No Jumper - Skrilla on Being The Face of Zombieland, Ot7Quanny Beef, Meek Mill & More

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

Skrilla easily gives one one of the most entertaining interviews while talking about his upbringing in Philly, describes Zombiland, house arrest, friendship with YNG Cheese, and more. ----- Get the l...atest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, no jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm having to sit down with somebody who, you're the only rapper who could cause me to take a break from the future album that I've been listening to over and over for the past few weeks. This is one of my favorite rappers coming out of Philly. I feel like this is one of the rawest rappers I ever heard. And you funny as hell. I've only been around you for a couple minutes.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I feel like we've known each other for a long time already. Scrilla is in this. Yes, me. What's going on? Hey, yo, but who the person you got to take a break from, though, listen to me? Future. Future. You know the future in Metro Boomin album?
Starting point is 00:00:40 That's big bro. That's big bro. I mean, I really brought me back into, like, my future fandom. That's big bro. That's big bro. Future, that's my dog. Yeah, but I don't know. I had to take a break to listen to the moody scrylla instrumentals that you just be going crazy on.
Starting point is 00:00:56 So, what, you're just going to be hitting that every couple seconds for the entirety of this pod? You think that's going to get the pot up? I mean, I feel like it's going to be a nightmare for the editors if they have to edit it. I'll just take my one big whip it, though, so I'm going to pick my one big puff and it's going to be right. All right, we good. Oh, my God, bro. You want to know what? That is insane, though.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It just doesn't do your voice. But did you see this girl? It's this girl I know, and she might lose use of her legs due to the nitrous. She'd be ballooned out on. on her Instagram all the time. Yeah. So it gets real out here. Also, I can introduce you to Steveo
Starting point is 00:01:40 and he'll tell you to leave that shit alone too. That's crazy. I just was looking at the, though, and I'm just like, damn, yeah. I'm like, I'm gonna talk to her. I'm like, I'm gonna try to talk to her just because the way she looked, though, just so people talk about me,
Starting point is 00:01:52 but damn, that's crazy. Her leg missing? Yeah. They make it even better if I talk to her now because he'd be like, he's talking to a bitch with no legs. It's crazy. Yeah, because I feel you probably
Starting point is 00:02:02 a bunch of chicks with no legs, right? I feel like you A lot of chicks with no legs Or at least like some stumps and shit Bro Because, okay, I've been on my Kensington YouTube binge A lot of people talk about
Starting point is 00:02:18 How where they're from is fucked up Yeah You got the crown Like I think you take it Yeah, no That place is frimy Yeah Yeah, that shit really, yeah
Starting point is 00:02:29 That shit that yeah I never seen nothing like it even when I go other places I just start traveling though bro but when I go to other places bro when I be asking people like what that shit look like down there they'd be like bro nothing like
Starting point is 00:02:43 down down yeah no like that shit have you seen to get a lot worse since you were a kid and have you always been in like the same area your whole life? No yeah yeah hell yeah I've been on there since I was a kid
Starting point is 00:02:53 but every time I go every time every time I forgot what I was about to say just about Kensington and how Oh, yeah, look. Oh, yeah. They try to clean it up.
Starting point is 00:03:06 They try to clean it up every two, three years. They try to do their hardest to clean it up. And then it gets clean for like two, three months. And then it's right back to the same thing. Like, right back every time. Like right now, the mayor just was out on her yesterday. Really? The mayor down there yesterday, literally yesterday, literally today, today.
Starting point is 00:03:24 The mayor was down there this morning and looking for everybody trying to clean it up. And she got all the cops following her trying to get everybody right. I just shot a big-ass blog Down there yesterday and shit And I had posted a pickup With my gun down there the day before And I had the same clothes on that I had on the next day And the cops
Starting point is 00:03:45 Like 50 cops ran up to me It was like yo where's your gun at? Where's your gun at? Really? I just put that in the car You just missed me I just put that in the car The gun laws are pretty strict in Philly It's like New York and shit
Starting point is 00:03:58 No That crazy Yeah no they don't get We all, that's just what we do. Okay. That's what we do. But you've seen Kensington itself, like, transform over the years and become drastically worse.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, like, yeah, it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse, worse and worse, worse and worse. It ain't never been better than how it was before. It just gets worse and worse and worse and people travel from, like, people out there that's from LA and all that. Like, people, you know how people who doke fiends and they deal dope fiends in different parts said areas of the world. And, you know, sometimes they come to a moment where they're not able to get what they want. And they go on YouTube and literally search, where can I get, how do I, where can I get my fix from?
Starting point is 00:04:43 What if they got some product where they're from, but they just want to sample like a different high? Because it's probably like a little different, like every part of the country, right? Yeah, they just, a lot of people, bro, 60%, 70% of the people, the fiends is down there. I don't call them fiends though, but just so they would understand. like they actually are my friends and shit like that though but 70% of the people that's down there though they're all from different parts of the area but they literally traveled down there just to make sure they don't get sick and sometimes they end up moving down there and not never leaving because they just want to stay next to what they want right so that shit is crazy and you feel like kensington's
Starting point is 00:05:22 way gnarlier than the rest of philly like did the cops like kind of heard the people there or is it just the cops don't give a about shit though they don't give a about shit like like they don't get a about shit like at all like when I just when I just had my gun
Starting point is 00:05:37 out there before they even even all jumped up on me I just had my gun out there the day before that and the cop really seen my gun I hope now now though but the cops literally seen my gun on my waist
Starting point is 00:05:48 a biker cop and he rode by me he was like I hope you got your gun license and I just laughed at him he just kept it pushing like you don't give a fuck at all but it wasn't like that when you were younger right
Starting point is 00:06:00 like I feel like Law and Order was a lot bigger when we were younger and now it's kind of like falling off a cliff No hell yeah it was like that when I was younger But the fiends aren't weren't the fiends that They are now though Right they were actually like Clean like they were like
Starting point is 00:06:14 Actually workers and driving nice cars And like back in the day like We were like fiends will pull up Like well not I'm just say fiends Just for the video We call them J's Yeah just Jays We're gonna call them Jays
Starting point is 00:06:28 The Jays back then they'd be pulling up and Ben's these all these fresh nice-ass fresh cars and when they wouldn't have the money or whatever
Starting point is 00:06:40 we would actually rent the cars off of them and give them a bundle and we'll have the car for the whole day or two days and most of the time we just keep it and never give it back to them right and that's it but now nobody has a
Starting point is 00:06:52 like this shit is f*** up man everybody's money is just gone on the drugs like right away stuff bad because I've been watching this documentary about these homeless people in New York back in the 70s or 80s or some shit
Starting point is 00:07:04 who are like living in these tunnels under the subways and shit. And there are so much more like normal people than a lot of the homeless people you see now who are like really tweaked out with hell of scabs all over their faces and shit like that. Some of these people are probably like crackheads
Starting point is 00:07:20 but they weren't on the level that motherfuckers are on now. They probably at the same level it's just that the drugs that is down Clinton is just way different. Like, it's this new thing called alligator or crocodile trinkillizer. And that's
Starting point is 00:07:35 the shit that's like taken over. I was watching that in a Brandon Buckingham's video. It already did take over. Now they're doing it. Now they're doing a new trinkelizer called elephant trinkillazine. Zalazine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the elephant trinkalizer. Really? So but before, well, it's still out
Starting point is 00:07:52 though, but the crocodile the crocodile trinkalizer is not supposed to go inside of our skin, of the side of a human person's skin that's for crocodiles their skin is like rocks right so when they shoot the crocodile tranquilizer up it eats out of their skin and when it eats out of their skin it just keeps spreads and spread and spread it I could you want me I could show you this video or somebody I could show you like this one video
Starting point is 00:08:19 but this is crazy it makes me wonder if it's the same shit when I went to Russia like 10 years ago everybody was talking about how there was this crazy as drug called crocodile and it was like everybody was just insanely up on it out there and I wonder if it's related to this. Yeah, the tranquilizer just really just put you right to sleep though. Like that tranquilizer is made to just put you out, put you to sleep. Yeah, I saw people saying that like you kind of need the fentanyl with the tranquilizer because it's like a different high.
Starting point is 00:08:44 For sure, for sure. You need that bed for sure. You make a good. Yeah, that's the whole point. Right. Yeah, and the tranquilizer, that shit keeps those sleep for a long time so they don't got to hurry up and try to make the money to buy the next shot, though. Like, they're asleep for a good amount of time.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So by the time they wake up now they're ready to get their new shot and bang now they back to noon they sleep The whole day they're they're there in their sleep the whole day for real Yeah, holy shit shit is out of control So wait like okay, what was your upbringing like like you were coming up in this crazy ass area But what was life like as a kid? I'm gonna show you the video yeah, I'll show you the video yeah, yeah, but you say it again just being a kid like growing up in this sort of area like does you have crazy memories of what shit was like? This was fun. This was fun, bro. I enjoyed myself
Starting point is 00:09:34 growing up, bro. I had the best time of my life when I was young. Because then we were young, everybody was trapping with my age. It was 13, 12, 13, 14, 15, everybody was young. And it was way more money back then. It was way more money. And back then we were selling
Starting point is 00:09:52 domes. It wasn't Nixon anymore. It was domes. So selling drugs was just like automatic from what age? Like, once you jump off the Once you come outside, down Kensington, like, once your parents let you go outside, even if you get a second to go outside, if you get my mom, you tell your mom, I'm like, yo, I'm about to go to the park. If you're going outside, you're going to the track. Really? Yeah, and by the time you're going in, you're going in with some money.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But where were your parents on? There were normal people? Yeah, I got, I got a real good dad and a real good mom. Really? Yeah, you wouldn't even know that, though, bro. But I got it real good and I got a real good. Yeah, my mom, my mom. My mom is actually Mexican.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Oh, really? My mom, straight Mexican and my pop black. But they went to college and everything. That's how they met. Okay. And everything. My mom from Texas, my pop from Philadelphia. My mom went to Philly just to go with my dad.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And did they warn you a lot about, like, the environment that you were born in? Like, were they always trying to put you on game so that you didn't get into crazy situations? My father and my father was really on my ass. My father, I played sports. I played every sport you could think. My pop made sure I played. I was really good at basketball. So my pop made sure that I really played basketball.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I played basketball. I played AAU. I didn't travel around the world playing basketball when I was younger. Yeah, every trophy of a guy is an MVP trophy. Like, I was really good in basketball. But somehow, though, like, the streets just got to me, though, at early age. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Why do you think that was? Because you were balancing selling drugs and basketball at one point? No, no, no. I just gave it up. Oh, I just gave it up. But having not one, one, one, one shit, not having the shit that I wanted. Not having the shit that I wanted. This shit I really wanted, though.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like, and I knew how I could get it though. And that's just, you know what I mean? Right. Feel me? But so do your parents, like, really try to rein you in when you're starting to get in trouble and shit? Or were they powerless? Yeah, that shit was in, it was in anything that they could do. Like, that shit just was what it was.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That was what it was. Yeah. That's just what it was. That's just what I was on. That's just what I was. on. Definitely. Was music always part of your life too? Me rapping?
