No Jumper - Sara Molina on 6ix9ine, Future Dissing Her, Rich The Kid Drama & More

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Sara Molina candidly shares about her latest projects, motherhood, how hard it is to deal with her baby daddy 6ix9ine, reacts to Snow Billy interview and dishes on NBA Youngboy, Rich the Kid and Akade...miks! 4:21 - 6ix9ine has another kid that he's not taking care of "He's just NOT a good father" 16:30 - Sara Molina explains how she ended up on Rich the Kid's video and what really 19:19 - Sara beefing with Future on social media seeing Sara with Rich the Kid 28:12 - Sara is scared of NBA Youngboy "I thought he was gonna kill me" 36:42 - 6ix9ine almost off house arrest, sill have the same solid group of friends and same security : Sara retorts to Adam about everything ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumber. Coolest podcast in the world. We in here today with the one and only Sarah Molina. This is the third time, although one of the times was over FaceTime. Yeah, it was. You leaked my number. Yeah. I'm still living with the pain of knowing that I put you through that.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Are you really? I mean, no, not really, but it did like feel like a pretty horrible thing to do at the time. A whole lot of rope game rope. And especially that was just like the number one time period where you were probably getting a shitload of stuff sent your way in general, right? Yeah, early 2019. So it was really hectic. That was when stuff was like super hectic?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Yeah, it was still no. Just a lot of things going on. A lot of not knowing what's going on to. Do you feel like you've adjusted a bit to your status? Does it feel weird to be so like trapped in this web of like sort of thing? Well, definitely fame, but it can get overwhelming sometimes, but it's just like, it's already been something that's been going on for so long already. It's just like I adapted or it's just something that I'm already used to. It's not as shocking. definitely where are you like how is your life changed since the last time we talk like what's your living situation like what are you up to etc i feel like you've kind of you know you've definitely
Starting point is 00:01:26 been in like sort of a state of you know figuring out what it is that you want to do with the platform that you now have and shit right absolutely i think last year i kind of was going through every door that i possibly could so it just i had so many things going on that i didn't have I've set time to focus on one thing at a time to really figure out if that's what I like more than the other. So it's just like then overall with the attention, I felt like I really couldn't handle it. It was just tons of pressure and I don't know what the fuck it is to like really have that type of attention from a bunch of crazy people, normal people. It didn't matter. It was just very overwhelming when people thought they knew who I was.
Starting point is 00:02:16 was too so that that was more the like the frustrating part of it but at this point I really don't care it's just some it feels like it's just it's just some shit you went through and it doesn't define you it's just you know it's the thing you dealt with I let it blow with the wind I don't care what anybody really has to say about me these days right at all it's crazy though because it feels like your ex is very determined to like throw you in the conversation as often as possible because it's like a way for him to scrounge up some sympathy. Like if he can convince everybody that you and you with his former gang members did something truly horrible to him, then that makes it so that his fans or people who want to believe
Starting point is 00:03:00 him can say, okay, like he was wronged, and that's why what he has done is defensible. The people that matter don't believe him, and I'm perfectly fine with that. That's all that matters to me. I don't care about any of these strangers that think they know the truth. I never have to encounter them in my life. Why do I care about what anybody who doesn't know me personally has to, what they have to say or think about me? Right.
Starting point is 00:03:29 It's just, I'm not going to lie. It's kind of unfortunate that that first live, he decided to get on very angrily and aggressively the way he did and just kind of, depict my character like he said on a live to two million people something that's just very hurtful
Starting point is 00:03:51 and still something that he's still using to gain sympathy for the things that he's done so I it's just like if that's what you're still on I'm kind of good with this distance not communicating any of it so whatever helps him sleep better at night that's shit that he has to do with
Starting point is 00:04:11 because the reason why he brought that up was because that was how he was trying to defend not seeing his kids, right? No, he has another kid that the baby mama, there's nothing wrong with her. He just doesn't claim the kid and it's biologically, it's proven. Oh, okay. So he's got another kid that he's not seeing as well as your kid that he's not seen. Yeah, so what's the excuse with that? Right. I mean, he's not a good father. That's just what it is. So while he was locked up, he was in touch with the kid? Or was that not even the case? because that's kind of like what I read is that he was in communication and then once he got out
Starting point is 00:04:47 the communication stopped and that was his excuse no what it was towards like the end of the year around when his case started to maybe around December December that's when they got the verdict he was going to get like two years but it was really some little less than a year and house arrest. His mother reached out maybe the weekend before and she said on a Friday she was like, oh
Starting point is 00:05:17 after going almost the whole year without talking to us, seeing if we were okay, if my daughter was fine, oh, can we have the baby stay over our house and we'll bring the baby back Wednesday? I was like you went a whole year without
Starting point is 00:05:34 you know, without reaching out to even caring about whether or not my daughter is fine, your granddaughter, his daughter. And I already saw the motive. It was just, you just wanted to stay with the baby until Wednesday to bring her to court. Because that's when they were going to get his verdict or whatever. Oh, wow. So they wanted to be able to use that as like a sympathy token?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah. Yeah, but it's just like even in the support letters that they didn't even write themselves, they had their lawyers right. his brother and his brother's support letter it said that my daughter was six years old my daughter's four they couldn't even get
Starting point is 00:06:13 you couldn't even get or tell your Lord to get your niece's age right it's just it was just a bunch of bullshit you know but it's just like a little soon after that I was letting his mom
Starting point is 00:06:28 and his brother see the baby you just you know I had communication set up between Danny and my mom. So they were communicating. Look, I'm not here to make your life any more worse than what you already made it. Right. As long as you do right, be a father and be the father that our daughter deserves and needs
Starting point is 00:06:50 because you can be a father, but you can be a shitty one, like the one you're choosing to be. Right. You know, then I'm not going to stop you from seeing the baby. It's just certain things within time that I got to see for myself that it's going to be okay to place our daughter. in whatever environment you have yourself in because of the mess you've made. Because that's like the most serious decision that you could possibly be making is just to have, you know, somebody else taking care of your kid for any period of time. Like, as a mother.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I mean, that's like the biggest thing. Yeah. And it's just he's labeled. So it's just, and that in itself is more stressful than the in between petty beef that you want to start with me. Okay. Right. It doesn't help the situation. It's just, it's not about me or him.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Do you get child support? No. Do you, have you tried? Are you in the system of trying to, like, make that happen or whatever? That seems kind of insane, given that he. I've never even cared to get a dollar from him. That's why it's never been done. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. Just because you don't want to have to reduce yourself to having that conversation? Or what's the thought process? No, it's just I know that it, to me, It's actually a really sad situation that it would take for me to have to put you on child support to want to financially take care of your child. You know, that's the sad thing about it. And then secondly, I feel like I don't want to have that interaction because he is not about our child. It's about all the other wrong things that at the end of day don't matter.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Right. Just to bring myself that type of frustration. for financial support from him, I'd rather not. He's a headache in itself. It's just not someone really not worth dealing with, especially now at the moment. Right. Does this like complicate your existing? Are you still with the same guy that you were with last time we did the interview?
