No Jumper - Rocstar2800 on Wack100 Drama, Roddy Ricch Controversy, 03 Greedo, The Gay Crip & More
Episode Date: August 26, 2023Rocstar talks about his early days, upbringing, spending hours on Clubhouse, DJU, Big Folks, and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST http...s://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world.
Today, I'm sitting down with a man who's been making some noise on these internet streets.
You already know.
Rockstar, 2800.
You already know rock star Smutfree TV.
We're in the building.
So is hip-hop trends dead?
No, some legalality going on right now.
Like what?
You're getting shut out by the original owner or something?
Nah, not, not that.
You know, I got to make it make sense.
It got to make it make sense, you know.
I built it to a point to where I feel like it's notable.
It's gotten to and we decided.
It's basically just a renegotiation phase, right?
Really?
Yeah.
So there's an owner or are you the owner?
No, no, a partner.
Partner.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
I like you.
And we got different visions on how, you know, the stuff's been going.
And, you know, I mean, I was always, always had my own smut free.
He always had that from the beginning.
I took the back seat to trying to, you know, build hip-hop trends, get it off the ground.
Okay.
You know, I felt like we didn't came to a point to where we definitely then made some noise
and, you know, stamped ourselves out here in these Internet streets.
And, you know, I had a lot of people hollering, hollering, trying to come, you know, give us some money or whatever.
And it's just we got to get down to our business before we get to other business.
Okay.
We can't do that.
Then we ain't going to have no business.
Interesting.
You know, so smut free TV, Rockstar 2800, YouTube page, cracking.
What about people who have smut?
You can't post them?
Nah, I mean.
There's a lot of smut going around these days.
Yeah, it is.
It definitely is.
Some have called me a smut peddler.
You know a lot about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but then there's the smut of like smut on my name, i.e.
Like, you're a snitch or whatever, you know.
Yeah, but you ain't got no smut like that, do you?
No.
You sure?
I mean, I'll be happy to snitch, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I heard something about something.
No, yeah, I would probably call it Cups, yeah.
Somebody did like seven years?
No.
You sure?
No, but I called the cops on some crackheads one time.
No, a dude tried to rob your story.
You got seven years?
Yeah, yeah.
Who told you that?
Maybe I have answered our source.
Maybe we know the individual.
Well, that would make me happy as if that was true, but I don't know anything about that.
No, but I did go to court.
You went to court, you got on the stand?
No, they've canceled it.
I got up at like 5 in the morning or something.
I'm in the courtroom at like 7.30 or 8 in the morning.
morning and then I see the kid sitting with his dad right there for the record
we're talking about the kid who put the gun in my face go search it if you're a
new fan and I mean I seen him with his pops
that's the same one that's the only person I could think of that could ever get
seven years oh okay store but then okay if we're talking about and the dude locked
himself you're right though because then two days later I'm interviewing big
boy of big boy in the morning out here and a fool walks right into the store
with a BB gun,
points it at the employee,
walks the employee as if he's going to take him
into the back of the store, and the employee opens the door,
bow, closes the door,
and the fool throws the gun on the ground, runs out,
gets in his car, and then just stays there,
and the cops surround his car.
I never really, I got a couple of calls
from, like, you know, legal people about that,
but I never really heard anything about it.
But if he got seven years for that, this is insane.
Did you go to court on that one?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, but I did call the cops on some,
bumbs outside my house that one time okay you're going to go down now back in the day no did you ever
get on the stand for anyone no but if they give me a good offer but you made a statement yeah yeah
that's good enough hey i'm just a regular guy that's good enough i'm not enough in these streets
i could have sat here a lot um all right so give me the the origin story of rock star 2800 where are you
coming from where were you born rock star 2800 i'm a west coast baby i was born actually
I was born in Arizona.
You know what I'm saying?
I was born in Arizona.
Moms came out here.
91, 92.
I came right along with her.
I was born in 89.
You know, I lived out here through the riots.
All that young young.
I lived all over LA.
Lived all over L.A.
You know what I'm saying?
From South Central Englewood, Hollywood,
you know, Valley.
A little bit everywhere here and there.
What else?
Gangbagging, I mean, getting into it.
You know, as a kid,
I always wanted to rap, though,
like since probably I was, like, seven, eight years old.
As far as rapping, rapping, it was just, like,
instrumentals, rapping, hustling, trying to find some money.
You know, I was selling CDs and DVDs out here.
Okay.
You know, hey, do we real, L.A. for me was, like,
L.A. for me, was, like, either robbing or selling CDs and DVDs.
I'm like, as far as drug dealing out here, I never was on that.
You know what I'm saying?
But older, when I got older, and I went back to her,
Arizona, you know, that's later down in my story.
Okay.
But as far as growing up, L.A., young, single mother.
So you joined a gang at what age?
About 12, 13.
What gang are we talking here?
West Boulevard Crip.
Okay.
How did this take place?
How did this take place?
You said, boy, this is shouting crazy.
How do you end up the position?
It's sounding crazy.
Okay.
So, at the times, you know, moms,
You know what I'm saying?
No pop.
Don't even know my pops.
You feel me?
So the streets just, it just, you know, it was my family at the time.
You know, I was in group homes, foster homes.
I were AWOL a lot from these places, hanging out with the homies.
You feel me, just thugging.
Just in and out the streets, you know what I'm saying?
Just when everybody had to go in and they had parents and the lights came on,
I was still outside.
You know what I'm saying?
I was hanging with because I wasn't supposed to be hanged with.
Right.
12, 13 years old, feel me?
So that's how that happened.
You know, I met my best friends.
friend, rest in peace, tied it on my arm,
Crenshaw High School,
and she just took off from there.
His whole family is from the neighborhood.
So, me and him just instantly click,
just start being everyday roadies,
you know what I'm saying, in these streets, just thugging,
and then, you know, join her, join the hood, you know what I'm saying?
So, you know, his brother was a general over there, baby Kakey.
Did they have to woo-wop you in there?
Oh, yeah, come on.
How long that last?
I'm from 28th Street, so we're going to do 28 seconds.
Oh, that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
28 seconds.
That seems kind of long.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's long if you don't know how to fight.
Oh, it's a lot better than being at 98th Street than they're doing 98 seconds or whatever.
No, no offense to 98th Street.
I don't know what they got going out there, but I mean, for sure.
28's a lot better.
I mean, 17th Street would be great.
Yeah, I mean, 28 with two people, about two, three people.
Oh, okay.
So, you got f***ed up or you're all right?
No, straight.
You feel?
I can get knocked out, knocked down or nothing, but, you know.
Right.
You just got so you got a heart.
You know what I'm saying?
You're willing to do that.
You wouldn't, you know, you're going to face fear in the eyes.
You feel me?
Like, shit like that's going to happen.
You feel me?
I think the homies just be preparing.
You really want to join this.
You know, we're going to teach you some discipline about this.
So was life normal after that or they start sending you on missions and shit?
I mean, no, no, it was turned up.
No, this.
My son, my, this is right here.
So you started the answer as super normal.
No, no, no, it was cool.
You're a cold.
What?
You're a cold.
Hey, but no, for real, no.
Like, I mean, it was turned up.
I'm going to be real.
I always said, like, my first couple months of being from the hood is like,
that's like the most work we ever put in.
Right.
You got to earn your strikes, right?
Straight up.
So, you know, yeah, it was turned up.
It was really like that.
You know what I'm saying?
For real, for real.
Okay.
Do you ever get locked up in shit or what was that?
No, I mean, I've been apprehended.
I mean, I've been, you know, took down to this.
I've been fucked with arrest, you know, by the grace of God,
throughout LA, you know what I'm saying?
And trust me, it could have been times, you know what I'm saying?
You know, but I wiggled and, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm here.
Do you graduate in high school or anything?
High school, I got kicked out of Crenshaw, went to alternative schools.
What did you get kicked out for?
Man, all type of shit.
So I went to Hollywood, got kicked out of there from fighting, Fairfax,
got kicked out of there for Dress Code.
And Crenshaw, I just didn't go to class.
Dress Cove?
You getting too fly?
No, no, they had this thing where you couldn't wear white teas
At a particular time
I felt like the white tea is like the safest thing
Exactly
But, you know, the Mexicans
It was happening way back then they were talking about
They was gonna kill any nigger wearing white teas and shit
You know, everybody was feared for the young black men
Like, you know, stop wearing white tees to school
They try to make the rule
Like 2007?
Everyone just had a giant white tea
No, for sure
No, no
No, we was old four
403, 04.05.
We were on the East Coast, right?
Yeah.
And I remember, so we're watching like the skaters
and the BMX dudes and stuff,
and then one day it's just like all the dudes
from LA had giant white teas on.
And I remember just being blown away
because that just had not really caught on on the East Coast.
But it did, it ended up catching off.
Pro clubs. Yeah, they've been at it. I mean, they had it down self.
It just goes through waves.
Cash money, hot boys. They were wearing big-ass t-shirts.
Oh, and my white tea.
You ever wore?
You was wearing big-ass t-shirts?
I don't know how big.
Are you fascinated with gang culture?
Duh, I'm talking to you, right?
Oh, damn.
You cold.
Hey.
No, I always been like that, though, since I was a little baby.
Yeah.
Why was I listening to Doggy style over and over?
I was in second grade.
So, look, do you know the difference between the blood and the cryptcords?
You know, the neighborhood, the gangsters?
I know that.
Do you understand?
I wouldn't be able to break down their stuff.
statistics for the last 20 years or anything like that, but I have an overall idea.
Do you understand the literature and the oaths that Chicago gangs take?
Oaths? No. I'm not getting that deep.
I'm telling you, it gets deep, though.
If they try to get me to take a oath, I'm going to say no, thank you, sir.
No, not you take an oath, but understanding that, you know, this shit will be, you know,
this shit get little technical.
The bebies and the GDs, they got oats?
They got, like, literature and shit.
Like, when they go to jail, they got to read scriptures and shit.
They don't know that shit, some of them they can tucking off on.
See, that's not a piece.
to me. I'm just trying to slide.
What is this thing talking about?
Adam, you're full of shit.
You're full of shit, man.
Straight up.
Yeah, I am full of shit.
Okay.
But so then,
so what happens, like,
through your 20s or whatever?
Like, what do you do after the school part of your life ends?
I mean, school,
it really is just like, shit.
It's streets, just, you know,
really getting in the bullshit,
You know, at this particular time, I'd have built a name,
and it's just back and forth, back and forth is, you know,
I got to get the fuck out the way, you know what I'm saying, type of shit.
So, you know, 20s, I just, you know, I was focusing.
I was rapping.
I wasn't, I wasn't really taking this shit.
Listen, I ain't really started, like, I was rapping the whole time,
and, like, the hood know I rap, and everybody know I rap,
but as far like, with me, I'm a presentation type of.
I like to present shit a certain way.
Not no bullshit, you know what I'm saying?
So me, I'm like, I'm trying to put money behind it.
I need the right person to hear it.
You know what I'm saying?
I will push it out.
And to me, it was just like, it's mediocre the way I'm pushing this shit out.
You know, I didn't really start taking this series.
Like I said, until I started hustling until I really started getting some real money.
You know what I'm saying?
That's going to be like, what, 24, 23, 24.
I have my baby 24, 25, my first child.
Your kid made you want to get into selling drugs?
Nah, come on.
Don't say that.
That's not a dog.
I was selling drugs before she came.
man but you know what I'm saying she did definitely made she made she made
make motherfucker go harder right you know you know so at the time I'm going
hard I'm putting shit in perspective so now I really want to rap like I really
want to take this shit serious because I know I can't rap but now now I can put the
I can do something with it you know so now I'm going around I'm getting features I'm
running into people everybody coming through you know I came I came back to
AZ probably like what I've been back and forth like damn near since I
was like 17, 18, you know what I'm saying?
Back and forth, back and forth.
But I start staying there probably like 23, 24, you know what I'm saying?
Start staying there.
And when I'm out there, like, it's a different feel.
It's a different, like, you can't go rob.
You feel, me?
Because everybody got a pistol.
