No Jumper - Sada Baby & Adam Squash Their Beef, King Von, Akademiks, EST Gee & More

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

Sada Baby and Adam talk about their past misunderstanding, Sada's career, relationships with Von, Skilla Baby, Tee Grizzley, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, we finally reunite after many, many moons. Many moons. Many moons. What's up, Abby? A whole shitload of moons. Sada baby is back at the table.

Thank the Lord. Hello, motherfass. People like us as a duo, so it's probably a relief for a lot of people to see this pop up in the subscription tab. We like us. You know what I'm saying? we we we we wasn't us for a while because of me and that's okay oh so you're taking full accountability because I feel like I I there's a whole conversation to be had about that about our little we got we got it I feel like

trans people ruin everything bro this is a theme this is a theme you start early you start early but um I feel like What I was expecting was like, how can I put it? All right, so my heart big as hell, you know what I'm saying? And like when I build a report with somebody, you know, I'd be like basing it off as much genuine acts as possible. And I felt like you had did so many of those things towards my weight. I was like, bro, really with me.

You know what I'm saying? Like that's my friend more so than you were a media personality. You know what I see your platform like repose to ignorance that I see it. You feel me? I didn't take it as a media personality reporting hot media. You feel me? I took it as my homeboy trying to slight me for some odd reason. And it's always going to be hard for me to separate the two,

but in the same token, I didn't look at it from a bunch of different ways. I just looked at it from I wanted to have. attitude way and I already was getting a lot of slack for it and I felt like at that point in time you added to the slack I didn't look at it like that was your job for you to report like that's what you do any way you know what I'm saying I didn't

put no bias into it there's two different types of rappers because like all right there's some some girl who used to be on the blue face girls club who was just hitting me up trying to come on the podcast or whatever and she wants to talk shit about him and Jaden or whatever and you know I'm thinking about it

and I'm like oh is blueface gonna be mad at me because you know we're cool blue face he's my pal and then I'm like blue face is the kind of person that would be perfectly happy for me to create a storm of controversy because he's the extreme example of somebody who's just like any attention is good any attention can eventually be funneled back into making some money and to me if I'm sada baby I'm trying to be in the news every week for saying some crazy that part but on the other hand it's a fine line between being yourself and being the version of yourself that might generate the most headlines which might eventually generate more streams and more interest in your music or whatever and this is the game

that we all play is the the challenge between do you want to be yourself or do you want to become a marketing machine. I know that too. It's, what did you want, call it a battle or something when you're going back and forth in between, like, I could say this, and I know it's going to come behind me saying this, and then do I feel like dealing with

what's going to come with me saying this? You know what I'm saying? So, like, my thing now is I will fully comment a heartfelt response about some that I don't got nothing to fucking do with me like about some some rapper beef or some babe mama celebrity woo-whoop and before I press post I just delete it because usually why I owe me a press post and then you know what I say you get trolls and but you might not get trolls you might get a whole other blog to screenshot your comment and make a post of that you know what I'm saying so it's like no here is everybody got

opinion whatever they say that like that like I got opinion on everything I see every time just like anything excuse me that would have to do with me a random up having opinion about I just type it in and before I post it I just delete it because my mouth they got me into a whole lot of trouble so you have all these walls set up to basically prohibit you from destroying your own career yeah just trying not to do no bullshit you know what I'm saying like this that we say like is nothing is that breaks the internet or like up everything nowadays right you know I'm saying and even though a lot of people with common sense know like

he don't necessarily mean it like that or like that's just the era he grew up in talking it just don't matter you can't say it right but even it doesn't even have to be some controversial shit about gay people or race or anything like that but okay right now if there was like an album that just came out and you were just like that shit weakest oh Lord sada baby down so-and-so's throat it's a in war zone they're gonna make it into such a thing and that is such a normal thing to say if you were like oh you hear the new so-and-so album I'd be like that shit sucks that's a super normal thing for us to say off camera you say it on

camera oh my god is like y'all know y'all see the memes because I know we are in our own respective group chats you know what I'm saying I'm in three group chats full of boo-uh you know what I'm saying like if the group chat with me and my Mexicans get leaked what I'm canceled 67 times because you're getting a Mexican group chat I got some essays in Harvard you feel me shout out zay you feel me shout out weasel potto you feel me Nick Bernardo fetti weird ass see and and like I are usually called fetti another word you feel me but i can't do that you know what i'm saying and the hummies when y'all see this y'all know what word we call fettie because he's that but do they call you a hard r man listen

so look so look this the thing with us with that right we play so my relationship with them came from gaming right so and if anybody is an avid gamer and and and if you a gamer with common sense you play call a duty because that's the get up with your homies game you feel me if you know what the Loading lobbies are it's still like that nigger I thought they started like blocking everybody it's impossible it's not popular like they'll do shit like okay so say say you mute the you mute the load and lobby because you know what you about to hear right on the plane on the plane a mother who will start up in the all chat and be like type one if you don't like such and such and yeah and it's just like so our our relationship came from

gaming you feel me so we dance around that all the time but like jokingly with each other because we still come from an era to where like it was some shit to be joked about like their hard are as you know the uh being with it with the with the er at the end you feel me now don't nobody say it that's like that's like they hard are like you know saying like but don't nobody say it just like how right in today's age like you really got to be a super hard race is to be walk around seeing a hard are anyway you get me but like they don't said about it but like it's like that we joke about that we know like if we was to joke about it or or people was to know we was on camera talking about like

it'd be a uproar you know what I'm saying because you would get branded as like oh Sada babies into this edgy racist humor like even any down-planet and it's not sensitive about it doja cat has an edgy weird internet sense of humor and she like will post weird memes sometimes or you'll realize that she's into like weird internet comedians and shit like that but then like it always just be comes to like doja cat is a secret not every supporter so you have her she's like way too famous to have like a weird quirky sense of humor and and anyone with any level of fame is too famous to have like a weird love for like racist humor you know what you know what that's like twitch

i feel like anybody who's a part of the twitch community they'll tell you that's where you get your most genuine love from yeah it takes a lot of love to sit there and just watch somebody live. This is what I'm trying to tell you. You know, watch a clip afterwards, not that dedicated. But sit there and watch them laugh. Right. And that's some shit I understand from like everybody who be in my Twitch.

And I tell them I appreciate them all the time because, you know, they, they're buying subs. Then they're about a minute. You know what I'm saying? Just to sit in there, right? That allows me to show a side of, Sada baby, that I try to illustrate in my music with my metaphors and references from cartoons to wrestlers and all that type of shit. but because of the way I exert my energy, the way I dress and draw attention to the way I dress me dancing and being as much of a personality that I am, I get put in the box of just entertainment more so than being a lyricist. So the sad of me that I try to illustrate through my music, like with the video games and my knowledge of Halo or being big in the Greek mythology and stuff like that, I get to show it on.

the video game side on Twitch and it correlate back to my music to where people will be sitting there watching me and they be like oh this what you meant by such and such a did it like it still helped me show what i've been trying to show to my music for a long time and it goes back to that weird sense and humor that we're not supposed to have you know what I'm saying or the shit that we're not supposed to be joking at that we still kind of joke at like it a damn near come up around there or you'll be playing a game like call of duty and you will hear it you feel me and the 1998 you giggle a little bit

but you have to let the audience know we don't condone this you know what I'm saying this not what we stand for because it's not like we're pushing out on the kids no way but I know I grew up in the air to where a motherfucker

might have said some shit like that and we'd laugh because it was funny like you know we're not going to see certain movies get made ever again oh yeah like you remember the movie the program

the football movie a little bit listen all you got to remember is a little bit of it they will never ever make a movie like that again. They don't even make a varsity blues again. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Like just showing how to, what's the scene in there that's like? Was the frats getting drunk as fucking all that. The old, the, the, the, the senior who graduated 10 years ago still putting up to the high school parties. Like you, because that happened in varsity blues, right? You feel me? But that's some shit that goes on. But they wouldn't dare illustrate that in a new movie today to say that this is the shit that be happening at your child.

precious $100,000 donated high school, your book, you go. All your boosters. All your boosters is paying for, yeah. Remember Davy Smith from the 2005 playoff run? You almost won states. Yeah, he's still at these parties. Right.

Still. Yeah, that's a bad look. Yeah, they don't want it. They're not going to illustrate that, but that shit that goes on. Like, it's so much shit in the old movies that was like, yeah, that's normal life. And that's why I was so funny.

If you, if you play a show and they invite you to a college party afterwards are you down I did it a couple times yeah and my my thing is I couldn't I'm way too old I've been too old for a no no no not like not like I never been to like a like a like I haven't been in a dorm or on it like like a like a campus like that since I was right probably 18 19 dorm is like that but I've had a show at a college and they booked me at the after party and every anybody is freshmen's and sophomores and you can tell by they dressed And yep, but shit, I'm getting paid. So I'm going to sit here, drink a couple shots, laugh at y'all.

You get the fuck home. You know what I'm saying? Like, the only thing I don't do is like birthday parties. Why? It's just too corny? Just because I told so many of my family members know. So it's like I can never let myself get booked for one. You know what I'm saying?

What about bar mitzvah? That's different. I'm doing a Kensington or a bar mitzvah. Really? Yeah. Damn, is that racist? Because I'm not doing black people shit. I was thinking that would be the main problem is that you would be happy to play to a backyard of black people, but that the Jewish community.

