No Jumper - Sauce Nino on How He Joined BMF, Drama with Big Meech, Deen The Great Beef & More

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Blue Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today, we tapping in with a name that's been gaining a lot of attention on the scene. We're going to talk about all these moments and much, much more. Saus Nino, this is in the building. What up, do? How you feeling, Doug? No, Mike. What's the shirt today?

That's Shalon? Yeah, this is my man's brand. Oh, okay. That's what's up. Yeah. That's like a workout shirt type material? He do workout material. Okay, nice.

You big on exercise? Yeah, a little bit. What kind of stuff? you do. What? I do a little working out. I'll do a little running. Just running for, no, no, for real, for real.

I'm boxed, for real, for real. Oh, I heard you talking about that a little bit, yeah. Yeah, I do a little boxing. So you got a mean squabble or what? Do I got a fight coming up? No, I mean, would you say that you're like pretty up there as far as, like, fistfight? Oh, for sure. Really?

For sure. What was your last squabble? The last fight I had? Yeah. Yeah. L.A. was it a squabble, but yeah, fight, sure. Yeah.

You're talking about like street fight? Yeah. Yeah, it's been a minute. If I had a street fight, it's been a minute. Is that because you just have enough self-control at this point to avoid it? Right, right. You got enough to lose so that it just feels like it ain't worth it? Right.

I feel that. I had a drunk as dude who was possibly loaded off other drugs trying to fight me and a couple of people on Hollywood Boulevard a couple months ago. How did I go? I'm just like Like what Why would I imagine hitting this guy Like it's just like loaded out of his mind

Like Like just like if I punch this guy For sure I'm getting sued You think somebody tried to sue you That guy was sued me here For sure And he would find a camera Around there

You know It's going down It's not worth it Okay Now if it's a real threat Okay But he's like loaded Like wasted

Yeah Yeah the last street fight I had Was a minute ago It's been a minute Okay. So, okay, for the people out there, tell them about where you're coming from, where you grew up and everything? So I grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio. I grew up in the neighborhood, Kyle Lincoln Heights.

Okay. Terrible neighborhood, by the way. Really? Worst neighborhood of Cincinnati. What was so bad about it? It was just gang activities? Yeah, murder and killing, drug dealing, no shit like that. So you got exposed to it from, like, a real young age?

Absolutely. What's your earliest memory of something that you feel like really might have traumatized you a little bit, looking back on it? I say somebody get murdered when I was 10. 10? Mm-hmm. What kind of scenario? Headshot. What?

Robbery. Just was the guy like in his car or something or? Nah, hell no. A guy was leaning out of his car. Oh. And somebody walked up on him and shot him. Was it the kind of situation where like people on the block tried to like minimize it, try to act like it didn't happen, try to like breeze past it or whatever?

Or was it like, did you understand what a big thing? deal it was. Yeah, it was a big deal. It was a big deal. Big deal. But I think they tried to keep it quiet for a second. I think the person who ended up doing the murder ended up getting like, I think, 10 years. Oh, shit. That's about it, though. Damn. But yeah, we've been exposed to real violence back in the day for a long time. What about your parents? What were they on? No, they was hustlers. Okay. Because you said your mom did time at one point. Yeah, my mom and my pops. Was your dad around consistently?

Nah, hell no. He was just in the streets, hustling? He went to jail for a long time. Really? Okay. Looking back on that, you think that had a real impact on you? No. Really? Mm-mm.

Why do you say that? That shit really didn't matter for real. You know, I was raised by my mom's and my grandmother, so... No, that shit didn't matter. You don't think a kid misses out on something by not having a father figure around? Yeah, hell yeah. Definitely, but shit, probably now, I mean, you know, back then, you know, you had a lot of father figures in the streets, you know what I mean?

It might be this guy who with you who just like a father to you. He ain't your dad, but you feel me? It's something like it giving you guidance and shit. You get what I'm saying? Right. So you think you tried to like form father figures from the dudes who were hustling? Nah, hell, no. Father figures too much?

Nah, it was more like unks. Yeah, I mean. Unks shit, nothing of father. Now, hell, hell. But if they're looking out for you selflessly, like if they care about your well-being beyond just like your ability to help them, that's fair to call them a father figure, right? Nah, hey.

Nah, man. It's like unc cousin, you know what I mean? Street cousin, street uncle, you know what I mean? Okay. Shit like that. Makes sense. Okay, but Cincinnati, not necessarily like the most, well-known city to the average person.

I feel like it's still a little mysterious to people. Like, how would you describe, like, what the streets of Cincinnati was like? Back then? Yeah. And now, too. Back then it was bad. Now,

it's been gentrified a little bit. I mean, you still get to certain hoods, you get what I'm saying? But for the most part, it's kind of a nice city to live here in now. Really? Mm-hmm. Does that hurt you a little bit

to see the local flare leave? No. No? You're into it? Give me all the coffee shops and vintage clothes shops. Yeah, wouldn't it be nice? I mean, new people move in. No, I'm on your side.

