No Jumper - Skrilla on Being The Face of Zombieland, Ot7Quanny Beef, Meek Mill & More
Episode Date: April 19, 2024Skrilla easily gives one one of the most entertaining interviews while talking about his upbringing in Philly, describes Zombiland, house arrest, friendship with YNG Cheese, and more. ----- Get the l...atest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, no jumper, coolest podcast in the world.
And today I'm having to sit down with somebody who,
you're the only rapper who could cause me to take a break from the future album
that I've been listening to over and over for the past few weeks.
This is one of my favorite rappers coming out of Philly.
I feel like this is one of the rawest rappers I ever heard.
And you funny as hell.
I've only been around you for a couple minutes.
I feel like we've known each other for a long time already.
Scrilla is in this.
Yes, me.
What's going on?
Hey, yo, but who the person you got to take a break from, though, listen to me?
Future.
Future.
You know the future in Metro Boomin album?
That's big bro.
That's big bro.
I mean, I really brought me back into, like, my future fandom.
That's big bro.
That's big bro.
Future, that's my dog.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I had to take a break to listen to the moody scrylla instrumentals that you just be going crazy on.
So, what, you're just going to be hitting that every couple seconds for the entirety of this pod?
You think that's going to get the pot up?
I mean, I feel like it's going to be a nightmare for the editors if they have to edit it.
I'll just take my one big whip it, though, so I'm going to pick my one big puff and it's going to be right.
All right, we good.
Oh, my God, bro.
You want to know what?
That is insane, though.
It just doesn't do your voice.
But did you see this girl?
It's this girl I know, and she might lose use of her legs due to the nitrous.
She'd be ballooned out on.
on her Instagram all the time.
Yeah.
So it gets real out here.
Also, I can introduce you to Steveo
and he'll tell you to leave that shit alone too.
That's crazy.
I just was looking at the, though,
and I'm just like, damn, yeah.
I'm like, I'm gonna talk to her.
I'm like, I'm gonna try to talk to her
just because the way she looked, though,
just so people talk about me,
but damn, that's crazy.
Her leg missing?
Yeah.
They make it even better if I talk to her now
because he'd be like,
he's talking to a bitch with no legs.
It's crazy.
Yeah, because I feel you probably
a bunch of chicks with no legs, right?
I feel like you
A lot of chicks with no legs
Or at least like some stumps and shit
Bro
Because, okay, I've been on my
Kensington YouTube binge
A lot of people talk about
How where they're from is fucked up
Yeah
You got the crown
Like I think you take it
Yeah, no
That place is frimy
Yeah
Yeah, that shit really, yeah
That shit that yeah
I never seen nothing like it
even when I go other places
I just start traveling though bro
but when I go to other places bro
when I be asking people like
what that shit look like down there
they'd be like bro nothing like
down down
yeah no like that shit
have you seen to get a lot worse
since you were a kid
and have you always been in like the same area
your whole life?
No yeah yeah hell yeah
I've been on there since I was a kid
but every time I go
every time
every time
I forgot what I was about to say
just about Kensington
and how
Oh, yeah, look. Oh, yeah.
They try to clean it up.
They try to clean it up every two, three years.
They try to do their hardest to clean it up.
And then it gets clean for like two, three months.
And then it's right back to the same thing.
Like, right back every time.
Like right now, the mayor just was out on her yesterday.
Really?
The mayor down there yesterday, literally yesterday, literally today, today.
The mayor was down there this morning and looking for everybody trying to clean it up.
And she got all the cops following her trying to get everybody right.
I just shot a big-ass blog
Down there yesterday and shit
And I had posted a pickup
With my gun down there the day before
And I had the same clothes on that I had on the next day
And the cops
Like 50 cops ran up to me
It was like yo where's your gun at? Where's your gun at?
Really?
I just put that in the car
You just missed me
I just put that in the car
The gun laws are pretty strict in Philly
It's like New York and shit
No
That crazy
Yeah no they don't get
We all, that's just what we do.
Okay.
That's what we do.
But you've seen Kensington itself, like, transform over the years and become drastically
worse.
Yeah, like, yeah, it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse, worse and worse, worse and worse.
It ain't never been better than how it was before.
It just gets worse and worse and worse and people travel from, like,
people out there that's from LA and all that.
Like, people, you know how people who doke fiends and they deal dope fiends in different parts
said areas of the world.
And, you know, sometimes they come to a moment where they're not able to get what they want.
And they go on YouTube and literally search, where can I get, how do I, where can I get my fix from?
What if they got some product where they're from, but they just want to sample like a different high?
