No Jumper - Robin Colombo & Her Son Francesco on McMillions, Who Snitched, Adjusting to Fame & More

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

Robin and Francesco sit down with Adam to give details on the behind the scenes of the infamous documentary. From Executive Producer Mark Wahlberg, the HBO series McMillion$ takes a look into the con that allowed one man to rig the results of McDonald’s popular Monopoly game for an entire decade. Robin https://www.instagram.com/robincolombo22/ Francesco https://www.instagram.com/francesco_g_colombo/ ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we are here with Robin and her son from the McMillians documentary. This is crazy. I can't believe we're actually here. When I was watching that documentary, I did not think that there was a chance that I would actually be having you guys on the podcast. I can't believe I'm here, man. Really?

I feel like he jumped out of my phone. I watch your stories and stuff every day. It's so cool. That's like the best thing I could possibly hear. Okay, so I guess I would kind of like to start before the documentary even happened? Did you think, did you expect that this was going to happen that at some point you were going to be able to tell your story and that the whole world would be paying attention? I knew we were going to be indicted at some point. Right. But as far as telling the whole world,

no, I didn't. Right. I just thought they would have solved me in handcuffs and heard it from John Ashcroft. Right. But this was all the way back in 2001 when you got indicted. Right. By John Ashcroft. That's what I thought was going to be it. Right. And it must have just been like a crazy thing to have something that happened 20 years ago, but then all of a sudden now the world knows your face. Yeah, absolutely. Right. I didn't even think we were on the radar again. Right. So it was pretty crazy. Yeah. And then all of it's like, you know, because the story, like I've read a few articles about the story over the years, but then to have it fully just put on display in such a, in such a high quality way for the world to see.

I mean, it's got to be a weird thing. Like, were you dealing with people realizing that you were involved with this whole storyline for years prior to this? Like, obviously, this is it being blown open on a huge mainstream level, but I imagine that over the years, this has had to have affected your lives,

or were you getting to the point where nobody was talking about it because it had been so long? Well, we got to that point, but at the beginning, Of course, I lost family members. Could you just scoot away from the fence a little bit? Sorry about that.

The fence is kind of allowed me. Okay. Of course, at the beginning, I lost family members. You know, money's good. When money's not bad, everybody gets in trouble. Right. You lose family members. Other than that, no, I did not expect this to come out again.

Right. What was the process of actually doing the documentary like? Was it just like a couple of long sit-down interviews? No, actually. I was approached by Jeffrey Meish. And he hit me up on Messenger and asked me if I was the Robin Colombo, married to Janaro Colombo. Right.

And, of course, I said yes. And then I get a call from David Clawins, a producer. And we talked for a while. And he says, would you like to do a movie? So I said, yeah. So you didn't have any sort of qualms about being a part of it. From the beginning, you were like, no, let's do it. Because there's a few people involved in it,

particularly the other Jerry, who wanted nothing to do with it and weren't willing to have their face on camera at all, which after seeing how this has all gone down, you're like, oh, of course you would make that decision that makes a lot of sense, because now everybody involved in this is famous, and he seems like somebody who doesn't want to be famous. When you look at it now, or you're kind of like, damn, maybe I should have stayed in the shadows there.

No. He's, I'm sure he's not cool that it all came out, but I knew he would stay in the shadows. Right. Yeah, he was one of, he was that type of guy. Right. I mean, he was like a cloak and dagger kind of guy, you know. Okay, meet me over here and then not there and now pick me up over here and kind of thing. But when you're a gangster, there's always a party that kind of wants everybody to know how clever you are and what the big scheme you thought up was, right?

No. No? For some percentage of gangsters, there's a point where they want the world to know exactly what they've done to make all this money. No? Because you don't want to lose it. Right. But now that it's been gone for all these years and stuff, it sucks. Right.

But do you think of yourself as sort of abiding by that kind of gangster mentality or has that just sort of dissipated into the back of your mind over the years? Because there is this code of silence that would kind of prohibit you from doing it. a documentary if you were still actively about that life, right? I thought that. But when the feds, when the feds hit me with it, when I did that code of silence, I'll get back to you. That's not how it works. Right. No, not at all.

They already know way more than you know. And so then when they were going to change my custody alert. level and these guards go to take me away. I go, wait, wait, what, what, wait. Hey, I need to go talk to these FBI. We got to skip you away from the fence. Sorry, I don't know why we have this fence here. It's starting to seem like a crazy idea.

No, it's good. Just, yeah. I mean, it's kind of iconic. It is kind of iconic now, right? The fence, yeah. We haven't had the fence for a while. I didn't think of it like that. You know, we didn't have the fence at camp.

Right. Start off with one. Right. But so, okay, so you decide to do it. So your prior assumptions that you would never want to talk about criminal acts on camera, those just sort of went away pretty quickly once the Fed started talking to you? Oh, yeah, exactly. Once the Fed started talking to me, I told them to give me their card and I'd get back to them.

And so they went to leave. And all of a sudden, because I'm at work release, the lieutenant comes to. say, come here, Colombo, we're shackling you, and you're going to prison under investigation. I said, wait, wait, what? And he said, come here. I said, oh, no. I ran to the door, and I kicked open the door. And I said, hey, you, come back here, come here.

So they came back, and I said, okay, exactly, what do you know? Right. Just to kill some time, because I knew they were going to take me. So I killed about 10 hours with them. So you didn't have anybody that you were worried about, you know, killing you because you talked to them? No, I was in the safest place you could be. I was in prison. Right.

But it was already, you could tell, I didn't spill the beans. Right. I was indicted for it. You know, if I had been the one that spilled the beans, then I would have been in the background. Right. I wouldn't even been talking. Once they already know the whole scheme. Yeah, they had a poster of Uncle Jerry in the middle,

and here I am connected to Uncle Jerry, you know, and then they had all these other little bubbles. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Did you have any qualms about being involved with this whole thing, or you think anything bad could come from it?

I mean, I was really just a little kid at the time. I know. That's what's crazy. You're like an infant in the actual show. Literally. You know, I had no idea. I was kind of sheltered, you know, a lot of my life, and I didn't understand why for a while.

But then I did understand because now all this coming out. So I see why they kind of kept me away from everybody. It's weird, though. It just seems like such a fun scam. It's not like, you know, like everybody can see why it was so captivating. You know, I was a kid doing my paper route and, you know, stealing those. There was a lot of fraud going on in general, too, because me and my friends, we would do the paper route.

We would steal the McDonald's things. And we would end up with a couple hundreds of those each. So I was like, there's fraud going on in all. different levels of this scam. We were the paper boys and we were cheating the system too, I guess. Oh, yeah, there's more fraud than you know. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. There's more that they don't even know about on the show.