No, you don't get it. No. It's too personal. If I go, if I, if I perform in a backyard like with my family or some black people, that's just because I just want to do it. You feel me? But like, me actually having a show in the backyard, the show won't happen. You know what I'm saying? The show won't happen.

everybody going to be pulling me every which way you hear me I barely be able to walk to the backyard you know what I'm saying right like it's just a little different but like a bar mitzvah and like all right I'm gonna break it out I'm break down bar mitzvah you gonna get that money oh yeah you're saying you're gonna get the heavy ass front end they're gonna probably they gonna ask you what you eat you know what I'm saying it's a bar mitzvah you know they go all out kensayana who don't want a bunch of Mexican food you know what I'm saying real Mexican food You been Pesolet, Manulo, you know what I'm saying? Agua Chilae's all that type of shit.

Now, your auntie booked you for a birthday party. You're going to tell her the price. She's going to say she got it. It's going to be a little short when you get there. She's going to try to pay you in food. Auntie going to try to give you a couple plates. You know what I'm saying? And smack your chest.

Don't be like that. The fuck you're talking about this. This is my job. You're talking about your aunt or just like an auntie? Just like an auntie in general. Yeah, like, if it was, if it was one of my aunts, like, it would probably go like that. Because it's got to be tough to charge your own aunt for a show. I don't.

That's why I don't, I try not to do nothing musically with family. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't want them, for one, I don't want to under or overcharge nobody that I related to. You know what I'm saying? And then I don't want to, I can't let nobody book me at all because the moment I let one family even book me, the family going to think that's what they can do. They can book me. No, man.

uh-uh it's all about boundaries yeah yeah it's is about boundaries and that's just you know i daren't want to talk to my family and and and just be cj yeah exactly just be my daddy son like mark me and my grandma my daddy mama she don't talk to me about music i don't think she ever asked me one question about rap like i don't think my grandma even ever asked me one fucking question about rap right right like I damn never tried to talk to her about it and she went with the other way you know what I'm saying like that's I wanted I wanted to just be what it even though in a sense it had never all the way be the same you what I want to be like that as much as possible I feel like I have a fork in the

road that I kind of have to decide at a certain point over the next few years which is basically like do you want to expose your kid to your pretty cool life or do you want to just completely just be a dad 100% don't bring her to anything don't ever have her around shit it's a tough decision i don't know if i'll if i really have as much of a choice as i feel like i do um well it's that's that's i think it's i think it just depends all the way on on how you want her to look at shit bro you know what i'm saying because my two nieces i don't got kids but like my two nieces wanted to I look at them like my kids and yeah it's a bunch of shit that I don't even you know I'm saying they only four and two but

it's a bunch of shit that I already foreshadowed that I'm like I don't want them to be involved in or like I know I make sure I don't my my the one that's four she just started school as bad as I want to take her to school I'm not doing it you know what I don't want the school to know that this is out of baby's niece right you know what I'm saying because as much as you thing it might get some favoritism whatever I don't even want that and then I don't I don't I don't want nobody else nitpicking where they're just because she my niece so like that's a it's a touchy thing right there because they're going to end up finding out eventually but like right now

I feel like they're too young for to be giving them extra attention because they know that they my niece right where are you going to have a kid I don't know I don't know I'm gonna have one though but I don't know you're looking for the right girl the right BBL Not the BB. The BB shouldn't make nobody want to have a kid. No, that's not the vibe. Man, nah, because what you're looking for is already false. Like, the BBL should make you horny.

It shouldn't make you want to have a kid with it. Yeah, but when you get horny, you end up having a kid. It's usually the order of events. No. You get horny enough and you shoot the club up. You can get horny. You got a horny. You got a kid. you get horny and and never have a kid i've been horny a thousand times i ain't got no kids you're

the rare rapper who's good at pulling out that's so funny that you say that not a condom guy you're not a condom guy no way i'm great at pulling out this is hilarious though okay a lot of rappers seem like they really struggle with pulling out no i think a lot of rappers just be like i got some money nice so i could take care of a kid and then a niggas don't be wanting to pull out no way Seems like he probably has the worst pull-out game in the industry. I think, I think, bro, like. That's just his hobby? Yeah, like for him, I think, I think,

my assumption is he, like, my fucking try to just make sure he got long-ass legacy. Mm. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's anybody who have a lot of kids, though. Like, they want their legacy to be long. Like, I got a homeboy that got, like, 13 kids. I got an uncle that got,

um, I think Uncle Q got. 13 kids we have 13 11 yeah I got like look cuz of Hawaii I never met because of my uncle um yeah I think anybody who have like eight eight and that 10 like up in there like over seven probably like over five you think a strong legacy really oh yeah I mean think about Mayweather's kids they're just out here I mean kids boy got 20 something I think Floyd got 20 kids? I don't know. But either way, that's like, think about how many of your little minions you have just out there in the world. Like one of them's going to be good at something. But unfortunately, one or more of them are going to have bad characteristics.

You can be living under a bridge and then that's like, oh, shit. I'm trying to think. I mean, he got five. Where the fuck you get 20 from? I don't know. I just feel like I've like ran into a million of his kids. Fuck. They put 15 extra kids on that man. that's fucked up that's gonna be such a funny moment for anyone who knows

who got George Foreman got that's who I was thinking of right George Farman got like 13 kids and he named all of them George yeah yeah he named all of them George even the girls right

that's the stupid as shit ever it's just confusing even the girls it's just not cool like that's a dirty trick really I ain't allowed like once once they got older

How many? 12. Solid. Young boy got 12 and he. Oh, young boy like 24. Something like that. I mean, but he also got 12 kids, millions of money. Exactly.

Like if me or you were to have 12 kids, it would probably irresponsible. No, it's not probably. Not probably. Yeah. It would fuck our financial situations up. He's got infinite money. He could just do that.

I already take care. three kids and I don't have kids so why so you're in that position as a rapper where everybody just kind of comes to you and you end up giving out loans all the time

and you're paying people's bills for certain things not like that but like I feel like the three kids that I did I be that I do what I do for

I got like a little obligation to them out of my own heart so yeah it ain't but I for sure and say time I've been that rapper like I don't I'd have been I don't want broke to help the hummys really now I'd have been broke a few times from helping the homies are just over overextending my hand you feel me doing more than what I go for it right and at a certain

point do you have to just learn to be a dick or do you just have to accept I'm trying to learn that now like I keep I keep saying it out loud like I'm done just over tipping and and and extra pay them up is for small shit and and you feel me or I got it I got it paying for everything front of the bill like I'm trying to learn that trait because I look at it as if if I was if I was stingy like I was a ho-ass nigger and in our sense of not looking out I'd be rich as here right now when you first get money from rapping or becoming a YouTuber or whatever the it is it's like I'm rich and then

Time starts going by and you're like, oh, no, like, I have a business and there's going to be expenses and it's like this is something. If I want to maintain this in the long run, I can't just be acting like I just won the lottery. And that's all that's all you do when you used to not having a lot of money and then a lot of money is at your leisure. A lot of money is getting made all the time. A lot of money is what's always going to be right there. And when that happened, you get to live behind your means. You get the overspend it. You get the bad shit you don't need to buy

All the type of shit. And you get to keep on the end. Once you do that, you got to keep that jacket on for a while. Right. You got to keep it. Like once you play it like that a couple times, that's how you got to play it for a while. You know what I'm saying?

And that shit hurt you and put it in your pocket. So in a sense, you do got to learn how to be selfish a little bit. And that's what I'm not saying I all the way learn how to do that yet, but I'm trying to learn that. and in a sense to where it helped me because if I can't, at the end of that,

if I can't help me, I'm not going to be able to help nobody in no way. It's hard to know where you're at while you're in the moment, but where do you feel like you're at in your rap career? Like what kind of rap career do you have and at what point in it are you? Because when you think about like the last couple of years and shit, like I feel like the last time we did content was like right before you had the Nikki Minaz verse,

which I assume was like a very, big spike in interest. It's a big thing. So what's your sense of where you're at right now and trying to really do this thing, you know? Where I'm at right now is a... At my own words, like, I look at it like a hoop game, you feel me?

And I had my first quarter, which was like my whole Detroit run and the whatever effects you want to say came from being with T, you know what I'm saying? And then right after that was like the end of the first, and we went into the second quarter with the lead, you know what I'm saying? And that was pressing, you know what I'm saying, the king of buying shit and shit with Nikki and all run. And then it was halftime, and it was like what I'm supposed to do with the momentum

from the whole lot of chopper shit with Nikki and all that and I lose my page. Mm-hmm right right right you feel me lose the page with a million followers. Do you know why exactly? Yeah but I don't want to like act like I'm still keeping up some static between me and them up. It's because of a person you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm it was because of a person at granted I had got numerous warnings from talking how I used to talk.

Right. But many a gang member who engage in violent threats on Instagram live and shit have learned the lesson on Yeah, yeah, so that happened like that and then Like shortly after probably like um like a few months after that Probably like a year at the right close to the year after that And my pop's dad right so like when he died I really All the music I released like songs last song called Rojo and it did like kind of decent like more than 10 million views Some shit like that but it was a song I had been recorded though like all the music I was releasing with in like

The little two years span between him dying and now was like old music like I just The shit I was going to record because I still was trying to go record and it just wasn't coming all right like Really you were in the head like that Yeah, like, I didn't like, and I usually always like some of my shit, you feel me. Probably a good 80 songs I didn't like. Like, I recorded, like, the day he died, I went to, I went and record it. You know what I was just trying to, like, I don't know. You feel me?

I still don't really know what to feel when they come down, but it's like I tried, I went to go record that night. I had my little brothers with me, you know what I'm saying? I think I did like nine songs, some shit that night. And I, like, they was, like, I was rapping, but it was like, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, nothing was just, it just wasn't, it just wasn't clicking for real. You know what I'm saying? It just wasn't clicking for a long, long time.