You feel me?
Like, they didn't make a law where anybody could conceal now.
You know what I'm saying?
Old lady, don't matter.
You don't need no license, nothing.
So niggas ain't out there flocking and rob.
in like LA.
Right.
It's not like that.
You feel me?
You're going to be very careful
who you walk up on an approach.
Really?
The motherfucker gonna shoot your ass damn.
Interesting.
So out there,
the hustle game was more for me,
you know,
and I,
and I adapted to that
in a certain area.
You know what I'm saying?
They got like a little figure row out there.
Oh, really?
You know what I'm saying?
27th Avenue.
You had some hoes on the stroll?
Man, I did it all.
Really?
I had a little bit of a head thing,
but look.
You got a little bit sharp in you?
You got sharp in your heart?
Hey, sharp, sharp,
Hey, Sharp knows what's happening with his- Really?
Yeah.
If Sharp was here, he would ask you all kinds of questions to figure out how really you are.
No, no, that's my, no, that's my thing.
Yeah, he knew what's handy.
Hey, but, uh, nah, so, yeah, you know, I started really getting the name out there for hustling doing my thing.
I start throwing shows out there, putting my hustle money with these shows and putting it behind my music, get these features.
So I figured, look, what's the best promotion?
What's the best promotion?
You know what I'm saying?
What's the best promotion?
put myself on headlining shows.
You know what I'm saying?
Put myself on the flyer,
put myself on the billboard.
So that's what I started doing there.
I was throwing shows.
We brought everybody out.
I mean, everybody.
I did a lot of stuff.
But so Mazzi, I did songs for Mazzia.
I did songs for Slingfow Honey,
and I done songs for A.D.
You know what I'm saying?
Even more people to name that songs
ain't came out yet,
but those are songs that are currently out right now,
you know what I'm saying?
Mazzie, I brought them to where I trapped at,
where I hustled, you know what I'm saying,
showed them that, you know,
it's some hood shit out here
it hazy when they came through
basically it was just easier for me to run through
artists out there, you know,
versus being out here, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
When they come through, it's not a lot of niggas like me
that can really get up on niggas.
So I was, I was marketing that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, come through the strip club.
I'm in the strip club.
I'm a nigga in the strip club at the time.
I'm hustler.
I'm rapping.
I know the DJs.
I know everybody, boom.
Rapper come through there.
They got a holl at me.
Plus, I got the gas.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just kept it.
you know, I kept everything full circle, like,
just kept my relationships from back then,
from meeting everybody, from throwing shows,
to, you know, coming back now
when I'm doing this interview stuff, media, you know what I'm saying?
I know we're getting a little off.
So you book a Mazi show.
He's getting paid X amount of dollars,
and then once you get him in the whip,
when you go to pick him up at the airport or whatever,
you start being like, hey, yeah, I want to do a feature too,
and then you get them for the load.
No, no, no, no.
I didn't book no Mazzie show.
Oh, okay.
I'm gonna get that.
I didn't do it on Mazzie.
Mazzi was coming through there,
and I was friends with all the promoters in town,
like whenever it's a show.
And, you know, when Mazzie came through,
he was doing features,
and I ran up on him,
and we hollered, you know,
only crib, niggas, they was all bloods,
you feel me?
And we hollered, boom, woo,
we chopped it up,
it was all love.
That, man, listen,
I'm gonna keep it real.
I got a shout out Mazzie on this
because the shit that he gave me back then,
the niggas ain't gonna get right now from him.
Like I'm saying, the verse.
He went off.
The number.
I'm talking about the number.
They gave me a beat in a verse for a good number.
Okay.
That never get right now.
And they cleared it from, you know what I'm saying?
So that's like the first song I really seen some rap money off.
Shout out, Mazzie and Davo.
Shut out, Mazze.
You know what I'm saying?
No, because you know who does this thing in Arizona is Bulak Kiv.
Yeah, I know Bullet Kiv.
Because Bulak Kiv, he has a nightclub out there.
Yeah, I know.
I'm convinced that's how he's getting some of these interviews.
He gets some fire interviews.
And I'm like, oh, well, maybe he books him at the club.
or some shit, and then he's like, hey, but you got to do the interview when you come to LA,
boom.
No, no, probably, but look, that's genius.
That's smart.
You know what I'm saying?
That's genius.
You know what I'm saying?
They're cracking out there for show for show.
You know what I'm saying?
I'll be out there.
You know, I know the truth.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying.
Arizona different.
Arizona different, man.
Yeah.
You don't like Arizona.
I've been in Arizona a few times, riding bikes and stuff.
Insanely hot for my experience.
And then also, it seems like it's probably like quite a bit safer, right?
Like, that's where people end up going once they're sick of living in L.A., right?
Kind of. Yeah, it seemed like people go there in Vegas.
You know what I'm saying?
But to me it's like, look, you got to know your shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You're going to be in these certain type of states.
You know, you're able to carry.
It's certain shit you get in.
And now we legal everywhere.
We legal out there.
Yeah.
Fully.
I remember Wack one time telling me, though, be careful if somebody lives in Arizona
or Vegas and they're from L.A.
Because they might have moved there because they snitched
and they're not allowed in their neighborhood anymore.
Yeah, Wack would be on real shit.
Not to put that on you or anything.
Yeah, but Wack know the truth about me.
I'm too, listen.
I ain't worried about nothing is in this shit.
They know, I'm too.
I'm 200 out here, too solid.
My name, you know, I'm more like a media.
I got to get on you, too, because you were talking shit,
talking about I'm a shit starter.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm far from a shit starter.
Matter of fact, you're the biggest shit starter of the mall.
That might be fair.
Yeah, you instigate shit on that day.
I know my own kind.
But when I look at you on the clubhouse streets,
well, yeah, shit starters.
No, I'm not a shit starter.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I'm more like a mediator.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm the one that's preventing this shit to try to go further.
I'd be like, can we come to a resolution?
I let them get their shit about the way.
But in the meantime, you're going to make some content.
Yeah, but see, I can admit when I'm on bullshit.
When you're on bullshit, you play the victim.
Let's talk about it.
Play the victim.
Let's talk about it.
I am the victim.
See?
See?
Let's talk about it.
I don't got to play.
I'm saying.
Let's talk about it.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay.
Talk about it.
People always say that on podcast now.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
Talk about it.
You know, I'm just saying, like, when it comes down to these certain situations or whatnot, you know, and it's the gay, like, let's talk about the Chicago shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Ruger was tripping on you about asking them certain questions.
Right.
And whatnot.
And then, you know, you're not backing down from what you're saying.
You're saying that, look, I just went along with it because he's telling you don't do it.
Don't do something.
You told him, did you really tell him?
Okay.
He wasn't going to do it.
I didn't say I wasn't going to ask him any questions.
I just said, yeah, I'm not going to go crazy on you, which I was used to because I've interviewed him before.
He doesn't like it when people make the whole thing about his ops, which is a problem that many of the GDs deal with is that people do interviews with them and they want to talk about their ops because their ops are more famous or whatever.
I've heard GD's complaining about this shit.
But I implore anyone to go listen to that Ruger interview and tell me how much I talk about his ops.
I asked him one question about Dirk from what I remember,
which was basically because the academics and Dirk interview had just came out
where Ruga, where they asked Dirk about Ruga by name,
which as far as I know, it was the first time he ever talked about him by name in an interview.
And Dirk talked about how, you know, he didn't go to the Kanye show or whatever
because they had booked his ops on the show.
If you're a rapper interviewer and you don't ask Ruga about the thing that Dirk just said about him,
you're not doing your job.
And academics tapped in with me.
and actually said, he goes, he was really mad at you
for asking him about Dirk?
I would have made the whole interview about Dirk.
And I'm like, I know you would.
See, but he would never sit down with him.
Yes, he so would.
Oh, would Aks sit down with Ruga?
Maybe now, but like, I don't know.
Before all this, probably not.
I don't know.
But either way, like, I didn't really ask him that much.
And then the one thing that I did do fucked up,
though, is he told me he didn't want to put the interview out.
And I should have hit him up and been like,
yo, I'm putting the interview out anyway.
That was a good interview.
I don't want to fucking waste it.
And then he probably would have been mad,
but at least I would have been straight up with him.
Look, do you care if any of these people kill each other?
Yeah, of course.
No, you don't.
No, I do.
All death is bad.
That's not the truth.
I'm anti-death, believe it or not.
But then just leave certain shit alone there.
Like what?
If it's already out there,
because how many times have we been down this road
with, you know,
ops against ops and all this, right?
And I'm just saying,
I understand the purpose of the interview.
Like, you wouldn't have interviewed him
if you wasn't going to ask him that question.
he should have known that on his own.
So I'm going to agree with you on certain shit,
but then I just can't like...
You ever listen to Ruga?
I'm not familiar.
But every song, there's about 50 fucking dead beaties.
Every song, everybody's dying.
So that's what you got to talk about?
All I'm saying is that you can't be mad at me
when every goddamn song is a disc track
and you're smoking on everybody under the face of the fucking sun,
every O Blockian you ever heard of.
And then I do an interview with you,
you're going to trip about me, ask you about one extremely famous opera years who just
mentioned you on an extremely high profile interview.
His first interview in years, come on.
No.
But anyway, Ruga, I mean, we're going to see each other when we see each other.
Yeah, he came in clubhouse, you know what I'm saying?
Him and folks got into it.
Yeah?
Then Whack challenge.
Shout out folks.
Wack challenged, you know?
Yep.
You know what I'm saying?
Folks on you, too, about that DJU shit.
That was funny, right?
Because I already had heard that story about him bringing DJU.
You come on here and tell that story, man.
I want to know if the story is true or not,
because I had already heard that story from somebody else
before you even heard it from him.
He talks about it on the big folks and friends show, man.
I'm the co-host of that show, man.
We got the big folks and friends show.
Dropin.
He's a good guy.
Funny guy.
Folks are fools.
Shout out about Chicago.
So, okay, how do you know Brick Baby?
Brick baby.
Brick baby.
We were from a clique before we start backing hoods.
We was from a clique called C-R-P.
What would that stand for?
Completely irresistible pimps.
Ooh, that's a cool name.
That's a sign of the times.
You wouldn't even hear about a crew name that these days, right?
So that click started inside my hood, West Boulevard,
where it's Boulevard Crips, you see what I mean?
So Big Baby used to live in my hood.
They actually still own property in my hood, you know what I'm saying?
So Big Baby was kind of always with my homies, you feel me?
And then he gradually turned 6-0, you know what I'm saying,
throughout the years and whatnot.
And then, you know, he always kept us close, though.
It always been because we're already close with the same.
so a lot of people know our, you know, know our history or whatnot.
Okay.
Yeah, but no, me and Brick was thugging young age, you know what I'm saying, before the
cameras, before the rapping, all that shit.
Hood hopping is, like, the biggest no-no, or it's like very frowned upon.
He ain't no hood hopper.
No, I'm saying, but like, there's this whole weird generational divide where a lot of people
are from certain cliques, and then they joined a real gang, and that is okay.
It's kind of interesting, from the outsider perspective.
Yeah, because we'd be young at the same time.
a lot of people don't know God, they be from this neighborhood.
A lot of people from them clips, clicks turned out to be from other hoods too.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So a lot of people didn't look at it.
I mean, it's more high school, fun, you know what I'm saying?
But, I mean, some people took a series.
Some people were banging clicks like gangs.
You didn't jerk?
I was one of them.
Nah, hell no.
Why not?
I was not part of that jerk movement.
Too big?
No clown movement, no, none of that.
No clown dancing, none of that.
I don't think I could have been a dancer.
I don't do nothing that.
If I lived through that, I'd be like, no, that shit gay.
Yeah, you ain't going to see no old videos of me jerking doing nothing that.
Right.
Okay, that's good to know.
Don't get down like that.
All right, so is Big Meach from your hood?
That's, yeah, that's where, I mean, I can confirm that because, for one, he called in to a homie.
So I guess he has family.
He has a nephew that was in the hood.
He was in the hood back in the day.