Yeah, you know, I used smoke weed. The only reason I stopped, mind you? I currently smoke, yes. The only reason I stopped smoking was because it was making me gain too much weight. Really? Yeah. And, you know, obviously there's not a lot of height to me. So smoking weed and getting too fat

Kind of looks like take a garbage lid and just crunch me down here So I had to choose my battles here Do I get fat? Smoke weed, which one? I have gone through long periods of the time of my life Where I ate like incredibly strict and worked out really hard And weed was the only thing that kept me going Like I'm not eating Oreos but I am smoking a lot of weed

That's my dilemma I'm on right now with soda Do I drink soda or do I eat? Right. Because it's like you need that one thing to soda or line. That one thing that you want to keep. Right. Caffeine does it for me too. It's like it keeps me super wired all day.

I know it's not good for me, but at least it keeps me not thinking about food as much. Right. Exactly. For me, it's dabs. Dabs. Ah, my kind of guy. I'm a dad. Dude, my Xbox name is Dab and Dad.

I mean, if that says anything, I love dabs and I love being to Dad. That's the best thing. How old are you now? I just turned 25. Okay. And how many kids you have? Just one. She'll be three in a couple months.

Wow. My first one is being released in about six weeks. Oh, six weeks. Wow. It's coming right up. I knew it was coming, man. That's awesome. Congratulations.

Any minute. I appreciate it. Yeah. Any tips? It's awesome to congratulate you in person. Thank you. What do I need to know? Like, what's the biggest?

For me, it just came day by day. Yeah. Really. And we read some of the books like the what to expect when expecting and the basic stuff. But it just came day by day and it just comes naturally. Right. I was super scared until that same day. And then like she was born and it just clicks.

Right. It's awesome. Because it's, you know, it's built into your fucking body. It literally is. This is what you're supposed to be doing with your life. Literally is. All these video games, all they're smoking dabs. It's fun, but it's like you're not biologically designed to do that.

Right. Yeah, like I don't even drink. I don't do anything, bro. I just smoke dabs. That's it. But I love being a dad. Right. Yeah.

It's awesome. You have any qualms about your kids smoking so much weed? You know these dabs. They're crazy. Yeah, well, I've never tried that. You never did that. Okay. That might be for the best, honestly.

But as far as weed, because it is coming more acceptable, and it's helping so many people, like with cancer, glaucoma, and he was going through depression. Yeah, it saved my life. It's really helped him mentally. And so I'm glad that it's helping him like that because I was going to a psychiatrist for help. Right.

what a joke Tristan smoked weed How dare you You know I mean And they're always giving you A different cocktail You never know what you're going to get

Right You know so That worked for him And I'm glad Let me ask you this The first time that you appeared In the series Because it's I think episode

Two Two is when you first pop up What was the next day On the internet Like for you after that came out. You know, I'm not a, I really don't. Not a scroller?

No, not really. Actually, people were just calling me and saying, no, did you see this? No, not that. Well, you need to watch this. You sure I need to see that? But there's like a point where it's got to go past like, oh. Yeah, I've seen some stuff, of course.

But there's a moment where it's like, oh, a bunch of my friends know about it. And then there's a moment where you realize, oh, no, everybody has seen this. Everybody, like short of Tiger King, pretty much everybody has seen this. Yeah. Yeah, it did get to that point. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I would be at Lowe's, Walmart at the bank, whatever, and people come, ah, there's, I heard if I make millions.

I'm like, really? God, I should have did my hair, you know, because they want a picture. And unless it was a person that, oh, make millions, you know. Oh, you've had people be sort of snooty to you. Just one. Really? I was like, oh, no, you wouldn't have done it? Or you weren't asked?

Oh, really? That's interesting. You think it's the red hair? I feel like if your hair was black or something, that you might be able to... Got along better with it. Yeah, the red hair is like your signature thing now. I was like you're a superhero.

I love it. Red everything. Red everything. Yeah, that's my favorite color. You ever heard of the bloods? I've heard of them, but I'm not with them. Not interested in joining? No.

Well, they like red. That's what I'm saying. No. No. You ever heard of 6'9? No. Oh, my God. Okay.

No. Dude, he's on benches everywhere. What? Yeah. This is my first time out here. So I've been in Missouri this past year. Right. Crazy.

Imagine you just live in a neighborhood and like all of a sudden the bus bench has this guy all over it. And you're just like, this is my neighborhood. I live here my whole life there. You got this guy staring back at me every morning. I saw a video of him. I think it was this morning like handing out CDs. Right. Like it's a stack of them.

Not even in CD cases. Yeah. Just on the corner. You got to troll through the pain in this day and age. People are even like, I don't want it. If it hurts, it don't matter. you still got to just troll. You got to just try to fight through the pain, you know?

That's what it is these days. It's pretty crazy, but I guess. Okay, so, but how does your life change since the show came out, though? Like, do you feel awkward about going out in public in general? No, not at all. It's not that bad. Because you know what? This is how I feel.

There's maybe a minute people that hasn't actually broken the law. Some way or another, somebody's done something. They just haven't been caught, or they're lying. You know, I don't care what it is. It could be something minor, but they've broken the law somehow. Right.

Yeah, it didn't even cross my mind that you would feel bad about having been involved in that crime, because, I mean, at the end of the day. I mean, who's... Who would not do it? Come on. Exactly. A million dollars? Somebody's got to win it. Especially when somebody is coming to you and they're saying, they're not exactly

like phrasing it in such a way that you realize how it's going to go down in the future. If somebody came to me and said they have this ticket, it's just not going to occur to me that this is going to come back to get me in the ass or that the FBI is going to end up caring about it. It's like now when you watch the documentary, it's like, oh, yeah, that shit was extremely illegal and I can completely see why everybody got in trouble for it.

But I mean, after you've gotten so much money. Right. And in the moment, though, it's just got to feel like, all right, this is, I'm just hitting a lick. How could they ever prove this? And you did. Right. Still. Still.

I feel like the payments are so small. that they have to make back. They didn't, though. What do you mean? You know, like at the end when they say, oh, this person had to make. You couldn't make. I mean, for example,

they expected me to pay almost two million back. Right. But it's like $50 a month for 50 years. You know, Mark and Devereux, the prosecutor, he and I got on first name basis. Right. You know, I like, Mark, really? You know, I can't pay you two million.

You know I didn't get to. I know, Mrs. Clemente, that's not the way it works. I'm like, well, it's a good thing. goes, I can't pay you $2 million. But are you on the $50 a month type payment plan? Until next year. Next year? Yeah.

How much have you paid? None. No. Explain. You got to be paying them something, right? If you don't pay them... Well, okay. This is how that works out.

You're making it seem like the FBI is a fucking joke and that they just hand you like a joke payment for them. Like, yeah, you can pay this if you want, if not, whatever. You're still off at this time. I'm sorry. You're not going to jail. It's fine. Listen, so much happened between me and the FBI.

And even the U.S. marshals, we were like on first name basis because we became actually friends, believe it or not. I actually chased a federal agent and my prosecutor down a hall screaming at him over my son. What did he try to do that? Well, I wasn't allowed to contact him. They were protecting him because they got this big case, so I wasn't allowed to contact him because the Colombo's had him, you know. And anyhow, the reason I didn't have to keep paying the $50 was I would have been on probation three months after getting out of federal prison, right?

