No Jumper - Shady Avalon on 53 Avalon Crip, Doing 6 Years for a Body, Ant Jefe & More

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:38 We ain't this motherfucker. He hit me up and told me that we absolutely needed to sit down with Shady Avalon and do this interview and get his whole story out there. And I take your word seriously. So I said, let's make it happen. Oh, definitely. The show. So, okay, you go first.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Why do you feel like this was the interview to make happen right now? This big bro, he can make, you know what I'm saying? He makes it happen in that motherfuck, his main ring bells. You know what I'm saying? Niggas though for their self. So what niggas, you know what I'm saying? When niggas hear him, you know what I'm saying? They're going to know exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:01:13 All that shit the avalon, you know what I'm saying? Like he wanted them niggas that niggas talk about it for that muck and I was making it happen. I was making it happen in the jill house type shit. I feel like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? This whole little, whole little package type shit. Do you, uh, I don't want to go out of order or anything. I was about to just say, like, how long you've been home or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:33 But, all right, yeah, let's just go from the beginning. So, where did you grow up? South Central Los Angeles, South Park, man. Okay. What was it like coming up there back in the day? We didn't have as many Mexicans that we did now, but. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:01:53 We don't beefing no masks. We clicked up to play boys. Fuck with him. Okay. But so this was like what year? What year were you born? I'm 86, baby. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So you're like 39? 40. 40. All right. So coming up out there during that time period, was it crazy? Yeah, like moving around like with family, moms, you know, however that go. Wherever they, you know, Section 8, except we're going to go. Wherever I went, the set went.
Starting point is 00:02:24 So it was like born and bred, it was like butter already. Okay. So you were born and raised. But you had both parents? Yep. What was dad on? Dad, not front of set, but he born and raised over there too. So it's like all my uncle's from the set, aunties, cousins, baby cousins, girl cousins.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And so was the whole gang thing, like, right in front of your eyes, like, all the time? To a sense. It was inevitable, but at the same time, like, you know, moms gave me better choices. And you feel me, the motherfucker gonna go do what he wanna do. So your parents kind of warned you about the streets and tried to make you go to the straight? It ain't even no warning. It was like, I was already like knee deep.
Starting point is 00:03:06 You feel me, going to juvenile hall, campus placements, all that shit. Where did you first get in trouble for? My first one is assault, a deadly weapon, great body injury. You shot him? That young? How old are?
Starting point is 00:03:18 I was 12. I was 10 when I did it. I took the time when I was 12. You shot somebody at 10. No, I busted him down with a box cutter. What do you do to deserve that treatment? I got down with his brother first, broke his jaw. They kicked me out of school, and shit, we got out of school early one day, and I went up to my old school.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And we all walked to the high school to keep doing what we doing this when I was living in the valley and shit. And shit, I seen the brother they pointed me out like, oh, that's him. Like, damn. This nigga in high school, big. Mom's already like pick up something that hit their ass with. it. I whip out. Like, what you gonna do? You ain't gonna tell like nothing but your brother did. I'm already on probation like me. What's up? Like, he'd go for the steel. I go for the steel back and bust him down. He grabbed my shit out. So he had a knife too and he went to grab it?
Starting point is 00:04:09 No, he had grabbed my box cutter. Oh, he tried to grab it. And I cut the thumb to the index finger, all that shit, gripped it, just whoop you. That's how I started going viral like 10, 12 years old. Going viral? You mean like in the neighborhood like period everywhere I went camp I wasn't even official so it was like coming to juvenile hall you playing the shoe games all that like stick your shoes outside go to sleep wake up your shit gone you see a nigga with your shit on you like nigga get cracking like so it's like everybody tested me a little bit more and then it was like I had a choice to go 50s or the 80s okay I'm bred I'm born and raised with
Starting point is 00:04:51 young aunt and all them you feel me so tiny menace you name them I know them I got these niggas tattooed on me like you feel me so it's like I'm both like my 80s baby too oh okay yeah damn so you feel like you're like very very accepted in both sets for sure certified okay when you're 10 years old walk around with a box cutter and you're like super quick to pull it out and go crazy and also even just knocking somebody's jaw like breaking somebody's jaw at 10 that's like not having no control that's not having you feel me you already got rage you didn't lost both grandparents back to back. I just feel like most 10-year-old boys don't have the power to not to break somebody's job.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You gotta look at these. I know. And that's what I was going to say before is that as soon as I shook his hand, I was like, oh, fuck. Every single one, the bitch is broke, don't none of them match. My dad's six-four, so it's like I'm the smallest of all these kids. My mom's the smallest of his baby moms, too, though. Certain dudes are just like, they have like surprise power. Like, you look like a big strong dude, but like as soon as I shook his hand,
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm like, oh, like, that's a different level. And I didn't read. I don't know a butt. I heard of everything. I know a bit. I know a bit. But like, okay, when you look back at that time period, you can relate it back to like you being an angry kid that you were felt like you were dealt
Starting point is 00:06:10 a bad hand in line or what? So it's like, nigga ain't never had nothing to lose. When you ain't got nothing to lose, it's like, shit, you're going day for day, going for the gusto, you're trying to hustle, you're selling weed, you're trying to figure yourself out at an earlier age. Mm-hmm. You feel what I'm. So it was like by the time you catch these cases, now you're not no longer under guidance
Starting point is 00:06:29 with these parents and all that type of shit, you feel me? So when you weathering storms by yourself, you become like a mini man, not a man, because you ain't got man strength yet, you ain't really, you went through puberty, evolved yet, like, you feel me, mentally. So you're playing grown games at an early age, and it's like once you start culminating to whatever butterfly or whatever bumblebee you think you're going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be like, it's already setting stone somewhere else. already written. Yeah, it's like this time period in your life where you're supposed to be a kid,
Starting point is 00:06:59 you're supposed to be doing lighthearted things, you're supposed to be learning basic math and reading and shit like that. Skipping school, playing Y-A games, uh, uh, shit, hooped dissing hoods and carving shit in your hand, you know, try to, you feel me? Like, you know, I did it all, bro. It's nothing under the sun. Where, so how did you get caught for slicing that kid's hand over? Oh, shit, I tried to get back on my bike and gangslide. I'm going to try to get up out of there and shit. The police pulled me over, took me to the little police station, interrogated nigga and shit. Did you know to not say anything even then?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Way back then my mom. I was my first time ever even seeing white people when I moved out there. Really? You feel me? Like, I ain't never had a white teacher. I ain't never had none of that. I'm really like. So the cops were the first white people you really?
Starting point is 00:07:47 First white people I seen. No not to talk to them. No not to. You feel me? So it was like when they did what they did, it was like, oh, they found weed in my pocket. And mom's like, weed too?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Oh yeah, I'm like, shit, I wish I would have kept me in jail. I'm gonna get my ass beat when I go home. Like, I ain't gonna better hit her back.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, definitely. All right, so how are they able to actually put that charge on you just because there were witnesses and shit? Witnesses, all that. Witnesses,
Starting point is 00:08:13 I broke the box cutter and ran, but it was witnesses and all that shit. I did in front of the whole school. Damn. Like, that's one thing. Like, I've known for getting off where I'm mad at.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I ain't gonna lie. Like, I'm, I'm getting to it. I'm getting cracking right here. I ain't doing all that. Bend the coma. I mean, yeah, that's kind of like... Magical shit. It gives you too much time to think and think about what you're going to do to me.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Right. I mean, that's a weird thing in gang culture and shit, is that you're supposed to get off where you get offended at. Where everyone is mad at. Especially when I'm coming at you humbly, like a man, I've been so respectful and been bred by so many like real niggas. You know, five trades, eight trades, different Hoover sets, Like, you feel me? So it's like a couple neighborhoods too. Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:08:56 So it's like the way I'm combing it, you can't really find a nigga like that because you got to go through the steps and stages of all the prisons, institutions, facilities. You got to go through all that shit to become a nigga like me. You feel me? Some people are trying to do it off of, you know, just rubbing shoulders and, you know, taking a nigger and running with it. But you ain't really got the criteria. You ain't got the pedigree in the background.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like, you feel me? So it's like. Yeah, everybody's trying to get to the maxed out. The maxed out reputation without actually having to go kill 10 people to get it. You feel me? You want to be a power house. You want to be a millionaire. You want to be all these different things, bro, except for who the f you is.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You feel me? I don't do that. You feel about my walking around with 50 chains. I don't, you feel me? I barely do. I don't do interviews. I don't really do shit like that. But you feel me at the same time, it's like I'm me.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Everybody knows me. Right. But you were kind of brought up to not necessarily like think ahead. because the whole concept of like get off where you met at is like the opposite of what I would probably advise to somebody which is like if you have to get revenge on somebody or you have to like do something you should do it in a real low-key way
Starting point is 00:10:06 that is going to make it so that you are not likely to get in trouble. That's how white people think. Yeah, exactly. Okay. But that's white people think. That's not something that you were ever even thinking about it because it's more about pride in that moment. It ain't even pride.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It's just the eyeballs. It's the eyeballs that's looking. It's the, you know, what people gonna run back and say, you feel me? So when you, you're coming up, you're thinking how people feel, me, you want to entertain the crowd, the troops, you really wanna rally, you feel me, you wanna be the, you feel me, and it's like, I liked it, that shit,
Starting point is 00:10:39 the excitement, the circus clowning and all that. I was always class clown, all that, but get my work done, make you look stupid. I'm my shit really right, you still lagging back laughing with me, but you fell and I'm not, you feel me? So like, I'm a little, always been more advanced than my age bracket. But like we, we know how influenced young boys are by older boys, right?