Because it's probably like a little different, like every part of the country, right?
Yeah, they just, a lot of people, bro, 60%, 70% of the people, the fiends is down there.
I don't call them fiends though, but just so they would understand.
like they actually are my friends and shit like that though but 70% of the people that's down there though
they're all from different parts of the area but they literally traveled down there just to make
sure they don't get sick and sometimes they end up moving down there and not never leaving because
they just want to stay next to what they want right so that shit is crazy and you feel like kensington's
way gnarlier than the rest of philly like did the cops like kind of heard the people there
or is it just the cops don't give a about shit though they don't give a
about shit like
like they don't get a
about shit like
at all like
when I just
when I just had my gun
out there before they even
even all jumped up on me
I just had my gun out there
the day before that
and the cop really seen my gun
I hope now now though
but the cops literally seen
my gun on my waist
a biker cop
and he rode by me
he was like I hope you got your gun license
and I just laughed at him
he just kept it pushing
like you don't give a fuck at all
but it wasn't like that
when you were younger right
like I feel like
Law and Order was a lot bigger when we were younger
and now it's kind of like falling off a cliff
No hell yeah it was like that when I was younger
But the fiends aren't weren't the fiends that
They are now though
Right they were actually like
Clean like they were like
Actually workers and driving nice cars
And like back in the day like
We were like fiends will pull up
Like well not I'm just say fiends
Just for the video
We call them J's
Yeah just Jays
We're gonna call them Jays
The Jays
back then they'd be pulling up
and
Ben's these all these
fresh nice-ass
fresh cars
and when they wouldn't have the money
or whatever
we would actually rent the cars off of them
and give them a bundle
and we'll have the car
for the whole day or two days
and most of the time
we just keep it and never give it back to them
right and that's it
but now nobody has a
like this shit is f*** up man
everybody's money is just
gone on the drugs like right away
stuff bad
because I've been watching this documentary
about these
homeless people in New York
back in the 70s or 80s or some shit
who are like living in these tunnels under the
subways and shit.
And there are so much more like normal
people than a lot of the homeless
people you see now who are like really
tweaked out with hell of scabs
all over their faces and shit like that.
Some of these people are probably like crackheads
but they weren't on the level
that motherfuckers are on now.
They probably at the same level
it's just that the drugs that is
down Clinton is just
way different. Like, it's this new thing called
alligator or crocodile
trinkillizer. And that's
the shit that's like taken over. I was watching that
in a Brandon Buckingham's video.
It already did take over. Now they're doing
it. Now they're doing a new trinkelizer called
elephant trinkillazine. Zalazine. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That's the
elephant trinkalizer. Really? So
but before, well, it's still out
though, but the crocodile
the crocodile trinkalizer is
not supposed to go
inside of our skin, of the side of a
human person's skin that's for crocodiles their skin is like rocks right so when
they shoot the crocodile tranquilizer up it eats out of their skin and when it eats
out of their skin it just keeps spreads and spread and spread it I could you want me
I could show you this video or somebody I could show you like this one video
but this is crazy it makes me wonder if it's the same shit when I went to Russia like 10
years ago everybody was talking about how there was this crazy as drug called
crocodile and it was like everybody was just insanely
up on it out there and I wonder if it's related to this.
Yeah, the tranquilizer just really just put you right to sleep though.
Like that tranquilizer is made to just put you out, put you to sleep.
Yeah, I saw people saying that like you kind of need the fentanyl with the tranquilizer
because it's like a different high.
For sure, for sure.
You need that bed for sure.
You make a good.
Yeah, that's the whole point.
Right.
Yeah, and the tranquilizer, that shit keeps those sleep for a long time so they don't
got to hurry up and try to make the money to buy the next shot, though.
Like, they're asleep for a good amount of time.
So by the time they wake up now they're ready to get their new shot and bang now they back to noon they sleep
The whole day they're they're there in their sleep the whole day for real
Yeah, holy shit shit is out of control
So wait like okay, what was your upbringing like like you were coming up in this crazy ass area
But what was life like as a kid?
I'm gonna show you the video yeah, I'll show you the video yeah, yeah, but you say it again just being a kid like growing up in this sort of area like does you have crazy
memories of what shit was like? This was fun.
This was fun, bro. I enjoyed myself
growing up, bro. I had the best time
of my life when I was young.
Because then we were young,
everybody was trapping
with my age. It was 13,
12, 13, 14, 15, everybody was young.
And it was way more money back then.
It was way more money. And back then we were selling
domes. It wasn't Nixon anymore. It was
domes. So selling drugs was just like
automatic from what age?