We're going to say like 90s, you know what I'm saying, early 90s growing up.
He used to be coming back and forth.
He got family in the hood.
He was attached to.
some close home boys.
He tapped in with a homie from prison.
You feel me?
And he ended up running in to two of the hummies.
You know what I'm saying?
Some real generals while he was in the feds.
Took pictures with him and the homie tatted him and all that.
He's from the hood.
He's banging West Boulevard.
Wow.
They call him big zip-bo.
Really?
Where do you get that name?
I do not know.
He had a zippo lighter one time?
Let me tell you.
This is above my pay grade.
I'm going to tell you.
Like, oh.
Just a messenger?
You know what you heard?
You know what I'm saying?
But no, the niggas that was in there with them,
they're out right now.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, they just got out.
I'm doing about 17.
Okay.
So, you know, they, you know,
we're going to see what happened when he come home.
Got it.
You know what I'm saying?
When did you turn your powers away from, like,
booking artists so much and wrap in
and put it more towards the media side of things?
Man, you already know, the pandemic.
Ah.
It got ugly.
You couldn't book any artists for a while?
Man, we still got the positives.
this day. Really?
Because it was so ugly.
You know, you can only do 50% capacity.
You know what I'm saying?
And we was bringing people
and people just wasn't even showing up
for the 50% capacity.
That was the best when I would, because I'm a person
that I hate going to the club. I don't want to
go out ever. And I would
see videos of people in the club and it was half
capacity and it would look so
lame.
I would just be like, bro, this is why
I don't want to go out. I know it's like
normally it's packed but look how lame it is even when there's like not that many people there
yeah it was terrible so we lost some money right i'm saying had a pivot so we just went you know
it was a pandemic time and i'm like fuck it my home boy actually was telling me uh we already had
the blog up we had the website hip-hop trends we had the youtube wasn't really doing that my home boy was
like get on clubhouse my home boy napo from far far he got a shit called mixed emotions we
was doing a relationship-based rooms and that shit was killing that shit was bringing all the females in
there all of LA you know what I'm saying so he had us in there so I'm like oh I'm like I don't really
hear nobody talking about hip hop on here like really bringing up the discussions about to know jump
or all this shit so I had a niche on there you know what I'm saying a niche and uh you know I'm saying
so you can say niche too yeah I know it's kind of weird I know it's so different sounding but yeah so uh yeah
I started hip hop trends on there, hip hop trends clubhouse.
And, you know, people just gravitated to it.
They wanted to come in there.
Plus, I was different.
I disrupted the whole clubhouse system.
Really?
Why?
Because, like, I gave people a voice.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, a lot of them rooms, a lot of them rooms, like, people don't get on stage.
They get kicked down.
They're not, like, whack rooms, especially.
They're not letting niggas up.
His rooms are harsh.
Bro, they are not letting niggas up, bro.
Really?
Really from, bro.
They're picking and choosing.
You say some dumb shit they get on your ass.
And that's how they run their shit.
I'm not knocking none of that shit because, you know, me and whack, we, you know, we, we're here and there.
You know, I don't know what our relationship's like, but.
Really?
Yeah, we're here and there.
I thought you guys were cool.
It's up and down, man.
It's up and now, man.
It's up and now, you know what I'm saying?
What's he mad at you about right now?
I think the last thing was the green beam.
What's that?
So the green beam is like being moderated, like a moderator.
Okay.
And once you do that to a person,
they got the power to bring people up on stage
or kick them off.
Right.
You feel me?
People play clubhouse games.
That's what I'm saying.
People play in a whole other world.
Wack got a whole different world on.
He has a digital army, literally.
You feel me?
My room ain't ran like that.
We don't fall by no politics,
clubhouse politics.
I don't go to fuck about who you think you are
or where you came from.
We don't care about nothing that.
If you talk to ignorant and you want some bullshit,
we don't really,
we don't really get down like that.
We'll kick you up out this, motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay.
Whack come with a certain energy.
When the hummus, when you come with a certain energy.
When the motherfuckers come, all the trolls come for some reason.
Woo-woo, whoa, whoa, motherfuckers get to talking crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'll be having my shit a little bit more control.
Sometime to get out of control, but we tighten up.
You know what I'm saying?
And them other rooms, they ain't going to do that.
They're smashing on you.
They're going to pack you up and get you up out of you.
I'm willing to have a conversation with you
and give you a voice, give you the floor.
Here both sides of the story.
This sounds a lot like jail.
Just like weird little rules and all the different rooms.
But see, but that's the mentality from coming like,
whack treat that shit like jail too.
Right.
He's rolling, he's talking about rolling motherfuckers off the floor and shit.
I'd be like, man, what the thing are talking about?
You know what I'm saying?
So I just feel like I disrupted it.
You know what I'm saying to where I had my own lane
and, you know, I made some noise to where
I was able to cover the no jumper shit
that was going on.
When nobody doing it on there,
I was able to bring motherfuckers on.
You know, I mediated a lot of y'all beefs.
A lot of your shit.
Like what?
From Lush to Flacco.
I wasn't there?
T-Rill, smack.
You're talking about Lush and Flacco?
We're supposed to fight?
Yeah, all that.
I got Lush on there.
Made him apologize to Flacco.
You know what I'm saying?
Who else?
We had T-Rail, smack.
Insent.
I mean, anybody come on.
and floco.
Wow.
Yeah, we were doing all the mediating all this shit,
like making sure, you know,
motherfuckers wanted to know,
like, I was able to mediate that shit.
I'm like, that's why I say,
when you caught me a shit start,
I kind of took offense to it because I'm sitting there.
Yeah, I'm trying to mediate shit.
You know, I let people get off.
They're going to get off.
You can't control a motherfucker mouth.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't put guns to everybody head
and tell them to come up in here
and talk crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of niggas blame me for whack,
for whack coming in the room.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't know if you remember the 1090 shit.
What happened with him on that?
He came up in there and whacked went crazy on him.
But that wasn't my intentions.
You feel me?
Like, my intentions is for people to have a conversation.
Whatever goes left goes left, right?
You know, I can't control that.
So I just want people to know.
I'm not no setup artists.
I don't get down like that.
You know, when you come to me, I'm giving you a platform.
I'm giving the unknown a place to go.
You know what I'm saying?
If you're the underdog or you got a story,
And it's newsworthy.
Come fuck with me at Smurfree TV.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going to throw you up on there.
We're going to hear your side.
How many hours a day are you on this at night and shit?
Man, that shit, let me tell you.
Earlier on, it was out of control.
You know what I'm saying?
Just to get it cracking.
You know what I'm saying?
But now, you know, we managed it.
You know what I'm saying?
I've managed it.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, I did have to.
But now it's making me money.
I'm monetizing.
Yeah, how do you monetize it?
Yeah, I'm monetizing.
I just stream the rooms.
I streamed the rooms through my youth.
YouTube, clip it up.
You know what I'm saying?
Anybody come through there?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm clipping up.
So I don't even have to go on Clubhouse.
I just go to your YouTube
and it's automatically on there.
Yeah, for so.
Okay.
Every room that I'm doing now,
I've been doing that for the last couple months.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Getting into it,
I got an editor helping me on YouTube page
has been taking off going crazy.
You got people who are in there every night?
Yeah, for sure.
I got loyal supporters,
lower hip-hip band members
that have been there for a minute,
that just fuck with Rockstar 2800 though.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just there for me.
So, you know, but yeah, no, definitely.
I got the team.
Do you think, are these people who, on average, like, want to do something in hip-hop media?
Yeah.
They want, like, a career.
Yeah, no, definitely, definitely.
People want to, they're interested, curious.
If they're not, you know, familiar with it, they're excited about it.
They want to get into it, man.
We got editor, we got all people with pages, a lot of YouTubers, a lot of people that want to just help however they can.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's great.
for networking.
That's why I think what, you know, I threw a brunch.
I threw a brunch from off of there.
A real-life brunch?
Yeah, Super Bowl in Arizona.
Okay.
I threw an influencer brunch.
And I brought everybody out, Flacco pulled up.
Really?
Folks pulled up, football players.
Gang of people pulled up, but a lot of clubhouse members came and supported.
Flew out, drove.
What do you think of Flaco?
Flacco, man.
Flacco, man.
That's not an easy question.
Yeah.
He's a complicated guy.
Yeah, but no, that's my nigger.
No, that's my nigga, though.
I just don't want to get shit misconstrued.
Like, that's really my guy.
You feel me?
You know, we was able to know each other on a different level,
really highlight each other because I had to pick his brain
the whole time I was with him.
I had to pick his brain.
You feel me?
And I understand.
Like, he's been through the ringer on Clubhouse.
I don't know if you know, he's been through the ringer.
Yeah.
He'd come in there at some nights and get drilled the whole night.
This niggas just going at him.
just on him just and he taking it just the usual shit yeah i'm talking about hours bro just same
shit old shit always talking bringing up to 16 shot him shit you know so i always asked flock oh like
so how was you raised like you know where because a lot of this shit plays in fact you know what
i'm saying we don't know his parents no no he he tells me like he his mama never told him
told him not to tattle like he had brothers and sisters you know how you get into with your
brothers and sisters and you know you're always picking on them this and that and you come tell
on your brother.
Right.
He never had that.
Like, he never did all that.
His mother never said, like,
nah, don't stop tattling on your brother.
Don't be a tattletel.
He never,
he never hurt.
Like, that's why I told him,
like, different households
got different values.
You know what I'm saying?
And different principles.
So I be trying to really take myself
out my shoes
and put myself in this dicking shoes.
And then I look at his age.
He's 25 years old.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, bro,
when you're 30, 34,
you're going to see all the bullshit
you was talking when you was 25.
You ain't going to believe
all the shit.
you would say.
Right.
You feel me?
So it's age,
it's lack of knowledge.
You know what I'm saying?
It's everything that has to do.
You know what I'm saying?
Everything plays a part with flogical.
I love him.
Yeah,
no,
he's great.
He's definitely smarter.
But everybody who loves them also has their critique
of certain things that he says and does.
Like,
he just has a tendency to sort of like act as if he knows
everything about something with very little real world experience.
Exactly.
He kind of has gotten better at that.
But I remember he used to talk about like, you know, just bum-ass N-words
You just sit around smoking Zaza all day.
And I was kind of like, bro, like you don't really know anyone like that.
Like you know, I know people like that, but you don't really like,
you're just kind of like repeating some shit that you heard other people say about what dudes are like, right?
He forces his opinion as fact.
Yeah.
And that's what I tell him.
Stop forcing your opinion as a fact, nigga.
Like that's not a fact.
That's your opinion.
It's okay to have your opinion.
but don't force it as a fact.
But that's what he's known for.
He's outlandish.
That's what he does.
Shout out of Flacko.
Back in the day,
one of the funniest podcasts ever
from the No Jumper Universe
was the community episode
where I was ridiculously high
and AD was calling out Flacco
about his girl
and all the weird
giving her a ton of money stuff
or whatever.
Personally, in regards to that,
I just stopped asking questions
a long time ago.
Boy, you don't even know.
Oh, man.
See, that's how I know y'all talk to Flok.
See, I really know Flok or if I could tell you some shit right now
that'll blow your mind.
There's updates about his lady.
What?
I don't know.
I'm not that.
Man, that nigger probably could bought a house right now.
Much money.
He just said her.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
But he, okay, I'm almost tell this.
He came in playing some cash app game.
Have you played that game?
No.
The cash app, go to your cash app, go to your wife,
go to your wife and see how much
you can click and you see how much
she sent you how much you sent her and that's
crazy because like Crip Mac
when he stopped fucking with that one girl
Layla Cakes that's what they posted
was like she posted the screenshot of how
much he had sent her versus how and it was
like he had sent her
10 times as much as she sent him
so that was basically like boom I won
I won we were in a relationship I won
and I'm like I cannot believe that
this is what technology is
this is like allowing us to view our lives
in totally different ways.
I have never used cash app.
So I am kind of oblivious to this.
For real?
You never used cash app?
Nah,
because I just have Josh do it.
