No Jumper - R3 Da ChilliMan on Drakeo Comparisons, Lean Competitions, Lung Collapse & More

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

R3 on the check-in to talk about his quick rise, signing, lean, Drakeo, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 3:00 R3 on looking up to his father even though his father around too much 6:05 R3 talks about getting locked up for 4 months at 18 years old for a high speed pursuit 8:30 Putting out his first song in 2020, labels reaching out and signing to 300 Entertainment 10:50 Adam asks R3 if signing to a label is the best choice for his career 12:20 R3 talks about linking up with Drakeo and his influence 15:05 Relationship with Stinc Team and OTM 15:45 R3 talks about people comparing him to Drakeo and “Flockin” in LA 17:30 R3 on when he started lean and how his lungs collapsed in a car accident 20:40 R3 talks about snatching people's chains and having a “Rockstar” logo on his chain 24:45 E Man talks about his role and how he met R3, their relationship with S5 and how R3 got his name 26:45 R3 on his dating life and what he looks for in a woman 28:00 R3 talks about his love for fashion and the role that fashion plays in rap music 30:20 R3 recalls visiting LA as a kid and if he would decide to move out to LA eventually 31:05 R3 talks about his new project and switching up his sound as his music matures 33:30 R3 shouts out his people, talks about his 2 year old and how he came up with “DA Chilliman” ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today I'm in here with R3. The Chili Man. What's the word? How you feeling? Pretty good. How you doing? Good. Introduce us to your friend here.

It's my boy E.M. Meesey. The great. Yes, sir. How are you guys doing? Yeah, hey, man, you've been blown up. Definitely one of the main rappers that L.A. rap fans keep telling me, hey, why you ain't tapped in with R3 yet?

I'm trying to go crazy with this shit right now, for sure. I'm trying to take you a little bit more serious. For sure. Okay, so yeah, tell us a little bit about your upbringing. Where are you coming from? I'm from Reno Valley, California. It's like 45 minutes an hour from L.A. Right.

Yeah, I've been out there my whole life, born and race. And so how would you describe it to somebody who never been there? And, you know, I feel like you always hear a conversation of like, you know, because it's considered like the I.E. or just outside L.A., and there's always a conversation about, like, is it hard? Is it tough? Is it cool to be from there or not? Like, tell us a little bit about it.

Yeah, I feel like Like when we come from Like especially like with this rap shit Really like what like any type of like Major like a person do It like nobody like really make it from out there So like what we're doing right now It's just like something big

So it's like coming up out there That shit like And that's like It's like everywhere you got nice parts You got dangerous parts Like every city I mean like It's like the best way to describe it I love it though

Is it busy or is it more of like a quiet town vibe? It just depending on where you at. Like you feel me, you got like some parts that it is quiet. You got some parts that it is, cracky, rowdy, turned up. It's like. What kind of spot did you grow up in though? It was like a house, apartments? Yeah, I grew up with the turned-th up part though.

But when I was like 15, I left my mama house. I mean, I started living with my big brother and shit like that. Like, passing back and forth to live with my big brother, my big sister, shit like that. So I get to be in, I got to be in the crack apart, what I mean? What was going on with your family that you wanted to do? to move out at 15? I don't want to say like I wanted to, but it's like you get to a certain point.

It's like you're not listening to your mama saying, certain shit like that for me. She got to find like, she got to like feel like better for me. Like I can't like cause it too much trouble for me. She got to like find other options. So you were the fucked up one. Your mom wasn't the fucked up one. Yeah, I mean that's like it was done a little too much.

Just to just to keep it real. Because I yeah, I definitely wanted to get the fuck out the house at 15. But it was because I was fucked up. It wasn't, my parents were like pretty chill. They just were like, you know, dealing with me being a bad kid. My mom was single mother, so shit like that for me. When I start making it harder on her, it's like, she's like, I'm not seeing with your brother's for me.

Like, I got to live a peaceful life too, you get on me. Right. I don't blame her. Worked out for the best, though. So when did you start getting in trouble? Young. Mm-hmm. Spending from school, all type of shit like that.