Well, you think part of it's your ear, like, your ability to appreciate it was damaged, or do you think it was just that, like, your content wasn't inspired? fired because you just weren't in the right headspace? Probably both, but less on the air part because, like, I went back and listened to it. It was ass. You know what I'm saying? Like, still was ass. I'm like, that wasn't a game.

You get me? And I'm saying it's ass compared to what you know I'm capable of putting out. You know what I know I'm capable of putting out. feel me like just because it's unreleased music I could release it and somebody would probably like it because it's just a new side of it music but it wasn't good like okay for instance hold out choppers when I record this song till when I released it two different time frames I held this song and kept it away from the label for two years on purpose really like they only could hear it on

Zoom meetings. I have Zoom meeting just so they hear the song. I'm like, I play if y'all. Not sending it to no fucking body. Just because I didn't want to, I'm like, right now it's not the right time for me to release this song. You know me? I don't got enough going. And when I held it

for two years and I released it, when I released it, you feel me, it did with this? So it's like I got songs like that that I know it's going to do to do, but it's like I have to, like right now, I wouldn't release my own release song I got with King Vine. You know what I'm saying? Like me and Vine got another record.

I'm not going to release that right now just because. Or I'm not going to go find the Chris Brown record and fully released and like people who've been asked for right now just because. Like, no, I want my momentum to be what it needs to be. I got shit with Mark Redby. You feel me? Like, don't know. Other rapper got a song with that man.

Not about to drop it right now. Just because. Like, I want everything to make sense. How would you rate yourself as a label siney? Because I kind of remember seeing Wallow have like a, or no, Wayno. Goddina, why don't I always do that? Wayno. I remember seeing the look in his eyes where it was like, oh, okay, it's a little stressful being side of baby Zan R.

Asshole. Yeah, I ain't make it easy on nobody, but I always felt like. maybe one or two people at the label even understood what I was. So I never really had the room to give a fuck about what they gave a fuck about. But was that version of you a couple of years ago different than the version of you today in terms of like how serious you're taking shit or how professional you feel like you're behaving in terms of your career? Oh, yeah, for sure. I was super hot too.

I was real high And I don't be like using the The drink shit as a crutch Like that's why I want to blame that now Because I was a fully functioning addict Like you know that I get up early and still be high I'd be in studio for 19 hours Still recording 27 songs

Good legible songs Why I was high It's like when the when the SpongeBob video went viral And everybody thought I was incapacitately high Like you don't know me I over-exaggering everything I do. You get me? If I was incapacitated high,

I wouldn't have been fucking letting nobody record me. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, did that shit play a part in my mood? Probably, yeah. Like, seven times out of ten, yeah. But a lot of times, I'm an attitude to me. Anyway.

Right. I had a bad attitude problem for my mama. That's some shit that I try to work on. more so than me want to work on professionalism. Like if my energy right and I know I'm not aiming nothing in a bad place, then, like, professional is just what's going to have to come at the end of the day anyway. Well, that's the weird thing about me and you probably both have this in common, whether it's because of the drink or just because of how we are.

But we're both very opinionated and kind of moody. Yeah. Like, so the only. So the only reason why you are where you are or why I am where I am is just because of the fact that we make choices that work well in terms of me who I was interviewing in the beginning was that's the choices I made that kind of define the brand for you every time you put a sentence together in a song. It's all about like how cool it sounds, how interesting you can make it, et cetera. And it's like when you're when you're kind of moody but you're also extremely opinionated, a lot of times you don't really know. Once you kind of become self-aware, you don't really know 100% if it's just your mood. And that's why it helps a lot to take some time with your decision sometimes to think, like, okay, if I hate this song at 8 o'clock in the morning, like maybe I'll feel a little different 12 hours from now.

So maybe I should just kind of let it sit. No, that's true. I get mad at shit. And then I get mad at a person. and then within within I swear I'm lame as hell within like because I'm trying to get your wrist there because this shit just happened another day within five minutes and this is how God work

you know what I'm saying I call myself being mad at somebody right and I'm a man made up mad and I go to instance Instagram or something and said person I'm mad at is like the first or second comment on some shit I just posted supporting the fuck out of me if you hear me saying some shit that's warming my heart And I'm like bro yo bitch ass bro like boo like boo out school like You just you just gotta get mad at the nigger bro. No you love that nigga like and and Of old I got mad and stay mad and when you gave you if he came to support what like whatever it was but it's like I'm too fucking old for that

shit and I know a lot of motherfuckers around me damn near 100% of them don't mean me no harm you know what I'm saying and they put up with my attitude and they know I got mean streaks but they know I love too you know I'm saying they know I love and they know everything that I ever tried to do is for us like I say it to them niggas daily this shit not for me it's for us That's why I've never had No plethora of millions or no bunch of money to sit on Because every time I got anything that looked like a lump sum I went and did for somebody else

Every time Nick can't tell me I ain't like every time I got lump sum of money I did something for somebody else You regret that at all now or is that just no Because them niggas gonna go around other situations or live life However they're gonna live it and they gonna understand that do one-on-one they're gonna understand like the way that shit went when you was with me or whenever you was around me yeah that shit was special it's because this shit don't go like that everywhere else the next nigga not gonna give a fuck to make sure you got a hotel room or a flight anywhere or

they don't damn near eat in front of you gonna keep getting fresh in front of you now i didn't gave away jury on top of jury on top of jury and i'm supposed to that i'm talking about not what i would have but hypothetically what I actually had, that fucking, I was with like six braces on. I got all the bitch's way, so niggas can do it. And I'm just saying, I didn't give a fuck.

My thing was I had six braces on, and this nigger wrist don't got nothing. And I got this nigga in Indiana with me, Texas, wherever the folks we're going, woo-woo. And, all right, here, bro, you put these bitches on. You feel me, woo-woo, you got to look sweet too. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, like, all right.

I keep on wearing this shit, nigga, and he halfway dressed like that, bro, huh? Woo, boy, you got to go shop where I shop here real quick. A couple of dollars, I'm saying nothing. Like, you're supposed to keep a player because it was niggins who, it didn't happen often, but niggins who did that shit to me before, and I'm like, that was sweet as hell. You feel me? Like, I was broke. Like, my own boy, Shark, nigga.

I don't know where Shark was getting a bunch of money from, but my nigga Shark was getting a bunch of money. You hear me for a minute, nigga, and he knew I wanted to do the rapping shit. You feel me? you know what I'm saying you know I'm gonna tell you is my other cousin and this mix too you feel me is it's like have the reason why shark was with me how he was because he he synced it saying they can tell you all you gotta do is bro

you f*** with this music shit I'm gonna support you hit me up you need somebody I don't want you selling no drugs I'm nothing that shit I got guys I give you some money you can go to studio bet you pull up go get that money and then they give you $10 this is true story the true story they gave me $10 I was like thank you I wouldn't got a half-bine-hensity and when you talked to the the engineer DJ Brown I love you to this day you turn these day oh damn was that me yes sir which one was that I think it was the top one that's why does a person

need three phones because you got to have a number to everybody got and then the number that don't nobody got and the number that a few people got you don't have like a hoe phone a whole phone if you want to call at this on this the this the I give anybody this number phone oh so you who's going that category yeah hos hobos whinos whatever but um I went I have panes he was the ten dollars went to the studio engineer and producer DJ Brown love you and he believed in the potential enough to let me record for free and I recorded some of my like my two two of my first biggest songs out there like and Stacy and Stix and Stones you know

I'm saying now Shark knew that I was supposed to be getting money from another cousin you know what I'm saying and I ain't blaming cuz whatever this is just a true story nigger you told me you had me you gave me ten dollars shark seen this you feel me and he knew I could rap for real and every time shark went to Jimmy Jazz you feel me like well we weren't going and even Marcus and then but every time we we went to Jimmy Jazz I want to Jimmy Jazz that's cool that you have Jimmy Jazz we just have that in New York he went got a little bullshit two-piece outfit I got bullshit two-piece outfit yeah he got some new james he'll wear him a couple tacks and let me wear him you

You feel me? Remember the niggas was wearing Captain Durrance and all that type of shit back then. Katie's all right. Bro, he was looking out for me. So, like, that shit, I remember to where I know, like, nigga, if I got money, you feel me, which I do got money, I'm just not about to be shopping that nigger face where like I got all this ex-ed shit. Now I'm going to get some of this shit away. So I don't regret none of it because a nigga going to go to another situation where he's not even looking for it. But it's just going to hit him in the back of the head.

Like, damn, if I still was, fuck what bro them of? when I was a brother, this shit was different, a nigga would have just gave me that. That nigga just tried to charge me for that shit or that nigga ain't even think to ask me if I wanted some of that shit. Yeah, a nigga not gonna think. Like, he's not, so

hell know I don't regret it, bro. Because I hope, like, my actions are making them other motherfuck to take them same actions once they get a bunch of money and they're breadwinner for whatever circle that they lead in on, you feel me, and to do the same way. Because you get the more and more of them

type of niggas in the world should it be nicer be calmer energy but I feel like if you're a rapper the reason why you have all this jewelry and shit that is like uncomfortable heavy you know dangerous it's comfortable okay the reason why you have it is it's all just marketing right it's all about presenting you as this king who's just dripping and diamonds and and has a new expensive jacket every day and can you know just rappers just do things that like normal people don't do normal people have like a couple jackets and they're just kind of like wear those all year i got a lot of clothes i got a lot of clothes but i i re-wear a lot of

clothes too though right like i break that rule like i don't know who's it you're supposed to wear that shit one and that shit cost too much money i'm wearing that shit like fair time right but it's more like if you're going to do something important if you go to an award show if you're in if you do a music video yeah you really can't afford to be rock on the same jacket in multiple music videos not that not that but damn let me see you know I wear that jacket to the videos yeah I'm trying to think about the other especially if it's like a noticeable jacket that's what I'm trying to think but you could rock it with like you could just rock it with like a different shirt and it might you can't do it

you can't do it like a bunch of times I'm just I'm saying in real life I wear some like like you know I'm not gonna take pictures every fucking day. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, nigga gone for show where's some shit to eat and war. Is there a time limit on every chain? Hell no.

