No Jumper - Roy Woods on Running Away From Home, Wanting to Quit Music & Touring With Drake

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

Roy Woods talks about his upbringing, finding his sound, his relationship with Drake, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank, No Jumper, sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And my man has actually been here before at No Jumper, maybe not in this building, but you've actually came to No Jumper before, man. We've got my man of Roy Woods in the building, man. How you feel? Good, man. It's a beautiful day, Don. It's the last name, Woods, because you like to smoke a bunch of woods or is that actually your last name?

I mean, I just want to know. That's what people usually think, you know. Yeah. The name actually came from somebody who, lived on my block and we went to the same school because we want to be living in the same building we were never like we never were like friends we're mutual friends we had because we had the same friend group and shit you know what I'm saying but he was like just a kid I used to just see around you know play ball like whatever you know and then

my my previous name was actually pressure and short for depression right because I was on some I'll just on some different that I'm always on some different you know what's was never your last name no no no no no never so I had no relation to me at all at that time so one day I was dropping music dropping music in school and then I was but I mind you I was a rapper before right so when he came up to me in school after I'm dropping music he's like yo like your music is like it doesn't really it's not really matching because you're rapping right now not like I'm singing now like everybody knows so I'm like okay what you want me to do so I change my name he's like yeah like so I'm like okay what should I change it to you and then right away like

that like he premeditated it or something he's like Roy Woods so that I was like okay okay, we took a survey around school, run around, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people liked depression, but more people were liking where it was. And then there's one little light skin thing, and she was like, she liked it. And she was like a sweetie, you know what I'm saying?

Oh, you like it? Well, I say, last. It's a popular man with the chicks, huh? You know what I knew everybody. I knew everybody, you know what I'm saying? You know what I liked it? I liked it. Yeah, Doug.

So, you know, it was from that, I was like, okay, you know what? I'm a rock with that name. And I was still rapping, but I kind of weaned into trying to sing more. So I would try to like sing my hugs and rap my verses, but then it just became like me started making this complete R&B song So you feel like yeah, so you felt like add more of an R&B feel to it it was It was a lot softer when it was received

You know what I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know people will hear your name it wouldn't come off as hard and then they turned the music on and his over here singing his hat-off You know what I'm saying? like pression like really good with the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I mix I was good to mix it too and I learn how to be able to I turn it to a hybrid just from that just I'm having my name you know so it was it was cool random you know like usually you get you choose your name out of something but somebody just gave me my name I don't know where you know so where you're from church I'm from Toronto in a suburb called Brampton yeah um so you got a little accent to you I'm a little bit I mean I've heard them from all over different parts you know what I'm saying

from the east to the west to down south you know so yeah you got a little different lingo on man a little bit a little bit because you know um where i'm from it's like very heavily Caribbean influence you know yeah the patois the Jamaican influence is huge on our culture back home so you know you're gonna find like you're gonna find like the the Asian guy the white guy some Hispanic people some you're gonna find him speaking like you know talking that that's why Drake be trying to come to that shit I see why he'd be trying to come with that shit he'd try to sprinkle it in and little shit everybody got it broke it down he was like everybody does that makes sense when I be hearing it is tracks I be like what's he on did he go to

Caribbean for a little bit you know he says that care of feel you case the same yeah so it's different you know what was it like for you man Toronto coming up man you have both your parents it was that for me you have both your parents like in a sense yeah like my mom my mom and dad they were like they were always married but they were always separated you know I'm saying so my dad used to be in and out they would try to make it work but it wouldn't and they would go through very fair share stuff so you understand as you got older though that's why you know I'd explain a little bit yeah you know well I mean I kind of knew but I

because I was I had to take care of I had to all the responsibilities kind of threw on me when I was like eight I got my little sister and I had to take her my mom you know she had a condition called fibromyalgia which is it's a chronic you guys a chronic pain condition right before where I just learned like before me my mom even had a cane sometimes she had to walk with a cane I didn't know that until we just spoke recently but after the fact you know like I was going to school, middle school, elementary school. Yeah, more elementary school middle school.

She had a cane and she would have to sometimes walk me to school. She couldn't walk me to school anymore because people were like, you know, talking about her and stuff because of whatever. I don't even know why. So she had my, she had a, I made a friend. He's like my older bro. I'll come to my older bro. Because he really like, you know, help me that.

I don't have no older bros. My older sister. She passed away from early birth. So I never had that. My mom always looked at me. Everybody kind of looked at me is the golden shot. So when I had him, he was kind of showing me, and he was more on the streets and shit. He was your son?

Yeah, this is my daughter. It's my brother. And he taught me a lot when I didn't know, you know, what life was at that time for me. So he was walking me to school. My mama gave him like two bucks, three bucks, a dollar, whatever, just to walk me and my sister to school because she couldn't do it. That's love. Yeah, super love, man. That's my dog for life, you know?

So I was going through just a lot of that. Nobody really knew what I was going through. Everybody's kind of just, I'm trying to fit in. I was an angry kid, too. Like I didn't really understand my emotions and stuff But I kind of had to just grow up really fast Because like I had to be there for my sister I got to be there for my mom

I got to make sure she gets her medication I got to make sure that the bills are paid So I gotta go online She's helping me guiding me doing Helping her pay the bills Got to go get groceries What you was in middle school doing all this? Yeah

Yeah I was like middle school Yeah What you doing for the bread? No, well She was on ODSP with some of disability All right so she's getting a disability check Exactly And she'd give it to you to make sure

you take care of business, whether you got to go pay the bills because she can't move like that. Exactly, right. So I'm paying mixing. I'm going online. She saw me how to pay the bills, what account to transfer this to and that. I'm doing it all. You know what I'm saying? And from when I was eight and on, my dad told me, you know, you got to take care of your moms now because they just couldn't do it no more. So I became that in the house. I had to be, I had to be way older than I was supposed to be at the time, you know, but and growing up where I grew up, it was very weird

because, like, I'm in a suburb that is like, I'm in a place where it's not a ghetto, but there's little pockets of them. You know what I'm saying? So you go to one block. It might be nice over here. Go two blocks down. It's nice on the street.

But that one building or that other building, so where I grew up is all the buildings, they're all fucked up, right? But although it's a family-oriented place, there's townhouses, normal houses, everybody, there's big houses, and everybody's there. But then you got them buildings

and everybody is different over there. And that's, I didn't really see it until I got older. started to get in my car, started driving around. I'm going to different parts of the city. And I'm like, oh wait, I didn't know there was a little ends over here. Wait, there's a little ends over here. So I'm going to set, check certain man in things.