You do Zelle?
You Vennmo.
I used to Venmo.
I fucking hate Vemmo.
I used to give out my Venmo.
The motherfucker's got Vimow right now.
Kill yourself.
I used to give out my Venmo and people would fucking...
People have Apple Pay, Cash app.
Every day I would get a $1 request from like 100,000 people.
It was so annoying.
I had to learn the lesson to not give out your phone.
fucking Venmo. And then I thought I got hacked at one point. They like took my last like 50 bucks out of
there or something. Yeah. I don't know. Man, hey, why you, why you throw 03 under the bus like that?
Okay. Do you think I did anything wrong? Man, you threw him under the bus.
Grito reached out to me and told me that I did nothing wrong. Hold on. You consider him as a friend.
Yeah. Okay, you was in your feelings because he didn't come to do your interview first, right?
It wasn't mostly like that. It was mostly just the fact that if they're, if they're, if they're
There's paperwork going around of him.
That shit is getting out one way or another, right?
If he'd done an interview before and that hit your desk, would you acknowledge it or no?
Even if he had already done the interview with me, and if someone came to me and said, hey, we got paperwork on this dude, my response would not be like, hey, bury it.
Get rid of it.
It's already coming out one way or another, right?
My only response was, I don't do that.
I'm not the paperwork review guy.
so if you want someone to take a look at it
and let you know what they think of it
and how valid it is, here's 1090 Jake
this is the guy.
I don't see what I did anything wrong
and Grito reached out to me and told me the same thing.
He said he didn't think I did anything wrong.
Yeah, now.
Probably like, fuck it.
I mean, he's the one who's having to actually deal
with the consequences of 1090 Jake making that video, you know?
Yeah, but if you never passed it long
and we never got out there, let's keep it real.
But it wouldn't have been,
it wouldn't have had a person saying that it was real or not.
See, this is, y'all.
It would have just been floating around with no context.
Y'all underestimate your platform.
I'm tired of hearing this.
Like, every time you say no, it won't, like, no, you say yes it would.
But I'm saying no, it wouldn't because you're the biggest.
Okay, here's my question.
You're the biggest.
Is it a good thing when snitching comes to light?
For who?
Is it good for society as a whole and the community as a whole when someone who snitched is exposed as a snitch?
I can't say that.
I can't say that is good.
Maybe it's good for street culture, but don't know.
Everybody else, everybody else don't give a fuck.
Well, okay, everybody else, yeah.
But in terms of, like, the people who care about this kind of thing,
the reason why there are people like 1090J who make those videos that are very popular?
People tell them.
That's what I'm trying to understand.
Why do people care about other people telling?
Because people care about authenticity.
Ain't nothing.
And if your whole identity is based on you being a gangster,
and then it comes out that there's paperwork about you,
then it should be brought to light.
I agree with you on that, but it should be brought to light in his hood neighborhood.
Oh, you know that.
That's not how this works.
Everything that happens in everyone's neighborhood is a YouTube video waiting to happen.
Yeah, there's too much shit that a lot of shit that should be behind closed doors
and not on the internet.
But this shit is trickling into the streets and this shit is making the shit look bad.
But the person who hit me up with the paperwork is a gangster, is a dude who's really
from the same hood that Grito is from.
I understand that.
And what did he want?
He wanted someone to make a YouTube video.
But if you really consider him as a real friend, you wouldn't have did that.
And that's point blank.
Okay.
No?
I'm very good friends with Brick Baby, right?
Yeah.
If you hit me up and you said, hey, I got this paperwork on Brick Baby.
You know what I'm going to say?
What you're going to say?
I'm going to say.
Running.
I know a chubby white boy from Massachusetts named 1090 Jake.
I need you to holler at him.
It's not my business.
I'm not going to be the one reviewing it.
That's crazy.
You even suggesting that, offering that, that shows no loyalty towards your real friend.
No, but...
That's what I'm saying.
It's just content of it with you.
It's just content.
If snitching really is as bad as all these gangsters and rappers over the years have persuaded me that it is,
it should be exposed even if that person is my friend.
It doesn't matter if they're my friend.
Okay.
Now let's switch.
Which is different than something similar like cheating.
If I knew that Brick Baby was cheating on his girl, which I do not for the record,
I would take that secret to the grave because I think cheating is something where you should have your bros back.
I don't really think snitchin's like that
I think it's so bad that if it's happening
people deserve to know
I mean
what people though
the streets
hey man
the streets man
we really talk about the streets
I really believe what I'm saying though
I really think that like if it's so bad
then it deserves to be talked about
and I shouldn't be involved in hiding it away
if it's and I also was like
assuming I know Grito
I trust Grito I don't think Grito would
tell or do something whack like that.
So when they come to me with it,
I'm assuming that 1090J is going to see it
and give it a bad review and say,
this paperwork stinks.
This paperwork's no good.
Get it out of here.
Hey, you straddle the fits a lot.
Pause, but yeah, okay.
You don't think so?
I don't know.
I don't take a hard stance on many things.
I understand that, but you build alliances
and you know what I'm saying?
You're being seen with certain people as, you know,
people are your friends.
You know what I'm saying?
So there may be other people from other hoods that disagree and may, you know,
just by the alliance.
Do you ever fear for that?
Okay.
I was just having this conversation with Esbone about Chinamac,
where,
you know,
we see Crip Mac getting into situations with people at the Dhrushki show or whatever.
And Esbone was saying, like,
Chinamag, you're right there.
So they all are considering you a part of what,
they're repin or whatever.
And at a certain point, if shit were to get crazy,
I mean, Chinamax kind of like,
he's clearly, like, aligned himself with that.
For me, I do interviews with everybody.
So I don't feel like, even though, yeah, at times,
it's like, oh, you might have seen me with this person a lot,
so you're feeling like I'm with him.
Even right now, I do a part of whack and I do a part of a brick.
Nobody's confused about where both of them are from.
You know, you're skating on thin ice with that, too.
That's a good point.
I don't know, yeah, you know the truth.
Very soon we will not record both shows in the same space.
going to segment that up.
Hey, you and I know the truth.
We do.
Hey, why you won't let Munchy B come up here, man?
Why are you turning this into an interview?
I'm going to do my D.J.
I'm going to do the DJU and say,
You thought you was interviewing me?
Hey, I asked questions.
I don't answer too many questions.
I heard DJ you say that the other day.
I'm like, that's kind of cool.
No, shout out to Munchy B.
I got nothing against them.
What's up, man?
You select a politicking.
Okay.
You say you interview everybody?
Okay.
And I ain't vouchers.
Listen, because the last time.
That ain't my buddy.
The last time that I was forced to make a decision about whether I wanted to interview
Monchie B or not was like a couple weeks after Draco died.
And he already had a diss song out about Draco.
And obviously they had gone at it a bunch on the internet and whatever before that.
Now there's very, very, very few rappers that I have a close enough relationship with
where I give a fuck about having a conversation with somebody that's,
their enemy or whatever, right?
But when he had just put out a disc song against somebody that I was very, very close
with right after that, that definitely was a situation where I would have looked crazy
as Draco's friend if I had interviewed Munchy B right now, right then.
To be honest, I saw a Munchy B clip on street TV or some shit the other day, and I was
thinking maybe it would not be as weird now.
But I got nothing against them.
It's just there's a few people where shit would look.
kind of crazy. Imagine if, you know, imagine. I mean, you interviewed everybody. No, but okay,
what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if AD had some, like, mortal
enemy, which I don't even know anyone like that, but then, like, you know, right now, I interview
him right after. So do you consider AD a real friend? Our friendship is on hiatus.
Man. I kind of assume that at some point, it'll be restarted. Come on. I've been alive too long. I've been
alive too long so think that we're going to just hate each other forever although obviously we're
not fucking with each other right now right yeah i mean i'm trying to understand like i thought i thought i
thought that you y'all looked at each other like real friends i mean this a man that was going to come
to your wedding you know i thought that too y'all had plans right like yeah yeah i felt like y'all was good
outside the building he pieced out but so after that it's like okay o g suicide is still working here
he's still working here after he wasn't only working here we were allowing him to use the studio
and actually allowing our employees to do the editing of the tic-toks and the video itself
and making the thumbnails for him it was basically just me doing him a huge favor for no reason
the goodness of my heart but not all good things can last forever you think that chair is for you
that chair is for you I didn't even watch the video so I just saw the he had a phone chair
he had a phone chair no I heard did he leave me
I don't know.
I was assuming it was ours.
No, he took it?
No, it wasn't ours though.
We don't have that kind of folding chair.
No.
You like that?
What?
Man, that's cold.
So I didn't understand what kind of deal there was.
So he never was an employee or he was?
Self-contractor?
No, he never worked for us.
I just told him, like, because he wanted to start a podcast,
I told him, I'll help you.
I'll let you use the studio.
I'll have the employees.
It's out of love for AD?
It was, yeah.
And then AD left, but I had already become cool with suicide,
so we let him keep doing it.
But then at a certain point, I pulled the plug.
And as is usually the case,
he did some weird stuff on the way out, right?
And threatened me with a chair.
Hey, so where would it ever end?
I don't know.
We might be too deep.
Nah, no.
I ain't go a lot.
You been getting spicy, and I've been meeting to ask you.
You been getting spicy these last couple weeks.
you had black pussy before
why do you wait to
black BBC getting your
wife for you to get spicy like this
to be honest
let's talk about it it was kind of like
there was such crazy
feedback and like so much
hate that it just made me feel
very free to speak my mind
about things and also
keep this in mind I did not do any
interviews after they left
up until
the bootleg kev interview
So Bulek Kev was the first person that got to ask me,
what do you think about those guys leaving on camera?
Because nobody here had ever really asked me about that.
I had shared stuff, but I had never had somebody asked me on that interview.
When I see that clip, I'm like, what the hell?
Adam Tripp.
I kept it real.
Yeah, but you flexing, like, you're really trying to stun on niggas.
Like, let's keep it real.
Like, you're stunning on niggas.
Because they thought they killed me.
They thought that they killed me off.
Me!
One of the goats of this shit,
But look, look, look, look.
Undeniable.
Look, I give you, I give you your props.
You could be my biggest enemy in the world and you still have to admit that I want to go to the shit and
that I have the most viewed hip-hop interview on YouTube with the XXXXA Sentazion interview.
I think last time I checked.
But okay, now this is what, do you believe in substance and balance in content?
Sure.
Do you?
Do I believe in substance and balance?
Yeah, I just named off one of the best fucking.
interviews of all time that I did.
And I still do it on a consistent
basis over and over and over.
Nobody goes as hard as me.
Okay, as far as the network.
Okay, that's good, right?
But I just, what happened to the hip-hop?
I mean, like, the real hip-hop part of the network.
You talk to a lot of rappers.
No jumper is named after a song.
I'm bawling like an athlete.
It's like, come on.
Like, let's, let's, like, we got to integrate some real hip-hop,
some balance and substance around here.
So you're a real hip-hop head all of a sudden?
I always been a hip-a.
I mean, I've been in love for the music.
I mean, that's what I'm into.
What's the hip-hop that has you going crazy right now?
I'm not excited.
I'm not excited.
So I got massacred for saying that a few months ago.
I'm not excited.
I'm going to keep it real.
I said that and I got destroyed.
I got the rights to say that.
I think that's what I know.
Yeah, no, I mean, there's this rap I'm into.
Man, is there an insane amount right now?
No, it's less inspired.
than it has been in recent memory.
No, it is.
It is.
It's terrible right now.
I'm keeping real.
But West Coast is coming up.
We'll be having different artists, you know,
that's popping up doing their thing and something grinding,
really in the cut,
you know what I'm saying?
I feel like West Coast produced a lot more artists.
Uh-huh.
Than a lot of,
uh,
they're like producing at a rapid pace.
None is breaking, though.
Like, none is really breaking,
breaking.
We got some,
you know,
that's something that made out Blue Blus clan,
they thing.
Yeah, LA hip-hop
not in a great place right now.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, I can't really name too many.
