No Jumper - Shoebox Baby on Division in O Block, FYB J Mane, Chicago Snitches & More

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Shoebox Baby talks about the security and houses in OBlock, says he’s scared of Trap Lore Ross, pushing peace with FYB J Mane, Adam bringing him up during interviews, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world that I'm back with realistically one of my first, maybe the first Oblochian friend I ever made in my whole life. Shoobox Baby is back. A couple years later. How you feeling? The hair got longer. You're looking all growing up.

I'm like watching your newer music, just trying to like analyze. Like, all right, what has changed? Like, he's kind of like slowly switching up his character, his music, a little bit by bit. Getting older. I still remember that. I walked into, what was that spot where I first seen you

when you were telling me about the pizza puff? What was that? The church, the church next door I blocked. But you brought the pizza puff from like next door

or something. Yeah, across the street. Right. Across the street. Yeah. That's the same church where the dude He's sleeping on the rooftop.

Yeah. What's his name? Bishop. Oh, Brooks. He sleeps on the roof. He sleeps on the roof for old locks like. Money.

Yeah, where he's wearing it so. For how long? Man. How long can he I do? The first time he just did it twice. I'd know the last time

He just did a lad. What was that? 2022? I think he did for like, like 300 and some days or something. What? Yeah. On the roof of all block, though, right?

Yep. Just waking up at 6 in the morning, the sun like melting your fucking skin, dude. All type of gunshot. No, it wasn't even a... Oh, do you have a tent? He started in the wintertime, so he did all four seasons.

I guess if you have a tent, it's a little different. Yeah, he wasn't a tent. He was a tent. You feel like it was effective, though? Yeah. He raised a lot of money. He built in the community center right across the street from Ovalock right now.

Oh, yeah. That's what he was raised the money for. I think he almost done. It should be done like sometime next year. Who was donating the money, though? Like, how was he raising the money? A lot of people from like all over the world. A lot of donors.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's hard. Yeah, he's going to have swimming pool in the studios, basketball gyms, what else, restaurants. It's going to be a lot of stuff. He's like the pastor for like that whole area, though. Like it seemed like people from 63rd and shit rock going to do.

He was like a celebrity pastor. Yeah, he's like the neighborhood pastor for sure. Yeah. Interesting. That's crazy. So, okay, what has changed in your life over the past, like, two years? Give me the big things that have changed. Life just been lifing. My fuckers is getting older.

Witness a lot of shit. Getting more responsibilities out type of shit like that. But the fires the most part, it's been the same thing. Same shit, different day. Chats a Dachers a dream. Where are you at with the music and everything? Because sometimes I feel like I see you talk. talking about it, having big plans and everything,

and then I see you, like, maybe not commentate on it too much for a little while. Yeah. I'm getting ready to put out a project this summer, Kyle, make O'Block great again. So I've been really prepared for that, but it's been like, I wanted to be perfect, so I've been doing it for, like, six, seven months straight, just, like, planning and making it perfect.

Because I want to be more than just, like, a little quick project. I want that shit to be, like, a movement. And that's to be having a meaning to it. What do we have to do to do to make? go blog great again. There's a lot of shit. Need to fix the houses. Fix the security.

All the type of shit. Is the security fucked up? Because I've seen a video the other day and it looked like they got like metal spinning doors when you enter now, which I don't think that was there when I went there. Yeah, they do. Yeah. A lot changed like since you came.

You can't just walk through. Yeah. It's safe though. It's way more safe. Way more safe. I give them that. But it's just like it'd be a lot of like, like, you know, a lot of like conflict. Like people don't really like that.

You were just on live, though, and like, they said that the security was chasing somebody, like, I was trying to sneak in your house. I don't know who the fuck were, but yeah, security, they'd be chasing my fucking. You will sit right there, you'll see them doing all types of shit. But they'd be doing their job. I'd give them that for sure. They really raised the price up to $2,000 a month. Man, I don't know. I was just in the hallway smoking and saw the sign like on the wall.

I'm like, I'm just smoking reading. I'm like, damn, I'm like, what the fuck? Wait, there was a sign on the wall that said the ram was going up. And it was showing like it was a graph showing like how much they expected How much regular rent he is? I'm like damn this shit there in the market rent to live in this motherfucker Yeah, that's crazy how much is like the average apartment right now And what in oblock? I don't even know when I just saw that shit I'm like damn

That's I don't know that's how we're gonna make oblock great again though it go off your income. We're gonna make oblock great again by Raising the rent to the point where the only people who can live there are wealthy people hell no that's how we're gonna make it great again no no we need to get enough money so the rent can be free for everybody yeah but it feels like they're going in the opposite direction

they're trying to tax money I don't know what they got going on I don't know inflation it's inflation going on it could happen it could get gender I mean I've seen all these areas in Brooklyn

get gentrified over the years but it's different when it's like an actual housing project that does not seem like you know people work at tech companies are gonna want to live there as I read the shit I ain't gonna lie. When I took the picture of this shit, I ain't really read. I just saw the numbers.

I'm like, what the fuck? But when I actually read it, I think it was saying, like, basically, like, it goes off, like, your income and shit like that. So I know, like, people who don't really have income, I know they don't be that much. Right. What you think the cheapest they're paying? Because you being over, like, a lot. I figured you had a phone with that. Last time I checked, this was some people in there living, like, they sure was, like, free. Like, they had no income.

Oh, right. Like, they was living rent free, but they had to pay, like, that you two. utilities and shit like that. But yeah, that's about the cheapest I'd heard. But I know for sure it goes off your income. Like when my mom was living up, it was going off her income. So you don't, you know, like, because you all like, damn there every week.

So, like, every day when I'm in Chicago. Yeah, like, you currently don't have an apartment there or you just, like, crash at somebody's career when you're out there or something? Nah, I just beat up. I'd be chilling until I go back downtown. Oh, yeah, yeah. To where I'm at. So really, or if I do, it's a lot of places I can sleep at over there.

But I try not to stay over that at all along, but sometimes that shit is it. You know I'd be, you would just sit there and chill. You'll look up. It's 12 hours later. It's just like so much shit going on that's just like just see different people periodically and it's just kind of entertaining. For sure. For sure.

You will look up here, it'll be three us then. Five minutes later, it'll be 10 us. Next 20 minutes, it'll be 30 us. You'll be chilling. You said that, because you said you're going to drop the project, make Chicago great again. Like a Goga here, right? But you also said that you bring in your drill, but...

Yeah. So you can be dissing on this project? Not, it's not really like, no, like, dis. It's just, like, speaking. Like, when I be rapping on, be, like, trying to diss nobody and that. It's just, I'm just, like, thinking out loud. Like, that's probably what I'm thinking about, because that's really what's going on in, like,

real life situations and it's going on, really in the streets. It ain't like I'm just sitting there making up some shit about what's going on. Like, some of this shit really be going on. like people really be snitching on people. Well, you feel like in order for it to be drill, you kind of have to diss though at this point, right? Yeah, but like, like to each his own, though, like, really, like drill is really drill, like what's going on in the streets.

To me, that's what drill is, like music for the streets and people that's not in the streets still could, you know, relate to it. I don't know how, but they relate to it. I always felt like with you, you seemed like you wanted to do something different and you wanted to be better than that shit. Yeah. But then I also see the sort of conflict where you know that if you become the type of rapper who's rapping about all this gangster shit,

that it's probably going to get a lot of attention in the short term. Yeah, it'd be like that, for sure. But like, like I said, like, when I be rapping about shit like that, it's like, I'd probably be in a studio and I'd be seeing something like, ooh, like, this nigga ain't never just do that. Like, I'd be seeing a lot of shit going on. Niggas be telling, niggas be doing all the type of fluky shit. It'd be going on. And it just be like, that's what be on my mental. But so you would diss somebody that you were previously cool with who snitched before you would just make a song about your ops or, you know, supposed to ops, people that you're not supposed to get along with neighborhood wise?