Because it was a paper crime. Three years is what you get automatically when you come out. Well, I was in the halfway house, and I think the Super Bowl was in Jacksonville that year, in 2005. And I was coming home from work, and this young girl decided they were having a party prior to me getting there, the guys, everybody, because the guys and the girls were all kind of together, and one common area. And she offered me a drink of something, and I'm like, I just said goodbye to my daughter's father. He was dying. And so I really wasn't in my right head. But anyway, long story short, I took a drink.

And she gets up and does dancing and all kinds of crap. So they take us women and breathalizes. Well, that popped up. So that's an automatic go back to jail. Just from drinking. Yeah. And not even much. But anyhow, so I'm back in the room.

And then she comes back. I said, you know, that was messed up. What you did? She goes, well, you know, nobody had told you had to drink. I said, you're right there. You're right. I did that on my own. Well, you know, because I'm not a really tall woman, and she was.

She took it upon herself to do this to me, and I just slung her across the room and started fighting her. You assaulted your probation officer? No, no. One of the girls that was living there. Oh, okay, okay. And she started the fight. And I didn't want to fight her.

And I even pushed her. I said, you know what? You're not worth it. So I left her, and I went to the ladies' room, me and this other girl, and she came around the corner and jumped on my back. So I turned around, and I just slung her on the floor again, and I just started beating her. And I had rings on, and, of course, you know, that made a mess. Man, I would not want to get ahead with those things. And so they called the director of the halfway house, and he gets there, and he calls me a bully.

He said there was four women jumped on her and all this, and he found out with me. and he says, get off my property in 30 minutes. You have to go home. So I went home, and I had to keep going to court before I knew it was inevitable that I was going back to prison. And then, of course, when the marshals see me, they're like, Columbo, what do you do? We didn't think we would see you. I'm like, well, hey, well, we heard you won. I'm like, yeah, did I really win?

Did I? Well, that's how my $50 got cut off. Really? Yeah, because I had to go back, and that null avoided my probation. So. $2 million restitution gone? Well, I wouldn't say that. Now, if I ever come into that kind of money, they would get it.

So if you did hit the lottery tomorrow, they'd be coming for it. They probably wouldn't believe it anyway. They would probably have it stopped and check everybody out. Have you been able to profit off of this newfound notoriety in any significant way? Well, I wrote a book. I've got a book out there. It's already out. It is.

Oh, shit. Okay. I wrote it years ago, but I revamped it. up to date. That makes sense. Yeah. And no, I really haven't made a whole lot of money off of it. I don't really want to get into that, the reasons why, but who knows what will happen.

Is it that you don't want to bring in money because you're just going to have to give it all away? Nope. That's not it at all. No, not at all. Just messed up people. Yeah. Really? Yeah, there's a lot of people who can't trust out there, so.

Oh, so you've tried to work with people that didn't really work out with? Right. Interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, so I'll see about that. How do you feel about the way you were presented in the documentary, in the show? You know what? It's, it's, actually, James and Ryan did a phenomenal job, I think.

They were the directors. They're awesome. They're really cool guys. They really are awesome guys to work with. They really make you feel comfortable. There was just one episode that was not on the air that I literally wanted to jump on somebody. and I guess that's why I wasn't on the air. Really?

And I couldn't get the mic off or anything. I was waiting for it. At home watching it live, like waiting for it to happen and it never happened. And then you realized it was cut? It was cut. What actually happened that they misrepresented you? Well, one of the girls sat on the front porch telling me, oh, I went to the IRS and told them I owed $50,000 because I felt that, you know,

Jerry left me with nothing. And I'm like, he made all kinds of money with Jerry. What's she talking about? Right. These light, there's so many fakers, a lot of them, but not going to go into that either. So after, you know, I sat there and thought about it, this, going to watch my language here, just told me that she told the IRS about this thing. So she goes, what was I supposed to do?

I said, you get a payment plan, like I did on a $40,000 IRS. You make payments. Right. You don't bring down the whole house of cards, you know. When you've profited from it for so many years, you're just pissed because he's gone. And there is no more. Interesting. Yeah, because at the end, it's sort of like revealed that the mother, the grandmother was actually the one who snitched.

I knew that. So you knew all along. You assumed? I knew. Or did the documentary basically fill in? Was there anything that you learned from the documentary about this whole way this went down that was new to you? That Frank Colombo, the youngest son, tried to act like he was such a good brother, you know, and good person and all this. When he is, he was never even at our house, maybe two times.

Really? The whole time we were together. He's not associated with the family at all. At all. Really? No. Yeah. He just wanted a piece of fame. Wow. And he's just so full of crap. Even a part that really bothers me is when he says that he was the only one in the room when my dad passed away, which I wasn't there myself. I was in the hospital myself. But she was there. My grandmother and my grandfather were there holding his hands, you know, until the last, like, beep. You know, and they tell me that and they cry about it. And like, I don't see why they would lie about that. Right. You know, and he was there, definitely. But he wasn't the only one. one there and just like little things like that you know and then to admit to people on the show that he broke into my house while I'm in the hospital looking for money that's my money what the hell you doing right they're trying to call me a thief over the all the I didn't couldn't watch all of him

because I can't stand to look at him oh really it's like yeah yeah so but I was told he was calling me a thief and all that and then I'm like but didn't you say he broke into my house which I already knew he broke into my house looking for money and said he found tickets, which he did not at all. Jerry had wrapped that. I tried to talk to him recently, like right before the show aired, and I was like, hey, just so you know, I know the show's coming

out, anything wrong with me, like with you, it's not to do with the family, like, I still love you guys, blah, blah, blah, and then he just blocked me. Blocked you. Blocked. Yeah, dude. And like, he did help me out for a little bit, and I did live with him for a while when I was a teenager. And then I think, really, it was like smoking weed

and, like, stupid shit like that. But pissed him off? Yeah, and like, he wanted me to be a certain way and I don't know I think it really came down to more of the family stuff we just couldn't get along but I still had no problem I was like hey just so you know there's no beef with me and he just blocked me so whatever like I really don't care you know I just whatever you guys are making me really thankful that my family is so boring in comparison and probably has been involved in almost no organized crime and the grass isn't always greener I guess I think I wish it was boring right oh man that's crazy do you think

that that scene was real when they showed that his kid was actually working at McDonald's? He does. I can I worked at that same McDonald's a few years back. That's pretty hilarious. I'm not going to lie. I felt like it seemed kind of fake. Like, why is this kid walking in while they're filming? No, that's their real son. That's their real son. That's their youngest son, Vinny. Vintonio.

I've never met him. Vintonio sounds like a made-up name. Right. I know. That's what we say. That's because my husband always wanted a Vinny or an Antonio. After Francesco, of course. But like, okay, let's torture this kid and give him the craziest combination. He's like him himself isn't really like Frank.

