No Jumper - Sauce Walka on Doing OnlyF**s, Making Millions off Women & More

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

Sauce Walka and Sharp link up to talk about Walka's new album, the good old P days, and more! ----- ​​0:00 intro 1:40 Sauce Walka gives Sharp his flowers 5:35 Sharp asks Sauce if he thinks not having both parents is a big factor in a child’s upbringing 6:25 Sauce Walka says a job is not going to make your dreams come true 10:30 Sharp asks Sauce Walka if he thinks 100K a year is enough money to live 13:15 Sauce says every family in America should be striving for financial freedom 16:40 Sauce says if you’re not being used you are useless 18:00 Sharp says someone told him without struggle there is no progress 19:55 Sauce speaks on the Garcia Vs Haney fight and says he doesn’t respect PED’s 23:45 Sharp says if you have the game you should be giving it 27:15 Sharp asks Sauce what he thinks ST is 32:20 Sharp says you can tell Sauce is well traveled because of his game 40:15 Sauce says if you work a 9-5 you are getting P on 42:05 Sauce says he’s glad Texas is getting its shine now. He says he wants more people to move to Texas because that means more money 44:30 Sharp asks Sauce when he started TSF 50:15 Sauce says he spent like 300K on phone calls while he was in jail 52:45 Sauce says his visitations used to be wild 56:00 Sauce tells Sharp what his biggest trap during his time in the game was. He says he got 900K from a trust fund baby 58:55 Sauce says he’s been driving 1/4 million dollar cars for 10 years 1:01:50 Sauce says you should be getting these women off the streets you should. You need an exit strategy. 1:02:55 Sharp asks Sauce about his OF 1:10:00 Sauce says he is a god 1:11:20 Sauce says P’s are going out of business because of clubs and OF 1:14:57 Sharp speaks on how he feels about p___/OF. He says he’s been thinking about putting something out. 1:17:55 Sauce says you know you’re meant to be in the game by the fondness women have for you. 1:19:30 Sauce says he never had a b*tch that he wanted to keep. 1:22:10 Pimpin Ken spoke about Sauce OF and says he’s the best to ever get away with it. 1:28:10 Sharp asks how Sauce’s game felt about him doing OF. 1:29:09 Sauce says you should evolve with the game and take it to the internet. 1:32:00 Sauce asks who else is out here competing with the greatest trap rappers in the world. 1:35:10 Sauce speaks on having no platinum records, says he’s platinum off the b 1:37:35 Sauce said the members started looking at him different when he became a P 1:41:05 Sauce speaks on why he had to walk away from the game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I think this one has been long. It's been, man, people have been waiting long enough for this one. The sauce, the boss, and everything in between around this. As long as it's green. We got sauce fucker in the building today, man.

How you feel it, oh, oi, oi, y. Y, y. Y, y. Y, y. Y, y. How you feel it's the kid that did, not the kid that did. And the reason why the sorcery was written, you know what I'm talking about? Really splashing high fashion and masking and asking for the catch from here to Alaska to the pastor to make the bread come faster.

You know what I like that, man. Hey, I like that, man. You know, see, what people, they don't understand that right there. That's isism. That's called ism, man. I call the jism. Yeah, the lingo, like a lot of people don't understand it, man. That's a lingo that we've been using for years.

So that's why I know. It's a foreign language. It's a foreign code. It is. A certain elite gentlemen are able to speak and understand or the people that are of the game, game and the players that use the game. A lot of people, a lot of people say you're talking crazy. Like, what did you just say?

You just said a whole lot. A whole lot. They don't even know, bro. They don't even know. If the words too fast, you might think too slow. Man, come on, man. There's too many slow people already. I can't join the bandwagon.

That's what I can't join the badwagon. There's too many people going that way already. There's traffic jam going that way, church. You know, I think that's the blessing. and the life choice that we was given to be leaders, you know what I'm saying? It's just a leader thing. So I look at it. How you feeling, man?

I'm spilling, man. How you spilling? I've been, man, just moving, grooving, trying to have my way. And going to have my way. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? There's no other way. I like what you got going on on this platform, you know what I'm saying,

what you've been able to achieve, you know what I'm saying, the way you've able to have a reach to the world and, you know, represent something that's very fun to my heart and that's the game, you know what but also being able to show that, you know, a game is more than just where people perceive it to be. And it's a lot of knowledge. It's a lot of health and wealth from the mental perspective of an alpha male just in life that comes from people of our cloth. So, you know, it's good to just have somewhere that's a platform with people of like minds like myself. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. I'm going to be real with you saw. So maybe here, grab a mic for me. Yeah. I'm going to be real with you like. It's definitely hard to be here. humble sometimes working around you know the square and it's not and that's no disrespect to nobody because everybody human at the end of the day right so

that ain't even no but no disrespect or no taint towards them but I know like they kind of judge like you know I'm saying you can feel it like you know they know what you do where you come from they automatically want to look at you as the sleeves ball and it's like do you know if I didn't tell you anything that I ever did and you just met me for who I was you love yeah you love me anything I was one of the greatest gentleman that you ever met. I swear. And you know, it's wild that, you know, people just have this black eye on the game and just

feel that, you know, people that of the game or just these monsters or these creatures and actuality, these are loving men, these are smart people, these are geniuses, these are family, fathers, and all that shit. You got to understand that regardless of, if dudes play the part of the game or not, the game going to do what the game going to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's just, that's one of the earliest ways of life, hustles of life.

Like, you know what I'm saying? That's one of the first things to be so on earth. It's ecstasy, pleasure, joy, you know what I'm saying, fun. Do people forget that? I get it ruins some happy homes sometimes. No, absolutely. I understand that. You know what I'm saying?

But to me, I just look at it wild and people praise, you know, people, you know, the murderers, the robbers, the killers, the drug dealers, you know what? Jeffrey Dahmer. You got celebrity chicks talking about, man, that's their dream date. That's wild. to me versus to somebody who's trying to build you and uplift you and give you a better perspective or a better strategy about the way you carry yourself as a young lady and the way you decide to create wealth from yourself.

I got in the game to make it better. I'm sure you did too. I got in the game to make a better way, man. People fail to realize like doing what we did, it wasn't a bill you couldn't pay for overnight. It wasn't some debt you couldn't get out of overnight. if the bitch went pop the right trap. You know what I'm saying? Like, it really was life saving for a lot of people, bro.

Like, I don't got the biggest education or went to college. And I'm not knocking nobody that ever did. But please don't knock people that had to figure out another way. You know what I'm saying? Last time I'm out of my church, pussy never killed nobody. And not, yeah, pussy is what life come from if you want to really get to it. You know what I'm saying? Outside of, you know what I'm saying?

Talk about it. The man fertilizing, you know, it's harbitered, it's farmed, it's farmed within the womb. So, I mean, life starts at the room, so why wouldn't the hustle start at the womb? But, I mean, you know, again, me coming from the streets, like coming from the poverty, coming from, you know, the deep, deep south in Texas, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you look at your life, when you force into, I don't have a way to pay for my food, I don't have a way to, you know, create generational will for myself or how are we going to keep the lights on, My parents is broken home, broken parenting and not together.

One parent is a drug addict. You think that plays a big factor. You know what I'm saying? But not both parents being in the house? Huh? You think, I just ask you, I don't mean to interrupt you. Do you feel like, you know, people not having both parents in the house is a big factor? For living for living for choosing, for having to be your only option to find some type of success or

to create some type of money to take care of yourself in the beginning stages for people that's from the streets, then yeah, it's your upbringing. It's the fact that there's no finances there, there's no opportunities there. The jobs are insufficient paying jobs compared to whatever the economy is in that city or that state to where your parents are not making enough money to give you the opportunities to where you're not getting mischievous until what's going to be. on in the streets to try to figure out how you're going to make success. Like once people start realizing they're like a job, it's not going to make your dreams

come true, then that's- Yeah, man. For real, they need people to hear this. You got different type of people. You got people who feel like, okay, I'm willing to settle for whatever. Then you have people that feel like I'm not going to just sit here on the couch and watch my kids, not be able to go to Disneyland or watch my mom. not be able to pay for her bills or her medicine or get the cars that she might need, family,

father, whoever that you love in your life. When you really from the struggle, it's not even, like it's not about the street shit. First is about being from the struggle, like not having things, being less fortunate. When you're less fortunate and college is not, you don't, the average person that you meet that you grow up with did not become a million after going to college. The average person that you meet and growing up in our surroundings did not become a millionaire from working at a 9 to 5 job where they scaled their way up from being an employee to a manager and then a product manager and on so forth to CEO.

Most people start at jobs is barely paying a minimum wage, 10, 15, $20. If you're making $100,000 a year, that's still not enough sufficient money to really do, that's enough to just barely flow by. And then you have to also equate how many kids are in the household, depending on how many parents in the household. If it's a single parent home and both parents are not there bringing an equal amount of, even not equal, just an equal effort to bring money into the home. But you have three kids, there are four kids.

Now the Syria is getting shorter. The lights are staying on longer. The school clothes and the vacations and trips are getting less. That's present because it's not enough money to spread around for everybody. So when you come from those type of things and those are your options in life to like, okay, how am I going to make it? You try a job, you try school, you try these other things. And then what you see every day in front of you, the people that are having success in the ghetto is the people that's taking the risk, the people that's taking the chances, the people that's hustling. Rather, they're coming up with a small business.

They're selling food. They're selling stuff that they stole. They're selling drugs. They're selling whatever. of conversation, knowledge, game, entertainment, whatever, you know, women setting themselves, whatever is being sold in the streets. You know what I'm saying? Women selling themselves, wait before anybody get it had anything to do with that,

that's something they do on their own. Yes. So with that being said, being coming from where I'm from in Houston, Texas is like, you see a lot of D-boys, you see a lot of robbers, you see, you know, you grow up. up around there, but the end game is usually the same. You know, everybody either goes to jail, they end up being dead, they end up getting these big, these huge cases, or you know what I'm saying, and you never leave the game as a, not never, but for the most part, people don't leave a multi, multi, multi, multi million

or during the time while they're having the money, they can't really enjoy the money because they have to hide it, they have to, you know, hide the, how much money, how much money they actually have because they can't put it in the bank account. They can't buy too, too many cars because if you raise too much eyes on yourself, then you're getting the wrong attention by the wrong people. You know what I'm saying? So the game was just something that just made sense to me because I always felt like when you're a young man, you're handsome, you got a lot going for yourself, you got a lot of charisma, you got a lot of potential. We're thinking before you actually like, you know, find your success and stuff like that, when

You just have the sparking you, the fire in your chest. You know what I mean? You're trying to figure things out. I have to say this. And back to what you were saying about, like, $100,000 isn't enough. Right. You don't think $100,000 is enough for, like, an average family household. You don't think they can do some good living out of it.

You feel like it would be still barely getting by. I believe, I mean, I believe 100, again, it depends on. It depends on the person. A person, a person, if you find joy and happiness, and living in a wooden cabin hut in the middle of Nebraska. And you drive your pickup truck and y'all- It's nice around Nebraska this time of year.

I'm just, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's to what do you feel your happiness is. You know, for some people, their happiness is to, you know, be able to just get by or they don't have the same expectations or desires that other people have, or they may, come from having money their whole life and come from never feeling the inconveniences or the struggles of not being able to drive what you want to drive to simply go to Starbucks. They've been going to Starbucks their whole life, so it doesn't mean nothing to them for

a period of time. You may be right because, you know what I mean? Yeah, because when you really look at it, right, it's like, it's not about how much money you're making, it's about how much money you're saving. Right. So I guess even if a is getting. a hundred thousand a year household we got to think about how much is going back into the household right and with bills more money comes more problems when you accumulate more money you

do you ever notice that you find yourself having more bills like damn all my bills yeah i could be making 60 70 a month just on a normal like just on like just a regular job just some cool shit or rapping getting your incentives getting your distros everything nigger just touching a 70 piece but a nigga got 45 000 50 000 worth of bills yeah that's i mean that's what a work cars, jewelry need to be touched up, you know what I'm saying? They want to go trade it, hey, may go bust this down, go make something even bigger, you know I'm saying? They got to put a 10, 15 piece with that.

You know how this shit goes. No, absolutely. That's how this shit go on the high scale. But at the end of the day, again, like I said, this shit is really about if you have dreams and you have aspirations to do great things, great things usually take a hard amount of work and then they require some type of investment. whether that's a large investment or small investment that depends on the type of business and whatever type of dream that you have So sitting on money is not always smart

Money not moving is money not growing So want to see where you at would it? You know what I like this conversation You know what I always think that we was dummies So you pretty much saying like you know people need to learn how to manage their money better Whoever it is like learn how to be a better money manager No, I feel that every person in America should strive for financial freedom. I think that no family in the world should be happy as a generation.

Just getting by. Just getting by. I believe it's too much opportunity. It's too much life to be lived. And it's so, especially with the internet, it's just so much revenue flowing around us. And there's so many different new ideas and new components that could be added to the world that people add to the world. that people add to the world every day, that could be your claim to fortune.

But sauce, not everybody got the sauce, not everybody's got the charisma. There is a lot of money being made online. You're absolutely crap. Yeah. I'm just saying, you know what I mean? When I say online, I mean you got to be a personality.

I'm saying even if you came with the lighter that can roll up your blunt for you, you can press a button and you roll up your blunt. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying like just creating something new that can be sold to the world, whatever it is. Right.

It doesn't necessarily have to be you being an entertainer or you being the personality, just creating every business that you see in the world is owned by somebody. I'm a person that look at the world different. I don't look at this microphone or look at this nightstand, like that's just a nightstand from two to do. Now, whoever there's name is that company that they made the stand that's holding their camera, whoever's a company that put these bricks on the wall, that is owned by a human being. There's a person in this world that owns every single hour.

every single object up in here, they created that as a company. It's a group of people, a chairman board, or a sole proprietor owner. They created all of these things that we use every day and they're making millions and millions of dollars out there. And their families are able to make millions out there and create other things and other shit. So, like, why would I not want to be a part of that?

That's just how I feel. So you say when you come in, you want to meet the owners. Like, say, for instance, when you step into, I don't care if it's a restaurant, I don't care if it's a store. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to know who it is, hey, how you make this shit work. Right, absolutely.