Wait say it again? Would you rather, would you be, would you diss like a snitch that you were cool with before that before you made a song where you were different, dissing like, you know? First I only like, like, snitches, I only like really talking about them, like, because, like, they are really bogus, but it would be like, if, if the topic come across, Cross, I speak on the topic, but, like, I don't really, like, that really don't be in my genital to talk about no snitches, but, like, sometimes you'd be had to be let that shit be known because people forget, like, motherfuck to deal some bogus shit out in the streets and still being street with that shit, I don't get it. But I thought we were all supposed to be cool with snitches now. That's that new type shit. I don't know about none of that. That's a future.

No nothing about it, man. He said that's that new type shit. Like, everybody's got to be a little bit more open-minded to gay people and snitches now, right? no none about it no but like let's be real I feel like people used to be a lot more homophobic and then as time goes by people get a little bit more accept into that

right even people from a spot like where you're from where it's like the least open-minded people I still feel like people are a little bit more open-minded than they used to be right I've seen that with Crip Mac I don't know maybe it's different on 55th Street but then I also feel like now

you see a lot more people who told or whatever who are able to to kind of be accepted. That's the internet. They accepted and the internet. Like, I don't know Fires don't be intercepted in the streets, but like the internet,

it's the internet. You can't beat the internet. So if that's what the internet's saddened with, that's what they sad with. I know, like, fires like in the real world, now that's not cool. That shit ain't cool at all.

Yeah, I've seen you running down on Shark on Lant. I was like, damn, shoebox made me all grown up. I just was asking him. I was asking him. I didn't know, about it. I never knew nothing about it.

But when I saw him, like it was just like a, like, like he, what's something? What's up? Then my fucking ran it back to me. Like, man, he supposed to do some, some bogus shit. But you hadn't really, you hadn't done your homework recently? I ain't, I didn't do my research on that.

Do you ever see somebody and then you just pull out your phone and you just watch a quick YouTube documentary on the block and then you go confront him? That might be more responsible. No, I'd be going like word of mouth. You too, that's false. So I'd be going to word and mouth. Like, my fucking tell me, like...

Not Traplow Ross. Who, who that, um... That dude. He's the one who did the Vaughn documentary. Man, he's like a fucking encyclopedia, bro. I'm scared at him. Why are you scared him? People that could be a million miles away,

it can... And make up stories about shit from a million miles away, I'm scared of them. They platform's scary. You know what? Trableau Ross is crazy, though, because when I'm talking to him about Chicago, it's like, I just realized, like,

immediately, like, off. Like, he, understands every detail or who did what to who and who doesn't get along with who like so much better than me he speaks that like fluently like he's a non-oblockian who speaks the language like extremely fluently

at this point and that's kind of intimidating he'd be he'd be allegedly knowing what the fucking be talking about like obviously he'd be like I don't saw a couple of his little videos I'm like man what the is this man talking about like is this a theory that's we're going to start college trap Lord Ross theory

straight theories because I never I don't know nothing about that he'd be saying he'd be said all type of weird stuff like damn what the fuck I feel like he was probably more likely to make errors or have things that were technically not true earlier on but like I just

watched a six hour long video that he did about 600 damn six hours bro my brain is kind of fucked up from the shit right now like I'm walking outside he did a six hour documentary and it's got like the most insane type ever it's like Chicago's killer rappers the rappers

who killed I forget exactly what it was but it's like it's a little extra but I feel like at this point he's been making these videos for years and years so it's like he knows exactly when to say this person was allegedly killed by so and so but it also could be this person it could be this neighborhood it could be

you know he'll like he goes so out of his way to like really like make clear when he's not sure about shit that's why I really respect this content But yet again, he haven't been in Chicago? He hasn't. He hasn't. He haven't been in 600?

Probably not. So how do fuck you make a six-hour document? You're about some place. Why you got to go there to know? How would you know? You never been to the moon, but I'm sure you could look up the moon on Wikipedia and probably learn quite a bit. If you guys about the moon, I'm going to say, I don't know none about it. I heard theories about it.

I heard people step foot on it. I don't know none about that shit. I never been to Antarctica, but... We don't know none about it. Well, I mean, I could probably learn quite a bit about it, though. You can learn theories about it. not theories I could learn facts how you know it's facts if you never been a

I mean you know I could I could check my sources I could get information from sources that are trustworthy I want no people I don't go off like here I say like I gotta see that shit firsthand I gotta see that shit firsthand and if it go how I go then you know okay but I'll put it

like this I would trust like a YouTube documentary that seems like a lot of research and time went into it before I trust we've been in here and people told us like you know so-and-so killed so-and-so, and we'll be like, damn. What? But there's no fucking pressure on that person to be telling me the truth.

Talk about, talk about, talk about. You got people coming this and been saying that. Yeah. Oh, I mean, we're really fucking with the rack. So, yeah, people would just be volunteering information sometimes. Man, this shit wicked for who. They're not supposed to be telling us that shit? I don't know what they're supposed to be telling you, but that shit don't sound, that

shit don't sound cool. You want to tell me some shit off camera? No, nothing about it. Sometimes I don't even be off camera. What do you got to hide? Just tell us some shit. I don't know nothing. I'm not going to tell people like, oh,

Chewbox told me that... I don't know none. Right. That's cool. But, I mean, that is how it is, though, when you're actually, like, from a place and you're on the block,

whatever, like, people talk. That's how you get your information. It is weird. Honestly, once you, like, spend enough time on the internet, it is weird when you're out in real life. Yeah.

And people just be telling you shit, and you have no way to fucking figure out if that shit's true or not. Like, when I was at rolling loud, people were telling me that Uzi canceled. So I'm going around telling people, People like, yeah, fucking Uzi canceled. Did he cancel?

He didn't cancel. But like, some random person told me that. And I'm like, just assuming like, oh, it must be true. Why else would they fucking tell me that? You just prove my theory. But I'm talking to some random fucking Cokehead chick in the crowd. He's just telling me shit. Chapman Oroast is a random person.

Random co-ed. Yeah, just. He's random. He's making up random shit. Yeah, but some people from Chicago be saying them stories be a little spot on. And then some things be like, nah, he's chasing it with some shit. Some people from Chicago that's telling you that? They're saying that because

they was watching his videos and thought it was spot on. They're going off his theory as well. So that's why they're like, yeah, he's telling the truth because they believe what he's saying. So you feel like he was lying on a lot of this shit he said about King Vaughn?

Because I didn't heard niggas like, I think Zhu even said he watched it and he put a hell of a documentary. I mean, we're sitting here with Big Mike. He's got a big role in that fucking documentary and he's not taking any issue with it.

You can't fuck with Big Mike? He's from Oblo. He said he wanted like the original Obloblog. How are you hating on Big Mike with a weed crumb on your lip. Damn. Who the fuck? I mean, okay, but...

He's from Parkway? You might not like him. You might not agree with some of his decisions or whatever, but... I don't know Big Mike. Okay, sure. I never heard him. Like, for real. Like, all bullshit is sad.

You gotta be outside more than that. Like, he said, he from... He was Parkway and you was more O-Block. So, like, he was the O-Block. I was living in Parkway. I've been living in O'Block like 16, 17 years. He said he lived there his whole life, too. He said, oh, he said he got the most amount of family in there,

besides the... He's trolling you. I know he's trolling, but I'm just trying to say. I don't know his family members. Because one of your homies, Little Mike. I don't. You know Little Mike, right? I think Little Mike, he from a whole block.

