No Jumper - Ralfy The Plug on Falling Out with OTM, Soulja Boy Dissing Drakeo, Shoreline Mafia Reunion & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:06 No jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. It's 423. And I'm in here with the stink team. Ganging them no lines with them. Stinks in this. We know the truth. How are you guys feeling?
Starting point is 00:00:19 Trying to keep it together, you know. My brother's birthday was just two days ago. Long live the truth. Oh, huh? Yeah. Wait, before we get into anything more serious, though, like you were just asking me, oh, I had him. You got a bunch of wax in front of you where you just tossed us in the
Starting point is 00:00:36 Blunt. Yeah, put that in a blunt. Give it a little extra little. Rossin, not what? Rosin. What's the difference? I don't know. Big difference. But there's gas right here. See how light it is? Yeah. You want the light. You don't want the dark? I remember in the early dab era, everybody would be just run around with a big old can of wax before they had it in the stores and shit. That got a sweet tarts logo on it. Yeah, this is. That's crazy. I didn't really get into it like, until like, what, six, four months ago?
Starting point is 00:01:04 That's when I started going. He got me on it. Because it's just a way to make the blunt hit like 10 times harder, right? No, when you're smoking, we over and over and over, you just be smoking just to smoke. It's like, I'm not even getting high no more. Right. Because I smoke spliffs. I kind of got off the woods a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And now, at this point, I kind of realize that once in a while I'll take an edible or I'll take a dab. And then I realize, like, oh, you're not really getting that high most of the time when you're smoking. And then you do one of these things, and you get really fucking high. You get the real high. hallucinating ass like watching YouTube videos just like you know it's just a different level you know no cap you got to keep it interesting I see got your empty P drip on man it's my boy Zach right there shout out this is reversible I'm rocking it like this today I'm gonna turn it inside out rocking another way tomorrow it looks dope appreciate it yeah you know I had the first Zach
Starting point is 00:01:56 interview back 2015 2016 probably got the first everybody interview but but Zach like I don't even know if he did one since then like you see him on yeah you don't see his face You've seen some profiles of the studio or the warehouse where he ships a sh** out of, but I don't think he's really sat down with somebody for an hour since then. Yeah, hell no. He's incognito. He's like in the way, but out the way at the same. He's lucky.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I look up to him because to be able to have that kind of life where you make a bunch of money, you sell a shipper product. Everybody knows your brand, but then your face is not really recognizable like that. You and me don't have that choice. No, I hate being a rapper. You got to be on social media. You got to do music videos. You've got to be on camera all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You can be on stuff. stage, it's dope to be rich and not really that famous. I wish I could have took that route and just been a businessman first. Now I got to be a businessman slash rapper. It's like, it's good for the business, but if I would have did the business first, I've been cool. That's got to be part of the plan as a rapper is how you're going to create a brand or a product that then once you're 45 years old and you don't feel like being on camera all the time,
Starting point is 00:03:01 you could still push it, you know? Yeah, you can still push your brand off of your, um, off of your, um, off of your I think the Stink team is that Yeah we got a whole The Stink team is like a brand itself It's just like when you hear the Sting team It just sound like a brand Yeah, it's just all about
Starting point is 00:03:16 What's that about what you do? What? It's like even if you It's like when you say the Stink Team It's all what's that I probably heard about that We've seen a whole generation The kids who grew up wanting to be part of that shit
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah Some of them it didn't really work out so well Some of them I did No You know how that'd be Pick a side That's why You want money or are you on cloud
Starting point is 00:03:41 So okay last time we did an interview I had a very noteworthy Exchange for the dude Who was managing you of some sort at the time Angel And it was viral Everybody was talking about I remember the TikTok
Starting point is 00:03:54 I think that was my first TikTok That had a million views Where is he at? Is that not a situation anymore? I don't know what he's doing I know what I'm doing Stink team doing I don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So how do you even end up having him be managing you? Because, I mean, you know, you have people. Well, to me, the manager is anybody that can do answer a phone. If I tell him to, like, you know, here I answer a phone or here's somebody about to hit you up about this verse. So anybody can do that. You know? Because, like, no shots at him, but during that interview, it was weird because me and you had had words with each other before the interview. but then we like kind of talked
Starting point is 00:04:35 got cool doing the interview had a pretty cool vibe like you're kind of giving me a little bit of a hard time and I'm kind of fucking doing the interview but then he was just gassing it up and I got pissed as fucking people got to see me get out of character you look like you guys were going to fight I'm like damn they're
Starting point is 00:04:50 fin of take it there man they're used to seeing me be a snarky rude sometimes but they're not really used to see him just really like turn up on somebody and tell them to pipe down and so that was kind of unique I'm gonna take it there. I'm like, damn, I'm trying to ignore you guys.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'm like, oh, y'all going there. Right. So when did that situation end? With the little dudes. So when O.T.M left, he left with him? Yeah. Did he come into the situation with them? No.
Starting point is 00:05:19 No. Hell no. Okay. So, all right. So how did that situation happen with them even getting down in the first place? And why didn't it work out? I mean, you know, business is business. Like, you know, some people don't really know the business,
Starting point is 00:05:37 so they just say things out their mouth and then change their minds later on in life, you know. But me, I don't change my mind. Once I got a certain thought or I'm about to say I'm going to do this, that's what I'm going to do. Right. But, well, I guess they decided they didn't want to sign no more, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Right, that's what Doug was saying. You see how I brought them on the platform. I brought them with the, Like I was pushing them as if they were stinting. If they were to came off if I don't want to sign a stink team in the first place, they wouldn't have got all them opportunities. You know what I'm saying? I would have treated them like how I'd treat everybody else.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Right. It's almost exactly like what happened with Draco and Remble. Yeah. Kind of worse. Because they played the part as if they was gang in them, and then they said, oh, no. Right. We're going to go sign these...
