No Jumper - Rooga on FYB J Mane, Lena's BBC, Kanye's Next Album & More

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and I'm back with one of my favorite, reoccurring guests on this platform, a man whose name rings bells from city to city, block to block. I don't know what made me feel like I had to do this fire Bruce Buffer-ass intro, but I'm kind of feeling it. Maybe I should do this for everybody. Sound like a movie or some shit. Ruga!

What's that word? Mr. Ruga, Ruga. He is shoot-a-shooter. Ain't no shooter. You hang with the girls. You double-dutch and hula-hooper. That's a hell-rail lyric. That's the line to you?

Yeah, but I mean... That's a hula-hooper. I mean, it's a hell-reel lyric from like 20 years ago. I can't really remember exactly how it went. Okay. Yeah. But, you know, something. Kick it off early, huh?

How are you doing? I'm good, man. I'm straight. I ate. You did? Yeah, man, I just ate. What'd you eat? Wendy's is.

good. I don't know where the Wendy's is around here, though. I might have to get on the Wendy's program. I ain't want it, though. We got to get this mic a little bit more in front of your mouth, pause. There we go. Yeah, pause, man. Um, but, listen, y'all, I got the memory in my head of Ruga just eating like 500 milligrams of weed candy last time we were on this podcast. That was 500? I think you ate four, five candies at least. That was a little more, I think. It might have been more. You might have been more. You might have more. I was high as hell. A hundred milligrams per candy. I used to eat those things

all the time. I don't know how I got away with it. That was crazy. That time, I don't remember how I got home that day. You were a ball of mush by the the time you left here. Yeah. It was pretty cool. I thought it was dope. I like seeing somebody push the limits on the pod.

You know how you'd be driving. Yes. And you just forget that you're driving. You ever did that? You know what I'm too? You do that little jump Like, shit. How the fuck was I even? Well, you ever take a full-on nap while you're driving? Yeah, I did.

I've been there, too. One time I was off the drink when I was doing that drink tweaking with it. I did some of that green shit. Man, I had to drive a 40-minute ride. When I tell you, I was so fucking tired I couldn't stay woke. I pulled the car over on the side of the Eway. Just went to sleep. Damn.

I went to sleep for like, um, I woke up like two hours. And nobody bothered you or anything? No. That's what you need sometimes. That was some good rest too. Yeah, the best kind of rest. It's out of the Eway rest. The best rest is taking a Zan and sleeping for like 12 hours.

A Zan? I took a Zan one time. One time. One time. I'm not encouraging it, and the truth is probably that's not the best kind of sleep. But if you're the type of person who's kind of like high stress, high strung, and you have a hard time chilling out, but Zan will have you

Yeah Zana have another telling you what you did Yeah And you don't even remember Yeah I've been there See that's why I can't do it no more Yeah

I like to remember what I did Horrible I did Yeah No if you if you If you make that part of your life You're pretty much asking to end up Dead or in jail at some point Yeah

Y'all snapping man I got the 50 Okay You like that? We got a lot of people ask it where you can get it. It will be nojumbra.com, but I don't know if it's available. Yeah, we got to start cranking them out. Pause.

We still go to jail for this type of... For the paraphernalia, the fake version. Just being black, you go to jail. Lil T.J. just got caught up for a toy gun. He did? Yeah, they arrested him, and then they proved it was a toy gun, but it, like, didn't matter. Like, his probation or whatever the hell he's on, his parole, like, basically, even the toy gun. I guess was too much.

I seen some shit with him argue with the police or something that shit. Yeah, they must be on his ass. Because he got shot in Jersey almost killed and then they caught him

with like at least two guns since then and then they caught him another time for a toy gun. What you're doing with a toy gun? When you already got all those problems? It was a toy gun? I believe so, yeah.

Was it like a prank or just playing or what? I don't know if he was trying to flex for a music video or something. It might have been a proper something for video or something. New York City. anything that looks like a gun is a bad idea. Nah, but you know what weed is like,

if you're up up edibles and then you smoke the blunt, it's like the effect that happens when you ever been like beer drunk and then you take a shot? Or you've been drinking liquor. No, I don't drink beer. Yeah. But if you do, it's like that. It's like somehow consuming it in the different form

will just amplify your f***piness so much. You go with that with that shit again. What? with the questions, with the math questions and shit. Why am I always getting hit with this? It's about the amplify. You don't know where the amplify? You don't know the word amplify?

Yeah, I know where amplify is. Amplify's pretty easy. I had somebody in here upset about me for saying demeaning the other day. Amplify. Sound like some shit with a car, some speakers or something. What, amplifier is like if you have ever performed to a show, I think, well, no, that's what they use for a guitar. You probably don't have a guitar at your shows. see we be getting lost fast boy it's happening fast

yeah like how do we end up here it's happening faster than last time I got a whole list of weird questions and you're just like taking me out the pocket but just sending me in all different directions now let's go but you know that's that's the new wave is especially with the drill rappers

they'll do an interview and then they'll have all kinds of nifty little things that they say to sort of like not have to answer the questions like Lil Reese saying oh I got to do some research on that he did like a whole interview where he said about a hundred times like oh I got to do some research on that which is pretty funny like he gets the interview but then he just basically doesn't answer any of the questions

but just say it he needs to do research I guess he got to do some research or maybe do some homework it's another option sometimes you got to do research to do your homework it's different when you do your homework and your research I guess it do All of a sudden, you're just prepared for the interview. What's life like for Ruger these days?

What you've been up to? I better chill at best. I better take care of my son, make a show, you know, you're in school doing this thing. He just graduated. Just proud of him. And taking care of my family, you know, spending more time with my family than anything. I've been working on my album, too.

Mm. And I really just been living life, you know, traveling, seeing different shit. Where you traveled? I've been to a lot of places. Like, I can't say and name all the places, but. In America? I ain't been out of the country yet. Okay.

When I'm going to go out of the country. My boy is trying to go out the country and work on that album and shit, man. Ooh. Do you think that, like, France would motivate you with the album? Japan. Japan. that's why I'm going to Japan work on the album

you think you need to be as far away as possible from all the bullshit yeah sometimes you do sometimes you just need to be in a room by yourself sometimes but I don't know or why I say Japan is just totally different from what the fuck I'm used to you know what I'm saying

It's kind of isolating you're out there you can't talk to anybody like I was just in Europe for a month that's one thing though because like everywhere I went pretty much everybody you encounter speaks English because they're all people who work in hospitality and tourism and shit. But when I went to Japan, I don't think I'll talk to anybody besides my girl for the whole, I've been there a couple of times,

but the last time I was there the whole week. I don't think I talked to anybody besides her the whole time. So where you was, I sent you on the internet, you were somewhere. Where you was at? What I was at? We went to Italy, France, and Spain on our honeymoon for a month. Yeah, I was traveling and traveling. Yeah.

Speaking of... Are you going to do it? I ain't this early. These are the rules of the podcast as I have to explain myself to every single person. No, yeah, I ain't gonna save it. At some point, I might even have to

lay down the ground rules of like, hey, because I never had that. You go do an interview and people are like, is there anything you don't want to talk about? I'm always like, no, I can talk about whatever. Yeah, but I might have to do that on my own interviews. Only rule, don't ask me about redacted. Now, I don't mind.