Because, I mean, I just, you know, as much as you, like, lose some culture as an area becomes gentified. Right. And I do think it makes sense to have, like, deliberate efforts to maintain the local culture. It's also, like, you know, a lot of these areas are places where. people were dying and terrible shit was going on a day-to-day basis. It's, like, kind of hard to ignore that. Like, a lot of times those areas getting cleaned up takes it from an area that's, like, super high concentration of murders every year to, like, a place where old people and kids

feel safe being outside. I mean, I don't know. Mm. I feel you a little bit. But are there areas you, like, remember as a child that you can't go back because of the, all the local flares gone? No, not necessarily. I mean, shit just get added.

It don't really... I mean, but some shit get taken away. You know what I mean? It's a neighborhood where it used to be a hangout spot. It was to be a restaurant, some old stores. That shit gone now. They turned that to apartment buildings, but... There's probably plenty of families that are happy

that you and your homies aren't hanging out there anymore too, right? I'm sure y'all weren't exactly keeping your noses clean. No, no, no, my neighborhood kind of smile. No, everybody know everybody. Right. So you were always attracted to, like, the hustling side of things? Yeah, that was a good kid, though. Do you did good in school?

Mm-hmm. Who first, like, kind of put you on game about, like, other ways that you can make money? Shit, music, TVs. For real? I was just influenced. but that shit I synced on the movies I watched New Jack City and thought I could do it

That's why I got the name Nino from Really? Mm-hmm But did that tell you like Oh those people who are fucked up on the block Like that's what they're doing Like I'm watching New Jack City I'm like oh now I get it

Or did you get Because you were already just like outside Yeah I was outside and just put two and two together Okay I thought maybe I could be Like I said I thought maybe I could be Nino Brown That's crazy As a kid

Yeah because like when I was a kid When I think about it I'll go downtown In the small city that I grew up in And it was like There were people that were just junkies But And then I'm listening to rap

And they're rapping about selling crack But I didn't put two and two together That like oh crack Makes these people like that It took me a little while To like put it all together Oh yeah no no no Not me

Okay So how do you become Nino at the Carter? It's just like How you become it? Just get a pack and just flip it? How do you begin this mission? Well, from the movie,

from the movie, I think he, let me think. It took over a block. No, I'm sorry, from the movie, he met a plug, got his right-hand man's, got a team, took over the block,

then somehow finesse to property manager and to give him the Carter, took over the Carter. And shit. I know that's a fictional story, but that does kind of stand out to me as like, if you want to run a drug empire, that is what you should not do. You should not take over the whole project building. Like, your network needs to, especially in this day and it is easier to said than done, but like your network should. not be so tightly concentrated in a way where it's like easy for the feds to just like surround your your building right right right and also even when I look at your BMF necklace that kind of makes me think of it the same thing is like you should not take

out billboards no matter how well businesses going um what is BMF mean a little something different how so I know there's there's multiple BMFs apparently yeah this one Ashley stands for brothers moving forward. Okay. You know, we're in the gentrying things and making things a little... So that's a modern interpretation. You no longer want to glorify blowing money fast.

No, this is... No, brothers moving forward. Yeah, blowing money fast is not really, like, what you should be encouraging for the world, I guess, if you think about it. Not at all. It's nice to be able to blow some money if you got it. But for the average person, that's really, like, not what you should be encouraging.

Like, you know, if you're a dental assistant. Right. Should really be saving your money. Yeah, I believe we're saving money all the time. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's really like what's going to get you ahead in life. Yeah.

Saving as much. Save money to save you. Invest it. Mm-hmm. Conservatively. Yeah. Most of the, you know, then you want to have, like, a percentage of your money that you can use. for a little bit more volatile, high-risk investments,

especially if they're like things that you're passionate about that you want to pursue. Right. You finished high school? Mm-hmm. Do you go to college? No, I didn't go to college. Do I think about it?

Do I think about going to college? No. Did you think about it at that time, or was it just not really even a thing? No, so a couple of my guys went to college. I just was there on the weekends, having a bob. Okay. And I go back to my normal life. Okay.

So you just go there, party. Make a little money. I would party. Just party? Yeah. No tea grizzly shit? Nah. Just party a little bit.

I mean, kick it. Go to the little cute parties. Go home. What's your party and like? You like drink, smoke, anything like that? No, I don't do neither for real, for real. So what's partying? Oh.

No, kick it with the females. You might turn it up with some females. Get it a couple number of two. What I mean? Okay. See it with the vibe beers, hookah. You know what I mean? Hit it raw.

Hit it raw is crazy. Nah, ain't nobody. Nah. There's nothing good enough to hit it raw? Nah. Damn, for real. Nah.

I feel like almost anything is good enough to hit raw. Nah. Not in today's time. See, that's like the vibe I've been getting from when I was watching your interview clips. I'm like, this is a very conservative guy. Like, he's not really trying to give away too much. I already knew, but I knew you were going to say you didn't drink and smoke. I didn't even like hear you say that, but I could just tell.

Like, this guy. He's sober as a judge. Absolutely. I don't do none of them things yet now. Yeah. Okay. But so would you say that like throughout your 20, like what part of your life is the part of your life where, and how old are you right now? I'm 28.