Starting point is 00:06:32 deals on the low and go get paid. But if y'all was signed, then y'all was just supposed to give up the 20%. But instead they gave it to the manager. Right. Yeah, and I don't know if I think that's a good idea on their part because I'm going to be real, like, them being part of the whole Stink Team thing,
Starting point is 00:06:50 I feel like that was pretty much crucial to people for them. And I haven't looked to see what their views look like now or whatever, but I definitely haven't really heard people talking about them the same way that they were talking about them a lot when you guys were all rolling around together. have to push. I got the whole the jump start. Yeah, that's a danger
Starting point is 00:07:08 of trying to like take people's careers from the ground up is that sometimes you give them the sauce and like it just doesn't It's like taking somebody to the field for the first time they get their first little money. Now they think like they're on the same level. But it's like, bro, you're going to have to get
Starting point is 00:07:24 weighing my money than that first check to catch up to this type of shit. Right. Yeah, it's a weird situation because a lot Like they start to get some kind of like knowledge of what's going on in the game. And they start having people tell them, oh, don't sign to a rapper. You know, sign to Atlantic, sign to Columbia or whatever, just signed to a label. Don't try to have anybody else in between that.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Our deal was kind of more not like you're not just signing. You're getting a, you're getting the sauce. Like you learning the game. Like when you sign to a label, they're not going to teach you the game. They're not going to teach you how to collect. Don't ask cap teach you how to recoup your money on sound exchange. and get your money from content ID and all that type of that. I'm not going to teach you that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 They're just going to sign you. They're going to whip you, and then you're going to find out stuff later on. Then you're going to complain about it. No, we teach people the same, you know, as we're learning. We're still learning too. But we teach you what we know as they go. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Damn. So, okay, what was up with that video of them getting jumped and their chains taken or whatever? Oh, no, I don't think that was no video of that. There was, like, surveillance camera footage. Oh, no, they were just. Him and Bulls has, they was just fighting them, some, some shit like that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Nah, hell, no. You weren't there for that? No, hell, no. Okay. How, like, so you guys fell out bad with that angel dude, though, right? Because I've seen a clip of him talking all kinds of shit. Yeah, I feel like I didn't fall out with no, but I really just do me. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I never really pay attention to, like, the internet antics. Okay. Do you think that you're an easy person to work with, or you think that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Keep the plug. I don't be doing it. I just be chilling.
Starting point is 00:09:06 See, I don't know that side of you or how you are to work with, but you are the brother of someone who, as much as he's a legend, definitely not the easiest person to work with. Oh, yeah, he don't. You got to remember, I was doing the talking for him. He didn't really, he don't talk to him.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I don't care about this. Like, I'm more on the business side of shit. Like, I kind of, like, know what's going on. Like, but not really know what's going on. But I know. enough to hold a business conversation about music. Like without it being weird or nobody feeling like they're getting finessed. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's good. Yeah. Because that was definitely, you know, Daco was just, like, we started to see him networking more and socializing and being in the club and all that type of shit more, like later in his life.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But for sure, like, you know, networking is a huge part of becoming a big rapper. And he just did not give off. He was just like the realest person. Yeah, he didn't care about no features, know who pop in
Starting point is 00:10:03 he didn't care about nothing that right money jewelry and just whips and that's all you really care about facts that's why when we seen like the sweetie video it was just like how did this happen yeah that was a good one right you know he wasn't like sliding up in her
Starting point is 00:10:22 DMs like let's do a song and he was just so regular just stare at the video she was just chilling like you know too impressed about definitely So, yeah, I mean, you were talking a little bit about keeping the truth alive and everything before, but what, like, from your perspective, what's the main ways that you go about doing that? Because I had a lot of people, like, you know, talking to Jay Diggs the other day about, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:47 keeping Mac Drey's legacy alive and like that. And it's kind of like that with Draco, where it's like, if you just ignore it, then there's nothing for people to hold on to. They're still going to talk about them, but it's going to be more limited. Whereas, like, you know, there's so much that you could do to kind of keep his... out there. You see them doing a lot with Nipsey and shit, which is cool. I try to just keep his name around, just keep talking about him, drop songs, every blue moon, create videos and shit that people never seen and kind of upload them and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And then, like, on the 18th, we're doing a party for his memorial. And then just, like, invite certain people to his birthday parties and shit like that, like certain and then I always put his face on merch. Right. So, a little shit like that. Does it make sense to, like, have his own merch just permanently available online and the way they do with Nipsey?
Starting point is 00:11:42 We could do that, but the state will have to do that. In the state, that's still going through its little court situation. So it's not as simple as it just being, like, you working with it? I would rather it be the the state running it. So if all the money, that, if it's like a clothing line from his name, actual name and benefits for him, I'd rather it just be like going straight to him.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Not like it's just some stink team merch. Right. For sure. Okay. So the other thing I want to, oh yeah, so there was an OTP's song that they put out and you got a taken down, right? You know, business is business. So what was your mentality on that? Because I'm sure that meant a lot to them.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And y'all said y'all not stint team you all don't want to you know so business is business you know damn so you feel like you're really inhabiting this heartless businessman role or you just feel like they're fricking around by even doing that in the first place like they knew you would probably do that right they already knew they just want the test to see if like we already told you y'all just want to play internet games you know posted complain after you know it's going to get took down and cry. Yeah. Does that go for everybody out there who got an unreleased Drago feature?
Starting point is 00:13:06 If you got a feature, then get it cleared. Go through the procedures to get it clear. You know what I mean? Some of Draco songs, I don't let you drop because they got it clear. And they're going to get it clear by me. You got to get it clear by their state. Are there still like...
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's a decent amount of Drakeo songs. So there's a lot of verses that potentially, you know, if Drake said, like, I want to put a Drake Overse on my next album, you'd be able to say, like, all right, we got this one, this one, and this one like that. You're just kind of keeping on ice in case something like that happens?
Starting point is 00:13:38 It's a couple opens. The opens I don't touch. I only songs I dropped was the songs I got, and then he got features, but certain features, I can't drop. So they'd be wanting certain songs to drop, but I'd be like, yeah, there's no sign. Ozuma, that's Ozuna.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You know what I'm saying? He got a wrong. random playboy court you got Torrey Lane's versus he got like certain people it can get clear but certain people it's like who the hell do I contact to get this clear right but they'd be one in those ones I was like damn I can't drop them
Starting point is 00:14:11 damn is it true that you made OTM give the chains back I think Adam crazy I mean that's just word on the street hey man I don't do nothing man oh I don't do nothing I wouldn't be surprised if you're wearing one of them right now. Just secretly flexing on them.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Nah, I don't care about those little dudes. No? Come on, I'm in a different, like, watch the chain, like, small time. So it's not real beef? Like, if you see them as a weird? I never said it was beef. They just went to the internet and acted like it was like a, whoa, fuck those dudes.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Right, damn, I'm the one gay. You all the shit I basically got. Right. Can't say fuck me. It's like being mad at your daddy, like, you know what I'm saying? It don't work like that. Right. Damn.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So, like, if they were to sincerely apologize, you wouldn't be willing to just like squash it, go back to rapping together and shit? They're too big-headed. You think? They don't think they did anything wrong. So that's where it starts. If you don't think you did that role, you feel like there's nothing to apologize about. They think I should be apologized. Do you think that your behavior was all peaches and cream the whole time?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Or did you get out of, in your feelings at a certain point? If you know, you know, like, I don't even, I hardly care about shit. So if I'm telling you about something, I mean, it's the reason, you know? For sure. Because Ralphie's just not going around just telling people about themselves. I don't tell grown ass men about their self. I've been to jail. I don't like niggas telling me about myself.
