No Jumper - Rylee Rabbit on Going from a S** Worker to a Podcaster

Episode Date: September 10, 2022

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The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I got a special guest in the building today. How you doing? I got Riley Rabbit with me today, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for having me. Hey, I'm happy to have you here.

I've been hunting you down for like a year now. Been hunting down for a year. Yeah. No, because you know what? You had sent me a message and let's keep it real. Okay. You had sent me a message. I think I got back to you, but you never.

responded. We got back to what questions are you going to ask and I was like, let me throw back because I'm not like, I don't really plan mine. Like obviously people who don't know, I have a podcast dude. So I don't really plan my. I'm down the rabbit hole for a reason. I just, I just, let's go. Well, you know, mine's the sharp tank, you know, and that's what we do. We like to just go ahead and jump in the water and your ass better know how to swim. But you know, but to try to be, you know, more of a respectable podcaster. Yeah. You know, and we don't just sit there and roll in circles and make shit redundant.

You know, especially when, you know, I want to make a good interview of it. I always feel like it's good to have some questions. Well, that's what the problem was. When I did it, I was like, you know what? Let me fall back. Let me get ready. Especially, too, with some of the background questions, you kind of have to, like, let me make sure I'm asking the right ones.

Tell the truth. Tell the truth. You thought I was going to dog, yeah? No, honestly, it's just, I know, I know, listen, we don't cover the cleatist, backgrounds. So sometimes, you know, I've been to the courthouses before. I've done this bullshit before. Like, I understand something. I'm like, let me just critique my questions a little bit to make sure I don't throw nobody under the bus on accident. Well, let's go ahead and kick it off, shall we? Let's do it. You ready for this one? You ready to hop in 150, 200 meters? Maybe. That's where I like,

that's where I like to go. No, baby, that's deep. That's black. We can't even see down there. Let's go. No, we want to stay where we can see. Keep our vision, you know. We need that, baby. So let's start it off. Where are you from? I'm from San Diego, Southeast Diego. That's where you grew up. Grew up, born and right. 63rd in Imperial.

Tell me a little bit about it. The only white girl where I grew up, it was Mexican on this block, black on this block, skyline down that street, Lincoln Park over there. I was the only white kid. Well, it was me and my brothers. I had three blood brothers and one adopted brother. Were you an active gang member? I was not an active gang member, but I'm sure I fucked a few of them, a lot of them.

Yeah. Actually, I was like a good girl. I was a good girl until I was like much older. in my 20s. So I had the same boyfriend, but I definitely, when I got a little older. So when you hit your 20s, that's when you just start letting them, come on, hit it. I want to say hit it, but it was definitely a little, it was like, I got off to the chase of it, like seeing, you know, like getting people to come for it.

And I was a fuck-em-a-leave-em kind of person. Like, I make him chase for it until I got it. They got it. So once you gave it to them, once you gave it to people, you'd be just like, all right, I got it. I could say I could put this under my belt. I'm collecting souls. It was more like, no go. Yeah.

After, because the first, I was in a relationship for like seven years from like 15 to 22. I almost got married. I was like ready to like walk down the aisle and like playing babies and all that. And I was like, yo, I just, this is not what I want. What happened? Why the cold feet? It wasn't really cold feet. He just, like, he wanted to have kids and get married.

And I was like, I'm cool getting married. But like, let's go travel. Let's live life. I'm not in a rush to have kids. And he was ready to like have a family. And I was like, yo, I'm not there. I know there's something else for me out in the world. And they're like this.

So you say, 100. 100% he wanted, you were going to get impregnated. For sure. If you would have just said, if you would have just said, okay, but can we still just wait a little while, you feel like you still would have popped the school bus? Okay. I wasn't, yeah, I'm 36 now and I still don't have no kids. I don't, I'm at the point now that happens.

How do you feel about that? I'm cool. I'm happy. Like, I can get him and go whatever the fuck I want. Like, if I wanted to go to Dubai tomorrow, I could just get a flight and leave. Like, so I don't, it's nice for the freedom. I mean, I'm at the point in my life. I had, if I got pregnant and had a baby, I would be okay. But like, I'm glad I waited.

Yeah. Well, the reason, well, I look at it like this, you know, you didn't have kids because you really wanted to live your life, correct? Well, do you feel like it was worth not having them younger? Do you feel like you fulfilled everything that you wanted to fulfill now? No, I mean, I'm still going. I'm not done. But I definitely, um, I got to see a lot more shit. This times I look back at like my square friends and I'm like, yo, like, they have to plan like six months in advance to like go to Vegas for two days. I'm like, I could never live like that. But if you would have had them kids back then, right, and still just weathered through the storm some, your kids would have been damn near grown today where you could have still went

to, them trips. I just thought like I would have been, I would have been, I would have never left Southeast Diego. I would have been stuck another little ratchet white bitch that like swoop ponytail and hoop earrings down in Southeast Diego on the block. I would not have left. I would have been, yeah, it wouldn't have been shit. No, I'm good. I'm glad I never, I'm, I'm happy with it. Yeah. You feel like you're going to have kids in the future? I don't know. I mean, if it happens, cool, if it doesn't, it's not like something I have to have to be fulfilled. Not something that you got to have on today. You're like, no, I'm kind of. I'm not done yet. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface, you know. I got in the game very late. I was 27 when

I started home. So, like, I felt like there was a big gap of time where I really didn't get to like, and now I got money. I got a little bit status. I'm doing my shit. I'm doing it on my own terms. You know, I got, I got corporate game, I got street game, and then I'm just doing me, so. Let me ask you. That leads to my next question. When did you have your first run-ins with the game? Was that experience? I mean, it was always around me. I grew up in Dago. That's just, I mean, every one of my friends was a pimp, a hoe, a stripper, a drug dealer, something, you know. So I've always been around the game. But when I actually did it, like, went and started selling twice. Like, yeah, you just started selling twice. I was 27.

Yeah, I was 27. I was working for a major cell phone company. I was with over five years. I had sales training. And I was just like, yo, if I have to wake up one more day and come here, I'm going to go crazy. I had a panic attack at work. I'm like, 27 years old having a panic attack. And I'm like, I know there's a better way.

And I'm like, there's just, I can go get way more money and way less stress the fuck out. And I just like, I mean, you know, the person I was dealing with at the time, like, he was on then. He was doing the shit. You know? You know. You know him is what I was saying. No, okay. That's cool.

He knows who I was with for the beginning. Yeah, but it wasn't me because you tried to like, you know. I said, no, you know who I was with. He was this. He was this. He was this. He was known. No, it was not. It was not sharp.

Okay. It was not him. But we have, I mean, we have similar friends in the game. So like, and at the time, it's just like I just walked out. I was like, y'all, I need you made me the baddest bitch in the game. Like, let's, what's your game plan? He gave me game plan. It got interrupted, obviously, but I just kept on going with the game plan.

whether he was there or not. Well, under the circumstances or whatever they may have been, why didn't you stay? With him? Yeah. I did stay with him. I stayed with him for five years. I actually went through, like, he had a seven-year bid.

At the end of it, you know, it's hard to say. Let me just keep 100. You better tell this shit for what it is. Why didn't you stay down through the seven-year bid? I'll get you right. I didn't go through the whole seven years because it got to a point where I felt like no matter how much I had sacrificed, it was never going to. to be enough for me to be a priority.

I was like, I was taking care of everything. And at the end of the day, like, when you've been incarcerated, you're dealing with other people who are incarcerated as well. So you're just, like, you're hearing, like, nothing but negative incarcerated-minded people when you're in there. I mean, don't get twisted. They got game. They know what the fuck they're talking about.