Starting point is 00:11:01 And I feel like all the dudes who were telling you about life were basically putting you onto some shit that was just straight. It was just uncles. I'm seeing warfare. Nice cars. I'm seeing fine-ass, you know, bad bitches. I'm looking at, you feel me? Every time we go somewhere, everything all on them, like,
Starting point is 00:11:19 when I turned the hood, I'm thinking they was like, they're doing some crazy shit to get this shit. shit, they finesseers and, you know, they, you know, they're not enough, like, do they thing a little bit, like, you know, flocking a little bit, they was doing a little bit of everything, but I jumped in the, in the ball thing and it was like, it was over, I ain't going to lie. Well, wait, so you guys selling drugs right away? After I got shot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I never, I never had to sell no drugs, never yet. How did you get shot? How old were you? A young aunt. Ah, no way. How old were you? Young aunt. I was fresh 18.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Shut up, an 18-year-old aunt. He was about the same? I just beat my wife. A white commitment, came home, waiting on the settlement. I got down with the police in juvenile hall at 14. He bruised two of my ribs, had my eye, all my whites in my eyes, cherry red. And you were getting a settlement because they were too aggressive? I was going to get to lie and say that I had food poisoning to call my mom to get the social and all that to take me to the outside hospital.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And once they like did whatever they did and they took me to hospital, they're like, oh, bruised ribs, and you got choked out, boom, bam, like, you feel me, no kids did this. Like, you feel me, like, hang, that's how. It was a little short lady, uh, named Mr. Vantes, you feel me from 18th Street.
Starting point is 00:12:36 She used to work moving and control. We, when Silmar had the earthquake and all that, this is how long I've been doing this shit. Seymour had the earthquake, the building shut down and all that. We was, like, we had to move to a different unit. So they put, like, all the high risk or the HROs and all the different niggas
Starting point is 00:12:51 over there. Like, you feel me, A, B, EFX, they start putting this in different little spot central and all that. And I end up getting into it with the dude over, like some bunk shit. And you feel, I need to kick the tray on his feet. He's like, man, close my door, bitch ass. Nick, I don't go about watching TV, none of that. You're trying to trick me with trinkets and shit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Like, I'm not extra meals. And I don't get a fuck about none of that. My mama come up every week. Got hygiene, got food, get money in my shit. You know, I'm doing me. Like, you feel me? But the lady end up seeing me come from medical. You know, got to take me on my medical passes.
Starting point is 00:13:22 She like, I'll take him. I know him. I'm head down, not trying to say nothing. Still ain't trying to tell him nobody, no nothing. Show enough. She's like, look up at me, oh. Like, look one more time. I'm like, what's up, man?
Starting point is 00:13:37 She's like, nigga, we've been in one more corner. She went to room, whip out her little camera thing. Took like 80 pictures and took the SD card out. She took 80 pictures of what? My face, my ribs, all the little shit. Okay. You feel me and gave it to my mom that Sunday, like that Sunday that the visit came. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:13:57 My mom gave it to my uncles from the hood and all that. Lawyers, everybody came up there tripping. You feel me? They ended up giving me a house in order to go to Central. That's where all the homies was at. So that's where I became, like, got my name and all that shit for them. Okay. But how much money did you end up getting?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I got 70. Damn. I got 70 first eight. That must have felt crazy, right? Yeah, I gave my lawyer like a third, and then I ended up with like 70 after. Oh shit So it's like I'm already like
Starting point is 00:14:24 You know My uncles and them got money So it's like I'm thinking That's a lot of money Hell yeah For a kid You buy a card You know
Starting point is 00:14:30 Get the clothes you ain't You never had You know Look out for a couple Homes And so you blew through it Hell of quick Man that shit was going
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like six months Seven months Yeah That's what made me Start selling dope And like You know Trying to maintain my
Starting point is 00:14:42 You know My My facade and shit Okay But when you You said you got Sent to Men's Central jail There
Starting point is 00:14:47 How long? When After you got Beat up by the cops That was probably like shit I didn't go to Men Central until I was 18 Okay
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think LP and all that shit I beat all that shit up from 10 12 13 14 All over 17 and a half I didn't come home to 17 and a half Okay So once I I fought my Wai commitment Fawn my fitness all that shit
Starting point is 00:15:10 It was more or less like Should go to this little basketball A little placement You know Walk up out of there Get ready to chill You know they felt like remorseful a little bit You feel me
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'm up there still tripping doing dumb shit too, but I end up graduating and end up going home from that facility, end up going home on probation. So that's how I end up getting out, start going back to the 80s. My auntie lived over there and around in. How did you meet aunt? My auntie living apartments over there, where's mom stay at. So it's like when we go outside, go swimming, we used to go to Jesse on, sneak in there
Starting point is 00:15:45 and do all that type of shit. We've been like doing crazy dumb shit, like you feel me? So. And what kind of? dude, did you think of Ant as being at that time? Because the only reason I say that is because he always, like, on the podcast and shit, has been the most laid-back, cool, smoking big weed. But then there's also, like, rumors you hear about him from time of time.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And when we, like, really found out, like, what his name actually represents and means and shit. His name don't. His brothers do. I heard that Ant also has a second meaning. It do. It's an acronym. Yeah. And it's kind of a vicious one.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, but, you know, people make stuff up as they go. I've got disrespectful names, too. So it's like, I make them up as I go, who I'm beefing with at the time. And sometimes shit, you end up getting a little homie put up under him. But aunt, he always been quiet. You feel me, he always been cock strong as a man. He always been like, you know, a hustler, you feel me? I'll write hustler, you feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:47 And he, one thing about him, he don't talk a lot. So if he do talk to you with you, swap numbers with you, any of that type of. He's been real meticulous as a kid. He always been a little bit older in advance. Okay. But I grew up with tiny ant. Like me and tiny ant is day ones. So there's another aunt?
Starting point is 00:17:06 This is an NBA one or two? No. Tiny ant. Tiny ant is the other brother. Tony Ann is the big brother. Okay. And you got a young aunt. Then you got NBA one, then you got NBA two.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I know the whole family. Okay. Interesting. But so what were you doing? with aunt that led to you getting shot or whatever. We had a funny shit. We had a, got in tour with some shit called Hillside Vicious. Like a long time ago, they ended up turning all school yard or like Venet Showline or something.
Starting point is 00:17:36 They were like a click. Okay. You feel me? But we ended up getting to them when they was dissing the threes and all that different stuff. So we like, you know, we had plans to go to 7 to 7 to the Skading Ring World on Wheels and, you know, we're going to go bliss they ass. Like, you feel me? We're feeling like, we're feeling like we're going to make them choose up.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like y'all either feeling like, stop coming up here, y'all gonna really turn. We're gonna press them to turn school yard. Like, you feel me? We did it over there. And they're trades. We do it in the hood. You feel,
Starting point is 00:17:57 we don't do clicks. You know, it keeps the bullshit down. So we end up, mount up at St. Andrews, whatever. And like, the police just kept circling.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It was a carnival, though. So it was like, it's a lot of people up there, family over here, gangbangers over here. People still trying to find parking. It was a lot of, like, movement and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You feel me? So it was like weird. We all coming from foot locker on St. Andrews, getting our last little Like you feel me, whatever we need. Like, man, a nigga pulled up
Starting point is 00:18:24 and this is set right after we, right after I put my gun up, bro. Literally, right after I put my, I just set that down because the police drove by. We walk in, we like, yeah, the homie's gonna pull up with her and the nigga pull up. Pull up, right?
Starting point is 00:18:39 This is it. We like, you nigga is funny. The car cut off. When we fin of approach the car, you know, and aggressive, you niggas, young hog, nigga, woo, woo, we're an A-trade gangsters, ooh.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Man, that nigga whip out something. Old ass. When they first made automatics or something, we take off running and literally young aunt fall in front of me. And as I'm running behind him to take off, it's like I'm scooping him up like a baseball, like,
Starting point is 00:19:12 you feel me, he shoot me in the ass and blow my shoelaces off. So the head shot, he would have got, I took it in the back. You feel me? So after the, that just made us boys like right we ain't he like nigger that was crazy you could have just jumped over me and kept going like nigger that was weird like you feel me end up his homie had a spot and uh but that's the kind of decision that it's not like you had even one second to make that decision
Starting point is 00:19:39 it's it's a hundred percent it's out of being you already muscle memory of like how you feel about how we're hanging out already how we already like my common ground with you already you feel me that's why I really don't go a lot of places with niggas because I feel like I got to protect you hard and you're going to protect me. You feel me? I don't go certain play. I'm not going right here with this nigga. He's going to go to a magic party. I don't have a hundred thousand. I don't got, nigga, 15 Cubans and nigger, no draws on the day. You feel me? Like, it's just certain shit I'm not doing because I know me. I know how I party. I know how I play. Right. I know how I'm going to perform. You feel me? So, but yeah, he ended up, like, embracing me
Starting point is 00:20:15 after that, like, I end up working a spot with him and his older homie and shit. His homie seen how we used to work that motherfucker. And all he used to do was just bring bitches over and, like, you know, feed the dogs and, you know, push it through the mailbox. Like, he ended up going to camp going, and we parted ways for a little high second. And it was like, you feel me came back as grown men. So you weren't f***ed up too bad from getting shot in the ass? I was f***ed up for about three weeks I couldn't shit.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Couldn't shit. Yeah, that was when they put me on the shit bag. Damn. I jumped out to shower. And that, that, exploded like, like, soul playing. Boom. Boom, boom, boom. I called the doctor like, fuck you, nigga.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I'm not yet. But that was where my real psychosis came in at when it come down to gun game, never getting caught without it. And they got my real, like, feeling like I don't like neighborhood no more. Like, that's where all that came in at, like from the 80s. And I took it to my side of town. Damn. So you were just whiling after that?
Starting point is 00:21:15 For how long, good minute. Good minute. People's wilding for me. I'll sh-up. Okay, yeah. People's wilding for me, but that's where I got to give back what it was given. That's where my name starts superseding and excelling, because I'm jumping in cars with different people.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It ain't got to be no killings. It could be just f***ing shit out at a liquor store. You feel me? You feel me? Just putting shit on the map. I mean, it's kind of a different time for gang bang, would you say? Way, way, way different. Because you couldn't make a name for yourself on the internet.
Starting point is 00:21:45 everything's like real life. I'm, I'm, I, shit, I used to tag my chirp number on the wall. Kid me, I'll pull up right here and give you what you're looking for. Like, I ain't, this shit is, I ain't have aim and my space and all that shit. I was already in damn to go into prison by trying that shit came up. So you were hustling, you were more of a hustler than you were a gangbanger who was just concerned with balance and shit? At first. At first.
