No Jumper - Rainwater Goes Off on Charleston White, Yella Beezy Beef & Wack100 Shows Up

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

Rainwater talks about MO3, his career rise in Dallas, street politics vs business, beef with Wack and more! 0:00 Intro "I wish Wack was here!" - Rainwater 0:15 Adam was made aware of their interaction/beef on Clubhouse, so Adam was trying not to have them cross paths but looks like Rainwater wanted to see him + Their issues started at Billboard Awards about MO3 and Blueface 2:55 Rainwater gets on Adam about what he's doing with Lena: "Clap for Adam I don't know how you do it!" 3:49 "I grew up running trains on women, in high school I was the train man" - Rainwater 4:55 Rainwater used to get girls on back pages, says they have low self-esteem so you can sell them a "dream" 5:16 Rainwater used fake money to pay for h jobs  6:05 Rainwater says all these women were dumb black women  11:45 Rainwater was there with MO3 for his No Jumper interview, MO3 waited for Young Dolph to come in to do his interview that same day coz he was a fan  13:00 Charleson White was a pain to work with, says he realized White's reputation was blocking MO3 blessings  16:08 Charleson White got b up twice this month + Knowing that he can get touched makes him a target now 16:35 Charleson White sh*t himself inside a club, fell asleep at the wheel, went to jail for that, and before the clout he was trolling the cops saying he wanted them "deleted", Rainwater says the internet created a monster  18:15 Charleson White turned down Adam interview coz Adam is not racist  21:15 Rainwater says cities are only popular when rappers are getting "deleted"  22:25 Rainwater says Adam tanked Tony Willrich's career by confronting him with real Crips 24:27 Say Cheese and Sean kept saying whoop this, whoop that: "STFU!!" 25:32 Adam talks about reaction videos doing more views than the original interviews  28:09 More posthumous MO3 albums on the way, says ppl started checking him after he passed, Von, MO3, Pop Smoke all had star power after they passed 29:39 Pain music will always thrive, you can't be a killer for life, you have to slow down and pay bills at some point  31:50 Rainwater says the label helped Von get deleted  32:42 Wack barges in the interview! "Yall tryna set me up?" 33:33 Rainwater says he's not messing with no more black girls, it always gets you in trouble w their brothers, cousin or something  48:20 Rainwater met MO3 2 days after getting outta jail, he had no place to stay, he brought him home, helped him, believed in him, never had a contract, they always split everything, no issues ever  49:45 After he passed, Rainwater had to pay back taxes  53:35 Some MO3 beefs we impacting Rainwater as well, they all know each other, most were jealous of MO3 coz he could beat you up and made better music than most  1:04:25 When you work with rappers you inherit their beefs  1:13:00 Rainwater says MO3 didn't pass on some rap beef, but because of a jealous baby daddy  1:16:05 Rainwater says they signed Freddo bang just coz he had beef with Youngboy, now he has issues with his label 1:19:05 Rainwater says Chicago is evil!  1:19:15 Adam remembers the beef between Trippie and 6ix9ine, at the time 6ix9ine was smaller, but when he became big, then Trippie started to beef back years later  1:23:27 Adam will NOT spend 500k for a Youngboy interview 1:27:05 "Youngboy made it popular to have Herpes" + Says he has the same impact as 2Pac to the new generation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No drummer, coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here with the rainwater. And you just said, I wish whack was here. I wish whack was here. And so I didn't realize until this morning, as I was like continuing to sort of go deeper and deeper down the rainwater wormhole on YouTube,

I didn't realize you guys had issues. Yeah. He's supposed to be the next episode after this. He's supposed to be here in like an hour or two. Wrang him. So I already texted security. And I was like, yo, I don't think if they run into each other

is going to be any, like, crazy shit, but we should definitely keep an eye on the situation. Okay. So I don't know. Like, just so you know. That is a possibility that we could get you guys having a conversation in here. I'm sure he would love it.

Man, that'll be some legendary. It's going to be five hours. Because we did a lot of arguing on Snapchat. I mean, not Snapchat. Clubhouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He made the ratings go up, you know.

I bought a car off his ratings going up. Really? Yeah. side streamed up. But, you know, they're outside, you know, they went, they wouldn't go. So explain that situation to me. Is this how you guys first had issues with each other? Yeah, because I'm at the Grammys or the Billboard Awards.

They called me, they say, whack wanted to talk to you. So I'm like, okay. So I get on Clubhouse, he's like, tell them rain, water, tell him rain that my son outside, but Mo three, there's the reason why Mo three outside did numbers. Let me see it. Like, nah. he thought blue-faced version did better than M-O-3 version. That wasn't the case.

So he was just talking out of his ass? Man, he was talking, but he can convince anybody anytime we get to talk. He gets to talk, he convinced anybody. See, right now, I was double platinum. Yeah. I think there's gold. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, he has a way about him where I'll start to start just really just talking over you to the point where it doesn't really matter if you're factually correct. Something I deal with a lot. Yeah. I spend plenty of nights twisting and turning thinking about whack. Right. Oh, yeah.

What's that like, though? Like, those late clubhouse nights. Like, I never really got into that way of life. Whack can say one word and have 100 people be totally against you. He can completely make up anything and have 100 people totally against him. They'll just turn it in your name, torn itch your name, torn it's your name, torn it's your name. That's crazy. Yeah.

It's crazy that I don't interact with that part of his life because I just don't ever do the clubhouse thing. I just talk to him on here. read the comments. Yeah, yeah. You're what the comments are like. They'll be getting you. I think they like the dynamic with me and him because I'm kind of more like, I seem really normal and like there's like a regular guy compared to him.

And then he's just like hitting me with the craziest and I got to figure out how to deal with it. And then I hit him with a lot of crazy shit too. Now, you do a lot of crazy shit. Yeah. He do a lot of crazy shit. I'm going to get this out the way, okay? I don't know how you do it. Right?

I don't know how you do it with the whole wife situation. See, listen. I got the fleshlight right there. You want to hit the bathroom? No, no, listen, I'm tender dick. You hear me? Tender dick? Man, you bet not even like my, my, my girlfriend pitcher.

You hear me? I ain't, I ain't nothing. I listen. I ain't nothing but I know keeping it pee and nothing like that. I don't know how you do it. Right. Yeah, I'm living on the edge. Everybody give a hand clap to an album.

I don't know how you do it. I think I was built different. You are? Yeah. You don't give a. I'm viral. a different level. Yeah, yeah.

That means more than anything. Yeah, you're right. Just being able to make the headlines. Yeah, you're right. I understand that. We're just having a good time. Just getting a little freaky for the people out there. Yeah.

You ain't on a freak shit? Nah, yeah, no, no, no. I grew up running trains on women. How's that going? No, that was my high school. I was a train man. You had to hang that up at some point? I stole kitchen feelings.

What number would you typically go? Would you be, like, fighting to get to the front of the line? Oh, yeah, I got to go first. Really? Man, because at least I had some big nasty around me. They ain't watched their ass. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If a girl had a train get ran through her, she don't give her down what the bow smell like or nothing. Yeah, in the streets, I totally agree. Howard argued is a little different. Yeah. But in general, in real life, it's usually a pretty wild scenario. Yeah, yeah, in the South, they don't get a fuck. We used to find girls off Craigslist who were down with that. Craigless?

Yeah. Man, I was a back page. Yeah, I never got into that. And a chat line. Really? Who you're going to chat line and make your voice deep? Make you sing like a totally different person.

How many times do you think you paid for the back page? No, I wasn't the one paying page. What were you doing? Selling it? No, no, no, no. And girls on there? I sell a dream and make them think, I sell a dream to a girl on back page.

Yeah. What kind of dream? You get the requirements for free. Yeah, I get the requirements for free. Because a woman on back page had low-step esteem. Really? I'm just telling what they want to hear. Great, you still over there with this.

Dude, come on, man. I'm going to put you on music videos. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. Yeah. Being able to riz up a dude online is pretty crazy. Right. Then, listen.

When I was broke, when I was broke in 2013, listen, I used to get counterfeit $100 bills. Mm-hmm. And I go get my, I'll get my jet off 10 times a day for $40. And I make them give me change. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So I have a $1,000 worth of $100. Fake $100 bills.

I go in there, get $40. They give me $60 back. I leave the day for $600. 10 hand jobs a day. Man, I was a beast. I never heard something like that. I was a beast.

Listen, down south, we had nothing else to do. It was hot outside. You had nothing else to do? So you get 10 hands a day while laundering counterfeit money? That was my job. At a 60% exchange rate or 40% interest. That was my job.

But you're investing it back into that Asian hand job community, I guess. Right, that was my job. No, no, no, I was going straight. They weren't Asian. Backpage. Oh, right, right. That was dumb black women. I can't say that.

They never looked at the $100 bills. What the fuck? So it was all black women giving hand jobs on Backpage? Yes. What the fuck? The whole world out there, I don't know about it. Oh, my God. This is common sh** in Dallas?

Have you ever peed after they're getting 10 black hands jobs? Oh, it hurts so bad. Honestly, no, I've kind of, the hand thing kind of went the way of the dodo for me. I mean, it's just at a certain point you move on to the top, you move on to the vagina, perhaps even the bugle. I mean, that's more my style. Yeah, yeah, I see. But there's a fine art to the hand, especially if they start spitting on it and create all kinds of. No, you can't have spit on there when you go to a back page woman.

You better not put no spit on it. Listen, listen. Listen. I'm about some Lou. Yeah, no, I can't do it. this. I came from the jailhouse in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? I like my shit. Dry. Yeah.

Hmm. I guess. Oh, now you're talking about dry hand job. Yeah, dry hand job. Not dry. Yeah, dry. I mean, I feel like you're more likely to encounter like chafing. Yeah. You ever beat the, so hard the bleeds. Getting 10 hand jobs a day, you've got to have some chafing and some blood. Hell no. No? Oh, yeah, no. You with a little cut? Oh, yeah, that hurts.

You ever used to do coke? No, no, hell not. Off the Coke, for sure. I've gotten like an abrasion on my from fucking chick for so long. Just life. You was the whole star. I used to be on some different. Before you did this?

Well, I was for free, like way too much. Yeah. I remember I got a girlfriend. And then she went out of town for a week. And she came back and we took ecstasy together. And then after we had sex, she went through my phone and she found, evidence of me like a different girl every day that she was gone throughout the whole week that she was gone and she smashed my phone and that was pretty much the end of love. I just fell in love with a girl on the only fans.

Really? I met her like three months ago after two weeks, I fell in love with him. You hear me? The nastiest you're going to ever meet. You hear me? And sexy, right? I even helped to get a house everything

until I went through her phone and realized this girl do this for a living really so I asked her for my money back so Adam I asked for my money back because you forgot I'm tender dick

I found out she was fucking out of her phone so I asked her for my money back she didn't get my money back so I called the housing from the rental house she was using and I said I want to let y'all know

this girl is using the CPN and she's living under the CPN. What is the CPN? It's just a fake identification that people use down south. Okay. Police came, took her to jail. She had to move out of the house.

All she had to do is get my money back out of. You don't think that that is snitching? Yeah, I don't give it down. Don't trust no Onlyfans. Because what she did, it took my money and go for somebody else. there's aggravated robbery. But that sounds like it's kind of like a whole different level

because she's kind of doing like a, it's almost like identity fraud. Yeah, that's what it was. She's like the lover boy method. But it's the opposite. It's the lover girl method. Yeah. Or you like act like you're in love with the girl

in order to like get them to basically like be under your control. Like I feel like a girl doing that. It's kind of like a different thing. That's aggravated robbery. Yeah. It's aggravated robbery. That's crazy. I would have thought that you were like a married man all settled down and everything.

No, not this business we got No Man, ain't no woman Go marry somebody in this business Really? I mean, you'll be out If a woman married If a woman married up someone in this business right now

She only around for your money Mm-hmm You're touching flights every week going This place, this place In the club every night Ain't no real woman goes to settle for that Because, okay, I'm going to be real with you When I listen to Rainwater

Just straight, elaborate about the hustle I get very motivated That's one of the things I really like about your interviews like that is that you're just really prophesizing about the hustle and being outside. And like when you're talking about why you're like Big X the plug, you're just like he's outside. He's at the after hours. He's mingling with the people. And I like that because from my perspective, I suck at that for the last few years.

And primarily because through making this kind of content, I get to just sit here and reach a huge fucking audience. And I take it for granted that I don't have to jump on a play. and go to Dallas and touch the strip clubs in Dallas and go to Atlanta and be around all these guys and everything like that. And I realize, though, that at the end of the day, in the rap game, your relationships are kind of everything. And you got to touch the soil. I'm going to leave here. Go to San Francisco to the Empire, Christian Florida. Leave there tonight. I'm going to be there tonight. Go to Vegas and go back to Dallas.

What are you doing in Vegas? I'm getting ready for Super Bowl. Oh, okay. People forgot about something. I don't even know that that's happening until like the day before. Why don't you go from city to city and do a live podcast and charge $40 to get in? We've done that. It's all right.

What do you think about Big X? He's tight. He's obese, but he's a good rapper. Yeah. Do you remember today when Mo3 was here at the other builder? Okay, so I was going to ask, were you there that day? Yeah. Then Dolph and Keegh like came?

Yes. And I always tell people about that memory because after Mo3 got done his interview, and Mo3 is already pretty big at that point, but he was a huge dolphin. fan and I mentioned to him that Dolph was about to come in and do the interview next and Dolph and Kieglock were running late but then so Mo3 just stuck around

and was like pretty hyped to take a picture with him and so it was kind of tight to see him on more of like a fan level because he was just such a Dolph fan that he was just really. Yeah nobody knew that but you I always I always wondered that you remember I think we stayed an extra 40 minutes yeah yeah and Dauve pulled up in the back he was

and then you fast forward like two years and they're both gone I know fucking terrible It's the streets. No, they blame Empire, but they're stupid. So crazy. I mean, Empire, if anything, they just take their chances or their business model incorporates a lot of dudes who are high risk, let's say. Right, right, because nobody else was taking risk on a three. You could do the same thing with me.

You could post a picture of me with like 50 rappers who died. Those are the dudes that I interview oftentimes are the ones who are kind of out there taking risk. Damn. Let's be real. Right. Same with you. If you manage 100 artists during your career, I mean, from what I've seen from you so far, they tend to be more street artists. No, I'm done with that. You're over that. I say that every time, but, you know, like I told, man, you know, I rolled around with Charles and the wife for a little bit, and it f*** me for a year. How long was that?

You know, 22. Why did you roll around with him? I thought he was a good person. I thought he was going to help me get good with the community. Okay. And, you know, we kicked it for a minute. You know, we went everywhere around the world. And then I was there when he was a soldier boy. Then we went to rolling out.

Where he maced him. He maced him. Then I went to rolling loud. Then I went to over there with Dirk with him. And I started realizing that nobody gets on Mo3 album for free because of Charleston White. Oh. So I kind of try to cut ties with him. That's how I made Mama Duck.

My Mug came to my dog. house, you know, I tried to cut ties with him, but then everywhere I went, everybody was like, we're charing it, we're charing it, we're charing it, we're charing it. So, I called Dubert. I said, say, tell that b-uh, don't mention no more three. Or I'm gonna end his whole career.

Three days later. Mo three. This, that, that. Let the whole world know he ain't with me. Now, everybody's thought calling my phone, get no more three out for free. Really? Yeah. What the fuck?

I control him. Because Charleston White is kind of like the Donald Trump of hip hop, where he's like so controversial, people cannot look away from him, but at the same time, a large percentage of the stuff that is coming out of his mouth from time to time is very offensive and way over the line. He's a nerd.

Right. He's a nerd that finally got attention. Right. You see him throwing the flowers. He's like an angry nerd. But the thing about Charles, in white is that when he was young, he wouldn't have been able to monetize his personality. But the world that we live in now where being able to do a say cheese interview is going to get you, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars if you're him and then you can go do interviews with all these other smaller platforms or whatever.

He's like really easily monetizing the fact that he's good at just coming up with takes about shit off the top of his head, even though he's probably not professional enough to exist. in a fucking ESPN office or like do sports center or something more professional. Every time he get on a high platform, he fuck himself. We get a lot of big attention. Like the Aiden,

man, that was a perfect thing for him. Then he went on tour with the T.K. Kirkman's like he's going to fucking. He's not used to the attention. Yeah. What do you blame him for?

You think he's just fucked up or is it because he's like a hood dude? No, it's like a nerd that finally got the attention in the classroom. Have you ever seen a nerd and the teacher say, okay, you're my assistant. And they just, oh, he was talking. He was talking.

He's not working. They finally got the attention that he need. And what he did was it was so perfect, he used the police to keep everybody from whooping his ass. So by saying that he would snitch, he kind of stops a lot of the real gangster dudes from even thinking about it. He got beat up twice this month. This month, I thought it was just the one time.

No, no, no, in the barbiture. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They came in there whooped his ass. So he's really a target like that? Now he is because now they know he can get touched. See, at first they left him alone. Charles was going to walk past somebody and they'd be like, oh, I'm leaving him alone.

He'll call the police. But not knowing, in Texas, the police is really trying to take him to jail. They don't with him. No, they're trying to take him to jail. Why? He shot himself first of all. Inside the club. Then two weeks later, he went back to the club,

fell asleep at the light, drunk. They took him to jail. and, you know, like, growing, before he started the internet, he was talking about every police officer, white police officer, he won't dead. So nobody knows that. So then when he got the attention to keep him off his ass,

he looked like he was on the police side. They don't like him. I went, like going to high schools. We started going to high schools, me and Sean Kaan were going to high schools with him. We went to one middle school. After we left the middle school, the parents were calling.

Don't allow him up there no more. little girl's daddies with calling, Colin, Colin. Then they finally said he's no longer allowed in four school districts. Did he do anything at the school, or was just because of his past comments? Past comments and the things that he do. Like I said, he's a nerd, nerd. So he never ever got the attention he wants.

So, you know, he's in the hallways, interact with the kids. Come on, man, you're a grown man. Right. Because I remember realizing how bad it was for him when academics booked a live show with him in New York City. And I'm pretty sure it sold out instantly. which says a lot about his star power. But then pretty quickly, his comments about Asian women,

like Chinaman, pushed those comments to the surface and told people on his Instagram story to contact the venue and stuff. And boom, the show's canceled. He's basically blacklisted from doing anything with these big professional booking agencies, I believe. Yeah. But y'all made, y'all curated this monster? The world created this monster.