Like, once you jump off the
Once you come outside, down Kensington, like, once your parents let you go outside, even if you get a second to go outside, if you get my mom, you tell your mom, I'm like, yo, I'm about to go to the park.
If you're going outside, you're going to the track.
Really?
Yeah, and by the time you're going in, you're going in with some money.
But where were your parents on?
There were normal people?
Yeah, I got, I got a real good dad and a real good mom.
Really?
Yeah, you wouldn't even know that, though, bro.
But I got it real good and I got a real good.
Yeah, my mom, my mom.
My mom is actually Mexican.
Oh, really?
My mom, straight Mexican and my pop black.
But they went to college and everything.
That's how they met.
Okay.
And everything.
My mom from Texas, my pop from Philadelphia.
My mom went to Philly just to go with my dad.
And did they warn you a lot about, like, the environment that you were born in?
Like, were they always trying to put you on game so that you didn't get into crazy situations?
My father and my father was really on my ass.
My father, I played sports.
I played every sport you could think.
My pop made sure I played.
I was really good at basketball.
So my pop made sure that I really played basketball.
I played basketball.
I played AAU.
I didn't travel around the world playing basketball when I was younger.
Yeah, every trophy of a guy is an MVP trophy.
Like, I was really good in basketball.
But somehow, though, like, the streets just got to me, though, at early age.
Really?
Yeah.
Why do you think that was?
Because you were balancing selling drugs and basketball at one point?
No, no, no.
I just gave it up.
Oh, I just gave it up.
But having not one, one, one, one shit, not having the shit that I wanted.
Not having the shit that I wanted.
This shit I really wanted, though.
Like, and I knew how I could get it though.
And that's just, you know what I mean?
Right.
Feel me?
But so do your parents, like, really try to rein you in when you're starting to get in trouble and shit?
Or were they powerless?
Yeah, that shit was in, it was in anything that they could do.
Like, that shit just was what it was.
That was what it was.
Yeah.
That's just what it was.
That's just what I was on.
That's just what I was.
on. Definitely.
Was music always part of your life too?
Me rapping?
Not just like, was it the soundtrack to your childhood and shit?
When you think about your childhood, what were you listening to?
As a kid, kid, kid, kid, like, when meek, I used to listen to meek.
Like when Meek was really like coming up and all that shit, though.
Like when he was younger as a kid, I listened to Meek.
everybody for fully listening to me
but like when I start really
like getting into my
something like into the music that I
really really like
my go-to would be
future
thug
future thugs
damn who my
yeah oh Kodak
Kodak I'm tripping what
Kodak that's my favorite artist
Kodak that's my favorite artist
I'm the girl's yeah that's my dog
Kodak Kodak that's my favorite
artists at all times though
Really? Wow.
Yeah. I don't think anybody better than cooking.
Why would you say that?
Just when he talk about and everything about him, though, like, he authentic, though.
Like, he ain't nothing. No cap. He ain't got no cap in him.
He ain't got, he's sugar-cooling none. He can't.
He's like the ultimate dude who became this famous rapper and doesn't really seem like he's changed.
He just kind of became like a more extreme version of what he already was.
Yeah, I f***-it. That's my dog.
I f*** at. I f*** at.
but correct future uh thugs and um damn let me give you one more though
let me give you one more but currently you though like in like for the last couple years I
oh really all right oh like run all I run and locked up the last year's too right yeah yeah that's really
one of my favorite I interviewed him back in the day yeah yeah all right and who else one more
so yeah oh yeah chief keep of course so yeah chief keep yeah of course so yeah yeah definitely yeah um
Okay, but did you always think that maybe you were going to try rapping,
or when did that become a thing?
No, I never thought I would have been a rapper, bro.
You ever heard of Rico have it?
No.
No, he's an artist, though, from Philadelphia, though.
Like, he blew up, though, real fast, though.
After Meek and losing all that, he was probably kind of like the next, though.
He just fell off, though.
He just, like, I'm not going to say you fell off, though.
He just took a break and got too comfortable, though.
And you know how shit.
You know how the rap shit go.
You know, everybody's rapper.
So it's always a substitution.
And it's hard to sustain being like a lit street rapper.
Yeah.
Some people can do it, but it's difficult.
Yeah.
So he, that's like my brother.
Like we actually grew up together our home run.
When I was a kid, we actually grew up together.
He's one of the biggest artists in Philly.
And out of nowhere, I'm just like, man, let me just try to write.
Let me just give it a try.