Starting point is 00:08:53 No. No, that didn't work out. No. What went wrong? Is there a lot of pressure dating you? No, it's just a lot of fake shit going on that I necessarily thought I was separating myself from but really wasn't. What do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:09:07 You think he was just in it for the clout? Oh, absolutely. Really? Yeah. Wow. How did that become evident to you? It was self-admitted. It was just like, this is what I came into it doing, but I really grew to love and care
Starting point is 00:09:22 for you and it just didn't sit well, or it was weighing heavy on my heart that this is, that I rather say it than someone else say it. Right. Yeah, so I'm like, ah. I should have never said nothing at all, dummy. Like, I don't care if you love me now. What? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So that, it didn't seem like it was that kind of situation, and then he, like, was he just trying to bear a soul and he thought you would relate to it? You would understand? Yeah, it's just like, it's kind of something I'm still working on. It's not really perfected, but it's just like I really dwell on the fact that I've, spent a lot of years with one person.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And one of my biggest regrets was that I didn't check out sooner, you know? So something that's bad with me now, I'll drop you real quick. I'm not wasting no more time. It's just like I don't want to invest unnecessary time into people at all. Definitely. So what's it like being single? It's got to be kind of weird. I feel like you haven't really been single for any significant portion of time
Starting point is 00:10:32 since you sort of became a household name in the streets. I mean, I can't complain. I don't have to deal with anybody, really. So that's good. I'm scared to being single. I'm scared of being lonely. You think that that's what it is, being lonely if you're single? I mean, I feel like it would be lonely,
Starting point is 00:10:54 especially as me as somebody who's had this like emotional support unit for years. No, you're lonely if you separate yourself. You can be single and have a lot of. interaction with other people, friendships and stuff like that. It's not a single life isn't a lonely life necessarily. That's true. I don't trust these hoes, though, to be totally honest. I feel like, you know, I'm too closed off.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I can't imagine putting myself into all the situations I used to put myself into. Holy fuck. They all seem so foreign now. I mean, you got a good situation going on, so. That's true. It's very true. It's very surprising. That I'm reproducing.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't even think we talked about the last time that you were on the podcast. We did. Lennon was trying to convince. convince, get me to convince her to not want to get pregnant, but it's just like, I couldn't do that. I'm a mom. Right. And I mean, she was trying to convince you to start an only fans and you were trying to convince her to have a baby. Yeah. It didn't work out? I mean, I know you're thinking about now. On my end, it did. I mean, I convinced you guys to have a baby and here you guys are. But you're not making an only fans? Yeah. So she took the out. Yeah, she took the out. That's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I wish I could have seen her today, but... Oh, yeah, she's off. She's getting into, like, kind of a weird... Is she, like, mentally preparing herself for this? Yeah, but it's kind of weird because, you know, she thought that the ending months of her pregnancy or, like, not even the ending months, but she thought that she was going to be spending a lot of time traveling and that she was going to be, you know, all over the world and shit.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And then instead, coronavirus can't go anywhere. We did go to... We went to Zion in Utah for, like, four days. or it was over there it's it's like a camping type thing but it's a little bit it's not like you're in like an actual tent it's kind of it was fun but i mean that that would just stood out a lot you too could do some outdoors shit she planned everything this is not the kind of thing that i would necessarily and it's not really that outdoorsy it's called glamping because it's like glamorous camping i believe is what it stands for if it's outdoors it's camping no it's like inside of a tent
Starting point is 00:12:57 but then it's almost like you're inside like a half decent like hotel room but the walls are like made a canvas and shit. And the first night, it was blowing, the wind was blowing so fucking hard that it was like sonic booms outside. We couldn't sleep or anything. It was very weird. Mm-mm. Right. But so is it, is the coronavirus driving you insane or is that just her because she's an expecting mother that it's... No, it's a, she's an expecting mother. I'm not going to lie. I was like, I don't even think I should come out here because of the spike that went up up here. You guys had a fucking spike. We did. Like when everybody was first protesting.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I don't think I ever see you with a mask, though. I had a couple fashion of depicts with a mask. When everybody's protesting, I started to really feel like, fuck this shit. This shit is over. Like, it's just over. It's not, it's like nobody's staying in the house anymore. And now I'm like fully scared again, you know, doesn't, like, I'm not really trying to leave the house.
Starting point is 00:13:56 People keep inviting me to do shit. Does she leave the house a lot? No, she's way more paranoid than I am. That's good. Yeah. She's super mega, mega paranoid, like doesn't take any risk. Is she watching a diet still? I know that was the thing she was doing.
Starting point is 00:14:09 My diet? Yes. She's helpful. Actually, I would say it's going in the other direction since she got pregnant because now she keeps mad candy bars and cereal around and shit. So it's kind of like she's the one pushing me in the bad direction at times. Okay, okay. I was eating really healthy until Corona hit.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I had lost so much weight and I gained some of it back as soon as we started to have to be in the crib, you know? I feel like you actually look skinnier from last time I've seen you. Yeah, it's been a while. I was like 10 pounds less than I am now, which was really exciting. I just got to keep grinding. I get you back to that. Where's the gallons of water?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Right here. This niggas always drinking out of gallons of water. I'm a gallon guy, you know? That's just who I am. I got to have a gallon around me at all times. So basically the main thing that I thought was really fucking. crazy that we've seen go down with you and I felt like it was it was it was an experiment and you trying to like do something new trying to do something different that doesn't necessarily like
Starting point is 00:15:12 fit with like the persona that you had necessarily built for yourself and it felt like it kind of blew up how did this situation with you doing the video with rich the kid and whatnot how did that how did that come about how did you get hit up about it and what did you think it was going to be I thought it was going to be so, so, so, so funny. I really did. And it really was. It was really funny to see how everything played out. I think it was after Mother's Day.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And from what everybody else was seeing, apparently there was some words between my daughter's father and Rich the Kid online, about something about Richard Millie's watches or whatever the case was. Who's the king in New York? That conversation. was taking place. Hey, you ain't sold this many records and you ain't the king of New York kid. Some stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:04 No, and it was also something with Lil T.J. thrown in the mix. I didn't really know what the words were. I just know that they had some words and it wasn't really good. So I guess after something got reposted on the Shade Room of, I think my baby father responding to Rich the Kid, he DM'd me and he was like, Happy Mother's Day. The other's day was the day before. So I'm like, I just thought it was so fucking funny. He's being pretty.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I'm like, I see what you're doing. Yeah. Thank you. Right. So he was like, oh, I'm shooting a music video, come out in it. I told my manager, I'm like, he's doing a music video, but I don't do music videos. If you want, you handle something with him. She goes, she goes, I'm going to talk to him, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 She goes, you're going to go. they're going to pay you, you're going to go, and all you're going to do is sit in the car for, like, however many scenes that they need you in the car. I'm like, that's it? She was like, yeah. I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 00:17:08 I go, I showed up maybe, like, two hours late. I really did. That's respectful. Rich forever deserves better. No, no, no, no, no. It was literally the day before. It was so last minute.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay. So. You get the nails. done, the hair done. Make sure I looked okay, somewhat decent. And we get there, we're waiting on him now. I get in the car, and I guess he's trying to make small talk with me or whatever. And freaking, that's it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It was just, like, straightforward. You're going to walk from the car to the sidewalk and then do the same thing. I'm like, okay, and then when you get in the car, you're going to drive off, but look this way and we're going to follow you. I literally did that. He asked me if I wanted to smoke with him. I told him no. They gave me my money.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And as I'm leaving out the car, I guess he had security or someone take pictures. Okay. To be a little funny or whatever, so I didn't care. I honestly didn't care. What took me for a loop was when Future decided to chime in. And the quote from Future was, they using end words baby mamas as props now young end words turt which would definitely have sounded a lot
Starting point is 00:18:32 cooler coming from the mouth of future yeah sounded a little lame out of my white ass mouth but you know that's i had responded and i'm not too sure what i said i said something and then he goes something something she's for the streets i said with nine different baby mamas you are the and then it was just going back and forth but I'm like mind your business like I really enjoy your music I don't want to have to feel some type of way we still bump future but it's just like it was he did that he did that little banter with me for like three days and then he dropped his album so I'm like because it was getting reposted every time like me and him would go back and forth right so I guess that's his little promo that's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:22 crazy. Like future seems like somebody. It was so smart though. I get it. I didn't think of it as album promo, but that is really smart because it's kind of like you need a little bit of beef when your album's coming out, even if it's not that serious. But normally future is like number one dude who is not going to have anything to say about whatever other people's drama is. Normally he's very removed from that. So I was kind of shocked to see him just weighing in. And me of all people's like, don't. I really just mind my business. To you, I should. I should. should not be a thought or you shouldn't even care to have an opinion about me, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So I just saw as nothing other than him just getting attention because he's about to drop a project. Right. But so from your opinion, what, like, did you just see that as strictly a business opportunity? Because a lot of times there's this mentality of my enemy's enemy as my friend. I did it because I didn't care. But if you're like, if it was a job, it was straight business.