He recently said, like, after Big Mike did an interview, he was saying that a whole bunch of old goofy niggas getting on these platforms and doing interviews and shit. How little Mike look. You follow him. Man, I follow a lot of people. See, I follow Beyonce. I don't know her.

I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. But we don't even have to use Big Mike as an example, but there's a lot of people we talk to about something. I don't know it, though, for real. I don't know.

You might not have seen him around, but I'm sure you like know him. He allegedly for Parkland. Right. We got asked for. I don't even want to ask for it. No, that's what the trash cans for you. All right. Interesting. Okay.

So, uh, what my boy, Juania? He's still locked up? Yeah? How long you locked up for him? I don't know. I know he's doing some programs and shit and, like, going to school or shit, so that's going to help with his time.

But he should be getting out like the beginning of the, no, like the end of 2025. What do you got booked for anyway? I forget. I just remember he would leave. I think they, I think allegedly they said he had to go on. That's when you're, like, original homies and shit. It's like, you, him,

Jado We all grew up together Yeah Yeah Like we all around the same age Like we went to school Play basketball

We did all that together Yeah so he wanted The jumpouts right What about Mona Aiki though He around y'all age Or he younger or something Manoike

He's younger to me That's my little brother He younger to me I think he's more like My little brother Chub's age He around that So he like

He like a year or two under me We interviewed him a little while back But my question is, are you guys, like, he's on some more chill shit too. He's trying to stay out of the bullshit and shit and everything. Obviously, you'll see some comments here and there and you'll realize like, oh, okay, he's not a fucking angel or anything either. But, like, is that kind of indicative of some of the newer generation that doesn't necessarily want to be on the crazy shit that some of the older generation was? It just be like, nobody's perfect. Everybody got their own opinions and their own feelings.

So, you know, sometimes people act out of, like, they must. emotion. Sometimes motherfuckers, like me, I think out loud a lot. Like, like, I don't know why. I just never been in type of person, like, bite my tongue shit. Like, I just think out of loud. I feel like you're, like, you want to go in like a Corday direction. But you got to like, but I'm saying like, you got to navigate the fact that because of where you're from and because of who you've been associated with and shit that people want to kind of hear a different side. See, I'm pushing positivity. I push positivity a lot. Because, like, you know, again, nobody perfect.

Like, what if one day some negative shit happened? You know? How could you say you pushing, like, how could people say they push it peace? Like, what if something, you got to defend yourself one day? You ain't push a peace no more. Like, pacifism only works if you're existing in an environment where you're not dealing with people who are dealing in, like, extreme violence. Like, if I was living in.

fucking Israel. I mean, good luck saying that you want to just be peaceful. I'm just, I'm a pacifist. No, you got motherfuckers coming to your house trying to kill you. You're going to have to pick up a stick. Yeah, for sure. You got to, that's why I say, like, I push positivity because I like the positive things of life.

But like, I want peace and shit like that. But like, what if you got to defend yourself? Self-defense don't come with peace. Self-defense, you got to fight fire with fire. No, that's real. But, I mean, let's be real. We don't all live in Israel, and we can kind of choose our lifestyle. And, like, you know, I guess we're lucky as Americans that most of us don't have it right in front of our face on a consistent basis.

But, you know, some people do. Right. So you won't be joining, no, J-Man, and the pushing peace movement. Because he recently just called upon O'Block members to since Tate Savage locked up, he needs somebody from the O'Block to join him in this pushing peace movement. I don't know that guy. He ain't ever seen him? my mom said don't be talking to the strands

like that so I don't communicate with him I don't make serious how did you feel when he brought the whoops to King Von Murrow I think you seen that at least right you felt like that was disrespectful

or you was just man I don't know man like I feel like like I don't know like what was my take on that shit like what the fuck is a box of cereal

I was gonna do what that supposed to be a P symbol is it but a piece symbol is it a piece simple or is it like a marketing strategy? Which one? Probably a marketing strategy. Right. So that's why I feel like my fucker trolling

or something. That's weird shit. That's weird. Because like, what if I go on 63rd in Vernon and have a back-to-school giveaway? That'd be hard. Right, that'd be hard. But a lot

of people think, like, I'm trolling or something like that. But you even like giving out money or a school supplies or whatever, you could at least think that like some people would give you the benefit of the doubt, whereas him just going to the fucking mural for two seconds with the box of cereal. Yeah. You're trying to content.

Yeah. Hmm, man. You know shit that's genuine when it's not. If J-Man really wanted to push the piece, he would probably want to issue some kind of apology for all the people he was smoking on and all his music and shit, because there's probably a lot of people that ain't forgot about that shit.

Even if most people have forgot about and are like, cool, just be a Be a comedian, whatever. As long as he want to, I'm going to say this, I'm going to say this. If he want to allegedly push peace and like, no, like he's saying, he's turning, he's turning, like, he's trying to go a whole other direction.

How about all the songs he got on YouTube where he dissed someone's dead? How about delete him? Well, probably a lot of those are gone because of Thunkey Man. He got his whole channel blamped. But still, the ones that's not there. How about delete him? That's a show a sign.

That's a step closer. Because you got to think about the people that you was allegedly smoking on. They got mothers, they got sisters, they got kids. But now you're saying you push the piece after their family did. And you just say what you said about him. And he got all this cool shit going on. But realistically, there's probably people out there that have been offended by certain lyrics. And they're like, they don't got a lot going on.

They've just been mad as fuck at you for a few years. Yeah, I don't like, I don't, I ain't go down. I don't know. know Jay Man's song off top of my head, but I remember it was a time when every song that man, every song he did that man was this somebody. Oh yeah. Every

song, like he didn't get that shit a break. Anyone even like no, he was throwing a subliminal in the song of them. The man was just like, really just like saying fuck people. He's smoking them. He did this, that, pissed on him off a gray, like shit like that. Like so, oh.

Yeah, so because F.BG. Young had told him if he was really pushing peace, he should just walk into O Block with his arms up and just really push peace that way. Oh, Jesus. What you think? You don't think that a fly? You need to find peace within itself first.

That ain't going to happen if he keeps eating all the cereal, bro. All that sugar? I like the Durkios. Durkios are good. You think we should switch them out for the whoops? Can you pour the grab the Durkios? Right. For your interview, we should swap out.

I like the Durkios. Give me the Vs, too. I fuck with the Vs. All right. What about the fleshlight? What's that? I'm supporting real genuine people. Like when I'm being platforms,

and it's like, shout out Grabberleaf as well. Like, I'm supporting, like, real genuine people and real people who are really doing shit by, like, with their heart and not for attention. With that being said, are you tired of, like, all the YouTubers coming to O'Block, coming to y'all hood and shit? No, it's like, to me, I feel like,

it's no problem. Like, I look at it's like, my neighborhood is like a monumental place in Chicago, so like, why not embrace it for the positivity of it and not the negativity of it? See what I'm saying? So, like, people doing shit like that,

that's positive because we meet new people from across the fuck of rural. A lot of people from my neighborhood never even went downtown. So shit like that is positive. Like, the pain, that's positive to me. That's shit a monument.

they ain't in Chicago right now like people come to Chicago they don't some people don't go to the bin people go right there people see that come to the ghetto and see this this beautiful pain how dangerous is that though

for somebody say safe you from out of town it's safe it's safe it's safe that's not dangerous as all but it's like the image that they're able to get they make it like it's negative and then they go again me tell you that's why I

puts positivity. That's another point why I do that. But if y'all see like random cars just pulling up, y'all not like looking at it like who the fuck

them niggas is? Like, well if it's just some random out of town fans, they just pull up at the mural. I just say like to be a way

is to be a laugh. Yeah. That's how like I really get for shit like that. Do people get pressed sometimes when they go outside of it? Because I didn't see videos people would be like

kind of pressing them like who y'all nigs is? I ain't ever see no video. It's a video like it's a video like that for real? I mean, yeah. Go look at all the blogs on Chicago. There's definitely some videos where niggas, like, who are all of this?