That's just how my brain function. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck the free shit. Hey, I just show me how to do it. I get mine. Yeah, and then sometimes, and sometimes you got to understand, too, you get a lot more free things. When people see that you're seeking knowledge. So it becomes not about the money anymore because they say you're a person of like mine.

Like, okay, you think how I think or I could probably, even if I may be more successful to you, than you are right now, you have the hunger. to seek success or to seek knowledge or you might be into different areas that I may be weak in and you may be stronger in those areas and you could teach me something that I don't know about that I can use with my resources

or my money, my platform, my liquid cash, whatever it may be that I have that you don't have. Yeah. And then we can either put that together or we can exchange information that make us both better players. What happened to that? What happened to that?

Everything that you just explained right now, right, of just coming to get like, look, church, you might have some resources. That's why I feel like that's why I came here like to do this interview. Like just, it's a whole like just, just to speak on like life is about evolution, bro. Like regardless of however you want to look at this shit, the world is going to evolve. And if you don't evolve with the world, then you're going to become obsolete. And to become obsolete is to become useless.

If you're not able, like people don't want to be used. Everybody is so afraid of being used. Oh, you used me. You did this to me. You say it's okay, use me. If you're not being used, then you are useless. You're telling me that you want to be a useless soul on earth. You don't want to add any, rather even if you're just a person in your family that keeps your family motivated,

you keep your family together, you make sure everybody is on their schedule, and you are just a regular nine to five working person. I'm not saying that those people are bad people of the world. We don't need those people. And sometimes that might be a stage for you. having a 9 to 5 or getting a regular job or, you know, going to college or going through those things, that may be the stages that you need to go through on your journey to find your greatness, to find yourself, to find your niche, to find your talent, to find, you know,

what are you good at as a person with your social skills or whatever it is. But to just feel that I'm just going to allow things to be the way that they are because that's the cars that was dealt to me. That's, that's, that's, that's, you're just going to lay that. That's futile. Are you going to lay down? I feel that. And you know, I was talking, you know, Benjamin Crump, right?

Yeah, Benjamin Crumbr of, yeah. I was talking to him the other day, and he had brought up, like, we were talking about struggle. And he was like, you have to understand, young blood. He said, without struggle, there's no progress. He said, you have to understand with struggle. And it was just a reminder because I knew it, but it feels good to hear somebody that's still moving that agenda. You know what I'm saying? He was like, without struggle, church, he says there is no progress.

Right. There is no tomorrow for anything if you're not struggling. At least you know you're going to have progress through that. If you just hit the top already and you have everything, is that a life really worth living? I like the journey. What is joy without pain? What is joy without the journey?

You know what I'm saying? Real shit. That's like that's the difference. That's the difference from a man's perspective, not from a woman's perspective, but from a man's perspective. Of course. That's the difference from a man who really goes to the gym earns his muscle, earns his strength,

earns his relationships with everybody in the world who respects him for the creed that he lives by the discipline that he shows, the tenacity that he shows to make himself a healthy person and be successful. And you see this nigga over here, go get a BBL, and he's trying to look... Do my Batman Cabo?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. I don't know. I ain't speaking. No, no, no. I saw somebody do that. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I mean, the man shows.

I ain't doing none of that. As a, as a, as a mind, I f*** being careful being careful as a mind. I fucked with him too. I didn't know where that was. I'm like, I'm not, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying it like that. I'm saying there. You could fuck the people, you could say steroids.

Fuck and say that. Like, whatever. Hey, I'm not knocking him. The niggas proud of it. If that's what you want to do. Yeah, yeah, that's him. Who am I to sit there and knocking you? I respect.

As long as long as you ain't doing no rainbow stuff, like that's why my line get drawn is like with the rainbow. Like, don't, I ain't take care of his body. You know what I'm saying? You got money doing it. At the end of the day, it's a different type of respect. Just peer, like when you earn the muscles, when you earn, you know, your strength, you feel me?

Like, my father's an athlete, so I look at that shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Even just peer, just like in sports, like the Devahaney and Ryan Garcia fight, I'm not a person that respect user performance enhancement drugs. I don't respect it. You know what I respect. I was talking to BH about that the other day. Yeah, that's cheating.

B.H. Everybody's trying to down, everybody trying to downplay that shit. And I think Ryan Garcia is a great fighter, like a super great fighter. But at the end of the day, like, this is a combat sport. You're playing with your people lives. You're playing, you know what I'm saying? You know, when I'm talking to Bill, Amy, he even, he had nothing bad to say about Ryan Garcia. I don't know.

I'm not. No, you're right, no what I'm saying? As in giving him his flowers and saying like he's a good fighter. This is all pre the pool, the bullshit he pulled. And like, before they found out that something was in his system. So, like, everybody always, nobody's ever took anything from Ryan's shit. We can't take nothing from him now other than the big. The win is the win, but the cheating is just, I just don't respect the cheating.

They might as well fought in the street, is what you say. They might as well just got in the backyard real quick and just got them up. Yeah, for business, if we're going to do our out of that, like, we might as well just make it a little jump fight. You get your three, you get your three best people, my three best people, if we're going to do all that. Yeah, that's going to do it. Yeah, that's just how I feel. Cheating, and we're about start calling shit in.

It's, yeah, it's millions and millions of dollars on the line. Like, I don't know, but, like, you know, people just look at it. I agree. I agree. I agree. Yeah. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying?

Like, then another thing, too, you got the whole weight thing. Like, it's a weight class is, like, I'm not talking about bro coming in three pounds over, like, I don't care about that shit. I'm just speaking on the aspect of if weight classes matter in boxing, like, you're not going to put a cruiser weight up in there with a feather weight. You're not going to put a heavy weight up in there with a middle weight, you know what saying? You're not going to do that.

Okay, and that's somewhat of the equivalent of what performance enhancement does to a fighter. gives you a high level. I understand. I ain't getting into all the percentages and all that, like what they all saying of how much was in, whatever. I'm just saying just in life in general. That's why performance enhancement drugs

is not supposed to be in any athlete. Boxing, period. Like, that ruins your legacy. I thought that's what all sports used to be about. When I was a fan of sports growing up, like, it's like, okay, let's look at it from this analogy right here. It's a lot of people in this world that consider themselves great gamers.

in the sports world. I know y'all consider yourself a great 2K player. You consider yourself a great Madden player and a lot of y'all gamble on these games and will put your life and soul that you one of the best... I saw some bad shit happen over games. Okay, then, so we know people take games serious and games like people of money,

so let's speak it from this perspective. If you're gambling or if you're just playing a seriously competitive game on Madden, are you going to play Madden versus somebody and not have it on All Madden mode? No, you're going to turn it on All Madden mode first, right? because you want the difficult to be correct for all the players that played the way supposed to go in real man.

So you say you played it true. Right. You know what I'm saying? You played the true art of the game. It's All Madden. Exactly. We're playing All Madden. That's the first level.

The second thing you're not going to do is play without fatigue on. You're not going to play Madden or 2K on either All-Star level or on All-Man level and we're playing a serious competitive game but we're going to turn the fatigue off. That's cheating.

You let there be money on the table. How I'm going to play? how I'm going to play against you for $20,000, $10,000, $500, and your player never gets tired. You got James Harden, instead of hitting a step back 40 times, he never got tired, y'all never had to call time out. You never had to sub-in. No, no, no, they're just coming since.

And we living in the world right now, well, since it's not coming. No, it's not. So, you know, it's just like, I feel like certain people, like, you know, such as myself or other people that get on these platforms, they have the knowledge and had the audience, like, they don't say it enough. You gotta say something. But they don't say it enough.

I think it goes like, you see, that's the problem. So it's like everybody is sit down and do interviews or sit down with somebody and talk 45 minutes about some bullshit. That won't help nobody. Right. Won't get nobody to not even one step to the next level. You know what I'm saying? It just be a bunch of bullshit. To me, I feel like that's selfish.

If you got it, give it. Right. If you got the game for somebody to step it up, man, give it to them. Man, give it to them. That's the way to keep it. We need a strong, we need a strong village around us. That's the reason, that's the reason why, you know what I'm saying, I love the game. I love, you know what I chose because at the end of the day, being a player and being a young man that strive to accomplish great things, women are going to be in your life regardless.

You know what I'm saying? And you could either choose to be. It's what you do with them. It's what you do with them. You could be a sucker or you can be the trophy. It's either or. And I appreciate the fact that I was able to learn so much and see so many other people that shows different routes and different ways of doing things.

Yeah. And not to, not about to, because we never glorify another man's failure, especially men of color like that I, I feel like you went through the same shit that I went through. For sure. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, we all make our decisions in life and the decisions that we make are the leading factors of the outcomes of our lifestyle. So when I seen a lot of my friends, you know what I'm saying, like, lose a lot of, you

know what I'm saying, hustling and going on the mission to go rob and end up getting shot, the robbery go wrong, end up catching a bunch of time, niggotail on you. It's all the shit I've seen a lot of my friends going through. It just, it never made sense to me. It's fucked up when we got to sit there and say even as street niggas, is it worth it? Is it worth it? It's like it's fucked up, right? Then you got to think about it from the hudson side too, like, man, I've seen so many niggas

spend so much money to get the smallest profit back and just risked their whole life to ride around with the shit in the car. You feel me? Never understood that. Nigger ride around with all the shit. Why is that? I mean, I don't knock it though. I don't knock it up.

I don't knock it. You're trying to get it all. We all trying to get it out. You're trying to get it off. As fast as you got it. Hey, man, I can ride around with four beautiful girls. Wait a fucking. I can ride around with four books.

Talk about it. Say it again, truth. That's all I'm saying. I can ride around with four beautiful girls that enjoy life. We're going to the beach, and we were going to the beach, and we were going to go to chemo and do some gleam. You know what I'm saying? You can't ride around with four white things wrapped up in plastic.

You know what I'm saying? It's a difference between the two. but as a man as I was saying earlier we're all going to deal with beautiful women though as if women

can speak on their whereabouts the bricks can't speak for themselves the books can't speak for themselves these words and why it's in your car right now

those books are inanimate object brother you know what I'm saying and you've been spent all of this money to make a couple dollars on top of it

and then you got to go spend all of their money again you know in the game I chose I make one or two initial investments and now I have a a reoccurring machine.

I have a reoccurring currency. Yeah. What do you think about, I got to ask you, what do you think about the word sex trafficking? What does that mean to you when you hear it? And how do you cipher the word? What does it mean to you when you hear it?

What's the definition to you? Sex trafficking. To me, what I believe sex trafficking is is when men or people voicefully take women or just a human being. A human being kid.

A child or a child a woman. Right. Anything of that nature, you forcefully take them to somewhere that they did not want to be against their will

and you make them or you persuade or make them to do stuff like that and I think those are horrible people. I don't know. I feel like we should clear that other.

Yeah, because yeah, that's not the church. That's not the game. That's not a P. That's not a life coach. That's not none of those things. That's not none of that. Those are scums, criminals, scummer, or whatever y'all call them.

Those are the sleeves balls. Those are the sleeves balls. Those are the sleeves balls. They make it. And it's a lot of people that are those things that wear suits and ties. They don't ever want to talk about that. I'm just saying, though, listen, they're from Germany, they're from Russia, and they from all these other places.

and they're the ones that they're coming with the whatever they're weird shit I'd be seeing this on YouTube I'd be scared of trying to protect my kids and my family from these type of folks

that come with the paper with the spray stuff on it or something and then they put it on their face and then they people disappear yeah that's what in my mind what a sex trafficker is

or just like just in the streets period like a nigger don't respect a snitch I have no respect in my heart or soul for a person who tells on another individual for doing something that you all both agree.

You're all agreed upon the group on. I'm a firm believer in that myself. Okay. So just like we had it in the game, I don't respect people who touch, deal, associated to do anything with a child. That's not the game. That's not nothing.

You trash, you scum, you, you, you, you, you, that's not even, what the f***? Like, and this is just my logic. It even coming from the game. Like, what do you really gain out of a child? Like, what can you get? You can't have, I like, I like, I like, I like logical conversation, stimulating conversation.

Yeah, that shit is weird. That shit is weird. Like, I'm going to be talking to a kid. I have no interest in the kid to be around the kid. It don't make no sense to me, dog. I don't even like nothing with teen in it. I never even like like 18, 19 year old. Right.

And me too. Bitch, you can't even go have a drink with me. I need. I can't even go sit down with you in a comfortable environment. Sit down and have a cocktail with you and chop it up. with you as two adults get grown like I just I never played with it bro that was all in no way shape of phone I start to look at how these niggas and like a lot of these people is out calling predators like how a lot of these predators get up on some of these chicks it's because they know they

don't want much right that's what I was going that's what I was going to say you know what a chick on her cell phone paid her hair done her nails done and keep her with a room and you got a thing too like you got a thing too like a lot of because they get in this shit again they'd be so caught up and trying to keep up and make themselves look a certain type of way for another group of niggas that they think is the church or is the church or this pop and they want to fit in, you want to fit in, you want to, you know how they say, well, when you got one, you close to being done and a lot of people are not prepared to go through that, that period of time where you might not have no game.

Church man, we don't break, we break niggas too and let me tell you the format. That's a whole different, that you're talking a whole different level of this and I ain't knowing if everybody enlightened on this level. That's a whole different level of the video game. Yeah, church, like if you really look at it, shit, niggas always want to be down, you can get broke on too, nigger keep on and keep up with it. Shit, I don't watch niggas go to players balls,

church come out with all, man, big old bag, little hefty, little 50, 60 on him. Nigger leave with nothing. You know what I'm saying? Because he'd want to just be around a group. You want to fit in. So you're trying to show everybody that you're doing something. And I'm gonna tell you, church,

you get you a stift too, you're just like the bitch. And that's the thing about me. Me, church, like, my game is, like, it's world-renowned. Like, you feel, me? Like, way before this internet, like, I'm really concrete, the greatest peas, know me, like, you know what I'm saying? They're really been doing stumping through this shit from, you know what I'm saying? The gorgeous George to me, RIP, my brother, CCU.