Starting point is 00:22:07 At first. At first, but it was like when you, I don't, me personally, I don't, if I can't sleep with it, I ain't going to. I'm gonna do something. I don't get a fuck. If I gotta text you 50 times to cuss you to fuck out, I don't, you feel me? It's like I just learned how to social media bang
Starting point is 00:22:23 with people. You feel in 2012? Like, that shit was funny just fucking me, like people chunking up shit, dissing it, tagging you in it. Like, it was just weird. It was crazy back then.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So it was like... What do you mean you had to learn it? I had to learn how to deal with people. How to deal with that shit. Like, you feel me? Like even now, you gotta learn how to deal with it now. That shit is like a, it's a drug. Right, because, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:44 that's why everybody's chasing. the next big content. They chase in the next big... But the biggest thing, like, it's such an old-head thing when you see somebody posting on Instagram and then you realize that they're responding to all the comments
Starting point is 00:22:54 talking shit to everybody. But go watch this. But if in the old school shit, like, or on some prison shit, you can't let them say nothing to you. So you got to spazzle them every time. It's raised on that foyer. I'm from gangster crypt.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So at the end of the day, everything I do is supposed to be in silence. You feel me? I'm not supposed to be saying, I know what not to say? I know what I do. I'm my own person. You feel what I'm saying? My part of game banging is I can I'm not saying it's over but at the same time I don't go over there. I'm not hanging out and tell yeah you Adam yeah come get to the set get put on we ain't let's go to the club
Starting point is 00:23:29 niggas gonna make some more money let's go you feel me I'm not I'm gonna bring these niggas to you we're not going to them you feel me so it's like it's a different mindframe and aspect when you're dealing with people that's cloud chasing people that really never had it never been you feel what I'm saying are people that that's already like, niggins, so I ain't going back. I really deal with them people that two, three hundred miles away and can dictate and direct and really gonna put some money in the potter,
Starting point is 00:23:55 gonna call you and tell you, hey, that was wrong. Hey, yeah, that was f*** up, hey, apologize and people, hey, tell them we gonna, you feel, me, bottles on us at the club next week or something. Like, you feel me, versus, yeah, them niggas, let's get cracker, nigga, yeah, and you ain't gonna participate, you ain't gonna, eh, bed, assist, you,
Starting point is 00:24:09 your sons, your kids, nobody, you feel what I'm saying? That's what I had to learn coming up in the ranks. And it's what a lot of these niggas don't know. Now, you feel me, present day, because they big homie is a nigga five months older than them. Oh, that way. You feel what I'm saying? They daddy ain't from over here.
Starting point is 00:24:26 They daddy from over there. They're mama really a gangbanger. Like, you feel me? It's like certain shit, it don't really add up to me no more. That's why I got to fall back because I can't bend or foe for certain shit. But you feel like the culture almost kind of... The culture is, like, left you behind where you just don't even give a fuck about It ain't even no left behind.
Starting point is 00:24:46 You have to adjust and adapt. Yeah. If you still wearing big ass, B2K ass pants and dress like criss-crossing all that right now, we're going to clown your stupid ass. You feel me? You take that fitted shirt off and put on the 3x tall and think you're going to put a blue rag on your neck right now.
Starting point is 00:24:59 We're going to clown your stupid ass. But at the same time, at your age right now, no lie, no exaggeration. For a clout, for any type of clarity, for some type of, you know, monetary game, you can get put on nigger of blood hood. You can go, nigga, whack, and go find you somewhere to get put on.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah. Brown all these niggins and did it. But I feel like nobody does that now. Like Chris Brown and Soldier Boy did it, but that was like 15 years ago. And now I feel like you ain't really seen that sense. And the internet scrutiny would be so crazy if you're like a celebrity getting put on a hood, right? Nah, it's really shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They say, I don't know. I don't speak on people badly, man. Yeah, I don't know who's. I try not to. I can speak on a couple of them, though. Yeah. I mean, I put on real late. Yeah, I don't know really.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But it just seems crazy to be like thirsty for that kind of approval. It ain't from that. It don't even matter if you got put on late. If you wasn't in the streets, the field, if you really ain't out there trooping right now to make up for lost times, you feel what I'm saying? I don't advise nobody to do it with all these cameras and nigger Tesla's driving around and recorded phone calls and pings.
Starting point is 00:26:04 The motherfucker ain't even up on electronics. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like you got to start like thinking a little bit different if you've been to be a real gangbanger these days. You want to know something crazy, though? I was having a conversation with the AI the other day just because I was thinking about this. And I basically said,
Starting point is 00:26:19 what percentage of murders were getting solved in the 60s versus today? The percentage is way lower today. It's like 60% now. It used to be like 85%. And I'm trying to figure out like why. And it basically said that like the internet and all this weird shit has like created a situation. If somebody gets killed,
Starting point is 00:26:40 it's a way higher percentage chance that it's a stranger. versus like in the 60s if you got killed, we could pretty much like figure out who we could have been. James Earl or somebody. Because you didn't know that many people. It was like your family
Starting point is 00:26:53 and then like the kids on the other side of town that you don't get along with but it's not really like, you just knew way less people. You know, you was getting out though. You feel what I'm saying? Because the motherfucker already knew you wasn't coming back to the hood.
Starting point is 00:27:04 We already knew after you told on them you was a nigga getting on a train and get the body to go to New York or somewhere. You feel what I'm saying? Now it's shit you tell right now I'm a nigga, shit, gonna D-P-U and nigger tell you, do a couple push-ups. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It's a different ball game. Like, you feel what I'm saying? That's where my step, little dynamics came with my hood. Like. So you're saying that people used to be able to do bunk shit and then just move out of town and just completely start over. You had to. You had to.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Before there was a witness protection there was, that's what you getting a f*** out of dodge because you knew the consequences of the law to land. They will kill you for show. I don't you, I don't you, you, I don't you, is a nigga come from the caucus mountains. We all on the set program. The rules don't.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You snitch in South Central. Your mama, your dad, you move to Lancaster. You're never going to see. You got to go further than that. Vegas. You got to see if that's what they was doing at first. Yeah. That's where everybody thinks it's smart enough.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You go to New York. You really never going to ever see anyone that you know. You got to go far. But now you don't have to go nowhere. You just, nigga, call a couple of your cousins from right there and, you know, probably buy a couple bottles. So, okay, what, you're talking about your situation with your hood? What was that?
Starting point is 00:28:11 I think I got a jail for murder. Okay, I do know about that. But can we talk about how that situation happened? It was just a lot of shit, dirty politic and, bro, like, you feel me? This is at what era in your life? 2018. This is like when I'm grown. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So it's like we can skip, we can skip a little bit. But you had done prison time already at this point? I'm on my fifth prison term already. Oh, at that point. At this point, I was on my fourth. So it was like when I caught this case, it was like, A in-house murder on one of my homies. And how did you get to the point where you had to kill your homie?
Starting point is 00:28:47 It was like, it was just a lot of dirty politics, a lot of kid games. You feel me? Like, I accepted a DP that I didn't have to accept. You feel me? For what? For getting money with, like, my outsiders and shit. Like, different enemy goals and different little shit didn't want to give up my opposition, locations or, you know, dirt, like, you know, double back on them to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Like, you feel me? Like, he didn't have situations. You feel what I'm saying? Like, they didn't call me. Like, because I give him. money with other niggas you feel what I'm saying they like hey yeah this nink got it got a hundred on him right now nigger on foals woo wham did a da da da I'm like send me a picture I look at the pitch I call this nigga ASAP bro what you got on the valour ball name suit right now you you're in
Starting point is 00:29:30 you in that truck you got that 30 on you oh nigger you you're gonna go me oh hey pull up on me first fool no facts on damn pull up on me first fool it's facts on the day show him the text messages just show them everything and then, you feel me. I'm gonna let you decide what you wanna do after that. You feel what I'm saying? But I'm just letting you know, look how full circle this shit is when you don't know nobody though. If I was just stuck in one little plantation,
Starting point is 00:29:54 you feel what I'm saying, and don't know nobody, that I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't have to help my homie. Right. I wasn't able to help no end. I wouldn't be able to go in, you know, do dirt different shit. I don't know where to see a bitch from everything. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like I'm two clicks deep already. Like I don't even, I'm young squad, murder squad. Like I'm original murder squad. Founder Young Squad, you feel me, so it's like... What is Murder Squad? It's a clique that started in early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Okay. It's like we got young guns too, but that's like all my God uncles and older homies. Okay. But, so your whole hood agreed that by you telling your homie that they were planning on robbing him
Starting point is 00:30:32 that you were f***ed up and that you needed a DP? No, that was this two different situations. Not two different situations. His situation was like, you know how I'm in the field. So it was like, you know, I'm stopping him. and it's over here, but by me getting money with other niggas and doing all this type of shit,
Starting point is 00:30:45 it became like a, I ain't gonna lie, I asked me for some money before. I'm like, who you think I am? I really got shit over here going on. I really got bitches, baby mob, nigga. I'm the face of this over here. The fuck I look like, you feel me? Like, it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit, but then once I seen where it was coming from and stemming from, it really wasn't that.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's like all the dirty mac in under the rug to cut those shit, you feel what I'm saying? So that's where I had to start, you know, doing my own, like, grown man investigation, you know, falling back on parties and, you know, really just, like, linking up with these niggas in different atmospheres and different little shit, you feel me? So it was like, once I got word and certain shit transpired, my house got shot up. And literally, no lie, no exaggeration. I just put my son head on my nephew body, and I'm like, what would you, what would you do with your son's right here?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like, so when I got into it the nigger, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, Got him to it once or twice first. You would just see him around and just... No, I seen him. He ride motorcycles and shit, you know. But he's not knowing I'm building... I'm baking a cake on him. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:31:52 I already got fed niggas sending me paperwork. I already got baby mama text messages with the freaky Fridays and... Oh, shit. You feel me? You're like... You're putting the info together? Wait, what? Make it add up.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He just... What, is that symbolic with the water bottle right there? No stew boy blue, right? Tuh. So, this is what a nigga, you feel me? So it's like, you keep on, egging me on. Like, you feel me to, and it just like, he said some slick shit to me, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And once he said, I didn't kay your house up. I said, K, I never told you. I never told my murder squad. Nobody in my clique, what type of caliber weapon my house got shot up with, fool? That was the tell-tale sign. Like, I fired this shit up. Just right then and there.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You just fired this shit right where I was mad at. Fire this shit up. Boom bang, we start fighting. Oh, so you're just fighting. We fighting and shit, once his little homie ran out with the pistol. Shit, my brother tried to, my snitch brother tried to break it up. You feel me? And shit. Once I've seen the gun, I went to the car, got mine.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Looked at him, he looked at me. Should, soon he came from behind the car, I used that. And did you even have a chance to get away or the cops just- I got away? I was gone for two months. Two months, okay. I shot that nigga 12 times. And you went on the run and the cops found you?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Went on the run. My little cousin ended up having a car accident on the 14 freeway. And like, you know, I checked my snaps and shit. I, you know, deactivate my shit to do whatever I was doing on the run. And I ended up seeing that and I called my family. And that's how they had some shit called dump records, a dump on my shit. To her like, you couldn't tap me because I'm throwing my phones away. as I go, you tapping people that you think that I will call or would help me get somewhere.