I'm like, there's a black hair. I didn't know this whole time. So it's like, there's so many little pockets in Brampton of that, you know, where it's like, where we're going through the same city, you're going through the hood in Toronto. But because Brampton is that place where it's like, nobody really, nobody sees as like more as grungy

or as hardcore as Toronto really is. It always gets overlooked, overshadowed. Is living in Toronto? Is it expensive? Like, is living expensive? Now it's crazy, bro. Now a lot of people are moving out because of how expensive is, bro. Like it's getting out of hand.

Like it's, yeah, it's growing up, it was right. They're trying to push certain people out, man. That's what they try to do. They only want certain people living in the buildings and living around there. Not even just that. But like you said, it might be fucked up in some of them buildings, right? They don't want to tear that shit down or put no money into them buildings until they move to because they won't out of there yeah they're not putting no money into

that shit until either move out or die off yeah that's what's happening is this and all the people from the hoods in Toronto over to place where I grew up in Bhampton so now the suburbs is getting more grungy you know I'm saying like that's right now like for the last seven to ten years or so that's what it's been so homeless looking like around there no it's just more it's just more like just more activity going on you've been out in LA streets right yeah you've been Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They everywhere.

They everywhere. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, like, y'all touch that magnitude or not. Not as, yeah. You know what I'm saying? If the homeless population is big over there or not? No, it's more like, you know, just a lot of, like a lot of kids are selling drugs now. Right, in places that there was not that activity going on as prominent as it, as, you know,

you would see it downtown Toronto. You know, now you got kids rolling with guns. When I was growing up, all that shit was like, stop my generation. we didn't we just sold weed and shit you know we stayed out of trouble and then we got more creative these kids now they're doing what the generation before us was on they just on but way more hardcore they're just like ready to just you know lose their life with sliding on niggas for no reason this not our niggas that we grew up with and type shit like that's what's going on you know so it's different in my city now like where i'm from my my section of toronto my suburb it's

completely different from how i grew up it was more peaceful but there's still shit going on you know what I'm saying now it's like no it's oh you got to stay away from there you know people never used to want to always from at least in Brampton come to where I'm from because the police is always right there but I live right across the street in the police station that's where I grew up so it was it was a hot black the police station is still right there and there's another there's another block in Brampton that too so it was always it was always just so weird just growing up in that place and just being already a city that's misunderstood

and then being for me a person that's already feels like I don't fit in with people it was just it was already just so weird growing up but for these kids I feel like who's growing up right now in my city I feel so sad because it's like now they're just throwing aware of their life and we're trying to wear this my generation we're building that foundation for where you can be a creative you know there's people from my neighborhood that are doing huge things bro that just from my neighborhood alone not even just the city right so it it breaks my heart it breaks a lot of our hearts because it's like yo you really don't need to do these we know

like I know your bros you know I'm saying Like I know I went to school with your bro. We played ball. We did all that stuff. Like you don't, we don't understand why, but these kids just don't care no more, dog. You know what I'm saying? And that's not even just from my city. It's all over Toronto, tier two, New York.

You can, you know what I'm saying? It's like, that's what's going on now. They don't. They don't care no more. But I'd ask you, like, to reel it back in for, you know what I'm saying? Your upbringing, like, do you feel like you having to take control of certain shit might have fucked up the family dynamic to where, you know, you don't just get to be a kid. You know what I'm saying?

You can't just be a kid playing. outside, you got to go grab some food from the grocery store so y'all can get something to cook. It ain't buying fast food every night. Mother got to stretch that out. Especially if your mama living on the fixed income. Yeah, that you know, that's that question right there is it.

Like, that's what nobody, I feel like really understood. I always felt like I was on the left side because I can't, I couldn't be a hoologun, I couldn't even, like I couldn't do the dumb shit. No, I didn't have a chance to. I already had so many responsibilities. You're scared to because of what could possibly have your family. Right, exactly.

You know what I'm saying? So for me, I don't, I don't have that sense of not caring. I'm going to be a kid right now. No, I kind of have to be the older brother, be a son, be a, I don't, I had to just be who I had to be. Like in a sense of father figure sometimes, like growing up, it was just weird, bro. What's your relationship like down with your siblings? Amazing, amazing, amazing.

Because we work the ass off to just, you know, try to get ourselves and our family to a place where we're at now. growing up we didn't know like my mom was uh when I was in high school my mom was in school uh from middle school to high school she was um she was just trying to go to school just relearn because she went to school she graduated in Guyana she were there from my parents are from but obviously you know when you move to America it's different in Canada it's the same shit so um she was going through a lot court my dad a whole bunch of hookery and she got schizophrenia but nobody knew so I'm like 1415 my mom has schizophrenia nobody knows so we're going through all these

things in the house and we're trying to make sense of it but nobody knows but now the schizophrenia is at a place where it's affecting me and my sister and a place where we we can't convince you of anything because you're in your own world now and nobody knew this until like two years ago or three years ago about so y'all was living with that shit all majority of your whole life yeah And didn't even know like you dealing with a crazy person pretty much. Exactly. Yeah. She raising kids.

Yeah. That's scary, bro. It was. That's not cool. No, nobody knew. But you know what? Because something bad could have really happened, bro. Like, well, she just would have a snap one day.

We see it all the time, man. Ficking people killing their kids and just like just going through certain modes. She almost wanted to kill. It came to a point where she wanted to kill herself. Because she didn't have nobody but us. Right? So she didn't know where it really takes. She would take her anger out on us a lot.

and try to, I don't know, get us to believe what was in her world, even though we couldn't see it, to the point where you was just, bro, and I want you continue to tell me, but you was just too young to know that this shit was some bullshit. Oh, of course. So yeah, you're trying to, this is my mom. I'm trying to accept that. Yeah, I'm just thinking, oh, mom's a little crazy.