I went to the studio, I made my first song.
And the engineer that I was paying and recorded me,
he was like, bro, I don't even want you to, I don't want your money, bro.
I want you to finish making this song, bro.
And he was like, bro, you don't want to pay me for no time.
I was young, too.
He said, I don't want you to, he like, just make this song for me, bro.
And I finished the song that was a song called Dog Food, Skrilla Dog Food.
That's probably one of my best songs I ever dropped ever in my life.
Then that was my first song.
So from day one, rapping about heroin.
Yeah, yeah.
That's where I come from, no, bro.
Like, that's all I know.
That's where I come from, look.
I got dope tatty on my face.
Dog food tatting on my face.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I got dog food tat on my hand and everything.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, dog food.
That's hard.
But, I mean, that's kind of funny just because, like, you're so obviously,
authentically from that shit.
But heroin and, like, selling Coke and all this shit is, like, one of the most
lied about things in the history of rap, right?
Like, that's the one thing that's so many rappers,
talk about you know that they never did it so it's kind of weird for you because it's like
it's so believable from you because i know what area you're come from and also like seeing the
videos and how comfortable you are around all these smokers and shit it's just kind of like what is
that like like what is that like like what is that like what is that like you know i don't even know
i don't even know i don't even know i ask for that shit though i don't really pay attention of
artists is I don't really listen to other music for real for real yeah do you consider yourself
a philly drill rapper I don't know drills foreign that's not that's not what but do you even talk
about that shit when it comes to philly or is it you're just outside of it yeah what you're saying
I'm outside of the drill rap shit yeah because that shit exists but you don't consider yourself to be
part of that no I want to consider myself would be a part of it though but I'm around it though like
I'm in it though like I'm in this shit too like
I'm not, I just don't talk about it, though.
I'm in this shit and everything too, though.
But my man, my man, the Jewel rapper, though.
My man, you ever heard of YBC duel?
You told him you didn't.
YBC do.
Okay, but that's where you're from, right?
YBC.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hell no, I'm not from.
I got that written now, don't I?
No, I'm not from YBC.
Oh, okay.
Where are you at one point?
No, that's what they gang, man.
That's what they gang.
I ain't going to say it's a game.
No, I ain't going to say it's a gang, though, because I ain't going to say it's a gang, though, because we got
are like, you know what I'm saying?
The cops is all on my...
It's not a gang, it's just a rap group, though.
Just like how they...
Just like how they, uh, doing that shit with Yassel?
Yeah.
That's what...
You know what I'm saying?
The same type of thing.
Yeah.
Group of rappers and like people that hang out
and they try to, you know,
one person does something,
they try to put that on the whole thing.
Yeah, tape shit, type shit.
They'd be doing all the gang enhancements out there and shit.
People getting insane sentences for...
Yeah, they got them on the news
and all that shit talking about some...
If you were part of, you're going to jail.
That was that clip that so many people seen.
And the narrative was like Phillies out of control.
They're really trying to rain in it now.
Jesus.
I felt like you were already good.
Oh, my God.
Chase it.
What the fuck is?
Is this a regular day?
Are you on Cali time?
It's regular?
Every day, bro.
I get geeked up, bro.
You ever heard my song geeked up?
Yeah, I know some of the vlogs and shit of you, like, just being in your neighborhood and shit, are, it's almost kind of scary what looks like it's going on with your eyes.
Like, you just look like you're on another planet, dude.
Yeah, no, but I'm definitely still in another, I'm owning another planet, but I'm in y'all playing there, but I see what's going on.
You get around with Earth?
With what?
Earth.
Earth's cool?
I pop out here and there, you know, just to come check y'all out, though.
Yeah, all right, though.
Yeah, all right, though.
Yeah, all right.
When did you start getting fucked up?
And, like, what is that like when you're around all these people that are fucked up?
But then you're just doing slightly different versions of it, right?
Well, like, more of it.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I mean, the perks, I think, you know, chemically are not that different from a lot of the shit that the local jays are on, right?
Say it against a one more time?
Well, like, you're taking perks.
and all this I assume other shit
it's not that different
chemically from the shit that all the
jays are on right? It's the same thing
right it's the same thing. Right.
It's the same thing.
Fat an hour is the same thing like
I'm not taking prick fat and all though
like no press perks but
that shit damn there's the same thing
like that's the next level of perks though
like
fentanyl is the next level
right like when you choose to stop taking perks
and you can't get it or some shit
Fentanol is your next option
But I ain't going out like that
But a ton of people say
I take perks
But what they're really talking about
Is the fentanyl 30s, right?