I mean, now that he's older, maybe I haven't seen him in years, but he's a really smart kid. Right. He's a cool kid. But they're just, they're different. Yeah. Does growing up around all this stuff? Because when you watch like crime movies, it's always like the kids want to get into what the parents were into or whatever is that had not had that effect on you where you're not really interested in the illegal

side of life. I mean, Godfather and stuff like that, definitely number one movies. It just comes with it. I got Sicilian tattooed across my arm. I just had to. What's the other one said? Oh, man, not really, you know. Oh, some old school graffiti type shit.

Yeah, I don't know. I just got it because I thought it'd be cool at the time. What's to say flossing? Finesin. Oh, finessing. Dollar signs too. I know. Shut out.

Young scooter. Nice. Hell yeah. But hey, at the time, whatever. It's cool. You know, I want more tattoos, though. I actually told Defector over there that if I got a no jumper tattoo,

if that'd be okay with you. Since I came on the show, I would definitely get one. Let's go. I think it needs to be on the face, though. No. No, that isn't. The back, the entire back. It's going to be a World War III with Mr. Colombo.

You know, they don't have tattoos. They're not into that right. Yeah. You know, they got their things there. You can kill people. You can do this, but you can't smoke. You can't have a tattoo. They're big on respect, though.

You know, it's one thing. They did raise me a little different, but they raise me big on respect. But don't have a tattoo. And the reason I bring up smoke because I used smoke cigarettes. Yeah. And it was funny. because we was at the house, and his dad was yelling at him, my husband and Italian,

and then I was oblivious to it, and Jerry goes, let's go, Rob, and I'm like, what the hell? He goes, my father smelled smoke on you, so he doesn't want you around here right now. I'm like, what? What are you talking about? I said, oh, oh, oh, I can smoke cigarettes, but, I mean, you can't kill people. I can't smoke. Right.

And then we just laughed, or he laughed. Right. Yeah, it's a double standard, but I mean, that's the way that world is, though. It's so different. Yeah, I was grown up, brought up military. My dad was intelligence in the military. And that's what hurt the world. Seeing him on TV got to me the most because I would have never went to my father to have a ticket ever in life to break the law. Right. He was an upstanding man's man intelligence, like I said, and he was. military and when he called me when I lived in South Carolina and said I want the big one I

didn't say a word I just said okay I didn't want to put them through that because I knew it must have took in a lot to even ask me right so I just said okay so I went to Jerry and I said give my dad my ticket he was what the hell you're talking about right that's your ticket I'm like, I don't care. I'm going to give it to my daddy. You must need it, you know, whatever. He's an idiot, you know, we don't do all that. Anyway, I gave it to my dad, but then when I saw him on the documentary.

That's when it actually heard, like, shit, I kind of dragged you into this in a way that I didn't have to. Well, I don't feel like I dragged him, but I just wish I would, but how long you tell your dad no to a million dollars? Right. You just, it just hurt. Million dollars sounds pretty tempting. It's very tempting. When you think about where the average person's out in life, it's like that million dollars is like,

it'll make them do things that they would absolutely never even think about doing it. Yeah, especially when it's just a little peel ticket away, you know. Yeah. It's not like you got to go. I used to see him. Jerry, like here, come look at it. I think it's pretty ridiculous how my dad's on the commercials, like the actual McDonald's commercials.

Oh, dad almost costs his life. That's crazy. Yeah. Wait, he almost lost his life due to that? What do you mean? Well, because he shouldn't have been on that commercial. meeting the guy with the tickets

and then here he is on a commercial of it Right Yeah it's got to be But he had somebody over It all panned out I bet in his mindset though he's like I'm a winner That's how he said

He won't that He was a hand He was a hand Yeah Like if you found a million dollars In a box on the ground I'm sorry I would take it Yeah I'm taking it

and I'm not going to act like it's a big deal. I'm not going to act like I did anything wrong. Who does this belong to? Yeah. Hell no. You hear about that sometimes? Look, he's in the wallet with loaded full of money in Walmart. I was very little for the record.

Me, him and my mother-in-law, right? And she's like going through this thing now. Oh, we've got to teach him the right thing. I'm like, now, really? Right. He's got a wallet full of money, Mom. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm feeling like this. And he ran before we could do it.

anything about it and gave it to this guy that you knew it wasn't his money. What? Yes. You gave it the wrong guy? Were you like five or something? No, he was seven or eight. Okay. I was like, hey, here, this is your wallet, right?

And we knew it wasn't his money. It wasn't even his money. Right. At least I should have got it. Or me and my, you tripped, you know, it doesn't matter. Could have got like a happy meal out of it or something. I don't know. No, you don't know more than a happy meal.

Yeah. Well, maybe you would have got a heavy meal. That's what I'm saying. You get a happy meal. We'll take the rest of it. Yeah. No, yeah. I mean, I've definitely been in that position where you, like, find 50 bucks on the ground,

and it's, like, the best day of your life. You might have made a lot more than that, doing something else that day. Yeah, but, you know. Something about finding it on the ground or stealing it that just feels good, you know? It's a rush. You steal a candy bar from 7-Eleven, I guarantee you it's going to make more good chemicals flood into your brain than if you go buy the candy bar and eat it. I know.

Unfortunately. It's weird how that works. I know that. You know it for a fact. I told you we had the great, well, I didn't tell you. What, the M&M? Yeah, see, I used to smoke weed. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, when he was little. Right. But I couldn't smoke it after I put him to bed because I'm not one of those weed smokers that can go on about their day. Really? When I smoke weed, I need to be, okay, ready, give me my comedy movie, whatever I'm going. Comedy movie. I have to have comedy.

Really? Down with what I'm going to laugh with. I don't need any distractions. And let's go. He's in bed. And so anyway, I would always try to fall asleep before the munchies came on. But then I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would hit his treat drawer. It was Reese's a minute cup, Reese's cups.

You saw how you hit the kid's treat drawer. Yes. The Halloween stash. No, it was his own treat. I don't expect it. I'll do that to my kid. I'm going to buy you more tomorrow, don't worry. Oh, it was horrible.

When he asked for a treat. Yeah, you got to say the whole thing, too. I'd wake up. I will. Mommy treats. Yeah, yeah. Well, Jerry, he goes, you know, you sound like a freaking rat down there. I mean, he'll eat all the papers, you know.

And then I fell asleep in his armpit and chocolate. He's like, what the, Robin? What the hell? There's chocolate everywhere. I'm like, oh. You got chocolate in his armpit? That's how aggressively you were eating the candy? Yes.

That sounds almost impossible. That's incredible. I know. I know. wait, there was more. Then there was bubble gum. Then he had to shave his armpits. What kind of gangster?

I'm going to have hair under my armpits. Right. Anywho. So he takes me downstairs. He goes, okay, look, opens the freezer. He says, do you see this in the freezer? And it was a gray M&M wrapped in foil. He says, do not freaking eat this.

