No Jumper - Sharp & Masika Get Into HEATED Argument and Sharp Walks Out

Episode Date: August 11, 2023

Masika sits down with Sharp to talk about her rise in the public eye, growing up surrounded by mean girls, reality TV and more! Everything ran smoothly until it didn't…! ----- 00:00 Intro 5:37 The boundaries Masika has for her daughters, and how they shouldn't NEED a dude but want a dude 9:30 Masika is attracted to power, and wants a man who knows how to lead 10:51 Masika says podcast equipment was on sale at some point for all these so-called podcasts about relationships poppin' out 14:19 Heal before a relationship and not trying to bring baggage to the next person 23:09 Masika on bad behavior being rewarded that go viral and clicks 25:15 Masika said she was naive when she got on Love & Hip Hop, she just wanted a bag but they wanted dirt on rappers 27:05 Masika sent DMs from Bieber, Wayne and Mally Mall 29:20 Masika explains what's really going on behind the scenes 31:58 Masika explains what happened with Johnny Blaze, they were both framed to fake fights on Growing up Hip Hop 35:23 Masika breaks down how Growing up Hip Hop chop up actors' voices from random moments to make conversations that never actually happened 40:51 Masika on going to school with white mean girls 47:03 Masika used to battle rap growing up 51:47 Masika got kicked out when she was18 with no money, no clothes, nothing 54:37 Masika old label rep was a creep tryna massage her in the studio 56:54 Masika might consider doing Housewife reality show but not Baddies, Sharp doesn't know the concept of the show 59:11 Masika is frustrated that Sharp doesn't know the show's background 1:00:19 Masika says Baddies is about fighting on TV and she doesn't want to do that 1:03:42 Sharp implies that these reality casts should help each other to be better, and that's clearly not the plot of these shows, calls Masika selfish 1:04:36 Masika counters and asks if Sharp in his previous life he was helping girls to get off the streets 1:06:15 Masika doesn't wanna do Baddies, but Sharp keeps going in 1:07:45 Masika defends herself, Sharp loses it ----- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Like that how when he said we're good? I'll just pop it up. Here, yes. What you gotta do? You're ready.

If you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready. We got Maceka, Kalisha, in here. Did I say that right back? You said it perfectly. I know I got a raspy voice with it, but you know, I'm trying to do it. I told you. I was like, look, I said, I didn't know who you were, right? I knew, I knew somewhat, but I didn't know.

who you were. But I said if I would have heard you in a Target or at a Walmart from around the corner, I would have thought you sounded like ugly bitch, but I would have been like, damn, okay, she actually bad. Like, and she sound like a chick that got something going on. This voice sound real powerful. I'm telling you, I can never get past this voice. I'll be at a Target or a Walmart. I'm going to be talking and people from the next aisle be like, is that musica? Because the voice is just so, it's a little deep, it's a little raspy. it is welcome thank you thank you for coming I appreciate it where'd you come from you LA bound heaven you all you're in LA came from heaven yeah with the

angels and Jesus it's pretty far I traveled for you it's pretty far traveled for me though you did it yeah I love no but I live I live I live here now I've been here for about 12 years yeah where originally before I'm Chicago born raised okay and then my parents moved to Atlanta when I was still in high school and then I dropped out of and moved LA. Yeah. Okay. Moving and grooving.

See, me knowing that you want of these little popping little chicks, right? Big. You're popping. Big. Okay, big and never the little. Yeah, thank you. I get that, okay? I understand.

Thank you. I get that, okay. What I admired about you the most is you didn't come in with a whole bunch of fucking goddy jewelry on trying to be like, we already know you know. You just got to came in class and you didn't bring you too much.

I mean, it's still honey. But it's cute. But it's cute. It's worn well. Thank you. I like to be a lady. I really respect that. You like to be a lady.

Stainty. Well, sometimes, girl, you know you've been known to get on the dark side. Oh, if I have to. The dark side of things. If I have to. How old are your babies? So I have a nine-month-old and a seven-year-old. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The best thing that ever happened to me changed my life. Yeah. My girls, just. What was you doing before? Whatever I wanted, everything, anything.

He was dangerous. Outside. He was dangerous. No patience. Didn't give. You know, I mean, before you have children, when you're in your 20s, you're young, you just live, you know, you have fun. You live for the day. No, I'm okay.

I'm okay. Still cold. Thank you. I appreciate it. I might need a refill a minute. But we got one sitting on reserve, baby. Of course you do. And I want to get to know you.

Yeah, yeah. And let your fans see you, you know, in the tank. Yeah. You know, and sitting back and just relaxing and getting to see a different side of you. I'm excited about this, honestly. Like, I haven't done interviews in a while. When I was pregnant with my daughter last year, I didn't. You get to pop your chair.

We'll repop your chair. There we go. You know, I kind of. You know, I kind of just went quiet for like the whole pregnancy. I didn't want even to know I was pregnant. I had so much turmoil publicly during my first pregnancy. So I literally. Both of them, feddy kids?

No, no, no, no. One just about Fettie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, shout out to my nigga Fettie Watt, man. Free Fettie Watt. Get him outside. We're going to talk about that, too. I bet.

I just wanted to see if, you know, you might have just been like, you know, shit, I have froze some of your semen. I went to the doctor. I don't want to have two different baby daddies. You know, there's some chicks that pride themselves on that. Listen. They'd be like, no parents. They'd be like, nope, I got the same baby. That's no way, no hour.

I ain't doing it. My kids got the same father. you know? Yeah. Uh-uh. I know it's not fortunate for everybody, though. Uh-uh. No.

No, I got married and I had a kid with my husband. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I actually did like, went down like, you know, moral road. Yeah. Yeah. We did that. She went down moral road on this one time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This time. Yeah. Yeah, it's a whole different experience, you know. So, yeah, two beautiful girls. Yeah. And it just kind of, it gave me patient. because like I said, I never had it,

and made me, like, set roots, like, get grounded because I was just doing whatever. Now I'm big on investing and, you know, stocks and generational wealth and making sure that my daughters are set up for the future so they don't have to deal with the things that I had to deal with and having to figure out and, like, you know, I never want them to have to make a decision based off of need. You know what I'm saying?

I never want my daughters to ever be in survival mode. So having one daughter and then, and then having another one, like it just changed everything for me. Yeah. Yeah. So I haven't done any interviews or anything like that because, like I said, I was kind of just quiet through my whole pregnancy. I announced that I had my daughter when she was two weeks old. And everybody was like, wait a minute.

What? You had a who? Wait a minute. People thought it was a baby I borrowed because, like, you know, no one just knew. No one who was pregnant. So I haven't done interviews. I haven't done press. I haven't done any of that.

The first time I did any press was BT weekend. And, you know, that wasn't just catered to me. Of course, it was cared to everybody. So I thought it would, you know, I'm like, okay, the first interview I do, it got to be something where it can just be real transparent, talk about things I never talked about before. So, yeah, I'm really excited to be here. What's a couple things that you feel like you don't never want to happen to your daughters that happen to you? Because it's got to be like, right, I just wanted to touch on that because it's got to be something, right, that kind of like, no way, no how this is what changed. It doesn't be 100 things.

Yeah. That'll make you change. It'll be a couple of key core things that just be like, yeah, nah, I'm good. And this is why I'm about to get ready to set the boundary. Plus, I feel like you probably just, you're showing your daughters like you don't want your daughters to need a man but to want a man. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.

Oh, I'm going to start with that. That wasn't what I'm going to start with. But I'll start with that because you said it. Like, you know, I definitely want my daughters to be strong independent women, right? but the thing about an independent woman is you're your independent woman because that's what you have to do but you still want a man that you can depend on so I want to teach my daughters that was some real shit yeah do you repeat that one more time you're an independent woman because that's what you have to do to take care of yourself to

survive but you still need a good man that you can depend on being an independent woman don't mean I don't you know that's some weird old to me right it means that I can hold it down and do what I got to do take care of myself be sufficient but when the right man comes along and finds me, as the Bible says, then that burden is lifted off of your shoulders, where you can then, you know, just dwell in your femininity and your softness. And obviously, if you need to, you know, step it up, cool. But like, I want my daughters to be self-sufficient, but then I want them to also know how to let a man lead if he knows how to lead. Most men don't

know how to lead. That's the real bag. That's the gift, right? Like, I would, that's what I've always thrived for is a woman that's got everything. And she's looking for a man like me. I have the qualities, no matter what those qualities may be. The next seven women don't have to like them, but she likes them and she loves them. You know, and she's able to take eat. And then when she really opened it up, like,

well, yeah, baby, you know, I'm sitting on this meal or two, you know, I really trust your guidance and what we got going on. My mama taught me right. You know what I'm saying? To only give it to a man that's worth willing giving it to. You know, and just not even just, because you have to think about it.