Some people take the fentanyl 30s
I ain't on that though
I ain't on that though
You avoid those
You can spot them?
Yeah, I know my shit
Bro, I've been doing this shit
for a long time, bro
I've been doing this shit for a long time
I know my shit
How'd you get into doing drugs in general though
Is that from a young age?
Yeah, I've been getting kicked off
A long time, bro
I already be understanding
I'm a motherfucker to be losing any mind off this shit
bro like you think I lost my mind
So that happened
So you think I don't got all my marbles though
Not gangsta though gangsters
But it's hard to tell because I feel like
As an artist and a rapper
This whole like image
And persona and shit is fire
But as a person that I feel like
We're friends now
It worries me a little yeah
Yeah
But you think I don't got all my marbles though
I mean
you seem like you might be kind of on the cusp
you might have a few marbles left
see they're gonna kill me though for like having to laugh
about somebody who's doing as much drugs
as you seem to be doing
hey yo but uh
no that shit normal though like hang around
when I hang around no that shit normal though like
I've been around that shit all my life bro
I've been around that shit all my life bro
I've been around with the jays all my life bro
like that's just like then I'm a jay
too. But you have a different relationship with them right because it seems like a lot of people
would just ignore them or never want to be on camera with them or whatever but you seem like
super comfortable in that environment. Yeah no they actually my friends bro they actually watch
me grow up and it's crazy fucked up for the whole fuck fucked up thing is uh uh since I'm in
chanpping since I was a young boy since I was chapped 12 13 14 I actually watch they actually
watched me grow up.
I've been serving 80% of them
since I was a kid and now I'm just
a little bit older and they see
me and they hate to see me.
Actually, they actually watch me grow up, bro.
They actually watch you grow up.
Literally though, bro, literally.
They actually see me every single day.
Every single day now.
It's just I pop out here and here.
Do you look down on them?
I don't know.
You feel like you're on the same level
to a certain extent?
Yeah.
I don't feel like I'm on the same level,
but I feel like
you sympathize and empathize
Like they're my friends bro
They're my friends bro I actually like really grow with them
I actually have real relationship with them
I have old stories with them like
I'm really like
That's it I don't know you gotta come down
I gotta bring you to Kensington one day bro
I'm down I'm like really like a fucking
I'm the face of zombie land
You definitely are
I remember I used to be in Philly all the time
In like 2007 2008
and it's like the version of Philly I remember
and then when I see what it looks like
in a lot of your vlogs and videos and shit
I'm just like holy fuck this is like
what Philly used to be like times 10
Kensington always been fucked up though bro
a lot of people to go a lot of people to go visit
Philly Kensington is like a no-go zone
bro like people don't go down there
and I guess most of the people that's from Philly
never even been down Kensington
crazy thing you know it's like nothing
You're down there unless you're going to get drugs or you're doing something that you're not supposed to be doing.
I was seeing a vlog where one of the community activist type dudes, he was saying that it's literally the most dangerous place in America or the most fucked up place in America right now.
Yeah, you can say both.
It's fucked up and dangerous.
Yeah.
You can say that.
You can say that.
Really?
Yeah, you can say that for sure.
So now that you're popping, though, do you kind of keep your distance?
Are you still around, like, all the time?
I don't even feel like I'm popping right now.
Really?
Yeah.
I feel like I ain't even reach where I'm supposed to.
to reach at all.
Like, I feel like I'm like, fucking 20% where I'm supposed to be right now.
Not even.
I'm probably like, just a hell about, like, you just made me hit my 20% mark.
No, but I feel like you're at the level where, like, all the time now I'm, like,
talking to people about you and, like, different people that I know, even out here, are starting
to be like, hey, you heard of him?
Like, check this shit out.
Check this video out.
And, like, the dudes I know who really be listening to, like, what's going on in rap,
they're like definitely getting put on
on like a very consistent basis right now
yeah no my shit definitely
going up right now though and a lot of people
knowing about me bro and I got a hard time
like I got a
real hard time being in contact
I got a hard time communicating
really yeah I don't know what it is
that's just something about me though bro I got a hard time
communicating I don't
I don't use my resources
and I don't communicate
like I can really actually like you might
hit me up on Instagram bro
I just don't communicate good, bro.
I don't know how to explain it.
I just got a hard time communicating.
You're just kind of antisocial or?
You could call it that, though, but I don't even know what it is, though.
You mean like the shit that you're kind of like expected to do as a rapper,
like in terms of doing social shit going out to events,
popping them networking with other rappers, media companies, etc?