Starting point is 00:16:05 What did you learn in jail that changed you? How do you deal with people on the outside? That. Everybody's cappers. Really? Everybody got the Maserati on Fogis. Everybody. And niggas got jets on Fogiados and everybody millionaires.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And you see them on the streets and you be like, this niggas is a smoker. Like, that's what I learned. People are not who they say they are. Like somebody can go to Jee. and be the toughest dude, got a squabble, know how to fight, and now he's respected as this joint. But on the streets, who the fuck is this, nigga?
Starting point is 00:16:47 But in jail, you got a little squabble on you, you kind of not turning down phase, you kind of a real nigga. You could be King Tut. Right. On the streets, fresh out, that's the nigga that'd be off the bag again. He keep coming back and forth.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It's hard to hide it when you're broke. On Instagram, especially the way shit is now and especially the way that a lot of people that we know feel the need to have like constant new outfits and shit like that. It's just easy to pick it out. It's like, to me I feel like, like, it's like it's easy
Starting point is 00:17:19 to be something on Instagram whether than being that same person on the streets, not even in the streets, the real world. Like, you can be this cool person on the internet, but then you can walk in the real world. And you're like, what? is this, nigga, like, you don't get the same respect.
Starting point is 00:17:38 It's like, it's like kind of like trolls. Like, just imagine them trolls. You walk in the party. And trolls just start, you go, swoopty-whoop, yelling out with crazy. That's how they is in the comment section. You can't do that in the real world. Probably every time you ever performed,
Starting point is 00:17:54 there was at least one person in the audience. That's a troll. Or got in your comments and said, like, oh, you a bitch or whatever. Like, those are your fans. They might have just been having a bad day. they know it's not going to catch up to them, so they just let you hear it. I figured it out with that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I'd be like, all right, let me go live with you so you can tell me about myself. And then they go lie. They'd be like, no, I was just playing around for you. I'm a fan, man. I just wanted to see if you was going to respond. Right. I'd be like, I'm done. Like, every time I go live with somebody who's saying, fuck me, they're really fans.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, at a certain point, you got to just kind of let go of it and just be like people are going to feel however they're going to feel about it. No, you can't care about the internet. See, I know how in real life, how much people fuck with me. So I really don't pay attention to the internet. Like, I go off of, like, when I see in person. Because I know somebody would say something on the internet, but wouldn't whisper it around you in person.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You're not that bold. The real life is weird because sometimes, you know, you'd be on Melrose. You take 100 photos in a day. Exactly. You just, every single person you see is just freaking out.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You know, and then you go read a comment section about you on some food page. And it's just like a thousand comments. of like, this guy's a piece of shit, nobody fuck with them, you know? And you're like, I was just outside all day. The internet can make you feel like everybody, like this is reality. No cap.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And that's like important. And you see how much it f***s up like kids. Yeah. Like you have 14 year old girl just reading like all your classmates hating on you and it's hard for you to understand that that's not 100% of what real life is, right? And that's like right now, I never seen so much cultures mixing because of the internet. Like back in the days.
Starting point is 00:19:35 you didn't know what was going on in Atlanta and Texas unless you went to those places. Now people can study somebody whole mannerism and how he move and talk and his lingo and how he do this and that and pretend like they're that all away from just a phone. See, that's why guys like you and you
Starting point is 00:19:56 and that's the dub and are good at what you do is because you guys are really from the hood but you're really good to like taking that shit that you grew up with and packaging it with music and art and clothes and all that shit and being able to basically like sell it back to people who some of those people that grew up in the exact same circumstances as you but a lot of it is kids who maybe are from like a better background
Starting point is 00:20:17 and they got $150 to spend on a hoodie or whatever and they want to fuck with you guys because they see you as like real representatives of that culture right? And then I play like I don't just I fuck with the skaters I fuck with the hipsters I fuck with the thugs I fuck with the normal people like that's not tripping like I can go in any one of those groups and still be me I don't have to pretend to be somebody else like I don't have to act like a skater to go kick you with the skaters I can hop on the skateboard and be a skater I can go with the hoopers and go
Starting point is 00:20:50 hoop with the hoopers like you know what I'm saying a lot of LA rappers would look at like skateboard and that's like the most foreign fucking thing that they just but never had any interaction with but I don't know why because it seemed like everybody in LA know how to skate so they they They probably never got good at it So they act like they never did it But you know I picked up a skateboard I was watching your
Starting point is 00:21:12 Go Skate Day vlog My son Yeah yeah that was dope So like you know How serious do you take it Would you actually be willing to go broke If you found a rail you wanted to do or some shit If I was still young
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like I said I never picked up What are you like 30? 28 See You're still young Come on I'm 30
Starting point is 00:21:32 You're talking about it Like yourself, like you're so old that I gave you a couple years. I think about it. When the Stink team, probably 10 years ago. Right. That's like a decade. Yeah. That's, I'm old, nigga.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's a new generation that young niggas that's all coming out. I'm like, how old are you? They'd be like, 20, I'm 20. I'm 21. I'd be like, damn, I'm that old. Like, I interviewed you and Draco seven years ago. Exactly. That feels, that is like very close to a decade.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I remember Drake. was calling niggas 30-old. And that she was around the corner. Uzi used to be saying that if you were over 25, you need to stop rapping. Yeah, shit. No, I don't think you need to stop rapping. Because most people start booming after, like, that's when they start figuring out, like, the actual identity.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, some of these niggas, you could be a rapper, but do you have identity as a rapper? Do people look up to you for knowing you're going to do this? Like, some people don't have that. They just got a bunch of bots, so they kind of. to go with the illusion as if they're actually popping until the label hit the switch and then they got to do it all by their self and they're like, oh, nobody's helping me.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Nobody's fucking. We no more. No, you just didn't know your label is paying for all those features you thought was your rap friends and shit. There's people who don't know that the label is paying? Most of these rappers don't know. Really? I figured they were in on it. Some people got a relationship with rappers. That's just different. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But some people, they don't. So they label got to pay for all those verses. Right. They say, oh, you want to do a song with this dude? they're like yeah hell yeah they don't know that came out of a million dollar deal you probably got 200 bands cash and then the rest the studio time and that feature right there
Starting point is 00:23:16 you ain't even know you paid him a hundred for that right you know what I'm saying are you uh have you ever been tempted to sign my catalog too long I don't have to rap really right now but I do it because if I keep rapping it just keep going up I can I can actually stamp that I'm never
