No Jumper - Rowdy Rebel on Dissing LA, Pop Smoke, If He's Still Cool with Bobby & More

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Rowdy Rebel responds to the LA ban, politics, Wack100, the "tapin in" culture, Blockstar and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, we got the hottest topic for at least one of. You made it the hottest topic. What you're talking about? You can't blame me for your own actions. Yeah, whatever. Robbie Rebel, in the building, smoking big Zah.

What's the word? Hey, shit, I'm cold up. How are you feeling? I'm telling you. What's going on? Cool there. I think I speak. For a large percentage of LA,

when we just want to know, you know, what's going on? The SMD thing. Heard a lot of feelings out here. No, it only had your feelings. No, actually, I really didn't give a fuck. It was mostly the grumpy, older gang members who were offended. Who was offended? Well, I don't want to put names on it.

Nobody felt offended until you trying to make this for the fiddly. You blame me? New York, we're stuck in my dick as every, and suck of my dick, that's regular. Okay. I'm going to do the history for you. New York. New York basically were pioneers in considering suck my to be extremely offensive.

When we think about where it's considered the most offensive to invite somebody to your penis, I feel like New York kind of pioneered that. Now, granted, that was a long time ago when I feel like Jay-Z had some quotes back in the day where he really made it clear that if somebody invited them to his cock about he was done, he would never communicate with them again. That's the situation that I viewed it from. I viewed it as a more serious statement coming from a New Yorker than I would have viewed it from as a California saying the same thing. So what were you thinking when you posted that up?

I was just being me. Yeah, where did that come from? Because a lot of people thought it was because it was like in response to like the pop smoke, Blockstar interview. I don't know. I just said that because it's like, you know what I'm just. You know what I said. that. I don't

f*** with what the niggas that happened with, bro. Let's that. Like, I'm not out here looking for niggas on some, I'm like, oh, I'm not, some stupid shit, but I'm fucking you on, like, it was violent. It took my brother, like, took my...

But to the whole gang. Huh? Not to one member. You said the hooves. Whoever is part of that shit, whoever he is with, that's who I meant to for, like, for me.

Because, like, when a bro explained it to me, like, it's different sets, and certain people don't have shit to do with it. It's like, all, Clintwick. But the niggas who do guys trying to do with it

it is like all fuck y'all for me there's no it ain't nothing that's head in but you could have said

Blockstar suck I don't know his name like I'm not You didn't watch the interview no why would I watch the interview

just to find out what people were talking about in regards to I don't always want to sit there and start look at boy face for too long really no

so you hold it against him even though he was a child when that shit took place. What did you do with Robin, like the homeboy? Like, we're from New York. All right, cool. But, like, we just looked at it like a lick. And we didn't look at it like, oh, this is, for me,

one of the homeboys that's coming up. And I don't look at it like that. So I'm not looking at it. You asked if he was a child old. To be fair, though, he said he didn't even know it was a rapper. He thought it was a model or some shit. He was like 15. Yeah, but you, so when you said that,

you were more so just talking to him and his people type shit. It wasn't. It was a while so broad, though, while of life. Oh, what's how? It wasn't for LA, bro. No, you wrote. You didn't say they did. Hoosers, SMB, and also L.A.

To me, to me, it was a joke. To y'all, I don't know why y'all you took it like that for me, but that is what it is. We live in fear of the Hoosers. It's a scary organization. They hold shit down. They get busy. We've all seen it.

So when we saw that, yeah, we took it as kind of. of like a crazy provocation. And that it would have been considered kind of loose if you had just said it about the Hovers, but you said L.A. as a whole. So that was why I think set off a lot of people. Nah, fuck with L.A., man. It ought to stop that.

Yeah, because you live in L.A., don't it? Whatever. That ain't in New York. Back and forth. I even said New York something like that. Nobody felt the way. I didn't see that. But you could say it about your own neck of the woods, right?

Yeah. Oh, long. Come on now. That's how Dolom outside. I mean, I'm in. I don't know. So it wasn't no backlash, though, besides, like, internet trolls and shit?

Like, no, no, L.A. niggas hit you? Like, what's how it, this or nothing? They hit the bro and shit, like, explain to me how, like, the sex is and shit. Like, it's different branch off and shit. I'm like, all right? Because you're connected with the Crips out here a little bit, right? Yeah, like, I f*** the homies. But listen, bro, like, at the end of the day, like, I woke up.

So what I said, I was to play with shit. I never took it away. Don't take it away, bro. With all the niggas, I don't fuck with you. You know, like, that's that, bro. Like, for me. But I think people were shocked by it because you made it seem like you were saying that when you were on the way out of town. Nobody knew that you, like, lived here until this whole thing starts up.

But so people are looking at that and they're thinking, oh, Roddy has this reputation as a street dude. But now he's basically saying, I'm out of here. So suck my dick. People don't respect that. They would respect you to say, hey, I'm in town. Everybody suck my dick. I'm here. But when you say, like, I'm out of here, suck my dick.

I think they took that. Why out of here? I said my dick. Like, if you're like, all right, whatever, man. I feel it out. Hey. So Wack took in his disrespect.

Where did the connect? Why would he take it that disrespect? Because you said L.A. Oh, come on, like. You're not even like, like, left L.A. Hart. Oh, he's a West Coast soldier, for sure.

Well, he didn't go to that, while I walk with the homies. That's some other shit. That's like me asking you, why you can go to some Crip March in Manhattan? It's like Manhattan's a million miles away. If it makes sense, I'm pushing up. If it makes sense, I'm pushing up.

He runs his mouth about YG all the fucking time on Clubhouse, so I feel like him going to that march. He would have been the trending time. Why even run in his mouth all the time? Why even jump in that shit and even, like, say certain things? Even when you said like, all right, he said what you say. You're like, all right, that's on him. He could have kept a push in.

He got to glorify. Oh, he can't do it. He can't do it. You're a rapper. You're cool. You're swagged out. You can get away from just, you know, being on some cool shit. Once you get to be 40 years old, God forbid, he's almost 50.

You got to sit on Clubhouse. You got to talk shit. You got to get by off of having opinions and whatnot. I have an opinion, but don't have a negativity towards your opinion alone. There's a pain to be, like, his opinion is trying to get me hurt. Like, fuck out of here. Well, you could say that your Instagram story post was really what was trying to get you hurt. right?

Listen, bro. Stop the fucking, bro. I'm just saying. All he did was acknowledge what he read and offer up his opinion. You were instigator, first of all. This is why that shit happened.

You were instigator. I could not exist. And the reaction to that would have been exactly the same. No, it was not. You're the only one I picked that shit up, and it made my New York niggas pick it up and go crazy.

New York drill all of them. Mm. Like, they just, like, I don't know. I don't even care. your attitude is hey if you were offended by it do something because I respect that's what you say my attitude I don't care

my attitude just don't pay me I ain't like just leave it long like you said it but you ain't mean it as disrespect you really was targeting niggies there was a friendly suck my dude and that's great you know because so my dick is disrespectful when you're from New York so when you say that it's kind of like I can see why I'm whack is mad

but then like on the other hand brick baby said y'all talked about it and shit and he ain't really tripping you know what I'm saying he said the same thing I was talking to him about he's like you gotta understand it it don't mean the same thing out here that it means there that I think it's tripping so did you and whack had a relationship prior to this or no you and I never met that man talking on me like that they hanging around with six nine and shit like making interviews with six nine and shit like this thing's a clown he's trying to rehabilitate his career you think it's gonna work I don't care what he's doing bro six nine got a blonde

Edgar now. That's a real 40 way there. That's Crip Mac's last 40 from before he got locked up. We're saving it for him. I free the look. Yes. Free that look. And that's his teddy bear too. On Crip Street. He was like, why is he saying?

Well, was he a Crip Street? What do you say it? There's a lot of people who say. 50th Street. So he inspired your cribbing? You made you want to take it up a notch? Yeah, bro. You got to stop the shit you be saying, bro.

I'm just saying I feel like he inspired a lot of crips worldwide I had an Italian Crip on here Loving it Loving the 55th Street shit We're from We don't even cut a bag We don't even be like We're cribs and bloods or we're from and shit

But like that shit's like that's like in my past I'm Cripp out of heart still Because like that was in me for me But we don't be on that gang bang on like And shit like if you go to jail You're like all right I don't know. Let's be on that. But in the streets, it'd really be like block shit, like, for me, you know?