Yeah, I got a hard time doing that shit mentally.
eventually I just don't do it.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
Why I don't do it, though?
But I got people that be checking me, though,
and I'd be like, damn, I gotta start doing that shit, though.
Are you like a lab rat when it comes to the music?
Are you just always recording and shit?
Yeah, all day, every day, every day.
I just took a little break, though, for, like, two months, though,
because, like, that shit was getting a hold of me, though,
like, because I can't make music without getting fried.
Really?
Yeah, like, every song I ever made, I was fried, literally,
and I got thousands of the songs.
Literally, I got literally
a thousand of songs, bro.
A thousand, a thousand.
I got a thousand songs.
So you can't imagine making music
without being fucked up.
I can't.
I can't.
Really?
It just doesn't work?
It just won't come out.
I just can't rent.
Damn.
It's always been like that
or it slowly got like that over time?
It always been like that.
Really?
It always been like that.
So how does that make you feel about music?
Like maybe you need to step back from music
to get your help for it?
That's why I took.
Yeah.
But I still do without going to the studio, but I took a two-month break just so I could, like, kind of, like, get my head together and, like, tighten up a little bit, though, bro.
But that's the fucked up thing about that shit, though.
I feel like I can't make music unless I'm proud.
Do you feel like the more fucked up you get, the better the music gets?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Really?
Yeah, hell yeah.
Damn, it's got to be a crazy spot to be kind of stuck in.
I know for sure, like, when I take certain type of drugs, it's like the cheek is it giving me cheek clothes.
Really?
Like, oh shit, he ain't fucking with that shit.
No, he's got an attitude problem with this fucking dog.
Like, if I fucking, like, if I take, I take, I take a fucking, I ain't trying to get it,
I ain't trying to get everybody a cheat coob, but if I take, you ever heard of a G6?
Oh, yeah.
I take a G6, bro, and fucking, I got a whole bunch of them in my pocket right now.
What's it?
Oh, shit.
G6s is.
They glow in the dark and everything.
Wow.
It's a G6.
If I take that shit, bro, and I go to the studio, bro, I'd be saying shit that I didn't even know I knew, though, bro.
Like, that shit crazy word.
Like, I'd be saying shit.
Like, I'd say a word.
Like, just say a word.
Just give me a smart word.
Poodle.
Yeah, like, I'll say, my poodle in the kitchen.
And then I look at on Google and I ain't even know what poodle mean.
And I'd be like, damn, I said the right shit.
Like, what the fuck?
G6 mean me smarter shit.
Oh, what?
So are you, like, listening to the songs the next morning,
and it feels like you're listening to songs from a fucking crazy person you don't even know?
No, like.
Or you know him.
It's like your crazy uncle.
Yeah, like, I'll make a song, bro, and I don't think it's hot.
Then the next day, when I listen to it, I'd be like, what the fuck?
Bro, I'm better than a fucking my favorite artist.
Really?
Yeah, real shit, no bullshit.
That's crazy.
Damn.
So, but when you take that time off from making music, does that feel like you're separating
yourself from a loved one?
Like a lot of rappers I know seem like they would have a hard time
taking a month away from recording.
Yeah, I feel like when I took my break,
like I'm just now getting out of my break a couple days ago.
Bro, after I just took my break and then I've been in the studio lately,
I feel like I lost a little bit of my talent.
Like I got to start sharpening in my pencil and getting my shit back, right?
Really?
And like really getting my shit together so I could get back to how I was rapping before.
Right.
Damn, bro.
That's crazy.
So who are the first people to recognize your talent in terms of locally or other rappers or anything like that?
Like some people that I, like, looked up to, like, some of the big artists that I...
Yeah, because I notice you tapping in with a lot of people and working with a lot of bigger artists.
And they seem like they're reaching out, right?
Yeah, like, one of the people that got me early in my career, though, like, even though, even nowhere in there far, though, but a couple of the people,
but it got me early in my career was um
little uzy vert right
the uzy vert that's my dog
I fought with vert so that's what I really wanted
to ask is what's up with this video
that I watched this you and uzi song
and it got taken down right yeah what's up with that
uh when I was with vert though
after we did the song when we did this
like I don't know if it was him or not though
because we got a good relationship so
I'll be fucked up if it if it was him though bro
that should have
hurt me though if it wasn't because I really
fuck with her and I got
good relationship with him. I love her
though like just he ain't
he didn't even have to do the shit that he did for me
though like he ain't have to do nothing of that shit
he did for me he did a lot
right like we did more than one songs
shot the video and everything
and he did a lot and he told me like I asked him like
you know my cool to
he said yeah that's green light green light
but fucking
I don't know
it might be the label if they don't feel like it got
Clear it from or whatever.