Starting point is 00:23:34 gonna go broke type shit. Like, it's too many songs. Right. If I keep going, it's like the stock market. You never know which one is going to take off. But do you ever wonder, or do you ever worry about maybe like fucking up your financial future by wanting to get fly and play the part of the rapper in the short term? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I got, I sell merch. Fucking skateboard, water, fucking soda, fucking. We shit my hands isn't too much shit like right I think I'm fucking just kind of crazy because in my mind it's like all this shit could get wiped out any day No it could but at the same time any one of those songs can Take off any day and when you got 400 500 to a thousand songs released you never know it's when might read spark up or read go up like you just don't know And my songs got to have it just randomly hitting playlists
Starting point is 00:24:36 And I'm like, oh shit This motherfucker hit this playlist Look up, it did Like slime me up going so crazy Right now, that shit did Like 1.2 million And like a month, then 28 days just
Starting point is 00:24:49 And it keep going crazier And that song was like Just a random song Well not a random song On the tape But it was like It went up a year later I can't control that
Starting point is 00:25:01 And you don't even know why There was like a TikTok. Some kid on TikTok. Shout out to her. Whatever she did, she did a little TikTok. Everybody in their little high schools just followed the trend. Right. Yeah, it's crazy because, like, a lot of times if you look at the top songs chart
Starting point is 00:25:17 and then you listen to the fucking songs, you would be like, what the fuck was that? It would be so weird, so confusing, so not the most popular song in the country. But then you find out that there's like a 5 million TikToks using the song. and it's just kind of mind-blowing but y'all aren't actually on tic-tok trying to make these trends pop off I tried to get on it
Starting point is 00:25:38 when I first found out she had it going I made a little quick little TikTok and all the little shits and then people start doing it but see I did it with my actual sound so I tried to get people to do it with my sound but they were still using her sound so I'm like fuck it just keep doing her sound
Starting point is 00:25:54 I'm gonna figure out how to collect on that later but we're gonna do it like this right you know what I'm saying I tried to get him. Yeah, no, definitely. So do you feel like you're still just doing the merch side of things? Because, like, when I mentioned Desto Dub, you know, he's clearly trying to, like, really make his shit, like, more of a fashion image, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:14 See, I can do that if I do a brand. But right now, like, I like doing pop-ups and, like, shows and shit to where, like, I can interact with the fans, sell them merch, sit out there, take pictures and shit. It's more about the interactions with the fans. because I don't really have no like real push so I'd rather keep doing pop-ups every week I said I wanted to go on like a merch tour like the show for free
Starting point is 00:26:43 and just sell merch and sell like shit but just do the show for free type of shit I feel like that would be because the merch be going crazy that ain't going on. That is a good point too. Merch be going crazy. And it's crazy, easy to fill up a fucking
Starting point is 00:27:00 big venue if you do free tickets because I remember we did for some reason we did a free show with max O'Creme in texas one year like a charity show or something and yeah like we fucking just packed like a huge venue no problem they're saving money on the skip the line pass some people is a die hard fan so they're gonna buy the skip the line the VIP the the the meeting greed they're going to buy the whole shit so now they're saving all that why not buy merch right right you know what I'm saying you don't worry about making yourself too accessible to the though, or is that not even exist these days? The people love me.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I don't be feeling weird in this you when I'm outside. It's always, what's up, Rafi, let me get a picture. They think I'm not going to, they think I'm a boozy-ass rapper. Like, I'm not going to take a picture. But I'd be like, ah, come on, it's good. Unless I'm, like, took 20 pictures, and I told the last person, like, are you the last one? I'm going to hop in the car and slide off, and then somebody randomly come.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Sometimes I'll take it, and then sometimes I'll like, nah, no, next time you're like, you know, but most of the time I'm like, just take a picture real quick. Where if you at a restaurant, you're like eating a sandwich? Gang and now. Let's do a quick selfie, hey? But like, they don't come off weird.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like, they come off, like, looking at first, and they're like, damn, that's Ralphie. They tap the person next to him. Yeah. And then they always just be on some shit like, hey, you wouldn't happen to be Ralphie the plug. I was like, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They always got double check, right? Can I get a picture? Like, they don't want to come off as aggressive. You know what I'm saying? So I don't be tripping. As long as they do it respectfully. Yeah. What about when you're with the kid? Does that ever get to you?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Baby Ralphie be on some shit, he'd be like, my daddy, Ralphie, the plug. He'd be taking pictures and shit. I'd be like, bro, shit. I'd be like, he'd be on some shit. He wanted to be YouTube famous. Really? He'd be running around the house, jumping around, talking about some, bro, record me.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Subscribe to my channel. Whoopi Boo-boo. I'm like, where did you learn this? Wait, how old is you? Five. Wow, it starts that early. That's insane. He running around cartwheeling and doing jumping leap, frogging off of shit.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Right. Holy shit, because I'm remembering that when we did that last interview that you had your kid with you and he was being a fucking menace. And I think, oh, no, no, no, no. We did the Draco interview and you would have been sitting next to him, but the kid was wilding and you had to take him to the car and all that shit. So that was like, but that's crazy because now he's five, which is like way more. of an adult. Like, I'm sure it wouldn't be spazzing like that. No, he's, no, you should, if you were seeing him?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Oh, he's still going crazy. If I had brought him in here, he would have been trying to plug all the cameras, turn the lights on. Oh, shit, okay. Oh, Siri, he would have been trying to take them. Skate boy. My kid just turned three, and I'm, like, imagining her being way more laid back at five, but I guess you're right that they still be one.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah, no. I think he got ADHD, though. He's going to be high, though. Definitely. How hard is it to balance being a dad and being a rapper, though? I mean, it ain't too hard because my schedule kind of at nighttime. So, like, every now and then I pick him up from school and shit. But he's like a, he's an easy kid.
Starting point is 00:30:15 He just want to chill with me. He'd be chilling with his mind, too, but he want to chill with me. Right. So the most thing he do is call all day trying to get me to pull up. Oh, really? He wanted to pull up all day. He want to pull up to the studio. He wants to pull up and go everywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, wherever I'm at, I can be at Dobs shit. He'd be like, I'm going to pull up. I'm going to get dropped off. He'd be like, I'm fin of Uber deer. Like, he on that type of time. He's five and he'll just want an Uber somewhere. I'm telling you, his eating is not eating food in the house that you cook. His eating is ordering on Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That's what he called Eden. Right. Like, he's crazy. Do you feel like maybe he's going? got a little bit too long of a leash, like you're just kind of letting him do whatever the fuck he wants to do? I don't let him do nothing. It's the girl?
Starting point is 00:31:05 The mother? Hey man, I'll be on you. I'll be on some, like, super tough dad shit. Right. I'll be corrected. I'm like, I'm like a lion with a cub. Like, I'm going to correct them the raw way. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I'm not going to sit down. Don't move. Nah, I'm going to get your little ass over here, right? Yeah. It's take a dude for that, though. It's weird. That's the whole thing with a kid is like figuring out when do I be nurturing and caring and soft and kind and understanding and when do I just have to lay the law down and be like, no, it's bedtime. You're not like getting my attention if you fucking come out here again.
