No Jumper - Raq baby on Chicago Upbringing, The New Atlanta Drill & More

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Raq baby talks about his come up, being a child actor, making drill songs but not being a drill artist, and more. ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT... OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm with my man Remo. And we're having to sit down with the one and only, rack, baby. Fri, one on, man. How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. I ain't my mind.
Starting point is 00:00:13 I like L.A. Yeah? I'd be chilling ahead. You don't come out here too often, I'm assuming? Nah, not like that, bro. I be, no, I'm going to keep on it. Since I, yeah. Since I've been started like in my career here, yeah, I've been out of.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah, because you were just saying, though, you used to live out of it. little bit, right? I used to live out here when I was young when I was like seven, eight. Oh, where, what part? Like, howley, like, let me, L.A.? Yeah. You don't know where? It was like, we just drove that other day, too. Like, I forgot. As a matter of fact, I got a picture in my phone or the building. I used to stay in there. I just, I just, I had a hell, though. Damn, so you went from Chicago, L.A., and Atlanta. Hey, Mom.
Starting point is 00:01:06 She's right out there, so she's not like... That is, your mom? Yeah. Hey, I can tell. She looked just like you, so I figured I ain't know. Okay, say that, Ma. Right, right, right. That's dope though.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You were out of here by 10, though, so do you have a lot of memories of L.A. growing up? Oh, I ain't going to lie. I didn't took pictures. I didn't met a lot of people. Like, I didn't met Nipsi also and everything. When you were super young, wow. Yeah, when I was young. Where did you mean Nipsy at?
Starting point is 00:01:34 I got I was actually in one of the music video with him and Snoot dog it was called Tadorin. Oh, right. I was in that they were just using me as a little boy. How did that? Who set that up?
Starting point is 00:01:49 How did that? We got to go back to the science. Oh. Yeah. That's hard. Yeah, I go in the comments. Y'all let us know what time frame using the video.
Starting point is 00:01:58 But that makes me feel like if you were in like a music video that young that your parents were, well, either they were like trying to get you in the show business, or they were associated with what was going on in the streets? Yeah, they got down. My mama got down, I was trying to get down.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I was on some acting shit, type of shit. Oh, she was trying to get into the whole acting thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. How was that? Is that like a big part of your childhood? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Did you enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:02:29 I didn't, at first, at first I was liking it, but then I was like, no, it's a lot. I got of age, like when it was time for us to move here, I just didn't want to do it no more. I was like, maybe I'd do something else. I was really just young, so I was just trying to figure out some shit. Any, like, notable gigs or anything you did, act on us? I did a few commercials.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I don't be remembering what they was, but I did a few commercials. I got them, did some shit with, what's the Black Js or shit? Slink Johnson Yeah he remember this It was going on The black Jesus I did that That's crazy
Starting point is 00:03:12 I met him before I even got into any of this shit But it's interesting though Because like there's a rapper from out here Who did the whole child acting thing And everything like that And now everybody tries to use that against him To be like look you're not gangster You were in a commercial when you were nine
Starting point is 00:03:26 But the thing is is like If I got my kid into Anyone could get their kid into like Being in movies or modeling or whatever It's not their choice even really if they're like, you know, young enough. That shit don't define what you is. Yeah. That was just another, you feel like you were trying to make a way for yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:44 That was one of the options you tried to take. You see him? Yeah, totally. One of the routes you tried to take to get yourself out of what you were, and that's what I tried to do. Yeah. They can't tell me I in front of that, you see. So, okay, you leave L.A. at 10?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah, I left LA at like 10, not even all the way 10. Like, it was probably like a year and a half, almost two years. I got down. Left when I was like 9, turn to 10. Right. 9 turn in 10. Hey, that shit, raw. Yeah, the 50.
Starting point is 00:04:19 A lot of people like this. Is it 50 or 30? 50. 50, okay, good. I don't want to. So you was born in Chicago, though? Born in Rage to Chicago, Illinois. Oh, so you just came out to L.A. for a period of time.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. Got it. Went back home. I went back home for like a couple of months. Then I came to Atlanta when I turned 10. Ah, okay. I feel like that. So what was your Chicago life like?
Starting point is 00:04:48 It was just, I understand this era growing up for me. I ain't gonna lie because it was a lot of errors and shit growing up like the bombing error, you had that. You had to, you feel me like, all the type of shit. It used to be fun back then. I don't know what the thing going on now. It was still going on back then, though. You said bop from it?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Bopping. Bopping. Bopping. It's like a dance or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bopping and shit. So you was a part of that? Like, you was making bopping music, or you were asking?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I was not making bopping music, but I was bopping this shit. Like, you feel him? Like, it'd be a block party in the hood. I just hit that shit in front of everybody. They used to be calling my name telling me, go ahead. That shit would be on my eyes. They lay. Oh, around.
