No Jumper - Sauce Walka’s Baby Mama Kiley on Sauce Abusing Her, Her Time with Drake & More

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. No-jumber, coolest podcast. on the world. And I feel like today we are doing the Lord's work, having a conversation that really needs to happen because you, Kylie, have a lot of information that I think that the world deserves to know. And I really appreciate you coming out here. I'm doing this. Yeah. So, okay. Happy to be here. You're from where originally? Houston, Texas. Houston, Texas. Okay. And I mean, when did you first meet Sauce Walker? I guess this is probably the first question we should go to.

Um, I was pretty young. Honestly, I was scared of him. And then... Where'd you meet him? Through Instagram, mostly. He reached out to you or you hit him up? He reached out to a friend of mine. Okay.

And he was reaching out to her for me in a sense. He was like, hey, I want to talk to your front? He was trying to really get at both of us, essentially. And then whenever he saw me in person, he was like, I want her. And I was like, I'm scared. Why were you scared? Just his persona. Okay.

Things that I've heard about him. You never hung out of the rapper before? No, I was really young. How young were we talking? I was freshly 18. Oh. Yeah. Okay.

Interesting. And so how did he win you over? Well, essentially COVID happened. And then I saw him blowing up all over Onlyfans. I didn't have any money. I was broke. I couldn't even pay my bills at the time during COVID. And then I was like, well, let me just see what this is about.

And that's kind of how it all started. And so was the origin of the relationship business oriented or were you guys seeing each other romantically? Business, mostly. And so he said, I want to be your only fans manager, essentially? That's how you want to put it, yeah. What did he call it? What he always calls it on Instagram, I think.

Okay, so he told you I want to be your pimp. Yeah, and I knew what it was, too, when I got with him. But was he saying that he wanted to just run your only fans, or was he saying he also wanted to have you out doing dates and whatnot? No, he was wanting mostly on only fans, and I was working in the strip club, too. Okay. So. Okay.

And did he have other girls that he was doing only fans with already at that point? Yeah. Because I have seen videos of him on only fans, which was kind of surprising during COVID to see that. Yeah. I think everyone was surprised. Okay. And what percentage was he taking from your only fans? 100%, I would say.

And then he would give me some back to pay whatever bills I needed to pay or, you know. And how did you agree to that? Like that it just feels like, you know, when people hear about OnlyFans managers taking 80%, they're like horrified. A hundred sounds insane. Like in retrospect, why would you agree to that? I was just young and dumb

And I was just like if this is what I need to do right now This is what I need to do right now And see where it goes, ride the wave, you know Okay So and that's just what I did And then he starts promoting you a lot And did you start to kind of blow up on there as far as you knew? Yeah, I definitely did

Okay He paid for a BBL in my boobs Okay So yeah, I definitely did And you were happy about this? Would you say you were happy about it at first? Yeah, I think I was pleased with it. Okay.

At what point did you guys start, like, dating, or does it become that sort of thing? It was about a year into it, when things started getting a little more serious. And also, that's when things got really bad. Okay, so had you guys already been, like, having sex on Onlyfans prior to that? Yeah, after my, or after my BBL.

Okay. So. All right. Prior to my BBL, I was just on only fans by myself. And were you, like, developing feelings for him kind of the whole time? Or, like, how did that turn into an actual relationship? I think so. And I think he as well.

You know, we were spending a lot of time together constantly. We live together. So, you know, it happens naturally. Okay. And so you said that, like, the time that you got into the relationship was also when it started to get, what, abusive? Yeah. Okay.

Mentally, physically, emotionally. How would you say that that kind of began? Honestly, after I got my boobs done where things started going left, and he was coming off drink, and I was helping him sober up and taking care of him during his detox. And then one day he just woke up and snapped on me. What was him snapping on you like? pinning me up against the wall and strangling me.

Really? Yeah. And I mean, like there's... At that point, I was already kind of too far deep and you know, like when someone abuses you, the only thing that really makes you feel better is that person.

So it's not as easy as to just get up and leave and say, fuck it, whenever I've already invested all this time, money, and now I'm emotionally involved with you. It's not that easy to just... No, yeah, I think like a lot of people think that it would be... be easy for a woman to exit that kind of situation.

And in reality, you know, he spent like a year kind of building up your confidence in him and like sort of infiltrating every part of your life. That's kind of like textbook abuser behavior. Right. Right. So would you say that like that violence, like the actual physical abuse, became a consistent thing? Like would it stop for periods of time or was it pretty consistent?

I would say like physical would stop for periods of time depending on how angry he would get but the emotional and spiritually that never stopped. Really? Yeah. From then on it was just like you're an ugly bitch, fuck you bitch, I'm the one who did this for you and I'm the one who's this for you and you need me, I don't need you. It was constant every day. Wow.

Do you think that that was like being done in like a, a sort of mastermind way of like, this is how I'm going to break her down emotionally so that I can completely control her? Yeah, he definitely 100%. He still thinks I'm his property. Really? Even though I haven't been with him since halfway through my pregnancy

with our son. Wow. So, okay. But at a certain point, like, did you try to distance yourself? Because I feel like, especially with him taking 100% of your money, that sounds like really insane. Like that sounds like something that you probably would have kind of been mentioning. Like, hey, I don't necessarily think that this arrangement is fair.

Like, did you bring that to his attention and whatnot? Yeah, I think eventually as I started making a little bit more money and then I started our relationship grew, he would leave me. If I made $10,000, he would leave me with three, you know, to just do what I needed to do and have money to get my nails done. buy what I needed to buy food and stuff like that. But there were times where I had no money.