28. So 10 years after high school, would you say that you were like just in the streets you were hustling and whatnot for the vast majority of that? No. So I own a construction company. Okay. You know what I mean? I do renovations for apartment complexes. Uh-huh.

And we do government contracting. Really? Mm-hmm. We got a team and we go around just fixing shit up. Okay. But I saw a clip where they were asking you how you got accepted into BMF or how you became cool with BMF or whatever. Shout to my boy, Maffy, who was doing that interview. And you just let out this, like, long, drawn out.

laugh that maybe we can insert here. The intention, like, what I got from it was, listen, I was so in the streets that I can't even begin to speak on what I have seen. That's how it's okay. What you're doing right now is not so dissimilar from the laugh that I heard in that video, yeah. That's why I took from it.

I was BMF to death, man. Hey, I'm there. Boy, all right. Wait, wait. No, this is another interesting aspect of this personality. He's got like a interesting laugh thing going on. All right, come on. Are you come on.

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Oh. No? Oh, okay. God. Hell no. You is comedy. All right. Okay.

All right, let's do that. Well, okay, let's ask that question from the no-jumber, for the no-jumber audience. How did you get tapped in with BMF? Feel free to give me a sort of vague, evasive answer, I understand. It's been so long. Where do I begin? I don't know.

I just, why would you just had to be there? they say it was the craziest time ever you just had to be here i don't know you just had to be there but you're kind of young for it because if you're 28 i mean i feel like in 2016 bmph had already like been taken down what then that's when you're like 18 so like i mean i guess bmf was taken down to a certain extent but probably continued on in other ways like was mitch already gone by the time you started being around people or? Yeah, no. Yeah, no.

I think Meach have been, yeah, yeah, no. Yeah, no. Okay. Yeah, no. He was there, but he went around, but then he was locked up. But you know, I got a couple family members, you know what I mean?

Okay. Who represent brothers moving forward? Because, like, all right, so there was a clip of Big Meach on stream. They ask him if he, you're valid BMF and he gives

kind of like a weird answer where he doesn't say no but he says that there's various pathways to be in

BMF that not everybody necessarily went through him which makes sense he did like over a decade in prison so obviously

he wasn't going to necessarily be involved with like everybody who claimed it what were your thoughts when you seen that clip oh 100%

everybody probably came through somebody I mean it's just like I said in the last joint who did the start of the GDs Larry Hoover Not everybody know Larry Hoover Right I mean you got some people

Who's Larry Hoover Then you got a chain of people who then came down from them Then the chain of people who then came down from them So I mean a lot of people put people on Interesting. So there's no like BMF put on? No.

They don't take you out in the alley? No. More like a respect thing. You just had to be there. I don't know if I could remember, it's been so long ago. But when we think about BMF, we think about Atlanta,

were you hanging out around there a lot? Nah, I was somewhere. I was in Detroit, though. Okay. So I was in Detroit and Atlanta. Because you, did your family live in Detroit at a certain point? Okay. All my family live in Detroit.

Oh, okay. So you would be kind of bouncing back and forth between there and Cincinnati? What's the difference, like, culturally? What were you able to get out of each different environment? Detroit a little harsher than Cincinnati. Really? Yeah. Harsh in what way?

Just area way. Like It's just It's a Scapperer place You gotta be on your P's and Q's You gotta be on your P's and Q's in Cincinnati too though But

Detroit you gotta really be on your P's and Q's Like you don't know what the fuck can happen You get what I'm saying? You never know This nigga might be cool right here But then see he ain't cool You know what I mean I mean

I mean that's just That's where everywhere though You know I mean But in Detroit from Cincinnati Detroit is a little scaper a little harsh what's what area is more

you know are the police more of a factor because I feel like every different city has like a different vibe in terms of like how on your ass the cops are going to be um words to police patrol more

is what you're asking yeah or like what yeah probably the east side of Detroit oh okay probably to east sat that's where a lot of shit be heading from back then what I know.

It made sure it's been a minute. So I would say to East Side, though. From back then. When you first start communicating with Big Meach, like he got out of prison and you just, like, tapped in or how'd they go? Evil laugh. Why is that even? But you're like, it's like a Fed question.

It's like, I'm just asking, like, did you talk to him or whatever? I would assume he doesn't do any kind of illegal behavior anymore. I would think. No, I don't be, uh, no, I don't talk to me like that. Okay. Talk to him a few times. I don't tell Twain like that, though. Because it does, it feels like there's a little bit of friction.

Because the way he answered that question on stream was a little awkward. And then the fact, then you in the mafia interview I watched, you were saying like, me and Meach already had a situation going on and we had to talk about it off camera. And like, yeah, that could be something that's like something where there's not friction between you. But it sounded like it was probably something where there's a little something to be resolved. Do you know, I want shit? It wasn't shit for real. I think, what was it?

I think it might have been somebody else. You know what I mean? Somebody pretending to be me or something like that. And they had said some things. I think that's how it went. Right. And then they reached out to me and I'm like, no. Oh, somebody else was like fake Instagram account or something?

