No Jumper - Sharp Debates New Media With Flakko, Riemoh & Ceddy Nash!

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

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The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, this is a special edition, you know, because I got some of my media friends in the building, man, some of the best behind the camera and on camera. You know what I'm saying? I got my man, Mr. Flacco in the building today.

Everybody know what it is, man. Everybody know the face. Everybody know what you do, man. We got, man, the legendary Setti Nash in the building. I really appreciate him. Highland for blessed, man. Blessing good, man. We happy to have you here today, man.

They've been wanting this to happen for a minute. They needed this sharpest study, national next year. And then we got my man, one and only, not a phony. Mr. Remo himself. In the building. First time on a sharp tank. It's the first time right here, man, you know. And why I wanted to bring this together because I wanted to shine some light

because it was crazy, you know, the day that, you know, we was talking about, you know, the media and, like, new media in it, how it's, you know, Flacco's saying, you know, he's dropped one of the most impactful videos, you know what I'm saying, in the last 10 years. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna stand with you on that, Flokker.

That's how you feel. Hey, man, we're here to let that out. And then we had got SETI Nash on the phone that day. You know, Sadi Nash came, called in or we had called you, gave your two cents in on it. You know what the media is, you know, and things like that briefly.

And then, you know, Rimo was there. Rimo had a lot to say about it, too. You know, being a part of this, you know, and understanding what it was. the new media is yeah you know and I felt like we needed to put a magnifying glass on it a bit you know give it it's roses but you know let's see who's really holding rank around this not between y'all but between like you know the the king you i'm saying the king 47 okay 47's and the you know i'm saying to say cheeses the people that's moving you know what i'm saying we'll leave

no jumper even out of the mix so uh oh oh oh geez is not wait though like so so like we first have to yeah like like we first have to like the five line it, right? Right. Like to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you kind of coined this new media term. So this is, this is, this is like those creation. I will give them 100% credit. Yeah, like, let's be clear here.

Like the say cheeses, the no jumpers, the academics, like, yeah. They, like, they have a sender. Like, they're no longer new media, right? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Like, dumb niggas at this point are embedded into the infrastructure of media, right, right, right, you know. Yeah. They do business with the label. with these artists is, right? So they are a part of the infrastructure, right? And at times when we look at it, it kind of get tough to separate their opinion the opinions that they have to say

to continue to do business with the infrastructure, right? So when I think about new media, the independent young, here, right? I'll say this. There's the pre-pandemic niggas and the posts, right? So, like, 2016, 2015 was, was like this,

this, like, a new crop of, you know, new crop of, like, of the ax, the say cheeses, the no jumpers, right? You know, and then, like, it's like, it's the Hollywood unlocks, you know, the bosses, right? They all sort of start around 2016,

2017, right? Yeah, so, I was like, we're post-2020, right? Right. And, yeah, you feel me? Yeah, right. You know, like us, you know, you know, the King AKs, the Genspitters, the 1090 JX, you feel me, right?

Yeah. That's the new media. The St. Cheese is no longer count as new media. They have, like, elevated into the infrastructure. Yeah. Because they're fully into the industry. So, you know, they have the ability to say stuff, but they won't do the relationships. Yeah.

Where we coming at it flat out, our opinion can sway the whole entire population. If I say I'm not rocked with this person. The next down the line, brody say he ain't rocking with her. The homie say he ain't rocking with her. Then boom, that pushes a whole entire thing. Like for a prime example, when the gun and stuff came out, I was the one who dropped that. That algorithm was on my back.

You get what I'm saying? And they sold it. They did. But I'm cool with that. I'm not going to lie. I'll keep it 100. SETI Natch definitely cracked off the gun and snitching video 100%. He was the first page to pop that shit off.

Right. Easily. Because I exonerated them from snitching when it originally came out. And then I think I posted on a jumper and then from there it did this thing. And with though. So, and now looking back, right? And who credit study Nash for dropping that? Nobody.

Why? Because if I have power and impact like that, I could sway the masses. Or, right? Or look, though, right? So, look, so, like, the conversation is much deeper, right? And this is where I go into, why don't we mobilize, right, meaning this, right? If that was taken from you, right, stolen, and if you were given the right, the right credit, right? That would have done marriage for you, right?

It would have. But if our work can be stolen and we don't, right, and given by somebody bigger, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You got to, there's just qualifiers, right? You had to have a million, but then your peers also had to acknowledge you as well. So it doesn't matter if there's somebody who's in the backseat of somewhere making all type of videos and all that stuff. And they got a ton of followers.

It's does your peers acknowledge you? You ain't nothing to your peers acknowledge you. So that's where people misconstrued everything. It's like, it's not just that I'm watching you. It's he watching you. watching you is he watching you are you watching them you get what I'm saying so your acknowledgement comes from all that and that's one of the things that people tend to be flustered and pissed off about you know what I'm saying right so oh hey our question

there right so what's in place then to protect you from being pillage and stolen from right this right this right right if you would have said nah bro like that's wrong they stole from me and start going ahead and I make him look weird, right? That's how they're going to take it. Or, right, or look, right, or look, if you say, now that's wrong, it's going for me, right? And start going off and they say, oh, word, I, use our new target.

We get into the fuck out of here. What's stopping you from getting the fuck up out of here? Relationships with people that they don't like. Wait, the post, though, right? Man the brothers. Right? Steve. Yes, but guess what though?

we not mobilize enough to where we can withstand the attacks from the infrastructure, meaning this, right? If a with $4 million plus, $5 million, right, says, yo, I want to get SadiNast the out of here, and he links up with his partners of legacy media and say, yo, he's our new target. Guess what? You are out of here. Why?

Because we aren't mobilized enough as new media, right? To say, oh, SETI being attacked by the legacy. media by the infrastructure, yo, let's all come together. Rally for Setti Nash, right? And protect Siti Nash, right? Through what? Funds, through the network, right? Right.

We, like, we personally don't have the infrastructure in place to protect ourselves, right? That's why I always preach, bro. We need to mobilize because I already see the play coming up. If we think these are about to allow us into the industry or into the door, our black just got a rude awakening coming. You're in the industry already.

You're on no jumper. What are you talking about? See now that's where the problem come in because like you don't feel like you in the door already? Wait, though. You're on a mainstream platform. So like, you're in the door. Wait, though.

The goal is not the opportunity, it's the security. Meaning I'm on no jumper today. If I say something on no jumper today that the infrastructure don't like, my is going by tomorrow, right? I can't argue that. The goal is security, not the opportunity. I can't argue that.

It's cool. Listen, I love a jumper, right? Right. It's blessed me with things that I never thought that I'll be able to accomplish. But guess what? If I say something, the infrastructure, the infrastructure.

Who's the infrastructure in this case? You're talking about Adam and Josh? Like, who are we talking about? Sure. Okay, right? Look, right? Yeah, because you have to define these words that you're using needs to seek definitions.

is just short ones. So legacy is what? If I say something that goes against the gatekeepers of the industry, meaning like- Who are the gatekeepers? Sure, sure, sure, sure. Here, right? So look, it's like eye heart, right? Okay. BT CEO, Vince is right, right?

The dudes at the top. If they say, hey, yo, Adam, bro, that little stuttering in there, he's doing too much. He's, you know, like, say too much truth. we can't have that. I'm going the next day. I mean, yeah. I don't agree with that. Truth.

I mean, I would hope you would use the words along the lines of like, you know, just saying something that people may not agree with. You know what I'm saying? But to say that it would be truth, yeah, you're kind of like throwing yourself in the fire at that point, right? Like, to say like, you know, they're going to come at me for me speaking truth.

Yes. All right. Even if he was, even if he was speaking truth. Adam's not the type of, this is independent media over here. Adam ain't firing nobody. the word of iHeart media b-et they don't want to add them anyway yeah that's because adam being canceled so that's what i'm saying so we're already on a platform that's been quote-unquote canceled or whatever so like i don't really see how you saying the higher-ups the

infrastructure sure knock you out your place sure look right so look i'm saying that you are naive right to even like anybody is it's like naive to think if you are on another man's platform and you become too much trouble than you're worth that you got the protection of state you was out of your mind meaning me neither a listen nigga and if the gatekeeper say yo yo adam sponsors is gone uh ad revenue is going my position is going to get patron is going nigga we yo adam we are getting you to out of here if you let that little black nigger sit on your platform and talk about us nigger you is going the next day it's that simple right

again Adam ain't no bad person for that though no why business is business right business at the end of the day hey listen hey and that's every company though right like nigga you what is if you work in that's how it's supposed to go if your image tarnishes the brand and we start losing money I have to let you go because you're bleeding us out you can't rock the boat

yeah but I get what you're saying but see here's the thing right and then it comes on us we still had to find these smaller media that's jumping off as well in these apps and run over there with them as well. There are some streaming services right now that does need it. So I'm with you 100%, but if we're going to say essentially shop small,

then you got to go get small. I think what Flacco is trying to say is if everybody came together, it would make the voice of the opinion bigger than Flaco saying something by himself. He's going to look for a SETI Nash and you know all the other independent new media. to step in with him and say, hey, this is the move that we're making.

Right. If Flacco's the only one doing it and nobody's shown, like you said, like you need the support from the people that you fuck with to make that shit bigger. But when you're doing it by yourself, who's really listed? It is either going to, A, make you look like a hater or B, you're running out of content. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just going to look weird.

You know what I'm saying? You got to have, I feel that. Like, I don't know. It's crazy. Or look right. Look the right. Listen, right. So also tools like this, bro, like again, back to the,

protection, right? Yeah. I just feel like us as new media, we don't have the infrastructure in place to protect ourselves. We don't. Look, look, here, right? For example, right? So, look, so there was a time, right, like, where, like, I had, like, of video, right? I said, yo, listen, can you post this, right? You feel me? Like, right, like, contact. What were we talking about? No, no, no, no, no. Hair, right? So, what you said, if? Yeah. No, no, no, no, look. So this was, like, I think, like, like two months ago, right? I had a very viral opinion on my platform, right? And I contacted a bunch of new media blogs, right?

You didn't hear me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like the news pages. Okay, right? And say, yo, can y'all pose this? And the one thing that I saw was, and I said, damn, yo, we are in a world of trouble. A nigger said, yo, bro, I can't post this, bro, because, like, because if I post this, and that nigga might get my page clap, bro, like, I'm scared of this nigga, right? Can you say who it was or no?

Here, here, here. Not the person, but the opinion that you were, or what you were dropping. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, right? But, though, I'm going to show you, like, the exact message, right? All right? Take it time. And they were terrified of legacy media, of somebody who exists in legacy media, because they felt as if, yo, there's no protection for me, nigga. Like, if I even post anything that goes against this person, my livelihood is gone.

And I'm like, yo, listen, like, if we were, again, we're, we're, like, together. If we walked in unison, then the new media niggas won't live in fucking. Dare fright of these legacy media niggas, right? So of the people you feel like as a higher-up. Yeah. So Saturday Nash, do you live in dare fright of the legacy media? No. But I did have to kind of clean up certain things, right?

When I first jumped off of YouTube, I had the blue rag on and stuff like that and it was because these cause. So you feel like it was the image? You had to switch up or? I did. You're me, your content at hand. The content was good, but it was the imagery. Yeah. But the imagery is also what got me to shoot up.

You know what I'm saying? The first video I dropped. Boom, it went viral. Second video, went viral. Third video went viral. Then I just started to notice, I'm a whole entire algorithm. But what ends up happening is there was a record exec who was like he would, you know, let him have me interview one of his artists, but that imagery that I'm putting out is bad for business.

Then, you know, what about the red racks? You know what about them? They're not going to want to, you know, do business with you and everything like that. So basically, yeah, I ain't going to do that. Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. Look, look, there's more. Oh, look.

Estes more information for you, way. Yeah, he said, oh, there's more. Hold on. These niggas are terrified, bro. Right? Again. You know, you burn the house down, right? The most effective way.

Wow. Inside. Facts, right? Facts. You got to learn how to play the position, Flocko. We talked about this. Yes, right? But though, like, and show something, though, if...

But we don't need him starting any fires on the inside anything either, though. No, no, no, no, no, no. I feel you because I didn't get, I didn't see what was in the phone. I'm just going off of the conversation in hand, you know, and for you to tell him, like, you know, how you meet him is from the inside, like, oh, on, like, where are we going with that conversation? But I mean, I mean, essentially at their own game, because if I could trip you up, I can make you fall eventually.

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Not saying, be a negative person, but what I'm saying? person, but what I'm saying is sometimes a lot of people like being vinegar when you're supposed to be honey. There's a time and a place for everything and their structure is set because you have to play a certain type of way and a certain

type of role. It just is what it is. Because if I were to came out and constantly just like banging on cats and everything like that, I don't know what my perception is to everybody else. Regardless of how proficiently I can articulate myself to the Vox Populi, that does not matter. How did you find the growth?

How do you feel like you found the growth in in all this, the change, the transition? from what you once were to what you kind of had to become if you wanted to continue to do content. I could have still did it and all that, but like I said, the peers' acknowledgement

and everything like that, it wasn't going to come. Yeah. Because what ends up happening is you had to have this ability, and I took it from Colin Calhara to sports dude. He said, you had to want to get it right and not be right.

You can be dead right or dead right. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I'm right. I'm absolutely right. Or, no, I'm dead. I'm out the water now. It's gone.

But I'm right still. You get what I'm saying? So that's what I had to learn to adapt to do in all of these days in order to do all that. Because they meet me, some of these people really think I'm a short, small, little tiny guy. You get what I'm saying? And then they meet me. They're like, oh, this is a big-ass dude. Now that image gets amplified.

So now where I'm coming off as a pretty intelligent dude, that don't matter because the image right now. Somebody going to want to say, not him. I got a question for you, Flaco. Since, you know, you are, I feel like you're one of the first people I've heard, like, put this new media, you know what I'm saying, this stamp on, you know, this separation. You know what I mean? And, like, for me, like, I want to ask you, what does one do to qualify as, like, new media? What's the qualifications?