That was young, though. Middle school, shit like that. Right. 12 years old, shit like that. Who was influencing you to be bad? You feel like you were turned out by the rap music or what? I don't feel like I was influenced because I feel like I was my leader. But for me, I definitely got like big brothers and shit like that I look up to.

My dad I looked up to, shit like that like that. So probably was following the path of my dad, seeing the shit that he was doing, thinking it was cool. So your dad wasn't around that much, but you were seeing what he was getting into? Yeah, I was saying like, even though like my mom and dad not together, I still like, at the end of my dad, that's my dad. my dad gave me, even though he wasn't around me as much, I still, like, seeing my dad get money and shit like that, knowing my dad was getting money, shit like that. I was, like, idolizing him, you get on me. So it's like, they was probably just kind of like following his footsteps, you from me, father don't even understand how much of impact you got. Right. Is there a lot of, like,

a street-type influence when you're growing up out there, like, in terms of people trying to push you to get into some shit? I mean, I gang bang shit like that, but not even like that, but you I have to just throw that out there, I'm just saying, but... Right. It's like, shit like that happens. If you see you're going to hang with a crowd like this, you can hang out with a crowd like that. For me, I ended up hanging out with a crowd like that.

What a knee and they end up doing. Right. But so you were done with school and everything by the time you're 15? No, I kept going to school and shit like that, trying to do it. I'm trying to go as far as I could, but, like, I started going to continue school.

Even regular schools don't want a nigga no more. So continuation school is just like a, a separate school for kids who are acting out that want to get their degree or graduate you fucking up you're grades is low shit like that right it's just it's like a little bit of easier environment and shit sure i want to say it's like easier environment because it's like i'm getting kicked out of school so it's like the kids just like me there i'm in the kid i'm in the school what kids just like me now yeah a bunch of badass kids out there yeah um okay so you were always listening to rap and everything was that was a like a big passion years just listening to music or were you

always rapping as well no I wasn't always rapping but I always listen to music like I love right so was there a lot of music in your household or where was that influence from yeah I feel like my dad like he like rap my mama like a whole bunch of like singing music I got sisters that like for me a whole type of genres my brothers for me they put me on the newest music that's dropping so I'm listening to what they're listening to shit like that So it's definitely like probably like music influences. So what was the first shit that really got you excited though? Like when you were young or what were you listened to when you were like in high school and shit?

I've been listening to like PZ future, Drake or shit like that. So I was young. I mean like just like early ages. How old are you now? I'm 22. Okay. So like, yeah.

I mean, no jumper. When this thing started, you were like, you know, 14 or something shit, 15. Just to put a perspective. Like, you know, like, when you were like first kind of getting into it, like, I was right around the time I started doing interviews, which is pretty crazy. But, okay, so what, did you got locked up and stuff when you were younger or have you mostly avoided that? I got locked up at 18. What for? For me first 18, high speed.

Okay. Got locked up again after that, but they don't want to do that shit anymore. That's the way. Well, you were just riding around with some shit in the car you didn't want to get pulled over with? No, I feel me. They don't go too much detail about it, but niggas on high speed, a whole lot of cops, a nigg got caught.

Right. How did they catch you? They threw them the strips with the spikes? Bounced out, tried to run, got caught. Oh, man. That'll do it. So how long you got locked up for? I was only down for four months for that shit.

Okay. And what was it like being locked up over there? Uh, shit. County Jail. The county jail for me, it's shit cracking. shit cracking like shit turned up I've heard like infinite

about LA County Jail shit but what's the vibe over there you gonna get your face out the way from me is gang politics everywhere so it's like that you gotta fight when you get in there Johnny Jail wow

there's a bunch of crazy motherfuckers in there a bunch of bums and shit too or is it like what's the scene like smokers it's smokers in that holding tank it's all types of shit I'm a motherfucker yeah

you meet some cool people one of that motherfucker all type of shit so those four months was it tough or how'd that go yeah that's tough but niggia a soldier so you got to thug that shit out you can't complain about it you put yourself in that predicament right so you got out and how did your life change uh when i got out uh still like still like into like what i into for me jail ain't do nothing but like teach me a lesson for me i learned the lesson for that motherfucker but nigga like at a young age for me still I was a fresh 18 when I went to jail, you get I mean So it's like at a young age