Starting point is 00:20:20 If there's a rapper who hate six, nine and they. Just like it makes sense that they would want to be cool with you. Okay. Because then you guys can sort of team up and hate on him together. That makes sense. That's the kind of stuff with C-A-L-L-A-L-L. I don't hate nobody. I don't hate nobody.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I go about my business. Everything I do is just business. I don't care. You know, I don't have a real issue with him, but I don't care to respect him. That's just what it is. I don't feel like I've been given any respect. Right. It's kind of weird because did you have any idea that, or did you,
Starting point is 00:20:52 Did you think at all that the implication with Rich the kid was going to kind of be like he had slept with you or that he was going to sort of try to make it seem like you were like with him? Was that the, were you aware? Did you even think about that that might be the vibe? Because that would be the ultimate disrespect, right? I mean, I don't think it should be a disrespect when he himself just disrespects me, my daughter's father. So I don't think it'll only be disrespectful if he cared or, you know. But you don't look at risk the kid like, man, that's a fine-looking man there. No, that's not me.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Okay. Not your type? No, it's just that's not me. He has a family, right? That's good. That's a good point, yeah. Tori bricks. Yeah, she's fire.
Starting point is 00:21:36 She is bad. Yeah, she's a bad one, so, like I said, good for them. But she was down for him to play some little reindeer games right there, I guess. What do you mean? I don't know. Just fooling around, having another rapper's baby mama in the car for some clout? I actually thought she was upset. Oh, she did get pissed about it, you think?
Starting point is 00:21:55 I think so, because after he posted that, he posted, there's nothing more than that I love than my family. Then he posted her skincare stuff. Oh, my God. Like her businesses and stuff like that. That's what I do. Me and my girl getting a fight, I post her only fans on my story. And, like, I'm like, he probably didn't tell her.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So I guess she has a reason to be upset. that's the type of stuff she gets upset about. Right. But so did this whole situation, did that make you not even want to, like, have anything to do with random ass rappers that you don't really know that well? Would you have done this situation again? No, I feel like these stupid rappers are like, they're so stupid. I feel like it's just they're all act the same.
Starting point is 00:22:43 There's really good artists who I can say they're cool. You know, they're good people, they're regular. They don't act weird. But then these young I think it's just the younger generation rappers that just irk my soul They do Why? Because they're like fucking low-key
Starting point is 00:23:01 Like TikTokers basically where they just have this mentality Of just wanting to go viral all the time Is that just sort of rip you're in the way? Yes, yes And it's just like the way they go about handling business And just themselves It's just so like childlike It just gets all right
Starting point is 00:23:17 You're a kid with money That's I feel like that's literally how they act like kids well part of it's got to be just you growing up too right because like now we're talking i mean obviously future is my age and rich the kid is uh you know fairly older but you know when you got somebody like uh like little tj you know like watching him and ruby rose and their whole situation was just like oh my god this is so hilarious because they're like kids they're like 18 19 20 is you know i would be mad if i was you know ruby rose is popping if you put yourself out there as a popping bad bitch to just let this little ass boy play you i i wouldn't so you're
Starting point is 00:23:58 not fan of him i honestly don't care for him like i came out did the little rolling loud thing because i got paid to do it oh you went out on stage i'm i forgot i think that's the whole beef too between him and my baby father is just like he the little tj's people was fucked up let me tell you something oh I went ahead, right? They picked me up from the hotel. I got into a little Lambo thing with a little TJ, and we're talking or whatever. He's trying to make conversation.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We got there. We're already late. And what it was, he was supposed to have, like, a throne on stage. I think the name of his album was supposed to be something along the lines of something king. Right. So I was just going to come out, but got paid to go ahead and put the crown on his head. They said, oh, we didn't have time. time to go into the trailer
Starting point is 00:24:50 backstage to get the crown. We're already 30 minutes behind. Can you just say that he's the king in New York? I'm like you guys really going to put me on the spot like that and not have shit set a certain way already
Starting point is 00:25:07 that this wouldn't be. I think I just thought that they lied to me and they played me and told me one thing and we were going to do another. Right. Because that's kind of weird to like To get paid to like endorse a product or to like just show up is one thing to get paid to like sort of act as if your opinion on something is different than it actually is.
Starting point is 00:25:28 That's that's a whole other thing. Yes. I was just like, oh my God, this doesn't shine really too much of a good light. But at this point, I really just don't care. Right. And I mean, this is rolling loud too where it's like this is the scene. And it was the first year in New York. I expected it to be something totally different, but they was pulling so many people.
Starting point is 00:25:48 from the lineup because of the gang affiliation. Yeah, that was crazy. It sucked. I was supposed to meet up with you, but it's just like, it never ended up happening. And I could have sworn to, I got, I had to do a double take. I thought I saw Smoke Perp. So I was just like, oh, shit. So you're, it's fades on site with Smoke Perp or what?