Sure. very independent you know what's independent yeah no bro listen bro like you know in terms of like like uh the media bro it is just an independent dude who is dropping videos doing news shit on on ijom twitter right right just have your own independent media company you feel me right right right right right here right like um and there's different levels too right right like you know um there's the commentators which is like, you know, like you, King A, K. Gainspitter, right?

You feel me? And there's the investigative journalist, like 1090 Jakes, right? And there's the clips channels, right? Like, like, Chick's moves, right? So, right? So there's different roles to this, but, yo, as long as you are, you know,

like a dude who is in the culture and you are servicing the culture as a as a new independent media company you are new media so you say those are just the qualifications

and you feel like for a person but I would also want to say you know the aesthetics of your channel I mean matters a lot like you know what I'm saying you can be putting out some shit

but if it's not you know appeasing to the eye you know what I'm saying or you know that that clickbait that even if it's just a picture and you know you made it in some clickbait, but you know it's gonna, you know what I'm saying, you just want people to listen to it.

I feel like that shit's what matters the most, right, Ramon, I feel like that's where you come in, you know, where you've done a lot of posts for no jumper, like you post a lot of the stuff that goes viral on the IG. And I know you like, now I got to make this shit aesthetically appeasing, like people got to want to see this. You know what I don't want people just to scroll by the shell and,

whoa, hold on. What's this? You know what I'm saying? And get to reading it hard. And now it's got, and the masses of it. the 250,000 likes and people are commenting by the thousands.

You know what I mean? Yeah, like, all right, if we're going off of all, what Flacco's saying, like, you've got to have, like, an independent company and have your own company. For new media, yeah, cool.

But I think I fall in this new media space. Like, even though I'm doing it through, like, a mainstream platform, no jumper, but I feel like I have, like, cultivated shit and, like, done shit behind the scenes that even Flacco and Sedy Nash might have reacted to. So, like, I play a space in this new media role,

even without me, like, having my own channel or whatever. And I did just make a YouTube channel recently, but, like, I don't know. It's just weird. Like, the new media term is cool, but it's just like, because I think I fit in this new media space somewhere, but I just don't have my own shit. I really ain't just being. Listen, bro, like, here, right? Listen, like, and how far you are in your own space does not dictate, right? is do you have your own shit

to where you are servicing the culture on a daily basis, right? Right? You like have your blog channel on a look on again. Oh my God, man, it's caught up.

Wait, don't tell me. You're talking about the shit that I had total uprising? Yes, that one, right? Yeah, I, um, I'm about to- stop doing it. I stopped doing total arising.

You see that's where you fucked up? Nah, because, I think what I've been doing recently has actually been more valuable than what I was doing with total arising. and I actually been building my name. So, like, now people actually do want to know that,

all right, who is Remo? And they're paying attention a little more. So if I do bring it back or whatever, then it'll probably actually be more valuable and more people actually know about it right now. But as far as, like, the new media conversation... You have a daily YouTube channel to where you actually service the culture?

No, I just service the culture through No Jumper right now. But that makes you damn near a cog, though, in the machine, to be fair to you. Because they'll attach remote directly to No Jumper instead of Remo, the outside thing. So, you know, when you just... started getting called no jumper Remo that essentially

makes you a no jumper algorithm not in the disrespect nah yeah even though like I'm cool I'm not tripping on that shit because like no jumper Remo AD for no jumper whatever like you know what I'm saying niggas them build names and shit for themselves I mean they do it to flaco

I mean no jumper flaco everybody like you'm saying everybody if I get stopped by people they'll bring you up like man you're attached not saying that you don't like it but I would say whether you like it like it. Of course.

Whether you would like it or not, you know, you're attached to it, bro. Like, that's never going anywhere. No, when I like to remove,

right, bro, it's like, listen, bro, like, like, your future and your,

your life security, right, lies on what you build for yourself outside of this, right? Meaning like, like, there's no reason why,

like, you shouldn't post, you know, on, like, your YouTube channel every day, you know,

or sort of uprising, right? Why? Because, bro, listen, just being somebody who is in this space, bro, who have opinions about any and everything, you don't know when that opinion is going to be your last opinion, right? So hence, if we know that, especially in this media space, bro, right? Like, it's so fragile, dog, that you don't know what opinion is going to be your last opinion, bro. You got a built something for yourself, bro.

No, I agree. But like I said, like if y'all seen the 1090J shit, I think I posted some shit with 1090J and it kind of went viral. I think I got reacted to it. So, like, I'm slowly doing it. That was the clip of you in 1090s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was IG Live that you were talking about.

The IG live with 1090J, you know what I'm saying. Just one of the fans like know what the viewers know what you were talking about. So people who don't know what was going on. 1090J got exposed for writing the grievance. And I was the first person to posted it. Then me and him hopped on live, you know, and a lot of people took it in the same thing. I mean, I saw it.

Like, it went viral. I took Saddie Nash before posting it on no jumper. I think Saddie Nash took my shit and posted it on your page. 100%. I never had no problem with you. Yeah, I don't got to. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a, blown pieces on me.

I haven't said anything. I let it rock because I understand what space we in. Of course, everybody's trying to eat, dog. Everybody's trying to get it. If it's postworthy or it's something worth looking into showing the viewers, motherfuckeruckers going to do that, whether it's got something to do with anybody at this motherfucking table. And I've seen that even like with you,

because I was like, man, you supposed a lot of this shit, but then I understand why you do it. You're like, if it's postworthy, I'm posting it. Yeah, yeah, it's fucked. You know? So I go question for you, man. When did you start doing content? Like, when did you start?

I'm curious. Sure, man. So my content started in 20. At the end of 2020, right? But that was me just doing like... So we can be safe to say that you're still fairly new. Yeah. Here, but like-

Fairly new. I mean, come on. Yes or no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Listen, right? Yeah, right? So, yeah. So, like, 2020 is when I started doing content,

but I really ain't even, like, call it content, right? I was doing, like, these, like, YouTube live streams where I was, like, talking about and Omar Johnson and shit for, like, 20 hours a day, right? So then I started the, like, hip-hop shit, though, in 2021. Right? So, yeah, right? So I've been in this space now since, since, since,

Since, since 2021. So, 2021. Yeah. When did you start at no jumper? He started in old jumper, fucking old office, which was. May 22. So, yeah, so you're still fairly. He had a rise.

Yeah, you used to. Had a good rise. You had a good rise. Hey, man, you know. I get it how you get it. Hey, hey. What even made you want to start doing this? Like, me, here, man.

So pretty much, bro, like, my girl was, like, graduating soon. and I said, listen, I'm out here Never met. Yeah, man. I've never seen. Yeah, right? Please distinctify that. I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not, right?

No, right? What fuck going on, man, right? You got the people say from high school and college. Not, not high school, right? No, but listen, like, she's graduated. I said, listen, man, I'm here making 15 months an hour. She's about to be a doctor making, you know, you know, like whatsoever, right? I need to find something

to make myself a value. So I hopped on YouTube. So you felt like you were doing nothing at the time? Yeah. You weren't a high value man. Yeah, yeah. That's a piece of the same. I hate hearing that because I feel like a man should always find

the value in themselves even if you're at a low point in your life. Yeah. Well, like, real shit. It wasn't even like a low point, right? Right. Like, you know, I was like first out of college. You feel me? right you know I had like an entry level like cost in their shit job you feel me right right you know a

you know a decent amount right I can only imagine you doing phone service calls like it happened to fucking yeah right because you know you're like I'd be like bro I don't even know what's going on in the phone call do you got a call center voice uh do you have like my name is poetic file no no no no no type of things no no no right no look so we work directly with like with like lawyers and shit so you know yeah yeah right yeah right so yeah right so she was graduating said bro I got like two a year and a half or two years to figure the shit out you feel me so you know I chose content

how about you sitting there. November I like how everybody know they time like they day I had to because I had to argue with people about certain things I've been watching you for three years and stuff like it hasn't been three years straight. So it will be in November. I think it's like November 6th or something like that of 2020. And I'll be fair to you. I had no idea it was going to jump when it did. My goal was make a thousand videos and get one subscriber per video. It just so happened. Boom, just right off the rip. I was like, oh man, it's always had a YouTube channel. I just post like some music on there and everything like that. Really didn't really take any other type of serious because it just felt like, you know,

Like people had a sound clouds and all of that. Like you're supposed to put music here. So I never really cared about it. But man, just one video and just me just telling people you can't have one foot in and one foot out. Like can't because once you get those eyeballs, it ain't just you got fans. You got your rivals of all type of sorts. That means people that don't like you, people that want to take you out. And that can equal some dudes from the streets or that can be the police.

Yeah. And this is what happened because it was a Casanova video because it jumped out of it and stuff like that. Knowing what I know now, he absolutely got screwed, but the message still stands. And then since then I made a crazy prediction. I said, this is going to be the year of the dead rapper this year, the year to Rico, this year, then year to snitch.

And as I said it, all of these days came to fruition. And it was like, oh, snap, the term year to snitch, that's because of me. Last year, you're the RICO, that was because of me. The year before, you're the dead rapper, that was because of me.

And I just made that bold-ass, you know, statement. You don't feel like, you know, doing that kind of like, chance it on, like, you know,

supports it. It's like speaking it into existence. Nah, because if you follow up. Right? Because the way you explained it is like, you know, sharp, I said this was going to happen

and then boom, this happened. It's shit like some witchcraft. Like, nigga, I knew. Like, the guy had the crystal ball,

nigga, Cleo was my auntie nigga, I got it. It's telling me, bro, like, I got this. I would agree with that, but I can't. It's not, because I'm explaining to you. Been in the streets since nine years old, from sack all the way down to LA. Yeah. I paid attention to what the OG said.

Yeah. If you look at it how I said it, dead niggis, right? Yeah. That means people go into jail. If it's a gang of them, that's a RICO. Once that RICO come out, then what happens? Paperwork come out. So it was all in the plan any goddamn ways.

It's just people die, people get arrested, then you find out what they say. It's not really a prophecy. This is just like, you know, any type of thing. Oh, Jesus will tell you, like, yeah, we could have told you that a while ago. Also for, you know, you and Flacco coming in 2020, that was, you know, is it safe to say that, you know, COVID had a lot to do with him.

One million. They weren't doing nothing. You know what they had to do was watch YouTube. You know, I feel like that was a lot of people started them. I mean, hell, I'll throw myself in the pot for it. You know what I'm saying? Because I felt like that's when, like, everything just happened. Like, I did an interview and then, boom, here it goes.

But it was all happening during COVID. It was at a time that nobody had anything else to do but get on YouTube or sit at the house and just watch shit for hours. Right. You know. You're 100% right. You feel like that had a, like, a kickstart with it. I was doing two million views a month. Two million.

Now it's a standard of 1.6, 1.5. or just a million. Like a bad month for me is hitting a million. A good money is just hitting $2 million. That's just what it is. But even that is still kind of crazy within selling me. I convinced a million people to watch me for the month is insanity to me. I still can't comprehend this.

It's still kind of throw me off of people. Oh, steady, dash, what's going on? I'm talking. I'll be in places and spaces. I was just outside in Baton Rouge like a couple days ago. R.P. Nussie. But, you know, I was out there. People was steady nash, bro, this, everything like that.

I even had the blessing to me to troll in Memphis. Trying to beat this dog, you know, I'd even know anything like that. But, you know, I still had that pleasure because that taught me always greet people with high energy. Like, what's going on, bro? I always smiling anything like that because I had to because I don't know what's on your mind anything like that

because if I walk up to you like I'm the tough guy, you might want to prove you tougher than me. I got the same question for you, but I want to ask you, have you had the pleasure of running into, you know what I'm saying? saying one of the trolls or people who have something to say to you, you know. I'm going to be real, bro. Like, bro, like, bro, listen, bro, like, a lot of these niggas, like,

who watch our content and hate, bro, like, they're bitch-ass niggas, right? Like, when they see you, right? When they see you is, right? Like, no, I need to be it. It's the same, listen. Hey, bro. It's the same line, though. Here it goes.

Listen, like, it's the exact same line. Damn, yo. I used to like you to Flacco man, but when I, you know, started really like, listen, bro, you might, or, or you ain't like me, you was hating, now that you met me, you

want to pitch it down, you feel me? Right? So, yeah, bro, like hatred, I don't get in person. I'm gonna be honest with you, I believe you. Yeah, like, that is kind of what happens. Flaco did kind of break it down, like you gave a good example of what happens when somebody is statute because, you know, like

Flaco, some of your content, very controversial. Some of the stuff you say is very controversial, but that's what keeps your ass in business. You know what I'm saying? And to be able to do that and still go outside and see how people like don't really take to it like in a fucked up manner, you know, they just be like, oh shit, you know, it's like seeing somebody off one of your favorite TV shows, man. You know what I'm saying? I think it's something as simple as that. Like he's still a fan favorite at the end of the day. Him being talked about whether it's good or whether it's bad keeps him with motion. How about you, Church? When you, you, Church, when you

you started doing content? Man, it's a, all right, so for me, come on, man. Let me see. They all over here giving up their bed, man, they got the,

it's paperwork party. Everybody is doing it. Because they planned it. I ain't planned for this shit. So with them, they kind of like seek to be in this shit. So for me, I'm gonna keep it all the way of being.

Oh, okay. I was watching. I see it. All right. So, it's gonna be dope. I was dead ass. I was managing the artist.

My boy, you know, he. Yeah, so he's a rapper. He used to rap. So I've always had a foot Like with this, I've always been a student of the game.

I was watching the Joe Button podcast. You know, I've always been a student in the game. I used to watch a breakfast club every day, Joe Button podcast and shit. You know what I'm saying? So I've always been studying the game. In the loop. In the loop. No, I always know what's going on, even from the Warren Shireck shit.

I was watching that shit early, like academic shats shit. All right. Long story short, Joe Button had kicked off Rory Amal from the Rory Amal podcast. So I stopped fucking with the Joe Button podcast like that. Then all of a sudden, randomly like, because, you know, No Jumper been around, but I wasn't tapped into the podcast on No Jumper. I would just watch No Jumper for the interviews. I'm talking about early on, like when he had fucking, like the first year he was doing interviews,

when he had Aaron Connor. Like, Ann Conner was on here. It's like, I've been known when No jumper is, but only for the interview side. I ain't really pay attention to the podcast side. And so at the end of the day, when A.D., T.R. And no, I don't even think T. T.R.O.G.L. I think he had old girl on there. Long story short, Joe Button kicked off Rory and Mall.