Yeah. There's really be a rap in their block more sometimes, for me. I don't know. It's complicated over there and everything. But one of Wax's arguments, or what he was saying, he was saying that you probably didn't even ever meet Pop Smoke in real life, true or false? No, I didn't meet the bro.

Okay. Check out music together and shit. Yeah. I talked to a bro from a jail, but what that person meant? The bro was in my side. I guess his attitude was that you were over whooping and kind of inserting yourself into some shit with somebody that you didn't actually have a real relationship with. My argument was like, who cares? He's still an icon from where they're from.

Of course, you're going to stand on shit for him. I don't care what that man. We talk about. But so you got out of prison like right after Pop Smoke got killed, right? Yeah. And like, the King Vaughn. It was mad after when I was in general. even extension

died when I was in jail my boy did Max die when I was in jail Juice World There's a lot of people around that same time Legends I was crying I was crying with Kobe died I didn't even know I was crying too

But you know I'm just such a basketball fan It's like damn You said you didn't know you was crying I was in a box I'm like what the fuck Like oh shit like But it's Kobe Bryant Yeah

Now that one hurt Hey, he died with his daughter, so that was crazy. I was, I was, I was tweaked up that. You remember Meek said he was going to die with a chopper like Kobe? That was a rough day for him on Twitter. Yeah, he said that in the bars, right? Yeah, they weren't feeling that one. We get you Instagram stuff.

I'm just saying, that was a pretty wild lyric. Like, bro, can you say shit to yourself, bro? I'm just talking about some shit that happened in the media. It's an instigame when niggas is a journalist, and then, like, niggas is say some shit, and we kind of got to cover it. Yeah, we got to talk about. I understand that, for me,

but it's like, when you cover certain shit, like, you for me, and then it's like when you instigate it and when you, like, throw sorts of it, like, all right, you put it up there, all right, I don't care, cranks, or whatever. Yeah. And then when you have the interview behind it and they want to bring it up,

it's like, you reach, you're making it something. Like, what's not? You know what I'm saying? But I understand that guy's got a job, I don't know if you're giving a fuck about that for all this, because I'm outside for real. Like, they're going to do this shit

and go home with security. and shit. Man, I'm gonna be out here. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna die. Oh, shit. That'd be all right. Get that, like that.

Oh, damn. Papa. Oh, lo. It's that grabba. Is that grabba? That shit. Boobba in his eyes. Bough.

Um, yeah, I feel like you are still holding on to this, like, old school rapper fantasy where you're going to be able to just say the wildest shit in your music and on social media, and then the media is not going to pick it apart. but that's really what we'd be doing out here. We're putting it together for the people. What you said? I've been home for four years with old school shoot tomorrow.

I feel like you... I'd have been caught on to what's going on. But you want to be able to say whatever and then have us not pick it apart, which I just don't... Like, in this day and age, they're picking shit apart like way more thoroughly

than they ever picked shit apart before. I'm not about it, bro. I don't care. Why do you spend so much time in L.A.? You said you split your time between here in New York? Yeah. I'd be like, I'm like, this is myself from New York. Why?

too messy? I don't know. I just, can't keep people when they tell them. Everybody know what I'm doing.

Plus I got free, shit I'll be doing over here. New York's just like a little shoebox. Everybody's just

kind of cooped up near each other and shit. It's like everywhere I was like once you're in like a certain type of crowd

it's the same thing. Same parties. Same events. She's the same people if you're like and make So How you feel about like the New York scene right now

Like music scene? Yeah, I like it right now Because like for me It's all the sight of new That's gonna keep coming up with me And then right now you've got my beefing Going back and forth It feels like

Getting new entertainment Every second That's cool Do you feel like you've kind of outgrown that shit Because obviously you guys were kind of at the forefront Of the New York drill shit And Now it's like

You know you got a whole new generations i mean shit that was like 10 years ago you got a whole new generations of kids getting into it with each other do you sometimes feel like you're kind of if i'm outside right now right i'm with the pros i'm whoever i'm with right right and they go down right right what i'm supposed to happen like i'm still actively for me so of course i'm still part of this shit like yeah but you also know that if you make a in gdk anthem it's probably going to do numbers but do you really want to like bring yourself back down to that level. I'm not about to do that.

Like, what the fuck is? Like, then I call myself too, because it's like, it's mad GD's around the world. I'm like, I'll be catching myself. Like, I don't be for a GD around the world. So it's like, I don't know. Why would I do that for me? But it's never really, you're basically saying it about whatever city you're in for most people, right? Yeah, I'm like, I'll be in some cities and I see GD's.

I don't care about, oh, you GD? What's that? Like, no. I don't care about that. But if I'm in my city, like, it might go down because they might see me one of those two times. I might see some times

I'm like, I don't go f*** up the niggas of the day. Sometimes the niggas might see the wrong one, though. You know, we call that growth and development. Yeah, so nowadays you're on defense type of shit. Like, you ain't looking for nothing. I'm always on defense, right? I'm looking for any problems for a while.

Like, that's 25 years in jail. Yeah. I'm chilling. But it is? But I'm also awesome. Like, my heart could take, like, me defending myself and got to go sit down. My heart can't take me going out and doing some dumb shit, like,

crashing out like, damn. Yeah, I mean, you've been through too much to, like, drag yourself back down to that level, especially, like, watching the vlogs and shit, like, the one Karen Soville did when you first got home and everything that I was watching last night. It's like, we're seeing you reveling in the fact that you went and did the right thing when you got into the situation. And you came out with just this, like, super positive mentality, the whole world in front of you. We would all hate to see you kind of, like, end up back in some bullshit that is beneath you.

Yeah, me too. You feel like you still get that same support from, like, your peers and shit. Because, like, when y'all first got out of jail, it seemed like everybody was, like, quick to, like, link up with y'all. Niggas were throwing chains on your neck and shit. Like, where, where's that at now? You feel like, I got. Yeah, y'all still. Yeah, I'd be more so, like, on my own, like, where, like, from you.

but like yeah like that ain't about nothing right who you feel like uh was holding y'all down the most while you was uh doing a bit because i seen how he goes like rappers and shit like outside of your immediate circle like for me the whole other nigga that was different like if you answer a phone call that would be good for me like for me yeah whenever a time i reached out to everyone's answer and then you had some time everybody reached out to me like i talk to me go to to fall in jail for me. I had a best conversation with Buster Wiles when I was going to fall in jail.

I had a lot of talks with a lot of people. What kind of advice Buster Arms give you about jail? I can't remember the top of the habit. I remember one thing he always was telling me like, don't go back to like the same negativity and sure for me, like keep my mindset focused. I always like, yeah, I got you. When I came home, it was like, yo, stay focused.

I know how you be here? I said, bus, the way. But the bus had a best convoy because, like, he had sit there for hours with me. I'm like, I'm calling back, but I call me back. Yeah. Like, word. Definitely. Because those are some of the most pivotal ages, like, in your life.

You know, these really important years where most people are developing out in the real world, and you kind of had to do a lot of your growing up, locked in a box, huh? Yeah, I've been in that big six years. Definitely. Do you feel like, because you talk to some people who've done time and they feel like it's still, it's just constantly on their mind.

Do you feel like that, or do you feel like you kind of, it's just in the past? Oh, you always going to have a little PTSD up that shit for me. Like, sometimes I still have, like, dreams, like a nightmare. Like, I would be in my sleep and I'll be in jail or my sleep. sleep. And then I sure feel so real. Like, right when I'm about to wake out, like, the second I'm out to wake up, I'll be feeling like this shit is the realest shit happened and I'll wake up.

I'm like, yo, I was like a dream or a nightmare, you know, for what I'm saying? Because it ain't nothing crazy happening. It's something I've been to, like, for me. Yeah, definitely. Where is you and Bobby's relationship at at this point? That's forever, my brother. Do you guys still talk on a daily basis? She still hang out, much? That's forever my brother. The internet experiences, they think y'all ain't cool anymore because niggas gonna be seeing y'all hang out in this shit.

And there's like a video you was like, if you don't see me with niggas, don't ask me about them. And niggas like, how come you and Bobby don't be hanging out as much? I take everything and taste from where we do. That's the end of it. Go read the comments. That's what they're saying. Yeah, bro, that's for ever

my brother, man. All right, one last time you and Bobby kicked it or something. bro, that's forever, my brother. Y'all still be kicking it, though? Like, nigga, y'all was inseparable. And when we first seen y'all come up, we used to see, you see Bobby, you see Robbie, you see Robbie. Like, all the blogs on the all blocking shit.