But, you know, they start putting doubts in their head. Oh, I heard this through this bitch and you were doing this. And I'm like, br, it's just like, it was never enough. I was never going to get 100% trust. and I was never going to be 100% priority and I needed to make myself priority at that point. I was 32 years old. Like, what I can't keep living for somebody else.

Like, no matter what. And he understood it, he got it. Like, it wasn't no bad terms. We're still friends now. We're good. And I still looked out. When he got out, I also made sure, like, you know, we had a good little party for him.

His mom was good. I was still friends with his mom to this day. Like, but, you know, I needed to deal with somebody who could be on the outside and elevate me. So I did start doing with somebody else after that. And he took me to the next level. And once that was, once I got what I got it out of that, then I started doing my own shit. You felt like you wanted, you wanted to be, what if, and this is just my outlook to it, you know,

and I'm going to act like I don't know anything to it. I'm oblivious. I'm just outside looking in. It just seemed like you wanted instant gratification now. Like you wanted to feel like you wanted to be the top, top bitch. No, I wanted. It sound like to me, you wanted to be the top bitch. I was already the top bitch.

And once you, then you shouldn't have had no motherfucking problem. You should have been able to weather the storm. Yeah, you're right. But it got to a point where it was my priority now. I just got to a point where I felt like we got the best out of each other. And it was like, okay, cool, you got the best of me. I got the best of you. How?

You ain't even get to see him no more for a while. No, we was cool. Like, we actually have that interaction. It was, he knew he couldn't do much more for me in there. And if he was out, I probably want to, like, left. I was cool. But it just got to a point where it's just like, he couldn't get me to the next level and I couldn't get him to the next level because he was at and I was where I was at.

And so we shook hands and we walked away. I'm like mad love for him I like you know what I mean I needed someone that was out here that could push me to the next level and he couldn't do it from there they're listening to everything they still do he had 10 years after he's still on probation

like you can't move the way I need to move right now even when he got out fucked up though but he knew it and I knew it but no cool cool cool but I'm saying like let it be either just bygones be bygones or you really feel some type of fucking way about it like you just couldn't do for me what I need you to do for me right now

it was a little bow it sounds like to me he was limited he was forced forced limited he was forced limited you know what I'm saying he was forced to be limited but luckily I chose the right person

to understand that he knew who I was and I knew who he was and we wasn't going to have been madaging for that because I knew we knew what we signed up for you know what I mean like it was never like oh my God I'm still in love and we're going to stay together forever we understood that we had a mission

and a goal in hand and that that goal could not be completed in that situation and if we were ever going to live beyond that point and he was not going to change change. Like he knew. That's the shit I'm talking about right there. It keeps leaking out.

I can't. You know why? Because I didn't want to stay in the game. I knew that I wanted to get to the next. There's the truth. No, you didn't want to stay in the game. I don't, or you didn't want to get to, I'm just confused. I knew that my next level was not going to be just stuck in the game, right? It was not going to be up underneath somebody. In order for me to get like to start doing broadcast and go mainstream and do all that stuff, I couldn't be, I'm not going to lie.

I couldn't be tied to a pimp who was stuck in jail. because if I did, I would not be able to open the same doors. You know what I mean? And like, and he already knows. As soon as he got off probation, he's like, I can't wait to come on your show. Like, we're just, you know, like, there's no hate between either one of us. We understood that it was next time.

But that's the difference between falling in love with you're paying for a mission. We understood there was a goal. We had a common goal. And it wasn't about like, how hard can you be here forever. It was about the goal. You love something about it. You have to. I still love the fuck out of them. Exactly. So love will play a big deter. determining factor, not saying in love, but just love. You know, love is strong. I texted

him before I came on the show. Love, yeah, love is, love is strong. You know what I'm saying? So I just think of it. But I don't have to be in your face for me to love you. Very true, but he shouldn't have to be in your face for you to take care of business, neither, and stay on the mission. If you're down, you're down. I think we were in a very serious indictment and it was not a joke, and we both had to separate ourselves for either one of us to win, because they were going to keep trying to pull us back down. At one point, they tried to indict me for say so he went to jail for RICO conspiracy and

they were trying to make my prostitution money trying to say that that was organizing the organization. Like I was paying like my money was funneling this organization of pimps. Like it was crazy. You didn't like I heard about it. Like I said, I thought that shit sounded out. It's very outlandish. It's basically what they did was they took

away three strikes law and the government ain't shit and Kamala was part of it. Yeah, let's keep the politics. Oh, keep it out of it? No, all the reason I say that because you know, everybody's going to have their opinion. Their opinion. So basically, what it was, was though they took the three strikes away and they have to figure out a way sometimes to, like, keep people down.

So they add conspiracy on it. There's no statute of limitation. They could do whatever they want. It's a federal case. And they were just trying to, like, they try to make me testify against them and everything. And it's just like, we got to the point. I was like, yo, it's just, you know, I love you, love you. But we got to walk away.

For sure. It was mad respect. Respect. Even the second dude I deal with was my respect. So, okay, so you didn't want to, you didn't want to be away. It forced you away. So you still wanted to be there. I fucked with him tough.

Like, if the situation would have been different, I was happy. I was cool. We were good. I was making hell of bread. It was getting game. We had mad respect for each other. Okay, so it was nothing personal. It's where I'm like to where you felt a personal.

Because earlier I felt like I was hearing a little bit of that. You know, it was a little person too. I'm still a woman. I'm not going to lie. I'm still going to have feelings. It's like, come on, bro. How much of this do I have to do? free to realize that I still fuck with you

when I could get shit done. But cool, listen, if it's not going to be that, then I got to go do me and take care of what I need to take care of. And this is where I'm trying to figure out the balance. It's a little bit of both. I'm not going to lie. You know, because you're like, you know,

oh, well, I felt a certain type of way about it because I felt like he wasn't, I couldn't elevate no longer with him. And I can't elevate with you or myself because I'm going to be stuck here and I'm not a benefit to you or me at this point. Yeah. Because I was still running fucking back page ads back then.

Like, I need something else. And then you say, well, you know, it's what, you know, is the federal, the shit that, you know, kind of it forced us away from each other. So I just didn't know which one it was. I feel like we could have figured out. I feel like you could have figured out. Because it sounded out. Because it sounded like you would have stayed down if you would have got what you wanted. I would have stayed down.

You would have stayed through it all. Probably. Yeah. You felt like there was something. There was a gap that was missing that you were not receiving. Yeah. That made you walk. So I don't think, I don't want you to ever try to base that.

So tell that story because I don't want you to ever base it on. oh, well, it was because, you know, he went to jail and shit got fucked up. And it just, they were looking at us and they were looking at this. It was a lot. And it forced us away. I can't just say it was one thing. It wasn't just that or just that. It was a collective whole of everything.

It's not just black and white. It's a very long process. I was looking for five years through that shit. It took him four to even get a trial. Like, and honestly, when we went into it, it was like, yo, I'm going to be here and get you through this trial. We know. It was one of those things. Like if it works out, we're cool.

If not, then like, but it was kind of like, let's get through this trial. See what's going to happen. He even told me, like, if they give me a long time, like, I want you to go, go do what you need to do. And I was like, I'm going to at least rock with you till this trial and figure it out. Like, I'm not going to leave you dry. You know what I mean? Like, let's get you his lawyer. Let's do what the fuck we have to do.

That's respected. You know what I mean? So we were never, like, in love with each other. I was when he got locked up. And I stayed for five years. It wasn't like I was like a solid rundown. Like been in there for years. Wait, whoa, wait.

