No Jumper - Shady Avalon on 53 Avalon Crip, Doing 6 Years for a Body, Ant Jefe & More
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No Jumber.
Coolest podcast in the world.
And today I'm in here, my boy baby shooter.
Time with it, man.
We ain't this motherfucker.
He hit me up and told me that we absolutely needed to sit down with Shady Avalon
and do this interview and get his whole story out there.
And I take your word seriously.
So I said, let's make it happen.
Oh, definitely.
The show.
So, okay, you go first.
Why do you feel like this was the interview to make happen right now?
This big bro, he can make, you know what I'm saying?
He makes it happen in that motherfuck, his main ring bells.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas though for their self.
So what niggas, you know what I'm saying?
When niggas hear him, you know what I'm saying?
They're going to know exactly what it is.
All that shit the avalon, you know what I'm saying?
Like he wanted them niggas that niggas talk about it for that muck and I was making it happen.
I was making it happen in the jill house type shit.
I feel like, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
This whole little, whole little package type shit.
Do you, uh, I don't want to go out of order or anything.
I was about to just say, like, how long you've been home or whatever.
But, all right, yeah, let's just go from the beginning.
So, where did you grow up?
South Central Los Angeles, South Park, man.
Okay.
What was it like coming up there back in the day?
We didn't have as many Mexicans that we did now, but.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
It's a good thing.
We don't beefing no masks.
We clicked up to play boys.
Fuck with him.
Okay.
But so this was like what year?
What year were you born?
I'm 86, baby.
Okay.
So you're like 39?
40.
40.
All right.
So coming up out there during that time period, was it crazy?
Yeah, like moving around like with family, moms, you know, however that go.
Wherever they, you know, Section 8, except we're going to go.
Wherever I went, the set went.
So it was like born and bred, it was like butter already.
Okay.
So you were born and raised.
But you had both parents?
Yep.
What was dad on?
Dad, not front of set, but he born and raised over there too.
So it's like all my uncle's from the set, aunties, cousins, baby cousins, girl cousins.
And so was the whole gang thing, like, right in front of your eyes, like, all the time?
To a sense.
It was inevitable, but at the same time, like, you know, moms gave me better choices.
And you feel me, the motherfucker gonna go do what he wanna do.
So your parents kind of warned you about the streets
and tried to make you go to the straight?
It ain't even no warning.
It was like, I was already like knee deep.
You feel me, going to juvenile hall, campus placements,
all that shit.
Where did you first get in trouble for?
My first one is assault, a deadly weapon,
great body injury.
You shot him?
That young?
How old are?
I was 12.
I was 10 when I did it.
I took the time when I was 12.
You shot somebody at 10.
No, I busted him down with a box cutter.
What do you do to deserve that treatment?
I got down with his brother first, broke his jaw.
They kicked me out of school, and shit, we got out of school early one day, and I went up to my old school.
And we all walked to the high school to keep doing what we doing this when I was living in the valley and shit.
And shit, I seen the brother they pointed me out like, oh, that's him.
Like, damn.
This nigga in high school, big.
Mom's already like pick up something that hit their ass with.
it. I whip out. Like, what you gonna do? You ain't gonna tell like nothing but your brother did.
I'm already on probation like me. What's up? Like, he'd go for the steel. I go for the steel
back and bust him down. He grabbed my shit out. So he had a knife too and he went to grab it?
No, he had grabbed my box cutter. Oh, he tried to grab it. And I cut the thumb to the index finger,
all that shit, gripped it, just whoop you. That's how I started going viral like 10, 12 years old.
Going viral? You mean like in the
neighborhood like period everywhere I went camp I wasn't even official so it was like
coming to juvenile hall you playing the shoe games all that like stick your shoes
outside go to sleep wake up your shit gone you see a nigga with your shit on you like
nigga get cracking like so it's like everybody tested me a little bit more and then it was
like I had a choice to go 50s or the 80s okay I'm bred I'm born and raised with
young aunt and all them you feel me so tiny menace you name them I know them I got these
niggas tattooed on me like you feel me so it's like I'm both like my 80s baby too oh okay
yeah damn so you feel like you're like very very accepted in both sets for sure certified
okay when you're 10 years old walk around with a box cutter and you're like super quick to
pull it out and go crazy and also even just knocking somebody's jaw like breaking somebody's jaw at 10
that's like not having no control that's not having you feel me you already got rage you didn't
lost both grandparents back to back.
I just feel like most 10-year-old boys don't have the power to not to break somebody's job.
You gotta look at these.
I know.
And that's what I was going to say before is that as soon as I shook his hand, I was like, oh, fuck.
Every single one, the bitch is broke, don't none of them match.
My dad's six-four, so it's like I'm the smallest of all these kids.
My mom's the smallest of his baby moms, too, though.
Certain dudes are just like, they have like surprise power.
Like, you look like a big strong dude, but like as soon as I shook his hand,
I'm like, oh, like, that's a different level.
And I didn't read.
I don't know a butt.
I heard of everything.
I know a bit.
I know a bit.
But like, okay, when you look back at that time period,
you can relate it back to like you being an angry kid that you were felt like you were dealt
a bad hand in line or what?
So it's like, nigga ain't never had nothing to lose.
When you ain't got nothing to lose, it's like, shit, you're going day for day, going for
the gusto, you're trying to hustle, you're selling weed, you're trying to figure yourself out
at an earlier age.
Mm-hmm.
You feel what I'm.
So it was like by the time you catch these cases, now you're not no longer under guidance
with these parents and all that type of shit, you feel me?
So when you weathering storms by yourself, you become like a mini man, not a man, because
you ain't got man strength yet, you ain't really, you went through puberty, evolved yet, like,
you feel me, mentally.
So you're playing grown games at an early age, and it's like once you start culminating
to whatever butterfly or whatever bumblebee you think you're going to be, it's going to be,
it's going to be like, it's already setting stone somewhere else.
already written. Yeah, it's like this time period in your life where you're supposed to be a kid,
you're supposed to be doing lighthearted things, you're supposed to be learning basic math
and reading and shit like that. Skipping school, playing Y-A games, uh, uh, shit, hooped dissing hoods
and carving shit in your hand, you know, try to, you feel me? Like, you know, I did it all,
bro. It's nothing under the sun. Where, so how did you get caught for slicing that kid's hand over?
Oh, shit, I tried to get back on my bike and gangslide.
I'm going to try to get up out of there and shit.
The police pulled me over, took me to the little police station, interrogated nigga and shit.
Did you know to not say anything even then?
Way back then my mom.
I was my first time ever even seeing white people when I moved out there.
Really?
You feel me?
Like, I ain't never had a white teacher.
I ain't never had none of that.
I'm really like.
So the cops were the first white people you really?
First white people I seen.
No not to talk to them.
No not to.
You feel me?
So it was like when they did what they did, it was like, oh, they found
weed in my pocket.
And mom's like,
weed too?
Oh yeah,
I'm like,
shit,
I wish I would have kept me in jail.
I'm gonna get my ass beat
when I go home.
Like,
I ain't gonna better hit her back.
Like,
definitely.
All right,
so how are they able to actually put that charge on you
just because there were witnesses and shit?
Witnesses,
all that.
Witnesses,
I broke the box cutter and ran,
but it was witnesses and all that shit.
I did in front of the whole school.
Damn.
Like,
that's one thing.
Like,
I've known for getting off where I'm mad at.
I ain't gonna lie.
Like,
I'm,
I'm getting to it. I'm getting cracking right here. I ain't doing all that.
Bend the coma.
I mean, yeah, that's kind of like...
Magical shit. It gives you too much time to think
and think about what you're going to do to me.
Right. I mean, that's a weird thing in gang culture and shit,
is that you're supposed to get off where you get offended at.
Where everyone is mad at. Especially when I'm coming at you humbly, like a man,
I've been so respectful and been bred by so many like real niggas.
You know, five trades, eight trades, different Hoover sets,
Like, you feel me?
So it's like a couple neighborhoods too.
Like, you feel me?
So it's like the way I'm combing it, you can't really find a nigga like that
because you got to go through the steps and stages of all the prisons, institutions, facilities.
You got to go through all that shit to become a nigga like me.
You feel me?
Some people are trying to do it off of, you know, just rubbing shoulders and, you know,
taking a nigger and running with it.
But you ain't really got the criteria.
You ain't got the pedigree in the background.
Like, you feel me?
So it's like.
Yeah, everybody's trying to get to the maxed out.
The maxed out reputation without actually having to go kill 10 people to get it.
You feel me?
You want to be a power house.
You want to be a millionaire.
You want to be all these different things, bro, except for who the f you is.
You feel me?
I don't do that.
You feel about my walking around with 50 chains.
I don't, you feel me?
I barely do.
I don't do interviews.
I don't really do shit like that.
But you feel me at the same time, it's like I'm me.
Everybody knows me.
Right.
But you were kind of brought up to not necessarily like think ahead.
because the whole concept of like get off where you met at
is like the opposite of what I would probably advise to somebody
which is like if you have to get revenge on somebody
or you have to like do something
you should do it in a real low-key way
that is going to make it so that you are not likely to get in trouble.
That's how white people think.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
But that's white people think.
That's not something that you were ever even thinking about it
because it's more about pride in that moment.
It ain't even pride.
It's just the eyeballs.
It's the eyeballs that's looking.
It's the, you know, what people gonna run back and say,
you feel me?
So when you, you're coming up, you're thinking how people feel,
me, you want to entertain the crowd, the troops,
you really wanna rally, you feel me, you wanna be the,
you feel me, and it's like, I liked it, that shit,
the excitement, the circus clowning and all that.
I was always class clown, all that,
but get my work done, make you look stupid.
I'm my shit really right, you still lagging back laughing with me,
but you fell and I'm not, you feel me?
So like, I'm a little,
always been more advanced than my age bracket.
But like we, we know how influenced young boys are by older boys, right?
And I feel like all the dudes who were telling you about life
were basically putting you onto some shit that was just straight.
It was just uncles.
I'm seeing warfare.
Nice cars.
I'm seeing fine-ass, you know, bad bitches.
I'm looking at, you feel me?
Every time we go somewhere, everything all on them, like,
when I turned the hood, I'm thinking they was like,
they're doing some crazy shit to get this shit.
shit, they finesseers and, you know, they, you know, they're not enough, like, do they thing a little
bit, like, you know, flocking a little bit, they was doing a little bit of everything, but
I jumped in the, in the ball thing and it was like, it was over, I ain't going to lie.