Right. And I'm like, why? He goes, it's $50,000 freaking dollars. Right, because that was a promotion that used to do, right? Yeah. The gray M&M. Yeah, we had it. How'd he get the gray M&M as well?

The same way he got the McDonald's tickets. Had he lived, this would still be going on, trust me. Because as we know, they wanted him, so the story got told. But had he lived, the story would still be going on,

and I would soon be wearing a clearinghouse. Wow. So you'd still be hitting lakes off of the shit. I'm sorry, but... I respect it, man. That's how it is. I'm, I just still don't understand how you got the...

It's not like I'm going up and saying, hey, give me that ticket right now. Like, what, did they keep the prizes from McDonald's at the same place that they keep the M&M prizes? No, no, no, no. And how does someone not, like, make a fake gray Eminem? I feel like I could make a fake gray. Right, I thought the same thing. You know, it doesn't seem bad. Maybe I have some kind of glow underneath a light or something.

But did he know that? I'm sure he knew everything. You know. You're having to have been other things. Because your dad was your dad. He could always think of anything. thing, you know, kind of, hmm, how to make money. And had he could have cloned that, he would have.

Trust me, we would have had great. And it's everywhere. But, like, you're supposed to want to be your dad, right? I know. But is there a big party who doesn't really care about being a criminal mastermind? Well, of course, it's in there. It's a little bit of the back in there. And I've had my little...

I have a background, you know, but I don't really talk about it anymore. Because I just, I, from like, dude from like 18 to 21, I just turned my brain off. Didn't really care. I didn't have anything to really go for. didn't care. And I was in and out of jail and stuff like that. But I'm not even like a felon. I just like a bunch of stupid stuff. But then like I had a kid and it was great. Really? That changed everything? Literally like night and day. Just like it comes to you overnight, right? Literally changed me overnight. Right. But even like the pregnancy, I would say changed me. Like going to the

doctor visits and stuff like that. Like it's cool. You know, hearing the heartbeat, picking out the names, decorating the nursery. It's awesome. Just like having something that's a bit more important that you have. And instantly, everything else didn't matter, like at all. That makes sense. It's cool. She even does. My husband and I, when I was pregnant with him, I used to wear this one's pajamas, and I look like a little bear, you know, because you're pregnant. So he says, God, you look like you're doing a little dancing bear thing, you know.

I'm like, okay. His daughter does his thing. She goes, because I'm doing the dancing bear, you know. the hell to get that, you know, but she is so freaking adore. She's beautiful, funny. It's like she's got his personality. She's all over my Instagram.

Yeah, without the... The criminality. Yeah. Because she can't stand anything to go. Like me, I used to tell Jerry, I say, please, don't ever tell me you heard anybody, please. Right. You know? So you knew you just didn't really want to know? No, because I really expected, like he was doing,

they have an underground key club, And Hilton Head, that was all politicians and actors, which I won't name names. Right. Because these were, you know, well, they're good actors. And they also stayed at the Taj Mahal. They had their own suites and stuff. And it was betting and he had me stowed on a lot of stuff.

But anyway, when I told him, please don't ever tell me you hurt somebody. he was like, Robin, what do you think I do? You think I'd just go around here whacking people? And I'm like, well, I don't know. He goes, Robin. If people gets involved, he goes, it's not like I could just go whack him. He goes, you know, we talk to him. I'm like, you talk to him, huh?

Right. I mean, that's what I would say if I was like an assassin who wanted to convince you. No, but I'm saying like, if I wanted to convince you that like, yeah, you know, like these things happen, but like it's not like it happens all the time. going to talk to him first. You know, it's like, I could just imagine sort of padding the, there's just saying like, yes, this guy died and then there's like adding all these extra layers of fluff to it. Oh, I didn't picture.

I didn't know, I didn't know, I mean, you told me. I don't know how many people were killed. Oh, okay. He said he just took him for a trial. I'm just assuming he's lying, though, right? I don't know. I don't know at this point. I thought him all, you know, fuzzy bunnies came out.

I was speaking of fuzzy bunny. Can I show you something from the fuzzy bunny? Of course, yeah. Yeah, I brought it along. Oh, exciting. Yeah, since he was little when we found it. So I got this one thing. I always, this is actually had in my wallet.

You can tell because it's old, before McMillions was a thing. I always kept it in my wallet because I thought it'd be funny if I ever got pulled over. I might have a chance if I had to get out of jail free card to give it to him and be like, dude, you get like, you got a lot. No, that's not from the show. I've just had that like forever.

Oh, nice. Gave a chance for the young. Maybe he would laugh and let me go. Right. But these are from my dad. I have a VIP. Fuzzy Bunny card. This was like, I guess, what he got with his signature.

And this was his... The low country's largest adult entertainment complex. Fuzzy Bunny's VIP Gold, 1995. Damn. Ask manager about the gold card monthly special. This card remains the property of Fuzzy Bodies and can be revoked. I wonder what you have to do to get a revoked. Exactly.

Oh, wow. This is his card, too. Wow. From the Trop Poker Club. He was a poker player? Yeah. Damn. I know you play a lot on line a lot, right?

Oh, I'll play on. hell life too. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah, man. Damn, that's so sick. He was actually good at it, too. Really? Look, we would be, when I went, I didn't go all the time because Frankie was so little,

but when I did go, I would be like on roulette because you got odd even, you know, black and red, 50-50 chance. Here he'd put $100 on one number, and here I'm putting $5 on red, and then turn around, and then turn around. He used to not, turn around, you got $5 frigging dollars on there, you know? Yeah, you won. Oh, yeah, I've got $10. I got $100 something in my pocket, but I'm happy over that $10.

Oh, yeah. It'll go a long way when you win. Let me ask you this. Do you feel like you can now sort of identify something about yourself, personality-wise, where you were attracted to this lifestyle at a young age that now, as an older person, you can look back at it and say, like, fuck, like, that was kind of crazy that I was behaving in such a way. Well, it's funny because I was dating a retired federal agent at the time when I met Jerry.

Right. And comparing the two, I went for Jerry. Right. Yeah. He was pretty boring. Real boring. You wanted some excitement. Yeah, of course.

Right. You know, it was young. Then I got a little more than I chew off. A few flags went up, but I stayed. Right. Wait. It's not so bad. But once you get in, it's hard to get out.

Well, yeah, I could have. No, I could never. But when you're born into that family, you can retire, like my father-in-law. But if you join, you can never get out. Right. Because they're never going to trust you. Yeah, exactly.

Maybe if you moved in Mexico, you could sort of fade into, they're not going to care anymore at some point. I don't know. It depends on what they've done and didn't know. If it's still going on or whatever, you know. Right. Definitely. A lot of people think it's nothing wrong, you know, that it's gone.

It's not gone. As long as there's stuff, money to be made on illegal things. But how alive is this, like, culture still? Like, people always kind of say, like, oh, there is no mafia anymore. There is still. Like, because it's kind of weird. Like, I watch a lot of the Sopranos lately. We've been rewatching the whole thing.