Starting point is 00:12:09 Not just like, was it the soundtrack to your childhood and shit? When you think about your childhood, what were you listening to? As a kid, kid, kid, kid, like, when meek, I used to listen to meek. Like when Meek was really like coming up and all that shit, though. Like when he was younger as a kid, I listened to Meek. everybody for fully listening to me but like when I start really like getting into my
Starting point is 00:12:32 something like into the music that I really really like my go-to would be future thug future thugs damn who my yeah oh Kodak
Starting point is 00:12:47 Kodak I'm tripping what Kodak that's my favorite artist Kodak that's my favorite artist I'm the girl's yeah that's my dog Kodak Kodak that's my favorite artists at all times though Really? Wow. Yeah. I don't think anybody better than cooking.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Why would you say that? Just when he talk about and everything about him, though, like, he authentic, though. Like, he ain't nothing. No cap. He ain't got no cap in him. He ain't got, he's sugar-cooling none. He can't. He's like the ultimate dude who became this famous rapper and doesn't really seem like he's changed. He just kind of became like a more extreme version of what he already was. Yeah, I f***-it. That's my dog. I f*** at. I f*** at.
Starting point is 00:13:26 but correct future uh thugs and um damn let me give you one more though let me give you one more but currently you though like in like for the last couple years I oh really all right oh like run all I run and locked up the last year's too right yeah yeah that's really one of my favorite I interviewed him back in the day yeah yeah all right and who else one more so yeah oh yeah chief keep of course so yeah chief keep yeah of course so yeah yeah definitely yeah um Okay, but did you always think that maybe you were going to try rapping, or when did that become a thing? No, I never thought I would have been a rapper, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You ever heard of Rico have it? No. No, he's an artist, though, from Philadelphia, though. Like, he blew up, though, real fast, though. After Meek and losing all that, he was probably kind of like the next, though. He just fell off, though. He just, like, I'm not going to say you fell off, though. He just took a break and got too comfortable, though.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And you know how shit. You know how the rap shit go. You know, everybody's rapper. So it's always a substitution. And it's hard to sustain being like a lit street rapper. Yeah. Some people can do it, but it's difficult. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So he, that's like my brother. Like we actually grew up together our home run. When I was a kid, we actually grew up together. He's one of the biggest artists in Philly. And out of nowhere, I'm just like, man, let me just try to write. Let me just give it a try. I went to the studio, I made my first song. And the engineer that I was paying and recorded me,
Starting point is 00:15:05 he was like, bro, I don't even want you to, I don't want your money, bro. I want you to finish making this song, bro. And he was like, bro, you don't want to pay me for no time. I was young, too. He said, I don't want you to, he like, just make this song for me, bro. And I finished the song that was a song called Dog Food, Skrilla Dog Food. That's probably one of my best songs I ever dropped ever in my life. Then that was my first song.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So from day one, rapping about heroin. Yeah, yeah. That's where I come from, no, bro. Like, that's all I know. That's where I come from, look. I got dope tatty on my face. Dog food tatting on my face. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, I got dog food tat on my hand and everything. Oh, fuck. Yeah, dog food. That's hard. But, I mean, that's kind of funny just because, like, you're so obviously, authentically from that shit. But heroin and, like, selling Coke and all this shit is, like, one of the most lied about things in the history of rap, right?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like, that's the one thing that's so many rappers, talk about you know that they never did it so it's kind of weird for you because it's like it's so believable from you because i know what area you're come from and also like seeing the videos and how comfortable you are around all these smokers and shit it's just kind of like what is that like like what is that like like what is that like what is that like you know i don't even know i don't even know i don't even know i ask for that shit though i don't really pay attention of artists is I don't really listen to other music for real for real yeah do you consider yourself a philly drill rapper I don't know drills foreign that's not that's not what but do you even talk
Starting point is 00:16:39 about that shit when it comes to philly or is it you're just outside of it yeah what you're saying I'm outside of the drill rap shit yeah because that shit exists but you don't consider yourself to be part of that no I want to consider myself would be a part of it though but I'm around it though like I'm in it though like I'm in this shit too like I'm not, I just don't talk about it, though. I'm in this shit and everything too, though. But my man, my man, the Jewel rapper, though. My man, you ever heard of YBC duel?
Starting point is 00:17:06 You told him you didn't. YBC do. Okay, but that's where you're from, right? YBC. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Hell no, I'm not from. I got that written now, don't I?
Starting point is 00:17:15 No, I'm not from YBC. Oh, okay. Where are you at one point? No, that's what they gang, man. That's what they gang. I ain't going to say it's a game. No, I ain't going to say it's a gang, though, because I ain't going to say it's a gang, though, because we got are like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:29 The cops is all on my... It's not a gang, it's just a rap group, though. Just like how they... Just like how they, uh, doing that shit with Yassel? Yeah. That's what... You know what I'm saying? The same type of thing.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah. Group of rappers and like people that hang out and they try to, you know, one person does something, they try to put that on the whole thing. Yeah, tape shit, type shit. They'd be doing all the gang enhancements out there and shit. People getting insane sentences for...
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah, they got them on the news and all that shit talking about some... If you were part of, you're going to jail. That was that clip that so many people seen. And the narrative was like Phillies out of control. They're really trying to rain in it now. Jesus. I felt like you were already good.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh, my God. Chase it. What the fuck is? Is this a regular day? Are you on Cali time? It's regular? Every day, bro. I get geeked up, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:29 You ever heard my song geeked up? Yeah, I know some of the vlogs and shit of you, like, just being in your neighborhood and shit, are, it's almost kind of scary what looks like it's going on with your eyes. Like, you just look like you're on another planet, dude. Yeah, no, but I'm definitely still in another, I'm owning another planet, but I'm in y'all playing there, but I see what's going on. You get around with Earth? With what? Earth. Earth's cool?
Starting point is 00:18:55 I pop out here and there, you know, just to come check y'all out, though. Yeah, all right, though. Yeah, all right, though. Yeah, all right. When did you start getting fucked up? And, like, what is that like when you're around all these people that are fucked up? But then you're just doing slightly different versions of it, right? Well, like, more of it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, the perks, I think, you know, chemically are not that different from a lot of the shit that the local jays are on, right? Say it against a one more time? Well, like, you're taking perks. and all this I assume other shit it's not that different chemically from the shit that all the jays are on right? It's the same thing
Starting point is 00:19:37 right it's the same thing. Right. It's the same thing. Fat an hour is the same thing like I'm not taking prick fat and all though like no press perks but that shit damn there's the same thing like that's the next level of perks though like
Starting point is 00:19:51 fentanyl is the next level right like when you choose to stop taking perks and you can't get it or some shit Fentanol is your next option But I ain't going out like that But a ton of people say I take perks But what they're really talking about
Starting point is 00:20:05 Is the fentanyl 30s, right? Some people take the fentanyl 30s I ain't on that though I ain't on that though You avoid those You can spot them? Yeah, I know my shit Bro, I've been doing this shit
Starting point is 00:20:15 for a long time, bro I've been doing this shit for a long time I know my shit How'd you get into doing drugs in general though Is that from a young age? Yeah, I've been getting kicked off A long time, bro I already be understanding
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm a motherfucker to be losing any mind off this shit bro like you think I lost my mind So that happened So you think I don't got all my marbles though Not gangsta though gangsters But it's hard to tell because I feel like As an artist and a rapper This whole like image
Starting point is 00:20:45 And persona and shit is fire But as a person that I feel like We're friends now It worries me a little yeah Yeah But you think I don't got all my marbles though I mean you seem like you might be kind of on the cusp
Starting point is 00:20:58 you might have a few marbles left see they're gonna kill me though for like having to laugh about somebody who's doing as much drugs as you seem to be doing hey yo but uh no that shit normal though like hang around when I hang around no that shit normal though like I've been around that shit all my life bro
Starting point is 00:21:19 I've been around that shit all my life bro I've been around with the jays all my life bro like that's just like then I'm a jay too. But you have a different relationship with them right because it seems like a lot of people would just ignore them or never want to be on camera with them or whatever but you seem like super comfortable in that environment. Yeah no they actually my friends bro they actually watch me grow up and it's crazy fucked up for the whole fuck fucked up thing is uh uh since I'm in chanpping since I was a young boy since I was chapped 12 13 14 I actually watch they actually
Starting point is 00:21:54 watched me grow up. I've been serving 80% of them since I was a kid and now I'm just a little bit older and they see me and they hate to see me. Actually, they actually watch me grow up, bro. They actually watch you grow up. Literally though, bro, literally.
Starting point is 00:22:10 They actually see me every single day. Every single day now. It's just I pop out here and here. Do you look down on them? I don't know. You feel like you're on the same level to a certain extent? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I don't feel like I'm on the same level, but I feel like you sympathize and empathize Like they're my friends bro They're my friends bro I actually like really grow with them I actually have real relationship with them I have old stories with them like I'm really like
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's it I don't know you gotta come down I gotta bring you to Kensington one day bro I'm down I'm like really like a fucking I'm the face of zombie land You definitely are I remember I used to be in Philly all the time In like 2007 2008 and it's like the version of Philly I remember
Starting point is 00:22:56 and then when I see what it looks like in a lot of your vlogs and videos and shit I'm just like holy fuck this is like what Philly used to be like times 10 Kensington always been fucked up though bro a lot of people to go a lot of people to go visit Philly Kensington is like a no-go zone bro like people don't go down there
Starting point is 00:23:16 and I guess most of the people that's from Philly never even been down Kensington crazy thing you know it's like nothing You're down there unless you're going to get drugs or you're doing something that you're not supposed to be doing. I was seeing a vlog where one of the community activist type dudes, he was saying that it's literally the most dangerous place in America or the most fucked up place in America right now. Yeah, you can say both. It's fucked up and dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You can say that. You can say that. Really? Yeah, you can say that for sure. So now that you're popping, though, do you kind of keep your distance? Are you still around, like, all the time? I don't even feel like I'm popping right now. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. I feel like I ain't even reach where I'm supposed to. to reach at all. Like, I feel like I'm like, fucking 20% where I'm supposed to be right now. Not even. I'm probably like, just a hell about, like, you just made me hit my 20% mark. No, but I feel like you're at the level where, like, all the time now I'm, like, talking to people about you and, like, different people that I know, even out here, are starting
Starting point is 00:24:14 to be like, hey, you heard of him? Like, check this shit out. Check this video out. And, like, the dudes I know who really be listening to, like, what's going on in rap, they're like definitely getting put on on like a very consistent basis right now yeah no my shit definitely going up right now though and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:24:29 knowing about me bro and I got a hard time like I got a real hard time being in contact I got a hard time communicating really yeah I don't know what it is that's just something about me though bro I got a hard time communicating I don't I don't use my resources
Starting point is 00:24:46 and I don't communicate like I can really actually like you might hit me up on Instagram bro I just don't communicate good, bro. I don't know how to explain it. I just got a hard time communicating. You're just kind of antisocial or? You could call it that, though, but I don't even know what it is, though.