And I was begging for $100 so I could eat that day. Wow. And I mean, that's how a guy like that would control you, I guess. Yeah, for sure. To make it so you don't have options, right? Yeah, he would put me in a position to where I had no other choice but to stay. Did he like separate you from your friends?

Yeah, I lost a lot of friends and family over it. Just because he wouldn't really like let you communicate with them or? Well, he would trash them and then, you know, just all the toxicness between him and I took a toll on my other relationships. And eventually people were just like this. Really? Yeah.

Damn. So even your family? Like, why would your family, like, how did that distance get created? All the toxicness. And then, of course, everything that they would see on the internet. It wasn't a, you know, it's all over the place. Did you try to leave at certain points? Mm-hmm.

And how would he bring you back? Well, he would destroy my stuff. Or I remember one incident, I pulled up with a moving truck at the house, and he took a knife to my $5,000 couch that I bought and just would almost refuse me to leave. Wow. How much do you feel like this behavior was exaggerated by the fact that he, you know, He's pretty open about the fact that he's like really, really into drinking lean. And anybody who drinks lean, they kind of have this like effect where maybe you're having a good time on Friday night.

But then come Saturday morning, you're fucking furious and acting out, right? I'm sure you got to experience that. Oh, yeah, on a day to day. Hmm. Yeah, it was for a while, for a long time, it was he would wake up sipping drink. Okay. He would never put the cup down. It was really hard for him to put it down.

Really? Yeah. Because he kind of talks about Lean. Like it's this like gentleman's club. Like it's like a elite league. Yeah, it's like elite league of players who drink lean or whatever. And I think like I saw Charleston saying this and it kind of mirrored what I was thinking when I heard that. I was like, no, dude, you're a junkie.

Like, what are you talking about? Sipping lean is you're sipping liquid heroin. Right. You might as well put a needle on your arm. Yeah. And I mean, I have done it. I understand how it's fun in small quantities, but at the point where you have to do it to make it through the day.

It becomes kind of scary. Yeah, and then I saw the withdraws that it caused, and he was down bad for two weeks. And couldn't leave the toilet because he was so sick. Really? Yeah. Just be shitting? And throwing up face in the toilet,

he would sleep on the bathroom floor. I felt bad for him because it was awful. I felt like I needed to take him. the hospital right because you posted a video of him where he's like kind of like like this like he just sort of like it just looks like a straight up like junkie like I don't feel bad using that word because that's like the only way I could describe it but there's a video on your Instagram where he does not look well and you're kind of like mess it with him really like poking him yeah what was that video like when was that film um I think it was not too long

ago honestly yeah um a couple months ago maybe and And he would try to quidling, but he just like kept going back to it. Yeah. Really? Wow. That's fucked up. So at what point in all this, do you get pregnant? I got pregnant in 2003.

My son was born September 25th, 2020. And honestly, when I got pregnant, like, I knew I was kind of fucked. Really? Now you're really stuck with him. Yeah, and I, at that point, I was kind of like, well, shit, I have to see it through now. And, yeah, and I think from then forward, I just grew up and got a better head on my shoulders and was like, I can't deal with this with a child. Damn, did you consider terminating the pregnancy or no? Yeah, I didn't, a few times, but I didn't.

I had never been pregnant before at that time, never had a miscarriage or an abortion. And to me, it didn't feel right to do it, so I didn't. For sure. And I don't regret doing it because I love my son. For sure. How did he react to the news that you were pregnant? He was happy about it and wanted you to keep it? Yeah, he was happy about it.

It was something that we talked about previously in our relationship for a while. and then it happened so we decided to go through with it but yeah he was happy but then about three months into my pregnancy he just up and disappeared up until

my due date month and you just didn't see him at all or no nope I didn't maybe a few times he dropped in and out but there was a time where I had to move my lease was up on the house that I was living in and I moved

and he didn't even know where I was living. Yeah, but also at the time I was dead broke, could barely afford my own rent. I would call him and ask him to drop off money or to help me with this, help me with that and he refused. Really? So he's taking all your money.

You're pregnant with his child and he won't even do anything to help you get by? Like what would he say? How would he suggest that you were able to... He just would ignore me. Really? He wouldn't even answer the phone, yeah. Wow.

And I know his other baby mamas went through that as well. Really? So you're in communication with some of his other baby mamas now? No. I do not speak to them whatsoever. I'm at odds with one of them for sure. I'm not fond of her. Even though I sympathize with her

because she goes through the same things that I go through. But she goes back just like you were doing? Yeah, I think she's still with him. Is this the redhead one? I forget what her Instagram name is or whatever, but... Yes. Okay. Because you...

Yeah, that's a lot to get into, but like... Okay, I'll table that. But, like, so do you have the baby, and does he... Is he around for the baby being born or anything? Yeah, he was. And I remember whenever I was in labor, I told the hospital, do not allow anyone to come up. here unless I agree to it.

And he almost refused that to where I had to let him up. Really? My mom was there and she was really upset about it. I'm so upset that she ended up leaving the hospital so he could be there. Wow. And what do you think that he's like doing when he's like ignoring his pregnant girlfriend for months and months and months at a time? Like what is he out there doing?

Whatever he wants to do. I don't know. I really couldn't even tell you. working, rapping, spending time with other girls, whatever. Right. Traveling, you know. For sure. Just going on with his life, like he doesn't have a pregnant girl at the house.

Wow. I'm sorry. That must have been really hard to do with. It was. Yeah. So then you have the baby, and is he more supportive now that you've had the kid? Yeah, he was the first month of. my son's life. He was probably with me every day. And then things again went left on a very sharp

left turn. What happened? And then I asked him, I was like, my rent is coming up. You know, can you, I think my rent was $2,400. Can, you know, can I have some money to pay my rent? I freshly postpartum, newborn baby. And he essentially refused. And I was like, okay, well, then I have to go to work. If I have to go to the strip club, that's what I have to do. And I dropped off my son with his cousin. And his cousin called me back and had me pull back up to where they were at. And he had me jumped. He had you jumped with your kid right there? Or so your kids? His dad was there. And so what? Like a bunch of girls just kind of jump out. Two of them.

