio right there. He called my, I was eating with my Bay mama and my son and her daughter. Out of Eden. And then my bro called me like, hey, such and such at the studio, he wants you come knock to his verse out. And I'm like, all right, as soon as I leave here, I'm going to come, I'm going to pull up. So I told my baby mama, like, I'm going to take my son and go to the studio,

and I'm going to meet you back at the house, but it's her birthday. So she's like, nah, you're about to go cat off with a broad. I'm like, no, I ain't. Like, you know? So she's like, now, we all coming. So I'm like, all, come on. So we end up giving to the studio. But on my way to the studio, something telling me, like, man, something is about to happen.

But I, some in my heart, I felt it. But I'm like, you know, it's cool. Like, you know, I'm right, you know. anywhere I go I circle the block like no matter where I'm at I got it's just like a habit of mine I circle the block you see who cars

you're trying to pay attention I circle the block I see a car I don't really pay attention I can you know I don't really look too I end up parking now I'm calling my bro

I'm like no he ain't answering the phone because he uh he told me he was outside smoking his phone was down so my baby mom my son her daughter's in the car

I'm like man I'm about to go to the other dough you all stay right here like you know So boom And I walk around to the other doe I'm ringing the dope bell for like 45 seconds

But something telling me like Keep your back to the door and watch the street It just felt weird In the In the midst of me ringing the door bill I turned to the door and something said But I turn around So when I turn back around I just see like a dough popping

I just see two dudes jump out Like I see a rifle on a hand thing And I see two dudes I'm like ooh And then mysteriously, by the grace of God, it was a car. It was one car on the street because I can either go, only go right or left. I couldn't go this way. I could either go this way, this way.

And I'm in the middle with a block. So it's like, I'm down there, caught my pants down. And it was just a car, like, kind of right in front of me. And I just happened to just get behind the car, and they started shooting, shooting up the car. I'm seeing a piece of the car flying off, piece of concrete off the wall. And for a split second, I'm like, damn like somebody just set me up at this studio like I ain't but in my mom like I ain't going out like this like you know so boom two more dudes start it was like foe it was like foe up they're all shooting

one time so in my mind I didn't panic though you know I'm sitting there I didn't panic sitting there and I'm kind of like just like laughing a little bit like damn he's like you know but I told myself like after the the rifle go off you're gonna get up and run and get up out of here As soon as a rifle go off They stop shooting for like five seconds I get up, take off They start shooting again I'm like, damn, they ain't ran out of bullets yet

What the fuck? I finally turn around the corner When I get around the corner My babe mom in the driver's seat now She's looking at me And I'm just walking to the car now You know? And then when I get there

I'm like she like come on in the car I'm like now let them drive off first So once I've seen them drive off She's like what you just do? I don't for some reason She's like you know She knows how I'd be moving So she thinking I just did

something like what you just do? I'm like, I ain't just like, I didn't do nothing. Like some niggas just try to kill me. And she like, they try to set you up in the studio? I'm like, I don't know. You know? Because the only person who could have set you up was like your friend. It was my dog who's sitting right here, but I knew in my mind that he ain't, you know,

not even close. I'm like not even close. They could have been following you from somewhere else. I would have sent it, you know? I would have sent it. So I get in the car. I knew I was shot in my foot. And my son just looked.

looking at me, like, you know, so I'm trying to keep him calm, and trying to let him know, but he's so smart he was five at the time, he paid attention to everything. He kind of, like, just on it, but I ain't panicking nothing. I just told her, man, drop me off at the hospital. I got the hospital and my phone ring. My young partner's from the projects called me. Like, man, you're like, man, what do you mean?

Am I good? What you know? They're like, man, somebody, they just called us, like, laughing, like, go pick you up. They just kills you. Really? I'm like, yeah, that's what they said. I ain't even talking about how I'm shot at this time. But I'm walking in the hospital

at the same time we on the phone. So I'm like, yeah. Like, all right, so I hang up the phone. Then everybody gets the call. I called him. I'm like, bro, he finally answered. Bro, why y'all don't open the door? He's like, man, had a shot.