For the record, I tried to interview him. And his commentary was basically like, I don't like white boys who love black dudes about me. He's like, that's not my kind of white boy, which I thought was hilarious. He was like, I like my white boys a little racist, something like that. I was like, well, I mean, I guess I'll take it. Do people call you to police? A little bit here and there, you know.

Because I'll just like ask the craziest question ever just to, like, some shit that I know the dude is not going to answer. And then they won't answer, but it'll be like a funny moment. We're both kind of like laughing about it. Like that and then people try to like act as if I thought this dude was really going to tell me You know, I'll be like, so you really put a hit on so-and-so? It's just funny because it's like if it's already like out there like people already have like mentioned this kind of thing or whatever They're obviously not going to answer seriously they're just going to laugh and it's going to be like a moment And you ever asked somebody that?

I don't think I've actually asked that but like along those lines That kind of Now we talk about hits What you think? Why are you to add get down to the nitty gritty with head punk? Half pint? Wow, what was the need of goody? You know, you spoke on the yellow situation a little bit. Okay.

You switched to me, you know, how he felt like had rainwater and trapboard? Uh-huh. And then, like, he kind of bored the situation. But he avoided talking about you? Uh-huh. Yeah, he avoided talking about me. Why, you guys got issues? Nah, you got no issues.

I'm out of the loop. I don't know about the Dallas deep-seated drama. I just try to, man, listen, I just try to eliminate all the negative situations. Uh-huh. You know. So half-pints a negative situation? Uh, he creates negative situation. know one thing he did was he went from one person beefing.

Do you know who Go Yeo is? Oh, yeah. He went from Go Yeo beefing with this person to this person, shot this man video, then go back and shoot this man video. If they dissing, he'd go back and shoot this man at a big video. And it makes the whole city into a roar. You know what I'm saying? But somebody was going to shoot those music videos.

I understand that, but don't be the one because at the end of the day, he came on this and said Dallas music scene is dead right now. And he made a big concern about Dallas. He said that on the jumper, right? And so, you know, only reason people feel like the Dallas rap scene is dead right now because it's no more killing. I mean, a lot of cities in America, there's like a correlation between the amount of attention to the music and the level of violence that's going on between people in the music and like their associated gangs. So you're with me though. So listen, that's the reason why he says the music dead.

But every city that's hot right now, they're killing me. other. If somebody from O'Block get killed tomorrow and the 63 people's door is repping it, Chicago is back to number one. Baton Rouge. They only got hot because people was dying. Memphis. People was dying. Miami don't have no rappers because no one's dying. Crazy. L.A. don't have no rappers because nobody was dying, but you take it back to 20 years ago, it was hot. Whereas we're all talking about a random-ass city like Jacksonville just because there's a bunch of crazy-ass violence associated with it.

Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, that's the time. That's the time. So when people get to dine, it bring money to hip-hop to their city. It's an ugly way of thinking about it, but I guess you're right. It's the truth. Yeah.

We live in the evil as business. So are you saying that Halfbine Films is like basically encouraging this for his own benefit? Or do you think he's just saying what's real? I mean, he's encouraging for his own benefit because if three people die tomorrow has to do some for some rap then they're excited by the hip hop from Dallas now right they're going to go film this video they're going to film this video now the world is saying the world is saying you you're looking into it or they beefing it out of so-and-so

got shot right you know what I'm saying so yeah I mean you know you know it's all it's for their own benefits but you know other people don't give the small people a chance and the people who's not beefing a chance one thing I do like about big Biggast's not beefing with nobody. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Biggat's not beefing nobody. So for a person sit there and say,

the music scene in Dallas Day, we got, we have a star. Right. You know, until I get active. You're talking about Tony Wilrich? Hell not. That's a star.

No, you killed his career. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, if you're from Fort Worth, Texas, you know, why you ain't going to shoot no video for Tony? That's your style. Listen, everybody, ladies and gentlemen,

ladies and gentlemen, Dallas, Texas, I mean, Fort Worth, Texas. Adam fucked up Tony's career. Elaborate. Explain how that worked. You brought real crips to the platform. And Tony didn't know what the fuck to say and what the fuck to do.

Right. He didn't know the background of being a crypt at all. That really exposed to the mind. Oh, my God. But you've been watching for a while. He wasn't really, like, focused on pushing this gangster image for a long time, right? It was his manager. Oh, really?

The same dude who was managing Go Yeo. When your MO-3 and Go-Yeaio got into it. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, it became pretty obvious, pretty quick, that his cripping, was, and his knowledge of the streets and stuff was pretty limited. And as a result, people slowly started

to realize, like, oh, this is just kind of like a regular gay guy. Now, he's funny as fuck, but let's be real, the average, like, hip-hop consumer is probably not dying to watch just like a random gay dude. They were tuned in for the idea of a gay crip. Man, you ruined him. After he left,

he went to the internet and said, I am no longer cripping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I sit there and ask this people as matters. Why would you put him on in front of Adam? I wasn't even there for the record. It was Brick Baby and Crick Mac. But then he came to you one time, too. And then we did one

yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I mean, you know, he got two. Those are his glasses right there. Are you kept his glasses? He gave him to us as a souvenir, yeah. It's part of, I'm starting like a no-jumper history museum of like all just random objects from people. Like, we interviewed a Chicago rapper named Lil Marcus last night and he left a bag of shake.

I think I'm going to put that in the museum. Just like some... Oh, you get an award? Yeah, Jason Lee gave me the Mandingo of the Year award. Mandingo Hall of Fame. And you got some whoops? Oh, that's a badass trophy cap. You fucking with the whoops?

I ain't never tasted them. Yeah. I did a shun cotton podcast yesterday, and they kept saying, whoop this, whoop that, whoop this. Shut the fuck up. You don't like it? Huh? They just, shit.

The thing about somebody like Jay Main is that if you're going to, like, come up off a catchphrase, You kind of always got to be working for that next catchphrase and like the next viral skit. Like you look at Drusky, that's the goat of like making skits and doing comedy coming up online. Because he's not only been hot. He been hot as fuck for like three years. And like every time he comes out with a skit, that shit will get hundreds of thousands of likes on Twitter, go viral on every fucking page. I think Jay Main needs to think of himself more like a comedian, more like a Druski.

And he needs to be in the lab writing jokes. and like working on material. I think is he rapping? Yeah, I think that's probably a waste of time. Yeah, go kill him. Yes. This podcast took over rapping. You're more famous than some of the rapper.

I bet you get more views in some of these rappers. True. But sometimes, like, you know, yesterday, did you see the storyline about the guy who was the top spender on Ruby Rose's Onlyfans? He spent $62,000. So I interviewed him, and he revealed that that was all cap. There was all like an OnlyFans marketing stunt, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, there's one YouTuber, this guy named Moist Critical, and he made a video reacting to my video. My video has 100,000 views. His video has 2 million views on YouTube. So it is kind of weird though sometimes. As a YouTube content creator, it's different than the music. With the music, every time it gets played, you get paid. As a podcaster, nowadays you have these crazy moments

and they kind of just get aggregated onto a million different pages, which is cool from like a fame perspective. Right. But it does feel a little weird. No, truck drivers, they look at the whole podcast. Yeah, true. But that's why if you really want to, like, kill it and make your podcast indispensable, you kind of need to have, like, really high quality, long content

because you can't put an hour-long podcast on TikTok. Right. You know? Right. But it's crazy how competitive that world is and how hard we all go now with the titles and the thumbnails and everything to make shit as appetizing as possible to the people. Whereas when I think about it, Back in the day, we used to just put shit out, and that was it.

We didn't put the title. So you making my money now? Yeah, but it's way more work and way more of a challenge, I would say now. Because the market is so flooded. Now, you're a star now. You've got more store pal of any rappers. The question is, what do you do with that Starfire? Because I'm listening to you talk about book and shows and how there's a rapper.

You need to be doing this, this and this to just get every last dollar. And I'm kind of like, fuck, man. Maybe I need to just really be in the field. Listen, I'm an animal making money. So I flew down here for free, right? Okay. And shout out to Teddy T. Teddy Tee.

Go be the number one star in the world. Y'all got to take out Teddy Tee. He's upcoming, boom. So this is what I did. This is what I did. I charge everybody $500 to shout him out on here. I got about six more names to do them. Oh.

T-T-O-D bumper Johnson, man. I see you out there working. You know what I'm saying? That's how you mind says. Ooh, I like it. So, you know, everything I do equals the dollars. You see what I'm saying? Critt Mac was the king of that.

He would come on with a bunch of plates of food. and he'd be shouting out all these like home chefs that deliver it to your doors shit. I'm like, why you got this big pile of food that's starting to stink. You had it sitting in the car for hours. Yeah, so everything, everything is equal. So you see what I'm saying?

So I use you as a leverage. I'm going to go to Empire Christian 40. And we just, you know, we, this marketing, this was the whole business marketing trip to promote Mo3 album. Okay. And so, yeah, man. So is the posthumous Mo3 album arc of your life

coming to a close soon? I feel like he's got to run out of music at some point, right? Fuck no, he got about two more albums ago. Really? Yeah, let me tell you. Let me tell you. And these do well financially? They make a lot of money?

Yeah, he do. Yeah, yeah. His music still, because people didn't really just tune in to him after he died. There's a lot of truth to that, yeah. And let me tell you this, since he died out of King Von, out of Nipsey Hustle, no, no, no, Nepsy Hustle, Pop Smoke, you know, is King Von there in Mote 3? then Nipsey, then Pop Smote, there's still star power after they die.

You don't hear no more people just argue by Nipsey and can't wait for Nipsey albums. When it comes down to King Vun, King Vung actually, he's staying alive from Aal of Beech. They still talking about King Vonn. Every other day is, I mean, every other week is another story about King Vun.

Did he kill this person? They didn't try out. He just got snitched on. He'd been dead for three years. I know, I bet the three-hour King Vaughn documentary sent his streams through the roof, So like I said, and then we come down to Mo3, Mo3 got a signal like Chris Goh and everybody.

They got a Mo3 sector every night. About 40 people go live about Mo3. And the anticipation of this album is crazy. But it's bigger than King Von and Nipsey Hustle because in Pop Smoke because at the end of the day, I keep it alive. So I can stream this for another five years. It didn't come with a movie. Do you think that emotional pain, R&B-ish hip-hip has like a longer shelf

life than drill music on average too? Yeah, yeah, because the pain music get people through their day. Everybody ain't killing for life. Right. After you get through killing, after you get through gangbanging, it's going to be a time where you've got to realize how to keep your lights on.

That's why Ride Wave is winning right now. Rye Wave, their pain music is better than the drill music because people will always go through shit. After you get through the drugs and the drilling and all this, now you've got to figure out how to pay your bill. And that's where y'all came in there because y'all have made gangsters open up and talk just to get money in their pocket.

All them people in Chicago and they grow on now. So now they got to talk about and get money talking to do podcasts and open up on how they really feel about life. So after the killing, name who's going to pay your bills? Because once you're in the midst of killing and sliding,

you're going home and get some ass and have kids. So once them kids turn four or five years old, then shit, man, I can't listen to their drill shit no more. You can't listen to it at all. Yeah, I got to figure out how to, But even in Mo3 was talking about violence and shit, right? Is it just because it's a better balance?

He was talking about violence, but the songs that made meetings was the Everybody ain't your friend came from the heart. I never liked the drill music. I never liked the killer music. Right. But when he gets to singing, all his singing music made millions. Yeah, I mean, if I have to be totally honest, it's like I like doing the drill interviews and I find the shit fascinating as fuck,

But at the same time, how often do I go back to a lot of it? I mean, it's not that. I go back to King Vaughn. Yeah. Yo, you're Chicago, for real. Yeah, but, like, King Vaughn, that's an easy one. He made a lot of really great music. Where the King David from?

Famous Richard, yeah. No, I'm talking about the dude that came here with the King David on King Day. Yeah, yeah, that's famous Richard. He's from Chicago. Oh, so, yeah. Chicago, listen, Chicago is not making off music anymore. They're making it off their personality. But, I mean, compare every drill rapper ever to how much, like, juice worlds.

catalog is worth. Ooh. Come on. That's just like one of the crazy. That's probably the most profitable artist that came out of Chicago throughout the last 15 years, right? I was helping duck, mama.

Put the duck at him together, right? Oh, they're still working on that. Okay. Listen. The record labels is, damn, I hope this don't fuck kick back me in my head. The record labels help get him killed. Why do you say that?

Man, he got some good music. He's singing. telling stories on these songs and never been released. It's not no drill shit. It's shit about living life and helping throughout the life and they put out the shit that was he talking about

slide and all this other shit. Why would y'all just put that out? Because when you put the drill music out? But his biggest song was Slide, which is basically like a murder anthem. That wasn't shit compared to the music that she got over there right now. But why would that make you say that they wanted him

dead or that they planned. Here we go. Y'all try to set me up. Y'all try to set me up. Can we, we need to get another mic set up. You already know it's in here now. Why he got true religions on? What the fuck is going on?

You got true religions on? A little birdie told the rainwater was in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, I can't believe you got here that fast. I thought it was going to take it a little while. So now we... Alex. Alex.

I don't trust you. You don't trust me. I'm always here 30 minutes hit the blocks. You know, then my team comes between me. You're paranoid as fuck, bro. What do you think I'm going to do to you? Fuck with the clan.

The clan is politically useless. What are you talking about? Everybody's always gassing up the clan. The clan ain't doing shit. I like them. I fuck out of their dogs. Listen, I'm that fucking noble black girls. Really?

Man, you understand. White pussy's underrated. Man. Thank you. That's awesome to hear. Finally, if they got an ass. Oh, my God. No more black girls.

Fuck this shit. You got to worry about the brothers. You got to worry about the cousins. I got burnt by a black woman. What'd she do? She gave me STV. Yeah, gonorrhea. You can get those from white women, too.

Trust me. But it comes from the hoods. Gonorrhea? Yeah, it comes from the hoods. You can get it from anywhere. I don't know where you get them from down south. You get that hood gonorrhea? Oak Cliff.

It's a different fucking flavor. I fucked a prostitute from Miami one time and she burned me. She did. I didn't pay the fucker, but I knew she was a prostitute on the side. And I was off the Zanz and I fucked her raw and got burned. Yeah, it was back in the day, 2017, brother. Man, when Zanex hit Dalit Texas, niggas was falling in sleep left and right. Right.

Bad. I remember hearing people talk about Xanax parties where everybody was just like half passed out on the fucking couch and shit during that. But shit they're escalated now. Those perks are killing people. they still taking them her. Yeah. You think perks are worse than Zanz? Oh, well, yeah, because you don't know which one you go take to make you drop dead.

Yeah, that was the problem of Zanz, too. Once people start dying, it seems a lot less cute. Yeah, but you, but basically, you know, Zan, a lot of Zans, you just fall asleep. But the perks, it's like Russian roulette. You don't play with all that shit? Hell no. But you're so in the streets, you know all about it. Yeah, I know.

I'll be fucking what the girls to do. I got a girl right now to take eight perks a day, and she'll sniff them. What the fuck? Sniff? Yeah, the animal. You know what? She live under a bridge? Is she unhoused?

What's going on? No, she's fat ass. You hear me? So you'll take a homeless bitch with a fat ass. No, she's not homeless. You're real. She's not homeless. If she's snoring eight perks a day,

she might not be presently homeless, but it might be a little bit down the timeline that homelessness is kind of inevitable. And it's the fake ones. She's snorting eight fake perks today. I feel like you need to hold yourself to a higher standard. This is the type of bitch that's going to set you up, get you wrong.

No, she ain't going to set me up. You need a security guard to just watch this bitch, whoever you're talking about. Man, she's just like giving up some ass. Yes. Yeah. If I was snoring eight perks a day, I might be giving up some ass too. No, no, no, no.

A girl from L.A., from one of the M.O.3 video, we flew it to Miami, be with Torrey Lines before Tori L.A. And she was just like, rain, I need some pills. I need some perks. And it's the most beautiful girl in L.A. Like, so it's out here, too. You know, do you have a friend, cost some girls with all the perks? Oh, yeah, for sure.

But I don't really know. I don't really ask. And you took a perk? A couple times in my life. How do it make you feel? real like mellow and kind of like laid back but then you also sort of feel I don't know it's kind of got like a weird energetic thing to it it's a weird one it's kind of just like a regular pain pill but I don't know you listen to Sukiana uh I try not to but I have a little bit in my life I've watched a few videos do you agree she got you gotta be a nasty motherfucker to put your tongue in a grown man's ass no I got my ass like never possible oh my god oh my god I thought this porn star that I thought was super hot the other day and I didn't expect it to go eat my ass and she just just fucking dove right in there.

Listen. I didn't see it coming either. I was so happy. Listen, sexy red. Listen, the rap game is terrible now. The booty hole brown. Right. The rap game is terrible now.

Like, I'm looking for a rapper, a female rapper. She has to be the most ratchettest on earth. To outdo sexy red. Yes, because listen, when Glorilla came on the scene, that was the most ratchettest thing we ever seen in our life. Glorilla, if you listened to this, we need to find out what happened to the baby, the eight-month baby that was

that the girl was pregnant with in your video. We want to see how the baby's doing, but she was ratchet. Teeth fucked up skinny, her fucked up, completely terrible, right? Then when she got a

image right, she became, nobody gave a fuck about it no more. Then you got sexy red came and outratcheted her. Right. She said, she untold people,

she had STDs, told people that she was ratched and everybody loved her. So right now you got to go to the most ratchettest thing possible in life for the ratchez for the females. But I don't think that if you were like a real full-blown streetwalking prostitute that people are going to really go for you like the way sexy red. Sukiana?

But she's not like. Man, that whole sit there and squirted straight yellow. But I think that's probably holding Sukihana back. Whereas I feel like with sexy red, I mean, she don't have an only fan. Yes, there was a sex tape, but she didn't promote it. She wasn't, she wasn't stoked on it. That's a little different, right? And Ratchez tweeted the other day, this motherfucker stinks.