It's just at a certain point. It might look. kind of crazy if I'd have to talk about on every podcast. I think you might do. Shit. You think I'm tripping that hard? No, you ain't tripping, but you're tripping.

You good, but I ain't gonna lie. My main, I could talk about it. Go crazy. I don't want to be, you know what I'm saying, but I've seen it, you know what I'm saying? My thing is, like, you let another, you know what I'm saying, man. You see what I'm saying? Enter

the garage. So it's like... For work. Video content. So content. I get it though. You know what I'm saying? For content.

We're in the business now. But it's the thing though. What if he laid it down better and a motherfucker just like what they like? Well, I mean, even if he did lay it down better, that just means that I personally need to step my game up. Yeah.

So that I mean, can you know compete and then what if it's just feel different once you get in it no that's fine it's been a week all right so it may have been re-apolstered I'm gonna be honest though it was tight as fuck before it could have used a little scratening but my thing about it is like this is a crazy question I got like how do it like not to be so deep in it but pause so say yeah power that's what you said but um like say of your daughter you know what i'm saying she get older why does it always have to come back to the kids because it do man the kids matter you know what i'm saying but everybody can accept

that me and my girl in our own personal life we can do whatever we want that's fine so then people always have to pivot out of it and be like well what is your kid gonna think one day but you that you can't even lie that's something that probably go across your mind too but i i don't think this conversation is harder to have than the conversation about like why me and my girl were doing it on the internet with other women in the first place. Okay, say if it was to come down to it and, your daughter do get older and see it. It was like, and it's like she might have to go to school

and deal with people bashing about it or anything. You know what I'm saying? It then it's like what you did kind of trickled on to her life. You know what I'm saying? But it's life, though. I get it. You know what I'm saying? I get it, bro.

It's like, we only human shit. Motherfuckers do that. You got your own purpose of what you do, not judging you and none. Right. Because I've listened to other podcasters talk about like dealing with the fact that they don't like that they do podcasts

where they talk about all kinds of nasty shit and like that's just talking, making extreme explicit jokes and stuff and they don't like the fact that their kids might one day know about them making these nasty jokes on the podcast and telling these crazy ass stories or whatever. Mine's like that, but it's all on camera.

Now, that's, being said, I don't give a fuck personally because I just feel like, listen, being my kid in the first place, if it wasn't for this stuff, it would already be tough because, yes, you are going to be going to be being treated like a fucking hero by people, if people are going to take pictures, whatever, that's already weird enough for a kid. But then for them to at some point realize, like, oh, also your parents have been naked fucking each other on the internet, and also people hate them for it. People are like really fucking hate your parents for having done this stuff. Will it be complicated? Sure. But, you know, Kim Kay's kids are doing all right, right?

Yeah. And also, my kids are not going to school in South Central. She's going to the best private schools in the country, so. I get it though, man. Like, at the end of the day, it's a profession. That's awesome. They wouldn't have made it a profession if it wasn't. It is legal for a reason. The world is getting more open-minded. I'm not saying it's going to be the easiest thing in the world, but also I'm not going to turn down millions of dollars right now doing something that I want to do, that I'm having fun doing, just because of the fact that maybe one day my kid is going to have to deal with the ramifications of who her parents are, you know? It is what your kids are going to have to deal with people saying, like, well, I listen to this song, and your dad said he had six bodies, and he shot so-and-so in the head. It's kind of similar. It'll be a little weird.

It's not as weird. It's different. Because you could say, I was just fucking around. I was just saying shit. But you could actually say it's entertainment. Exactly. I can't say that. It's kind of just like a movie.

I mean, I can say it was acting. It's entertainment. Like we did this for that purpose. It's kind of just like a movie when they got a sex scene or something. It is basically, yeah. I mean, I enjoyed it. I was there for a reason.

Enough for that. Leave it alone, man. We're going to leave it set, man. One day, I'm going to have talked about it so much that I won't ever have to talk about it anymore. One day. Coming soon. soon. Okay, so you're

posting in what, Vegas? Hmm? You're in Vegas? No, I'm in Cali. Right now. I'm in Cali. Where you stay normally? Well, I stay. You don't stay in California, right? Where you stay? Around here. Around here.

Around here. This is good questions right there. Where do you stay? What's your... I'm trying to get the basics. I'm trying to get the basics out of the way, right? Listen. Your man's yellow, stays in Vegas. I was wondering if you were staying in Vegas, too. I don't know where he stay?

I mean, he'd pretty open about it, don't you think? I don't know. Is he? I don't know. I love that. You've got this fucking weird-ass demeanor for this podcast, though. This is getting me interesting. You're not even, at least last time you could have blamed it on the weed edibles.

What? Crip Mac out there. You ever met Crip-Mack? No, I ain't never met him. What do you think of him? He, um, seemed cool. You know, I'd be seeing him on the podcast. Podcasts and shit.

Yeah. He seemed real blunt, a blunt person. He's cool, though, shit. He seemed like a street nigger. He's certainly a blunt person. That's a fact. Okay. But when you decided that you wanted to come through,

what was the stuff at the forefront of your brain that you wanted to talk about today? I just wanted to chill, you know what I'm saying? I fuck with you as a friend. You're my friend, man. We're chilling. That's true. We are great friends.

I stopped smoking. You stop smoking? You stop smoking? Pretty much. For real? I'm not going to lie. I smoked a spliff the other day, though. See what I'm saying?

Yeah, you be sneaking. Smuck back up in there, yeah. I got a weed pen. So if I ever need to get a little high to go to bed, just rely on the weed pen. So really, you didn't stop? The whole time I was on that vacation for a month, I had the weed pen. And that was it. And then I got back.

And I've been good, but then Saturday night, I was just like, you know what? Let me fuck with a spliff. From the sounds of it. But I just calculated, when did you stop? Well, I don't count the weed pen. Let me be real with you. Because I actually, one thing I've realized through all this... They get too.

Sort of, sometimes. Depends how you hit it. It's weed. You just put... Let's say it again. What is called? The what? The weed pen.

Yeah. I just, okay, I don't count it because for me, one thing I've realized is that the tobacco addiction was more of a thing than the weed addiction. in the sense that I think that the wheat, the tobacco and how that made me kind of slumped and sort of, I don't know,

I feel like the tobacco was, if anything, like a little bit more powerful than the weed and that that is really the thing that I'm happy to have mostly eliminated. I really felt I have a hair in my mouth. Stop eating that ass, man.

Yeah, you're a little whole brown. My booty hole brown. I don't think my girl has hair on her ass. I'm still trying to get it out Maybe it's a tiny little minuscule skinny hair So now I'm realizing This is the kind of interview that you're going to make me do Because you

You right before I sat down You're like, don't ask me about any street shit I ain't say street shit And now you're high as hell Relevant shit like that's just not just Yeah but the thing you claim that you do We're good though you know we ain't I'm not saying that you're being a fucking dictator here or anything

But the thing that you brought up Was like somebody a past affiliate of yours who sort of ran his mouth about you in a recent interview you don't want to clap back at him clap back like what you mean verbally lap back my definition of clap back is totally different from yours verbally clap back not what is what don't get me um I mean if he had his say his say about you don't you want to have your say about him or at least like correct the record my mama always taught me the best reaction is no reaction that doesn't seem like it's really been much of a thing

in the drill community a lot of reactions that's the drill you know but as my as a as a as my own man you know what I'm saying I don't be paying attention to that shit bro I got so much shit going on well let's just see what happens if if I just say what I'm referring to

billionaire black did a DJ you interview and he kind of shaded you and basically he actually said at one point that you never did anything for him or your family and then he said that he saw you in Vegas but he kept it pushing.