Starting point is 00:33:48 You feel what I'm saying? So they have like moms, aunties, cousins, exes. And that's where my brother came in at with that shit because he turned his phone over. Yeah. So they had all the messages, all the Instagrams. They already knew so the next day was at my house. You look that shit up. So you took it to trial or you just took it?
Starting point is 00:34:07 COVID ended up coming. I end up, once I got my discovery and shit, my murder book, all that, went pro per. It was, sure. I seen everything shit damn their day one after they flew me back. You feel me? It broke my heart. They had you wrapped up?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Like, shit. Seven people told. Oh, shit. Seven anonymous calls, four people told. Uh, and shit. And it was just, and it was all in-house. So it was like, nigga, I know your last name,
Starting point is 00:34:37 your first name. It's like, I can't talk on the phone. I can't really. And the guy, you know, so. Well, you were talking about your brother and you said my snitch brother. So are you saying that he told on that? I got a brother from that. Yeah, he told on this case.
Starting point is 00:34:48 He was the driver. Damn. So you not only caught this crazy case, but all of a sudden, all these people that you thought that you were close with and family even. Family lied about lawyers. I'm talking about homies. Lying about certain shit, too, trying to, like, you know, keep me calm. Like, it's like a lot of shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like paperwork by the galore. Wow. So how many years you end up getting? I end up, um, pandemic end up coming. I tried to bail out when they lowered the, uh, when they lowered the, um,
Starting point is 00:35:17 the little, the bailing and shit through the gas cone directive and all that shit. So I ended up bailing out on 2.8 million after I was making money and shit with foleaf and all the different little shit was going on up there. Wait, so you, Jay Hoods,
Starting point is 00:35:29 you bailed out before you even got sentenced. Way before. Oh, okay. So I tried to bail out. So I gave them the money and they, they posted my bill like, court happened like a Thursday, Friday. So we like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:41 out of the phone, we already know what's going on. Like, you feel me? If you get under $3 million, I'm out. And literally, Saturday morning, 9 o'clock, roll it up, Raymond Preston, get up out of here, bitch. And they get into the police talking crazy, all the little shit. You know, like, never you bailed out. Like, they come to the door and shit. Man.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Who had all that money? I was making money in jail. That's a lot of money, though. I made $120 in three months. Wow. That's for sure. I'm convicted all that shit. So it's like, you can make a ad.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You can look on my ground. I called with three cell phones, quarter pound of weed, 68 grams of black, steazy wax pins, flash drives. They caught you with all that in prison. In my cell, in county jail. In county jail. That's why it ain't no real movement, like certain shit that goes on right now, like,
Starting point is 00:36:26 ah, I started to and done. You feel me? After the bray situation happened, after I got out with all three of the bloods and all that shit, they let me walk around a whole county jail because it was going to be a whole, like, a wave because it was me. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:40 So I walked around the county jail, told the neighborhoods, told the East Coasts, told like the Grape Streets, told all the hub and the dub, all like everybody, hey, bro, it was good. Like I called them out. This will happen. Like, you feel me? Like, man, we just trying to implement like two phase and that's it. Like, you feel me? No matter where you from, you land in the wrong module, you're getting two fades.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You feel me? You can program. You can tell your homies you here. We can move you, however. Let's don't roll it up. You feel me. You don't get two phase. So when niggas speak on like different situations and like, you feel me, it's like, I laugh
Starting point is 00:37:09 because that's why I told her call me because it's like, nigga, I didn't run into you, niggas. You niggas ain't asked me for no fate, but I don't have no clout. I don't have, I'm not famous, I don't have no earrings in my ear right now. You feel me? Then I'm a little bit more aggressive. I'm not a celebrity, so I'm not thinking like I'm going to go home
Starting point is 00:37:25 next week. I'm thinking, nigga, time. Every time I go to jail, it's time. You feel me? Like, they just call me right now, like, from to raise my bell. So it's like, everything is time. You feel me? So it's like, when I'm sitting down, it's like, Nick, I'm already in beast mode, mad, because I'm already missing out on some shit. So it's like, I know the different mind frames that we're having in that thing.
Starting point is 00:37:43 So it'd be like, I don't really play people. I don't let people get close. I don't get close because I want to be here for a short time, not a good one. You feel me? But if we're going to have a good time, it's going to be on my terms and conditions. But like, okay, you're facing a murder charge and then you decide to have that many drugs on you in the county jail while you're waiting for your charge? When you're fighting a case, you're thinking they offered me 268 years. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Two life sentences. My first deal. So you're feeling like you're done. If it is, they tell them on me right here. If I can't get this shit figured to fuck out, I know what happened. You feel what I'm saying? I know I didn't never warrant nothing. I never came out the house like, yeah, I'm going to kill Adam.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You feel me? Like, niggins just happened spontaneously. You overstep my boundaries. We squabble. We could have left it at that. But once y'all start whipping pistols out and all that, it's like, come on, bro. I'm raised by you. What do y'all think it's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Nigger I'm going to choose me or you anytime. But so you got caught in the county jail before you got a chance to go to trial for murder for the trial for that so they was investigating once they hit the sale and found the dope and all that shit a nigga from a trade ended up telling them he was like jails yeah jealousism i'm making money don't know where it's coming from and uh he really was mad because i was dealing with the neighborhoods you feel what i'm saying so it was like like you know politics just trying to make money yeah just i'm just trying to feed my kids make money you know take the cheat off you feel me make sure i'm i'm good you feel what i'm saying if i'm be here i'm lining myself up with
Starting point is 00:39:07 maskans i'm doing everything bro Like, I really ain't. So do you have to go to trial for the drugs and everything before the murder? No, once they add charged me, I try to bail out. When they didn't let me bail out, they raised the bill to $4.1 million. When they raised the bell, I said all that waiting and playing and all this little shit, mind you got one nigga sitting in high power that's going to testify. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:30 So I pressed my prelim. You feel? I have a prelim for $18 months. So it was like, once I pressed for prelim, got it through that, nigga, everybody got on the stand. Do you see him? No. You don't see Shady Avalon? No, you don't know. No. Mexican lady got up there. When I drove by, I never told you I seen a face. I never. So all these documents and all this little shit is like kind of like fake made
Starting point is 00:39:50 up and it's kind of like to get you tried, but at the same time it's not strong enough. You feel what I'm saying? So when I'm starting lining my homies up and telling them like, hey, bro, you know, Frank Lucas, you know, who you told on, right? They like, yeah. Like, who? The police, niggas, and y'all, all the police. Like, stop playing with me. Like, y'all are all sitting there. They like, oh, bro, no, it ain't nothing like that, whatever. What are you saying? Sent the whole murder book.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Emailed the whole murder book. Sent it to a four yard, three yards, sent it to the street, sent it everything. So y'all think I'm lying? Y'all think I'm just making something up because I'm like misery little company or something. Like, what's going on? So they end up fake offering me a deal, manslaughter. Once they seen a prelim, then go in their favor, they like, this nigga, get out of jail, run again.
Starting point is 00:40:36 We, I never catch them. we like shit we'll give you manslaughter i'm like i'll take involuntary because i really didn't volunteer to shoot this nigga like you've in me so i end up taking that deal and then they end up giving me four years for the cell phones and dope so rank and current yeah four years for that and then how much for the body seven six six years i did six years eight months so i maxed up shit that's a pretty good deal all things considered huh yeah not bad yeah not so you do that and are you while in prison that time as well whole time like selling drugs as well no like I fell back like a little bit because I said I had a little
Starting point is 00:41:13 bit of money so I'm like I'm with dogs I didn't bought a gang of little micro bull dogs I didn't did like you feel me a little bit of everything so it was like on more or less like as long as I'm maintaining I'm just ready here to get a number maybe a TV sweatsuit and you know gang slide up out of here my first 72 hours on orientation they got removed a nigga really you feel me disrespecting somebody through the vent on some plan like the homie you like damn their raised you feel me I ended up getting them about the building so they already got a write-up for that so once I got to the line they already had shit fun me like man what's up bro you you mean kickback man woo-woof two months later I get called manufacturing weapons get caught putting handles
Starting point is 00:41:53 on some shit go do a shoe turn for that um about like shit maybe nine 10 months after that I'm programming decent like you feel I'm going to school doing all my shit the crippling blood right happened over a poker game You feel me? So it was like, shit, we had to perform. We have to do. I'm just there weathering the storm. I can't.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It ain't over till it's over. But are you getting time out to your sentence from all this crazy? I'm just losing it. The credit that I got, I'm losing it. So it's like the more I'm losing the credit that I got is like that's where the max day come in at, not so early day. So how many years you end up doing total? Six years, eight months.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I mean, shit. But you must have kind of been in there feeling like you got a really good deal. Like as much as it sucks to be locked up. Anything under 10, I told everybody that. I'm like, anything under 10, I walk it off. I ain't going to complain. I ain't going to, you feel, me? Like, I know what transpired.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I know, like, you feel me, I'm blessed at a certain degree. Like, you feel me? I even told Jay Hood the same thing. Like, you feel me? Bro, take that deal. Why are you playing with these people? Like, you feel me? Like, certain people.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Then being offered deals, bro. And, like, shit, they didn't already walk the time off that the deal was. By the time you look up, shit, nigga. They're talking about, oh, I'm going through the appeal process. You know, I'm trying to, uh, but you didn't walk off that 15. So now you got to do that 15 plus the five And then you're gonna come out and then you go over feeling You know a little angry and bitter about everybody not with you
Starting point is 00:43:10 Because at the end of the day we still with you But you was just miserable the whole time Right Versus going in there and doing programming finding something to do You know having a real set program Right Wait so do you feel like your neighborhood did enough Like you you sent out the information about everybody who told on you
Starting point is 00:43:29 But did you feel like everybody did enough to remove them from. No. That's a complaint I hear people make. When I say showed up to my court date, it was like the victim family, probably in the front row on the wrong side, you feel me, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:45 me mugging and all that. The rest of the courtroom was my immediate real family, moms, god moms, stepmoms. I can't say step-mine, my shit cuts me out. You know, second mom, like, you feel me, like certain shit, like the rest was all homies. Spectators, G-homies. and they don't come out.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Like, it was like some shit. They're like, man, I want to see. I read it. I want to see. Like, once they started, like, putting my brother, F.I. cards on me. They, like, you, y'all thirsty. Like, they, my lawyer was eating their ass up for, like,
Starting point is 00:44:14 a high second. Then she got cold on me. She kind of got cold on me at the end. But she, she ate their ass up. One gang, one gang expert got up there, say he, been knowing me for 18 months. We asked him, how long you've been working for Newton? and he like, 18 months.