But that's more like theatrical ratchettiness. You know? Listen, you can't get no ratchett. And then, Creshun, Blueface got some ratchet baby mamas. And people don't understand. They're making meetings off the same. I'm looking for a ratchet motherfucker right now. If you smoke single cigarette, long con, come on my damn.

Damn, that does sound good. Yeah, straight up. Listen, I need the most ratchettest person because that's what's winning right now. Blueface wore off a girl with Well, the teeth missing Yeah Who was homeless when he met? Yes

Exactly about the homeless So always bet on the homeless Yeah, so at the end of the day The rap game didn't completely change where Man, if you got If you're a ratchet, I thought You know you could outdo sexy red Come out way

Because listen, sexy red can't even rap I feel like there's something about her voice That it's not just image Like when I listen to that Drake song that she got it's like, I don't know, she's got a good flow. She's got like a simple thing about her delivery that just kind of works for me. A lot of her music that I like, it's not about the image. It's not about her.

It's just like she comes up with like clever-ass hooks and shit. Yes, you do. You know, she's just like a funny writer. And then she's a star. Because like a lot of these girls, they don't have like music that corresponds to their look. What makes sure a star? Like what is Ruby Rose's team who helps her put together her records? What are they doing wrong that sexy Reds team is doing right?

Because you got one, one girl is like literally a thousand times harder than the other one. But she don't give a fuck. I had a girl yesterday I said, come on, we got to do a video shoot. I had to get my heard done. Sexy Red don't give a fuck about none of that. Think about if any other girl got pregnant at the peak of their career, their career would win down here. Yeah.

Right around. No, that's true. The new generation don't give a fuck. Chris and Red, they perform in the pregnant. Yeah. bouncing their ass pregnant I wonder whose baby that is Do we know?

I think You know I gotta be a broke motherfucker Because he gotta be somebody Who with no She have no Respect for him He can't be nobody

With no money You don't they? Man you don't let your baby be around All that smoke in the ur and all this That's not a bad point Sexy red ass Sexy Red don't made it Where every girl think

They could disrespect Their significant other But all these girls are basically like encouraging like terrible behavior to women, right? I just cut my eyes off. And it's fake. Right. Because when you see the way that these girls actually act in real life, what do they do?

Like the fucking city girls, young Miami is like dating puff and allowing him to fuck whoever God knows who in front or like around her. Like she knows all the shit's happening. But then if you listen to her music, she's talking about getting money out of a dude, which I believe you that you would be doing that. But the thing about a woman is that once a woman gets to a certain level, of notoriety, fame, money, etc. Almost no woman chooses to be single

once they get into that position. You're right. Yeah, you're right about that. They always go and get a guy. And to be fair, that's true for a lot of guys as well, is that you don't see a lot of guys who are in the like $10 million plus net worth club that don't have some kind of serious relationship. They just usually cheat a lot and take advantage of it however they can.

I learn when you, when you, I ain't got $10 million. I hit the one million mark I realize when you got money money money you have to have someone around you have a woman around you to keep everything rolling right like if I didn't have no woman at my house around me or no girlfriend every once in a while

I party every night really yeah right right when I look at my life as soon as I started to get some degree clout and fame and attention and all of a sudden I was able to fuck like way more girls than I was as a civilian before my fucking simp brain just somehow latched on to the girl that I was with at that time and just like kind of I don't know I think part of it was the fact that I really fucked with her but part of it was the fact that I just realized how out of control my life was and that I needed to chill the fuck out and I needed to stop fucking all these random girls like

once you get to a certain level of notoriety that shit is really difficult to maintain. And that's why it's crazy to me when I hear about Chris Brown or fucking like I hate to even throw him in there. But all these rappers, I hear about them having parties with 50 naked bitches

and all this crazy shit. And I'm just like, how do you maneuver through that? It feels like there's a ticking time bomb. It's the lifestyle. Yeah. Man, sometimes you get addicted to this shit when you know you can do it.

You know what goes on behind them hotel doors? Not really. That's the problem. I don't know. I want to know. Oh, my God. You gotta know.

Think about all the with all the shit that went on behind your hotel doors. I've been out that game for a long time. I'll pass a hotel and be like, only if the world knew

we were on at them hotels. It's different in the porn world though. In the porn world, because all this shit is just kind of like business. Before the porn world. Before the porn world. Before the porn world, that was a dirt bag.

That was like, you know, snorting. When did you get the porn? A couple years ago. But I was like snorting Coke in a warehouse parties and fucking those types of chicks. I never had exposure to the whole

hip hop style, like go to the club, get a section ball out of control. I was getting girls off straight, personality slash the fact that I had the drugs. Yeah. Not like crazy drugs. So the wife you went now, that's who put you in the porn guy. Yeah, yeah, she turned me out.

That's good. You love her. Yeah. Do you love him? Oh, yeah. We have a, it's what the weird thing is that. Do y'all live together? Yeah, yeah. We've gone to house for like five years.

That would make me so mad. the Crip Mac would have grabbed my wife's reality TV You do crazy things for reality TV I know what you're sitting there looking at it like This is a chick It's a big chick Because you use the shit I mean

You milked the shit I creeps mac Uh yeah that's my buddy I know I know I told you We both made money together Yeah but I'm saying Nobody has ever hit me up in my life More than Crip Mac

But you just you were smart about it To try to get some To try to get me to do podcasts for them and shit Which now that he's gone, because that's how it is with Kripag. It's like, if you had a Tupac song that you owned, it's only worth so much. And then he dies and it's worth way more because it's like that's one of the only Tupac songs.

Right. Crit Mag is not gone, but he's locked up for a period of time. So like the interviews that I have in the tuck right now, it's kind of like, oh, damn. It's like you're putting the most of them. It's hilarious. No, but so who had Jay Main first? You or Sean Cotton? Sean Cotton, for sure. He was interviewing for like a year or two before we got him on.

Yeah. So why y'all didn't pay for Mama Duck Hotel? We did. She got the nicest hotel you ever seen. Mama Duck, you wrong with that shit. I would tell you right now you're wrong with that shit. Well, I bet she wouldn't got the high. Did she eat?

Did she have room service too? Oh, no. She was watching dirty movies. We're going to have a problem. No, but Jay Mane goes, Adam, you need to pay her as she weigh And that big bitch right there That was the funniest shit ever

I just seen it Yeah, I just seen it Yeah, that was a whole thing I feel like I So give me a breakdown of the early days Of Rainwater Like I want to a little bit about how you exactly got Into this position

Mo3 wasn't your first artist I assume right Yeah not look I thought throwing high school parties Okay And the high school parties that I threw everybody who was involved in the high school parties, such as the stanky leg, you know, all the songs that came out of Dallas, DeRoe,

they used to attend my parties. So when they attend my parties, you know, my name blew up around the city. So they songs actually got hot at my high school party. I used to break into mansions, big mansions. And we get to do it, have a generate, turn the lights on, have an all-out party. And I used to do this for a year straight.

in a mansion a neighborhood called Lake Ridge and when the people start blowing up I started going the road with them from my best friend

had a song called Gutterbitch named Trady and Miff Hits had signed him Miffith had signed him and T. Payne the same year

and the stop-block and drop the dude from St. Louis. Right. Huey. And so like I actually was around Miffitz

went to Toyota and all this situation and so Miff Hiss was really taught me the game. And so when the Dallas scene started taking off the dancing, I used to go in middleman deals. So I was the first person in Dallas to,

how much you went for a show, you want $5,000? Then I call a dude back, hey, I got a new act right now. Dallas is high right now to Stanky Lake. You want to stay? Stanking Lake, yeah. How much they want? How much they want $8,000? I get $3,000, get them $5.

I got a new act. Who's at DeRoe? How much you want? I did this for years until I milked the whole Dallas scene, until it died down. and when it died down, I started breaking the house. What?

I did. I did. I got from making all this legit money to that. Because when you don't realize the legit money don't last that long when you live in a lifestyle. Yeah. And especially like that kind of thing

where you're basically making money off of the lack of information between parties. That can only last so long because at a certain point they're going to develop a direct relationship. Everybody. So everybody clicked up and said rainwater is the snow.

snake of the city. Oh, really? So I started breaking it against you. I started breaking the house. So when I broke a house and with the jail, the Dallas scene went dead. So actually in jail, in jail, I was the one writing raps. Like, I was the one, like, I wanted to be a rapper. Uh-huh.

Right. And I prayed every day. This first time I had met God for myself. And two days later, after I got a jail, I made Mo 3, sleep in the car. And I'm like, no. Nobody paid attention to you. He was sleeping in a car. He was like he had nowhere to stay.

Okay. A girl called him and put me on the phone with him. And I was like, what you doing? Shit. Nothing. I said, where are you going to be at the night? I'm going to come to your house, bro. I ain't got nowhere to stay.

I said, for real, I got a grand marquis. I mean, sometimes I sleep in the back of the hell. What? I went home to tell my mom. I'm a house for real. I just got out. Mom, I just made a dude named Mo3. Nick, you can go get a job.

Get out my goddamn house. You were broke at this time? Broke as fuck. you need to go get a job we got to talking about this boy, more three, and this shit ain't going to never last this and that, this and that. I just stuck with it.

So you just knew, you had that real confidence because you didn't have any experience in the music business aside from just being around all these artists you were booking? That's it. And I just kept on working with it. We never had a contract.

To the day he died, we split everything. Really? I mean, he got, and sometimes we don't split it all the way and had, but he got his first check from Empire of like 400,000. That's it. You guys were really 50-50 on everything?

Everything. Really? If he had a video shoot, hey, right, send me a thousand for pay for this video shoot. That's why when he died, it really fucked me because now I got to pay taxes. Right. Everything with his account gave to me, sometimes, but the shows with my account, but I got to pay taxes now. So if I get a million, I just got to pay down there's got to pay down with $200,000,000. Right.

You know what I'm saying? But you're only actually getting like half of it. Yeah, half of it, yeah. So now when he died, I got to pay the back taxes, and now all the money I get in is straight. chicks, man, and fuck me. That's crazy. I can't go out. This reason make $100,000 a week. I can't go out

and and pick up this money, cash money and go home, you know, and ain't got to worry about Texas. It's crazy, though, because when people ask me why I've never managed an artist, at least one of the scenarios that I can imagine is basically what ended up happening to you, where you invested all this time

and energy into something that you knew that you believed in, and then something that's completely out of your control, and kind of out of his control basically just, you know, wiped out all these years of work, right? I was on the phone and heard it out. Yeah, I heard about that.

I ain't ever cried as much. And, you know, you know, I'm from that side of town where he was beefing with it. So all the guys he beefed him, I've been doing him for years. Trapp boy, I've been on a trapboy. Trapp boy, he's passed out of my flies.

I booked Trappball first show. I was the first person to take him to the studio. I told him his name was young, little friend. I told him, Trap Boy Freddy. I've been on him for years,

years after years. Right. But I ain't like their hearts. Their hearts? Yeah. You thought they were grimy? You just,

they never went through something in life to make their heart prayer. You know, after he got out of jail to be prayer. Well, through his prayer.

He was thankful. I booked his first show after two weeks after I met him because I had all a pluzz. the shows. I booked his first show for $700. Bro, thank you, bro. Thank you. Come on, you can take

half of it. He looked at it like it was a leak and a blessing. One time, one time after two months after I met three, I booked him and Freddie for $15,000. Right? I got $7,500 to $3, $7,500 to Freddy. I gave my $7,500 to $3.00

and said, so how much I owe you? Just take $3,000. Bet, you know what I'm saying? I went over there to the Freddy car or your $7,500. Shit, I get 10%. Dude, you're not even hot. Fuck you.

I ain't doing this shit no more ever. But to be fair, you guys didn't have an agreement? You and Tribe Boa Ferri? I've been knowing you no longer when I knew him. He's hard good. He's thankful for everything he gets.

He comes from nothing. But he only really owes you what you agreed upon in advance, right? No, no, no. But he don't owe me nothing. But at the end of the day, that's why I picked this man. Because for a manager, 10% seems really low

and 50% seems insanely high. Yeah, but I met this man because at the end of the day, he was thankful. You understand what I'm saying? So listen, when I left this whole side of town booking their shows

and moved to a guy from across town and made him make more rap money than all of them than the hate one from him to me because now you're keeping him alive. You keeping him, his name ringing too much.

You keeping... When I made more three from North Dallas, I made him transatlice, transferred to Oak Cliff the other side of town. That's where him and Fredick knew each other from. Right? It got so big on that street

where Oak Cliff people would pass Freddy's shop because he was being the most popular of President of Oak Cliff for years. Passed Freddy's shop and come down there and take pictures with Mo3. Or go to Freddy's shop and Mo3 standing in front of Freddy shop.

Thousand people stopped. Mo three down there, Mo three down there. It's turning to jealousy. And it put me right in the middle of because you're supposed to be our people but you're over there helping him. right damn but so I mean throughout all that like you go through this whole thing with like you know mo three's enemies in the rap game and stuff my perspective from just hearing you talk I never heard

you talk about this specifically but were you like the type of person that really like wanted to be involved in those beefs or did you just completely turn your turn the other cheek and just be like mo three that's that's your sure you got to deal with that separate from me it came up personal for me because they feel like I turned my back on them. Me and Earl Spencer Jr. went to the same high school. I mean, it's the same community. I remember Earl Spencer Jr. since he was a first grade. Right.

We've been knowing each other. We're from the same neighborhood for years, years and years and years and years. But, you know, at the end of the day, people start feeling like you're supposed to be on our side. Man, I'm on this right. This little nigger, he's righteous. I fuck with this. I fuck with my three. I'm not, I'm not going to be underneath anybody.

You see what I'm saying? Like he's righteous I'm riding from 100% So then he started bringing me in the middle Because The worst thing about Mo3 He can fight He tow guns

And he can rap better Y'all That's a triple three If he want to go make a song about you He'll make the whole world chant every word he say If he see you in the street He'll beat you up

And at nine times out of ten He got a gun on him That was a man He was like Lamar BMF pop up and say peekaboo So I mean That's fucking crazy Okay because that's another thing I was thinking about

When I think about managing an artist Because realistically The kind of artist that I would be able to spot Early on and be able to say That guy's got potential That guy's got a future Is probably going to be somebody Who's street oriented

Gang affiliated etc And that just seems like a lot of fucking pressure To bite that off Because as soon as you're That guy managing him And you could be a guy the manager behind the scenes and maybe not attract that much attention.

But if you were out here on Front Street, like me or you, where people know who we are and you're managing somebody, it feels like you kind of take on their beefs because his enemies are going to use you as a proxy for him. You know what I mean? The managers die in this game.

Little Dirk. T. Grisley, Lil Dirk. Fast lane down there in Houston Nut. It's a couple of them. Finesse two-time DJ. It's exclusive. He got shot at the last event. And so, you know, you know what you signed up for.

I know what I signed up for. Every day I wake up, I know I've signed up. And I don't be around no people. I only like niggas in my car and using my charger. So, you know, I'm a man at the end of the day where I know what I've signed up for. But, you know, I went from breaking to houses. This is better than a regular job. I worked in a warehouse one time for 20 minutes.

You ever worked in a warehouse? A little bit. Oh, my God. It's like, hell is hot. Yeah. You're doing the same shit. Every job I ever had in my life, I spent the entire time thinking about how the fuck I was going to figure out how to not have to do this anymore. I was too late.

I was washing cars one time. Harder, Enterprise. I found $5,000 in the trunk or somebody left. I took that money. I wouldn't go book Webby. Lost every dollar I had. Really? Why?

Nobody came? It rained. Oh, it rained. It rained. It rained. It didn't, I didn't pay Webby. The back area. You didn't?

And he was pissed? You burnt the bridge? No, I ain't burned the bridge. Because then I didn't bring the bridge. But he didn't even have to perform because it was raining, right? He had to perform. I was 19. And at the time, I think they kind of lived.

Rambo is mounted. He looked through him. I just said, all right, bro, he's cool. Right. They didn't know I would go be the person I am. Yeah. I mean, you probably didn't know either. You didn't know that you had the potential.

Hell. I mean, I knew, but I didn't know I'll go meet the Mo3. Who else have you managed besides Moe 3? through though. Because you're still in that game, right? Yeah, like Bumpy Johnson. Like T.T. Bumper Johnson, him and Big X were best friend. They were real close. Okay. And then they went their step away. And right now, the highest people in Dallas right now is Big X and Bumpy Johnson. And I mean, it's got to be kind of crazy because Fred O'Bank. I got Fred O'Bank. Asked my 100,000. I got Fred O'Bank a hundred thousand. I got Fred O'Bank

100,000 for one show. He really supposed to be doing seven shows. He ended up doing one show for a brief of contract. Wait, what happened? It was supposed to be a tour. The guy who supposedly been doing the tour completely didn't know what the fuck he was doing. He came on Fredo Bang.

He had about six, seven months ago, completely, it was a bunch of bullshit. So you had to give Fredo Bang that much money up front for this tour? He did. I met a man. I went back to my middleman days.

Okay. But what was this guy doing that was fucked up? He was late on the travel. He had canceled one building, then counseled another building. Book club events, when it was supposed to be in venues. It was just out of, out of sync.

And he ended up briefing the country. Fred O'Bank, got to keep his money. Then he came back in book Sukiana tour, 32 cities tour. After the 70-1, she canceled out of her tours. dates from him. So she got about, she got a good, nice, good penny. And so that wasn't his fault or that was because of his lack of professionalism? Yes, yes. He didn't know what the fuck he was doing. But you end up dealing with a lot of people like this when you're booking shows and

shit, right? I love it. You love it? I give them the time, I give them the right time and the business. And after that, it's just, it's done. I'm really hard on promoters. Uh-huh. I make them send out of the money up front. Right. Yeah. They actually do that? Like, I feel like then if you give them all the money up front, then there's no incentive for the artist to actually show up. You might as soon. You know what I mean? You see money bag, yo just got sued. Right. Got served? Yeah, no, nobody wanted to get sued. I'm in, I'm in five in the two million dollars lawsuit right now.

For what? No, I just had a slipper file. Really? You know, I got one hip? One hip? Yeah, I had a hip replacement. From what? Just a slip and file. I was, I was brutally, I was brutally beaten the middle of the street. By who? That's a rapper from Dallas.