So, okay. No, so you was with him for five years, right? I was within five years total six of it, six months he was out. Six on six months. We went to the players ball up in Las Vegas. They came two months later. I was only winning six months. I got with him in July.

He was locked up in January. Yeah, that's, that's commended. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying, if you're going ride it out, just tell it for what it is. Let's tell it. Where the fuck was everybody else at? Everybody else is gone. I wasn't the only one.

There was five of us. It was the only bitch there to the end. And now there's new bitches. I don't know what the fuck y'all came from. He got out. And now, so it's like, who's, who's better, who's worse? Like, everyone just when the fuck. It was personal.

It was personal for you. Yeah, it was fucking personal. That shit was personal. It really wasn't. Like, we hadn't, honestly, we hadn't even really been physical like that. It was never that. No, but I'm thinking that you're more connected on the middle. Yeah, that's my friend.

I fuck with him. I wouldn't think that it was just because, you know, he had a jab. It wasn't like, oh, you got to make me that body. a bitch and marry me, give me a wife, I need a baby now. It ain't none of that. No, no, but you wanted your due season and you wanted to. I did want my respect. I put a lot of fucking time and I wanted to be honored for that for sure.

I think anybody does after a certain of time. I did what I needed to do. I took care of you. We did what you need to do. And at some point, when are you going to throw it back to me? Like, you're the only one benefiting right now. What were you looking for to get thrown back to you? What kind of bone was you looking at?

Not even out of him, just at the time I was really just in general. I'm going to say this because we're not even, I don't even want to talk about him. per se no more, but I'm going to look at it like, what would you be looking for in a situation like that? I need somebody that can help me get to the next level. And there's only so much that I know. Like, I'll come from the same place you did, right? Like, there's always so much that game that we've given at an age.

But I need to be able. People you chose you were never getting game from. Yeah, but there's only so much that you can get out of one person sometimes. Sometimes you need to go to the, like, and I'm not saying like the first time was for five years, the second I was for almost three. Read a fucking book. I did read books. What the hell's wrong with you?

Stay with stand with your man. Listen. Oh, stand with your man, though. You're telling me, if you was with this gentleman, I don't know if you are or not. Okay, it doesn't matter. I'm saying if you was with this gentleman, you telling me he can devote himself to you, fuck what you do, all this shit. And the day you feel like you ain't getting, he might be slacking on telling you something that day

because he might be busy in these departments. You tell him you're going to break wide and go try to find it somewhere else? Oh, that shit took me by storm. Why? To show me that sometimes bitches really ain't shit. Okay. I swear to God.

Listen. It shows the fuck out of me. Without throwing the other person under the bus, without throwing the other person on the bus. We're just talking in general. Do you want to be 100 with the other person? I'm being in general right now. Now, I'm at that point in my life now. You know why?

Because I've given so much to people over and over and over and over again. They drug me through the mud that now I'm at a selfish point in my life. I'll give you that. The second one that I was with, he put his hands on me. I'm sorry. You put your hands on me. I'm out. All right.

Let's go back to the first. curve. I get that. I was happy with the second one too. I would have never left either. You put your hands on me, though. I love you to Dev, and I loved him, but I got to go. You can't do that. Like, that's my limit. You can't put your hands on. I know, I know, listen, the game is definitely different. You know what you, but you know what chicks like to do, too, and I don't think y'all be understanding. Y'all know what y'all be doing to test the man. You know them words whoop. All you got to do is saying, because words, words to a man and certain

little things, you know the detonators on. This honestly, we had never five. So you know how to press the detonators to make him blow. You could ask this person, no, me and him never fought, three years, never argued. It was a drunk night, went bad. I got hit in a face, and it was just, it was too much for me. What were you saying that night? Do you remember? I mean, I know you were drunk, so it might have to blur.

I think what he said, you just wouldn't stop talking. I don't think I said anything. I was just, we were just drunk talking and the shit got crazy. What were you saying? I honestly don't. Were you being a lady and just like, oh, you know what? I'm just going to go to my room and go to my room and go to me down. I think I was just getting emotional and I might have started like crying.

and I was just like too much for him because he was just very wasted. It was like 10 shots into Casamigos and a couple pills. So shit was, it was just a lit night. A couple pills. It was just a lit night. You do drugs?

I do not, no. You were doing pills that night? No, I don't. The person you were with were doing pills. Yeah. Yeah. And to this day, I still let a fuck out of him too. Like, for every person I've been with,

I'm going to honor the fact that they were exactly what I needed in that moment of time. And I was cool. We were happy. And I was actually sad when it happened because I was really happy. I was like, damn, I wish you never did that.

I wouldn't have never left. But I can't. I told myself I never get hit. And I had to go. So you never get hit? You think you might have been hitting that man every day with your words? No. I respected the fuck out of him.

Listen to me. Let me tell you something. Especially I feel like this for a man. Like when a man feels like a man's supposed to be a man, right? A man's man. Like he's supposed to be there. So, you know, women have the tendency sometimes. Absolutely.

To try to dismantle that. to try to pull shield and armor off a man. I don't think that was the issue with us. I don't think so. We had a lot of respect for each other. I'm not going to lie. I don't really argue. For a motherfucker just to come across your noggin out of nowhere.

This was a very drunk emotional night. Like I said, the perks were involved. It was very, like, aggressive. Like, I think it was just like, I don't want to hear you no more. And you're just like crying, being extra as fuck. And it was just like, shut the fuck up. And it was like one of those moments. But he comes from old school pimping.

So he had to definitely change his. Okay. but I'm going to look at it just in a general. But in three years, I never got to that point. But I'm going to say this. Like, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just trying to, like, dissect the issue because it happens a lot, right? It happens a lot.

You know, people catch domestic violence. Shit goes awry. It goes crazy. This was a new situation for me. And it happened when I was like 33. So, like, I'm not, I'm the only girl of five. I know how to, like, chill when it comes to me. But you notice how chicks don't just, but when you notice that shit might be a ticking time bomb,

You don't just go to the room and just go chill. Yeah, typically. And just get out the way for a minute, you know, but to keep pressing it something. This was like we were in a car, we got stuck together. But somebody that you know, I don't give a fuck, like you can separate yourself for a second. You know, somebody that you know might be intoxicated or he might not be there tonight. Yeah. He's there all the other time.

But just tonight, it's just a fucking. Honestly, it caught me so fuck off guard because I never expected it in a thousand years. Like we didn't argue in a fight. fight we never had no issues. Like it was just, it was just a wild ass night that went bad. And I'm like, but I already know how it is. Once it starts, it don't stop. So I was like, I got to go.

I never really met anybody that I said. Same with this, but same with the chick. Once she started disrespecting you, she don't respect you no more. And I get to check. And you don't need to be there. Yeah. And I knew like I couldn't let it go and it wasn't going to be respectful. Because it's going to be.

Yeah, it's going to get worse. Because yeah, you might say under your breath today, asshole, next day it might be out of, out of your mouth, you bitch. You straight because now you're starting to call him bitch. and holes. Oh yeah. No, I don't call men, bitches.

I'm just saying. Sometimes, okay, but I'm just saying. I hear what you say enough. When there's, okay, I'm going to say it like this. When somebody finds a way to make a crack in the wall that it can find a way to make a hole, it gets bigger. So just the little things that start to slide, if they're not checked in the very beginning of how they're starting, hey man, that shit's going to get bad.

You need to cut the water off like the water company right there. I understood when it came to the game, like I understood what had happened. I got it. You know, I was like, cool, I get it. Shit got crazy. I probably was being a little emotional talking back. That wasn't really the line. I know I cut from pimping.