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, and I, no, no. She said, yeah. Let me stop. I don't want to fight with nobody. I was just pointless. I don't got no. beef with nobody at all whatsoever but do you resent that do you feel like he kind of like used you for a little bit of like trying to revive his career or something there um i feel like when any rapper or anybody that does
Starting point is 00:26:32 talk about me that is just that it's usually when they need a little clout yeah if they were doing amazing at that moment like drake drake ain't talking about sarah molina because he's doing good right so i mean future didn't have to talk about me at all either but still in your future you know his albums don't necessarily like get everybody talking like the way that they did maybe four or five years ago. So I guarantee that there's somebody at Future's label that had said to him at some point like, do you think that there's, you know, could you say something about this guy? Could you maybe like, you know, say that you don't like so and so. And it's easier though because of who I am, you know, I usually, the only time that I ever got real for me that I just don't speak
Starting point is 00:27:14 about at all is the NBA young boy thing that's why because you thought he was going to kill you yeah no real shit no let me not say that he's going to say that right where the reason he's locked up yes he told me he told you about that so i'm just like right because okay from my perspective this was one of the craziest things that ever happened to me is i the video just pops up of NBA young boy like, hey, Adam, you don't tell these stupid-ass bitches to leave my name out there. Mour fucking mom, we're going to have proms or some shit like that. And so I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I've met M.A. Young Boy before, but I, like, definitely didn't really, like, know that he would care about anything that was said on the podcast enough to actually say something about it, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:01 But it was bad timing because, like, at the time that I interviewed you and you happened to say, like, oh, young boy said this, this and this to me, I had just interviewed. I had just interviewed some like porn star girls and stuff and they said the exact same thing. So like it really was like a weird sequence of that. Yeah. So it wasn't just me making it up. No, no. If someone else that I don't know said the same things, it's just like I don't speak on any of my beefs anymore. Because right after that, I was just dealing with a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:31 His fans don't play. Young boys' fans. I didn't even realize he had that many fans. Oh yeah, they're crazy. That's like one of the. strong fan bases and rap realistically yeah i learned that the hard way yeah i definitely did did you feel like he you know because he he there was a point where he basically was trying to win you over right you feel like he's over that um no he's he's he's he's so not wired right that's he'll curse me out and
Starting point is 00:29:09 hit me up from someone else's account in his camp and just would like unblock me. Holy shit. But you want to know the best thing to happen. And I've never met him or never, like, never had any real conversation with him. It's just always been like, no, thank you. Thank you. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I'm fine. And he just curses me out. The thing that happened when, um, when that conversation, because he uploaded that video of him basically like not, I wouldn't say threatening me, but basically like warning me, I guess. But so I get hit up by his. lawyer on the phone basically to be like, yo, would you, like, did you feel like MBA young boy was threatening you there? I was like, no, not really. Like, I didn't take it that way. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm not a snitch, you know, I'm going to play about street codes. I felt fine, officer. And then he said, okay, well, is there any way that you would be down to like, you know, do a recording or something where you like explain to the judge that you never felt like your life was in danger? I didn't think it was going to, I think the response made that happen, him just responding to you. He didn't have to be so angry and respond to you. Yeah, I mean, you play that for a judge. They're going to think you're bugging. Because I think they put him back in because of what he said to me.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Like, they basically took that as a threat. Yeah, it wasn't me, though. I didn't say anything. That's a story for off-camera. I guess it's just, you know, me facilitating or enabling people to have conversations about him that got him a little heated. I mean, this is what you do, though. That's what I'm saying. I don't know why they get so mad.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's weird. People go out of their way to base their whole life around becoming well-known and famous. And then they get mad when people actually start talking about them. I mean, it's just things that they don't want to hear. Stuff that they... The truth beats down their ego. That's what it is. So it's just like, imagine being told something that you necessarily know is true but don't like about yourself. And other people start to point it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And when you're a successful rapper, you get to control everybody around you. You know, you get to cut off anybody who has a negative opinion about you, and it's very easy for them to then really believe their own story. They drink their own Kool-Aid, and it can be very hard for them to sort of deal with the fact that people online can say whatever they want. They can't really do anything about it. It does, they do get frustrated. I've seen it. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I've seen it plenty of times. Trust me. Would you date a rapper going forward, or do you feel like you're, like, super turned off to that? I feel like I'm just, I've seen it also. It's just like, I'm not very impressed by it. It's just, I'm not opposed to it. It's just, it has to be something that just feels different. I can't, I can't deal with a rapper that's always too high to function.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I can't deal with a rapper that's too egotistical. I can't just deal with any of the stuff that I just don't want to deal with. That's it. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting with like the future thing in particular, Because I feel like he's somebody who, four or five years ago, a lot of his super misogynistic rap lyrics actually made him like really, like people loved that and nobody was really questioning that.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And now like when he put out his last album, he had a lyric where he said like, I ride for my homies. I lied to my bitch. Oh, Lord, people were not fucking with that. They really like took him to task for that. Like, I mean, obviously most of his fans probably don't give a shit, but it felt like on Twitter, I saw more women.
Starting point is 00:32:38 angry about that future lyric then I wasn't Especially because people know it's true Because he really out here making like You know entire families left and right Yeah I just think it's crazy too He has so many things to say about baby mamas and stuff He's really he ain't shit
Starting point is 00:32:54 He's trying to grant his baby mama only a thousand dollars a month For child support for baby that's his Yeah It's horrible As a person I has kids on the way it does You know I wouldn't really like thought about it that much but now that does seem pretty fucked up. Like I was listening to Joe Bunn the other day,
Starting point is 00:33:11 and he said, he's like, if you don't pay for your kids or you don't take care of your kids, then I don't fuck with you. Like, I don't want to be friends with you if you are that kind of person, which I was surprised you have said it
Starting point is 00:33:23 because there's, you know, a certain period in rap where that was kind of like something that people were almost like, you know, I don't want to say people glorify it, but people wouldn't necessarily look down.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Not taking care of your kids? Yeah, I feel like that was something that people would gladly kind of turn their head. cheek too en wrap but now it becomes more. I feel like it was taking more seriously. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Back then, it's easier to get away with being a piece of shit now than what it was back then. You think? Absolutely. I feel like it's got more challenging. I feel like back then men took care of their kids. Because it's not like the source is going to publish a letter or double Excel is not going to do an article about someone so ain't paying for their kids.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But meanwhile, all it takes is one girl hopping on Twitter and saying this motherfucker's living like this. Boom. The vultures come in. They pick them apart. Of course. But it's just, who is not going to point that out when you're only trying to support your kid with $1,000 a month being who you are and providing the lifestyle you provide for yourself, your family, including your other kids. You know, that's, I don't think that's pretty fair.
Starting point is 00:34:23 That's interesting. So do you know any futures baby moms? They need them reach out? Like, yeah, good girl. No, but I know how easy it would be to get in contact with one. You could form a little sewing circle, even though you're not one of the baby ones. No, but that's not my thing. I don't care to, I don't even care to, like, be for my own baby, but, like, baby father.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You do what you do, but I understand you. Right. Do you, what happened with that video, though? We never got to see that video come out, right? The music video with you and Rich. No, I don't even think it was really a music video. I honestly didn't. I just thought it was just something to.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Oh, it was. was just a little clout operation. I think so. Oh, wow, that's super interesting. Like, let's just all get together and just work on some clout. Yeah, I didn't sign a release form anyway, so. Wow. That's even more bizarre to imagine, just sort of a little clout party.