He didn't try to engage. He said I never did enough for who, my family? For him or your family? First of all, I don't even really like, he don't even know me.

So you weren't super tight back in the day or anything? You don't, like on some 100 shit like being that black was cool, you know what I'm saying? but um it was always like a when i met up with him it was always like a mutual thing i was i was with another person right so you know i'm saying it was never like car billion there that's luffin a link with billion you know what i'm saying it was never like that type of relationship but um i don't pay attention to that shit what people say bro like especially saying something like that i know you don't know what you're talking about so it's like it's no no reason for me to

respond to that type of shit like take care of my family did you already know that he had an issue with you prior to this interview clip coming out what like a issue yeah yeah some some little goofy shit went on but that shit light bro okay because he uh he mentioned like seeing you in Vegas was yellow the intermediary for seeing each other yeah yellow uh was there yeah yellow uh was there. Yellow to what, I link with yellow. Like I say,

I link with yellow and he was with me. You know, you feel me? Okay. But he was with like a couple of his homies. Shit.

It wasn't nothing. We ate food. And we went on about our day. You didn't really talked to about it? No, it wasn't like

nothing really to talk about. Like, everything was said. It was said. You know, already on the internet. We had our talk on the internet on live

publicly. So everybody kind of know what happened with that. Right. Yeah. So, uh, to you it's nothing.

It ain't nothing to me, bro. Is it just because this situation is small, or is it because you're just out of place in your life where you're not really trying to be doing all this back and forth with people? It's not that it's kind of like, like, yeah, it's like, come on, bro. I ain't thinking about that shit, bro. I got investments and shit, I got to make sure I stay on and make sure my money flowing.

If that shit ain't getting me no check, I ain't going to be putting no, energy into that shit like that, bro. It is wild, though, if you think, you know, rewind the clock, like 10, 12 years, there was, like, this time period where all these dudes from Chicago just come out and start making waves off of basically making music, dissing each other.

And now, obviously, there is, like, a new generation of kids coming out doing the same thing. A lot of people from back in the day doing the same thing. But then you also have a lot of people who basically either didn't make it in music or their music career is kind of small, but they're kind of trying to build the name off having a YouTube channel or, you know, doing interviews or whatever, dissing people and sort of just stirring shit up, in some cases even talking about who killed who, stuff that isn't even public, et cetera.

How do you feel about that development? Honestly, it been like this. Yeah. It's been like this for years, bro. Like, this shit ain't nothing new. It's just like. like honestly it was worse or back then

this shit like it's the same shit to me like what I'm seeing that's a hundred ain't nothing you still watch all this shit you still invested in it I watch I watch music I always watch Chicago music

I'm big on Chicago music honestly I barely even listen to the big industry rappers and shit like that I listen to some of them but I'd be listening to Chicago music who want to come up just listen I like to see that shit

see who coming with that heat from the rack. You mostly interested in the street stuff, though? Are you listening to everything? No, I listen to everything. I listen to R&B. I like old school music. Shit, I like rap, drill, reggae. I like all music.

Are there people popping out of Chicago making non-drill music? Honestly, I'm just not really catching. Everybody from Chicago, like, well, majority of the people from Chicago, they rapping, you feel doing the drill thing. I haven't really seen no like different type of super styles, you know what I'm saying?

That just be like, damn, you know, that's no, I just, matter of fact, I just posted this guy the other day, I forgot his name. He'd be on that type of time. What, just more artistic with it? Yeah, yeah, he's like an artist. He'd be on some singing type shit. That shit hard, though. There's like a long history of so many unique artists

coming out of Chicago, but It's been a while since we really seen somebody come up. I always, you know, I always look at Cole Bennett, and he's a genius regardless of how you think of it. But the fact that he came up in Chicago, built a business off of hip-hop in Chicago, but never really went into doing any kind of street-related stuff at all, any drill stuff at all.

Like, granted, now he's had some drill rappers, like, on his platform, but, like, you know, not in a sense of them talking about anything. like that at all. Well, sometimes it's just, you got to understand, it's like it is his platform. You know what I'm saying? He can do for,

he'd get to choose if he wanted to deny this person or that person. If he feel like it'll jeopardize him or, I don't know, or he just don't like that type of shit. That's his preference, you know? Like, hmm.

But I, like, I, I haven't seen no street shit neither of. But I don't know. Shit, he like what he like. Shit, I guess. Yeah, there would have just been an easy route for him. I mean, it certainly kind of fell on our laps to just end up talking to a lot of different street rappers. But it seemed like the route he did take kind of got him way bigger, you know what I'm saying?

Honestly, it's bigger than it's just the street shit, you know? It's like, look way, yeah, he'd shoot videos for Eminem and shit. Exactly. Like, ain't no looking back after that. Like, it's just like. I mean, I guess Juice World really, you got a point of him as like the last great talent that came out of Chicago. in terms of doing something that wasn't really street-related, especially. I don't know who's going to come out that'll even hold anywhere near a candle to that.

But you think that that was that shit really cragging in Chicago, like, when it came out? You think, like, the average kid in Chicago was loving Juice World? Oh, Juice World? Yeah. Yeah, Juice World was hot. Like, I used to listen to Juice World. Yeah, yeah. Drill fans were, like, taking a little break to tap in with him.

They like that shit. Everybody liked Juice World. The numbers speak for itself, shit. Yeah. Everybody love that shit. one thing about Chicago, if you're coming up in Chicago, everybody going to support you. Chicago is going to support. That's a fact.

Just to finish up this narrative, though, I have it in my notes that you told billionaire Blackie was a rat at one point. You really think that? What? The billionaire rat? Yeah. At the end of the day, we kind of, we're doubling back. Uh-huh.

You can got to double back, you know what I'm saying? That's key. You're going to trip. gonna trip forward looking backwards how the fuck is that an answer to what i just asked you you have to pick up what i'm putting down you got a double back i don't understand you're gonna trip forward flush it out backwards oh you mean like literally in the course of this interview or just in life in general just in life mm yeah you a blasian doll fan oh i wouldn't say i'm like a fan but you see the talent she she's cool she she's not a right

Yeah, she got some good shit. Right. I just had her in her there earlier day. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's up. She's, hell yeah. She was wearing Fabio Forin's chain.

Who? Fabio Forin from New York. Yeah. She was rocking his chain. It was kind of. Are they cool? No, absolutely not. He got his chain took in the rack somehow.

And now she's been wearing it, doing all her interviews and stuff, which I never really seen a girl pushing that kind of time, you know? Yeah, like a lot of the females be That's how they be in Iraq, bro It'd be like, shit, there's some aggressive females Like, you can hear it in their raps It's crazy I mean, she comes from a crazy-ass background as well

You know about her mom and shit? No, I don't know about her mom No I probably shouldn't explain the whole entire situation But There's a whole thing That kind of makes sense of why She's a street rapper

I won't get into it Okay So where are you at with FYBJ Maine Because he has taken some shots At your producer Who Is that accurate?

Your producer? Yeah Yeah, that's my guy He's been producer For me for a while down for about What? Listen, yes, yes Okay

And so Jay Main Calls him Thunky Main You tell me You just told me That's like a dis of somebody specifically. I'm not in on that, that joke. Who's, who's that a diss towards?