I don't know. I never really got down to the bottom of it. Huh. That's a real thing, though. There's examples I've seen in Trappler-Raz videos where people are like Chicago gangsters are like on Instagram live. And somebody got a fake screen name of their app and they start talking shit in the chat. And then all of a sudden the dude on live is like freaking out, threatening, screaming on their app. and it's not the Ropp.

It's just some kid. Yeah. No, it wasn't nothing like that. Like the situation was kind of small. It just was like a, somebody had said, somebody was pretending to be me. That's what it was.

Somebody was pretending to be me. That's how it was. So, okay, let's go back in time. Big Meach gets out of jail. He's doing the TV show with 50. Little Meach is on the show. It all seems like, okay, this is dope. This is going in a good direction.

Mm-hmm. and then they take a picture with Rick Ross, who is one of 50 cents top ops, someone that he clearly has no love for for many decades now. BMF show gets canceled. It's just over all of a sudden. Right.

50. The king of petty. Just whatever. All these people, all these jobs working on the show, it's done. How do you feel when you're, you saw that play out. Like was that a miscalculation on the Meach's part

by thinking that they could play both sides like that? That I don't know. I didn't really know about this situation, you know what I'm saying? I can't really speak on that, I don't know. You know, they just, you just never know. Like, was it real? I don't know. I really don't know.

Would you take a picture with 50 cent? Would I take a picture? Yeah. Given that you've got some kind of relationship with Big Meach. I mean, I ain't got a problem with 50. I mean, I don't. Right. I don't, you know what I mean?

But do you feel like you owed a Big Meach loyalty in that regard? Or his ops, your ops? I mean, at least his like high profile. Hey, you is funny. I'm just putting it together. You know, I don't. We're all in the streets here. No, I don't know.

I don't know. I should. I don't know. I don't know 50 cents. Probably never run across. Probably, I don't know. I don't know 50 cents though. He's gonna see the BMF chain.

You're gonna be like, I wanna take a flick with that guy. That's gonna piss somebody off. That's what, I mean, 50 smart like that. He's at least gonna be like, who are you? State your name and where you're from. Hey, you is comedy, right? Do you have a relationship with Lil' Mich? Do you know him?

Do I know Little Meach? Yeah. I had a couple conversations with him. I know him. Okay. Mm-hmm. I feel like they probably think I hate them because I do a podcast with Wack. And Wack has made it one of his chosen missions in life to keep insults upon Meach.

You know what though? I thought they was cool now, though. I don't know. If that's true, I don't know about it. Yeah, I thought they was cool. I think WAC 100 did an interview. I had Mitch on the phone. It was saying that,

matter of fact, I thought he did an interview with Vlad. I don't know. The person said that the other guy was putting false allegations on his name. Oh, really? If I'm not mistaken. Wow, that's interesting.

Yeah, like, do you feel like that whole snitching controversy that was being pushed there for a while? Did that do damage to the BMF brand name? Did it do damage to the name? Yeah. Mm. Do you think that that?

the streets like went for it or is that something that they're not fully supporting? Nobody's supporting it meets a snitch. I ain't nobody. You ain't going for it? That's your goofy. You gotta, for you to be a snitch, you gotta have the name got to be in the paperwork. Like it just got to be in black and white. Yeah, the theory has always seemed a little contrived to me too, whereas like, we can't prove he's telling, but it looks like this other person is telling on his behalf or whatever.

I'm like, I don't know if you could really chalk that one up. That doesn't seem like something anybody's ever going to be able to all agree on. No. Yeah, no. So what would be your message to people who try to say that you're not really from BMF? Like, do you even care to correct the record? Hell, no, I don't get fuck. That shit on me, shit.

You know what I mean? If that shit on me, you know, I definitely don't get a fuck. See, it is what it is. People don't think what they think anyway, you know what I mean? It's kind of interesting. What about when you say? Dean said that he was gonna call Big Meets to DPU for faking that you're in BMF, like was Dean, was he just tweaking when he said that?

Like, Meach corrected it, didn't he? Did he? Let's pull it up. Oh, shit. Oh, my phone there. The one that's streaming or you got to do it much? I need a phone, somebody. Let's go to Instagram.

Dean the Great Sauce Nino, I'm doing this on YouTube. Hopefully, we got some good reels that are coming up. They got the way you're not? I'm not seeing anything about Meach. Maybe I should put Meets' name in this shirt, too. Or in the search. You got a contagious laugh.

Because you really wreck, bro. But, bro, there's a lot of clips of Dean throwing shade at you, huh? We're really on that. It's kind of crazy just because, like, I, I knew Dean like six months ago, and like his gangsterness has been turned up significantly since then. Like his whole vibe has changed quite a bit. Has it? I mean, he's got a little bit more sauce now, you know?

That money will do that to you. Oh, shit. I don't know. I didn't know him. I can't find it. Maybe there's a search on Instagram or whatever, but it didn't come up on YouTube shorts. Nah, it didn't come up on yourself. All right.