Starting point is 00:05:32 There's a few moves on the air. But you're pretty young, right? So how old are you right now? I'm 19. 19. So this was fully like the Chicago drill era while you were out there and stuff, right? Yeah. Like when all that shit was going on.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Right. So was that part of your memory of it? Were you seeing a lot of crazy shit going on and shit like that? I mean, everybody see crazy shit. It's a crazy city. You're going to see crazy shit. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Right. But you were so young, were you kind of like away from it a little bit? I want to say away from it, but I wasn't doing it myself. Right. What part of Chicago? Southside? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 West Englewood. West Englewood. Where? K. Park area. shit like that. So where's the 69th? Because on your chain, it says 69th in Rockwell. That's in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah. All right, for sure, for sure. So what's it like growing up on Rockwell or 69th? Yeah, that's my way. Like, that's my daddy, like, with my daddy from. My mama from somewhere else. Like, that's what my daddy from. So when I was growing up, I was always with my daddy a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:41 So I'd just be over that. It was fun, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. All that, like, them days when I was bopping and shit, I got videos to be bopping over, feel, me, over there. Like, I just had a fun. I ain't a fun experience in Chicago. I ain't, that's why I ain't want to leave.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I ain't never wanted to leave, but my mom was like, shit, we just got to do something better. We got to make something shake, you, feel? But what kind of game did your dad put you on to in terms of like how to, how to survive out in Chicago? Yeah, he just was telling me like, shit, stand on what you believe in. Don't trust everybody. Feel me, shit like that. Typical shit, everybody, you feel me, tell their children. Like, feel me?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Typical shit, everybody to teach their children. So then how did you end up going to Atlanta? I had said like, yeah, when I left LA, I went to Chicago to stay with my cousin, Keeter for a couple months. Then I came to Atlanta when I turned 10. My mama had left. When we left L.A., my mama went to Atlanta to figure some shit out. You feel me, see if she could get some shit shaking out there before she just bring me all the way out there.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So she had got some shit going on out there, got a little job, got a little apartment and shit. So when she got back on her feet, she made, she filmed me, she helped me move her. I mean, she sent me to move her. And then when I was 10, yeah, I've been in Atlanta. Since I was here, I was in, that I go back and forth from, like, Atlanta to Chicago. Like, when I was 11 and 12, I was in Chicago with my ITF. Like, I was just switching back and forth. And I come back on 12, if you didn't remember until now, or when I was 11th and 12, I was in, from 11 I was out there on Twitter and I come back to Atlanta like it's just back and forth I was just
Starting point is 00:08:36 moving and what part of Atlanta west like which zone is that zone one like that when I first came I was going in the middle school and like I was still like Cobb County like it's like 15 minutes away from the west side so it ain't far like I went to a school called Lille I was going now I went to a school car and then like six flags drive that's like 10 minutes away from the west
Starting point is 00:09:12 so it's really stilled away all right for sure for sure so what you so where do you feel like you got your sound from because you know you got the name rack baby but then when you listen to the music you kind of got like an Atlanta
Starting point is 00:09:25 filled mixed with Chicago so what do you feel like inspired you more which cities inspired you more inspired you more. Ain't a lot. Like, when I was growing up, I was watching a lot of Chicago shit. I had to get. You know, I had to adapt to that Atlanta shit.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So when I turned, when I was around the age of about like 12, that's when I, the Atlanta shit, I started tapping there with that. And I just started missing it together. So, yeah, you could basically say both on them. I ain't gonna like me. I don't know who really. Yeah. But where the name come from?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Like, was that a name you got in Atlanta? Because you were kind of like the dude who's, from Chicago. Exactly. Right. Exactly. So was there anybody in particular who gave you that name or any kind of story behind it? To be honest, I don't know. Who gave me that name first? Who was calling me that first? Damn. Oh yeah, my homie little twin, he was calling me that thing. Yeah. I'm going to keep it on. My homie little twin on bill. Word.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Which, uh, Chicago, because you said you were looking at Chicago artists. Which artists were you looking at at the time that kind of influenced you? Like back then? Yeah, back then. Yeah, back then. So when I was, when I was 12, 13, it was 20, 16, 15 around that time. Like, yeah. You want me to go from, like, back then, like, I was listening to Dirk and them, like,
Starting point is 00:11:01 when they was making all of them old songs and shit, like, right here, shit like that. Back then, like bang bros and shit like that. I signed the streets early on. Like 2000 and you feel me like 12. Yeah. All that shit. Like all that shit. I was, let's start him.