Yeah, my mom's a little crazy, like, well, I'm trying to make it make sense because it's my mom, you know? Right, so I'm not just going to sit there and say she's crazy. No, of course not. that's exactly that was my mission but to know that you was really living through some crazy shit is like it's traumatizing bro for anybody it is man you know what i'm saying and not even getting the proper help for your mom like you know what i'm saying yeah i know that's like no offense but like that disability check like my mom need to get some real help you know what i'm saying it came to that

point though bro like real shit it came to that yeah that shit's cancerous yeah man real talk like it was it was like my she she she drove me and my sister out the crib we couldn't deal with it no more that's why I'm here because I said you know like I've always wanted to take care of my mom before it was football for me my whole life I wanted to be in the NFL yeah 18 around 17 I got some concussions and shit and I said I'm gonna just do music I had a choice to either go in the streets still or or just do music and I chose to just do music and I ended up running away when I was 18 because it was just too much me and my sister spoke about

it was just too much for me oh was she she ran away with she was no she was she was she was only 16 at the time right because she's born in the end of the year so but you're only a year apart but she stayed at she stayed home when you stayed home and she took on the burden when i left and that was a lot for her and i was just that at that point i was just on drugs bro and i was just on i was just while i'm doing drugs is literally fucking i don't feel like your sister probably resented you for a long time bro yeah we leaving her with that not to mention leaving just her by itself right because you all was close but then leaving her with pretty much let's just say that burden yeah yeah we fought about it we really fought about it you know i'm saying because it was

like we didn't we never even fought in our lives before we don't we don't fight like that we get along because of the same traumas that we share yeah so when she spoke to me like that bro it made me look at myself like damn i'm fucked up like i'm being a piece of shit brother right now you know what I'm saying and it led to her running away as well not running away but just saying she couldn't take it she couldn't take it no she couldn't take it and only a year and this is why this is COVID going on a year into that from her running away this because she ran away right when COVID started. My daughter is about to be born around this time.

Oh, thank you. And she, we got a call from my, yeah, I think we got a call. We went to go check on my mom or something. And she was in a place where we never seen a state that we never seen her before. And this is where we knew, okay, now we need to take you to get help

because something's wrong. Like she wasn't speaking English, was like gibberish. She was, she was, she destroyed an entire, her whole house. We told, mind you, I tiled her floors with her, a boyfriend of hers in the past. He taught me how to tile floors. And so we told her, we taught her living room.

No, no, not living room. The walkthrough or the walkway where you enter the crib. The hallway, the kitchen, the bathroom, the everything. She destroyed it all, right? I don't know what she did, but what she used, but she destroyed it all. My mom, my baby moms was there. My manager was there.

And I can't remember who else was there. I think that might have been it. maybe my little sister was there, but anyways, so when we seen her in that state, we said, okay, now we know there's something wrong. We know there's a problem. So we took her to try to get help, but this is where everything got fucked up because it's like, you cannot force them. There's only three reasons that they allow you to bring somebody in and they'll keep them.

There's a place called CAMH where it's for one people are mentally ill. You got mental out of these. Right, exactly. So it's either if they're harming themselves, they're a harm to other people. And there's another reason that I cannot remember exactly. But if there's not one of those three reasons that they're not going to accept you. When we took our mom there, when we took my mom there, they did, she walked through. She was there for hours.

They interviewed her, the analyzer, everything. She came right back out. We were devastated. Like, what are you talking about right now? We just went through that. And you're telling us that she's okay. So that drove us even more crazy. It drove us to the point where then my mom went missing, bro.

And me and my sister are arguing. just seen her like 20 hours yeah y'all ain't just gonna be committing me y'all ain't gonna be just put me any more where i'm out this bitch she put herself there she didn't even realize so we called the police and then they found her at they called and they found her at the hospital so we was just like why are you serious right now so wait so what when the police found her they're the ones that took her to the hospital though she was already there and they confirmed with us that that's where she's at right yeah so we was like okay that's cool thank you for sure he was like okay Okay, that's cool.

We stayed updated with the hospital. Minds you, my daughter's just about to be born. So I'm like, damn, like, how is this even going to be when my mom comes out? Man, it was just the, it was the craziest thing. We had to pay a lot of money and damages, like a lot. What, to the house? Mm-hmm. Because she didn't, what, she, does she own it?

I mean. No, no, no, no, because she's on disability, right? Yeah. So the government's paying for it. The government's been paying for it since she got there to the government. She'd been living in the same building for years. Yes, exactly. She moved, but she moved within the building on the same contract, right?

So when that happened, she had to pay damages. I found out she didn't pay a lot of rent. So she was, there was so much payments, dog. I mean, how can we expect somebody that obviously she's got, she's not all there, bro. You know what I'm saying? She's going through a mental breakdown or a mental crisis or whatever we want to call it. How can we expect her to pay anything? I'm surprised she was even, even.

eating or buying food to even keep herself alive. Like, come on, man, when somebody got a problem like that, like people need to really see that. Like, especially if her family, her kids are coming and trying to drop her off at a hospital. Exactly. Like, it was so crazy. Like, how do you guys just let her go like that?

But then I realized that there's so much more people that are actually like this, like when they step out, it's almost like there's this, not Jackal Hyde or like this two-face, you know, where they can, they can put on the act when they need to, but there's still all that, I don't know what to call it still there. Well, she knew enough to get the fuck up out of there

because she knew that's not where she wanted to be. She do drugs, bro? No. She never had no drugs. Never. My mom, she smoked weed, but that was for her condition. Right? So I remember when I grew up, she had the weed car,

the legal, before weed was even legalized in Canada. She had the car for it, but that was it. You know, my mom is a Christian, God-fearing woman. came from a Jehovah's Witness family she got nine sisters she's like me she takes on people's stress she takes care of so much

it destroys her right she's so nice she gives out her heart to everybody destroys her and mentally it destroyed her she had nobody anymore she felt like she was losing everything especially in her kids too which was the last thing she had and she already lost her daughter too

so she just felt like she was just losing losing nothing's going away nothing is working out and she lost it And it's especially because when I was in high school, I started becoming like a young, or developing trying to become a young man and trying to figure out myself now, that created so much friction, right?

So that also, you know, helped her get worse. You know, I know I played a part in it too, you know? What I change anything, though, no, you know? I don't regret nothing that I went through because the way we're happy now, dog, bro, it's priceless, my nigga. Bring my daughter around, my sister comes around. Maybe my dad comes around now. We all just, I can leave my dad and my mom together and they hang out.

I'm just like, what the fuck? Never would, could this happen before, but who's worth it, you know? Y'all were, I hate to say it, but for some people, man, they can't do relationships and raise kids. They got to do one or the other. I know it might sound weird. Some people, I just feel like some people can't really do it. Like, they either could be in the relationship.