When it comes with marriage, when it comes with anything like that, we'll leave it just and even in relation. relationships, you, you're hybrid now. You guys have crossed. You know what I'm saying? So it's supposed to be, you know, a life for a life. You know, her money is his money, his money's her money.

You know, some people live by different. There's a lot of women that live by the, you know, his money is my money and my money is my money. Right. But I've noticed that a lot of women get mad also when a man stands on that same course. Yeah. Yeah, I would too. I would too. When do we break the barrier though?

You know, I feel like these gender roles have... Fuck the gender. When do we break that mold? Why? You know what? When does it come? Because you know what? I've always noticed that women want the respect, right?

You want the respect. You want to be looked at, not necessarily as an equal, but when you say something, you want two cents to be given to it, two fucks to be given to it when you speak on something. Right. You know, we got to play equality here in that. mixture yeah it's it's equal but it's not the same you want baby I'm saying this is what women do these days well you mean maybe you're speaking from

experience and I'm and there's a lot of that going on you are right but I've seen it with others and it seems like that's outweighing the actual woman that wants to come in and be it's not even submissive nobody fuck a yes daddy bitch of course she gets ran over right but submission is not surrendering okay it actually takes a powerful person to be submissive because you have to be confident enough in the other person's ability and power to be able to lead you. So for me, like, I'm attracted to power. I'm not, there's not a look. There's not a look. It's not a look. It's not a look. Right.

That's weird. Like, there's men that I think are attractive, but I'm not attracted to them. I like there's men that I don't think are physically attracted that I've been attracted to because of the way they carry themselves, their demeanor, the power they hold. I gravitate towards that because I'm a very powerful woman. And most men that don't possess power think, oh, she's controlling. No, honey, I need a man that knows how to lead. I need a man that I can trust because I've created an empire by myself. You know what I'm saying?

For myself, for my children. So. But it's no fun to do it by yourself. Exactly. You know, and I know. Exactly. Because I can lie my ass off and sit here to say even as myself as a man that I want to do it by myself.

I don't think anybody wants to do it about himself. I mean, maybe for a little bit when you're in your 20s and you just want to pop up. But as you get older, no, nobody wants to do that by themselves. No. Nobody young wants to do it by themselves.

That's why they have quote unquote friends. Everybody has friends. They just want to do it with a whole bunch of people. We learn, yeah. We learn as we get older, we don't have a bunch of friends. So you start to want to cling towards somebody that really has

fuck them liking you for just liking you, like me and have my best interest. Best interest is everything. I don't get a fuck about nothing else. Absolutely. Absolutely. But, you know, going back to the original thing that you mentioned about, like, what don't, what do I want to teach my daughters, you know, going back to it. And everybody believes in different things.

So it's not a universal thing. But, like, for me, for me, I was, I was raised to, you know, with what the Bible teaches. And that is that, you know, a woman is originally created to be a helper. And a man was created to be the protector, the provider. You okay? Yeah, I'm good. Okay. Okay.

So, like, protector and provider. Yeah, protect her and provider. You know, I've been seeing all these podcasts pop up. I feel like podcast equipment was on sale because a lot of motherfuckers just talking out the side of their face. And a lot of these conversations are about masculine and feminine, soft and strong and all these other different things. Can I ask you something? Yes. Don't mean to interrupt.

Please. How can a man. protect, provide when they don't, when women, a lot of women won't allow that. If you think about it, you know, some chicks go, and I'll say this just in a general, some chicks go to college to find a good career, find a good man, some chicks go to college

to get a good career to let you know that they don't need a man, you know, and I just feel like I don't know if that stems from the household, what your mama showed you, you know what you would have seen. Yeah. What you may have seen coming up, but I've seen a lot. And I'm not going to sit there and let that be the determining factor in how I treat somebody.

Even coming, if I was in a relationship and the relationship was shitty, I'm not going to bleed that onto the next. And I feel like a lot of people have that problem with bleeding their last shit on it. And when you ask them, like, why are you doing this to me? Let's just say we're the civilians in the situation. We're the suspects. We're the victims. Like, hey, why are you doing this? Oh, because, you know, my last situation,

you always notice that comes up in a mixture and now there's a problem. Okay, well, you have trust issues. Why are we even together? It makes no sense. You know, I feel like a lot of people do hop in relationships these days and truly, genuinely, you're not even healed from the last one.

Which is very true. You know, it's easy to say, like, why are you bringing baggage? Because it doesn't make sense. But if I get cut, I got a scar. And no matter what I do, I still got that scar. I can act like I can put sleeves on to cover it. I can put makeup on to cover it.

But when I take a shower, that scar is still there. So unless you deal with it with like scar treatment or cocoa butter or the silicone or whatever, it's always going to be there. People need therapy. It's still a lightness. It's still, you can get it down. You can barely even see it. You and your mind still know what happened. You know what happened.

We still know that there was still a scar there at one point. Exactly. You're going to think about it. Exactly. So people, especially black people, we need to be more comfortable with going to therapy. No, don't talk like that. They don't make it seem like we against our own people. And I hate that.

They're going to make it seem like anything when I say it. No, because I know that you're about to get on. It's a problem when I do it. I know you're about to get on some real shit, but I'm just saying that's what be wrong with our society. You're about to get ready to really pinpoint something that we really truly need to fix. But you already know everybody. going to be in denial. They're in denial about everything.

They're in denial about everything. You know, you're in denial until you die. And then, you know, that's usually whatever you was in denial about is probably one of the factors that killed you. What do you feel like we need to fix you were saying? Like you said, the scars from previous situations or relationships or even childhood. Like most people don't even know the trauma that they dealt with, it causes them to act a certain way because they've buried it for so many years.

Like you said, a lot of women that you've encountered have been on this, oh, I don't need a man type thing. And for me, like, that's not my mystery, but like sometimes maybe it is that they really don't think they need a man, or maybe is they're hoping that a man will fight for them and show them that they need it, or maybe their mama never had a man to depend on so they don't know what to do. So in a situation like that, you have pretty much three options. One, move on to a different woman and just don't entertain it. Don't even waste your time.

Two, try to figure out how to break those barriers down and try to figure out, okay, who hurt you, where'd that trauma come from, and try to heal that wound. or maybe she's just waiting for you to step up as a man so she feels comfortable enough to let her guard down. You know what I'm saying? Like, we eat fruit, right? You got an orange. An orange is juicy, it's delicious, it's sweet,

but there's a peel on the outside. You're not just going to bite into that orange. It's going to be bitter. It's going to be nasty. You got to take the time to peel the shit, right? Go on to something. I'm just saying. If you want the fruit on the inside,

if you want the sweetness and the softness of a woman, you got to go to that peel. You want to something. You got to be willing to, most niggas just coming. Ah, they want to bite. Yeah. Nigger, nigger. You got to fucking peel me, my nigga.

I'm a fucking orange. You got to peel me to get to the fruit. But what if I were, what if I were man, and I just want to get down to the meat, potatoes in the situation? I mean, that's bitty as for you. There's a tons of bitches that you get. I just want to get down to the meat, potatoes, and say, they get you a, get you a bitch that don't mind digging in some dirt.

Straight up. Hey, she's probably going to have a couple bullet wounds. Cesarian scars, you know, nothing. And nothing wrong with that, but she's going to have the tattoo around it, you know. And no shade, no shade. I'm just, you know. What if you do, though, you got a nigga that want to get there for real, like you got a nigga that wants to, because it just seems like you know a lot.

So I like to ask. I've been through a lot. Been through a lot. So like, what do you do if you got a man that wants to get down to the mean potatoes in a situation? He don't got time to play with you and court you the way you want to be courted, you know, or go through all the, you know, the dates and all the extra shit.

He's like, look, baby, I love you. I want to be with you. I ain't got time for all the extra right now. Just know I'm with you. I'm gonna rock with you and I'm gonna show you that I rock with you. But it's all in the show and prove. Yeah, well. It's all in the show, like.