That's Jerry. Tony Sopranos Jerry. Okay. Because it's kind of weird to watch it and be like, man, From my perspective, it's kind of hard to imagine a world in which, like, 45-year-old Italian dudes are the ones doing all the cool crimes. But they are. Maybe not in Southern California. Do you know why?

Do you know why, though? Maybe, I don't know. No, because the younger guys do not. They have to learn that loyalty and how to keep that mouth shut. Because guys, young guys, getting into that, they want to brag. I just made this lick You know Until that friend

That comes with wisdom You know with that That's why it was so long for them to You know Get in I just don't know if there's really Italian mafia out here in LA Like it feels like if somebody's

If somebody's getting beat up For mowing the wrong lawn In LA It's probably Yeah Just a kid or something So I really wasn't raised Like in that lifestyle

You know Like I said it was kind of sheltered But I did go to Sicily, totally different lifestyle there. Like guys in suits on the corner. That culture is still super alive there. Crazy. So different.

Yeah. There's even a lady that comes down from the mountain and brings like bread and eggs from the village and like it's awesome though. Wow. It's so cool. Yeah. That's pretty dope. I've got Mr.

Colombo's story. He's finally told it. My grandfather, he's got some stories. Yeah. Coming from Sicily. And we've got to wait until February. But why February? Because of the documentary?

No, because of the person that I trusted with my book. They trusted and the contract's going to run out in February. Oh, okay. But that's a heck of a story. Lots of stories. He's never told that to anybody. He's always a real quiet guy. And he's happy to tell the story?

It's not like one of these things where you're never supposed to talk about it? No, because most of them are dead. Right. And, Cicely. Man, his lifestyle started when he was five. Like, on the beach in Sicily,

like 1940s, just getting chased, like, crazy, like by his dad. Yeah, just insane stuff. Do you watch,

do you relate to Carmela? No, because I didn't have that kind of commodity with women. What do you mean, though? She had a bunch of other women

in the family that she was cool with. That's not true. I mean, It could be true. They don't want the women associating with each other all that much. Matter of fact, that was one of my big beefs with Jerry. I'm like, I don't have any friends, you know,

because I didn't want to bring my friends from Jacksonville up there into that and then freak out. And the cul-de-sac I lived in was a very nice place where we lived. And these were not my type of women. You know, you had the commander's wife. And, you know, they did ornament parties. cookies baking things and I couldn't bake. So finally, I said, I'm going to go buy the cookies, you know.

Went to the mall, bought the cookies. And everybody's going around the table, tasting the cookies. And they're like, Ms. Colombo, how did you get so many chocolate chips in your cookies? I'm like, I went to the mall and bought them. They're like, oh, God, she went to the mall. She went to the mall. Did you hear that? They couldn't believe it.

No. Really? I had to get out of there. But then there was a lady from India, from Quinny. She goes, oh, I like you. I know you. Because she was allowed to go to the store? No, because she was from Queens and she had heard of my name.

So she could relate with me. And she's like, I like you. She goes, I don't like me. I don't either. Let's go. Wow. Interesting. Yeah, they were just so pretentious, you know.

I mean, if you want to control somebody, you just keep them locked away from other people. They're going to, like, help them see what reality is, right? Yeah. Well, I started seeing a shrink, and I thought that was my thing. okay I can start talking to him you know now I can just talk until one day I came out of the bathroom

I looked down the hall and my husband's having this deep conversation with the doctor like this and I know that look and I know that stance and it's just like I went nuts I just ran down the hall and I jumped on them like a gremlin

so the shrink was like was basically a set up by your husband to be able to get all the information? No, well, kind of and keep me. Anytime I was like, you're so divorced, you're this, that, whatever, they would appease me, you know, with, let's, just you want a horse, give her a car, give her 15 grand, give her this, get her friends here, whatever, you know, fly her here. And, you know, it sounds like, ah, you little spoiled brat, that didn't handle, happen for, you know, that didn't make you happy. Well, sometimes it did, but sometimes it didn't because the end of the day you're still alone, you know.

And anyway, so I thought that doctor was me, me and him, you know. I could just talk to him. Right. And in reality, he was just writing a prescription. So when I realized that that was really his thing, I ran down the hallway and I leaped on him like a gremlin, you know, because he was a big guy. And I'm choking him. He stands up. I'm still on him.

I'm dangling from the floor. And here's the doctor going, Robin. Let go of Jerry. Okay, okay. This is fine. Go ahead and leave Jerry. You know, I sat on the couch and basically I had nothing else to say to him. Wow.

I mean, what else? You must have really felt you couldn't trust anybody, though. Exactly. Absolutely. Fuck. It's like a Truman show of shit where everybody's just sort of working behind the scenes against you, huh? Well, it was. Fuck.

That's scary. It was. Did you ever feel like they were going to kill you because you knew too much? No. Never felt like it was that crazy? No, they were pretty big on not hurting women, children. Really? Yeah.

Not like they're rushing. I mean, you know, others. I've heard that, but then I've also heard about a lot of girls getting killed because they knew too much. Well, you know what? It depends on what they did. Well, I did punch them in the face at the club, but... No, that ain't that bad, right? Yeah, exactly.

That's what I thought. That's what I thought too. They're probably all saying, ah, that's just Jerry's wife. He'll take care of her. It just depends on, I don't know. I don't know what they, I didn't think I'd ever really cross the line

except for maybe that would have been my big thing is running in there, threatening them. Right. I mean, I feel like if my girlfriend punched me in the face, we could get over it pretty quick. It's a girl. It's not going to hurt. She breaks my jaw.

She breaks my jaw. It's a little awkward. Yeah, I didn't break his jaw. Yeah. I think it comes with having a kid. I'm just saying. He's putting that up. Yeah.

And I forgot I even had him in the car still. I could probably think of shit that I've done that I would understand if my girl wanted to punch me in the face. You know. Yeah. That was one of them. Right. Yeah. My girl threw a henny bottle in my head.

Oh, wow. Not really. She'd throw it at the ground. But I've accused her of like, you threw that honey bottle. And she's like, I did not. I threw it at the ground. another thing that comes to having a kid is getting kicked in the face at night

by your kid. While you're sleeping, they'll just decide to do that. Oh yeah, all night, bro. Like, they could be, because she has her own room and everything, you know, but always ends up in our bed.

And even if she's, like, way at the bottom of the bed or wherever, she'll always end up way at the top on the pillow, like feet to the face all night, just boom, boom, boom. Wow. Yeah, it happens. So get ready for that.

I'm scared with some, like pads. Right, right. It's at that point. Like a sparring match? Maybe. My guy Josh. over here. He told me that a big part of it is that they will just punch you in the

balls because they don't know that that hurts yet. Yes. So that's something I'm kind of scared of. Especially if you get a big reaction because then they laugh and that's it from there. Yeah. So if that happens, just hold it in the best you can and it won't happen again. Hopefully. I still can't even promise.