They can't be in the relationship with the person and be raising their kids together. Some people, I think it, I don't know what it does to them if it's overwhelming. You know, I know it might. be a stupid it's a stupid way of looking at things but sometimes you got to look at it like that to really see the picture clearly now you know what I'm saying like some people just can't do it your feelings out of yeah he probably dealing with a lot with your mom like you know they're probably fighting or arguing like you said can't be around each other and we're trying to raise some kids fuck that these kids don't even need to see that yeah and honestly I'm so happy I'm thankful

for every decision that I made with my sister that I didn't that even the way that we were able to come together separately I'm very thankful I couldn't be mad at all it Because now I get to like speak about this story in a way where it's like, it motivates people. It encourages people to speak more, you know, to check on, to look for the other things more than when we would have in the past because we didn't really, especially coming from a Caribbean influence, bro,

and first immigrant parents from Canada, they have all the upbringing from back home. None of the mental health shit and none of that shit matters to them when they get up here. You know what I'm saying? It literally didn't exist. When I told my mom, depressed at 13, She's like, what are you talking about?

Depression? That doesn't exist. How can you depressed? You're 13 years old. Come on, it's a real thing, right? Yeah. So it's like that was just to even get to where I'm at now and to let people know and speak about it and shit like that.

Well, it means a world to me because it's something that I feel like is so ignored in our community just based on the fact of how we grew up, how our parents grew up, you know? So I don't regret nothing I went through. I'm very thankful that I went through it and how I went through. I'm this kind of person that's left field, that's to myself, that I'm, because that's the, the, the, the things that bring me happiness and joy are those things. And I believe you too, why I said that's because you're a different type of nigger.

Like you said, my upbringing was different. Like I had no regular black folk parents like to where like they kind of, you know, it's a little bit different. I understand that. I can tell by just in your swag and your demeanor. I definitely want to dive over to, you know, let's get into the music. Like how'd you get into music? Like what made you even want to start, you know, sharing, you know, what you got going on

through this music? Like, when did you start, man? I was around, I've always been singing. You know, I try to keep myself from like singing groups. I taught myself at a rap. I was singing before that. How I taught myself how to rap. I was just, I don't know, I just tried to mimic what I liked,

whether it was an M&M song. That's how you caught your vocals. Right, and I would try to do it in my own way. And anytime I realized that I couldn't really mimic anybody, I can just do my best impression of it. Uh, 15 at the time. What was the first song you tried to mimic? Be honest, bro.

Bree is Intolute by Drake and Amarian. Yeah, that was the first song. It was, oddly enough, it was an R&B song, but that was the song where I said, you know what, I'm going to try and start working on my craft here with this song. And it's an interlude. I don't know, it was a weird choice, but that song is... I mean, that's where you felt like you found it at.

I'm not mad at it, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, that's the song. And after that, I was making, I was writing more R&B, because I was all of my feelings. I was, you know, super lover boy. I wasn't on no other time. I was a happy kid, just, you know?

So I played football, so I was always just doing that. But regardless of that, yeah, I was just a lover boy. So I was just putting my pen in that. But I never liked my vocals and how I sounded when I sang, because I didn't understand pitch or nothing like that, you know? So I wouldn't do it. I would stay away from it. And that's what made me get more into just rapping now.

right so I figured if I can maybe rap I can just get away with not singing as much and maybe learn a little bit later down the lines and how to make even R&B songs fully so I can you know get the vocals out and give you riffs and runs because I wasn't really too heavy I don't know why I just studied more rap I didn't really even though I listened to more R&B so when I was like 16 17 the same my same older bro that I told you about used to want me to school also taught me how to engineer and tell me about Adler taught me all that shit, right? And then, because we were making music together

and then I formulated the whole group and then I would go to the YMCA at this night called Teen Night. It was like Friday nights they used to have for kids and shit, right? So I used to go there, all the girls are there, all the madame were playing ball, talking to girls. You know, boo-woo, at the end of the night,

niggas is having freestyle battles outside, right? So we're all freestyle, we're battling, boo-woo, people are coming now, the circle's getting bigger because everybody's finishing playing ball. Girls are around that, And then you know what? I said, when it comes to my turn, when I run out of bars, I would just start singing

on him, right? Oh, man. I had to throw an ugly-ass dynamic into things. Niggas, you should tell me, yo, stop singing, bro. Like, we can't sing like that. Like, you got to stop, you know? So, it made me work on my bars more, but Nick, that's when people realize, like, oh, shit, he could sing, too, you know?

And then that's when I really started to mold this hybrid-type artist of just being able to sing and rap and give it to you in those whatever way possible. And party next door, Drake, the weekend, those are huge influences because those are the guys I felt like that were doing it the best for me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They all major artists for sure. So I'm mad at you

for definitely like looking up to them dudes right there, man. You play any instruments or something? I tried to. I tried to play the drums. It didn't work out. It seemed like a musically inclined guy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to figure out like, damn, did he, you know, fuck with instruments at all?

I tried to. I always tried to, but I never had the patience to not to really get it down. What I'm trying to do is learn piano, but, um, what I hear about. You want to be one of them lover, lover boy niggins real, huh? You'll be able to sit there, uh, bro, but it, you know what the, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like I can see you. I see what I see what you're trying to do, bro. You know what I see it?

Have it in the crib, grab piano, you know what I said? Yeah, I see you. I see you. You don't want to just in the, you don't want to just in the house just for looks. You want to be, oh, baby, let me show you what I can do on it. Yeah, exactly. I want to say I want to be on that time. I will, I will get to myself, get myself there, but right now I'm just taking it.

No, who's cold at that? Who's it? Jamie Fox. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he fax, facts, facts. Big on Judy Fox. Anybody I would have wanted to be if I said, I'm gonna be a singing ass nigga and play the piano at the same time. He can just do it all. He's bad, bro.

He just, you'll be talking to the middle of it and just starts singing through. Bro. He's different. He's different. He's different. Respect his artistry all around when it comes to not just music, but when it comes down to his acting and comedy bro he knows how to do it I'm saying group off a lot of his shit too so I love so was it was it easy for you getting into music or no like I'm saying was you having any struggles mm-hmm you know I'm saying so actually trying to go and

cut a track yeah like just just trying to even get my songs out there and figuring out because I was trash when I started bro garbage bro um but I didn't care like I would I go back on my Facebook messages now and I see who I was spamming to go check out my music and shit Like I was spamming. I was spamming my whole school. I was spamming anybody I knew. You were spamming any major artists?

No. No. Because my mindset was get the community, right? So I can get the numbers, right? And that's what I always, I was always just independent. I didn't want to depend on nobody. I wanted to make sure I can build this shit on my own. And that's what I was doing.