Like, it ain't a diss. Like, it's more so just like calling the motherfuck of a goofy or lame or something like that. I'm thinking Thunkey's got to be somebody that shouldn't be just using the term all willy-nilly. That's my boy. He was somehow Digi. Right. Digi product. So he just changed it from Digi to Thunkey?

I guess, yeah. He said what he wanted to say. Okay. Let's get him in here. Let's talk to Digi. Clap it up, man, clap it up Gop it up, got him, man, clap it up. Yeah, oh, okay.

We got Digi in the building, man. We got Digi in the building. I was clapping at a different time than new. I got Digi in the building. Digi, aka, are you embracing this nickname at all? Nah. You don't fuck with it. No.

Tell us the story. Let's get away from that. Okay. Okay. Okay, a digi product. Okay. Digi product. How did this all come about?

Like, in terms of like, because you got his YouTube channel deleted allegedly? Right. Why did you do this? How did this happen? I love what it is. Yeah, sure. Sorry. Okay.

All right. So basically the reason why I deleted it was because we was working for some years, recorded them in my house, everything. Okay. Recording one on, like, literally like person to person. And he basically just stole all the money, stole the royalties from all the back end. Didn't leave anything.

He added me to one song. And that one song, I saw how much money it did. Did a couple thousand in a month. So I looked at all the other songs that was going on here. Like why I've been reaching out for years, sent lawyers at him said my manager at him said everything i have text dms emails everything just no reply just went ghost after that one song and we did you know we was doing some millions of views we had over two songs on youtube with a couple million you know so it was uh it was just sad that he had to go that way

you know like the youtube strikes was really to wake him up and to come reach out to me after that he still didn't reach out so at that point i'm not going to allow another a grown man to eat off my music and me just work for free. Right. You know, so it was the fact that we had, I think it was like 16 songs, right? Uh-huh. And you produced them all? I produced all.

Okay. I produced all of them. And so then you, you just assumed that he was going to have you given proper credit. Not assume, that's just like. That's how it's normally done. That's how it's exactly in the industry. It's business. Yeah.

This isn't, it's nothing. It's just business. That's all it is. at the end of the day. It's about the principal. You guys, how close of friends were you? I mean, we weren't like friends. We were just, it was business. Like I said, it was business.

It's not like we, it's not like, you know, kick it outside of music. We didn't do any of that. Okay. If we were together, it was because of music. This was like, you know, a couple times, but. And so basically you just filed the copyright strikes to try to get them to, like, great bread? That was supposed to be a little, that was supposed to be to wake up call, like, all right, reply to these emails, replied to these lawyer emails, these DMs. Right.

Still nothing. Just went on the internet, ranning and ranning, acting like this was a setup or something. And it was just, like, I gave him the opportunity so many times to just come reach out, call me. Did he ever, like, tell that part of the story?

No, I mean, I haven't, no. Yeah, he doesn't really get into detail about that. I noticed that he wants to, you know, he tried to avoid it. Right. Because it's all about the principle. It's not like I'm out here just thunking YouTube, you know?

I just dunked his because it. he didn't reach out. That's what thunk means? No, it was like to steal or you just did that? Nah, I just, I thunked as you too. That was a crazy word to you.

Are you? But it is like, like when I feel like I was too, I feel like I was too generous. I think I was too generous. I feel like I wait, because this was over three years. I've been reaching out for over three years.

This isn't just like a, oh, I woke up hot one day and just was mad. It was like, oh, I'm going to take his YouTube down. This was a process. And I didn't tell anybody. Ruger didn't even know until all this happened, you know, so with him trying to... Yeah, I thought on the internet when he found out shit. Exactly, exactly.

I seen it posted on the internet, but when he got to talking about this shit, but I just never understood why he keep throwing me in a damn mix. I ain't did nothing. Right. No one, literally no one knew. It's more so from the sounds of it, pay for your beats, man. Pay for your beats. You know, why have these problems in the long run, future artists.

Pay for y'all beats, man. Make sure these producers is taking care of, bro. really be the ones putting in all the groundwork for you and you can't just shit on them like that you know what I'm saying collect all the revenue and then don't hit their hand because this is the business at the end of the day everybody doing this shit for a reason everybody trying to feed their family bro and producers always get the short end of the stick or a lot of times artists kind of try to fuck them over so this is what this is what happens is the these distribution companies they have small distribution companies distro kit tune core they allow artists to upload

their music at their own will, they could grab any beat off YouTube and go upload it, and they can claim whatever percentage. So that's what he was doing. He was just claiming 100%. You're supposed to leave 50 for your producer unless you pay up and up free front. Once you pay an up, like an upfront fee, then basically that's what you're paying for is for the lease, depending on the terms. So when there's no lease, the producer's entitled to 50%.

But if you want to, like, if you have a close relationship, you could talk things out. You could write certain agreements. It's all about moving forward. forward with each other, not just money hungry and, you know. So he blames you for making them homeless. Yeah. Is that way on your conscious? I mean, it's like, he really just clowning, bro.

He got kids. I don't think a grown man would be saying he's homeless with kids. Like on the internet, you know, like, I think it's all a game. It's all for play, you know. Right. Because especially when the channel got taken down, he took good, I would say he took a good, what do you call it the timing of it when it happened he took he took uh trying to think how to explain it like he just took advantage of the situation when it happened and he just ran with it

he knew his youtube was going to get taken down so that's when the trolling started coming out i felt like this is what kind of led to the trolling was because he knew his music was getting taken down so i didn't mean to take all of his music down i took down what was mine and then the the distribution companies, they handled what they wanted to do. They did what they wanted to do. It's interesting because, at least based on looking at his current YouTube channel,

I can't imagine that losing the YouTube channel made him lose that much money. It might, maybe like a thousand a month type shit, you know? Okay. Maybe 2,000. That's just my guess. When I looked at it, it was, yeah,

it was like 36 million views. Oh, really? 100,000 subscribers. I guess he may be a lot more. And you would think that someone, if someone built that up, you would want to reach out and fix this problem. Right. Especially when I'm giving you an option over and over and over

and telling your people like, yes, we could work it out. I don't know. Like the money's gone, obviously. The money's gone. Right. I don't care about the money, but you could, we could work something out. You know, there's ways to work things out. He could give me a song.

I could put on my channel. Let me collect for a back end or there's things to work things out. But didn't reach out, nothing just. Brueger, you got a cold-hearted savage on your team right here. It's just business. That's a motherfucker homeless. No, it's more so about

it's a smart person, shit. He's smart. You know the business, bro. Everybody, like, I don't know. She just go about shit different. You can't knock a person if they, that's what they want to do. That's he want to go about it the legit way.

You feel me? I respect the shit. At the end of the day, you just got to, like, me and Digi, we got a, you know, different type of relationship. like Digi reached out to me back when I made Blickathon, he made the Blickathon beat. He reached out like, let's get in the studio.

He paid for the studio, everything. I worked with him, you know what I'm saying? We built from there. We was just working a lot. Then it started to hanging with them without music. You know what I'm saying? We wasn't doing me. We was just chilling, smoking, and just laughing and shit.

Then we built a relationship beyond, you know, beyond music. You identify as white? Yeah, I mean. I'm white. Okay, I was just, I just didn't want to call you my family's Mexican-Italant, but, you know. Oh, okay. Is this like your first white friend, or?