Really? And he recorded it. It's on video. And really? But that video's never been released or anything? I've never seen the video. No, but I know he has it. So your baby's what age at this point?

A month or so. And he has you jumped. But like what did you do that made him feel like now is the time that you deserve to get jumped? Because I saw you post screenshots and stuff of him acknowledging that this happened. I don't know, probably because I don't let him speak to me or talk to me or let him do whatever he wants to do to me. And that's part of our issue. And that's why things I think escalate so fast and so quickly and to the point that it does is because I'm also like, fuck you, you know, and I talk back and you call me a bitch. I'm gonna call you a peon, and now we're at odds, and now you're mad.

Right. And that's probably how it happened. That's how it always happens. Did you recognize the girls who were jumping you? Did I what? Did you recognize the girls who were jumping you? And these are just girls that were around him. His cousin.

And then I think a girl also that was freshly around, I had never met her in person, but up until that point. Damn. So how badly were you injured? Not too badly. I have pictures of it. It was mostly just my head. I had some scratches and some bruising on my forehead, but that was really it. And he's just like overseeing this?

Like what is he saying? Or like what does he say afterwards? Well, after that, it took my son obviously back and I went back home. And a couple days later, he was at my house banging on my door, begging me to take him back and be cool and offering me money. and, you know, it's just the same old bullshit. It always is. Wow.

And how long did you separate at that point? Because, I mean, that's got to be kind of hard to get over, right? Yeah, I think, you know, I did definitely take him back after that situation. And then I think we went to like a couple, maybe a month or so, a month and a half or so after that. He took me to a court side game to the Rockets. Mm-hmm. And we, you know, he made up for it, essentially, I guess, if that's what you want to call it. If he had laid hands on you, like, repeatedly over the years, why would he then feel

the need to get you beat up by these girls, like, just to not get his hands dirty? Well, because during my pregnancy, I was so angry with him that I exposed him also around that time too. That's when you first started posting about him, and that is what really, really triggered him, you think? Yeah, and then I remember him telling me throughout my whole pregnancy the few times that he would talk to me. And it was mostly arguments. It wasn't anything lovey-dovey or anything like that. He would mostly just scream at me and tell me that he's not going to put his hands on me anymore. He'll have other people do it.

Right. Jeez. And he has. So that wasn't the only time that he got you set up? Yeah, he, I mean. set up, no, but had other people put their hands on me. Yes, he's done that. But that was the first time he had me set up

and probably the only time he's had me set up, but there's been other incidents where other people were around and he told them to do what they needed to do. Right. And they did. Damn. What was the worst time he ever put his hands on you though? Like how bad did that part of it get?

Well, probably the stringing. That was pretty bad. I had photos of that also. Right. I almost passed out during that time. And then probably the second time in Tampa, Florida, I flew out there to see him, and I gave him some money. And not even three seconds after that,

me and him got into an argument, and then he opened hands slapped me in my face, and I had to get stitches in my mouth. Wow. It's like occurring to me how crazy this is. as we're saying it, that it feels like his fan base are like the number one type of people that are like not going to be sympathetic about this kind of thing. But really, I feel like he kind of deserves to be put in the same category as like a lot

of other people who have been exposed for abuse over the years. Yeah, and that's, you know, like that's why I'm here is because I've dealt with it for so long. I've been dealing with him since 2020. So it's just like this is my life that I live. on a daily basis with him and now trying to navigate co-parenting with him it's almost impossible and i'm like well why not just tell everybody else why not expose it it's i've already lived through it he's already done the worst to me so now coming to the internet and telling my truth and telling my story with him what are you going to do to me we've already done the worst i've already lived through

it and i can do it again if i have to right all you have to do is just speak free of and kind of paints the picture for the world to see. Because, I mean, but he tries to cover up a lot of this stuff with, like, the whole pimp thing, right? Like, this is all kind of justified under this, like, pimp persona. Like, how do you feel about that? I think it's stupid. Yeah. I think it's ridiculous.

Yeah. And it's just, what's the point? You know, if that's what you want to do, then do it. But you're not going to do it with me. Yeah. Because, I mean, like, so many of the people that I've had, on the podcast over the years or like people we talk about

who kind of live by this like Pimp code or whatever. It becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly that like this is just like a front that you put on to justify all of this crazy fucked up behavior. Yeah, exactly. Shit with like extremely young girls,

which you said you were freshly 18, so I guess it wasn't like breaking the law or whatever, but who knows. And then I mean, I don't know what you know. That's one thing I hear about these PIVs a lot, Is that like, as far as making money, you know, they're not following the law in the first place. So the age of consent is also probably not something that they're terribly concerned with.

And now he think, well, now with the whole only fans thing, when that became about it, he essentially thought now it's like, now I'm good because it's covered by only fans. It's legal money. We're doing it together. You know, I'm not sending you out with tricks. We're at home doing what we normally do at home just on camera. You know, what's the point? You know, it's different.

It's not the same. But from your experience, was he doing the more traditional side of pimping as well? Yeah, at the very beginning. Okay. But then he kind of cooled off with that as OnlyFans sort of took over? The digital pivot, as they call it? Yeah, and then I think also after I got like my surgeries and then he saw the change in me and how, I guess, in his eyes, how much better I looked.