Well, wait, so you guys selling drugs right away?
After I got shot.
Okay.
I never, I never had to sell no drugs, never yet.
How did you get shot?
How old were you?
A young aunt.
Ah, no way.
How old were you?
Young aunt.
I was fresh 18.
Shut up, an 18-year-old aunt.
He was about the same?
I just beat my wife.
A white commitment, came home, waiting on the settlement.
I got down with the police in juvenile hall at 14.
He bruised two of my ribs, had my eye, all my whites in my eyes, cherry red.
And you were getting a settlement because they were too aggressive?
I was going to get to lie and say that I had food poisoning to call my mom to get the social and all that to take me to the outside hospital.
And once they like did whatever they did and they took me to hospital, they're like, oh,
bruised ribs,
and you got choked out, boom, bam,
like, you feel me, no kids did this.
Like, you feel me, like, hang, that's how.
It was a little short lady,
uh, named Mr. Vantes,
you feel me from 18th Street.
She used to work moving and control.
We, when Silmar had the earthquake and all that,
this is how long I've been doing this shit.
Seymour had the earthquake,
the building shut down and all that.
We was, like, we had to move to a different unit.
So they put, like, all the high risk
or the HROs and all the different niggas
over there.
Like, you feel me,
A, B, EFX, they start putting this in different little spot central and all that.
And I end up getting into it with the dude over, like some bunk shit.
And you feel, I need to kick the tray on his feet.
He's like, man, close my door, bitch ass.
Nick, I don't go about watching TV, none of that.
You're trying to trick me with trinkets and shit.
Like, I'm not extra meals.
And I don't get a fuck about none of that.
My mama come up every week.
Got hygiene, got food, get money in my shit.
You know, I'm doing me.
Like, you feel me?
But the lady end up seeing me come from medical.
You know, got to take me on my medical passes.
She like, I'll take him.
I know him.
I'm head down, not trying to say nothing.
Still ain't trying to tell him nobody, no nothing.
Show enough.
She's like, look up at me, oh.
Like, look one more time.
I'm like, what's up, man?
She's like, nigga, we've been in one more corner.
She went to room, whip out her little camera thing.
Took like 80 pictures and took the SD card out.
She took 80 pictures of what?
My face, my ribs, all the little shit.
Okay.
You feel me and gave it to my mom that Sunday, like that Sunday that the visit came.
Uh-huh.
My mom gave it to my uncles from the hood and all that.
Lawyers, everybody came up there tripping.
You feel me?
They ended up giving me a house in order to go to Central.
That's where all the homies was at.
So that's where I became, like, got my name and all that shit for them.
Okay.
But how much money did you end up getting?
I got 70.
Damn.
I got 70 first eight.
That must have felt crazy, right?
Yeah, I gave my lawyer like a third, and then I ended up with like 70 after.
Oh shit
So it's like
I'm already like
You know
My uncles and them got money
So it's like I'm thinking
That's a lot of money
Hell yeah
For a kid
You buy a card
You know
Get the clothes you ain't
You never had
You know
Look out for a couple
Homes
And so you blew through it
Hell of quick
Man that shit was going
Like six months
Seven months
Yeah
That's what made me
Start selling dope
And like
You know
Trying to maintain my
You know
My
My facade and shit
Okay
But when you
You said you got
Sent to Men's Central jail
There
How long?
When
After you got
Beat up by the cops
That was probably like shit
I didn't go to
Men Central until I was 18
Okay
I think LP and all that shit
I beat all that shit up from 10 12 13 14
All over 17 and a half
I didn't come home to 17 and a half
Okay
So once I
I fought my Wai commitment
Fawn my fitness all that shit
It was more or less like
Should go to this little basketball
A little placement
You know
Walk up out of there
Get ready to chill
You know they felt like remorseful a little bit
You feel me
I'm up there still tripping
doing dumb shit too, but I end up graduating and end up going home from that facility,
end up going home on probation.
So that's how I end up getting out, start going back to the 80s.
My auntie lived over there and around in.
How did you meet aunt?
My auntie living apartments over there, where's mom stay at.
So it's like when we go outside, go swimming, we used to go to Jesse on, sneak in there
and do all that type of shit.
We've been like doing crazy dumb shit, like you feel me?
So.
And what kind of?
dude, did you think of Ant as being at that time?
Because the only reason I say that is because he always, like, on the podcast and shit,
has been the most laid-back, cool, smoking big weed.
But then there's also, like, rumors you hear about him from time of time.
And when we, like, really found out, like, what his name actually represents and means and shit.
His name don't.
His brothers do.
I heard that Ant also has a second meaning.
It do.
It's an acronym.
Yeah.
And it's kind of a vicious one.
Yeah, but, you know, people make stuff up as they go.
I've got disrespectful names, too.
So it's like, I make them up as I go, who I'm beefing with at the time.
And sometimes shit, you end up getting a little homie put up under him.
But aunt, he always been quiet.
You feel me, he always been cock strong as a man.
He always been like, you know, a hustler, you feel me?
I'll write hustler, you feel what I'm saying?
And he, one thing about him, he don't talk a lot.
So if he do talk to you with you, swap numbers with you, any of that type of.
He's been real meticulous as a kid.
He always been a little bit older in advance.
Okay.
But I grew up with tiny ant.
Like me and tiny ant is day ones.
So there's another aunt?
This is an NBA one or two?
No.
Tiny ant.
Tiny ant is the other brother.
Tony Ann is the big brother.
Okay.
And you got a young aunt.
Then you got NBA one, then you got NBA two.
I know the whole family.
Okay.
Interesting.
But so what were you doing?
with aunt that led to you getting shot or whatever.
We had a funny shit.
We had a, got in tour with some shit called Hillside Vicious.
Like a long time ago, they ended up turning all school yard or like Venet Showline or something.
They were like a click.
Okay.
You feel me?
But we ended up getting to them when they was dissing the threes and all that different stuff.
So we like, you know, we had plans to go to 7 to 7 to the Skading Ring World on Wheels
and, you know, we're going to go bliss they ass.
Like, you feel me?
We're feeling like, we're feeling like we're going to make them choose up.
Like y'all either feeling like,
stop coming up here, y'all gonna really turn.
We're gonna press them to turn school yard.
Like, you feel me?
We did it over there.
And they're trades.
We do it in the hood.
You feel,
we don't do clicks.
You know,
it keeps the bullshit down.
So we end up,
mount up at St. Andrews,
whatever.
And like,
the police just kept circling.
It was a carnival, though.
So it was like,
it's a lot of people up there,
family over here,
gangbangers over here.
People still trying to find parking.
It was a lot of,
like, movement and shit.
You feel me?
So it was like weird.
We all coming from foot locker
on St. Andrews,
getting our last little
Like you feel
me, whatever we need.
Like, man, a nigga pulled up
and this is set
right after we, right after I put my gun
up, bro.
Literally, right after I put my, I just set that
down because the police drove by.
We walk in, we like, yeah, the homie's
gonna pull up with her and the nigga pull up.
Pull up, right?
This is it.
We like, you nigga is funny.
The car cut off.
When we fin of approach the car,
you know, and aggressive,
you niggas, young hog,
nigga, woo, woo, we're an A-trade
gangsters, ooh.
Man, that nigga whip out something.
Old ass.
When they first made automatics
or something,
we take off running
and literally young aunt fall in front of me.
And as I'm running behind him to take off, it's like
I'm scooping him up like a baseball, like,
you feel me, he shoot me in the ass and blow my shoelaces off.
So the head shot, he would have got,
I took it in the back.
You feel me?
So after the,
that just made us boys like right we ain't he like nigger that was crazy you could have just
jumped over me and kept going like nigger that was weird like you feel me end up his homie had a spot
and uh but that's the kind of decision that it's not like you had even one second to make that decision
it's it's a hundred percent it's out of being you already muscle memory of like how you feel about
how we're hanging out already how we already like my common ground with you already you feel me that's
why I really don't go a lot of places with niggas because I feel like I got to protect you hard
and you're going to protect me. You feel me? I don't go certain play. I'm not going right here
with this nigga. He's going to go to a magic party. I don't have a hundred thousand. I don't
got, nigga, 15 Cubans and nigger, no draws on the day. You feel me? Like, it's just certain
shit I'm not doing because I know me. I know how I party. I know how I play. Right.
I know how I'm going to perform. You feel me? So, but yeah, he ended up, like, embracing me
after that, like, I end up working a spot with him and his older homie and shit.
His homie seen how we used to work that motherfucker.
And all he used to do was just bring bitches over and, like, you know, feed the dogs and,
you know, push it through the mailbox.
Like, he ended up going to camp going, and we parted ways for a little high second.
And it was like, you feel me came back as grown men.
So you weren't f***ed up too bad from getting shot in the ass?
I was f***ed up for about three weeks I couldn't shit.
Couldn't shit.
Yeah, that was when they put me on the shit bag.
Damn.
I jumped out to shower.
And that, that, exploded like, like, soul playing.
Boom.
Boom, boom, boom.
I called the doctor like, fuck you, nigga.
I'm not yet.
But that was where my real psychosis came in at when it come down to gun game,
never getting caught without it.
And they got my real, like, feeling like I don't like neighborhood no more.
Like, that's where all that came in at, like from the 80s.
And I took it to my side of town.
Damn.
So you were just whiling after that?
For how long, good minute.
Good minute.
People's wilding for me.
I'll sh-up.
Okay, yeah.
People's wilding for me, but that's where I got to give back what it was given.
That's where my name starts superseding and excelling,
because I'm jumping in cars with different people.
It ain't got to be no killings.
It could be just f***ing shit out at a liquor store.
You feel me?
You feel me?
Just putting shit on the map.
I mean, it's kind of a different time for gang bang, would you say?
Way, way, way different.
Because you couldn't make a name for yourself on the internet.
everything's like real life.
I'm, I'm, I, shit, I used to tag my chirp number on the wall.
Kid me, I'll pull up right here and give you what you're looking for.
Like, I ain't, this shit is, I ain't have aim and my space and all that shit.
I was already in damn to go into prison by trying that shit came up.
So you were hustling, you were more of a hustler than you were a gangbanger who was just concerned with balance and shit?
At first.
At first.
At first.
At first, but it was like when you, I don't, me personally, I don't, if I can't sleep with it, I ain't going to.
I'm gonna do something.