I get it. So, and even with the part, like, it just never had happened. So it threw me off. And I was like, bro, I already know this is going to go bad because I couldn't let it go. Like, I was like, I know that I keep looking at myself knowing I got a black eye. And like, I'm not going to be. I'm going to bring it up again. Yeah, low key.

You was embarrassed. I mean, I swung back. I'm not a phone. No, no, no. No, but I'm saying like, no, but I'm looking at the situation. And there was some other work around too at the time too. No. It was just you and him.

No, we, I didn't, I don't, I keep my shit separate. I keep it that way. See, that's, that's that shit to me though. Because you know what? That's where the problems get caused because that's where you already feel like you're separated from the bunch instead of playing an equal fair fucking game. That was his thing though. He was like, you know, I've been doing the shit too long.

I'm not saying keep everybody in this. No, it don't have to be like that. I'm just saying in a sense of like you were already, it seems like you were separated. Very, yeah, I'm very, you're going. It seems like you were separated from the pack. Everybody was separated like that. No, but I bet there was something that you was getting just a little bit different. That's what made you get a little emotional that night where y'all start getting into it even in that tussle.

No, I don't think so. I think it was just a fucked up night. Well, then why don't you just stay in your fucking place and go in the room? Why don't you just shut up? We were out. We were out. We were out. So like.

You got in your emotions, right? Yeah, we was drunk. Those emotions strike, though, from other places that. The motion, I think what happened was we was just drinking a lot. There was like a lot of other things going on. It was a lot of, there were like we were with family. And so it was like family was drinking. And then we was like on the way of home, it was just like, why didn't you just?

And he was like, just shut the fuck up. Stop talking. And then that was it. And I was like, bro, that's crazy. And you know what? You know what probably was different? I'll give you this. We did have very good.

Oh, I can have it. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know what happened? I'll give you just the one thing that I did feel like maybe and I don't know because I wasn't around the other females, he kept everyone very separate. So.

How was it with you? We can't talk about it. I want to know how it was. We have a very good relationship. How are you being treated? But me and him talked. Like, so I feel like when I did have an opinion, typically he listened to it. We would talk.

We'd figure stuff out. So we didn't really argue about a lot of stuff. So in a situation where like I feel like I am normally allowed to speak, you're intoxicated now. So it's irritating you. Or typically we'd be okay because we would both be sober. What if he was never okay with it? No, I don't think that's because I don't think we'd be.

be cool right now if not. You know what I mean? Like, let me tell you this. I did some of the grownest shit ever, right? And it was during a process. Like I realized after that situation, I had one other fucked up, not with pimping, but like some of the other than, just dating, being trying to like, let me figure out something else because it's saying working. I'm doing regular square shit again. And I was like, I went to him and the other one. I said, listen, if there's anything that you could change about me or you think as a woman that I could correct or do better at, what would it be? And both those people were like,

yo, like, honestly you were like the easiest bitch I ever had. Like, I'd never had no problem. Hey, man, every bitch say that. I always found the error. No, I'm saying myself. You know what I'm saying? I've always found an error in it, you know?

That might, everybody, every bitch has that story though. You know what I'm saying? Of, you know, I'm a good one. I was good. No, I don't think that. Like, I really thought that I should have practiced some things. But the shit that falls in between the cracks.

I'm a motherfucker. The shit that, be on the ground church, everybody step over. Nobody looking at that. That's the shit that's starting to go unnoticed. And you can't have that there's always something that even brought it to the magnitude of y'all even separating. Just whoever you're with.

I don't get a fuck boyfriend, Fem, the fucking local joker next door. It doesn't matter. There's something. It builds up. It takes two in any format. It's not just you just playing this perfect role and just the motherfuckers getting sick of you being perfect. Maybe that's what a little.

But there's, Maybe he was just tied to me, but that could be it. No, because you know what it is. Because I think it's fake or something. There's no such fucking thing. That's why. So it sounds like maybe that's the insecurity on his side. No, no.

It's just no such thing. So if somebody never knew nothing wrong. You ever heard to say, hey, just because it glitter don't mean it's gold. Yeah, facts. Okay. You got to always keep that in the back of your head on it. But is that my problem? If you mad that I'm not always causing a problem, what you just, what's wrong you?

Why are you something nice? Not a problem. No, not a problem. Just always. questioning or always doing something, just kind of moving in that sense. Because sometimes a man just, listen, a man just want to grab the steering wheel and drive. Go there, day. You don't got time for you to go over and be like, no, but I think we should go this way.

And you're putting your hand now we're over here. You're about to get into a fucking crash. We're about to wreck with eight other cars, fatalities everywhere. I feel you, but you know what I'm saying? I'm just not, I'm chill, bro. I don't really be bothering people like that. I'm very chill. I'm normally in a good mood.

Well, I think, you know, you haven't really spent a lot. long time in it, you were kind of dibble dabbled with it. You were kind of in the game. No, I was in the game strong for nine years straight and I finally retired. From 27 to 35, I was in now. But you had times to where, like you said, I got on my

square shit, you know what I'm saying? I did some stuff, you know what I'm saying? Once I retired and started my show and started doing my podcast and started modeling and started getting social media shit, that's when I was like, okay, like I'm cool, like I need to take a break from that. Honestly, I had a really fucked up situation happened. I had a trick, bleed on me

and not tell me he caught a bloody nose and he was behind me and bled all over my back and it freaked me the fuck out and like I was like I'm done I do not because I had been seeing that trick for seven years and out of seven this would tell me that motherfuckers don't give a fuck about you that's why they always tell you baby

look back at it I hear you and that's what happened because I'm sitting there like this that's the problem you weren't looking back at it your ass was on your phone you know what I'm saying sitting there on social media doing something and let him take care of his business

and you don't understand that this man's nostrils are born. I'm not that slay. I'm not that dumb when they come. I'm on my game. But I get it was a point where I guess I didn't realize a dude had been out. And this has been on a trick for a long time. He didn't do drugs, right? He has a shit happening.

He went to the club. His cousins got him to do some cocaine. So his nose started bleeding on the back of me. But it was so fast. It was like, I mean, the dude always lasted like seven minutes. You know what I mean? So like he back there, we just get started. And he don't tell me.

I'm thinking he's fat and sweating on me. because that's what he always did. He's fat, sweating on me. And I reached down to, like, make sure, because he always reached back to check the condom, make sure everything cool. I reach back to check the condom, and I go like this.

Why don't you look back to see it? It wasn't bleeding on your motherfucker. I can't see past his ass all the time. There's a lot of ass. You got to do it turn your neck. What do you mean? I think it turns to what. Have you ever looked back and seen this cusset moon?

You don't have to take no full 360. Regardless of whatever. It was like within four or five minutes. This was a very quick session. It was a quick, it was my act when I was like, it was like, boom, boom, boom. Hurry, come on, like, next day. I was really busting dates back in the day.

I was, like, put your heart out then. I was doing 15 days a day at one point. A bitch was really running dates. So at that point, I was like, bro, after that happened, I was like, yo, I got tested back to back to back. And I was like, I need a break. And then I switched my game up and I was like, yo, I'm about to. And this was when I was in not with anybody. I was like, switch my game out.

I'm jacking these fucking prices up. If you can't do this and I just switched my whole game. I haven't had no issues since. But I did take a big hiatus and start of focusing on my show. Because I was like, I know if I'm, I want to go mainstream. I can't keep doing it. Well, before we get to that, no,

because we ain't going to skip over you playing in the sex industry as well, didn't you? You ever played in it a little bit? The porn? Yeah. No, no, I mean, do webcam. Yeah. But I've never done boy girl stuff. Even that.