You're not talking about the zoo situation? Oh, that was trap by friend. Okay. He didn't beat me up. I went to jail and everything today. From that zoo situation? Yeah, he told him. But didn't he just mush you?

He came, walked up to me and slapped and mousse the shit out of me in front of my daughter. And I could have walked away. And my daughter probably would have said. But you guys were only fighting for what, like a little bit? Swinging on each other for a minute? Before that, it was about 30 seconds. They didn't get the whole fight.

Okay. And I realized when a bully get hit back, he can't stand it. And then I realized he's still walking away. Like, oh, he walking away? Oh, yeah, then I really try to turn up. Right. Yeah. But, okay, so then the cops just come?

And you're saying he pointed you out to the cops? The cops coming at the end of the year. He said, him. They took me to jail and he walked away. Wow. Yeah. So, okay. What was the situation when you getting beat up in the street?

Was there a video of that? or anything? Yeah, I'll leave it where. Oh, I think which one was this? It's just a name. I can't really

pronounce, but I mean, I thought I was going to get shot and I ran to the middle of the street to say they can't shoot me in the back in the middle of the street.

Where was this taking place? Which one was this? It's in Dallas. Okay. Everything's in Dallas, huh? Dallas was a zoo. Right.

It's not anymore? No, I'm getting rid of how I'm evil motherfuckers. How are you getting rid of them? I'm new. Every time I come across them, the people that's evil

and I know that you're just polluting the city and the heads of people See most people they talk about killing the gangster shit really I ain't never been through shit Really I just seen in a rapper

The other day I think the rapper At the Moneybag Yo tour And try to make them fight And they don't know what to do When you pull out of camera They try to make them fight you I try to make them fight you

I try to make him fight me Oh And when you pull out a camera With some rapper They talk about a lot of gangsters shit They don't know what to do They freeze up Put their camera away

Put that camera away no come on man we don't fight we man come on so you're still looking for fades just for the evil side because now the whole city is divided where you got to rock with them or you can't rock with them and the people that's the leaders are starting all this division don't can't fight for shit or not even really about their life right so what I'm doing is I'm trying to eliminate all the evil shit

so the kids can be great again because you got 10-year-old saying, I can't fuck with these people in North Dallas. At the fur. At the fur, it's so bad in Dallas where they have the fair every year, you've seen no baby dad, no father's there. It was nothing but baby mama's and grandma

was taking them kids there because they were scared something going to happen. You went and this was your experience? Yeah, I go every year. I take my kids every year. I just had triplets. Yeah, so it is. But so all the baby daddies

think that they're going to see somebody that have to get into it. But then they did. It was Oak Cliff met, Oakcliff met North Dallas. Three people got shot. At the fair. At the fair.

So they were right. Yeah. So at the end of, but they're saying, it's a sad way to live. You don't want to opt your whole life. So what I'm trying to do is eliminate all that problem where these people from this side can be mingle with this side.

I'm getting them bitchy-ha rappers out the way. So you couldn't sign a rapper who was talking about smoking on some dead people and shit at this point in your life? Hell no, because I heard a gangster mama cry. I heard a gangster die on the phone, man. Three last words kept saying, Rain, where are you at? Where are you at? And I just, I heard him.

It made my baby mama say, whoever in the dough he's knocking on, they ain't answering the door. I said, nah, yeah, no, he just got, they're shooting at him. For real. So you didn't know exactly what was happening, but you put two and two together?

I'm hearing him, saying he stopped. And then he said, they shooting at me. He said, hold on. And I'm hearing, then he, and I hear the wind go, yeah, they're shooting at me. They're shooting at me. They're shooting at me? Yeah, I'm saying.

So that changed you in terms of how you approach, thinking about working with more artists? Yeah, because it's scary, though, because I don't know. See, when you over the artist, you take the blame for what happened to the artist, not knowing that the artist was deep in the streets. You know, and then, like, right now to this day,

I take the blame for a lot of shit because people want to blame everybody else. Most of the people was a gangster. Most three favorite artists were Tupac. You know what I'm saying? Three days

before he died, we was in O'block that morning. Nobody didn't know we snuck in there. What did you do? We just rolled around. He was asleep. He woke up. If I could get into his Snapchat, he was just filming. Damn, Vaugh.

Damn, Vaughn. But sometimes God got to take these people away. This is like right after Vaughn died? Three days after he died. Vaughn died on the fifth. More three died on 11. What the fuck. But listen, don't,

sometimes Adam ain't going to lie to you. God take them type of people away from us, right? God take them type of people away from us to save other people lives. man, them two motherfuckers gonna give a fuck. I know Mo3 didn't give a fuck. Yeah.

And so sometimes he had to do that to save other people lives. You're saying that Mo3's death might have saved other people's lives. I know it did. Why? Because the content was influential and might have had themes that promoted stuff.

Man, Mo3 was like Lamar of BMF. So his music, you think it was really like increasing violence in Dallas? Oh yeah, the violent race went up. Right. But do you think that it was unintentional or do you think it was... Listen, the day he died, it was 24 shootings. Because all the whole city was just riding around, listen to Mo3.

No shooting had nothing to do with. No retaliation. It was 24 shoes because now that's all the radio playing. That's how people is actually listening to. Man. The whole city went... And so Mo3? haters were just shooting people?

Now you're more three haters, just people just general. You're riding around listening to Mot3. If you ride around listening King Vub all day, all day, every day, you go to store, you can have some type of bone in your body say, let me go, let me go pick up a gun. You know what I'm saying? I mean, there's definitely parts of Chicago where driving around listening King Vong could basically be like you doing enough that somebody would want

to shoot you in certain areas. Yeah, so, you know, you know, MOT3 was a good, more three was a good heart, but you know, at the end of the day, You can't push, a Gemini got two or three different personalities. Uh-huh. You know. I know a few Geminus. Yeah, so, you know, ain't nothing wrong, but God,

you know, God had to do that with them to them. Even Tupac. Think about Tupac alive for the next 30 years. He had an influence on everybody. Mm-hmm. And it's one of them coming from destruction because even the young boy, guy had to have him put on house arrest for two or three years. young boy in the streets

is crazy it's hard to imagine man I just ran it to B-10 in Montana now after the strip club man Bint 10 wow yeah he is he wow wow

yeah he wow wow yeah the cruel thing it was gonna be a whole shootout this side this side and they thought the people that I was with somebody else Ben 10 rolled up all he been

all he car just was swuming in and Montana was like Ryan Water, what's up? And he told Ben Ten, you know Ryan Water, right? And then he was like, yeah, yeah, I know him. Remember who these other people, Ryan? That's my artist, A-O-F-Kee. A-O-F-Kee, is my artist.

A-O-Kee, the one of the biggest street rappers in Dallas right now, a little 19-20-year-old. And they would just want some gangsters shit where they're not been up in the back down from nobody, each other. I'm in the middle, like, man, fuck this shit. Me, y'all are good, ain't good. He was me.

Man, y'all, Ben-Tin, y'all tripping. me y'all need y'all trip right here and i defused the situation and they're friends wow but i don't want to do that shit no motherfucker okay that's shit have you always been able to kind of have that effect on people or yeah i try to because i'm the friendly one did you ever try to clean up shit from o3 and try to make his beefs less intense because his beef wasn't had nothing to do with personal it was jealousy you got these two rappers over here on this side of town right on this side of town where they like the they're like the

the coolest kids on the school at the school dish, right? Now you got this other kid to come in that really couldn't dress and really wasn't popular as y'all come in and now when he come in it's like everybody like

ooh it's a gangster here it's a gangster here man people started hating the cool guy I still hating the cool guy's still hey and fuck him that was one of the gangsters until they finally got a gangster until they finally got a gangster.

Right. Well, they finally got a gangster then. They turned to throw blaming people. They started blaming the manager. Right. You did this, you did that? Nah, y'all don't push this man to the edge. Was that surreal for you to have people blaming you for it?

Man, that hurt my heart, man. Even his family, man. His family. Man, listen, listen. The appetite for conspiracy theories is fucking mind-blowing. Yeah, how the hell I got something to do? How did he has something to do with Tupac Delta? He got shot, too.

How did it? Pete did he had something to do with Biggie. And he just lost the biggest audits. Being Pete had been so fucking rich right now, Biggie was still alive. Right. He only had two albums. That wasn't shit.

People would like that about everything. Yeah, everything. Even his motory family, some people cried to the day. We just don't know. We don't know. You don't know what? On one person called out after he died and said, I was just wasting everything stop.

I said, yeah, you're right. So look, look, that's what I'm going to do. I'm a cow limb over there and say, hey, y'all, Mo' three dead and gone. Let's go. let's go make some money together. Like, no, no, no, I don't want you to do that. But you won't?

What you mean? You don't know. My daughter go to school to school to this day, I got to wake up and take her to Oak Cliff every day. So at the end of the day, but, you know, Motho is my friend. Right. He didn't turn his back on me.

I ain't going to turn this back on him. And I know every, I know every accomplishment in his life that he looked like a big accompaniment to him. When he met you, he was so happy. We're going, bro, I got the text message. We can get ready. We're going to no jumper. When you text him back, go to no jump him.

When he went to black, when he went this and went that, that's my real friend. So I ain't go back down even when he's here or not. Even the people that didn't like him when he didn't hear, I don't like them neither. Because you made a heart of my friend. But with him being gone, do you think there's any chance of you ever being able to get past that and be able to squash beefs? I'm getting them out the way. It's just two individuals. It's evil, man.

Man, there's too much blood being shit where we've got to get them out of the way to start over. We got hit a reset button. them out the way sounds crazy. Uh-huh. Get them out the way. Oh, I mean, get, I mean. Could be easily misinterpreted, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What I'm saying? Just period, like, we got to, we got, they get their step out the way. Like, once got, you know, it's all. So you're not going to go killing yourself. You're going to sort of like have a talk with God and hope that they get gently moved out the way. Yeah, yeah, anything. Like, like, like, put like this.

Like, they go get their step out of the way. Sometimes people get, sometimes people trick their step at their own position, you know, even like trap riding around a gun. What the fuck he ride with a gun for? You know, it's hot. Wait, he got a gun charge recently? He got a gun charge with the prison. He's in prison now.

Oh. Yeah, he in prison right now. So what were you yelling at him? And had you just not seen him for a really long time before you saw him in the parking lot? That was my first time seen him. No, I seen him before that. Okay. He did some goofy shit.

Then that was my first time seeing him like, we write there. Where was that in the parking lot of the club or some shit? That's the arena. Okay. He was coming to the back door. But I didn't know he was going to be there. I was just walking in and we'd seen him

he was walking towards me I'm like he walked towards the door and I asked him damn bro we're gonna see like we're gonna see each other I said bro we're gonna see right like

we're gonna see each other oh yeah what you and when he said that it just went off and he ran across he ran to the middle of the street put his hand in his pocket now we gotta show these kids

we ain't we ain't heard to kill each other that's what he was saying no I said that because he was in his hand in his pocket like I got this I got this man we ain't heard to kill each other come on

we've been you being rapping and making these people feel like, listen, let me tell you like this, Adam. Mo3 didn't die of no rap beef. Mo3 died of a jealous baby daddy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I heard you talk about this. Mo3 sit there was taking picture of these kids.

It's one of those things where everybody just assumed it was his ops because that's the easiest narrative to put together. Yeah. And then people start kind of amping it up, right? Yeah, Moth3 thought, man, he didn't die of no jealous baby. There. Moth3 was a ton of this man taking pictures of kids. kid flying this girl out of town to LA and this girl on Snapchat and Instagram,

my new boyfriend got everything I need. My new boyfriend, Rich, I finally, you know, making a baby daddy mad. Yeah. You ever made a baby daddy mad? I don't think I have. I haven't fucked too many girls with kids. I don't think. Yeah, I hate that shit.

And then look, y'all hate that shit. It's something I don't do that. Most of the girls I kick it with are not the type who are like actively breeding. Yeah. They're usually too irresponsible for that. Yeah. Oh, so you like young girls. No, I didn't say that.

More like strung out on drugs. Yeah, but, but not, you know. My past life, though, that really was true. The types of girls I was hanging out with. Yeah, like 22, 23. They want to hang out until 6 in the morning. Yeah. Yeah.

Time to have kids. See, down south, they're breeding. They're like bullies. They just breed and shit. Down south is just a lot harder to not have kids. Yeah, they're breeding. Everybody's fucking, you know what I'm saying? They're breathing.

But, you know, yeah, he died off of, jealous baby daddy, you know. Right. And I mean, if you're a rapper, you want to get some, if you want to get some plays right now, the goofiest shit you can do to get you some streams, if you see somebody die across town, just act like you did it. Yeah, yeah, I heard you say that. And it's sad but true. It's true, because that's how the rap game is got. That's how the rap game it is, though. You're going to get stream. And the streams you get out of dissing, it just, it only lasts for like a month or two. Right. Because once people have seen it, it's coming over.

Yeah, so then people don't know what to do. Right. So at the end of the day, and it's the dumbest sheets. That's why you can't let the record labels and stuff put that shit out. You know, that's not everlasting music. Because all the drill rappers, they jump out with all this money. Now, you probably get, I ain't never seen a drill rapper give millions. They got to switch it up some type of way.

Oh, yeah, you can't just keep doing that. Yeah, so they get by $2.250. I think Doug said he got $150 from his first time. and then, you know, a drill rapper, they blow it, and then they wait for the label to put out some more music. And what you're stuck in the same environment. But I feel like from the labels perspective, what they're kind of hoping will happen

is that they sign a drill rapper early on in his career and that maybe that authenticity that is being lented to him as a person through the drill shit is going to be able to sort of be like shaped and molded into something more commercially appealing, which is kind of like what happened with Von. You know, it's like he came out rapping like just like a straight drill rapper. And then as time goes by, they start getting better beats and he starts putting better hooks together. And all of a sudden you have somebody who was able to like kind of emerge from the drill shit the same way that Dirk did.

Man, listen. Fred O'Bain got issues with his label right now because they signed Fred O'Bain because of the beef he had with young boy. Right. Now he now he having issues with them now because, you know, Fred O'Bain went to a good period, a happy period of his time where he started making kind of happy music. but he wasn't rapping about their same old get back killing shit they stopped they stopped putting their shift them

that's crazy but Dirk was the smartest one at the whole drill situation why you said that he switched it up yeah but he had the talent to do that yeah yeah most rappers

they tried like Chief Keeve I don't think you had the talent to do it you know the Chief Kee has a talent holy shit that might be the only like anti-Chief Keefe sentiment I've ever heard anyone say on here because everybody reveres him so much. No, he had talent to

make the killing the drill music. He couldn't switch over. Yeah, but I feel like Chief Keefe is different because he's sort of so in his own lane and just it's like he can't conform at all. Whereas Dirk, I look at him

as like a smart dude who's able to look at what's going on and see what future is doing and kind of come up with his own version of what future's doing and then he's seeing what Vonn's doing and he's able to like keep that kind of energy and like so he's just strategic with it whereas chief keep is not strategic at all so who had a better career if chief keep has another hit it will be an accident so who had a better career so who had a better career oh jerk for sure yeah as a business yeah

yeah yeah yeah but i mean chief keep is like part rapper part like internet legend in a way what happened to quando runda well he got picked up for these fed charges recently right i'm what happened to his career though well basically got blacklisted out the game for Vaughan shit, right? Yeah, so listen, let me tell you this. They let you make the op music, but when your op die, their goes your career. When Dao died, there was Black Yonster career. Do you really think?

Hell yeah. Well, he can't play that card anymore. Exactly. But there's certain rappers that dissing them is not going to be really appetizing to the people because they're so beloved. Yeah, I know, but it's too late. You can't dissing them. You can't do nothing anymore.

They go on. So they'll go your career. You have done a rap about it. Even El Condo Rundo, when Vaughn, the Von's situation, Quando Rundo went completely down here. Yeah. So these, the same fans will love for you to diss this person, they're like me, I'll go back and forth,

but when somebody get killed, then they feel sorry for him. Yeah. I mean, that is the crazy shit about it, is that Cuando's guy just killed someone popular. Yeah. So his career gets fucking frozen. Yes. Yeah.

And he lost out on a million opportunities from that. Whereas, on the other hand, you know, there's been situations that you can think of where somebody gets killed who the people don't like or just don't even care about. I mean, nobody gave a shit about Von Diss and Duck. Yeah. And Doug was a reasonably popular rapper, but, you know, people weren't so in love with Duck that they found it disgusting to hear somebody diss him, right?

Man, listen, but it's one thing, and it's one thing about the situation, Chicago was so evil. The whole world picked a side. Kind of uniquely evil, huh? That's crazy. The whole world picked aside. Right. You know. I remember, this is just like a weird example, but I remember back in the day,

6-9 had a problem with Trippy Red. But it was early on when 6-9 was really small. And 6-9 actually didn't really go that hard on Trippy Red because he felt as if Trippy Red's fan base was so much bigger than his at the time that he didn't want the smoke with him because I think he was aware that if you beef with someone who's like way more well-liked than you, it's really, really hard for you to be seen or for you to gain fans. but then once the tables turned

and all of a sudden six and that was bigger than him he took it upon himself to like constantly beef with him after that and I mean there's a percentage of the rap population who's just like if you take a perceived L and a beef that's just it you can't come back from that which is super sad but there's a lot of

a lot of people who felt victims of that shy glizzy guys change so boom you never heard from again he never heard from again yeah and he has some good songs out of that and shit too and the songs were able to do all right a little bit but it was never like it was. Only person I've seen defeat the eyes

of Boston Richie. He didn't, but he did because when he was, when he, Boston Richie moved quicker than anybody ever seen in the last couple years. In terms of blowing up. Yes. Yeah. And then future and I was with twin one of his managers and

future, so I'm watching the whole situation. As soon as the snitching came, he stopped being around future. So, but he still can kind of float. And I see now he's back packing our shows, but if that's what never came out, I believe that he would be huge, though.

But, you know, at the end of day, me, y'all was judging a person that was 16, 17 years old. He seems like he's still doing real well, but it also feels like maybe there's a ceiling or there's just like some percentage of people that aren't going to fuck with them where like if it hadn't been for the decision shit,

he would have every rapper in the game, like really trying to work with him and shit, at least on the street side of things. You're right about that. Like right now, but it ain't about rapping no more. The rap game have changed what it's not about rapping. It's about personality. Right now, Honeycomb Brazier run the rap game.