Gorgeous George, I never met him. Yeah, gorgeous George from Houston, Houston, Texas, gorgeous George. He also used to go by, uh, uh, what was the, Bunny Honey's, um, Major, Major, Major the P used to go by magic. Yeah, no, I never got the big, bro. Like, you know, my bottom is always gorgeous, right. Big game. Gorgeous, Dre always, man.

You know, you know a gorgeous, right? Yeah, gorgeous. Like gorgeous George. I believe you, Church, I know you well seasoned. And you know, I was gonna say earlier. So I don't my nigga Paradise too, man. Free my nigga Paradise to P, man. Your, yeah, man, free that man, ASAP.

But I look at it like this, like your game, church, is not from just your backyard. The way that you articulate yourself is coming being from being a well, being a well-traveled man. No, no, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could tell, you got a little bit of game from everywhere. You could tell you,

I tell you down in Memphis one time. Man, I've done. I'm talking about, two months. Got a little game up over here, got something about this situation, hitting Boston. Don't know how the fucking landed over there,

but we was there, nigga, we're there for three weeks. You know what I'm saying? We're right there with all the people. Like you, when you're well-traveled, your game grows. And I want the viewer to know that throughout me and your conversation

in this interview, like, this is how the game grows. It's sitting here, man, and talk about your travels and where you're trying to go next. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, too. That's the beautiful thing about the game itself. Like, once you start to get your legs moving and you, you know what I'm saying, you really got your 10 toes down in this shit. You got your 10 hands down in the concrete.

You got the 10 fingers down in the concrete. You really putting this shit up out of it. It's going to force you to travel. It's going to force you to go because you're going to want to follow your game. You want to make sure that you got to be there to make sure everything right from a mental perspective or just you might run into some brand new situation that you would have never met in your backyard. And then when you get around other church,

you get around other congregation, you get around different campaigns, you see how they pop it, they're seeing how you popping. They're seeing how you pop it. Motherfucker might tighten you up right here. Hey, Pee, I feel like you're doing this right here, like this here, you might want to tighten you or...

Watch CMO. Nigger, hit a nigga Bay Stacks, hopping the Phantom right back to the city, stop by KFC, get some chicken on the way, man, niggas be mad. because everybody want to be down and they don't care what they got to give to do so just be yourself church and see where that gets you

you say everybody want to be down with the congregation everybody want to be down with the plan but all you got to do is just follow but you know what I'm saying too like I'm saying like when you're really traveling and going around you either going to be serving somebody or somebody going to be serving you who's even doing that anymore

no I'm saying no I'm saying no I like that no I like what you're saying I'm thinking we're speaking on from the night. You are. No, you are, but that's why I'm saying it towards like, because to them that's a dead language. Okay, so. Okay, so instead of talking, it's like Latin.

Okay, then, so instead of talking from a pig land perspective, instead of talking from that perspective, that's why I would say, the game is evolved, the world is evolved, like that I'm a compliment to you, don't you, you actually speaking, this is a dead language to them, they don't understand. No, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. This is the old Swahili, you know what I'm saying? They don't get it. I'm going too down deep in my bad.

You're going the right way. No, keep going. Yeah, yeah. They need this. Keep going. Yeah. Don't stop, church. You're on the right page.

I don't open your mind. I just want motherfuckers, you know, it's just, you know. It's a right and the wrong way to do everything, you know what's saying? This is true. But why is it that, you know, it seems like doing wrong always feels good more to people for some reason. Because people would do more wrong than right. It's like, you, and I said this the other night, I was on my live, I'm like, church, Like, I can look myself in the mirror.

I can tell a lie to everybody in this room, but I still got to go look myself in the mirror. And even if I don't say that out loud, I'm thinking it when I look at myself knowing that I'm lying. Yeah, exactly. Crazy. Like, that's in it. Well, you hold yourself accountable like that too fast.

Where to be alive? To be looking at the mirror and know that you can lie to everybody in this room. Can't lie to yourself. Can't lie to yourself. That's a 100% truth. And that's the thing about this shit that made the most sense for me over everything. It's like, I'm not doing it.

this shit for no acceptance of no nigger. I'm not even doing this shit for the accepting of the bitch. I'm the one. I'm the God. I'm the king in my universe that I'm creating. And I chose to not be a square because I understand I am a circle. So once you make that

understanding which I said that, okay, I'm not no square. I'm a circle. And what's the circle surround? The world. That's life. Yeah. That's life. That's the world you live in. That's why I said. You create your universe. That's the circles of where you live in. And when When you set those standards for yourself as a king, as a leader, you set those standards for yourself, you're going to fall short trying to live up to the expectations of somebody else

if you already pass that level of the video game that they still playing. Because, okay, you play this game and you use this button combination. I played the game, and I used to use that button combination. That's why I met you at, and we used to compete on that level. But somewhere in this schematic, I decided to, I'm going to try these other buttons. I'm going to come left, left, right, right, and I'm going to go study and see how some other people play chess. And then I'm going to come back and play again with some different moves. And my different moves take me in a different direction.

But you feel that that's not the right way to do it. That's not how we do it. Well, a lot of people are still playing Connect 4. And that's their problem. Just like what you just said, just like you said, the game, if you, if you elite at this game, you're just not putting the ism that's just down on the person you putting the ism down on life life you put the isn't down on life your leadership your conversation your charmingness the ability to light up a room but also give the type of comfort to people that okay I trust this person's decisions

that's what this shit is really about and you have to live up to that to that that that that chariot that people are giving you that you can make decisions in the room and they follow the decisions that you make because they usually lead to either happiness or success. And in life, that's what everybody is chasing. The most successful people in this world, I don't want to say just only the most successful people at will, but some of the most successful people in this world are the people that are giving their testimonies of success

and what they went through their trials and timulations, going on the podium, getting thousands of people in the room, becoming a motivational speaker. Even if you're the president, the president has to stand on the podium in front of America and persuade you through their accomplishments, through their opinion, their way of thinking on why I should be your leader. These are the most powerful and accessible, most powerful and successful people in the world. At the end of the day is all you're trying to say.

That's howl up. At the end of the day, all he's trying to say is viewers that, man, there's pimps everywhere. They might not come like how me and him come, but trust me, they're there. It's alive and it's with. They wear suits. They might not have, you know what I'm saying, some rindstone and shit, a little something, you know what I'm saying? That's why, but trust me, they've money long and they gain even longer.

Come on, man. That's exactly. So that's what, that's again, that's why I'm so glad that you brought up the thing. You were like, what is a ST? I don't even like to say that word. The shit you said is the ST, okay, yeah. Well, I embrace it because I know I'm not a partner. No, me neither.

So it's easy for me to embrace it and put a, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, those are those are those are the real people. Yeah, those are the people that you, yeah, that shit. But exactly, yeah, that shit, I know, no, but I'm saying exactly, I'm so glad you said that but the reason why I'm trying to bring that to is that if a person is able to create a business structure that they don't have to physically do the work that you're doing, but they gave you all of the skill set, they gave you all of the, the tools needed. necessary. They gave you protection or they gave you a schedule. They provided transportation.

Whatever the things that they gave you in order to complete these tasks and then you go complete those tasks and they generate money, but you are not the sole owner or proprietor of that company. You are being pimped. Speaking of money, I got a good question for you. Because you just broke that down and I feel like the truth needs no support and I don't even want to keep harping on that for them because they need to, man, run it back. if you need to hear it. If you got a 9 to 5 job,

if you're being pimped. They have been, yeah, bro, like you're working for modern day pimps at the end of the day. That's what your manager is. So what's your CEO, you do, the network. If they're not credit. You either say yes or you get the fuck out. No, unless they're giving, giving an opening up opportunities

for you to go be the same thing that they are and better. If you are not a part of a job or a business structure or a team of whatever that you are working in, They're not opening up opportunities for you to say, hey, bro, you're going to make your business out there. Now, you get a podcast out of this. You get a clothing line off of this. You get a record deal out of this. You get the rap off this.

You get a weed stand. You get real estate out of this. And I'm going to be the face of it. If those type of things are not happening and you're just working for a company and your labor is providing more profits for them, you're being pimp. And guess what? Because, see, I think how the company looks at it is, like, if I make your stomach too full, you ain't going to want to work as hard as you you know what I'm saying like came they got to keep you kind of keep you guessing keeping you wanting it you know what I'm saying here's a good one for you because you was talking about like

just even the brand situation out people living you know there's a lot of people that are leaving California moving to Texas to avoid taxes how do you feel about all those new people moving to Texas because of that like uh how do you feel I love California you know what I'm expensive as a I'm not knocking nobody going and get bro to land out there you can get some crazy than you can like living here. It's not about I feel like you can make money wherever you go. Yeah, yeah. Make your living situation something great.

I always feel like that. Like make it make sense for you. For me, for me, I feel like I just love to see my state grow. I love to see the state of Texas, you know, finally get this appreciation and just love that it should get on all levels from a living, a lifestyle, on living lifestyle perspective, the music perspective, the entertainment. entertainment perspective, the food, just everything that's been supposed to be glorified from my state.

And also like the property value in the Texas and how you can actually see the fruits of your labor from your dollars, a million dollars, a million dollars, a million dollar home still feels like a million dollar home. A three million dollar home actually feels like a three million dollar home. I got to give it to Texas for that because they do. You get like, it's not country, it's not in the internet. Like you can go out to the country. That's what I realized too about traveling like you said, especially being down and the

running like getting on the road with the game, driving state to state, you know what saying, putting up to the, you know, whatever. When you see that every major city that you're going to has miles and miles of farmland, miles or desert, either desert land, farmland or swamp land. Everybody got rural remote areas in their states. So there's a country, like people. from New York City don't consider people that's from upstate New York or Cincinnati and all the other shit, they don't consider them the same thing as them from being New York

City or the heart of New York because they're from the city. It's like us being from Houston or Dallas or Austin, we know that the country is Texas, other cities, El Paso and Amarillo, Odessa, whatever, Lubbock, Tyler, Texas, those are the country to us. But they still come to the city and they still, Texans, they still, we still act the but we're from the city so we advanced. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I feel like it's it's cool to see everybody want to come live in Texas

and come experience our coaching and shit like that and we got enough space. A lot of, it's a funny joke going around where people say like Texas is full, Texas is full, y'all don't come, but I don't agree with that. I want more people to move to Texas so we can make more money. Like that's how I look at it from a growth perspective. The more people come to me the more businesses come with more ESPN, more Tesla, more more Google, more all of that. We need as much lucrative opportunities inside of the state of Texas and that's going

to come from people seeing the opportunity in the land. So come. I'm with it. When did you start TSF? Um, about 12 years ago, 12 to 13 years. About 12 years ago. Because I've been a rapper for about, I've been a professional rapper for 10 years. I started like, I got out jail, 2013.

Yeah, I got a jail 2013. I went to jail in 2010. Yeah, I got out 2013. And then I started TSF, 2013 when I got out, and I blew up a year later, 2014. I was 24. I got out of jail when I was 23, and I blew up when I was 24. And right now it's 2024. It's exactly 10 years later.

So I started to yourself like, in jail, like when I, well, TSA the record, like, the mind thought and the process, like, okay, we sauce now, we, we, we, we dripped, we TSA, we sauce, like, that started like, 2019, it's like, okay, it's when the sauce hit me, like, the sauce hit me, like, yeah, about 2019, 2019, 2018, 2019, 2018, I'm not, I mean, I know, 2000, I'm saying that wrong, 2008, 2008, 2009. Yeah. 2008, 2009.

We were 2008-2009. I was 18, 19. That's 2008-2009. Yeah. So 2008, 2009, it's, um, I had just caught this case. I had caught a big case in Houston. Oh, yeah. 2008, 2009.

I had caught this case in Houston or whatever, a big case I had caught. And, um, I ended up going to jail for like three years from there. But right before that, when, it's when I was, like, really got in. into the game real hard from like 17 to 19 is when it just really like hit me like okay like I'm doing this shit like somebody trying to say you you was shooting at the trade of truth joint one time that's what I'm talking about that's the case I'm talking about why they're saying that man like come on it wouldn't even know no no no hold on but I was no it wouldn't even like that it was it was a shout out Trader Truth yeah shout out Trader Truth shout out Houston

yeah he's a staple in the city like he wanted he wanted to he wanted to legend from my Yeah, but Tray Day actually, like, to clear it just, I got invited to there as a rapper. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I was young. I got invited there as a rapper in my, me and my clique, me and my group, we was called Mashmo. You know what I'm saying? That's like before the South. Like, this one, I'm like just gang banging bloodshed.

But during the game banging, it's still, like, you know what I'm saying? During that time of my life, it's like we were talking about earlier, like, okay, now I'm making the decisions. Like, am I going to keep selling drugs? with like, am I really going to keep doing this shit? Like, that shit, I ain't, niggas spending out this work. Is it worth it? This is when I'm at that stage. Now, the game banking shit, I'm doing that.

The game banging is worth it. It was worth it for you at the time. No, no, at the time I had to survive. A nigga had to survive. A nigga had to survive at the time. But what I'm saying is, it's like I always had inspirations to be a rapper. I always want to be a successful artist. So I'm like, okay, I'm spending all this money on reing up.

and the money that we're getting back from reing up is not life-changing money. It's not life-changing money. So when I got lucky and the bitch first, you know what I'm saying, when the game first blessed me and gave me my first little 10,000 out of the game, and I first got chose, like the game chose me,

even though I always knew about this in my whole life. Like I told you earlier, like, you know what I'm saying? My mama's some game. I was born, we talk about that next, whatever, whenever that comes. But when I finally got money out of this shit, and I was like, oh, I could pay for my rap crew, with this oh i could my niggas that trying to re up and trying to do this she's going to go get this

10,000 at ease at wills she's just going to go get 5 000 oh 10 000 oh 8 9 6 oh my god how is this happening oh i got oh i got 50 000 out of nowhere you know what you know what i mean how many niggas i know been selling weed and selling crack and selling every ecstasy at the time how biggest trap you ever touched at once when you was around moving in the game your big biggest highlight. Your biggest highlight real. I think we should get to that. Your biggest highlights like basketball. Your biggest highlight.