No, no, even that. Because I want to ask, like, when was your first run-in starting to do that type of shit? I was working with Gold Dimes as a company. It's like a dude who has a big page out in Atlanta. I had just moved to Atlanta. Yeah. He had asked me to come model for him. And actually, no, let me take it back in notch because I think.

I was just doing premium snapchats then. That's when everyone just had like that little dirty snap version. And I was like, oh, if you buy it for 50 bucks and I'll, you know, post stuff on there. And I kept getting deleted. 50 bucks. Yeah, like 50 bucks. I saw some 10 bucks for 50 bucks.

Whatever. Fuck it. Shit, I used to fuck for a hundred. But you changed your game though, you said. Switch it up because when I started doing that. You know what? Was you fucking 400 because you just felt like you were game goofy at the time? Yeah.

I think I'm going to be real with you. Every real, every real bitch I ever, like every real stormed down hole like there's been a veteran at that, you know, a real veteran bitch. She'll say, like, in her beginning times, like, man, she was like, man, I didn't know. You know what I didn't know. I didn't know. They didn't know. They thought it was cool. But this is where I go back to.

There comes a certain level where somebody can only take me so forth. That was the game I had at the time. The game I had at the time was, that's what it was. Backpage was bumping. You took little $100 quickies, $200 half hours, $400 hours. And you would try to run it up when you get there. But I was still taking dates at fucking Super 8. You ever been out the country?

To ho? Have you ever been out the country? I've been out the country. If so. Not to hoe. I was about to ask you, have you ever turned, have you ever turned? I've been flown out. But I'm saying, have you ever turned to date over there?

That's different. No. I'm talking about your ass ever like been on vacation, just going to go hang out, right? You didn't have a good year. You know, you want to take you a little vacation, right? You go over, you go over somewhere and you just, you end up busing one in the same hotel. You run into it. I've done that not on like out of the country, but I've definitely like been to Miami or something.

Yeah, for sure. You guys said walk the track in Miami. So, like, definitely. Once he got locked up, I couldn't post that. Yeah. So I was like, I got to go wherever the track is at. Yeah. So.

Wonder what that matter of mind. To give me a chick here and find out what that experience is like. Like going, no. No, fuck no. Oh, going out the country? Just going out the country. And she just ended up starting some tricks. Now she's over there.

I mean, I've heard her bitch's working Dubai. I've heard of that too. But I thought a lot of people, I have a big following in London. And I have people always ask me when you come to London, let me know. Yeah. They like the big knockers. Yeah. They like the big.

So like they like that big thick. Yeah, they like that shit. Yeah, they like that shit. And I don't like wear. They're normal. Yeah. And I don't, like, I have makeup on, but I normally, I don't have like a lot of like big lashes, my faces and like overly, like I don't, don't do Botox or nothing.

So I think like London dudes like that more natural look. I feel like this. When you got, because your body to, let's just say to the trick man, right, your body is very intimidating to them. So you have to find certain, some ways about you to dumb yourself down. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like it'll make it flow better. If you do everything big, you do everything.

You got a big ass, big ditties. Hey, kind of dumb down. Like make yourself more feeling. Yeah, simplify. And see what I'm saying. In other places because there's already shit that's doing the job for you. You know where I learned that game? That game I actually got when I was working at the Bunny Ranch because I realized I would

spend all fucking day. I would spend like an hour and a half get dolled up, glammed up. I was standing in line. The motherfuckerser just ring the bell and they picked the bitch that had no makeup. She just woke up. Every fucking time. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Fuck.

And they would be like, oh, you just looked really expensive. And I was like, you know she's going to hit you over the head three times in Mount I am? She, the bitch was this big. It's hard to do like 6K an hour. And she would get it every time. She was just killing it. People didn't even know she looked like she was 17, but she had like four kids and a husband. Killing the game.

And I was like, damn it. And I was like, I realized I looked too. Was you up there with Air Force Amy and them at the time? Yeah. She's up there, oh, they're old. Yeah, she's supposed to come on the show. Shout out to Air Force Amy. Amy, that's my dog.

She's the real bad. Oh, last. She's the real big. She's the real old. She's the oldest shit now. Oldest shit. Yo, the first year I go to a bunny match. Love her to death, but she's old this fucking dust.

She's coming on the show. She's supposed to come out before Christmas. That'll be a historic. That should be a nice one. Yeah, because I used to work with her. I was my dog. I'm going to get her ass. You should.

I'm going to get her ass. Hey, how'd you get her, send her over to the tank. Yo, listen. She killed me. The first time I ever met her, she had, it was Christmas. I had, it was Christmas. spend Christmas at the ranch. And we sit in there eating our little dinner, like, with all the bunnies.

She had this one trick. I think he's like in his 90s. Old little white dude can't even barely move. Drop 90 bands on her. Boom, I want you for Christmas. And he would do it every year, give her $90,000 at Christmas. And he would sit there and have dinner with us. And she would laugh at all his jokes.

Nobody understood them. But she would just like, listen to me, 90 grand. You're going to be hysterical fucking, you're going to be hysterical too. She ran me so much gay. I was like, yes, bitch. I want to be just like you. But aren't you going to laugh too?

Yes. We just never drop $90,000 on your left. Everything you say is my name. Everything you say. Yes, I got. Hey, he'd be like this. My mom died. I lost my house.

Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so young. Like, I'm going to just be programmed. At that point. A little robot. I was a matter. Shit.

She was in the best game, though, with that. I was like, okay, I see you, Air Force. Do you believe a chick should be with someone, that resonates with the lifestyle she may be in, whether it's selling sex or just, you know what I'm saying? Whether it's prostitution, cam work, whatever.

Only fans. It does make it easier. You know, seeking arrangements. Think arrangements is crazy. Here's a twist for him. Christian mingle. Catching one or two up on that motherfucker. They got funny to spin too.

I bet you. Listen, I honestly, I feel like it is easier. it is easier to be with somebody who's in the same life cell because you don't have to explain so much. Yeah. And any time that I have tried to date since I was like retired and in the square game and always, you know what the biggest issue is?

Motherfugers who are in the game understand about not wasting your fucking time because motherfuckers will waste your time. But when you're a hustler and I'm a hustler and we understand our money, our time is so expensive. I have somebody right there that'll give me fucking $5,000 for my time. Stop wasting it.

You're sitting here like as a square, giving you my time. That's the hardest part about dating. As a square, I'm sitting here like, I'm not even charging you. I'm giving my time because I fuck with you and you're wasting my time when I'm a bullshit. You got me sitting here waiting 30 minutes for you to show up to dinner. Like, bro, no, I'm out. I don't have patience for that. I'd rather deal with truth. No, just I like, when I've like tried to like get to know people or try to date on some square. I'm like, but every time I'm like, yo, I'm getting back to the money. I'm dating somebody in the game. I can't. I'm over it. I don't want to deal with it. I can't

deal with this. Well, it's very hard for you to deal with somebody in the game. Under the circumstances, It sounds like, you know, you want to live a very, you know, normal life today. And there's nothing wrong with that. If that's what you want to do and you want to step out. But me and you both know you cannot have your cake and eat it too soon. No, that's why, honestly. Not in that. Not when it comes to like pimping and hoeing, no, I'm not going to go that route.

But there are other sex workers that are male as well that are easy to take with it. You know what I mean? That's fine too. But me and you were just on the game. Now we're going to porn here. But then you asked me like cam or whatever. I feel like it is easier, but I'm more on this side of this. now. Like I'm not out here busing and day like I used to. So Pimpin and Hohen now made sense

because it was out here in the streets together. But now that I'm like more mainstream and I'm doing things a little bit different, I have to kind of be with somebody who's more mainstream and gets that stuff. That gets the social media. That gets that understands like back at Pimpin, having a game, like having an Instagram, no, that was not happening. You know what I mean? Like you're distracted. You don't got time for that. Now I was like, no, the game is Instagram, social media. Like that is what's bringing us a bag. So let's focus on that now instead of having to use our bodies and use our mind.