I ain't see that for real. I ain't see that. That's funny. But I know they, I probably, like, no, again, to be aware, to be allowed, people probably was like, they probably was like, just trying to check their surroundings. They probably weren't even on no aggressive shit. But, you know, the blogs make everything aggressive when they come to Parkway Gardens and that neighborhood, period.

So, is there really, like, do you feel like this? Tension between the older generation and the younger generation? Like, I've seen quite a few YouTube videos sort of discussing this divide. Is that a real thing? What, like, what? Like, within, like, the neighborhood? Yeah. No.

Again, there goes some more false shit. I just saw some shit like, I'm like, huh? I'm like, what the fuck? I saw a YouTube video or some shit like that talking about a civil war. And I'm sitting right there with like three, four guys that's eight, nine, ten years older than me. Like, what the fuck is they talking about? Right. But you might have just not been around the specific people that were involved in shit, right?

Like, no, that's shit false. Ain't no animosity between the older and the youngest. Like, we all grew up together. Even though they older, we grew up with them. Like, as they got older, we got older. We learned from each other and we loved each other like real brothers. So, like, nah, man, never. Never.

Never. I want to say, like, you know, You got a younger brother, older brother? Younger sister, but... You're like your siblings, like, you know, you and your sister are getting to a y'all bicker, shit like that, it's nothing. Everybody had them type of situations.

I've seen a lot of brothers, though, where shit can become a big deal, you know, and maybe things can never be the same again. If God can forgive, anybody can forgive. Does God have to forgive? I mean, I guess... It says, God, God is merciful.

Right. But I feel like there's definitely some situations in which God isn't going to be merciful, right? God is merciful. You can repent for anything you do. Anything? Look, take this advice from me. Like, when you, in the real world, like, somebody make you mad or angry or make you feel something like, just say, what would Jesus do? God forgive.

So it's okay to forgive. Don't hold grudge. It's life too short. You haven't converted over to being a Muslim? No, I'm Christian, but my brother's they're Muslim. Yeah, you got to get with the times. That's your taking over. Nah, it's just, I believe in what I believe in.

I respect them for believing what they believe in, but that's just not, like, no. Why do you think so many people on Oblock is like converting over to being a Muslim or Islam? Maybe they got gadded through the path. Like, maybe people have gadded them and showed them, like, the way. Yeah. And maybe they was a firm believer.

No. Just like how a Christian to be a Christian. It's none, it's nothing, it's nothing, how I want to say it. It's nothing, like, different about being a Muslim. Like, it's a religion. Just like, you got to think the same thing

you will ask about being a Muslim, you ask about being a Catholic, being a Christian, being apostolic, all that. Like, everybody got their own story on how they got led to God. This is different rules. Different beliefs. Because I've talked to a bunch of Muslims who told me that even just making music is like technically goes against Islam and like you're really not supposed to be doing it.

Yeah, I ain't going to laugh. Like the guys that told me a lot of things like, like things about being a Muslim. And I was like, wow, that's way different from what I thought or what I believe. Sniko turned into a Muslim and now his wife is wearing like a full head to toe not showing any of her body besides her eyes. And she's not allowed to talk. She has to write on a whiteboard. I heard something like that. I heard something like that, like the women, the women that are Muslims,

they're not able to show their body. Oh, yeah. You go to a lot of countries, they can't show anything. That would be the most insane shit ever if you go to Oblock and these girls head to toe and hijabs. Yeah, for sure. That would be a real change of pace for the neighborhood. I feel like the Muslim wave in Oblock and shit, though,

was probably more about, like, guys doing guys stuff. It's not really, like, they ain't really tripping on the girls. It's, like, really, like, from what I learned from, like, the people that's around me, that's Muslim, like, they got a real, they got a real strong, strong relationship with Allah. Like, I'd have been around them, and, like, we'd be chilling. And they'd be like, hold on, I got to go pray. And, like, shit like that, I respect, because that man, you really believe in this shit, and you really taking this shit serious.

Like, you're not just doing this shit to be jumping on the bag. man wagging or being mediocre, like, there's really what you believe in. So that's why, like, that's why I'm all for. Like, whatever you want to, whatever you want to be, if you want to be Muslim, you want to be Christian, apostolic, just be the best of it. I just wonder, like, when you become Muslim, how much of an expectation it is that you leave the street shit behind. Or how much they kind of are able to, like, run concurrently in your brain, like, you can be on both at the same time. I mean, like, I don't, it's all like everybody's human, nobody's perfect, you know? Like, even if you turn over to a new chapter in your life, like, shit from old chapter C or LeBee chasing after you and shit like that.

So no one's perfect. Was there a vibe shift in O Block when the O Block 6 got arrested and eventually found guilty of the whole duck thing and everything? Did that kind of change shit up? Because that's some of the most, like, beloved, like, well-nobloch? known people from there. So, like, what you mean about Vabs, Jeff? You know, it's just things got to be different once, like, five or six of your fucking good friends who you were used to seeing all the time get picked up for some crazy

shit like that. And then you're, like, never seeing them again. It puts a big microscope on the block from, you know, the cops and all the shit like that, I'm sure. Stuff like that worries me because it'd be like, like, damn, like, you really can just, like, make these emphasis that somebody did this and that. and that's not true. So it's crazy.

Like, people, freedom could be took false allegations with no proof of shit like that. So it's like, damn, like, that shit just made me like, that shit make me just like, be like, damn, I just want to just do better in my community. I just want to see my community in another direction because people try to pull my community to a negative direction. So you're not buying it?

You don't think they did it? They didn't, like, No. Why would trenches news lie? I don't even know that guy. Did you actually go to the trailer? Yeah. I came to support.

Like you used to do like every day type shit? No, not every day. But like the times I did, I came a few times. Did you happen to see trenches or butter on the stand? That's shit crazy though, man. Yeah, that's crazy. Like people are going to sit there and lie. Like, like, how you can sit there and just like really make these stories up and give people?

a hundred, 150 man years off some lives for some cash, that shit, that shit wicked, bro. Like,

shit like that's, shit like that just be making me want to fall back on the streets period. I just be on work on music

and helping my community. Yeah, Trencher said he got paid, but Buddy said he did take the stand, but he said anything he told him the stand can't hurt

or do anything to their case. But he said that he admitted that he did take the stand and shit. So how do you feel about, like, like butter a newfound thing because I know you've been seeing them on YouTube a little bit

that's shit crazy man that's crazy like damn people be out people really be out of it's one thing to tell or someone

and get their freedom took away from them but to tell on them and lie about it like to make a lie to tell that shit bogus that shit crazy bro for real

I seen recently they said they'll move out when I get in a pill I might get out soon Did you see that? All them are power of manifestation. You think they're all going to get out? They didn't do it.

Why should they be in jail for something they shouldn't do? Right. They miss their families. They miss their friends. They miss their freedom, their life. I respect you saying that. You got to stand by your guys in the face of overwhelming evidence. That shit crazy, though, man.

Definitely. Okay. you never met FBG buddy in real life though I don't know him do you think that we would be stupid to hire him as a consistent host on No Jumper because we talked about it but then it's also been discussed that he's like

kind of too disrespectful I'm gonna say to me like do what you do but I'm gonna say like that shit has hurt like hurt your platform a lot because you got to think about it your platform a lot of real street people

look at these platforms to see what they favor artists or people they can relate to talking about, you know? To get more of an info in their life and for you to have people like that on your shit, that shit ain't cool. Because of the telling thing? People ain't going to relate to it.

Or just the op thing? I was just like, man. That shit self-explanatory, man. Interesting. I'll take that into consideration. Because like you got to think about it.