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's scary almost that you go to these lengths, these extremes to just play this game with someone just to be reposted. Right. Just to get those academics posts off, I guess. Yeah. How do you, so what's your observation about like, I mean, the weird thing about it is that this conversation has taken place of like he's about to be off house arrest. House arrest and he's going to be moving around. Like how do you feel that that's going to change things? It's been sort of bizarre watching him like lose his mind on Instagram like fucking just playing with Barbies in the tub and shit. It's like it's been very strange to watch. And like from me, my thing is I think once he's able to go outside. Because normally, I feel like once he's allowed to go outside, he's going to end up putting himself at risk for the attention. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I feel like he's doing the same thing he's always done. He just can't do it in the way that he used to go about doing it. Right. So how he used to get attention, he used to beef for everybody. He's still getting the attention, but he's doing dumb shit because he's on house arrest and he can't, like, realistically start any problems or anybody. Right. Just the same shit he's always done, really. He's just finding ways to look for attention and be reposted.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's crazy to me because it feels like he, like even though they had that alleged number one song and stuff, it just feels like the... Why you say alleged? Because it just wasn't, you know, it feels so fake to say like, oh, it's a number one song when you've never heard it played anywhere. It's just not really like a popular song. I don't think anybody's actually really excited about it. Why? Because it wasn't on radio? I mean, that's a big part of it. I just don't think that the song, as much as it did, you know, a couple hundred million views or whatever,
Starting point is 00:37:04 it just doesn't really feel to me like it's actually a popular song. Like, I just don't feel like, I feel like the clubs were open right now. You wouldn't hear it. Any of the songs that he put out. Oh, yeah, me neither. And they've done like the craziest numbers, but I don't think any of them are actually really genuinely popular. My thing is, I feel like the music kind of did get better. Not that it got better. It sounds more polished, right? But it isn't getting the same amount of hype that he used to get. It's weird because he did get, you know, and that's crazy. To see the extent to which, like, if the diehard real rap fans don't fuck with you, then your shit just is not really going to move, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:40 I don't think really, like, people pay him mind. And if they do, it's just out of bored. I'm like, just to hear what the fuck he's talking about when he's live. Right. Because that was the crazy thing is that you saw him get this, like, outrageous amount of views when he first went on Instagram live. But then, like, the second Instagram Live was with. Nikki Minaj.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah. And it was literally. They didn't even reach what a million. Right. They got, I think, 30% of the views that they got on the first one. So it's like that, and that's with Nikki Minaj, who obviously was one of the biggest fan bases in rap. That just really stood out to me as like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Like, this is like really like not going to, people are not going to stay as interesting. And it's surprising because the barbs are like, this is right or die for them. So given that there weren't as many of her. friends or anything for them to have a greater number of people in life that was just like because that's what people really know about anything when it comes to Nikki's fans that they're die hard right they support anything they're on every lives they're sending out her marriage her how many number ones she's had all of this all her numbers are because of her barbs so it's just like she couldn't get that amount of numbers that he had on his life with her fan base at all
Starting point is 00:38:59 It seems kind of crazy, right? It doesn't seem real. And that's why that song had the biggest fall off of any number one billboard hit ever. Like it fell the most the next week. It fell to like number 37, it's never happened before because normally when a song's number one, it actually like means that that song has some sort of like real popularity. But then what actually happened was that it was just the physical purchases add so much to the sales total that once you get the barbs. Wasn't it going at Ariana Grande?
Starting point is 00:39:29 He tried to get that one popping, yeah. No, because she was number one, right? That was about Guba. Guba. But it seems like he's just always arguing with someone about his numbers. Yeah, do you just feel? Like, one of the things that stood out to me the most was that he said something about, like, let my friends fuck in one of the songs. Like, you could get Chanel if you let my friends fuck.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And I'm like, who are his friends at this point is what I want to know? Because we haven't seen him kick it with any dudes. Oh, no, no, no. You have to know him personally to take no of the people that. are like miscellaneous in his lives and stuff like that those are his friends from academics whatever academics has been a real one to him that's fair yeah whatever relationship or friendship they have that's that's his friend he has um the the guy that's always dancing in the background with him that's don't is his best friend at this point i'm pretty sure he has trive drew
Starting point is 00:40:23 william ashore who is still around like he still has a good solid he still has the same security guard from before he got locked up. I mean, if you're in a position where you can still make money off of this whole operation, then you're going to do what you got to do to stay on good terms, I guess, right? I mean, but is it really worth it? I mean, I could understand how for a lot of people
Starting point is 00:40:46 that wouldn't be, but at the same time, like, you know, for a lot of them, what the fuck else do they have going on? No offense to them. No, I don't know anything about what they have going on. That's one way to see it. I guess you can put a price on people. So it's just, if they're still around, I know why they're still around.
Starting point is 00:41:03 How do you feel about academics? Why are you trying to bait me into this conversation? I got to bait you into this conversation. I want to know. I don't really care to say anything about him. Okay. He speaks on me whenever he feels like it. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:17 That's why I wanted to ask us because I feel like he, a lot of the Instagram captions will throw a little extra sauce in that. When I hear him mention you, it just seems very clear that he's trying to go hard with this narrative. I don't know. is he has some personal issues with me and he's going to say whatever he's going to say I really don't care because that's him bainting me to go back and forth for him
Starting point is 00:41:40 I already did it I don't have to I it's just he tries to be little people and talk to them in a certain manner and it's just like to me I just feel like he's a fucking punk
Starting point is 00:41:53 so it's just like I don't want to go back and forth for someone like that he can say whatever he wants wants about me. I don't care. He could talk about me until his face turns purple. It might. It might. Just kidding. All up to agonadoles. I don't know. Just the idea of his head dirted and purple. No, because the other night when we saw him wasted on Twitch, that was probably fairly close
Starting point is 00:42:17 to his head turning purple and popping off. Well, but there was one in particular where he was really shit-faced and really taking aim at Chrissy Teigen and John Legend in particular. Oh, yeah. That was a lot of got him. suspended. Yeah. How do you feel about that? Why is he talking about Chrissy Teagan and John Legend? Well, he said that she had something to say about him previously, although I'm not sure what
Starting point is 00:42:39 it was. My thing is, but so what? She's a woman, you know? She's Chrissy fucking Teigen. She talks about Trump all the time. She's like, she's known for her mouth the same way you are. Why are you attacking her? It's just, it's so corny.