Starting point is 00:31:40 When they think they're on demon time, you got to match their energy. If not, man, like I could just imagine if I'd match baby Ralphie energy. Right. He'd be somewhere breaking TVs and doing some crazy shit. But if you let him know, like, nah, he gets to sit in the corner and try to cry. Right. But when they get super fucking upset and they're screaming at you and crying and shit, it's kind of like that's when you need to like get low, get quiet,
Starting point is 00:32:13 just like really try to talk to him and shit. See, I wait till they done crying. Like, I'm a wait till you done and then be like, all right, man. So now you know, don't do that bullshit again. Like, you know. I like it. No, you're not going to just... Crying is the first way to manipulate.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They figure that out real early. So you're not feeling a fake cry, and then I fake get up on you. Now you're not crying. Like, no, you're not going to play me. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, so are you still suing Live Nation? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 But that's a court process. It's just like a really long process. You know how that process, B. Right. It could be years before we really know what's going on with that. Okay. Makes sense. Are you still talk to anybody from Shoreline? I mean, I'll be in Phoenix area down there.
Starting point is 00:33:08 How'd you feel about seeing O'Gisi and him reunite? It was cool. Good for them. Right. I need to get in the studio and go drop the tape. You think that they're really fucking with each other, or you think this is just them realizing they can make some money together and saying, fuck it? I really don't be like, I was, if,
Starting point is 00:33:27 They get together, they get together. They don't. That's them. When I came back, I thought they was together. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really know what they got going on. But, I mean, that would be like the ultimate tour that would probably fucking have you guys
Starting point is 00:33:43 playing huge venues to get Grito, Shoreline, reunited, even if they ain't really fucking with each other, they're going to be fake cool with each other. And then Ralphie and whoever with the stinks and shit, that would be a fucking crazy-ass nationwide tour. We would love to see that. That would be so crazy. Yeah, that would go crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But, you know, everybody in their own little worlds. Yeah. That's why I figured out everybody in their own worlds. Like, no matter how much people want shit to be, like, in a certain way, everybody got their own shit going on. So people like to hold on to what they got going on. Some people don't care. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:20 I mean, for a lot of artists, I feel like there's a time period in their life where they feel like, oh, this is all about gang. It's all about hanging. with the homies and just being cool and we're going to be best friends forever and this is definitely what I'm describing is basically what happened with Shoreline and then at a certain point they sort of just snap and are like oh actually this shit is about making as much money as I can from the rapping and whatever I got you know as like that everybody kind of has that when they're young they feel like their friends are the most important thing and then they start to get older and they realize
Starting point is 00:34:51 their family or the business or whatever is the most important thing but I mean I don't know you feel like You've kind of had that transition at all, where you get kind of disillusioned with a lot of the people? Nah, hell no. I always been in my own world. Like, I never really was like, I'm cool people, but I never really been like,
Starting point is 00:35:07 I need to chill with people and I need to hang around people. Everybody knows me. I'll be dolo half the time. So I never really, I don't know, I can't explain it. I'm just, I can be me by myself.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I don't need a group of people to be me. Right. Definitely. What's going on with the chief and heavily? Because I've seen you guys have some pop-ups on Melrose and shit like that. How hard you're going with it? It's the fucking man. Dropping merch here and there, trying to get my shit out there, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's all it is. Keeping the truth for life. What's the brand all about? Smoking hella weed. Chief and sipping and dripping heavily. That's all it is. That sounds about right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Sound like the culture. That's the culture. That's the lifestyle. You customized this hoodie? Yeah. Custom, you know. He added little drips and splashes and I like it. You can be going crazy. This one, Draco actually had too. Oh, he wore it or he got the same one?
Starting point is 00:36:16 He had the same one. Wow, that's legendary. Oh, shit. You mentioned sipping. What's the state of your drug intake these days, Ravi? I'd be sipping every blue moon. Yeah, you see me. a little bit coherent more so than in the past.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm always like, I've always been to type of poor line every blue moon. But Draco, he go crazy. His life was a fucking blur. A photo of day. Like, he's going crazy. Go crazy. I always told myself, if he can do this shit like this and still be good, I'm good with my little deucees and lines and shit I'll be pouring. Like, long as I drink a lot of water.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Right. Oh, the water for sure. No, because, like, when you hear people from Texas talk about how, They got all these legends who never passed away off lien or whatever because they do a more moderate amount. It's not a fucking contest. They hydrate. They take care of themselves a little bit and they can engage in it. But like over the years, there's been so many people that we've seen who.
Starting point is 00:37:13 No, they're not dying off of juice. They're dying off of fake juice. If you really, if you really pay attention to the people that died off of juice, it's not real juice. I mean, people will be having liver failure and shit, but that's niggas that ain't drinking up. While they're going hard. They never just They always dehydrated They just smoking weed all day
Starting point is 00:37:34 And they're drinking that bullshit So there's a lot of fake lean going around now Yeah hell yeah It's called home brew How is it? It's fucked up Homebrew Bro I bet it's eye
Starting point is 00:37:44 No the thing is It don't taste nasty It tastes to some To some people They think it tastes exactly the same Yeah because I'm not a fucking lean wizard And I always wondered that I'm like why is the cartel not
Starting point is 00:37:54 Whipping up some fire fake lean See it to me it's not really about being a Lean Wizard, but if you've been drinking the juice long enough, you know what it's supposed to taste like. Can't nobody hand me nothing and say that's that if, and then if I taste it, it's not that. You can't convince me otherwise. But as the lean game evolves, it's like people used to hate on red. Now everybody seems happy to drink some red.
Starting point is 00:38:18 People used to hate on green. Now you got people really flexing green in music videos and shit like that. So it's like, as time goes by, I feel like people are just going to be like, I don't drink, This fake shit, especially if it's fire. I feel like that's because the wok. I mean, it started with the act. Justin Bieber fucked that up.
Starting point is 00:38:37 They gave us Wock. Walk was cool. They gave us, like, they're dropping it off. You know that gave it to us. Like, oh, we're going to give you something similar, but not the same shit. Like, they know what the fuck they do. Don't ever bring that green up. Right. Green. You don't fuck with that.
Starting point is 00:38:53 That green out of the lineup. Nah, but then you have the glass, red. Then you had the high-tech red. Then you had the high-tech acorn. Then you had the acorn. Like, then it was the, what was that shit? Well, quality to. Quality.
Starting point is 00:39:10 The par fucked it up because there was a bunch of fake par. The shit is fake, period. So that shit was going around fucking up, killing everybody. That's when it hit hard, the par. That's when a lot of people start just randomly dying off the juice. Really? Do you think the game will ever just be over? Like there just won't be any of this shit.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Hell, duh. Hell, duh. That's like saying the niggas gonna stop smoking weed. Hell, though. Right, they'll find a way. For sure. It'd be hard, but don't get it. Smoking.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah? For real. That's what you can see. A regular weed blunt, it might do that if it's some super pressure. You put that wax in it, it's a whole different universe. It's just like, rosen. Sorry. Yeah. She'll be going to get on your ass at this time.