He just went on, brother. Police said somebody was shooting back and there was a shootout and da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, huh? You just got a shot? I'm like, yeah, bro. I'm like, I'm good, though. Like, you know, I'm good.

Hang up. And everybody called me. I don't even called my mama at the time. I didn't want her to know. So I was trying to hide it from my mama. like, you know, and they passed me up. I'm trying to get up. I'm telling the doctor.

I mean, here. I'm just a foot shot, man. Let me go home. Like, you know? Then I passed me up. I end up getting a call from my young partner. It's like, man, they want to holl at you. So I end up hollied at the niggas and all the shit.

It was cool. Hollied out of the dudes who shot you? Yeah. What was that conversation like? Well, none, it was just more, you know, they put a respect on my name. That was there. They was kind of respecting it. Like, man, it wasn't for you.

But, you know, we saw you. We had to get our chance. when they get there too often. Really? Yeah. Wow, I'd never heard of that. Just have a conversation about it after? What the fuck?

Hey, man, you know what happened? It's cool, though. It told them it's all up, you know? Damn, the bay is grimy. The Bay is wild. The Bay get wild. Man, people come to the Bay and just be thinking they'd be wild out there.

Everybody like that. Like, you know, just because they're from the other side or whatever, I ain't going to sit there in front. Like, everybody don't get wild. Everybody get wild out there. So it's just happening, man. That's crazy. Because sometimes, yeah, I mean,

in general, like northern California in L.A. I feel like we kind of look at it like shit is crazier up there. Sometimes at least. It gets wild everywhere. There's a little bit more structure it feels like out here. Yeah, it ain't no structure in the bay. That's one thing I realize is that that's a big thing that keeps shit

from happening in a way that doesn't happen with Chicago and shit is that a lot of times like two older dudes will get on the phone and basically make younger dudes be cool with each other that want to kill each other. Yeah, they can't do that in the bay. They can't do that by every. but they can do it about some shit and it's like if you don't have that then it's really just a free-for-all yeah they can't really do that in the bay it's like a it's like a man for themselves for real

it's crazy it feels like i don't know like the bay area has like especially san francisco has gotten like way crazier since the pandemic they bip your car man don't need nothing in your car man they're getting right up in there fast and you can blink yeah it's like the bipping the fentanyl the fucking, I don't know, just like all this shit coming together to just make it like, and the decriminalization shit, so people are like less scared to be getting fucked up in public and shit? Right.

I don't know. Does it just feel like it's just absolutely out of control? The fit and all is Craig, my nephew, Tedd on my hand, he ended up dying off a fit nor perk. So, like, that's man, I don't know where that came from, I don't know. What's me even, making people even think that that to even sell that type of stuff is cool, but that really ain't it.

I don't know. What's wrong with people? You're just bad chemists for the most part, I think. They're just fucking up the batch. But it's like, who even got the idea to start selling that? Like, it's crazy. Shit, the pharmaceutical company's been making it for, like, people in the hospital and shit like that. But, yeah. No, I mean, I remember, like, mid-2020, like, as soon as they kind of, like, let people move around a little bit more,

we did BMX trip. It was San Francisco. And I just had a cop say to me that, like, we were riding bikes at, like, a federal building. And he was just like, yo, you can't ride here. but you could ride anywhere else because this whole city is fucking anarchy now. Like, just like the way that the cop said it to me, I was just like, damn, like,

I never heard a cop talk about like that. Like, like, he just sounded like he had just given up. Like, it was just, he had accepted that this whole shit was just so fucked up that, you know? It seemed like there ain't nothing they can do. Yeah. They try to go down there and clean up the TELs and that ain't nothing they can do, man.