I don't get a fuck.
If I gotta text you 50 times
to cuss you to fuck out, I don't,
you feel me?
It's like I just learned how to social media bang
with people.
You feel in 2012?
Like, that shit was funny
just fucking me,
like people chunking up shit,
dissing it, tagging you in it.
Like, it was just weird.
It was crazy back then.
So it was like...
What do you mean you had to learn it?
I had to learn how to deal with people.
How to deal with that shit.
Like, you feel me?
Like even now, you gotta learn how to deal with it now.
That shit is like a, it's a drug.
Right, because, oh yeah,
that's why everybody's chasing.
the next big content.
They chase in the next big...
But the biggest thing, like,
it's such an old-head thing
when you see somebody posting on Instagram
and then you realize that they're responding
to all the comments
talking shit to everybody.
But go watch this.
But if in the old school shit,
like, or on some prison shit,
you can't let them say nothing to you.
So you got to spazzle them every time.
It's raised on that foyer.
I'm from gangster crypt.
So at the end of the day,
everything I do is supposed to be in silence.
You feel me?
I'm not supposed to be saying,
I know what not to say?
I know what I do. I'm my own person. You feel what I'm saying? My part of game banging is I can
I'm not saying it's over but at the same time I don't go over there. I'm not hanging out and
tell yeah you Adam yeah come get to the set get put on we ain't let's go to the club
niggas gonna make some more money let's go you feel me I'm not I'm gonna bring these
niggas to you we're not going to them you feel me so it's like it's a different
mindframe and aspect when you're dealing with people that's cloud chasing people that really
never had it never been you feel what I'm saying are people that
that's already like, niggins, so I ain't going back.
I really deal with them people that
two, three hundred miles away and can dictate and direct
and really gonna put some money in the potter,
gonna call you and tell you, hey, that was wrong.
Hey, yeah, that was f*** up, hey, apologize and people,
hey, tell them we gonna, you feel, me, bottles on us
at the club next week or something.
Like, you feel me, versus, yeah,
them niggas, let's get cracker, nigga, yeah,
and you ain't gonna participate,
you ain't gonna, eh, bed, assist, you,
your sons, your kids, nobody, you feel what I'm saying?
That's what I had to learn coming up in the ranks.
And it's what a lot of these niggas don't know.
Now, you feel me, present day,
because they big homie is a nigga five months older than them.
Oh, that way.
You feel what I'm saying?
They daddy ain't from over here.
They daddy from over there.
They're mama really a gangbanger.
Like, you feel me?
It's like certain shit, it don't really add up to me no more.
That's why I got to fall back because I can't bend or foe for certain shit.
But you feel like the culture almost kind of...
The culture is, like, left you behind where you just don't even give a fuck about
It ain't even no left behind.
You have to adjust and adapt.
Yeah.
If you still wearing big ass,
B2K ass pants and dress like criss-crossing all that right now,
we're going to clown your stupid ass.
You feel me?
You take that fitted shirt off and put on the 3x tall
and think you're going to put a blue rag on your neck right now.
We're going to clown your stupid ass.
But at the same time, at your age right now,
no lie, no exaggeration.
For a clout, for any type of clarity,
for some type of, you know, monetary game,
you can get put on nigger of blood hood.
You can go, nigga, whack,
and go find you somewhere to get put on.
Yeah.
Brown all these niggins and did it.
But I feel like nobody does that now.
Like Chris Brown and Soldier Boy did it, but that was like 15 years ago.
And now I feel like you ain't really seen that sense.
And the internet scrutiny would be so crazy if you're like a celebrity getting put on a hood, right?
Nah, it's really shit.
I don't know.
They say, I don't know.
I don't speak on people badly, man.
Yeah, I don't know who's.
I try not to.
I can speak on a couple of them, though.
Yeah.
I mean, I put on real late.
Yeah, I don't know really.
But it just seems crazy to be like thirsty for that kind of approval.
It ain't from that.
It don't even matter if you got put on late.
If you wasn't in the streets, the field,
if you really ain't out there trooping right now to make up for lost times,
you feel what I'm saying?
I don't advise nobody to do it with all these cameras
and nigger Tesla's driving around and recorded phone calls and pings.
The motherfucker ain't even up on electronics.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it's like you got to start like thinking a little bit different
if you've been to be a real gangbanger these days.
You want to know something crazy, though?
I was having a conversation with the AI the other day
just because I was thinking about this.
And I basically said,
what percentage of murders were getting solved in the 60s versus today?
The percentage is way lower today.
It's like 60% now.
It used to be like 85%.
And I'm trying to figure out like why.
And it basically said that like the internet and all this weird shit
has like created a situation.
If somebody gets killed,
it's a way higher percentage chance that it's a stranger.
versus like in the 60s
if you got killed,
we could pretty much like figure out
who we could have been.
James Earl or somebody.
Because you didn't know that many people.
It was like your family
and then like the kids on the other side of town
that you don't get along with
but it's not really like,
you just knew way less people.
You know, you was getting out though.
You feel what I'm saying?
Because the motherfucker already knew
you wasn't coming back to the hood.
We already knew after you told on them
you was a nigga getting on a train
and get the body to go to New York or somewhere.
You feel what I'm saying?
Now it's shit you tell right now
I'm a nigga, shit, gonna D-P-U and nigger tell you,
do a couple push-ups.
Right.
It's a different ball game.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
That's where my step, little dynamics came with my hood.
Like.
So you're saying that people used to be able to do bunk shit
and then just move out of town and just completely start over.
You had to.
You had to.
Before there was a witness protection there was,
that's what you getting a f*** out of dodge
because you knew the consequences of the law to land.
They will kill you for show.
I don't you, I don't you,
you, I don't you, is a nigga come from the caucus mountains.
We all on the set program.
The rules don't.
You snitch in South Central.
Your mama, your dad, you move to Lancaster.
You're never going to see.
You got to go further than that.
Vegas.
You got to see if that's what they was doing at first.
Yeah.
That's where everybody thinks it's smart enough.
You go to New York.
You really never going to ever see anyone that you know.
You got to go far.
But now you don't have to go nowhere.
You just, nigga, call a couple of your cousins from right there and, you know,
probably buy a couple bottles.
So, okay, what, you're talking about your situation with your hood?
What was that?
I think I got a jail for murder.
Okay, I do know about that.
But can we talk about how that situation happened?
It was just a lot of shit, dirty politic and, bro, like, you feel me?
This is at what era in your life?
2018.
This is like when I'm grown.
Oh, okay.
So it's like we can skip, we can skip a little bit.
But you had done prison time already at this point?
I'm on my fifth prison term already.
Oh, at that point.
At this point, I was on my fourth.
So it was like when I caught this case, it was like,
A in-house murder on one of my homies.
And how did you get to the point where you had to kill your homie?
It was like, it was just a lot of dirty politics, a lot of kid games.
You feel me?
Like, I accepted a DP that I didn't have to accept.
You feel me?
For what?
For getting money with, like, my outsiders and shit.
Like, different enemy goals and different little shit didn't want to give up my opposition,
locations or, you know, dirt, like, you know, double back on them to do nothing.
Like, you feel me?
Like, he didn't have situations.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like, they didn't call me.
Like, because I give him.
money with other niggas you feel what I'm saying they like hey yeah this nink got it got a
hundred on him right now nigger on foals woo wham did a da da da I'm like send me a picture I look at the
pitch I call this nigga ASAP bro what you got on the valour ball name suit right now you you're in
you in that truck you got that 30 on you oh nigger you you're gonna go me oh hey pull up on me
first fool no facts on damn pull up on me first fool it's facts on the day show him the text messages
just show them everything and then, you feel me.
I'm gonna let you decide what you wanna do after that.
You feel what I'm saying?
But I'm just letting you know, look how full circle this shit is
when you don't know nobody though.
If I was just stuck in one little plantation,
you feel what I'm saying, and don't know nobody,
that I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't have to help my homie.
Right.
I wasn't able to help no end.
I wouldn't be able to go in, you know,
do dirt different shit.
I don't know where to see a bitch from everything.
You feel me?
Like I'm two clicks deep already.
Like I don't even, I'm young squad, murder squad.
Like I'm original murder squad.
Founder Young Squad, you feel
me, so it's like...
What is Murder Squad?
It's a clique that started
in early 2000s.
Okay.
It's like we got young guns too,
but that's like all my God uncles
and older homies.
Okay.
But, so your whole hood agreed
that by you telling your homie
that they were planning on robbing him
that you were f***ed up
and that you needed a DP?
No, that was this two different situations.
Not two different situations.
His situation was like, you know how I'm in the field.
So it was like, you know,
I'm stopping him.
and it's over here, but by me getting money with other niggas and doing all this type of shit,
it became like a, I ain't gonna lie, I asked me for some money before.
I'm like, who you think I am?
I really got shit over here going on.
I really got bitches, baby mob, nigga.
I'm the face of this over here.
The fuck I look like, you feel me?
Like, it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit, but then once I seen where it was coming from
and stemming from, it really wasn't that.
It's like all the dirty mac in under the rug to cut those shit, you feel what I'm saying?
So that's where I had to start, you know, doing my own, like, grown man investigation, you know,
falling back on parties and, you know, really just, like, linking up with these niggas
in different atmospheres and different little shit, you feel me?
So it was like, once I got word and certain shit transpired, my house got shot up.
And literally, no lie, no exaggeration.
I just put my son head on my nephew body, and I'm like, what would you, what would you
do with your son's right here?
Like, so when I got into it the nigger, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Got him to it once or twice first.
You would just see him around and just...
No, I seen him.
He ride motorcycles and shit, you know.
But he's not knowing I'm building...
I'm baking a cake on him.
You feel me?
I already got fed niggas sending me paperwork.
I already got baby mama text messages with the freaky Fridays and...
Oh, shit.
You feel me?
You're like...
You're putting the info together?
Wait, what?
Make it add up.
He just...
What, is that symbolic with the water bottle right there?
No stew boy blue, right?
Tuh.
So, this is what a nigga, you feel me?
So it's like, you keep on, egging me on.
Like, you feel me to, and it just like,
he said some slick shit to me, bro.
And once he said, I didn't kay your house up.
I said, K, I never told you.
I never told my murder squad.
Nobody in my clique, what type of caliber weapon
my house got shot up with, fool?
That was the tell-tale sign.
Like, I fired this shit up.
Just right then and there.
You just fired this shit right where I was mad at.