Starting point is 00:39:55 He ain't playing that. Wait, wax just doesn't burn the same, or what? No, wax is like, they put a bunch of chemicals in that shit. Oh, really? The rosin made with, like, ice and water. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen them make it before, okay. It's been a while, though.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Damn, you've seen them make it? You was in a good place. I mean, just to watch some documentaries. Or even, like, the compression, like the machine where they just fucking smash it and all comes out the size. I forget what that shit was called. Okay, but so are you still fucking with the perks and shit like that, Is that era over?
Starting point is 00:40:26 That's like, the naked head be heard, pop a perk, every blue moon. You know that shit, you just do whenever it's like, juice, it tastes good, so I drink juice. So it's like, I don't have to be in no type of mood to just, all right, let me get in line, type of shit. It tastes good. It goes with my weed when I'm wrapping,
Starting point is 00:40:52 smoke my weed, drink my juice. Make the weed taste better, too. do. Oh yeah. Smoking and drinking lean. Damn. Kind of get an appetite off that shit, too. Oh, yeah. Get some food. Yeah, because I don't really be fucking
Starting point is 00:41:06 eating this shit. I know I'm lying. I'll be fucking Uber eating it. And DoorDash got me in the head. They got me in the headlock. I have to, like, bro, I'm not fucking with this app. I tried to delete it, but I can't delete
Starting point is 00:41:22 it because I always got to order some random shit and send it somewhere. When you drink and lean, smoking And you got some Uber Eats coming You just feel like this is the good life Like this is just where I need to be But I work so much And I got a kid now
Starting point is 00:41:36 So I just never let myself do that shit But as a rapper I feel like you got a lot of times It's like a good excuse Yeah I'll be in the studio a lot I'll be recording That's one thing I do do I'm gonna drop a tape on Christmas too Oh nice
Starting point is 00:41:51 Anything special plan for that What's the idea? Shit, I guess I'm here rolling it out, a rapper overnight. That's what you're going to call it? Three. Fucking, what is it? Christmas Day type of shit. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:08 But yeah, I fucking, I don't know. I'm just dropping some shit. It'd be dry, nobody's drop shit. So I'll be dropping shit. I tried to take a break. Drop like six tapes. That ain't too much. Do you feel like L.A.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Rap in general is dry? Or just rap in general? It's a couple rappers doing their shit, but it's like, rapping dry is just, period. Every week, you got a small attention spent. I always say this shit. Like, every week it's something like that sound like the exact same person, just in a new advanced way.
Starting point is 00:42:41 But nobody just coming out of nowhere, just original. That's what's going on right now. Yeah, it's weird. It's like, I used to be the kind of person when I was young who would go buy a CD and spend $12. 12 bucks, 15 bucks to cop a CD just because I needed those 10 songs, those 15 songs in my life.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And now there's infinite fucking music and the kids don't give a fuck. Everybody want to be a rapper. Yeah. Everybody. Nobody wants to be the producer or the cameraman or the fucking manager. Everybody wants to be like a rapper.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Even female. Now they're popping, so that's changed everything. Everybody got identity crisis right now. people got main person central. Yeah, main character syndrome. Yeah, they all think they're some, it's because of Instagram. So people just sitting at home,
Starting point is 00:43:36 they're popping on their phone, but when they go in the real world, like I said. So you're a rapper, so you, like, buying drip, having chains, is all an investment in your career so you can justify it.
Starting point is 00:43:48 But if you were giving advice to some dude who got like, you know, he work in the office, he got a cool job, but he want to be he want to look like a rapper he want all the girls to be feeling like he got money
Starting point is 00:43:58 and shit would you recommend to him to just save his money and just be on some normal shit or should he really be invested and looking like a rapper you always got to have something going on the side
Starting point is 00:44:07 even if you're working this LA your job alone is only going to pay a rent it's not going to pay for your car no it's not going to pay for the gas
Starting point is 00:44:17 the electric bill all this fucking Amazon Uber each shit you subscribe to it ain't going to pay for that shit. So you just got to do what you do and do it smart.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Like I tell people if you're going to do something, do merch. Because that investment is already like, that's going to get you some money. Merch is going to get you guys some money. A lot of people would be better, would be smart to kind of humble themselves
Starting point is 00:44:46 and realize that maybe they're not meant to be the person with the clothing line, but they could be the guy who's helping someone who has a clothing line. marketing inside. Building their repertoire that way, their resume, and able to, you know, kind of build a way to make money that way. But so many people just want to be the star of the fucking show.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You want to be TikTok famous. That clout. Everybody converting from Instagram to TikTok because they're like, oh, yeah, I can just go be famous on TikTok. I ain't got to do nothing. I know girls who, like, started TikTok and just had one random TikTok get, you know, 400K. And so as a result, the rest of their life,
Starting point is 00:45:23 They're making TikToks just trying to get that feeling back. Yeah. Of just having 150 people comment on their shit. And it's one of those apps to where it's not really like, it's not really fucking, it's nobody just controlling it or nothing. So the only person controlling is you. So if you go live and say some stupid shit and they ban you fucking lie, that's because you was doing some dumb shit smoking in the background and shit.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's only you that can fuck that app up. That is the crazy thing is like, you know, TikTok will break your fucking heart. I know so many people that got popping on there and the whole account got deleted just for some dumb shit that they didn't know. You could say anything on there and get deleted and lose your fucking account.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So you can walk past where I'm on TikTok with a blunt and they're going to zap me. It's over with it. Right. 30 days. I'll be talking to a girl and she'll be talking about something that she was doing, shaking her ass on there.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you'll pop it. But she'll be like, oh, this other girl was doing the same exact thing. I'm like, listen, You cannot expect this fucking app to be fair. No, that app is bots control and they've got moderators and shit. It's like a fucking Chinese concentration camp on there, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They're just making you do whatever the fuck they want. They can make you pop and they can shut your shit down too. I don't know why this came up in conversation, but I saw my man Dejan Paul saying that he would fight you for 50K in a boxing match. I'm like, damn, do everybody just think I'm just like, do they believe all the internet shit? Like, bro, I've been going to jimps. since I was like 11 years old.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I'm like a baby kid. Like I went to six middle school. Do people just think like I'm just like, I can beat Ralphie ass like that's fucked up. That's hilarious to me. Would you whoop him for 50K? Come on. That's my boy, man.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But like, come on, yeah. Have you been happy with the grades that he's given you in the past? I don't really care about the grades, but I'm a say something if it's like false. He's going to have a 50, K. Hey, you want to see that BGK? I don't know. Yeah, where's the 50K? Not saying he don't got it, but like typically, like pretty famous people will get paid less than 50K to box.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. It's not super easy to get a bag for doing a celebrity box a thing at this point. I don't know. That'd be fun. Yeah? Yeah. You wouldn't do it in the 55th Street alley? Nah, I got to be professional. We got to have the count. We got to get the count right. We got to do ticket sales at the door. We got to make sure everything is legit.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. You don't drive a record. report card about your boxing performance watch that shit back and just grade your strike anger and shit what okay strikes gonna be official do you do you respect what he's doing though
Starting point is 00:48:06 by doing the report cards and you know I think it's dope the whole scene yeah I fuck what he doing you know what I'm saying but you know when he be on that bush I think he'd be trolling though he just be trying to he know how to get people riled up that's why I fuck with it because he's You know how to, like, post some shit that you're going to look at, you know, kind of like, man, hell, God. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:28 He knows how to get people riled up. But then again, it's only his opinion. It's got to be a weird feeling giving somebody an F and then seeing them around. Yeah. And just wondering, like, how does this dude feel about the fact that I just said your whole existence that you've worked on your entire life is fucking ass? But see, yeah. But everything and every aspect that we do what we do in, we do it to the max. So it's like, who's going harder?