I'm going to search on Instagram. Sauce. You know, and then I'll just do Meach. I don't see. I just see the clip of Meach talking about if you were just a fan or not. Let me see that phone, bro. Wait, but so you're not sauce like, like, affiliated with Sauce Walker? No.

You're a different sauce? Yeah, I'm Sauce Neano. Okay, and there's no relation. Nah, ain't no relation to me. That's one of the bros, though. Okay. Yeah, he's one of the bros. Is there ever been confusion in that regard?

Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever think about becoming a sauce factory guy? Sauce Factory? Yeah. You're talking about with TSF? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the bro brand.

Okay. You're your own man? Yeah. Yeah, that's one. the bro. He's one of the bros. What's your favorite sauce? What's my favorite sauce? Yeah.

Honey mustard. Chipotle sauce. mayonnaise. Cramer. Nah, I don't like, no. That shit. What? Ketchup.

I don't like ketchup either. Mustard, just regular old mustard. Nothing? What the f***? That's kind of insane. Shit, hot sauce is cool. Hot sauce. Yeah.

Just that, though? Yeah, that's cool. Nothing tangy? No, I don't eat out of the same. No mayonnaise, no ranch. Nah. I mean, I might eat ranch on a salad, this sign. Okay.

Yeah, that's crucial. Yeah, you're gonna need that. You're gonna need a sauce for a salad. Um, okay. Hold on. You know I was gonna find that. Okay, yeah. Hold on, what that mean?

Hold on, what me? Let me say, what that mean? What do that? What, let me play it again? But that sounds like that's him, like, questioning the validity of it. Oh, no, no, no. You want to hear it again? Hold on, hold on, hold on.

You hear that? You hear that? Oh, he said, your family. Oh, there you go. That was dope. We see you and Big Me's doing a whole stream together. I don't know. That could be cool.

I don't know. I got to get the stream all the way down, for real, for real. Are you feel like you're still pulling it together? Yeah, yeah, hell, yeah. We're still learning the logistics of it. That's the new trap for a lot of people. Yeah. I mean, I heard.

You, uh, I mean, do you feel like it's for you? Because it's like one thing with me is it just feels like draining being on that shit for three, four hours out of time. And then just like when I see people who are down, I feel like I almost do, I go too hard streaming. I talk too much. I'm like trying to always be doing something interesting. When I actually really watch people who stream for long periods of time,

a lot of it is very low effort. They're just trying to be driving, like not really talking on the camera that much. No, I like stream. You got to be, you got to have a personality for it. Yeah. See, me, I laugh a lot, play around.

Do mad shit. That's a lot for me to stream, you know what I mean? Are you single? Yeah. Is that something you would stream? Dates? Nah, yeah, no. Do you want to make that part of it?

Yeah, no That's some good content There's a lot of streamers That's kind of like what they're doing out here They're like just hanging out with chicks Mm Nah, not me Not me

Okay That'd be cool So Adrian Broner's your cousin Mm-hmm How much were you around him Growing up and everything I was around him a lot

Really? Mm-hmm Was he always A very magnetic figure From a young age Was he like always kind of the dude? Yeah. Really?

Absolutely. Because of boxing or even before boxing, did he have like a rep? No, he was always good in boxing. He can wrap his ass out too. Yeah. But he was used to do both. He was a rap, then he was a box. He could dance too.

He's a little older than you? Yeah, he's what, probably 10 years older than me? Oh, okay. So like during his whole come up and everything, were you around him? Mm-hmm. What was that like? Like, was it insane to have that much energy around him? Yeah.

Nah, I mean, he was the same person, shit. I don't know. It's the same guy. He stayed the same even as he blew up. I feel like he, like, kind of lost his shit. No, he's going to always be one way. Yeah, but, I mean, the alcohol really, like, took hold at a certain point, right? yeah no

I mean he'd be a little tern- with the aga-oile A little. I mean I feel like he's one person where throughout my whole life observing people who are alcoholics he might take the cake like he seems very powerless

to alcohol like he I hope he finds his way but it's going to take a serious intervention to get him to clean his act up because he's an alcoholic like in a way that is hard for me to even relate to. I was just like never even close to that. No, I don't think he drank as much as people think.

What? Bro, they did that like 45-day lock-in, and he went hard for like two weeks, and then he was just fucked up, the whole end of it. What was he doing? Like, was he... Seemed like he was not just drinking, if you know what I mean.

Nah, that nigga don't do no drugs, man. Staying up super late. I'm just like watching these YouTube videos. compiling the clips and shit. I mean, even when I interviewed him, it was crazy because, like, he's basically sober. It's maybe 4 p.m. or something,

5 p.m. when we're doing the interview, he's still sober. He's chill. He asks us to get him Henny. We order a bottle of Henny. Pours up the cup of Coke and Henny. It's probably like 75% Henny. A little splash of Coke. And he's just wearing a white shirt,

and he just takes it and just drinks the entire cup like it's nothing dripping all over his shirt he don't give a fuck and within 20 minutes well also he did that like again like five minutes later he just slams another huge one within 20 minutes you almost like couldn't understand what he was talking about like he went from like perfectly normal coherent talking about his life and everything to like you almost like I'm sitting there kind of but just wondering like wait what are you talking about dude like what? How long was he here for?