You could be rocking a chain for 10 years. All right, hold on. Well, you'd have to be, like, getting new ones along the way, too, I feel like as a rapper. Yeah, no, like, the only way you should have, like, only way if you ain't switched the chain up in 10 years is it that bitch got to be, like, competing for best chain every year.

For the whole 10 years like that bitch got to be that sweet because even Even like Floyd that big ass Cuban like he wear that bitch for a minute we don't be seeing where that bitch no more You know what I'm saying like you gotta like you know you can't yeah yeah you gotta keep getting you right you're gonna keep it's a time on the bitches I say about like seven years Mm hmm well like jewelry trends change a lot too Yeah because if the plain Cubans that you have or whatever you could rock forever because that's not going to change but in terms of like something like a big fucking monkey head I mean you're gonna get sick of looking at it at some point I don't know man you might want to switch it up I feel like it's it's not the weirder it is the more there's a shelf

life right no I probably I probably I probably I probably it'll turn it to I never do nothing with it but it'll turn to a piece that I wear when I feel like we're in it but yeah I ain't getting rid of it though you can't get rid of your pieces You think I'm missing out? Am I missing out on life by not having jewelry? You should get a 22 piece. I do have one from back in the day. I never wear it.

Yeah, you need to just wear that bitch on like Tuesdays. That's just how I'm, that's the one thing that's keeping me from becoming a rapper and not rapping. Yeah, not having a chain. No. You need no chain and rap. But you know it's crazy. Very few rappers don't have chains. No, but it was crazy.

and meigs that think you need a chain of rap oh yeah go to Atlanta everybody's just it's aspiring rapper world and everybody's got a chain with their fucking name which i actually really appreciate because i have a hard time remember people's names when they walk up to me and it says their fucking name on the chain i'm like wow thank god it's like a fucking name tag no it's the like in today's age i don't think uh like it probably it probably was like in the 80s 90s early 2000 like if you was on the scene but like seeing how many motherfuckers that don't rap or that's not famous that just got jury like it's damn near amazing like motherfucker you and you ain't never seen this nigga ever in life i have

nigger some good ass jury on some sweet shit he'd be like who the fuck's this nigh and i'll be looking at their instagram and like trying to figure out if it's if it's like they're actually successful or if the chain just has me kind of like fooled. No, because I ain't gonna laugh. Some niggas, some niggas be too icy for what they try to say their music careers. Oh yeah. Like, it don't add up.

Like, you icy as hell. I don't know none of your songs. Or like guys you see at events or clubs or whatever and they have like the nicest clothes and the ill-ass jewelry and they got some bad bitches. You never seen them before. But then like you look at the music and you're like, oh my God. How could you be so advanced in all these other things that's so bad at the music part? You know what's crazy?

That type of person, if you just take away the music, he's sweet as hell. If you just, if he, if he don't try to rap, you be in me, sweet as hell. And extra off the radar, too. So you really live in, you know what I'm saying? Like you got the clothes, you got big ass ice better than some niggas that's already rapping with better music than you. and you feel like the one thing that's missing out your life is rap because now that you're you're already high profile so it's like by default you can't even imagine what it would be like for nobody to know you but it's an awkward thing because we fantasize kind of I assume

or me a little bit about what it would be like to be having money and low profile because then you can just do whatever you go walk around downtown like that's why we wear it that's why That's why we fell in love with the helmets. You know what I'm saying? With the ski mask joints. You feel me? Like, I know, I love my shit for sure. But, you know, I got hand tattoos and all that type of shit and the picturesics.

And I had to literally have both my hands, you feel, with the ski mask on. But that little feeling right there is fire. They said Eminem was riding around on his bike. the hood when the mask on during COVID. Who's in it? I think Eminem said it in an interview. For like for the first time and like forever, Boogie said that about Eminem.

Isn't that insane? I wonder like how Hood we're talking. Or is he just like riding his bike around like a normal area? He did. He did. What? Put on the mask so that he was completely anonymous and then just like went out riding bikes and shit in a way that

because Eminem's like the most high security. You never see him pop out anywhere. But he was just riding his bike around. like on some regular shit during COVID for the first time in like 20 years I believe it isn't that crazy must have felt so free that sweet as here that's sweet is here Detroit lore right there he don't got no tattoos so he'd feel me so yeah put some gloves on he looks like anybody that's what I'm saying that's how I'm pitching the new ski man's on white tea and just the white arms you feel like some some gray or blue dicky shorts

You feel I mean It gets tough during the summer And it's like gloomy The summer like you don't want to be wearing a shiasty Shit you tell them young is that You're like crazy because you got the big beard No they the beard for sure You're pushing through that motherfucker

But yeah Yeah them young niggas wearing a shixte through January through January Yeah In church and their school pictures yeah you ain't see the nigga take you the graduation picture with the ski mask huh uh i did see that yeah that's fair thing i can't believe they let them do that ain't no let he had a ski man's on they ain't one try to well he probably had a 30 in school

yo but all right so what's the state of the union the the state of the health of the detroit scene because it's like since we last talked we kind of like Just seen this this wild ass wave with all the Flint shit taken over and Rio having his craziest arc and obviously like baby face race still in the middle of his arc and V's is having a crazy ass arc. Yeah, bees tripping. And Meanwhile, like, you know, you got popping like before even a lot of that shit started popping off. But now it's kind of more like each it's like each man for himself in a sense. Whereas there was like a united like Detroit slash Flint wave. for a while but now it's like everybody's like figuring out how what they're gonna stake their claim to in terms of the scene Yeah, it it looked like that And it's probably going like that naturally But I know behind closed doors

Everybody's trying to figure out a way to coexist for the betterment of the city So like this is a lot of shit to go on and there's that people don't see or don't hear about But as far as it's looking like area of their self, everybody is like damn near an individual act anyway. And the different shit that they know for is what they already known for. So standing on top of that ain't going to be hard no fucking way. And then you got niggas like Rio on this way home. And he is like probably the most fun rapper.

Like when they come to. not getting bored of what he gonna say next like he got a long long time we keep rapping you got the baby trines then you got skiller true you feel me like skill of the ultimate ladies man you feel me right now like he can't go wrong when he rap about the bitches he go crazy every time and they love it and that's that's gonna be a win like forever then t just a good rapping ass nigger like true he just rap good as he's good at uh doing the thing and keeping himself in the conversation with all the streamers and the fucking you know all that shit like he's he's he's a good celebrity which a lot of rappers who are like good at making music

are not good at being out there like that and staying in the conversation no for sure he do the right shit like i was watching him um he was eating uh some of the barbecue from the rib tip nigga the oxtail nigga with the you know the big cocky chef that all he's be here with barbecue on this shit man right he came personally cooked some shit for tea so you write about that he's staying the mix for sure and you know his video game is like the best RP server that's out there when Gt has six drops that's probably gonna get so much crazier for him it's gonna be the biggest spike ever it's gonna be fire and I'm be right there with his really so you guys are like tight like that now I mean we always have been it's just

we wasn't talking for like two years three years something like four four years four years right and skiller was like the thing that brought you back together in the sense like it wouldn't happen if it wasn't for him right because there was definitely moments where we were seeing skiller with him and just thinking like whoa like we're not used to seeing these streams cross in such complicated ways yeah you know um skiller skiller skiller skiller i'm me right you know what we're different we wired different when it comes to certain shit and that's okay like that's that's the reason why we brothers not supposed to be all the way like you know what I'm saying but how he looked at shit to not be

super deep until it's deep in his eyes shit might be super deep to me on the surface and that's just because I'd be wanting to have a problem with shit you know what I'm saying that makes me think of like 50 fell out with Buck back in the day because Buck was just like he was hot and so he's going and doing shit in the rapper world and he's rubbing shoulders with fat Joe and Jha Ruh or I don't know if it's Jai Ruhl but fat Joe and Jada kiss and shit for sure and just like making friends in the rap game meanwhile from 50s perspective it's like no if you're G unit you're basically like a gang member you can't with anyone that we don't with and that's it's hard or we it's weird to put

someone in that box especially if it's someone like you who's trying to really push his career yeah but he never like He never quote unquote, like I, like, there's no, I had no paperwork on him. Right. So, like, my whole thing with him was just to try to give him the opportunity that I felt like he probably couldn't have got on his own. And the potential that me and wine scene when we first got around him, that shit just was evident. Like, I felt like he could do a whole, like, still can't do shit behind the microphone that I can't do. Nigger just extra fucking good at that shit, you know what I'm saying?

And all the personality and all the Splunky got about himself. some shit that he worked and cultivated to having my foundation to make it into band camp and we eat the most. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just wanted to use whatever I had to help the thing out. So, like, him being obligated to include me or always bring me up or make sure that I'm involved in whatever skill we got going on is, that's a false narrative. Like, it's one that's not needed either, you know what I'm saying? It's meant for him to go have his own lane, spread his wings and be sweet. You feel me?

Like, niggas need to be marquee niggas in their own way. Interesting. So you feel like a lot of the cliques and the territorialism and rap is just like not something you're interested in propagating? I got a lot of time to do a whole lot of other shit than me trying to be mad at what another nigga eating, who he eating it with, and why he hanged with him. And I ain't hanged with it.