You still like your mind's still going when you get out You got I mean I got like a little I'm still young right now You get on me but I'm still a lot more mature than I was back then But a nigga still doing the same thing Caught a couple more cases, shit like that But She's not cool

You think you're just moving around too crazy Or What? You just have bad luck or what? Young, dumb Yeah Young and dumb. young and dumb what were the other cases can you say uh pistol cases

so they're on you out there like that pulling you over and shit yeah yeah you got gang tasks too really um-huh damn okay so when did the rap idea start when you first record i started rapping in 2020 uh because of the pandemic no i think i was rap because of the pandemic i think it was just something like like my whole little group i'm with like like we all like we like flashy like for me like like like like getting money like for me like we like everybody around me tell me like rap rap rap at the beginning i really didn't care about rap but i started taking a little more serious i dropped my first song my first song went up you get i mean so the first song went up my first song i went up right so it's like once i dropped that i'm

seeing like the impact i got in like my city and stuff like that i'm like damn shit maybe i maybe i Maybe I can do this for me. Maybe I can take this shit to the next level. Right. And had you ever seen anybody from Marino Valley pop off? There's niggas out there rapping and shit like that, but it's like certain levels, like it's like people ain't reached yet. So it's like I feel like even like what we're doing right now,

like we did something. We made an impact, but I'm nowhere near where I want to be. Like you know what I mean? Like it's still work to be done. Right. Yeah. I mean, but I heard you were the first rapper from Marino Valley who actually signed to a major label?

Mm-hmm. How'd that come about? Uh, shit. It's like, I was shopping around for a little bit too, before I shot, before I had signed, and it was like weighing out my options. But yeah, like around like 20, 21, like early January around then, that's like when people started like tapping in. But like, I said like March, that's like when it got serious.

Like people really ended up like, come on. Like people like different scound body. I wasn't with just taking anything, you know what I mean? Like I knew what I wanted stuff like that. And I also wanted. to feel comfortable where I was going like I wanted I wanted to get what I wanted but I also wanted to feel comfortable there too so I can continue to work there too for me instead like a so who'd you sign with 300 oh right right right and uh what was it about what they were saying that

appealed to you I just feel like like when I was meeting up with them and stuff like that like they was like one of the main ones that kept like coming like to meet up with me too like even before I signed like you need a letter you saw it I wasn't going to say anything I was going to sit here for 40 more minutes and not smoke they was making it making me feel like, that makes me feel like comfortable, what you get, I mean. So it's like, it felt like a, like a family, I'll say. Right, definitely. I mean, do you worry at all that, like, maybe a record label isn't the right decision for somebody like you who really,

you make, like, raw, hardcore street music? I never heard you put some, like, fancy choruses on shit. Like, do you feel like they're going to be beneficial to what you're trying to build? Mm-hmm. My bad. Yeah, because I feel like that was, like, one of the main reasons why I even signed with them. I feel like it would help me grow. Like, I said, like, I had been having, like, other labels, like, hitting me up,

so I could have just went with, like, or anything. But, like, I haven't felt, like, since signing with them, I've seen, like, an impact on my career, like, and, like, I said, like, a more mature mindset with, like, with this rap shit, like, they teach me, like, how to be, like, I'm a rapper, you get what I mean? But now it's, like, they develop me and being, like, an artist, you get what I mean? So it's, like, it's help. So are they trying to actually, like, you know, help you make more complicated or better songs

or, like, pop-type records, or what are they doing? To be, like, I'll be in a studio at dinner, like, every night you get, I mean. So it's like, they just let me do with me. Like, they're, like, knock out as many songs you can. Like, they like the vibe. I like the vibe. But do they give you input at all,

or, like, try to get you to, you know, slap an R&B hook on something? I got some, like, different type of shit coming out. Like, I got a project about to come out. There's some different type of shit on there, like different vibes, different type of people on there. So, like, more like melodic shit. Right, definitely. Do you ever meet Draco before he passed?

Mm-hmm. You did, where? I went on a tour when they had that Long Live Catchy tour. Right. They had brought me out on it. You were on the whole tour? No, I came out on one of the days on it. Oh, okay.