And now I was like, damn, we're going to be seeing y'all as locked in as I used to be. Or at least, I guess that's what the internet, saying. That's it. Bro, doing his thing. I'll do my thing. That's my brother forever. Yeah.

That's the root of whack. saying something about him in general too. Remember when Wack was trying to say that Bobby was doing zesty dances and shit? Yeah, I don't remember that. That was a whole thing. He was trying to convince us. This is just Jamaica, bro.

Yeah, how you be feeling about people trying to troll Bobby with the whole zesty shit since he got out of jail? I know you be seeing that. I just realized it's the internet. Yeah. Hell, we can fuck about that shit. Y'all got any, like, music? Y'all did if it come out or something?

I got bad music, too. I just, right now, like, world doing. What can we do to bring you guys back together? I said back together, like, we left. It hasn't, like, got to the level of tension that, like, you guys feel like it would be an option to fix shit? It's not that serious.

It's just kind of, you're just doing your own thing. We're just chilling right now. We're going to get back to basics. Yeah, like an EP with y'all together and go crazy or something, right? I know the fans would be on that shit. No, that would be crazy. Have you done a song together since you got out?

Yeah. Oh, okay. And you just dropped, y'all, I seen Joel Santana drop the song today. It was you, meet Mill, Jim Jones. Yeah, shout out of Joanne. That's a New York Powerhouse right there. That's crazy. And you had one of the hardest verses on there, too.

My, like, y'allel, y'all said New York Powerhouse, like, Meek from Philly, but he's from New York. It do for, like, yeah, you think so, yeah. That's the New York brother now. That's for the New York for sure. Who put that, like, how that, when y'all shoot that video? Shout to, as you been shot, shout to shows. Just I was how to the car I guess he was just working on what he was working on

But he's just dropping out consistently He's just working my hard shot at the house But um We shot that's in the city That's mad generations New York right there too Like Jewel's You on the same song

I mean you guys popped off like Many years apart I used to be watching all that was a kid I used to throw a bandana on like my size Oh yeah You ever go to Santana's town That was his store.

Yeah, I remember that. They had the flags and they land up with the BB bells and all that. I didn't get that. But I'm from Brooklyn. Right. So do you feel like, because it's like, do you feel like the Bronx kind of took the attention away from Brooklyn on the drill shit? Um,

I don't even matter. It's New York. They just kind of freaked it. They did shit different. All of a sudden, they're screaming into the mic. they're like dissing ops on every single fucking lyric kind of made the Brooklyn shit seem a little bit tame

in comparison, which is probably not the worst thing because I know a lot of people don't like Bronxville because it's too fucking crazy. I get in a car and play Jamaica music. So, when I do listen to that movie, I play in the club or I'm with the little brothers

and they play it. I say I don't f*** with it. But does it worry you? You feel like you... I'm my go-to option when I get in the car. Like, when I get in a car, I want to hear my groove, my, would be on my vibe. And the first day I'm going to, I want to hear some Jamaican music. Do you wish you could get by-bye just making, like, you know, laid-back Jamaican tunes?

Do I wish I could get by-bye-bye-making music? Well, I feel like if you were to start strictly dropping Jamaican music, you probably wouldn't get as many people listening as if you drop some hard rap shit. I care. I don't know if I can make a Jamaican song, like a record. I'd be like, I'd try, and I'd be like, nah. I don't like it. for me because I just heard you make a music so it's like I'm trying to make it sound like a little bit

how ready for me but it'll be coming out like that so I'm like man now but I hear you how often you working on music now day I'll be in a few every day I'm about to see after this I just didn't even drop in the minute because like I'm trying to like what I do drop like I want to to make sense so I'm trying to like look for home look for me I just trying to just drop music and just go off that phase. I'm a, so... You said, look for a home? Like, a label?

No, really, so that label. I don't really want to go with a label. Like, I feel like I'm going to do this, like, a nice little... I'm going to do it, like, a single, but I feel like I want to do, like, an EP with somebody for me on an independent tip. Yeah. I don't really want to do too much. I want to just probably do, like, six songs.

Let's see where I go. You want to do it with a road out playing? With a producer or with, like, another artist that you just kind of collaborate with. I don't really got to be too much artists. I'd rather do a producer, but I don't even got to be a big producer either. If somebody just know my

sound. Yeah, if you find the right Jamaican dude to team up with, maybe academics. Let's start with academics. That cool? Yeah, we're going on. Don't we have, like, vloggers beef? We've definitely done that in the past.

But it's different than rapper beef. We are. We are a vlogger, I'm now. I never sent any way to his crib. Well, I'm just saying. Yeah, who you're a vlog, an op, man? My vlog, op. They're all like little boys, you know.

They all that little boys? Like, acts of big dogs. Joe Button, big dog. Vlad, big dog. You know, most of them my ops are, well, okay, Joe Button, you know, we got beef. Why do we feel like why I saw Joey, man? I don't know. I don't think he liked the way I was stomping through starlets, just making it rain

everywhere. He felt kind of bad because he can't do that. Patreon don't run that thick. It's crazy. It's a big half. Wow, you're a fan? You're a J-B-P listener? Who?

Joe Bunn's podcast, you listen to it? I'm not going to lie to it, bro. I don't take my time more day. I don't know. I respect to all your life for me. I respect all y'all craft, but... You ever do a Queensflip skit? I don't even watch my own interviews.

Really? All right. I swear to God Like You've been doing You've been on The interview room Recently though

You pop out and do some Paws and shit Yeah I don't even So you don't see yourself Because you know A lot of rappers Are you know a lot of rappers

To turn into podcasts And shit nowadays You don't see that in your future Um Yeah that's crazy This would be like fun To do Like

It's not fun though Right You think Your rapper aura up I stopped rapper One day Like It's kind of hard to be

Like mysterious and cool when you're just getting on camera and talking about everything under the sun day after day. I don't think you could be Playboy Cardi and have a podcast every week. You know, on some mysterious dark vampire shit. But like you are kind of more of an everyman rapper. Like people just with your vibe. Listen, bro.

No podcast right now. But if I was to do it, I'd do some shit with some ladies. I won't even be on some. like all in people business type of shit. I do some fun shit. Talk about dating. I don't know. There's a lot of dating podcasts out here.

You want to cover topics about other rapists and shit? Man, the fuck I want to be in a nigga's life for me. So like, uh-uh. So you go to do the 20v-1s and shit. You do one of those yet? I know. I know you had to turn it down a few times. Everybody done one.

I don't know about that. You would remember being in the white room I never did that shit But I don't know if I turn it down or not I probably dead by no problem After this someone's gonna ask you to do it on that For sure A 20 versus 1

Yeah I'll be seeing like clips of them shit on Instagram That shit cool I should I don't mind doing one of those I'll see it It's an hour long And I'll be like no Like I'm just not

What the fuck I'm gonna watch Vaughnoff 1700 to a fucking One hour long Pop of the Bull wound. Like, it's just I don't got it in me. I want to listen to Jamaican music. Not really, but

that kind of thing. You see that fly? That's definitely an op. Swarming around. Yeah, so yeah, like, before the interview started, I was talking about the song you did with Pressa and shit. How are you in Pressure get locked in?

Shout to Pressure. Pressure. Pressure. How am I, I personally? I'm not going to play out of L.A. I don't know. I know I met him through the dogs. But once I'm at pressure, we clicked up instantly. Like, it reminded me in one of the bros. And, like, how him and his gang move. So that was just, instead of the family of the rip.

Can you go to Canada? I don't think I could right now. Really? You got my passport, but I think we got to, like, because I'm a feeling, I don't think I could go. Yeah. I try it. People who are not felons be getting turned away at the border.

a bunch recently too. If you know Drake, he might can get you, man. Shit, come on. That's a good idea. We've got to lean on him. Who do you think wanting that Kendrick versus Drake shit that's going on right now? Man, Drake, even though Kendrick won that,

because he played the song at his concert, so I feel like... But at the end of the day, they both make great music, so... That's another reason to link up with Drake so you can go after the West Coast together. Um Do you think that that could ever happen

Where it could be like East Coast West Coast beef What's that what? Like full blanket West Coast Versus East Coast or is that? I don't think it was ever even like that during the two-bub and biggie shit I think it was kind of hyped up in the media Oh man What if I keep calling it?

What if there was a huge bag? What if I get you a bag? Millions and millions and millions of dollars But you got to do a podcast every week with Bobby. Millions and millions and millions of dollars, but you got to do a podcast with Bobby Shmurter every week. Oh, yeah?