No, yeah. I was probably one of them, too. You still are my friend. Yeah, but not the first white friend. But, um, no, I got a lot of white friends, man. I want to be George Washington. Some good white people out here, like, my homie, Billy, Billy, Billy, who shoot the videos, Billy Cork, he white.

Right. That's my guy. That's like one of my, I'm going his wedding. Bro, invited me to the wedding. Wow, must be nice. God, man, I felt special, man. Man, where's my wedding invite? I'm a wedding guy now.

I'm a wedding guy now. I just go to weddings. I'm a wedding crasher. Go to other people's weddings. I don't even know who they are. The weddings be lit because they throw on the GDs in the dough. Do they? It's not in my wedding. What?

You got to play GDs in the door at your wedding. Dude, we went very out of our way to make a list of songs that they were going to play at the wedding, and then they just had some random-ass DJs playing fucking stupid-ass songs I never even heard before. If y'all would have played GD's in a day. They would have been in that bitch. They didn't like the cheese in a dog.

I looked up at one point they were playing Pump It Up. How are you going to play Joe Burning at my wedding? That's what I was mainly getting videos of weddings. He's not my biggest op or nothing, but like, you know, what if they played somebody I genuinely hate? What if I hate them and they play their song?

They could really fuck up the wedding. That would be a real problem for you. I don't think there's nobody you genuinely hate me. You seem like a good guy, man. No, but I hate people. I don't think of the other people I hate. I'm a drill rapper. I'm not going to name them.

It doesn't even come to the front of my mind, but there's a lot of people. And if you could get to a point where you hate them, you know them. You got to kill them. No, not kill them. Send someone to kill them. No. No?

No? Take their YouTube down, man. Take their YouTube down. What happens when a big platform like you gets a copyright strike? Is that like it's a no-brainer? Like you just know. it's going to not resolve because there's a lot of processes to the

couple like you know there's a lot of different times because you know a video could get taken down because there's a song or it could just get claimed I've had videos I uploaded where somebody fucked up and used the wrong song and then it just gets claimed and at some point you're going to go take it out or whatever but one I have a couple of catastrophic memories which is

one time I was on stream right after Mac Miller died and we watched Mac Miller's tiny desk performance I believe it was from NPR and that got our fucking channel like a real serious strike but we luckily were able to talk to NPR and they took it down but yeah there's

been a few little random ones like that over the years or I remember one time I was on stream and it was like the new Tyler the Creator album came out and I don't even normally like listen to Tyler the Creator like that but I was like oh I'm going to listen to this listen to like four or five songs in a row got a strike on the channel

I was like the fuck is this bullshit you should have told me I had no idea but he tried to Donald Trump you by giving you this nickname thunky man i'm gonna give him a nickname you kind of like it though it's good branding no comment i didn't think that you know the internet would know me as thunky man right so i'm gonna try i'm gonna say this right now it's diger product right i don't want to be in public and be all that's that's that's thunky man that's dungy bro what because you see me

when i'm doing the interview with him he keeps saying it and i'm like who who is it and like he finally said ruga's producer i'm like okay well at least now i have a general i felt like you said that though So you said that's... Well, yeah, because I had seen him say that. You try to get it out of him, but he just wouldn't... Yeah. He just wants to give you a nickname. So now that you heard, you know what I'm saying,

the whole situation as far as that, how do you feel about it? It's kind of gangster. How do you take it? I understand, like... So, with him, from both parties, who was wrong? Oh, he was definitely on the wrong, yeah.

He was in the wrong, but he wanted to be given a pass to be able to do something wrong because he's the rapper in the situation or whatever. This semester, Jay Man. Just, you know, do your business right. Handle your shit right. It'll be right. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't got no, me personally. I ain't got no smoke with Jay Man. You feel me? My only thing was just don't be, don't keep, you know what I'm saying? Don't be trolling me and shit. Adam, do you think he can get in his channel. Hold on.

And plan with, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, you on live and shit with my pops, playing sand, a slick shit. It's simple as just by respect at the end of the day. You feel me. Like, I had nothing but respect for J. Main. You feel me?

I never said nothing bad about him, never played with him on the internet shit, never even been that type. And when I did meet him, he wasn't like that, you feel me? So it's like, that's just what it was. I had called J.Main and told, Yeller had called him for me. So I ain't have his number. And I just told him, like, bro, just stop, you know what I'm saying, playing on me like that.

You know what I'm saying? I don't do that because I don't play with you like that, feel me? but even though I know he'd be trolling and that's the way he get his bread you feel me I respect how you get your money but we just had we just I just felt like when I met you we had a different type of relationship so don't be on the internet trolling like we really be like this you know what I'm saying I don't be playing like that bro see the thing is is I'm pretty sure if you get three copyright strikes at the same time that that can just nuke your channel

and that there's no coming back from it that's what I've always heard but I don't know the database somewhere or they can get removed. I've been told that I could remove the strikes, but I don't know after it's actually gone. Like I think he had, I think it was a, they gave me like a day limit to where he could respond or I could withdraw all the strikes.

And I told him that. I told him I could withdraw all of them. And he's just, no, no attempt. Nothing. You would try to call through people and, like, I'm a phone call away.

That's wild. Because then, like, then the victim narrative don't really make that much sense. Because it's like, you could have. I gave him so many, I gave him too many opportunities. I really should have

like labels nowadays will just anybody major producers will just you got 72 hours not three years over a course of trying to work things out

you know so I was definitely too nice the only people's channels I've been able to have Zapped or people who are like fully re-uploading like clips of our content okay

and I've had a few of them but just down yeah but does YouTube ever hit you back for more information you have to keep because

I've gone through. They've hit me back four or five times, and I just have to keep putting my registration number through. I never even did it. I just send my hitter, Josh. I'm like, hey, Josh. I need you to run a play. Take this motherfucker out.

Josh is thunking you too. Josh is my thunky man, yeah. So I never really had to be the one clicking the buttons, but I would like to get in there, get my hands dirty, catch a few bodies, you know. And producers don't do this just to anybody. This is a, this is a certain situation. Just putting that out there.

I want producers taking this the wrong way. Everybody's starting to take people's YouTube down. Now, that's not what I'm trying to promote. I'm trying to promote. Stand on business about the principal. Everybody's got to work. Everybody's got to eat. But you never had an artist try to do you like this before?

This is the first time somebody did anything suss to you? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. But I mean, hey, it's true. The producers get the short end of the stick a lot of times. And there's, you know, the fans are just so in love with the rapper, the on-camera talent that they, just don't really give a fuck, you know, even if it's like obvious that they did the producer dirty,

you know? So I respect it at the end of the day, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Um, okay. Who else have you worked with besides Ruga? Anybody in particular we should know about any, what more do we need to know about the Digi Prada lore? I had some songs with FBG Ducks, some big songs. I'm from 63rd. I made that one. Um, got a couple on Ruga's album with, with, uh, some features too. Probably have those. Nice. Got some unreleased too. Got some,

um, got a bunch of solos with him too. You know what's crazy is I actually have more songs with Duck than Ruga. Really? Which is crazy. Yeah. Damn, you were working that much than before?