Hello. We're gonna get to that right here after this, try that shit. The only thing I'm going to swear to try that shit to get to that is, you know what I'm saying? The try that situation was me defending my life for my friends. Me and my friends, like, that's all that was about. We got shot at first. You know what I'm saying? I got shot at first that day.

And when I got shot at, I defended myself with my friends. That's how I went. I got invited there as a rapper to come rap. I'm saying. And I was having money. That's when I first started having money. Like really having money. I'm, like, that was 2009.

I'm 19, I'm 19. I'm having like 50, 60 bands. I'm 80, I'm, as a young nigga, like I got. A lot for a 19 year. Huh? It's a lot for a 19 year. That's a lot for a 19 year. That's a lot for a lot for a niggins back then.

That's what I'm saying? This is 2009. That's a lot for any niggins. I'm having money. I'm putting a bend just like this. And then the thing about me too is like my whole life is like documented on the internet. Like I've been on the internet since a kid. Like I've been on YouTube.

I've been on Twitter. I've been on my space. So that's why it was so. easy for me to blow up in my city so fast because everything I rap about and I do is shit that they actually seen me doing real life before the internet shit. So, like, I've been known for clothes, fashion,

having money, gang bang and all that bullshit, I've been known for all this shit. And having money young. So, boom, the trade-day shit was like me defending myself and my friends, you know what I'm saying, and then it just ended up being a bad situation. And that's what made me go to jail.

And I knew, like, okay, when I get out of jail, like, and doing my whole time in jail, like, I paid the whole time in jail, Okay, I'm just, before, let's speak on this. In jail, the three years that I did in jail, bro, I probably spent by $300-something thousand dollars on the phone. You know what, them, them 15-minute calls. You don't know, them 15-minute calls is like...

A lot of money, man. Listen, bro, I was the king of jail. I was the king in the tantry off of that shit. Like, I was the king of this shit. Like, off of... I got so much money on the phone and so much cummassy. But I'm a gangster, though. I'm fighting.

I'm bloods. I'm one of the speakers with my niggas. Like, I met, I met, a lot of my friends that I met in Dallas and, like, from other places in Texas, we all met through the penises. We all met through jail and shit. And, like, some of a lot of people that's in TSA right now, we all met in jail. So, but a lot of us from the streets, too. But I was the nigga like, okay, you, you, bro, you, bro, you, bro, you want restriction

right now that you just got in trouble for a fighter. You just got a major case. You can't bust cummastair. You can't bust. You my nigga, bitch, I got you, bro. Don't worry about it. Because I got too much money coming from my girls on this phone anyway. I got three, four girls on the phone.

I'm chilling. You know what I'm saying? These are my girlfriends. Hey man, look, she just sent the store, the store budget is you can only bust an $80 store. Like, you can only spend $80 on coming here. It used to be $200, but then they start busting it down. No, they start busting it down.

It's only $100 in store. Yeah, well, what we are, it's $80. Okay. In Texas, we $8 a store. But this is what I'm saying. I got $12,000 on my TDCJ account. I got $12,000 on my shit. $15, $25,000 on my.

I'm gonna jogging like that. Feel me? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm ordering shoes on the phone. I'm like, I'm, if I ain't working out programming, I'm making a dude for two soups and two honey mons. What? Hey, I'm talking about two for one is all that shit.

I'm two for one. I got you, man, bitch, you good. Don't worry about that. Woo, whew, feel me? But at the end of the day, though, I'm my dogma's keeper. I'm my dog's keeper. And if you're just a real nigga too, you ain't got to be the same gang as me. Like, if I fuck with you, you know what I'm saying?

You're a real one? You know what I'm saying? Long as you're going to fight with us, we all, we're going to fight together, whatever. When the politics happened and all that, we're going to stand on the politics, whatever be, whether even you got to speak for your people and I got to speak for my people, whatever it is, when all that's passed and we're just being men and we're just doing, I ain't never tripping by no food or no phone or none of that because I know what it feels like that not happening.

And guess what? I'm getting this money for free. I'm getting this money for doing the same thing that all y'all are doing, talking to your girlfriends on the phone. Y'all talking to your girlfriends a certain type of way. I'm talking to my girlfriend's a certain type of way. is mine about to get ready to hit this account real quick man

I'm gonna keep going over there into the little shit checking my shit every hour like I know that shit about to hit real quick. You feel me? My visitation my visitation used to have niggas going wild

like my visitations I had two different girls coming. They come in like their friends and they're gonna tell like nah they both really like they yeah like that's yeah

I'd be Clark County nigga right I'm in North Tower I think I always remember nigga the bitch would come because she knew her like she would come stand like to the windows you'll hear everybody beat niggas it'll be my hole down there she just came by just

say look at it real quick and go back and hit the other way bro i used to have these girls driving four five hours away to henderson texasers i'm gonna henderson texas east texas holiday unit like i'm just saying they was really like coming to see about this shit you know what saying like and you feel me at the end of the day like again like i say as a man we all going to have relationships with women regardless yeah but just to say shit like that. I spent, I got so much money during time and I really perfected my game too. And too, because it's like I'm, I'm just utilizing my conversation to get what I want and because I can't move. I can't do the things I want to do. You know what I'm saying? And I already

was, I already was live and cold at it, but it's just, you know what I'm saying? You know, most people can't keep a relationship with four, five different women why are you doing three years at the time and they really stay down. You don't come home. Nobody got babies. Nobody got different folks. Nobody got, no, you know what I'm saying? Everything that was supposed to be there for you is there for you.

You knew how to sexualize her mentally. Mentally, mentally. Exactly. Every time she got off the phone with you, she was already stimulated. She was stimulated. She was motivated and she was down from you and couldn't wait to the next phone call. Right. That's just the way that shit went, man.

Right. That's how it goes. Like, if you really got your game on lock, I guess it is a little different than, you know, the average square bear, or the nigger that's married or a nigga that got a little girlfriend on the house. You know what I mean? She might break away from you, you know what I? But see, a pimp's love is something different.

Timp love something different. You know what I'm saying? He loves different. Like when a bitch, two in my nigg, she got tunnel vision for it. There's just no other way she sees it. You know how many niggas I know up in there, then the staff somebody fought, somebody got more time. Did, like, just crashed out, though, they smoking K2 drug.

They just, whatever dope this up in there, they overdoing it because of that girlfriend left them. She stopped answering the phone or their cousin or their mama or the person that they love their friend and told them, oh, yeah, I've seen Shemika and the. What are your best hobbies? What are your biggest that you've been with that bitch that's at your house every day? All that. Oh, man, you know if you drop, you blunt, like we said, oh, you drop the soup. You dropped the soup, man, your gal, you girl doing this.

Now, if I dropped the soup, I made some money. If I dropped the blunt, if you smoke with me, I dropped the blend. I made some money. Yeah. You know what I said? It's different between you. That's the charisma though. That's the fire.

That's the like even if the big is doing it, right? I don't think that. And this is how I'm going to live. Like I don't know. Like these niggas get beat up over the wrong shit. I ain't know. Right. So now the other question you was asking when you're saying like biggest traps.

Biggest trap. Like. Biggest trap you ever touched when you was in the game. Man, be for real with me. Now I'll be real with you. It's not even fair, though, like, to be, like, the type of money on the scene at this shit at one time. Not let you see the list.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a, no, listen, listen, bro, listen. We're talking about the game. Listen, I'm going to give you a small story. I'm going to give you a small, and I've done this multiple times, but I'm going to give you a small story

of one of my accomplices in the game type of shit. Okay. I've gotten $900,000 out of a trust fund, baby, at one time that won it. to be in the game as in the game was already doing what she's doing but at the end of the day their family owns the biggest deer farm in one of the biggest deer farms in america like the number two number three deal form in america they sell all deer products around america from deer hooves deal horns deer meat deer skins like and they got like maybe four thousand or four to

five thousand acres of land and she has already inherited millions But also it's still all her friends is in the game and the lifestyle. They're in the champagne rooms. Like, that's just what she likes. This is what she's into. Some bitches just love the lifestyle. They just love a lifestyle. She just wanted to be rebellious.

She just wants to, you see what I'm saying? She can go be with the doctor, the lawyer. Okay, then. But she liked the sauce walkers. So, understand this. So, okay, now let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

Let's talk about it. You got a lot of people in the game who, and they whole game, their whole pitch, their whole campaign. Their pitch in their campaign is to say, invest in me in where I can be or what I'm telling you that I'm going. Investing to what I can be or to where I'm going.

Most people are not already at that peak level when they're touching their biggest traps or they're trying to, they're getting, they really knee deep in the game. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you are though, like me. I was a person who's seen a bunch of success young you might be one of these people too, you know what I'm saying.

But what I'm saying that to say is, is that I was always one of them people that no matter how many women I have in my life who feel that they want to gift me or invest in me and believe in me, I'm always going to outdo the people around me with my own work ethic. I'm not no sit on the couch and wait for everybody to come back in with the money type of nigger. I'm going to always have my own talents, my own hustles, my own, strategies and skills to create revenue because I'm a fucking man. I used to make doctors and lawyers envy me. I used to make sure I go eat places, bro.

At certain places I know they would eat at, I'm pulling up ass to Martin in 26. Yeah, bro. Man, ask my city, bro. Ask me, man, how do you get this? Like, why do you have that? Because you're not, to them, you're not supposed to have it at this age. Right, right.

They didn't have it at that age. But my city. My, I wasn't starting to have that until about 38, nigga. My city of Vos for this year. I've been riding in a quarter of course. quarter million dollars for 10 years. I've been riding I'm talking about out the game.

Fuck the rapping. I've been riding a quarter million dollars for 10 years. I'm talking about really putting up going to the bank coming out, like setting, I'm talking about going to the bank or going to the credit union,

setting a schedule a date, making an order, okay, yeah, but you did have your trust fund, baby. I've had multiple trust fund, baby. Remember that? And I love that. Break that bitch. And yeah, you did that,

and the bitch was part of the game. And I had real. It's hard for me to count. It's just me. It's hard for me like, yeah, a nigga touched it. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait.

Hold on, wait. Go ahead. Go ahead. I didn't, I didn't have real game. Dubai. Here we go, let's get spicy. 350. There we go.

Let's get spicy. I'm talking about, chilling with the sheeks. I'm talking about Canada, come in come in Canada Yeah Sit down

Bring 350, 200 I don't I didn't give a bitch 161 in one night And he thought he married the bitch Yeah Dude up through the whole Hey man, listen

Listen, let me tell you something Man, listen I didn't have the bitch Listen I didn't have the bitch Go on the date I'm not going to speak on a person You don't have to.

You know, a specific rich, popular, famous individual. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Go to, what was it? Costa Rica. Costa Rica. Costa Rica. Yeah.

Record all the whole experience. Record the whole experience. Put it together in the phone like a whole little slide show. Yeah. Go back to buddy. first go to the place where they you know where their business is and go take a picture with his wife had the young lady go take the picture with his wife like

like they just chilling then go back to go back to buddy like oh he's a cold go back to buddy like hey now listen I know y'all got this much type of money so give me 500,000 say less say less I ain't going to let you keep going yeah like I'm one of them yeah yeah you know see that's a good different level in game.

Like, it's just, you know what I'm saying? People don't work. Yeah, right. That type of, that level of game falls very far away from people on the blade's ears. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you can hear and be touching. That's why I want people to understand, like, the youngest to understand, like, stop doing, like, it's, even for these young ladies that's out here just giving y'all their time

and their effort, like, make them grow, like, get them off of these streets. If you, if you, if you have the ability to do it and you can, you can, you can, you can, like you can get these people off these streets and use them their same ambition their same talents and create different businesses for each one of these individuals and you make them the same money if not more keeping the same relationships and understanding with these people know what I'm saying to see the extra strategy because if you don't look at this shit to look at anything in the streets any activity that street activity and to not have an extra strategy you're a fool you think you're going to sell it out forever

you a serial killer thing you're going to kill people forever you think you're You're going to, you think, like, the only, you, I don't even, I want to say you could scam forever, but you damn they can't scam forever. A lot of the greatest scammers I know got good cases. I fuck with you. Good cases. I fuck with you, bro, and I've always admired the source. I like the technique.

I love your technique and where your mind at. But church, you got to break it down to me because it's always been a question. I always wanted to ask him. This right here ain't even on the paper, nothing. This is just me. Church, the only fan shit, man. What was that? What was that? And I know you, hey, listen, I heard you go get your big on bankroll.

I can't wait. I'm not saying that you did. Yeah, yeah. And I get a nigga trying to go, trying to take it somewhere else. But me, I'm just like, I don't think I could ever do it, church. Right, I understand. That's just, I don't know. It's just, it's built in me.

Like, I just, I feel like that's giving it, that's given it. Like, I've always been a nigga that like to be in control. Maybe that's my problem. Right, right, right. I've always been the nigga like, I like to control the things I know, because that's, I can't control the world. I can only control the things around me. Right, absolutely.

I can't control the world. So I've always been a firm believer in controlling things I can. I feel like that's giving them, if I was ever do something like that, that's giving only fans, that's giving the world, that's giving a lot of these other little f*** ass bitches, excuse my French.

And I don't mean that towards no Fri-S, just our lingo. Right. But I can't get no bitch that church. I just, I can't, like just, I don't know. I just can't do it, man. Shit, I have to make it elsewhere. Call me, call me, call, hey, they

can call me dumb, hey, call me what they want to. But shit, I was just cut from a cloth to where I'm like, nigga. It was just in my community shit, I'd be frowned on. Not just for the nigger's shit. We always did it with the bitch, right? I feel like even the holes going frown on the nigga like damn short. You could have did that one that must a thousand motherfuck case, make one of these holes rich. Nigger why I make an only fan bitch rich or just a regular bitch rich.

I can't do it. Well, for number one, that's already an, you know what I'm saying? Talk to damn near incorrect assumption because every good. girl that I got on OnlyFans with came from the game. Came from the game with me. You know what I'm saying? That would just end up being a part of my evolution when- You made a lot of bread.