That would be enough motivation for y'all to get past whatever you've been dealing with? I don't know what you're talking about, but we could do that. Okay. We could maybe make that happen. I feel like that would be big. I seen a other day I was doing a deep dive before we did the interview. You said that you had recorded computers before y'all did.

Like the day I shot hot niggie, was actually supposed to shoot the video to computers. Yeah. How long you had that song before? Probably. That was too long. Like, probably like a month. Or like,

I bought a ball for a week. Word. So when y'all had shot hot, nigga, did you, felt like it was gonna do what it did? Nah, we was, we didn't, listen, we wasn't even trying to be no rappers and I feel like that.

Like, all, like, life is said that. Like, yeah, like, we were just having fun rapping. Like, you know, like, we was like, yo, we want to be rappers. Like, come like, hey, it was nothing like that, shit.

We just got bored. And it was like, yeah, we go to the studio. But always be free, always be like in the trap, putting on a beat, so, like, he's backing up and shit, don't shit. And niggas just be naturally freestyled on with a beat come on, playing around. So one day, he was like, yeah, we go into the studio.

I'm like, I back. Yeah. Then the song, the block like that. Then the song again, the block like that again. Then we just made that our thing. Like, yo, fuck, we're going to. for studio this week. Like, fucking, for me,

make some new tunes. For me, it's like, while we're making the tunes, like we're making the tunes, like, we have a front-in-the-block dancing to that shit, for me, like, our own shit, because we always be on the block

listen to everybody else songs, you know? And sometimes we listen to niggins, we'd be, like, fake remixing it, putting our own little words in that, you for me. That's what y'all did, because the hot-nigger song

was Lloyd Bank shit, so y'all was trying to remix it? No. You hadn't even heard the original. We didn't even know that song, yeah? We were just on YouTube and just heard a beat. and like are we using that

then we found out it was um boy shit when Jallel hit it's like yo they got a pay for his beat or like Lloyd didn't pay for some shit went down I don't even know

I don't want to talk on if I don't really know about it but do you think that was the beginning in a Brooklyn drill or do you not consider it part of that shit I don't know if I want to call it that because sonically it wasn't like on that kind of beat but conceptually it seems like that kind of set the stage for a

lot of shit that came after that. All right. We want to play that year. We was just talking wild lifestyle. It's definitely like the start of like the Brooklyn drill early on for show. I feel like niggas give you out credit for that. Who was rapping first then though?

Because if you had computers already, you was rapping for Bobby? I feel like, it's hard to tell you because I've been rapping. I feel like I've been rapping. Was I rapping for Bobby all year in a sense? Because like, even though we grow together, we still, like we're stepping away is a little bit in our lifestyle in our life like we grow together as kids boomed and I moved

the way and I came back to the hood when I was like probably 12, 15, 13, 1 of those sheds and then we clicked back up and so it's like I don't know if he was really rapping right there in that period for me but oh yeah he was my fight but I know that doesn't even matter

you know we both was rapping at the same time I just know like we didn't start take it in serious to we saw like when we made the Smiley Dance video we made the

Shmada's video it was like we started seeing the feedback like the kids that come out of school and we're on the blind and they all just come rushing to the blind there'd be a million kids out here like what the hell going on man

from Shmada's it a hot nigger a hot nigga f*** a call Is that shit still hot putting shmah on words, the Shmanyan, the Shmula. We'll say that sometimes.

I say that sometimes just regularly, normally. Like, that's just be my schmool. Like, some of the bro's names is like that, Smarkito. There's no, like, origin of that that was just, you're just having fun with words? Yeah, sometimes. The brothers is, like, some of my friends is Haitian.

Some of them is Jamaican. So it's broken language already. So you'll be making fun of them, like, sometimes. And that could return it to a lingo. But, like, are you dumb? Like, came from, like, the nine, I swear to God. I don't let nobody tell you different. I don't care who in this world.

Really? I see people in the Bronx. We're saying, are you dumb? Like, I think about fucking Cromaz, no. I think about Toronto. That's just like, I'm so used to hearing them say it. I think about 6-9, too. He jacked up.

That's all I'm about to say 6-9. Kind of, like, shot the road with it. He'd be, like, stupid. Coming out of certain people's mouths, it just sounds so zesty. Listen, bro. Are You Dumb came from like a Haitian nigga. Are you dumb? And he was like, could never.

Like, could never, could never. Like, this was like, could never. Like, this is something like, like, bro. But anyhow, yeah. I got a question. Who had the hottest computers remix? Oh. Who had the hottest computers remakes to me?

I think it's your hard, bro. Hmm. How do I mean? How do me think? I got his mad computer remix. You got to give it. You got to give it the whiskey. Woski guy.

I know you heard FBG Wooski computers. Oh, you got to act like you ain't heard it. It's not cool to be down with the Chicago GDs, right? It's the most disrespectful disown to ever come on Chicago, top fog. My brother, I'm supposed to go all my life. I'm going to listen to this one.

Got a lit like, bro. I mean, he really might not have heard it because he was locked up for it coming out and many years afterwards. Even when I heard G. Herbal shit, somebody let me hear it. It's a whole bunch of fiber. It's a whole bunch of firearms. Yeah.

That's crazy. When I heard you heard about shit, I was like, oh shit. Like, I'm going to end, like, I'll be playing it, actually, for me. Yeah. But. Who made that beat? At the time, it was a 14-year-old kid. But I don't remember his name.

He's from a gym. I hope he got rich off it. Shout to, bro. You think you got rich off it? Shit, I'm still making money off of his stuff. He should have made some money off his still. Right. And they ran me down, too, because when they shit,

When I first dropped it, you know, it was a sign. But then when I got signed, that's when he ran down with his moms. And they made sure that paperwork was worth. Well, what I ran into you at? They had run into me. But they got their lives and live. I wasn't trying to cry out. I was just.

How much were you ever having to pay off the beach? No, it wasn't half to pay nothing back because at the time, so it was like I signed that all that happened. But the labels wanted to know who it was anyway for me. Yeah. So. Do you, um... I should have paperwork that comes right.

Right. So who actually coined the, the name, GS-9? Roshawie, Bobby. Like, J-S-9 came from just, like, for me, like, just, like, I selected the line, I selected the field. Like, it just was one of the things, like, where I was all the same, like, it just, and we just, like, branched off from, like, being, like, the GSC and shit. Like, it was just not.

What the GS stand for? God Selective. God Selective. Word. And who was Shitesy, though? That was your home. Shicey was, fine. Shasty was, shit, man.

Shepie was, he was the best friend. I can't even say my best friend. He was everybody's best friend. Where? Yeah. Shastie was one of ones. Like, before his time. You know how Pop was before the time.

Yeah. was just like mad advanced at a young age. Do you think that Pop Smoke gets the respect and the morning that he deserves in New York? His name is still revered to the extent that it should be? Yeah, I feel like, yeah. When Pop Smoke Day Come is lit. It's a crowd. Birthday, it's a crowd.

It's a crowd. I feel like, yeah. It's not a regular party when it's Pop Smoke party. You feel like that might have kind of. of killed some of like drill music in New York's momentum. It definitely took, yeah, it definitely, like, because if pop was alive right now, the New York would be way less than it's right now. I feel like it did take away.

I don't look like the soul in New York a little bit. I mean, it's kind of crazy how, like, even the Cape Flock thing, you know, he's still alive, but he got locked up. It felt like that kind of cooled off the Bronx quite a bit. Like when you take the superstar and remove them, it kind of makes, it makes, makes the energy a little bit less. It'd be feeling like that because like when somebody's up becoming a star too and it's like you already

already got the planet stars already. That's a great planet. Then you take the ones that's like up and becoming rising and so it definitely hurt a little bit more too. I also kind of have a theory that like when somebody dies, their style doesn't really get to be replicated after that. Like somebody really great

like X died and I remember there being a million X clones like while he was alive and after he died. I never seeing anybody really like take his spot. Same thing with Juice World. Same thing with Pop Smoke. It's like there could be like a rapper who's so dope and you'd think that when they're gone, then you might just get a copycat

usually doesn't work out like that. Why would you want that though? But you'd think that there would just be a market that would like be willing to take a copycat, but then they don't. They just reject it. It's like end of an era. It would be a copycat for a bugger. Well I mean

if there's money to be made. Be yourself. Shit, you had made a comment on the King Vaughn and Little Tune situation. And you had said, like, Little Tim shouldn't have killed Vaughn or some shit. And the NBA young boy, he kind of got offended for you speaking on that shit. You and him ever had a chance to talk and, like, piece it up? I didn't ever have to sign of peace out. I didn't even pay attention with that boy was talking about.