Was he? It was probably an hour and a half. And that was Torres an interview when he did that? I wish I had told him like, no alcohol, it's up the end. So did he walk out after he did it?

Oh, I mean, I kind of had to end it at a certain point because it just wasn't really making that much sense, yeah. But it was good, but like you just, and even when he was talking about drinking,

he was talking about like how he would stop drinking and get like cold sweats. And I'm like, oh yeah, that's serious shit. right there that's like pretty that's that's a sign right there that you're way too dependent on the shit.

Mm. You gotta go help your cousin. Nah, he don't drink as much as people think, though. You have to say that. You're like a street dude. So you're like not trying to snitch on anybody even for their drinking. Nah. I see what you're doing.

I think he don't drink as much as people think, though. Yeah. I was just waiting for the past two days. I don't know. Maybe just easing up on it a little bit. You think him and Dean are ever going to break up? They're like teasing it every week. Him and Dean will ever break up.

It feels like they break up like approximately once or twice a week and then they get back cool. And I'm the idiot who keeps believing it every time I see a clip. I'm like, wow, they're finally broken up. Yeah, no, I don't think they're ever breaking up, man. Really? I don't think so. It feels like Dean is so frustrated with his lack of professionalism,

but then at the same time he kind of knows that they need to stick it out. and I feel like Adrian hates being told what to do and hates having somebody kind of constantly trying to direct him to do shit. And like Dean seems pretty like about it when it comes to business and everything. Like he really wants to be a top streamer. He wants to be successful.

And it's got to be difficult feeling like you're kind of dragging E.B along for the ride. I think they need each other. The one don't work without the other if that makes sense. Well, yeah, because like when it comes to the top streamers, like most of them are pretty normal. Like Aidan Ross, kind of like a normal guy. He's funny. He's capable of like being goofy on stream and stuff like that.

He's kind of just a regular guy. Neon, most regular guy ever. Right. He's just like a random Indian dude who's, he's chill, but he's a regular guy. Even me, I'm kind of, I might be into some weird shit, but I kind of come off as a regular guy. You got to take the regular guy and put him with the crazy person. A, B, and D. makes sense because you you see yourself through Dean

and then you're constantly having to watch him deal with this guy who's out of his mind and constantly putting Dean under pressure he's constantly putting Dean in a state of chaos but Dean needs that to be entertaining otherwise it's kind of like what is he even doing? Yeah I mean and even like there was a clip yesterday where a lemmy from zeus was talking ab basically telling him because you know he sponsored that

whole like lock in stream or whatever like zeus logos everywhere and he basically told dean or he told ab like you got to get us together like we're not going to keep giving y'all money if you guys are not because like ab's like not even really showing up on stream that much just kind of sleeping all day lemmy's feeling like i'm putting all this money as a sponsor you guys and you're not really like coming through on your end of the deal. If you want to see fireworks is going to be if that happens and then Dean is like feeling like, oh, we lost this like huge sponsor because AB wasn't taking a serious enough. That might be a hard thing for their relationship to survive.

Yeah, I ain't see the clip though. That's crazy. I hope. We've seen like Adrian lucked in now. We've been on strange streaming this soon. So how did the thing happen when you getting kicked out of the warehouse if you're AB's cousin? Like why was Dean tripping? I have no idea.

I just was there and then I wasn't. I don't know. Isn't that like a simple conversation? It shouldn't be like, hey, I'm A.B.'s cousin? Like, I mean, I guess A.B. would have to verify that, but I was surprised it went that way. I don't know. Mm-hmm. Um, I don't know why that happened.

Mm-hmm. I mean, it's kind of weird, like, uh, there's another dude, Willie. who's an up-and-coming streamer, Willie Beeman. And he, uh... What the fuck? Hold on. Willie Beeman. What? Is that weird?

Nah. That's the name for real? Yeah. No, it ain't, bro. Why? That's the nigga. That's Jamie. Nah.

What? Is that? That's any given Sunday. That's where he got the name from? I don't know. I haven't seen it. No, okay. I never seen a heard of him, but that's...

He might have borrowed the name from a movie. Yeah. Oh, but he, he, all... Also, like, came on the podcast and had a whole story basically about Dean aggressively kicking him out of the warehouse because he showed up on a stream with a bunch of girls. Dean tripped on him, kicked him out. He was pissed. Damn. They kicked him out.

Just flat out kicked him out. Oh, yeah. Like Dean said, you get out. Basically, get the fuck out of here, yeah. No, actually, no one was like, Sauce Walker kicked him out primarily. No, I ain't think that shit either. Damn. Yeah, that's unfortunate.

A lot of people getting the boot over there. But is that like, how do you deal with that? As a man of respect who's really in these streets when you're on a stream and you got this kid just disrespect to you? I ain't really give it to fuck too much. The reason why I gave a fuck and I made videos is because I mean, you know, I was really new to the stream and where I didn't know that the stream Chatter-Rays made you into thinking of some shit.