Starting point is 00:25:07 You mean like the shit that you're kind of like expected to do as a rapper, like in terms of doing social shit going out to events, popping them networking with other rappers, media companies, etc? Yeah, I got a hard time doing that shit mentally. eventually I just don't do it. I don't know what's wrong with me. Why I don't do it, though? But I got people that be checking me, though,
Starting point is 00:25:28 and I'd be like, damn, I gotta start doing that shit, though. Are you like a lab rat when it comes to the music? Are you just always recording and shit? Yeah, all day, every day, every day. I just took a little break, though, for, like, two months, though, because, like, that shit was getting a hold of me, though, like, because I can't make music without getting fried. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, like, every song I ever made, I was fried, literally, and I got thousands of the songs. Literally, I got literally a thousand of songs, bro. A thousand, a thousand. I got a thousand songs. So you can't imagine making music without being fucked up.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I can't. I can't. Really? It just doesn't work? It just won't come out. I just can't rent. Damn. It's always been like that
Starting point is 00:26:09 or it slowly got like that over time? It always been like that. Really? It always been like that. So how does that make you feel about music? Like maybe you need to step back from music to get your help for it? That's why I took.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah. But I still do without going to the studio, but I took a two-month break just so I could, like, kind of, like, get my head together and, like, tighten up a little bit, though, bro. But that's the fucked up thing about that shit, though. I feel like I can't make music unless I'm proud. Do you feel like the more fucked up you get, the better the music gets? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, hell yeah. Damn, it's got to be a crazy spot to be kind of stuck in. I know for sure, like, when I take certain type of drugs, it's like the cheek is it giving me cheek clothes. Really? Like, oh shit, he ain't fucking with that shit. No, he's got an attitude problem with this fucking dog. Like, if I fucking, like, if I take, I take, I take a fucking, I ain't trying to get it, I ain't trying to get everybody a cheat coob, but if I take, you ever heard of a G6?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, yeah. I take a G6, bro, and fucking, I got a whole bunch of them in my pocket right now. What's it? Oh, shit. G6s is. They glow in the dark and everything. Wow. It's a G6.
Starting point is 00:27:20 If I take that shit, bro, and I go to the studio, bro, I'd be saying shit that I didn't even know I knew, though, bro. Like, that shit crazy word. Like, I'd be saying shit. Like, I'd say a word. Like, just say a word. Just give me a smart word. Poodle. Yeah, like, I'll say, my poodle in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And then I look at on Google and I ain't even know what poodle mean. And I'd be like, damn, I said the right shit. Like, what the fuck? G6 mean me smarter shit. Oh, what? So are you, like, listening to the songs the next morning, and it feels like you're listening to songs from a fucking crazy person you don't even know? No, like.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Or you know him. It's like your crazy uncle. Yeah, like, I'll make a song, bro, and I don't think it's hot. Then the next day, when I listen to it, I'd be like, what the fuck? Bro, I'm better than a fucking my favorite artist. Really? Yeah, real shit, no bullshit. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Damn. So, but when you take that time off from making music, does that feel like you're separating yourself from a loved one? Like a lot of rappers I know seem like they would have a hard time taking a month away from recording. Yeah, I feel like when I took my break, like I'm just now getting out of my break a couple days ago. Bro, after I just took my break and then I've been in the studio lately,
Starting point is 00:28:41 I feel like I lost a little bit of my talent. Like I got to start sharpening in my pencil and getting my shit back, right? Really? And like really getting my shit together so I could get back to how I was rapping before. Right. Damn, bro. That's crazy. So who are the first people to recognize your talent in terms of locally or other rappers or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Like some people that I, like, looked up to, like, some of the big artists that I... Yeah, because I notice you tapping in with a lot of people and working with a lot of bigger artists. And they seem like they're reaching out, right? Yeah, like, one of the people that got me early in my career, though, like, even though, even nowhere in there far, though, but a couple of the people, but it got me early in my career was um little uzy vert right the uzy vert that's my dog I fought with vert so that's what I really wanted
Starting point is 00:29:32 to ask is what's up with this video that I watched this you and uzi song and it got taken down right yeah what's up with that uh when I was with vert though after we did the song when we did this like I don't know if it was him or not though because we got a good relationship so I'll be fucked up if it if it was him though bro
Starting point is 00:29:53 that should have hurt me though if it wasn't because I really fuck with her and I got good relationship with him. I love her though like just he ain't he didn't even have to do the shit that he did for me though like he ain't have to do nothing of that shit he did for me he did a lot
Starting point is 00:30:07 right like we did more than one songs shot the video and everything and he did a lot and he told me like I asked him like you know my cool to he said yeah that's green light green light but fucking I don't know it might be the label if they don't feel like it got
Starting point is 00:30:23 Clear it from or whatever. The label hit me up. The label hit me up and told me like, yo, you got to take it down. And fuck, y'all, y'all got to take that shit down yourself. And that's what they did, though. Really? But. Did you reach out to him and ask him what's going on?
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, but I was supposed to link up with him out in New York, though. Not too long ago, I just never went. But I don't know, though. I don't know. I don't know. I'm my own man. He's my own man. I probably would have that shit if somebody.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I don't know. What the fuck? I don't know. I don't know. I fuck with her, though. That's a hard song. And he has like two big long-ass verses and it's like- Yeah, that shit was at 700K in six days. Really?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Oh, it was only out for like a week? Yeah, it was only out for six days. Wow. It was at 700 and the same K. But I ain't tripping by that shit, though. Like, I fuck with Rick, though as a person, though. As a person and as in as a rapper, it's two different things, though. I don't really, I'm not tripping about that shit, though.
Starting point is 00:31:16 When I see him, I ask him about it, though, but I ain't tripping by that shit. I fuck with her, though. I fought with Rick, though. Right. I fought with Ray. He's from Philly. He made it out, though. The video's still out there.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It's just like the fans. A little bit harder for him to find it, right? Yeah, I know. I don't even give a fuck about that shit, though. I fuck with her, though. I'm glad to even have a song in a video on my phone where I could watch myself. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. You were getting loaded with Uzi? No, actually, no. Nope. Because, you know, not to put his personal shit out there, though, but, you know, bro, on probation. Oh, really? Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:31:51 yeah i don't want to put his business out there if he don't want me he's talked about drugs a lot but then he's also talked about going to rehab and getting clean and shit yeah yeah that's what he on i don't know i don't know what he's that these days is yeah yeah i don't know though i don't really want to put his personal new shit out there though but i fuck with her though that my dog for real for real for real that my dog right is it uh like on a philly level though that's the other thing i was thinking is it possible that you guys did the song together and then he figured out that maybe you got on exactly fuck with the same people
Starting point is 00:32:21 Or is that, am I reaching with that? Me and Virt, just like, though. Like, we are our own person. We ain't, we, we, he ain't on no, he ain't on new gang bang and shit, none of that type shit. And I ain't on new gang bang. Like, I'd be fucking with something like, I don't know, bro. I don't know, though.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But Verre's own person, I'm my own person, though. I fuck with Virt, though. Philly's super political, though, right? In terms of, like, who people can work with on some street type of? Yeah, hell yeah. But I do the fuck I want, though. ain't nobody gonna tell me shit, bro. Ain't nobody gonna say another time.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I didn't work with niggas ops and all that. I don't know. I do what the fuck I want, bro. I do what I want, bro. Ain't nobody can tell me shit. I'm like really one of them down there for a little, bro. You ain't nobody gonna tell me shit. No, definitely.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Okay, so I guess my... Just to go back to the sort of the life story type thing, do you drop out high school or do you finish high school? No, I'll graduate high school. Okay. Yeah, I ain't had no choice. I was in house arrest for two and a half years. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:25 For what? I had six dope cases. Oh, shit, really? Yeah, I had six heroin cases. Yeah, I had six dope cases. I was on house arrest for two and a half years. Only reason they let me stay on house arrest is because I was smart. Like, I had good grades.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I ran across country and all that shit. I played ball. Like, I was like, really, somebody for real, for real. My, the principal was to the school and all that shit came to my court dates and made sure I didn't go to and jail and that shit. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Wow. That's a lot of attention. I feel like they probably got so many kids to worry about. That's crazy. They went to your court date. Yeah, yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And my pop, my pop, my pop, my pop made sure, like my, I had an, you know, it's different too. You got a father in your life, too. My pop and my mother, they both coming, you know, a lot of people don't got that mother
Starting point is 00:34:13 and their father in their life. My pop and my mother made sure that they came to my shit. And the judge looked at me, different type of way. How do you have parents feel about where you're at right now? I know they're happy, but like, they don't know. Like, they're more focused on me being, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:34 I don't even not explain it. Like, uh, this is, this, this, this is considered bad than them. Not to my mom. My mom, my pop really wants me to be like a fucking lawyer and tell you shit, though, like my pop, a real good pop. Like, he really, like, on my hat. You know what I'm saying? You still got hope that you can just be a normal person?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, yeah. Do you have that hope or do you feel like you're already like, you're just either going to be a rapper or a criminal? Nah, I ain't a criminal, but I'm already burnt out, though. I'm already burnt. You don't think you can handle being a lawyer? I don't know. That's a very different lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I could really see you being a lawyer. But I'm only seeing like this version of you. I don't know if, like, you know, people do make abrupt. changes in their lives. I've had friends who were getting fucking loaded for 10 years. And then one day they just caught a case where they had to get piss tested and all of a sudden they just