So y'all never really ran into each other in the music industry? What about Vaughn? Like, you was cool with Vaughn at one point? You was locked up, darn? I was locked up, though, a violent situation. Where? I've had a bunch of people on the podcast say, you know, Little Tim shouldn't have shot him.

But I feel like when they say that, they're sometimes kind of ignoring how much shit was going on back and forth between them online for such a while leading up to that. That, like, Little Tim must have been super on alert for this specific threat. And they must have known that they were in the city at the same time as them. The other day, they played on how it played on. We can't even. I shouldn't even

spoke on that shit but I was just saying how I felt like I was in that situation like I would have just fought for me because like I think about we'd be rappers and shit

like let's just duke it out like from that like we made that the other day like we had a confrontation but on the flip side of it King Vaughn got this reputation of doing shit to people

so maybe yeah I understand that I mean yeah I mean I mean Brooklyn would you say it's still the type of place

where you could have a fight to settle your issues, or is that era over? It depends, though. Like, if it's already blood drawn already, then it's too late. But if I have a competition with a certain rapper, and we see it to have a club or something, are we going to get it on right now? Whatever that means. We're going to fight right now.

Sometimes somebody might pull out, somebody might happen, but, like, I feel like I'm going to get along with you right now. But I feel like you, You kind of come off like you've matured enough that you don't really want to engage in this shit as much. Like you don't want to have to feel like you're always on the verge of having to get into a situation with somebody. But then at the same time, you have these expectations that people have on you because of the reputation that you've built for yourself. And so it's not easy for you to just be like, I feel like there's part of you that would want to be like, I don't have any ops anymore. but then I feel like

reality isn't going to allow you to really have that position okay I mean I wanted to say that but I don't know I can never say that because I just went to one spot and I was in Atlanta soon I got it and I seen niggas

I'm fucking and it was just like immediately just like oh that's probably trying to set up a yeah Possible so was that is Atlanta

is that shit that like happened from you having beef with niggas in Atlanta or that's like niggas from New York we traveling and y'all running from the other houseb type of shit. Niggas from New York that's a man.

Let's get a getaways. You could be a FYBJ Maine and just make a cereal and push peace. Oh yeah, yeah, that's why it's on. Right there, this is what peace looks like. All right, but... Maybe.

What push piece and shit? Through cereal. I'm all about peace and shit. What do you mean? I'm the chewing. I think We need all of the Brooklyn gang members to get together and solve their problems over a bowl of cereal. Or even if it wasn't cereal or, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you think, like, the same way they just had the peace walk on Compton, you think it could be something like that done in Brooklyn or New York? They can come together and shit? Right now, the young generation, I don't know, bro. Like, they can go off flying this shit right now. So it was like, you've got to have whoever they listen to it, try not. Yeah. What made you want to go do a song with Skrilla?

Scrilla. Skrilla. Scrilla. The Skrilla? Yeah. On your YouTube, I saw you did a song with him, right? Skrilla. Yeah.

For Philly? I'm going to be horrifying, if I'm wrong, but... Do you some of Shkilla? Skilla Baby. SMH. I guess my eyes just kind of glazed over that and read Skrilla without clicking. My apologies to Skrilla and Skilla, Baby. I'm going to Skilla to...

My son Johnny Snipes. Shout out Johnny Snipes. Great guy. Yeah. Kicked up my boy right there. Clicked up from there, Matt. We did this song. For me, that's my birthday.

Even when he pop up to New York and shit. So. How do you pick what artists you want to collaborate on? So you don't drop videos that often, so it's kind of a big decision. I, like, if I f*** with you, like, I got, like, vibe with you. Because I had to type to be, like, reach out.

If I do reach out to those songs, like, I really want to do something for my project or something like yeah but like if you if i choose a rapper or if somebody put me on a little bro link up it all gotta make sense you know like I don't mind working with my own not working with nobody for me like I don't care to not work with nobody familiar if it makes sense I don't mind like so you ain't got no like uh a future like artists that you want to work with like a list of people that you like dream features or whatever dream yeah like Anybody like...

I want to say dream was like At this point right now I just face reality But like if it don't make sense What about Vibbys Cartel? Shout out to Vibos Cartel It was free to one done Him getting free is that exciting Because people were telling me like this is as big

As if Drake was locked up for 10 years and got out And I'm like, whoa, I have no idea It's way big in that Looks like if JZ was locked up for 10 years Wow really Yeah look at this is Vibs Cartel This is the dawn of Jamaica. Like, you gotta understand, like,

picture you listening to, like, his music for, like, let me see, yeah, like a crazy, like, like a 10-year-run. But I say you would listen to it as a K-My age in the clubs everywhere you go. And then now it just stops. But it's like, the one nigga that's making all this music that's putting all these Jamaica artists on,

that's making a bus that's on now. For me, it's different. It's a different feeling for Jamaica, like, for my family, for, like, people I see in my neighborhood in Jamaica. Like, this car town's home. Did you feel differently about his music once you realize he was really out there killing people? It's really. Yeah, bro, what are you talking about? That made you, like, more or less?

Yeah, he said the wildest thing. Well, he just did, like, 10 years for it, right? Yeah. Would you mean? He'd be killing people that. Well, I mean, that's what he went down for, right? That's a car town is chilling, bro. He's not doing that, bro.

Did it kind of fuck you up when you saw him get out, and his body was looking kind of, uh-uh? Well, I just pray for my boy. Pray for his health and shit. For sure. That video was looking crazy. That thing in the gym. I mean, he got a little, you know, his body.

Yeah, I've seen that. Something's going on. I don't really understand. So break down the day. Y'all had got arrested. Y'all was at Quad Studio? Yeah. Yeah, so y'all was in the studio, break that down. Like, y'all was just recording and the niggies just ran up in there?

They put Sean Money in that position, man. He's trying to stay out that shit. We were just recording. One of the bros just leaving. Yeah. What's crazy is, I'm just, let me break this down to you. We get a phone call. We go in the studio.

We get a phone call. Yeah. And things like, yo, the bro just got locked up. Bring some cord or something. the precinct. So I look like, I had bat. So a couple of the brothers leaving and they go get some quarters to bring us to the precinct. When they go outside, the car get pulled over. But we upstairs, I can see orders out the window. Like, somebody here at the window, like, yo, come, come, look, they just pull forward our car over. So we look at the one. We see the

bro getting pulled over. You see them getting locked up. We see them talking to them. The next thing, you know, we look in, but you see, like, too big, like, Like, you know, like the U-Ha trucks, the big U-Ha trucks? Yeah. You see, like, these shit's open up, like, FedEx, all types of shit. And, like, mad people hopping out. When we look at it, when they, like, putting, like, police gear on, like, running towards a building. So I'm like, what the fuck going on?

So when they all rushed inside the building, we ran to, like, the office where you can see the cameras. Yeah. And they all are their pressing an elevated by, pressure the elevator bar, pressure to the elevator bar. and they're like getting on the elevator, but you can't come up to cars without the key. So they're on the elevator, they're on the elevator they're like, they're deep, they filled the elevator up to capacity.

So I'm looking, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, oh, these niggins are just trying to act us, bro. Me and this bitch, hella deep, hell of shit in here. I'm like, yo, I went back to the brothers, I'm like, yo, police come up and stay that they're trying to run down and I'm trying to die this.

They're gonna put out of here. Everybody started scattering out of the whole building, right? We're on a 12th floor? No, we're on a 10th floor. So, look at my own story, surely. They finally get somebody with the key to get upstairs. They all through the building. But I'm on the seventh floor.

I'm a hotter. O.D. You got hit at? I'm on the fifth floor. I hide on this vent. So basically, they had, like, a vent on the wall. So, like, but, like, it wasn't, like, because it wasn't attached.

to the ceiling though yeah it was just like a vent going from out the wall to the next wall I jumped to the side of the war climbed up that shit boom what top of the vent I was just sitting there I'm sleeping there like it's like five o'clock of the morning and I wake up they rush just by like 12 o'clock and we're like so you was hiding out for like five hours but I woke up like five o'clock I got the run to outside I got like 8,000 hours my pocket, I'm like, I bet. I'm like, as soon as I get out this bitch, I'm going straight to the rental, I'm driving straight to my ear and me straight to

my ear and me, straight to me, leaves out, coming out of steps. Freeze, get the fuck on the ground. Freed, get the fuck on the grass. Don't fucking move. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Damn, I thought I got away. But they already knew I was in the building.