Fire this shit up. Boom bang, we start fighting.
Oh, so you're just fighting.
We fighting and shit, once his little homie ran out with the pistol.
Shit, my brother tried to, my snitch brother tried to break it up.
You feel me?
And shit.
Once I've seen the gun, I went to the car, got mine.
Looked at him, he looked at me.
Should, soon he came from behind the car, I used that.
And did you even have a chance to get away or the cops just-
I got away?
I was gone for two months.
Two months, okay.
I shot that nigga 12 times.
And you went on the run and the cops found you?
Went on the run.
My little cousin ended up having a car accident on the 14 freeway.
And like, you know, I checked my snaps and shit.
I, you know, deactivate my shit to do whatever I was doing on the run.
And I ended up seeing that and I called my family.
And that's how they had some shit called dump records, a dump on my shit.
To her like, you couldn't tap me because I'm throwing my phones away.
as I go, you tapping people that you think that I will call or would help me get somewhere.
You feel what I'm saying?
So they have like moms, aunties, cousins, exes.
And that's where my brother came in at with that shit because he turned his phone over.
Yeah.
So they had all the messages, all the Instagrams.
They already knew so the next day was at my house.
You look that shit up.
So you took it to trial or you just took it?
COVID ended up coming.
I end up, once I got my discovery and shit, my murder book, all that,
went pro per.
It was, sure.
I seen everything shit damn their day one after they flew me back.
You feel me?
It broke my heart.
They had you wrapped up?
Like, shit.
Seven people told.
Oh, shit.
Seven anonymous calls, four people told.
Uh, and shit.
And it was just,
and it was all in-house.
So it was like, nigga, I know your last name,
your first name.
It's like, I can't talk on the phone.
I can't really.
And the guy, you know, so.
Well, you were talking about your brother and you said my snitch brother.
So are you saying that he told on that?
I got a brother from that.
Yeah, he told on this case.
He was the driver.
Damn.
So you not only caught this crazy case, but all of a sudden, all these people that you thought
that you were close with and family even.
Family lied about lawyers.
I'm talking about homies.
Lying about certain shit, too, trying to, like, you know, keep me calm.
Like, it's like a lot of shit, bro.
Like paperwork by the galore.
Wow.
So how many years you end up getting?
I end up, um,
pandemic end up coming.
I tried to bail out when they lowered the,
uh,
when they lowered the, um,
the little,
the bailing and shit through the gas cone directive and all that shit.
So I ended up bailing out on 2.8 million
after I was making money and shit with foleaf
and all the different little shit was going on up there.
Wait,
so you,
Jay Hoods,
you bailed out before you even got sentenced.
Way before.
Oh, okay.
So I tried to bail out.
So I gave them the money and they,
they posted my bill like,
court happened like a Thursday, Friday.
So we like, you know,
out of the phone, we already know what's going on.
Like, you feel me? If you get under $3 million, I'm out.
And literally, Saturday morning, 9 o'clock, roll it up,
Raymond Preston, get up out of here, bitch.
And they get into the police talking crazy, all the little shit.
You know, like, never you bailed out.
Like, they come to the door and shit.
Man.
Who had all that money?
I was making money in jail.
That's a lot of money, though.
I made $120 in three months.
Wow.
That's for sure.
I'm convicted all that shit.
So it's like, you can make a ad.
You can look on my ground.
I called with three cell phones, quarter pound of weed,
68 grams of black, steazy wax pins, flash drives.
They caught you with all that in prison.
In my cell, in county jail.
In county jail.
That's why it ain't no real movement,
like certain shit that goes on right now, like,
ah, I started to and done.
You feel me?
After the bray situation happened,
after I got out with all three of the bloods and all that shit,
they let me walk around a whole county jail
because it was going to be a whole, like, a wave
because it was me.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I walked around the county jail, told the neighborhoods, told the East Coasts,
told like the Grape Streets, told all the hub and the dub, all like everybody, hey, bro, it was good.
Like I called them out.
This will happen.
Like, you feel me?
Like, man, we just trying to implement like two phase and that's it.
Like, you feel me?
No matter where you from, you land in the wrong module, you're getting two fades.
You feel me?
You can program.
You can tell your homies you here.
We can move you, however.
Let's don't roll it up.
You feel me.
You don't get two phase.
So when niggas speak on like different situations and like, you feel me, it's like, I laugh
because that's why I told her call me
because it's like, nigga, I didn't
run into you, niggas. You niggas ain't asked me for no
fate, but I don't have no clout.
I don't have, I'm not famous, I don't have no earrings
in my ear right now. You feel me?
Then I'm a little bit more aggressive.
I'm not a celebrity, so I'm not thinking like I'm going to go home
next week. I'm thinking, nigga, time. Every time I go
to jail, it's time. You feel
me? Like, they just call me right now, like, from to raise my
bell. So it's like, everything is time.
You feel me? So it's like, when I'm sitting down,
it's like, Nick, I'm already in beast mode,
mad, because I'm already missing out on some shit.
So it's like, I know the different mind frames that we're having in that thing.
So it'd be like, I don't really play people.
I don't let people get close.
I don't get close because I want to be here for a short time, not a good one.
You feel me?
But if we're going to have a good time, it's going to be on my terms and conditions.
But like, okay, you're facing a murder charge and then you decide to have that many drugs on you in the county jail while you're waiting for your charge?
When you're fighting a case, you're thinking they offered me 268 years.
Oh, shit.
Two life sentences.
My first deal.
So you're feeling like you're done.
If it is, they tell them on me right here.
If I can't get this shit figured to fuck out, I know what happened.
You feel what I'm saying?
I know I didn't never warrant nothing.
I never came out the house like, yeah, I'm going to kill Adam.
You feel me?
Like, niggins just happened spontaneously.
You overstep my boundaries.
We squabble.
We could have left it at that.
But once y'all start whipping pistols out and all that, it's like, come on, bro.
I'm raised by you.
What do y'all think it's going to happen?
Nigger I'm going to choose me or you anytime.
But so you got caught in the county jail before you got a chance to go to trial for
murder for the trial for that so they was investigating once they hit the sale and found the dope
and all that shit a nigga from a trade ended up telling them he was like jails yeah jealousism
i'm making money don't know where it's coming from and uh he really was mad because i was dealing
with the neighborhoods you feel what i'm saying so it was like like you know politics just trying to
make money yeah just i'm just trying to feed my kids make money you know take the cheat off you
feel me make sure i'm i'm good you feel what i'm saying if i'm be here i'm lining myself up with
maskans i'm doing everything bro
Like, I really ain't.
So do you have to go to trial for the drugs and everything before the murder?
No, once they add charged me, I try to bail out.
When they didn't let me bail out, they raised the bill to $4.1 million.
When they raised the bell, I said all that waiting and playing and all this little shit,
mind you got one nigga sitting in high power that's going to testify.
You feel me?
So I pressed my prelim.
You feel?
I have a prelim for $18 months.
So it was like, once I pressed for prelim, got it through that, nigga, everybody got on the stand.
Do you see him?
No. You don't see Shady Avalon? No, you don't know.
No. Mexican lady got up there. When I drove by, I never told you I seen a face.
I never. So all these documents and all this little shit is like kind of like fake made
up and it's kind of like to get you tried, but at the same time it's not strong enough.
You feel what I'm saying? So when I'm starting lining my homies up and telling them like,
hey, bro, you know, Frank Lucas, you know, who you told on, right? They like, yeah.
Like, who? The police, niggas, and y'all, all the police. Like, stop playing with me.
Like, y'all are all sitting there.
They like, oh, bro, no, it ain't nothing like that, whatever.
What are you saying?
Sent the whole murder book.
Emailed the whole murder book.
Sent it to a four yard, three yards, sent it to the street, sent it everything.
So y'all think I'm lying?
Y'all think I'm just making something up because I'm like misery little company or something.
Like, what's going on?
So they end up fake offering me a deal, manslaughter.
Once they seen a prelim, then go in their favor, they like, this nigga,
get out of jail, run again.
We, I never catch them.
we like shit we'll give you manslaughter i'm like i'll take involuntary because i really didn't
volunteer to shoot this nigga like you've in me so i end up taking that deal and then they end up
giving me four years for the cell phones and dope so rank and current yeah four years for that
and then how much for the body seven six six years i did six years eight months so i maxed up
shit that's a pretty good deal all things considered huh yeah not bad yeah not so you do that and
are you while in prison that time as well
whole time like selling drugs as well no like I fell back like a little bit because I said I had a little
bit of money so I'm like I'm with dogs I didn't bought a gang of little micro bull dogs I didn't did like
you feel me a little bit of everything so it was like on more or less like as long as I'm maintaining
I'm just ready here to get a number maybe a TV sweatsuit and you know gang slide up out of here
my first 72 hours on orientation they got removed a nigga really you feel me
disrespecting somebody through the vent on some plan like the homie you like damn their
raised you feel me I ended up getting them about the building so they already got a write-up for
that so once I got to the line they already had shit fun me like man what's up bro you you mean
kickback man woo-woof two months later I get called manufacturing weapons get caught putting handles
on some shit go do a shoe turn for that um about like shit maybe nine 10 months after that
I'm programming decent like you feel I'm going to school doing all my shit the crippling blood
right happened over a poker game
You feel me?
So it was like, shit, we had to perform.
We have to do.
I'm just there weathering the storm.
I can't.
It ain't over till it's over.
But are you getting time out to your sentence from all this crazy?
I'm just losing it.
The credit that I got, I'm losing it.
So it's like the more I'm losing the credit that I got is like that's where the
max day come in at, not so early day.
So how many years you end up doing total?
Six years, eight months.
I mean, shit.
But you must have kind of been in there feeling like you got a really good deal.
Like as much as it sucks to be locked up.
Anything under 10, I told everybody that.
I'm like, anything under 10, I walk it off.
I ain't going to complain.
I ain't going to, you feel, me?
Like, I know what transpired.
I know, like, you feel me, I'm blessed at a certain degree.
Like, you feel me?
I even told Jay Hood the same thing.
Like, you feel me?
Bro, take that deal.
Why are you playing with these people?
Like, you feel me?
Like, certain people.
Then being offered deals, bro.
And, like, shit, they didn't already walk the time off that the deal was.
By the time you look up, shit, nigga.
They're talking about, oh, I'm going through the appeal process.
You know, I'm trying to, uh, but you didn't walk off that 15.