It had hurt your platform because you're going to lose a lot of real street people because they're not going to see no person who said to tell lives and get people took away from their family on their talking. Well, maybe we can have a special color code on the calendar so that when we do have, you know,

ops coming in, then FBG but it wouldn't be here. I don't know nothing about no ops, but I just know stool pigeons shouldn't be sitting there. But like the day that we book a shoebox baby interview we definitely probably should not have

butter on the schedule the same day. That could be awkward. I don't think you should have more than any time, man. Really? Just even in general, I interview on them. Yeah. For the sake of your platform, for the sake of what you're doing. That's just me give you suggestions. He's doing like millions of views and shit on interviews and shit.

I feel like he got a story that people want to end. Butter. Damn. I mean, it's a million and fucking. it's a fucking million a million cows that can relate to him that's what that mean

I can't relate to that man even if you don't relate to somebody you still can't just tap in and see what they gotta say and just hear they sign out I'm not tapping in a note if you ain't righteous I ain't tapping in yeah

I'm on the righteous side of life so I ain't tapping in really that's fair enough how did you and D.D. Osama end up linking up um I think he was in Chicago and I had slid to S.B. Studio.

Shout out of my boy, SB. I slit there, and Did he was recording and shit. And I was in there with our little receiver was there too. And they was going to, I don't know what they was going to do, but I came in. Then Deid's like, man, you want to hop on something? We did some shit, and I had fucked with it. Then he came, I met him in Miami again.

And he was like, man, we got to shoot that shit. I'm like, I just come to Chicago. He came the next day. That's not just in the O'block, right? In front of the number? Yeah, 900,000 screens right now on Spotify. 2 million views on YouTube. Damn.

Going crazy. You fucking with the New York drill wave in general, or is that kind of new to you? I fuck with the New York drill wave because, shit, it's what, like, every city got its own story. So, like, that's probably, like, the wave they end and shit. I don't get a fuck, like, what they talk about, nothing that. Like, some of that shit be good, but it'd be like, shit, I respect all of them trying to help feed their family because they're doing the same thing.

I'm doing. So that's why I can respect the New York drill way. But, like, the New York, like, the politics I don't really get into it because that shit, like, a hair scratcher. I don't be really knowing who in tour with who. Like, I'd be cool with somebody, and we'd do some music, not knowing, like, they're doing somebody else I'm cool with. So that's why I just be like, I tell artists of New York,

like, I ain't got nothing to do with y'all's shit. But, like, if I fuck with you, I fuck with you. And if I fuck with him, I fuck with him. That ain't gonna change because y'all into it. But I make sure nothing never happened on my watch. When I listen to New York drill, a lot of times it feels like that shit's in Spanish because I don't really know who the fuck they're talking about.

Whereas like a lot of Chicago drill, it's like I completely know all these fucking names and shit. Yeah. Might not have it 100%, but I like know a bunch of it. Yeah. But then you listen to the New York shit and it's like, oh, they got hundreds of different dead people that I never heard of. Man, that's great. Rest of peace of all of them, though. Yeah.

I'm sure. Something's pretty cool. Speaking of being into it with somebody, I had seen you recently was going, I don't know how recent it was, but you was going back and forth for some dude named bands from Risky Road or some shit.

What the fuck is Risky Road at? I just not heard about that shit. I don't know. Brother, actor. He actor. But what shall even get into it for? He was trying to say that you got, he said you got slapped up

and sent back to your hood and shit. He never slapped me, nigga never robbed me. Nick never did nothing to me, gang. I never got none of that, none of that shit. shit never happened.

I never, like, what the fuck? Like, they came out of nowhere that shit. I just take that shit as, like, niggas trying to get clickbait to boost their career. So that's why I really weren't trying to respond to it. I was wrong for even making a post about the shit in the first place. I feel like that was below me, especially some people. I don't even know him. Because you kind of blew it up when you made it up, when they made the pose of shit, everybody started paying attention.

That's why I don't even know this guy, man. It's a man of nobody. Who the fuck is he? But we're at risky road at that. That's kind of close. I don't even know. I don't know for real that shit like I don't know he actor brother actor oh so y'all never even met him like at all he just- I never sick that man in my life bro oh so he was just chasing him ain't even trying to fuck that shit

fuck that shit you're gonna let niggas lie let him lie let him do what they do no I feel it tell the nigga play with me now if they if allegedly something happens to me tell him play with me now now now that I know Then you had attention to make it like you did something to me or something happened to me. So you met him before? No, I never met him. I never seen him, bro. Yeah. I never seen him.

I just found out he rap and everything. I don't know him, bro. I swear, I promise, I do not know that guy. Yeah. Yeah. He just made that shit up. I mean, there's just so many content creators in Chicago these days in general. It's like a whole new wave, you know.

You go a lot of vloggers, TikTokers. Yeah, it's a lot. You respect it or you think that a lot of them need to chill the fuck out? Whatever you do out here to feed your family, if you make an honest living, you out here doing something illegal, you're out here doing content, you rap, you're a lawyer, you're a doctor, you're a fucking school lunch lady, I respect it because you're trying to do something to help the people around you.

So, like, yeah, I'm pushing positivity. So if it's positive, yes, that's a positive, yes, that's a positive. anything positive I'm gonna be on that I'm gonna be on that boy respect so how do you feel about

Chief Keith performing at Summer Smash over the summer first time back in the city in 12 years or so how does that feel that Cole Bennett was like

finally able to make it happen he's back that's a big W for drill culture one day we'll hear what had to happen behind the scenes because Cole like when he first announced it, he said that it took a ton of work.

And I don't know exactly what that might have entailed. Shout out Cole Bennett, he got it done. That's a big, big, big win. How crazy you think that shit is going to be a Chicago? I can't wait to see. You going to go to it? Hell yeah.

So it's going to be a lot of ops in there, and everybody going to be mixing in that night, ain't it? Man, I don't know nothing about it, but I know it's going to be busing. And he headlining, right? Yeah, he had lines. You got him, Travis Scott, and Playboy Cardi, Man, they better get that man

A two hours a set. But when you actually look at the bill, it's only a couple people from Chicago, right? Yep. That Vaughn off 1700s on it. Shout out of Vaughn, he'd go crazy. It's just hard. But there's not that many other people,

at least from when I looked at it, maybe I need to study it a little bit more. Yeah, that's a topic we need to, like, that's like something that we need to work on, like in Chicago. We'd be having these big old concerts. Like, we need to start, like, other places I'd be seeing, like, a lot of,

like, they be into, like, they had artists in the city. So, yeah, for sure. We need to have more Chicago artists. I don't care if they opening up, like, you know. I think it's more so it's a liability for whoever's throwing the show or, like, also the venue because you book all these Chicago people, they might have problems with each other, and then something happening.

Then now. That's the people, the organization, that's their job to, like, dig into what's really going on and to the drill music culture or any music period in like the politics and relationships, you know? Okay, so we're listening. Or they could just simply ask like, hey, we want to, we want to book you for Summer Smash.

Do you have a problem with Alyssa these guys? Let us know we can arrange some. And then you're going to say, all right, so say if they did want to book you to Summer Smash and they had a few people that were ops on there, but if they said, all right, we can book you and we're going to book them. Would you still do it?

Me personally, if I'm getting paid, I'm coming. All right. For sure. But then how realistic is it that something still might happen if they got all these dudes that got problems booked on a bill? Niggis going to be waiting in parking lots and shit. Like, is it going to be one of those situations? If they can't pay it as well.