Oh, shit. They already knew. Bobby was in the building, too, or? How long a nigga here? for it before he got, Lord. It was like a minute. He didn't even running hard. He just had a nigga been through the system right so much. She's like, all right, what's going on? What's up?

Yeah. Me? I'm like, nah. Because it was like a video because I wouldn't have thought you hid because like in the video, it seemed like, oh, y'all, you were the one covering your face and shit? It seemed like they caught you all at the same time type of shit. They brought me to the prison. I was later. Yeah. And then

they held us, went through children of prison from every day. And then they did all the paperwork, you and everything. questions, everything. Still a piece of what day. Like, a whole day. Like, yeah, all day. And the late time they won the song.

Yeah. Do you feel like that was kind of the beginning of a trend in a way with, like, rappers basically having these Rikos put on them and having these big-ass investigations being launched? Yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah, I started that because, but

when we make it bad, we're out laying that big, so. I feel like it might be late for it. I feel like. Break down the famous scenario because, like, Bobby Smurter, get a lot of credit because he took more time for you to get out. Yeah. So break that down. Like, how was he able to take more time for y'all to get less time?

Basically, the judge wanted, basically, I think the judge and DA want him to do more time because he was only getting five years at first. Yeah. And I was going to get 12. So it was like. Because you had different charges? Why do you have more? Yeah, I had way more charges. I had 10 murder, three gun charges.

You had that 10 murder and three gun charges? Yeah, gang conspiracy. He had a gun charge and gang conspiracy. So, but there was like, forget giving me 12. They were like, we're off of you seven now. If he forget taking five and take seven. So I feel like they just went to the real one. Yeah.

So when you heard the news, he told you in advance, like, hey, I'm from the. take more time? No, we was right there when they did that shit. Oh, right? It was Friday. And we were supposed to go to the court Monday. They just woke us up on Friday morning.

Like, yeah, you got a court. I'm like, how? I called my lawyer. He's like, yeah, we go on the court. I'm going to talk to you and get here. So we get the court. Like, yo, he's on the table right now for y'all. He came to their salary.

Like, we all are like in a bullpen. Every part of the Cody's in a boatpan. He came. He talked to us. He like, yo, this is what they are for me. what I just told you and take it because we were going to take the 12

and the 10 I'm like oh look all I go to fitness we were going to take a certain time just so broke to take the 5 and get up out of it for me because shot bro's like only way he could get the 5 is if we all take a certain time 12 and we're about to 10 so it was like

he was like I think we're going to just take it so broken he got out of it everybody was with it though everybody said Quino Quino was like now I want to tribe, bro. So, it was just, they spit us up. It was mad of us, but they put us in groups.

So my group was me, Bobby, Monte, and Quino. We were Mitch at in this situation? Mitch was in the different group. Mitch was in, like, Deboe only had what? He did five years. He had what?

Chargers he hired. I forgot what charges he had, but he did five years. He wanted to do five years. But. So Mitch is out too, though? Nah, Mitch got a lot back out right now. out for a term murder right now.

Oh, where, a different, from an old different scenario. Yeah. Damn. Allegedly. I didn't know that, yeah, for sure, allegedly. But that's what you just charged with, whatever.

Right now, yeah. Because a lot of people were saying that, because when Bobby Smurter made a song, in the song, he said, Mitch caught up body about a week, and they felt like that right there was kind of dry snitching and kind of put the odds on y'all even more.

You feel like that? Well, not really, because they was already watching us for a year ago, and unfortunately, And I wish they're going to jump on our bodies. Yeah, definitely. Okay, just to go to current events, there was a video I don't know if you saw.

It's called Roddy Rebel by an L.A. rapper named Alshan Martin that came out yesterday on World Star. Who? This is this dude Alshan Martin. He's the big-ass L.A. Hoover dude that used to be running around with 6'9 out here. He put out of this song called Routy Rebel. Filmed in Brooklyn. Well, all right, cool. I don't know exactly where.

I accused him of filming at 5 in the morning. He got kind of mad at me. Do you have to check that out? I don't even know what you're talking about right now. Wow, that's crazy. You must have, you must be, like, kind of closed off because that came out on World Star and nobody alerted you to it. Nobody even watched it.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm on YouTube and look. I'm going to YouTube and look. I'll say what I just saw it on YouTube. listen to you. Jamaican music? I know it. You a Dragon Ball Z fan? Yeah.

All right. I'll fuck out of it, too. I never seen that. You got the Dragon Wall Z-K. Oh, shit. Oh, no, look, I'm lying. I was just listening to D-Bails, matter of fact. D-Babby? Deep Bills.

Oh, D-Bills. Yeah. Nice. See, so, okay. Before that, I was listening to a, but. You're still a rap fan, deep down and side. When's the last? Oh, I was the rap still?

Who's the last new, New New York rapper that really made you feel something like ooh that's so hard I got to drive around listening to that or does that not really happen? Um, I'm gonna lie to. The last song that made me want to like just. Dealing too was A. Buggy and Casco Bain. Oh, so you f*** with the sexy drill shit? All that.

Yeah, that's your all right? What song? That. All right, for sure. Is that shit really taking over in New York? You hear that banging out all the cars and shit? or is it still kind of a niche phenomenon? It's where we want to play it, man.

Because that would be great if the future of popular music made by young dudes. In a club, in a club is little, D. I mean, anything that would be, like, less killing and more just having a little fun. Seems like a good trend. We've got to get behind. You could get on that wave, or would that be deep-riding if you just became a sexy drill rubber? Why would that be down? Just jumping from trend to trend, jump to the new shit.

Oh, like, all my brothers, if you're like, go jump on this sexy jail track, I'm going to jump on it. I'll hop on it. Yeah. Yeah, no, you're a catch command and should do some shit. I'm my brother. I just sent him some signs, too. Where are you knowing from? For music.

What about, because, like, when you first came out, then Thug gave you some chains and all the type of shit, they iced you up? Or was it Quaybo? I know, I know. Shout to Thug, Thug, Fri-on Thug, man. How do you feel about what he's going through with the Yassel Rico and all that? I don't know. I'll be looking at that shit. I mean so sad for the bro, but I know he's going to, I know he's going to pull through this, bro,

because I feel like they're just real-rolling him. I feel like this shit is like, just some big, like, movie right now. Big fucking scam they're doing right now. Because for you to like this man up over some words on a song. Yeah. They got a lot more than that. They really went off the songs, though, bro. But they got YS.O. Woody, the most entertaining witness I ever seen in my life.

That's what it really makes it feel like a movie Because this guy does not seem like a person Who would normally exist in real life He seems like a character who was invented for a movie No offense So what you think young thug Initially ended up being in charge with For somebody who'd been through the system

And kind of know how to... I don't know what I don't know That's Atlanta rules Yeah I'm in for myself to come home What about Gunna? You and him? Y'all still got a relationship? I fool got it still

I still feel gonna I understand something like All the gunner day was take a plea Then I took a plea done I'm alright Like I'm gonna fucking right Like So like

All he did was take a plea down It's just looking bad Because he said on a plea down And what he had to say But if This is whatever he says Plead can't Hurt none of his

Co-defenders Or they can't use it against him My nigga's mad for you for me Like Why you think young thug is mad at him? I don't know Like that's the best person The only way I see him

mad at him is if his statement can hurt him. If his statement that his cop-out can hurt him and make him go to jail for that, then, hell yeah, I'll be mad too. You'll be a right of my eyes. But if I cop-out and my name saying my cop-out, I'm on some paper that my cop-out and I'm taking my charges for my crimes can't hurt you, then it's a cop-out. All right, let's put the scenario like this. So say you and Bobby was in your situation, and Bobby's telling the judge that GS9 is not a gang, it's a record label, and then you go on there and say... No, I'm not jacking on.

But that's the situation that happened with Gunna and Thug, where Thug was telling him that YSEL is a record label, was not a game, and then Gunna went on there and said it was a gang. I didn't know it was a time. Yeah. I thought that was... So do you consider that?