So I'll raise this amount of bread. I can't talk about- Listen, listen to it's so funny, the part about it, the girl who I, like, the one of our, I originally, originally, originally started, the only fan shit with was the girl that I knocked back from Bro, long. You know what I'm saying? You know the viral video for a long time ago. Just speaking on that, like, this girl, like, opened my mind up to the aspect of, bro,

it was some shit I called Cam Soda at first, way before OnlyFans. Like, if people who really did this shit, the other day club, they know what they were talking about, like, they were on Cam Soda and Snapchat. And bitch come back with, like, 8,500, 8,000, eight days in a row and never left the house. Damn, how you, this is 85. You're looking at statistics here. This is about the money. Again, I'm not doing this shit to make another nigga happy or to, this is what we talked about.

I'm not trying to fit in. I'm trying to get out the streets. I'm trying to get out of poverty. I'm trying to put my niggers on. I'm trying to put my friends and my family on. I'm trying to change my generational cycle. You know what I'm saying? And also fuel my true talent and my true ability that I have.

music, and to be, to be able to preach and represent the games that I love. I pulled up your statistics of what you make on your revenue or rap. You wouldn't never need on you. I'm going to be honest with you. Hold on, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay. So, look, though, wait, though, not, but I have to compete, though. I don't, I'm independent artists. I never, I don't have no record deal.

You've never. Ten years, ten, I do, I do, I do, listen, I do ten years later, 10 years later after I developed this motherfucking catalog after I got 50 artists signed to my record label after I put out 25 albums

You made I don't even You said a month off your music I do I do That's cool saying You pulled it up You pulled it up

Okay now watch this Now watch this though Now watch this though Now watch this though Now you're talking about You say that Okay We can say that number

But okay Now you can say that number But then guess what Off of that Off of their only fans we're making one million dollars a month we're making two million dollars a month we're taking the one human being

and splitting her body up to eight different people but we can't say that ain't a nice sub you see how you're that's cool the hurdles over it yeah that's we're making a million two million two million a month three million we still ain't good no that's great that's great especially where we then came from where we got to

that's great but you have to understand you have to understand you have to understand that that was not always the case That's 10 years later of accumulating and making this company be there. It's times when the shows wasn't there. It's times where the streaming wasn't there. But that bitch was. It was times where

it's times where I got to compete with the artists that just signed for $20 million over here. He just signed for $5 million, $6 million, $3 million. He's getting $100,000 a show, $20,000 a show. He getting $50,000 a show, quarter million dollars a show.

I ain't on rolling a lot. I'm rolling. rolling loud. Yeah. He's getting 40 for a show. I'm getting 40 off a pro. Right, right, right. So you got to, you got to understand the fans and the community and the people that's the consumers,

they don't care about. He, he rapping about gas bags and you rapping about her burking bag. But at the end of the day, if both of y'all not in the Rose Royce Cullinan, I ain't feeling you the same. Yeah. If both of y'all ain't got the jury that you rapping about in top of you? about I ain't feeling you the same just like a motherfucker ain't gonna respect you but a nigga playing with you out here like a whole

real talk so at the end of the day I'm just like Jesus church and then hold on wait wait then you gotta talk about this aspect too wait hold on how many niggas this really this game there's good players of this game magnificent yeah goldie the pee yeah uh uh uh uh uh my my nica daughter all these people got life 40 years 50 years 60 years

for being in the game, for being called these words, these other words and all that are, yeah, because they're giving out more time. You can go shoot three people in the face and get less time that somebody get caught, that really get caught for doing the game and doing it wrong.

So you're telling me that it makes more sense to not evolve the same way how you used to have to go to a best, to buy a DVD. This is business at the end of the day. It's not about people's opinions of the game and the church. I love the church and I love the game, but we're talking about business and life.

Because if we're not doing this for the almighty dollar, then you're wasting your time. You know what I say? And this is my, this is my philosophy. Then I guess it ain't about labels. Because I feel like once niggas put labels on shit, you ever notice that once a label goes on something.

Yeah, no, no. That's why I've always respected the nigger, be like, man, I have no label. No, no. I'm a God. Hold on this. I have, in my, The labor that I put on myself is I'm a God.

I'm a king. I'm a leader. I'm a drip. I'm a P2 my whole life. But I also brought something to the game. I can tell you this, bro. Like, not the jewelry. It's not nothing.

I came late. I ain't expan me. I'm 16. I'm on a daytime. Exactly. I'm outside trying to shit. Come on, man. I'm still coming to see my partner and come to sit down with him because I'm like,

this is one that I feel like Benney. You know how many times? I want to get into this. Because at the end of the day, you got to understand, you know how many times that I didn't took a girl off of her hot heels and put it in the hot wheels, you know how many times I took a girl out of the blistering sun and put it in the AC and made her mind free. Like, for real, though, you know how many watches I had to turn the end? That's not talking about those. You know how many bank accounts I didn't got open? How

many transfers? Like, I'm elite. I was elite. But it's about, see, people get the game fucked up everything is all about selling sex. No. No, it's not. It's about selling entertainment and ecstasy to the mind. You're selling comfort. Because this conversation, this man wants to get away from his family and his kids. This man wants to get away from his, his shirt.

Everybody always thinks it's flat back. It's not that. It's not that. So if it's not that, then how can you deny or to not with the evolution of saying that I could take a woman and say, her pictures. I could sell, whether you choose as to put yourself on that, that's a different level. But again, you just said that you like to have control. So if you have, if you want to have the control on the game that you decide to go put on the internet, because like we just said, if you're going to compete with people in business, Best Buy is out of business

because of Netflix. Blockbuster is out of business because of Netflix and DVR, being able to save been rewind the movies on on demand just like a lot of peace is going out of business because of the strip club the management the only fans and the photographers the part that they failed to realize is why the blockbusters and everything like that is just like the game everything went digital it so how are we going to deny the biggest digital platform because back page is gone so I win back pages so I win I win back page is gone my brother oh it's been gone yeah so wait you I'm I'm from that call. Let's get in here.

I'm from that car. Me and you both know, right? Me and you both know. Let's talk about it. There's so many other sites that a nigga can hop on these days. And hold on, wait, well, wait. But guess what about, but guess what about those other sites? Guess what about those other sites?

That's why those other sites are still existing. They found the way to cut you out. These women don't need you to be a day. They really going to get kicked off of these sites for you doing, Well, I'll tell you. I don't want to get too much into posting. Hold on.

Because I'm going to tell you this, church. I never got into it for a bitch need me. I got to talk because a bitch wanted me. Of course. I always wanted the bitch. Won what won't. Won what won't? That's not what you want.

That's not what you want. I want what you won't. That's the game. She might need the wrong things. Be chosen. The game is to be chose. I'm not knocking at. The game is to be chose.

We know that. We understand that. But at the end of the day, we're speaking of the crown, brother. You're speaking on the crown. So at the end of the day, if the king is a king and the king is not a fool, why would the king not evolve with the earth? Are you still driving around right now and not having Bluetooth in your car piece?

I evolve. Answer the question. Do you have Bluetooth in your car? I evolve, yes, but you know what? I still try to keep the earpiece and I still keep the tradition. And we still popping. That's why I'm still checking it. That's why I'm still checking it.

Me too. And that's why I still like using the traditional pieces and letting people know because that's where I came from. We're not against that. If you're not against it. I'm not, no. It's us. It's me and you. Okay, so.

We, we. It's we. Okay, that's why I said we. I said, okay, so you're right. Let's say, we are not against that. So let's speak on the aspect from what you just said. That's, again, that's why you have a podcast. That's why you have a platform because you knew at some point.

Time to take the game to Miami Beach. All right then. It's time to take my talent to Miami. I needed to go. It's time to grow. What are for the do? Keep giving all this. Keep sitting in front of y'all and popping this and y'all keep telling me, Daddy, you need to be on camera.

And Daddy, you need to do this and we need to. So what you're going to go? Keep sitting in front of them and not making a dream happy truth? No, man, kill that, bro. Kill that. If you are a genius and you're not no fool, then you're supposed to evolve. Now, whether you choose to partake you and put yourself in there physically and purpose, that's different. But that goes back to the control.

Now, listen, you hold on. You want your game out of the sex and I love the way the sex. You want other motherfuckers and control of your game on them? No, but I do. All right then. love this is no but listen I do love the I love the way that I love sex I love the idea of sex I love what it can do for people I love that hell but I love to run my own visual company of course I have many ideas I can put out there but for my

tradition and the way that I feel I can never put myself on there I respect because of the game I've come from because of the backgrounds that I have and the way that I can respect it hell yeah I respect porn sites I respect I respect what they can do here I respect plugs talk love what they do love how they transitioned it love how they put it as real as the room and put pain everywhere hey man you gonna love this when I say it is it is going but and I would love to put my money into it and see it grow and make something like that yeah I bet you're thinking about that a lot like putting my money in that putting my visual up

to put in my it's something tasteful who don't want digital money to see something from my from the naked eye from sharp's eye from my vision you know what I'm saying so I would love to put something out there. But you go back to what we was talking about, putting myself in the mix, my brother, I can never do. I respect that. I understand that. But this what, but this is what I got to say. You're going to feel this when I say this, brother. We had to talk about this. I love this. This is what I came for. This is what I came. He and you and I think that's why. Hey, man. Hey, shout out to my boy. Hey, shout out to my boy, good game dame because I know he's going to be sitting at home jumping around and living this right here. That's my side to my nigga, son of the P. I'm

my player part of you know what I'm saying. Hey, man, all my real was out there, man, that's watching this one, babe. Hey, so look, look, let's get it to it. Let's get it to it. Silky. All you niggas, man. Let's get it to it.

Don't know what it is, man. For a bone, nigga, all you niggas, I already know, church. This is the question. This is for the real. This is for the cathedral. This is for the cathedral. You know what I'm speaking for the South. I'm speaking for, yeah.

They're going to feel. Hey, man, look here. Hey, man, I say, I'll, before I. That's right, Donnie. Wake your motherfucking game. Hey, listen. I'm going to say, it's a real game in the building. And I'm talking about a master player.

Okay, so this is what you're going to understand because I've saved a lot of young men's lives with this shit, being the stable, being the face of this shit, doing what I'm saying, making the sacrifices. They're doing this shit and show them motherfuck. Fuck what the motherfucker talk about. But understand, let's look at it like this. Most of the players, they are part of this game.

Most of the people that are part of the church, all the chairman and all the congregation is in the church. All the chairman of the board. Before you became, wait, let's talk about it. Before you became. game. They was gangsters. And you was hos. You was saying you was a gang and you was just fucked out. Exactly. And I know where you at. Now, how do you? So let me give it to him. Let me, because you know what's coming. I can't beat me with this. I mean, so let's get there.

So like I said here with you right. Yeah. I love you. I. This is what a check. This is right. I'm right there. So you know, I got to feel it because I'm a spit it. They got to feel it because I'm a spit it. So let's Speak on it. Okay, now listen, when you, the reason, one of the main reasons why you know that you are one of the chosen ones to be in the game and why you know that it can work for you is because the attraction and the fondness that women have for you. You know that you are the apple. You have the law of attraction. Do you have the, you have the apple of every woman's eye in any setting that you could hit. It could be the most gangsters, nigga, the richest nigga in the room, the whatever other thing. And you might be all of those things too. I will be moving one of the baddest bitches. But I'm the one that's going to live with the bitch that everybody won. I'm the one that I always got the bitches that everybody want.

And I might have one and a friend. So once you realize that concept and you evolve past that level, the same way women do when they... They thought me and you lived in fantasy world. No, this is reality. This is not the matrix. No, right then. It's because what the nigga been through.

This is why I was chosen. Hey, man, I, I've been getting Jordans and clothes and shoes and PlayStation's and my bills pay and then staying in $25,100 apartments is the 17, 18 year old because a lot of women like my time. A lot of women like to my spirit. We came a long way from Tall T's. Exactly. We came a long way from all white tall T's. Okay then.

So if we've been, so if we, as a, exactly, long way from the Tall T's and the Reebok classics and the regular, the regular forces or the Air Force 2s, not the Air Force Wans, we had to wear the Air Force 2's because we couldn't keep getting up for ice whites. We have to get the LMAX's some cool shit to make it look like we, yeah. So let's speak on that. You had to pimp from the hell. Hey, all gangsters players in the way, you're just a mac and just a player. You didn't pimped from the hip in life on accident.

You didn't, you just laid and slayed something too, too nice. And she's just giving you all of these random things all of a sudden treating you way different. You're right. You know why I say this? Any bitch I ever. I had. I had. I didn't.

I had. I had. So why if I knew this. I never polled and didn't have the bitch. Because it's a small group of people that's those ones. I never did. I can look at you. I never had a bitch that wanted to.

I never had a bitch that left me that I wanted to keep. I never had a bitch I couldn't keep. If I ever, any woman that ever been with me or dealt with me in life, if I ever told them, I'm talking about any woman. I don't care if she'd be with me for 30 minutes. Any woman that ever been around me and been in my life, if I told that woman at that point, baby, I'm ready to be your man and be with you and do-da-da-da.

I just want to change it. they would jump for joint, jump out their skin and feel like they won a lot of because I'm one of those type of men. So when you know, you gotta come back out of my division, church. Nah, anytime. We're gonna love you. Anytime I love the, I love the pop, bro. All the OGPs love me from all around the world, bro.

You know what I'm saying? OGGGGGG, that's like one of my best friends, the Good, Prez, Ball from Dallas. Like, these are all my, my, man, you know what I'm saying? You know, my twin, my twin, Central O'Sousey, like, he won't, he won't. We was supposed to, he took the award for us for the South Twins, but, you know, the honorable thinking Bishop, Bishop Dunn won gave the South Twins, the players a year, the rookies of the year.

I broke records in that trophy. The year the Gub won, they gave my twin the trophy for Rookie P. of the year. I watched one. I think that was the year, Gub pulled up Bentley and all that. That year right there. My twin was with him the whole time he got award the same year, Gov got his award. It was in Chicago.

Yeah, Pepsi was there. Yeah. Chicago, man, ball, quite a few times shit. That's big for motherfuckers to come from Texas, though. Like, you feel me. I got cups. Debbie been making me since I was 17 in the game. Debbie was making me cups back when she was making them for little John.