Oh, yeah. So when, because keep in mind, you know, I was only supposed to be there for three days. I had to go back to court and shit. Okay. So I went trying to stay there that long. But, um. You had to go to court? Yeah, court.

For what? For driving. Driving? Mm-hmm. Driving recklessly? No. Did you do a donut? No.

I just had a court for driving. Wait, you were driving with them, Bose? What were you driving with? No, I caught a ticket. Oh, I got a ticket. Seat belt or something? What? But I ended up having to go to court.

And, yeah, I was only supposed to be there for three days, but I know my flight left, like, early that morning. So really I was supposed to stay there for like maybe two and a half days. But I knew I couldn't stay at the warehouse. You get what I'm saying? Why? I don't just think it would. I don't know.

To be honest, they said it went to enough room. Just too much of like a nasty dude area or what? I don't know. It just wasn't enough room. You're BMF. You got to stay in like the Ritz. Nah, we ain't got to stay in the Ritz.

Nah, but you got to stay like the Marriott. Yeah, we stay in the Marriott. Yeah, we stay in the Marriott for sure. Okay. But, yeah, like, they had already, the manager had already hit me and said I couldn't stay there. So that wasn't a problem. You know what I'm saying? So when I got there and shit, the security guard kicked me up.

Okay. He said that the upper management said I couldn't beat her at all. And you're pissed because you, like, flew out to be part of this? Yeah, type shit. And I was mad because I'm like, damn, if I'm here for two days, why the fuck would I not be able to come back to the warehouse? But I get they said it was a misunderstanding though I guess the security guard But the reason why I got mad is because

When I was on my way to the airport You know the again like I said I didn't know nothing about the stream of world at first I know that they could raise Bachel Oh so you're believing everything in the chat No the stream starts saying he was talking about my deceased BM So that's why I went up on him What? And that was just totally made up out of thin air

Yeah yeah what Just the whole shit with me and Dean. Just a misunderstanding. Wow. What was that situation? Your baby mother died? Yeah, so I was in Los Angeles. That's when I first started streaming with them.

Okay. Adrian invited me out to Los Angeles. But it happened during that while you were out there? Yeah. What the fuck? Her friend ended up driving, tried to go around a car. And a semi-came this way and smacked him head on. And how old is the baby?

No, she's pregnant. No, she was pregnant. She wasn't. Oh, I thought you already had a kid. Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. So is that, like, unbelievably difficult to deal with? Like, I could imagine that would probably make you not want to stream.

Yeah, it was at first. I was super upset. I ain't gonna lie. What the fuck? I have a crazy experience. You don't, like, uh, how would you? Did you say you grieved or dealt with that? You're kind of a stoic guy.

Yeah, you just, yeah, you crying privacy. Dude, let nobody see you cry. That was your girlfriend at the time? Mm-hmm. Damn. That's my best friend, for real, for real. How long were you together? For a minute.

A long time. Years? Long time. That was like, uh, crazy part about it was, that's why I was kind of upset, too, because I was supposed to come home. And I ended up staying up. They were Adrian.

Strain longer. Uh-huh. That's what it happened. But did you feel like A-B didn't do enough to stand on business for you with the security and shit? Man, the end of the day, shit, he's, hey, I mean, shit, he probably, you know what I mean? Probably couldn't. Probably couldn't. Ain't no telling him, shit.

He got the other shit going on, you know what? Right. Ain't no telling him what I'm paid him or said, Twainty-day-day-day-day-thing. Yeah. So what I mean? At the end of the day, it's business, not mean? Yeah. got to like stick your neck out for your homies right like i mean it's always that awkward situation

where like if you're with a bunch of people and you try to go to the club and they're like not trying to lay all your homies in and you got to make this decision of like am i supposed to just go up in here or am i supposed to just like stay solid to my friends and not go in here and i feel like that's like a similar situation where it's like a b probably could have stuck his neck out and made sure that your whole experience was cool and he apparently didn't didn't feel the need to. I don't know, man. Possibly because he's loaded.

He's annihilated drunk. He's sleeping until 6 p.m. From what I'm in hearing. No, no, you don't sleep till 6. No? Hell no. But, you know what I mean? So there's a clip about AB who was mad at you

because you brought a girl around that he used to fuck. Was that awkward? So I didn't bring her, hold up. Hold on. Did you watch the whole clip? Yeah. Well, I mean, I might not have seen the end. You never know when they're going to end it.

Who said they used to mess around? I thought that was the idea. I don't know. We could watch it if you want. Yeah, we got to watch that. Let me see it. Okay. Sauce Nino.

Adrian Bruner, girl. I wish I had this on deck. Maybe my problem is that I keep looking on shorts. No, you got to go. Instagram? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you typed in Sos, Nino, arrives in Atlanta.

Arrives in Atlanta? On Instagram? Yeah. Okay. Sauce Nino arrives. So you got off the plane. Is this a... Hey, you tripping, cut.