Starting point is 00:42:54 He likes to keyboard warrior. Like, I don't. he likes to come at women very aggressively, aggressively in a manner that he doesn't even approach these men. Yeah, he directs whatever he has to say to them, but the type of aggression he has when he's speaking to a woman or confronting her sounds wicked in itself, a man confronting a woman.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like, it's just, he does in such an angry manner. I feel like he don't love women. It was a crazy thing to see just complex or Twitch. as well, feeling like they needed to take action. And like, I don't know. I feel like it makes sense, though, because if you're complex and, like, you know, in 2020, calling a woman a bitch is one thing, but calling a woman a bitch in an angry manner, I could definitely see how a corporation wouldn't really want to stick around for
Starting point is 00:43:48 that, too. They would have to make a statement about it, right? He really feels strongly about women in all the wrong ways. I feel. He even came in Nikki before, too. Right. And it's just like, for you not to even hesitate with Nikki Minaj alone, like her being the type of woman she is, everybody knows Nicky's a bitch. Everybody knows Nicky don't play. Everybody knows she's like an assertive woman. Like she's very strong tone, you know? And for him to just go and say whatever he wanted to say even about her, it's just because he really doesn't, he doesn't care about women.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But Nikki deserves some ether right now, right? Like, do you feel... I mean, yeah, she does a song with Duke. Yeah, but it's just like... You think people really are feeling some type of way about her doing it? I mean, I'm not so invested in her career that I really give a fuck, but I do think that if I'm like a hardcore Nicki fan, that I'm looking at that as sort of like compromising what she should stand for to a cent?
Starting point is 00:44:53 No, because her fans don't care. Some percentage of her fans don't care. You think so? I don't think they care at all. At least the diehard ones. And those are the ones, I'm sorry, but they matter a little bit more than the others. The barbs do matter for sure. But I feel like Nikki, you know, she also has like a non-barb sort of mainstream fan base and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And I feel like when she sort of shows that she like is willing to do whatever for the money, that that even if it looks bad about like her husband and shit too, which is one thing that like, like, or even just like you see YG just coming out saying he wouldn't do a song with her in the future. I feel like a lot of people probably feel that way about her. Trippy says something about her too. Trippy got caught on IG Live saying, damn, Nikki Minox fell off and it seemed like he did not want people to know that he said that. That was so fucking funny. We actually didn't talk about that as much as we probably should have on here.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Tori ended up like in a comment too, Tori Lane's with Nikki. And it was just like, I caught himself, like I caught him like the, like everybody saw he was defending himself. Supposedly he liked. a con like the comment talking about nicky and my daughter's father by accident he was like you act like
Starting point is 00:46:04 you never you guys never were just scrolling down and liked the comment i never got a call out for like in some no there's been some stuff i like though where i like didn't think about how offensive it was or like how weird it would look that i like that i got called liking petty shit all the time it's guilty pleasure yeah no there was like a post i liked that was like something about like a cop beating the shit out of like a protest or something and i just liked it because there's no jumper point post, you know, that's my account. I didn't post it, but I liked it. And then people are, why are you liking this?
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm like, because I own the account that posted. Yeah, it wouldn't have bothered them if you weren't white. So. Yeah. Being white is an occupational hazard at this point. No, it really is. You feel threatened day to day? I mean, I don't feel too bad for myself, but, you know, I could understand how a week
Starting point is 00:46:48 or so I might not be able to handle the heat, maybe. How are the riots out here, though? Pretty. They were bad, right? Pretty wild. There was maybe like one week. where they actually got like real violent They did which is like you know half a mile from where my store used to be so that was something where I was like oh gee in like every
Starting point is 00:47:05 Every store on that block I fucked up including a lot of the stores that are like black owned and shit So that was definitely a weird moment where I was like man if I owned a store there right now what the fuck would that be like It doesn't make you like nervous bringing in a kid into this world during these times a little nervous But I feel like you know in the grand history of everything that's ever taken place on on earth, you know, you could have, you know, if you had a kid anywhere 100 years ago, their life would have definitely been worse than what their life would be like being born in America in 2020. I think people tend to really like lose perspective on the fact that everything is pretty fucking good in comparison to, like as much as racism is the biggest conversation
Starting point is 00:47:47 that's really happening, I would estimate that it's probably the America is the least racist it's ever been, right? Compared to the fucking 80s. Like, I remember shit. I heard people say in the 90s, oh my God, it would never happen now. You know, I just feel like as much as people are like more focused in on the details now. It's just like racism now.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It's just like so backhanded. And see, but that's that, you know, even that's an improvement. Backhanded racism is a little better than like somebody's screaming the N word in your face. Yeah. Well, I mean, like they had a video from the 70s in New York on the New York Times and stuff that was like a whole white neighborhood kicking these black people out of the neighborhood. And it is like unthinkable how fucking angry and violent these people are and stuff. And I feel like that really like reminded me of like, oh my gosh, shit used to be so much worse.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I mean, obviously that still happens and everything. I'm not trying to like dismiss it. No, but I just feel like it's actually gotten better with a lot of white people in the community now. because at least in New York there's a lot of gentrification going on. So I feel like they're living with us in our community. They were like coexisting with each other. And they're more on board with the rights than what it was before. I don't think they, not that they were racist,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but they couldn't really care any less about it. Yeah, it's just like a lot more mainstream for people to be. Like I was seeing like an old news clip from the 90s. And it was like some news anchor talking about. like basically like you know crime and black areas and stuff and it was just like you know pull your fucking pants up get off your ass get a job take here you know there's like the way that they were just like putting the blame all on the individual is just something you would never see now because people are so much more conscious of the fact that you know people are victims of their circumstances
Starting point is 00:49:41 and you know if you're fucking family members were slaves 200 years ago or 150 years ago you you don't have the same opportunities that, you know, like, historically your family hasn't been able to build up the same amount of wealth as other people and stuff. And it's just not really fair to treat people like that. Like, everything that you have in your life is your own fault. In reality, almost nothing that, like, you don't choose where you're born. You don't choose your skin color. You don't choose how much money your parents have. You don't choose your family. No. Like, that's just shit that we can't control, though.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So, I mean, society does need to be restructured to a certain extent to, like, you know, benefit people that end up on the opposite end of the spectrum. I just feel like this is so well organized, everything that's just going on. I feel like this is all planned out. You didn't protest? No, I really wanted to, though. New York? Well, I guess there were a lot of big protests in New York, huh?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, they were protesting in New York. They were peaceful protests, too, but it's just that that is just the cops were getting out of hand with the rubber bullets, I think. Some shit's with no joke. They were like piercing skin, everything. They were just horrible. Right. They were worse than pain balls. They were like really bad.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I'd never seen anything other than a bullet do the type of damage that those rubber bullets were doing. Right. And I've seen a whole bunch of people losing eyes and getting broken ribs and all kinds of fucked up shit. Breaking your fucking orbital bone. It's just, I think they protested outside of the Barclay Center too. Right. And when they did it, it just turned into a big bra between the police. and the protesters, and it was just more so on the police's end that they just didn't want to
Starting point is 00:51:23 permit them to protest there. Definitely. Okay, so how do you feel, I'm going to be honest with you. I totally lost my train of thought about what I was going to say right there. Oh, yeah, I was going to ask. I've been interviewing a few other Brooklyn residents, namely I did a Seco Billy and Billy Addo interview and I did a Snow Billy interview. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 These people do not care for each other so much. No, they really don't. What's your thought process on that since you, I guess, were around to see? I never met Snow Billy. Okay. I've actually heard he was saying things opposite of what he said here, you know? I heard that he was running, agreeing with my baby father like, oh, this did happen, this did happen.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Okay. Then when he came here, it was just a totally different story. So I'm just like, and people called him out for it because I saw it. And they were like, oh, but you said she did do it and that you can believe it and stuff like that. He was like, yeah, but then I had a fact check. I went back into the streets or whoever he spoke to, I don't know. How deep in the streets you have to be to get the full Sarah Molina info? Is that I'm not deep in the streets.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I'm not, you would never get that info because that's just not something that is even out there or is true. So it's just like, what are you getting about me that you haven't got from me specifically? Because whatever it is is not the truth because I don't even be around those people. I don't be around whoever. I could bet you $100. I could bet my life on it that whoever he went back to the fact checked, whatever he said about me, it's just like I've never met that person, never encountered them, never had a conversation, don't even know that person.