Starting point is 00:35:30 stopped doing drugs and just totally changed their fucking life. Hey yo, what's up with Adam? Hey, yo, I seen Adam with the Speedos on here. I see Adam. I'm never going to live that down. I see Adam with the spitos on like this, yeah. Like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 That's my April Fool's prank. No, I don't know. That's that's not a homosexual. I don't know. Straight as a hero. I don't know. You can still take me to the block in Philly even after the Speedo photo shoot? Yeah, you with me, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You're with me, bro. Okay. You with me, bro. Anybody's gonna never try you while you with me, bro. I'm not gonna be wrapping my arms around the homeless people like you, though. Bro, why you got to look at them like that, bro? And I just watch you in the video. I'm like, bro, you can't just be rubbing on them and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Like, that's my family. You ever smash an unhoused person? A woman? When I was like a kid, though, like, when I was like a kid. Like, I told you, though, bro. Back then, they wasn't burnt out like now. Like, I ain't smashed nothing like that, though, bro. Like, it's, it's, like, back then they was on these shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:38 They was on these shit, bro. Like, they was on these shit, bro. But maybe it was because you were younger and you didn't have the taste in women that you have now. Yeah, I guess you can see that, too. You can see that. But I wasn't just random. around swinging dick to all the jays though you're like i ain't one of them no bro once in a while you know the feelings right the g6 hitting right
Starting point is 00:37:00 oh my god that's so fucking funny bro um you know yeah they say this look like you right here bro uh oh they're all in the comments this is what they call the m 22 right here oh shit that is definitely a drug addict. I fuck with him now. He's got his eyes rolled in the back of his head and shit. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:27 That definitely does kind of look like me. What the fuck? What's this? When you throw that up, what's that? Kensington. That's Kensington? Holy shit. This guy's in rough shape. Poor bastard.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But you ever feel bad? Because, like, you know, you're the guy who kind of sold him the shit that got him like that, right? Not right, man. At least, like, you know, at one time. not maybe not him, but like at some point in time, you were the guy who was, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:01 I feel like every pusher at a certain point, you got to kind of deal with the feeling of like, damn, I got this person to this point. They got me to this point too. I got to this point too. Damn, I'm trying to show you this video, bro. The way they be looking down there, bro, how their hands look, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:21 How the crocodile trinkalizer eats out of their skin and all that shit, bro. Right. This shit crazy, bro. But do you got hope for these people or for your area or in your mind? Is it just like, it's over? It's just what it is, bro. It ain't no changing that shit, though, bro. Like this.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Look at this shit, bro. This down Kinnitus. Zombie land. Well, they just got a fire going on the ground? Mm-hmm. What's the fire for? There's fire everywhere, bro. So they don't get cold.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Holy shit. I'm going to text this to myself so we could put in the video. And so you can have my number. Yeah, I'm a key number of one of the J's out there. But you feel like the gap between you and them is like slowly closing sometimes? What you mean? Like you could just end up kind of like being more on their side than the side that you're currently on. I hope not, bro, but I would never do certain things, though, that it make me that.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Like, well, I do, though, but like, nah, I don't. I don't know. I hope not, bro. You feel like you know the line that you need to not go over? I do, bro, but I hope not, though, bro. You need these people that, these people that's like that, bro, and you just say when it was like 22, 23, and be like, yo, bro, when I'm 30, I'm a beat. Like, you know what I'm saying? I hope not, though, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Well, that's a crazy thing. When I'm watching these vlogs films, like, in the hood there, it's like a lot of these homeless people have, like, plans in their head for how they're going to get out of this and how they're going to be something at some point. But it's like they're all just like waiting for the perfect moment to escape. But realistically, the drugs just keep getting more and more powerful with these generations that goes by and it keeps getting harder and harder for people to like find a way to slip out of that.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. It ain't no coming out of that shit, bro. For most people, yeah. Yeah, it's just deaf. There ain't no coming out of that shit, bro. Right. I mean, if you do, though, you're still going to be, you're still going to be a certain way, though.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Like, that shit, that shit fucked up, bro. That shit fucked up, though, bro. That shit fucked up. I don't even really know how to explain that shit. That shit fucked up. This is the fucked up part, just kind of how you're so numb to the experience that a lot of these people are having, and you just have kind of given up hope for a lot of them?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, I ain't numb. no bro I'm not numb to it I'm not numb to it though bro like that shit hurt me sometimes too like I actually seen people I just was crying though like two weeks ago bro I just seen somebody that I actually grew up with that was really like hanging out with me
Starting point is 00:41:14 every day like one of my friends and I was walking by and I was big taking a video with a couple people and I seen him in the corner just tripping out shaking skits and going crazy and I seen him and I'm looking at him like damn what the fuck you're doing bro and it was actually like one of my friends
Starting point is 00:41:34 like somebody that was really getting money back in the day and I seen them bro that shit fuck me up bro that shit fucked me up bro that shit hurt my heart and just knowing that there's nothing that you could do to make him jerk himself out of the situation and all I can do is give him a couple dollars and he's gonna go back and do the same shit though that shit hurt me bro
Starting point is 00:41:53 damn that should hurt me it's a lot of people I got a lot of friends that I grow with Bro, that was making money with me and doing stuff. And that shit fucked up, bro. That shit fucked up. Damn. Look at the whole, I don't know. I'm going to show you something right here.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I feel like you're, okay. Look at this. Look at this hand, bro. Look at her hand. Look. Oh, well. It should be stupid. Oh, yeah, play it.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It's the ear freezing. Hold on a look. Just leave a letter play. Oh, my God. Oh, fuck. This is smaller, though. It's a lot of. other shit like that, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:44 See, this is the shit that they can't put on YouTube in terms of like, it's just basically like a woman's hand that is like almost like rotten. Like, you can see like red like cracks in her skin and it's all green and scaling. It's a zombieing. She's like not even bothering to cut her nails or nails are super long and shit. That's just one out of a thousand, bro. What the fuck. That shit, that shit hurt sometimes too, though, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Right. Yeah, like that shit hurt. Like, just talking about that shit. That shit hurt a little bit, though, too, bro. You might not tell, though, but that shit really hurts sometimes, too, bro. You get hate from people because they feel like you're using that shit as, like, marketing. I'm not using it. I'm not using this.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'm not using this. I'm showing my real life, bro. That's really where I came from. I watched this scene this year all my life, bro. The more successful you become and the more further that you get away from, like, being on the block every day, the more that people are going to be like he's using this shit. No, I'm never going to leave a block. I'm never going to leave a black, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I can't have a trillion dollars, bro. I'm going to be down there. bro. I'm gonna be down there, bro. Every, I'm gonna be down there, bro. Every time. I don't go nowhere else. When I'm in Philly, I don't do nothing else, but stay down, Kensington.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You can ask my brother where I'm at all day. Kensington. I don't leave Kensington. But the bigger your name gets, the more you're at risk being in that environment, right? I'm gonna be in Kensington. I promise you, bro, you give me a billion dollars. I'm still going to be in Kensington. I might travel, come over here.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Once I leave him from here and I go back to the Philly, bro. my first place is Kensington That's just where you're comfortable at That's where I'm from, that's home So you think if you move to L.A. and you got a big house And you, you know
Starting point is 00:44:20 Had palm trees outside You can go to the beach That wouldn't really do it for you No It would though, bro But I'm always going to... It'd be fun for a little while, but that's just like a little vacation to me, bro
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm always going to come back to Clinton That's just where I'm from, bro That's where I'm always going to be there, bro right from bro there's niggas out there the niggas is out there trapping for me bro the niggas protect me i don't need i come i'll go out there and i'm and i got my shit on me and all that and i got my niggas with me that's gonna blow shit for me bro but i don't even need a gun when i'm out there bro
Starting point is 00:44:54 a nigga woke up to me wrong bro i just a thousand niggas is going run down there i'm i really wanted them down there bro for real though bro i ain't even gonna i'm really like that for real for real for down there for real no boy shit respect i'm really one of them was that was like a little baby one yeah like depending on where you're at
Starting point is 00:45:18 you take a different amount no it's just for y'all so you ain't got to cut a big part they don't got to cut a big portion out of it I'm just have them blur it every time they can just listen in I can't get on the moral high road though because I had
Starting point is 00:45:34 you gotta hit it one time bro for the camera bro you got it one time bro you got it one time bro there's one time for the camera bro You got it one time. Just tilt it to the side or what? Just twist it. Twist it this way.
Starting point is 00:45:46 You're gonna be offended if I rub this off? No, for sure. I do every time when somebody else it is. I twist it and then just suck like this. Don't know. Whoa. There no ditty. No ditty.
Starting point is 00:45:54 No ditty. No ditty. No ditty. Uh-oh. Don't do no sucking. Bro. That was out. That was that.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Twist it more. Adam, you know what the fuck that shit is, bro. You did it like you know what you did. He didn't. He know what it is. You're. I only ever done it out the balloon or the little cartridge thing. I never,
Starting point is 00:46:16 I never did it like. See, my voice turning all crazy. Like you, I sound like Cardi. What's going on? I'm going to start the opium with this voice. You know what the fuck that shit is. So everybody at home can kind of review my behavior right now. Okay, now I'm feeling it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 All right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, one more, though. One more. You're 22. One time. You add him 22, you got hit two two. Two two.
Starting point is 00:46:41 One time is like, oh, all right, he's just giving it a shot. You got to hit it two times. No, by that logic, I got to hit it. 22 times and then I'm gonna die. All right, but 2-2, Joe, just one, 2-2-2. Why am I letting this junkie fucking convince me to do this shit? God damn it. You better blur my ass so bad, Michael.
Starting point is 00:46:59 All right, now you add a 22 now. I overdid it. I did it too fat. What the fuck? How the fuck am I letting him do it? You add him 44 now. Adam 44. I'm gonna torch my whole reputation.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I'm supposed to be like Charlemagne, bro. I'm supposed to be at the BLM rally. I'm supposed to be on some bullshit, bro. I'm supposed to be like helping to change the community, he not just getting down with him. Sure to me. God damn it. There's so much worse than it looks, too, because I'm watching his home.