You might have a little bit of a Texas bias saying that because I don't know how many people in L.A. are really thinking about him, but. But you're right, though. But let's be real. L.A. L.A. don't have no. The South is running the game. Right now, Honeycombe Braser got out of jail

and going live about for the next two times and this and that doing it. He's just being a personality on the internet and showing his personality by going live and this and this and there and everybody tuned in. Right now he had five videos top 20 on YouTube. Really? Yeah. Wow.

I didn't know it was that crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking about driving down there, or not driving, but flying out there and doing an interview with him. And then there's this other podcast that I check out from time to time called the Pop Austin Media, I believe. You don't like that. Man, T.T. Nott is full of shit.

He just be talking shit. He only knows what he'd be talking. Yeah, I've been trying to catch up with him for years And he's just be talking shit, man Damn, I like the other guy Chris, though, too They're both fucking entertaining us fuck I developed Chris on my goddamn lives Really?

Chris used to come on my lives on Instagram Every, all the time Chris Jay Jack and I know we're talking about I created Chris, man And they went over there, they're cool, man Nah, fuck Tee Nadi He doesn't make me mad so many nights He's a hot head, he'd be barking on people on there

He's like a minister's Charles and White he's like a wrestler he's like just giving these like passionate rants about shit so you didn't go do the interview because they did no because they said

that they went to do it and they showed up with security and all this shit and that they just basically got like stiffed out of it and then Honeycomb Brazier wasn't trying to do it I don't know if they actually

got off money or anything but you had them though yeah yeah no I was thinking that too they didn't pull that with my white ass I think you just sit here in your own kingdom me just live your life. No, but he can't leave, so I would have to go there.

Why don't you go there? I mean, I would, but it's like, I just got a lot of shit going on. Adam, you're not hungry no more. But you got to see my fucking schedule of how much shit I got to do next week. I got 15 interviews next week. So if you, I don't understand that, but listen, if you had the chance right now to pay a half a million dollars, would you go interview young boy? Half a million?

Hell no, he can, you can suck it. Half a million. What the fuck? For real? This shit ain't worth that much to me. You'll be a whole other level. Plus, I know too many people who have gone and interviewed them for free. I ain't getting taxed like that.

Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I fuck with him, but I don't fuck with him like that. They tell my partner Doug, Doug in Dallas, they said they charge Doug a million dollars. Because what Doug do, he comes sit up a live stream in your house, and he could perform and streaming on pay-per-view while he's in the house. He was going to do this with Youngware? He did do this. He didn't do it.

He didn't do it. He charged a million dollars. I kept telling him to do that was a perfect, that was a best thing to do. Yeah, you are someone who really, like, advocates for artists

spending huge amounts of money on support from other artists. I've noticed that from your interviews. Are you saying, like, you, of course you should pay $350,000 for a little baby verse. What hell you?

I'm just, like, not familiar enough with the economics of being in the music business. Like, from a YouTuber perspective, I mean, I guess I could see myself pardon with, you know, $100,000, but, like, my top YouTube videos

of all time and earn YouTube money, I don't know I might have had a video hit six figures but I don't think so. I think it's mostly like 50. $100,000 for young boys, perfect. If I interview a young boy, I'm going to get like, let's say 4 million views, 3 million,

like something like that, like... Four million views? On YouTube? Man, you probably... That might be worth 40 grand to me. So that's why I'm not. But it's not about the money, it's about the... Now you get young boys' friends, subscribers.

They already should be here from all the other work I put in over the years. No, yeah, but he's young. That's the youth. And I realize those subscribers that you're talking about have value. I'm just saying the value is not $100,000. Yeah. There's some value, but it's not.

There's a young boy. Yeah, and he's doping everything. It's like a label investing $30 million of him. But the thing is, the young boy did Bulla Kev. He did a complex vlog. He just did Gillian Wallow. So he kind of burning himself out,

which is the same exact thing that he's done with his music. You think he burned itself out? With the music? Yeah, he's doing 30K first week and shit. No, you ain't, y'all ain't seen the big picture. I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it's the entirety of his career, but I'm saying that the reason why when he drops, it doesn't get that much attention because he just drops too much.

And now with the media, he's doing the same thing. He's doing the mad content all at once. Okay, put like this. Put like this. And I'm going to tell you, I don't know. I ain't talked to Montana in a while, so I don't know. But listen, he just signed a huge deal over here, right? Shot of Montana.

Yeah, he's just signed a huge deal. And I think he's like five albums. he can get out that deal while he's still on house arrest. When that boy get off house arrest, he's a totally different monster. I believe he got other songs over there just waiting. So if I get $100 million over here and I got $5 million, I'm going to keep on releasing, release it, release, releasing.

When he get off house arrest, he's going to be a monster. Yeah, that's true. It's almost like he's in jail right now. He is. Because it's like he might be a little bit more free. He can make music, but you don't get to see him out and about doing anything. anything and he can't have any felons pull up on him.

Yeah, so, but when he, when he, which eliminates most of his friends. When he get out, he'll go for big. I think, I think he might go for, damn there 200,000 a show. You think he's good enough that he never runs out of steam with the audience, that the audience never loses interest? Well, you know, people don't kill,

don't throw away their life trying to be like young boy. Young boy made it popular to have herpes. I remember, I remember having herpes, It was the end of the world, Adam. I wouldn't say he made it popular. Man, I... He did talk about it. He goes, I got this herpes in my veins.

I'm like, what the fuck, dude? And people don't care about it now. Like, they don't care about it now. It's okay to have herpes because young boy had it. So at the end of the day, he's... Man, he got people... I see people wear tight pants and walk crazy like him. And half the people...

Yeah, with the wobbly legs. Yeah, and half the boys don't even get hurt cuts no more. They got nappy-re-ass froze. Like, young boy had a, young boy had a bigger impact. I'm most big in the Tupac. I wonder if young boy has caused smoking to go up because I feel like I never see him without a cigarette in his hand.

You ain't lying. It feels like I see him with a lot of different types of tobacco in his hand too, and it makes me wonder if he just goes to the gas station. Well, I just can't leave the house, but he sends someone to the gas station has him like buy out the gas station, just like every pack of cigarettes they got.

Yeah, I better leave it. Because I'm a person, I like smoking cigarettes, but I refuse to buy a pack. It's just like I'll get some from someone once in a while. I'll get a cigarette off somebody and I really enjoy it because it's just so bad for you that I just don't want to get into that habit. It is bad for you? Smoking cigarettes? Yes. Very, very bad for you.

Smoking weed is probably not that great either, but smoking cigarettes is a death sentence. Yeah. I take some shots of patrol and pick up some cigarettes. Yeah, exactly. That's how I started it. too. Go to the bar. All of a sudden. Everybody smokes a cigarette at like 1 a.m.

That weed get me too damn high. You don't like that? Hell, no. I walked in here and caught a contact. Wee get me unfunctional. I forget about that. Some people, like, the amount of weed smoke in the air here is offensive. Yeah.

Because, like, Stivo used to be a drug addict, and he came in here, and I could tell that he wasn't really. Oh, you interviewed with Steve? A couple times. Yeah. But even him just coming in here. So who was the biggest person, who was the most views you got? X. I did the interview with the most views of any rap interview ever.

Oh, X, X, X, X, X, and Taus Young, yeah. It's empire. 22 million views. Oh, yeah. So you're talking about Ghazi eating off all these guys? Nah. No? No?

No, the percentage guys that give up. It's crazy. Really? Yeah, every, oh, this is an empire rich. Because the percentage that guys give you. So, Gazi's just willing to operate at a much lower margin than most people? To get them over there. He's like Costco.

Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. Me, damn they're getting you 40%. I haven't really, like, dug into the business. Listen, I make, for a 20% contract with an artist, I make over $100,000 every other month. Right. That's for a manager.

It's for a manager of an artist that only had two, three albums over there. So, you know, at the end of that, Gazi percentages, you look at Money Man, it's hard at Rich. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, so, you know, the young blue,

everybody that signed over there as a Gazi. Moneyman girl on my ass before because I said I never met a Money Man fan Why the fuck you say that?

I was just being real I was caught in a moment of weakness where I was just telling the truth Now you're right though There's a lot of artists like that though

where I mean Kendrick Lamar Look at his streaming numbers Yeah We live in LA Yeah I don't know anybody Listen to Kendrick Lamar

I'm gonna be real with you I probably don't hang out with the right crowd that listens to him Yeah but I'm saying Like I never even hear him Discussed

But then when I hear people talk about the greatest rappers of all time and the biggest rappers, he's right up there. Yeah. But I'm just being real. Like, I don't know. I don't know who listens to him.

Yeah. That wasn't true in 2012, but it is true. What money man say to you? I don't even think he's saying anything. He said he was going to do an interview, but then he didn't do it. Oh. That's fucked over.

I was just real suspicious, too, when they started showing that his suggested artists on Spotify were, like, unrelated to his shit. And I was like, oh, that means you're buying plays. Well, it's like my understanding of how it usually works. So you think Money Man buying place? I mean, that's like usually how it works. If your Spotify recommended artists are like totally arbitrary and not related to you,

I feel like there's a lot of that. Now, listen, Gazi and Money Man got a good relationship. He's going to be a story. But at the end of the day, when Money Man first came out, he was hot. He was scorching hot. I didn't, I really didn't know he going to make it this far because you had Money Man and Money Bag. Yeah. Money Man is kind of a funny name.

Yeah. He's a superhero. Like Batman. No, you know what I mean? The people, he... I don't... Honestly, I don't know him from... I don't know anything about it.

Down south? They, yeah, they... He's swiping and, y'all... Oh, he's a swiper? You know what I mean? He motivated the swipers. That's Elaine. He motivated the swipers.

That's like a way to latch on to our percentage of the fans out there these days. He talked about money. He had a boss of a check. Money man motivated them people. Mm-hmm. So what's YTB Fets doing right? of tempo beats. I can't understand shit he's talking about.

Everything has to be fast as fuck now. In the major cities. Yeah. You go to L.A., you go to Miami. You go to New York, everywhere they like the fast tempo beats. A lot of times when I'm listening to new artists now, I'm just kind of like marveling at how unbelievably

fucking fast they're rapid and how fast the beats are. You see it? So hard to hear. It's like, hip-hop has just gone now like a strange path. The producers are really more valuable then the artist right now, but the producer's not understanding that. Because I can tell you one thing, Fats talking about.

Right. Or, um, uh, boston Ritchie. Mm. I don't can't understand any time. They just, it's just the beat. Yeah. What about like the bad rapping? Who's the worst rap act?

Not like intention, not like bad, but like kind of like intentionally offbeat, like, like Rob 49. is like he's like intentionally not really trying to be on beat at all and there's just something like that I can't tell you one song you got it's like a wall of sound to me as well yeah I'll be real yeah but it's like that now we're like the artists that are really big like you just because they have their hardcore fandom and then everybody else is just kind of like on the outside looking in they're not writing everything they freestyle yeah that's a fucking it up everybody you really think it's fucking up because that's so pervasive that it's hard to imagine rap ever going

to pre-written shit. Yeah, the people that's the stars writing shit. That's true, yeah. The people that, you know, everybody want to punch you and do this. That shit ain't lasting long. Maybe that is the new wave.

What? Like, I remember watching that Kanye documentary, maybe a year ago or whatever, and there was, like, all these verses that he had memorized, that he had clearly been rapping to people and working on remembering and just, like, refining the little details

of the lyrics and stuff. And I was just like, I mean, these verses are so much more memorable than anything. you hear these days, and I feel like the punching in method, as much as people are in love with it, it's got to be part of the reason why. Man, it went down. It went down.

You can't have an artist on spot say, rap a verse. And they just go in. But some people are really good at it. And that makes everybody else want to do it, even though they don't have the natural ability, right? I know it. I know it. That's what Y. TB Fat doing. YT.B. Fat took the spot of Big 30.

I ain't heard about Big 30 no more over there at Brick. at Brigg, whatever they name, Money Bay, Y'all count. I liked Big 30. I like Big 30, too. You think it's over here?

I ain't seen him no most in YTV Fat Kane. To me, Big 30 was always like Poo Shisty, it's like if you're trying to quit Poo Shisty, you're trying to,

you might, like, throw a nicotine patch on. Yeah, you got Big 30. That's like Big 30. I really fuck with you, bro. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to diss or anything. I'm just being real, like.

you think Puchas is going to do something to get out? Shit, I loved his music so much while he was out, but I do wonder if, like... It's too long. There's certain artists where, like, their youth and their energy is such a part of it, and I do wonder if Poochchai's going to lose some of that along the way. But, you know, I got my fingers crossed. He'd be more, like, he'd be more older and wiser. That was you saying?

A lot of times the best rap music comes from the dudes who are in this, like, early age bracket where they're just out of their minds. Like people just like to hear from a fucking psychotic teen. But look at Finesis. He got after five years. Yeah. But the standard becomes so much higher. Your music just has to be so much better as you get older.

Like when we're talking about, oh, you can get a million views from just dissing the guy who died on the other side of town. I mean, the counter version of that is have talent and make great music. We just know that's like very, very difficult. And on the other hand, getting all your homies together to hold point guns at the

camera and say fuck little JJ or whatever is like easy, you know? Yeah. But the thing gives the anticipation when they get out. You gotta know what they talk about

like Riloh. I heard people for the longest before Rallow went to jail so he couldn't rap. And now I'm watching him. He went to jail to write out his music. I think he's a story right now.

I talked to him on the phone with Celine from 300 and he got on more three album for free. But he hasn't put out a music video since he got out yet, did he? He put out. one since he's got out. Oh, okay. They're numbers. I didn't even see it. It was, they think it was number two on YouTube. And then, uh, Rallo for him to be a start.

Rallo is the, his hip-hop gangster now. Yeah. Biggest gangster. I mean, yeah, he's a, he got the, the prison sentence to prove it, right? Yeah, but now he just, Rallow had, Rollo had a whole apartment complex. Right. He's got like the New Jack City story arc. Yeah. Got caught on a plane with a hundred, I mean, thousand pounds.

Yeah. He's like the King Vaughn, but of trapping. You're the trapper, yeah. Where there's like a real, yeah, there's a lot of evidence to go on. Get out of jail,

a little baby pull up on with 50,000. Right. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, no, Rollo is the truth. I always get confused when I see rappers just giving each other

huge amounts of money like that. I'm so cheap. Sorry for me to fathom I see that now you cheap as fuck Super cheap I can never imagine giving somebody 50,000 So let me ask you a question So all let me ask you a question

So all the girls on her on the page Because I go I don't buy your shit Believe that So look You ain't never paid them The girls? Yeah

We do content trade So they're able to put it on their only fans As well as us put it on ours Oh okay So I thought Okay. That's even. Which is cool.

That's what they would always want to do anyway. It's not like it's like our big sinister idea. It's like the chicks would just way rather get their content and be able to promote it on OnlyFans and shit. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I thought I was thinking sometimes like a, it's like booking an artist. No.

Like a feature. I think about that though. I think about how fucking different the porn game is from the rap game sometimes. One of the biggest differences is that the biggest chicks are so low-key and humble and like easy to be around from our perspective business-wise, whereas like the biggest rappers are like just clouded in this big fucking like web of ego and you could barely fucking talk to them

and like they just like are so full of themselves a lot of times. Like there's exceptions to that rule but a lot of rappers like really take their success as a license to them. I need you a South Walker to do. I need you and South Walker to do an interview. Yeah, I've been trying to do that forever. He invited me to his show last time he was here and I just was on my old band shit

and I just went home and went to bed. Man, I wish you in Salt Walker. I'm going to talk about the whole goddamn point of game. Man, I've seen him beating some cheeks on Twitter just scrolling through. I'm like, that's not supposed to be here because that's supposed to be our only fan's exclusive. But that shit motivated me.

It made me want to get in shape because I'm watching Sauce Walker with a mean six-pack laying dick down. I'm like, God damn, I'm fucking out here with a foo. Hey, where are you thinking? My thing? Oh, it's right at. No, no. No, okay.

No, I don't talk about that. Don't say that because people were taking it. I'd be like Charles and White or Aiden. I'd be a Charles and White or Aiden. You want a peepa Kandama. Nah, yeah, you ain't. I don't know you was working on that for years. And I always want to, I always said it got to be the easiest thing.

It's not. Well, okay, like the simple stuff, like just spiking it is super easy. But then beyond that, there's like a whole web of like insanely complicated tricks. I was really focused on it for a couple years. And honestly, I think that when I got obsessed with poker again, that really just like took over the part of my brain that cared enough to like really work on condomitrix. That's how to survive in prison. Poker?

Hell yeah. Oh, fuck you up. I know how to lie. Yeah. You gotta be a good liar. To, you got to be a good lie. Oh, yeah. Here we go, here we go.

Are you trying to cut this? I thought whack was going to like hop on here and you guys were going to be screaming at each other. I thought we was too. He's available at nojumper.com. Oh, yeah. Yeah, go get him. He might be waiting because we're going to be waiting because we're going to be. We're supposed to do an episode with L.A.R. Long Beach artist, D.W. Flame.

So maybe he's just holding off. But you don't have to wrap it around like that? No, you don't have to wrap it around. Just leave it hanging there. This one's loose as fuck. I never thought I would be doing seated condama lessons with rainwater. You did you hit it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that can't do it.

You got to flip it up. Can we throw the mic on? So I got to have y'all two on camera at least for a little bit before we wrap. wrap up his interview, right? He heard you outside. Ooh, you're telling him about rain, water, and yellow bees. He loves relating other people's politics. Yeah, come on, Wack.

You don't know him? I like how they set the mic up, so it's like Wax's going to be sitting next to me. I never sat on the same side as Wack before. In all these years apart, and I never sat on the same side as you. Get over here. I got $150,000. I got $150,000 on your shirt. Let's set that up, man.

Cultural appropriation. Let's set that up, man. For real, my mama. What are you guys talking about? Don't tell me that. No, I've been wanting it. Huh? I've been wanting it.