I can get more through a camera than I could ever get sitting in a hotel. I get paid like $300 just for a 10-minute face time now. I had a buck for 100 before. It's just a different game. So now I have to be with somebody who gets that side of it. Your podcast.

Down the rabbit hole. Yes. Riley Rabbit. Riley Rabbit. What the fuck? How did you get started with that one? So I started off as Riley Ray. Riley Ray was...

That's what I wanted to fucking call you. Riley Ray was my... That's your name. That's my own name. That's my own name. Stand behind it. I am Riley Ray. Everything it says, aka Riley Ray.

That's what my name was at the bunny ranch. Just what, honestly, my first P gave me that name. It was just Riley at first. And then I think we saw someone else on the pages, had Riley too. So we had to switch the spelling and then add the ray on it. And he was like, I just want you sound like a little wholesome country girl. So I did really well in the country. Like, I go down a text, clean out.

You know what I mean? but I switched over because honestly I kept losing Instagrams. I got deleted up to like 800,000, 900,000, 700,000, 700,000, I've lost like 10 grams. So I eventually got tired of like, there's no more combinations of Riley Ray that were even available that looks like similar. Why were you losing them because of your name? You feel like? I started modeling for the gold dimes, dude.

Oh, because once they, no, no, it makes sense. That's my bad because you were saying, no, because you were like, there's only so many ways you could spell that name to still let them know it's you. to follow your Instagram when they shut you down on that other Riley Ray. Yeah. So I got to switch it up. So I was like, cool. And then people always were like,

oh, you always look like a, like a cocoa mix with a Jessica Rabbit. I was like, cool. So I'm just like Riley and add the rabbit because it was like the last rabbit there was was Jessica Rabbit. So that kind of just played it. Because I mean, I'm very curvy,

so it just went with it. Curvy. Very curvy. Okay. Thick as fuck, whatever you want to call it? Curvy. I mean, shit. I mean, girl, you got to build like a brick shit house.

I mean, you know what time. Yeah. Thubber bill. Thick bitch. Hey, man. I got a fuckable body. Whole lot of woman. Yeah.

I can't. But this bitch. The transitioning into podcasting and doing that coming from your background. How was that for you? You know, just even taking that change. How was that felt for you? I love it. I've always been a very social person.

I think that was kind of a hard part of being in the game, too. was that I want to talk to people. I want to be around people. You know, like, when you're in the game, you can't do that. Like, you've got to stay with your team or you shut the fuck up. Martina was saying something like that to me.

Like, she just felt like she wanted to be able to really blossom, you know? Yeah, yeah, similar. And, like, and I had too much respect for the people I was with at the time. Regardless of that man, put his hands on me or not, I really did love the fuck out of him and we had major respect,

and I would have never left. It just was a fucked up night. I'm going to leave it at that. You should have, but I'm a feel, listen, I'm trying to, I'm trying to resonate with you on that one and I feel like honestly you might have been able to get through that

I could have and I'm not saying like yeah let's turn you into a fucking personal punching bag that's not even where I'm wrong with it but what if it would have might have not ever again first time shame on it look and I look at it like this

because everybody run their program different but if that's what it was first time shame on me you know what I'm saying first time shame you're saying like I'm not going to sit there It was the second time I ever got. Second time, it's shame on you.

I'm not playing no more games. I think that should fall for anybody. Yeah, no, I don't feel you on that. I do. And honestly, I battled with it back and forth. I went back for a few, like two or three. I'm not a lot. I went back for a little bit, and I was like, bro, I cannot let it go.

I think what it was, like, I had known that man since high school. So he was really my friend. So when it happened, it really hurt my feelings. I'm like, damn, friend. Like, we don't try that. Hey, even though I fuck with him. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

You know what I'm saying? on now. I hear you, but that shit didn't fuck me up. Friendship, okay, yeah, but you understood the game though, right? I got him. You understood the game, right? I did. And so, like you said, so you know that sometimes that. But we shook on it coming into it because he knew. So you told, you tell him, I told him, I told him before I was, I told him, signed on the dotted line.

Like, look, before I give you this, if you ever hit me, I'm gone. Definitely had that conversation. Definitely had that conversation. Because I've been in a situation when I was, before I got in the game, when I was described, like 23, 24. That's not in a deficit. to get on his end.

Well, that's, I mean, then he signed it. Because if you look at it like this, I can already tell, Riley, I can tell you got a little mouth on you too. I do. Because you know how to speak. So you got a little mouth and you always got something to say. So I know for a fact, if there's some shit going on, you're not just going to sit back and just be like, okay, well, yeah,

let me stay in my place, my belly. I learned how to, though. I did. I'm not going to let you say that. But, okay, may have learned how, but look at some of the things that may have That particular, I just said I was drunk. It wasn't what it was. Were you drunk too?

Yeah, I was drunk too. We were both drunk. So yeah, that's only one side of the story I'm getting here. No, that's what I told you. I said we had been drinking. He was on pills. I had been drinking. Man, listen, I hope he's retired.

I want to find church and really talk to him about it. Because that's two sides to every motherfucking story. He's not going to come on here. But I do know that you know him. Damn. You definitely could have a conversation when if you want to know. Yeah, I do. Go ask him.

We'll talk about that. We'll talk about it. After the. mixture, you know what I'm saying? Let a fuck out of him. I'm not going to drop his name though because he's still very active and I'm not going to like fuck off his shit. But listen, he was cool.

It was what it was. But he had known that I had already been in a, before I'd even dropped in the game, I had a little fucked up situation happen. Dude almost tried to kill me. He was insane. Like locked me in the house, like this and crazy shit. So we already knew it was an issue for me. And I'd already made a promise to myself that I would never let it happen again.

And I might have to speak on it because, and I don't know the brother. And I hope if there's a problem, I hope he's a problem. I hope he's well. You know what I'm saying? There's so wrong with that one. He was fucked up. But I want you to know something. Like some people disguise themselves as certain shit.

Like, you know, and they really do have a fucked up problem. That shit don't be having nothing to do with the game. That's really just how that person is. Yeah. But that the first time was not, it wasn't in a game situation. This was like I was definitely a square. I was walking on a school. You know, thank you for clearing that up.

It was not game. It was also. I've been fucked up more. times by a square than I ever did by game. My game was always cool. Both my folks were solid, cool-ass human. Fucking quote that. They was cool.

They were adopting that one. We're costing fucking exes on all. That's the, go ahead. Say the same thing. Even with the first one, like, I had everything I needed. I was happy. I was happy in both of my situations. They just.

But you say you had more fucked up violent situations more with, with a swobie. With a square person. He was a Navy boy. With a square person. he might get, okay, so yeah, he'd be, he'd go get drunk soon as he'd get off the ship, he'd come home, you know what, he faded. Do we had a whole other family in another city I didn't even know about.

Lying. Had a whole other life, a whole other family. He had told me that his wife took his kid, they had a separation, they moved out. I was living in this house, wife in another house, had no idea. I'm going to school. I'm real squared up. I think I was like in school to be a medical assistant at the time. Really square.

See, I'm going to say this. Beat the fuck out of me. You've done a lot. Like, I'm not saying, yo, finish the story. I get bored. I get bored. I get bored. Once I learn and master something, I want to learn something else.