That's when he really started was like, you can't talk to anyone else. You can't be around anyone else. Don't fuck anyone else. You're mine. Right. Your pussy is mine. Right. Damn.

So part of what you kind of exposed about him and everything was that you were saying that he was broke. I mean, like, he presents himself as if he's like a multimillionaire with tons of different businesses and everything like that. And then you put $22 million. Yeah. And it's like I kind of have been suspicious about that because I'll see him say that he's got 20 dispensaries. And he's like I just opened my third dispensary. And I'm kind of watching online like, how does that work? So when you post like a screenshot of him having like three grand in the bank or I forget

what it was like 15K total in the bank or some shit like that. Like he's. Well, it was 16,000 in auto loans. Oh, okay. And 3,000 in the checking. Oh, shit. So from your perspective, when he says that he's got a million. of dollars and he's holding the huge stacks of money and shit like how does that work honestly i have

no idea that's something i can't really put together in my own head and that screenshot is not i don't have access to his bank account um that screenshot is he sent it to me because i was threatening to put him on child support because he does nothing but maybe buy some shoes and clothes here and there um but yeah he sent me that screenshot and as far as all this cash i have I don't know. Like I know whenever I was with him and we were together every day, I know a lot of his money came in cash through like rap features and music videos and Instagram promotion and things like that. But all this new stuff I have no idea about because I haven't been with him. I'm not in his everyday life.

And then as far as the dispensaries go, I really think he's just more of like a promoter for it. Right. And then gets cut a check. I don't think he's the owners of them yeah I would assume for sure but that was one thing that like really stood out to me because at one point my boy Remo tried to like put me and him on text to like talk out our issues

or some shit like that and he just like I honestly I didn't even look at it but he just like he had like dozens of screenshots on deck of like photos of bank accounts I saw those messages yeah oh you did yeah he sent them to me okay he was very upset about it yeah I didn't even really like look at it but like it was like all these screenshots of him having millions of dollars in the bank and all this shit.

And like, I'm just like, I don't know. Like I'm, I'll be real. I'm a multi-millionaire. And I've never even considered sending people screenshots of my fucking bank account or anything. Just because like I don't really like want to have to justify my existence on the basis of money or whatever. You know, that's just like so not how I would ever want to be out here behaving. And most people with money, they don't do that. You know, like why do I care if you know how much.

money I have in the bank. It's not your business. Yeah. And that's not something I feel the need to prove. Right. You know, most millionaires or most people with money, they don't care. They're just going to show you and you're going to see it. Right. They don't have to brag about it. And like, I get why he has to do it because he's a rapper because it's like he's got it, you know, flex with chains and cash and whatever jewelry. But like this was just a text with like me, him and Rimo. And he's like really concerned with me like knowing that he has money. And I'm just like, this does not change anything about how I feel about you or like it doesn't make me think you're like more of a big man or anything like that like I was just like I don't know that really

like stood out to me as like whoa he's insecure and so then very so insecure hits home yeah why like you don't think he's like as confident as he maybe lets on interesting no I don't so okay then there was a conversation okay well we got rewind the clock when did you first speak to Drake? I met him back in 2024 on his birthday that he had in Houston. Okay, and you were just at the club or something? Yeah, I was like a private event. Well, I was kind of open to the public or something, and then I was invited, so I went,

and I brought a lot of my friends with me. I think I was with eight or nine girls, you know, we're all bad bitches, his BBOs look pretty, look good. So it caused a lot of attention, I'm assuming. And he came up and introduced himself to all of us. Okay. And how long did it take before he figured out of your Sawswalk as baby mama? Because him and Soss have been kind of trading words for really like since like the very

beginning of Drake's career, which is kind of crazy. A lot of people are just realizing that now. I don't know. Maybe. Okay. Fairly quickly. He figured it out. Did that seem like that was of interest to him?

Maybe, I guess. I can't speak for him, but yeah. Okay, and so what do you, how many times you say you and Drake hung out or like how did that kind of unfold? A few times, you know. Okay. It was, we had a good run.

You know, he's a great man, appreciating him for everything. And so I'm going to really, really say about that. Okay. And at some point he ends up getting you a car. And prior, let's go back to the birthday party. My baby daddy went to the birthday party. Sauce was there. Yes. And he knew I was there. He had his little minions running around my section, keeping an eye on me. And then from what I heard, he was there for about five minutes and left because he was uncomfortable that I was there. And I'm sure he knew what was about to go down.

Oh shit. Wait, what was going to go down? You know, I'm sure he knew Drake was going to talk to me and I was going to do what I was going to do. And I'm sure he had a gut feeling about it. And he didn't want to see it happen in person. Oh, wow. And, yeah, I could imagine.

That would be tough. Did he talk about Drake a lot? Yeah. Ever since my relationship with him and that was, was, two years ago, you know? Ever since that happened, almost every conversation I have about, I have with him, with my baby daddy,

he mentions Drake in one way or another. If I ask him and I'm like, hey, can you give me some money for Splash so I can, you know, pay for his daycare this month? Your child is named Splash for the record? Splash, yes. Okay. No, call Drake.

He can do it. So he was really butt-heard about. about that one, huh? Yeah. 90% of our conflict at this moment is because of Drake. And I'm like, what happened two years ago? Get over it. Like, why are you so, why do you have your nuts in a twist over this man so badly?

Like, do you want to go fuck him? Yeah. You know? Wow. If that's what you want to do, then, you know, shoot your shot. His whole persona he puts out there is like he's so, so player that he couldn't possibly care about what another man has going on. And it's like, from the outside looking in, it seems like you're pretty tender over Drizzi,

having had any kind of association with one of your baby mamas. And mind you, Drake has done more for me than my baby daddy has ever done since the moment I've met him. So let's just make that very clear. Financially, he's just been willing to. Financially. And he just obviously treated me better. Just normal conversations, never called me out. my name. My baby daddy, I can't even get $100 out of you without pulling some fucking teeth.