Starting point is 00:44:32 They like, well, you know, Shady been in jail for 18 months. So how to, you, he's like, no, I just heard. I've been hearing, like, his stories or everything, you know. We got pictures of, you know, taggings and this and that. They show the tagging and all that shit. I'm like, that's my little homie. Them is, them all, like, littles. I don't tag.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I don't do none of that shit. Like, I've been working spots and all type of shit in my whole life. Like, you feel me? Like, that ain't, I do, but I used to. But so some of the people that, told on you are still hanging out right there in the neighborhood even after it was fully exposed right there to this day right there that's why i let them have it it's yours baby you can have you can have this right here this little chunk of land right here and i'm gonna have the rest of the
Starting point is 00:45:14 world i i accept that why do you think that people don't have the courage to like fully x a snitch out it's the shit that the game is so watered down now bro it's it's more or less like this was my immediate cousin oh no it's my people hold on bro you all no no versus hey no we just look I'm just give you the boot we just gonna you feel me
Starting point is 00:45:39 we ain't gonna get you killed we ain't gonna put you in the alley we ain't fin of you feel me what you got to stop coming over here you know cover your tattoos up and get up out of here bro live your best life it ain't for you is that how it was when you were a kid when I was coming some no some niggas and shit I got
Starting point is 00:45:50 it's on me and came up missing in my hood and you're laying on somebody out of here they get you up out of here but nowadays they don't even get it to kick somebody out and show paperwork and all that and they're not going to do nothing
Starting point is 00:46:05 do you think it's just because people got homies and they just my family is because I feel like I'm going to take something from it or I don't want to take that that penitentiary chance to you feel it needs to say something
Starting point is 00:46:15 but at the same time you're not understanding the shit that you're accepting right now is dictating the future you feel what I'm saying so if I don't condone it if I don't care if you did tell I don't, if you did tell
Starting point is 00:46:28 that's your prerogative, bro. Don't come back over here with the chest still poked out with the bitch, you're supposed to be tires out. Foe flats, nigger, humble pie. Like, I'm seeing the exact opposite. Nick what you mean? Like, nigga, you got me f*** because you can squabble because you really got a body
Starting point is 00:46:44 or two. You feel what I'm saying? Because your baby mama and your uncle or your daddy from over here, like you feel me, that's where the dirty poly chicken came in with this shit. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, hold on. As soon as I heard about it. I got something for that. Call in.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Squad up. What happened? Man, I already know how this shit go. You know what it's, you know what's going to happen. You know what's going to go on. Pull up. Pull up. Rip that up off and pull up, nigga.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I don't get fucking, nigga. We got two home girls, nigga, yank that back and keep the nigga throwing that shit until it go out, nigga. Pull right to fuck up, piled out to all them Cubans and got cracking. When you, when you got out,
Starting point is 00:47:27 were you planning on, like, really in your life this time around? I did it. I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. It's just I got- And what year was that? I came home in 2025. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Damn, so you fresh out. I came on 25. But I ended up catching a violation, turned criminal threat, got dismissed. And then shit, I ended up catching the assault, got my truck got wrecked in Riverside going up in pool party, they trade pool party. Um, shit, I got jumped by some Mexicans.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Whole fan, it's on Instagram. For real? I jumped out some Mexicans. Why'd they jump you? Shit. One went to sleep. I ain't know that two other cars is his family. Wrong place, wrong time?
Starting point is 00:48:06 No, I got cracking. I ain't, never a wrong place for me. It seemed like the wrong place in the wrong time, but then you overturn that? I got cracking. Yeah, I got two bills right now, so it's like I ain't... Oh, damn. I'm trying my best.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You feel me? I do everything, you feel me? Oh, okay. Duty supply, nigga. I'm trying to do my merch shit right now. I ain't playing. Like, I'm trying hard as a month. Is it hard to leave the streets behind to a certain extent?
Starting point is 00:48:33 If you really want to, it's not really, but it's just more or less the cross-talking is what you're familiar with. You feel what I'm saying? You ain't been a civilian, and it's like coming home from the Army. You ain't been a civilian and walking around no thonged sandals, and I don't know how long. So it's like every time you get up, I'm just now learning not to, like, have a gun with me all the time. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Since I've been shot by it with that's the first situation. I ain't been shot since.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm doing the shooting. Pull up on me, nigga your car, I'm gonna blow your back lights out first. Yeah. Do any extra, I'd rather accept the back lights being blown out
Starting point is 00:49:05 than your head being blown off. But if you try to bounce out, your shit might get blown off. Yeah, I mean, that's the ultimate trick bag that they put you in in L.A. is that the dudes that you know
Starting point is 00:49:14 who got felonies who absolutely don't feel comfortable not carrying a gun. But that's a scary shit. That's where you got the little homies foe. That's what you got, the home girls
Starting point is 00:49:26 and all these different you feel me? So it'd just be like it'd be weird now, bro. It'd be real, real strange. Wow, so this is you beefing with like fighting like a whole Mexican family. I beat the shot at with one cell phone.
Starting point is 00:49:40 The girls like coming over and kicking you and shit. They snap my hand. And this is a fingers touch my wrist, and this is 2025 when you were like fresh out for real, huh? How does this even happen though? Like, why'd they run down on you?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Like that? He was trying to like fake swap in from. with me, but he was like, hey, let's take it to my people shit, whatever. Oh, okay. I'm like, nah, nigger, my truck brand new. Like, red guts, I'm over here hot. Like, all I got is gap insurance, nigger, like, what the f***? He's like, yeah, oh.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Soon as I'm like, bro, call the police. I'm still, you know, institutionalized. I'm like, I can't call 911 on this one. I know the number, but I don't, like, call the police on your shit. You feel me? Like, I'll stay right here, the car in my name, so it's like I really would have just walked off if it wasn't. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:50:26 like kept on posturing up and shit the niggas slapped his thigh two times I parked him slapped his thigh he like what are you like and you just didn't like that as soon as he tried to go for my show's already coming full steam
Starting point is 00:50:41 yeah soon as you try to go for it it was already budding boom why do you think people try you because I look like a baby I'm not walking around crunchy ass face I'm not theatrical I ain't loud boastful I just gained this way
Starting point is 00:50:56 If I was a regular guy, I think I would look at you and be like, nah, I'm not gonna fuck with him. Nah, they- Also, if I was just me right now. Because the way I dress, it'd be in a little bit of everything, bro. I really, like, I'm cool. Like, you wouldn't even think I'm a game bang, because I don't bang on niggas. I don't do none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:51:10 All right, you ask me where I'm from. I'm giving you the extras. I'm little or nothing. I'm gonna really flex like a gorilla. I'm gonna do all that shit. Give you to murder squad crib. Like, you feel me? I got a disrespectful name, too.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Like, I blow your ass out with that. But it just be like, I'm so humble pie now because I see it ain't got a nigger nowhere. You feel me? Everybody that is trying to be theatrical ain't got my stats. Turn your baseball card over. You ain't even gotten a game yet, fool. You'll never make the All-Star Team.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Wait, so you mentioned a couple of different names that we're familiar with, including B-Breys at one point in there. That's my boy. That's your boy, but did you have a squabble with him at one point? Yep. Where did this take place, and what was the vibe? In the county? 4,800.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And how to go down? We, uh, gambling. We, uh, we, I gamble a lot. That's one thing about me. I, my, my, my, my, you look at my face. I got a cold poker face. Mm. You feel me? So we gambling this shit and, uh, me, lefty, photos, gangsters, uh, tass from 9-7 gangsters, uh, braise,
Starting point is 00:52:14 D-boy, uh, blackie, and maybe like one more person, you know, as people are standing by and all that shit, but it's like 25, a buy in, you feel me, and then keep on going, you diso, you got to get your items back or however you got to pay up or, you know, Green Dot cat, however you're going to get it, you feel me? Man,
Starting point is 00:52:33 one of my homies end up going down. I told him get the fuck out the way. I'm up on paper, Braise's up on paper. I'm trying to get the whole, I want everything. I'm not a, I'm like poker world poker. I want everything. I want the whole pot.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Braise, like, he clear himself. He like, once he started going down, you're like, I'm going to take my extra credit. I'm going to clear the homie, whatever we went. So now I got two. two more bloods right here, D-Boy and Blackie. But now I'm playing against both of you niggins. Frazes walking around the table,
Starting point is 00:53:00 looking at the hands and all that shit. You know, he's making little move, like, sheesh, and, like, different little comments. I'm like, hey, bro, start me out. He stopped. You feel what I'm saying? But when you fold your hand, this nigga, like, looking at your hand
Starting point is 00:53:15 and, like, y'all looking at each other hands to, like, basically go against me. And I know that that's how it is already, but don't make it obvious. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So I am playing. I said, I said what I said.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Like you feel like me? I'm like, hey, bro, can y'all please stop doing that? So I said all in. I had a bunk-ass hand. I said all in. I'm probably like $140 plus on the paper already, plus like 200 and chips. You got probably 75 and you got probably 125. I'm an all-in both of you niggis.