Yeah. Wow. He introduced me to Duck. Damn, what was it like for you when he found out he passed? I was, I was downtown with, uh,

16, actually, we was like a couple blocks away. And the way the internet made it seem was, you know, he was okay. It was just fucked up to see, you know, the way everybody,

he was posting that he was still you know he was still up it was just just messed up how the police just leave him there wow but yeah we were yeah that's crazy but you don't think the GDs are grimy you've had good experiences with these guys for the most part man these guys I'm on no jumper right now bro that's a good point you feel me so well we got fucking Donald Trump jane over there giving you a nickname to kind of thank for that partially right no man everything's cool over here man. If anything, he told me I could work with whoever I want, just move right. That's all.

Just move right. They just want to see me win. That's all. They just want to see me win. That's dope. What a guy. That's just how it should be. I feel like producers shouldn't have to two sides or even cameraman and all this. It's just work with who you want to work with. Just move right.

And if you really have a producer you like working with, you should very much go out of your way to treat them as good as possible because that's the secret sauce. A lot of the biggest rappers are kind of like there because they had a really great relationship with producers early on.

You know? Like they had their producer that they, you know, we're building with and that helped give them a signature sound. It's hard to blow up as a rapper if you're always kind of chasing behind other people's sounds.

And it's like, oh, now I want a pushaistee beat because pushaisee's going crazy and it's hard to really stand out. Whereas like the people who are really deep in this game and really know how to treat the game, they fucking treat producers like gold, I feel like. They go very out of their way

to always be looking for the next top dude, you know? For sure, for sure. I feel like it's just, they're marketable too. It makes them an artist 10 times marketable to, like Southside and working with G Herbo and just all types of shit. People come together in future the way they're just pumping out albums

It's just it's marketable It's a different type of connection People can feel the music different You know than just Like we were just talking about this the other day Just playing beat just instead of just playing beats You could actually work and make a craft together Versus just click play do you like it

Click play another beat do like it is different Definitely So wait are you you have a label Like you're really pushing the label side of things Because I've seen a video that was like King Yellow Says he signed Taruga How does that work when you guys have known each other forever. We basically, we got

Jehahe Entertainment. That's my label. That's B. You know the group. You know what I'm saying? You got J.E.C. Devo. J.H. Fat A.J.E.E.L. He is the creator of Jahe. Entertainment. Okay. So Ewell is the one who kind of recorded for them near the whole Chicago.

Everybody know Ewell. You heard it on Ducks songs. Hey, Ewell. I don't want a auto tune. That's Ewell. You know what I'm saying? He made the label. And we just been running with it there since. But Yeller, that's my boy. But Yeller, he was trolling, playing this shit. Oh, why are saying he signed to you?

Yeah, he just planned. I was right there with him when he did that shit. We was playing the shit. But, yeah, I've been trying to get artists, you know what I'm saying, from Chicago, certain artists. And just keep building and try to, you know what I'm saying, keep the legacy going. Definitely, for sure. It's good to hear.

Okay, your name came up in, a very, very popular interview that happened recently. Dirk did an interview with academics, and academics was asking him about certain things that may have transpired were basically, Dirk was saying that there was a big show in Chicago that Gagne did. He wanted Dirt to come out. You were going to be there too.

Dirk realized and was like, no, it ain't happening, making it sound like he was all right with being on the same project as you, but the idea of him being in the same place as you, was out of line. Am I getting this right? Yeah, but it was just the thing. It was like that on both parties. Okay.

It was like that on my end too. So when you got the invite, you were automatically thinking like, I don't know. No, he ain't necessarily say like he dudes from the beat up, but when I got there, I got to looking at the album

and just looking at all the names that's on it and I did see his name. And it's just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm here, shit. I'm working on really. ain't nothing going to stop my opportunities, bro. Oh, we bump shoulders, we bump shoulders. It is what it is.

I wasn't like, I'm working at the end of the day. I'm writing music and I'm just working. Right. But so you wouldn't have been worried about running into him? To him that was like reason enough to not go based on what he said. I wasn't worried. No, hell no. Even if I did, like I said.

Shit. But you can't, going into that kind of environment, you can't necessarily go into the environment the way that you would want to, right? You can't have 10 homies with you and you can't have this and that with you, right? Yeah. You could?

Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm picturing it kind of being like a more close thing. Honestly, when I got around kind of, yeah, I knew more people than anything. Like, a lot of people I knew from Chicago and shit. Yeah, it's well connected. Like with Chicago, people would just be thinking,

yeah, just don't reach back. Yay really reached back to a lot of people from the rack, for real. And it's people that I know with Yay that know my parents and shit. Really? You know what I'm saying? That grew up with them back then. You know what I'm saying? They all, everybody connected.

So I knew a lot of people like, oh, it was love, bro. I wasn't, I wasn't thinking about that shit, honestly. That was my last, the last thing on my mind. I'm writing music for the biggest artists in the game. Like, I'm in here, you know what I'm saying? Writing, I'm on the album. I'm not thinking about that shit. Right.

It's the last thing on my mind. No, definitely. That's good. Did you listen to the Dirk album? What, which album? The new one? Almost healed? No, I ain't listened to it.

You passed that? I heard, you know, the song that's out. The J. Cole's song? Yeah, I heard that, but, no, I ain't listened to it. Okay. You're past listening to your ops music at this point? No, I don't, like I say, I listen to what. Whatever, like, if it comes to me, I'll listen to it.

If it's good music, I don't give a fuck away. it is man but I ain't got no ops okay I don't got no ops man really no but you have people that if you were to see him it would be a whole thing

no well the dirt thing right there that we're just discussed it seems like an example right it's more so man like I say bro you're gonna trip forward looking backwards trip forward looking backwards

it is hard to walk looking backwards guess yeah I see that happen to my kid she'll be running along and she'll just start looking at something else and then all of a sudden she'd shit because she's not focused on where she's going it's pretty good example of what you're talking about right yeah but I don't be bro like on some real shit like I like I like it's like people be like bringing up that shit like with us and do them like it's like it's like people just can't get over it like the the the beef the why like I just can't I don't understand it it's like a lot of people

just cannot get past that shit like just talking about it like no bro that shit like oh bro I'm motherfuckers be I be with my son bro I be walking my son down the street with his bike and shit like that you know what I'm saying making sure he have a good life I don't be thinking about that shit. So when it get brought up, it's like... Well, you've been removed from it for a few years now, right? You've been out of Chicago for a few years, so it's especially like, this must seem kind of bizarre to you, right? Yeah, it's just more. So I'm just...

You know, it's like a cloud that's over you that just people just won't stop bringing around and bringing... It's like, all right. Motherfugers is growing. That's all is about growth and development, man. When's the last time you put a diss song out? It ain't been that long. Probably, I don't know, bro.

Yeah, I was listening to Posse Cuts with you and these guys that are on your label or whatever, and they fucking are still talking about all kinds of people, right? Who? I forget exactly, but I know I heard a bunch of that shit when I was listening. On the songs? Yeah. Yeah, you know, motherfuck going to talk their shit? You know how that shit go?

And how are you going to judge an interviewer when we ask about it? I ain't judging. It's just more so. But you're like, oh, how could they be so fascinated by it? But at the same time, I mean, this is, when you go in to make content, it quite often comes up, right? It's more so, just the thing, like, it's not just that one side that just do it. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, some people don't sit around and think about that shit all day.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, that shit ain't about nothing about it. I can't wait to ask Kenylla about. the line he made a channel trying to get some veneers. Yeah. I mean, that was, I'm not going to lie, that was a pretty funny dis. I don't know if that's, like, actually how that happened. But kind of got to chuckle out of me even before I realized it was about him.