Yeah. Yo, tell them to get my cell phone right there. Yeah. It's on the armrest. What, you're trying to pay for a feature? Yeah, we didn't. He doesn't. He got a little dude.

He had a little dispute with me. Yeah, yeah, let's see. Can we do that? So, you know, this dude used to talk shit to me on Clubhouse. Yeah, yeah, he said that. He used to talk shit. But, you know, it's Rainwater. So I figured, you know, I know the game.

So I'm figuring, like, you know, water doing what he's supposed to do. I didn't take it like, it's a problem. I warned security before today. I said, like, let's make sure Rainwater know I fuck with Rainwater. Let's make sure Rainwater and Wack aren't left unattended. Any nigga got that type of C is probably with Rainwater. And he called itself like a street dude. You're supposed to do all to read between the lines, right?

So he's not a street dude? No, rainwater is a dude that do business with people in the streets. Like, you know, he's a promoter, clubs, very detrimental in Mo3's career. Yeah. He'll tell you. You say detrimental? I mean, I deximate. I mean, instrumental.

No, very important in Maltre's career. But listen, he wouldn't, he's going to tell you that, do you want to be looked at as a street, digger? Yeah, not. Gangis don't live that long. We learned that from Scott. Since 2016, I've been crossed over. I represent the bitch-ass knickers No you don't know

Hell, nah, whew! You said it all the time. You got Charles and White coming out here paying big money for security scay to run to you. Charles and White said Ryan get out He said rain get off

Clubhouse He said, Wack got people you can't see their face Me and Charles and talk for hour Trans people I got a bag for him He didn't care you

I got a bag for him He had some lady called me or something I don't know Yeah, Dr. O Yeah something Talk for hours. Yeah. But he said he had to do his,

the comedian tour. Yeah, it fucked. It fucked up. Oh, they still didn't get him, though. No, no, no, no. They know he can get touch. You remember for a long? He could have been got touched.

No, no, but for a long time, people, I heard you, I heard all the gangsters sit there and say. Not me? Yeah, you said, we're going to leave that man alone. No. He'll call the police. See, what him? Uh-huh.

If it's that serious, if it's that serious it got to go one way if it's not that serious you got to let him do a shit shit he has disrespect to the whole rap game it doesn't matter if it's listen

he's gonna tell no yeah that's that's that is his that is his camouflage that's the keeper do you know the police in Dallas Texas won him

he's gonna tell do you know the police in Dallas Texas won't him Charles can still tell right he can still tell right he's gonna tell right yeah but now it's becoming like a sporting event, like a meme to run up on Charles White. He don't want people to tell on him.

Charles, that's a federal offense suit yourself in the club. I don't know about all that. I just know that if you do something, like right now, he's going to sue that club. He's going to book the shit out that club. No, he threw some fly. He can't solve it first.

Security supposed to not suppose to allow anybody get on the stage. He's going to book the club and a promoter. That's like the slimyest law so you can possibly give. I can see. him did a contract. You shoot yourself in the club and you sue the club. I can't see him sign no contract. What you think he won the contract?

Man, man, what Charleston White is doing right now is self-destruction. I did hear some shit. Yeah. You said some shit about my name on one of these interviews. What I say? I don't know. You know what you said. Let's break it up. You said. And you said something about I wouldn't something like Wack 100. I wouldn't what? I don't know. It was business related.

I can't remember. Oh, I can remember. It was some business shit. I don't know if you were. was trolling or what, but I didn't understand. I'm like, damn, what I? No, no, let me tell, Wack, what, what, what, what you do? What was? I can't remember, but the thing what you did, I can't remember what I asked and said.

The thing what you did in this industry is, you had this big persona like a shug night. Never. Shit. Oh, no, no, no. Or J. Prince. Or J. Print. Let me put like that. Can I say J.

Never. Rangey-Oter explains why he wouldn't work with Wack 100. There it go. How? See, you cap it. No, listen. Let me ask you a question. That's the caption.

That's the caption. I watched it earlier today. It was a little foggy. Have you ever heard the motherfucker say Wack extorted him? Wack had them robbed. Wack had them scared. No, that's their own person.

Wack them, beat them up. Because you're so good at extorting them that we never really found out, right? I was on a plane today. You said you took a gun, a pillow gun and shot a dude 15 times, 32 times. I just seen him a while ago.

That's the best flat title because it cuts it off before he gets to the fucking pellet gun part. I just seen him while to go. And here we go. I couldn't think of his shot at him on the face. You were a fierce motherfucker.

I mean, I, you know, I grew up the way I grew up. But I, you know, I don't. Then let me tell you, but let me tell you why. You had this big image. And then he made yourself accessible. I'm always accessible. Look, the head go right here. Look.

See that? Now, God, I'll keep my paperwork. What did that say? What year? 1989, right? Okay, yeah. Okay. What's the charge?

PC force Okay 245 Okay Force Assault with deadly weapon Not firearm GBI

1989 I was 12 years Gray bodily injury likely Bro it's my whole rap sheet You sent me this the other day actually Everything on there The murders tip the murders ADWs

How many murders you got here Why is your fucking phone case Too big for your phone What's going on here I don't know I'm not a phone guy Apparently Like, what the fuck is going on?

As long as I can drop that motherfucker to work. But if you're going to drop it, it's going to fall out. So I don't cat. It's like a baggy condo. I'm born in 77. Yeah. 77 from 89 is 12. Yeah.

245 that's sold a deadly weapon. Yeah. Non-firearm. Yeah. Which is what? Depele gun. I don't, I mean, I just tell niggas about my life. But I've never wanted to be a shook.

I learned, what I learned from Shug is what not to do. That's what I was about to say. That's what I learned from me. You are a grimy motherfucker, but you are not a shirt. I never really was that close to him to see what he did. I just know what it's a conversation. And my eyes why I used them to is because you'll take... I'll fucking nick up if I got you.

You'll take a gangster rapper and change his whole life. Yeah, but that's business. I know what I'm saying, but we said you do this with the biggest blood gangster, right? Then you came back and did it with a crip and represent the crips and you are blood, but you brought unity to let everybody know I could take this one person and make him the king of the world. He's a king of the, he's one of the kings right now. I'm not a gangbanger. Uh-huh.

I don't game bang no more. Yeah. But you have, I'm from power. That's going to be till death. But I'm not a gang-banger. But I'm saying you got the power you can do. I don't say it's power. I just, I'm going to see, because I don't lie that. Because that, when men start to swallow that type of shit to think that shit, then you get off track.

I just say I got the know-how, their influence and the will to do. Did you disappoint people when you started talking on club hell? I probably did. Did I disappoint people? When I sign Blueface, that I disappoint people, when I interview 6'9, did I disappoint people when I did the Kodak Black feature, that I disappointed. Here go to the thing, I'm not here for them, I'm here for me. Yes, so.

So basically what you're saying is perfected that you have switched over. No, switched over what? From, from, you're not a gangster. You're not a gangster. No, no, listen to me. I make no revenue in the streets. if you brought me a duffel bag full of money I'm gonna tell you go make it a cashier's check

and send the wire. Yeah, yeah. So when it comes to my corporate business, the streets have no say so, zero. Yeah. Zero. Yeah. I don't bring my corporate business

to the projects. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about shooting the video on the projects. Yeah. You know if I want to shoot a video on the projects and I just didn't want to go to the pro, what I'll do?

Green screen the projects. Send a nerd over there with a drone at about 4 o'clock over the park and catch this nigga shooting dice and fighting. Right? Get a few low-rider clips and then edit the shit in the artists in the projects.

Yeah. I don't give a fuck about that, bro. Yeah. The streets is not in control of the industry anymore. Yeah, I know. You know that. Gangsters don't survive.

They're not in control. You know what I'm saying? But there's no like hypocrisy about him fucking with blueface because... Bull shit. People care? What? That nigga was called itself, the famous Crip.

Had a song called Respect My Cripping. But where you're from doesn't beef with his hood, right? That on got, see, you listening to this little kid, X-4. You teach me. Right? X-4 is great, yeah. Listen to me. By nature, Crips, bloods, and power rules, red and blue wheat, automatic enemies.

Yeah. I don't give a fuck where you from. I just have so many people tell me that that's not really the case. No, that's cap. Now, you got just, that's the basic law. Then you got your main enemies. Right. The dudes on the blocks over from you.

Then you got your distant enemy because your neighborhood went to a skating ring and a neutral area and another neighborhood went and a nigga got shot and killed and the nigga from another neighborhood did it. That's your distant enemies. Then you got your internal enemies. Niggas is from your neighborhood you don't get a long way.

It's all kind of motherfucking enemies. Okay. And then some niggas is their own enemies. right so at the end of the day I fuck with who fuck with me I don't get the fuck why is rainwater a snitch you've said that no rainwater

no rainwater no rainwater's got a lawsuit he's a lawsuit you can't even remember nobody went to jail nobody just lawsuit oh you ain't called the police on nobody but uh-huh I just caught a party my baby mama not long ago so was that just a clubhouse opinion but no I don't think I said it

nobody said it no when whack on clubhouse he might say one thing He has 100 people said Yeah You're saying you want to get out With y'allel Bezzy Man, I can't say no name Man, let's FaceTime somebody

Man, let's get it started We need to do it for the black community No, for real though Yeah, man, I got to open Now you can't disrespect that for you I'm not disrespect to nobody You can't do that We can't because I'm in form of him

Yeah Why you say you're in form of him That's my little partner I fuck with Beas He always been alright with me He always been alright with me We didn't do this for the community You think you can win

Man I'm a beast You had a fight before? Yeah, I was busy at the zoo. I saw his partner and I'll fight at this. He fought a guy at the zoo in front of his kid. Yeah, I was locked up. That's crazy. I could hold my own.

Oh, what? Yeah, I was going to say, that's a pretty serious phone call to place. I can make it too. I mean, you are the great troublemaker. I'm not quite even hip-hop. He'll hang up in your face. Oh, he won't. I mean, I'll be trying, listen, one thing I always try to do,

I try to get in the room with somebody and gone, whatever happened and happened. You will not get in the room. rule with Beezie, cut the cat. This ain't clubhouse now, bro. That ain't you. Come on, listen. Listen, listen, we had a fight before.

That wasn't no fight. No, no, no, not that time before that. You sit on the door? Listen, I put him on his ass. They had him like plug talk style on all four. No, no, listen, listen. That nigg was on plug. They had you on all right.

Listen, listen. They did. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. You had a head up with. Yeah, before that. Yeah, listen, I told everybody, everybody in the city said I whipped his ass.

That's why he went back to the camera. I beat him up. myself. He had something to prove. Oh, that clip. Yeah, he had something to prove. But listen, at the end of the day, I thought I would get shot. I forgot, you forgot. You forgot. Rapples got shot. Here's shot. Here's side of the highway and everything. We told. Listen, listen, I told myself, if I can run to the middle of this street,

they can't shoot me in front of everybody. And then when I call them out, listen, when I call them up, I said, Mo3, they jump me. He said, ha, they jumped you. Yo. So you telling me, okay, you ran to the middle of the street. Yeah. So how did you get on the fours? Because my hip was broke. I got a, I got a hip replacement. Let me tell you like that. Let me tell everything started.

I walked from the next club. I seen Babeba, me and Baby was at the next club. They tell me, Mayweather is at V-Live. I just left L.A. because we went to the M-O-3, went to the Grammy Day 4. I walked there, got there, went in the parking lot set for 40 minutes. Everybody down from me up,

but everybody looking at me crazy. Like, what's going on? They think of Mo-3 there. They think we really don't earn the play. Guns stopped coming out. I said, what the fuck I'm going inside. I tried to go inside. I tried to go inside the security.

Say, hello. How long, rain don't go in there yet. He's ready of rainwater right here. Next thing you know, a nigger come outside with a Glock, then the door just open for the niggas. I never knew. The security is supposed to have glocks.

Yeah, no, no, no, it wasn't a securities. It's like they told the whole club rainwater outside, and the whole club ran outside. But that ain't got nothing to do with Bezzy? Yeah, yeah, I never seen. I never knew that, I never knew. I never knew that was him. I never knew what was going on.

You had a whole club, man. Yeah, I never knew what's going on. I'm at a whole club. How many people don't like you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you this. How they say rainwater outside, everybody went outside. You know, why?

Because they thought Mo Three was with me. I know, I rode that with by myself. It doesn't like Mo Three. I mean, Mo Three was a nigga that stood for something. I never madden. I never met him. Yeah, Mo Three was the person that stood for something that went across the... He stood for something and died.

He either going to stand for something or died for nothing. Yeah, but I will say this respectfully. Moe three was playing. Playing what? Listen to his music. Uh-huh. Me listening to Moe's music. Uh-huh.

And I forgot who turned me on to him. I said, man, this brother's serious. Like, I'm... Oh, yeah. He was the damn fool. But here go to the thing. When it came time forward, what he was rapping about,

he wasn't moving like that. It happens to Vaughn and all of them, having the park happen to our gangsters. Our gangsters get their day one day. What you mean? Every gangster get their day. Not a- He was more of a revolution.

Okay, put it like Von. Vaughn was a gangster too. You don't think Von was a gangster? He was playing too. I didn't know who King Vaughn was when he got killed. Okay, but after you listen to his music, you think he was playing too?

I don't, a nigger's music don't tell me that. Mo 3 was a homie, right? It was a blood, wasn't he? Yeah. So I would listen to his music. People was, you know, I just, when they told me how it happened, if that's how it happened, I don't know. Something about on the freeway and shades boom on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is what confused me. It wasn't on return fire. No, no, no, he couldn't get to it. He got out the call. That's right. That confuses me, too. Why, why?

Because it's never you can't get to it. Yeah. let me tell you this And a lot of that That's the part From his music What the perception was To how it happened

You know how somebody's stuck in between And you're trying to transition Knowing if you get pulled over That's the end of your career Then he was getting a little money right Yeah yeah yeah To have his team with him Nah no no you can't

You can't take a team to go fuck some hoarse But why you can Man nah he spent the night over with bitch house Okay Yeah yeah Yeah I understand that What you mean Yeah but now

Not a more. Worse come to worse, I'm rolling at 8 in the morning, nigga, be here. I'm rolling at 8 in the morning to be this 730. Yeah, he ain't going to let me let nobody know where you're exactly.

You know my team when I'm moving like that I'm moving. And we got to, you got to understand. This is a young dude that's just finally didn't know what type of position it was in. Yeah, well, I mean, you know,

you got to take it serious when it's serious. But now, no, no, let me tell you like this. Now, he wasn't playing. But they said you did some shit too, though. Nah, there's some shit Charles and White made up. I don't even tell me I took a gun at the car. Oh, you took his gun out of the box.

So right there when he reached for it? Yeah, he was there, but people don't know. I'm not going to never say where he was there and how it was there. But, you know, at the end of the dark. That's a piece of him, 43. But now, but he wasn't, do no plot. I fuck with Mozart. I fuck with music.

And Gazi loves him to death. Yeah. And I respect Gazi. You know, you respect Gazzar? Yeah. Yeah. You helped us, though, but, you know, at the end of the day. What did you think about Bobby now?

I thought you were going to start him about. I mean, Bobby Carman, I do what he asked me to do. I've been told him back the end. I think Bobby had a shot, but he got like Homeboy Management. E.J. I don't know who it is, but I just think he needs somebody else around him that can move some things. Man, that just listens to what I said from the get-go. I don't want Kyle Giles.

You fuck with Bobby? I don't want Kyle God and told Guy to sign by it. But I said, listen. What happened to the other orders you had like in the Carolinas or something? Maybe see? Somebody you were telling me about. I took him big over there to create and got him some money. They created?

But I cashed, I mean, you know, I took him to Corray. I got paid out there. But then, you know, it's an artist now there named Bumpy Johnson, the A-O-F-Kee. Okay. A little step on working with. But Bumpy Johnson, he heard of Big X. No. See me something on Baxter?

Big X the plug. He ain't ever heard Big X to Pug. He's very Cali-oriented. You heard of Shy belligerent? Uh-uh. See what I'm saying? Zoh-Sama? Uh-uh.

See what I'm saying? Peris Hill. Big X, the plug, is like, really big. Pairs Hill? Yeah. Now, she's from the South. Harris Hilton? She's hot.

She is hot. Not that Paris Hill. We're talking about the black pairs. Hill Tran. How about that? Hill Tran. You're trans. She's trans. No, she's not trans. She's a whole woman. Now, you're like her. I'm a senior music. That's what you got? No, I've just been working with her. Stunner called me today. He's going to, you know, I took like nine months off, but he's about to open up a bunch of budgets, so I got to go do a few projects. Them budgets. I love them budgets. It is what it is. Ryan Wanda. Ray Watt, see, I'm a cool nigga, you don't think I'm a cool nigga?

I fuck with you, Ray. You thought I was going to do something to you when I saw you. Tell the truth. They had you think of that dumb shit. No, he said he wanted me to have you pulled up. No, it was my mama, man. The mama? Yeah.

What's your mama name? Miss what? Willa. She was like... Miss Willa? She heard us going back and four? My grin and everybody. Oh, wow, really?

Yeah. What? My mama sits there and saying, my mama sits there and say, Granny Willa? Ms. Willa and Granny Willa, listen, you know what you gave birth to it. I'm just chilling with the homie. I ain't doing nothing.

You know the boy ain't right. Why you say it ain't right? You are antagonizing. Intagonizing? Nah. You dangerous because you antagonize, but you really ain't what would come with it.

Mama. Look at this. You remember this man? Hold it up to the mic if you could. Hey, Miss Willer. Huh? Let me say. From club house.

Hey, Miss Willer. Oh, yes, I do. Hey, how you doing? What did you say about him? Did he tell you what he did, tell me, Ms. Willa? Uh-uh, what did he do? Ms. Willa, I'm on TV, but he took my girlfriend, and I was really in love with her, and he went and told her all these things that wasn't true,

and then he kissed her, and she liked how he kissed, and then she came on Clubhouse and told me it was quits, Ms. Willa. So I just got emotional. I didn't mean nothing. by what I said to your baby boy. Oh, okay, thank you. Because, boy, I was really hot. You ain't going to say nothing to him for me, Ms. Willa,

but taking my girlfriend? I mean, that's wrong. He shouldn't have never did it. Tell him, Ms. Willa. And then he antagonized me. Talking about if you would have had hair, maybe you would have had a chance. Ms. Willow, I know you may not like this,

but I hope all his hair fall out one day, Ms. Willow. Yeah, my mom, I can let you go. This man, crayon. I take cried in my hair. Look. I'm trying to sit your mom on me. Somebody Photoshop whack with his haircuts. You just said something, though, to make me understand.