What if you don't always got time to give you that extra reinsurance that you're looking for? There's ways to do it. There's ways to do it. What's a couple ways for you? Make sure the bills are pay. Make sure there's- You still go cheat and fuck other niggas with the bills paid.

Well, that's a dumb bitch. That's a dumb bitch. Well, there's a lot of them out here. So you can look in the camera and tell them. Which one? There's probably going to be about a million trillion that's going to watch this shit. At the end of the day, like, women don't naturally have that cheating. I don't know, we're not natural cheaters, okay?

For a woman to cheat, it has to be a couple things going on. She cheats from the heart. Kind of, kind of. Kind of. Niggas just cheat because they did hard. You're right, you're right. She's from the heart. Like, I know.

If they feel like something's lacking or something missing. Me and you together, right? Me and you together. You know, I'm moving, I'm grooving, I'm doing what I'm saying. We put ourselves in this fantasy mixture, okay? I'm doing what I'm doing. And you know, you know, I'm fucking some bitches, but you know it don't hit the same.

Like, I rock with you because I rock with you. But I know if you go and do something like that, I know that you're not just doing it. you're not just doing that. That's a part of your vessel, like that you doing that for a reason. You must have really like this, man. It might not really like the bitch.

I might not even be looking at. No qualities, no traits, right? I'm not looking at shit. But this bitch got a nice ass, and you know what I know any nigg in his right mind going to hit this. And if you got some action at the bitch, see, the only niggas that's going to say

that as niggins that don't ever get action out of bitches, it's hard to walk through a world, baby, knowing that you're supposed to cede the earth. Right? Seed the earth. And you'd be a handsome, attractive man. And you got a whole bunch of... And you don't even got to be handsome and more attractive though.

Listen to me. I'm just throwing myself just in the... I'm just using myself as an example just because I'm here. So fuck it. Why not? And you know, you got all these irresistible women. Not every man can handle that. That was very true.

And especially with the social media age, women will throw themselves at you. I have literally seen. You are bad, right? And what makes you bad is, is your personality. That's what makes you one off, right? But let's be real, me and you both know, there's a hundred of you out here. No, there's not. It looked like, I'm just saying that has them looks, baby.

And you're a lot of pretty bitches, but there's a lot of pretty bitches, though. There's a lot of pretty bitches, set yourself one off. But I'm just saying, like, men are attracted to, yeah, it's physical. It's physical first. Of course. A woman got to find it within a man spiritually. Yes. Well, no, there's a lot of women.

There's a lot of women that actually go for physical attributes, which is insane to me. a woman like I don't give a fuck what a nigga look like how you act how you behave what can you do like how because like they just start getting taught like niggas that's why they act like them you got think about it and you know what I'm a blame me guess for this mixture because you had to treat the bitch like one for to act like one to even started that's a part of it and other part is they didn't grow up with the damn daddy's half the aspect and that do have a lot to do with it too but it's an ongoing cycle she's not just she's at least nine times out of ten and I would hope she's

around her mama so she's learning but some of these mommas is worse somebody mommas is worse like I'm not gonna say names but like we see a lot of these celebrity girls with mommas that want to be them with mommas that come for their own children with mom with mom I'm not gonna name names I'm not gonna name name but it's a lot of as a lot of these mothers that you that want to be in the limelight and they want to take the you know I'm saying so like If you're gonna speak a lot of people weren't raised right. Who who you?

A lot of people aren't raised right. Oh, one or two in your mind. Who do you feel like that's, I ain't gonna name these mommas because I already know what's going to happen if I do it. I'm going to say that I, like for me, I appreciate my mother for being my mother. Like my mom would net like, sometimes my mom will see comments and be like, oh, I want to reply so bad, but you tell me to stay out of it. Because it's like, this is my career, my job, this is what I chose to. I chose to be in this public light. I didn't know everything that came.

with it, but that's my choice. My mama didn't choose it. My daughter didn't choose it. My sister didn't choose it. So if you jump in to try to defend me or anything and someone comes for you, I'm going to get your IP address and pull up and I'm being jailed. And what's going to happen? You know what I'm saying?

So, like, I appreciate the fact that my mom is my mama. That she don't try to jump on social media and try to get on the blogs. And that's, like, a lot of these girls weren't raised right. A lot of them didn't have their days around. And a mama's acting fucking crazy. And if you really think about it, like, where it comes from, like, black people, we have only had fucking 70 years to do

what white people have had centuries to do. You know what I'm saying? We've only been free since the damn fucking 50s. And the black men were taken out of the home as slaves to make sure they couldn't bond with their children. And the children were so,

so black men abandoning their families comes from slavery. Like I don't, I don't personally think that a man just gets up and say, a bad of my family. You don't even know where it comes from. It's just,

it was a, were sold off. We didn't even, we didn't have men in the home that wanted to be in the home. So it's a cycle that we have to break, but we can't break it if we don't know this is a cycle. So we're now having women that were raised by women that were hurt by men that don't have men and the men weren't in the home. And then men that were raised by women that didn't have men. So the men act like bitches and the bitches act like niggas. And then they come together and they're battling because the man wants this power and this respect. And then a woman wants to be taken care of. But now she's had to take care of herself. And he's been raised by nothing but

bitches in hair salons all this goddamn life so now we got soft men that want respect but they don't know how to get it and they think you get respect by respect me and not realizing you get respect by taking care of her by being just being a calm being that that that that male figure she never had what you said you got to be taught to be that though and and most of time we don't even know what the problem is you can't expect somebody to be that when that's not what that person was taught man or woman absolutely you know what I mean like to absolutely it's like shit they didn't be seeing this they mama's mama saw this like they've been

seeing it absolutely generations so i mean it's a fucked up cycle where does it where do you feel like it could be fixed at give us some give us some games i mean like like like literally it has to like i think a big problem is social media and a big problem are these reality shows and things like that where they glorify women acting like damn fools and men acting like they ain't got no common sense And it's like you walk into a scene on these reality shows. Hey, how you doing? What's your name? Boom, boom, boom, bam.

Ah, bitch, bitch, fuck you. Like, why are you inviting? Like, what happened? How did her name piss you off? Like, this is what's glorified, and this is what gets the views, and this is what gets the money. So now you already come from a fucked up situation, and now all you see every time you scroll is ignorance and more disrespect and more, and now, like I said, all these fucking

podcast popping up with these men that don't know a goddamn thing these women don't know shit and then half the time they're going back to a fucking one bedroom goddamn studio sharing a bed and a couch sharing shoes but they're talking about what the world should be like it's not is that a jab at anybody no that's a general that's a general that's not personal that's a general statement the greatest podcasts on earth right now one of the greatest podcasts in the motherfucking world, Maseka. That should be a soundbite. We will not do that one.

Not today. We will not do that today. You know where you at? The sharp tank. The sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the motherfucking world. I mean, I feel the-

You're here for a reason. So you should say other than Sharp Tank and no jumper, I feel like these podcasts push bullshit. Oh, you know that wasn't a jab. That wasn't a jab. That wasn't a jab. That was, I'm here because you're one of the few that's not on some bullshit. I don't be on no bullshit.

It's not no bullshit. And you know what? I feel like what you were talking about makes me want to bring up the situation with love and hip hop and you being in loving hip hop. And you know, you were just talking about like media and just reality TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, what was some of your experiences, you know, starting out with that? So, without getting into contractual things, you know, I was very very, you know, I was very,

really naive, extremely naive when I started loving hip-hop. Just wanted to get a bag. Period. Like anybody else, Missica. You didn't tell the shit like that is. I'm gonna tell you how I got on the show. So I did this show, this scripted series when I first moved to LA, and there was this guy on set that was a PA. His name was Ernest Dukes.

And it was James DeBoe was the producer of the show, and Ernest was his personal assistant. And he was just kind of like the underdog on the set. A lot of people, you know, they don't treat the P.A.'s nicely. He was cool with me. I was cool with him. I treated him nice. We exchanged numbers. One day I woke up two of my best friends who live, one lived in Miami, one lived here. They sent me an ad. I think it was boss up. I don't know which blog. Some blog posted love and hip-hop coming to LA. And they were both like, they were both like,

you got to get on the show. And I, my immediate thought was, I ain't get on that show. I'm going to do reality TV. That's where I would never do that. I would never do that. Five seconds later, I was like, do I want to be a working actor or acting like I'm working? I have just moved to LA. I'm like, I need a job. Hell yeah, I'm gonna get on that show. So I had saw that Ernest, after we wrapped on the TV show that we did, I saw that he became a publicist

and he was representing a couple different reality girls. So I hit him up and like I said, we kept in touch and we had a good rapport. And I was like, hey, do you know anybody they can put me? He was like, I got you. So he set me up with one of the EPs, like he told her about me and she was like, have her send me something salacious. And he was like, what text messages you got from like rappers or this or that or like, send me something?