Starting point is 00:53:15 So how true is it that you're getting, where are you getting your information from? So I don't, I don't know him and I don't even know why he's speaking on me. Do you think that Snow Billy was exaggerating his involvement with Sixthine? Because I think that's basically the point that Billy Adon and them were making is that he's. No, I personally don't know because I wasn't around them or any of, like, Billy Otto. I was probably around him a few times and Seiko a few times, you know. So it's just like, I wouldn't be able to speak on their relationship other than what Danny himself told me because I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I wasn't around to see it. So I'd never met Snowbelly and he had these opinions, thoughts on the situation. I've never even heard Danny speak on him. So I don't know how around was he. I've heard him speak about Seiko, Otto, and whoever else was around Punch, whoever you had Punch up here too, right? Shout out to punch. Yeah, shout out to punch.
Starting point is 00:54:14 He always shows love. Oh, so you fuck with punch? Okay, good. Of course, no. Punch, that's my homeboy. Like, he's really good people. He always supports me. He knows the truth.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He always defends me. And that's the one who was around all the time. Right. So. Do you feel like, you know, it just seems like kind of like an ugly visual to see him sort of like, I don't know. It feels almost kind of old to be having this conversation now. But like when the Guba visual first came out and stuff,
Starting point is 00:54:41 it was very much like, how the fuck can you be acting like this when there's all these dudes that are in jail and you put them there? It just feels kind of crazy. No, I don't, and he's still trolling about it. I don't think he feels, he doesn't feel sorry at all. And the sad thing is he's only trying to say with what one person in his head did to him, okay, fine. You think Shadi did something with me and that's your justification? Then what's the excuse for all the other guys, you know? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:11 you just put away men who have families people that care about them they actually take care of their kids you know they put themselves forefront in your name just to be loyal to you or whatever just to protect you from all the shit that you was already starting and you just ripped away their lives from them right it just seems so weird to be like making all these fucking jokes about no snitching and shit when you really like actually did the worst version of that? He doesn't care, though, because it's about him. He doesn't care about anybody else but himself. It's just
Starting point is 00:55:51 you can't be loyal to your friends. You can't be loyal to your kids. Like, what can you, can't even be loyal to yourself, you know? We were having this conversation the other day. How long you think till Jade's up out of there? How long until he gets sick of her? Oh, I don't know. I think
Starting point is 00:56:07 she'll have her problems with him, but it'll just still be paint it pretty, you know? Because you got to assume there's tension behind the scenes because, I mean, he doesn't even really put her out there like that. So it makes me feel like there's got to be something weird about that. I mean, I feel like he controls her, which is good for him. You know, I don't, I don't really care too much about their relationship. That's her headache and her mess to deal with. She doesn't even really know who he really is.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's just like such a coincidence that he caught the Fed case and he ended up wiping up the last girl that he was hanging out with before he caught the case. He needed somebody that was going to stick around and just be what he needed them to be. If he needed her to keep whatever attention still attached to his name, the tattoos or whatever. Go get this tattoo. Yeah. We're going viral. Whatever her trolling was too is just like, I guess he needed her to do all of that.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You wouldn't have got the tattoo. I don't know. You don't got any in there? I've gotten way more tattoos since the last time you've seen me, but it's just, I never. I don't even know what are people's processes, like their process of thinking doing that. Could you imagine Lena getting your face, like, smacked on her boob? Imagine me wanting to ruin her only fan's career? You'd think that would ruin it?
Starting point is 00:57:39 I mean, if somebody unsubscribe to her only fans because she had a giant tattoo of my face on her collarbone, then I would totally understand. That seems very common sense. No, but it's not just one. Yeah, and if thousands of them unsubscribed, I would totally understand that as well. God, why would I want to put her through that? You would be a selfish man. Yeah, that's so fucking insane. She wanted to get a tattoo with my name and shit.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm like, I don't, like, I just don't. Oh, no. I don't want to fuck your body. I always told her, I didn't think she should get more tattoos. Oh, she has, she has like a pretzel, right? I call it a pretzel. She calls it a heart. It's a heart.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It looks. It's like handcuffs, right? That's what it was? I mean, to me, it looks like a pretzel. I don't know. Maybe I don't think it's handcuffs. It's like a pretzel type heart. She's screaming at the TV right now.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's not a fucking pretzel. No. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to like even do that. No, yeah. You have to be a different. type of woman just to like she has a set mission in life and she don't care whether it's the mission is trayway you think so r-i-p treway i got that book at the house i got that book about the history of the real trayway i got to i got to get more into that you ain't read it
Starting point is 00:58:56 no not yet i mean i did a three-hour interview with him so i felt like i needed a little break what was he said i didn't even get to watch the whole thing i don't know what he was talking about I heard something about dog pound. The dog pound. He just talked about everything. He said things that didn't make sense. Danny was never homeless. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:18 No, he wasn't sleeping on that little mattress at the dog pound? He chose to sleep there. He had a home. Like, it just, I don't know. I felt like he made a lot of stuff up. I don't know him personally, but it's just things that I could see never happening and no didn't happen he's saying it and it's just like i don't think it went down that way i feel yeah that's what billy and them were saying and i didn't really know what to say because it's like
Starting point is 00:59:47 well i interviewed him i don't fucking i can't be fact-checking everything i don't know i mean auto and saco had a more accurate story but that's because they was around more it was just they were a part of a lot of stuff right but it's good that they checked out when they did because They could have been brought down with the shit, too. That's true. They hit the fucking lottery. Hey, I wanted to throw this out there. Rest in Peace, Pop, Smunk.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. That's crazy. It is. I just feel like it's so sad and so unfortunate. They already got, what, suspects now, right? It came out yesterday. Yeah, they just arrested like five dudes in L.A., young-ass dudes, like 19, 20-year-olds and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Some of them, I think, were juveniles. And, yeah, basically, they didn't know them because that was, like, one thing a lot of people thought. It was like, oh, you know, Are these guys going to be, you know, basically like gang rivals of whatever Pop Smoke was associated with? Turns out. They weren't. They weren't gang affiliated at all.