So I stopped fucking with the Joe Button and shit. Then I ended up tapping into that at the end of the end of the end of the. day shit. I started watching more than no jumping shit. You're talking about the cam girl that was on there. This is what AD and ADT Rail and Duno. I started watching that shit more often. And then one episode

Flacco came on that motherfucker. And the first episode Flacco came in there, I just I don't even, for some reason. His big ass made an impact. I said the first episode, Loco was funny as hell. I get it to you, Flaco. For real. Like, I got to get you that, bro. You earned that. You heard that.

You feel me? Hey. You weren't, bro. Like, you aren't I just threw the rack. I'm crying. Call chaos and fell back. You feel me? I saw Flacco on the, at the end of the day podcast.

I sent them a DM just on something. I wasn't even asking for no shit. I just sent them like, yo, you're funny as hell. It was some positive shit. Like, yo, they need to keep you on that motherfucker.

You know what I'm saying? You're funny. Then I follow, bro. And then I think probably like two weeks later or like a month later or something shit, he just like made a post saying like, I'm looking for people on my media team. So at the time, I'm still doing this.

This is for Flaco's media team. This is for Flaco's media team at the time. This is a separate. This is nothing to do with no jumper. This is Flaqo media team. Flago made a post. He's on some, like, I'm looking for people on my media team. Come on holl at me who want to do this shit.

I hit flaco. I'm like, what we got to do? At this point, I don't know shit about media, but like I did go to Jackson. I went to Jackson State for broadcasting journalism, and so I know what media is. Like, but I wasn't planning on doing none of that shit. I'm doing, like, at the time, I'm working at a furniture store. Like, I'm managing that shit, like doing deliveries, and I'm managing the artist. Like, I had no shame.

Like, I never was planning on being in the media. So I see Flacco shit. I hit Flaco. I'm like, all right, what you need? This nigga Flacco, he on some smart shit. He sent me a whole video on how to make posts. I ain't never made no post. So I'm like, I watched the video.

I'm like, all right. That's looking out. If you really look at it, bro. Yeah, let me break. Let me have to do that. All right. So Flacco sent me a video. Because I was the last person to join Flacko's media team

to keep it all over 100. I was the last person to join at a light. It was like 10 of us, maybe at the time. I think I'm the last one. join. Damn, Flaco, you had a little army running. Yeah. The Flaco nights. That was three of them. It was three. It was three. It was three. The Wrights left. The Kauai left.

I think the... No, it's three now, but at the time, it was like 10, 12 people. He had a startup, lineup and a bench. Yeah. That's gold. Oh, yeah, he's going crazy. All for free, too. All for free. Listen, so I'm the last for a hundred percent. I should let that part out with Flaco, God. Yeah. Yeah, the sweatshine.

He was a kness and the nigger. What? Not what I mean? I've been doing that shit for free right now if Adam ain't hit me. So look. All right. Fast forward. Flacco teach me how to make the posting shit.

I'm the last thing to join Flacco Media shit. And then I started figuring that shit out. So then I started like making noise on Flacco shit. Like a lot of the shit I was doing on flakco shit was like catching on. Like I don't know. I guess. Then they all through my team. I reached out to AD.

I started up AD and puns community shit. So at this time I'm working underneath Flacco, but I'm running AD. being pun, I'm running the community clips. I'm running DJU Instagram. I'm doing shit for 16th shot him, and I'm doing China Mac shit, and this is all before I'm even on no jumper. So I got this time, people not know. Do you still got some of these

entities running? Yeah, a little bit, for sure. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're going to get into who it is. I'm going to produce, like, the MacVenture shit with him and Crick Mac. Yeah, like, me and China Mac for sure. I think we all know what we would like. If you know, you know type shit. I think we all know what I'm saying. I'm like, do you have any other entities, though some of the people, some

of the things you just named off, do you still have some of those entities going today. Yeah. You still have some of them connections that still running. So when AD, I'm going to keep it all with bands. You won't, since we're talking about it. I'm asking. So when AD, I was doing AD and punch shit.

Then the AD and punch shit started looking walkie because the no jumper, we was having a no jumper break off. So it'd be post. So I do my job, man. No, you doing it good. Fucking. I never broke your shit. I mean, you put it out there.

I'm not here on nothing personal. You know what I'm saying? I'm just here to do my job. So I was running AD in them shit and I'm doing everybody else shit too. But at the time. running AD in them shit and this is when no jumper is an AD and them kind of like falling out so it's kind of like I just

chose aside and I'm like yeah I'm rocking with Adam tight shit because I was running they shit like full blown like I started it up they didn't even have a person that started up everything for me and he definitely started up the community clips page channel and shit for sure but yeah and then I at the time there was posting shit that I

didn't really feel like standing on this shit I was like I ain't with that shit and I told Adam I'm just you know what I'm saying me and pulling and AD just split ways and tight shit and I just kept doing no jump shit and how did okay so they're like so they're like how did you tell and pun and ad pun wanted me to post some shit one time no i was the only nigga that had the iG post our instagram password so i was anything that was going up on that page oh was through me yeah so shit started getting a little slow because i'm it's like you know what i'm saying

they beefing this shit and i'm not feeling it all the way because i still fuck with ad and pun at the time I'm like, yeah, I'm what I'm saying? But they would make posts that's a little shaky. Like, I ain't from a post that about Adam type shit. So I wouldn't post that shit. And then the niggas that I hired, like Stephen is somebody that I hired through AD and them shit. And I brought him over here. So, like, I had the same way Flacco had his team.

I made my own media team. And I had people working underneath me through these other companies that I just had named this shit. And Stephen, one of them. So at the time, I just told AD in them I wasn't really, you know what I'm saying? It was really a mutual thing because at the time, I really was slowing up and posting shit. And then I think pun just came to this shit like, all right, fuck it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it is what it is. And we just like just have like a mutual agreement. No, I think they kicked me out that shit. I'm gonna keep on it. They kicked me out that shit last second. I think that kicked me out that shit last second. What my guys right there? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

It's all right. This is just within your walk. But this is just my story. Yeah, absolutely. Keeping in a hundred. It's not anything that you planned on. It's just if you left it out, you would be leaving out a piece of valid information.

I got to keep it on it. You got to keep it on it. But it makes sense or they'd be half too, though. Yeah, no, 100%. But also within that, like, it'd be shit that they're... Not even AD and pun, it'd be people that

I hired that was more community fans than no jumper fans or whatever. And they would want to make a post, like back, like making Adam look bad or some shit. And I'm not posting it. So then them niggas like, man, Kareem, what you on? I say, Rainbow. Rimo, what you want? Like, why you ain't posting it?

So then it was just to the point where it was like a conflict of interest where, like, AD understood it. And it was just like, all right, whatever. But now, punny ass kicked me out that bitch. I ain't go on you. One of them niggas did. Somebody kicked me out to do shit. That's all right.

I'm like, Dan, I created this shit and everything. Niggas jost me up. But I wasn't really tripping because I ain't going to lie. I was slowing up. I'm posting for that shit, though, to keep it 100. So moving on past them. So moving on past them. Oh, I get a random.

Nah, the David Russell shit started going on, all right? Man, you know, I have to shine some light on it because I always wanted to know, I think I always had like my suspicions of who may have been David Russell because it was crazy at the time, you know, he had got, you know, he was getting so much motion, shit, he was offered a job and nobody stepped up.

Who would have beat that nigga ass if you were kidding there, man? Nobody claimed the lottery ticket though. You know what I'm saying? Like, it just fell short. So I don't know if it was somebody that was close. I'm more leaning towards that that David Russell was somebody that was kind of able to because the shit that he was getting was like it was real close to home.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm watching and I'm like, who the fuck is this? And then his name just keeps coming up at the time. He's getting fucking Kiki cracking. He's getting skis. He's getting that nigga cracking. You remember?

Yeah, I know, right? I know, right. Yeah. Like when the Reddit first, you know what I'm saying, came and made Sean to the fucking ass Reddit. I still fuck with y'all. I love y'all. You know, we stay beefing.

And when the Reddit first got really going, Skie was up. Ski was up. He was one of the first ones that was really getting some motion. And then this David Russell dude just fell short. All right. So to continue on that shit. So the David Russell...

Were you David Russell? I have to ask, bro. I can't confirm. No, I don't know who David Russell live. Like, obviously Flacco was it? Because Flaco's like, he got his asswood. No, I ain't there for. Were you, Jersey?

Like... This nigg is... I don't even know who they have David Russell is. All right. So David Russell was somebody who was just posting no jumper comment. content from like I you have like a back on fig stream community stream no jumper stream but he had clipped the messiest moments and shit and it was like oh it was

pitting people against each other tight shit on the shit all right so when David Russell I think I think I think flacco and Trevor snatched David Russell channel up out of here no no no no no keep it 100 let me get my side let me get my side I think flaco sent him strikes out flacco and day flacco and Trevor, system strikes out to David Russell. His shit got up out of there. So then I seen, I just seen a gateway, they're like, all right, for show. So I started doing a post or whatever on my own YouTube, but it was the Remo shit.

So I started posting on my YouTube channel for the first time ever. But I would just take no jumper, community, fig me. I would even take shit from Potlord Stream. And I would clip, like, just the funniest moments and shit like that. And I was doing that shit. And I think I got, like, in like a week, I had like 200, 300,000 views. And I guess Adam seen that shit because I was clipping that shit

fascinating y'all was clipping it. The niggas who was working up here. And at this time, Flacco's already sent you a video out of clip shit. No. This is why I get a little watchy on. I'm just trying to make shit line up.

All right, so look. Let's land together. I'm doing social media for Flacco, but at the time I'm doing social media for Flacco and all the other channels I was naming this shit, I started the YouTube channel on my shit and I was clipping, I clip some shit you say,

some shit. by saying i put it on the remo shit but on my remo youtube channel that shit i probably did like 300 000 views in like two weeks of y'all content and for you know somebody is just starting out that's a lot yeah it was decent that's a lot and adam noticed that shit and at like two in the morning on some random shit i get a follow and i'm like what the fuck adam 22 i'm like so damn i don't because i never even hit adam for a job or nothing like he just followed me randomly and i'm like what the fuck i'm like the adam 22 follow at two in the morning crazy like what's up then he's like oh you fast whatever we need somebody like you on the team

whole time I'm thinking he's talking about the shit I'm doing for flaco so I'm like yeah nigga I can crank out post so I sent him some posts and need to be on a no jumper IG page but he really was talking about my YouTube that I was taking so he he really ordered me to do the clip channel for the YouTube so then that's when Adam reached out to me and I started doing the clips for the YouTube channel but it was like I really my foot in his no jumper shit was through flaco working his IG page though and I was doing 80 and then shit David Russell though took his own page down

If Faco did not Like that, Yeah, he felt yeah No, because he's smart, right? You know, It's David Russell. Was that the one When we were doing the Monday shows?

He was like, that's the person who was putting it out faster than we was as far as the clips and everything? No, no, no, no, no. That's somebody else that Adam and them got about it here. It's something they're called like, called like blank media, right? But no, but they was like the first one.

Like they got up to like 14,000 subscribers, in like a month. Yeah. And Adamson said, nah, that's, no, you gotta go.

Yeah. No, no, no, listen, like, it's every video they posted did like 100,000 plus.

That's wow. You feel me? Yeah. Should have hired him. You feel me? Dave Russell, man, should have got the job.

But I feel like David Russell couldn't because of he already had one. He worked for no jumper. Hey, hey,

hey, I don't know. You're a real. This is just my speculation. I'm not saying that this is fact. I'm just saying like we all have our opinions to it. That's just my personal opinion. And I don't feel like whoever it was he ain't here no more.

I get accused of being Shirex rarest or Shirex, the Chicago page that posts all the prison footage and all that stuff. That was in my inbox heavily. It's actually correction workers that work for Cook County who do that shit. I would imagine, but I was getting hit with it because I was not throw out stuff like that. Put them on game. Who is that? So the people, just according to 1090J,

1090J said the niggas that drop in the Shara Agare. The Cook County footage, they're actually correctional officers that work at the J. I don't know that to be true. That's what 1090 Js. I'm going to say, I don't believe it. One of them, not both of them. It stands a chance.

This is the only reason I can say it stands a chance is because there's only a couple people that's getting close to that shit, that close to it. That's either niggas as inmates or the motherfucker's COs. You know what I'm saying? So it stands a chance in the conversation that it ain't always some inmates taping that shit or got a phone allegedly or whatever the case may be. Yeah, right.

But like, when we chat, though, it's always one dude. So, like, I guess. Yeah, that ain't prison. Right? Why would they say that like, it's a group of people? Because I want to hear what you had to say. There was something that happened over here. Oh, no.

So I talked to some people up over there, and they're trying to crank out. other type of content we're talking like actual arrest and stuff like that yeah not just prison stuff so you know how would you know that well then again nah they could yeah I can see that because then there's just saying it stands a chance yeah right yeah I'm going over with 1090 J had told me you know he he'd be overly doing his research and just to know it's two people who's doing that shit by the way too the shahrag rears and then I think is shiragrack rear wrist or something like that but it's two different people who's posting these videos.

No, no, it's Rock Wurers and Shirekwheres, right? Yeah, it's two different accounts, though, for sure. Flocko, question for you. What's up? Who was your first inspiration and who could it be now? Like in, like, in a minorship? Yeah, when you first got in, like, who was your inspiration? Because you had to find some type of drive, right?

Like, some type of. No, no, no. I'm just being honest. No, no, no, bro. In 2020, there was some, there had to be someone that, like, you kind of was like, damn, you know. My girl was my only drive like, wait, though. You feel like that's cap?