Yeah, the John Lill flipping him. I remember, I remember, I remember when she was making them for L' John, little flip, Pemcy, Bunby, I remember them. And Debbie even know, like, That comes from game, though. We made cups like that, Donnie. We made cups cool. Look, look, you know, I'm-

I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell her house, niggins. So, nigga, she's still over there. Like 73rd Jefferson. She don't stay there no more.

Stay there for years. Look, salute the, salute to Pimpy Ken, man, salute to the Lidja, Pippie Ken, my nigga. Okay, you call him, here to tell you about this. I'll call Pippa Kian right now. He don't answer the phone.

I believe you, call him, but listen, his son be with me every day. But listen, Ken did an interview, Ken did an interview, and it was a game interview. They brought my name of it. Like, how you feel about Sotswalking? You know what I'm saying?

How he did in the Onlyfans? He said, we all looked at you crazy. No, he said, this is what he said. He said, when everybody was coming in me with the Sotswarker shit and saying he was crazy and why is he doing that? He said, I think Sals Walker, the best nigga they ever did it and get away with it.

If you is cold enough to make a bitch make $3 million, I'll take a pictures of her feet, that's different. If you cold enough to make a bitch go in this world and make three. Okay. Okay. So then maybe I'm mistaken. She didn't nothing up but taking pictures.

Maybe I'm mistaken. So you've never been a part of. I didn't not say that. I never said that. That's why my earlier point that I was trying to get to was about that, about the fact that nigga been pimping front of hip before I, any nigga that's a street nigga, you was pimping front of hip that got into the game. You was pimping front of the hip before you just directly got it to just the straight is.

But you learned it, though. Oh, I'm a genius of it. I know the game backwards. I do. I do. I do. There's so many niggas, so many of my, so many of my player partners got 40 years, 50 years, 100 years life, two lives for the game.

But you got 20 years on the outside of this shit. I do. I do. And I'm going to make sure I get a hundred with freedom. And I'm going to optimize and monopolize and monetize the blessings that God gave me because guess what? Back to the Pibbikers shit, though. I want to do this.

I want us to lose sight on that, my man. Like, I want you back to the Pibbikian shit. Yeah. I felt like when he got asked the question. And you could pull this up in the interview. It's on the Internet. I feel about Sauce Walker and him doing the only fans. Pippa Kins say he felt like he wanted the best that didn't got away with it.

Exactly with his exact words. And it wasn't. And he told me this, huh? But the money wasn't just on you. Now, if you was a cold-ass, you got into an RT's taking big flicks and bits of feet. That's what I'm saying. Listen, that's where it starts. That's where it starts.

It starts right there, but then you start to realize and the people start requesting more. And for me, it's at the end of the day, it's COVID. I'm going to bawl, bro. And at the end of the day, listen, hold on, look, look, look, what you just said? Hold on, wow, wow. Nah, fuck that. Let's take it down in the clue. What you just said before we even got on camera.

You said, look, Pete, church. I ain't never did nothing else in my life but survive off the game. Yeah. Well, guess what? Me too. When they was robbing and selling bricks, I played with that. I tried it. I did whatever.

But the game is what saved me. The vagina comes, the womb that I came from, that's what made me a millionaire. It's what opened the doors for me. So when. As an artist in the world is shut down. It's COVID-19. Everybody thinking that the world's from the end, he's going to die. You can't even be outside and put game down like that.

So you don't feel like hip-flipping? How long wait, though? Wait. Is it, was it or was it not? Your hip-flipped. He went to it. You said, shit, nigga, I'm going over here. I'm going to do the only fan shit.

And get myself in the mix. But I'm still doing something that's a part of the essence of what I made money from. It's like to say, Watch this. I'm going to kill everybody with this one. To say that it's a red flag or it's just all away, whatever the reason, the penalty of one, for going to call it against the church violation, whatever, for to take the ism to the web after way before,

even though every Pee in the world, let's say, Pimpin name did, they just moved to the web. When Pempty said it's 20 years, everybody loves to say, you just said it went digital. Hell, even Pimp C, he was married. Oh, I'm glad you said it. Oh my God, you said it. I ain't want to, so how can you, and I, man, I, I,

I'm gay-affir-a-fiel-hury. I didn't say it. I'm going to hear that shit. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up. Stop, come on, because just, this is what the f- I'm talking about, hold on, let's get in there. We've been here. He ain't the only one, though.

He ain't the only one, though. So let's not just speak on his name. He not. Hold on. We got peas that it turned to pastors. We got peas that is out here talking, giving spoken word and church and game, but they said that they left the game and that they can have wife and children and they try to steal, dibble and dabbling in the church and be with the church.

And guess what? We don't judge them. We got peas that had whys and kids. Hold on. Hold on. We had peas that had wives and kids during the whole time that they had game, lying to their game, that they was being faithful to their game, that they wasn't being being with squares. You got this woman putting her life on the line for you, putting her body on the line for you.

And you over here loving on the square. Then they give me you a dollar. Hey, hold on. I don't know about the loving on the square bitch, but you know what? The best bitches I ever had was turnouts. Of course. Because you know why. That bitch's blood was pure.

We know that. It was everything I ever dispelled into that bitch. Now I'm gonna tell you this. If I would have ever, in no offense to sauce. Go in. Go in. This could be any nigger, right? Any bitch I ever got from the last thing that never taught that bitch nothing right.

Any bitch you ever got from me that I ever turned out, I bet you're going to say that was a good ass hoe. Squabbit business. That was a damn good asshole. I squubbed business. Man, that bitch ain't never brought me no problems. Man, that bitch never got in my hair. Man, that bitch wanted to see me pimped. All she ever wanted to do was see you pimped.

You get that bitch from these other niggas. These bitches, guess what? They want to be loved on. They're looking for this certain type of infection. Bitch, I have a pimps affection. I have a pimps affection for the bitch. I can love you, bitch. I just can't love you the way that you think that you want to be loved.

Because you have to understand this, baby. You're going to do things. I'm going to do things. Talking. I can still lay my head next to you at night. You should accept that. Exactly. Except the fact that you have.

And that's where the butter melts. Accept the fact that you're living in the truth. Be appreciative that you're living in the ultimate truth that I'm telling you as a man that you are not going to be the only woman in my life that is a part of my greatness, a part of my legacy, a part of my glory. You have a storm downs because I'm sure you have came from it. And you have a real storm down game. You've had a real storm down game. And I got to ask, I got to ask this like, you

doing you doing only fans, how did your game feel about him? Like the ones that don't do it, the ones that didn't do it, like they don't with that. They all ask me, they all ask me, how can I do it? When should I do it or how, I ain't never, I ain't never in my life. No, that's bullshit. No, never, not even that, but not even that, but not even that, but not even that, I'm the type of p that is willing to have certain levels of open conversation because again, We're talking about living in the ultimate truth

and I'm the type I am the king that doesn't have to lie to you to get what I want. If I have to lie to you to get what I want, you want me to ask you all these questions. You want me to just, we keep it going on. It's whatever. I feel like where we had. It's whatever.

This is why me and you were supposed to have it. All right then. Hopefully we can have the second one and third. Yeah, whatever. Because it's like a three-part event. Yeah, no, for sure. But let's get to the business.

Let's get to the business. At the end of the day, I'd be, like what I was going to say earlier, to say, to not take the isom to the internet and evolve with the game when you got so many people that are considered and represented in the game as greats and legends, they played the game faulty throughout the whole time when you first got into this shit,

you ain't supposed to have no wife and a square woman at home no matter. If you can't turn out, then burn out. It ain't no, I'm aware. I tried to turn out and she couldn't turn, so I kept there. And because she was a good woman and she'd do my credit good, so I made her my wife,

but I'm going to keep these holes down. No, nigger, you doing something. some square shit, nigga. Let me tell you something. Yeah, so I'm standing up for the three-old foes right now from that perspective, nigga, you know that. Hey, I love, I'm standing for the real three-o-folds. A lot of these holes been faulty. See? They all been faulty. They all been faulty. A lot of the peas try to save that. Now, we're not going to save it because a lot of you

niggins are husbands. A lot of you niggas I hear a good church-going men outside of the game. And you're trying to make it seem like you're this ultimate king to this woman that ain't letting a woman tell you what to do inside the househouse or why you're telling her what to do. But you letting this woman over here tell you what to do and she's not making the same sacrifices, putting a body in a freedom on the line for your for your money for your for your success and a lot of niggas don't be understanding this you know how you cut that out stop living with these bids no I never did I'm like I ain't never man salute to my niger Mazzuite J man it's caught on the couch like ouch I I I ain't never live when a bitch

come to man a bitch come visit me that's a listen coming to see me it's like going to Disneyland you on a field trip you coming to see the level that I'm living You got your own spots and got your own thing, dribbling, but I got my own dripping. You're gonna come to, this shit like going to Disneyland, baby, you're coming to see Michael Jackson, you coming to see a goddamn, It takes time to build it, though.

Yeah, you're coming to see, winter to poop, baby. You know what I'm saying? It takes time to build. Yeah, it takes time. That's what I said. So when you're competing against the world, just like to tell, that's like to tell burner that he's supposed to keep

standing on the street selling weed and selling distros of doing this shit and not create cookies. You're a damn fool. So Burn is not a chapel no more because he got cookies now? Burn is not still considered one of the greatest trappers alive that sold the most bowls in the world. I didn't hear him kick his game and you know he didn't add. I think my first off.

I ain't talking about the game. I'm talking about the smoke. I ain't talking about even though he is of game too. He's up game too. I'm talking about the smoke from the same. But you're a game member. I'm a game member. You feel what I'm saying?

But I had to be the game. You've elevated it to a game member. I'm a game member. Absolutely. So when I sit here, I just put the magnifying glass on it because it's coming across our desk. We have to look at it, church. I have no problem with dealing with the council. Yeah.

I have no problem with dealing with the council. But understand this. It's a whole other. I want this to be like a three part. We're going to do that. This is the last thing. This is the last thing I want to say about it because this needs to be spoke on too for the game. For the people that just be one that had on me that's of the game.

There is 16s in the game. Okay. Who else do y'all have out here that's representing this shit. competing with the greatest trap rappers in the world, the greatest scamming rappers in the world, the greatest rappers in the world. I'm the face of this shit. I'm over here.

Nigger, I'm over here claiming. You're ours. Thank you. So that's why we have to make sure that we look at everything across the table and whatever the f***ing. I respect that. I'm going to come stand on the business. It's okay to do it.

For the state of Texas and for the game. Sauce Walker for the record. Sauce Walker, the P, the drip the splaster, the big dasher, to made it come faster and disappear like Casper. But aside of that, I just like all the trappers, got their community of people when they hear rapping about it and buying these cars and reaching success about it and y'all support them, they need to, our community need to need to support the ism and the game

in this music that really is for the game. Like, we got PG on. No, so, but I love Mar. Have you went and done something with Silky yet? Bro, I've been telling Silky and all them in Dallas. I reach out to all these pieces, but I take pitches with them, by I did songs with a lot of these niggas ball, uh, all ball, all ball, or that. This is from that this game.

Filthy Rich, Rallow, 50 Rich. Bro, it's a lot of game. I'm talking about, I'm talking about, hold on, shout out to cross the P. Hold on, shout out to Cross the P. My boy, Cross from Vegas, major player. Cross the balls. That's what I'm telling you.

That's my nigger. I just said, I just said, we just talked about succeed. We just talked about succeed. We just talked about succeed. It's so much game around. I know, I know. Me too. We're one of the same.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For you to know cross, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not across about. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. So what I'm saying is, and we, these is our, we, these is our, my partners, we down and around, like, really just chilling, we're in front of the cosmopolitan, we're in front of the golden nugg, we in front of the woo-th-wooey-want-dress, whatever, like, way

before this shit, 10, 12, 8, 9, 6, 7 years ago, when, yeah, Sauce Walker is a rap, but sauce Walker ain't on Coca-Cola and Pepsi, Sauce Walker ain't on the tour doing 55 dates getting paid 50 and 60, 70,000 dollars a show. So how can I compete? Without selling my soul, I could, with a real, what a nigga, with a real, with a real, what a real, ain't going to do? I ain't going to bend my ass over for the record. I'm going to bend my ass. Your soul is a part of the pivot. Right? Your soul, like, even from where the womb you came out of. It was destined. Yeah, I was born in this year. My mama is game. My uncle gained. Shout out Scorpio to P. Chicago. My blood uncle.

June bug to pee my blood uncle, Chicago. Don't feel like a little piece. Like, as you say, you could sell. Did I lose a little piece of the game for that? You sell a little piece. No. You made money. No, I evolved.

No, I evolved. I got real friends that I chilled and sip, drank with and bought cars with. They're doing life in prison, 25 years in prison, 30 years in prison for getting desperate in the game and make a stupid decision. No. No. It was a nigga destined for greatest. You can't. Hold on, wait.

The rap does not work for everybody. How you're not looking at those? I know I'm that boy because I'm a genius, but then they're that. How many rappers didn't make it? How many rappers didn't make it? How many rappers didn't make it, bro? How many rappers got platinum records right now that you cannot fucking remember who they is?

Y'all wouldn't even allow them to come to know jump in and do an interview. How many rappers designed for millions of dollars had a hit record 10, 8 years ago? Do you not know? I don't even have a platinum record. I don't have one platinum record. I'm a catalog artist. The game. The game, exactly.

What are you talking about? Exactly. Exactly. I'm platinum off the bitch. You do. I'm platinum off the snow. man I'm playing them off the crow I'm pregnant off the game I know that I know this I know this we're talking about rap music so what I'm saying is this is what makes me the goat this is what makes me the goat in the game this is what makes me the goat that I am

that's why the game needs to support me the game got a ride even though they do but I've just said this argument is I'm saying to all you at home that's watching this shit I know how easy it is a few times I know how easy it is to get in this shit and feel like when we get around certain people like we can get lost through this shit And we feel like we don't get the support that we need. Pete, I got one more thing to say. What about, what about, what a, what about, what. I got your. What about, what I love you.