And the weird thing about it
is that Chicago
gang shit,
drill shit, as well as, like, New York drill shit,
is huge right now.
Everybody wants to know about it.
So many artists doing millions of views,
every upload, for some reason,
in L.A., which has, like,
the most complex,
craziest street shit,
obviously Chicago deserves
whatever,
credit they get. But LA got
the craziest world and the
YouTube documentaries go crazy and
shit like that. But then for some reason, we don't
really see any artists popping off
as a result. Whereas in
Chicago, Oblock is crazy
and then there's a bunch of rappers from Oblock. Do we give
them a chance? Do we have a platform to really
give them a chance? I don't really...
I can't think anybody's really going that crazy
right now. There's people... But do we have a platform
to give them a chance, though? You got
the biggest platform on the West Coast. I'm going to give
it to you. Yeah, and any rapper who has even
an semblance of clout and a decent story.
He gets an interview for the most part.
L.A. is probably the place I do the best job of getting all the young rappers before they pop off.
And, like, just personalities and shit.
No, my boy put me on you.
I wasn't up on you.
Really?
Probably young, Kaka.
I think you put me on Coole with some interviews.
It's like back when you was at the, not at the first spot, the first spot.
You want to hear my most recent additions to my playlist?
man point me to by fennity the rapper at cardi B hair cut by g-mack cash money by young thug juice world
Mickey Minaj Geeker party by punch made dev dunce by young nudie and baby drill punch made
dead come on man why are you bumping I actually I don't talk about you not law you what
You don't know you oh fuck all that I don't care I don't even pay attention to that I don't even know what they're getting into
flaco and punch made dead have a beef I thought the whole thing was trolling honestly
Like I fucking...
Bro, this nigga's serious, bro.
Is he?
Bro.
I just told Flacco that today, I said, bro, you know, you know,
motherfuckerman been telling me like,
I'm going to have to stop fucking with you if you get on the stand.
If you really go to court.
Flacco's saying that he's going to do that?
Flacco saying he's going to docks to him.
Okay, but how is Flaco any different than me?
I can tell you I called the cops on 10 people.
You're not going to stop talking to me.
Just because he's black.
No, no, yeah, and I deal with him a certain way.
He's like a North Dakota black.
And I deal with him a certain way.
Different.
You know, I didn't protect him and did all, you know, a lot of stuff, you feel me?
So now it's like, you get on the stand.
Now, I'm supposed to stand by that as my brother.
See, me, I already know.
See, but look, but this is what I get from it to.
This is why I tell people, we already know what we're dealing with.
Right.
Flog on and told us already.
He's going to call the cops.
He's going to tell.
We already know what we're dealing with.
You see the pants.
You know what you're dealing with.
I'm willing to accept that.
You feel me?
So he told me.
He's what it is.
He ain't doing it to me.
You feel me?
But it's just like, you know,
everybody got their opinion about it.
I don't give a fuck.
Flog, really, my nigga,
you know what I'm saying?
As far as this content shit,
he's a goat around his motherfucker.
He do his shit.
He goes crazy with it,
you know, at a rabbit pace.
This nigga eat shit, sleep content.
This nigga go to sleep on Clubhouse.
He does?
Yes.
We got that nigga story many of times.
Talking about, yeah,
I'm about editing the video.
We're doing editing the video.
A nigga on the sleep,
wake up, editing the video,
shooting the video.
Sometimes I feel like I don't know the real flaco because he comes in here like a crazy ball of energy.
And he doesn't really stop moving.
And he's like, he's going.
He's grabbing something out of the fridge.
He's doing something.
He's going to the bathroom.
He's going over here to talk to this person.
He's talking to this person.
And then he's gone.
And it's just, it's just, he has kind of crazy energy.
I can't imagine him sleeping.
That doesn't compute in my brain.
Bro, that nix snores.
The P.F that I know does not seem like a sleeper.
He snores.
Really?
Yeah.
Hey, I want to ask this.
Wack one, honey.
He has a list of questions.
That's cheating.
Man, come on.
I had to come ready.
I had to come ready, bro.
I couldn't remember the shit.
He's all the time.
And I had to ask.
I had to ask a simple question.
Come on.
Got to come with it.
So look, does Wack have any information on you?
Because y'all know if you ever fall out on Clubhouse is coming all out.
Well, he...
So just know that.
The world has access to my sex tapes.
So he can't like...
Yeah, I mean, that's nothing.
But I'm saying that's like his old...
Trick is like, I'm going to have a sex tape with you.
He's on some Epstein shit, right?
No, he goes.
Not that shit, but like, you know, he likes to keep one in the tuck.
Yeah, I ain't going to put that on it.
But no, no, no, but look, he goes crazy.
You see Tasha K shit.
Yeah.
She's the bad apple.
Yeah.
You don't fucking Totsa K?
I never really watched her videos or anything.
Yeah.
But she does seem like.
The women love her.
She seems evil.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar either, but the women love her.
You know, I saw, I was watching a video of somebody, and they said that,
there's no other black woman
who's able to hold as large a live audience
as her in the culture.
For real?
But then I tried to think of someone
to disprove that.
And I was like, yeah, I don't,
I can't think of anyone.
And what did you see this on?
I just saw someone say it.
And then I just kept trying to think.
I'm like, there's got to be somebody.
But then, I don't know.
I couldn't think of anyone.
Damn.
So Tasha K is kind of the goat.
No, she did her thing, but she got to sit down.
She fucked out that Cardi B.
Yeah.
She ain't going to see no money ever.
That's crazy.
Fast.
What do you even do?
What do you do if you're...
She knows she's reaching for a settlement right now.
Yeah?
Yeah.
You think Cardi is settled?
I mean, I feel like Cardi has spent millions of dollars pursuing this.
Cardi want to bleed her.
Yeah.
But you got to like really respect that level of pettiness
because there's been a bunch of times in my life where I felt like suing somebody
to just fuck their life up.
Yeah.
And just force them to pay a bunch of legal fees.
but I never really did it.
I always gave up or just forgot about it before I actually did it.
So I really admire the fact that CardiVee actually did it.
I've served a few people.
You get sued more than you sue?
Probably.
Do you win a lot?
You got to deal with a lot of shit as the owner of a media company.
A lot of people coming for you.
Yeah.
I choose not to disclose the details because I don't want to encourage this being here.
Is that a certain type of insurance for that?
I've thought about that.
Not that I know of.
They need one, no.
Propaganda insurance.
Hey, let me ask you one in between you trying to interview me.
What's going on?
What's your beef with Roddy Rich?
I don't got no beef of Roddy Rich.
Tell that to Remo who wrote that question because I don't know.
Remo fucking dumb.
Remo wrote that.
No, Remo, my nigga, man.
Okay.
Yeah, they ain't got no beef in Roddy Rich.
Your room was where the Roddy Rich storyline started.
No, no.
It started in wax shit.
Oh.
And then it trickled down to me because I interviewed Yael, the person.
Right.
Because I felt like he wasn't getting a voice in there.
There's another situation where he wasn't getting a voice in there.
He was getting shut down.
Okay, well, come on my shit.
Come chop it up.
He comes on my shit.
Niggas from his hood was getting on their defending Roddy.
And they was going back and forth.
And he did the first pull-up ever on clubhouse in real life.
A R.R.L.
pull-up on someone in the room that was talking shit?
Yeah, yeah.
He pulled up on his homeboy that was in.
in the hood, we heard him in the background.
Fighting.
And the dude got quiet.
Like, as soon as the dude put up, the whole time he was on clubhouse, he on his way over there.
At that moment, did you wish that you were on literally any other streaming platform
because there would have been a video option?
No, no, no, shit was crazy.
Yeah, no.
But the video ever come out?
The video of it?
No, no, because listen.
Did Rodney Rich ever squabble anyone over that?
No, no, no.
For real?
No.
I'm not from that way.
You know, I'm from West Boulevard.
I'm from L.A.
I'm just curious.
All right, that's Compton politics, though.
But shout out my nigga, Yael, because that was my guy, that's still my guy, doing his thing.
You know, he on that song with Wiley the Sensei.
Yael is?
Yeah, Scandalist.
That's a scandalous song?
Oh, he's on that song?
Yeah.
He at the end of it.
That's an amazing song.
Yeah, he at the end of it.
Shout out y'all doing this thing.
That's one of the best L.A. anthems in recent memory.
No, for sure.
Definitely, definitely.
He a part of it.
So, I be, like, to me, I'm a nigga that be, I see a nigga, okay, you got talent, boom.
You need to start using that shit.
How can I, you know, can I introduce you?
You know, I introduced you.
You know the first time we met at Drake's shit.
Drake, the battle.
Oh.
The battle rap.
You read that, okay.
I introduced you to Rum Nitty.
Shout out of Rum Nitty.
That was me.
I took a picture of y'all.
Oh, okay, okay.
On anything.
So, yeah.
My one and only rap battle.
Yeah, Rum Nitty, my nigga, like, you know,
so I'll be knowing certain motherfuckers and I be trying to help them push certain shit.
Like Nitty is a nigga that I've seen come from nothing.
Come from the bottom.
You feel me?
And that nigga deserve everything he's getting right now.
You know what I'm saying?
One of the top niggas in this battle rap shit.
Shout out Rumb Nitty, for real.
That's really my guy.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, you know, I've been around.
I know, Kassie Hustle, that was one of my best friends.
You feel me?
Yes, rest in peace.
That's one of my best friends.
We're really from the area.
Like, you got to think.
So I lived in the 6-0s as well.
You feel, me?
I stayed in the group home over there.
You know what I'm saying?
I met Nett when I was 13 years old.
Before, I got put on West Boulevard before he got put on 6-0.
You know what I'm saying?
So I know him as Little E.
Irmines used to sell CDs and DVDs on Crenshaw and Slosson, you feel me?
But I was part of that struggle.
I was right there.
I used to be hustling on that corner of the center of my little stress weed.
You know what I'm saying?
I remember I got into the niggie from over there told me I couldn't sell over there.
And, you know, I had to go hollet one of their big homies like, you feel me?
Because we're really too close, you know what I'm saying?
We really like cousins in this crib shit, you feel me?
So, you know, niggas got it straight and all that.
Thug in.
But nip, I've seen them coming from nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
We really was in them streets together.
you know what I'm saying before this rap shit before all that you know what I'm saying and uh
man you know I miss I miss my guy you know what I'm saying but you know I ain't no clout
nigga I ain't know I'm a nigga that really if you go do your research you gonna see like you know
I'm saying I'm really extended family member to them niggas you feel me me and black sand we still
talk every day every time I touch it down he you know he's showing love you feel me I'm I'm rocking
marathon I'm smoking marathon you feel me all day you know this right here is I need all my
You know what I'm saying?
Out the district.
You know what I'm saying?
But no, they definitely look out, you know what I'm saying?
Me and Sam still cool.
I got some shit going on.
I can't really speak about,
but we definitely done some business, you know what I'm saying?
Because I actually did music with Nip before you passed.
What's going on with the Nip or the Marathon store on that roads?
So the store is going to be opening up probably later on this year.
You know what I'm saying?
They're going to put the finishing touches.
They got the rooftop cracking right now for the private shopping and little events that they do.
Really?
But they're going to be opening up later this year.
They got the Marathon Collective.
dough, the weed store in Canoga Park.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why we're going to get the tree.
You think that's a good idea for them to make the move to Melrose instead of staying over there?
For sure.
I mean, that was always a dream.
That was always a dream of Nib.
He really wants stores in every big market.
He want a store, and then his dream is to put like, you know, his music.
Every time he drop 10,000 copies he could ship out from every store.
Imagine having 10 stores across the United States.
Right.
You feel?
You're going to platinum.
You're going off top.
Because, you know, your stores are landmarks, you feel
me?
And, you know, the stores ain't normal.
They're smart stores.
You know what I'm saying?
You can go in there and when you buy a t-shirt,
scan your phone on it,
and it shows a music video or some unreleased music or some shit.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's nipples ahead of his time, man.
But you're going to be able to put out a record that you did with him?
Unfortunately, that's what I'm saying.