Man, listen. We got hummies just. mutual we got homies that's not mutual he got shit that's going for him and that's for him I got shit that's going for me that's for me but when they come to us we us you know what I'm saying like we don't got no riffs no problems at all so that's the only thing that really matter as but as far as niggas feeling like you got to have your hands and shit because the world think you have some hair your hands and shit any way like that ain't how to go like a mom told me like I know I know I

why you're chilling bitch you you got you on with skiller you just sitting back making money i'm like bro i don't make a dollar off that man never have you feel me like that's not that's not what i was in there for him is there part of you that worries about you know getting older in rap no because snoop dog still got a podcast and he be hooping and he's in movies and he be playing a video game and you still smoke weed and you're richest and e40 got cooking foods and recipes and liquors and he got a sweet-ass house with a low-cart tree in the backyard and he richest and fat joe rich is and he oldest and jada cause old is and he rich as f*** and he rich as f*** and he rich as and he rich is fuck so shit hell no you know me them next can drop whenever they want to

and it be cool and you know what I'm saying they court fan base eat it up they get invited to all the awards they looked at as legends because they are like hey I don't know I don't look at that shit I'm old I'm 30 you feel I'm not no kid with this shit you know what I'm saying so like you said earlier like what where I look like where do I feel like I am as far as my career I mean the third quarter You feel, I'm in the third quarter and I'm down 15. But this shit, the gamer runs. You know what I'm saying? I know a lot of motherfuck is down there.

Anybody you put me in the box with, can't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? I really can rap, good as hell. Like, got substance, all that. I can sing. I write all my own music. Like, I got a whole lot of shit that I ain't even put out yet that we ain't even got a chance to go off into.

Because, like, okay, the position that you're in in your career is like, 99% of rappers will never blow up at all or have like even a moment of people being excited about them, right? But then once you've actually done that, once you've had a year or two years where you're like really like climbing and like people are really getting excited about you, then begins the hard part. You're not a new artist anymore. People are used to seeing you. And there's like a certain percentage of the audience that only wants to listen to an artist when they first come out. and then it's just like you

well yeah to a certain extent unless you're able to get yourself into the position of a Rick Ross or a Jada kiss or a currency even when we talk about dudes or more like on an independent level or a Wiz Khalifa or whatever who's just able to sort of like have their thing that they do

and they have their hardcore fan base but like to keep yourself in the conversation and that long run once you're done being a new artist really separates the men from the boys Mm-hmm. No, for sure. But you, like, the sat-a-baby product

has always been kind of focused on you being a very, like, good, inventive lyricist. I know you just took yourself out of the lyricist's box earlier, but I still think that that's, like, a big part of what people find appealing about you, you know? I like the whole, so. I like the things I would be one of the things. You know?

But it's certain things that I feel like I have yet to have a direct swing at what I really want to do as far as proving it ain't another such thing because of resaturation. So yeah, I'm a flood one time and I'm going to finally drop an album with songs that I feel like is album-worthy songs. So you feel like every album you put out came out short of what you really wanted to do? Oh, it's everything to a mixtape? Okay.

Yeah. But you've never You don't feel like you have a defining A career project? Bernie or Bonnie, if anything, but as a mixtape. Right.

But do you have to do something that's like way outside of the realm of what you normally do in order for it to feel like an album? Like, do you have to make weird pop hits? It's songs for the girls. Do you need a reggaeton song?

Like how different, or can you just do your thing and just have it be the best personification of your style? That part. Really? That part. But it doesn't have to cover the full spectrum. Yeah, you ain't got to put a glitter suit on and no shit. No, you don't got to do that.

But you do have to show, you do got to get him a reason for you to even have been dragging it out. you know what I'm saying like you got to get them a reason to say like okay this from the first beat from the first piece of production they hear you know what I'm saying they need to understand that this is the album and not a mixtape and yeah I know I got songs that sound like this is an album and I'm out of them for a minute for a reason so I just way and pace me to do this shit the way that I want to do it and I'm getting a chance to do it one time and it is what it is Are you more on, like, moving around, hustling, trying to get to every last dollar right now,

or are you more like chilling at home, working on music? Or what's your balance between those two modes? Like, a necessity or, like, or, like, or you say, like, what? Just how do you prefer to exist? Because I feel like that's a big, those are kind of like the two main types of dude you could be as a rapper. Some rappers just stay at home, focus on the music, stay. in the studio and then there's other dudes who are always on tour they're always doing weed promo ads on Instagram they always selling verses they doing like every little thing that they

could do to get every last five bands or whatever the fuck it is you know I make a lot money on my Twitch another thing that like works when your home doesn't work at all when you're on the road for the most part I've I've been booked for at least two weekends every month of the year for like the last six seven years so I always got shows fully staying home is not an option no it never is like I have to like not take bookings and be like I'm chilling I don't want to go out for a minute I want to stay in house for a couple weeks play the game but I always got shows like all the fucking time um um uh When I got out of asylum, like, my royalties and all that type of shit, like, came back to me and whoops.

So my, whatever you call them, other checks, way fucking bigger or nothing. Really? You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, I had the chance to be fully independent, you know what I'm saying, in due time. Do you prefer this? how soon or how not soon because I have respect for the niggas that I fuck her right now, you feel I mean, I fuck with him.

Do you prefer to be independent? Or do you feel like there's something kind of missing now that you don't have a label? You know, I like labels, but I know I know, I do want to see, you know what I'm saying? When we get there, I'll make sure I'll talk about it with you first. Really? But why

did you never drop an album while you were on asylum? Isn't that the whole fucking reason they signed you? I made them 4.5 million dollars and I never had over a million dollars in my own possession. So yeah. And you could see that on the back end of your... They let me see it once I got on my contracts. Really? Well, that was nice of them.

Once I got my contracts, let me see it. But now, like, you're acutely aware of exactly how valuable your catalog of music is every month. Does that motivate you? Like, oh, fuck, I got to really make more music. make music that spreads more? Does that kind of feel like more pressure? I got almost 3,000 early songs. So I could drop a mixtape every month for the next 10, 15 years,

20 years or something like that. I don't know. Five, six, seven songs apiece, yeah. A lot of music and a lot of it is good. When I seen the checks, I was just like, oh, that's why this nigga had more jerry to me. That's what the fuck I thought. I ain't, wasn't pressure to make no more music.

I love rapping, so I'm gonna go record and make new fucking content and new whatever all the time. A nigga don't gotta kick me in the ass and say go rap. Like when I leave, I just left the studio, came here, kick with you. When I leave here, I'm going back to the studio. I love recording. So the pressure to record is if I've been in the house for a week and a half playing the game for almost two weeks a night. weeks and I ain't winning record a shit all right bro go rap bro yeah but the checks made me

just look at like because always I'm like this nigga like he living way better than me but this nigga don't be having more shows to me I don't understand it you don't you not never performing bro like I was just looking like this and and then the same streaming chance oh because you guys somebody's streaming your shit crazy are you an artist who could work with a label Or do you think that you're a little too, I don't know, like not commercial enough or like the type of artist who's not willing to conform enough? I don't want to fucking it off myself. Your actual review of yourself as a signee, you're going to give it to yourself, okay. No comment.

I mean, because that's the question. Whenever I see all these labels sign and fucking drove rappers and I'm just like, like, what vision do you have for this dude who's just rapping about? some kid that he killed or whatever like what the f is the label machine gonna do for that it's not like I don't know what you're thinking you're gonna add to this and more often than not that's exactly what happens is that you know a few years later I end up talking to the kid now like yeah they they let me out my contract I've seen and I don't want to sound like that neighbor I don't give a f*** because I can fight good man I see a bunch of young niggas get deals and niggas is not sweet He's not rapping about nothing. Beats basic. Things don't got no pizzazz. You feel me? Like, nothing really stand out about a nigga besides this chain.

I don't know, bro. Like, I think a lot of labels behind these A&Rs, but I ain't going to blame them on that stuff. But it's like they feel like they understand what's going on. They don't really know what's going on. Like, oh, this guy in touch. So he gonna know how to get the right type of young artists we need. That nigga went to a private school.

Like, he know motherfuckers from the rural area because of his family. But he went to a private school gang. Like, nigga, McKell Doherty is not your hipster. You feel me, this, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Got nose ringing shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, bro.

I wouldn't understand what the fuck you're trying to say. So I know you wouldn't understand what you're trying to say when it comes towards me, you know? But I know for a fact it's people out there that got a brain that understand. And, like, I had an opportunity to sign with major labels, a couple different ways. We did what we felt like we wanted to do in order for the opportunity. to be where they need to be from multiple levels you know what I'm saying and I just want to walk into any situation being the best me so they can do the shit the right way you know but I'm not rushing that I'm not rushing that at all do you have like a sense that the

rap games up or do you feel like things are right no no what's wrong with it things making money we get free shit yeah a lot of weed like what the fuck is wrong with the rap game how'd you meet Vaughn early on that's my boy too like I tell my if I had a real rap friend you know what I'm saying like a real rapper friend like it was fine why that was really my own me you see me I met him from T and Dirk being as cool as they were early off, you know what I'm saying, like in T career. Right.

Like, me, Buka, recipes, macadule, vine. Like, it used to be, we used to be in Atlanta. I think the first time I met Dirk, we was at Patchwork. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I was trying to buy some lane from him. He wouldn't let me pay for it. He just gave it to him for free. You know what I'm saying?