Now, I appreciate this. Now, I appreciate this. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying, what I'm, we don't get back to what's going on. Hey, I look here. It was real. It was pure. Hey, look here, man. I'm really, I'm telling my really one of the ones.

Like, all right. You're going to show us today. You're going to show us today. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny.

I ain't even going to go all the way into that, because I really can. I'm going to tell you something on camera that's going to really pop your top. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, anyway, because I ain't given nobody to clock. But anyway, like I was trying to say earlier, man, listen. We are the cloud. We are the cloud. We're the sky.

We're the universe. We're the water. You know what I'm saying? You can't swim without coming to see this shit. You just can't. You know what I see you in the building, mate. What's up, church? What's up, church?

What's up, church? Man, that's my baby. Man, that's my baby man. Let me guys seeing you. it's only one nigga up in the front and why you here today I don't even say I don't even say I don't even

Yeah I know blood outside of something But yeah Tain my nigga big blood man Just some games But so yeah but like I was saying that man I was a gay Tonight Bob was a fool I wasn't a gang member anymore

You know both I hold both of these things very cause of my heart And the type of And the type of the What I am though I'm Pauru So the thing about this is Pai Rue is Pamping Red

uniform like the part of the I came up Crip and Church Austin. I see it on your Nick. Nine-N-9 is like I really came from some functions but when I picked up the game the game changed your life so that's what it did for me with rapping that's what it did for me with all my street niggas they start looking at me different so if I already went through that transition now watch this Pete now listen if I went through the transition for being around niggas the only Rob still kill and still dope and I was the

only sole nigger to go be a pimper because again like I told you I'm from Houston Texas it wasn't a bunch of legendary niggas pimps that are from the city of Houston, Texas. Like, we just talked about Pymn. He is from Port Arthur. Let's talk about that real quick, before we get up out of here. Because we were talking about the PN,

I see that you got up money. Yeah, because you went, because you went down in there. You're talking about somebody and never had a wife, never would have a wife, never had no girl. Come on, man, y'all.

You know what I mean. For legal purposes. Like, you know what I did. Oh, you had what you had a wife? See, me? No, I'm on your ass. No, I'm on your ass. I feel like that's against the rules of the church.

I feel like that's a good to do. So how are you going to tell me you had no choice? But you can't tell me I have no choice to not beat them. Going to jail by getting on the internet and making these bitches go. Nobody made you for the camera. That's made it make more money. That's not it. That's the control and make them more money.

That's the control. Nobody got to jump over the room and say in the name of Jesus. I had to put paperwork in front of these people's face. No, no, no, no. We did the same thing. I'm going to be playing the God in a six by nine cell. I'm not sitting here and playing by these rules for these people. It's not about me sitting there and putting that shit on a fucking camera.

I'm not, I've been slagging deep to home. Hey, I'm a little younger. How are you in short? I'm 36. I'm 37. Okay, I'm 33 and I'm going to be 34 tomorrow, June 20 night. Look here, P. Hey, like I said, I'm a gangster.

I'm a G before the P like Grand P, but I love the isn't for the rest of my life. I see them all the gangists too. And they always did what they wanted to not what they can. Nah, but we do. Hold on. Your morals stand for life. My Morris is there. My mores is I just want to say this.

Hey man, when a nigger been blessed in tenet in my area of doing this shit, and we've been pipping from the hip before I had the game that blessed me to why I could do it from the mind. You don't hear what I just said? I was going to before I did. Before I accept. It's levels. It's levels. You're right.

It's levels. It's levels. It's levels. It's level. I just said that. I said before I come to the mind, you see, my fingers was already there. So it's just like with basketball. At first you got to learn dribble, but then you got to learn post moves.

You got to learn how to do the stunt back jumper. It's levels. You become elite. You don't start up elite. So once we got elite and we start pimping from the mind. Because the hip didn't work. All the time, and the hip is now longevity. But guess what?

Just like sending that picture, when the bitch want that picture, it gets in when you a young nigger, when you young and you're, you're, you're a young street player. She, oh, baby, send that to me, I'm a presentation. She, oh my God, I love this. Now the world a chance. It's where everybody want to picture and everything, and I can take a picture of me and this bitch and set it a million times and never have to do it again.

And guess what? It's a residual check. A residual that's going to come every 30 days for the rest of my life. I can open up my phone right now. Listen, brother, I ain't filmed. I haven't filmed or made an OnlyFans video in like eight, nine months or a year. And right now I still got by 200 to like $180,000,000,

just sitting on the OnlyFan. I haven't even pulled out. I want me tell you this, you know how much I believe in you. They want to see me go back to the game. All the way back here, but I ain't never left the game. We never have to get in you. But hey, man, listen, free aisle of real piece on lock. You don't even know.

Free all of real was on life, man. That got caught up in this shit, man. There was a party. Did you just see? Did you just see, let's speak about some no-jumper-vile shit. Did you just see on the internet in the state of Texas where the police pulled down on some ism and took him to jail and gave him the case? Because whatever went wrong, they caught the laws, however it went.

And there was eight laws pulled up, five police sergeants and marshals and stuff up in there. And they got this young man up and they're going to jail for whatever he did. I don't know the situation. But he went to jail for some games, for some is it. Do you know what the police officers played on the intercombs? What? South Walker. And you're trying to tell me I'm supposed to keep dibbling and dabbling

and playing with my millions and playing with my freedom and my intelligence. No. Or walk away from the game. You've elevated. I elevated and I still make the money from the game. It's still a place. It's still from what we just said, sending the ideal of six. The problem is, hey, listen to me, see.

But I feel where you come from. He knows where I'm about to go, dog. I feel it. No. They ain't want me to get in part. But we want to control. He knows Sharp has this. Hey, I'm here with you, dog.

We hear. I appreciate all accompaniments too, because we want in the same. I love. Hey, I always listen to me, man. I f*** up with you. I appreciate that. I understand, man. You know, you still have a choice.

It's not about you playing with your millions. It's not about you doing none of that, man. It's about you elevating and understanding that. Now, look, you know what the bitch always had over us? The choice. The choice. Because you know why? We always try to think that, hey, man,

but a bitch you like, we're like you, right? Right. We're in the position now to where like, hey, man, we can like what we like to. We're choosing too now. Absolutely. So I don't want to hear no niggas try to sit there and talk about what the situation in when you had choice

in the bitch that you fucked me. But never forget that, it's earned. Women don't have to earn sex. Women don't have to earn pleasure because women hold the key to pleasure, which is their vagina. They don't have to earn it. All they got to do is come outside, man. The nigger stick his dick in a dirt hole. Listen to me.

No, they do. We have to earn that. Bits go with $5 shit from Target. And this is a shout out to the ladies for this one. They do too because you know what? A bitch can sit there and, man. Yeah. Her holes right there.

He could put it in, but it doesn't mean that she's emotionally attached. A woman going to like what she's like. Oh, okay. On that level, on that level, on that level, absolutely, absolutely. She is something about this man that makes that bitch really want to f*** with him. Yeah, for sure. You get what I'm saying? So the time that he sticks it in is ecstasy.

Right. His ecstasy. And this is the guy the weakest game to the next 10 bitches. But guess what? To this bitch, it's something about this man that she'd like. Whether it's something that he tells her the way he moves her hair, whatever it is, moves it out of her face. Hey, baby, you got a blemish on your face. And it's about him to capitalize.

I, that's the, that's where I go deep. Right. And I look at it. Right. You feel me? It's about him to capitalize from that point. Real shit. For sure.

Come on, church. I ain't never knocking that church. Me and you. I ain't never knocking that church. We got too much. Hey, I want us to get another one tomorrow. We got to keep this one going different outfits. I know, man.

It's 20-20s. It's young man. And we get back to round two. IP worldwide. You get back to round two. It's 2000 to 2024. Yeah. You better get you some of this digital.

Because a lot of these folks out here, like we just talked about earlier, they propagating. We've been digital, though. We've been digital. But look what happened. Safely. Safely. It's all dangerous. This shit. That page was like McDonald's.

Hell. Oh, why are you doing that, man? Come on. We're real ones. We got real ones that's gone. It's nothing. Hey, listen to me, it's nothing no more. It's nothing no more.

This shit has evolved. Because you want to cut. You got that brain. I do. Everybody don't have a brain we got. They still sitting in the car. They still sitting in the hotel with them. Don't you think about the niggins like Molly calling them.

I want to talk to you about it. Come on. All right. All right. I know you know all of them. Of course, all up, man. You have. That's why certain names I wouldn't even trying to, I don't even want to even.

We made the second segment. All right, come on, man. I'm, you know, this one is, I'm saying is, man. People, people, been, all I'm saying is, man. I think this was over.

Y'all ride for the, just like they ride for the trappers, the trap rappers, just like they ride for the scammer rappers. We need the game and everybody that love the game. Ride for all of the peas, not just me, not just sauce walking.

Any Pee, there's rapping this shit, popping this ism, that's representing this ism, they need to be loved and appreciated and supported from it for the people that's ugly. Don't fuck with the, hey, man,

the game, you know there's hell of niggies out of your cutting tracks. Yeah, straight up, especially from the West Coast. No, y'all dominity, y'all dominated before having a bunch of people.

Yeah. All the Pippie Young and all them. These niggas are cut. Silky. Silky. All the niggas. They're cutting tracks. No, for sure.

I love that. And a lot of them love me and fucking. Sugar free. You have got you a sugar-free joint. Man, I don't reach that to all these people. You got to get you on. You want to listen. I got down playing your celebrity.

Nah. And how you mean. These niggas are reachable for you. Yeah. So there's no excuse. I'm not letting that happen. You know you can. Right now.

No, who I? No, my nigger from the sec. My nigger, I, I fuck with bro from the thids. They used to be, um, Jay Diggs. You know what I'm saying? That's my, my, that's my people, you know what I'm saying? I got music. Hey, me and Jay Diggs got history.

Me, Jay, too. Sit down with Jay Diggs in an interview of Ben where I'm at now and like to even platform him, homie, that shit was legendary. Yeah, like, that's, Jay Diggs meant me like, like, probably eight, ten, eight to ten years ago. It probably was ten, two years ago when I really was ten, when I really to think about it when the first time and he was vouch for this he'll tell you this i wasn't a rapper i wasn't sals walker i was just a a walk in hudson he made me at a popular studio in houston ds d1 where a lot of like real street niggas and players used to be at you know what i'm saying

you get you drink we we ain't players with everybody chilling houston been full of players for a long for players we are the home of players and pimps but players of the pen's but there's way more players than penns you don't think memphis is memphis is to one of the elite this one of the dominance well mr i thought i'll probably throw it up to memphis real quick In the South, and I give it to Memphis. I can honestly say I give it to Memphis as far as it being embedded in their culture, their lifestyle, their heart, they soul. The pimping is all the way in Memphis.

But Texas, we write that with them. Like, that's the only place I feel that has the argument with Texas. I feel like it's, I feel like it's Memphis, Texas, and California. It's like all of us together. But even in California, it's a huge line of the game and history of the game. So it's like, I feel like we all supposed to be supportive. But let's get back to the JD shit. Jay Diggs met me with three white girls in my car in a CLS, S550 in 2000 and maybe it was

the 2013. Yeah, I probably was 23. Yeah, like, right when I got that. So, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, either it was 2013 or 2012 right from the time. 113, I wrote when I got that, bro, me, I'm in C L's Ben's gray, three white girls in the car, a big cup of syrup, I'm fresh, fly to the flow, plenty of money in my pocket. When I'm around nothing but trapples, he can smell it on me. He can smell like, who is this?

I've still got all the same respect and all the same love that the street niggas got that ain't on what I'm on. But him being from it and being from the West Coast, he just naturally approached me like, yo, what's up, you know, and I get the poppin and telling him who I am, but who, shout out the OGWD2. Jay Diggs didn't sit down with me for no reason. No, I believe. When you ever we get out of him, you call him and talk to me about me, ask him about me

about me, who is Sauce Walker without the rapper? Ask to J.D., you're going to tell you. But four only fans, the internet ain't exist. I was before even on the podcast because me and him was chopping it up before that, man. I didn't serve church for something, you know what I'm saying? He got on his line and him not even knowing me in the way that he kept it, he kept that shit official, my nigger, like.

No, he's one of the super, he won't. He wanted the greats. It's gonna be 15 years. Nobody. Yeah, he wanted the grace. He wanted the grace. I'm just saying this. Like, man, when I served church, man, that nigga kept that shit official and he, it was, man,

it was water off a duck back. And you can, and when you, straight up. When it's a gentleman to a gentleman, we're gonna learn something from each other, you know what I'm I'm being cool with that man ever since because you know why, he played, this is a gentleman's game. It's a gentleman's game. You know what I'm saying, at the end of the day. At the end of the day.

For me to sit down with him, like, after all that, and like, just to even know, I'm like, damn, this nigga really has been a staple. he's one of the last few like myself and like you and others to where it's like church we got to hold each other together that's why i got mad at you my family fans shop now no i spent i had just i had this conversation not so many times have you over there you know being no it's a bunch of weird shit going over there i can't have no man come on man i mean leave me in the world i've evolved i appreciate that that should have bothered me and make me i appreciate it i appreciate that knowing they're like these my people niggie if you ever needed something that's ever

and thought in your mind. Call me. No, I'm with us. But, hey, hey. Call me, nigga. I have to say this, bro. Don't commit suicide on me.

But not, never that church. Never that church. No, I'm talking about like, I'm thinking. We're going to be thinking. We're going to find that shit. Oh, we need just a little bit of motivation, niggas. For sure.

Well, sure. Nothing in this earth, though. Grind it hell of hard. You respected the game for a long time. I did. I do. Why niggis ain't respect me? Oh, y'all niggas don't really

with niggas like that? I'm going on my own. My own lane, even if you do a bitch on camera, I get it. Not everybody was even accepting you before how you was playing. I get it. I remember putting up in a room for the blood. I remember put up in the room for the par rooms and body hunters. They're saying, bro, you're a pimp.

That's some clown shit, bro. You run, why are you moving like that? Why are you talking like that? And then I had to make, now these niggas and these gangsters and these bloods and this shit. Now they're trying to get them a bitch or too. Nah. Me and you would have came through a wreck house. What you're talking about?