Starting point is 00:48:55 Right. You can say all these people are doing this, but like, it's all in the illusion. Long as a label, please. One of my YouTuber friends, Trappler Ross, he had a video titled, The L.A. Robbery Squad that only targets Asians. Fuck. And it was all y'all in the thumbnail. That's fucked down.
Starting point is 00:49:19 That's a pretty good YouTube title. What they said, what Draco said, they put her pictures on the screen, they're like, damn, they icey. What's the point? Do you resent people making YouTube videos and characterizing y'all that way? I mean, some people be having me, that's all we do is look at this shit all day, so I'll be watching this shit. I'm like, damn, people really be having their whole little thoughts to, like, allusions about this shit. They create, like, a whole world of Sting Team Drama. and just put it all in one.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It'd be funny. Yeah, there is like an effort by certain people to try to like turn the Stink team into a soap opera. Just so they can have something to make YouTube videos about. I mean, like this would be regular everyday random bull or shit. Yeah. Nah, definitely. Where are you at with Soldier Boy?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Not a fan? I don't really be on the internet with these like the antics and shit. You know what I'm saying? because dub uh dub basically said that he wouldn't fuck with him and then soldier boy went on a fucking rant saying fuck dove fuck out on 22 all this shit
Starting point is 00:50:29 whereas like why the fuck would he expect dub to fuck with him when he's made it a point to diss somebody that dub was really close with him and you can't hold that against him just because he's a clothing dude right? Yeah you know how that shit dude he's a wanna be draco so bad that's really good
Starting point is 00:50:46 clones hmm he's been copying so many rappers over the years though. It's like He's not wearing fake jewelry too. He wears fake jewelry? I've seen him wearing some fake Gucci before. Fake watches too.
Starting point is 00:51:01 For real. Fuck. Damn, that's a crime punishable by death or what? I mean, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't dare wear that. So if you found out the rapper that you currently fuck with had fake chains,
Starting point is 00:51:18 it would just be like a devastating blow. I'm faking. I've been thinking, because I treat this shit like a sport. Like, so I try to like, like, damn, man, I got to give me some new shit. Like, it's a bit of manate type of shit. Like, it's a sport. So when you out here playing with the sport and it's like you got niggas thinking that you're going crazy
Starting point is 00:51:38 and you ain't going crazy, it's like, you're pumping. Like, oh. I remember Young Scooter saying, like, I know he fake because he got fake jewelry. And I didn't understand back in the day, but now I see the way the rap. view it and I get it. Not rappers, just like, if you're real, you got to be real with yourself first. Like, you don't have nothing to do with being a rapper.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Because even if we wasn't rapping, we were still having jewelry and shit. So it's been a sport since then. So, niggas out here playing with the fake shit. Nah, fuck that. Yeah. I respect it. There was a clip of an Instagram live
Starting point is 00:52:18 that was going a little viral. It was basically Frosty the Snowman, and being mad at his homie because he said they keep buying lean from the Stink team. You don't even like to talk about. I mean, hey, sometimes you got a copse and drank off a hop, right?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I mean, you might not even know you're selling to somebody that somebody else would feel away about, right? Not that you would sell it, but hypothetically. I don't know who niggas can get juice right, man. I'll sell juice, man. But it's like a communal thing, you know, people come together to do it. It's not like a sale, really, right?
Starting point is 00:52:53 I don't know. Shit. Fuck juice. Would you be able to cop some lean from somebody if you knew that they had op homies? I don't even play like that. Okay. I already got my community. I'm a real drink sipper, so it's a community of the drink. Everybody got that own community of sipper.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I got my old-heads and shit grannies and no. Do you remember the next? a social lounge era that big ass warehouse the dub used to work for downtown the little indian dude Mike was the dude who owned it and shit you know we didn't really go out to shit like oh this is before your time yeah you know we were somewhere probably oh three two fucking chilling i just remember that they would be buying so much lean that they would buy out the lean man to make like give him extra to sell everything to him so that the other big time lean drinkers wouldn't be able to they get their hands on it.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And that was like a crazy revelation to me. Yeah, the juice is a crazy game. Juice came crazy. And this is five, six years ago. This is way expensive. You can't do that right now. That shit going to, you try to buy all the juice. You're going to be a million.