Starting point is 00:11:16 All right. So was it like a culture shock when you moved from Chicago to Atlanta? Like what was the main differences that you noticed, like living was? What's what you mean? Like how different was Chicago from Atlanta to you? It was just, I don't know. It was just different for me because I had family in Chicago, like real family. I got family in Atlanta now because he's feeling me off of people that I didn't met.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. But like it was just better in Chicago because it was just I had family out there and I knew more people and things. A lot of people like make the move from Chicago to Atlanta because it's their chance to like kind of live in a city that maybe is a little more peaceful and not as gang related or whatever for them. Shit like that too. Like Vaughn off 1700. He made that move pretty quick. seemed like he realized that maybe Chicago was going to be a little tricky place for him to be at as he was blowing up
Starting point is 00:12:11 but he made that move like right before he started blowing up I think Yeah I think a lot of people try to Like it's easier to leave Chicago once because it seems like a lot of People get caught up in Chicago and bad shit happened So it's like safer just You know what I'm saying to relocate
Starting point is 00:12:27 Especially while you're pushing your rap career right Yeah all right All right. Y'all saying right shit Ain't no wrong with that shit You feel me? A lot of niggas know, like, they didn't deal some shit, you feel me? And they didn't got their self into some shit
Starting point is 00:12:43 that they can't get their self out of them. So the best thing they need to do is get away from that shit. Yeah, to get on down. So, like, what age you jumped off the porch? Shit, like, you know what I? Like, 12, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 13. 13, a real age, but 12, like when I started like doing what shit on my own like just start popping outside on my own and shit yeah what's your definition of hopping off the porch at least like the type of shit that made you feel like you were finally doing some man shit getting money all that killing and all that goofy shit yeah get money you were never really drawn to that whole gang warfare shit I ain't never been no game man I just you feel me got people that I know
Starting point is 00:13:42 that love me basically a lot of people in Chicago it feels like they can't really see past that shit as it's like they grow up around that shit and it's just like there's no other
Starting point is 00:13:54 that niggas that don't want to see past that shit that's all it is like you gotta want to see past that shit I ain't worry about these goofy ass niggas all day these niggas that me try to come
Starting point is 00:14:09 for a digger. We try to put a nigga name and songs and shit. I don't be worried about the goofy of a nigga. I don't get money. What were you doing to get money at the time? You wasn't a water boy, was it? You know, Atlanta be having other waterboys and shit. I ain't going to lie. Like, I was never the real water boy, like how my homie knew was. But they were some
Starting point is 00:14:29 water boys for real, like, little more in them. Yeah. Like, a little money, and little Kobe and Shahn them. They were real waterboys. Like, I ain't gonna lie. So what type of house you had? Me? Yeah. Just all type of different shit.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I ain't gonna like you. I used to just sell shit. I don't eat no drugs. Like, all right, you feel? Get some new shit. Find some shit that's valuable. Find a way to get some shit that's valuable. Sell that shit people want it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Shit like that. All right. So you just like flipping shit, just random shit. Yeah, I f*** around me. I was growing up. Once I got to a certain age, I had a game. I always had a game. Like, my mama, if I couldn't get anything else, my mama was always going to buy me a game.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I have a game, like, sell them all. I'm of age. No, I ain't playing no game. 13, 14. Yeah. You feel it? Like, I'd sell my game. Sell shoes and shit.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's brand new shoes. I just bought. You feel? Sell them bitch for more. trick somebody else You're just flipping shit Yeah Do some shit like that
Starting point is 00:15:41 Wait wait So alright So when did you start rapping You're like you know what The acting ain't working out Or you got tired of acting And you're like I'm gonna hop in the booth
Starting point is 00:15:50 You know it's crazy Let me tell you I was something When I told y'all I was like When I told y'all I didn't want to do the Act of shit no more
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah I was rapping And it was like My mom put me in the studio One at the time When I was out of here When I was living out here And I was like, I want to do that probably.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So that probably gave me a reason when I stopped doing that and shit, too. So I really been rapping since I was young. But I was too young to really grow up back then. So I didn't really. And I started playing basketball, all the type of shit. You know how you're just a kid? You just start experiencing all the type of different other shit. Yeah, try to figure it laying out, trying to figure itself up.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. So the first video you dropped was Hendal. Yeah. Break down that name. Why in the Hennessy? Yeah, because I said
Starting point is 00:16:42 some of the song I was like Nicky claim he on smoke that he must be off the hand dog shit like that I said that sure
Starting point is 00:16:50 you know how you said like you drunk as hell like Yeah So when you dropped that song What was like the initial feedback Did it take off Or it wasn't that much feedback
Starting point is 00:17:01 It didn't even take off instantly, yeah Right And that was one of my favorite songs like I always when I dropped that song like y'all is my favorite song like my bro's name they were telling me like now I slide down
Starting point is 00:17:14 your favorite song let me slide down the best song or they'll say some other shit and I'd be like doing this the one but it went up like to me my shit got like at one case and like a month in the hood that's fast for us shit we know
Starting point is 00:17:35 rapper's like this is our first video so we like we get 1k views we had yeah you're excited about it we like yeah but yeah sure thousands a good start a lot of people out there can't get past 15 20 yeah thousand is like okay if if i get a hundred times more than this I got 100 thousand that's a big deal I'm doing thousands like kind of big deal yeah yeah yeah so even at that time though though when you dropped hindal like did you have like a marketing strategy you was just dropping music and it just naturally got a thousand? You know I ain't got a little fucking market. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I don't know if I broke a city. I ain't got nobody to market me. You just put it out. I'm just putting it in. And they're just naturally seeing what happened. Exactly. So then what's the next song that drop where you actually start getting a little feedback
Starting point is 00:18:22 and momentum behind it? The next song I had dropped. Or the first song that just really got you. I was dropping a little shit after they didn't, but that shit weren't really doing nothing either like. I was dropping shit like that. And then I did a song with my homie, two-four.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He had put me out there. I ain't going to lie. Like, he put me out there to the point where, like, people started tapping there and not listening to me now. But then, you know, we had made a few songs. He had started giving my little boys up. And then I had, did a song with,
Starting point is 00:19:02 and top. like a few months lived. How'd you meet him? Anti the Menace. Yeah. I meet him? Yeah. We really met, like,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I been new who he was. You feel him? Like, I'd been new who he was when I was young. He's like the face of the new generation of Atlanta. Yeah, he's already taken over or shit. But you just met him on some regular shit? Nah, I used to go. I stayed in the same neighborhood as them.