Yes. You feel like this cap in this rap right now? Yeah. Why? Because eventually you have to look at somebody for your inspiration. If that was the case, then you could have went back to school and copped a better job. But your drive, though, and your inspirations are to different things, right? Meaning this, right?

Like, my content may model somebody else as cool. Like who? That's what the question is, really. Academics, right? I felt that way I'm my drive, though. I'm not even looking at the model

or to critique the content to it may look similar to. I'm just simply asking him like, who was your inspiration? You know what I'm saying? It don't have to be, you know, because his content looks like academics. It could have been anybody.

He's talking about he's saying, man, I feel like it was my girl. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's really his real feeling on that one. Yeah, yeah. You feel me, right her. Film me, right?

Yeah. Now, So now, bro, in 2023, like, my, like, drive, right, bro, is just me knowing there are other young niggas who's coming up in this shit, right? Who I just feel like I have to go extra hard to get in position to where I can protect them and make sure, you know, they have a safe landing, right? Right cuz, bro, when I speak to these, these like young niggas coming up. Like who? You know, like, like, um, like a rapper alert, uh, this Buddha, you feel me, right? Check out we his gang, too.

He do all the North California stuff. Right? Yeah. Shout out we is gang. You feel me, hip-hop ties, right? You feel me? Right. Right.

Right. Go ahead. There's a sentiment of, there's this boogeyman they fear. Right? Right. And they fear that boogeyman because they believe there's not enough protection for them.

So my drive right now is to mobilize us as like new media to come together and offer protection for everybody in new media. So hence, if these infrastructure niggas wake up one day and say, eh, that nigga right there, we don't fuck with them.

We have the funds in place, the infrastructure in place where we can withstand any attacks from one of dumb niggins. So are you saying, like, because I want to go back to what, because I'll see you running off with it, which is cool. But so you're saying it's the young niggas that are in this shit now, that inspire you now to keep you going? Yeah, of course.

That's what's pretty noble. I'm saying? That's pretty dope. How about yourself? I'm saying, who inspired you or what inspired you? You know, I'm saying? The money. The money, flat out.

I'll give it to two people. First is academics. And then this bitch-ass dude named Hassan Campbell. I'm going to say it. No, he's still a bitch. Why? Why is that? Because what he said, how he was saying in that thing like that.

Carlin's been so civil so far. I don't give it down. I don't f*** it. It really be his minions, though, right? It really be his minions because the minions be pissing me off because they all come from New York. It's like half of New York Rockery, the other half, one is just make content off what I do when they feel this leader who was in a 10-year relationship. with one of the, I'm gonna do all that.

But either way it go. Basically is this. I heard how Hassan Campbell talked about Triple Beans from New Jersey. Triple Beans' death is on camera. So Triple Bees is getting into his car. If some dudes get to drop on him, they start firing.

Cuts hit the ground, he's rolling. He's rolling like he's trying to roll up under a car. But where he's at, he ain't knowing where he's at. He's not knowing none of this stuff, so they finish him off on camera. This damn weirdo get on there and say, yeah, they caught triple bings. They made them hula hoop on the ground and turned his TV off and rocked his noodles and all this. I'm like, yo, what the hell? My people are going to ride on you about that.

What the hell is you doing? So it was that shock jock shit that made me jump on it like, nah, I got to put the end of that. And then it just so happened to be something that Dan Piny said. He took the Nike logo and just put fucking on there, right? Yeah. Their opinion said, just fucking do it. I don't know why it hit me and resonated the way it did. Because I was always thinking about jumping off on YouTube because academics said,

I'm making $100,000 on YouTube. You need the white chair. You got a special guest here. Brick in the building, man. It's media day in the building. Yes, sir. This is media. This is media.

This is where I say. My motto is, bro, is I can beef with no black media niggas, right? Why? Because I don't see, though, the white media niggas beefing with each other. You ain't allowed to diss to homie, though. Do you all you hear all the shit he said about Nick? No. You hear the shit he said about Big You?

Who? Who? Sal Campbell? I talk. I talk. I fly you out to L.A.? Get you a spot at the Snooty Fox. And then we can do our interview.

The question, though, right? No, no, no, no. No. The question though, right? Go ahead, Flago. Here, right? Have you ever seen DJ small eyes this Adam? Have you ever seen this DJ small eyes?

The white media dudes stick together. So how come it's only niggas like, yo, listen. And he's at 300K? Oh, oh, you feel me? and he's at like 500, nah, right? Or, hey, listen, or, or, or, bro, like, why can we have just a quicker path to conflict, right? Like, why do we have to always beef and hold the beef for this?

Like, for example, right? Like, you want to sign, sign what, right, here for like two years now, right? Yeah. Bro, why can we have a quicker path to conflict resolution? Why do it have to be these long-term beats? one bro we are all we got meaning bro like Hassan Campbell me you we're all in the same boat why because the white niggas ain't gonna be for each other well then this amistide niggins that no hell not because they're not being disrespectful and calling each other street

dudes you get what I'm saying this is the thing for years black people being this is just what happens I don't I don't know I don't want to put it on every but even when it dates back to slavery you got a fault who's that fault you can't just put it on the white man every time the black man sold and enslaved his own people before that too you get what i'm saying it's not all the way like that though not all it's not all the way mean because they're looking at them from different tribes like we're not the same because we're from different tribes we're the only one who do that with with with that like you wouldn't say because we all americans if it's Canadians are capturing Mexicans.

But this is what I'm saying. But this is what I'm saying. We're selling them to some Europeans. So we're not all from Africa. We're not from the same continent? Yeah, but you're treating the continent like it's a city. So like I say, if Canadians were captured Mexicans, you wouldn't say Americans are selling off Americans.

You wouldn't do that. Okay. But what I'm trying to tell you is they setting off. It started. Why couldn't niggas just get along then? All the Europeans and all that shit, you never really see white people. even when you come down the war time,

you don't really see them going at it with each other. Like, you know what I said? You never see these people. So how do we get America, because I could have sworn to English. No, no, no, no. How we got America was because them niggas was Eden. Yeah. With the slaves and all that, niggia,

and they were trying to stop them niggas from Eden. Yeah, so what I'm saying is they started war. It's a resource thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's them. What we're saying is it starts from far back in history. Yeah, with the original person, yeah.

Martin Luther King and Malcolm A's didn't like Martin Luther King. Yeah, for a while. Yeah, I mean, like, come on, bro, like, even when we was pushing peace, we wasn't, okay, it was the niggins that was nonviolent pieces, and the niggins that was pushing nonviolent, they were pussy to by any mean necessary, niggins. You get what I'm saying? But they, it's just like, it keeps going on.

Like, if black people don't understand, like, that we, that we stronger together and all that is going to be hard. because we flashed, and if somebody over here gets more money, then they're showing off. You get what I'm saying? And now that person doesn't like it. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, look, so look, for example, right?

Listen, if a dude, right, let's say is employed by, like, DJ Small Eyes, right? And if that nigger think he can have a bad opinion about Rory from, like, Rory and Maud, nigga, you out of your mind. Cars being made, nigga. You, you is out of there. You can have an opinion. It's the disrespect. That's the difference.

No, no, no, you know what I'm saying? Yes, yes, yes, right? Yes, right. But like, I'm saying, though, there should be a system set in place to where us as black men can find a faster route to conflict resolution or post a years going by. And we still don't fuck with each other. But I feel like contents was fucking that up. And that's why we all here today. And that's why I feel like it needs to be addressed.

That's why we're here, bro. You know what I say? I figure that out. because the shit's only getting worse, obviously. Let me give you this. There's cats right now that completely disrespect me, all this shit, use my own videos to make their own money. You know what I didn't do and still haven't done?

Struck their goddamn channel. Let them get their money, let them push their fake-ass shit that they push and all of that stuff. And they all happen to be black. But you know what I say? Bray, attack what I'm saying, though. Can y'all get better? Dispute the argument.

You can be completely awful what the hell I'm saying. Absolutely. You get what I mean? Of course, the but, though, us as black men who are in media, right? They say, yo, listen, right? For example, if he is attacking SETI is up to me, Brick, and King Gay K, right, to say, hey, bro, yo, listen, my nigga, these niggas over here, they are mobilizing and getting stronger each and every year.

These niggins with the whole little coat they got over here, these niggas ain't going nowhere. Sit your pooing ass down. and stop fucking with Setti, right? Because again, you can disagree, my nigga, but the personal shit takes it past the point where we can't even have a conversation no more. Yeah, period.

You feel me? But see, that... Put an expiration date. But see, you act like that's some unison type shit. It's really not over there. Yeah. For the Pepsi that got Coca-Cola. For every car they have,

they already built another one. If you go to a little Mexico, you see one Mexican restaurant and another Mexican restaurant directly competing with each other. So, this kumbaya shit that you're talking about, don't even exist.

That's how I'm with you in now. I feel like, I'm trying to tell a whole bunch of Chinese restaurants, sound the same as that shit. Wait, though. I'm talking about rock media, meaning the legacy niggas, the white niggas in rap media, they stick together. Who? No, they don't. They're in secret competition with each other. Who?

They're not, they push it. What they're doing is they're debating ideas. That's what I'm talking about the disrespect. See, the thing is, just like Jay-Z say, right? There's good and then there's great. Great forces you to have an opinion. I don't mind you having an opinion that disagree with my shit. Period.

You can have a whole entire, entire, complete, different goddamn opinion on what the hell I'm saying? But when it get personal, now we're talking about cats dying. Yeah, of course. You see what I'm saying? Listen, right? Here, right? Listen, there's definitely bad, right? But I'm saying, right, like, there needs to be, for example, right?

Listen, Treblot Ross, right? listen DJ Small Eyes would never say would never go against Trapler Ross right you feel me right right like

they listen right why right why right why because they feel like bro listen you're like we are a minority and in this space and we have to have alliances right

so like if Trappler Ross and DJ Smalleyes if they won't beef why are two niggas, like, for example, like you and, like, Hassan Campbell, who are giants in this shit, there can be a resolution, right? Yo, hey, bro, don't diss the homies, man, right?

Or, all right, or if y'all two are too far going, brick and step up, hey, you feel me, right? Like, you know? But then when you step in the middle of some shit like that, everybody looks at it as dick right, when really, that's really what's supposed to be going on. Like, if you do that, like, hey, man, And I don't think, oh, now you dick, now you dick eating another nigga because you fuck with him.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. They want me to go a brick every fucking day. That's the homie. Now, he's never from doing no shit like that. But the crazy part is not to just make it on the brick. It's no way that you could go out of a nigga with no smut. Exactly.

It comes back to like, like, like, you can't go at me. It's no way. No, I mean like your opinions, your opinion. Not you the person. You know what I'm saying? Brick wrong on this shit. Yeah, but even with it. Yeah.

Like, even with the shit, I really don't speak unless I got facts unless I'm just saying fucking nigga, and I just say whatever. I don't speak unless it's, I have been to prison before where you get stabbed. We be in jail where you can get stabbed. Now, they're talking about your opinions, because when we say brick baby is

two things now. But even when, even when I went to jail and you see that other nigga shit and spelt it like how he's it. And it was all wrong. You get what I'm saying? And I was debating putting that shit out. Yeah, yeah.

And niggas... I really didn't want to, but I'm like, I don't want nobody to. It'd just be so funny because the niggas swear he knows me. But then, nigga... I don't really can't know you. I don't think my last name is brown. You feel like it would have been confrontational? I felt like if anybody else would have put it out there in a certain way,

I knew the message and how I was going to do it. That was going to allow it not to be no lame-ass shit. You get what I'm saying? Because they could have spread it any other type of way. So let me jump on this shit first so I can paint the illustration way differently than anybody else can. Hmm. Yeah, yeah.

Because the kids would hit me, I'm like, hey, can you take that shit down? I don't, you know, there's no problem. Flocko, do you use that same type of mindset when you go into making a piece of content? Like, when you jump into a piece of content, like, do you go into like, okay, if I cut this, if I make this, like, is it going to affect certain relationships, not even just your own, but just with maybe the people that you're talking about at the time? You know what I'm saying? He can be talking about two individuals that are already having a problem,

and then now this just being talked about or putting a magnifying glass on it has now made it worse. Sure, sure. Bro, here, right? So, here, right? For me, it's like... That does happen. Right?

Like, you know, I try to produce content, right? You know, that's not destructive, meaning this, right? Like, if you got some beef, right? You feel what I mean? Right? Or like, right? Or like, you have a, you know, or, you know, like, hair, right?

Let's say this, right? you, you know, like, are being canceled, right? I'm not going to make a content and say, hey, yo, he's being canceled. Let's pile on some more shit, right? Right? I try to just make content that's, that's, like, informative, that's funny. That's hilarious, right? But I try to stay away from the malicious shit, you know?

How about you, everyone? Yeah, what? I feel like, I'll be real. I ain't really got no bias when it comes to it, like 1090, the nigga every time somebody snitch. It's a very controversial shit before, too. I mean, you do run, you know, some of the things that go on on the, you know, no job by IG.

And, you know, some of the shit be controversial sometimes. You know, some people are going to agree. Some people are going to agree. I guess that's what makes the best content, right? It's got to have a Ging and his yang. Fico's a liar, too. No, yeah, finish your question. No, as far as, like, any bias and shit, like, no, like 1090J,

anytime somebody snitch, he hit me up. Yo, this, you know what I'm saying? So when it was, when it was his turn to go on and if, the light, I threw him in there. So I ain't going to say like, I keep it, I keep it, I keep it 100 with everybody. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it's some shit up there, fair is fair. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, it's certainly authentic. This conversation needs to happen, bro, because, you know, there's a lot of people that are coming up in the game that, you know, don't really understand what be going on and it be a lot of viewers. You know, they don't really understand what it takes to do this. What's like really on your back. Yeah, and right, bro, and like speaking of, like, dude's coming up, right, bro, bro, Oh shit, right?

Bro, listen, I don't think, think, like, folks understand, bro, like, in 2016, like, bothering me too. Right? Oh, shit, right? Bro, look. Right, look. Like, um, Tax Stone had about, like, 20,000 subs, right? Like, no jumper had about 100,000.