I can't really talk about the whole details and stuff.
You're going to leak it?
No, no, I ain't going to.
I ain't doing none of that.
But yeah, we definitely got some shit in the works, you know what I'm saying?
I definitely going to be a part of everything that's going on in the future.
You know what I'm saying with the music that's coming out.
Yeah, man, some big things.
I definitely got some music coming.
You know what I'm saying?
We're dropping a theme for Smut Free TV.
A song called No Smut.
You know what I'm saying?
That's going to kick off the whole bread.
You know what I'm saying?
Kick off everything just make everything just coincide with each other.
You know what I'm saying?
So yeah, the music definitely coming.
I got features.
You know what I'm saying?
From Boosy to Filty Rich to OMBeezy.
So, you know.
But you know who people really probably want to hear a feature with you?
Who?
The gay Crip.
Nah, and let's talk about that.
Man, you don't play me like that.
I would never do that.
After Flocko played that shit, I couldn't believe that shit.
That, nigga, listen.
But look, how much convincing did you do Crip Mac and Brick Baby?
I didn't even know about this before it happened, bro.
They just asked me, is it cool if they interview them?
But I didn't know that Crip Mac was getting added to it.
So you didn't convince none of them.
I had nothing to do with the planning of it.
Brick Baby, we could tell you that on the dead homies.
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
They chose this way of life.
You had Sharp, Crip Mac and Brick Baby.
And Sharp looked uncomfortable.
Sharp didn't look like he said one word.
Sharp looked kind of high.
He didn't say nothing.
He was, he couldn't believe what he was watching, what he was listening to.
I don't blame him.
Bro, when I saw that.
Like, I knew, okay, I knew there was a gay crypt,
and I knew they did an interview with him.
When I heard his voice and realized, like,
what type of gay dude he was,
I could not believe my fucking eyes or ears.
That zesty motherfucker is hilarious.
You loved it.
It was gold for you.
Hilarious.
You couldn't believe it.
I did.
I loved it.
I loved it.
You proud of them.
Let's keep it real.
You proud of them.
It was a big step for the gay rights movement.
You proud of them, huh?
Yeah.
Well, I identify as a Zidi.
But, see, this is what I'm talking about.
This is where I'm talking about the backlash can come out.
You're laughing.
Yeah, nah, nah, nah, because you're on bullshit.
So look, this is where the backlash.
Zestia disciple is so good.
See, and shout out to the ZD's because I don't know what this nigga talking about.
No involvement there.
I don't know what this is a completely separate movement.
You can have fun with it.
I'm not for to play with you.
I'm not for to play with you.
All right.
So look, check this out.
So the backlash from this is, okay,
now a lot of people were saying that
you know the crypt shouldn't sat down with a gay
crypt because it's making a mockery of it
it's making a joke you know what I'm saying
so streets want to know like why give him a platform
you know what I'm saying why even
why even puts this agenda you
you say you had nothing to do with it
yeah I mean I didn't really plan this or anything but I support
and agree with them having the conversation
but you a okay because that shit was already in the news because
but you didn't warn them like hey man it's going to look
kind of crazy for y'all listen but you don't care
my understanding of what's okay in the gangbanger world
is still fairly limited.
I honestly would not really have thought about the fact
that people would be mad about it.
And even when I was just having a conversation with Esbone,
he got a ton of shit for just doing the podcast with Cowboy,
because Cowboy took the stand.
I would not have really expected that.
I knew that that shit was controversial when he did it,
but I didn't know that Esbone was going to be getting attacked
just for having the gall to sit down with him.
So a lot of this stuff, you know, I'm kind of like,
I would not have really known that the gay Crip interview would have been that.
Well, for Crip Mac, actually, I'm very surprised that he was willing to sit down with it.
Yeah, it's just some shit, I just can't associate myself with.
I don't blame you.
You know what I'm saying?
That I won't do.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's just, you know, sometimes this shit, this content, word is getting out of hand.
Out of content.
Content is getting out of context.
It's crazy.
You know, what is content?
Because a lot of people are saying you selling your soul from kind of hand.
Adam?
Yeah, I've heard that.
Question guy.
And wife, yeah, that's not even a question on there.
You don't get that ridden down?
That's freelance right there, right?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I mean, how do you feel about that?
I'm a different type of dude.
A lot of people's like, man, why are you like,
you do anything for content at this point?
Right.
I mean, for me, I think it's all about pushing the limits.
And that's why I was willing to try something
that was a little bit outside my comfort zone
because I kind of knew it would be shocking enough
to get people's attention.
And that's a hard thing to do.
But keep it going, to keep it going.
What?
Keep, keep it going.
Oh, I was having a great time with it.
Mm.
I was fucking wild.
Are you all right?
We're still going to do some crazy shit.
Mm.
Updates coming soon.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Woo.
I'm going to pray for you, Adam.
You better.
For real, bro.
Because it's like, when you look back 10, 20 years from now,
are you going to be able to agree with everything you've done?
You know, I've been a horny guy for a long time.
So I'm kind of proud that I'm keeping it going into my 40s.
You know, a lot of people, their dick kind of just shrivels up at a certain point.
I don't know.
Adam, man, you're a twisted individual, okay, man.
You're different.
You're a religious man.
Oh, nah.
Not really?
I believe in God, but I'm not like Christian or anything.
You know, I believe there's a God, though.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
But you're not, like, having conversations with them?
I pray.
If something bad happens in your life, are you asking for help?
Nah, very rare.
Okay.
I got to be down, down to the L.A.
I'm asking God.
You deal with depression?
Depressed.
Have I been depressed?
I have been depressed.
From what?
Defts.
People dying.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, man, I lost a lot.
A lot of shit.
A lot of hummies.
Really?
You know what I'm saying?
How old?
I'm 34.
Just turned 34 August 6th.
Yeah.
And you're making all your income from the internet right now, or what's going on?
Yeah, I'm four-time with this shit.
I don't do no street shit.
Ooh, that's not even what I meant, but that's good to know.
No, that's a hundred.
You probably wouldn't tell me if you were.
Yeah, but, you know, that's what it is.
I mean, you could smell it on somebody.
I feel like.
If they're breaking the law?
I mean, you know, you can see.
You could tell.
Yeah.
Somebody really on that.
You know, I still got mannerisms like that because I come from that.
You think I'm breaking the law?
But have you?
Yes.
Have you?
Have you?
You're breaking street laws, hood laws, but you don't care about the street code.
Yeah.
You really don't care about this street code shit, huh?
It's not really my world.
Yeah, but you, you, no, you can't say that.
See, you see how you just contradict yourself?
Well, I'm just not.
It's not really my world.
But I like to entertain and endorseing to hear my company.
All right.
You know, we talk about street politics.
We talk about it.
Right.
To L.A.
Bring apps on here so they can talk about how they go kill each other.
Let's talk to the truth.
I believe that I have not engaged in a criminal conspiracy.
So therefore, I'm okay with having these conversations.
Has your name got brought up in court?
Any type of court documents?
Nothing I know.
any of these game members?
I don't think so.
Interview, no Vlad type shit.
I don't think that's happened to Vlad.
Yeah, remember the Cassanova, right?
Didn't that shit get, bring up the interview?
I don't think so.
From Vlad?
I don't know.
I've heard Vlad talk about why this is not true.
Because it was a whole fake news article about the ARAB case in particular.
But if the court does end up using any of my content, you know, whatever.
You're not going to say, nah.
It's not like I can stop them.
gonna do it's on YouTube all they got to do is watch it so it's not really my business you look up to
flag yeah for real oh yeah you wish that was your daddy not literally I don't know how that would
really benefit me be real man it means it would have had me as like a 10 year old too do you look at him like a father
do you look at him like a father no no no I don't think my relationship with my dad mirrors my
relationship with him but he's always been very very good about like I can just ask him about whatever
he's fully like taking time out of his day to like run me through things business wise let me know
how he does shit and he's definitely somebody that I feel pushes the culture forward he's done a lot
of the most epic interviews of all time and he doesn't really get that much credit for it and I remember
like when I first met him and we went to get some fucking Chinese food together at some mall back in
the day in like 2017, maybe 2018. And I remember him just telling me, he goes, you know, I interviewed
Tupacusor. And I didn't even know that at the time. And I'm just like, yeah, really? And he's just
like, yeah, well, he goes, I interviewed Cardi B. He's like, listening off a bunch of the interviews
that he did like early on. And he's just like, think about all those are important fucking pieces
of history. And like, I don't know, like just the way that he talked about it made me realize, like,
how important this content could be.
And also the ex-interviewed definitely had that impact on me
where it was like, oh, okay, I did a random fucking interview
with this kid and it went on to become like one of the biggest pieces of content ever.
Like definitely probably like the biggest thing I ever did in my life.
And I did that in like the first year of me doing interviews.
So I got this crash course in how big and important content could be
and how many lives it could change and shit.
just like immediately as soon as I jumped into the game, you know?
Yeah, that's a good coach, though.
He's doing this thing.
He definitely a goldenness.
Hey, why does Joe Button and them hate you so much?
That's what I want to know.
I don't know if hates the word.
Well, it's hate you.
Ish?
Right.
He hates you.
He hates you.
You know what it is?
I'm like, hey, look, man, have you been on there?
He's trying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I watched him.
And that's the problem.
He tried to do this, like, boring ass, like,
you ask gang members about gang stuff argument on the show,
and it didn't go anywhere, it didn't win anywhere over.
Everybody thought it was lame.
And he's just still pushing it.
Like, he just really thinks that this is, like,
the narrative that's going to win him some points is just by talking about,
like, you interview King Vaughn and you asked him about FBG Duck.
That's bad.
You're a bad man.
It's just like, bro, shut the fuck up.
Nobody is falling for this bullshit argument.
This is such like a 2018 take.
It's like the,
ultimate like rap dad take and he right now he's plotting his response where he's going to be like
i'm really from this culture i really seen that shit bro i seen motherfuckers dying it's like bro
why you shut the fuck up just get over it like i'm gonna interview someone that this is their
opposite their music and i'm gonna ask them about like what did that line mean or like why did
you have something to say about this dude if they put it in the music i'm gonna talk about it
And see, that's why I agree with you in certain aspects when it comes to this media shit.
Because, you know, I've been dealing with a lot of shit, me being a street nigger trying to do this media shit.
And my thing is, if it's on the internet, we're going to talk about it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I didn't bring it to the internet.
I'm not breaking it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just commentating on it and speculating on it.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's it.
I don't have no real opinion on it.
Like, we have opinions, but our opinions don't matter.
Right.
You know, you can choose if it matters to you or not.
But it doesn't matter.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't care.
You know, I had a call, you know,
niggas be hitting me, you know, over all this shit.
You know, shout out to Daego.
You know, San Diego, they was...
Called Daego.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Daego.
You know, my cousin, he's Daego mob and shit,
you know what I'm saying.
But some shit got tricky with the whole shit,
with the boozy shit, with whack and all that shit.
And all that, you know, they, you know, they vouching.
They're saying that he ain't no rack.
You know what I'm saying?
They're saying that all that shit is false.
And who the guy that was on.
on Instagram Live when Boosy got caught up with the gun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Wack was saying that he was a rap.
Yeah, but it was a gang of guys out there.
A lot of people were speculating that that dude might have been an informant of some sort.
But see, they're not going for that.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm tapped in with some real hood niggas out there.
Shout out a hoodie from the hood.
Feel me?
The niggas brought niggas to the table, low CS.
You know what I'm saying?
These is respectable niggis from down there.
Feel me?
And they brought the nigga to the table, brought his paperwork.
You know what I'm saying?
and I just put it on the platform for them
and let them know, like, look, you know.
Because I'm just, look, I'm here to hear both sides of the story.
Don't think I'm siding with nobody.
I ain't got no side.
I'm a free agent out here.
I ain't, yeah.
And I'm looking for sponsors too.
I got to throw that out there.
Looking for sponsors, man.
Tap in.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I can't, I've been noticing
there's been a lot of pick and choosing.
A lot of pick and choosing select a politician.