Starting point is 00:47:27 He hit it, like, way more times than you. You keep that shit on you every day? Yeah, I just butt this shit from my hair. Oh, so you had to land in the plane, and then you already had a spot picked out? Yeah, I got my black took driver. I got my black truck driver. He's driving. Oh, that guy's the driver.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, damn, he's really lit if he got this dude over here. Holden the thing for him. But that's the driver, okay. Oh, no, that's my brother. Not him. I'm talking about the driver.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I can see why you guys have such a fucking issue with this, too, though, because you do it once or twice, and then you're like, oh, yeah, I could definitely keep doing that. And that's for you. Because one time I was with YSL Duke at the YSL mansion back in the day, a couple years ago before the Rico and everything, I seen him go through a whole fucking case of Whippets. while recording one verse.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, free thug, free thug, free thug, free duke. Free thug, too, yeah, free thug. I dropped the whole song called Free thug. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay, there's one thing I wanted to ask you about is when I was listening to your most recent tape, there's a song called Long Live Cheese,
Starting point is 00:48:40 and I didn't realize that you had a real relationship with Gilly's son who got killed maybe a year ago or six months ago or so shit like that. How did you know him, and what kind of person was he? I was in the fucking, um, that's crazy thing, though. I was in the studio. I started recording. It was a nigga that, it was a nigga that run it,
Starting point is 00:48:59 running his car is out. He rented his own cars out. Okay. And he told me like, yo, I got my own studio. Bang, so I started renting cars from him. Then I started recording over there. And my whole plan was to rent cards from him and take one of his cars. So we,
Starting point is 00:49:20 end up going to the studio, boo, I end up seeing cheese there, and I'm like, damn, what's up cheese? Hold on, first start, let me start it all over. Let me start it all over. First, I used to play basketball with cheese back when we were kids.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I used to play basketball with cheese. Cheese was good at ball. I used to play basketball with cheese when we were young boys. Bang. Then I started, but later on, though, I started running the car from somebody and he owned his own studio.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So I'm running in the cars, bang, and he had his own studio, and he was already back in cheese. He was already putting money behind cheese, helping cheese with his own little shit. Him and his brother Mac. Did you always know he was Gilly's son? No, I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Really? He kept the kind of low-key? Yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, they never really liked it to just say like, yo, yeah, I'm doing it. They wanted to build their own name. Right, right. So, because there's a couple of them is Mac,
Starting point is 00:50:14 cheese, and it's New York, L.A. Okay. She's big, too. She's big. Yeah, you got to look into her. New York, New York, L.A., she's big. She's big. She just dropped the song with Brent Fiatz,
Starting point is 00:50:25 A. Sack Rocky. Yeah, like, she's big. Yeah, like, that's my baby. I was my baby, L.A. That's my baby girl. I was with cheese at the studio at the dude that rented the cars out and shit, and we were chilling, bang.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Me and Cheese, and I'm doing a couple songs, and I had took, and I was renting the cars off of one of the dudes who owned the studios and I took one of his cars and I kept it. He mad at me for stealing in the niggins cars. He's like a police dog. Yeah. I was already,
Starting point is 00:51:02 I had a scenario in my head where I was like, what if Skrilla jumps out of his seat and can't handle the dog coming up to him? Because that's going to be crazy to me if you're so comfortable with the Jays, but not comfortable having a dog come sniff you. But you actually seem kind of comfortable with us. I got two huskies. I got two Siberian Huskies. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah. Nice. But fucking, I was in the studio with cheese for the last couple days, though, like, in the studio where the dude who ran cars out, and he had the studio. I was in the studio for the last couple days. We were in the studio making songs back-to-back, boom, boom, boom. But before we even made our first song, the bull who runs the car out, he was asking me, like, yo, you could do a song with cheese.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I looked at him like, bro, cheese is my fucking man. I do a song with cheese. Fuck, if you ask me, bro, if cheese asks me, I'll do a song with cheese all day. So me, I'm cheese that a song, bang. And the nigga who, um, I was renting a car from after we did our songs, boo-boo-boo-bo-boom. I took one of the dudes' cars and I kept the car.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And I never, and I never gave it back to him. I was driving back and forth from L.A. and the Johnny, going to the studio. L.A. and the Johnny. I was running around everywhere, doing everything in the Johnny. You were driving back and forth from Philly to L.A. Yeah, and the Johnny. Why?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Oh, and New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, and the Johnny. Like, just because this was before I signed and everything, I was spending all my money in the rapping. And I was starting to get fucked them. I wasn't trying to buy. And I just smacked my Durango out. But I got a garage where I got five smacked out cars in the garage. Why not just get on a plane? Because I don't put insurance on it.
Starting point is 00:52:39 No, to New York, to New York. Oh, oh, you're begging for it. Okay. Yeah. I got five cars that I smacked out inside a garage. Shout out my man Dennis. He got all my cars in his garage. I got, I'm the first nigga in Philly
Starting point is 00:52:51 with a Fisker karma. Why don't you get insurance? I just, a dick kid. I'm just a dick kid. You got a hard time thinking about the future? Yeah, I just, just in the moment.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah. You ever heard of a Fisker Karma? No, what's that? I got a Fisker karma and I wrapped in orange and it's an electric and gas car. When the sun out, it collects solar, it's got a solar panel on the roof
Starting point is 00:53:15 where it collects energy where it would never die. And it collects gas. too. Fisker Carmen, bro. Holy shit. It's the highest car. And I got two charges in there. I got a caddy truck. I got a whole bunch of cars in the garage that I smacked out. Just doing dick hair
Starting point is 00:53:31 shit. But fucking but fuck all that shit though. Me and Cheese did a couple songs together. And then I said to say that shit happened, though. That shit happened. And I was just about to drop my my tape, album tape,
Starting point is 00:53:49 whatever you want to call it, Underworld. And I'm the first, and I'm the person that started that dark music, that dark sound. Like, you literally tuned into this in my music. I'm the first person that started that dark. Very dark. Yeah, I'm the first person to start. And then on top of that, I'm talking about my religion, my Areeches and everything. Like, I'm talking, I'm, like, that's really my, I started that shit.
Starting point is 00:54:11 But fucking, uh, while I was putting my, I opened my tape together. cheese had died two, three days before that. And I'm like, yo, I got to put cheese on there just to keep his name alive and everything. You know, I just felt some type of way and I just wanted to put cheese on there. And my tape, I was trying to drop my tape the next three, four days. But I had to get it clear. You know, I had signed. So I had to get it clear through somebody that cheese, so-called manager or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So I was trying to contact everybody. I was trying to contact Gilly, Wallow. I was talking to New York, L.A. Gilly daughter. I was talking to everybody that I knew from cheese. And nobody was getting back to me. So we ended up getting in contact with Cheese Mother. And she just was like, yo, yeah, you could drop the song,
Starting point is 00:55:04 but we need the royalties. We need to have a certain percentage of the royalties, like 50% or 60%. And I'm like, damn, that's a lot. But I'm with whatever. Y'all can have. 100% though just because of what happened I'm doing it for him right so she end up
Starting point is 00:55:22 clearing it and doing everything and I end up being able to put cheese onto my album and that's what I really wanted so shout out to cheese though and Gilly and everybody though but that's what I really wanted though just for him though but rest of peace cheese though long live cheese though right
Starting point is 00:55:38 nah man that was that was fucked up though because he was a good person he wasn't on another he was a good dude though right he didn't he didn't deserve that shit really because that's a lot of people have kind of wondered is what kind of life was he living that, you know, might have
Starting point is 00:55:52 ended him up in that kind of situation. Nah, he wasn't even living that type of life, though. Like, he was just a regular Philly dude though, like, you know what I'm saying? You do regular Philly shit, though, like, little selling little wee, little, little, little small little shit, though, but he wasn't running out here on his little King Vind shit trying to kill her.
Starting point is 00:56:08 He was on some regular, you know what I'm saying? I was, like, I fought with cheese, though. Cheese wasn't on no John-ass shit, though. Like, cheese and real nigga, like, I fought with him. You know, he's staying in his place. Cheese, cheese, good dude. One of the things I saw that was, like, real disturbing was that, you know, it's always, like, when somebody gets killed or somebody dies, just like a competition to come up with the worst fucking thing you could possibly say about it on the internet. But a lot of people were trying to put it on Gilly and say, like, oh, you abandoned your kid or some shit as if he wasn't his own man.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Like, he didn't want to go just follow his dad around. He was trying to build his own thing, you know? Yeah, no, he definitely, they definitely ain't one of the new. Definitely, I ain't even trying to waste the fucking interview talking about somebody, but like, he definitely wasn't on that trying to be. He was trying to be his own man, though. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be my dad's dad. My dad's baby boy, you feel what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Like, like, I got a father too. I'm not trying to, I'm not, I want everybody look at me and be like, yo, there go. What's his name, dad? Like that, you know what's his name? Dad? Like that, you're even saying that he wasn't just like making a super known and talking about that being his dad, especially given the fact that his dad has become like a really fucking big deal in rap over the past however many years. That to me just makes me think like,
Starting point is 00:57:20 oh, this is a dude who was trying to carve his own path. If anything, he was probably kind of like inspired by seeing his pops be able to do it. Yeah, yeah, facts. That's exactly what he was on. No, that's exactly what he was on. He was just trying to make his own route. He definitely was trying to make his own path. That's why I really fuck with him, though.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah, he just wasn't trying to be his dad's baby boy, though. He wasn't trying to be his dad's baby boy. He wasn't trying to be no fucking King Combs. the tribunal king comes But I mean It's crazy seeing people say that shit Because that's like how What percentage of us
Starting point is 00:57:52 Taking our father's footsteps Like very very few people Just like line up behind their dad To like get into the business that he was in Yeah Only person I can know that That I can say that did that That was like
Starting point is 00:58:04 That's doing that It's like LeBryson Like Yeah Because I don't even know his name I don't even know his son name I just know that that's Yeah that's yeah that's
Starting point is 00:58:14 Brian Jr. Yeah. Right. But shit, if you don't make it into the NBA, you're going to have to figure out his own thing. And it's like he might not want it to be 100% based on his dad's fame, you know? Yeah. No, real shit, facts.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah. Yo, how long you'd be taking to drop your interviews, though, like, because somebody, one of my men did they join. My man, Prince J. did this join. You ain't never dropped Prince Trey. Yeah, we did. Oh, y'all did?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah, yeah. Oh, it ain't go up crazy, though? It did pretty good. It might have taken, like, a week or two to get it out. but I'll try to get this out within a week. We got a shitload on deck, so. Hey, yo, though, Bernardo, I seen you with the little speedos on. Yo, you be doing, yo, you be doing to the, you be, yo, you be going to the swingers clubs?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Not, not yet. Not yet. I do want to check it out, though. Oh, yo, you, you're one of them type boys. They got some popping ones out here. You're in the tape boys. Yo, what's you? Yo.
Starting point is 00:59:06 The kinky rabbit. I heard a lot about the kinky rabbit. I'm going to check the kinky rabbit out at some point. What type girls are you like, though? shit I was thinking about that the other day I don't think I got the type I like them all
Starting point is 00:59:20 You're your girl Your wife let you Your wife let you have a threesomes Yeah Yeah Oh yeah Yeah Mostly on camera
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah that's heavy We don't have to be Going out of our way To fuck too many broads off camera That's heavy I wish I wish I had You can have One of your white friends
Starting point is 00:59:35 Oh yeah for sure Yeah I knew you when you're They LA Bro I wish you were here Last week Because we went to a party Last Friday Like a big porn party
Starting point is 00:59:43 and I had all the homies in there and they never seen this many fucking bad bitches who were sex workers in their life. Like they were loving it. Yeah, you know, once I let them hit this whip they're gonna be lost of their mind. There was a room
Starting point is 00:59:57 and I had a little sign on the door and it said the drug room and you go into the room and there's just a guy sitting there with like two bodyguards and he just got a suitcase and he's like, yeah, we got these roxies, we got these Zans, we got these...