I had about 300, right? Yeah. So, like, there's new, like, cropper niggas coming up, right? Again, like, we all got about, like, 100 plus right? You know, in five years, we are going to be, like, in a position of, like, oh, this is our shit now, right? Meaning like, I could be like 40 years old at that point. I don't probably be like 42, right?

Right? So like at some point, like the new, you know, like Lexington Media will get an age out of this, right? So we have to just be on our like square, right? So where in five years, my nigga, when it's our turn, we just have to make sure that it's different for the young niggas who's coming up under us, you feel me? I get what you're saying, but also to be fair, like anything I put out and then it's happened to not be what that is, I'll make a whole video and clear it all up.

You get what I'm saying? A lot of these cats won't do that. Of course, of course, okay, y'all coming up with all these suggestions, right? So what's the do's and don'ts of the new age media? If you say we're the forefront of the new age media, what's the do's and don'ts? Look, right, look, right? But the number one, the number one, It's just stop the cool shit, man, right? Like, stop the cooning, right?

Give an example. Sure. We need some example, because that's just something. You dropped, you dropped that word a lot, so I just want to know like, what's it like, yeah. Sure, sure, sure, right? Hey, right, sure, right? Sure, for example, here's one of like the biggest, like the biggest, like, the biggest, like, like, like the cool shit right, that I saw, right? Was, what's like, let's say this, right?

Don't say a name, just give what they did. Sure, sure, sure. Oh, say a name. No, no, no, because he just told me you don't get on kids. No, no, no, no, no, right? Is attacking another person in the space who share your same skin tone for no reason other than, yo, listen, man, like, Dendigot got like a bunch of attention right now, subs in motion. Let's attack him so I can come up, right?

But I feel like you're making this more of a thing than it is. Like, I'm, all right, who beefing the media right now? What? Who's beefing in his media? media space right now because are you making this more of a thing than what it is like I don't see that many media people going back and forth not watching they even let's put it up besides I you got street media but you're not watching but you got street media and shit but as in far as like the real media and shit like I ain't

gonna say real media but like I don't see it happen as much as you hey now if we're gonna say like on the Cali side of shit I can see it but like no no no no drop some names who again I'm not calling names again I'm not calling names again I I'm not calling names, right? And, right, but, listen, if you don't know the media niggas that's currently beefing and got issues with each other, birthday, like, you're not watching, right?

Are they scratching the servers? Are they really, it doesn't matter? Like, who are these people? Like, names? Guys, it matters. It matters. Again, I'm not calling names. Off your top of your head, you can know.

Listen, man. You got somebody that you're thinking, and do you have somebody? Because you got, like, your one to two, three beats going on. I don't know. You're talking about, like, I mean, are you saying, like, on what end, like, not against his.

no jumper. We got that side of it. They got it. And then we got it. No jumper reaction channels and I ain't even talk about the people. Adam, he talk about. I'll talk about it. Just others. Yeah. There is a gang of the motherfuckers.

Because you're an algorithm. So they got to jump on that way. You got nothing or something. It oversaturates the original content. But who, what separates the media from the content creators? Sure, sure, sure.

rush a look. So a content creator, right, is you're doing, you know, vlogs, right? Feel me, right, right? If you are a media dude, right? You either do daily news or daily coverage, right? Or, you know, like, you have, like, an actual media page as well, you feel what I mean, right? Right, right. But a content creator is, is, you know, you know, vlogs, general commentary, right?

feel me, right? But if you're doing daily news content and your goal is to be somewhat of a new age journalist that you are a rap media nigga. You feel me? Yeah, I probably fall under that umbrella. No, you definitely follow up.

It's just a little, the only thing is, like, with the whole new media shit, like, it's just a little, so you consider Charleston and God or somebody in this media space, right? He's not new media, but he's legacy media, right? Yeah, he has to be. I think so, right?

Yeah. I mean, I'm saying. He don't have his own company. Wait, though. He does have a company, right? Lack effect, but he made all his noise on Breakfast Club. Well, that and. So what is the, what are you saying here?

No, no, no. So do I have to, because if I'm making my noise on a little jumper, doesn't matter? With the right? So, and he had brilliant idiots. I see what you do, right? He brought it back. No, no, no.

No, no. No, no. Megan Land twice. No, no, no, right? And he had, I think, like, Brent, like, brilliant idiots, right? Sounds like 21. Yeah. 2014, 15, right?

Yeah. And he's at various talk shows, I think. And, listen, quietest cap, bro. Law speaker network, and he only had 20% of it. Right? And that side, like the Reed, tax store, right? So. But they got Gatsy Chronicles up under that, too?

Right? Right? Yeah. Yeah, right? So, and he has owned his own thing for like a long time now, right? But the shit that he owned is that moving to culture because the shit that he do on the breakfast club really move the culture for him for us to even still be talking about him

as legacy media. So like, yeah, the brilliant idiots, like he got that. And he got a Black Effect podcast where he got, I think, several podcasts underneath from. Loud speakers, network or whatever. But if you want to keep it real, like all the noise that Charlemagne made was through breakfast clubs. So it's like, what?

Would he have been considered new media back in the day just because he ain't have his own? Yeah, listen. Then Remo got to be new media then because I'm going to fall in that same aspect. Because I don't got to be making noise on my own shit. But Sean, I'm in a guy. No, when I watch him and so on a breakfast club? Like, brer and idiots, how many times you're watching that?

Me? Every week, right? Right? But here, though, right? I said earlier, though, right? If you have your own shit, do you do on a daily or consistently, my nigga? You are on new media. Okay, sir.

You're saying that let's just go ahead and call the shit this shit. So you're saying that he's not new media because he's not running his own shit. You can't really, you don't classify him as new media. Right? I mean, you, I'm going off for your. You get into it. Because this is your phrase right here. Sure, sure, sure.

Sure, sure. Right. Sure, look. Sure, look, if you don't have your own, again, like your own, like, you know, like your own channel, right? you know, your own IG news page, right, that you are pouring into and on a daily or a consistent basis, right? Then I can't call you, right, like, new media, right?

But, right, if he wants to, damn, right? But if he wants to post on a daily basis, you're a new media, right? But if you don't post it on your own stuff and it's just no jumper, it's hard for me to say, okay, and his new media just based on no jumper. You feel me?

Right. And he has to post on his, his, like, IG, his YouTube on a daily basis and service the culture from his own shit first. You feel me? I disagree, even though, like, I'm not fighting to be in new media. It is what it is.

I just been doing my shit. But what I'm going to say this is, like, if we're going to go off that limitation of shit, then because the niggas I looked up to doing this shit, niggas like star, niggas like Charlemagne academics of course and shit he owned his own shit but star and shalomain was making noise star you know and listen from the very jump though right since you remember ibn gregory yeah right even gregory even gregory yeah no wait though since again since 2014 15 and shalabane has had his

own media shit but after he got a cracking on the breakfast club yeah of course of course all right so who said let me say remo don't do like you know what i'm saying is if if if i'm saying if if i'm saying if if I mean, I hate to pull out the statistics right here. Yeah. If Remo is posting 80% of no jumper content. Yeah. Is Remo a part of this company? Like he would be considered a higher up.

He just happens not to own any percentage of the company. But at the same time, his day-to-day, and if I'm not mistaken, you know what I'm saying, we can go all the way back. I believe he was giving you content when you first started. So, Remo being the backbone to a lot of media companies is him being a part of new media. Just because he's not coming out speaking vocally, he's a journalist. Welcome to the club, man. He's a journalist, guys.

Y'all are you saying me? You guys are saying me. You're going to want me in a gang, man. Why don't you want him, man? You're a journalist. No, I'm trying. It's a conversation, right, right? Yeah, you're straight.

Go ahead. It's to hopefully empower him to post more on his own shit, right, but look, right, but look, if no jumper is legacy media and he does a lot of shit for legacy media, then that don't qualify you as new media, right? But if he just posts on his daily shit, he's new media. But I'm having more. I'm having a lot of, right?

And I think you said you had to have a presence outside of Instagram, it has to kind of be double, right? What? But he has to have it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait. This is, okay, so no jumper, Alexei cheese, right? This is, it's legacy media, right?

So, but the work that I do here or him do here don't qualify us per se as new media, right? Because it's under the no jumper umbrella. Yeah, legacy media. You feel me? Right? But outside of it, you feel me, right? if he was posted on his own stuff, right? And he's new media.

You feel me? So Star and Salomey Legacy Media. Before 2014, Shaulamay didn't count. Afterwards, yes. Star does... He's been in there for a while. Yeah, right? Star does, like, his own shit now after being fired.

So, yeah. Yeah. Star Cal, wait, right? Yeah, he got fired from how did that? When, 2016, right? No, what? No, I think it was way before that. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah. I was going to ask, I was going to ask a question, but go ahead. Go ahead. No, I just wanted, so what day starts new media? Huh? What date starts new media? Hey, right?

So from 2016, right, was when, like, the say-cheeses, eggs. You wasn't there, though, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, right? So they're, like, post-pandemic, like the 2020, 20, 20, 21-21 shit,

But that's new media, you feel me? Yeah. Was the first goal to get clout or was it to actually, you know, really report on the news? Man, bro, listen, bro. Like, were you looking for like a, like a cloud? Like, hey, I can get some clout off this, you know? Nah, right, and here, right? Now, right?

So I first started because I've seen some cools attacking Omar Johnson. And I say, yo, this is some severe cool shit. let's hop on and spread the facts and defend this man, right? So that's how I started, right, was to spread the information into the defendant black man. Right. What's your definition never cool? I love this young man, bro.

Well, here, right? You are always going against your own race for the infrastructure, right? saying this, there were real coons, right, saying, yo, Umar Johnson and blah blah blah, if he's pro-black, if his entire existence is, I'm trying to do for black people for us to make his independent, right?

And you as a black man is doing everything you can on a daily basis to go against his mission of black independence, you go, your coon. How about you? Has this school opened up yet? Nope. Well, yes, right? Yes, right?

So, yeah, right? Summer school, it's like that, right? But the actual like, like, like, like, like, a K through 12, 12, like, you know, like calendar year school, no. So he opened a summer camp. Well, hey. That ain't the school. He didn't make up statistics and shit. You know what I'm saying?

You ever been at your race when you buy some money? race when you buy some liquor, or you buy some shoes and shit like that, he'll say some wild shit that ain't even true. African-American spent $1 billion on alcohol. When the fuck if you ever been asked your race when you buy some goddamn alcohol? We just spent a billion dollars on Eric Jordans. When the fuck you've ever been to ask your race when you buy some Jordans? That shit is made up.

You get what I'm saying? Manny, bro. He never, he never cited a source. This thing of makeup shit. He knows how to attack you emotionally. listen to the emotions that he won all based off of this shit and not this shit he go right here i fuck with umar joss's message overall but the nitty be on some straight-up bullshit you know what i'm saying we do have to play certain rules and roles in government you do realize you have a say-so

in your street shit of course so we've been tricked out of doing the census we've been tricked out of that shit we don't go to pta meetings and stuff like that you'd understand that's important your local elections and so like that that's important let's really back here you How about you? We're doing, right? If he raised 700,000, right? Up until, till, 2020, right? Of a dream.

That didn't happen. Spent $450 buying the school, right? The entire age back alone costs like $200, right? So now when they're saying, yo, okay, I bought the school that needs heavy. I'm talking about heavy renovation. I spent that plus the age back is like 99% of the cash now. Now guess what? I have to raise enough.

No, now go get a loan. You believe in this. Exactly. Exactly. Go to the bank. Stop trying to have the whole world build your shit. Go to the bank. Go get you alone.

This your shit. Stand on your shit. You get what I'm saying? Because my cousin's on the school in the community right now that's doing great. Crete Academy. Right there on 60th and Chris y'all, bro. My cousin, nigga, same last name, everything, on that school. Go to the bank, nigga.

Well, here, right? Man, we're going to be defending Dr. Oh shit now, man. No, no, we can spend it, make it. That's the thing, right? Right? Yeah, I want to. Yeah, right?

Is he stated, though, that if you put white dollars into a black project, it's like almost impossible to, like, you know, it's in the purity of the mission. That's stupid because the dollars is white anyways. It doesn't matter. Those hardworking people that's donating, they work for the white man. So them dollars is white, period. And then at the end of the day, once that loan comes into your name, it's a black man dollar. Once that, that's a black man's credit going to go get, that's the black man's money once it gets your pocket.

Understood. Is that always true, though? We got to remember what it's called alone, fellas. I have to put it on to you. Go ahead. How do you, you know, I really want to know, church, like, for you, what's been going on with you, man? Like, was your first goal liking this to get clout? or we're like you really trying to report on some shit,

like really trying to bring your perspective to things. Yeah, I would just say. He let us know what it was. You know, he was trying to spread information. I was in it for the money for my opinion. I consider myself an opinionist. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

I feel like, all right, this is out here and everything like that. Let me put my opinion on it. And then you can debate the merits of my opinion. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Go ahead. Well, I'm about to say, where was you at in life and like,

Where did you start at to where, like, what area and all that stuff? And then to where you was like, you know what, out of seeing so much street stuff and all this, I'm going to jump into this reporting game, like. It had me getting, like, leaving all that shit, just getting on the truck and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? So I'm already at a mindset of we already doing enough chaos. You know what I'm saying? Let me see if I can, because I didn't train over 30 people on how to drive a big rig. You get what I mean?

30 people. 10 from around here. You get what I'm saying? Just putting them on, taking my time, my patience. This same cadence that I have is the same cadence if you're messing up. You get what I'm saying? What happened, like I said, it just came from the disrespect that I seen. And it's like, bro, been in this shit, the street since nine years old, took it from northern to southern.

You get what I'm saying? So for me, it was just like, they can't value that. This is insane. Like, was it you seeing it in northern California? You said you've been in the truck and it's going around the world that stuff. I was out there in BR. You know what I'm saying? Out there in Dallas.

Out there are certain places and everything. It's all still seeming the same. So the same mess as I can have in L.A., the same mess I can have in Cali, the same message I can hear that. I know that I could say it in a way that everybody going to be able to understand it. That's why I didn't keep it to California.