You was playing in different, like, you would bounce back and forth to it. No, this was all, listen, this was all prior to the age of 27. Once I, everything was squared in. Once I had 27, I had an epiphany. I was out work. I hated my job. I said, I don't want to do this shit. I knew people in the game.

I feel like at that point, if you haven't got. I feel like at that point, I'm not saying people can't get in it, but I feel like at that point, at 27, you've already created your own outlook to what life already is. I was very open-minded, though, at that point. But you already had so many other experiences. So you're going to look at things like, you know, these are my beliefs. But I think that that's what made the relationships between me and that, me and them so good.

Because I had already been like, I had already almost been married. I had already been to school. I didn't really need them for much. Like, I was very self, like, I could go do me, come back with my bag. bother nobody. I cooked that clean. Yeah, I'm minding my business. I'm gonna say, that's why I was saying, clarified a little bit better because you don't want to say

like, it was just the way you had said it. Like, I don't know, fuck me up a little bit. Honestly, I went, deal what the fuck I needed to do when I came home and I didn't bother nobody. That's what it was. I didn't have to be taught how to act like a lady. I didn't need them for nothing. I didn't need. I didn't like that part. Okay, I see what you're saying. I didn't like that. I didn't. I didn't, I didn't. No, I needed them for the game

that they had. Yeah. And I needed them for the security of, yeah. You didn't need them for nothing as and sending you out of you can get on auto and you'd be straight. I didn't need them to teach me how to be a lady. I'd already knew how to be a lady and be self-sufficient. I needed you to teach me how to take this shit to the next level. Yeah. That's what are you, okay, so in the next levels, what would you be expecting to receive?

What would you want to feel like when you tell, okay, I'll give you an example. So when you're sitting there and you feel like, okay, we've gotten everything else. Like, okay, take me to the next level. Okay, what's your idea so we could take to the next level? At the time, like I said, what if I got all the money in all the fucking time? You want to hear, you want to hear something. I'm crazy. Don't fucking veer all.

No, no, no, no. I'm gonna tell you. What if I had all the money and all the time? Honestly, okay. Okay. They had the second one had all the money in the time. When I told that man that I wanted to start a podcast. I could pick something for you, right?

What? I said, I could pick something for you. If I had all the money all the time, right? Because that's what it means, like take you to the next level. We've already touched it all, right? Yeah. In the game, we've already touched it all. To me, that's what I'm doing now.

Take it to the next level. That's what I'm doing now. What would you want? What would you expect? What would you like, what are you looking for? Yeah. I think it would just be like helping me, like helping me start a business and like helping them that thrive and support that.

You have to have those fucking ideas. I do though. Bring the ideas. I did. The last one I told about the podcast. I had the money and the time. I had the podcast and he laughed in my face about it. He had the money in the time.

He was like, good luck. He was like podcast. Because that, listen, because he, me and you both know. He knew he couldn't do that route. Some people, no, not even just that. Me and you both know if you're fucking with podcasts. or anything that social media comes on camera, right? You have to have some type of it factor.

Yeah. Some type of real shit that people can resonate with. And everybody saw it. And find some substance with him. And everybody saw them. Yeah. So did I. Love you.

But you don't even support my dream and then you hit me. So I'm out. I love you to death. You're a great person. I thank you for what we did. You got me for being a $200 bitch to a $1,500 bitch. Cool. put me in a foreign. I'm always be appreciative. I had a house when I was with him. I was doing

my shit. But I get it at your age, but look, at your age, at your age, at your age, you didn't want that though. Like you didn't, you wanted that, you'm saying, you needed a house, something bought. Like you were getting to that point to where you're like, well, fuck, you know. He put me on better than anybody ever did. I'm not going to take that from him. Right. And he's every bitch he's ever touched, that's better when they're with him. I'm not going to lie. And I don't think that every, listen, I'm not against, obviously I'm not against pimping. I'm not against hoeing. I'm not against any of that shit. That's what I'm not against about. I hope you

not just, we're not against life. Yeah, I'm not against life. People do what you want to do. I, my grandfather went to work every day, every day working at NASCO, brought his check home and handed it over to his wife. He knew he was not good with money. He knew his wife was. So whether what is different between that and me going out in a bag and bring it to my dude and then

you go do and get what I need to get done? Cool. Appreciate that. And I never had to worry about anything when I was either one of them. I was a very, very fucking happy. But there comes a point when I need to be able to shine because that's just who I am. Like, I knew, I didn't get married because I knew that wasn't what I was. I knew that there was something bigger for me. I didn't stay with him because I knew this wasn't it. I wasn't supposed to just be somebody's bottom bitch. I was supposed to be the one next to him rocking with him. But I was never going to get that same level because they've been pimping for so long. You're always going to be right here.

What are you looking? But look though, but what are you looking for? Like honestly, you know what the fuck you signed up for when you got with it. Yeah. You can't all of a sudden six months down the line want to change the narrative in your mind, sweetie. It wasn't that though. And start going to sign in these different, these different fucking, you know what I'm saying? Contracts in your mind that you feel like, oh, well, this shit should change. It shouldn't change.

I'm presented to you. If you don't want to change with me, then I'm going to go do it myself. Why don't you just present that shit in the beginning? Because maybe I wasn't married. And let me know, that's what she doesn't. I'm really looking for. Life happens. Life happens, right?

Today, like, I just ran into you yesterday on a whim. Now there's a new opportunity, right? Every day a new opportunity presents itself. I might have fucking know. You saw me in the lobby and I got a DM. I did. Shit in there. First of all, I'm trying to get on your show, motherfucker.

I've got to get you on my show. What's up? Listen, we're at the players ball. We were. We were at the player ball. This happens, you know, I have so much respect for the man that I was talking about in the beginning. Actually, both of them were at the players ball. So we, and they're so cool.

with me, I bought a table at his fucking party. It's always a birthday party. It's always a birthday party. You know the players balls are not what they used to be. There is no players balls. There is no players balls. It is a birthday party. People don't realize that. There's birthday parties, man. It is Bishop Don Juan's birthday party every year. They do a player's team. No, we just do a birthday. Yeah, birthday party. Yeah. Baby girl, we're not going to do that. So regardless, it is a big ass birthday party. Thank you. It always is though. Every year it's a birthday party. It's Bishop's birthday party. Every year, that's his birthday party. We wish him a happy birthday. Yeah. Happy birthday to you. You know, it's nothing, it's nothing crazy. What I'm saying is I bought a table

with people who I used to deal with, right? So I'm like, that everyone knows there was an indictment about it. They know, like, and I'm still going to show up and show mad respect and love, and they show enough respect for me. So let me be a bitch walk in there with my team and my people and be like, boo, cool. There was no party ever thrown under them circumstances. It was a birthday party. No, nobody, you said, but people being, you know, under the circumstances and, you know, all the shit, right? But there was no party ever thrown under them circumstances. It was a nice free-for-all party.

Okay. Everybody was hanging out. It was a birthday party. People were having drinks. It's a play. People do this at high school. College do you. Couple tacos, couple laughs.

Do they don't do this? Few coronas on the table. College parties don't do this. Regular shit. Yeah. College parties all the time. They have pivotal parties. Colleges.

They're white boys. You never seen that shit. Frat parties. fraternities, they have pay me a whole party. A theme? It's a themed party. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Everybody's just some regular clothes at these parties. The ones I go to fly. I don't know about you, but I was like fly. I was in some regular, no, I had a T-shirts and jeans. Regardless, I would try to be on each other's show. Yes, we was at this birthday party. It was a dope-ass birthday party. It was a very themed birthday party.

I go to, I've been to a few. I always a good time. Like, I'm very, like, cool with all these people. So it's just like, you know, like, I'm just in a situation where it was no problems. And I started my show. It's just I needed to do what was right for me at that time because it was not going to be what was good for them and we all know at that point that's what matters.