I was like, I got you. I sent him a couple screenshots from three dudes that were like, it was like a, it was like a, they were kind of like talking about like why are you talking to him, why this. It was, I've never talked about this shit before. I sent screens. While we're here. I should send screenshots. Where are they? Lil Wayne, Justin Bieber, and Molly Mall.

And because of the nature of the conversations, they immediately caught me for an interview. And Mona had set up interviews. What hotel was it? Some hotel in Beverly Hills. And I was one of the last interviews of the day. She was so tired. Oh, Justin Bieber wanted to take a chocolate dip.

Justin. Hey, the Bees. We're not going to do that. Hey, Bees. We're cool. It's cool. But I'm just saying Bebs. I see you, church.

I see you, I see you. This was a thousand years ago, okay? I see you, Bees. This was back like 2012, okay? So what, Beebbs was still grown at that point. Bebs wasn't a little nigga. He's no way. Anyway, moving right along.

That's my nigga, but I know all his dreads was intact at that point. The dreads was fire. It was all intact at that point. That's my nigga. Listen, listen, this is back in yesterday. We have moved on, we've gotten married. We have done, you know, we now go.

So what? You still did this shit. That was back. That was back. You still did it. You still? Anyway, anyway, well, I brought up to explain what happened. Right.

I've never, I've never talked. You're not proud of you? I'm not unproud. This is part of my, it's part of history. I know I'm hitting. It's not like, I don't have a feeling towards it. It's just like, it's like going, you know, getting directions to the final destination.

This is the road I traveled to get here. You know, I don't have a feeling about passing that stop sign. It's a stop sign I'm motherfucking bad. Okay. So you sent all these messages. So I sent them and they set up an interview immediately with Mona. And I met with her towards the end of the day. of the day she was like not paying me no attention i was talking to her she was like looking away

looking down she asked me a couple questions and she was like i'm fucking tired i've been doing interviews all day okay that's all i have and walked off and i was like like she didn't even spend five minutes with me and i walked out of that i'm like fuck she didn't like me the next day i got a contract i got an offer so whatever it was she was like you're fucking crazy and honestly i think that's what they like but like for me i thought i foolishly thought the show called love and hip-hop i thought i was really going to get my music career prop. And I really thought they were going to promote my music. I really thought that it was going to follow my life, my friend.

I'm honestly glad that it didn't now that I know what I know. But I didn't realize that everything was going to be produced, controlled, contrived. Like, I didn't know. Like, I thought that I was going to get a camera crew and there was going to follow me around. And like, you know, that's what I foolishly thought. I didn't realize I was going to get a call time and a general idea of how to dress for what I might be doing. and then when I get there, they pick me up and take me

so I can't leave on my own recognizance and then they take my phone from me so that once they tell me what I'm doing, I can't text nobody and say, girl, we got to talk about this. You know what I'm saying? So people always ask, like, is it real? Is it real?

Like, it's like, you know when you're in school and you had to write a paper and before the paper you wrote an outline. And then you write a paper from the outline. They write the outline and you write the paper. So it's like, technically like I'm saying, I'm choosing what I want to say based off what they're forcing me to talk about.

should be doing yeah they tell me the topics yeah okay today you're gonna talk you're gonna meet with this person some type of action to that so so you feel like so they give you what you have to do and then you choose how you have to do it but it's like at the drop of a dime like literally i pull up they tell you that you go and bam and it's like you got to focus okay he's here's my i got to hit these five beats with this perfect strange i don't fucking know and then let's say me and you are filming together for the first time and you don't know shit about me i don't know shit about you. We didn't even know that we were filming together to have a chance to even Google each other. You know what I'm saying? So they tell me, Maseka, ask Sharp about, tell

Sharp you ran to Melissa and she's so sweet. Now, I have no idea that Melissa's your wife that you're going through a divorce with and she fucked your brother or some shit. So I'm like, oh my God, I just was with Melissa and her boyfriend, not knowing that, you know, you got, like, you know what I'm saying? So now you're like, this bitch talking about my ex-wife with another nigga? But I don't know. I don't fucking know that, you know what I'm saying? So now you got a split second decision to try to figure out how to react. Like, and it's so fast that you can't figure out, did they tell her to say this? Or now you're just mad. So we get the whole scene, whatever, whatever the case may be. We don't know each other, we don't have phone numbers. Now they have you go film

with two bitches that hate me. And then they're like, oh, that mistake. And you're like, yeah, she was messy. She did say this. She did say that. So then three weeks go by, we ain't film with each other, but they had me film with your enemies. They had you film with my enemies. Now we come back together. I don't know. You don't know. but now we hate each other. Because now we have five scenes with people that are talking all types of shit. So now you think I really meant it.

I don't even know who was like. Do you feel like that's what you and Johnny Blaze low-key went through? Oh, no. That was different. I'm just saying, like, is the way you kind of explain their narrative. So that was a different show. That was a different show. Granted, but I'm just saying it still has the same type of ground base.

It was completely different. Now, I'm going to tell you why it's completely different. And I can say this because I don't have an NDA with growing up hip hop. I'm about to tell you. but it didn't matter. It was still painting the same narrative. It looked the same. It looked the same.

It's still painted the same narrative. Right. So with love and hip hop, you didn't know what you were getting yourself into. With growing up hip hop, you knew what you were getting yourself into. They still find ways in edits to manipulate the shit. But like, me and Johnny did that together. And we were in cahoots.

Like, we were actually laughing so hard in that fucking scene where we were pretending to fight. They had to kept making takes. Like, they asked us to do it. Like, we was like, we was like, it probably took an hour to get through that little argument. just because we was, we kept laughing. I mean, fake fighting on the shit.

So that's completely different. Love and Hip Hop, that never happened. Like, loving hip hop, it was all, like, just shit that. So growing up hip hop, like, when they cast me for that, I lived in L.A., they had me come out to Atlanta to do that. So, like, basically, every scene I shot, like, it had to be, like, planned and put together. Like, they had to ask us if we would do it. We spoke on the phone to each other.

We went to eat afterwards. Like, so that's a completely different. Like, we was just doing what we had to do. That was some funny shit, honestly. We had fun that day. And Johnny's my girl, I fuck with Johnny. Like I, like, you and Johnny never had any meat.

Y'all really had a... That's those were good actors! I mean, but doesn't that take away from... Like, I mean, because everybody knows like reality TV has some type of false narrative somewhere throughout the mixture because it's still going to make this a sweet mix,

you know? But to find out like that it's just all bullshit and just all drag like I mean I would say I would say who would want to watch that but everybody everybody's gonna want to watch we're all actors the beauty of it is that they don't they don't think it's acting I love to hear some I love to bring somebody here that can like pour that out on the table real fucking Johnny blaze yeah we have fun that day we really did she's the talented dope-ass singer dope-ass artist she's a dope-ass person I mean you were telling her like you don't buy her she had a fake bag he was he was really on her y'all was really talking we did

And honestly, like, like... She was talking about, and I think the narrative, if I quote, like, I think it was something along the lines of her fucking with your baby daddy. That's what they tried to make it. And you tried to come talk to her about that, like, and confront her. Because I was like this, when I wanted to talk to you about, I'm like, man, that shit looked weird. And I was like, if that is the motherfucking case, I'm like, ain't you supposed to be the queen B? You never sit there and go bow down and go lower to go talk to anybody about that.