Starting point is 00:19:46 This is in Zone 1? No, I ain't a lot. I don't keep 100. This was out in, this was out in Cobb County when I was like 11. All right, for sure. So y'all locked in before, yeah, moved or whatever. We went, we were locked in. They were, like, I see them in the apartment.
Starting point is 00:20:09 We used to, you feel, chopped up. And then we go about our day because that's back when I was a regular kid, you feel? Yeah. And then I just said I guess we got down. Met like a couple years later. A few years ago by, I ain't seen for a long time. When I was going to school, I was going to middle school, because he had disappeared.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I didn't see him for a long time. Then I had started going to school on the wayside. Dug in like 2019, 2020. Then from there, I started going to school like two years later. He was rapping and shit. And then I guess they had wanted to like do a song with him. Like because I was rapping on Instagram and shit too
Starting point is 00:21:02 and they were saying it. Yeah. So I guess they wanted to do a song with me and then we did it. You feel it me, it went up. I wanted to do a song with him shit. You feel me, I was like, you feel him, maybe this is an opportunity for music. Like give me, you feel me, get me where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Like, you already work with me. me since we were using me young and at this time automatic out is automatic out or not yet? Oh hell no so this early on. Way before all that. All right. This was like 20, 21. And that's when you started really just taking it out and that's when Hindaw came out right? 20-21.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Like six months later at the end of there like when I seen him again. Yeah. And he was rapping already like he already had a buzz he was like I do music, bro. You feel, me, like, I f*** with you. Just come to the studio, we can rock. Yeah. I'm like, I'm around. Like, shit, he tried to try to take me out of here.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like, shit, I'm gonna keep it on, and that's what he did. So you feel like that song kind of, the shit y'all did kind of like, help put you on the map more than Atlanta? Yeah, it boosted it. So then how long after that you record automatic? That's like really the one of the main songs that. That's like a year or two later. I was just doing music with him. That shit was like two years.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But you didn't have like a real personal relationship? It was just like working on some music? What would you say you were friends? We went like, I mean, yeah. Like as I started rapping. I kind of start hanging out more and shit. Yeah, like I just go to the studio with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 All the time. We'd be turned up. Like, we'd be cool as hell or shit. In the studio, you're rapping with them shit. And he then took me out of here. I ain't no choice but to be cool with them shit. Nah, y'all feel that. So what song, all right?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Because Automatic was a song, I think one of the songs I seen early on that kind of like turns you up. But what would you say what song took you to where you needed to be? I got everybody paying attention. Took me around me.
Starting point is 00:23:20 He needed to be okay. So automatic was the jump off year. All right, so that was the song. It might have been because nobody, if it weren't for that song, then you got to think about it. If it weren't for that song, nobody would have knew who I was, gang.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Like, you feel him? Yeah. Like, they never knew who I was. So, yeah. I mean, they was knowing who I was. Let me stop. Because I was making... I don't know, too.
Starting point is 00:23:45 This shit really just weird. I was making a lot of hot shit. That song's going crazy in Atlanta where Huncho did. And that's when Huncho decided to hop on it? I had made a part two version. On the remix, yeah. Yeah. I had made a part two version.
Starting point is 00:24:01 He wanted to drop on that one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. How that line? Who lined out? He just reached out to you? Yeah, he reached out to me, but, like, anyone don't know. You know how he was.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He's just, like, yeah, you hard. Like, I thought we try to see what you got going on. Just send me something. Basically, like, he just showing he believes in the nigga, too. Yeah. A lot of rap nays don't be trying to. So they believe in a nigger's game. They just be really.