Cool, nigga. Super cool. You always been cool with me. But, like, T and Dirk was kicking it. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I would be kicking it with, like, Vine type shit. Vine and Buka, per se. And, like, that's how the depressing record even came about

because we all was cool. And I was down there recording at Astros. And I told Buka and them to pull up on me, Buka and Vah. He pulled up on me and then I recorded two songs and for idea one song by myself and then Vaughn was telling me he was about to start rapping so I'm like all right I'm about to give you a song nigga I'm like I'm gonna start the bitch off bro and nigga you just motherfucking finish it and the song was pressing that's crazy that you were doing him a favor and then it ended

up being a huge thing for you as well which is like trippy when it works out like that yeah like when I gave him the verse he didn't record He didn't record his verse for two years. Oh. Yeah, like I gave him the verse and then he didn't record shit like two years later. For sure, for sure, because like I was rapping, rapping and he wasn't, like he had just started, like he wasn't even fully, like he was trying to fuck around with it. And then, you know, he went to jail again and then he was on house arrest. You remember he was on house arrest?

That's when he recorded the present verse. So you remember that's like, that's a long-ass time in between. He did the prison verse when he was on house arrest. Hey, FaceTime me, he's like, nigga, I ain't gonna lie that bitch hard. I'm like, let me hear it. Played that motherfucker. I remember like yesterday, yeah.

When you gave him the verse, was it because you thought he had talent as a rapper? Or was it just because you were fucking with him as a person? Because he was my man's. I ain't know what the fuck he sounded like as a rapper. You didn't even heard of shit, really? No, I never knew, I had never heard a rap lyric. Right.

Like, that was just my homeboy. Like, Buka, because, you know, Buka was, I don't think Buga had even started, I don't know how long Buka been rapping, but I know I didn't know of Buga to start, like really doing some music to like, probably like a year after I met him though, you know what I'm saying? He has, I don't know if he had released,

he had this one released song called Pesos. Yeah, like Bucca can make good ass music too, you feel me? But yeah, I did it just because I fucked with I. Like, that was my ummy. And how we shot the video, because we was trying to put it together for a long-ass time. But how we shot the video, nigga, we both end up getting booked in Louisville

on the same show. I'm just like, nigga, let's shoot the fucking video. I like bet. And we linked up and we shot the fucking videos. It's all type of different motherfuckers in that video, too. 2K baby. in there 30 D grammy was in there free his ass free grammy free grammy that's my boy I thought I remember interviewing him and just feeling like he had so much star power he is

like his energy like near that smile you feel you get to seeing them go's like yeah yeah it does look that's my boy little evil gremlin type vibe but real but he like when he on set the songs certain songs he got where that shit just is fully on display how much how far he could go you see it I guess another nigger that I'd be I be trying to keep up with name OG C K you know what it is no man this he made good fucking music and I think he locked up again I think he locked up again but like that niggas a good songmaker right you know what I'm saying and like niggas like them I don't know I'll be wondering if niggas be telling them how much potential they got like do a nigga like that's why I be trying to anybody

that I see doing some music if I think if I buy my hair to it it's kind of sweet it don't take nothing but 30 seconds to tell a yeah like bro your shit fire I bro that's just sweet keep going woo-woo you know you never know man that shit might prolong a career uh stop a motherfucker from giving up or something you feel me real quick do you have that dream of being like a Gucci or a Rick Ross who has all these artists signed is that something you hell no you see for yourself no I I got a dream of my music lead off into so much other stuff like I want my music to be the catapult to me acting to me doing voiceovers for cartoons to me having a sports analyst show to me I was about to say that one a cooking show like being more prevalent in the video game scene like yeah I want that's that's my dream like I don't really want to be in in control or looked at it as like the big CEO behind a bunch of different artists you know I'm saying because like at the end of the day a motherfucker want to want to want to be who they are anyway you know what I'm saying so I don't want to be who they are anyway you know what I'm saying so I don't want to be

still having a fat-ass umbrella over niggas thinking that they got to keep on representing what ever I embody because it's like obviously you want your music career to blow and that that is a priority but then at the same time it's like you're building a personal brand as a person that could be translated into so many different things that's what I want and and that doesn't necessarily depend on you having a number one song but it definitely does depend on you just like maintaining authenticity through your career. And if you start chasing hits or success or whatever, that could very easily fuck up your authenticity to a certain extent.

Facts. Facts. Like, I never go in that bitch swinging for no home run. Like, when we catch one, we catch one. But I have no problem with making, like, good-ass fucking songs that you can't tell me it's not a great song. They haven't got to be a whole lot of choppers or another whatever to fuck, but I know I can make good music. I got fucking three gold records and one platinum one.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm cool. And I know I got a lot of good music on ice. And I'm excited to drop it. Like a lot, a lot, a lot of features. A lot, a lot of shit where I don't sound like me, but it's still me. But when you talk about stuff like the sports analyst thing or like being more in the video game space, is that like you don't feel comfortable fully going in on those sorts of,

of ambitions because you want to remain focused on your rapping no fuck no i i fully start a sports show tomorrow and i'm still gonna rap like i just like i if somewhere were to take notice that i have uh vast knowledge on sports come fuck with me like jalen rose like jela rose fuck with me that's um you know what i'm saying i know he said he's gonna do some shit ooh do you feel where he was trying to build like a production company in Detroit or something like that. I don't know if I was supposed to say that, but it might not have been no secret or no shit. I mean, Cameron and Mesa are really leading the charge. That shit is so popular and came out of the middle of nowhere because you never saw either of them doing anything

indicating that they wanted to be like doing this sort of shit before and all of a sudden they're doing it is insanely popular. That's crazy to see. And they fucking hated each other for like 20 years. Yeah, over a high school game. Yeah, over like fucking nothing from their early days of their rap careers. That's a wild narrative. What happened to the finger?

A motherfucking gunshot. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, that's the only thing that could happen to it. What happened? Some robbery shit going wrong. So not your, somebody shot you, not you shot yourself. I saw some rumors of people like that. like you might have done yourself okay impossible right some robbery shit though so that's uh

is some shit that that happened and yeah we live somewhere else right damn also was out the crib yeah fuck that's got to fuck up your uh sense of security man not for real she happened she happened still walking still reading still reading still make money what's it like not having the finger it's like I look like my granddaddy my granddaddy missing the finger really if you hear me I call that nigga telling me between us I don't be tripping over it like shit could have been way worse so right it's kind of like you got your own swag now to a whole new extent no I've been at my own sauce now it's just like I can crack jokes about something else like everything funny in my life any fucking way so you feel I'm probably gonna tattoo it or some shit like

right you know what I'm saying I just throwing a bitch off with my videos put it on bitch's but it's a very hip-hop thing to uh have like you know playboy carded with the giant blotch on his face it's like you take the thing that makes you a little out of the ordinary and you just kind of make it your own thing oh you're supposed to like it's it's it's a life that a nigga living that you know shit like that might happen you feel it ain't the first time bullets have been shot at me It ain't the first time I almost died. It ain't the first time.

It might not be the last time. Just got out for a bitch, you feel me? That's what it is. The nigga, I had to use a gun, and the gun are being used on me. That's what it is. Yeah, damn, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's some...

I was like 11 first time. I didn't tell me to hold a gun. Really? Yeah, yeah. Put this up, face ass. So, do you move around differently now, or is it... I mean, you said you moved.

that day but I probably like nine times out of ten have security when I'm moving but not all the time you managed to keep that out of the media for the most part too right yeah because it really wasn't nothing to talk about it's an open case it's still an open case no it was oh okay so but somebody got arrested in regards to it really how that was gonna happen because you would never talk another one another long pause I mean, it just feels like it would be like losing an old friend. No, losing an old friend is like losing an old friend. Right, but I mean, you know, your finger has always been there for you.

I got ice it out or something. Does it with you as a gamer? Because that top left button, I guess your middle finger could hit that shit. Nope. Middle finger. Middle finger. Middle finger now. Middle finger trigger finger.

Damn. Yeah, because we were talking about this for so long. because we weren't really on great terms and I remember me and certain people just being like look at the like in this one video like look look you can kind of see it right there like we yeah because I was trying to get a clear view of it yeah because I couldn't just like ask you because we were all trying to figure it out like did you did you try to hide it for a little while because I like interviewed you all my ass on right yeah my shit was wrapped up done so it wasn't like I was hand it like yeah wrapped up I think like one of the employees actually was like yo I think it's

things miss I'm like what the like how am I going to figure it out. It's kind of awkward, you know, you don't want to just, like, bring that shit up. No, it is what it is, man. Everything, everything is awkward. Everything could be weird. It's all by how you interpret it, man. Right. Because I've been so much serious shit going on, bro. I don't be tripping on that, no, man. Vaughn's legend, obviously has, like, grown a shitload since he's been gone, and now, obviously, Trappler-Ross did this documentary where he speculates that he might,

have like killed seven people what uh what's it like for you to see someone that you were close with all of a sudden have this insane lore about them i ain't watch it i don't know man vibe v v v v i was a boo-doo man that was and it was funny he was genuine you know what i'm saying And I was my homie. Like, I don't really know nothing about him on his other side. That wasn't the side. Didn't nobody knew for real, bro. Like, I know Trappler Ross didn't know it for real.

I mean, he's putting it together based on social media shit and speculation on Reddit and whatever kind of. Listen. Stuff he can get his hands on. It's whole, it's whole, I don't know how long videos is, But this whole big ass put together videos about me and Doug, bro. And the bitch is just 89% false. Really?

Literally. Because that's a beef that it's hard to find too much information about. Because what the fuck is y'all trying to find it for one. If it's too, like me and that man don't speak on each other. You know what I'm saying? Like in interviews or none of that type of shit. Like if you, the city you know you know you know you know you're saying just like with my hand if you're from

the city you know you know like i never gave a fuck to jump out and try to defend it or explain what the fuck happening in my hands is my business you feel me at the end of the day the day of end secondly with me and bro you know what i'm saying we do like any videos that the motherfucker got put together on the internet about me and that niggas like bro how you're saying we're doing like bro, how could y'all possibly know anything that me and that niggas into it about? Like, y'all just couldn't know. Y'all couldn't know.