You're never going to make a YouTube channel? I should. A YouTube channel? I got a YouTube channel, like, as far as for music. But are you ever going to post up and plop the camera down and make a video talking about? Like this, like a podcast? Yeah. I don't know.

Maybe, I've been thinking about doing one with my son. Me and my son make a podcast together. Really? Are you going to play Legos or something? Hmm? You're going to play Legos on camera or something? Might do. How old is he?

He's five. Yeah, I don't know. Five-year-old on a podcast? Might be kind of tough. I never know. O'Nus is positive. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Kid-friendly. You play your music around him and stuff? Some of it. Some of it. that's too explicit and too. I don't play that. He can't listen to that. Okay.

No, he can't even watch no TV shows that just too. You know what I'm saying? So your girl's on it like that? We are on it. You're on it as well. We're on it. My girl is definitely the stricter of us.

Yeah. When I play the drill music and whatnot, she will definitely be the one to turn it off. Yeah, because it's like they pick up, kids are sponges, bro. They soak up every fucking thing. And then they talk a lot. So he go to school a lot.

So I don't need my son at school talking about this type of shit. Or just speaking on that, he shouldn't even be, that's nothing he should even be talking about. You know what I'm saying? But I try to keep him off of that shit. I don't even let him watch YouTube. Like, he watched YouTube probably like weekends. You know what I'm saying?

Like certain shows, you know what I'm saying? But, nah, YouTube would be too much going on. I got to make like a kid burner YouTube account to keep logged in on my TV because at some point my kid is going to realize that my face and also her mother's face are in the thumbnails of a lot of videos on the channel. As soon as she can read, it's over. I got to find all kinds of ways to make sure that she can't read the titles of the random videos about us on YouTube. It gets crazy. And that's what I'm saying. It's like when you got a kid involved, bro, it get different.

It's like you kind of got to make that decision. like, is this something I want to do? Or is this something? I don't know. It's like nobody could tell you how to feel or what to do. You know what I'm saying? But it's a deep-ass situation to think about. Like, I had to do that with my son.

You know what I'm saying? Like, with moving out of Chicago and just trying to do something different, you know what I'm saying? Be a better father figure for him. You know what I'm saying? She'd get tough with your father, bro. Definitely. I wanted to ask about this.

There was a clip of Tay Savage talking about you helping him fight behind bars. You have any recollection of this? Yeah, that was like... That was like 2010. Wow, really? No, no.

I want to say... I got locked up October, 2010. That was like 2011. Beginning of 2011. A motherfucker, you know, back then, I ain't... He was, we was never beefing with, with Tate Savage now.

You see what I'm saying? Okay. Like, I got a homie who brothered them from over that type of shit. 2010 is like a billion fucking years ago before everything started, right? Meet him in there. He was cool, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't no smoke or nothing. He was just cool.

And we was on a school wing, and we was all in class. And the motherfucker ran in the classroom. It's just a natural instinct as a wing. The whole, damn me, the whole wing was in there for, was whipping dude. because it's like you ran from another wing to our wing and punched the motherfucker in the classroom. You're saying they were all fighting Tate Savage or fighting someone else?

No, one person ran in the classroom from another wing and tried to hit them. You feel me? It's just natural instinct. We all sitting right next to each other, so everybody just got the rolling in his eyes. We got the rolling in his eyes. It was like kind of a wing thing.

We stuck together as a wing, the whole little deck. But, yeah, it was a relationship. with him, you know what I'm saying? He was cool. Yeah, we rode dude. We beat his ass. It was that wild to even have shit like that coming out in interviews and stuff to have this like ancient-ass fucking stories just being passed down like that?

You probably hadn't thought about it in 10 years. I honestly forgot about that shit. I'm like, damn, I'm phone up. We did roll his ass. Right. Wow. Small world. Small world.

When's the last time you were locked up? I ain't even locked up since I've been locked up. Bro, Ruga is a changed man. You're like a monk these days, bro. You just come in with this very, like, calm, high as fuck, energy. You're like, I don't know. I never heard of that guy. I never had anything to do with this.

I'll be chilling, bro. I told you. I ain't know what this shit ain't. This shit will always be in me, but I'm grown as hell, bro. Mm-hmm. I got a, you know what I'm saying? I got a family. This shit real, man.

It's like, you just got to wake up. man some days and no like i say everything don't need a reaction you just got to be that's the type of time i'm on bro i don't give a point i don't give a fuck what nobody think but what nobody got to say on with my family straight and i'm straight and my team we good i ain't worried about that shit bro for sure how you feel about uh the the overwhelming new trend and hip-hop of snitching Hey, y'all here. It's a lot of their ass. For real, they deep.

You see the Rich Homi Kwan footage that came out yesterday? No, I ain't see that. That's some of the wildest shit I heard so far. Because it got larked or it got leaked right out of the police department. But this my, yeah, that's my question, though, like, how the fuck is all this evidence shit is getting into people's hands where they could post it? First of all, how has somebody even getting this shit from a police station, like, or just... By an employee who has access to all of it, you know? It's like, ain't that's illegal?

Yes. Like, basically, you put something out of a person snitching or whatever, and now they're in jeopardize or dying out here. Because, not... So it's, like, kind of they fault of loosely getting that... Even though it's good, it'd be good to get out there because you know who the fuck the snitches is. Mm-hmm. But that shit be... crazy on both your hands, bro. That shit, wow.

Because the other thing is it's like not only is it illegal for them to do so, but you could potentially if you were like an employee at the police station who happened to be leaking footage of witnesses talking about what they saw, you could be putting their life in danger, but you're also creating

a climate in which no rational person is going to want to give a statement on the stand or whatever. So you might be taking a fucking criminal case that the state has has spent millions of dollars on and just completely jeopardizing it and making it so that they're not going to be able to get a conviction in the same way that they wanted to, which is great for the rapper or the, you know, potential criminal who's being accused of something. But, you know, from the perspective of them, that's fucking crazy.

Like, that's like, you know, I don't know how much time they could potentially end up facing, but it could be, like, really bad. And, but that's like they were just, I was just having that conversation with Brick Baby. He's talking about how in Atlanta, I mean, Atlanta is like the blackest city in America, I believe. Yeah. So, you know, even if, like, that police department, thinking about how many fucking random black dudes who got love for thug work there. I'm not saying the only black dude could have love for him or whatever. But, like, you know there's some people in there who got some kind of connection to all these different dudes. And it's like, it would be pretty fucking easy to be like, hey, copy that fucking file to a hard drive.

And then we're going to send it out on YouTube or whatever. and let everybody know about how somebody's telling. I mean, I don't know. I don't know, man. Should be crazy, man. This is wicked out here, man. You got to be careful. That's a fact.

If Gunna was part of your crew, and he had given that statement that he gave where he basically said that the label was a criminal organization, is that if you were a young thug in this example, would that be enough for you to never want to do business with them again and you wouldn't be cool anymore? I ain't gonna lie, bro. That's, that situation is Atlanta business.

You know what I'm saying? Let them handle it, how they handle it. You feel me? I'm from the rack. I don't know nothing about their case, man. Honestly, I see what I see on the internet, but I don't know, bro. I can't say, bro.