You tripping. This is A.B. tripping on you. You tripping, bro. That bitch don't get the hang around us, nigga. Now you said, why you keep blaming me? Nah, nigga. Nah. Why are you blaming me from shit, but?

Man, she ain't. Man. Who she with it? Oh, she was chicken? Yeah, like, but come on. Nah, no, don't, don't, don't, yeah. Keep that same energy, bitch-ha's, nitty. She's not.

She's, ain't. She's a energy, bitch-ha's, nigga. And, Kat. What the fuck is that, though? Why does you hate the girl so much? I don't know. Like, if my friend comes around with a girl, of the I already pipe is like

whatever. I don't know if they messed around or not though, I don't know. Maybe she was one of the girls that put allegations on her. I don't know, but she didn't know. Then all of a sudden his reaction is totally justified. No, I don't think. You don't seem like the type that would be

like with your cousin's old work. Yeah, no. You seem like you would be like anti that. I'm about that. I don't give a fuck. No, I don't need, nah, not me. I don't know. I don't sleep with none of the females my nass with. Really? Yeah, no.

I feel like anybody who cool with me, you've got to know that's a possibility. Hell, no, that'd be cool. Um, I mean, one of the best things in life has to be like banging your ops, girl, your ops ex. No, here, no. You wouldn't do that? No. You won't do war, do battle with your dick? Nah, hell, no.

Sword fight, metaphorically. I feel that. No, I totally get it. But also like, man, you might have to do that shit. I don't know. Nah, yeah, and I think that shit started over there. And, you know, the ops shit doing that. Oh, Chicago?

Yeah, you were aware. That shit started over there, I think. Banging your ops, your own? Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Hmm. So you ever had like a conversation with Dean to kind of like get past the weirdness of that? No.

Mm-mm. No reaching out? It feels like that should be easy if you and AB are cool like that. What's your relationship like with AB at this point? No, I just with him yesterday. No, we're cool. Okay. Yeah, I was with him yesterday.

Do you think he's like, do you want to, like, do more streams with him? Like, is that part of your plan to, like, push the streaming thing ahead? Possibly, but shit. I don't think I can. You know what I mean? Because the Dean situation currently? Yeah. Man, I still feel like AB needs to put his neck out for you more.

I don't know I know You don't want to tweak on your Famous cousin But I think you should Just get on him Just be like

Tell Dean to be cool with me Or else I don't know I mean I mean Like I say You just business At the end of the day

Yeah No There's a little brother's business partner I guess So shit How long would you say You've been Out the streets

Cleaned up your act if you will. A long time. A long time. A couple years. The exact length of time of the statute of limitations.

You've been a long time, man. Long time, I didn't do nothing bad since I was a kid. Do you feel like the streets are dead? Absolutely. Why you say that? Everybody telling on each other. Surveillance, I feel like

is the other big factor. Everybody snitching. Surveillance kind of like makes people tell on each other. each other a lot more because there's just a lot more evidence that people know is going to fuck them over so that they end up telling. Surveillance? No.

Just don't nobody want to go to jail. But like, all right, there's a shooting that took place in Long Beach that was at this, like, big burger chain openings, like Nipsey Hustle's brother that opened this restaurant. And there was a shooting. Somebody died. We've all seen the videos. We've all seen the videos of the surveillance. and everything and it's like unbelievably obvious what happened now are those dudes going to

tell on each other i mean shit probably but they're going to tell on each other largely because the surveillance video is going to be so damning that there's just like almost no point in everybody staying quiet about it you know i'm not saying that it justifies it but that's like why i would be zero percent surprise when that happens because shit ain't even go to trial you and we all seen the videos we all kind of know what happened is the people in custody for the Yeah, a bunch of them. Well, actually, I feel like they didn't get arrested. My boy Flacco made a video saying they were going to get arrested

and linking them to the people in this video. But then I don't think they actually got picked up. Some federal shit, huh? Yeah, that's another reason why people are going to jail. YouTubers? Yeah, YouTubers make videos trying to be the police. That is true. Yeah, trying to be the FBI agents putting shit together.

I mean, I forget who it was, but I was reading about how, a murder got solved the other day and it was like the cops went on YouTube, searched the name of the guy who died, found a whole YouTube video breaking down tons of evidence about how the guy died and they based their

investigation on that. And it's like obviously once they start investigating they have infinitely more access to your phone records, to your banking info, all these different things that they can get access to that is way on another level that a YouTuber wouldn't be able to have

but in this case the YouTuber 100% sparked off the investigation and he probably don't give a fuck because he's like a former gang member who don't he's not on that anymore so to him shit

he probably don't even care but it's crazy it used to feel like a rumor when people would say like oh YouTubers are getting people locked up well now there's just pretty clear cut examples no this shit Rick for sure um

okay so what's your game plan going forward is like streaming? Streaming is a that your primary thing you're not gonna like put music out or what yeah i'm gonna do a whole lot of shit for real for real okay but uh yeah i got to focus on content for real for real you think that's the path mm-hmm i'm a lick i'm a i'm lit i ain't a lie okay i do mad shit i do mad shit so they're

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