Wow. Yeah, because like that's one thing. I had Kromaz on here a couple months ago. And, you know, I brought up Drake and she just had absolutely nothing but good things to say about him. And that really stood out to me that like for being a bit of a playboy who's obviously been associated with a lot of girls over the years, you really don't hear any of them have anything bad to say about him. Yeah, I have nothing bad to say about him. Right. He's a great human. Yeah.

You know, if you have anything bad to say about him, you're just a hater. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I feel like he, one or another, he has mastered the art of not leaving a girl unhappy, which I think is a very useful thing because we all know what it's like when a girl's upset at the end of a relationship or at the end of a period of time speaking to somebody or whatever. So I don't know what the thing is secret sauces in that regard, but he definitely seems like he always leaves like a pretty good impression on the girls he deals with. Yeah, he does for sure. For sure.

So, okay. Like, when did he find out that you were spending time with Drake? Like, how did that? I think he knew almost immediately from the party. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

And then I remember the next day I woke up to him. sending me a text message saying, I'm sorry. And I love you. Let's, you know, make this work for Splash and do what we need to do for Splash. And I just remember laughing at my phone. Like, you're fucking pathetic. You're only doing this because you saw me at Drake's party. Right.

That's it. Okay. As far as like, as men, how would you compare sauce to Drake? Like, who's more of a man or who's like the better dude overall from your perspective? I'll be 100% hands down Drake. Why? Like if on a scale, Drake would be up here and my baby daddy would be on the floor.

Oh my God. That's rough. Yeah. And I hate to say it. I wish I chose better. Yeah. I wish I was a little smarter and not so naive. You're so young too.

You know, as a young female at that time, but it is what it is. And, you know, everyone makes mistakes. I'm only human. Right. So, okay, then there was a clip where I was on the podcast with Wack, I think, and I was speaking about Sauce sending me all these deranged text messages. And I was basically, like, I didn't say any details, but I sort of said, like, listen,

Drake told me a little bit of information about Sauce and his baby mamas. And let me just tell you, there's some crazy shit going on. Like, that's all I said. I left it open-ended. I don't want to really divulge any information. And I didn't really think anybody would give a fuck about me saying that. That right there sent him into fucking orbit. Wow.

That's when everything, it just, from that moment forward, things just, I never heard the end of it. The phone call I got after those text messages. Ho, Lordy Lord. What was it like? Just, you're a fucking Drake, you fucking. bitch. They're fucking laughing at me.

Adam 22. It's just never ending. Right. And I was like, oh my God, here we go. And he just recently had a clip that came out online where he said like, because you leaked like a phone call that was like right after that or whatever. And he basically was like, I wasn't mad at her for fucking with Drake. I was mad about the fact that Drake and Adam were pillow talking about me using information

that was gained from you. I don't know exactly what information that you are talking about. I never really spoke too much about my baby daddy with Drake. And to be totally real, Drake didn't really tell me that much crazy shit either. Yeah, because our conversation, our relationship was not based around him. So your time spent with Drake was not spent talking about sauce walk up, but your time with Saus Waka at that point became primarily about talking about Drake. Jesus Christ

That's diabolical It is diabolical And he thinks my whole relationship With him was all about My baby daddy And it was nothing about Maybe we had one or two conversations about him You know

But it was nothing like In depth or Anything serious Or I didn't give him any tea On my baby daddy Or anything like that It was you know yeah i mean honestly if i had to like summarize the the gist of what drake told me about

him it was basically like he don't got money like that and this whole like cool player persona is cap fucking fake he's like a psycho he still calls me to this day asking me for money really yes and i'm like dude why but you have control of your only fans now i would assume yeah for sure and all of my money and mind you I have I have grown and evolved and I'm so much better now that I'm not in his life

and he sees that and he's like calls me he's like hey can I get 30,000 and I'm like for what dude like go buy some fucking diapers 30,000 what like why would you need to borrow 30 thousand? That's what I say

what the I thought you have $22 million yeah and he's like like taking pictures with like, looks like many hundreds of thousands or like a million dollars in cash and shit, which is kind of weird. Like, why do you have a million dollars in cash? I don't know if like the IRS would take interest in that or anything, but, I don't know. But, um. I hope so.

You would like to see him get audited? He needs to. Damn. I don't want to like speak that into existence. But they do, they do like a hotline where you like tell the IRS to investigate people and they'll like reward you. Oh, really? I don't know.

It's just an idea. I wouldn't do that, but I'll let someone else handle that. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do that. But, damn, so, okay, because in that call, too, he says, I will get Drake's car shot up. That was kind of surprising to me, because that's like a whole different level. Like, damn, you're like... Well, that's how he speaks to me on a daily basis. Just the constant threats of violence?

Constant threats, whether he follows through with them or doesn't, but it's constant threats. constant intimidation. And I'm like, there's me, I could, there's nothing I can do to a man, you know, like, I could slap you, maybe owl that hurts, but I can't hurt you the way you can hurt me. So yeah, I'm fucking scared. Yeah, I'm going to, okay, I'm going to back down and be quiet and do what you want. But yeah, that's constant. I don't think he would actually do anything to Drake because Drake moves like the fucking

president of the United States. You can't get through to him. Right. You know, like even if you wanted to. That's what I was thinking is kind of funny about the idea of shooting him Drake's car. It's like, well, if anybody's got a bulletproof whip and not to mention like a bunch of fucking security around him and all this other shit. Yeah.