The label hit me up.
The label hit me up and told me like, yo, you got to take it down.
And fuck, y'all, y'all got to take that shit down yourself.
And that's what they did, though.
Really?
But.
Did you reach out to him and ask him what's going on?
Yeah, but I was supposed to link up with him out in New York, though.
Not too long ago, I just never went.
But I don't know, though.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm my own man.
He's my own man.
I probably would have that shit if somebody.
I don't know.
What the fuck?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I fuck with her, though.
That's a hard song.
And he has like two big long-ass verses and it's like- Yeah, that shit was at 700K in six days.
Really?
Oh, it was only out for like a week?
Yeah, it was only out for six days.
Wow.
It was at 700 and the same K.
But I ain't tripping by that shit, though.
Like, I fuck with Rick, though as a person, though.
As a person and as in as a rapper, it's two different things, though.
I don't really, I'm not tripping about that shit, though.
When I see him, I ask him about it, though, but I ain't tripping by that shit.
I fuck with her, though.
I fought with Rick, though.
Right.
I fought with Ray.
He's from Philly.
He made it out, though.
The video's still out there.
It's just like the fans.
A little bit harder for him to find it, right?
Yeah, I know.
I don't even give a fuck about that shit, though.
I fuck with her, though.
I'm glad to even have a song in a video on my phone
where I could watch myself.
Right.
Yeah.
You were getting loaded with Uzi?
No, actually, no.
Nope.
Because, you know, not to put his personal shit out there, though,
but, you know, bro, on probation.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so.
yeah i don't want to put his business out there if he don't want me
he's talked about drugs a lot but then he's also talked about going to rehab
and getting clean and shit yeah yeah that's what he on
i don't know i don't know what he's that these days is yeah yeah i don't know though
i don't really want to put his personal new shit out there though but i fuck with her though
that my dog for real for real for real that my dog right is it uh like on a philly level though
that's the other thing i was thinking is it possible that you guys did the song together
and then he figured out that maybe you got on exactly fuck with the same people
Or is that, am I reaching with that?
Me and Virt, just like, though.
Like, we are our own person.
We ain't, we, we, he ain't on no, he ain't on new gang bang and shit,
none of that type shit.
And I ain't on new gang bang.
Like, I'd be fucking with something like, I don't know, bro.
I don't know, though.
But Verre's own person, I'm my own person, though.
I fuck with Virt, though.
Philly's super political, though, right?
In terms of, like, who people can work with on some street type of?
Yeah, hell yeah.
But I do the fuck I want, though.
ain't nobody gonna tell me shit, bro.
Ain't nobody gonna say another time.
I didn't work with niggas ops and all that.
I don't know.
I do what the fuck I want, bro.
I do what I want, bro.
Ain't nobody can tell me shit.
I'm like really one of them down there for a little, bro.
You ain't nobody gonna tell me shit.
No, definitely.
Okay, so I guess my...
Just to go back to the sort of the life story type thing,
do you drop out high school or do you finish high school?
No, I'll graduate high school.
Okay.
Yeah, I ain't had no choice.
I was in house arrest for two and a half years.
Really?
For what?
I had six dope cases.
Oh, shit, really?
Yeah, I had six heroin cases.
Yeah, I had six dope cases.
I was on house arrest for two and a half years.
Only reason they let me stay on house arrest is because I was smart.
Like, I had good grades.
I ran across country and all that shit.
I played ball.
Like, I was like, really, somebody for real, for real.
My, the principal was to the school and all that shit came to my court dates
and made sure I didn't go to
and jail and that shit.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a lot of attention.
I feel like they probably got so many kids
to worry about.
That's crazy.
They went to your court date.
Yeah, yep.
Yeah.
And my pop, my pop, my pop,
my pop made sure, like my,
I had an, you know,
it's different too.
You got a father in your life, too.
My pop and my mother,
they both coming, you know,
a lot of people don't got that mother
and their father in their life.
My pop and my mother made sure
that they came to my shit.
And the judge looked at me,
different type of way.
How do you have parents feel about where you're at right now?
I know they're happy, but like, they don't know.
Like, they're more focused on me being, uh,
I don't even not explain it.
Like, uh, this is, this, this, this is considered bad than them.
Not to my mom.
My mom, my pop really wants me to be like a fucking lawyer and tell you shit,
though, like my pop, a real good pop.
Like, he really, like, on my hat.