If anything, you should be talking to your man. But now I get to go. Crazy part about that. Here's the craziest part about that. I wouldn't know I wouldn't agree to that narrative, right? Mad at you. Here's a thing. It's a crazy part. This shit blew my fucking mind. This shit blew my fucking mind. Okay. Now, you know because you're in production. So you know what room tone is, right? So for those of you that don't know, whenever you're filming any TV show, reality show, whatever the case may be, there's something called room tone. At the end of whatever the film day is, they call room tone. Everybody has to shut the fuck up and they just record the background sound. from the room. Okay, they record the background sound with everything that's in the room. Now, I didn't know this is not when a growing up hip hop. These motherfuckers will put a sentence in your mouth that you never said by using fucking

room tone. They will take one word you said on 15 different days and piece it together as a sentence and throw the room tone behind it. So it kind of blends out and they'll show me talking to you. They'll show my POV. Then they'll turn it to your POV and they'll put a sentence out of my mouth that I never said your POV. Now, it might be, like I said, 10 different days where I'd be like, I went to this, this, this, blah, blah, because it's not the same voice, but that room tone makes it all sound

cohesive. Right. So they had me saying shit out my mouth that I never said. Like, they kept, I've never called my child's father by his, by his rap name, unless like, it's just some, talking to somebody, whatever. But I call him by his first name. So they kept, like, they were asking, like, about, like, what was the problem with him working with, with, with, just. Johnny and they just didn't get they couldn't I'm like I'm not about to I'm not about to do this dumb ass shit like I don't give a fuck that he did a song with with her so they would say something that I would call Willie they'd be like say Fettywop I'm like I don't call this nigga Fettywop they would take that sound bite of me saying Fettywop and like puts that in a sentence

Fettywap did a song with Johnny and it would be like 10 days 10 different fucking days and though that fucking room tone behind it so you really think and I've never seen anything like that. And Laura Govon wore me about that shit, but I didn't understand what she meant. Are you a robot? Apparently I was. Are you wearing a mask here today?

Like, are you like- I was on that show, apparently. Are you really the real Maseka? Like, do we- The only one baby. Laura Govon wore me about that one day. She was like, Maseka, don't ever take a breath when you speak a sentence.

And I was like, huh? But like, she couldn't really elaborate. We were at a club. It was super loud. She couldn't really elaborate on what she meant. And then when I went on that show, I was like, that's what the fuck She meant if you take a breath enough to where they can pull a word out,

they will make you say some shit you would never say. And I've never seen that before. That was a different type of wicked. Love and hip-hop didn't even do that shit. So growing up hip-hop, y'all are some motherfuckers for that. Yeah, no, it's a motherfucker. It's probably going to get worse with the AI shit now. Oh, it's terrifying.

Yeah, now it's on a whole not level. Terrifying. Yeah, it's on a whole not level. Speaking of AI. Now only you say shit, but they just need your voice. Speaking of AI, AI is threatening so many. job which is why we have the actor strike and the writer strike right now one of the main reasons but you know me as a stock market guru you know I picked some some

stocks on my let's give us a tip okay so I picked Nvidia which which two years ago and I picked it because of the global chip shortage that was going on with all these cars and things like that because of COVID there was a global chip shortage I didn't know anything about AI but it just so happens that you know I put in my stock club stock market tip from bad bitch.com that you know invested in So I put about 10 grand in VINVVII. The chips that go into the cars. Not just cars, but like, they have them chips and they had a shortage on chips for the cars.

Yes, yeah. It was hard to sell a car because they needed some type of chip for them. I bought a 2021 S580 in 2021. Most beautiful piece of shit I've ever purchased because it's, it's missing everything. They put it out in a rush because of COVID and there's a malfunction that pops of every guy. It's a $150,000 piece of shit. That's just crazy. It's a piece of shit.

And I just want to. crash it off a bridge. There's a malfunction every goddamn day on this freaking car. But regardless, because of AI now, Nvidia is one of the leaders in AI, my $10,000 worth of shares is now $50,000 because of that. So AI is on some bullshit. And like you said, they're probably going to be manipulating so many different things now to where, like, they can make you say and do anything. We're getting, we're getting money in it, let's see, right? Like, we would be getting money in all this, like the AI should, but like where is this really going to lead us? Destruction.

Like what, what rabbit all like or what, what path are we going down? It's unnatural. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, people like the money from it now because, yeah, it's easy to make money now from the click of a button. What's this really doing? Like, where is this sending us? I mean, when you think about all this virtual reality stuff.

It all has a purpose. None of it's done accidentally or eureka without something. If you think about the reality, the world we live in, it's almost like, like we're masticistic it's like people are like you're trying to fucking kill yourself out like like all these agendas and you know like it's it's it's crazy it's like we're we are creating a universe that we literally can't procreate or produce in police been doing dirty but now they come out with all these videos and all this shit of how people you know are uncontrollable right before we know it what they're going to do is it's all going to be robotic them of them

is it soulless it's heartless what if they malfunctioned and just shoot an innocent person because it was took and wrong like they're trying to move everybody out of everything you're going grocery stores there's no tellers in a lot of that shit no more you know um hopefuls they got this thing now where you scan your wrist you just you just scan your wrist and you walk out i didn't know that now i don't know what it is they say it's like i don't know what it's not a chip i don't even i wouldn't even but it's something where you just like wave your hand and you just you get your groceries you wave your hand walk out the door well let's get off the theories and I got to ask you how long how long have you been an artist so um I started I wrote my first song

when I was nine years old and it was a very dark song it was a rap song it was very dark um why was it very dark because I grew up in no I'm just saying it was rap because I think I think so I'm only differentiating that it was a rap song because that was my first song I'm a singer and I remember the the the record because I grew up in Chicago. I still remember. What side of Chicago you grew up on? Stop saying.

What you mean? Southside Wild Hunters? Close to it. Close to it. Seventy-eighth, Ellis. Close by Stony Island. Shout to the, man. Shout to the Wild Hunters, man.

If y'all are watching this, man, I know y'all over there still moving and grooving. Period. You know, Honey, Roe. Still having your way, but continue. So, it was, music was always just something that I wrote about or, like, sang about or rapped about to talk about, like, the life experiences that I had.

But believe it or not, I used to be shy. I don't believe it. So I didn't like to perform in front of people. What do you know? Maseka, shy. Could you believe it? Never. Never.

Could you believe it? So it wasn't until like I was a teenager that I started getting like confidence and stuff like that to like perform and like battle and all these things. He's always a pretty or was you like a little ugly duckling at one more time? I was always pretty but I didn't know I was pretty until I was 12. And I didn't know I was pretty until I was 12 because I'm going to school with white people. So I wasn't white people's pretty. I grew up in an all black neighborhood. I went to school in an all-Mexican neighborhood.

neighborhood with all rich white kids. My parents shipped us outside of the city to go to private school with white people because they didn't want us in the gangs. But they didn't know because my parents grew up in that. They didn't know that the alternative were all the white kids on drugs, bringing knives to school and wanted to commit suicide and jumping out the fucking windows. So I had three extremes in every single day. The black kids I grew up with, the Mexican kids that were in the neighborhood where I went to school with and then the white kids that were at school with me. And that was my biggest experience because I was with them all day long. So there was times where I was the only black person in my class.

They would ask me are you an African booty scratcher? They would like to throw pants. I don't remember that shit There was this there was this white girl. Her name was Laura Ducek and Kelly Keri I forget Carrie's last name that was good right there. That was a good they threw they threw a pencil on my hair one day to see if it's stick And I remember I was in like third or fourth grade and I turned around and they were like laughing see it sticks or something like that And I don't remember what I said to them but I said something about their greasy oily oily hair full of life and something like the little girl started crying and went through the principal and tried to tell on me and like they called my mama and they tried to suspend me from school you told the truth life was big back there was huge it was huge you worried you worried about this texture in my

hair bitch but you got life bitch because mama just was moving life it was it was there's little white girls were going on here about it too much these days right but back them dirty bitches eating them baloney sandwiches full of miracle whip that just looking miracle nasty nasty white girls that's what that's my memory I used to put a little bit of light mail no no no no it was a man-it-it-it-it-it-was-it was a man-o Miracle Whip sandwich. It was just miracle with. A little bit of miracle whip. A little bit is different. I'm about to have a mayo sandwich. You ain't ever had that one?

I hated it. It's just because you hated it. I hated it. Don't try to throw that on it for the America Whip. The one piece of bologna with 10 pounds of Miracle Whip on the white bread. I never knew it was salad dressing. I always thought it was mayo until I had real mayo. You know what I'm like, oh, I like this shit too. I like this shit too, man. Shit, man. Not having nothing. Man, hey, then we had to have ketchup and baloney sandwiches before this is true but like that but that wasn't that wasn't like out of desire that was not I ain't want that shit but I'd

exactly that I was hungry right right so you know this this is this is how I grew up I grew up with all these different you know different dynamics and stuff like that like like they they thought it was that the blackest thing you know I'm saying so growing up with with a little light baby oh don't don't tell them that you got a light bright don't tell them that you you got some bright They thought I was that kind. No, you got some, no, I'm talking about that's, that, that's, I went to school with so, with these white kids.