Let's be serious. Like, you can't get through to him. He has, his security is like Donald Trump's security. Let's be for real. Yeah. Did you hear this story about like saw us pulling up on Drake while Drake was like out with a girl? Yeah. I think that was like in 2007.

So that wasn't you? Oh, this is back in the day. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. Because when Act told that story, I was like eight years old, yeah. Oh, okay, because Act told that story, and he said that, like,

Drake didn't have security with him, too. So I guess that would make sense, like, very early in his career. But I don't think Drake wasn't on in 2007, I don't think. I don't think he was, like, famous until maybe 2008 or something, but that period of time. Yeah, I think it was that period of time. I think, yeah, like 2007.

And, yeah, I did hear about that situation. Drake, no security. in 2008 or nine would be believable, I guess. Yeah, he's just kind of getting started. But damn, so that's insane, I think, that it goes back that far. Yeah. And honestly, I think the whole beef from my whole understanding and my perspective is I think he was just really mad that Drake didn't give him a feature.

And then from also my understanding is Drake never said no to the feature. It's just he wasn't going to do it on saucewalk his time. right and then got mad whenever he didn't get it whenever he wanted it on the song that he wanted it on and pulled up on him and did whatever he did and then now i think at that point drake is like you dude right i'm not giving you shit now yeah i mean any time you're dealing with somebody who's like important being pulled in a million different directions etc like when i talk to drake it's like wow i think it's cool that you're even like that you even trust me to even tell me anything that you got going on or whatever. I'm not like, you know, vying for like, oh, you got to give me a look.

Like, let me, let me do this. Like, help me on this way or whatever. It's like, if you're going to, you know, give me any kind of opportunity or whatever, that's great, but I'm not going to be being thirsty and rushing it or asking for it or where. I mean, look at, look at, act was, not glazing, standing, being a huge fan of Drake for like, you know, 10 plus years. And Drake eventually, you know, like, flew him out, took him out to eat, all this kind of stuff, whatever, like, gave him like a moment that obviously was like hugely advantageous to act's career but probably that wouldn't happen if act was like being thirsty and like you know begging him for a look you know and also my baby daddy just i feel like he has such a point to prove that he's this big tough guy

and then i felt like that's what he was trying to do to drake in that moment by pulling up on him and trying to intimidate him and i don't think drake is the type of guy to get intimidated right you know I don't think you can punk him into doing what you want him to do. Yeah, because he doesn't even give that. I think sauce, like, it's so important to him that he be like the toughest dude, the richest dude, etc. And then when he's faced with like his baby mama spending time with a dude who without question has more money than you and you can't do anything physical to him or whatever, he's just kind of left like floundering. Yeah. And then my whole thing is, is like, if he, quote unquote, sent me like he said he did, right?

Why are you, why is your ass tight about a car that he bought me? Right. Why are you so upset about it? Wouldn't you be happy? Like, woohoo, we just got a free Mayback. Right. Because that's how he tries to paint it as like, look, I sent my girls to get this money and these possessions out of Drake. and then I'm spending that money or that I'm driving these cars, etc., which, like, from a

pimp perspective, I guess that would be admirable, but obviously that's like the only thing that he can say. And then when we hear the phone calls, and then you're like, the bubble pops and you realize, like, oh, that's absolutely not what happened. Right. Yeah, it's not what happened at all. He was very intimidated by it, I think, and upset because, mind you, my baby daddy has never bought me a car.

honestly I've probably gone through three or four cars dealing with him because he destroyed every single last one of them He'll just like fuck your car up when he's angry Yeah Wow Yeah Don't get me wrong I got him back a few times

I'm not perfect Okay I'm not here to claim that I am But yeah for sure Right Because that's another thing that you posted Is that the girl that he's with now The redhead chick

I forget her name But she's like a white girl with red hair Redhead sweetheart or some shit is her Instagram. You posted photos of her. That she posted on Instagram. Oh, so she did post those before where he had like beaten her up or got her jumped as well. Was that eye-opening for you to realize?

Like, oh, shit, this is just what he's doing? No, because I knew. That's what he was doing. I mean, I can't be the only one going through it, you know? And, you know, I just knew. I already knew. I've dealt with it and she's been around longer than I was. Right.

So, and the few times me and her have been together in, you know, person and when we were trying to get along, because a lot of times he would pin us up against each other. She does this and you do this and she does this and she does this. And it was a lot of, he would make us almost be in competition with each other. So the few times that we did try to get along and get together in person, we, you know, exchanged a lot of stories with one another. Really? Yeah. Anything stand out about what she's been through? I'm not going to speak on her story. That's for her to tell. And if she wants to, that's on her. But I'm not going to speak on her. I can only speak about myself. But yeah, she's a lot of similar things. Because she hit me up a couple times and not like, right, right. She hit me up. I think to like tell me shit about him. Shut the fuck up.

I wasn't sure because I know that he like uses his girl's Instagrams to try to get people set up and shit. No. So I feel like because she like hit me up and then I was like, yo, what up? She was like kind of saying she wanted to do an interview. And then I was just like, what up? And then she like stopped responding. And I'm like, oh, okay, he got back cool with her. You know, he's never had any access to my Instagram ever.

Oh, okay. Never had a password to my phone that I know of. you know, but I've never given him any. So I could almost guarantee you that was her. Wow. Yeah. That's interesting. He's never in the whole, I messaged him on her DMs.

It's lie. It's never. And me and Drake didn't even message through DMs because I met him in person and I gave him my phone number. So again, a lie. So you still have the whip that Drake gave you or no? No, not anymore because my baby daddy absolutely. Absolutely destroyed it. That's like the ultimate car.