But I'm telling you, my mom, like, I didn't seen the thumbnails of the videos and all that shit, like, while I've been on stream, you know? I'd have seen it. I ain't watch it, I ain't click it. You feel me? And I just noticed, well, I think it was one that I did, like, kind of halfway watching.

That's why I know, like, this shit is like a bunch of cap in there. You feel me? because they're just saying shit that just don't make sense. But yeah, man. But so the Doug thing is like a rare situation nowadays where you have issues with somebody who is also the type of guy who's not going to just talk about it online

like most people these days? So when you have two people that aren't trying to volunteer information, there's just a massive desire for somebody who's going to break it down in a YouTube video. So like the dude who does it is going to get a hell of views, even if he has no clue and doesn't actually have much information to go on but hey you're gonna have to just make some shit up bro because yeah what the where where is where is it where to pull up

pull up beside baby this song you can't bro I ain't never released no song they got the parentheses this song in it I ain't never released no song where I'm blatantly saying, fuck, blank, blank, or fuck, blank, blank. It's not your style. Oh, man, shit ain't gangster. Well, I'm telling y'all I got a problem with this, man. Because, like, if I actually got a problem with somebody,

and I don't told y'all in my music for years what I'm going to do to this nigga. And then something happened to him. and my phone pinging in the area, you know how police get all that type of shit, you feel, me like, there's no way I'm being able to have it because I've been telling y'all for years in my music that, like, no, bro, I don't make this songs and I don't even know what to diss that nigga about.

Like, the situation, it ain't in my hands of his hands. You feel me? Like, it'll be in our hands to want to move it in a different direction, but as far as us saying, like, or me, saying like nigga yeah I'm just fucking anything I don't I don't know that nigger you feel me respect but also when we talk about Vaughn that's the motherfucker who understood the value of beef because he from Chicago though he was going crazy on duck up until the moment that it wasn't

really useful to him anymore because he was getting so big and granted he might have had some valid reasons because there was shit talk going back and forth with girls and all this type of stuff but he just eagerly hops into it with young boy realizing that he's got to do battle with the best in order to be the greatest and realizing that his street reputation might have been bigger than young boys obviously this did not work out well in the long run but that was someone who you just got to see like a test case of just what it's like to be a rapper who's down to just go at it with whoever because most people are a bit more reserved don't necessarily want to throw gas on the fire you don't want to do that though bro that ain't that ain't that

ain't what he intended to do neither though you know what I'm saying like but as a nigga he was on what he was on like he wasn't he wasn't faking no fun with whatever his emotion was you feel me nigga I think he had it said in his man that nigga when he sain't that man he was gonna put his on him You feel me and I went. I wish it didn't go out there, but it did. If he had lived a couple extra years, he would have probably been able to, like, mature to the point

where he wouldn't have made a decision like that. But unfortunately, that situation happened and it happened early on his career. He didn't get a chance to really, you know, he was probably, like, institutionalized and shit. He was locked up for a long-ass time. He's not moving around, like, a person who has a lot to lose yet because he hadn't really, like,

scene yeah by would have been what it would be like to lose it by would have been like the biggest motherfucker oh my god the biggest rapper of Chicago for sure yeah he'd have been the biggest rap out of Chicago right now but yeah that's something saying like they that's a day that's they as they you know they Chicago diggers beef way Chicago diggers and New York niggas beef way different than everybody else in the fucking country right like It's beef in Detroit, but like, to the certain extent that Chicago niggas and New York niggas go, like, to disrespect the other side. Like, hey, they'd be bugging the fuck up, man.

But, like, there's all the big Detroit artists and shit, and then there's, like, a layer that's, like, a bit below them. No, no, no. Who are dissing the fuck out of each other. Shout on my man, Big Key. I knew he's about to say that. It's a layer, it's a layer of niggas that's for show. They're on that type of town, for sure.

Back and forth. It's working out for something. They got millions of views off talking about this shit. Godfather man, yeah, they get to press in the buttons and don't give a fuck, you feel I mean? But then all the like really big rappers in Chicago or excuse me in Detroit don't really do much of the beef shit. It's kind of weird. What you say?

Say it again? Like the big rappers out of Detroit don't really do a lot of beefing in the music. Because why? Right. But most of them didn't get big by doing that either. Because for the most part. You see what I'm saying? Like, nigga, I'm not about to make no bunch of this songs.

know every time I have a show it's all bitches. I might be rapping about this musty-ass-nigger to these hos. No, bro. No, school, bro. Put the booty-shaking music on. Put the shoot-em-up, bang-bang on. I'm very good at making a whole disrespectful song aimed at nobody. Whole song, just rile you up.

You can't even be on bang, bang, bang, you hear me. But it's not a diss song, and I'm not handing nobody, you know? What happened with you and the SDG? With me and G. What happened with me and G? All right, so what happened with me and G was I was running on Instagram You feel me

And it was by XXL And I said They had a couple of people on there That their first Million View video was A song I'm featured on And that was my whole That was my argument

And I wasn't really trying to disrespect, bro You feel me? But he took it as I was trying to like little dog him and you know what I'm saying he he's like nigga I ain't need you for nothing and all that type of shit and it just came off wrong from from my way you know what I'm saying at the time and he responded how he's supposed to respond a nigga he's supposed to hell this next like it would have seemed like I was trying to horse him but I wouldn't though I really my um I was mad at A66 Hill like my anger was towards them

You feel me? Because I felt like in a way it was some... That they chose that at the time, my trajectory and what I had going on was way more stronger and compelling than what them niggas had going on. And that was my opinion. And I still feel like that.

You know what I'm saying? Like I feel like the two times where I could have made freshmen, I didn't get looked at at all. And that shit hurt. Like it hurt me real bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a person who,

I want them awards. You know what I'm saying? Like I want my credit for shit like that. So, yeah, that shit fuck with me. So the whole thing about, because didn't ESTG get shot after you guys did a music video together? That ain't nothing to do with me.

That was actually, like, totally unrelated. Damn. Hell yeah. Like, that's when we still was friends. Right. They had nothing doing me. Like, we was in Louisville. Like, what he got going on in Louisville,

he'd been here going on in Louisville. You know what I'm saying? Like, he really from down there. I'm saying. He ain't, like, nigs be trying to stick with the football shit all the time. Like, bro, he's a nigga who played football good, bro. But, you know what I'm saying?

He's been in the mix. So that ain't had nothing to do with me. Because we had, like, what the fuck happened? Right after the video shoot, we was about to go, we was about to the gas station. And then while I was like, no, we're going to go, we might go down

a little further or something, you feel? But some, some, some, our ex, the, the way we was going, it was gonna be a gas station by the freeway like entrance you hear me so we went down like two more blocks what's name we got we get to the gas station get on the freeway dmuff and probably not even like i'm talking about like not even like a fool of men of us right on the freeway nigger um it might have been ricky or one of our people called and told us that they had just tried to shoot them niggins and shout out of them or something like that but everybody was straight

crazy yeah but yeah like that's this shit that shit happened with me and because i made an instagram video just saying they had people on the list that they first meeting view video was with me you know so is that when you say that like now every time you're about to tweet something or say something you just kind of stop yourself and don't tweet it is that like an example of like something that if you had thought about it for an extra 10 seconds you would have been like i'm gonna say like this because I don't want to necessarily offend homie? I think more than anything

like I still would have said it the exact same but I would have probably would have sent him a message saying like when you see this don't think I'm trying to take no jab at you right you know what I'm saying like I want to try to hold you bro were you just

were you disappointed that Skilla didn't make the double XL cover um I felt like he should have made it but I feel like he's going to be a shoe in to make it next year, like, regardless. Right, yeah, he's still building. Yeah, like, he's still getting it going, but I feel like he could have made it easily this year.

I don't want to say I was disappointed because I don't think he was that mad about it. Whenever I look at it, I see a lot of people that I'm like, I can just guarantee that the label was doing a lot of behind-the-scenes maneuvering to make this happen, because you see people who are assigned to certain labels who get on the double-exel cover way early or who never even end up having a fucking career at all.

And I just assume that there's got to be a lot of backseat dealings and that that's one of the kind of things that you would expect a label to be able to be useful for. But, you know, it's just a lot of making friends and stuff, which is not necessarily something that you seem really like dedicated to befriending everybody in the game. so that you can get ahead, you know? Yeah, I don't.

I got, I got, like, the few rappers that I do with is, like, it's probably, like, five of them. You know what I'm saying? I could call out her text, and they had text back or call it in a respectable manner, but, like, I don't think none of them, like, my super-duper road dog, right-hands, I'll talk to every day or the week

or at least weekly at all. Like I talk to them when I reach out or when they reach out and, you know, but as far as being extra cool with other artists just to like damn near latch on or, I don't know, use some of that light to help me. I never really, like, I never really tried to get pushed over into that category. So I'd damn near cut the link up short. Right. Yeah. Because you got into it with academics like around the same time that you got to do it with me. I didn't.

Wine got into it. Wahn got into it, right? Okay. I don't, I did not get into a fucking academics. That was kind of surreal for me to watch academics do a stream talking about Juan. Man, listen, I never thought I would see that. We was on a block. And we walked in the house and then they go and niggins over there crying laughing got wine ass on the YouTube on the screen.