I came on in the Ventura Day. How was that beat up? I fucked with his vibe for me it was cool like it was thorough definitely yeah because like

it seems like he was a pretty big influence on you like I mean I would say that Draco's probably the most influential rapper out of L.A. in like last 10 years but definitely I could hear it in your shit that I could tell that you were like a real genuine fan of him

I feel like like with my music me personally I don't feel like my music like sound like it but I do feel like like his music was crazy though his music was dope dope as fuck and he was like

he is like one of the biggest they ever come like from like this wave right I give him that for sure for sure he's different too

because nobody ever helped him out of L.A. I mean maybe early on you can look at DJ Mustard and shit but for the most part

he was like a renegade in L.A. And L.A. is not like nobody comes up like that everybody has a support structure and people around him he had just like his homies who were all younger

than him and shit you know very few people really tried to help him out and he still was able to do more numbers during most of the time periods in his career than anybody else in LA realistically. And he was going crazy, no cat. And like, his numbers, like, he was doing like crazy numbers too. Like what?

As far as like streams, videos, shit like that, he was going up. So it's like, we got to give him credit where credit is doing. For somebody independent to get a Drakeverse. That's big too. Sometimes people honestly forget about. Some people that signed that don't even do that, you get what I mean? So it's like, that's huge. There's all these things that, like, we saw Drake are doing towards.

the end of his career that really surprised the fuck out of us like even just seeing him in nightclubs and fucking stunting with hell of chains on out and being out and about and stuff because like knowing him early on he was more to himself and like i couldn't have really imagined him doing some of the stuff that he was doing like just taking photos of drake in the club and shit it fucking blew my mind kind of yeah did it fuck you up how'd you feel when you found out he passed uh she's crazy because like that festival that he had passed at uh we had what's called I was on my way up there, like, to go up there. You were playing, like, the next day?

No, I was, like, going up there, like, on my way up there, like, to the show. Oh, you were going to watch? Yeah, no, I was going up to, like, I was backstage. Like, from me, I was in that, motherfucker. Oh, what? And then, uh, it was called, but I wasn't there, like, when, like, the altercation that happened I showed up after, but, like, just hearing that news? I was like, damn, that's crazy as fuck.

Dude, being there must have been heavy. Seek. Wow, that's fucking crazy. Do you ever think about signing the Stink Team, or was that ever discussed? No, I had never talked about that with that. Okay. Do you have relationships or anybody else from a Stink Team? I fuck with them.

I fuck with them. Like, Ralphie, that's my boy. I fuck with them. I fuck with all them niggas, no cap. They cool. I fuck with their vibe. For sure, yeah. I'd like to hear you on songs with all them dudes.

I got a couple songs with them. Oh, you do? Okay. The O-T.M. Guys and everything, or just Ralphie? I got one song with the O-TM, and then I got, I got like two songs for Ralphie. One of them is not out though.

That's what's so. Okay, so does it bother you though when you hear people comparing you to him a lot? No, I don't bother me because everybody like entire to their own opinion. I just be feeling like me personally, I don't be feeling like I rap like him. But did he influence you to be a flocker or was that just you? I don't per se that. I don't per se that like I'm a flocker. I just say that.

I like money. Right. I mean, to be real, though, there was quite a few rappers rapping about flocking and even calling it that before him, realistically. You know, it is kind of an L.A. tradition at this point, or, you know, Southern California tradition. Yeah, definitely. Okay.

I saw somewhere that said that you got flocking tattoos. I got, like, money-motivated tattoos. Okay. I got a lot of money-touching tattoos. That's what I was wondering. I got like, I got like a lot of money tattoos. I'm money motivated, though that's what motivates me to move my day. I got to get that money.

Right. Yeah, nobody's really, like, passionate about breaking in houses. I'm sure some people are, but, you know, it's all the means to an end, right? I'm trying to, nobody's trying to retire doing that. Some people love doing that. Yeah. Some people are like 30 still doing it. 30 is not that old.