Starting point is 00:24:31 want to watch you to see what's in your business and trying to give you feeling try to get in your business and shit but like he was on some genuine shit like yeah I f*** you ain't just send me send me something I'm gonna hop on it that shit help me yeah definitely and shit turn me up a little bit more like I never cap on a nigga name like yeah they be me some niggies that they didn't put me out out might put this shit in the face for me so I can get noticed. A lot of niggas don't admit that.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't want to say a nigga made me, but you feel me? Yeah, yeah. A lot of people won't with you in the music industry unless they've signed you or they have some kind of vested financial interest in you succeeding. I see that all the time actually where even the other day when we were talking to
Starting point is 00:25:28 the designer and he mentioned how Future tried to sign him and then how when he didn't sign the future, features kind of started like this and him low-key and like how he totally would ended up doing music with Future and shit if he had signed to him. And it's like, that is how the industry is. A lot of people don't really want to, like, put a young high rapper in position because they see that as somebody who could potentially take away from their fan base.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Designers said that at Fus. Designers said that about Future. If it's true, not 100% sure, but he said it. That's he agreed. Future would assign designer, and then he would have put him on the shelf. Realistically, right? Like, I don't know. Maybe he would do a song or two, but I feel like he would probably, like,
Starting point is 00:26:11 sign them to make them not a threat. Right. I don't know. I don't know. Anybody tried to sign you from Atlanta, though? Like, anybody was reaching out? Atlanta? I think, I think, I think, I think QC tried to, like,
Starting point is 00:26:30 they got on the phone with my mom, I think. I mean, not. Where's the QC? What's the QC? I don't know, game. I don't know. It'd be a lot of people trying to sign. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But they went straight to your mom, or you, you lined them up your mom to have the conversation. My mama was my manager now at that time when I got out. Uh-huh. When I got out of jail, she started being my manager and shit. What you got got locked up for? Some little boy shit. This was in the A? You got locked up in the A? Yeah. How long you did? That's what I have to be west. That was your first time getting locked up? What was that? What was the process like of being locked up in Atlanta and shit, like break that day down of you getting arrested? I can't even break the day down again. All this shit happens so bad.
Starting point is 00:27:38 When I was in custody, all the life knew it was just like, I knew I was going to jail. I'm like, damn. He's what he was doing. You know, can't hold you for too long. God got me. God got a nigga. But you've always, like, had that kind of relationship with your mom where it was just obvious that she'd be capable of managing you and having those conversations
Starting point is 00:28:00 on your behalf? Mm-hmm. My mama, my mama gets shit done. And she's still managing you, or is that not really the case anymore? Yeah. She managed it.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Okay. Does that ever cause problems? You said what? Does that ever cause problems with her managing you? It's like ever a conflict of interest. She might want to go a certain route as a mom versus what you want to do as an artist?
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't want to say goddamn crazy shit but she'd be getting on my ass and I ain't focused Yeah I could see that Well kind of like If not focused To her means like
Starting point is 00:28:42 You're not trying to go to the studio Or yeah What does not focus mean that Like I do everything I'm supposed to do like You feel me I do everything I'm supposed to do In the rap shit
Starting point is 00:28:54 Like you see me That ain't a problem It's like with me Like When I ain't focused Like on my other shit like nothing to do with no rap shit like me as a man yeah i'm supposed to be doing like shit i pose to be on shit like that that's all still just being a mother yeah
Starting point is 00:29:13 shit no i feel it uh amari blaze and blazing dawes said uh they feel like you're underrated you feel like you're underrated no they call or they want to call it i feel like shit i'm getting bigger as i go i ain't a lie I'm getting bigger every day. Every day. You're getting bigger. It's something new every day. Whether if it's good or bad, that shit
Starting point is 00:29:46 making me bigger every time. What do you think is the biggest shit that makes you bigger, though? Is it doing interviews and media? Is it doing features with other artists? Is it like just putting out more music, more projects? I think it's just being me, myself,
Starting point is 00:29:59 talking with the shit I'd be doing, I don't know, by my music, the way I make music, shit like that. that. That's what it is. I ain't gonna... Yeah, what is your recording process like? Like, how, like, when you were making music, like you decided you're about to drop the album, what are you lock in at? And, like, what's the recording process like for you?
Starting point is 00:30:22 You writing things down, you're going off the top. Goos to get out of the time, I don't be running no more. Like, I used to, like, say if I had heard a beat in the house, because I used to be playing YouTube beats back when I first started, I hear a beat and then I say this for shit but I'd write it down so I won't forget it tight shit but I never just write no hole so like I write down the hook and didn't do the verses I'm not used to that what I did that was off the lot that's home off the lot other than that we're your like favorite place to record at like
Starting point is 00:31:12 like which city because you know you go to Chicago you'd be out here in LA I'm where you feel like you get the most creative vibes from? I don't know why the hell on your own is so much, but I don't say you got there on. LA, I've been making some hot shit out here. I ain't gonna make some crazy. What do you think of this? I think it's just like, yeah, the vibe, like when I'm at. I like it out here.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Wherever I'm at Miami, on God, and in Miami, I'd be going crazy. Oh, God, I do. How often do you go to Miami? A lot. I love it out there. know. Do you check in when you come to LA? You mean check in it?