We're looking at this shit. I mean, talking about son of baby's gone. This fucking manager. You just get mad at me for her. They didn't go do so to the niggies that robbed even. I'm like, wine, why is you? And the only reason I was mad, wine said something to us because even when wine,

not even excited and like trying to cut somebody out, he'll fuck around and miss some words in the text message. So I knew like whatever he sent him, he missed a couple words and it was in all caps, and I'm just like, oh. Wasn't ready to survive the scrutiny of academics reading it in a dramatic voice stream he like but why I took it like he knew there's a chance of me being mad at it

you get me so he called me like this don't be mad at me and I'm like what happened he like man I don't went viral or academic shit I'm like for what he like I try to cussie my about posting the dope boy video and I got up and check my feed and I'm just like man this nigger here yeah wine he said wine 99 he put that nigga whole Instagram up there a lot that shit's hilarious but he's not here today's he's still on the team or what no wine around okay yeah he here he at LA oh okay got it when I didn't see him here I was like ooh change no he was skilling oh okay yeah here interesting

um have you done shrooms since that one one time that we did them yeah you did it more yeah I had I had a I had a almost bad trip but it wasn't really bad trip it's just like I'm not never eating that many shrooms again were you eating actual shrums or eating some kind of candy real shrooms okay and I forgot what they was called where were you at that you even wanted to do this was at home by yourself yeah like I was eating because I'm like okay you can lock in off of them you feel me so I was I was treating my like It was like a natural aterol or something, you feel me?

But the bitches ended up giving me a hassle. Like I took them, I took him, and I started trying to play Call of Duty. Play first game, good. And in the middle of the second game, then it just kicked in hard. I'm like, damn, when I finished the game, I tell bro, I'm like, bro, hold on, y'all need to wait for him and I'll be back. And I went to go lay down. It was just hot.

Got in the shower, chained pajamas, got in the shower, chained pajamas, then, stay in the shower. You feel, me? and I can see like my TV from the bathroom. So I'm watching the movie while I'm in charge of chilling because I'm like, I'm like, this shit feels crazy. Yeah, it's a little freaky for me. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it.

I ain't like it. I ain't like it. And when I finally came down, I'm like, I'm like, I'm never, ever eating that many mushrooms again. Really? I'm glad I was at the crib, though. But so you could do a small amount though? You'd still be interesting.

Yeah, I do a little. I do like a little. You got something? Uh, you don't. Oh, yeah, I got nothing. Oh, yeah, my same. Amber Rose was just in here and she was telling me that she did a ketamine therapy I'm cool small amounts of horse tranquilizer every day I'm cool I don't eat like kettle corn

Which which it of course is related to Nah, I I snorted some ketamine and some warehouses back in the day, but yeah, stop that shit No, I was young. Okay, not really I was in my early 30s See, look you know some bullshit have you tried the whoops? No man As a blood. Seems like you might want to try them out. That's what I'm saying. You know, we've been saying woofs for me.

Right. What is the name of fruit loops? Yeah, basically. He just put fruit loops in there. He doesn't even have a real cereal. It's a bunch of bullshit. I'm going to expose him. Oh, man.

Damn. You over whoop him or you're going to expose him for real? No, but I mean, yeah, it is fruit loops, basically. I don't know if he's really like pulling the world. Oh, wait. So I'm sorry, the same person made, the Durkios made them? No, the Durkios. was like a promotional thing for one of his albums

a couple years ago, maybe like five years ago or some shit, and then FYBJ Maine came in here, saw it, and started kind of like jokingly hating on it, and then that motivated him to make his own cereal, which is based around the Durkios, which is pretty

crazy to think about. That's crazy, though. That's the origin of that. Damn V's got cereal? Yeah. Somehow we've collected three rapper serials. I ain't no bees and serious

That's hard Yeah Yeah It's a whole thing Also Jason Lee gave me A mandingo Hall of Fame award But Yeah I seem to go

I wouldn't go ask about them I was talking to him About it last night Um Amber Oh yeah I already told you about the ketamine Right

Don't snort it I was with her last night too Is that the fucking I went to this crazy party Last night I stayed out I only get a lot of sleep So if I see him a little bit

Like wonky this interview. What'd you do? No, man. What? You was Rambrose doing what? I don't know. Talking about bitches, basically. Oh man, the one nigga made a song about your wife. Who? Uh, Richard. Oh, yeah, I didn't listen to it. He keeps tagging me and I refuse to listen to it. You serious? If he comes here, I'll react to it. You serious? Yeah, I haven't heard it. You really ain't listened to the song? No. Is it good? I'm not saying nothing. He can say whatever he wants.

He's a comedian. He's gonna fuck around and make a song about me. On King David. Oh, King David, Shorty. Yeah, right here. He's gonna put this on his own. You know who I am? You like that, though?

That's like gang comedy. No, he, like, so. Same with Jamie. So, like, that's, that's his, that's his, that's his, that's his, that's his own camera thing, or this is, that's him off camera. He's a little more chill off camera for sure. That's fire. Yeah. That's fire.

If he turned on, turn up, that's cold. But I feel like if an op ran up on. him he would be on that the exact thing that he is on Instagram right yeah for sure if somebody like was trying to fight him for sure because he just like is always acting like that version of yourself that you turn into when you're about to have to fight somebody you know how you just start acting like a wrestler and just saying all this crazy tough shit when you're about to have to fight you know our monikers you say all slogans you don't say nothing that makes sense real you just say all slogans

All slogans don't say nothing that actually makes sense. But it's like the same mentality when you're like doing adlives to like start a rap song kind of. Yeah, like, hmm. Like, especially with me. You know who the fuck it is. Uh, you want to stay away from that. Well, that's kind of old, yeah. Yeah, you don't really want to run that one.

Like, like, check it, check it. Like, nah. Chea, like nothing with a C. Yeah. Like, nah. No, all that shit. These are adlib rules? I'm just saying the ones that's kind of still.

Yeah. Never really even had to think about it. No, that's good. You think about it more if you had some mushrooms, though. You had some mushrooms next time. Yeah,

I'd be overwopened if I had some mushrooms. I don't know. I'm not really trying to do that to myself. That's not how I want to spend my Friday night. Today Friday? Yeah. That's a very rapper thing of you to not know what day of the week it is.

Yeah. I get my nieces. How did it feel when I FaceTime you with Crip Mac? I was just about to ask you, but we're a nifty, nifty, man. I thought about having him on this episode, but to be honest, he tends to kind of like consume the podcast. It kind of becomes very much the Krip Mac show.

I would like that to happen. Well, to say that he has main character syndrome would be an understatement for sure. I would like to get you guys together, though. But I felt like we had to kind of like catch up before we were able to bring in. I just seen, I thought he was starting a show. A show? Yep. He has a show called Mac Venture.

with China Mac yeah no no no not that one was spiffy spiffy he got a joint show with spiffy or something spiffy Luciano yes I don't know I just seen this conversations with spiff Mac really wow that's I'm saying yeah man he's doing a lot of things you taught him how to be a motherfucking podcaster and he taught me how to be That's very nifty. He taught me how to be nifty. What, he's got to go? You're on a schedule?

I guess. Do you know where you're going? I think back to this fucking studio. You hear that? What the fuck is that cement truck? Yeah, the new, y'all got the new compound on a landfill. That's crazy. I never heard a noise that loud while I was here.

It was insanely loud. I don't know. You said I got going on. I got, just doing press for the CD that's going to come out of my birthday. That's it. nice yeah I listened to it on the drive here who gave you the fucking CD I don't know I got an email with the link where'd that come from Laura the team handles it over I won't leak it don't worry about it don't worry about it I don't have a history

of that yeah but yeah why should why should the people out there be a side of baby fan it's like the dumbest lamest question I could think of but it's kind of funny because you could hit us over the head with a fire answer and it would like make up for the lameness of the question. Because some shit that you probably think, some shit that you probably think that you like from a new artist that you listen to, you'd love it coming from my way.

Because I probably do it better. And I'm just, I'm a real boo-doo, man. Like, I like America's most interesting blood. Right. You know what I'm saying? And one day I'm listening to Nathaniel. Next day, I'm listening to Shear. Next day, I'm listening to Peso Pluma.

And next day, I'm listening to motherfucking... Pesop peso, pesto. Mudd fucking Debo. I still one song. I like I'm Debo. Think that she loves me, not at all. You know that song? No.

You know that song from the bait? No. I ain't gonna lie. That's your her. I can't take it. It's a little light skin girl with the dress. Or I'd be listening to Kamaya. Ooh, love fun.

You hear me? Yeah. Nigger. Or I just go back to my good old Coritos. Like, you gotta come check it out over here, man. We have fun. You listen to the Coritos? Yeah, man.

I'm like a young Cholino Sanchez. Is that the other thing you talk about in your Mexican group chat? Yeah, shit like that. They put you on to the Caritos. Yeah, okay. But do you even speak Spanish? Are they all Spanish?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there you go. Boyanchi, Cala. I don't know what that means, but I do. I live right next to Mexico and I don't know, a lick of Spanish. You better go over there. Yeah.

Get you a motherfucker shrimp cocktail houseway. I see my fucking housekeeper teaching my kid's Spanish and I'm realizing that she's going to have way better Spanish than me. Like Dick and Jane, they're going to call home and ain't going to believe that's your house because your kid is going to be speaking Spanish to my holo. Yep. Hola.

So it's still big bloods out here. Yeah, there's a lot of bloods everywhere. Very bloody. You keeping it bloody? There's a lot of bloods everywhere. On pyro. Ooh. That's Mad YG, like two days ago. How was that?

Cool as hair. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I fuck with him. Legends. Facts. I'm gonna show you this dude is Snoopy badass. He's a very, very high quality blood. Great American.

Mm-hmm. All right, man, Sada baby. It was great catching up. I'll be back. I wish you the best luck in your career. You should definitely become a podcast. We're going to figure it out. Yeah, man.

I got to understand the right way to do it. Interesting. It's all the thing about. All right. Sada, baby, no jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. Check us out on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe, nojumper.com if you want to support.

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