You got to destroy as if it was coming from him, huh? Yeah. Oh, man. That's fucking crazy. Sorry, my wig is itching. No, that's good. You know, just had to make sure it's not coming off or anything. For sure.

Okay, and so then, like, yeah, what had to happen that you decided like, I'm just putting all this shit out there on front street? Like, when was the last time you actually spent time with him? Recently. Because he always says, you know, mind you, I don't really send my child over to him too often for good reason. And the few times that I do, it's always some type of drama at the end of it or the beginning of it. But this last month, I was, first, his parents called me and was like, you know, y'all need to figure something out and y'all need to get

along for the baby. And so we want to see the baby and we want him to know his dad and know this side of the family. And I was like, I agree. And I called him and I was like, you know, let's just, let's try to put our differences to the side and let's try to make this work and let's just try to get along. And he was like, okay, so I sent Splash over there for the month in May. It was Mother's Day. It was my birthday. And I was like, you know, take them. If you want to see him, take them.

And let's just see how this goes. And I was in Hawaii for nine days for my birthday. And the day that I left, mind you, everything was great. Up until this point, I was literally packing my bags, headed to the airport, back to Houston. And he called me and he wanted to flex on me that he got his strip club back, Splash House. Is it open again? Because I heard he got shut down like right after it opened. It will be shut down in a couple of months.

Just give him some time. Why did he get shut down the first time? I don't think he could afford it or I don't think it was making money. Oh. Yeah. Because I know a few of my friends. went in there just like to you know party after hours and they went over there and they were like girl it was he was in there throwing his own money trying to make it look like it was something

oh wow yeah and i was like ha pathetic a few a few people sent me pictures of like the doors being like chained closed and this was like a couple weeks or like a month or two after it opened and i was like that's weird yeah two seconds of fame um but okay so then what happened like while he's got your kid and you're in a way. Yeah, so he called me and he wanted to flex on me and oh, I got my strip club back. Your baby daddy is the biggest in Houston. I'm the richest in Houston who nobody can shit on me now. That's basically the jift of the phone call was, is he wanted to flex on me. And then his other baby mama called him and he started, he flipped the script on me almost immediately and started screaming at me here. Fuck you, bitch, fuck you this, that, da-da-da-da-da. And she was basically,

you know, kind of exposing him on the phone. phone like, well, you do this and you buy three Chanel bags and, you know, basically going against everything that he says he is, you're tricking. Right. And I was like, oh, so you are a trick. And then that's what really set him off. And then from then it was just downhill. Really?

Yeah. And then, yeah. But you must have been tripping out because you're in Hawaii and he's got your kid and you're like flipping out obviously about like him potentially being an unsafe situation. Yeah. There's just so much stuff. It's crazy, honestly. Mind blowing.

And he was like basically, and I was like, well, if you have all this money to trick on girls, you have enough money to give your son. And I'm not hurting for money. You know, like I can afford my son no problem. It's just the fact that you don't pitch in and you don't do anything. And it's expected for me to pay for everything. Right. The whole month he was with his son this last month, his assistant was calling me asking me to send groceries to the house.

Really? Call, walk. He's got it. Like, why are you asking me for $200 for some groceries? Yeah. And I have the receipts on that, too. Like, even if you're watching this skeptically and you feel like, you know, maybe the whole pimp thing is cool or whatever, it's like, I don't think anybody should be defending. men who don't take care of their kids.

Yeah. You know, I just don't think, I think like as rap fans, as Americans, as human beings, that is just like the number one thing that we got to like really dismiss and talk down upon because it's just disgusting. And I think if I'm not mistaken, and the text messages that he was sending to you, he was like, Drake pays my kids bills. Is that a flex to you, Albert? Does that make you feel good?

That's kind of embarrassing. Really embarrassing. Yeah. Another man is taking care of your baby mama because you're incapable of doing it. Oof. Yeah, that's rough. God damn.

So, I mean, what is the fallout been? Like, is he still hitting you up? Because over the last few days, is like kind of when a lot of people really realized what was going on with this whole thing. Like the Drake thing, the baby mama dramas. He titled his new song, which I guess I'll promote. It's hilarious.

Honestly, I laughed so hard. I thought it was so funny. Yeah. No, he hasn't hit me up. I don't think he will. Okay. No, he hasn't. I'm sure he's probably afraid to.

Right. Damn. What do you think he's going to say when he realizes that you did this interview? Oh, he's going to be a fucking livid. Yeah. I find it hilarious. That's crazy.

From your experience, though, like, is he on some tough shit? Like, is he really out here, like, hurting people being a mob boss or whatever? Personally, I've never seen him put his hands on anyone other than me. Really? So I can't really tell you that. I've never seen him fight him in the other man. Yeah, I've never seen it. Wow.

I've never witnessed it. That's crazy. Yeah, I've heard him talk about it, but I've never seen it. I remember you, like, wanted to fight him or something, and he just went ghost and never even followed through with it, right? Right, yeah. Because I mean, listen, like I don't talk about myself as a fighter or whatever, but my whole thing with him is that like, he's a little dude, you know.

A little baboo. A little boo-boo-boo. I mean, he's just like a little guy. Yeah, sauce lobooboo. I was running with that for a little while there. Yeah. I mean, I just feel bad for like a lot of the sauce breadwin because I've hung out with the Rizzo Rizzoz of the world and all these guys over the years.

And like, I fuck with them. But then I like, I feel like they actually like a lot of the artists who I think have signed them over the years kind of end up in a similar position. the girls where like they get sold the world they're convinced that this is going to be this really beneficial situation to be in and then nothing ever comes from it right uh yeah so i remember one time he bought one of his artists a car um a mercedes like s 550 or something like that and they are they were so broke that they couldn't even afford the gas in the car wow they were calling other people in ts up like hey can i borrow 20 bucks i can get some gas wow and you're driving a 5060 000 car

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. It's embarrassing. Get them a fucking Texaco gift card to go with the whip. You got to do it right, man. Damn.