That's a whole Atlanta shit. But you ever go back to the rack these days? You just leave it alone. I do my thing. I visit, I be in, you know, visit family and shit. Yeah, yeah. That's where I'm from. Okay.

I'm always in the rack. I like it. What do we have to look out for? What do you got planned for the near future? I've really got, I've been investing into my truck and company. So I got a rental car service. I've been working on my album. I'm saying.

Me and Ye, we work and we got a new album shit coming. You're still working with Ye. Yeah, I never stopped. What kind of stuff you're working on? I just don't post shit, bro. I don't be, I don't care for posting and all that, bro. That shit don't matter to me. You're just writing from home, or do you go out there and tap in with them?

I tap in, like, all the time. You know what I'm saying? It's just we writing, you know what I'm saying? We ain't nothing to really be working. How do you feel about the cancellation of Kanye West? It's been pretty extreme over the last year or two. I don't think you could cancel him. Well, large percentages of his business seem like they've been kind of ripped away from him.

So maybe not entirely cancel them, but when you could take like every fashion brand that's ever worked with them and none of them feel comfortable continuing a relationship with him because of the pressure that they get put on them by the anti-defamation league and whatnot, I mean, that's an example in which, you know, his canceling was pretty serious. But when you make, when you up, multi-billion dollars, bro, you know by how you get it. No, fuck, bro. Motherfugger's, that man going to eat, sleep, shit the same, man. Yeah? Yeah.

If you had multi-billion dollars, would you give a fuck? Yeah, but in his case, it's more like he had multiple billions of dollars, and then maybe now he has, you know, a couple hundred million or 400 million or I'm not sure, but. That's the internet. Everybody going off the internet. You don't know. If I had two billion and then all of a sudden I had 400 million, I'd probably be. like, well, what the fuck?

How do you know that? I'm just, that's estimates I've seen in the media. I'm not saying it's accurate, but if that was. That's stuff that people control that the narrative of their own. If he ain't posted it, you can't believe that shit, bro. Like, you can't believe the internet, bro. I think he's acknowledged that he's taking some pretty massive Ls financially as a result of this. I don't know, man.

He just blames it on the Jews. I don't know, man. I might tell you, I took a L, but be playing with what I'm, you. You got to give them an overplay for the underplay, bro. Don't nobody. And nobody's going to tell you what they're working with, bro. Reset their expectations or what? If he could say that on the internet and say,

I just, I lost this, and you on the interview saying, like, he may have this. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He made people think this, that, and make it. I'm telling you, bro, like, people could say anything, and people just believe it. Never know what a person working with, bro. I wonder when he's going to decide to release music, though. You don't have any kind of insight on that?

You're just working on shit? You're working on the album. Right. But you help him write shit? We're working on the album. You got a contract? You got NDA? We're working on the album.

You're working on the album. Yeah. What about Did you prod? Is he on the album? Did you get him in there? Did you just say it sends some beats. put him in the right place. That's what he said?

Yeah, right before the interview. Because it's that time, you know what I'm saying? It ain't just about me. It ain't just about me, you know? Like, for real, like, you never know. I might be around you and pull out a beat. And he might like it in his digies. That shit could change Digi life.

You never know, like, that's just how it is, bro. You got to keep working, getting your people involved. That's what we own. No, definitely. That's a fact. Do you think that J. Main and King Yellow's beef is real? How serious should I take this conflict? I don't know.

I think you got to ask yellow. That, I can't say. I will. When he's in here momentarily, I will ask him. Yeah, you got to ask yellow, bro. Yeah, elaborated for you. I've seen King Yellow at the Porn Awards. Not actually in the Porn Awards, but he was in the lobby of one of the parties.

You really? Remember I called you that day. Did you? You remember, bro. I was like, you were out here in Vegas. He was like, I just left. Oh. You probably was lit that day or something and didn't remember.

I don't get lit. See your friend called you. You don't even remember me calling. This is crazy. It's how Adam do me. He's messed up. When I'm in porn world, I'm in porn world, is hard for me to, like,

adjust to, like, being a hip-hop guy as well, you know? No, for sure. When I'm in that point in world, I got to try to impress all these fucking girls with fake boobs and shit, you know? It's a different level. Then I come back. here, I'm right back in the streets.

So you just be acting crazy, huh? No. You acting crazy with the shit, huh? I was out there for a week straight. I didn't fuck anybody the whole time because that's my girl. That's real shit, though. It's good y'all got to understanding, though, because yeah. What? Yeah, because I ain't, you know, I don't, I ain't in any of the type of thing. Me and my girl, we're straight. Yeah? Yeah, we ain't. It's hard for me to remember sometimes.

that the average person's relationship is like super controlling. And I mean, I have friends who I see like, you know, the girl would be yelling at him for even looking at another girl. So the fact that my girl can watch me eat another girl's ass right in front of her. It's crazy. And that newfoundedly, I can watch her get piped down by a large man, large gentleman. You're like a crazy, man. You know, it's all business.

It's crazy, man. All business. You let the motherfucker get up in there, Joe. Doing some renovating. Yeah. That's a little dangerous, though. You got to be careful, got them, man. I told them.

I'm like, we're playing with fire. You got to really communicate if we want to make this thing work. Let a black motherfucker get up in there to get real. And they might never come back. What they say? Once you go black, you think that's real? I think a lot of girls have gone black

and came back. But now, though, um... You know what pisses me off of seeing these white bitches on fucking Twitter accusing me being racist for saying BBC? I don't think so. I'm not buying it. I don't know if we should be talking about that. No.

Yeah. I'm just like, this is not very convincing to me. Like, I don't... Yeah, I don't know how we get to that. Like, that was too fast, bro. Too fast. You move a fash, bro. Ain't that the truth.

Anything else that we should know about? What we got going on here, guys? What are the edible? What happened to your adibals met last time? We don't have that sponsor anymore. That's a good point, though. We need a new one. You could have wanted to just bought me some adibals, bro.

I didn't know you're still on that type of time, and I don't want you to pass out on the drive home. This is how Adam do with me, bro. This is my man's, though. You were incapacitated last time. I was good, though. They had to put you in a wheelchair and get your ass out of here. No, they didn't.

No, but it was nearly that. You was asking some crazy questions. Last time? Yeah. By the edibles were kicking my ass. Bro. What a gun, though? The drum?

The other gun. Where the pipe go? I seen the piping hell. Yeah, well, that would be interesting to see what happened if I put that inside my gun, but I'm not going to do that right now on camera. It seems irresponsible. Yo, lighter? Huh?

That was a lighter, wasn't it? The lighter? The gun lighter. Do we have a gun lighter? I mean, we got another extendo clip right here. No, I sound like the, with the, oh, they do have that out there, yeah, but not right here.

It's probably confusing to some people that they walk by the design section of the office and there's a bunch of... This shit fuck my head up for a second, huh? Took you back to the old times? What out of my own, man? Yeah? Remind you?

Reminds you of what it used to be like, doing drills and without a care in the world. Not to put that evil on you. No, my name Ben, and I ain't in it, man. For the show. All right. Appreciate you guys coming through. We filled in some very important lore.

Needed to be spilled. All the fans out there. They needed to hear it. They needed to hear it. Yeah. All right. Ruga. Digitra.

Thank you. Appreciate you guys coming through. Shout out to everybody who watch this. You are truly heroes. Smas the like button. We out.