There's some people like 50 still doing it, I'm sure. Some real money and that shit. At some point, though, it was going to be hard to jump up on through that window. Or is that how you do it? You just knock on the door. You got to come to demonstrate for me. Yeah? Let me come along.

Do I walk along. All right. So when you start drinking lean? I got out to you. I'm drinking. I was, so I was young. I was like 17, 18 when I started drinking lean. Okay.

And you still do it? Yeah, I'm gonna like to y'all love that shit. You do? You can't leave it alone? I'm gonna cap to you all of that shit. Really? How often you're drinking it, though? Every day or like a couple days a week?

We're going on that shit every day. Really? How many? Try to leave that shit alone, no. A deuce a day? Or, like, like, more than that? To the point where I need to leave that shit alone. Yeah.

I mean, even a deuce a day. That's a nasty habit. Really, that's so then. Soda, too. It's talking about sugar in that shit, so it's like, I should have fuck you up. Yeah. But I hear you, you seem like weirdly aware of how the drugs might affect you. You're talking about you're smoking until your lungs collapse and shit?

No, I was collared. My lungs collapsed, I was in a car accident. Oh, so that did happen? Mm-hmm. What age were you during that? Oh, shit. That was last year? Yeah.

What was the car accident about? Oh, yeah. What was that last year? That's 2021, huh? No. It was last year, but I think, at the beginning of it. It was probably like a year or so. I was at the end because I was in the hospital for like two months.

What happened? But I was, y'all remember that shot. I just remember waking up, no cap, like, I swear to God, I just remember waking up. I was crunched up under the steering one and shit. I'm trying to breathe and shit. I'm wondering why I can't push up and shit, my ribs and shit, bro. You were alone?

No, I was one of the homies. And you were on the highway, or were you like? I was on the streets when I crashed. Wow. He was good, though. It's crazy because the only thing he was a fucking, like, fucked up forehead. Yeah, like,

Bad headache for a couple days and shit But you were like real fucked up? Hospital for two months They knew you were gonna make it Or was it ever like a critical situation? Doctor just said weird shit like I'm surprised you made it That's actually just make me feel like

What the hell you mean? Surprise I made it Right Did that make you consider stopping smoking though? You think smoking is gonna affect that? I got like I tried to Like for like the first I said for like the first week and a half

Two weeks I'm like I'm not smoking Well because you couldn't smoke When you're in the hospital For two months too right? And it was like, that was like cool. Like, I'm like, because you're in there. It's like not being able to smoke weed in jail, right? I don't know if like it was cool.

It's like it's like I knew I couldn't do it. I can't just smoke in the hospital. But then you get out and it's like, you know, you know 20 people you could call to get some weed. And it's just like, oh, huh, huh. And then I'm still hanging with the homies and shit. So I'm not going to smoke. Right. But is it a health risk because of the lung condition or whatever?

I don't even know if it's a health risk because it's like, I do this shit every day. but I'm pretty sure it probably is a helper some of my lungs, no cap. Right. Damn. Yeah, the lien can't be great. Well, Lien's more of a kidney thing, right?

I drunk lean my first day out of the hospital, no cap. You didn't do it in the hospital? Shot a video and pulled up. Shot a video and pulled up. So do you have a plan for how you're going to leave it alone? Because sooner or later, everybody got to leave it alone. I'm going to take that shit one day at a time. Yeah.

One day at a motherfucker at a time. I guess that's all you can do, really. Okay, so I wanted to ask this, because I heard you say it in some songs. Like, you seem like you're real into snatching people's chains. Who got their chain snatched? People could keep their chains. I ain't snatching no chains.

No, I was just rapping? No, I ain't a lot to you, though. If you play, you need that chain snatched. Right. Seriously. I like your chain. You got, like, the rock star logo? That's pretty hard.

I get. You don't drink rock star, right? No, it's just disgusting. From like the video game and shit. Oh, yeah, it is, right? It's that rock star. From, like, you remember just play, like, Grandin' Fado and shit, like the San Andreas and shit. Right, that's the rock star gaming thing, yeah.

I was confusing. The multiple rock stars out there, yeah. You drink energy drinks, though? Leans the opposite of an energy drink. I don't know. I drink loads of water, though. You got it, bro. If you're drinking all that lean, that's a big part of it.