Starting point is 00:32:02 I don't know. Go find some like 40-year-old gangsters to be like, hey, I'm here. Yeah. That's what they're always saying that the young dudes need to do. They got to come to L.A. and check in. Yeah. I'm checking. It seems like a funny question to ask you.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Hey, where is Dump Street at? Because I see you in your Instagram bio is say Dump Street. It's everywhere That's Don't street right now Where Then you got a song Like a little dump
Starting point is 00:32:32 So like what Break down the whole dump You know a little dump Who's a little dump? The one who puked on here He's like Young boys, homie No
Starting point is 00:32:45 No, no You're talking about My young boy, La brother No Yeah, I don't know That's That's, yeah
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's young boy that brother Okay I ain't got nothing Separate dump What your dump Mean? Everything to me Like
Starting point is 00:33:00 Dump is a way of life time. Like, we dumping and everything we do, whether we dumping music, you feel me? Dumping out the ops? No, not that? Nah, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I feel like that's a pretty common dump, though, when people talk about dumping. I can tell you, like, what the meaning it is, though, like, while I'm from in Atlanta, it's dirty as hell. Yeah. It's dirty as hell over there. Like, nigs dumb in trash and shit. I'm keeping on it, like, it's just dirty.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like, You mean dirty? Like, just street dirty? Like, just jays, all type of shit. Yeah. Dirty, Tony. That's the real meaning. That don't mean no crazy shit like that.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I was curious because I'm like, you got Rockwell. Then I see Dump Street. I figured it was like a block in Atlanta. What you just said? Yeah, that's two different things. All right, for sure. Who would you put, all right, because you name people from Chicago that I influence you.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Who do you feel like influenced you? That's from Atlanta. And when you got to Atlanta, what sound you was listening to? that you kind of picked up on, or you was listening to Gravitating Tours. Who's rapping like? You gotta think about who rap like when I was 13, 14.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I ain't gonna lie, like, yeah, like, shit. Throw up, you know, I'm like, on God, like, bro. Shit, shit, throw up, lucha, all type of niggas, man. Yeah, right, that's, man. We always got a sharp respect for thug, no matter what. Yeah. Even though he's been out of our.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I ain't gonna lie. I love. All right. I ain't got a lot of time. A lot of niggas be hard in that time. There's a lot of nigger that, you feel me that in front? Nick, like, all the type of Nick, Cardi, feel me? Like, you got a lot of niggins.
Starting point is 00:35:00 What you like about Cardi that influenced you? I know, he's just different. You know, he sounds different. Now he's sound way different from what he used to be. What God he do. Yeah, it's a different cardio area right now. Ain't trash, but it's just different. You fought with the old Cardi Moore or the new Cardi?
Starting point is 00:35:14 What sound you follow? I can understand the old Cardi more. The new Cardi, I don't really feel like I don't know where you come from. But shit. I don't really be listening. Like, you feel like, I can't really say. Like, I just be hearing a few songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That shit be hard, though. It still be hard, even though I don't understand what it's saying. But that shit hard. He removed all those songs off YouTube too, so I don't know. Maybe he... But I think they went back up. Did it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You got one in the gas station that they were saying was gone? I'm pretty sure that that went back up. Yeah. People were very troubled about that at first. But a lot of people have that same, they agree with you. 2024, 51 million views seven months ago. That one, that one like came down and then went back up. All right, so he did put it back up.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly why. But then the Netspen song have like the same sample or something? And then got to him that one's not back up. Rich on the plot. Rich Homi. Rich Homi had a lot of influence on you. Yeah, because at that time, what song he had out that was like, lit.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Type of way. What got a lit song? Like, I know his, like, that's my shit. I could see the Richelma Quine influence. Or that song, I finally made my mind, know that I can't go back, bro. And they're saying that my time on my back against the road. Yeah, that's my wife.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. You met Richelander? Hell no. It would be, I want to meet him, though. Hell, yeah. If you could have, like, any, who your dream clubs, you know what I'm saying? If you're putting out a new tape, on a new project, who would you want to be on your project? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:36:52 How do you want to work with? There's a lot of niggas I, fuck, right? That I've been listening to my, like, future. I listen. Everybody's doing. I mean, I do, but I don't. I do what I don't. Like, I used to.