You just said, you said, he antagonizing, but then, listen, I out last the gangsters. But listen, listen, I outlast the gangsters. Let me say like this. So you in top competition with the gangsters? No, no, no, no. In that city right now, I've been, nigga, nigger, in that city right now since 2006, I've been the top person, me, at the end of the day. What, in Dallas?

Dallas, yeah. At the end of the day. So, so, listen, when you say you go call somebody? Wack, I put this on all my kids. Call them. No, I got my partner named Ball. Man, call him. I just got the phone ball this morning.

Now, that's true. Man, let's listen. You know, niggas, come on, bro, cut that out. What? You probably call on Ball. Ball on. I call on Ball. I'm big in a ball.

Call ball. You can fuck out of here, man. Yes, man, he's talking about the pit. Man, man, man, listen, whack, listen. Listen, whack, whack, what is the way. No disrespect. by it. Ball part of the state

prisoner movement. No, bow by itself. He's not by itself now. He lived like out of the way, like down south a little bit. Man, you got to see me. Like a acre. That's like that.

That's where I used to throw all the parties. You got a nice crib over there. I used to throw the party. I used to throw high school parties in them house. I used trashed them houses. So, Rain, what can we do? Why haven't you putting together a Chitlin circuit tour

so we can, it might work for what we want to do or the independent artist because we're about to do no jump to fire up the music department. So I want you. put together the Chitlin Circuit 10-15 stops

that we can do on up-and-coming artists. Come on, we'll make some good money. Let's make that happen. So basically you're saying you'll do a tour so we might hit L'Rock and then do our independent orders. Yeah.

We're going to pump it on no jumper, let them know they come and get them going. Yeah. How many tickets could Blueface sell in Dallas? Blueface and both his baby mamas? Okay, now you're asking a lot. What about this one? What about Jay?

No, no, no. Blueface and both of his baby mom was like two to three thousand kids. You see the new show. Look, we got a show coming to Zeus. And we got the Bad Girls Club, the Blue Girls Club coming to the Tronics Network, RayJ Network. We got 80 unseen shows that never was seen. We launched them. You know, we didn't break out of a network, too.

But you couldn't bring him in the Baby Mom. on tour. I just sold somebody that I'm glad you're here, though, because I paid a deposit today. What? Blueface and both his baby moms. I'm just like going to cost. I fuck with Jade. Yeah, she's a little more reliable. You know what? I can't say this.

I don't like the shit. The slick shit rock does. Around me, she's, you know, she's pretty cool. She listens to me. It's just the slick shit she does. Like, she ain't, it's no loyalty. She don't have no limit to what she would do. to a motherfucker that she's supposed to be good with. But I can't, you know, that's dick and pussy shit I don't.

But that'll be a bad mother. I'll pay 50,000. I'll give you $25,000 for we leave. That'll be a badass man that'll sit there. We get 50 for blue and jade. And like Utah markets. We're talking about Dallas. Yeah, but, nigga, that's a whole lot.

We can discuss it, but put together that situation. Me and Adam can tap into you. at the floor. Yeah, but what you're doing is perfect, though, at the end of the day because, you know, for all the independent artists,

you know, we got the 100 studios just around the corner. So we got all the booths and everything off so we can start it there. Oh, is it around the corner?

Yeah. I got anybody that I can pay for it? Who are I left there? Anybody. It's my, you know, my engineers and shit. You need a student and go away.

I thought you was in Vegas. Not what you mean. I thought you stayed in Vegas. You're thinking of Kee-D. No, he told me. One time I was at Bootsie Club, and he was in Vegas. Yeah, you're in Vegas, yeah.

We got a spot in Vegas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a big in Vegas. Oh, okay. Yeah, we got one of the, one of the tronics houses in Vegas. Yeah, I just had triplets in Vegas. He's got bunk beds and Floyd Manwell's house. You got kids, babies?

How old are the babies? They're one year or old, baby mom from Vegas. What size diapers are in? Five. Oh, boy. Oh, I read, you already told me. Yeah, I got some five. Okay, V.

Okay, V. Yeah. I got a slogan for you. What I? Incredibles diapers for kids who take Incredible shit. You always say some weird old white people. Okay, alternate for kids who take incredible do-dos.

A bit more brand safe. Yo, man. I still keep thinking about turning you into blippy. I got children's entertainer. I can't do it. You can do it. No, you... Wack 100.

No, but that's why it's... You know where I'm transitioning to, right? To a woman. You'll go to 1,000. I'm going to 1. I'm adding to 0. So you're not, so, so, so, so you're standing here now, no more gangster shit from him. So y'all, y'all can talk crazy to this man.

I just, and you get to shit shop back. That's what I told him when we first started doing this. I was like, you cannot bring any gangster shit into this business. And he said, I don't bring gangster shit into a business. And it sounded a little gangster the way he was yelling at me. I was raised a certain way. Bro, I'm really a boozy nigga. I ain't had a sidewalk front of me.

my house in 20 years. Yeah, not for real, right. Yeah. You know, my kids speak proper etiquette. My son, 29, I never heard him use a cuss word. Not to say he does it, I just don't hear it. Right, so I'm not

like, like, the ghetto makes me cringe. Yeah, for real. You know what I'm saying? It does. So when I say I represent the bitch-ass niggas, you don't understand what I'm saying, right? It's been a change. Back in the day,

the real niggas was that. It was the people the rappers looked up to. Remember when the rappers looked up to the street niggas? You can't call every rapper of real niggas. Hold on. Hold on, no, no. The rappers looked up to the real niggas. They was under the real niggas.

They wanted to be like them. Right? Example. Dude, pull up. Hey, man, give me a ride to the store. Give a real nigger ride to the store. Cool. Yeah, man, a nigga just did 10 years.

I'm out here. I'm outside. Pushing my line. I'm on swollen shit. I'm a real niggie. shit get to the stove. Amen, alone the real nigga, $20, so I can give me something to drink.

You come out, crack his drink on the way back to the park. Yeah, a nigga, real nigga out here doing the staying, my nigga. Now, what's up with that nigga whack? Oh, that bitch-ass nigga in Europe. What's up with that nigga, rainwater? Oh, that bitch-ass nigga on tour. Listen, my nigga, fuck with a real nigga. I'm at my mama house.

So the real niggas is really the broke niggas. The bitch-ass niggas, And they referred to it is niggas just getting to the bag and having their business. This is just so, you know, back in 2016,

if you go on them Instagram, I started hashtag in B-A-N. I'll represent the bitch-ass niggas. Because the real niggas is broke. Yeah. So that's why I wanted you to call a real nigga. Exactly. Yellow ain't broke.

I ain't never call them broke. He ain't broke. I ain't never call him broke. He ain't broke. But listen, last time I seen a rabble, you know what I did? Bitch-ass-niggin' fight.

I had them running down the spirit. bitch. You had who running down the street? Trapped boy, Freddy. Who? Is that the thing I just saw? Was he running? Hey, is that the dude I just saw?

Wait, no, that's a guy. You ain't going to kick nobody while. They're best friends. He's locked up right now. You had trap boy Freddy running out of street. I mean, he was a boarding a situation, yeah. Listen, listen, at the end of the end of the list. Or did you pay the nigga to do this kid?

No, I ain't pay nobody. Because Charleston told me you'd be paying these kids. Man, I'm too cheap. I'm cut though. We know that. I'm cut though. I'm cheap as fuck. so at the end of the day

and I ain't cut those nigga I would let a person know what I'm gonna do how to do it like straight up if you agree if you agree to something I don't told you

then how the hell I'm gonna ground for real running where's the fucking screen like y'all's slipping the crew is slipping we used to have a screen where Adam would take a little miles

no but they're watching it out there so we can't have it on here but why you go ahead holl of my man Lewis here having you can do it in both spots we should work on that that's a good point Gee whiz.

Yeah, so, you know, sometimes I don't know who the real nigga. Where are he at? He wailed over there. That's a trap-bred-free. Where? In the yellow? Mm-hmm. Who's that in the pink shorts?

That's more three cousins. Huh. So where are you in all this? I thought you were the pink shorts. He ain't doing shit. Ray Watt ain't doing that. Look. It's Trappeworthy.

See, this ain't. It's a clubhouse. Raywater can't talk that shit on clubhouse. Man, listen. You was a lot. No, no, no, no. Listen. Right, why you can't talk.

Listen, I see it. You what? No, no, no, no, listen, I seen him from the, no, his potter was getting beaten. I seen him from the giggo and says, damn, bro, we're going to pass each other and I see each other. We ain't say nothing to each other. I know we see each other right here. You ain't going to say nothing. We see me right here.

Let me ask you a question to see if you're going to keep it real. What? You think Bootsie out of line filing criminal charges against his brother? Not the civil, the criminal. Oh, that way he said we're in that clubhouse. Yeah. Man, let me tell you, man. Do you think he's out of line for filing criminal charges

the street nigger against his brother? If it was civil, I wouldn't have nothing. And I fuck the boo-staffir. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me tell you. On their situation, I don't know how their situation went. No, no, fuck that. He filed criminal charges. Not criminal.

I thought they sued him. No, criminal. Anything civil he filed, he's well and his right, I can get a fuck about. Right? Because his brother's a civilian. and you got to play with civilians like that. But Bootsy filed criminal charges on his brother.

Do you think he was out of line? If it's criminal charges, yes. Okay. This other dude, what's this dude? Tribe Boy Freddy? No, the yellow nigger. Oh, Yellow Bezzi? No, the other one.

That's the home. King. King. Oh, okay. He's talking about that, yeah. Do you think he's out of line for confirming things with law enforcement? He's a street nigger. That the gun was in his, his, uh,

No, that niggins said, he a GED, he a blood, here it is, he a... But I don't know the street nigger rules. You are never supposed to confirm nothing with law enforcement. Y'all don't know the street niggins. They tell me, Rangwater living Dallas? I don't know. Rainwater girlfriend named Michelle. So basically, it's a lot of streetnickers that's really not street.

I don't believe a lot of these people... It's a violation. So what happens when they get violated? I don't... See, the old rules. Per big you is. If you expose a person, you're supposed to do something to them. Listen, Wack 100 got a voice, okay?

We're changing the rules. What's the rules now? We have a new department. We're called the exposers. All we doing is exposes. Yeah, because people don't care. Maybe we want to laugh at you. Maybe we're giving somebody warning that's doing business with you that shouldn't.

And he said, oh, that's you. maybe somebody want to do something to you. That in our business. All we're doing is exposing. We come to your house. We say, hey, the rats are on this wall, on this closet. Now, if you open that wall up and that closet up, whatever you want to do with the rat is your business.

So, boom. So what you say about the street dudes are still hanging with the rats? Then you know, that's what that is. No, they don't get violated. That's what that is. If they know. If they know, they don't get violated. Supposed to.

So what's going to, like, so the real street rules don't occur no more. The streets is a myth. Yeah, I know it. You know, Troy Ave got that shit for me, right? Uh, yeah. No, he didn't. I just be trolling. But the streets is a myth.

I was thinking about it. I'm like, you really trying to take credit for that? Why? Well, maybe I would, white guy. Y'all took credit for building America, and you know, goddamn well, you didn't? I wasn't there. You ever hear, like, you shouldn't be judged by the sins of your father?

Bullshit. Apply that to the. the white race. Thank you. Captain Tizariot and the Hebrew Israelites says you should pay for your father's sins. Kiss the goddamn boot. You seen them do this shit right. I ain't Nancy Pelosi. I ain't kissing no boots. I don't care how cool their kufi looks.

They don't wear kutuzzi. I can't smooch the boots. You didn't see them on Instagram? Who? 500 deep. Who? One West. Marching all black brother, strength. One west was that? One west. Hebrew Israelites. Yeah. I-S-U-P-something. ISU, I can't you.

I can't say it because I'm a P-Roo. We don't put that alphabet after P. But why is you still, let's make a question. Why are you still claiming the shit? I don't claim nothing, nigga. Right. No fucking claimer. I'm part of that foundation.

That I'd never go away. Is that a street out here? Pahru's a street in Pai-Roo. I know some bitch-ass niggas claim Pai Roo down south. Oh, you know. Okay. I'm glad you put it down south. Listen, we're going to find them.

All over the world. I know, they claim the gangs out over the world for protection. And right now it's like a myth right now because like... What about Ballway said? Yeah. I don't politic anything has anything to do with a cripple of blood once I leave the West Coast. Yeah. Ever?

Never. People are claiming a street that they never even, they see what I mean? The Hoover's down south there. They ain't never seen the street of Hoover. Yeah. Because he put Tony Wilrich on. That's a lot. He don't know who Tony is.

I'm saying that. The nigga hated on me. He hated on you half. Yeah. I don't know. I guess. That was his manager. That's the gay, bisexual.

And he killed his career. He thinks I killed his career by getting him to drop his flag. Yeah, he killed this. I mean, when you're going to put out the little session you had with him? That's the big thing. That's my great finale for my porn career. Drop the Tony Willrich tape. Um, Adam.

Yeah. What was the reason for interviewing Rainwater? How did he get on your radar? Did he call you? I think Laura just asked me, do you want to interview Rainwater? I said, yes. You called somebody? I inbox him.

Did you inbox him? So you requested the interview. Yeah, see, he brought my name up in the... Yeah, we're talking about the trouble for anything. Yeah, at the head point. But he ain't chasing. So you're up here on false pretense. A nigga with pink shorts up to his thighs chasing.

No, I did my thing. Trapp boy Freddy, I don't know you. But the only bad thing I see about that is you ran for my nigga in pink shorts, high pink shorts that stopped right here. If a nigga would have had on regular clothes, I wouldn't hold it against you. Why you say that, man?

A lot of rappers, let me tell you like this. You know what I mean? The rapper sit there and believe, I mean, fans sit there and believe a rapper and crash that over a rapper. And crashed that because of beef that don't have to do it. All my rappers are for real.

I understand. They're all my rappers for real. Listen, I don't like the, I don't like the, I don't. Ray J. Included. Yeah. I just don't like the simple fact that, you know, some people would have this,

this image and this energy in a city where they're not even like that. You know, I'm gonna stand for something. You know, at the end day, when they come down to fighting, I was raising the same name with Earl Spinn. My little partner. You know, at the end of the end of the end.

No, no, no. I understand. So we did that. We did. That's what we did. We were the neighborhood. We came from. When they come down the guns,

I didn't meet the gun world until I met MO3, but they come down to fighting and jumping there. That's what we did our whole life growing up, from the 2006 to 2013, it might be 30 niggins, and we're lucky if one person had a deuce deuce in their pocket. So when he comes down to getting jumped

and beat up and doing out of this, that's what I did. But when I met M.O.3 and you come around these guns? Oh, yeah, I ain't on nothing about that. I never had to ride with no gun and nothing like that. You know what I mean M.O.3 was serious. So when they come down to fight, I'm not worried

about none of that. Oh, my biggest frigging, shot again. Oh, yeah, you're being shot. Yeah. Where do you got hit at? In my leg and my, Lower back. What Miss Wilma

say about that? Oh, she was devastated. Lower back is dangerous. Yeah. How close with it to your spine? It went through the side. Gotcha. When did you get hit, what,

nine or something? Three out of it. You know what I'm saying? My partner next to me, he got hit five times, protected me. He jumped in funny. He was in the car.

We were asleep. So, you know, that's my big story. Huh? I bowled up and... What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? No, I didn't know.

Some money? No, they tried to rob me. I always threw, after one of my parties, I always threw parties. Oh, so you had the money on you? Uh-huh. I was sleeping in the car because I didn't want to buy a hotel for everybody. See? See what being Stigy did? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you didn't buy hotels for nobody? No, he agreed, man. I said, we'll get your money, he agreed. We don't need a hotel. We would go to sleep and wake up and seven in the morning, pass out flies and leave. Oh, okay. And you know, I got shot, but, you know, I ain't never telling anybody. You didn't tell? You knew who did it?

Never till this day. But you knew who did it? Oh, what shit? You kept it real. I mean, you gotta be a street nigga that I tell. That's why they said that you did watch out. I was giving you a good example right there. He learned that shit from black.

I don't belong to me. I ask the question. You don't have to answer. So it's a difference from somebody who's a man. I robed by myself. I ride by myself. I know it's a chance. I come out and get jacked at any time.

I know what I didn't say and did to people and what I do. ride by myself. You know where you was coming? When? You know you coming the safe zone over here? No! No, they told me last night, say cheese and J-Man, a sister looked at me in my face and said,

your car might get broken to. That was on Melrose. Oh, okay, so yeah. Well, that's Hollywood. Nobody's got their car broken into over here. Yeah, so I never knew where we were coming, but at the end I put this on my kids. I stand for some of the daven.

I'm a man. I'm a man 100%. That's one thing I do like about Charleston White, Chawes and White is a man. We went places with him. When I was cool with him, he looked me in my eye, and I looked at in my eye if something go down, we go out to die and this all together. Let me answer to this.

If you're running in to grab a burger, do you leave your backpack in the back seat of the car? No, yeah, no. Hell now. You put that in the trunk or you bring it into the shit with you. How do you get your whoop's though? I thought you were from Chicago. Yeah.

What did you get us? Because they parked their cars in the back on Melrose, and within like 10 minutes some Jack Boys with masks came. on and they bipped the shit, broke into the car, took the bags. They got a camera and they got a laptop, which sucks, but also why the fuck you leave a camera and a laptop? In plain view, in a touristy-ass area of L.A., there's people who do this for a living. Nothing in the car nowhere.

Nothing. You do a Christmas shop, but they don't put that in the trunk or go to the next spot. You better take that shit home. And even when you take that shit home, they're coming in there too. I feel like the trunk is pretty safe compared to the back seat. Bro, the best thing to give out now is just money. What you mean? Nicky, look, you're going to spend $5,000?