Okay. We shouldn't be worried about each other. It's different for a Chief Keefe who realistically is probably going to be moving around Chicago with like an absurd amount of security and police presence and shit like that because it would be insane for him not to. It's kind of different when you're just like a more regular artist. But also, if you're going to be putting Chief Keefei, as the headliner on your shit, realistically,

probably anybody he doesn't get along with is not going to be on the bill that day. If it's some serious shit. I think Chief Keith get along with everybody. I believe Chief Keith is too wealthy to be worried about being two of people. So I don't think it's going to be a problem with Chief Keith being in Chicago.

I really think it's going to be a good thing for Chicago. I think it's going to be a good thing too. But, I mean, it's not like he's totally left that shit behind since he was smoking Tuka like a month ago, too. That's a scream. That was a human being that they, I guess,

when they say they're smoking too because it's a reference to someone who got killed. I feel like you know how this goes. I know it's a weed screen called that shit too, though. You're real, real clever guy this guy over here.

He said, that's a show. See, look at the demon comes out. Why me more ban from a old block, man? This man, this boy, crazy. Yeah, right here, boy. comes out.

Why are I trying to ban Mimo from Hoblock? I've seen some shit where it said, Mimo ban from O'Block. You have fissured it up? What was that on YouTube? On live, yeah, it was on YouTube. Don't be believing YouTube, bro. So you on Mimo cool, Mimo come slide through?

I'm cool with everybody. Yeah. So you and Mimo, y'all should do some. Mimo are one of my favorite artists when they come to the Chicago show? I thought he been good music. You do some songs on them? Y'all got some shit?

I do some... I'm cool with everybody, man. I ain't got no problem with me, Mo. You did a song? I remember memo when I was little. I don't get no problem with him. So he's getting an old block, though, right? Yeah.

For sure. I remember when I was younger, like 16, 17. I remember folks. I seen a video that was like everybody's shoebox baby dissed in this song, and I clicked it because I'm like, damn, who's he dissing? I ain't really like it. And then I click on it, and it's like, there's no disused. the whole time, the whole thing.

The only things that they could point out was hand signs that other people threw up in the video. But there was no, they didn't really like point out any of your bars. What the fuck? What was that sound language? Like, I was, I was, I was, I was supposed to diss them in sound language or something.

I was interested. I was like, damn, this is going to be a good three-minute video. I told you, like, by the end of it, I was like, I wasted three minutes. Like, I had to embrace, like, I felt like people do a lot of stuff. No, I'm going to say, no, my mama told, my mama told me,

people, people like, your name be on the internet a lot because people, they trust, they like get momentum off you because they know you're one of the ones that are respond. She told me like I need to just stop, like, responding to people because it ain't doing it but giving them a platform because I have a bigger platform for these people. So that's what I'm on now. Like, I ain't responding to show me the proof.

Anything. Show me the proof. That's all. That's like I do. I saw that because, when you got mad at me and you recorded a video going at me because I mentioned your name when I was talking to what's her name Sidney Star you deleted it soon after I have proof you said my name bro I went up early I'm seeing notifications I read a video I mean I'm watching a video I'll say my name to some shit I ain't got nothing to do with on

but that's what I was saying is I was saying I know you didn't fuck shoebox what man since she said she was saying that she piped a bunch of old blocky and Back in the day, though. The old old heads, probably. Probably like your uncles or some shit. Like somebody that you never even... I don't believe. A troll buddy right in.

His ass is going to help you, tro. He'll help you. No, but she said she was beating up cheeks all over Chicago. I don't know nothing about it. She probably got all kinds of odd bodies and everything. But it's like 10 plus years ago. When boss started getting out? Real song?

Real soon, though. So. Soon. He got a couple of months left. Y'all going to see him just pop out. That'll be crazy. That'll be a big addition to Chicago when he's back. Because I feel like there's like a hole in the game.

Do you feel like the drill scene in Chicago or the music scene in general is in a good spot? Or you feel like it's kind of lacking right now? I feel like it's in a good spot. Like fires like catching traction and like people being champed in. I feel like I feel like it's a lot. in a good spot. What about O Block right now? At one point you had King Vaughn going crazy.

Chief Kee too. I mean, of course you had Cheeky he started everything. But like a couple years ago, it was a real movement on. Real movement going on. You feel like right now, because I seen you said you're about to take over

for O'Block, what do you feel like the space is for O'Block rappers right now? Who really got chance to really take it off to the next level? I'm trying to take over for like Chicago, not even like my community. Like, there's no competition in my community.

Like, me and the guys, that rap in our community ain't no competition we all try to do the same thing yeah we all trying to help the people we love that's around us that's struggling get up like us so like I'm gonna start rewording them more like like like like I'm gonna correct you when you said like I'm trying to take off O block I'm not trying to take off O block I'm trying to take off O'Block I'm trying to take up Chicago fires music wise and being like being like someone who helped the community in a city period like I want to be one of the ones who like like do stuff like I smirking G Herbo guy like,

sware over through success and Naval Hero Foundation, shit like that. I want to do shit like that. Who do you feel like massage yourself? Who do you feel like is in that lane right now for Chicago? Like, who's really putting in the work? Bitters, Manta Ike. Von out of 1700.

M.A.F.T.S.E.F.T.S. about Tushche. Oh, YFESO, Chuckie, Lick King, it's a lot. DCG brothers, there's a lot of people.

Cam Slam, Buck Munner, G Nook, it's a lot of people. A lot of people right now, man. Chicago in a good space for us music-wise.

And we got a lot of, like, a lot of vet artists that's big already, reach it back out to us. I feel like that's what Chicago

what was missing for a long time, but like, it's happening now, so I feel like, you know? Like who? Like who somebody? Like, G. Herro, smirk. That little big. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's crazy because, like... Little Recy, for show.

My boy, little risi, I fuck with folks. I seen you have, like, some OTF chains on the shit in, like a picture. Mm-hmm. What's your relationship with Dirt? You're assigned OTA? Yeah, uh, dirt. That's my big brother, man. That's one, that's one of them guys, like, like, real authentic.

With the music. like people like him like I look up to like Fives like music wise and like just helping others and like being a leader for sure I got music and shit and talk like

he's gonna be on your next project In the future Yeah I want to put them on Moga though for sure Like my dream My dream like My dream like track list for a Boka The artist is like I got on the

I won't I want to have smirk on now I want to have Sosa on there. I have Vaughan on there. I want to have Risi on there. I want to have Mouap on there, top on there. Like the real, like, drill culture. Like, people who, like, my neighborhood was, like, brought up wit.

Like, the people who really, like, help my neighborhood. It's so noticeable. And, like, really help my neighborhood. Fives, like, the people in there, the guys that's in jail. Like, you know. If you get, I'm going to be messy. If you can get one feature right now from Sosa Dirt, who you're going to choose? What the fuck?

On the spot. I like it, Remo. Put him on the spot. Damn, he's crazy. I got to pick one. Yeah, right now they're saying, you get one feature. You're going with Smirk or you're going on with Sosa right now.

Damn, one, though. Yeah, you're one, though. How about I put both up on one track? Nah, that's an easy way out. You can't say that way out. Even I know you fought with both, but I'm saying right now, for your project, who you feel like are going to be a better fit for your project right now? You'll go with the Sosa feature or the dirt feature.

It's hard, though. I ain't going to lie. It's hard. Because right now, if you would ask me this, like, like a month or two ago I just I was back if you were gonna ask me this the whole last four years

I'd say like I say smirk because he yeah but Sosa he didn't back up right now yeah but it's like I see Sosa back chiming in to Chicago that shit like major

that's something like you know like so it's like damn I don't know I'd love to have both of them on that though that shit to be raw no drummer just posted about this conversation

that posted it, Dirk posted a screenshot of him and Sosa talking? Yeah. That's kind of crazy because we ain't really seen him have anything to do with each other in like 10 years and I just had an anonymous source hit me up and tell me basically that they've been fucking with each other. So that kind of opens the door because I

feel like Dirk and Sosa going on tour together or whatever. It could be like one of the biggest tours. That would be insane. That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. You feel like 300 still the thing? What's you mean?