My first videos had nothing to do with Cali. It was New York. It was Atlanta. It was Chicago. Because I knew. Did you do that on purpose? Yeah, 100%. like a tactic.

I didn't want to localize my stuff. I truly didn't because I can say something that's close to them. Like, yo, yo, you can't really do that. But if I do it about a rapper, you get what I'm saying? If it's a rapper, everything is out there to open. I can't do this by homie around the block that just went on the news and all that shit. And then I start filling this stuff because then that's going to be a problem. Then I'm going to get some calls.

I mean, I feel like having your ducks in a row is almost as important as being a rapper. Because as influencers, you know, people who do the content that you do, it's your image as well. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's very important, right? It's your image as well. It's just like a rapper

because they always say rappers is going to have their ducks in order. You know, as influencers or, you know, people blog or whatever the case may be, creating content, it's your image too, man. You know what I'm saying? It's very important how you go about that shit.

I feel like it's a clout thing. And everybody is guilty of it, but having the dying instinct to want to report first on certain shit. You get what I'm saying? I feel like the fact that you want to be the first person to drop so you have dropped something. And this goes for a lot of people in the media. I had to stop doing that because I put out the raw shit. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Like you wanted it. And I feel like that's where you guys missed the spreading the information with the cloud thing. because I'm like, if you fall back, if you had the most resource for a reliable video, you're doing the same amount of views than just talking out the side of your neck to get the first piece of content.

Just piecing stories together off of five different YouTube stories. But somebody like Sending Ash post something that was very impactful that never got any shine for it. Kind of like just moved along. Yeah, exonerating Dirk is snitching. Nobody else ran that.

I fully exonerated this nigga. Didn't. tell none of this stuff. Nigger was solid. He'd never been indicted. None of that. All the views belong to me. No major media player.

None of that stuff. So I'm kind of starting to notice a little bit that they ain't feeling Dirk as much as they was way before. Did you put the rat story out on Dirk? I originally didn't. But because it was out there, I ran with it, which makes me just as guilty any goddamn ones. You know what I'm saying?

All right. So would you, you, you, you, redacted your statements, all right, that make you a real nigga, but I feel like that the world doesn't want to hear about somebody who didn't rat. Yep, you want 100% right. I feel like the world doesn't give a fuck who

didn't right. They want to hear. You see, he's still a rat. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying Dirk's still a rat, but they want him to be a rat. They want to talk shit. They want people to be rats other than being, you know what I mean, like, when you get exonerated to all the charges and everybody's just

silent. Because then they try to, they try to force me to go at Bay Zoo. You know what I'm saying? Because when I'm out there, shout out T.H.F. Miller, that's my nigger. When I'm out there and everything like that, those are some of the cast that I rock with. You know, we get accused of the Chicago shit with the people that, you know that. We know it all that shit.

I got a question for you, you know, because I want to know, like, you know, you moving to L.A. In the very beginning, you didn't really leave the house at a point. You know, you didn't really go outside. Are you getting outside now? Are you going to more events and things like that?

Nah, bro. No why, right? No why, right? Why, right? You know why, bro? Tell us why. For like, here. If you're scared, go to church.

Now, look, now, look, so is the, like, the, the, the legacy media dudes, right, they started in 2016. Do you? What are going to ask you? What, what, wait? They're getting outside, man. We are. Yeah, bro. Come on.

We got, we got time management. Come on. Wait, though. I'm saying no, and here's why, right? And they started in 2016, and I started in 2020. And I'm outside chilling and doing the bare minimum. How can I ever catch up? Right, no, right?

So I stay inside. I have to make the sacrifice. Why? Because my goal is I have to catch up with niggas. You told me? But you got to get outside too and show face, floco. I ain't saying that you need to just be outside. all the time, my nigga,

and you got to go to every fucking little thing that's cracking. But you got to get outside and make them connections because there's probably people that probably would like to do interviews with you and content with you and things like that.

You have to go and rub elbows and let them know like in person like it's cool. Like, hey, you want to come through the interview? They might fuck with you more. It's not going to work off a DM or trying to keep it so much in a virtual standpoint.

Because me and Shark been walking shit down. Man, on my mama my nigga, outside. Outside and really bumping shoulders with niggins. Soon as me and them, man, we run into the celebrities. People take pictures. I'm making sure we're locking in. Let's get the interview going.

Like, it's going to be some shit going. Like, we're going to move. Not first. But that's the only way that's going to happen is you got to get outside and show face, my nigga. Because people who mess with people, they like it. Yeah. They're not going to hurt little old flaco. They're going to do you like this, though.

Man, stop the brand. Man, shoo- You're one of them niggas, man. Come on them, man. My thing is this, right? Right? Nah, man, right? No, right?

Here, right? So, like, is that what you're trying to avoid? No, no, no, not. No, no, no, no, bro. Because you know those niggins like him outside, right? Who? That grab you up by your mother's daughter. Man, stop it, brother.

Stopping, man. You've been outside with me. Yeah. What the killers and the robbers do when they see? Man, shake your hand. Her hugs or shake hands or salute. Either one. 20 niggas in a row walking out.

And listen, these niggins, hey. I'm just telling him like he asked me, so I'm telling you what I saw. So, nah, he ain't outside to answer the questions. No, no, no, no, brother. And that's cool. You ain't, you know, but you should be. You should make those connections.

Nah, man, hey, go outside. Listen, go outside to like a party for like two hours or make a, no, you ain't got to be out there for two hours. I choose, you know, I choose a video over the bar. You don't got to be there two hours. It's not about always just about, party and shit because I'm someone doing this media shit. It's not. Like, you build relationships

doing shit like that. Like, I was in the studio with Reese for the last three, four days. Like, I was in the studio. How was that experience? That's cool. I think him and Tay working on the EP together or something, but they know, they're cooking us and shit. So it was just those relationships and shit, it lasts longer. Like, a nigga see you

outside of no jumper, you know what I'm saying? You build outside of this shit, too. I was in the studio with Little Rock. I don't know if you know what that is. He's signed a Gucci Man and shit. So, like, sometimes just popping out and shit. How was it building the relationship with Lurice for those four days? That was cool, you know what I'm saying? Lil Rese, he's a different nigga, man.

Lerese, he, you know, he alleging his own right. So he's funny as hell and shit. Allie. If you, like, all right, because, like, a lot of people got, like, the, everyone scared of Risi on the internet and shit. Like, a lot of people. My boyfriend at trenches in his show. But he, for sure, he's a real nigga.

He's a real good, solid nigga, though. You know what I'm a funny, solid nigga boy, boy. He's a alley cat, boy. Yeah. He's a demon-old. He's on demon-Dimon. I'm not just with no pistol, but just, he just, he got them, you know, if you know, if you know.

I've noticed a lot of rappers, you know, who take offense or, like, kind of take personal to some of the content that you guys put, you know, y'all put out, man. I'm going to ask y'all, do y'all feel like, do y'all feel like rappers should really care? I mean, so much like rapist that I think it's much. Right, listen, I've coined his model from the first time, right?

I got here, right? Well, fuck these rapity rapping. niggas, right? Why, right? Listen, why? Because these niggas will say, yo, fuck academics, right? Right? And go do action and they barely talk. They like, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, right? But right here, right? Who? Is baby drill and, and, um, and. Y'all knew. Yeah, right? Went to action, right? Me, like, like, like, screwing up against acting. You feel me? Right? Like, right, again, barely talking with academics. I like to look at like the bootleg, like, like, uh, you know, like Kave. Yeah, right. The ESTG.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shout out, Bull Lake, yeah. Shout out. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. And he's talking with Bullock Kav and having a good old time of Bullock Kav chopping it up, but they go do academic shit and he's me mucking with that.

But you know why don't, right? Because these niggas hate, hey, listen, they, they don't respect black media, bro. It's not that. You forced, you have an opinion. Your opinion is personal about me. Yeah, they rappers and stuff like that, but when academics can come out and say, hey, I'll fuck up a little baby and all this shit.

Now you ain't talking about the music and all that. You're making it personal. That's the problem. Fuck with academics. But at the same time, when you make this personal, you don't have the ability to tell me how to react. But the reason though... And I'll catch that.

The baby drill to... The reason though... The baby drill will have to, like, not, like, speak to academic... Again, it's, listen, right, look, if you agree to doing an interview, right? Go do it and at least open up your mouth and speak to a nigga, right? But you... Says who? You agree to the interview, right?

Like, like... I didn't agree to your style of interviewing how I'm supposed to do it. Noody agreed to it. He probably was the tag along. Hey, man, hey. It's a bad look, right? If you are not talking and me mugging black media and then go, right? And then go to Bullack.

calf and you are mad social talk like a motherfucker but Buley Cabe don't be doing no bitch ass shit nigga don't be on no bitch ass shit What opinion does Buleg Cave have that's really controversial

Well on academics be on some whole shit sometimes and then when he get out of his whole feelings he wanted to go book the artist when he was in when he was just acting like a hoe and then he expect them to just all right yeah I'm gonna pull up but at the end of the day I'm not gonna be social because you already didn't have so many opinions on the shit we got going on

and then you build bullshit-ass narratives like I'm gonna watch what I say what I'm around you bootleg kev is a likable white man that stays the fuck out of those murder politics and all that putting his jacket on this nigga and this nigga and calling niggas a bitch and he gonna slap him in doing that he specifically stick to music or if you do something that's so egregious in the public you had to say something sure but with the So I've never heard Aks say a bad word about baby drill, right? But he goes and he still screwed up a mean face. But then when you go to white man shit, you're talking like you like a Valley Suburban.

Oh, my. Yes, sir. Like, like Matt happy to meet it. Yeah, but it could be about somebody else. But this academic thing. But this is the thing. It could be about somebody else that they rock with that they pissed off about. Wait, what, wait, though.

No, because look, right, right, let's just be fair and square, right? Act don't like Sharp, don't like Brick, right? Of course. Nah, no, we could. We fuck with that. But at the same time, we fuck with that. I'm not sparing the niggas opinions. I'm not calling them a bitch-ass shit.

But what I'm saying is, is, bruh, how in which they decide to react to you could be based off a submoves that you said about somebody that they cool me. Sure, sure, sure. You get what I'm saying? Sure, right? But question, though, right? I would say that academics is, is light years more impactful than like

who like have, right? Depend on where you want to impact. I like where Bullitt can't go on. I don't know. What? Depends on where you want to impact. I like it. Who's more impactful?

No, we got to keep it up being. I got more impact. What? It's right? I said it depends on who you want to impact. That's what I said. Radio personnel. Are we talking about what we're talking about

YouTube, new media on YouTube? Which one are we talking? The Intent. entire rap media. Listen, AC has more stock in rap media. I just say,

but see, it's media. We're not talking music, though. You know what I'm saying? We're talking about, yeah, baby drill, yes,

I want to, I want to be social with the person that's still spinning records. He's going to ask me about my music, yeah, I'll be social

with him. Because guess what? After he takes a liking to me, when he has a free, when he has a free open slot on one in shit, guess what he's going

going to throw in the rotation from that good interview? Let me throw baby drill on Let me let me spend this a couple times Like you yeah but though Why they're trying to please them They don't give a fuck about looking more gangsters They are they are

They're gangsters are Act wants to know how much of a gangster you are Who you slid on this type of shit Because where's the academics music You know what I'm saying? Where's what? Exactly where's the academics music stuff at That's helping out a new artist

Or helping push artists Like his odds Like his like his like Like, he was like Spotify playlist. But I've always understood that his content, listen. But what I've always understood, like, and it is weird-ass defense. Like, what I've always understood, like, that's not what he base his content on. Exactly.

Like, that's not his confidence. That's not his confidence. That's not his content. You know what I'm saying? That's not his game. Overall, does academic... I'm not mad at him for not posting somebody's music or something like that because, to me, it doesn't seem like that's ever been his game.

And it's two different lengths. But I look at that, though, right? right and say yo like how dare you niggas go to again a rap media god so again like he's earned that she like he's a rap media god right now the fact that you two new niggas go to a rap media

god and like you treat him worse than you treat like bull like calf nah bro it's two different lanes though bro I get what you trying to say you're talking about hold a fuck on because I didn't understand that what you mean two niggins to who so he basically it's two different lanes

that's what I'm trying to tell you why he he's more social. Nudy went to academic shit and treated him foul. But then go to, go to, go to, go to Gail it.

I have a flagger, we got to call a spade though. You know when niggas get on an ad podcast and shit, you're going to have your guards up

on some polices shit. Way more than you would going to go into a bulletin' Kevin. He's not going to ask you any questions that me you ask you.

Let's start there. What questions that? Like, like, what directions did the questions go in? Hold on, hold on,

hold on, hold on. The questions, and I keep telling you this, these motherfuckers are worried about spins and getting their music on. Yes, I'm not going to mean mug, bootleg, Kev, who still has something going to do with the whole Western region when it comes to the radio. Me being from the South, I have to come over here

and spread this to be, even though they run, the Southeast region runs rap, I still come over here and I do a good interview with him and I get my shit spent. This nigga act, he always be on some bullshit and you don't know go back, put young guy, young nudie I mean put academics and young nudie

and see if something pop up, you know he got a gang a dumb ass shit to say about people. It could have been early in his career. Let's the boy. They must ask them, though, who's your favorite rappers? That's every right. No, like they would not answer for like 10 seconds.

Let's put it to the next time. I got a question. I got a question that I wanted to bring up. You know, because we've been talking about rappers. Yeah. You know, so I feel like it's only right to ask y'all because I want to really know your opinion. How do y'all feel about finesse two times? Two of them.

Talking about attacking bloggers. His comments. Cool shit, man. You all feel about that. Everything cool and shit. This nigga. Yeah, everything is cool and elaborate. He's obviously upset.

Did you know what this morning? No, I was not. This how I feel about it. I was on the news with you. I'll say what I said. I feel like finesseeced two times. When he first came out of jail, the bloggers and shit, we gassed him up. When he first came out of jail, he was getting a handcuff fucking diamonds and shit.