Starting point is 01:00:09 I know who you're talking about. What's the name? I don't fucking not. I didn't have this name. everybody took it. No, that's how old dude. I know exactly what you're talking about. He's like a famous drug dealer, then that's insane. Yeah, I know you're talking about, though, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I know you're talking about, bro. I know you're talking about. I didn't indulge, but I definitely seen a couple of all the homies, like, immediately pull out their phone and start memoing the motherfucker and walk out with a pocket full of candy. Yeah, I know exactly you're talking about. That is insane if you know who I'm talking about. That's crazy. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yo, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:41 You really be around. Bro, if I had you in that environment, I feel like you would have fucking started shopping. I would have took his whole suitcase. I would have took his whole suitcase. I'm assuming the guys standing next to him with shooters. Because I've been to like- Shit, I went to the shooters too. They just ain't pull up yet.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I've been to some, like, cool Hollywood parties, but I've never been to one where it was like that obvious of like, oh, hey, whatever drugs you need, go for it. Yeah. You're funny. Okay. So I wanted to ask you this. it's been in debate a lot over the past couple weeks
Starting point is 01:01:15 what is meek mill's status in philadelphia do the streets still fuck with him has this whole ditty thing put a real chink in his armor what's your thoughts i don't know why philly don't fuck with me i don't know why philly don't fuck with him like philly philly be on some weird shit philly philly a crab in the barrel city philly philly just want to bring everybody down like i could do one thing i could do one little thing And Phillies, that's the first thing they're going to do. That's all they're going to talk about is me, Skrilla, just to bring me all the way down to the bottom and make me not nobody no more. They like to see you rise, but then they like to see you crash as well.
Starting point is 01:01:56 But like literally knew Meek, I don't know, I don't know Meek personally to say like what he'd do for this, this and the third though. But personally, though, I fuck with me. Meek, a good dude though. Like all that p. Did he do all I don't believe that shit, though. Me neither. Me personally, I don't believe it, though. but me
Starting point is 01:02:13 I fuck with me Meek made it out the hood he changed laws He didn't have to change laws For dirt bikes and all He didn't have to do the shit that he did Meek already got bread though bro But I fuck with me
Starting point is 01:02:24 Though personally though I fuck with me Meek even reaches out to me And talk to me like I talk to Meek Really? I just was talking to Meek Not so long ago, yeah Like matter of fact I might to call me
Starting point is 01:02:35 Oh my God Let me see if he ain't answer That would be legendary Let me see Look at last Meek Mill What would I ever say If I got a chance to meet Mick Mill
Starting point is 01:02:48 I really don't know Nah I met Rick Rossi the other day Yeah It was kind of legendary Yeah you met Rose For the first time Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:57 At the porn awards At the what At the porn awards He was performing Yeah That's crazy I was in good with the bodyguards I knew the bodyguards
Starting point is 01:03:05 On some gangster shit So Locked right in You know Not really 100% sure How he felt about me I'm pissed time in meek. I'm about to see if you're going to answer.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I got to get meek on his drone. Yes. Yes, we do. If he'll answer, look, watch. If he'll answer, I got another way to get in contact with him. I'm going to put him. I'm getting meek on his drone. I'm getting meek on his drone.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I know that Meek is super petty because he followed academics his ex-girlfriend like a day or two ago. So that's, she's a messy one. So I don't know exactly what he got planned, but people were pointing out on the Reddit that he followed her. I'm like, oh, Lord, what's going to happen? Hold on, look, watch. I'm going to call my old hair. I might to call my dog Mike Knox,
Starting point is 01:03:54 Mike Knox. That's me. That's meke folks. I'm Mike Knox. Yeah, hold on, look. Watch, I'm out of getting him. Let me call him Knox right now. I'm calling Mike Knox, we know. Oh, he ain't fucking with Mike Knox. Hey, yo, hey, Knox. Hey, yo, look. Hey, look. This is my dog, Mike Knox right here. Look. What's up, Jay? Hey yo Hey yo, I'm on Adam 22, you're
Starting point is 01:04:29 Oh, what's up, man What's up, Adam? What's she? Hey, what's going on Jay? How you doing? Hey, yo, look, I'm telling them
Starting point is 01:04:35 how Philly fucked up Like with that crap in the bed Like, Philly, Once you do one thing wrong, bro, Philly gonna try to make that shit to the max, bro, and try to make you where you, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:48 The same shit with meek, you're, Hey, yo, I'm trying to get meek on this zone. You don't think meek can answer? Yeah, y'all, y'all, Y'all y'all not talking talking like that, though? No? All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So me, not going to get on the jack then, right? You pick the wrong connect. Oh, no, I can't speak for him. All right, no, but, yo, look, look, this is my dog, Mike Knox, though. This is my old-haired Mike Knox. What you're doing? You're doing the show right now? Yeah, I'm on the interview.
Starting point is 01:05:22 No, I'm on it right now. He's doing the craziest interview you're ever going to see in your life. I know it's crazy, man. That's what's up, man. That's the face of zombie land Listen, everything about him is authentic and real He knows every fucking crack fiend In his neighborhood by first and last name
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, he told me he smashed a couple of them too Yeah, I don't know about that I don't know about that I see y'all though man, see what y'all doing man Keep working, man Appreciate you, G Alright, let you talk in I'm gonna cut you once I leave from here
Starting point is 01:05:55 Wow, that was That was very interesting And the Meek Mill hive, you're going to see that. They're going to dissect exactly what just happened on that phone call. Yeah, no, me can't get in on the day. You cool with Quilly? Quilly. Meek-Cooly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Because Quillie been on the anti-Meek Mill tour. Nobody's going harder on him than Quillie. I fought with me and I fought with Quill. Quill of my dog. Quill didn't pick me up from my crib. When I wasn't even popping, he picked me up from my crib. And I talked. You got cool on me?
Starting point is 01:06:30 It would is it Quilly doing numbers His interview that we just did with them 44 It went up He did AC That shit went up He got like 700K on AC
Starting point is 01:06:39 I think he got like 4,500K on me and Wack show This is that I see he needed Say cheese too Coley's on a tour And this dog is thirsty as fuck
Starting point is 01:06:53 For some attention right now I think every two weeks Yeah we got a guy Who just comes by Trims them up Yeah my sister I just went to the Rick Orister They ain't had shit in there, John
Starting point is 01:07:08 For real? Yeah, I took like six Zanis Before I got on the flight, bro, I was rock. Holy shit. Six. You're like a throwback to the old school SoundCloud days,
Starting point is 01:07:19 to be honest. You're getting overloaded. Stivo? I know Stivo. Stevo cannot be around this type of shit, though. You can't even smoke weed before you do a Steveo interview.
Starting point is 01:07:33 He needs it to be a clean environment for him. But I could definitely tap you in with Steve. You might not like his vibe, though, because he's going to be trying to get you to get clean. He's not going to be, like, laughing at you, taking whippets. Yeah, he's talking about him. He's right back. Hold on how much is he? I'm calling you again.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I feel like I might have Quilly's number two. Maybe we could double team him. No, I'm calling him. He's going to say, oh, shit, no ditty. No ditty. Hey, yo, twin. Hey, yo. Hey, we heard you were talking bad about the chasers.
Starting point is 01:08:06 What's heading? Oh, man, never that had him. Hey, yo, hey, Adam, hey, Adam, I said, I said, I said, Quilling not answered my Jack ring now. He must not got this number. Adam told him, hold on, I might call him too. We're about to double team. I said, no ditty, you're.
Starting point is 01:08:22 No ditty, you're. We ain't on that, you're? Yeah, I definitely had this number right here. I had another number. No, I already know. Hey, yo, no, dog. You know, you know, you already know. I love you, too, bloody.
Starting point is 01:08:34 We're going to carry you, man. Make sure you set that shit on fire you up there. Well, you want the people to know about Skrilla. I'm already on it. What'd you say, Adam? What do you think the people need to know about Skrilla? Man, how he got more pain, how he got another side of him, man, and he got a whole, he got a lot of another, a different catalog of music
Starting point is 01:08:56 that people ain't here that I heard already. Oh, really? You feel me? He ain't released that side of it yet, you know what I mean? Oh, shit. A lot of people think he just could make one sound of music, you know, man? Hey, cool, I told him. I told you, I told them, bro, you came and got me from my crib, bro.
Starting point is 01:09:15 My literally my crib. Yeah, my career, bro. And we went to the trenches, bro. Bro, this thing ain't you being one. This thing can't even want to leave. I'm fried right now. This nigga wasn't even leaving leave. You can't even talk.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah, yo, I'm fried, bro. I'm tripping. This shit. Beating my ass here. You were fucking with the zombies? Duh. Bullshit. This nigga ain't even want to leave, Kansas.
Starting point is 01:09:40 bro. Damn. It's nothing but love, man. I met his mom, his pop, everything, man. I'm coming to Philly, man.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I got to tap in. Real shit, bro. Italian, we're comfortable down there, bro. We don't need no pole none of that.
Starting point is 01:09:54 You know we come with the polls, but we don't even need that shit. With crocs on. We can walk around with crocs on, Adel.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Toclathas. Oh, fire. I'm going to start growing my beard out now. You don't even need none of that year. You don't need a beard to walk around Philly?
Starting point is 01:10:07 You don't need a beard to walk around Philly? Shit. What? You don't need none of that, you're When I used to go to Philly Beards in the building, bro. I get a feeling that shit has changed. You already know.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yo, I'm gonna cut you once I leave. I love you, you, you're it. I love you too, ma'all. All right, Twain. So you're saying that in Philly now is not as common to just see a shitload of motherfuckers with big ass beards
Starting point is 01:10:27 because back in the day, that was kind of the image. No, that ain't. No. Stapha'u. So you could be on your Muslim tip, You could be on your dean, as I say.
Starting point is 01:10:39 But you don't have to be rocking the beard necessarily. Fuck, no. Oh, okay. Fuck no. I had freeway on here the other day. No, you didn't. Legend. Legend.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I love Freeway. Did you grow up on that type of shit? It's a little too old. You know, it's crazy. Freeway daughter, Freeway daughter went to my school with me. I used to see Freeway once he picked up his daughter from it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah. Yeah. I used to see, I used to see her once he picked her up from school every day. Really? Mm-hmm. Every day. Mm-hmm. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah, yeah. And I know freeway too, though. That's a legend right there, man. He fucking has lived through some of the craziest shit, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, he's accomplished a lot, but with the kidney shit and losing so many people and stuff, like his, his whole story was intense, man. That's a, that's a legend to me.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I'm never, never going to forget that interview. Yeah, that real shit. Definitely. Um, but, uh, okay. Where were we? Where were we? Let me get, let me get back to my question list here. Um, let's see.