I had my own collective at the time. It was called High Rollers Club. Now it was called UTU. I knocked the underground. But I had my, I was always just, I always wanted to do everything myself. If I was going to go independent, I would have at the time. But, yeah, I was always just worried about how I can get my name into the people's mouths that are popping in the city and overtake their crime, which eventually happened. But I was so, it took a long time.

It took about, well, for me it did. So it was hard to get, it was hard to get their attention. So much, so much. And even when I tried to, like, there was no respect there, obviously because I'm so brand new and shit. and I'm just like trying to ting, right? Niggas is already doing shit. So it wasn't until I left to Toronto where then niggas is like, oh shit, what's going on over there?

He's making different type of music now. And I was going to Toronto while I was in Brampton because I moved to Scarborough with my dad when I ran away. So I'm dropping. So you went with your daddy when you say you ran away. I don't really technically run that. I went because my mom, she's like, you know what, But if you're going to, instead of being on the streets,

I'd rather you just be with your father. Yeah. But it was on the other side of the city. It was way more grungy. And I was like, you know, fuck it, okay, I'm going to try. Did it for like a month, two months or so. And then I said, fuck it, I'm staying downtown. And that's when I was just on my own.

But I only, and I only stay with him. I stayed with him when I was finishing high school for that time period, which was, I could have stayed down the street. But just to me, my mom kind of chill, I said, you know what? I'm just going to make you happy, even though I shouldn't be. and I'm gonna go stay with dad. Yeah. Right.

But I loved that I did because it made shit so much harder on me. Yeah. Going to, living across the city, waking up, I had to look at a four. I got to ask you, did you at least run away for 72 hours? No, no, I was gone for months. You weren't at your mammas because I was starting to sound suspect, my nigga. And I'm drawing back in. I'm like, she got to sound like some cat in this nigga's rap right now.

I'm not, I don't know, bro. She knew who's house I was at. She knew whose house I was at. And she didn't want me. I can't run away, my niggins a way. Running away is, don't nobody know where to fuck to find you. Y'all might have a different, like, terminology

of running away in Toronto, because niggins down here, you run away, nigga, don't nobody, you don't want your family, nobody, that's why it's called running the fuck away. Yeah, yeah. She means you run away from everybody, mom and dad for starters. They're for fucking starters right off the dribble.

No, you're not wrong, digger. I know. I'm like, Come on, dog. But it was more, it was for more than 72 hours. All right. I was making sure. It was maybe more than a week, right?

I was gone. I left for like. But your parents knew where you was at, though, gang. Well, I left. When I left my dad's, I didn't, I didn't just run away. Your mama knew where you was at because like you said, she knew where you was at. She just didn't want you over there. Yeah, she knew.

But she knew eventually, because she knew if I was a runaway, there'd be one place I'm going to go. Yeah, I know that and running away. She knew where to fight. The jigs up. Facts. The jigs up. She found. She tried to get me back home and I didn't go home.

That's just a nigga being rebellious at that point. At that point, fact. You know what? That's a fact. I was being very rebellious. I was, you know? And when I left my dad's, you could probably see, yeah, I was being very, very realist too, because they knew where I was.

They knew I was downtown. They knew they can find, but I just wasn't going home. Yeah. Right? And I just, I'd use that to my advantage so I can just do my thing. You know what I'm saying? But what was the lessons? Another question, but what was the lessons you learned from all

that um don't consider certain shit running away for that you know what i mean i was like i'm out of the way i was like niggi let's teach him the real turn of that's a lesson for sure that that is a nice lesson to learn out 27 you just went to your friends you guys cracking all these things is his time you just went to your friends out like mikey cask you see oh man you seem like a kid that got rebellious said Fuck you guys. I'm running away.

Right? You did it for one day? One day. Your mom found you? Y'all niggas ain't no good. Really, bro. Y'all ain't good as shit. That's how you know y'all ain't known no damn body.

You ended up with your daddy house a week later. Straight up. It's crazy. I'd be roasting this nigga. Now I'm getting roasting like, mom. He's loving it. What was the lesson that you learned for real from all?

Oh, shit. Overall. Overall. Um. Ah, man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stressing me out today, yeah, for real, church. You stress me out, man.

You're stressing me out. Fuck, man. Oh, shit. Damn, damn, I don't even know anymore, nigga. What's a lesson you learned for, like, overall, from, you know, just leaving the house for a little bit. Because I made it all in all, bro. You shouldn't have left because, niggia,

Your mama really needed you at that time. No, she did, she did, she did, she did, but the ways that she was being, even my sister knew, like, we both knew, like, this was not normal. The way she was treating us wasn't right at all. Like, it was just straight, like, it was just straight disrespectful, like, some nasty shit sometimes. So I said, I need to take myself away from this because I know my potential and she's limiting me right now. And I said, I know the risks, but I know what I can do, which I did do. That's why I'm not. I'm not, I don't regret anything I do, any choices I made.

I, if I could do certain things different, I would, which was not be as selfish. I was a little too selfish when I was a kid because I just, I was in that phase of just not knowing who I was. But when I was a teenager, I was going through that shit where I was like, I didn't, I was making choices that I knew was going to affect her, but I did it anyways.

You know what I'm saying? And that's where I said, I did help. when it came down to the her schizophrenia because I was in that mode I was just trying to do me at that time Right right So yeah it wasn't It wasn't until like now

Like we're like after we went through all that shit Where I was like okay you know what like I can Now I can really do what I was meant What I was meant to do for you You know because we know now what the actual problem is Right so and I've done it now You know I'm not even done yet but I've done What I know my mom's with me now

You know like my mom's with me I take care of her Even though she'd been getting a disability check, she probably still, she's still getting it. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's, you know, you seem like you came into a little bit of money, you know, over your chains. And I help her out, yeah, yeah, yeah, I help her. I want to know, you shot her a couple dollars. No, no, no, no, I take care of her. Since the big break. I, what?

What, my, my grandma, she died last year. Sorry to you. Right, it's okay. It's, it's love, for real. I miss my grandma. It's like my mom. Yeah, likewise. So, but I built, we built a house back home for her.

Because where she was living, it was just the gutter, literally, it was just the trenches. It was just mad. It was nasty. And I was able to, with this job, I was able to help her die in a place where she was in comfort, right? When a happy stay and a happy place with family where she didn't have to feel any pain from the outside, right? And that made us all more comfortable, right, where I can say, you know, my grandma died in peace. She didn't die in agony. She didn't die in...