It's balance. You got to do something right with your body. gonna be fucking it up like that shit makes my mouth so sticky it makes me want to drink so much water but that's why i be having to drink water because like i'll be dehydrated sometimes too like when i wake up the negative day you never pour it up in the water no i've heard people talk about it yeah i seen me with it i've seen it though like um like to go viral and shit but i never try to pour up in the fiji i'll never know it tastes like uh pour pour their lean on cereal i seen a little pump do that and it was crazy because all right

picture he pours a bowl of fucking you know cheerios or whatever the fuck it was, cinnamon toast crunch, and then he pours a lot of fucking lean on it. And keep in mind, like, everybody in the room is not as rich as him. Everybody in the room wants to be fucking pouring up at this moment, but not everybody got enough money or whatever. So I'm not going to lie, after he left the room,

there was still just a bowl of cereal with hella raw lean on it. And a few of us just, like, went up and grabbed a spoon and we just like ate a couple bitefuls of it. And I was feeling it, too. Like, it felt good as fuck. It was like I was drinking raw right out the bottle. but with some cereal mixed I mean I'm not too proud

Oh so with it no milk just cereal? Cereal and lean Okay okay Yeah I'm gonna like you I'll taste it straight raw At the bottle too You do?

How does that taste? It's like For one that's like I know the taste For one so that's one reason Why I do it Right And for two

I don't know It's like give me like a little I feel like give me like a little instant A little instant high I always see Deso Dub doing that But I feel like he's caping And he's just pretending No I don't go crazy

That shit like I I don't just drink two lines straight out the bottle or buy it for me. Get my lip wet. Yeah, that's way too much if you're just fucking taking shots of it. It's not meant to be done that way. Some niggins will probably do that shit. As soon as lean turns into like a contest of who can drink the most of lean, that's when you know you're in trouble.

Because I've known a lot of people throughout the years who drink lean for 10 years. And then one of their homies gets rich or whatever and they're on tour and they got like a ton of lean around them. and that's when they get addicted and they get sick. Because, like, normal people can't even afford leaning, never mind enough to fucking get you super addicted, you know? But I ain't going to lie to you. I don't feel like it'd be a competition, but we'll pour that shit heavy.

Like, it'll be one day we'd be like, we're going to pull eight. You ain't really trying to pull a pint. We're going to pull a pint. You ain't really trying to pull a pint. You know, a nigger really do that shit. I don't feel like it'd be a competition because we're going to all pull that shit like me and the homie.

Yeah. We're going to throw that shit. But, you know, do you nigger overdo it oh yeah like i mean because there's a lot of different levels to drink and lean too because i remember i always remember this video of mac miller in the studio with french montana and mac miller had poured up this this two-liter and it was like black with lean it was like the darkest shit i never seen i mean i probably have but i've seen very few people to pour up like that in my life and french who i think at that point had already been drinking

lean for mad long and like wasn't really doing it anymore he's like telling mac miller like yo you got to chill like that is that's not how you do it that's too much he's telling me he's crazy oh no so you're you're part of his team what do you do yeah just part of the team like what kind of shit do you make happen uh shit nothing just make it look good i guess really how did you guys get connected my boy i've been knowing my boy for a long time it's like i'm gonna start when we when we go like we keep every like every like step by tape for me level shit I still try to keep like the same people around I started with my real people around so it's like the ones that I know that's really thorough

really the ones I really fuck with for sure how did you mean S5 because everybody always mentions you guys in the same sense uh I'm at s5 like I mean S five like I mean five years back like but we've been around each other for like since we met each other we've been around each like you had clicked immediately mm-hmm I was like my little bro from the jump. Where's your name come from? And where's his name come from? Because they're like the same format. It's like number letter. That's just like where he gets called like where he's at. That's why I get called where I'm at shit like that. My people just been calling me this like for years like so it stuck.