Because it kind of like, from Thug's perspective, he looked at that, he's looking at it, like, maybe bro heard his plea, because like, from the leaked audio calls, Thug was saying, like, he was calling him a f*** nigg. shit on the phone to Dirk. So it seemed like he ain't fucking gonna. So like

do you consider that snitching since he hurt his plea in the way? If he's saying G.S. 9's not a gang. If that shit can send him to jail? Yeah, that's OD. Yeah. If I can say him brought a jail higher, yeah. I thought that, I thought, because I ain't really

even, I haven't been paying attention to I should stay on shit either. Yeah. But I just look at it as a cop-out. Like, if I cop out and they say my cop-out can't hurt you or my cop-out is not used against this shit, it's just my cop-out. Yeah. I shouldn't see nothing wrong with that.

But don't you, when you cop out, if you and your boys are in the same case, y'all were, like, talking in advance and kind of have, like, some type of understanding, like, y'all'm from to take this plea, right? Somewhat? Yeah, but every situation, like, even on my case, a couple of girls copped out without you even knowing. Without knowing? Yeah, but

oh, we just know when they copped out, we're being smart about it, for me? But did any of the shit they coped out to hurt any of y'all? No. Oh, where? No. It's all over what you cop out to. But, like, that's just, I don't know, like,

in that situation with Thongyang Ghana, I feel like that was like, don't tell him that for me, so it won't look bad at his eyes. But if it can't hurt him, then he still is probably just mad like, oh, nigga. Like, say, like, it can't hurt him,

but he still didn't want that to happen. Yeah. I could be mad at that for him, but would I be mad at him? I understand. Like, nah, because it can't hurt him. He's not telling on this man. He's not stitching on this man.

But if he's telling the stitching on this man, then, nah, I can't, I can't look at the brother's saying for me. All right. And I feel it. It's crazy to think Gunna's had a couple years now, just being out, having a good time, and thugs just stuck in that box slash the courtroom. Yeah, OD.

Yes. That's nasty. A waste of life. One of the greatest artists of a lot time. Yeah, that's nasty. How often you talk to meat meal like nowadays and shit? I ain't talked to make a little minute That's because I've just been so like

On my own like For me But I could tap up with a brother How you'd be feeling When you be seeing them Like drag him through the mud With the ditty shit Trotling him and all types

Yeah I said the same shit I'd be like yo this internet is Unnefeated It really is Everybody got a pain for me So you just can't study that shit too much Yeah Do you ever get to spend much time around Diddy

I've seen Diddy probably like except at home my life about three times he never invited you to a party he's a head man just just wondering I went to a ditty party though in the city like it was a club

it was like one of the matchy party early I never met to like one of his like party in his crib it was crazy I would have ran to a ditty party prior to all this yeah I would have been so excited hell yeah I'm a party with some famous people finally I would have got

to like the rancher parties and shit I look like, nah, it's gonna be elite bitches there, it's gonna be one of here. It'll be what I ain't never seen. Did you see the, it was like a viral video of like, uh, Diddy Son throwing up some gang signs and shit? You seen that? Oh, yeah, I just seen that

yesterday, like, scrolled on Instagram because I've been so much of my phone on this, I'm a little serious and watching. How do you feel about shit like that when you see, like, Diddy Sun possibly being in the gang now? He probably was just doing that in a picture. I don't know. If it is about it, that's what he want to do with us.

That's on him, bro. You respect people that join gangs as full-grown adults? I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to. Like, can you not even say, respected. I don't even give a fuck. But if I'm going to look at you serious, yeah.

Not also, like, serious or game. just want to be the homie eye cool granted you could be doing different so you could provide you can be like you're a mastermind for me so it's like you ain't got to be a banger in life for me but but to want to join a game this time it's like why would you like it's kind of odd yeah it's a date man coming for you what do you uh did you hear yadi saying that Atlanta is more influential in terms of fashion than new york yeah a lot of people didn't like that too much and nobody like it's like it's like I He said that as like, we're not the flyers then.

For me, I'm not the flies either. I don't even care for that. To say, like, Atlanta is just like, why would you want to say that? Or New York, but I'm like, pigeon names, bro.

Do you feel like Atlanta is, you know, at one point Atlanta was, like, dropping, like, every month, or not every month, but, like, every year they had, like, a hot new rapper. You feel like Atlanta lost that wave? When I heard people saying that,

I was like, oh, shit. Are we really at the end of an era? Like maybe Atlanta has kind of cooled off all of a sudden because I'm not really like thinking about it year by year, but it did feel like it was this unstoppable run and now maybe it's kind of slowed down a little bit. Yeah, like it hasn't really been any new like mainstream artists that just probably every year they have one.

Like even with New York right now, what do you think New York is missing right now to get shit going where it need to be back in New York favor? I have no idea, papa You think he's just old with What would you fly in New York need though Sometimes I'll be wishing real rap Come back like

Just straight bars or just straight like Raw shit like we had that time of era Like people just want to dance Just want to have fun Drink 42 Bitch just want to twirt So it's like We're making bitches twirt

You still having phone with this rap shit? Yeah, I mean, like, in there, him and there, yeah. I'll still make money up in, so yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't really excite you the way it once did, maybe?

It just, not how exciting it, it's just, should be white, bro. Liggas be fake. Should be wild, shit. When we start really getting to know the business, it's like,

people just always want something for you. Everybody always grabbing. I just got to know. She's got to take it how it is Bobby said shit that made it sound like his label shit was f***ed up and that made him not motivated to drop. Is there any... Are you even on a label at this point?

No, I'm on a label. Okay. You wouldn't want it? You don't think that's for you? Yeah, well, I'm like, my next big hit. I'm not on the label right now. Just to sit there. Yeah. You're still working on the next big hit, though? Is that like a goal of yours? Just to have a big... I don't want to put that on my head tomorrow.

I just, I go make music, I'm gonna have fun. It's gonna be creative. But how motivated are you right now, like, with music? Like, you said you in the studio every day, right? Yeah, for me. I'm saying motivated how I am now. Like, for me, I'm just, this is my craft. Like, that's what I like to do, so I love to do, for me.

So I'm always gonna do it. You still be hooping and shit? My knee f***ed up right now. Word. Are you fucking the y' up? I don't even know. The last time I was playing, I was actually out here playing at a gym, at UCLA, gym.

A bit of insane and sense. I've seen Kevin Durant give you his props. He was the name in, like, top five entertainers. Oh, yeah, shout out. He said, like, he put, you, Chris Brown. It was like three other people, but you were going on. I wouldn't get busy, though. I just wouldn't have known you were that serious if I didn't hear KD said.

You see how Gilly and Kay tried to, like, bash me. Now, what Gilly said. I didn't see what Gilly said. He said. I got bribed him. Oh, y'all played? Yeah, we had played in New Orleans. Rock for an eye day.

Yeah, who won? He must have. He must have. Yeah, they won by one point. Oh, word. He had the last two free throws. He had a good game, though. He probably had, like, 20 some points.

I had 26 on the niggas, though. I had 26 points, like, 7 to 6. So you always were, like, an athlete grown up and shit? Yeah. I used to play high school ball, everything. All the annuals, several tournaments every summer, winning leagues. Cause I seen you said like a dad, he's still like, to the day, play softball and shit.

Well, my parents play softball every week. Word. So your paps was in your life? Hey, my pauses my life was a baby tonight. Word. Shout out Papa, throves. Popolati. We call him Popolati.

Based on everything you know about life at this point, would you rather be rich or famous if you could only choose one? Just rich. Famous is like, you always get into some shit like. It's supposed to. Like, I'd be in spots, and they were like, yo, you can't come in, but you can't come in. I'm like, that's a headache. Then I'd be not at spots, and then I'd go down,

and my people really, like, everybody has people. Like, what the fuck? So it was like, it's like, it has its parts. So just to avoid that, it's like, I just take the money. The money are going to make you famous still for me. That's crazy, though, because there's a lot of people who've got money that are basically just spending the money to try to keep up the idea that they're famous.

or even that, like, you're gonna have the money, right? And how you bought, how you put yourself around, what you do to make you famous? You got knickers that's just on Instagram that's famous, like, just for being on Instagram. You've seen the motherfucker going viral for drinking the tiny bottles of Don Julio?

Don, Don, Don, Don, they've got the Don, look with Don. That's my son. I'm getting him to come through, bro. I've seen him on my store on Instagram yesterday. I was just watching that shit for like 15 minutes straight. Just all different videos of him drinking that little bottle. He's most right. He's in the yard. He's funny.

He's in Brooklyn? I don't know he's probably from him. I know he'd be outside. I always went like he's in Brooklyn. I don't know what it is. We run into that, I like it all the time. Oh, okay. How you know brick, baby?