She had to die in the comfortability of her own home, her own bed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right, right. And that's how she grew up. That's how they all grew up. So I was able to give that back to her. You know what I'm saying?

And that makes me... And I'm still trying to always just take care of just, you know, make sure she's self-sustainable by just helping her out as much as I can, helping up the family as much as I can doing whatever. I got to be sending money all the time, just trying to build certain things down there. So, you know what I'm saying? Because it's hard and that's hard back home. Yeah, for sure, man.

Guilty a lot. You know, because she left and she in Canada, you know how it is back over and, you know. No, I don't know how it is in Canada. At first I thought I did. Y'all talked about that running away shot. I was like, oh, y'all think it's got different terminology. You know, there, bro. I can't say I know what anything's like over there at this point, bro.

Oh, yeah, I'm a teaching. I'm a teaching. I'm a teaching. I'm relying on you to kind of give me some inside here so I can actually put together, you know, what this shit really is, you know. No, I got you. So back, you know, in Toronto, a lot of our families, you know they're from third world countries and not a lot of them could come up here as well so it's always there's like you know a dependency not even in the sense that's a family and the same that's how we get looked at

right so you know we do what we can to take care and help them out back there back home and you know what i've been doing i've been trying to just you know build businesses just try to make just i have a different angle you know but as for the meantime i'm just trying to make sure that i can help everybody self-sustain themselves because you spend your money on bottles and close all the motherfucking time like you actually take big chunks of money not take a lot you know what I'm saying go try to help some people like that you know always it ain't even got to just be random people just yo people yeah always like you said you got family that's back there that can actually use a few bucks yeah man I'm always always I'm taking money always trying to send

down I'm gonna ask you roy yeah what's up other than your partner you're saying because you talking about your partner that you grew up like hey man I really kind of looked up to the yeah you kind of fucked with them yeah you have any other kind of mentors in your life yeah they right here they're really like shifting shaped like these two brothers right here yeah man these these these ran into the i'm happy for you because he needs some people with him he knew he need some real people like hey bro look this how we put our sauce on our chicken my nigga yeah that's how we do that's exactly that's what happened they teach us a real game my nigga you know what what i'm saying but they let me be they also let me blossom and be myself as well within that which

I'm so thankful for it. You know, they just try to turn me into a whole completely different person. You know, they held mold what was already there. And that time, I couldn't be more thankful, you know what I mean? I got to ask you, like, for a person, like, real question, back to some real shit. Like, how have you, Roy Woods, how have you stayed focused?

Like, what's been a couple things that you've done to stay focused? You know what I'm saying? Through your journey so far. I mean, it's always, I always put people in front of me. So it's always just been, you know, trying to help my family as we've been talking about. My mom, you know, since. I was a roller coaster, man.

Yeah, man. Because I was a fucking roller coaster. Just the conversation about that was a roller coaster. You know what I'm? That's what I say. We're just now getting off that motherfucker. I'm like, whoa, if we're going to ride it again? Hell, no, I don't.

That's why I say shit's a roller coaster, man. There's more than a movie to me, man. But yeah, it's just, you know, just trying to make sure I can get them out of where they're at and get them in better positions. my phone about you see that's like what are you trying to do like you you know what I'm saying like I've heard you speak for your family you know for your friends and colleagues or whatnot yeah but like what's Roy Woods like how are you staying focused for you like him say how is your mental because we've talked about other people but we haven't talked about yours where's your mental at these days my brother oh man see that's that's the place I try to stay away from and as of lately I've been trying to just figure out even what I want for myself you know who do I want to be right now because I've been focused as we said on everybody else and trying to take care of everybody else and I haven't been taken care of myself the way I thought I was yeah and I'm always thinking like I'm getting I'm getting closer but I'm always just finding myself I gotta take 10 steps back again so I mean that place just like confusion again you know a little lost again you know like I'm there right now even though I know I'm on track there's so much about myself right now I'm just like I I'm just so confused about it. And I'm just trying to, like I just said to, like, I was on Thursday.

I said, I need to go to therapy and I need to take it serious because I got a lot that I'm holding in. I got a lot that I'm just trying to push through. I'm just trying to toughen through it. And it's like I haven't really created an outlet for me besides music. And then when sometimes music now can't be the outlet as much, where else am I supposed to go? To your businesses, nigger. The ones you said you about to start or you've been trying to work on and been folks. That's what you're gonna go to because that's gonna be

What you can stand on after music is gone after anything is gone. You're gonna take your money That's that's already together. You ain't just doing it for people over there in Ghana man for you know You know people back home. You gotta do it for you too my nigga You gotta start living for you too. I know, I know Where's the first man tell me bro? When's the first you remember the first bag you made off this music shit? Yeah, I do talk to me. Yeah Give me some game. I gave a lot to my mom I told her about it and I gave her a lot and then I smoked the rest. I smoked the rest means like...

I smoked all the weed. Okay, I'm just making sure like that, like that, no, nah, nah, nah, no, no. Damn, Bobby. Like, shit, I'm like, what the fuck going on, Donnie, yeah. There's relatives, man, or Bobby Browns. So, boy, he said I smoked it up.

I'm like, on the next episode. That's where it just stops that. The next episode. No, no, no, no, we smoke a weed. No, for sure. Yeah. Oh, man, this is late. So you know what I'm saying?

You didn't manage that money well at all? Not at all. I was terrible at it. I was terrible. I was 19. No, I didn't know what the fuck and I was going on. I ain't mad at you, bro, for that. Like, you're a kid.