Is there like an R4? Yeah. Really? That's my little bro. That's how you'll do it? That's my little bro. Because they told me it'll be like, you know, baby mass. infant Mac like tiny like they got like a whole hierarchy of like you know different gang names like that and I find it very strange as soon as you're like infant I mean that's does anyone really want to be that some people don't want to be that I think they need more than one name some people want to be that because you can't be introducing yourself to a girl and be like hi I'm infant look I mean you could you got to you might got to do that with you you can't

You can't trust, you might not. Depending on the girl, she might actually love it, yeah. You might not be able to give her your name. But if you got your girl, the other one that's yours, she's going to know your name. You got a girl? I got, I'm dating right now. Waring out my option, but I'm dating right now. Somebody you've been knowing for a long-ass time or somebody that's new?

I'm known for like a little minute. Is she worried that with all the newfound rap fame that you might switch up? I should play a part She's supposed to do She takes care of She's supposed to take care of I take care of What do you need from a woman

At this point in your life though Just to like really understand When I come with I come with a lot But I don't be trying to cause a lot But it just happens You get what I mean I mean

I mean you're moving around In a lot of situations You know If a girl's gonna trust you As a rapper or a celebrity or whatever It's like You know You're going to be in a lot of situations.

There's a lot of girls around. They're going to have to trust you or not care that you're fucking. It's a tough role that she in, but it's a tough road. I'm in, too, you get it. It's like, best for any one minute. Any dude that's rapping, you get I mean, like, whatever they got going on. Different people make out different, understands, and understanders and, like, what they got going on, you know what they got going on. You know what I mean?

But, yeah, like, for the most part, she's playing a role. For sure. How much does fashion? matter when you're like trying to make it as a rapper because you got the most glittery shoes i ever seen in my life i'm just you look at these or you don't know i fuck with him what brand is it alexander mclean okay now i like fashion a lot i've been in the fashion like my whole life before rap but i feel like fashion do play a big part in rap like you feel me like you're rapping by jib you don't got no jip what you're rapping by jip for so it's like i feel like it do play like a big

role but i love the fashion everybody around me they love the fashion too like my group around me they love a fashion too they'd be throwing that shit on see he got that shit on he came through with the chrome hearts this north face what's that pattern call what we're gonna call that hounds tooth is that supreme that's amazing if I guessed it that's supreme where's the supreme logo at on the hood ah okay here we go I busted the supreme out today too every day I wear a different black hoodie this one costs like $800 I'm not really sure why No, but. It's probably a limited edition one.

Yeah, it's just tough to get your hands on, I guess, at a certain point. But if it's super rare and it's still only $800, that's kind of crazy to me. Because, like, you could buy a Gucci hoodie right now that just came out for $800. But you got to think about, like, some of the Supreme, like, the hoodies and shit. Yeah. You could probably get something from, like, 100 or two. I fuck with Supreme, too, though, tough. Yeah?

Hell yeah. What's your favorite brands when it's time to get drippy? Mm. I like Rick on. I like Louisville. huh I like shit like that for sure how are you getting beats at this point in your career like who's your favorite producers to work with I'll be accepting beats from like everybody right now but I still got like like a solid base to like I still like to fuck what you get on

me like producer group around me like a select few that I fuck with heavy heavy but I still be taking beats from everyone still be rapping on like new beat too like from producers that like I never wrapped them before developing like new relationships where like producers too but like for the most part I got like a produce name Run that Back West a producer name Angel Evancent

and then I've been fucking going Ron Ron Tough too Oh really That's what so Yeah Do you um Like

Were you coming out to L.A. fairly often when you were a kid Or was like a totally different fucking universe Uh Like My mom's from L.A. I got family members from L.A. And shit like that

So like I'd have been out here But like my growing up My upbringing is like where I'm from, like, Reno Valley. So it's like, I was primarily out there all the time. Like, that's where I'm stationed at. But, like, I've been to L.A. and stuff like that for me. I got family members out here.