He had the crazy chain. He had like the KKK members on the chain. We posting all that shit. We gassing them up. The bloggers gassing that shit up. As soon as the snitch allegations came, now he don't fuck with the bloggers. So I feel like it. So his narrative, he ain't, he don't fuck with bloggers and shit after that snitch shit happened.

So now he want to kill bloggers and shit. But at one point, we were super beneficial to him. when we was posting his jury and a little shit about him making him viral saying he got two girlfriends and shit at the time so i feel like you know what i'm saying you feel like that's the same thing to happen like with soldier boy i feel like that shit i feel like that's saying like where the problems be stemming is like it seems like it's a love-hate relationship that's good social boy just a bitch that's the problem but it seems like there's this love hate relationship between the bloggers and you know the artists you know like going on this roller coaster ride because like you should have

They fuck with you today and then tomorrow it's like, fuck you. Yeah, you can make like 20 good posts about somebody, make them look good and then one bad post. Of course. We talked about this. Yeah, no. We talked about this. Here, he should have sat though, right?

Because his issue is with one blogger. And that's 1090, right? I think I'm part of playing that. I think I'm part of playing that. Right? He should have said, yo, you kill that nigga. You feel like you say you played a part of this? Yeah, because first of, Finness.

I'll get up with you. We can just do that automatically. I still fuck with your music. I'll pick your monkey ass up. Then we can have that. First off, you had two of your homies crash out anyways in front of everybody. You just guaranteed these niggas no less than 15 years.

Because your bitch-ass ego keep getting in your way. The nigger don't understand in order to elevate. You still had to be likable. So you're talking about smoke niggas. You're going to fuck around and get one of you rapper smoke.

You're just seen how when that nigga Jay Pritz Jr. posted that rat shit with goddamn gunning and doing this on his head. I know you felt some type of way. You see what I'm saying? The very next day, now you post, let's get on these bloggers and shit like that.

Because the niggas said, oh, yeah, you ain't say nothing. You ain't say nothing, Jay Prince Jr. About this nigga finesse two times. And we don't got the paperwork, so putting the snitch shit on him, opposed to his reaction, just saying, nigga, hey,

right or all, my niggas gonna stand with me. Yeah. Nah, that's not how you're supposed to react to that. You're supposed to say like this. Ain't no smut on my name until you niggas see the paperwork, man don't say shit. That's how you're supposed to react.

The niggas been rocking with me for a while. If this paperwork shit with some real shit, why ain't niggas my motherfucking done? I'm a vice lord. You know how we get down here. Memphis, we directly right down the street up to 57 from Chicago, a nigga what this shit is at? Him spreading that message, you know,

because he got a lot of fans, bro. And you know when you empower like that, because he got power, you know, with that type of notoriety comes a certain set of power. You know what I'm saying? him saying things like that to attack bloggers you know what I'm saying and people like that like there's gonna be some people that may listen to that and I just want my nigga Vanessa to understand like hey bro you guys you can get him on the phone you can get him on the phone I don't even do it

bro I'll be respectful with it listen I don't even want to do it spider man say up may say great power come great responsibility yeah yeah go ahead first of all first and foremost come he was with all the media shit just like he said right Now, him saying to kill a vlogger ain't there, niggas, to attack. Nobody's, nobody's, nobody's, no, these street niggas are listening to that. Right. Like he said, right or wrong, my niggas is going to stand with me.

Very suspect answer in the middle of some snitch allegations. You get what I'm saying? Niggas is cutting ties with you. You're not going at the rappers that's cutting ties with you over these snitch allegations. You're going at the media for it, right? but ain't nobody sliding for finesse two times. This is a nigga from Memphis that live in here. Like I'm not trying to get on your bad side.

Like I said, I don't want to do it, but, like, because I don't hold no weight in the streets to me. Like, your biggest weight that you, your biggest stunt that you pulled with your name is being up under Jay Prince. Other than that, we don't know you for laying down law, game. We don't know you for that. You know what I said? You're a good rapper, because stay in your lane.

before you really just, niggas don't report on you at all. Ricky Hapty, knock it the fuck off before you get knocked the fuck out. When these real bloggers that really walk around with that shit, that niggas be talking about, that rye-ri-ri-shin and everything like that, you have no idea to commercial. Because this is where, and Flocko, you see this vision here with me, okay? The blogging game has changed because now you're starting to have street niggas come in and start putting their opinion.

So it's not the little, and no offense to them, It's not the little Neons reporting on you or the aid in Rosses. And I'm no offense to them. No offense to them guys. Nothing beloved. You're something on the street surface. Yeah, them niggas.

And no offense to them. But like, to niggins in the street, that shit ain't no physical threat to niggas. You know what I'm saying? They don't give a fuck about that. But like, you got real street niggas reporting now on some of this and catching some cool fire, some flame from it.

You know what I'm saying? And motherfuckers is fucking with them. And people are listening to them. They're engaging. You know, so it's not going to be, the same as like, hey, nigga, we're going to bully you over it because you're going to hit one of these street niggins.

I don't give a fuck, niggins. It's up then. Nicky, what's up, man? I'm going to still keep posting. We could do some real fuck shit in blackballing, didn't what? You about to have two keys. I want to speak on blackballing, pause, you know, and how, you know, because Flacco will say,

I know we can, because we were talking about it earlier, but I really want to throw a magnifying glass on it. Because I'm like, do you feel like, because you had made a comment that you said Drake you'd be like if we came to get like I could stop Drake shine pretty much like I could stop I could shut Drake down yeah I mean I'm just report no motherfucker two times we can't yeah they damn here that's two different people well we're saying we can say the finesse two times is reachable right but we're talking about Drake like flaco made this state you know what I'm saying so I'm just trying to hold flaco if we wanted

accountable and you kind of was with him to a certain degree that day on the phone I agree with it on a standpoint of I mean that's it's I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with it from a standpoint of this because I had a real if he wanted to we could but we that's a reach that's a it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna it's a fuck Drake bro Drake bro Drake yeah Drake this is Drake's new Kendrick Michael Jackson bro it don't matter my nigga yeah yeah so what's what can we do cancel them in an urban culture or something? Like, what are you going to do?

Ain't nobody cancelling a drink, not on media, niggas. No, wait, wait, right? I'm still waiting on that album, right? Here, right? No, look, right? I'm waiting on that album. Look, right? Hey, no.

Oh, wait, uh, it's Thursday night, too. Like, we're doing like a live reaction on, uh, RTTV. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, but though, yeah, right? No, but listen, if we, listen. Can I just take a bullet for you. with this Drake shit. That's how you're going to pay me?

Yeah, no, no. Look, right? Listen, we can do it. Oh, he got right back on Drake Dick the next week. Yeah, no, we can't do it. We come together though, but, hey, guess what, though? We're dealing with a group of niggers is always, well, shit, me. Man, like, you know, I don't see, you know, how's it possible?

Right, like, they don't, listen, they are always quick to say, oh, we can't do that. I'm not even going to try or opposed to. If we all come together, there's no artist who's bigger than the program. But, hey, these niggas will never come together. So that's why right now, we can't do it. But if we saw it. How many companies come together, though? A lot of companies are competing.

At the end of the day, Setti Nash, King AK-47, Flacco, y'all new media, but niggas is still competing at the end of the day. This nigga is going to make a video on Drake. King AK-40. So it's still competition in the end. So I don't see everybody coming together. how you know what that shit would do for Drake turn him up because we turn him up about he would have to he would have to we had to play dirty

he sucks no no no he's saying all of that we can say what's you doing what's what's no right now repeat rip it if we all right yo now he corny he would he sucks that nigger ass right on a consistent beat his every new media niggins of us come together bro he can't withstand it and then he comes out with the heart there's not thousands of us that have that type of motion I'm just being honest

he's trying to, that's why I said we almost there's infrastructure but all that's going to do he's going to drop an album right in the middle of that disin the media and it's going to go crazy and then look we write back talking about it you're just going to give him a new lane to

prospering right what like it's no way you're shutting down Drake. Even if a thousand is a way, but you got to pay $1,000. Too much money. He got too much money invested in this shit. I guarantee you that these fucking distro and all this shit, the money for marketing and all that, Drake's is putting millions, if not billions of dollars in these companies' pockets

through his marketing and all of this shit, bro. They're not stopping anything. Those labels that he's connected with, it's about a bag. Like, hey, nigger, this him again. We're going to fire you and put somebody else right there because, nigga, they just, gave us $250,000 for this single and nigga, you're not about to be sitting here talking crazy about Drake when he's one our

number one spenders. I'm 50. All right, look, this is how I feel about it. So look, all right, yeah, if niggas came together and shit, you can form narratives 100%. I know how it worked. Like, we, it happens all the time. So, yeah. If we have all right, we have five different media companies and he was like, all right, all five media

companies, we're going to say Drake whack. We ain't fucking with Drake. It could happen to a certain, not Drake per se. But I, we used Finnes, two times. can get finesse two times out the paint if niggas wanted to and i feel like drake is so established and shit there is not enough new media people who have influence on actual music yeah yeah yeah he would have to do something like that not because he didn't drop his album the day he thought it was going to right i don't and a lot of this new media shit that's you're saying

yeah and they don't have enough influence on actual the music like a lot of the new media and shit is street media like just comes to my next question is it really are you in into more like the music side of things. Like what kind of media do you feel like you produce at this point, Flaco, because... I do both, though. Because that's what I really want to do. I want to see if we can make the next goddamn rap person,

you know what I'm saying? Like, do you feel like you land more on the side? Do you feel like you land more on the musically inclined side of it to where you're like really like... Because I haven't heard you, niggas, like, do no type of music reviews. What? I'm just being honest.

I have, but they weren't feeling it. I don't care. I just haven't heard them. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're doing everything, you're doing fucking everything. You know what I'm saying? Bro, I'm going to see it. Like, not that, like, oh, well, try it and I stop.

I'll do all the big songs. But that's why, that's why I disagree with Falco, because a lot of, there's not a thousand, there's not a thousand media people or media personalities. It's not. That's a reach. That has a reach. That's a great. Like, yeah, if all the street YouTubers come together and say drag, drag,

drag, that shit, I don't think it's going to mean. Like, yeah, if all the street YouTube influences come together and start saying the narrative, I don't think it's going to affect the music. You know what I'm saying? I think Drake, he's to establish for anybody to, like Brick said, it had to be some crazy allegations against Drake. But like, that's what I said, we got to play dirty. The concept that he's saying is not too far-fetched.

Like, people banding together and start narratives and shit. But I just also want to say, like, it's not enough. You're saying the thousands of new media? There's not. A lot of y'all don't have, who has influence on the actual music part of it? That's the point. I'm just not answer to this question, though. Who has influence on music that's in this new media space?

Because a lot of it's like street shit going on. Wait, whoa, whoa, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, no, no, wait, wait. Question, right? Right? Is, wait, though. When it has to say cheese is, like, no jumper, act?

Like, the last time, like, they covered, like, music. Academics, definitely at one point. We're doing it right now. You're doing it on a meet. Cool. Say cheese, no jumper, DJ Small Lies. There's like a, yeah, right? They do, though.

They do it in the IG's. What? Like, it's always, Say cheese lets you post on this if you pay. But that's still. Not an influence, but like the like. That is influence. That is influence.

Because that's by your opinion. No, that's influence. You wouldn't buy a promo there if you didn't think you had to influence. Exactly. You want your song. You want your song on a say cheese, on the academics,

on a no jumper when you drop. So it has influence on the music side from the IG pages. But I'm talking about the new media that we keep talking about who has influence on the music side I give you that he's somebody who does but he said there's thousands of him let's name five more go see what I'm saying what's low cuz who reactions he was on the nose that morning short guy I'm must have missed a do but oketo no but if we thinking it's hard then the influence ain't there. Not to this.

No, no. My question, right, right? That theory. Right? I don't know a lot. I always believe in that thing. No. No, right, right?

I don't know what if I'm just saying. We're thinking it's hard. We have to be paying this nigga to react. Who is it? Who I'm trying to really think? I'm not sure, right? My question, right? Oh, no, I just know ghosts.

They will ask though, right? Right? Oh, who out of new media covers music? But there's no ask like who out of, out of like legacy media covers, a lot covers music. Right? Who?

They all do. You just got to pay for that promo. Because we're not covering it though, right? But saying, oh, Drake gets dropped. I get what you said. You're trying to talk about instant reaction to the music. Who does it? Where's the five mics like the source of shit?

Okay, who else? But that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying. All this, all this, you have a point. You were saying it wrong. You were saying it wrong. You were just saying it wrong, bro. But all this influence.

How could we not have influence then? That's all y'all. That's on you. You don't have an influence and not have to talk about it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. If you're saying that say cheese, no jumper, right, have influence over the music, and they also don't cover just the music, then how can we not have influence as well? And we don't cover just the music.

Because I'm going to keep it real. I've never went to Setting That's page. They'd be like, all right, this is the new hot shit that's from the drop. And I watch Setting That shit all the time. I'll listen to it real. I'm like, I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't go for setting

NASCAR music. I go for, this is how this was going on. Hold on. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

You don't do it on YouTube, but you do it. You do it on your page. I can say that. I see, I see new artists getting posted on Cubs page. I'll start, though. I have researched.

Did you, did you? I don't. I'll start. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, that's like, all right, let's cover rap. You got to get the flowers to the young niggies. Or they can pay for a promotion, too.

But you got to get the flowers to the people in the rap game. just reporting on all the controversy in their life is what make a motherfucker look at y'all sour. You get what I said? Like, all right, this is the new media. And the terms of the new media is like, very opinionated. And that's what I was saying.

What the fuck is the do's and the don'ts of new media? You're talking about no coon shit. Oh, no. All right, so no black people going at each other. But so it's so it's like, okay, so y'all not bigging up none of the new rappers. y'all really if they snitchie y'all go go do that shit and they're gonna put that shit up you know what I'm saying if they if they don't fight you give it upset

and we're gonna say it's cool shit then we need to like what I'm saying that's cool 100% of gang yeah it's like I never I never not once when any rapper jumped in mind by talking records I've never posted the conversation now the one time I can't never do that now I want to hear flaco I want to hear you elaborate about Yeah, Flacco's never done that.