Yeah, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Up until fifth grade. Then I went to school with black kids and it was just like a, a huge culture shock, like a huge difference, you know what I'm saying? When you went to East Side High one day and saw how it really was. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I get it. Yeah. You just try to join the Clovers? What is that? Cheerleading. I wanted to be cheerleader. My mom didn't let me. I did drill team, step team, and dance team, ballet.

My mom wanna let me be a cheerleader. I wanted to know. Yeah. Yeah, my mom was like, you ain't be a cheerleader with a white girl. You want to be a cheerleader with them, white girls. I really didn't. Yeah, why not? They were just, they were just, they were just,

nasty. No, they was just nasty girls. They was just like mean girls. And like the only reason they didn't like me because I was black. So basically, like, I didn't know that I was pretty until I went to summer camp with black people. And the little 12, 13-year-old boys was like, 12, 13-year-old boys was like,

ooh, I didn't know it was pretty because I wasn't the white people's pretty. You all right, Missica, like. Don't do that. You was out there, man. Hey, you was cool. I told you. I said, all right, you was cool.

You look better than your baby pictures. All right? I'm in agreeance. You look better than your baby pictures. But I ain't going to let you just keep putting some stank where that. You just asked me a question. You asked me that I always know how it was pretty. I didn't know until I got around black people.

So it wasn't until I was like 12. I was like, oh, I'm that bitch. Oh, I'm really, I'm really a cold piece of work. You ain't never had one of the white boys shot of varsity just blues you, like, you know, varsity team white boys. Some of the white boys have crushes on me and stuff, but like, I'm a kid. Like, I didn't really even get what that was. Like, I was like, this is a little white boy in my face.

Like, you know, I didn't even really get it until I got older. So, like, yeah, of course, I, it, but even then it would be like a wild card. because even the little white boys that liked me, their parents were prejudiced. So, like, they weren't even really allowed to, you know what I mean? So it was allowed to like you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so when I got to sixth grade

and went to a black school, that's when everything kind of changed for me. Yeah, I was like, oh. So you've been doing music even through all that. So I wasn't doing it, but like I was sing and do talent shows and stuff like that. Then I started battle rapping. I was really good.

I was sucked now. I would never do that. Yeah, I used to be really fun. fucking good. I used to battle rap grown in from 14 to 17. But like I was going through a lot of my life. Like, and that was my release. That was my release. Once I, you know, moved out and was, you know, doing things on my own. I didn't, I didn't have that anger anymore. I didn't need to do that release anymore. So I stopped doing it. And I lost the passion and the desire for it. So I wouldn't do it again. But like I do cute raps and stuff like that now. But, um, so I joined the pop group. Describe a cute rap. Like City Girl rap. Like, you know, like first class bitch. I need. first-class shit money on my mind only rich bitch shit he settled for that because he can't get with this but that nigga know who but you know like cute like that's a that's a hook on one of my songs like like cutesy shit like we talking about

shopping we talk about taking flight like really live like that you're with getting you're getting busted down after he buy you the flight are you really living like that I'm just asking it I didn't say that the music I didn't say that that's not what I said I feel like That's not what I said. No, no, that's not what I said, though. But the next line was coming like that. That's not what I said.

It ain't that why he do what he do? It's not just the flight. Like, oh, he bought me a flight. No, it has to be the whole experience and I have to actually like you. Like, like, because you like, back when I was, back when I was, okay, back when I was back when I was, when I was getting flued out, if I get,

if I get flued out and touch down and you an asshole, my niggas, it's not. You never made no mistake. fly out, let the nigger bust you down, and he couldn't even buy you no applebees. You ain't never. Never. I heard that gulp. You never.

Never. Never. Never flew out one time. Never. I don't get fucking me. You had to catch the greyhound. Hell, drive yourself a hundred miles. No, no, no. I've flown out. I've flown out and, and had a couple fuck-ups. I know, but I've flown out, and a nigga wasn't all that he claimed to be.

Yeah. And I ended up having to, like, excuse myself. from the situation that's happened before when I was like 21 22 maybe yeah but like it wasn't no I flew out he did had his way and I'm like oh this niggas a buster no oh nigger you a buster I'm out but I always had like we always do that how you gonna tell me you know I'm trying I want to learn it not I know there's got to be I've been in some situations honestly but like I've been in situations I've been into some situations because because so maybe I was so foolish thinking I'm doing whatever the fuck I want to do

you fly me out and you nigger you ain't about to touch me and I had niggins was like bitch fuck you and I had to like figure out my own way home I've had that happen back when I was young and stupid and careless and wild you know what I'm saying which is why now like I don't I think it's a bad idea for for for young girls or women to do things like that but then again like for me I have very young parents my parents did the best that they could my parents got married 18 and 21 okay so they came from the inner city my mom from the west side of Chicago my father from south side of Chicago they have shit they ain't have shit they didn't

the best they could they gave us the euphoric view of how life is supposed to be and didn't really tell us what you really do when life goes this way because they lived a hard life so they tried to protect us from it and I can totally understand that but the end of the day like my parents taught us you don't have sex before you marry you live with your parents you meet your your sweetheart then you get married you get a great job and you have great careers you have kids they never taught us well if you do have sex before maybe this is how you protect yourself well if if if if you have to move out this how you pay bills you know so I didn't I didn't know do all that do what you do what you just

explained does you ever do any any of that like just in that order no you mean like the euphoric view of how just no no no who does who does but you know who does a lot of people are clinton you know who does people who's like a lot of Jewish families and Indian families and white families and Asian families where the kids do live at home until they're ready to go off and get married and they're able to have 401ks and Roth RRAs and by the time they get married they already got $250,000 in the bank and their parents got them life insurance policies from childhood. So now they have a million dollar policy, the irrevocable trust that they can they can

fucking borrow against without having to pay interest or pay back. You know what I'm saying? Did you get kicked out or did you leave? I got kicked out. You got kicked out? I got kicked out when I was 18. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So, like, I literally went walking down the street with nothing. I had nothing in my pockets, nothing. And I had to ask a neighbor if I could use her phone to call somebody to pick me up. And I never went back after that. I had nothing. I didn't have underwear. I didn't have toothbrush, toothpaste, toothache, toothache, toothache, and I have a bobby pen. I didn't have a pointer.

Did you take a shower that day? When I got to my destination, yeah. But, like, so. The guy was dead at that time. I called him to pick me up. He lived with his parents. And he had four siblings. It was five of them.

His parents let me stay in their basement with his parents and his siblings. I stayed in the basement for three months. Went and got two, three jobs, got a car, got an apartment, and kept moving. I had to borrow clothes from one of my home girls who was like 30 pounds heavier than me. I literally had nothing. and I think that my parents thought they were teaching me a lesson. I think that they thought like, we're going to put her out. She's going to come crawling back.

Nah, nah, but the crazy thing is like, I didn't know shit about the real world. Nothing. You know, so I had to figure everything out the hard way. Like, I was so vulnerable. It's like I was a sheep in a world and nothing but wolves. And I had to, I had to like quickly figure out how to protect myself. And that goes back to one of the first questions you asked me about what I don't ever want my daughters to experience. You know, definitely I want to tell my daughter's the right way to do things and the way that I hope they do things.

But I'm also going to let them know how the real world really fucking is. Like, yeah, I would love for you to stay home with mommy and daddy and go to college and get a good job or a career, whatever it is, invest or whatever, real estate stock, whatever it is until you find or your prince charming finds you. But if that doesn't happen, this is how you protect yourself. This is how you prepare yourself. You know, so I want to make sure that my daughters have that. I started my company for my daughter, Carrie Barbie Beauty, and my daughter's name is Carri Barbie. I started that when I was pregnant because I wanted her to always have something. You know, I've added products for my other daughter now because I want her to always have something.