So like, all right, are you just, like, focused on moving on? I know you, like, keep exposing him and everything, but it feels like, you know, at a certain point, you're just trying to figure out what life is without this guy, sort of getting in the way of everything, right? Yeah. I mean, I would love to be able to co-parent. I would love for my son to be with his dad and know his dad,

but it's impossible. And then also it's just I don't trust what goes on over there. I know people like to have their comments on me. I'm a sex worker and I'm this and I'm that. But, you know, that's just my work life and that's what y'all see on the internet. My private life is nothing, like what y'all see on the internet. You know, I have a very peaceful life. When you say sex worker, you're like doing only fans.

It's not like... Yeah, like, and people want to blame me for twerking on the internet, but that's not who I am in real life, you know? That's just what I do for work. Right, because I've seen him, or I've seen you saying that when he does have your kids, that, or your kid, that he'll, like, be out until 4 in the morning, like, getting totally fried off lane and smoking blunts all around them and shit like that that you don't appreciate. Yeah. When Splash House was open, he had my son at Splash House. In the strip club. And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

And my son was way younger. Yeah, what is he? He's five maybe now? No, he's two. He's two right now. Two years old. He'll be three in September. Yeah, a one-year-old in a strip club.

Oh, Lord. And whenever I found that out, I was like, are you fucking kidding? You know? I'm like, he just, he's just, the thought process. Yeah. It's diabolical to me. It doesn't even make any sense. I'm like, whenever you die, your brain needs to be studied.

Yeah. To go, you know, to show in textbooks or something. Because it doesn't make any sense. No, that's insane. And his parents enable him. So. His parents. Especially his dad, yeah.

Really? Yeah. They just sort of don't tell him that he's fucking up? No. Mm-mm. Nope. Interesting. His stepmom is a great lady, but his dad is an enabler.

In his eyes, he does nothing wrong. I got to ask this. Was there any other rappers that were like his ops or whatever that he would always be talking about? Because I did notice that the beef with him and Honeycomb Brazy seemed like it got kind of patched up real quick. Like he didn't seem like you really wanted to push that one. As far as all that kind of stuff goes, I don't really keep up with that. Yeah, I don't really know. I can't really speak too much on that because I don't,

I stay out of that kind of stuff and I don't ask him about it. But I don't think he would ever be brave enough to really take it to an extent like that. Okay. Because I'm sure he would be scared to get embarrassed if someone actually beats him. If that makes sense. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, he didn't want five minutes. Yeah.

I don't think he would ever really get in the ring. If he does, I would be really surprised. Yeah. Yeah, it's a shame. Yeah, that's embarrassing. So, like, what would be your advice to girls out there who were being, you know, preyed upon by, like, him or somebody like him? I would just, I would first, if you come in contact with someone, look at the red

flags. Don't ignore the red flags. Go with your instinct. You know when someone is not genuine. You can feel it. You can see it in their eyes. As hard as it might be, the first time they intimidate you or put their hands on you or abuse you, leave. Cut off contacts and keep a stash of money to yourself somewhere. Don't give 100% of your only fans earnings to a dude. Yeah, keep a stash of emergency money. And, you know, the first time that they put their hands on you, call the police, make a police report, get a restraining order. Then they won't, you know, men like that, they're going to be scared to come back around. Yeah, because you seem like you're moving kind of cautiously.

Because even when I was asking you in the DMs, like, where you were staying, you were being kind of tight-lipped about it. Like, you seem like you've kind of gone real out of your way to remove yourself from. anything that might be involved in this situation? Yeah, I don't, I'm, you know, he's also in Houston as well. He has obviously a bigger name than I do. I'm obviously going against him. I'm obviously exposing him that, yeah, he's had people come after me before. Why wouldn't he do it again?

So, yeah, my location at the moment is private. No one knows where I'm at. For sure. Well, I mean, I just want to say that I appreciate you sharing your story, and I think it's important because like a lot of girls might get kind of seduced into thinking that this sort of dude is the kind of guy that they want to try to build something with. And in reality, I think, you know. It's right. What do you think it is. Yeah, you got to be more, you know, just be.

And you can't put the blame on a girl who falls into this sort of thing because they get sold a dream, especially when they're young. And they might think that it's something that it isn't. but I think, you know, you sharing your story is going to emboldened a lot of girls out there, I guess, maybe to, you know, have a little bit of self-respect that they might not otherwise have and realize that this is like an archetype. This is a type of dude who you got to be careful around. And also, I know I'm not alone in this type of situation. I know there's a million of other girls going through the same thing right now. Even if they're not a pimp, they're just an aggressive man.

in general, right, you know, that they can't get away from that, you know, you're just not the only one ever. You know, I sympathize and I get it in, you know, toxic situations. I hope everyone gets out of those. Definitely. So, you know, any plans that we should know about for the future or anything that you've got, that you're working on? I have a few things I'm thinking about that I'm trying to get started at the moment. But yeah, I mean, I'm just really trying to focus on my son and getting my life together and, you know, moving forward and trying to do what's best for me and staying away from him. For sure.

I appreciate you sharing your story. Yeah, thank you for having me. Thank you so much to Kylie. And anybody who wants to support her in her journey or whatever, head on over to her Instagram, which, we'll link below. Yep, only fans. Thank you. What's the Instagram underscore

It's Kylie? Yep. K-I-L-E-Y. Yep. Like the necklace says. Thank you so much. I appreciate it for real. Yeah, I appreciate you too.

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