Oh, niggie, y'all trying to value. trying to play with them, nigga. You niggas. What you niggas say? Been around here and pull your bank roll out, niggins. Now we're sweating your bitch. Now we're all in your business. And that's how I grew.

That's how we used to go. That's how I was. You ain't gotta go do- I'm like, because I get it. You're like, well, if I'm on my own, I'm gonna make my own choices. I can make my own game. Again, that's another thing too.

And that's another thing too about this too. We still got each. Again, remember this in Texas, again, we wasn't taught the game, we just This is get, we're just in the game to get you chosen. I know the games I do know. No, I'm somebody in the beginning as a youngster from where it was originally handed to us in Texas. When it's originally handed to you, the game is handed to you.

It's from just being going into the strip clubs and hitting the blade and just being out there, either setting dope, chilling game back and then you run into it. Me and my previous knowledge is of it because I was born into it because I was sitting in the car overnight. When my mama was homeless, waiting on her outside of the strip club to get our work at 2 o'clock because my uncles down and around catching cases and doing what they were doing from my whole experience when I was back and forth from Chicago. So, yes, I was very familiar

and understanding what it means and what it is and what it does and how to do it and what is right and wrong about it. But my personal experience and getting into it was completely different than average person that does it that's from either California, from Vegas, from Memphis, that you got 20 uncles that live with you. My uncles in Chicago, I'm growing up in Houston and Chicago back and forward,

but primarily I'm in Texas. So the every nigga that's around me sells, pikes and pints of syrup, bricks and bricks are dope, or piles and pounds of weed, or they robbing. Ain't none of these niggas no game. None of the dope ain't even real no more.

So it'd be fucked up to even listen to some of them niggas. You know what I'm saying? The dope ain't even real no more. So, when the last time a nigger found a pint of activist. Shit, that's right. Come on, P. Come on, Pete.

I mean, the nigs going to drink. So, so, so, so, so think about this church, everybody, majority, that's why, like, I always say this shit in Texas, like, it's a few other, older OGPs like Candy Man, gorgeous, George, Cadillac, a few OJ. How much I love Texas. But my generation, we really, I would screw the clip.

My generation though, like especially me, the South Twins, TSA and a few other young niggins from like Dallas and shit, we really introduced the youth in the world to like, okay, this is an option for Texas. This is something that we do like outside of the game, just being in our face and us. You know how many people, how many players will come from Memphis and California and come to to Texas and run through that bitch because there's so much game going around not being. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. And then guess what Texas niggas didn't know what to do with it?

And Texas niggas didn't know what to do with it. Now every young nigga in my city from Dallas and Texas, they want to be some ism. They want to do this shit. They want to rap about it, representing. No, Harry Hines is a business. That's it. That's it. Harry Hines is a business.

That's why I'm never going to speak on this shit without saying Dallas. Harry Hines, Dallas has been happening like this. I give it to Dallas. On that, that's what, that's what I, listen, my argument, my argument with Memphis, where when you compare like Texas, Texasism to Tennesseeism, Dallas is what gives, is our fighting effort outside. You got bison there, you got head hinds, but Dallas is from a cultural standpoint where you go through the city of Dallas, South Dallas, West that,

and there's real game, realism all around the city of Dallas, and they really growing up around that shit, it's an option for them. That was not an option for Houston because we're the bigger city that got everything you want from the we the hub we right by the water we were we got all the Mexicans anybody in Houston could be a plug bro growing up any nigga got a hundred a hundred a hundred hundred whatever the every digger got there every uncle cousin that's what it is so we damn there was like Pokemon or like a alien coming up with this shit you popin out with three girls on the same accord it's like a fucking alien it was coming up in Houston

Texas in my era like huh how you can how can you do that and they're not fighting the argument and putting each other hair out let alone before you get to the money. So, you know what I'm saying? When it wasn't talked to you, the way everybody was even talked to it from the first place, I already look at the game the way I looked at the game

because a lot of these people learn the game from DVDs. I'm not going to be that. I learned my game for putting my feet in the ground, state to state, hands on. You have to be hands on. From hotel room to hotel room to got down casino to casino.

From blade to blade, we're talking about Harry Hines, Aurora, Bissanet, goddamn Figaro, whatever. Whatever you want to name it, I can claim it down. If I've been there, if I ain't, I ain't. But I probably got something sit to me from there and they even had to go. You ever met Simo?

You know, Minister Seimo from the church? Minister Seymour. Yeah, I think I do. Like, hey, one of the Bishop, Brian, man, been a good friend of mine for a long time. You sit down with a nigga like him, he taught me a lot. See, he taught me, and this is real, church, he didn't teach me just how to pimp on the bitches. He told me how to pimp on the world. Life. It's life.

It's a pimp on life. I really get it. Close the pimple of life. The only thing we never did was just the only fans, church. That was crazy. No, no. That was crazy. Because it's a new, we're younger.

It's a new world. It's a new age, bro. You're 33 years old. Man, I'm from 1990. I sure did. But hold on those. But I remember this argument. I remember this.

Listen, listen, I remember, listen, I remember when the church, I did. I did. And I remember when the church used to argue with all. All those young peas that's all in my age group for having girls in the AC. They used to say that that's not the game. They used to say that if you got a girl in the strip club and she's not bending her back over or laying on her back up, she's not busing the date and going to the room that's not game. I promised to God that you and y'all, the viewers and the viewers, yeah, the peas out there, y'all know about this argument. You all right.

So you know what the church was trying to do to you? They used to do that. They used to say, don't go to Vegas. She's going to go to jail. You're going to get a case. They just trying to, yeah. I'll tell you, don't put the bitch in the AC, right? Yes.

But look, how the bitch blow up on you and get the bitch and put the bitch in the A4? Right back where she was. Man, I ain't trying to hear that. Exactly. Exactly. You can't just fall for the okie-dokey-dove. But guess what? That was evolution.

But that was evolution. P's didn't want to do that. That's how they teach you. Did they not want to not do that? Tell the truth. Had you ever not heard that before, game? It happens. But that's how you get taught.

Okay. You have to understand it. That's how I understand it. way I understand it. He's okay. Look how a nigga do you. He's just trying you.

He's going to try to test you, bro. Pressure bust pipes or it makes diamonds. Right. Sure, true. I came a big of it. Hell, if you sit there and you blow that bitch off the accountability of what this nigga said,

guess what? Nigga, you was the fool. You were the fool. And now him and the manager breaking the bitch together. The manager of the ship club and the security guard and the DJ and him.

They taught you right. They busing the bitch. Hey, they taught you right. You learned what I'm. For sure, I did. Just analyze it the same way. I just felt crazy to run away from the internet. Not to me.

I can tell you that you're supposed to, hey, look, it was only going to teach you. That's all it did. I hate to teach that to you on camera. I wish I would have just happen on a natural note where you'd be like, yeah, Sharp, you're right. No, I feel that. It hits different. It's a piece of game and a jewel that you need. No, no, I love it here.

I did. I let me picture at that church. But this is my thing, Pete. Like, I love to always be sharp. Like, that's what we're on the short tape, iron sharp and iron. Yeah. But I must speak from the evolution of the generation that's changed. And I forever going to advocate for that on the aspect of,

even if I don't continue to actually film and I just manage this shit and still create the monopoly of it the way I did to say that I'm not supposed to evolve and monetize and go to the downloads, the digital streaming, the digital asset. Look, listen to say this. If you sell a business, why, hold on? Blend in. If you sell a regular business.

It doesn't evolve. Okay. It doesn't evolve. Right. So that's why I'm an alien. We're not going to go on no 15-minute segment of playing that shit. That's why I ask you, what's a chameleon do? A pimp's a chameleon.

He doesn't evolve. He adapts. Yeah. He blends the fucking in. That's why we had to evolve. You turn into a lion among sheep. Right. Sheep's clothing.

Absolutely. That's how we get our prey. That's how we get our pray. But to be bigger than breath. Me too. I'm saying I'm right there with you. I'm 20 years. I know this shit backwards with it,

nigga. I hated to love it. Nigel. Nigel. I just told you my jail for. I'm screaming for a jail cell, nigga. I'm doing it from the jail cell.

Niggas throwing up signs. I'm trying to figure out ways I can do it. I'm sitting there trying to do sign language letting them know, nigga shit. This is an account I need you to hear. I'm checking it. From the penitentiary on the phone, checking it.

I love you, church. For real, though, in a real way. I'm going to be with this. Man, listen, Aaron, listen, when you go through their phone, you get to. You all need somebody like a sharp, sir. Man, but, hey, listen, all I'm going to tell you is this. Yeah, anybody that don't want to evolve, you plan. You don't evolve.

Once you learn the game, you adapt. You adapt. But guess what? We got to bring new pieces to the game. NBA evolve. Everything. We got to bring new pieces to the game. the game, brother.

You gotta keep your core face. And it's the thing, I will. I never, that's why, because guess what? A lot of peas devolving, they start selling dogs. Oh, well, I'm selling excited phoenches now. A lot of peas evolving. Now they, oh, man, I started a weed brand and I got my pecks because, guess what?

You lost all your games. You lost all that game. That's not his past time. Okay, sir. So, so you're trying to tell me? You ever met Virgil? Virgil. Virgil, who?

The Grand Master Virgil. I got to introduce you to him. Yeah, you know. He was by a church fascinated who's over 70 years old. I claim him as a church member like he's been around. It's a few church members that you know what I don't want to say because I know they're going to feel comfortable with a nigga pop shot in the mic. I interviewed him.

I interviewed him. I interviewed him and Pippa Kid together. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I interviewed them separately and I've interviewed them together. Fascinating, brother. I would love to plug you here and get on the line with him. I'm talking about church been having was around celebrities and all them, nigger and never like played no other type of game.

And you can see just in his demeanor owning hotels. He owns all that type. All I'm, we can end up. I put you with some good people. I want to meet these people. I love to have his conversations. I just want to say for any young man that's in the street to choose to do anything

in the street as we end the interview. The object of growing up in poverty is to whatever hustle that you pick up whether it's hustling, whether it is trapping, scamming. Hopefully you choose not to rob because I don't want to continue to push that narrative.

I would like for people to start. us to stop robbing each other, especially people of color, like, we need to stop doing that to each other. But I understand why people do it when they start and whatever. Or you choose to be in the game or be of the game. If you choose to be in the game or of the game, the object of the streets is not just to be in it, to be praised and to be dwelling. It's to make a bunch of millions to make as much money as you can without getting caught and then get out of it. Even if you still love it and represent it and it still a part of your heart and you still indulge in the conversations and the events of the part of the love of it, but you evolve to

something bigger and better. The point is to get rich, be safe, get knowledgeable, and take care of your family with the proceeds and the money that you're able to make. And to not continue to have to only use the things that you did in the streets to be successful. The game is to beat the video game, not to only be stuck in the video game. The game is to be beat. Even though we learn and loving and understanding, but the game is to be beat. That's how you get, you beat the game.

That's why you're sitting right here. you beat the game. No matter how much the world don't want to love it and accept it. We still love it and represent it in prison, put the jersey on and be in a suit from the stands and still divil and guess what? Michael Jordan and Kobe and excuse me, R.P. Kobe bless it.

So, Alan Iverson, the Chase McGregator, they still go to the gym and shoot basketballs here and now. They still get a little workouts here and there because it's in their heart. It's in their soul and their bones. But they beat the game already. They excel. They got the millions.

They got the mansions. They got the businesses. They beat the streets. That's what every. Everybody, us as leaders, us as men of color, us as black men over everything we're supposed to be teaching these young gentlemen out here is whatever hustle you pick up, master it and then whether you don't evolve to not only be that and you take that and make what, manipulate it however you do, beat the game and not get caught and lose your life and lose

your freedom in it because that was the choice you had to make. We're not doing it because for fun, we're not doing this shit to be praying, I'm a gangster and I'm killer, I'm up here. We're doing it because we're trying to survive and we love what we love. and this would make sense to us. So once you do that and you do it well and you excel, beat it. Don't let the game beat you.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I think we need another segment of this because I got a lot of to say to it. And I, you know, I want to say just, you know, a couple things to keep it brief and we'll keep it moving. Like, I always feel like that. You know, it's always about being the man's man's man. You've got to be the man's man.

I mean, the man that the next man can look up to. I feel that. That's what builds. It's honor. That's our honor. another great man. So, you know, no matter what I've ever done, my nigga, I've always wanted to show somebody that I stand on morals. No matter whether I've made my mistakes, we've all made our mistakes. Come on.

Me sitting there talking to you about my mistakes ain't going to probably make the situation any better. Right. You know what makes it better of me giving you the game from the mistakes. Exactly. Exactly. From both of us. You get what I'm saying. And just keeping it moving and letting them know, bro, that there is a greater tomorrow. It's a greater tomorrow. You put 100% in and you get 100% out.

100% out, maybe a hundred and two. The Sharp take. O'ee. No jump. To yourself business. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And we just had a whole bunch of sauce, man. Come through, man.

I'm happy to be. I'm happy to be. I'm happy to be. Hey, my album come out June 28th, man. June 28th, sauce father, too, man. Get the album. Listen to it. It's going down.

It's a bunch of game for a lane. I think they're ready for it after this one. It's a bunch of game for a lame. It's a bunch of fun for the sun, man. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing to it but to do it, baby. You get used to it.

You know what I'm saying? Don't panic. This shit organic. Owee. Salt Walker. You know, I ain't go lie to you. First time I ever saw you, there was a picture of you

about to get ready to do a show and you was like this, nigga. I never forget it, but shining. I said that was different. I don't know. Hey,

don't be afraid to be different. Don't be afraid to be different. You know what I was a long time ago. It's real. That's real. Who is this, nigga? I'm happy to be a representative of this shit.

I'm happy to be a representative. I didn't know you to be in no game or no revenue. I was just like, I just liked the nigga style. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're gonna talk about that on the whole other level. Hey, it was a pleasure. Hey, man, straight up.

Sauce Walker, ladies and gentlemen, y'all know what it is. Hey, Donnie, another triple double for the books, man, ain't nothing but winning championships around this bitch. Shoot this out there. Yeah. Owee.