So now you got to do that 15 plus the five
And then you're gonna come out and then you go over feeling
You know a little angry and bitter about everybody not with you
Because at the end of the day we still with you
But you was just miserable the whole time
Right
Versus going in there and doing programming finding something to do
You know having a real set program
Right
Wait so do you feel like your neighborhood did enough
Like you you sent out the information about everybody who told on you
But did you feel like everybody did enough
to remove them from.
No.
That's a complaint I hear people make.
When I say showed up to my court date,
it was like the victim family,
probably in the front row on the wrong side,
you feel me, you know,
me mugging and all that.
The rest of the courtroom was my immediate real family,
moms, god moms, stepmoms.
I can't say step-mine, my shit cuts me out.
You know, second mom, like, you feel me,
like certain shit, like the rest was all homies.
Spectators, G-homies.
and they don't come out.
Like, it was like some shit.
They're like, man, I want to see.
I read it.
I want to see.
Like, once they started, like, putting my brother,
F.I. cards on me.
They, like, you, y'all thirsty.
Like, they, my lawyer was eating their ass up for, like,
a high second.
Then she got cold on me.
She kind of got cold on me at the end.
But she, she ate their ass up.
One gang, one gang expert got up there,
say he, been knowing me for 18 months.
We asked him, how long you've been working for Newton?
and he like, 18 months.
They like, well, you know, Shady been in jail for 18 months.
So how to, you, he's like, no, I just heard.
I've been hearing, like, his stories or everything, you know.
We got pictures of, you know, taggings and this and that.
They show the tagging and all that shit.
I'm like, that's my little homie.
Them is, them all, like, littles.
I don't tag.
I don't do none of that shit.
Like, I've been working spots and all type of shit in my whole life.
Like, you feel me?
Like, that ain't, I do, but I used to.
But so some of the people that,
told on you are still hanging out right there in the neighborhood even after it was fully exposed
right there to this day right there that's why i let them have it it's yours baby you can have you
can have this right here this little chunk of land right here and i'm gonna have the rest of the
world i i accept that why do you think that people don't have the courage to like fully x a
snitch out it's the shit that the game is so watered down now bro it's it's more or less like
this was my immediate cousin
oh no it's my people
hold on bro you all no no
versus hey no we just look
I'm just give you the boot
we just gonna you feel me
we ain't gonna get you killed
we ain't gonna put you in the alley
we ain't fin of you feel me what you got to stop coming over here
you know cover your tattoos up and get up out of here
bro live your best life it ain't for you
is that how it was when you were a kid
when I was coming some no
some niggas and shit I got
it's on me
and came up missing in my hood
and you're laying on somebody out of here
they get you up out of here
but nowadays they don't even
get it to kick somebody out
and show paperwork and all that
and they're not going to do nothing
do you think it's just because
people got homies
and they just my family
is because I feel like
I'm going to take something from it
or I don't want to take that
that penitentiary chance
to you feel it needs to say something
but at the same time
you're not understanding
the shit that you're accepting right now
is dictating the future
you feel what I'm saying
so if I don't condone it
if I don't care if you did tell
I don't, if you did tell
that's your prerogative, bro.
Don't come back over here with the chest
still poked out with the bitch,
you're supposed to be tires out.
Foe flats, nigger, humble pie.
Like, I'm seeing the exact opposite.
Nick what you mean? Like, nigga, you got me f***
because you can squabble because you really got a body
or two. You feel what I'm saying? Because your baby
mama and your uncle or your daddy from over here,
like you feel me, that's where the
dirty poly chicken came in with this shit.
You feel what I'm saying? It's like,
hold on. As soon as I heard about it. I got
something for that.
Call in.
Squad up.
What happened?
Man, I already know how this shit go.
You know what it's, you know what's going to happen.
You know what's going to go on.
Pull up.
Pull up.
Rip that up off and pull up, nigga.
I don't get fucking, nigga.
We got two home girls, nigga, yank that
back and keep the nigga throwing that shit
until it go out, nigga.
Pull right to fuck up, piled out
to all them Cubans and got cracking.
When you,
when you got out,
were you planning on, like, really
in your life this time around?
I did it.
I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do.
It's just I got-
And what year was that?
I came home in 2025.
Oh, okay.
Damn, so you fresh out.
I came on 25.
But I ended up catching a violation,
turned criminal threat, got dismissed.
And then shit, I ended up catching the assault,
got my truck got wrecked in Riverside going up in pool party,
they trade pool party.
Um, shit, I got jumped by some Mexicans.
Whole fan, it's on Instagram.
For real?
I jumped out some Mexicans.
Why'd they jump you?
Shit.
One went to sleep.
I ain't know that two other cars is his family.
Wrong place, wrong time?
No, I got cracking.
I ain't, never a wrong place for me.
It seemed like the wrong place in the wrong time,
but then you overturn that?
I got cracking.
Yeah, I got two bills right now, so it's like I ain't...
Oh, damn.
I'm trying my best.
You feel me?
I do everything, you feel me?
Oh, okay.
Duty supply, nigga.
I'm trying to do my merch shit right now.
I ain't playing.
Like, I'm trying hard as a month.
Is it hard to leave the streets behind to a certain extent?
If you really want to, it's not really, but it's just more or less the cross-talking is what you're familiar with.
You feel what I'm saying?
You ain't been a civilian, and it's like coming home from the Army.
You ain't been a civilian and walking around no thonged sandals, and I don't know how long.
So it's like every time you get up, I'm just now learning not to, like, have a gun with me all the time.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
Since I've been shot by it with that's the first situation.
I ain't been shot since.
I'm doing the shooting.
Pull up on me,
nigga your car,
I'm gonna blow your back lights out first.
Yeah.
Do any extra,
I'd rather accept
the back lights being blown out
than your head being blown off.
But if you try to bounce out,
your shit might get blown off.
Yeah,
I mean,
that's the ultimate trick bag
that they put you in in L.A.
is that the dudes that you know
who got felonies
who absolutely don't feel comfortable
not carrying a gun.
But that's a scary shit.
That's where you got
the little homies foe.
That's what you got,
the home girls
and all these different
you feel me?
So it'd just be like
it'd be weird now, bro.
It'd be real, real strange.
Wow, so this is you beefing
with like fighting like a whole Mexican family.
I beat the shot at with one cell phone.
The girls like coming over
and kicking you and shit.
They snap my hand.
And this is a fingers touch my wrist,
and this is 2025 when you were like fresh out
for real, huh?
How does this even happen though?
Like, why'd they run down on you?
Like that?
He was trying to like fake swap in from.
with me, but he was like, hey, let's take it to my people shit, whatever.
Oh, okay.
I'm like, nah, nigger, my truck brand new.
Like, red guts, I'm over here hot.
Like, all I got is gap insurance, nigger, like, what the f***?
He's like, yeah, oh.
Soon as I'm like, bro, call the police.
I'm still, you know, institutionalized.
I'm like, I can't call 911 on this one.
I know the number, but I don't, like, call the police on your shit.
You feel me?
Like, I'll stay right here, the car in my name,
so it's like I really would have just walked off if it wasn't.
You feel me?
like kept on posturing up and shit
the niggas slapped his thigh two times I parked
him
slapped his thigh
he like what are you like
and you just didn't like that
as soon as he tried to go for
my show's already coming full steam
yeah soon as you try to go for it
it was already budding boom
why do you think people try you
because I look like a baby
I'm not walking around
crunchy ass face
I'm not theatrical I ain't loud
boastful I just gained this way
If I was a regular guy, I think I would look at you and be like,
nah, I'm not gonna fuck with him.
Nah, they- Also, if I was just me right now.
Because the way I dress, it'd be in a little bit of everything, bro.
I really, like, I'm cool.
Like, you wouldn't even think I'm a game bang,
because I don't bang on niggas.
I don't do none of that shit.
All right, you ask me where I'm from.
I'm giving you the extras.
I'm little or nothing.
I'm gonna really flex like a gorilla.
I'm gonna do all that shit.
Give you to murder squad crib.
Like, you feel me?
I got a disrespectful name, too.
Like, I blow your ass out with that.
But it just be like,
I'm so humble pie now because I see it ain't got a nigger nowhere.
You feel me?
Everybody that is trying to be theatrical ain't got my stats.
Turn your baseball card over.
You ain't even gotten a game yet, fool.
You'll never make the All-Star Team.
Wait, so you mentioned a couple of different names that we're familiar with,
including B-Breys at one point in there.
That's my boy.
That's your boy, but did you have a squabble with him at one point?
Yep.
Where did this take place, and what was the vibe?
In the county?
4,800.
And how to go down?
We, uh, gambling.
We, uh, we, I gamble a lot.
That's one thing about me.
I, my, my, my, my, you look at my face.
I got a cold poker face.
Mm. You feel me?
So we gambling this shit and, uh, me, lefty, photos, gangsters, uh, tass from 9-7 gangsters, uh, braise,
D-boy, uh, blackie, and maybe like one more person, you know,
as people are standing by and all that shit, but it's like 25,
a buy in, you feel
me, and then keep on going,
you diso, you got to get your items back
or however you got to pay up or, you know,
Green Dot cat, however you're going to get it, you feel
me? Man,
one of my homies end up going down.
I told him get the fuck out the way.
I'm up on paper, Braise's up on paper.
I'm trying to get the whole,
I want everything.
I'm not a, I'm like poker world poker.
I want everything.
I want the whole pot.
Braise, like, he clear himself.
He like, once he started going down, you're like,
I'm going to take my extra credit.
I'm going to clear the homie, whatever we went.
So now I got two.
two more bloods right here, D-Boy and Blackie.
But now I'm playing against both of you niggins.
Frazes walking around the table,
looking at the hands and all that shit.
You know, he's making little move,
like, sheesh, and, like, different little comments.
I'm like, hey, bro, start me out.
He stopped.
You feel what I'm saying?
But when you fold your hand,
this nigga, like, looking at your hand
and, like, y'all looking at each other hands
to, like, basically go against me.
And I know that that's how it is already,
but don't make it obvious.
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I am playing.
I said, I said what I said.
Like you feel like me?
I'm like, hey, bro, can y'all please stop doing that?
So I said all in.
I had a bunk-ass hand.
I said all in.
I'm probably like $140 plus on the paper already, plus like 200 and chips.
You got probably 75 and you got probably 125.
I'm an all-in both of you niggis.
We playing wild car games and all type of shit,
call your own hand and all the little shit.