Don't let them. I've tried that too and she's still. She's up there. Oh yeah, she's up there. It's like magnets. Wow. That's terrifying. Okay. So how are you planning on like really making something out of this like in terms of monetizing this turning it into something like are you considering doing YouTube vlogging you're going to start your own podcast what's the idea I've really seriously thought about it right but you should help I don't know if I get the audience for it you know I think we could do something together or if I could do it I don't know is it really

audience you think I mean the McMillions thing was so big that if you could find an interesting way to like provide more information I love people like I'm a people person right you know and I'd love to just talk to people all day. It would be so cool. Yeah. You know, the way you just said that, that it was so big, I don't know. I guess I didn't watch enough. And I've lived in Missouri the past year just because it's cheaper to live there.

So no one's seen it out there. So no one knows me out there. Oh, really? Yeah, for real. Like a few people. I got, I recognized at Walmart a couple times. Really? Like, you got hooked me up with a cool phone.

He was like, you're a guy from HBO. I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, you work at this phone place. Like, let's talk for a minute. Yeah, and people love him, you know, because he was the poor kid, you know, that had to grow up in it. I mean, people are fascinated by the women. They're fascinated by the kids.

Anybody who's sort of wrapped up in the shit without necessarily having a good reason that they had to be. Well, you know what? When you just said it was so big, I really didn't realize it was so big. Right. I honestly did not watch it on YouTube and social media.

Because I mean... I stay away from that stuff. I feel like every single person who works here immediately knew what I was talking about when I said Robin Columbo, they're like, her? Oh, really? So, I mean, I feel like it's kind of, it's a thing. That's awesome. I guess we'll find out, though.

We'll see how far this podcast goes. Actually, you know, at the top, like every one of them. Because in the book that I wrote, it's not just about mob stuff. It's about a lot of stuff that I as a woman have actually been through

devastating stuff that I'm surprised I'm still here. So, defector. Defector. And I and this other gentleman have been kicking around a nonprofit organization for women and children and different things that maybe something good can come out of it. That's awesome. Because I've always said, I mean, there's so much that I've been through that there's no way you can have a nonprofit

for all of it. There's just too much. I mean, because there's some people that probably couldn't have walked two miles in my shoes. It's not just about that I won that. Well, actually, I didn't even get the ticket. I came my ticket away. Right. But I went to prison for it.

I really want to, like, point out one specific person, too, like from Instagram, actually. She reached out to me and was like, hey, I'm a young mom. My husband just passed away a couple months ago from a car accident. My son is two years old. I just watched your show. Like, I really relate to you. She was like, I'm in a dark. place like will you just talk to me and I literally talked to her on Instagram for a couple days

and like I felt like she related to my mom a lot like in that time you know I called my mom and asked her for advice it was like talking back and forth for them and it was really cool wow yeah it was like I actually felt like I love helping people man like if I could do that that's awesome I've had a lot of women talk to anybody and and review thank you for sharing your story because I there's nothing I left out not a thing I bear it at all And I put it out there. And so a lot of people, women mainly, thank you so much. I can't believe, you know, because I've been there, not maybe everything, but I've been there.

So it helps women when they think that they're the only one that's been through certain ordeals. Because I've been kidnapped. In this whole mafia type thing? By enemies or by people on your own? on the same side. Oh boy. Tell them the story about. So stupid.

You know, the one we talked about with when you got kidnapped with me. Yeah, you were with me. He was with me. I was under being covered under a pillow. That's kind of talked about in McMillions. They talk, but they don't get really get into detail. He was standing by the bed and I was screaming with a pillow over my face. And they were threatening me because, of course, they wanted the mother to be with my son,

but they were just going to keep me. somewhere and feed me enough to keep me alive and just say I went off and did drugs so that would have been you know nobody would have been looking for me I was just off doing drugs and um so you know I'm looking around like my surroundings and I'm like these idiots really just leave this door open so I grabbed my son and I just ran for the door and And it's not funny then, but it's funny now. And, oh, that's one thing. You've got to have a sense of humor to get through life.

You really do. 100%. Because most of the crap that I've been through, I laugh about now. And I've made some kind of joke out of it. But I literally picked up my son and I just ran for the door. And then I could hear the goons behind me. And I looked in a room because there was a room open. And this maid was doing the bed, right?

and I go call 911 and I heard she heard saw the messes saw the guys after me she goes ah Lordy Jesus you know and so here I go running I get to my my explore running and have my keys you didn't have the keys right were you carrying me or was I was carrying you kind of I don't remember I was carrying in you but thank God she got to the police in time for the place to show up because, yeah, I didn't have my keys. Wow. But I did escape. And if you hadn't, things might have been pretty bad.

Way different. God damn. Yeah. You definitely got a story to tell. If that got left on the cutter room floor of that documentary, then that's... Oh, there's a lot. There's so much. Yeah.

Millions is just a piece of me. Just scratching the service. I feel like I got into detail about a lot of things, too. But they also did a really good job of portraying the good out of me. Like just the positive stuff. Yeah, they do. which is what I'm really about, you know, just positivity and things like that. So it's cool. They did a great job with that.

They are, yeah. But there was a lot cut out. Because it wasn't about. But there's so much too to the story. Like I see some comments are like, oh, I don't think it needed to be that long, but like it could have been longer. Yeah. The six parts, like as I kept getting deeper and deeper into it, like, like the moment when you first come on camera, it suddenly starts to make sense like, oh, okay, this is why we need a whole bunch of episodes. Because there's a shitload of interesting characters involved in this, you know?

It's a lot, man. Yeah. Fuck. Pretty much. Okay, now I can say anything. Oh, you can say that. It's cool, yeah. Just say it a couple times to get it out.

That used to be my favorite word, actually. Not anymore? Nah. Okay. I'm trying to stop cussing, but. That's okay. Got the vape pen. Quit smoking.

I know. I'm so proud of her. Look at that. No much smoking just vaping? She used to smoke cigarettes like crazy. That's awesome. Yeah, because I was nervous. Yeah.

Yeah. I say this as someone who just smokes a cigarette, but it's a disgusting habit, yeah. Well, yeah, you know, people smell it on you now. And nowadays it's not socially acceptable. It is. When you see somebody bust out a big-ass cigarette, it does kind of stand out a lot like,

oh, I think he's a cowboy or something. What the hell is that thing? It just seems like so much. You know, in my 20s, I was dating Alan Collins of Skinner, right? And so we, clubs we went into, and I bartended. We just partied and you smoke smoking cigarettes everywhere, you know, in the clubs, everything. So it wasn't taboo.

Now, if you even smoke one outside of a club, which I don't really go club in, but a restaurant, for example, people just. Yeah, you look at you like a piece of shit. God, I can't leave you. When you watch old movies and you see people smoking in restaurants. They make it look nice. But it was weird, like immediately just stands out to you like, you're blowing fucking smoke. If someone's face while they're trying to eat a steak, what are you even? What about a hospital?