Because at one point, 300 seemed like it was like Little Reese, Chee Keith, Little Dirt, everybody together. It seemed like everybody in together as much as it like they used to be back in the day. I know 300 is a label. I know that shit like still going, so yeah. Who did 300 the label?

Who label is that? That's a Reese's label? I don't know, but I know. He's talking about the actual label. I'm talking about 300 like from Chicago. Like y'all was going, there was a big 300 movement you know about it. So I'm saying at one point it seemed like it was super strong,

seem like everybody kind of part of way is doing their own shit. Like, how do you, what do you see the 300 movement right now? I thought, I thought, like, I thought, I don't know, I thought 300 was a label for show. So, like, no, I can't really speak on that.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure everybody could. Yeah, that's good. And he's slick, right? I don't know. I mean, hey, man. I ain't about nothing. He said, I thought it was a leg. I mean, shit. It is a labor, ain't it?

You know, damn well, you can't. You know. Yeah, he's trying to try. But Remo's just going to let it happen. He's like, he's like forgetting that you're just trolling the shit out of him. And he's like, what? I'm not trolling. He's like, is that Little Reese's label?

I'm giving you real knowledge. Like, what I'm saying is real nothing. Why do you think Lil bit Be getting so over drunk out there? It's like every other month. There's like a video of him just being fucked up. Yeah. So I thought like. Over drunk.

Um, like. You feel like he retired. What's over drunk? He'd be getting shit-faced and like random girls. beginning incriminating as videos of him and shit. He got into that situation with the bum. He dumped the fucking liquor on his head

or the water or whatever it was. And then there was one with him fighting with a bunch of dykes. And then there's a new one that just came out of some bitch like fucking with him. He's wearing like super tight white pants and she's just like, he's just wasted. And I'm like, damn, Reese.

Like, you can't just be drunk as shit out here like that. You're over drunk. I told him, he said he was breaking up the fight with the dykes. He wasn't fighting. Yeah, that's what it looked like. He looked like he was breaking. Let security do that. You're royalty.

We don't need you fucking breaking up. He's a robot. He being a road bottle here. He's like an influencer in the city. He needs to stay in the crib. He's helping her push positivity. That go my pushing positivity slogan again.

Bro, let them hos sort it out themselves. You don't got to be inserting himself into that, bro. He needs to be posted up. Like, we can't have research. We didn't see too many crazy reiss videos. Yeah, man. Man, Reese is funny. He's a real man of people.

He out here having a good time. A little too fun. Too much fun. Hey, you'll be like, if they said, if I had to ask, like, top three funny people in my life, that man, Risi, his ass, hilarious, bro. You got a morbid sense of humor, then. He's a scary dude. Man, funny, though.

He's funny as he'll. He's funny. And he look out a lot. Like, he's one of them artists who, like, he, one of them artists that, like, if he can, if he fuck with you and he like what you're doing, like he'll help you, he'll help push you. Did you know PGF Nook before he blew up rapping? Or did you all link after he popped off?

Yeah, I knew him about, I knew him like from music. I didn't know him like, I probably knew him for like a year and a half too. How did you guys end up doing that song together? Twy and Vernie. He was PGF Nook manager. Twy and Vernie, that's work daddy. Oh, really? Me and him got a relationship.

Like, we're real cool, real tight. So he's like, man. He's like, man, son, I want you to fuck with my artist. So I fucked with him. Off the script between him. PGF, nook, cool, though, free PGF nut. Yeah, he got himself into all kinds of crazy-ass situations the past couple months.

Allegically. Well, I mean, he definitely actually got arrested, regardless of it if he did it or not. Yeah. But they say any carjacking, Everybody. He got... Allegedly. He got switches everywhere.

Allegedly. I mean... Don't forget the allegedly word, man. I mean, they got him with it. Man, allegedly. You innocent. To prove it again? I feel like you're over allegedly in it.

Huh? Because, like, realistically, I mean, they caught him with the crouton on the glizzy. What the fuck? What? I mean, that's a big charge. What the fuck? What's pause about a salad?

No, I'm saying? like pause, pause, like timeout, what the fuck is you talking about right now? The crout on the glizzy

that's what we call it. That's what I'm calling the switch now. Ask me to have done a question, man. This man, he's funny, scrella's going to beat my ass now

because he knows I'm stealing that lyric from him. Oh, that's a scrella bar, yeah. I heard you say, you try to knock down or not knock down

you attracted the, uh, glorilla. You said a lot of people thinks you're all pretty women. It's all pretty women. That's fucked up, though.

You need to wipe up a Chicago thought. Damn. Folks call their ass, I'm in, you know. Damn. You're not into it? There's no chicks out here catching your eye?

Glorillas. This man. What's wrong with it? Man, he got to do something for the city. She's from Memphis. I don't know if they'll get along. Man. She's on the hood.

I ain't going to lie. It's a pretty woman in Chicago, for sure. For sure. They're starting to get BBLs in O'block now or no? Yeah, someone was They got BBLs You told me that there was none Last time

Nah It's some nah When I talked to you That was what The pandemic? No, that was like Yeah, it was like early Yeah

20-21 or something Yeah My fucks got money That's what I'm saying That's dope That's gentification More BBLs You go out around Hollywood

You see BBLs everywhere In Hollywood I ain't with Hollywood yet Since I've been I ain't go yet Mm How many times you've been in LA? It's like...

I don't know. I've been here a couple of times, but it'd be like, really like not that much. I hate the flight, man. That shit too long. Like, that shit, four and a half hours

from anywhere. I don't like that shit. But I fuck with L.A. So Glorilla never hit you back about that? No, it wasn't enough to hit me back. It was just me thinking out loud. You were just being horny out loud.

What the fuck? It's like, talk about who you want. want to hit and shit. I mean... Hell, no. You tell me, me, your ass,

no, no. Hey, I'm the same way. His ass. You learn for me, I think. Freaky frog. You learn for me. Freaky frog.

I'm a zesty disciple. Big dog. What? What? You ain't heard about that? Never. We got a whole new movement going. No, dog.

I don't know about all that. It's cool. We're not like ops with anybody. We're just gay as fuck. Man, out of work. You got to stop. You got to stop, man.

You got to stop, man. They don't be liking that shit on end that. motherfuckers being that, man. Every time I see my phone, a motherfucker, I always talk about, man, that nigga Adam, you know. So they see you and they think about me.

We're tapped in like that? I don't know, bro. I'm just saying, like, sometimes, some, you say what? I put you on the hood, right? How do you put me on, what? I feel like, you know, I kind of put you in the game

with that first interview. For sure you. So people come back, they're like, so you help you help me. It's like dirt bringing Vaughn on the breakfast club. Yeah, like you, you were shining, you were shining, like. No, you're already doing your thing

No, I can't take anything away from me. Yeah, but you, for sale, you're saying there's some light on me, for so. But people coming up to you and being like, hey, what's up with your big homie? Nah, man, hey, hey, time about you, man, be doing all that freaky ass shit on the internet. They told me like, to stop doing that stuff, I'm like, man, I don't be knowing what's still folks, man. Because you responded to me and then you deleted it. I was like, oh, I don't want to be involved in these troll games. That's what I took from that.

You had second thoughts. Like, I don't want my brand to be associated with arguing with Adam 22 about gay shit. Why he keeps, bro, stop saying that word. That's what I'm saying that. I think that's what you were thinking. Man, hey, people take that word offensive, man. When you can say that, man, you got to stop saying. Just gay?

Like, Desasty? We can call it a lot of different things. Man, why we keep talking about that, though? Well, I'm just trying to get past this whole little thing we had with. Man, we ain't had no thing. It wasn't a passing up, man. So yeah, straight, yeah, good. Yeah.