Starting point is 01:00:46 They apparently saw the address on Instagram, knew what the Airbnb was, figured that they would just run up in there and try to hit a lick. They run up in there with guns. Allegedly, Pop Smoke shot at them or maybe shot one of them or maybe killed one of them, depending on who you want to ask. There's a whole lot of rumors going around. But at the very least, it don't, it wasn't. gang related it was just a robbery attempt that didn't work out apparently it's sad because it's just like I don't think he should have been without security I don't think any artists should be without security especially I mean there are artists who are gang affiliated but they're even smart enough to have security too
Starting point is 01:01:24 so it's just like and if even they can have security why can't you you know you wouldn't be the only artist that's gang affiliate a gang affiliated that has a gang affiliated that has security. Yeah, I mean, like a couple, but that's the thing is that it's like the security that you're going to need that is going to have as many guns as dudes on the street have is going to be extremely expensive security. So when it's like, you know, dudes come to L.A., what do they do? They fucking click up with a couple of dudes out here who have mad guns and that's their security, you know, but I think that the situation, the way it unfolded that, you know, it's not like everybody was right there to deal with it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 My personal experience, seeing it, you have street security, and then you got your actual security. Just in case shit goes down, you can say it was actual security that are licensed and stuff like that. That's why this and that happened. But he didn't have none at all, not even street dudes with him that could have handled that. I think there were more people upstairs. You could go anywhere and link shooters just to have, like, for however long you're where you're at, you know. It's not that hard. So I would, you know what it is?
Starting point is 01:02:35 I felt like it happens. A lot of fame hits these new young artists hard, and they still forget that they're not the same now. You're reaching a different type of attention and stuff like that. People are going to know who you are, know what you have. You're not just really regular, no matter. Your life has changed in a way, so it's just like you have to move like you know that. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:58 It was just such a sad thing to see. them as they're bringing him out on the stretcher they were still working on him it brought me back to when people were just recording x in his car like that yeah that was crazy because that was actually the first thing i saw like x i opened twitter see the ex past fucking scroll down for two seconds all of a sudden i see a video of him with his throat fucking opened up and shit and i was i haven't seen that video since and i think it is obviously in really horrible taste to like post something like that um yeah they're like they're lifeless. I think TMZ posted it, a pop smoke, which was really...
Starting point is 01:03:34 I don't know. I don't know exactly, but you can see them. I don't know who posted it exactly, but I was seeing it all over them working on his chest. It's just a tragedy, too, because I feel like that was, you know, by far the biggest artist to come out of Brooklyn's sense, so-and-so, and that is just, you know, it's a tragedy because it's somebody who seemed like a really solid person. He didn't reach his full potential yet. Like, it's just, he could have did way more and should have did way more. Yeah. He should have been granted that time because he was a good artist.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It wasn't like he was just some shitty rapper from New York that just got lucky. Off of some clout or some silly drama shit. It was like actually really, really talented music. Yeah, there was no gimmick behind him. It was just the music and how he sounded, his voice. So it's just sad and unfortunate. There was another rapper that died in New York too. He had got shot.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Nick Blicky. Nick Blicky, yeah. Rest and peace in him too. Yeah. Gang shit in Brooklyn. Out of control. These motherfuckers need to chill out. And it's happening because it's been happening during the pandemic more.
Starting point is 01:04:43 So it's just like you would think that there will be less trouble, less shit going on in the street because everybody's supposed to be quarantined. And we're just seeing everything that's going on and having to adjust to what's normal with our life now. So it's just to see people still dying. and it's just getting worse, that's sad. That's a fact. Okay, so what are you working on? What do you get that takes up your time and everything besides, you know, obviously being a great mom.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Obviously, but no, I was out here actually shooting for something, so. Love and hip-hop. No, no, no, no, no. Something like that? More on a serious note. Really? Yeah. No reality TV, but TV.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Documentary-type stuff is about. More about your story? Interesting. You see when you see, but it's just like I've been doing stuff. I don't, it's just so much that I haven't really have had the finishing touches on. So it's just like I don't want to like say too much before it's actually like final. Right. But I've been very busy, very, very, very busy.
Starting point is 01:05:52 How's the fan base? How's the ceremony? Fan base holding it down. The cactus gang. I got to say, I couldn't remember what it was. too. I got to send Lenda some merch and. Oh, we both need that.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You guys having a girl, so I can say you guys some cute shit. I told you you should have been, came out with the, um, no jumper kids line. I think we're going to do it. That's something that's because like at the same time, my kid drops and everybody's talking about it, boom, you can go get the line of one zies and whatnot. You got to have the drip for the kids. Like, kid drip. No, that's going to be so far. I always said it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I felt like you and Lennon would be like dope as parents. She doesn't like really get a lot of back. for like being pregnant and still doing only fans and shit she gets backlash for it but I mean at this point like whatever we're gonna get hate no matter what we do so yeah it's what it is it's funny because we were talking about
Starting point is 01:06:38 like we watch the Ace family like every other fucking family on earth you watch it too Austin and Catherine heard you I feel like I kind of take dad lessons from him he's so goofy and silly with the kids you know that's like the mind state I got to get myself into but I kind of you got a feel for
Starting point is 01:06:55 I think I did for what type of parent you'll be because I see you with your nephews so it's just like I thought it was cute to see that side of you I just beat them up though my nephew just wrestle them throw them around and stuff I don't know like what it would be like to be a parent and not be able to just like you know give them nois and like throw them on the couch and stuff but you're gonna have a girl so right you got to be learn to be more delicate but we were talking about that she was like are you going to want to have the kids like wearing like matching Gucci office video or whatever I'm like hell no I'm like I want I'll make her wear like you guys are gonna
Starting point is 01:07:27 log and have matching outfits yeah but I was like I don't want her to like wear a bunch of stupid Gucci and shit I'm gonna be one of them lame ass parents that's making their kid wear like their band shirts of like bands they're like or what I'm gonna have my kid in like a pop smoke shirt that's fire oh my god there you go see
Starting point is 01:07:43 that needs to be done now you already tight black jeans vans put her on a skateboard even before she can actually move around on that thing that's fire get her like an old vintage metallic a shirt she can look like an urban outfit is out. You need to get the No Jumper hoodies for the kids.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Definitely. That's something that needs to be done. And the face tattoos set. So you can like put all the face tattoos on them? The Bart Simpson for your kid? Lisa. Lisa? That Lisa? That Lisa. Okay. Facts.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Okay. Hey, it was great to get to reconnect. You're like our fucking recurring guests now. It's like I don't know. Female Roving New York correspondent. Okay. I know the other podcast is you do with two other people, right? Yeah, House Phone and Camgroro, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Okay, who's the guy? House Phone. I know I've heard of Camgirl, so it's just like... House Phone, he probably love you, God. He would fall in love with you if he met you, yeah. He's a real, he's a horn dog. Okay, then he has seen a podcast, didn't he have, like, a situation? Didn't he have a girl?
Starting point is 01:08:43 Literally every episode that House Phone and I do of the No Jumper show, every Tuesday at 6 p.m. He has, like, a different, like, it'll just be like, yo, don't say anything about girls because I got a girlfriend now. And it's like the next week, it's like, no, I'm back with this girl. And then it's like, no, I'm totally. He sounds like trouble. Yeah, some of you should stay away. That's a good point, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:03 That's good. But thank you for having me. Yeah, that was a good one. All right. Appreciate you. Sarah Molina, Nojumber, the coolest podcast world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, comment, subscribe. Nojamba.com if you want to support.
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