Starting point is 00:37:07 But now I just be listening to myself because I rap now. Yeah. How you feel? But, like, a couple years ago, I used to be listening. You need. Then you dropped the project recently too, right? What's the name of it? Um, outskid.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Why that name? Look at all the meaning. It means. It's misunderstood. Yeah. You feel I misunderstood? Yeah, a lot of times. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'm a gibonauty, so it's gonna be hard to understand me anyway. Like, so I'm expecting it. Folks than I understand. What's the main thing you feel like people don't get about you that you be having to explain or they don't understand? I don't know, man. There's a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Like, I can't even speak on that. I don't even know. Like, there's a lot of shit. People just get, and it's a few with me. Should be done. Or you had a song in there called, I think it's on that project. It's called Like I Miss Lohat.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Who's a little hot? And my baby wife. And my little, that's my little brother. And what happened to all him? Shit. People look at the store, like, if you want to know that, all that, they keep doing it. Oh, so documented on YouTube and shit?
Starting point is 00:38:36 News, news tell you everything. Like, news will tell you when all the other niggas die and tell you about him, too. I don't know. But how was y'all relationship like? Like, he from the same area as you? Yeah, and it's still the same area, not from the same, like, favorite part, but the same area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Same zone. Yeah. And that's one of your, like, first people, you lost, like, gun violence or anything? He don't know. Not the first. Not the first, but just, like, one of your close home, closer? Yeah, he hit home for him because that was, like, a little brother. That was, like, a little brother's to me.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like, and his, you feel me, his cousins and his big brothers dead to him. you that like if he might go to the studio with him like I ain't never was no he was never when he was around me it was never no crazy shit like a picture they trying to paint on him I don't know what they be doing but when he was around me I can't control what he was doing around other people like I don't know but around me he was just a regular kid chilling I looked there and it was like a little brother you know I feel it so you ain't you ain't gonna be dropping any diss songs, because you say you don't do no dissing. Because a lot of people, when they hear the name,
Starting point is 00:40:10 Rack, baby, they automatically assume you might be a drill artist. And then when you hear the music, you're like, nah, bro, melodic heat, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people do confuse you with making drill songs. Because you front Chicago. I do be making drill songs, shit. You got to get them forced what they want to hear. You feel me, but it ain't necessarily no drill rapper. I'm just an artist.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, I can do everything. Like you said, I'm a melodic. Shee, you got that vibe for me. But there's always this conversation about like Atlanta drill Like baby Kia and all these fools coming out And it's like a way louder, more aggressive Style
Starting point is 00:40:46 You feel like you're part of that wave Or are you on your own thing? Yeah, I'm on my own thing Don't boy doing the own thing I got my own shit going on Who do you feel like is your peers in the rap game right now Like who all coming up Around you that you look towards
Starting point is 00:41:05 like all in the same wave I feel like I don't say like shit people like like yeah DG you know what going on like DG got down
Starting point is 00:41:26 Reds you say right now like they look shit you got a whole bunch of nays going on I ain't gonna like you got
Starting point is 00:41:37 analyzed this one young guy I've been listening to yeah I'm from a guy He's from Atlanta, right? He's from Atlanta, right? Oh, don't forget you got L5 on tripping. You got L5, you got out, man, come on.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You got who? L5, you got a lot of niggas. It's a lot of young niggas, man. They're hard now, turn. A lot of young nigg got this shit. Some of them nigger be rapping, sounding the same, but the ones that don't, they should move. You know later they do?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know, I know, like, who he is. I don't know him. Oh, I got a relationship. I never met him. Yeah. What about any other artists in Atlanta that are coming up? You cool with anybody else?
Starting point is 00:42:36 What's how to anti? Shit. I lot. He got baby moving on the boy locked up, though, but he had them. Ain't around. You got a lot of me, time. A lot of nigh got in that shit, I ain't gonna lie. I wouldn't say I ain't got no relationship with everybody,
Starting point is 00:43:02 but we, like, we mutual, we're cool. You feel, like, ain't no. Yeah. No beef and nothing no crazy shit But do you think that the people are ready for The Atlanta drill shit to Take over? Like it feels like Maybe right now we're in this like
Starting point is 00:43:16 Time period where a lot of The classic big Atlanta Artists might be kind of Getting a little bit older Slash, you know, a lot of people getting locked up A lot of people just like aren't really making music like they used to So I feel like to a lot of people they see Like this new generation that's kind of like
Starting point is 00:43:32 Trying to take the crown But then also it's not like like none of these artists like Baby Kia, LaserDem, all these fools like, it's not like anyone's like really exploded to become like gigantic so it's still kind of like bubbling up. You're saying like nobody made it mainstream like that?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Because like at one point it seemed like every year from Atlanta we was getting like a new mainstream artist that's you know what I'm saying? Billboard. It seemed like right now that Atlanta wave kind of slow down and we do got a lot of artists that's coming from Atlanta but yeah they are in mainstream. They're on more of a street underground level
Starting point is 00:44:07 making weird music that people aren't necessarily accustomed to yet I mean like laser dims dope but it's like I'm not in his current state I don't think he's going to end up on the radio well I mean let's just be real it's not necessarily the most palatable shit for the mainstream audience I can understand totally why the underground kids love it and internet kids but he might have to change a few things before it's like top 10 hit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Maybe more than a few things. I mean, I'm trying to do anything right now. I ain't a lot of folks loving this shit. So shit out. Just a bit, keep it going. Why even? No, I'm still telling, I still listen to every song. I'm still just, like, listening to every song,
Starting point is 00:44:56 just seeing how he's going to switch it up, little by little. I ain't going to lie, that late match, that motherfucker. All right. You fucking with it? Yeah, yeah, that's my shit. Yeah, Bala. feel like Atlanta kind of lost his hot street
Starting point is 00:45:10 because I won't point it like we were just saying it was like back to back little baby Migos Rich on McQuahn like every year it was like somebody like right now it's still building but like I don't know it seemed like Atlanta's leaving room for another city to grab it
Starting point is 00:45:25 you don't agree? Oh me guy ever hurry up and figure something out of yeah now I feel it I'm out of though who would you put on the Mount Rushmore of Chicago and the Mount Rushmore, Will hit the Chicago on first.