You know, my children, my niece, my guide kids, they all have investment portfolios that I invest in every single week. I have an automatic transfer. Every time I swipe my card, this one gets $100. Every time I swipe this card, this one gets $25. every time I swipe this card this one automatically set up so by the time they're 18 they have a hundred thousand dollars plus something something for you know exactly you know they have their five to nine they probably was going to have exactly exactly I never want my child boy girl either way especially daughter so to ever be walking

down a street like I was with lint in a pocket trying to figure out how to survive never want that to happen You know, so that is everything that I'm doing it for right now. And, you know, I started music really young, and I stopped a bunch of times because I didn't have money. I didn't have what I need to have. So, again, I was vulnerable. I was signed to Block Entertainment back when he had Gorilla Zoh and Jody Breeze and Boys in the Hood and Young Jock and, you know, all of these people. And Tamika, who now is with QC, was the boss over there.

you know back in the day and you know block signed me off of one unmixed record and some pictures and you know I would be in the studio he would come up behind me trying to massage my shoulder you doing a good job and you know all this weird old ass shit and I realized like until like as long as someone else is paying for my studio as long as someone else is paying for my music video they're going to try to have that way with me and I wasn't willing to give my integrity for the possibility of maybe having a career so like i i put my dreams on hold and i went to work i didn't want to really fully pursue it until i was able to pay for it so i can tell him i can fuck you go go fuck yourself i got i got the same bag that you got or i got enough and it's not from a prideful place or a haughty place it's from

a place of survival it's from a place of protection and i feel like people get that so misconstrued because i've been in those situations with these men that wanted to help me but all they want to do was help themselves and it's like you got to figure out hmm are you going to discard me or are going to help me who wants to live like that you know so yeah I could have been the 20 year old pop artist probably if I you know compromise or whatever but that wasn't the path for me so you know like I feel like I've taken a lot of breaks on this music journey I didn't want to pursue music until I could afford to do it my way so now when I go to studio I pay for my studio sessions I pay from on mixing mastering I pay from on this pay from my own that

And I'm just now at that place where I'm I'm ready to put out my EP. I'm ready to put out my singles. I'm ready to do all this because, you know, I'm now in the right situation where I'm the boss of my own situation. Nobody is holding puppet strings, you know, above my head where if I don't do what they want me to do, they can fuck me up or fuck me over. I got to know. I really want to know if are you willing to do any other type of reality?

shows and I have one that comes to mind, you know, just with even like Natalie none of them, like would you ever be willing to like go on you know baddies or something? Hell no. What if that? Hell no. You would never step over to that type of realm.

Anyway, um um, um, you never step over to that to that realm. I mean, Ariel, would you even do your own shit? So,

the only current show in syndication that I would have any desire to do as housewives. That's the only reality show that... Don't you got to be a housewife to, like, really do that? Or with somebody that they know? I am a housewife. But with somebody that they know? They know me.

Who gives a fuck about the husband? No disrespect to the husband. Right, but I think that they do. But they don't, because half the housewives don't even marry. But they make sure that it looks like that, right? Marlowe was never married. No shade to Marlowe. I love Marlowe.

Sheree's divorced. Portia was divorced. Like, Nidi got divorced on the show. Kim had a Sugar Day that never came on camera. Like, the title is Housewives. And this is no shade, because these women paved the fucking way. These weren't the reason why I would do these show. So this is not a jam.

Most of Housewives ain't never been Housewives. I'm currently a housewife. Like, that's not all I am. But like, so honestly, if you think, if you think about it with these show, Housewives say I would love to stay home well I thought that was the true definition the meaning of the show it's it's a remix definition because none of them are actually none of the none of the women are truly well some of them maybe but most of those women are truly aren't the definition of housewives that's just the

title of the fucking show so I don't like and if you think about the show's about those women that's false advertisement who said it's false it's a remix definition I mean if you if you want to get down to the meat and potatoes then sure but who cares Hey, Donnie, a show called Housewives and has no real housewives on it. Don't you feel like that's false advertisement? There's no way that you're, there's no way that today. When you consider that false advertisement, it's like I'm watching a show that's called housewives.

How many years have this show been on, right? It has no housewives on. How many years has this show been in syndication, at least a decade, right? At least a decade. They have multiple franchises. There's no way you were today years old sitting across from me that you just realized that 90% of them are housewives. There's no way that today you realize that. I don't feel like you sell a false narrative.

I mean, yes, you have to have some acting. I'm not on the show. How I'm selling it? It's where you would. I'm saying I don't feel like you would, but you did kind of tell me earlier like it's a good actress. I'm a sell whatever you're gonna buy. It's just fucked up.

I'm gonna sell water to a well. I'll sell a fucking polar bear ice. I just feel like it's fucked up because it's like it ruins the shows. How does it ruin the show when they're the number one show's trending? Because it's all false narratives. And everybody loves it. people love fake shit it's it was called reality for a reason it was it was that's how I fucked up because I thought it was gonna be real shit that's how I

fucked up when I realized that the only thing real about it is they really trying to fuck you over the once you realize the game you can master it these shows work because people love bullshit so I left to be locked you if you know this why wouldn't you go on something like baddies. I mean, shit. It don't even matter. Because I'm not about to be subjected to walking in a scene where bitches like, my justice is to fight. I'm a pretty bitch. I want to break a goddamn nail. And that and on some like at the end of the day, like I get crazy. Like don't don't don't, bitch, don't touch me. I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. But if I have

to like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, but like, that's not me. Like, I'm a pretty, I'm a pretty girl. Like, like, and they might. But at the end of the day, these bidschies are trying to figure out how to get camera time. And if they know I'm going to get camera time if I just start, what if you are the version that Tommy should have been coming in the house? I don't care. You know?

I don't care. Like, I have daughters. I have daughters. So you have a better understanding to what really be going on in a lot of these young women. I don't have time to sit on camera and talk to unfothered bitches about why they acting like niggas. I don't have time for that. Because on camera, you got a certain amount of time to do what you.

You know what I'm saying? Off camera, off camera, it might make sense. But I know you got this period of time trying to get as much camera time as you can try to get. You brought it out. It was in you. I'm just saying. I don't have time. I don't have time. I got a daddy.

I got a mother. My parents married for 43 years. You know what I'm saying? And regardless of like whether I didn't agree with everything they did, they did everything they could. You know what I'm saying? Like my father didn't let me open doors. My father didn't let me take out trash. My father made sure, like, I always walked on the inside of the street.

Other women that did have daddies to show them. And again, that's not my, and my ministry is not to do that on these type of shows. And I get that. But it seems like it's much needed. It is, which is why I've created my own show. And not even, and I'll get to that, but, like, it's not even to pinpoint nothing on baddies or nobody, but just, like, it's gotten like that on a lot of these shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and it seems like in some department.

it's needed because it does create a true balance what's needed just that balance of somebody being like it's like you said there's a lot of you feel like a lot of fatherless bitches as I quote right yeah so and again that is not an insult to the women because it wasn't your choice a little bit no no no it wasn't your choice your product of your environment like who can fault someone from not having a daddy did you make the niggile no but that's not your fault but you don't even right right so some chicks that have had that. Right.

So they can see. Right. A person only can do what they learn. Exactly. They don't just think it by themselves. Exactly. It's not a light bulb that goes off. They got to see.

When you go to school, you go there to learn, right? When you go to concert, you don't go there to learn. So I'm not going to go on a show that's made for fighting to try to educate a bitch. She's not there to learn. And there's no capacity for me to be at a concert that's loud. So the square root of pie is 4.3. You're there to have a rave. You're there to scream.

You're there to. So I'm not about to walk up into a fucking shit show and a boxing ring talking about, okay, let's talk about your daddy issues. Look, but that's why there's only. You're there to fight. But see, but that's why I always notice that there's only a couple, maybe one to none that only passed through that door of superstar movements because of that kind of situation. The Cardi Bs, the DREA's, the Needy Leaks.

There's only a couple that passed through. There's not a lot that comes to the door. It's because everybody got that same type of mentality of like, I'm not there to teach none of these bitches. I don't give a fuck. Even if I do know the knowledge, even if I do got the keys, I'm not here to teach this bitch because I'm going to treat this shit like a house. I'm here to get what I got to get.

That's not cool. It is cool. It is very cool. It is very cool because guess what you won't do? You're not going to kill yourself trying to say somebody that wants to drown. No. But you know what? If you can help and you see you can say something,

words to say words cost nothing. So maybe a bit of energy, but shit, we spend energy towards bullshit. Back in your previous life, did you tell these bitches that they're throwing away their lives? Throw away who's lives? Back in your previous life. Okay. Your previous career. Did you tell these bitches that you was hoeing out, baby, don't sell your pussy?