Starting point is 01:11:45 What we got here? Oh, so how'd you end up tapping in with, uh, G. Herbo? Yeah, but, uh, I feel like he's got a crazy track record for tapping in with artists before they really fully blow up and blessing him with a feature. Yeah, no, crazy thing is, I love Gerebo. That's my dog, for real, bro. For real, he did a lot for me. He don't even know what he did, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:03 He did a lot for me all. He don't even dig. but you want me to tell you what's crazy though I was coming out here to shoot my video with G Herbo on Hold on hold on here's it Yeah Hello
Starting point is 01:12:18 When can I see you Oh not right now I'm doing an interview right now I'm doing the interview right now Hold on Hey I'm coming out here I came out here to shoot my video with her On the 13th
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh for real? Yeah And we had Erjohn, so I'm just like, damn, I'm coming out here. Yeah, tomorrow. Oh, shit. Tomorrow. Yeah, yep. I'm shooting my video with Herb will tomorrow. I'm going to hit you.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yeah, yep. Yeah, so I just came out here. So I'm like, damn, let me make sure I make my flight out here, though, before I even, so I could just knock two things at once. Right. Yeah, but I'm shooting my video with Herb, though tomorrow, though. But you really tapped in with Chicago, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I love, yeah, Herb, that's my dog. And Minisky, no limit, Minsky. That's my brother, bro. Okay. Minsky, once I came out here, nothing but love. bro Minsky made sure I was cool I'm saying Mainsky really that's really my brother
Starting point is 01:13:09 That was the first person I called when I came out here I won't know this nigga to call me back I just talked when you're supposed to come over here And meet me over here Who? Mainsky Oh okay No living Minsky
Starting point is 01:13:19 Nice That's what's up Why were you a pay me Scrilla originally And why did you decide to change it? That was just my Instagram name Oh yeah that was just my Instagram name I really came up on my name Scrilla because you had
Starting point is 01:13:34 a clue line like when I had a cool line when I was a kid called screla gorilla oh okay and I just was like fuck it let me make my name scler and I just made my name scler are you a big failure of the kodak black song yeah that was the first kodak black song I ever heard back in the day yeah yeah scrella yeah yeah classic yeah that's one of my favorite songs too it's kind of a crazy rap name for you though because I feel like scurilla is sort of like a bling bling get money ass name and then you I feel like you represent a different side. The illish shit I seen was you rapping in front of a big
Starting point is 01:14:11 ass fire with a blanket over you. Yeah. Like, I was like, damn, he really trying to summon the energy. Yeah, scurl a block hot. Yeah, my song, Black Hot. Yeah. What is, um, what's putting a crouton on the glizzy?
Starting point is 01:14:25 What's a crouton? I eat a lot of salads, but... Put a crouton back to glizzy. That shit. I never put a crout on a hot dog, though. No, pause, no ditty. Oh, it's a different type of... We don't need no switches on no hot dogs
Starting point is 01:14:38 It's like, Glyzzy? No, you know, you know the croutine It's croutine like a little square, right? Right. Put a crouton back to Glyze You know the switches, the switches. Ah, switches on the glizzy. You see, I trolled you into explaining it?
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah. You ain't showing me. I would explain it regularly here. No, that was funny, though. As soon as I heard crouton, I was like, damn, they really got some wild slang out there. What's some slang I should know in Philly? Dick here
Starting point is 01:15:05 Dicket We started no ditty Uh Quilly He's got a living off that soon Yeah No ditty Um
Starting point is 01:15:15 What's Bippin Bippin? Bippin Your perspective Like bippin Like you just bippin Like the shit you got on
Starting point is 01:15:25 You fly you trim You bippin you bippin You like that Like bippin like I'm saying like I'm bippin like I'm bippin like Out here Bippin is when they take
Starting point is 01:15:33 The spark plug and they smash the window of your car and take all your shit. Nah. Bipping is when you take the spark plugs, you take the whip and all that and now you bippin when you drive in that, now you trim,
Starting point is 01:15:44 you bipping, like, you're saying, like bipping is when you just come in trim, like you fly, you got, all right, this type,
Starting point is 01:15:52 you bippin, like you got roly, bust down, chain bust down, like you're bippin, like when you, you're saying, like you trim.
Starting point is 01:16:00 That's bippin. That's bippin. That's bippin what it mean in Philly. I'm going to remember that. Yeah, Like, and me and Hood Tali, free Hood Tali, free my dog, Hurtali. Uh-huh. You know who the Hurtali is?
Starting point is 01:16:09 No. That's my dog. Tap in. Hurtali. He booked right now. Okay. Hurtali. That's my dog.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Free Hurtali. And free my man, 40-Oti, too. 40-Oty. I heard you talking about the 40-Oty a lot in the song. Yeah, 40-Ody. That's my dog. Free 40-Ody and free hop-out blick. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Okay. Got it. So where it is? You were cool with Kwani at a certain point, and then y'all fell out. And I noticed. And I noticed that you were saying that you invented the dark music in Philly. And that was that, that was the origin of you guys having issues with each other, right?
Starting point is 01:16:40 Was that he was claiming it? Yeah. Look, well, I don't even really like to talk about this shit, though, with me and Quani, though, because, like, it's just a lot of little nuts shit, though, but, like, my entourage and his entourage, you know what I'm saying? Street shit, yeah. But at the beginning of me and Quani was cool, but, like, Quaniariari, though. bro, but Quani not,
Starting point is 01:17:04 Quiney just a bitch, bro. Really? Yeah, Quiney a bitch. That's just what it is, bro. He cool, and all, though, bro, but he's just a bitch. He just threw little shit that bitch's dude, though. Like, you feel me? Like, Connie just, but he's cool, though, bro.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I don't want to put no durn in the name, though, like, and all that shit, though, because I'm fucking around with the same. Matter of fact, Quiney's just a bitch, bro. I keep thinking you're going to try to clean it up here, but yeah, I ain't want to pull his card, though, but Quiney a bitch, bro. Crony, never took no piss Cotney, never do...
Starting point is 01:17:35 Cronny's a bitch, bro. That's this, is that. I don't even want to talk about it no more, though, bro. Damn. He's just a bitch. That's just what it is. I fuck with his music. And I ain't never even stamp it now,
Starting point is 01:17:44 but it's stamped now, though. That's what it is. Oh, Jesus Christ. His music's dope, though. I never really, like, met him or anything. I think he's mad at me. Well, he does, he's just a bitch. He threw little shit that bitch is a dude, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Like, he just, he's just a bitch. Because we were supposed to do an interview And then like instead of like organizing it with the fucking The lady that you were talking to Laura in terms of like figuring out of date and stuff He would just call me randomly and be like I'm at your store Let's do the interview and I'd be like bro I got a whole schedule like I got to I ain't anybody about to waste my time on here talking about another man bro Because I'm a gangster bro like I really run around really like that bro
Starting point is 01:18:25 I get fried and all that shit bro Niggas car say all that little type shit though bro I get fried and all that shit but I stand on business, bro. Like, I really run around. I really run around. I really run out. I really run out. I'm ready to throw my life away, bro. I ain't got no rat, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Like, really, like, I run around like that, bro. But Quiney not really, like, one of them, no, bro. Quiney really, like, too. I bet you, he's a matter of fact, then he's a sign of his deal? Yeah. I doubt he's going to be in Philly, bro. Like, he should move from out of Philly, bro. I thought he's going to be out in Philly, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:57 But I fought with certain people that be around me, bro. But Quineyne, no, he's not like that. bro and the people that's around him know he's not like that bro he's a rapper he's a rapper quani's a rapper he said that you started rapping on o t7 quani type beats bro me and him and nothing i like bro bro bro my videographer my videographer i thought he's cool and all that though but my videographer listens to all my unreleased music and he goes back and tells him yo bro scurley did this type beat da da da da da da da da da da da da you yo you know you you should try to do this, you should try to do this.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He's start trying to rap like me. Oh, shit. He's doing all the same type means. He's starting to find all the producers. Yo, I ain't even one of them, though, bro. Next question, bro. I ain't even wanted them, no, bro. What did you mean when you said,
Starting point is 01:19:45 I know what go on in them vehicles? I know what going on in the vehicles, bro. Like, let's not talk about that, though, bro, because I ain't one of them, bro. I ain't even, I ain't even, I don't even, I don't even want to. Yeah, I don't even want to talk about, I don't even want to talk about nothing like that. If you know what's going on in the vehicles,
Starting point is 01:20:01 Let me know in the comments. Okay. But so, you mentioned your religion. What religion exactly do you represent? I'm a Santo. I do Paolo. I'm a santo.
Starting point is 01:20:15 What's that meaning exactly? All that sacrifice and goats and all that shit. That's not just for like, that's real life. You sacrifice the goat? You've seen that shit, bro. That's real life, bro. I sacrifice goats, chickens, mice.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Like, I do shit for certain shit, though. Like, I'm not allowed to explain it how you want me to explain it. I think how you want me to explain it, but, yeah. I can do my research. That's interesting. It ain't even going to, you're not even going to find it like that. Oh, it's hard to Google? You could Google it, but it ain't going to explain it.
Starting point is 01:20:46 It's like a, it's, it's, you could try to do these research, though. I don't even know what you'll find out though, bro. Oh, it's some Nigerian shit? I'm calling you really a bitch. What the fuck? Oh, my God. Damn, I wish I could see him when it's just me and him one-on-one, bro. Like, I wish I could see it, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You think he could have a fade and then be cool again? He's not going to want to have no fade with me, bro. What's up? He said he wants him to set up a boxing match. Well, if you set him one-on-one, and I don't even know how to fight, but I will beat his ass, bro. I don't need, we doing extra shit for him, though, bro. That's drawn, no, because he's not even one of them, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I'm about to pass him real fast. bro like oh i'll beat that little nigger ass bro he's a whole turkey bro oh do it what did i start um okay what the fuck damn yeah next question bro okay um shit i feel like that's that's pretty much like all the questions i had honestly that's it pretty much all right well i got some questions for you oh lord here we go There we go. How you feel like when you, how did you feel when you put them speedos on, bro? I mean, it was way too tight. It was way too tight.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Because I borrowed it from the little gay dude. Oh, shit. Michael Doherty. I borrowed it. No, no ditty, bro, because that shoe was a shrimp she do-doo. I really, I set the hood on fire when I did that photo shoot. Because everybody talking about that shit. Yeah, they in the comments talking about a shrimp-she-d-d-d-old.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Oh man. Yeah, that was fucked up when I seen that. I said, Adam Dan, what the fuck? See, I think I need to, like, make a song about not being gay. I don't know. What's you put them speedos on, though, bro? They're not going to believe it. It ain't no coming back, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:58 It ain't no coming back, bro. I'm plotting on my next move. You need a real good next move, bro. You need a good one for that one, bro. Yeah, it might need a good move. You need a good one, bro So how many days you're sticking around? I ain't going to allow it.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I just got my ticket out here, bro. I might not never go back to Philly, bro. What? I thought you needed to stay on the block. Yeah, bro. I might, no, no, no. I'm going to go back once in the blue, bro, but I'm trying to lead that shit, bro, and go back
Starting point is 01:23:29 when I want to go back, bro. The only reason I'm going to definitely go back because I got kids. Oh, really? How many kids? I got two. Okay. But I want my main mom to know.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Secret baby. She can find out. All right. Damn, but okay, what's the relationship with the baby mama though? It's cool?