Starting point is 00:45:44 How many faces is on that? Four. Four. Okay, so. Do the Chicago, Mount Rushore at first. All right, I got it. I'll say, dang, that's a lot on,
Starting point is 00:45:56 game, that ain't gonna lie. I can't. I can't do that. I can't do that. Man, okay, I say, Vano K.D. Dower, Casey, money.
Starting point is 00:46:14 That's three? Yeah, that's three? That's three. K-C. Money. Who was the second one? KC. Money. Okay. Who was the second one you said? Da-Wi. Who's DaWi? Look them up. We're gonna figure it out. How do you spell that? D-I-E. Why? I give me one more. Oh, with the LA at the end? Fonzo. All right. So you f-fazo? Yeah, Fonzo going crazy. All right. So give me the Atlanta-Mont-Rushmore then. That's a Chicago one. I'm on Atlanta Mount Rushmore right now. Alana.
Starting point is 00:46:52 My Rushmore. Uh, yeah. Does Di-E-Y, M. He's from M-Block? Yeah, yeah, yeah. M-Block, D-I-E-Y, shot in chess with 22-3 in Chicago,
Starting point is 00:47:09 two months ago. Holy shit. We're lucky to still have him. Yeah. He was beefing with 800 T-J before he got killed. Unnecessary information, but that's what YouTube's telling me. Alright, give me that line of my Rushmore
Starting point is 00:47:28 and work right quick. Shit, gang. I say, yeah. L5, you got DG, we got let me see. Like, they gotta be underground. They ain't got, just who you feel like
Starting point is 00:47:55 like just got the face of this right now? Who are you rocking with? Oh, be little listening like that. You know what I'm going to be rocking out. All right. Yon nigga that's hard. I do, I feel it. Matthew, like that all got, um, entitlement.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Little Ray? Yeah. Ray, you know. Check him out. A little Ray. We also have a Little Ray with a, we have a R-A-Y and an R-A-E. R-A-E. And they look like they might be, like, of the same genre.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Oh, R-A, I already know a little Ray, actually I'll watch a few of these. Okay. Can we expect a new tape, or album this year? you spit a deluxe y'all expect in a deluxe man we got to do a yon we got to do a yon counter that's the hundred times he yawned in his interview
Starting point is 00:49:23 you know sleepy from the seven dwarfs he said sleep it's the it's the joint man it was already before the two of them but hey sometimes you're just tired Yeah, what do you got coming up? Anything we need to look out for? Yeah, I got...
Starting point is 00:49:44 I said I get out of tape in a couple of minutes. All right, so a new tape or this is going to be the deluxe? No, deluxe. I got a deluxe on the way. All right, for sure. Same. I ain't going to disclose the date, but it's coming soon as then everybody thank it yet, because everybody be...
Starting point is 00:50:02 I don't know why they be trying to put it like I don't be dropping. guy like I drop a song you just dropped it yesterday they'd be drop her song like what the fuck you do talk about always with that you put out an album they'll be asking when's your next album coming like the next day you'd be seeing it oh I'll say it all the time yeah can you just drop like another song and that shit like half a million already yeah yeah so yeah you drop him for sure yeah I'm busy's going crazy okay show well uh thanks for coming in and sharing the story with us. And yeah, we'll definitely be
Starting point is 00:50:38 looking out for the next project and whatnot. I see big things for a rag baby in the future. Yeah, for sure. Music going crazy. I'll play everybody, you know what I'm saying? They slowly catching on and shit. So next time, next year, it's going to be a bigger
Starting point is 00:50:55 situation, you know what I'm saying? A lot more shit going on. Got to have this conversation to get next year. That way. I'm going to be all right. I got to get me back on here, man. For sure. Got it. Rag baby. Rag baby.
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