Starting point is 00:53:43 We playing wild car games and all type of shit, call your own hand and all the little shit. So it was like we end up having basically like six of a kind type shit. all of us. We all had a seat of a kind. Nobody chose of a higher one. Nobody, you feel me, all end up matching up some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Like, you know, this nigga end up doing it again. Showed the hand. I said, Brage, tell your homies, bro, I'm not fend to keep on asking. Dead homies. He said dead homies back.
Starting point is 00:54:10 What that mean? Oh, bro, we ain't got to do all that on the set. We can just get down. So when a nigga, like, it's whatever. I rode the shit, the whole little sheet up off the table, rolled the poker chips up,
Starting point is 00:54:22 told everybody they clear. You feel me? And hey, first sale, we're in there. Nicka, hit the dough, told the police rack the thing. I run the module. Hey, write this dog. I'll tell you the door rack.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Put this tissue right in the door, make sure you can't jam me up in there and know nothing. He don't know how to do all this. He don't got juice for all this. But I put myself in these type of situation because I know I can get the fuck out of them. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:47 So it's like, I got nine homies in this module, 10 homies on his tier. You feel me? Little sooty resting piece. A, Trey Gaines said, that was my co-defendant, 100 days, 100 nights. Oh, so do you feel me, zigzag. The homie from Southside Village. Ray G. from Grape Street.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Shit, Greyhound, A. Tray Gang. I can name them. So these are all people that f***ing with you, and they're in there? And they're right here. They're officiating you and Bray's squabling? They right here. Bray's not even in a part of this squabble. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Bray's not even in this. Oh, okay. Once I told the two niggas, y'all keep cheating me. I'm going to get out with y'all. Oh, you fought them? I'm getting out with them. So when I go in a cell, Dee Boy getting there first.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Like, man, let me get down with blood. Mind you, I'm already sitting in this module. Y'all, all sellies. I know how y'all playing these little tricky card game. That's why I keep switching decks. That's why I keep on doing certain shit. You can't trick a trickster. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:55:38 You can't all slick me. I'm nickel slick. Like, you feel what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm watching y'all play the little card games, but I'm like, this is not even on the next hand. So y'all are going to be going against each other. Or I'll just fold and just let y'all go against each other to see how the money shuffles and rotates.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You feel what I'm saying? So I go in there and get down with Dee Boy first. He like, let me get him. We square off. And once he sees me pill out in my karate body, he like, oh, hold the fuck up. This ain't no little boy. This ain't no little boy. And I parked him.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Boom, bam, boom. Made the phone ring. The ring. Phone rung into county jail, bro. On gangster crib. Next. The nigga Blackie come up in there. Six-fold.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Big old black bitch cocky. talking about green mild looking at this nigga. I'm like, you already know you're gonna get dug out, bro. I just watch you get down with a nigga, too shade from 40s, nigga and two shade light skin and little. But he got stupid, he got a YA squabble. So I scur off with him, I never switch no water, never do, no, you feel me, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Next person, we get in there, get cracking on him. Once I'll take him to a knee, Bray's like, kind of like, don't hit the homie while you down. I flex on him like, don't touch me and I pushed him. That's where it triggered him. So the homies, like, don't touch the homie then. Like, you feel me one of them, they pull him up off me. He let Blackie up, whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I'm like, you kind of like flopped right now, fool. I didn't really, I even, you feel? I ain't really, really, I know my hits. Like, I'm grown now. Like, you feel me? Man, I get cracking on this nigga again. Once he, like, hit the bed, I elbowed his eyebrows off. Both his eyebrows, both of the motherfuckers came off.
Starting point is 00:57:15 He's like, man, get this thing off me, blood. Help me, blood. On lanes, get this, nigga, blood. Bray's like, nigger, watch y'all blood. Nick, that the home me up. I said, he keep on getting on the ground. I'm straddling him. Like, we might as well just, I told you, I don't fight regular.
Starting point is 00:57:26 You standing up, I'm going to kick you, whatever. I'm not in my hands is f*** up. I'm not, I got nine, 10 punches in this one, about 45 in this one. I got about 35 knees. I got about 16 elbow. I can count my shit through whatever I'm going through. You feel me? It's like when you're playing tech into something.
Starting point is 00:57:42 You know what I mean, Mom? I, you get you got and all that year. You got your stats? You know your stats. You know what you're capable of right now. Wow. You feel me? So he ended up skipping up in there.
Starting point is 00:57:51 He's like, you ain't gonna do the homies like that. And I never reset it. And I really did get out with Blackie more than one round. So it was like, okay, I'm kind of winded a little bit. But I'm like, this little frail nigga is not gonna give me. I watched you fight before. Like, he got the same little cockfight, like, came in there, he can't really see.
Starting point is 00:58:07 He took his glasses off. Came in there and skipped in there. Like, what's happening? We got cracking. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Once I see, he's just going to, like, try to just lock up to say he got down with me because it was really another blood. They were like, nigga, get your ass in there.
Starting point is 00:58:21 He really did. So, another nigga off the top tier. Like, nigga, what you doing down there? Nick, Nick, get your ass up in there. Niggas, nigga,
Starting point is 00:58:26 running through the homies. He got up in there. He got up in there. I started, like, hit me. I slang him, hit him back. He hit me three times. I slank him,
Starting point is 00:58:34 hitting him back. Like, I really wasn't, like, trying to go there with him. But it's like, if you're going to get up in here, I'm going to show you that you, you met your maker. Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:58:42 But I ain't really gas him up like that. I ain't really gas him up like that. I ain't really gas. It built our relationship too, though. So y'all were cool after that? Yeah, we was cool after that. We all didn't blew up the blood module after that. He was right there.
Starting point is 00:58:53 He ended up D.P. Blackie ended up getting D.P. For not wanting to fight me again. Oh, shit. When he came back from the hospital, he told everybody who was going to bust on me. Damn. That's a crazy one.
Starting point is 00:59:02 So next day, we end up having a riot. Mm-hmm. Because they told the D-Boy, he clutched on me and Blackie dissed the set. Blackie went to the hospital. Deboi went to cell. We ended up trying to get the nigga DP or whatever. He came on a tear.
Starting point is 00:59:16 They tried to, like, ambush me, close the gate on me. I see this shit happening, but I'm like, damn, I got my shit on me. So it's like, nigga, now I'm posturing up. I'm like, yeah, woo, ma'am. Once I tell him, hey, the nigga said this, woo, woo, woo, he's like, they ain't say. Knock him right out again. D-boys clinked up, step over him. I had a police open the gate.
Starting point is 00:59:35 May, wait a gate. Nick, homeless, open the gate. Like, oh, it's you shady? Yeah, close the gate behind myself. Now I didn't win and told the homies, and got my shit. So why they walking up? off the one tier to the other tier was like, it was a crash.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Like, Nick, we supposed to did this yesterday. When I had nine homies on the wall when y'all thought y'all were lining me up. You feel me? So that's how we end up getting a little two-and-done shit started in the county. Word. What's your history with Jay Hood?
Starting point is 01:00:03 Jay Hood. I met Jay Hood a long, long time ago. Just hearing his name, it's not that many Stevenson's. You feel? It's like I had an incident in Ironwood. 2012 one of his older homies. I knocked his older homie out. They had packed me in my cellie out of five on two coming from Mississippi.
Starting point is 01:00:25 He was getting like a layover right there. We got into it over a shower. We whooped them, niggas ass. But when I met Jay Hood, he saved him from Stevenson, I brought up that situation. And he like, man, my older homie, that's like my uncle, Nick, he told me. So once he heard my name and she was like, Nick, I'm hearing your name, but I'm thinking you more like my age. You feel, I'm saying? because it's not really more,
Starting point is 01:00:46 it's not that many young niggas move around like that. You feel me? Like once it gets to like NBA 2 in them era, I don't even look at it no more. I don't even, you y'all smoke the fuck out, look stupid as fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Ain't really out here game banging. Y'all like party crips or something, party bloods or something. You feel me? See you at the concert type niggas, you feel me? Funerals. But, so was Jay Hood really beat me up in there?
Starting point is 01:01:10 I think he said he was 205 at some point, right? Jay Hood. Jay Hood whoops ass Yeah Jay Hood I tell you though He can't fight He does say that
Starting point is 01:01:24 Yeah He can't fight He hits hard as a And he could take a punch Right That considers you a fighter You feel me Because you're not
Starting point is 01:01:32 Getting called out And losing Or you're not They don't You really coming in there Like you can fight And really just Learning how
Starting point is 01:01:39 Like you feel me But no He didn't have so many Squabbles To where now He knows how to pay attention To your feet work And
Starting point is 01:01:45 No choose his punches differently because he used to be like a just I hate hard I'm just going there and take a punch until he got his ass swirved got his ass spun out before yeah because he said that he has been shot mad times and that that that's just that's just fissippers that's him up got zippers all that so he can't really like fight good like he would have when he was younger like his stomach is tight and then he'd be so fat in jail so it's like you feel me be so like you feel me just like just tight we said he had six-pack before that stomach which is crazy like I I felt worse for him when I heard that just to be like, damn, you had a six-pack?
Starting point is 01:02:18 For that zipper. That's crazy they took the six-pack from you. Yeah. He was playing sports and shit, so you already know that. He comes from a cold. I know it's pops too. Yeah. I know it's pops too, studded boxing, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 So how did you feel about the situation the shooter had when he was locked up? It was, um, I already, I got, like, about five hours after it happened, I already had the text message in the phone. I already got it. Like, that's how I kind of felt like it was some bummed. So when Anne had called me or whatever, he like, man, you know, this just happened with transpire, you feel me, how you feel about this, whatever. I'm like, Cud know what he signed up for.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You feel me? And he know how to respond. He know how to do whatever. Like you feel what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, like if it happened, it happened to a gang of people. You feel me? It just makes him more, he's more of a celebrity. So it's like he, it got out there a little bit faster.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You feel what I'm saying? But when it comes down to niggas getting booked, Rob, niggas shit, Draco, you name them. them. They didn't, I nigger rap books, earrings, chains, bracelets, it happens. You feel what I'm saying? It's just when you subject yourself to certain things, you feel me? It's like, I would unscrew my shit or like, you feel me? Like, I already knew because shit was f*** up. You feel me? I already knew it shit was f*** up. But once I'm like, nigga, that ain't no excuse. It's like, that's why I'm like, bro, this is what you signed up for. That's where I'm like, man, I am not. I don't get a fuck. You already know. Call me right now,
Starting point is 01:03:43 or whatever. I seen a little interview with whack and that's when I'm like, Nick, you ain't tapped in yet? He's like, nigga, I'm just, nigga. I'm just people calling my phone, nigga, what the fuck, nigga? I'm like, all right. Gave it a minute. And then he's like, nigga. I'm like, you already know, brother. Dead homies. Get ahead of it. Get ahead of it.