So it was like we end up having basically like six of a kind type shit.
all of us.
We all had a seat of a kind.
Nobody chose of a higher one.
Nobody, you feel me,
all end up matching up some shit like that.
Like, you know,
this nigga end up doing it again.
Showed the hand.
I said,
Brage, tell your homies,
bro, I'm not fend to keep on asking.
Dead homies.
He said dead homies back.
What that mean?
Oh, bro, we ain't got to do all that on the set.
We can just get down.
So when a nigga, like,
it's whatever.
I rode the shit,
the whole little sheet up off the table,
rolled the poker chips up,
told everybody they clear.
You feel me?
And hey, first sale, we're in there.
Nicka, hit the dough,
told the police rack the thing.
I run the module.
Hey, write this dog.
I'll tell you the door rack.
Put this tissue right in the door,
make sure you can't jam me up in there
and know nothing.
He don't know how to do all this.
He don't got juice for all this.
But I put myself in these type of situation
because I know I can get the fuck out of them.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it's like, I got nine homies in this module,
10 homies on his tier.
You feel me?
Little sooty resting piece.
A, Trey Gaines said, that was my co-defendant, 100 days, 100 nights.
Oh, so do you feel me, zigzag.
The homie from Southside Village.
Ray G. from Grape Street.
Shit, Greyhound, A. Tray Gang.
I can name them.
So these are all people that f***ing with you, and they're in there?
And they're right here.
They're officiating you and Bray's squabling?
They right here.
Bray's not even in a part of this squabble.
Oh.
Bray's not even in this.
Oh, okay.
Once I told the two niggas, y'all keep cheating me.
I'm going to get out with y'all.
Oh, you fought them?
I'm getting out with them.
So when I go in a cell,
Dee Boy getting there first.
Like, man, let me get down with blood.
Mind you, I'm already sitting in this module.
Y'all, all sellies.
I know how y'all playing these little tricky card game.
That's why I keep switching decks.
That's why I keep on doing certain shit.
You can't trick a trickster.
You feel me?
You can't all slick me.
I'm nickel slick.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
So it's like, I'm watching y'all play the little card games,
but I'm like, this is not even on the next hand.
So y'all are going to be going against each other.
Or I'll just fold and just let y'all go against each other
to see how the money shuffles and rotates.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I go in there and get down with Dee Boy first.
He like, let me get him.
We square off.
And once he sees me pill out in my karate body, he like, oh, hold the fuck up.
This ain't no little boy.
This ain't no little boy.
And I parked him.
Boom, bam, boom.
Made the phone ring.
The ring.
Phone rung into county jail, bro.
On gangster crib.
Next.
The nigga Blackie come up in there.
Six-fold.
Big old black bitch cocky.
talking about green mild looking at this nigga.
I'm like, you already know you're gonna get dug out, bro.
I just watch you get down with a nigga, too shade from 40s,
nigga and two shade light skin and little.
But he got stupid, he got a YA squabble.
So I scur off with him, I never switch no water,
never do, no, you feel me, no nothing.
Next person, we get in there, get cracking on him.
Once I'll take him to a knee, Bray's like,
kind of like, don't hit the homie while you down.
I flex on him like, don't touch me and I pushed him.
That's where it triggered him.
So the homies, like, don't touch the homie then.
Like, you feel me one of them, they pull him up off me.
He let Blackie up, whatever.
I'm like, you kind of like flopped right now, fool.
I didn't really, I even, you feel?
I ain't really, really, I know my hits.
Like, I'm grown now.
Like, you feel me?
Man, I get cracking on this nigga again.
Once he, like, hit the bed, I elbowed his eyebrows off.
Both his eyebrows, both of the motherfuckers came off.
He's like, man, get this thing off me, blood.
Help me, blood.
On lanes, get this, nigga, blood.
Bray's like, nigger, watch y'all blood.
Nick, that the home me up.
I said, he keep on getting on the ground.
I'm straddling him.
Like, we might as well just, I told you, I don't fight regular.
You standing up, I'm going to kick you, whatever.
I'm not in my hands is f*** up.
I'm not, I got nine, 10 punches in this one, about 45 in this one.
I got about 35 knees.
I got about 16 elbow.
I can count my shit through whatever I'm going through.
You feel me?
It's like when you're playing tech into something.
You know what I mean, Mom?
I, you get you got and all that year.
You got your stats?
You know your stats.
You know what you're capable of right now.
Wow.
You feel me?
So he ended up skipping up in there.
He's like, you ain't gonna do the homies like that.
And I never reset it.
And I really did get out with Blackie more than one round.
So it was like, okay, I'm kind of winded a little bit.
But I'm like, this little frail nigga is not gonna give me.
I watched you fight before.
Like, he got the same little cockfight, like,
came in there, he can't really see.
He took his glasses off.
Came in there and skipped in there.
Like, what's happening?
We got cracking.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Once I see, he's just going to, like, try to just lock up to say he got down with me
because it was really another blood.
They were like, nigga, get your ass in there.
He really did.
So, another nigga
off the top tier.
Like, nigga,
what you doing down there?
Nick, Nick,
get your ass up in there.
Niggas, nigga,
running through the homies.
He got up in there.
He got up in there.
I started, like, hit me.
I slang him,
hit him back.
He hit me three times.
I slank him,
hitting him back.
Like, I really wasn't,
like, trying to go there with him.
But it's like,
if you're going to get up in here,
I'm going to show you that you,
you met your maker.
Like, you feel me?
But I ain't really gas him up like that.
I ain't really gas him up like that.
I ain't really gas.
It built our relationship too, though.
So y'all were cool after that?
Yeah, we was cool after that.
We all didn't blew up the blood module after that.
He was right there.
He ended up D.P.
Blackie ended up getting D.P.
For not wanting to fight me again.
Oh, shit.
When he came back from the hospital,
he told everybody who was going to bust on me.
Damn.
That's a crazy one.
So next day, we end up having a riot.
Mm-hmm.
Because they told the D-Boy,
he clutched on me and Blackie dissed the set.
Blackie went to the hospital.
Deboi went to cell.
We ended up trying to get the nigga DP or whatever.
He came on a tear.
They tried to, like, ambush me, close the gate on me.
I see this shit happening, but I'm like, damn, I got my shit on me.
So it's like, nigga, now I'm posturing up.
I'm like, yeah, woo, ma'am.
Once I tell him, hey, the nigga said this, woo, woo, woo, he's like, they ain't say.
Knock him right out again.
D-boys clinked up, step over him.
I had a police open the gate.
May, wait a gate.
Nick, homeless, open the gate.
Like, oh, it's you shady?
Yeah, close the gate behind myself.
Now I didn't win and told the homies, and got my shit.
So why they walking up?
off the one tier to the other tier was like,
it was a crash.
Like, Nick, we supposed to did this yesterday.
When I had nine homies on the wall
when y'all thought y'all were lining me up.
You feel me?
So that's how we end up getting a little two-and-done shit
started in the county.
Word.
What's your history with Jay Hood?
Jay Hood.
I met Jay Hood a long, long time ago.
Just hearing his name, it's not that many Stevenson's.
You feel?
It's like I had an incident in Ironwood.
2012 one of his older homies.
I knocked his older homie out.
They had packed me in my cellie out of five on two coming from Mississippi.
He was getting like a layover right there.
We got into it over a shower.
We whooped them, niggas ass.
But when I met Jay Hood, he saved him from Stevenson, I brought up that situation.
And he like, man, my older homie, that's like my uncle, Nick, he told me.
So once he heard my name and she was like, Nick, I'm hearing your name, but I'm thinking you more like my age.
You feel, I'm saying?
because it's not really more,
it's not that many young niggas
move around like that.
You feel me?
Like once it gets to like NBA 2 in them era,
I don't even look at it no more.
I don't even,
you y'all smoke the fuck out,
look stupid as fuck.
Ain't really out here game banging.
Y'all like party crips or something,
party bloods or something.
You feel me?
See you at the concert type niggas,
you feel me?
Funerals.
But, so was Jay Hood really beat me up in there?
I think he said he was 205 at some point, right?
Jay Hood.
Jay Hood whoops ass
Yeah
Jay Hood
I tell you though
He can't fight
He does say that
Yeah
He can't fight
He hits hard as a
And he could take a punch
Right
That considers you a fighter
You feel me
Because you're not
Getting called out
And losing
Or you're not
They don't
You really coming in there
Like you can fight
And really just
Learning how
Like you feel me
But no
He didn't have so many
Squabbles
To where now
He knows how to pay attention
To your feet work
And
No choose his punches
differently because he used to be like a just I hate hard I'm just going there and take a punch
until he got his ass swirved got his ass spun out before yeah because he said that he has been
shot mad times and that that that's just that's just fissippers that's him up got zippers all that so he can't
really like fight good like he would have when he was younger like his stomach is tight and then he'd be
so fat in jail so it's like you feel me be so like you feel me just like just tight we said
he had six-pack before that stomach which is crazy like I I felt worse for him when
I heard that just to be like, damn, you had a six-pack?
For that zipper.
That's crazy they took the six-pack from you.
Yeah.
He was playing sports and shit, so you already know that.
He comes from a cold.
I know it's pops too.
Yeah.
I know it's pops too, studded boxing, yeah.
So how did you feel about the situation the shooter had when he was locked up?
It was, um, I already, I got, like, about five hours after it happened,
I already had the text message in the phone.
I already got it.
Like, that's how I kind of felt like it was some bummed.
So when Anne had called me or whatever, he like, man, you know, this just happened with
transpire, you feel me, how you feel about this, whatever.
I'm like, Cud know what he signed up for.
You feel me?
And he know how to respond.
He know how to do whatever.
Like you feel what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day, like if it happened, it happened to a gang of people.
You feel me?
It just makes him more, he's more of a celebrity.
So it's like he, it got out there a little bit faster.
You feel what I'm saying?
But when it comes down to niggas getting booked, Rob, niggas shit, Draco, you name them.
them. They didn't, I nigger rap books, earrings, chains, bracelets, it happens.
You feel what I'm saying? It's just when you subject yourself to certain things, you feel
me? It's like, I would unscrew my shit or like, you feel me? Like, I already knew because shit
was f*** up. You feel me? I already knew it shit was f*** up. But once I'm like, nigga,
that ain't no excuse. It's like, that's why I'm like, bro, this is what you signed up for.