We all fuck it off. You know what I'm saying? Hopefully you learned your lesson from that not to just sit there and constantly keep blowing it because he don't never know when this shit going in. Yeah, no. It doesn't know if that OVO chain going to come off tomorrow or not,

and not even because. Somebody else tell you you might wake up tomorrow just be like I don't want to do this shit no more And that happens that yo I went through that I went these niggas that's I said I'm gonna quit Yeah I said I'm done I told I told the label I said I want to quit like they went there Why this is what you want to quit this is after 20 this after the Drake tour the Amigos tour like right after it Um I went to uh I stayed in Atlanta because that was the last date for a little bit for like couple weeks went to Miami for couple weeks went to Jamaica came back found out my home he died um now we tried to figure that out my management situation at that time I had I always had two

managers but um at that time I was like happy with the situation with the I had replaced one because that one was just you know them bad eggs around it was just bringing me all it was just bringing not just me but the team down and you know it's it wasn't like I was just trying to do nobody dirty like I tried to show him as a brother but they just what what Drake have to say about it I never really I never really brought none of my shit to the man dumb I don't really do that you know I do with my shit and you know I mean like I don't really I'm just saying I just want to know what he had to say about like you leave him because I would hope Drake care about his

artist I don't get fucking out big out there oh oh it didn't even get there oh it didn't get there you know I'm saying you should care yeah they go on your label you know what I'm saying like that's your brand at the end of the day you know I'm saying so when I brought it to them they they set to think about it you know they said think about it because I didn't even get to him yet you know so when I when I did bring it up they said okay this how you feel you know think about it you know see if you're really what you want to do and that's what I did I thought about it and then my brother Banks said to the left he's the one who came who was in management at the time

he was just oh he's always a friend and he's I've known him since he you know since I've been moved to downtown so he was always around and then he's the one I started making music everything he said you gotta get back in this dude I was doing dumb shit I was just He said you gotta get focused again. You gotta get back in the stool. You gotta start making music. And we had a very long, real talk. And from then on, from I started seeing a shift in me,

a fire ignited in me, because it's like I needed that coach to just believe in me and what I do and what I bring to the table. You still young, man. Not everybody got that in them to like, some people need a kickstart. You know what I'm saying? And maybe a help a hand from somebody.

You know what I'm saying? I'm saying like just that the words have encouraged me some people need that man need that that it just helps you know I'm saying you're still young bro you're saying you're young I can see why you would need that yeah especially being over here fucking around in the states it's different than Toronto my nigga trust me though it's completely different around here I know I know I've been home to early for a long time so I've been then we tapped in you know what are you what do you uh what else you like you see yourself doing like you see yourself doing like in life other than music you know what we've talked about over you know talking about you know

fucking with the label and shit like that just life in general like what about you bro like you've helped a lot of people you know what i think i'm we were supposed to add this conversation because i'm supposed to tap into like hey man what makes roy tick like what make you go vote for you like you got to start stacking it up my nigga go see some things for you not just always helping everybody else that's where you're going really burn yourself out my nigga i'm gonna tell you the truth and that's probably what you was burnt out because you know you're doing me music and shit like that. You say you're giving a lot of your money away

or like to your family and doing this and doing that. You didn't even get to really enjoy. So why the fuck would you want to do music? Yeah. You're gonna be like, nigga, I'm just doing it to cater to everybody else. It's not even that I'm making money off of something that I enjoy and I actually get to go and indulge in it.

I'm giving it to other people. So it's real. Well, my niggia, it's almost in a sense of like, hoeing yourself out. Don't ever do yourself like that and play yourself. Keep your money, man. Do what you gotta do for you. You're still young.

man, you know, go get you some businesses, go get you some things that you could actually live off of to where one of your businesses, small businesses or whatever, you know, you dedicate the majority of those earnings to helping some of your family or, you know, sending money back home. Which I've been doing. I've been in my business shit, you know, like I've been investing, I've been trying to, you know,

make sure I can make some money outside of this shit all the time. Still, to this day, you know, but I've always just, yeah, I've never, a boy, I've never put myself first. Never. goes my next question yeah what do you be what do you do other than music and help your family like what do you do when you're not doing none of that what does roy do uh i've been uh coaching a little bit um for football i used to obviously because of my dreams i used to obviously want to play so yeah i coach a little bit when i can um i like to learn a lot about the spirit um different things that's

different different different different my mom is still me um not just based on a lot of attraction but i like to learn about different cultures history um for some reason it just drags me i don't know what i'm going to do with it but it calls me but those are just things i like to learn about and i like to learn about just anything really but um i'm even in a sense where i'm just like far besides music this is all i know what else do i want to do i mean i've always been involved in business always trying to you know see where else I can make my money make money but a lot of these things there's just more natural to me I don't haven't found anything else like there was like gardening at one time that was like I wanted

to be a whole farm with this nigga laughing watch it. You want to be a farmer? I want to be a farmer one time. It's okay man listen you all laugh at him because I'm trying to tap into where he at with it like maybe we can find something you know else that suits him for him you know what I'm saying because I feel like you you know you strayed away from that in your life a little bit. Yeah, I'm older, church. So when I sit down with somebody, I know how to read between the lines of the

shit, my name. We're going to get right. I love that. You know what I'm saying? We're going to get right. No, but for real, like, I was, that was gardening at one point. I mean, I still want to, you know, it's just, as always. What's you're trying to farm?

What you're trying to? I was gardening. I was squash. I was just trying to do tomatoes, but I did the wrong time of the season, so it didn't work out. Somebody tell you that that was wrong time. I knew, but I still tried to do it. I just wanted to.

I was just being stubborn. you know and I just try to ting but oh but this is recent don't go wasting your damn money I just had them I just had them I just had them so I was just like fuck it but when I was when I had my garden I was growing everything bro I was growing little micro greens green on y'all's regrowing shit learning about what I can regrow um damn there was so many things that was uh uh cab not cabbage uh fuck man I said squash oh basil um let me help you out so whatever. Let me...

Let me... Let me help you out here. Okay? If you were to get a lot of that shit going, that's how you're going to move the bitches. You know that, right? It's because, like, you get... Hey, I took all this from my garden today, chopped it up.

I know, I know. I was running it. You know how to cook? You know how to cook? Yes, man. I was taking that and cooking, nigga. Trust me, I was running it crazy. Oh, well, you may talk to the bitch like that

when you sit there with her. Like, yeah. No, no, no. You can't lose your cool. You got to keep that same. Lung Shway. Because you show all bitches. right now like oh this thing it might be borderline crazy you start asking them a couple questions

you're like these guys are killing me right now I'm just looking at it for things about you know oh man I know how to cook man I know how to cook man you got any favorite content creators bro like you like watching content like do you watch like podcast shit like that notice a lot of you niggas that do you'm saying music all that y'all watch all this shit no I'll be watching Joe a lot the Joe Rogan podcast like JRE you like shout out Joe, bro. Big shout out to Joe, man. E.B.

That's... Good shows. I love watching, learning from, you know, the things that they be talking about. They get it like, they like to get, I mean, you know,

they get on there, they like to talk about aliens and, you know what I'm saying, shit like that. All that shit. Like, they start to, like, to break down shit. Like,

I like, I even sat there with Elon Muzz, even smoked with him. Like, you know what I'm saying, they get into this fucking rant about just everything but nothing at the same time. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. In a sense, I love that shit. But there's so many things because, like, I don't know about history that I love learning about that they be talking about. So I'd be like going there and I'd be like doing my own, getting my own, like, doing my own research and shit of what they're talking about.