Is that throwing their eyes away? You should have. You should have. You should have said, baby, you have more value. Don't sell your kushi and bring me your money. But you did it. Because it was. because they weren't there to learn.

They were there to turn tricks and make money. So why the fuck should I be better than you? Hey, comment, hey, comment. I'm going to tell you this, baby. See, me being in the game and how I moved, sweetie. They gave it to me. I never had to go sit there and do any of that. I got to sit there and do it.

I'm just telling you, baby, you don't have to do anything. Exactly. But if it's a certain type of knowledge, I'm going to still give the bitch to knowledge. If that's what she's already doing. But you're still going to say, bitch, rumming my money. That don't got nothing to do with bread. It does.

That's common sense. that you're giving people. It do. That's common sense that you're giving people. Again, I'm not going to go in the lying then. I'm not going to lie in the day. That's not nothing of higher learning that you're giving them like, hey, you got to pay a fee to get this part.

I ain't a school teacher. That's fucking basic knowledge. I'm a school teacher. We should pass that around the people. And I pass it around on a different platform. I do. But that's why we're retarded is because we're not willing to share that or process that with each. I share it all day every day.

That's the problem. I share it all day every day. I'm not going to go on a show for fighting the show. I don't give a fuck where you go. You should always be willing to spread knowledge. That's ridiculous. I don't give a fuck where you go and that's where we fuck up. That's ridiculous.

That's where we fuck up. That's where we don't do that. That's where we go. I always do. Even if they come off aggressive, I'm always trying to give some game. Whether they reciprocated in the way that they're supposed to, you can pick and choose what doors you go through.

I'm not going somewhere. I don't feel welcome to try to be welcome. It's not about that. It's not about that. Why the fuck do I need to go on baddies to educate some bitches that want to fight. Why the fuck? Do I need to do that?

That's retarded. You don't have to, but you're just coming in there, that's blessings. Doing that type of shit is still being a blessing. I am a blessing. And when I realized that my no was stronger than my yes, I became more powerful. So fuck no. I ain't doing no damn shit that's beneath me to try to educate some people that don't want to fucking learn.

Because that's a waste of my time of energy. When I have children to educate. And on my platform, that's not for fighting. That's where I do it at. I'm not about to go in the boxing ring and try to Because in your world, baby, vegan food. That's retarded. Everybody's beneath you.

That's why. And I get where y'all mixture is. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not saying, I'm not saying anybody's beneath me. I'm saying I'm not going into the lion's den dressed in meat and thinking that someone's going to listen to me. All they want to do. Nobody said that. That's a lion's done.

I'm not going in covered in fucking meat and tell people, wait, wait, wait, lions. Lions, wait, wait, listen to me. I don't want to know more than them bitches. You sound crazy. No, I do know more. You want to take a sideways steamy shit. Yep. You want to sit there and know, I went on that show, I would.

I got the whole loaf of bread. If I went on that show, that is what I would want to do. My bitches on that show be taking bitch and you're mad. You're not, I'm not letting you try and get me out of my point. I'm not mad. You are. No. You're aggressive.

Baby, I'm not. There's absolutely no reason in heaven hell or earth. I'm just asking you. There's no reason to heaven hell or earth for me to go do some dumb ass shit to try to I would be a dumb bitch. I'd be a dumb bitch walking into a a fucking boxing match trying to get everybody to sing him.

Is this the real you right here? That's stupid. That's dumb as fuck. That's why I left loving hip-hop. Because at the end of the day, I have daughters that are going to be looking at me. You don't get just as crazy as them bitches. That's why I said, I feel like it's a perfect fit.

Well, you know what? If you feel like that, then you go fucking get some of them bitches that's used to pimp and you go put them on here. What's that's doing anything? Because you're talking like you, father Teresa. This is what, listen, this is what you're into now. And I'm not going to take what you say to you.

Who's going to do it? That's a personal jab. I'm just talking to you about what you've already been into. You're into reality TV. No, baby. You said this is what I'm into reality TV, baby. I quit in 2017. You're in reality TV.

You're trying to go back to my motherfucking pit. What is the year? What is the year? What is the year? I'm going to be honest. What is the year? Take that more past to the next of the next. What year are we in?

2023. No, you said this is what you do. But that's what you do? I quit in 2017. Don't you do reality TV? What year is it? You know you on supposed to. What year is it?

2023. I quit in 2017, honey. But this is what you still do. You said this is what I currently do. What is the year? Can you do math? That was six years ago. It don't matter.

You said this is what I currently do. No, this is what you think I do. How are you telling me what I want to do? That's all I know you ask. That's your fault. That's your fault. No, that's your fault. No, it's not your fault.

I do a great job. I do a great job, which is why I can tell. Millions off the stock market. Exactly. You wouldn't even need in music. You wouldn't want to shit the money. I don't need it. I don't need it.

I want it. Music takes away from your family. I don't need it. I want it. I love it. You are already a million. You feel of shit, though, baby. And like I said, I waited.

I waited until I was a rich ass bitch to be able to do everything that I wanted to do. The shit. I love this. What's your sign, honey? The Rose is got to her. Just a little man. The Rose they got to you. No way.

I asked you a couple questions. And you, oh, you man. I'll ask you a couple questions. I love it. What's your side? You'll see me mad or another podcast. What's your side? Virgo.

Virgo. Yes. I wouldn't even answer your question if I was mad. I'm going to be honest with you. Okay. I wouldn't even answer your question. Why you so like? This is just me, baby.

We're in a soft tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the motherfucking world. Anyway. I don't let you ram alone for the longest round this motherfucker. But I'm just letting you know, baby, I got the bigger microphone. And I'm just letting you know off the dribble. You can have the bigger microphone.

That's your show. All the dribble. Off the dribble, this is still what you do. This is your show. You still shop yourself around like that. Reality TV is not what I do. And even if it is, I create my own show. Why would I want to?

You shouldn't have to. Why would I want to? You're going to spread love and peace. You sound crazy. I know I do. Because you're going to go in there and spread hate. Hey, Donnie. No, I ain't going to go in there at all.

I ain't going to go out. That's why they have a VIP section with VIP ropes. And they don't let certain people pass the ropes. That's why certain people don't get past the VIP ropes. I'm not going I'm not doing it I'm not jumping in the crowd shoot it I'm not just I'm on the stage for the reason Well if you I'm on the stage for a reason no you be playing no you plan no you plan and you play yourself You're so mad listen you can get in that motherfucker camera all you motherfucking want I said what the fuck I said I ain't playing a motherfucker thing only thing I play is the piano and I ain't even that good at it

How what did you pour something else in that cup Well, that's why I'm a millionaire, baby. Off of everything else. And that's why I, and that's why I paid to quit. And that's why I paid to get out of the contract. Now, I came on here because, why are you off camera talking? Are you that mad? Are you that mad?

You are mad. You got veins popping up here. You got vase popping up. You must be mixed. You turn red. Are you mixed? Are you mixed? Are you mixed?

Are you mixed? Okay, I can tell because you turn red. You turn red. You got that white up in you. You got that white up in you. And I said what the fuck I said. And I said what the fuck I said. And I said what I said and I'ma sit on it.

I'm going to sit like a lady. I'm going to keep sitting like a lady. I'm going to keep sitting like a lady. I'm going to say what I say. And I'm not going to stand up. I'm going to keep sitting. I'm going to keep sitting in my Balenciaga shoes and my balenciaga skirt.

I'm going to keep sitting looking pretty. I'm going to keep sitting, looking pretty. And you're going to act shitty. I don't act, baby. me. I'm a queen, honey. Nah, that's what, that's what you do. That's what you do. That's what I did.

That's what I did. You don't know the year. It is 2023. You want to do dumps the dive in 2017. You do that. You sound crazy. You sound really crazy. You sound really crazy.

You sound crazy. I didn't say you are crazy. You sound crazy. You sound crazy, though. You sound crazy. You sound crazy. Are you gonna sit down or you're walking out? Are you gonna sit down or you're walking out? So they close out, motherfucker out.

You ain't close out. Honey, you didn't close out. Honey, you didn't close out. Your job is to close out. You just gotta be walked out. You're still talking off camera. You're still talking off camera. You're still talking off camera.