Hell yeah, we straight, Rima. This guy's. What the fuck? Ah This man crazy as hell So O'Block Louis Just recently did like a Vlad TV Shout out Lou d'all.

Mm-hmm So he, yeah, yeah What's your relationship like, like? He's a real one. Bro, he's a real one, bro. Yeah. Real. He ain't really been coming around

O'Block since all that. Is he kind of more ducked off now? We still see Lou dame. So. Still. Yeah, he's talk to him. That's my point. He's like he recovering good, though, and shit.

That was good to see him doing. He's a strong dude. He just has a lot of paper hearts, bro. For real. Speaking of dissing, though, because you just say you don't be dissing, you did disc Chando orondo on the song. I forgot.

What you said? He only dissed out of town. 4K. Trey out of town. I don't be dissing nobody, bro. You disquando. I forgot what you had said. Man, so how did I diss somebody if you forget?

Tell me what I did. Hold on. You were burning that rags in the video. That's a pretty significant statement. Tell me. I can find it. You said I was what? You were burning green rags in the video and shit.

I like that, though. That was the fourth-hand trade-in-story. I'm kind of like that, too. I take it easy on the L.A. shit. Then was a razz. Then was incense. It was like incense. Incense.

Yeah. Green incense. You must think I'm retarded. No. I just think you believe whatever you be in. Just like you told me about Trappler-Ross, and I'm like, what the fuck? And that's why I got to stay watching my trap-low-rooss shit so that I can have all these facts in the back of my mind ready to go. That's my college tuition

I work right there watching trapboard What's your favorite YouTube channel for Chicago lore Um Soobox baby There's some lore there Subbox baby I found it but I ain't even going It was definitely

Found the lyric It's kind of like It was actually on a song you do with Dio Sommel You was like They called his homie he was screaming No It was like the little Paul up. You know what I'm talking about?

I was talking about something that happened in life. Well, people were speculating that you were talking about Kwanda. Nah, man, I want to talk about nobody. I was talking about some shit I saw before. I saw some shit where I was in the motherfucking food cafeteria in the mall. Two homies was together, getting some food. One of them dropped this food. And the motherfucker was like, no. That's what the fuck I heard.

Oh, word. So it was a cafeteria fight. I went even a fight. It was just an accident that happened. you good you're funny as hell let me ask you this though so with that being said though news had broke that the final bullets that actually could have killed king Vaughn actually probably came from the police officers

in that Kwondo or Lil Tim probably didn't have anything to do with it you think that like changes anything or like your mind stayed on the situation and shit like could you ever get over it you know what just the scenario of the situation

that happened, they were saying that the police probably accidentally shot the fatal bullets that killed Vaughan. That was just circling in the news. That's what you heard? It was in the news, yeah. I ain't never really, I went there, so I can't tell you nothing about the situation. I just know who lost the legend, that's all. So I don't really know nothing about that.

I don't really know nothing about it. Yeah, I feel that. So what are you working on? What do we need to know about, my shoebox, baby? Um, yeah, we're taking the kids. We take it, we take it 20 kids from, um, Parkway. We're taking them to Africa this summer right before school. We have another, I'm having my second toy draft this Christmas.

I'm having a, another turkey draft for Thanksgiving. The project dropping between the middle or the end of the summer. What else? More music. A lot of music. Where are you getting the money to take $20? 20 kids after. That's what I was about to ask you.

Got a lot of money. Pastor Cory Brooks, he helping. Where it's really him. I'm helping him out. Like, I'm going to go help chaperone, the kids. You say, yeah. There's a lot of people in the world that really, really mess with, like, mess with, like,

that make Oboloc great again thing. Like, a lot of people want to see, like, the neighborhood being great. Why not? So take some kids who probably never been outside of the gates. It's a whole not a place where they're really from. For the people watching this interview, is there anywhere for them to donate to help out with the calls?

Follow past the court books on Instagram. His name on Instagram is past the court of Brooks. All right, for sure. Follow his journey. DM them. Ask how you can help. Let me know when you do a torture route, too. I want to send some money for that.

I bet for sure. Yeah, I'm going to have a flashlight. Y'all got to come, though. Oh, a different type of toy, right? Okay, sorry. This guy's scared. Man, what did you know? Bro, we talk about some kids and some fun.

I got some sponsors. Okay, it's a different type of toy, right? Good point. What the fuck? I'm getting a little edgy with that one. Okay. Man, no one. I'm good at Chicago, man.

I'm in Chicago, man. I'm in Chicago once home, man. Don't bring him for soul. Don't bring him. He already been, though. Yeah, but I know that. I'm going back now. You're going to come out there.

I'm just going to invite you to the event but no you are out of talking about I'm going out there I'm going out there I'm going to do a video with Whiskey Do you support that?

What the fuck is he talking about man? Well I mean Not like I mean you might not know him or whatever Is it a video with Whoever you doing a video with Is it helping your family It's helping the internet

It's gonna help a lot of people Blow off steam watching this content Does the internet help you Yeah That's what made me If you helping If the internet helping you Help your family

I'm supporting it Okay. So Shubach Baby says do the Whiskey vlog. Can we link up? I just said Do whatever to take care of your family. That's how the fuck I see. I ain't say nothing about it. No, I don't even know what the fuck of Husky is. You don't?

No. Oh, I got some links I'm going to send you. This links is crazy. Wait until you have this computer song. No nothing about it. It's a whole thing. No nothing about it. I don't know that guy. Okay.

So you got any music? You dropping soon? Mm-hmm. What you got coming out? I got a single coming out this Friday, May 15th, called What Happen? What happened to that boy? Huh? Not like that. What the fuck he talked about?

You don't know that something? Yeah, that's the Wayne. That's Lou Wayne? Yeah, and fucking push a T in them. Yeah, that's probably the old Wayne. I don't know all Louis and shit, but I know a lot of Louang shit, though. For sure. Yeah, it might be clips.

What happened to that, boy? What I was just telling you, we was just watching the motherfucker, Louang. one of them videos in him recording in the studio yeah you gotta come

to do that live from Melrose freestyle man man I think that's the cliff

he was talking shit I put a cabin to that boy that's just so hard they had to shoot the video

twice they lost the footage after the show at the first time smoked the whole grabber leaf child

man I'm like a hassle man yeah yeah you brought the graba to the rack yeah

it's been big for a long time because I was think of that as a New York thing. Yeah, I feel like Chicago need to, I love grobba. Like Chicago, they need to, they need to tap here to grope. So that's all I'll be smoking. They be giving me cat packages and shit.

I've been giving out to, like, people, the smokers in my community. What's the most popular strain in the rack? Grabber leaf. That's not, that's not weed. It's a strain called grabber. There's a strain called grabber. I could be very confusing. It would be like if there's a strain called fentany.

I don't know about that I don't know about Roblo I need something to make me an editor every time that you said like I don't know about that or like I've never heard of that No none about it

Every time he denies involvement I need a clip of that I'll put together That's how you handle The interrogation room No nothing about it Yep You don't know none about that

My lawyer knows nothing about it For show All right shout out shoot box baby We appreciate you coming through You know that Keep grinding man you're gonna you're gonna be the man

he's gonna be the the face of the city if he's not already I feel like yeah shoot by his behavior meant for greatness we can go back

to these interviews and be like look at the creation of a legend I think they'd be liking like when me and you do videos though

because I remember the last one we did I think I was looking in the comments a lot of people was like man they got energy they don't be liking them boring ass

the boring ass interviews man you have a lot of a lot of us coming this bitch tough as hell over high yeah

that's a problem all right appreciate you man thank you to Remo for co-hosting everybody go get your dirkios on Brody

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