Starting point is 01:04:01 You feel me? If you really want to get ahead of it and really bring this games and shit to the internet like they want to to, she let them record it and just go hard on dead homie. I'm putting big shit on you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to tell you. I'm putting big shit on you. Did you not appreciate that I feel like cartoon was the one who announced the DP to the world? Carl, yeah, cartoon.
Starting point is 01:04:20 He called me, though. Okay, he talked to you before it. He called me. He talked to you type of shit. He was just trying to basically like, you know what I'm saying? Let niggas know, because niggas be trying to pop it like, oh, they don't hold the homie accountable for certain shit, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, when he holler at me, I'm like, y'all understand, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:37 Like, oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, another niggas, they don't know what's going on, you know what I'm saying? But cug caught me though. Like, you already know what you got to come and shoot. I'm like, I'm going to hear like your arm up. I already know, nigga, you know what I'm saying? You should be popping out of socket. The homie's going to be there.
Starting point is 01:04:49 That shit going to pop out of socket, nigga. And on Avalon crap, how they're going to slap it back in, and you keep going to get that shit over with. That shit, that's what happened. Oh, nigga, get a baby bottle. Yeah. Put that baby thing up. That baby pop, pop, pop, pop, and put that up because I know you get mad.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And nigga, pull up. It's just part of life. It is what it is. At the end of the day, it's not really even for the streets to the internet, bro. It's grooming. That's what niggas don't understand. I'm cool. If you still saying you game banging, this is your image on the internet, nigga,
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm still at my age and I'm still holding up. I'm full yard banging. You feel what I'm saying? I can show you all my paperwork. I can show you every crime I ever committed. I can, nigga, I can play the game with you. You feel me? I can put, nigga, paperwork on other people where I can show shit, I can say shit about people, nigger, all type of shit. That's not what a nigga
Starting point is 01:05:36 here for, you feel like, you feel me, to show you that you feel me, to show you that you can change, you can do something different. You feel me? Can't go do this And then you feel me? You can't. It's called recreating. It's called culminating.
Starting point is 01:05:48 You feel what I'm saying? So it's like once you elevate and you start thinking about cars, these kids, all these kids you didn't have and the prison terms that are and did and all the receipts you got, it's like,
Starting point is 01:05:58 nigga I'm going for the bag, bro. The bitch, that's all that's going to come with the bag. You feel what I'm saying? That's why I tell all these little niggas go get a bag. You got put on the set?
Starting point is 01:06:07 I liked him because he had money. He liked to go get money. Your name baby shooter, you're under my. His big homie is my little. His little is the big is my little. Little famous store. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:06:18 So it's like, I'm not fin of sit here and tell you go do something that I no longer do, bro. I'm getting a bag too. When you and your truck and you need these Porsches and all that, Nick, I'm in X-5s and I'm doing my thing too. Nick, I'm in cutlasses, Jeep bodies, and I'm pull up, nigga, come with me. Like, nigga, I'm going to show you.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Like, nigga, it's a lot more to the streets than right here than pull it with a barrel or bottle and hanging in the set, ladies, niggas, nigger rip you the shreds. You didn't got drunk and paid for two rooms. and you ain't even fin to stay here. You got a whole house. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:46 So it was like, I'll be trying to tell these niggas to go get a bag. Like some people can work. Some people can really go do a lot of different shit. Some people got talents. Yeah. Some niggas can wrap. I see, so you didn't believe I had a million dollars on. Some niggas can wrap.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Well, I asked Wack and Wack confirmed it. But, yeah, because I was just like, I don't know where that money would come from. And then he told me it was because of that one thing. I had a million, I had a million dollars before that. Oh, for that too? No, like, I'm talking about back then, though. Oh, all right. Like, we didn't touch millions off the streets.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah? Hell yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna say, like, I had a million to myself, but I didn't see the million dollars, you know what I'm like? I don't probably don't know. I mean, shit. Before YouTube, I definitely didn't.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Yeah, yeah. You're having that shit, man. Oh, man. But how did you feel about the situation that N. The N. The end of the situation that N. Heems to have got himself caught up in. It's hurtful, man.
Starting point is 01:07:37 When I know that's my brother, bro. You feel? That's my real brother. When I got in my situation, he's like, nigga, whatever you need, I got to. Like, you feel me? Brought me up here on one of his little skits. Like, you feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:47 You're trying to show me something different, but it's at the same time it's like a nigger fall victim to circumstances. My shit happened in five minutes. I wasn't in my hood five minutes. I could really kind of, nigga, pick up some money, nigga swap a debit card out with the next. And by the time you look up, I said what I said. You said, we fight him.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You feel me? So it's like, I can understand a nigga, going to go get something for the family because he's so family-orientated. You feel what I'm saying? But that's where I'm telling him, like, nigga, that's where you got this, you got this bad bitch, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:16 You feel me? Come on, you got baby mama. You got, that's what the woman felt. Like, I understand that you're the man. You don't want her in certain areas and all that type of shit. But when you become a certain statue, they don't put that shit everywhere.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You ain't going to see a Lincoln sitting up a nigga in South Park. You ain't going to see a nigga Martin Luther King sitting up at no jumper? They put them in certain places. You feel what I'm saying? So when you consider yourself a certain figure in, hey, I'd rather do you.
Starting point is 01:08:39 door dash that shit, fool. You feel me? But I can't really say that your circumstances is no different to anybody else's. It's called a victim of circumstance. I'm still doing this. I still got this going on. My name is this,
Starting point is 01:08:52 but at the same time it's like, but what I'll tell you about my discovery? Open that motherfucker up. This ain't right. This ain't real. They line about this. They over exaggerating this right here. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:09:02 By the time you look up, the motherfucker gonna get a lower bell. Be sitting right here back at this. I'm all, yeah, bitches, I'm back. You feel me, with more to even more to say because I feel some type of way. I got tricked out my position before. I was fixing cars and working at a tattoo shot.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Right. You feel me? Chilling. I'm not bothering nobody. When I do come to the hood, it's a bottle, it's a function. We all, nigger, taking pictures. You feel me? We all look good.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Homies is proud. Like, now you go over there right now. It's just a whole lot of fingers twisting, standing around on the corner, no spots, no nothing. I'm not going to tell this nigga, So, hey, give me $10,000. I'm going to go get it to the homies. You get me 10 bands.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'm going to go get that a storefront somewhere. If the niggas have enough gas made to make it over there, then you feel me, you can patronize and, I believe $20 in your pocket, you patronize him. You can sit in the front of the lobby, do whatever you want to do all goddamn day. You've got to hide out on this. Right. Get the fuck away from me.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Come on through every day. Because, like, the whole street dream is kind of dead, right? Bro. When a rapper can see you and tell you about a drill better than you, and you vibe into that shit, something wrong with you. Right. But I even mean just like the Coke selling dream that they like sold to us in music. The real people that you think is selling Coke, it's a facade that they put in on.
Starting point is 01:10:19 They really probably, and they got a telemarketing jobs where they got a cyber tech company that they're doing right here. It's a facade. You got football players want to look like rappers. You got this person want to look like that. You got this. You got strippers want to look like the go real. Come on, man. Everybody's trying to look like something.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yeah. It's whoever to f*** you imitate. You got a boy want to like a girl. Shit. It just feels like. It's like almost impossible to be like a career criminal drug dealer in the way that... If you is, you're not going to have no social media. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yeah. If you is, you're not going to be on no social media. If I think I'm still in the street, so I'm talking to you right now, I'm not going to be all a nigger right here. Yeah, nigga, you go boo bam, shoot him up bang bang, yeah, I'm a nigga disrespect. I'm not doing that when you're going to see me at Sunday, Sunday. You might see me in a mall right now with these little ass shorts on. I interviewed the dude yesterday who, like, all his music, he's talking about how many bricks he has. or had, you know?
Starting point is 01:11:10 It sounds great. I'm like asking them questions about it, but I'm trying to figure it out. Like, for real, yeah. Bro, it sounds great. That shit sounds great when you're listening to it when you're down and out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:21 That shit sounds hard as a... Oh, yeah. Keith Meyer? That shit sounds tough as fuck. Going all that, nigga, Lil Durk and drilling and all that now go look at a little dirk situation. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You feel me? I won't tell the nigga go do nothing. I'm not telling you, if it ain't already in your body, I'm not telling you go to nothing. If you don't want to fuck your bitch and like, let's go home, nigga, man, come on, get out the street, go f-fuck your bitch, man, fuck your bitch. My priorities are intact.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But Dirk's situation is so crazy, because that's pretty, it's like what he was telling us that he was doing in the music all those years, which is like, yo, I'm, I'm a send a hit. And, like, you're just thinking he's rapping. And then, no, you can't really say he's sending them, though. You can't say he's sending them. What, you're not convinced?
Starting point is 01:12:00 No, because I know I'm a street nigger. I got a body. I ain't nobody seen me to do shit. Right. But with his shit, there's, There's much more evidence that he like... I'm hanging around you already. I'm not going to let nobody give you a black eye.
Starting point is 01:12:14 If you came, like I told you earlier, if you came with me in the club, you're not getting a black eye, bro. You're with me. Right. I know you might not be a shooter. You might have more to lose to me. It's a nigga right here.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Future talk about you on you. You ain't saying nothing about him. Nick, I got a nigga right here to take you off with some Jordans. A PJ. Come on, man. It's like you can't put you can. It's music, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I might be living it. I might not. It's for you to decide. I'm making it for you. I'm making it for you. Yeah. So you don't look down on somebody who raps about bodies that he didn't catch? Not an NBA young boy.