What made you bring up the party in Daigo again? You brought up the party. Oh, I think I just brought it because like I didn't have no issues with nobody I dealt with. That's what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like everyone's so cool.

It was good. It was nice for me to be in a place where it was nice to be in a place where I still had the same respect even though I wasn't in the same position. Do you know what I mean? That's what was nice. By people in my peer group and like people that I dealt with in a different way. And it's like, yo, it didn't matter that I was out here mainstreaming and doing shit the way I did it now.

They still was like, yo, I fuck with it. It's so tough. Because I was so cool with everybody and I didn't step out of line. I wasn't a fag. I wasn't out of pocket. I wasn't weird. I'm minding my business. Shit didn't work out the way it didn't work out.

Life happened. I went my way and there's and I still mad respect. And I can pull up to any situation where in those people are and still be respected. And like, that's what mattered to me. That was a big deal to me. Before we get out of here, I'm going to bring your ass back. I just feel like, there's some shit I want to know. You just want to scratch the surface.

Yeah, I just want to scratch it. But I just got one more question before we do get out of here. And I want to know, for real. What do you think about the chicks coming up in the industry or in the game today? And do you feel like they follow the same code of respect, you know, the people that were doing it before? No, I don't feel like they do at all. I felt like the game is washed up and fucked up. And I feel like the biggest issue is that

The biggest issue in the world right now Not only in the game is the level of respect, manners, things like that I feel like it used to be like a gentleman sport Not everyone just out here just free fucking and being wild I mean it's very weird to me And that's actually something I'm learning too Just like dealing with more like adult industry Like porn stars and like people in that world

There's like back in the day you didn't do that If it wasn't money and it wasn't that You just, now everyone's just kind of like high and fucking, we weren't allowed to do drugs. We weren't allowed to drink unless it was your time off and it was your night off. I was in the best shape of my life.

I was on top of my shit. I wasn't like we didn't play. You weren't doing it. It was business time. So now everyone just seems like they're just lit, high on drugs. And a lot of people just, they see what they see on social media

and they think that that's what life is. It's not all real. We do a lot of editing. And don't get it twisted. Just because that bitch got something and don't mean that you deserve it. And everyone thinks like, well, she got it, so I deserve it. Bitch, you ain't this shit.

Who the fuck are you? You think because you got a BBL last week, all of a sudden you deserve the same work that I put in? But bitches do that. They build their self overnight. They go get that confidence. And I'm not mad at it. I ain't mad at it either.

Get your bag. They get that confidence. Yeah, because I start to see, listen, you and the next girl can have the same fucking body. Doesn't mean that she's going to do the right thing with it, calling herself being in the game that you would do. Well, and I think. the biggest going with it, right?

Like, back in the day, there was like a, there's like a due process. There was a checks and balance kind of thing. You made sure you did your references. You checked shit. And it was like, if you hit up another chick and ask them like, yo, you dealt with this person before. They always was respectful. And now it was like, bitches are hating.

Like, God forbid you get an extra little bit of money out the dude and you didn't get your back. Like, I just feel like people looked out for each other a little bit more. Now it's just like a free for all. Fuck you. Like, everyone's out for their self. You know what I mean? I understand that your goal should.

be like what can get you in the best position, but you ain't got to take people down in the process. People are messy. They talk too fucking much. You know, yeah, I heard a certain somebody on the other podcast was talking crazy about me, right? She was here at, um...

You'd be going hard on some of these bitches. I'm gonna tell you this. No, you know what? If you knew, let me tell you something. If you say you came from any of the backgrounds that I came from in that same division, your ass know why. And you know why we get down the way we get down.

Honestly, every bitch you've ever checked, deserved it. I'm gonna say it. Come on, honey. I ain't never played it. What am I supposed to do, sit there and downplay myself when I know I have the knowledge to tell them about what the, hey, come on. Now, we don't play that. That shit sounds foreign to me. I ain't never been around no real bitch.

I ain't never been around no real bitch and heard what some of these bitches say. They're crazy. And think that that shit's cool. But like you were saying earlier, you get a fucking BBL to, and you come and sit on pillows on our couches. You know, your little butt pillows. And you come through here, you know, and you get to talking all. all that shit. I think you saw that have manners.

It's funny, but it's just funny to me. You know, there's really no respect for, you know, the real, like taking the knowledge. Like, I'm a little old, like, some of the people that I interview, I said it before, like, I'm 13 years,

they senior. So there's a huge gap. You know what I'm saying? Into what I learned. You know what I'm saying? And just things that I feel like should be still used. Honestly, yeah, it's just a lot of respect.

It's fucking gotten out of hand. It's got out of hand. It's got out of hand. And I think like everyone just think And the boyfriend pimping thing is really bad too Like it's just like everyone Whole hustlers I call him Weekend Warriors

I call him whole hustlers Ho hustlers Break that down for me friend Where you just hustle holes Oh yeah yeah You know he don't really do nothing for him He don't really try to get him You know what I'm talking about for real

Like where he's taking care of his He's eating hot Cheetos Yeah come on man He ain't really he ain't really doing much man He on the Xbox But bitches like that Bitches don't want somebody that's serious Because then they got to get serious.

No, not even just that. She don't got to really worry about losing that nigger because he ain't an ain't shit-ass-nig. What's funny is, they'd be losing them faster. It's crazy. I stayed more solid when I had a solid real, real pee, like who was really down doing a shit and on point and wasn't fucking off. You want somebody.

I'll way rather deal with that. You want somebody who's busy or somebody who always has time for you. No, I want someone that's on a shit. I don't got time to be in your face all the fucking day. So how, like, no, I want you on your shit. Yeah. We can go get it together. Cool, I'll drop you all where you need to go.

Y'all go where I go all. I'll go all. But you have to go back to some of your, see, this is what I want to dive into next. I'm going to get this off. Fuck that. Then we're going to go. But you know, you wanted to really have your cake and eat it too. Of course.

Who doesn't? It's cake. No, where you was like, I want to be priority. I wanted. The priority has to be taking care of motherfucking business first. The priority had been. And we are at a time. It had been taken care of for five years strong.

It was back to back to back to back to back to back. priority taking. Try 20, 30, 40. Then we're going to talk about that shit. Where's mine at then? Come on, we only got one life to live. Do we even got another 40 to give you? Hey, listen. Think we got another 40? You think we're going to make it? I don't know. I'll think we're going to make it. Honestly.

40? What am I now? Another 40? Yeah, I feel like it. Yeah, I'm cool. I started I started to stop. You know why? I stopped stressing out. I start getting a fuck with people thing. Yeah, number one thing you have to stop. Moistrized, drink water, and stop stressing so fucking much. You did. You can't control people. What they're going to do with you.

Hey, and keep the next motherfucking name out your mouth. This is all the time that we have, man. I don't want to share as water, but. Hey, it's all good, baby. Shit, I appreciate you having me on. Hey, man. Shout out to Hamilton Devices.

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And I'm going to, I'm going to get your ass back. We're going to come on your. I'm coming to your house. I'm going to talk about much. Oh yeah, you're coming on my account. Hey. I'm going to fuck your shit up one time. My shit crazy, though.

We're getting a couple episodes. Hey. See, y'all. We're going, y'all got to come down the rabbit hole with me. Yeah, for sure. Oh, I'm going to come up over there. I'm going to bring them up over there. We're going to see what it's really about.

I'll come down. It's wild. It's a little funky asshole one time. Yeah. Make sure that motherfucker decorated nice, full of liquor and droll. I got it. A sharp tank. No jumper.

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