That's where I'm like, man, I am not. I don't get a fuck. You already know. Call me right now,
or whatever. I seen a little interview with whack
and that's when I'm like, Nick, you ain't tapped in yet?
He's like, nigga, I'm just, nigga. I'm just
people calling my phone, nigga, what the fuck, nigga?
I'm like, all right.
Gave it a minute. And then he's like, nigga.
I'm like, you already know, brother. Dead homies.
Get ahead of it. Get ahead of it.
You feel me? If you really want to get ahead of it
and really bring this games and shit to the internet
like they want to to, she let them record it
and just go hard on dead homie. I'm putting big shit on you.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry to tell you.
I'm putting big shit on you.
Did you not appreciate that I feel like cartoon was the one who announced the DP to the world?
Carl, yeah, cartoon.
He called me, though.
Okay, he talked to you before it.
He called me.
He talked to you type of shit.
He was just trying to basically like, you know what I'm saying?
Let niggas know, because niggas be trying to pop it like, oh, they don't hold the homie
accountable for certain shit, you know what I'm saying?
So I'm like, when he holler at me, I'm like, y'all understand, you know what I'm saying?
Like, oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, another niggas, they don't know what's going on, you know what I'm saying?
But cug caught me though.
Like, you already know what you got to come and shoot.
I'm like, I'm going to hear like your arm up.
I already know, nigga, you know what I'm saying?
You should be popping out of socket.
The homie's going to be there.
That shit going to pop out of socket, nigga.
And on Avalon crap, how they're going to slap it back in,
and you keep going to get that shit over with.
That shit, that's what happened.
Oh, nigga, get a baby bottle.
Yeah.
Put that baby thing up.
That baby pop, pop, pop, pop, and put that up because I know you get mad.
And nigga, pull up.
It's just part of life.
It is what it is.
At the end of the day, it's not really even for the streets
to the internet, bro. It's grooming.
That's what niggas don't understand. I'm cool.
If you still saying you game banging,
this is your image on the internet, nigga,
I'm still at my age and I'm still holding up.
I'm full yard banging.
You feel what I'm saying? I can show you all my paperwork.
I can show you every crime I ever committed.
I can, nigga, I can play the game with you.
You feel me? I can put, nigga, paperwork on other people
where I can show shit, I can say shit about people,
nigger, all type of shit. That's not what a nigga
here for, you feel like, you feel me, to show you that you feel
me, to show you that you can change, you can do something different.
You feel me?
Can't go do this
And then you feel me?
You can't.
It's called recreating.
It's called culminating.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it's like once you elevate
and you start thinking about cars,
these kids,
all these kids you didn't have
and the prison terms that are
and did and all the receipts you got,
it's like,
nigga I'm going for the bag, bro.
The bitch,
that's all that's going to come
with the bag.
You feel what I'm saying?
That's why I tell all these little niggas
go get a bag.
You got put on the set?
I liked him because he had money.
He liked to go get money.
Your name baby shooter,
you're under my.
His big homie is my little.
His little is the big is my little.
Little famous store.
You feel me?
So it's like, I'm not fin of sit here
and tell you go do something that I no longer do, bro.
I'm getting a bag too.
When you and your truck and you need these Porsches and all that,
Nick, I'm in X-5s and I'm doing my thing too.
Nick, I'm in cutlasses, Jeep bodies,
and I'm pull up, nigga, come with me.
Like, nigga, I'm going to show you.
Like, nigga, it's a lot more to the streets
than right here than pull it with a barrel or bottle
and hanging in the set, ladies, niggas,
nigger rip you the shreds.
You didn't got drunk and paid for two rooms.
and you ain't even fin to stay here.
You got a whole house.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it was like, I'll be trying to tell these niggas to go get a bag.
Like some people can work.
Some people can really go do a lot of different shit.
Some people got talents.
Yeah.
Some niggas can wrap.
I see, so you didn't believe I had a million dollars on.
Some niggas can wrap.
Well, I asked Wack and Wack confirmed it.
But, yeah, because I was just like, I don't know where that money would come from.
And then he told me it was because of that one thing.
I had a million, I had a million dollars before that.
Oh, for that too?
No, like, I'm talking about back then, though.
Oh, all right.
Like, we didn't touch millions off the streets.
Yeah?
Hell yeah.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I ain't gonna say, like, I had a million to myself,
but I didn't see the million dollars, you know what I'm like?
I don't probably don't know.
I mean, shit.
Before YouTube, I definitely didn't.
Yeah, yeah.
You're having that shit, man.
Oh, man.
But how did you feel about the situation that N.
The N.
The end of the situation that N.
Heems to have got himself caught up in.
It's hurtful, man.
When I know that's my brother, bro.
You feel?
That's my real brother.
When I got in my situation, he's like,
nigga, whatever you need, I got to.
Like, you feel me?
Brought me up here on one of his little skits.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
You're trying to show me something different,
but it's at the same time it's like a nigger fall victim to circumstances.
My shit happened in five minutes.
I wasn't in my hood five minutes.
I could really kind of, nigga, pick up some money,
nigga swap a debit card out with the next.
And by the time you look up, I said what I said.
You said, we fight him.
You feel me?
So it's like, I can understand a nigga,
going to go get something for the family
because he's so family-orientated.
You feel what I'm saying?
But that's where I'm telling him, like,
nigga, that's where you got this,
you got this bad bitch, bro.
You feel me?
Come on, you got baby mama.
You got, that's what the woman felt.
Like, I understand that you're the man.
You don't want her in certain areas
and all that type of shit.
But when you become a certain statue,
they don't put that shit everywhere.
You ain't going to see a Lincoln sitting up
a nigga in South Park.
You ain't going to see a nigga Martin Luther King
sitting up at no jumper?
They put them in certain places.
You feel what I'm saying?
So when you consider yourself a certain figure in,
hey, I'd rather do you.
door dash that shit, fool.
You feel me?
But I can't really say that your circumstances
is no different to anybody else's.
It's called a victim of circumstance.
I'm still doing this.
I still got this going on.
My name is this,
but at the same time it's like,
but what I'll tell you about my discovery?
Open that motherfucker up.
This ain't right.
This ain't real.
They line about this.
They over exaggerating this right here.
Okay, cool.
By the time you look up,
the motherfucker gonna get a lower bell.
Be sitting right here back at this.
I'm all, yeah, bitches, I'm back.
You feel me, with more to even more to say
because I feel some type of way.
I got tricked out my position before.
I was fixing cars and working at a tattoo shot.
Right.
You feel me?
Chilling.
I'm not bothering nobody.
When I do come to the hood, it's a bottle, it's a function.
We all, nigger, taking pictures.
You feel me?
We all look good.
Homies is proud.
Like, now you go over there right now.
It's just a whole lot of fingers twisting,
standing around on the corner, no spots, no nothing.
I'm not going to tell this nigga,
So, hey, give me $10,000.
I'm going to go get it to the homies.
You get me 10 bands.
I'm going to go get that a storefront somewhere.
If the niggas have enough gas made to make it over there,
then you feel me, you can patronize and, I believe $20 in your pocket,
you patronize him.
You can sit in the front of the lobby, do whatever you want to do all goddamn day.
You've got to hide out on this.
Right.
Get the fuck away from me.
Come on through every day.
Because, like, the whole street dream is kind of dead, right?
Bro.
When a rapper can see you and tell you about a drill better than you,
and you vibe into that shit, something wrong with you.
Right.
But I even mean just like the Coke selling dream that they like sold to us in music.
The real people that you think is selling Coke, it's a facade that they put in on.
They really probably, and they got a telemarketing jobs where they got a cyber tech company that they're doing right here.
It's a facade.
You got football players want to look like rappers.
You got this person want to look like that.
You got this.
You got strippers want to look like the go real.
Come on, man.
Everybody's trying to look like something.
Yeah.
It's whoever to f*** you imitate.
You got a boy want to like a girl.
Shit.
It just feels like.
It's like almost impossible to be like a career criminal drug dealer in the way that...
If you is, you're not going to have no social media.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you is, you're not going to be on no social media.
If I think I'm still in the street, so I'm talking to you right now, I'm not going to be all a nigger right here.
Yeah, nigga, you go boo bam, shoot him up bang bang, yeah, I'm a nigga disrespect.
I'm not doing that when you're going to see me at Sunday, Sunday.
You might see me in a mall right now with these little ass shorts on.
I interviewed the dude yesterday who, like, all his music, he's talking about how many bricks he has.
or had, you know?
It sounds great.
I'm like asking them questions about it,
but I'm trying to figure it out.
Like, for real, yeah.
Bro, it sounds great.
That shit sounds great when you're listening to it
when you're down and out.
Yeah.
That shit sounds hard as a...
Oh, yeah.
Keith Meyer?
That shit sounds tough as fuck.
Going all that,
nigga, Lil Durk and drilling and all that now
go look at a little dirk situation.
Exactly.
You feel me?
I won't tell the nigga go do nothing.
I'm not telling you, if it ain't already in your body,
I'm not telling you go to nothing.
If you don't want to fuck your bitch
and like, let's go home, nigga, man, come on, get out the street,
go f-fuck your bitch, man, fuck your bitch.
My priorities are intact.
But Dirk's situation is so crazy,
because that's pretty, it's like what he was telling us
that he was doing in the music all those years,
which is like, yo, I'm, I'm a send a hit.
And, like, you're just thinking he's rapping.
And then, no, you can't really say he's sending them, though.
You can't say he's sending them.
What, you're not convinced?
No, because I know I'm a street nigger.
I got a body.
I ain't nobody seen me to do shit.
Right.
But with his shit, there's,
There's much more evidence that he like...
I'm hanging around you already.
I'm not going to let nobody give you a black eye.
If you came, like I told you earlier,
if you came with me in the club,
you're not getting a black eye, bro.
You're with me.
Right.
I know you might not be a shooter.
You might have more to lose to me.
It's a nigga right here.
Future talk about you on you.
You ain't saying nothing about him.
Nick, I got a nigga right here
to take you off with some Jordans.
A PJ.
Come on, man.
It's like you can't put you can.
It's music, bro.
I might be living it.
I might not.
It's for you to decide.
I'm making it for you.
I'm making it for you.
Yeah.
So you don't look down on somebody who raps about bodies that he didn't catch?
Not an NBA young boy.
He wanted to sing love songs now.
He didn't say he didn't drill in those shit and got 10 chains took and killed everybody.
I'm not, I don't point fingers, bro.