Starting point is 00:54:06 You're going to be in a, uh-huh. Your pocket going to be broke. Right. Yeah. I'm trying to buy all the juice right now. Currently. Yeah. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But then once you have all of it, you can charge more for it. supply and demand. If there's no supply, the demand goes way up. Nope, we're going to drink it all. Drink it. So, okay, what is the best trick that you could probably do right now? If you were trying to get an Instagram clip,
Starting point is 00:54:35 what's the best clip that you could probably bust out in a skate park session right now? Inward heel. Inward heel. Inward heel. Over what? Like a hip? Over like probably like a little gap or something.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Mm. A little edge. I like it. kickflip though too. Probably even trade flip if I lose some of my weight, but right now, inward hill, I can do that. I think I've seen this my setup board, because some people ride too loose. I've seen
Starting point is 00:54:59 Rich the kid do a tray flip before, I think, back in the day. No, he's kind of good. Yeah. But you know who's dummy nice is that BLP kosher? I heard he can do like a kickflip and shit. Oh, no, he's nice. He got crazy pole jam clips and shit. He got real video parts. Oh, no, he probably hard, but look, I seen Rich
Starting point is 00:55:15 the kid do like a fucking big flip off some crazy stuff. and shit do some rills I'm like oh he going kind of crazy I ain't know he was going that crazy right he kind of was looking kind of exclusive on the board you got a little bit of competition out there though be able to kosher man I'm putting all my money on him I wonder how much he actually still skates though he probably do yeah yeah for sure he fuck around the backyard for sure what uh what's going on with the whippets I don't really fuck with the whippets I don't fuck with anymore I watched the whippets like give me
Starting point is 00:55:49 niggas they down for us. Really? I've seen how that shit work in real life. Yeah, that's a weird one. Certain times when I, because now being on Melrose again, some people will come in with the fucking tank and I'm like, oh, shit. Because some people do a good job hiding it on the internet, but then you see them in real life and you realize like, oh, they really off that shit.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. But so you've seen people fuck their whole life up off it? I mean, I see things start changing over time. Real out. Like, just start. And then they start acting kind of too fucked up Right Right
Starting point is 00:56:25 It definitely turning you into a weird dude I don't trust any drug that you have to do Like every 30 seconds Even when I was doing it Like I used to hit it But like I wasn't trying to just clear Like two, three fucking whippets I was just trying to like
Starting point is 00:56:39 All right now I'm too hot here A past five Yeah But when I'm on one You know it's cool For the little moment at the studio type of shit but I ain't been off that shit so
Starting point is 00:56:50 yeah if you can control it I feel like it's like a cool thing to fuck around and do a little bit but if you're gonna allow yourself to be the kind of person who's gonna do it all fucking night like nah yeah you gotta have some self-control if you're gonna fuck around with that shit that shit's just killing brain cells when you do it which I'm not really trying
Starting point is 00:57:09 to fuck around with personally yeah fuck that I already burnt enough of those what made you want to reach out to X4 because you worked with real early on. I've been fucking with him, so when he got out, I was fucking with him, too. He's going crazy. You just tapped in? I like his shit.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah, no, he's going crazy for sure. He's got his little flow. He'd be going on, talking his little shit. I've been off that loosely. That shit smack. No, definitely. Was he someone that you thought about trying to get the signed to the Stink Team or not? I know, I know he in his own little world, so he can go crazy, like, by itself.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I like to see people go crazy. I just like to see the build-up and shit, you know. Right. Definitely. Yeah, no, his shit's been going crazy. They had a whole argument on the news the other day because somebody... Fuck the news is crazy. Like Fox 11? No, our news. Oh, my damn.
Starting point is 00:58:01 No, if they were arguing about hip-hop or about X-4 on the news, they'll be confusing. But no, they were talking about saying Draco's like the most influential rapper from L.A. Some people were saying ever and some people were saying the last 10 years, how do you feel about? about that in terms of what kind of respect he deserves. I'm gonna say he's the hardest rapper ever, but influence by, he got the last 10 years. For sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:27 For sure. He got everybody walking around, fake pole, high slurring in their music, talking about crashing forms, exotic gun talk, like designer drip talk. I guess in LA wasn't really talking like that. It was more like low riders and Chevy,
Starting point is 00:58:48 six foals and with the 40 Glock and shit like that. Dickies and Chucks with the Pro Club. They wasn't really crashing forms, putting in music videos and shit, putting it as they mix they cover, shit like that. He brought like the ignorant culture. Like, so people always say like,
Starting point is 00:59:11 that's like some LA shit. Yeah, that's some LA shit, but niggas wasn't putting in the words, he put it in. It wasn't L.A. like anything that came out of L.A. before that. And I feel like Draco, his flow has influenced people all over the country, including people who don't even realize that they're influenced by him because they're influenced by somebody else who was influenced by him.
Starting point is 00:59:33 So they don't even necessarily know that they're kind of doing like a version of his shit. I have respect for somebody like X4 who realizes that his flow was definitely fucking influenced by Draco and that a lot of that and his whole generation, really, you know. Yeah, hell yeah, that nigga, too. He was the artist to me. He influenced a lot of people. Hmm. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:59:54 He put that shit on. He gonna look the iciest. Like, he gonna pull it looking crazy. It's crazy though because that is like, Greg goes L.A. as fuck, but he had to, he kind of like rejected so much of what it was to be a rapper from L.A. before that, you know? Like a lot of shit. Sonically, flow-wise. He was like, yeah, we ain't trying to shoot with no palm trees and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:18 in the background, like, we're going to show you how the hood look, the backgrounds, and pulling Draco's out in music videos, shooting in random ass spots and shit. Like, he was on some other shit. Niggas wasn't just having Dracos and music videos and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:35 This nigga's wild. That's a fact. I always, because it always plays that one, what's the one freestyle with the foot? It has like a billion views, dubs in the video with the Gene Jack and all. Yeah, the Impatia Freestyle.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Man, he was on the balcony. Because that's the apartment that you guys all got raided in too, right? I don't know, this nigga wild. It's going crazy. That's crazy. All right. When you want to remember, Draco, what's the number one music video or number one song that you put on? They're really like, it's just the perfect song for that.
Starting point is 01:01:10 See, it's no perfect song, but it's a lot of songs that I like, Mr. Everything is one of them. like the geeked up freestyle that's another one it's this song called act stupid if you want to but that's kind of hard to find you gotta do some real digging up right now now it's a song that he dropped like a long time ago but like people say like he just start rapping like that or whatever the fuck they'd be saying
Starting point is 01:01:38 but this song is like 2011 10-inch type shit it's an old-ass song like how y'all I say he just start rapping like this. This nigger been rapping like this. He just dumped it down. But you act stupid if you want, it's a good one. And then it's too many.
Starting point is 01:01:59 He got too many. A fool flamming. That's my go-toe. That's the one of them ones. Which is crazy because, like, we were just rocking out to Cold Devil for so long. And I kind of got used to the feeling that that was going to be the best body of work he ever did.
Starting point is 01:02:16 to shoot a baby. Oh, man. I don't go back to shoot a baby. I don't know. With the fucking mass. This thing is the defense. But if you want to explain Draco to somebody, you might have to show them to shoot a baby to kind of be like, listen.
Starting point is 01:02:32 He's going to crazy. This dude is not a normal dude. For real. Especially having kids. Shoot a baby is tough to sing along to. Yeah, I don't know. Damn. All right.
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Starting point is 01:03:19 Oh, really? Nice. You're going to let me model it? I need a hoodie, man. I'm trying to get your whole package. I'm trying to get drippy, man. I went to Melrose the other day and Doug made me change my whole outfit. He said I looked like shit. He said, man, you need to be a good show, man. He gave me some shoes and everything. It was actually a really cool way to get some free drip. I like your fit right now.
Starting point is 01:03:37 You kind of dripped up right now. For sure. Little did they know. Got a sock missing. Stepped in some fucking squirt. Kind of upset about. about that. I got my sock
Starting point is 01:03:48 in my back pocket up there. I got it right here. Oh, you need to throw that away Adam. No, no. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Where is it? Don't grab it. I'm getting tricked by my double pockets. Oh, no, I forgot. I put it on top of a fan in the other room.
Starting point is 01:04:01 All right. All right. I appreciate y'all. Nah. It's good, man. Long live the ruler. Stink team forever. Yes,
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