It's just like it's going to be like that forever. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So what's life like for you these days? I mean, it's cool, man I just taking care of my kids man, that's the number one important thing in my life, man, my kids

and just trying to stay out of the way for real like, you know, just trying to like just trying to be better, man I don't like hanging out and I feel like I outgrew that like you know, I know some people they're gonna never like forget so I gotta like move a certain way for show but I try to just stay away as much as possible and just

like I just like do more positive thing I just do an Easter egg hunting projects for the kids and you know just trying to like you know just trying to like clean up an image a little bit you know what I mean like just trying to clean up a little bit man because these people out here the police is against you you got everybody you know what I mean so you got to like start better than yourself in your surroundings you feel like you're just getting it from all sides because you got the cops after you and yeah apparently people very very much want to

kill you yeah but as long as I continue to you know move correct and understand that I'm not exempt from nothing I don't care how good I do in the community or how like you know much love I show or I'm not exempt from something happening so as long as I keep that mindset I feel I'm gonna be straight like I gotta continue to move the way I move I don't care how cool I get with anybody I gotta continue to move the way I move

Definitely are you like tapped in With like all the music coming out And shit like that or in the underground And everything do you pay attention to what's going on With all the music? A little bit I really listen to a lot of rappers for real Like the music ain't the same how it used to be

So I'm tapped down Like I listen to Dirk Like Dirk is one of them dudes with like in the trenches like when I listen to him he put me back in my childhood like you know what I mean he put me at that place where it's like it's like it's the feeling that you get like you know what I mean

so it's like he one of the rappers I listen to Drake one of my favorite artists I don't really listen to too much too many people though for real if you go to my iTunes my album music you'll see like three rappers in terms of like Bay Area rap and Northern California rap and shit What were the glory days from your perspective, like the time period that you love the most?

I say 2017, 2018, S-O-B-R-B-E, all-black. I came out, Mazzian, fifth. Everybody was like, you know, that's when it was like the best times. I'm like, them tours, and that used to be crazy. It was like I had one of the biggest songs, so it was like I was getting just as much love. Like, you know what I mean? So it was like, that was like a crazy time and rap. like in the bay.

Yeah, no, definitely. Because I was around Sri Lanka a lot at that time period, and they were putting me on to all the shit that was popping off up there. No, for sure. And that's why it's funny when, like, when Northern California people are, like, L.A. rappers bite off us.

I'm kind of like, yeah. Like, if they were being real with themselves, some of them would have to admit that they're taking a little bit of sauce from up north. Do you feel like that in general? Everybody take a little sauce from somebody, man, at some point, man.

So people, people, it just, people would be needing something to talk about. man everybody take a little sauce from somebody at some point in a rap career man i don't know definitely so uh yeah what are you motivated to get done throughout the rest of this year or the next couple of years i've just been in the studio crazy uh me and larry june from to drop this record uh it's gonna be crazy i feel like it's gonna be a dope record it's our first time like working um me and i've been knowing black for years now and we still ain't work but we about to though we about to you know just it's time to just start link with everybody and really start you know

making music with everybody because I was so anti and just so focused on me and just trying to stay safe. I don't really trust a lot of people to be linking and going to studios and doing all that. So I try to like stay away from a lot of people. But, you know, it's different. You know, definitely. That's dope, man. I appreciate you sharing the story with me. Yeah, not for sure.

Definitely be safe out there. Oh, for sure. Because, man, you're a wanted man. No, for sure. They don't like you too much. They don't like me too much. But I get a lot of love. Somebody going to love me for Mary Projects, but you know, it's always the one coward who,

who, you know what I'm saying, or a few who might feel a little different. But, you know, for the most part, I just try to, you know, just continue to be in me. That's it, man. I don't try to be nobody else. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you for having me, bro.

Definitely. Everybody, check my man Prezzi out on all streaming platforms and social media, all that shit. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. Thank you so much. Prezzie? Prezy. Prezy.

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