But if you find out that a rapper that you like is talking about some shit that his friends did, like, oh.
That's most of these,
niggas. What are you talking about? I know, but like that, would you consider that to be
fraud? No. No. No, I agree. That's a smart man.
As long as he don't get called talking about murder for hire, shit. Yeah.
You get called a smarter nigga that don't want no cell phone,
nigga, like niggins, and shit. Don't like flashy, shit, never are on camera.
Little Wayne say, Marley don't shoot him. Have you ever seen Marley?
Nah.
All right. We'll keep going with that.
For sure.
We keep going with that.
Always one of them niggas in the cut.
For sure.
So what, what, uh, what's your purpose in life now at this point?
Haven't learned all these lessons, been through so much shit.
Kids, podcasting, just financial game, bro.
You feel me, loans and ain't, no, no, like, you feel me, I ain't selling my soul.
I don't know fraudulent shit.
You feel me, I ain't lining myself up with bunk people.
I know everything I love.
I can make money and do anything.
I want to, kids?
I got a 19, 15 that I claim.
She's from the set down, too.
Oh, shit.
She's a lady famous star.
I got a 13, 12, 10, and one from B8.
Oh, wow.
The whole collection.
You think you're going to make some more?
Hell yeah.
Shit, late-time about, niggas.
Shit, go to court Friday.
Your 15-year-old daughter is from the hood now.
Yeah.
Was that a big decision?
Like, were you consulted or just happened?
I was consulted because they know I was going to trip.
I was in jail.
I was in jail.
It was like once they tried to, like, she tried to make that little leap.
I've seen the weird shit going on already
So it was like once you try to make that leap
It was like
Don't do it
I gave her the ultimatum like I can show you paper
I can show you all type of stuff babe
Like you ain't you I did enough for us
You can walk around that muff
And get your nails done every week
Like niggas gonna get you money
Just bouncing out like
The whole my whole squad love you like
So she like if you don't let me get put on
Like basically I'm shit
She tried to turn hoover
Oh shit
So I called the hoovers
Hey bro that's my daughter
it's not going to go well.
I'm letting y'all know right now,
like I'm putting a warning stamp label on their hazard.
So they're like, man, just come get her, bro.
They end up giving her the boot.
I told her if that's what you want to do, shit,
you know where to go.
You know where to go, you know what to do?
And shit, she went over there and did her shit.
Damn.
She in camp right now.
That's crazy.
She ain't camp right now.
Ever since Chunky Barbie pepper spread the office,
I've thought differently about the female gang members, man.
I'm saying
Some people ain't studio
Some people ain't studio
We got a lot of
A lot of rough edge
Like type of home girls
I ain't gonna lie
Tattoed face head
Nicker they for sure
Gonna try to pop at your ass
That your car on fire
These bitches is crazy
Yeah
Because like when I'm sitting there with her
I'm telling her
Like I
We smoked
Yeah DC
We smoked her too good
We smoked a bunch of weed right
So I'm overly hot
She's supposed to f***
Her when he tithe
Yeah
I heard it still
all over.
Oh, hell.
I heard that's still his baby even after she destroyed his car.
But I'm high as fucking.
Just looking at her hand with the big HK on her hand and just being like, bro, like,
you got to understand the type of women that I'm around typically.
And I'm like hanging out with you, you got this shit on you.
Like, what the fuck?
That shit's sexy when you drunk.
That shit looks sexy when you drunk.
But when you start having real conversation and stop at a gas station and you ask a bitch,
which she went off that, it's going to automatically turn you off.
automatically this bitch want to go get another cut water this bitch want to go get some swishers
this bitch ain't pick up no gum no condoms this bitch you feel me and definitely got a female
condom in her purse like you feel me it'd be that should have turned you off eventually like you
that's why it's like a lot of niggas don't fuck with that shit nah for sure if I'm not a girl like
when I was young I'd be on it I got cousins I got cousins so I was like I got some loyal like house
women like type you feel me oras but you when that call come it's like me got putting them
Chuck some. I like them kind.
Yeah. Them kind cute.
They cool.
Friday, Saturday type game bang, bitch.
I remember I met this Asian girl
who told me she was a blood back in the Dan Long Beach
and that should turn me on like crazy.
She was a lot. She's just talking about
shooting at somebody. She probably wasn't no blood
or she was probably from SOS or stuff.
Nah, because I seen her like a couple
years ago and she like was mortified
when I mentioned her saying that.
I can tell she didn't want me
to bring that up.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't got no bloods in Long Beach like that.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Y'all don't want, but what no blood?
I'm going to be in one beach, I ain't right.
But I brought that up.
I'm like, you were talking about being in a blood and shooting something.
She's like, oh my God, like I could tell she didn't want to talk about it at all.
Everything.
Yeah.
Not real.
All right.
All right.
You want people to tap in with to like, you know, stay up on everything you already know.
Man.
At Mr. Fucker Friend underscore Jr., man.
Shadier underscore everything.
Shady A said it.
Find me all my pages open, man.
I'll be up.
here soon.
Adam gonna make some good decisions, man.
Nah, you got some star power.
I think they're gonna make some decisions, man.
You hear me?
He didn't see my last interview.
He was over there under the weather
when I came up with one again last time.
Oh, you did one with that?
Yeah, I took a Ricky seat.
They clown Ricky ass.
What, it was on the news or something?
We was on the, I think it was a Tuesday show.
Oh, shit.
Y'all said to you probably didn't see it.
You said me that?
And they was clowning Ricky and shit,
and they started shouting me out and all that shit.
They're like, man, leave this nigga.
Here. Whoever came in that little last 10 minutes, that nigga need to stay because y'all...
Who was it?
It was like the black nigga. They called him all type of uncle Tom.
Oh, just Rakey?
They was called the nigga Uncle Tom's and all the type of shit.
Yeah. He gets a lot of shit for being a little too normal.
You're like...
I don't even see that in the Valley no more.
You can't see that in Apple Valley.
What? Just a square-ass black dude?
You can't see that shit in Mercedes.
For real?
That shit is like...
I feel like there's a lot of square black dudes that's just not hanging out with y'all.
Yeah, but then that's where you start and you start dissecting it.
Was you raised by your mama, your grandmama,
and then that's where we're going to build your character at right there.
Okay.
Because I might take you to a bar,
and you might try to hit me like,
they hit a nigga like that.
Bitch,
like, and I can't hang with you no more.
You feel me?
So you can't,
you can't be cool with a black dude
who has not defined himself through violence.
It ain't, you define yourself to body.
If I don't see no masculinity,
I'm creating a monster.
I'm condoning your bunk.
the bitches that I hang out with
is not gonna buy.
Who is that the gay boy right there?
Who is that soft nigga?
Like, bitch,
you can do is buy drinks for us.
I don't need you to drive
because you're gonna freeze up
when you hear a gunshot.
I don't know you like that,
but I'm not judging,
but I'm saying that shit is not,
you probably got one girlfriend
you've been with since the junior high school
and she hates your ass.
I like to know you like a man.
Wait, but so you can't,
you cannot be cool with a gay dude on any level?
I don't have no,
I tattoo on them.
I do all that.
I don't know.
Homophobic, none of that shit.
Oh, okay.
No, I'm gonna just don't touch me, like, all that, that making slick comments and shit, I'm not with that.
Yeah.
Even, but any, you know, all your, niggins, who, pass the blood, yeah, but all that.
Bricking out your cup?
No, I ain't doing that.
I hung out with some bitches.
They were like, nigga, I'm like, pass the point.
It's like, nigga, you're overreacting about, tripping about your blunt?
This nigga suck more dick than us.
I'm like, oh, it made me just.
I feel like there's nothing that brushing your teeth can't fix.
Oh, God.
Pass me the blunt.
I don't care if you suck the dick this morning.
Any nigger that says that eat ass.
I do that too, yeah.
Any niggas say that eat ass.
That's not cool?
That's straight with me.
Oh, it's a...
400 daddy with me.
This dude is crazy.
You eat coochie good to eat the ass right.
Holy shit.
All right, tap in with Shady Avalon, man.
Shooter.
You got a good taste because he's a star right, man.
I told you me.
I'm going to bring the radio ones in.
Show me in, man.
We locked in.
I got to tuck in.
I was waiting on a...
The answer call.
He said he was going to call.
Oh,
that niggas still sleep, yeah.
Oh, shit.
Damn,
yeah, free of the,
free the,
headway.
And he'd be calling me.
I'd be like,
what's up, bro?
Just got done grilling.
You know,
maybe something.
I'm like,
nigga,
I already know.
Like,
you're up here
trying to make something
sound good and taste good.
Damn,
so you live in large in there?
No, we don't play.
That's one thing.
We ain't,
that grill going off.
Yeah.
That grill,
you set that,
on fire.
My spread game,
dope. We can do all that.
Oh, I believe it. We should set that up sometime.
We can do a start of batch of prune on this.
I can do white light.
Go on my Instagram.
Go on Mr. Frient.
All that's on my shit.
I live in a jail cell, everything.
I play games.
My shit ain't empty and echoing like some people.
Oh, yeah?
No, my shit ain't echoing, bro.
Who's echoing?
Shit.
I've seen some podcasts with some bad sound out here.
Shit, it's jail cells too.
Oh, yeah, that too.
I want to see one, like, Braves or somebody.
I want to see them sneak in like a real camera with a mic and shit
so they could be a prison vlogger, but not just off the phone.
Not on that level.
Not on that level that they own.
If he come down, he'll probably be able to get access to it.
Oh, yeah.
He comes down, he got to go 50-50.
You can't hoop that camera, though.
Shit, ain't nobody doing no hooping.
Oh, okay.
He's just going to get caught with that shit.
Hoop dreams.
They say shit, Tori Lane's got called with a whole goddamn mixer.
In his ass?
I don't know just on his dad.
That's the shit.
That's probably why the man's getting Doug in it so good.
I mean, he put out like a crazy album that sounded like super professional,
so I guess it makes sense that you got that.
Yeah.
Yeah, as I'm saying, he had a mixer and the sound thing and all that.
That actually makes sense because otherwise I don't know how the hell they made that shit sound so good.
That's probably why the essay is like, nigga, give me a song, fool, or you never know.
I heard it was over a girl or something, but.
Not mind of your business.
Shady Avalon, yo, shooter, appreciate you, man.
Thank you for, uh, bring him.
What's up?
Shady Avalon.
Appreciate it, Doug.
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