You been in on no more? I'm not outside. I'll be outside. A long time ago? Nah, for being outside. All right. In the spots. for me

I'll be outside Who you kick it with in L.A.? Who's your actual friends out here? My niggas are from New York but like my L.A. Niggas, I'll be on here so I don't need to tell you that but you know who they are? Right.

For sure. So is the L.A. tap-in thing or thing? Like when you come out here and niggas got a tap-in type of shit? I said if you want to do that. I, I met I met him out for just being out. I met him through my bows.

but I'm not about to just go type in with somebody I don't know that's not smart like no I'm gonna tap it in with why I'll feel it When we tap in and try to rob my eyes It's what to do something to me No

But that ain't the thing in New York Like nigs ain't got tapping when it's gonna Who? You forever you f*** with If you're gonna If you're gonna call them up For me If I f*** with some niggas

If I could tell you I'll fuck with you like Yeah I'm gonna call you Like me spurt you like I don't got to You know Situating me like Yeah But I read that

I don't understand what the tap in mean. Like, you gotta go, what's that mean? Like, what does the top in, like, I got a call, something like that I don't know. And just like, you know, I'm in your city. Like, I'm in just showing my love. I'm in your city. Like, what that means?

That's what I take from it. A favor for a favor. You might need something while you're in LA. They help you out. And then when they get to New York, they might need something. I feel like you don't got a reason to tap in unless you got something worth taking. I'm saying, like, what's the tap in the mean, though? What does that mean?

I always heard that from a kid like tap in meet a member of a gang and kind of tap in with them and have them protect you while you're moving around that's what people might want to like act like it's something different than that

but that's basically what people are insinuating I think and when you put it like that it's like oh yeah I don't want to do that but it's like if you want to be in the club in L.A. with all your chains on and shit yeah you're kind of opening a can of worms, who knows what could happen if you

moving around a little too loose, you know? I feel. All right, what you got coming up? Anything big we need to know about? Yeah, I just got a tour. I'm about doing my Caribbean tour. I'm about to drop a tape, too, for me, back to the streets part two. And then, yeah, I'm trying to find a home, like I said,

drop a couple tapes with it in the pen and tail. I'm going to see what's going on. I actually just told my own manager, too, like, we had a big talk. I was like I might to start getting into acting for me. I'm about to really take actor serious. I was doing that when I was a kid. I feel like I want to get back on that because I watch TV. I love shows.

I love for me. I'm like studying actors. I love for you. Tell 50 put you in one on power. Spinoff. Yeah. I've been trying to tell a little. Every time I see that, man.

You down to take like acting classes and actually go like try out? Some niggas just went the roll Without the Yeah, that's what I had a big serious talk Like, I'm for like the age I'm going to take some classes Yeah I've been taking a row of one or two classes already

So I already know how that classes go for me So it was like I gotta take the full like six-month class now But But shit show The shit show All right Yeah, we appreciate you coming in

Yeah, what's all Great interview Legendary man himself I feel like You got to keep going hard with the music. Yeah, yeah. I think you've still got some juice left in you. I think the reason why I haven't dropped like that recently just not,

because like I said, I want to make it make sense, and I want to put a girl roll out playing by it for me. So, like, after I do that, like, I'm definitely about to start driving music, and especially when I come off my Caribbean tour. Like, for me, I'm more shit to say, more should to talk about it. For me, more experience, more, I mean, like, for me, more shit to talk about it, Like, basically, I'm gonna have, bro, I got a mad music right now, so I'm gonna have at least three EPs on standby after I drop an EP.

Mm. All right. For me? So. Let's go. All right. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, Remo.

Roddy Rebel. Good up the five, knick. Pow, pow. Yeah. I know that got the file came from us, too. All right? Come on. I like, you don't know, man.

Yeah. You know, look, go to my son, Quanto, Page, or Shmitey, shmony, right? right and I just go down to find it and I'm like a quote on how that 30 sound he's like pahoo bhawn a nigga right that's why I always like a clip bye and like when we got locked up a switch a guy like it was like how much was it was like 19 months on the case so when we got locked up like we all in the jail and like we all cause in trouble that we all go to the box so like we be in the box the box is basically like the same way how the crib is set up But you just can't come out your side.

It's just a crib for that. So the niggins will be on the top tiers and their side of the bars and the niggas be in their side. And like, lookers will wake up like, yo, and all the homies are like, pow, pow, paw, p, p, cow, cow, pah. Yo, what's the word, bro, yo? Like, that would be the green.

That's how you wake up. It's like a chicken in the morning. Or the rooster. Like, say like the bottom tear, go out for right, first, you, for me, and then the top tier come out after. So while the bottom tear out there, Like, niggas will be waking up. They're going to window like, yo,

like, oh, all right, who are out there? Like, yo, let's see if the bro's out there. It's just like, like, like, how the other homies call in their homies. Like, you have the bloods, like, oh, dude. And they're like, I'm there. And like, for me, that Jess will respond. You have to, hey, they lay y'all. Always lay on.

Like, that's your thing that's called. Like, you see who I'm talking to now. Yeah. You're talking to, ah, all right? You're outside early, boy, you're getting his son. So it's just like that. So now, when we heard it in the 10. I was like gritpah.

Everybody said gripa. I was like, all right, come on now. Like, good props to who starts to grip up. Like, you feel me? Yeah, because like, when you call back home, it's like, like, what's going on?

Like, it's just mad funny and madly. Like, just a caller, just to greet him. All right. All right. Get up out of here. Six and I got a million dollars for you right now and do a future from doing it. No, no, I'll smock to shout that.

Oh, man. I'll take that little money. All right. A million, though? I'm telling you. I'm not, I'm not clear that. Give me that. I'm not cold out.

He says no good. I'm not Goddak. I feel it. I feel it. I feel like shout out the Kodak for me. I'm not a Kodak though. I'm rowdy. I'm not taking that.

You know why I'm not taking that is like for me like what I'm supposed to do, make a video with you too now? Like I'm supposed to stand next to you and chill with you. I don't want to chill with you. I don't want to stay with you. So I'm getting cheese out of the rat. That's the bro. Like me, shout out the Kodak, like I said.

We haven't seen Six and I do anything with any rappers since then. I think that scared him straight, made him realize it ain't worth. it these dudes even if you get in the same room as them they're gonna find a way to clown you hurt I feel it though he said I ain't cut at a million and a lot to turn down though yes I be found myself later on still yeah even people around me like though you're bunk and should have that one that's quick admin quick but still like what I'm about like for myself while I feel it I mean you sat down for seven years for your respect right yeah and I even I just

on the M too. Yeah, this didn't even be dragged through my, like, my prize, I don't think Kodak got that much backlash, though he did for a little bit, but, like, niggas is coming on. But also, he's Kodak. He's kind of like. That's Roddy, Roddy.

I know, I know. But I'm saying, like, Kodak is Kodak, and kind of, he took a hit, but I think he did the calculations. He was like, I'll be all right. Yeah. But also, that's, he's not from the city. Yeah, they're a different because you're from New York, too.

New York got a way different level of inspection on that shit. And it's like, the Lickon's my life. Like, like, Mm. All right. Free shoddy. Right. Right.

Like, your body, like. Right. Mm. How long he got that? Like. I don't even know,

but I got some joints. Yeah. Even with, remind of what they did because I hear people like, look what they did to him now. Shut up. You're talking about your bitch eyes.

Like, why are you doing this to you? People treat me like I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I don't, I don't think Shottie hits terror. First of all. First of all. I don't believe it.

First of all, of course you're going to have niggins to you at least really not your niggins, you feel me? Yeah. You know these wasn't your niggas like that? For me, because if my niggas are nicking, for me, we do it like, like how many, like,

niggas ain't doing that to me. Like, my friends ain't doing that to me. Playing with me like that stuff. What friends are my doing that? But do you fault them for, like, doing all that shit, knowing six, nah, not from where they're from? And they're doing all the crimes. I'm the day, man, niggas just being niggas.

Yeah. Fuck you turn out. Like, I'm the big homie. You, out of my shit, you rap and pay up. Yeah. It's just niggas being niggas. Like, you ran into one of them. Filed grimy niggas.

Filed Brooklyn, niggas. Niggas. Noges be five, bro. I mean, it's be grimy. Yeah, we won't be hearing no six, nine, Roddy, wherever. Maybe in the old folks home.

You're like 60-something, maybe. No. I don't know. I was a five board, man. Appreciate you. Roddy. Rimo. My guy, no jumper, coolest podcast, like, comment, subscribe.

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