Just give them to $5,000. Yeah. It's kind of, there's no thought. I can't lose no mother. It's not romantic. I ain't, listen, I ain't bringing no backpack, no charge, no keys. I just got on a plane like this. I just got on a plane like that.

Ain't nobody tripping, you, you know. You know, nephew ain't got the thing on you, man. He ain't tripping. Who ain't got the thing on you? Him? What did you say that? Nephew ain't got the thing on. He ain't tripping.

So did y'all, is that a lot? Is that a lawsuit done? No. You're going to drop it? Uh-huh. Shut me something. Huh? Uh-uh.

Shut me something. Something on it's something? I said, show me something. Uh-uh. How much is it's a lawsuit for? Um, it's up there now. A million $500? It's up there now.

More than that? Uh-huh. You don't want to settle? I ain't, man, you know, he reached out a couple times. But, niggas, stop back and look, what the fuck is a problem? Settle. Y'all, he did something? Y'all did something?

Settle, nicked. But you want to lead the people in the middle of it? What people in the middle? You're going to fuck right and run up attorney fees to a point to where you could have had that. Yeah, yeah, now, you know, I'm going to stand on something. What you mean, nigga, if he wanted to settle. I don't think he wanted, I don't know. I don't know.

He called him to meet him at the police station the other day. Come on, bro. You ain't got that. Yellowdezzi said meet me at the police station. I put it up my kids. We ain't doing that. Because he wanted to negotiate. We're not doing that.

I don't know what he did. They said they want, he said, you ain't got the content. I make a phone call. He sit there and say, I make, man, I make a phone call right now. He sat there and said, I got this phone call three times. Man, we were meeting a safe spot, meet us at the police station,

we have a conversation. I got, man, I got... But that's for you. For me? They didn't meet you anyway. He just trying to let you go down on the bullshit. My fact, this is what we need to do. This is what we need to do.

No, no, no, no, I'm looking at your eye. I'm looking at you, this is what we need to do. I'm going to fly you out there. When y'all do that, I want you put me in a room with anybody that you think I don't need to be in the room, just me, you and them. And at the end of the end of the end of, for the kids in the situation because there's too much

bullshit going on, too many lives. Listen, we're talking about it. No, no, we're talking about no money. I'm talking about not no money that got to do with them. I'm talking about me, you, and whoever, so we can get this. So what's that happened? You're dropping you? I'm just saying, me, you and anybody else.

When you're dropping a suit? I'm just saying me, we're going to meet. You don't want to drop a suit. And maybe we're going to meet. Come on, man. So you pretty much identify Beezing. Mm-mm. You had to put him in the suit?

Anybody sell. How? I did it. I beat him up. I beat him up That would he say You turned it in the video No it was overwork

No You put it I put that on my kids He put insurance on his self Because he went back to the video After everything happened You ran back to the video I said

I beat him up By myself I beat him up And you took it in file No no no no no No no no no You had to file No no no listen

When he said that Nothing else We're the best of friend Nothing happened Yeah man I'm hurt Yeah I'm filed Yeah.

Ain't nothing else doing, said and done. So you pulled a 40-glot. I ain't pulled no 40-glot. She did. Because you got to get on the stand and point him out. Yes, you do. Shit. You're a fucking lie.

You do. I've seen it because I was in game shit. They're going to ask you to identify the dude. Do you see the guy in court that beat you up? And you're going to have to point him out. So is that Carlson, what's Kyle? Yeah, that's telling it at that point. That's telling.

If you had just had a thing, Whatever, whatever, you ain't doing that? Oh, it's a lawsuit, yeah, it's a lawsuit. It's not no criminal. But won't you settle so you ain't got to go on record getting those stands, point niggas out. That's telling. Somebody just came in.

D.W. Flame says a snitchin. That's telling. That's our L.A. representative. Listen, all bullshit aside. I set in on bro-shed in these situations that's assault-style civil suits, you have to get on the stand. They're going to ask you, the judge,

is going to ask you, can you identify the guy that did this to you? You're going to have to point him out on record. So what I'm telling you, why we just don't settle out of the court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, won't you just fly down there and then we'll try to make something happen? Then you're going to drop the suit? I let's just fly down there trying to make something happen. You stop asking me that damn questions. They just fly down there as a question.

Oh, bro. Yeah, I'm just saying, though. I mean, you would drop the suit? I'm just, I'm just, my nephew, what? I'm just saying you fly down there and let's make some happy. We need to be in the same room. Who? You and him? Yeah, me, you and him.

To have a discussion? Man, whatever we have. No, because then you followed nothing. I ain't filing no. No, because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you put insurance and no camera supposed to be involved. I ain't never seen a street nigger run back and tell the camera what he did. Well, if something happened, what had happened to him two days later,

well, that's what you. He said he did that. I ain't never seen a street nigger run to a camera and say what he did. Okay, you get in the way. No, have you? From what we talked about? So you wouldn't take the static point him out? No, he put him out.

Listen, he put that on his neighborhood. Listen, he put that on neighborhood cripped that I beat him up by myself and he'd a jummy. Listen. You brought your click up. So, are you willing to get on the stand to point him out? Are you willing to do that? For real, bro, like, because you don't seem like that type of nigger. This is why I'm saying settled.

I ain't saying, don't get your bag. But keep yourself for going on record like that. Yeah, yeah, understand. But listen, yes, yo, come down. We just need to have you. I mean, this is pendent. like, Yeah, I can call

and set up. Yeah, when he camera get out, yeah. Why didn't you meet him at the police station? Yeah, I'm going to show you some. That's just him saying, Hey, Tickets. Hey, tickets. Hey, tickets.

I've been, I've been probably messing with me like that. You could have been in a baby space. No, no, see, see, let me tell you about Dallas. See, some people don't get involved in their situation, and they just stay neutral. I, me and me and baby, no, people, the only person that try to get involved in that situation to make it come to the end where we're from

meet and nobody else wanted to meet with Jay Prince but he probably Do we fuck with Prince like that? Yeah, he'd be around Julian a lot of time Is Jay Prince shown interesting Trying to work on this problem? So why it didn't happen?

The senior did. The senior came in most three house three or four times They didn't want to meet up That's what I wish I've been screaming that for years Put us in the same room I put that on all my kids Because at the end day the city divided

And I can make way more money In the city one divided You got all these old little O'Cliff kids over there that I can help get deals right now and you got the North Dallas kids that I can help get deals right now but at the end of the day with the E2 individuals right there

that making it seem like O'Clyph came forward with North Dallas and no other than I can't focus with Oak Cliff yeah I need this shit to end because at the end of the day since I was sick when I was 17 years old I ran the whole city when everything was equal everybody made money so they had to call me for deals You never ran the whole shit

fucking Dallas, man Fuck out of here Man let's listen listen I don't know let's listen let's listen I don't know let's listen I don't even I didn't even fucking dollars I'm a cowboy, and I'm not letting you get to the... You might have been doing little parties.

No, no, no, no, no. You're not capable of running nothing down. Hello, whack, hello. You ain't even a street nigga, bro. Man, I ain't now one of them niggas down there street niggas. We ain't even saying they ran it, but you didn't. Listen, listen, sister, a stank. You did not.

Oh, look, hold up. Whack since the stanky leg. When baby he puts play and all that dance, all the guys, I call the row right now. So you're talking about clubs? Clubs, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking to music. Say you. I'm talking to, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not going to let you do the Dallas niggins like that. Babe, babe, I mean, I'm not talking about clubs. I was the ones to help moving the music, taking it to the, this place. When I got locked up, everything died. Say you as a plug for music. I can't dispute that. No, no, that's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about. I need to get these two out the way because if this side can connect with this side, I can make a shitload of money. They don't even got to connect. This dude is going to do. No, no, no, no. Everybody's scared to go to the club. I'm scared to go outside.

That's everywhere. Yeah, yeah, but I don't need it. Rap music is your day as fucking. The promoters is calling me saying, whack, you got some more MB? Because people are tired of getting robbed and shot after the club. Yeah, I don't need it out there. Because at the end of the day, yeah, I want to let it be known that I'm from their side of town.

But you ain't part of their movement. Man, I started that. Man, listen, bro, listen. You ain't. Listen, listen, listen. I can see in your eyes. Listen, listen. You are not prone to violence.

Yeah, listen, listen. That's not you. Yeah, I'm going to talk about that. I ain't saying you won't fight. No, no, no, I'm not talking about no damn violence. Ain't no violence going on at the end of day. How many times a nigga just didn't slap the shit out of you? Never.

Fuck out of here. Only time I got beat up was your other bees. No, I didn't say beat up. No, slap the shit out of you. We ain't talking about everybody that's see, but you know what the nigga. No, no, listen, I had enough sense to surround myself with this and that where I never had to go through that. Well, you went through it because you was on all fours. I didn't get shot.

A nigga was playing Dallas Cowboy and field goals. Yeah, and I see in the most of your. I seen the motherfucker, I seen the motherfucker, a car flipped by four times. Yeah, at the end of the day, so I ain't never get shot. I'm scared about getting shot. He's a more,

he's Charles and White in a different form. He's going to talk his shit. He can talk real fast. He'll articulate himself, and he knows how to dance and get away from something he don't know how to talk about. I just know his movement,

so I know how to keep his ass while I want him. But you're pretty good at what you do. But don't say you ran Dallas, man. The music. The music, yeah, yeah, the music. It's a small area, right? That's a big, hell no.

Like, all that's things considered, though. Hold on, hold on, hold on, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack. I'm a cowboy, nigg. Yeah, whack, way, because I was a kid, I had a dividend and down to all the good, the hoods, you know. Yeah, that's cool. I made money out of the street niggas since I was a kid. And listen, I don't believe. That's hustling.

Listen, listen, I have seen more street niggers most scarier than a suburb niggas. straight up because a street nigger ain't gonna fly to L.A. with no gun with jury on but at the end of the day but you would find a suburb dude just say man anything that goes I'm going out there I'm chasing. That's why most B&A's is richer than the street

niggas because the street niggas are scary straight up that's why more people are... This what we're going to do right? You're not a street niggins. Hell no, they die. They die. So you're going to keep street nigginess shit out your mouth because you try to belittle niggas fun the streets.

And you're talking to a street nigga. Nah, you just said you weren't a street nigga. Oh, no, I said I'm about a game bag. Yeah, game back. Yeah, yeah. I'm still, you know, I'm... You're not a street nigga. No, hell no, no.

You couldn't last 45 seconds. Where? In the midst of some street politics. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. You're a hustling. No, no, I understand.

Never let me tell you. And the nigga respect you're in a hustling. Yeah. You know who was a hustling What the street, nigga? Who? One of our freeway wrecked. Yeah, yeah, so let me ask you questions.

One of our great. Let me question. So, look, Nothing wrong with that. Have you ever, have you ever went to a club? Most managers are most streeter than the rappers.

I ain't gonna lie to you. No, no. The role managers? Yeah, yeah, they say, yes. Oh, I don't, bro. That's where I'm one of a kind. Mm-hmm. And you see it.

Mm-hmm. Marters go to jail, whack in court. Yeah. Whacked. So let me ask you questions. I'm hands on. So let's ask you. A lot of management companies, day, like.

Yeah, but have you ever had to get out the car and go get a back end when you know the motherfuckers, they even got the back end? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got the whole club knowing they might be crips and bloods and politics. But there's the end of the day, you got to stand like a man and sit there and count of money but some people that you know that we try to rob y'all. Yeah, yeah. So at the end of the day, it ain't not be no street niggled, but it's just a grown man.

That's business. Yeah, yeah. That's always kind of fascinating. The manager's got to be gangsters. The manager's got to, because the artist, they got to walk around with a hundred niggers. But the manors got to go in the back room and count their money with a bunch of guns on here.

Knowing that you might not make it out of her, don't let the whole club. That's the top. The promoter doing business. He needs the artists to come in so he can make his money. Come on, no, no. One time the whole club Folded on Mo3 and somebody died.

You read me? And I'm in a... I think that started with Moly through? No, no, no, no. It started a lot of people. Like, it started a lot of people. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, sometimes,

people are tricked because they believe that a lot of rappers are street niggas or a lot of street niggas are really street niggers. I look at rappers first and foremost as entertainers. Right. Now there's some rappers that are street niggas. Right. For instance.

Who a rapper? Ice Cube would tell you, I started this gangster shit. Right. He's not talking about the streets. Right. He's talking about the art of gangster rap. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I champion Cube Mm-hmm.

Right? For being a great reporter of the streets and never going to jail and being successful as he's been, right? Based on the hustle of the street. You know what? In jail right now, most street niggins don't sneeze. Niggas, it's, niggins telling everywhere.

You're not going to get me, listen, you're not going to get me to argue the street niggas tell. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they tell. But at the end of the day, let me tell you like this, That street shit is a myth. No, the streets today are men. But they are very real.

But that's why I live in. I'm talking about today's time. You know? They're very real today. Yeah, yeah, but now it's a myth to me. No. It's certain situations. You went in.

Yeah. And I told him he coming and strip him. They're going to strip him. Yeah, I believe that. I'm going to be a dumb ass to take my ass over there to them damn parts. So don't go to talk about shit to the myths. The rest of the out here. Yeah, yeah.

This par root crippling blood shit is for real. This Southside essay. shit is for real. Yeah. This Asian shit is for real. This shit for real. Take your ass to at least leave here at this time of night and go to East LA walking at Lisa Village.

Watch what happened. I believe it. That's a neighborhood. But I'm saying at the end of the day, in the world that I live in, in the street niggas that I live in, and the street niggas that people see in kids, see people on kids don't see them type of street niggas on television or Instagram? No. It's definitely done a 360.

Yeah, yeah. So right now. The street nigg will look up to the rapper. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So right now, when you talk about streets, we're talking about in today's time. So, so, so.

That's why I represent the bitchy. Yeah, yeah. So, so, so, so, so, all you don't switch. The real niggas ain't win it. Adam, he don't switch four times. No, I ain't never switch much. You told me I am a street, real street, nigga. No, I'm a street.

Yeah, yeah, I understand that. 34 years, though, how are you? I'm 32. I got two more years longer than you've been living in the streets. Yeah, so like I said, the streets is a myth now. What they were, what they used to be, Based upon what it is today, yes, definitely. Yeah, I know it.

But not everywhere. At the end of the day. In some place you will go to that. Hey, y'all, look, I'm glad y'all seen this. I don't want this argument, Wack. Wack done's went around the table, then it came back to what I just said. No, I prohibited you for speaking on the streets the way you tried. Listen, today's streets is no.

You heard with that little youngster, D.W. Flane came in here and did? What? Because he is street nigger. What do? That's telling. What do it do? What do it do? If you get on that stand in the civil court and point that figure in yellow.

I ain't no street nigger. That's tough. I ain't no street nigger. You're saying you're going to do it? I'm a nigga. I ain't no street nigger. Are you going to point the finger? I don't know.

I ain't no street nigger. You're going to point the finger? Yeah, I ain't no street niggas. I ain't no street nits. Are you going to, yes or no? Man. You're dancing. I ain't dancing.

Any other time else I ask you a question you answer. Yeah. Will you point the finger when it comes out to it at Yellow Beasie? Yeah. There you go. So let me ask you a question. still think we need to negotiate. Yeah, we need to come to Dallas.

No, for real. Oh, you're going to come to Dallas? Your work? I mean, I ain't no problem to come with that. I'm saying. That's negotiate. Like, what you want to do? Like, you know, that salty?

He's going to be hitting up some diaper. He just got kicked in the ass, bro. It ain't that bad. Yeah, man. Certain thing where it happened to him, and there was a lot of other shit going on this shit. So, you know, yeah. Listen, listen.

You see your ass hollies at the moon. Like a coyote, dig it. Shout out to the coyote. Listen, listen, I survived that day. I died as the bull. in Guant, huh? I dived a bullet. I survived that day.

Yeah, but you got, boy, that shit was, we clout your ass on clubhouse with that shit. Man, I was... You ran out that room so fast. I was scared for my life. We put the motherfucker clip up top. He said, is that you? No, I was scared for my life.

Maybe people getting shot. You were not scared of shit. People were getting shot left and right out there. Come on, bro. You ain't got to work with you going to be. Nope. What did you think I was? Why do you think I ran if I wasn't scared?

Huh? Why you think if I ran that I wasn't scared? You didn't, I mean, maybe you were just going for your nightly jog. I was terrified, man. I was terrified, man. People, them probably's getting shot out there. Man. That's everywhere.

Yeah, but shit. So what you got up next, bro? Bumpy Johnson. Bumpy Johnson? Mm-hmm. What's it that O-G Bobby Johnson? No, T-T-O-D. What does that mean?

T-T-O-D. Some of the, I don't know. Some of the clique. O-G. J-R-E-J-J-S. You don't know what the fucking mean? Yeah. T-T-O-D-B-Bop-Joncy.

A-O-O-F-K-2. You know. Listen, right now, you know, right now I'm selling skin. Okay. So, slang and iron? Yes, Abe. We're doing that. Yeah.

We're slanging iron. Right, Rock? You know, I'm sitting on this side of the desk, right? I know, it's totally weird. I'm talking to the back of your head, looking at your neck rolls. But this was good. I got to catch my flight. You're going to a chest fly into me.

You out? Yeah, what's up? The homie, we did a great interview. Let's go, game. Scog gang in the build. This bust ass nigger from your city ain't going to shot you out

but Skow gang is in the build See what type of nigga is you? I already shout out. You ain't shouted out shit. Yeah, I really shout out. Skow gang in the build my nigga. Scor gang. Do you do good business with you?

Yeah, we did a great interview. I gave a nigga no no limits. We didn't even go live though. We didn't even go live in due to. Yeah. He was another country.

I'd do it at noon. I don't know why I was that. You know, I'd be moving around. Yeah. What's the name? You were D.D.G. It was some kind of, it was growing loud. I'm gone.

I got to go with San Francisco. Oh, Kylan. Yeah, I appreciate you so much, Doug. For real. Hey, we're talking about three hours. Everybody check out the next episode of the Adam and Wack show featuring DW Flame. We're about to film it right now. We're about to film it right now.

Dina! Massive, massive thanks to Rainwater. That was an amazing interview. Basically, two halves of it. Normal fucking conversation with me and him and then the Wack show. Hey, can we take a picture real quick? No jumper. We out. Like that. Click the like button.