Oh, the hospital. That's so crazy. They used to smoke in hospitals. I bet they had vending machines with cigarettes in the hospital. Probably. Probably. Definitely. They had those everywhere.

Remember that? And you're a kid. So it just looks like a game to you and you're kind of looking at it like, oh, Newport. I wonder what those are right. I remember that as a kid for sure. Marlboro? Hmm. No, yeah.

Definitely. It's crazy. I remember like the Denny's where I grew up was half smoking, half not smoking. But what is the, what is the, the divide. It's like, there's no divide. It's just like. Oh yeah, the non-smoking. Yeah, there's one lady sitting here and one lady sitting here and she's smoking a whole

pack and she's not and somehow she's supposed to be safe from that. Like it makes no sense. Right. Logic. Kind of crazy the thing about it. Anyway, you guys want to smoke some cigarettes? Let's go. I think any cool story starts like that. No, we all do. I smoked a cigarette. Yeah, one day we were just kicking and smoking cigarettes.

That's the whole story. Oh, yeah. That's it. We just smoked a bit. Just hanging out blowing cigs. loud sigs and drinking white claws also I appreciate you guys coming on anything you guys want to promote or let us know coming out

well other than the non-profit organization that we're going to get kicked off here have any personal questions like what kind of music listen to what kind of movies I don't know I don't think it gives shit yeah probably not what kind of music yes I don't know I still listen to Skinner's though

still oh yeah tell them about Skinner she dated I told them Oh, okay. We missed it. Oh. Damn. Anyway. She mentioned it real quick.

Yeah. But, you know. Actually, though. My nephew is, like, raps a little bit. He's pretty big in Jacksonville. Oh, yeah. My grandson. Yeah.

Yeah. He's big in Duval. Really? Yeah. Wow, I like it sounds real good. He's real good. Yeah. That's fine.

Well, he's locked up right now. Really? Yeah, because him and, you know, they get on, they go after each other. with words on their music. He's in jail because of a rap beef? Yeah. Literally, dude, because of music videos.

Like, showing guns in the music video. So they're like, oh. You might have him on here. No, he didn't have sluggie on here. Not Tyler. He didn't have Tyler on here. Not Tyler. I'm going to look into this now.

Any song that is intense enough that someone could go to jail for it, realistically sounds pretty interesting. No, no, the other. Oh, what? They had Instagram videos starting in each other or something? Yeah, and then somebody. in one of these cities, I don't know where it was in the U.S.,

they did a whole thing on Duval with these. Because these are kids that played Warner's Pop football together. And now they're rappers rapping against each other, you know? And the gang squad coming to your house looking for your

grandson over a video. Right. I'm like, what? That is crazy. They go straight from football to like on-line gang-bang. I'm like it's the same thing. Can't you go get this gang that's coming back at them? They said, well, because they keep moving state to state and we can't catch them.

But I said, well, he can't because he's got an ankle monitor. They should move to L.A. because all these rappers are screaming at each other online in L.A. And the cops are basically like, if there's not a dead body, we're not showing up at this point in L.A. It's pretty crazy. Well, Duval's just feeling it. Right.

They got nothing else to do. No, they do. You go to Florida, and it's like, oh, shit, everybody's going to arrest it out here. Because there's no real crime. I'm on vacation and leave on probation. Or it's the waiting room for God. Oh, yeah. A lot of old people.

I've gone harassed riding bikes in Florida and just been like the cops being super aggressive and angry and I'm just looking at them like, bro, like, are you serious? Like I wish you understood how the cops act in L.A. because it's not like this when it comes to riding bikes. Because in L.A., there's so much more real shit to deal with. I literally have a possession of weed charge for a little blunt roach and like a tiny nug barely. And that's actually messed me up from jobs and stuff. What the fuck?

Can I shout out of my Instagram? Yeah, Francesco underscore G underscore Columbo. And he's out here wrapping the McMillions franchise. He's letting you know. It's cool. He should check it out for sure. Yeah, Mark Wahlberg was the executive producer on McMillions. And I believe Ben Affleck's getting ready to a movie, McSam.

Him and Matt Damon. So it's going to keep going. Wow, that's interesting. I'd like to you, man. They've pretty much confirmed. Every good story now has so many different ways that can be translated. It could be a documentary series.

It could be a movie. It could be a Snapchat documentary. There's a lot to it to make it a good movie too. Because there's been not really a whole lot of good stuff out there. If you see your husband being played as Brad Pitt, your ex-husband, how's that going to feel? I don't think that would even... It's not right.

He's not the Brad Pitt in the group. I thought it was even wild seeing whoever that little kid was, you know, in McMillions, it played me, like, in the backseat, you know, crying and stuff and, like, running out of the store with a purse. Yeah, there's a little kid that played me. So shout out a little kid, Frankie, whoever that is. Shout out to him. Yeah. He's going to be a big actor one day. I watched it. I watched it. It was just hard to watch me. I could, you know. A little too real. Honestly, yeah, can I talk about that for a second? Sure. That's the one thing about the show that

really broke me down. Because I didn't really, they kind of, I didn't have a warning. about the accident, you know, being in the show. I didn't know they really reenacted the accident like that. And that's something I've never really seen like that. So it kind of hurt to watch. To see this like visual reproduction of what really happened. Really intense. They did a great job.

You know, it was really dramatic in the way they left it hanging. Right. But man, they did call me that afternoon to inform me. Yeah, we talked a little bit about it before. Mrs. Colombo was going to be the one that their son was going to throw under the bus. But I told him... He had no right to do that.

No, what son does that? He trespassed them from his house. Anyway, I told them, look, I fought with them already 20 years ago of this. I knew they did it. So I'm not going to back up. We're family again. We love each other.

I'm not going to go back and let's fight again. And they said, good. We just wanted to make sure you knew what you're about to see. So kudos of them for even doing that, you know? I could have just not seeing, they were good about that but I guess not maybe

the accident. I didn't see that either. There was parts I couldn't watch just because it was just too, I couldn't stand to watch Frank and Heather. For a second I thought that Frank was the one you were coming with. Both of them. And then I realized it was him and I'm like, oh, okay. Oh no, that's why we call him Francesco now.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I used to just go by Frankie and like Frank, but no, now I don't anymore because, yeah, now it gets confusing. But I like Francesco. Yeah, that's a cool name. Some people don't like to say it, though, and I'm like, sorry, too bad. Too many syllables. I guess so.

Francisco Gennaro Colombo. That's cool. It is a pretty... Thank you. Honestly, man, I just want you know I really am happy to be here. It's cool. I appreciate it. It's way cool, yeah.

Thank you so much. You are. Hey, if you are looking for some gangsters out here, I got a couple of them in the other room. I can introduce you to some of my friends. I don't know. I appreciate you guys coming on. Thank you. Thank you.

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