Starting point is 01:23:48 You co-parenting? It's cool, but, like, you know, all my life, I've been making a lot of money, though,
Starting point is 01:23:57 like, all my life, like, before rapping, I was trapping and I was making a lot of money. Like, like,
Starting point is 01:24:02 when I say a lot of money, I mean a lot of money, though, like, like, I had money, money. Like,
Starting point is 01:24:07 I get fried, too, on top of that, though, so, bro, like, If I didn't get fired, bro, I would have been a millionaires.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Like, I spent a lot of money. I spend $4, $600 every day on getting high. Jesus. Literally, bro. And then I'd be wondering why I don't look like that in my face, though, because I don't look like I get, like, the way I get foul on my face. Do I? Well, how old are you?
Starting point is 01:24:28 I'm 24. Oh, you still got plenty of time. You think it's going to hit me later? I mean, you look cool now, but, you know, being a 35-year-old Jay, it could be a little more difficult to hold it together, right? Not that you're a J, but you're on the spectrum. Yeah, well, I hope I don't make it there. But fucking, you know, I make a lot of brids, so I always like,
Starting point is 01:24:52 I'm not going to say I take care of her, like, where I go out splurgeon and buying a whole bunch of shit and all that type of shit, though, but I actually take care. Like, you know what I'm saying? Houses, like the kid. She do a lot, too, though. Shout out to my baby mom. I love her to death, Joe.
Starting point is 01:25:06 That's my baby, here. Right. I got her tattered on my face. I got it now on my face. I got her tattooed on my neck and my arm twice. I got my, I got her teddy. Like,
Starting point is 01:25:13 that's my baby for a real. I really love my baby, my butt. I made her comfortable with life. I want her to get back on her shit and like really like, so like we could be compatible and really like go back and forth. Like we could be able to do certain things though. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:28 But I'm staying out here. I'm letting her get on her shit while she out there. And she's cut in. And I come from the trenches, but she comes from the trenches too, though. So I want her. heard to like get out of there where my kids could be like kind of like white kids too like hanging around you know what I'm saying though you want your kids to have a better life yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:25:47 so I might stay out here for a little I'm like I'm not planning on leaving at all right I'm not playing on leaving at all you think like this is the time like you really got to keep your foot on the on the pedal right now because I feel like I've been falling off really yeah I feel like I'm falling off for the last two three months I've been I've been feeling like I've fallen off where you took that break from the drugs? Do you think that was part of it? Yeah, I didn't take a break from drugs. I just took a break from, like, rapping. Yeah. So, okay, my main question that I feel like we got a hit before we wrap the interview is basically like, can you imagine a version of yourself that is less into the drugs at the
Starting point is 01:26:23 very least? Because I feel like, you know, at some point. When I stop doing drugs, I'm done rapping. I'm done. I'm a new person. When I stop, when I stopped doing drugs, I'm done rapping. I'm cutting my hair. I'm a whole new person. Like, I'm not reckless no more. That's almost kind of scary to realize that the music that I appreciate so much from you is kind of like directly tied to the drug shit and that I want you to get to a better place for the drugs.
Starting point is 01:26:54 But that would also mean that we're not going to be hearing music from you. That's kind of a shame. Yeah, but no time soon, though. Okay. No time soon at all. No time soon. No time soon. I feel like there's a version of you that is still able to be productive musically without having to be on drugs every time.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully. We're going to figure that. Who your top five rappers? Right now? Yeah. Geez.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I don't know. There's so many. Your top five. I've been listening to a lot of future. Mm-hmm. So future's number one right now. Mm-hmm. I got to go to my Apple music because I want to give like a lot of future.
Starting point is 01:27:35 a real answer or what I actually been listening to and not just like what I want to seem like I listen to. Yeah. Um, shit, I'm gonna put laser dim on the fucking list because I have been listening to him a bit even though his shit, if I listen
Starting point is 01:27:49 to it long enough starts to hurt my head. But shout out to laser dim. I'm a big fan. Cuando Rondo. I fuck with Cuando Rondo tough. I fuck with all his ops a lot too. I follow Quando Rondo before, I like
Starting point is 01:28:01 to, I love the Quando Rondo before he got on when he started rapping like. like NBA young boy. You know, a lot of his shit sound like young boy. The early shit, you kind of like better.
Starting point is 01:28:09 He was the best. If Coronado stayed on that, he'd probably be in the top 10 in the rap era right now, though, bro. I want that old Kondo back, though, bro. I really fuck with Kondo Rondo. I want that old Kondo Rano back. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 01:28:23 But Kondorado Rano hard, though. I fuck with Kondon. I'm gonna let him know. You know what I've been listening to? Big 30. Big 30. I fought with Big 30. For a while, I was like,
Starting point is 01:28:31 I liked Push Sheisty so much that I wasn't really trying to listen to Big 30, and now somehow I've just become a legitimate Big 30 fans. So that's kind of new development. And shit, I don't know. I don't even know how many are names. Oh, there's a rapper named Treyway from out here that I fuck with too, but he's been locked up for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah, one more. We've got to go out here too. Who I've been listening to lately? Well, I'll also, I really fuck with M.A. Fiske, too. So I'm going to put him on the list. MFA Tisky. Yeah. Yeah, I got an open verse that I ain't ever do from him yet.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Right, because you guys rap on a lot of the same types of beats. I feel like you guys would sound very natural together. Yeah. Hey, yo, shout out to my dog, a little shimmy. Little shimmy. You know a little shimmy? No. You don't know who little shimmy is?
Starting point is 01:29:15 I got to get to that thing to little shimmy, though. He's from Florida. Okay. He heard of shit. Little shimmy. I'm going to get on that. He's from Zimmy land, too. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I can tell that you're a real rap fan because you got a hell of underground artists from all different parts of the country. Yeah, me and a little shimmy just dropped the video. I ain't a lie. He got off on me on that song, though. me though. Really? Oh,
Starting point is 01:29:35 it's your most recent video? Then I guess I have seen him. He was all the recent show. Yeah, he got off on me, though. I got to get my get back, though. Lo Schemi, uh, fucking,
Starting point is 01:29:45 I'm gonna tell you my top five, too. Lo Schemi, Ola Runt. And I ain't gonna fuck, I fought, I fuck with Playboy Cardi too, but they,
Starting point is 01:29:55 you know, they beef with Ola Runt. Right. But I put with Ola Rond more, so fuck Playboy Cardi. You don't want to sign to opium? I feel like it'll be a good fit. Are they on some fake dark shit?
Starting point is 01:30:06 You want some real dark shit? I want some of that shit, though. But I fuck with Playboy Crady, though, for real. But fucking, I fought with Olaude, I've been fucking with Ola for a minute. And, um, so I'm, I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna put my dog, uh, uh, YBC Duel. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I B C Duel. I got him on my list to check out after this, yeah. Yeah, um, fucking, um, you know, future, of course. Mm-hmm. Um. Oh yeah, Kodak, of course Kodak.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Always Kodak. Yeah, Kodak, that's my favorite artist. That hurt you when he worked with 6'9? Kodak is Kodak. I'm rocking out with whatever Kodak do. That's really my, that's really like my favorite artists of the world. No ditty though.
Starting point is 01:30:50 But I feel like if you and Kodak met that it would be like an instant connection and that you would probably be sniper ganged out. Yeah, I already know. I already know. Kodak, Kodak, know who I am. No, like we talked before on Instagram. me like my shit he sent me how he moves you like me a korek had like a little small little
Starting point is 01:31:06 conversation and shit he might be able to go toe to toe with you with the drugs yeah i don't know he seems like he's pretty talented in that regard i don't know no no i don't know he's been practicing for a while i get the idea um shit all right uh i'm gonna give you one more uh uh one more one more ralphi uh and shout of my boy risa younger risa young and um ricey yon rice yon Let me add one more too. Reese Young and Reese Young. You know Reese Younger? No, I got to check him out.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah. Check Reese Younger. Okay. See one more. One more. Who, Lil Tyler? Yeah, Lil Tyler. Little Tyler definitely, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:59 He's doing this thing. Oh, yeah. All right, yeah, all right, yeah. Little Tyler, that's my dog. Little Tyler and Shorty Shorty Shorty, Shorty. You fuck with Shorty Shorty, Shorty, yeah. Yeah, shout out Little Tyler. Little Tyler.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah, me and we got to do some shit for sure. I think I did the first Shorty Shorty Shorty interview ever. Yeah Quite possibly Me and a little Tyler I got to do some shit I'm on his ass Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:20 He bent sending me some bees I was doing some bullshit though I'm going out Florida After I leave from out there I'm going to Florida I'm doing some shit With a little Tyler Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:30 Shout out Lucky and Vs too Yeah lucky Lucky that's my brother Bro that's really my Geminae Twin Lucky that's my dog I'm out here for Lucky and G Herbo Oh really?
Starting point is 01:32:41 Doing some shit with Lucky and Vee too Yeah Every time I come on here I'm with Lucky and G Herbo M Minsky. Look at him, M M M M M Macy. He's been saying
Starting point is 01:32:47 he's going to come kicking on the podcast sometime. He just made me promise not to interview him. He's like, I'll come hang out but you can't interview me.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. It's a little tricky. Yeah. But for show, man. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on the pod. I love the music. I'm hoping you can kind of clean your act up a little bit
Starting point is 01:33:03 just because I'm a little worried that that tank was really getting abused throughout this episode. But, you know, everybody, everybody's at a certain step in their journey, you know?
Starting point is 01:33:13 Yeah. Now that's what's the good joint you think, though? Oh, fire. Legendary. You think this shit gonna go up? Oh, yeah. Definitely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Definitely going up. Shout out to Skrilla. Everybody turn him up, if you ain't already. Add many of his songs to your playlist and whatnot. What's the upside-down thumbs? What's that? I'm the biggest dropper all times. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Don't you drive your thumb. Drop you down. No, I'm the biggest dropper. I'm the biggest drop of all the time. I feel like it does in somebody. Biggest dropper of all times. I'm here. I've learned when the rappers tell me to throw up a weird hand sign.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Just don't do it. Don't do it. Because it probably means, ha-ha, so-and-so got killed or something. I don't know. I don't trust none of you rappers. But shout out to my man, Skrilla.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Appreciate you coming through, man. There's big things to come. I'm a believer. Shout out to Ralphie the pup. He's a good dog. Appreciate you, man. No drummer coolest podcast on the world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, Instagram, like, comment, and subscribe.
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