Starting point is 01:12:53 He wanted to sing love songs now. He didn't say he didn't drill in those shit and got 10 chains took and killed everybody. I'm not, I don't point fingers, bro. But if you find out that a rapper that you like is talking about some shit that his friends did, like, oh. That's most of these, niggas. What are you talking about? I know, but like that, would you consider that to be fraud? No. No. No, I agree. That's a smart man. As long as he don't get called talking about murder for hire, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:20 You get called a smarter nigga that don't want no cell phone, nigga, like niggins, and shit. Don't like flashy, shit, never are on camera. Little Wayne say, Marley don't shoot him. Have you ever seen Marley? Nah. All right. We'll keep going with that. For sure. We keep going with that. Always one of them niggas in the cut.
Starting point is 01:13:40 For sure. So what, what, uh, what's your purpose in life now at this point? Haven't learned all these lessons, been through so much shit. Kids, podcasting, just financial game, bro. You feel me, loans and ain't, no, no, like, you feel me, I ain't selling my soul. I don't know fraudulent shit. You feel me, I ain't lining myself up with bunk people. I know everything I love.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I can make money and do anything. I want to, kids? I got a 19, 15 that I claim. She's from the set down, too. Oh, shit. She's a lady famous star. I got a 13, 12, 10, and one from B8. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:14:16 The whole collection. You think you're going to make some more? Hell yeah. Shit, late-time about, niggas. Shit, go to court Friday. Your 15-year-old daughter is from the hood now. Yeah. Was that a big decision?
Starting point is 01:14:29 Like, were you consulted or just happened? I was consulted because they know I was going to trip. I was in jail. I was in jail. It was like once they tried to, like, she tried to make that little leap. I've seen the weird shit going on already So it was like once you try to make that leap It was like
Starting point is 01:14:43 Don't do it I gave her the ultimatum like I can show you paper I can show you all type of stuff babe Like you ain't you I did enough for us You can walk around that muff And get your nails done every week Like niggas gonna get you money Just bouncing out like
Starting point is 01:14:55 The whole my whole squad love you like So she like if you don't let me get put on Like basically I'm shit She tried to turn hoover Oh shit So I called the hoovers Hey bro that's my daughter it's not going to go well.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I'm letting y'all know right now, like I'm putting a warning stamp label on their hazard. So they're like, man, just come get her, bro. They end up giving her the boot. I told her if that's what you want to do, shit, you know where to go. You know where to go, you know what to do? And shit, she went over there and did her shit.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Damn. She in camp right now. That's crazy. She ain't camp right now. Ever since Chunky Barbie pepper spread the office, I've thought differently about the female gang members, man. I'm saying Some people ain't studio
Starting point is 01:15:41 Some people ain't studio We got a lot of A lot of rough edge Like type of home girls I ain't gonna lie Tattoed face head Nicker they for sure Gonna try to pop at your ass
Starting point is 01:15:51 That your car on fire These bitches is crazy Yeah Because like when I'm sitting there with her I'm telling her Like I We smoked Yeah DC
Starting point is 01:15:59 We smoked her too good We smoked a bunch of weed right So I'm overly hot She's supposed to f*** Her when he tithe Yeah I heard it still all over.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Oh, hell. I heard that's still his baby even after she destroyed his car. But I'm high as fucking. Just looking at her hand with the big HK on her hand and just being like, bro, like, you got to understand the type of women that I'm around typically. And I'm like hanging out with you, you got this shit on you. Like, what the fuck? That shit's sexy when you drunk.
Starting point is 01:16:29 That shit looks sexy when you drunk. But when you start having real conversation and stop at a gas station and you ask a bitch, which she went off that, it's going to automatically turn you off. automatically this bitch want to go get another cut water this bitch want to go get some swishers this bitch ain't pick up no gum no condoms this bitch you feel me and definitely got a female condom in her purse like you feel me it'd be that should have turned you off eventually like you that's why it's like a lot of niggas don't fuck with that shit nah for sure if I'm not a girl like when I was young I'd be on it I got cousins I got cousins so I was like I got some loyal like house
Starting point is 01:17:02 women like type you feel me oras but you when that call come it's like me got putting them Chuck some. I like them kind. Yeah. Them kind cute. They cool. Friday, Saturday type game bang, bitch. I remember I met this Asian girl who told me she was a blood back in the Dan Long Beach and that should turn me on like crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:21 She was a lot. She's just talking about shooting at somebody. She probably wasn't no blood or she was probably from SOS or stuff. Nah, because I seen her like a couple years ago and she like was mortified when I mentioned her saying that. I can tell she didn't want me to bring that up.
Starting point is 01:17:36 That's what I'm saying. They don't got no bloods in Long Beach like that. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Y'all don't want, but what no blood? I'm going to be in one beach, I ain't right. But I brought that up. I'm like, you were talking about being in a blood and shooting something. She's like, oh my God, like I could tell she didn't want to talk about it at all.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Everything. Yeah. Not real. All right. All right. You want people to tap in with to like, you know, stay up on everything you already know. Man. At Mr. Fucker Friend underscore Jr., man.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Shadier underscore everything. Shady A said it. Find me all my pages open, man. I'll be up. here soon. Adam gonna make some good decisions, man. Nah, you got some star power. I think they're gonna make some decisions, man.
Starting point is 01:18:12 You hear me? He didn't see my last interview. He was over there under the weather when I came up with one again last time. Oh, you did one with that? Yeah, I took a Ricky seat. They clown Ricky ass. What, it was on the news or something?
Starting point is 01:18:25 We was on the, I think it was a Tuesday show. Oh, shit. Y'all said to you probably didn't see it. You said me that? And they was clowning Ricky and shit, and they started shouting me out and all that shit. They're like, man, leave this nigga. Here. Whoever came in that little last 10 minutes, that nigga need to stay because y'all...
Starting point is 01:18:39 Who was it? It was like the black nigga. They called him all type of uncle Tom. Oh, just Rakey? They was called the nigga Uncle Tom's and all the type of shit. Yeah. He gets a lot of shit for being a little too normal. You're like... I don't even see that in the Valley no more. You can't see that in Apple Valley.
Starting point is 01:18:55 What? Just a square-ass black dude? You can't see that shit in Mercedes. For real? That shit is like... I feel like there's a lot of square black dudes that's just not hanging out with y'all. Yeah, but then that's where you start and you start dissecting it. Was you raised by your mama, your grandmama, and then that's where we're going to build your character at right there.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Okay. Because I might take you to a bar, and you might try to hit me like, they hit a nigga like that. Bitch, like, and I can't hang with you no more. You feel me? So you can't,
Starting point is 01:19:22 you can't be cool with a black dude who has not defined himself through violence. It ain't, you define yourself to body. If I don't see no masculinity, I'm creating a monster. I'm condoning your bunk. the bitches that I hang out with is not gonna buy.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Who is that the gay boy right there? Who is that soft nigga? Like, bitch, you can do is buy drinks for us. I don't need you to drive because you're gonna freeze up when you hear a gunshot. I don't know you like that,
Starting point is 01:19:48 but I'm not judging, but I'm saying that shit is not, you probably got one girlfriend you've been with since the junior high school and she hates your ass. I like to know you like a man. Wait, but so you can't, you cannot be cool with a gay dude on any level?
Starting point is 01:20:00 I don't have no, I tattoo on them. I do all that. I don't know. Homophobic, none of that shit. Oh, okay. No, I'm gonna just don't touch me, like, all that, that making slick comments and shit, I'm not with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Even, but any, you know, all your, niggins, who, pass the blood, yeah, but all that. Bricking out your cup? No, I ain't doing that. I hung out with some bitches. They were like, nigga, I'm like, pass the point. It's like, nigga, you're overreacting about, tripping about your blunt? This nigga suck more dick than us. I'm like, oh, it made me just.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I feel like there's nothing that brushing your teeth can't fix. Oh, God. Pass me the blunt. I don't care if you suck the dick this morning. Any nigger that says that eat ass. I do that too, yeah. Any niggas say that eat ass. That's not cool?
Starting point is 01:20:42 That's straight with me. Oh, it's a... 400 daddy with me. This dude is crazy. You eat coochie good to eat the ass right. Holy shit. All right, tap in with Shady Avalon, man. Shooter.
Starting point is 01:20:54 You got a good taste because he's a star right, man. I told you me. I'm going to bring the radio ones in. Show me in, man. We locked in. I got to tuck in. I was waiting on a... The answer call.
Starting point is 01:21:04 He said he was going to call. Oh, that niggas still sleep, yeah. Oh, shit. Damn, yeah, free of the, free the, headway.
Starting point is 01:21:12 And he'd be calling me. I'd be like, what's up, bro? Just got done grilling. You know, maybe something. I'm like, nigga,
Starting point is 01:21:18 I already know. Like, you're up here trying to make something sound good and taste good. Damn, so you live in large in there? No, we don't play.
Starting point is 01:21:25 That's one thing. We ain't, that grill going off. Yeah. That grill, you set that, on fire. My spread game,
Starting point is 01:21:32 dope. We can do all that. Oh, I believe it. We should set that up sometime. We can do a start of batch of prune on this. I can do white light. Go on my Instagram. Go on Mr. Frient. All that's on my shit. I live in a jail cell, everything.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I play games. My shit ain't empty and echoing like some people. Oh, yeah? No, my shit ain't echoing, bro. Who's echoing? Shit. I've seen some podcasts with some bad sound out here. Shit, it's jail cells too.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Oh, yeah, that too. I want to see one, like, Braves or somebody. I want to see them sneak in like a real camera with a mic and shit so they could be a prison vlogger, but not just off the phone. Not on that level. Not on that level that they own. If he come down, he'll probably be able to get access to it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 He comes down, he got to go 50-50. You can't hoop that camera, though. Shit, ain't nobody doing no hooping. Oh, okay. He's just going to get caught with that shit. Hoop dreams. They say shit, Tori Lane's got called with a whole goddamn mixer. In his ass?
Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't know just on his dad. That's the shit. That's probably why the man's getting Doug in it so good. I mean, he put out like a crazy album that sounded like super professional, so I guess it makes sense that you got that. Yeah. Yeah, as I'm saying, he had a mixer and the sound thing and all that. That actually makes sense because otherwise I don't know how the hell they made that shit sound so good.
Starting point is 01:22:51 That's probably why the essay is like, nigga, give me a song, fool, or you never know. I heard it was over a girl or something, but. Not mind of your business. Shady Avalon, yo, shooter, appreciate you, man. Thank you for, uh, bring him. What's up? Shady Avalon. Appreciate it, Doug.
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