Meaning what?
In this media game, man.
In what way?
You know what I mean, too.
Let's hear it.
know what I mean.
Be much,
much more specific.
Huh?
Nah,
I don't get it.
You over to go in?
Sure.
On me go in?
Selective policy?
All right, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
When you was on vacation,
uh-huh.
When Lushy Lush was popping his shit.
Uh-huh.
What big rock star do?
I ain't,
I ain't let him talk bad on you.
You loved it.
You were,
no,
because you were going in on him
about the Lupe thing.
Yeah,
yeah,
but,
no,
I think we're talking about the interview.
the shit, though, when he interviewed me.
Okay.
Remember, he interviewed me, asked me about some allegations and whatnot.
A lot of people are like, oh, you handled that a certain way.
You know what I'm saying?
I was receiving me and you was more in contact.
You was on vacation.
Right.
You were feeling me, man.
You was like, yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, that's cool.
Sticking up for me.
You know?
Yeah.
You know, but then you was on bullshit.
I like that.
But then you was on bullshit.
What?
You was on bullshit at him.
I was like, Adam.
Stop playing. Give me a date.
I was trying to push you to get some topics together.
Stop playing, Adam.
What kind of beef you guys to talk about?
When I was talking about Lush, nigger, it wasn't no.
Nah, see?
I never told you to go at Lush.
No, I know that.
Lush made a video saying that he thought that I sent you to attack him.
That was so funny.
I was on vacation laughing my ass off at the Reddit every night.
No, man, I ain't got no problem with Lush, man.
You need to leave Lus and long.
Just let Lus live.
I'm not talking about him.
Let Lus live.
We're in like a rare lull.
That's what I'm saying.
You're getting to the point.
I feel like you did your stunting.
You just told niggas get a million views.
You just did all your stuff.
I think it now is just like,
I ain't got to talk about nobody no more.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all keep talking about me,
but I ain't got to talk about nobody no more,
you know, because we got some other shit going on.
This whole recent art.
You got to be player about it.
Adam, you got to be player about it.
Rockstar, this is the thing is that that whole recent arc
was just because I went on bootleg kev
and they asked me
and he asked me do you think those guys
he said those guys are probably making more money now right
and I said no
no what?
Nah, AD getting in chili
but that was
I can't speak for everybody else
I'm gonna speak for AD
AD getting his chili and you know
AD being chilly for a minute
do I know?
No you don't know
I mean he was getting chilly for me
pause what
so you say AD ain't never had
like no other shit going on
I got no idea.
I have no idea what he got going on.
But you could tell he's surviving without.
Always.
This is the ultimate setup.
You're acting like I just said something crazy.
You're a cold peace.
I'm trying to figure this out, bro.
You're like, is he surviving?
And I say, yes, he is surviving.
He's alive.
And you're like, oh.
Because it's like, do you ever,
do you ever think y'all will ever get back to being friends?
Because if you did talking like this,
you're never going to be.
I already said we're on hiatus.
Yeah, but it's like
He'll come around
He'll come around
He was misled
Bad management
Causes a lot of people
People grief
Oh yeah
Yeah
Nah
Who you talking about pun?
Who?
Oh, okay
Oh, big pun
From the Bronx
I mean, let me know so, man
Dead in the middle
The Little Italy
Little it they know I didn't do dittalee
That's the only pun I know
Adam, you got to leave that shit alone, Adam.
What?
And, you know, I actually talked to a 80 big homie, hove.
You know, I don't know if he's seen his rank.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
He was coming on at you, Snoopy badass.
Jay Z?
All right, man, I'm doing.
Well, there's another hove.
Oh, I'm done.
Shout out of the Copter Crips dog.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not about to entertain this.
You know what I'm saying?
But let's talk about poopy badass.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't like them?
Man, come on, man.
Come on, man.
Now, there's a name I recognize.
Come on, man.
Snoopy.
Bro, you gotta start, bro, do your homework, man.
Really do your homework before you start interviewing these niggas, bro.
I did.
For real.
Not, did not.
What should I have asked him, though?
The whole wacko shit, him acting like he didn't know who wacko was.
And the OG nigga was like, oh, yeah, he good.
He's good.
He knows who wacko is, nigga.
Wacko got his ass ran, nigga, for them fades.
Really?
Yeah.
You know who wacko is?
He tried to act like he ain't know what he is.
So they were running game on me in the interview.
He was acting.
Come on, man.
All that king of Compton.
Come on, I know you don't believe that.
I don't know for one minute you don't believe that.
I don't know.
Who is the king?
Kendrick.
I would say Kendrick.
Okay.
Kendrick, that's safe to say.
I think people.
Snoopy badass.
If he was here right now, would say, well, Kendra game.
No, listen.
In Compton.
He is in hip-hop conversation,
West Coast hip-hip-hop.
Any hip-hop conversation.
He is not mentioned.
How dare you?
And that's the,
truth that's the fact so for a nigga to get up on here cap and trying to chase this cloud trying to
chase nigger 38 39 chasing i don't know what he's chasing but all that shit was capping on there
bro i i just can't agree with that shit that niggas in Arizona staying in surprise Arizona when he was out
there trying to ride my wave because i had shit rocking and rolling nigga begging me to bring a eighth
a nigga live an hour away i'm like bro listen i'm cool bro i ain't even i ain't even on that top of time
you know what i'm saying i'm running to him in the club me with my niggum from six-o
You know what I'm saying?
He in there with Dickies, Chucks on.
You know what I'm saying?
We in V-Live.
Like, this nigga looking like something out of colors.
You know what I'm saying?
What the fuck?
This nigga crazy, bro.
I can't believe that, bro.
Y'all got to, and just all the cappings, just all the capping got to stop, bro.
And that's what I'm saying, like, really do your homework.
Because some niggas's like, it's going to get niggas hurt, bro, out here in these streets really capping.
You know what I'm saying?
Content going to turn real.
You know what I'm saying?
Because of no jumper interview.
You never know, you know what I'm saying?
Wh-bram-Wam-W-W-T.
And you all for that, though.
Rockstar just hit us with a rant.
You love that, though.
That's that good content.
Yeah, man. Rockstar rants.
I like Snoopy.
I like them.
Yeah, you want to give him a job, huh?
The job, I don't know about that.
So you think he pressed Big Baby or what?
Because that's what the streets want to know.
The streets want to know that is Adam 22 because we was watching this the other day.
Hey, the homie, a matter of favor, we watching this yesterday, huh?
Nigger, the homie pointed out, we slowed it down.
You said that he turned it down.
that brick baby turned it down let's talk about it not that he turned it down but he didn't create a big
fight or whatever he could have done he like he said one of the he asked me what was acceptable
i said just don't hit anyone so they avoided that which i think it's probably good i don't know
street saying adam 22 said brick baby turned it down i don't know what that means see now that shit
starting now that shit starting now you really want me to see but now
I'm not even going to get on that.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm saying.
That's my nigga,
I know what's having it.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like realizing as you say that, though,
that what I said in that conversation
probably did come off too much like that.
And I'm like, oh, wow.
Exactly.
That is kind of awkward.
Listen, we watch all this shit.
My nigga right here, he watched everything.
It's my nigga KKK.
You know what I'm saying?
He helped me run hip hop trince clubhouse.
Okay.
He's my second moderator.
He's top moderator.
He'd be running shit and that motherfucker going crazy.
I'm the top moderator.
He'd be doing a podcast with Flacco too.
Oh, where?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Flacco, you know.
He'd be click-backed my nigga.
L.A. Crip.
No, no.
He could be clipped back my nigga.
Who do you think's going to win in this battle, DJU, or Big Folks?
Oh, I'm on Big Fox side, though.
Yeah.
You know, Big Fox.
He doesn't need any help.
He's a much larger man.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Big Fox ain't got to fight nobody, man.
We fuck with Big Fox right here.
But do you believe the narrative that big folks lured him into a Flaco interview
under the pretense?
that it was going to be a no-jump ring to do?
We talked about it on the big folks.
I'll send you the clip.
All right, because I got to hear his rebuttal to that.
Yeah, he went crazy.
I mean, you know, folks don't hold no punches.
He don't give a fuck.
I know he's not stoked.
You know, they call him folks to Chicago Wag 100.
Really?
Yeah, no, he goes crazy on the Internet.
There's big shoes to Phil.
I don't think he's too out there.
Wack respect him.
Yeah.
Wack respect the shit out of folks.
Folks be talking that shit.
You got two bodies.
You got her that guy.
He killed two Mexicans, he said.
Huh?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
He gladly speaks about bodies.
He don't give a fuck.
I'm like, hey, man, that's big folks.
You feel me?
I asked him if he was still seeing shadows in his room.
He said, nah.
Man, listen, folks still out here young, flying everywhere.
Yeah.
Big Airbnb mansions, you know what I'm saying?
When they touch down.
Is he managing you?
You feel me?
No, no, he ain't managing me.
You got to make you get a Kevobody.
We definitely are.
Hey.
You down?
Nah, nah.
What if big folks can get a sponsor?
You don't want a Kevobody?
Nah.
Nah. Shout out with Kevo, though.
Hey, I ain't a lot. Kevold to be working out, though.
Right.
So that's one thing about it.
Like, niggie can't just go get that and not, you know, Kevo in the gym.
I made him and his assistant.
We actually interviewed him in Arizona the other day.
Well, that's why it's so crazy because he's like, he's got muscles,
but he didn't, like, lose that much body fat.
He just had it sucked out of his fucking stomach.
So now he's still got, like, fat, like, in his arms and in his legs and shit.
But his waist is super tight from the fucking lipo.
So it's like he just looks crazy
His muscles look huge
And his waist looks like really small
And defined
Pause
But I've always been a big bodybuilding fan
So you have
Yeah
Never really like
Went crazy with it myself
But I've always been interested in it
No, too gay
So
Are you are you
Are you deble and dabble?
No
No
You sure?
You positive?
Hell no
Okay
Biginas only
Okay
Okay, talk that shit, Adam.
See, that's what I'm saying.
People want to know.
People think you're really gay.
What?
Man, if I was gay, there would be some evidence of it.
If I was gay, it would probably be bigger than the BBC story lot.
I don't know.
It's not like it would be a secret.
People think you was there recording.
Was you there recording?
No.
I was at home playing poker.
You stand on that?
Yes.
On the dead homies.
You ain't got no dead homies.
I guess you do.
I got way too many dead homies.
Oh, yeah?
Duh.
Okay.
So you gang, gang.
Would you do a song with 6'9 for a million bucks if Wax sets it up?
You're a cold piece, boy.
See, but see, this is a good question, right?
Because a lot of people are saying that they wouldn't when they would.
I think you should take it.
You could talk your way out of it after.
I mean, listen.
You never know until you were in that position.
That's all I can say.
You know, it depends on whatever you position.
position you in.
Let's say if you're already a millionaire already up.
Right.
Do you still lower your standards,
your morals for that, you know?
A million bucks.
I'm just saying, what's a million bucks to a millionaire?
A multi-millionaire, though.
You'd be surprised.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, just having a million dollars
does not mean that I'm going to stop hustling
or stop wanting more.
Once you get a million bucks,
a million dollars no longer seems like a big deal.
But that's what I'm telling you.
you. That's what I'm saying.
Typically. A million dollars is nothing to a million there, right?
You could, like, get in a car accident and lose a million bucks.
So why would I sell my soul for that?
Sure.
It's really nothing.
What's up with you and Troy Ave?
Man, Troy, yeah, that's funny.
Did he sleep with your baby mama?
Nah, that thing ain't sleep with my baby mama, man.
Does he say he did?
Yeah, man, that's it, man.
Tell me the Troy Ave's story.
Troy Ave, booked him for a meet and greet.
one of the first Super Bowl was probably like 20 I don't know when is this like 20 13
2014 I don't know it was there's some shit going on we did a meeting greet $500 shout out to
hovane you know what I'm saying hovain was his manager hovane rest in peace right now right big fat guy
you know what I'm saying that was my guy how many people showed up to a troy of $500
million nobody I'm gonna keep it real sorry I'm gonna keep it real nobody
Nobody?