It's like, once I get deeper into it and then he talks to somebody else and they'd be like talking about similar stuff that I've been, I'm like, oh shit. Close your mind, doesn't it? Super. It's great. You got any favorite producers? Anybody you want to work with? Tim, Timberland, man.

I've been saying, I want to work with Timberlin right now, man. And I met him, yeah, I met him years ago. Yeah, I'd love to work with Timberland. I haven't heard his name in a while. I mean, I love Timberlin. Like, I ain't no disrespect to Timberlin, but that was unusual. I mean, it's cool. And I'm not saying like Timberlin ain't, you know.

He's that nigger. And he was definitely that nigga in his time. You know, anybody that's up to date. Yeah, up to date. Yeah, anybody up to date. Like right now that you know is pop and you would love to work with. Oh, dang. So many new producers.

I don't even. I don't really be paying attention. Reason why, because I have my own creative, my own collective of producers that I'm working with. You know, so like besides all the big dogs, I just be working on with my guys. Nigger, I'm going to tell you this. I would say between me and you,

but I guess this is going to be on air. So, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, my nigga, if I was you, nigga, I'd be trying to get a song with the big dog. Fuck that. You too close. You too damn close. They couldn't let even me put a pinky toe into that

motherfucking brand nigga, and me and that nigga ain't put something together. I don't give a fuck. Baby it's just me. Hell, maybe I'm crazy. What do I know? I'm just podcasting, right? No, no, no, no. You're talking to that shit, what? You know, like, shit, I ought to be like,

nigga, where is Drake, man? And even I'm going to do something where that nigga going to hear me, man, ringing, my name going to be ringing bells through the whole camp to where he ain't going to have no choice but to come out of me, nigga, and ask me what I want to do. That's when you know you're moving up, bro, you gotta really, if you gonna do this shit, my nigger, do this shit for real, bro.

Like, you got too many opportunities, nigga, you're too fucking close to it to not really just be pushing full throttle. Right now, you shouldn't be thinking about nothing else. What you shouldn't be thinking about is your fucking music, where you need to push it at, and how can you expand and get bigger? Because like you said, you are a brand. Roy Woods is a fucking brand. Thanks.

But you got to use some of the things that you have going on around you as canopoles. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That way it can catapult you into the direction you truly want to go, my nigga. Facts. For real. Take advantage of that shit, homie. Like I said, that shit could stop tomorrow and then what?

You want to be another nigga like a lot of the niggas that we know that stand there and tell you where they could have been, what they would have been? Yeah. Never that. I don't want would or could have in my first, middle or last motherfucking name, nigga. Ever when they bring me up as a topic. So I don't ever want to see that ever be for you. Like I said, you got... You got a gift right now, man.

You gifted right now in a sense to where a lot of niggins are probably killed to be. They would kill to be in your position. Bring more of a fire to it. Nigel wake up tomorrow different. Wake up feeling about it different like damn. I really am signed over here to OVO. Nick, I can really take this shit and take a storm right now. I'd be in the fucking studio.

I wouldn't even have time for interviews right now because there ain't nothing to talk about. It's time to show. Ain't nothing to talk about right now. Nothing, bro. Other than me having my ass in that studio, me trying to bring out some type of t-shirts, whatever, whatever I want to do. That represents my brand, my music,

what I got going on so the fans can touch something other than just a fucking downloadable stream. This shit together, man, you got it, bro. Yeah, but I'm just saying you got it. But he don't seem happy. He don't seem like he where he wanted, like he don't seem happy about it. That's what I'm saying.

Like he doesn't see. He's like, man, I really wanted to quit. I really wanted to do this. It seems like he's not wanting to do it. He's being pushed to do it. You know what I'm saying? I just want to see my man happy.

He know he feel where I'm coming from. I mean, I want to see you happy in this shit. Come on, my nigga. I'm a real-a-old-a-draught-ass man. I know when a young nigga tells like he really want to say it, but it's just hard for him to say it because he felt like he letting a lot of people down. And that's him doing it once again,

looking out for everybody else and not himself. Yeah. That's a, that fucks your mental up all within itself. on me straight up yeah we might get a tour out of him now but what we gonna get out of him next year he's gonna hate this shit we need to find him a happy medium in this man whatever that may be whatever letting the nigga go fucking run off go fucking hiking in the mountains for a week let him go do something that heals him betters him maybe that need to get put on paper a little bit not just his next fucking tour date put something that actually involves him and not

just him making the bread to pay everybody out everybody doing what they need to do Let's get him healthy mentally. Then maybe we can worry about some fucking music for him because we only want him putting out the real shit, the great shit. Hell, he is from OVO, right? I am sitting with a nigga that's from there. He knows. He knows what I'm saying.

It's true. It's crazy. It's been a therapy session that I didn't know I needed today. Hey, man. You just speak to truth. Sometimes, hey, man, the truth, hey, my nigga, I'm just a messenger. They might not like how I come out this raspy-ass voice or a light-skinned nigga,

but sometimes if you explain it to me right, I'm gonna tell it to you straight. Nick, I need that blunt, nigga. Go ahead, man. Let me get the latter, okay? No, because it's real, man. You're speaking the shit that I literally just keep to myself, you know?

Yeah. I'm hearing it out loud right now, it's crazy. Is there anything before we get out of you? I feel like we've hit the top of it, and I like that's where I like to snip it, because, you know, it gives them, want more. Anything you want to tell your fans,

tell the viewers? Shit. Tell yourself because you probably go, this is going to be forever and you get to come back and watch it 10 years later. So make sure you stand on it. It's good to be back. Yeah. It's good to be back. That's the fact is... You sound revived now. Bro. And I have to say it for you to make you feel better about it. I said it all for you. Real talk, man. And I needed this real talk.

Hey, this is real shit. Roy Woods. Whenever you want to come back and see Church, take my line down. Nick, you got to feel a certain way. Call me, nigga. I got you. We'll get you back on track, just mentally, homie. I can just be one of your mental coaches, man. That's all I can do.

I ain't got nothing else for you, but some time and maybe some good words, my nigger, an experience. And the truth needs no support. The Sharp Tank, no jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And me and my man Roy Woods just did it for real and not for play. Hey, Donnie, shoot us out the motherfucking gym. fucking gym.