Right. Untie, stuff like that. But do you, could you see yourself moving out here? Or do you feel like you're focused on staying out where you're from? Uh, no, I like the senior out here. I like, it's cool. Like, I just moved, like, into a place recently, like, in a place that I liked, like, in an area. So it's like.

where i'm at i feel like that's like the best place for me right that's what's up so what do you uh plan in terms of upcoming stuff you get you focused on projects you focused on dropping individual music videos i got a single about the drop on uh on february 8 of my project and that's like the the first single from like the project that's about to drop the project i ain't gonna say like the date yet but there's some crazy shit on there i feel like it's about my best project yet so far that's what's up yeah how do you feel like you're growing on each project like what's what you're What is the thing that like changes between each project just getting better refining your flow? I feel like Like perfecting like trying to perfect certain stuff like I feel like it's not even all the way perfected yet

But I feel like trying to perfect certain stuff Like better better bars better metaphors like better flows like better rhythms getting like beats that I fuck with even even harder than I fuck with off the last project shit like that So it's like I feel like everything got to grow as time. I'm gross, you gotta grow too, you feel me? Like, everything's evolved and you gotta evolve too. Right. I feel like, I feel like the best way I'd be describing, I feel like my music is starting like mature more and more and more,

but I don't feel like I'm at the best point I can get yet. Right. That's what's what's up. What do we need to know about him to let us know why he's going to be a star? Not that he isn't already, but. See, he just got it in on really his work ethic. He wants it. So if you want something, you know, you can get it.

Just got to keep going at it, and that's what he does. Do you want to tell us anything else about him that's, like, secret or revealing? Not really, don't. Do you got any hobbies that we need to know about or anything? You go fishing? I like the studio. I feel like the studio is really like my hobby. Really?

And I don't got nothing to do, or even when I do got stuff to do. It's like, I like to be up in the studio. And that's, like, my place to think, too. Like, I could be in a studio recording for hours, or I can even just sit in the studio, and I even be recording, like, I just be feeling like... It's like a vibe for me. It's like therapeutic.

Do you have your own studio or you just, you have one you rent? I got a main studio like that I'd be going to. But I go to like different studios too, though. But I'm trying to put one in my house right now. When I'm not trying to, I am putting one in my house right now. Do you think that'll change the vibe when you can just record whenever? I just need to learn how to record myself. Once I do that, I feel like it's over.

Yeah. I have seen it be kind of weird for people though because like going to the studio is this big thing. Like they're going to the club. They get dressed. They got their shit. They're going to the studio. And then they build a studio in the crib, and it kind of, it's different. You can just roll out of bed and record.

Yeah, I'll still be sending it to my engineer to, like, mix it and shit like that. But, like, recording if I learned how to record myself, I'm going to be recording every day all day. Like, you ain't going to be able to give me a leave out that motherfucker partly. Right. That's what's up. All right. Anybody you want to shout out? Anything we need to know before we wrap us up?

Shout out YTB. Shout out of Mironov. because I love my city. Shout out my son because that's my boy. How old? Two. Nice. I got a two-year-old, too.

And shout out. Everybody that gets money. Shout out the bad bitches. Shout out to the bad bitches. If there's any out there, drop a comment. There got to be something out there if y'all watching the kid. How'd you become the chilly man, though? I forgot to ask about that part.

That's like a term that we use for money, you know what I mean? So it's like, art through the money man, art through the chili man. Do people ever try to make jokes about the chili thing, though? Is there anything good that you can do with the chili thing? I don't feel like, I don't hear no jokes. But like, it's like a normal word for it, you got to me. So it's like, I don't really see like no jokes.

Even like my fans and shit like that. Like I fuck with them tough because I'd be seeing like their little Instagram name changed to like woo-to-woo the chili man or woo-oo-oo-a-oo-chilly girl and stuff like that. I got a chili joke for you. Your mom is so stupid That someone told her it was chilly outside And she went and got a bowl And they told her that it was chilly outside

She's gonna go get dressed Because she'd know the kid outside I don't know why I remember that joke From when I was like eight years old But literally yesterday it was cold as fuck And I said that joke And my girl just looked at me like You were fucking 800 years old

Like what is this joke? Not about For real for real It's crazy because my project It's called Chili Season It's that chili season, no cap. It's that one. I feel like it's going to take it to the next level.

And then after that, I'm going to try to take it to the next, next level. And then keep doing that. There it is. Well, I appreciate you. I appreciate you for having me, no cap. Yeah, thanks for coming in, filling us in on what's going on. And I wish you nothing but the best going forward. I wish you the best.

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