Nobody.
$500 is a lot of money.
I wouldn't have the nerve to do a $500.
No, it was low.
It was low for me at the time he had two songs on the radio.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So this is at the time when you got two songs on the radio in Arizona.
So I'm like, okay, cool.
$500 that's straight.
You know what I'm saying?
Running.
Boom.
Right.
You know, he pulled up, but he stayed for a little bit longer.
Like I said, we got to, it's always been cool.
Like, even then, after then, when he came back to Arizona,
we can bump into each other.
Boom.
I'm in the studio.
I'm trying to get him versus.
You know what I'm saying?
Regular like that, shit like that, whatever.
Shit shit like that, bro.
It don't be nothing.
When it came to trying to do music, he was acting out of salon.
You know what I'm saying?
When it came to do verses, he was trying to overcharge me.
And I'll probably have a thousand.
Like, hey, bro, I'm going to give this stack.
Oh, man, I'm going to do a $1,500,000.
Type of shit like that.
And I'm like, hey, man, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm chilling.
Feel me?
Because I'm really helping you, trying to help you get other shit.
You know, I'm selling verses.
You know, I'm always that type of nigger when I'm around.
I got the tree.
you know what I'm saying I'm in the mix
so anyway aside from that
just I don't know
the whole Vegas shit
my baby mama after we broke up
she went out to Vegas
with her home girls all that
and they ran into each other
she know I just did a mean greed with this man
and all that you feel me so
it's regular talk she ain't never went upstairs
never did nothing there at the table
you know he offering to buy her and her home girls some drinks
some just regular shit that's what it is
I mean to me personally
me and her not together and even if we was that's what females do they go out to
bars clubs and set of wood niggas gonna try to buy drinks do all that that's what they do
so for him to assinuate that all that that shit was cap nigger my baby mama came on clubhouse
nigga and went and whack room nigga and told them niggas like nigga fuck like nigga I didn't
do all that so I mean all that shit documented you know what I'm saying I don't really like
because the shit really bullshit and troy av on my mama niggie you don't want to
see me with these hands, nigga, on everything,
nigger, and I'd tow whack that too,
nigger, and niggas don't want to talk about that,
though, you know what I'm saying? So,
so you can say whatever you want to say, I ain't offended
by it. I'm too much of a player, if you really
know me, too much of a player, they even care.
But the fact that you're trying to play
on my character, like I'm a sucker,
on my mama, nigga, you really get these hands,
though, you know what I'm saying? And if you don't want to
do that, then shut up, nigga, on everything,
nigga, because we really run shit around
here, nigga, I don't know about all that fuck shit
nigg's doing out there in New York,
letting niggas rat out there.
shit, nigga. We exterminate shit out here,
nigga. Just know that, nigga.
So stop playing, but I ain't out here making threats
or doing none of that, but, nigga, if you want to see
me from the hands, you can see me from the hands.
Nig, on anything. Because all that
internet game shit, you know what I'm saying? Niggas ain't playing. That's what I'm saying,
where people get this content shit fucked up.
You know what I'm saying? Just, you nigga see me on YouTube
and all that? Cause on crick. Just know,
we really like that. You know what I'm saying? I'll really be turning it down
on some cool shit, humbling myself
nice with these interviews, but
on me, we ain't gonna condone no sucker shit.
Nigger, really a rat.
Nigger, got on the stand, tow.
Whatever business, him and whack,
that's between him and whack.
But on my mama, Wack, I ain't gonna be able to say you from everything.
You know what I'm saying?
So just know that, nigga.
Keep on playing.
Nogh, I ain't playing with nid, nigga.
So you're saying you want to see him at baby snaps his alley.
No, not in baby snaps.
You can see me in Adams, nigger.
Oh, Adams.
You know what I'm saying?
We can come where he at.
Because he's somewhere around here, Hollywood, Vegas.
He stays out of here.
I didn't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You probably got some kid here around on 24-7.
Listen, like I said, I'll catch a fair frame with you, honey.
I ain't worried about all that.
I'll give you the head up.
Don't make it nothing.
There ain't got to be.
Straight up.
Damn.
Troy Al.
And that's just what it is because the nigger want to play, get on clubhouse and cap.
Because the nigger told the shit.
So this was really happened.
We was cool after all that shit.
When the shit went down when he told and all that,
I was trying to give him a platform on clubhouse.
I told him, come on.
Come on.
We texting.
He's telling me he's trying to sell the interview.
They're bidding the interview for $180,000.
I got the text message.
He bidding the interview for $180,000.
I'm like, exactly.
Exactly.
That's my whole thing.
I'm like, to who?
$180,000 for this nitty interview?
Who the fuck doing that?
So he going there, captain, like,
he going on there, captain basically saying, like,
oh, yeah, that nigga broke.
That's why I told him $180,000.
I knew he wouldn't have it.
But that's not the fact.
The facts is, nigga, nobody wanted to do an interview with you in New York.
You had to run west, get up on the whack so whack could press the line for you,
nigga, to get up on bootleg cave, to get up on no jumper.
Let's keep it real.
You admit it.
You told him, like, whack hit me, man, for this interview.
I mean, I would have done it.
What the fuck do I care?
Man, stop playing.
Academics did it, too.
I'm understanding that.
But did anybody in New York do it?
Well, not the mainstream interviews.
He probably would have, like, to get like a breakfast club.
niggas I ain't fucking with him in New York.
He could have been on Brothers Club.
Why ain't go?
Yeah, but it's because they're all tax dick riders,
which I fuck with tax too,
but that's not going to-
But that's not going to stop me from doing a fucking
interview with somebody that he has a problem with,
even though I fuck with tax.
That ain't my problem.
I'll still have a conversation with him.
I ain't worried about the niggas, though.
But I'll just be tripping off this content shit, bro,
how niggas like versus real life.
You feel me?
Like, everything before content and talk,
but, like, you know, it's like what?
Like, I feel like whack a different person in person
versus Clubhouse.
He's still pretty crazy in real life.
No, he's crazy, but he's easier, more approachable and talkable.
A lot of times when I hear his Clubhouse clips,
it is very wrestler.
He's going crazy.
But on there, strategic, fucking, it's a tool.
See, Clubhouse is really a tool for niggas like us, street niggas, right?
And we transformed into the media, right?
Right now I can narrow, right?
anything. I can highlight
anything I want to. We're going to talk about it.
I just send it through right now. Boom. Put the title up.
Boom. Got it crack. I create the conversation.
I get the conversation going. I can bring people in there that people
want to talk to that probably could never talk to on their own.
I feel like Clubhouse is going to be limited
because it's Clubhouse. I would rather be a YouTube streamer or a Twitch
streamer or some shit if I was going to do that.
Think about academics when he's on his stream.
He got his Discord or whatever. So he can
can just like tag different people in
and just talk to them on it or whatever.
To me, like, that makes more sense
than like going on Clubhouse all the time.
I don't know.
But no, that's what I'm saying.
You just got to monetize the rooms.
You got to know what to do.
You know what I'm saying?
How much money can get sponsors?
You can get sponsors too.
Like who?
We could push it in a link.
You know, the other day I saw Boxer sponsored by Winchels.
The fucking bagel spot?
Yeah, anybody.
I just saw, we were just on,
yeah, Raising Crane.
Raising Cain's sponsors.
Yes.
sponsors Theo Vaughn's podcast.
That's big money. That's big money right there.
That pisses me off because that's something that I really fuck with is Raising Keynes.
I really like their food a lot. I'd love to be sponsored by them.
Oh yeah, you like chicken tenders and fries.
Yeah.
That's your favorite food?
Well, I'm more, I love Papa's the most.
For real?
Yeah.
Don't, man, you got to stop eating that shit.
Ugh, it's terrible. I know. I'm trying to get in shape.
I love it too.
I love it too much.
I'm trying to get in shape.
That shit will kill you.
Leave Popeyes behind.
That shit of king.
And you know they cloning people off the chicken.
Yeah?
You seen the movie?
I'm down with that.
The Jamie Fox movie.
Clown me.
Oh, yeah?
Sure.
It might be another you like somewhere else on the other side of the world.
I want to clone myself and then make them wear a suit and have him do security for me.
And he can do MMA and shit.
Would you do your life different?
Would you do your life different?
If I could?
Yeah.
Well, some things, sure.
What would you do different?
I don't know.
Did you ever expect?
to be this big.
Probably wouldn't have fuck that bitch
with AIDS raw.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
I don't know whether to believe you or not
because I don't know if you're really into that shit.
Hell know, I get tested every two weeks.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Sucks.
But I seen something where you say you caught a gang of shit too, though.
I got burned a few times too.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
But after fucking your wife?
During.
Mostly during.
Mostly.
Oh, fucking another bitch.
Most of the times that I got burned.
She got burnt right alongside me.
So how do you get burnt if a bitch test is good?
Positive, I mean.
Because think about it, the girl could have gone to the bar the night before and fuck some random dude.
When does the test?
It's not a night before.
It's like every two weeks.
So it's like I've known girls.
I remember fucking introducing different porn star girls that I knew to rappers.
They fucked the rapper.
And then the next day they're shooting porn with professional porn dudes.
And exposing them to potential life-threatening.
illnesses like chlamydia.
Yeah.
No, you can get rid of that, right?
It's nothing.
Stick a needle in your ass.
Boom, you're good.
But it sucks because you've got to wait like a week before you can shoot.
Yeah.
It's the fucks your whole game up.
See, that's why we're so different, right?
Because it's like you can catch STDs with your wife and that's cool.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, no black motherfuckers can do that like and explain that to.
Oh, they can.
No, it's not going to happen.
Damn near all the fucking porn stars that I know.
are black. Not all, but a large
percentage. Are they in relationships?
Some of them, probably. Some of them
are probably too horny. I have no real black girl.
Some
sort of black woman. I see you want Asian
dog. You like that?
You don't know what to do with that.
I've been knowing it since back in the day.
Yeah, but have you had some ghetto pussy?
Bro, long live on. The Asian
doll, I need that.
See, but that's, see, long live on. That's not
honoring his name by fucking his girl.
I think he would understand. Speaking of a fucking girl.
He would understand.
Won't you fuck to Nia?
He was a savage.
Because I hear she in your DMs, you know what I'm saying?
She wants to see with that light.
You know what I'm saying?
Go ahead and do that for the culture one time.
Just slutter out.
I don't know, man.
Fuck it.
Slutter out.
Cudder out.
Cramer going to be mad, though.
You know you're going to catch a family.
You got to understand, though.
I have to explain to my girl why this is a good idea.
Be like,
picture me trying to tell my girl,
listen.
Damn.
She's Snoopy bad ass.
is baby mama.
And she's recently been dating Crip Mac.
She's got a soft white underbelly interview
where she talks about being a prostitute.
Let's fuck her on camera.
My girl's gonna be like,
how many followers are you?
I'm gonna be like 4,000 or some shit.
Now she's up there.
Whatever it is.
Whatever it is,
it's not gonna move my girl.
But you gotta understand,
I don't even tell my girl
about most of the shit
that goes on on this podcast and shit.
She doesn't have any idea.
So let's say,
Who are you interviewing tomorrow?
I'll say three rappers that you'll never understand if I told you other names?
She's like, okay, no, my mind.
No offense to Sinea.
I just don't think I could sell the misses on it.
Damn.
And it feels kind of grimy to, like, do that as a Snoopy.
I don't know.
That's my boy.
She got a bad track record with niggas.
Her?
Yes.
It's terrible.
Terrible.
If you fuck both Krip Mac and Snoopy badass, that's pretty legendary.
And one of her other baby daddy is supposed to be a snitch.
We ain't gonna talk about that, though.
That's some other shit.
Interesting.
All right, I got a piss.
You know you know.
I got to go.
Rockstar 2800.
Well, fuck you, too.
Well, I'm not going to do a fucking four-hour clubhouse session with you.
Sorry.
This motherfucker is used to going long.
Hey, pause.
Who likes extending that shit.
Pause.
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