Look, though, right? When he's posted somebody's conversation, like, he might talk about certain things. Other question. I'll let him veer up. Yeah. So is it, is it cool for you to, like, to post drama and shit,

but never just post uplifting shit so, like, you can. Who don't post a, like, who don't post the, is controversy coonerary? And uplifting shit, though. You said, who don't? Name some shit, all right, so, or name some rappers that you cracked off a help build. With your,

help build? Yeah. Without negativity. Because if you want to say everything's Kooning, if you build the niggins up. Right, right? Why didn't it say it's a hand big set? I say that.

Off the law, you feel me? Right? You feel me? Say, saying, say, yo listen. But that's only two rappers

I can see you No, wait. Wait, if I fuck with you, I... And because they're in L.A. and conceduatu.

I don't think. No. Child G. G. J. J. Jeeze and them. Yeah. Debto, you feel me? Wait, wait.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Child Jeeze and yous, he's, you feel me? That's a flaco. Like, no, just in your defense. So you pretty much, you make content.

If that shit's reachable, you're doing that shit. Yeah, of course, yeah. Of course, yeah. Of course, yeah. Of course, yeah. But he'll come in here and rap, saucy sat down the top to bottom and fucking Tony Wirwich, though.

Yeah, he will. I know like two bar from a living there. You're fucking right. Two bar from a nigga, man. No, but, bro, listen. Nah, man, no. But, hey, listen, like, again, like me personally, and they're a dope.

I go out of my way where I say, yo, listen, and he's dope and post him and shout him out, you feel me, right? That takes some time to do that right now, though. I feel like right now we need to start uplifting rappers and shit. So, like, who are y'all listening to right now? Like, right now, I'm fucking Wattie B fat, skillab baby.

Little Rye, he's going crazy. We were just talking about D-baby earlier. So named some rappers that, you know what I'm saying? We need to put some shot and spotlight on right now. The only can be rappers? Because I ain't a hodge. I'm fucking with Friday heavy. That nigg is hard. Like, yo, I fuck with him.

Who's that? You don't know who Friday is? Yo. Man, the singer? The last project was crazy. Yeah, that's nice. Boy, where he's from? Where he's from?

He's from Philly. All right? What kind of, right? Right? Because he's like, like, he's from there, but then he blew up and in, like, Atlanta, right? It doesn't matter. Yeah. What about you?

Flagwell, R's you for all right now. So, hey, man. So who, I listen to, like, on a daily basis, I would say it's definitely Big Sad right now, bro, like, to me like, he's shit for right. Him, I would say Shai G's, the U.S. Oh, Shani Bani from out of the Bronx. Like, she's hard as fuck.

Like, and there's like the young Lord, like, she's from, like, I think she's she's from Florida, right? But she does, like, drill shit, like she's hard as fuck too, right? And I was sort of like them, right, like, you know, the drinks. Look, look, look. The drinks and Roder's.

chance right here. This new rapper that just dropped the album right now, fresh out of LA. Come on, man. Come on, come on. This one. Take my phone. We got, we got Brian Hurst, baby, then we got Jeremy out of all, man. And shout out of Zion to Don out of D.C. What's the deal? What's the deal? What's up with you all, man? What's up? Love, man. Shit. Yeah, man, for sure. It's always good to put shine on the up and coming, man. It's important. You know, and I felt like shit, when this channel was built, that's what it was

So you know it's always good to see because you never know man's young man might be on his white man here in the next couple weeks Yeah for sure there's definitely My child that old boy since elementary No cat so for everybody who ain't catch your name break it out My name, you see me wait wait hold up since I was like at my age no cat How old is he now 36? You're 36? Yeah God damn yeah yeah I couldn't tell you

Right so for everybody who ain't catch your name and put them on So the abbreviation is J.O. or J. Outlaw. My real name is Jeremy Outlaw. Yeah. That ain't no stage name. That ain't no made-up name. My father. My brother.

All my uncles. But my rap name is my government name. Jay Outlaw. You ain't got no problem getting the checks. Yeah. You don't have no discrepancies at all. You ain't going to have no discrepancies at all. You feel me?

Where you grow up at? I grew up in the Crenshaw area. You feel me? Los Angeles. Killer California. You feel, my whole life. We grew up, we started on, we always lived somewhere off Crenshaw. Somewhere all Crenshaw, man.

Like, T.minton Park, West Adams area, like. 29th of Crenshaw, Victoria, Somerset, that's a shopping center right there that we very famous for. As kids, we was, we was very famous for doing shit, the niggas. A whole lot of shit. You know what I said? But, and then you expanded in, uh, Crenshaw in Slausen area. You know what I'm saying?

And also like now you networked and now you... I'm international. Yeah. Just to let you all know. Yeah, I just curated. So I'm one of the emerging artists, you feel me, in talents out of Los Angeles, California that curates, you feel me, in different demographics.

You feel me? I take the business side of the business, you feel me? Very, very, very real and very, very more important than the most. You feel me? So I actually just did a whole project, which is titled Committed to the Hustle, Volume 1. You feel me? Everybody's committed to their hustle. Y'all committed to a podcasting.

I'm committed to rapping. Some niggas committed to trapping. Some niggas committed to gang banging. Doctors, whatever. You feel me? Every entity. Somebody is committed to their hustle. So I wanted to title something that can relate to everybody.

You feel me? And distinguish, you feel me, a follower from a leader. Because a lot of niggas is followers. I'm a leader. Hustis. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I just curated a whole project on the East Coast with majority of the top emerging, you feel me?

East Coast artists. You know what I mean? And each borough, the Bronx, Queens, Harlem, Brooklyn, and Long Island, you feel me. Nassau County, just had a live listening party, live concert, unreleased video premiere, you feel me, and birthday bash on the East Coast four days ago. Then I just flew back here. Yeah.

Yeah, so he definitely been spreading his wings. I love that, man. Yeah, so the demographic is from Detroit. We got people that fuck. You feel, I got a cold following. You know, which people need to know, you need a cold following. What you fucking with out in the D?

So T.D. Pringle, we got Nail home, Tad Pringle. You feel me? We got money, GT. You feel me? G.T. fuck when my boys heavy. You feel me.

That's where you're all fucking with my nigga Tad Pringle out there. You know, he's popping right now, too. Yeah. I need to know, because we're coming to the ending of it where we land. What's the ultimate goal for y'all, man, for real? Like, what's the ultimate goal? Like, what's the end goal? to all this,

like all the madness you didn't been through put people through you as well because y'all niggas been through it. No, don't spare me. Don't spare me.

I appreciate it. Yeah, y'all, y'all have been through it and y'all put people through it as well because, hey, man, you kind of, you putting content out this. You know, like even on this young gentleman,

shit, him up and coming. Like, he does some shit tomorrow whether it's good or bad, y'all niggas might, you know, do something with it if it's something that you probably is worth posting. Of course.

Thanks. It's crazy. I look at certain things, all publicity is going to be. Because in this day and age, everything is going to be, you feel me. But I want to know. It's going to be broadcasting. You definitely moving in the music game. But these niggins is the ones that's going to blog you to keep you up.

If you really moving. They're going to be the ones that help you really actually keep some motion. That's why I try to ask them whether it's good or bad. So I try to ask them, like, what's the end goal here? Like, what's the, what do you want at all? this. Listen, man. But listen, man, like,

I just want to have my own media empire. I just want to be put in a position where I can actually... Will it be at the expense of, like, gentlemen like himself? Not, not. I want to know, like, for real.

Like, because I see what this shit do. Brick, you know what I'm saying? I see what this shit does. Well, it will it be at the expense of these rappers and you know, the up-and-comings? What? The covering them in like a negative night, right?

Whether it's good or bad. Doesn't matter. I know to listen. I know to bloggers, content's content. Dependent. Depending. Because everybody got their standards of what they will and won't do. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, here, bro, listen, rather it's positive or negative. If it's news, I'm going to cover it. But my job is just to not like, add on and be unfair in a commentary, you feel me?

Right? But though, my ultimate goal, my nigga, it's the build his empire, you know, again, you know, and be put in a position where I can now, like, give, you know, give back to, you know, the young niggas, you know? Yeah. So do you feel like if a young nigga come to you, like a young artist ever come an artist, like, hey, fly,

let's build together, like, I mean, he definitely throws you. Are you up to reporting and building somebody? Like helping somebody out, like, say in France. Like, every time he dropped, like, no matter what you're there for him and say, and you're right there from him, and y'all go tap it and this dude, are you with? Putting a rapper on for rap. That can't just be with you all, though. I got to be with the, see, the artist, you feel me?

But it starts for one. It starts with somebody. So, boom, these two people that I, you feel me, genuinely care about. You feel, me, regardless. because I have real relationships with them. They're y'all folks, you feel me? I have to understand, you feel me, if they're going to bring me across something, I have to build a court with you, you feel, me, and make amends

in some type of way for you to actually want to even be a part of my community. It's very true. You feel me? This is very true. You're not a fan. You're not a fan. You're not a fan. No, none of that.

You're a family, so you're a part of my family because you're part of their community. That's how I got to be. If it's not like that, I don't even want it. Because I'm popping regardless to what nobody think. That's how the artist's got to be, regardless anyway. You feel me? It's just an up and up. You feel me?

I got one up on niggas when I got somebody like, you feel me, sharp, got somebody like brick. I got somebody like flock. You feel me? I got somebody like Sedy Nash covering my shit right when it dropped. You feel me? Oh, yeah. Who is this motherfucker?

They want to know who I am, actually the person I am. You feel me? That's what I want people to understand who I am. You don't want them to know you just as the artist. You want them to know you as a person. You would think that Jay Outlaw is an artist. That's my government name, that's me. That ain't nobody.

That's not a made-up character. That's not a stage name. That's who I am. That's my authenticity. How about you, Sidney Nash, would you be willing to do something like that? I want to. Pick it up, like, an artist, like, through, like, your channel, and, like, every time they drop something, you do a reaction on it,

or you do something that may uplift what he's doing at the time. If he did something simple as he's doing an album release. Hey, you talk about it, baby, you spend a few of the tracks, you know, you commentate on it. I'm gonna be fair, like, when there are people who react to certain stuff I do, even when they disagree, if they stick to the opinion, I repost it on my YouTube for free. Or there'll be, I'm on Instagram and stuff like that and all this stuff, and I'm talking about some real shit. You know what I'm saying? If they repost it, just what I'm saying on my stuff, I'll repost it on my YouTube for free. now do I want to get in that space of where cats is rapping and I'll rate their bars and all that I'd love to do that like that'd be dope as hell but my whole thing is is to make my opinion sometimes a standard in certain places yeah you get what I'm saying it's all my mind sitting down with a say cheese with a V's TV with uh whoever you know what I'm saying with the Joe Bunn's and all that stuff and everything like that like Joe Bunn one of my favorite rappers all the time I don't know move music all the way up until full You get what I'm saying?

But I'm just working on just the way, same way, like kill somebody, his media empire and everything like that. Man, I want all of that. And then so. I need extras. You get what I'm saying? Absolutely. And we got to understand, too, that this is a business.

Yeah. You feel me? No, it's a business. You can report on the bad shit. But then it's like, okay, new media. If y'all say y'all to forefront of new media, it's like, so we can't get no breaking. and talking to y'all. You know, I rap still, shit.

This is all thing. So there's no breaking the artist through the new media. Like, the only way that the artist can break is if he's shooting a nigga in the face and get out of jail. Music is hard. Yeah, I mean, like, you know what's the way that they go about getting broke as an artist? Just keep on spinning the bag or where, because like those posts really mean nothing if you don't shine light on who this artist is.

Like, it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do want to interview some artists in their music. I don't know what you have to say it. Like, bro, yeah, bro. Yeah, bro, bro, like here, right? Bro, listen, if you make, like, good enough music, bro, like, like, them don't cover you. Like, like, for example, right?

Like, biggest, right? Biggest fide for they, howdy. No, no, like, when I'm, like, on, like, YouTube live, right? Bro, bro, bro, like, I've thrown on, like, a shot, right? Right, feel me, right? Why? Just because I fuck a nigga shit.

If you, you feel what I'm a, right? Because you are, right? So if you make. J. Jones, about just hard, like just some uneniable shit, folks don't cover you, so on me? Yeah. Do you shine light on what type of duty is? Yeah, of course.

Or Zia, Rapiddy Rapid ass knick. Who? Sadis? Yeah. Nah, bro. Here, bro. Here, here, right? When it comes to, like, rapy, rap-d-at nickers, right?

Most of talking about these, like, over-the-top street dudes who just hate being, being, you know, like, talked about, right? Right, right? And they try to enforce a bully the way through, right? So those are right, right, right? You know, but like, dude's like shy jesus and you're just an unbrose, those are just some young kids. They're like 18 years old trying to grind, right? So yeah, for me, like, I post him for free.

I tell by them, you feel me? Like, for free, right? Why? Because I truly believe in his music. You feel me? So if you come to me, like, you'll cover me, all right. You know, but, like, have some shit. You got to be hot.

No, it got to be out. Yeah, it does. To be there, there's no way you're going to... That's uneniable, you know. You're going to take off in this world without the music being. Got to be. But not, not, no, no. I'm not.

No question. Because, who, like, Travis Scott took off, just buying some fake, you know, just buying, you know, you know, like buying, you know, like the fake streams, fake playlisting, you feel me? Moneyman took off through fake shit too, you feel me? So, you know. My whole flock up.

We're going to keep, we're going to, listen. We're going to end this one right here. Flacco B, hey, listen, I think that's another conversation for another time, because I know you want to dive in. That should have go for hours. Yeah. I appreciate y'all for coming, setting ass, Jay. I lo, you stopping on through remote wherever you had in the building. My nigga, Brian Hurd baby here with us too.

Having, you know, hey, my man Flacco coming through and of course, man, you know the one and only, man, brick and the motherfucking building. Brick flaring the building with us, man. Y'all know what it is, man. The sharp tank, no jumper. sharpest coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Donnie, shoot us out the motherfucking gym. Peace.