You know what I'm saying?
You still got hope that you can just be a normal person?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you have that hope or do you feel like you're already like,
you're just either going to be a rapper or a criminal?
Nah, I ain't a criminal, but I'm already burnt out, though.
I'm already burnt.
You don't think you can handle being a lawyer?
I don't know.
That's a very different lifestyle.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know if I could really see you being a lawyer.
But I'm only seeing like this version of you.
I don't know if, like, you know, people do make abrupt.
changes in their lives. I've had friends who were getting
fucking loaded for 10 years. And then
one day they just caught a case where they had to get
piss tested and all of a sudden they just
stopped doing drugs and just totally changed their
fucking life. Hey yo, what's
up with Adam? Hey, yo, I seen Adam with
the Speedos on here.
I see Adam. I'm never going to live
that down. I see Adam with the spitos
on like this, yeah.
Like that? Yeah.
That's my April Fool's prank.
No, I don't know. That's
that's not a homosexual.
I don't know.
Straight as a hero.
I don't know.
You can still take me to the block in Philly even after the Speedo photo shoot?
Yeah, you with me, bro.
You're with me, bro.
Okay.
You with me, bro.
Anybody's gonna never try you while you with me, bro.
I'm not gonna be wrapping my arms around the homeless people like you, though.
Bro, why you got to look at them like that, bro?
And I just watch you in the video.
I'm like, bro, you can't just be rubbing on them and shit.
Like, that's my family.
You ever smash an unhoused person?
A woman?
When I was like a kid, though, like, when I was like a kid.
Like, I told you, though, bro.
Back then, they wasn't burnt out like now.
Like, I ain't smashed nothing like that, though, bro.
Like, it's, it's, like, back then they was on these shit, bro.
They was on these shit, bro.
Like, they was on these shit, bro.
But maybe it was because you were younger and you didn't have the taste in women that you have now.
Yeah, I guess you can see that, too.
You can see that.
But I wasn't just random.
around swinging dick to all the jays though you're like i ain't one of them no
bro once in a while you know the feelings right the g6 hitting right
oh my god that's so fucking funny bro um
you know yeah they say this look like you right here bro uh oh
they're all in the comments this is what they call the m 22
right here oh shit that is definitely a
drug addict.
I fuck with him now.
He's got his eyes rolled
in the back of his head and shit. Oh my God.
That definitely does kind of look like me.
What the fuck?
What's this?
When you throw that up, what's that?
Kensington.
That's Kensington?
Holy shit. This guy's in rough shape.
Poor bastard.
But you ever feel bad?
Because, like, you know, you're the guy
who kind of sold him the shit that got him
like that, right?
Not right, man.
At least, like, you know, at one time.
not maybe not him, but like at some point in time,
you were the guy who was, you know,
I feel like every pusher at a certain point,
you got to kind of deal with the feeling of like,
damn, I got this person to this point.
They got me to this point too.
I got to this point too.
Damn, I'm trying to show you this video, bro.
The way they be looking down there, bro,
how their hands look, bro.
How the crocodile trinkalizer eats out of their skin and all that shit, bro.
Right.
This shit crazy, bro.
But do you got hope for these people or for your area or in your mind?
Is it just like, it's over?
It's just what it is, bro.
It ain't no changing that shit, though, bro.
Like this.
Look at this shit, bro.
This down Kinnitus.
Zombie land.
Well, they just got a fire going on the ground?
Mm-hmm.
What's the fire for?
There's fire everywhere, bro.
So they don't get cold.
Holy shit.
I'm going to text this to myself so we could put in the video.
And so you can have my number.
Yeah, I'm a key number of one of the J's out there.
But you feel like the gap between you and them is like slowly closing sometimes?
What you mean?
Like you could just end up kind of like being more on their side than the side that you're currently on.
I hope not, bro, but I would never do certain things, though, that it make me that.
Like, well, I do, though, but like, nah, I don't.
I don't know. I hope not, bro.
You feel like you know the line that you need to not go over?
I do, bro, but I hope not, though, bro.
You need these people that, these people that's like that, bro, and you just say when it was like
22, 23, and be like, yo, bro, when I'm 30, I'm a beat.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I hope not, though, bro.
Well, that's a crazy thing.
When I'm watching these vlogs films, like, in the hood there, it's like a lot of these
homeless people have, like, plans in their head for how they're going to get out of this and
how they're going to be something at some point.
But it's like they're all just like waiting for the perfect moment to escape.
But realistically, the drugs just keep getting more and more powerful with these
generations that goes by and it keeps getting harder and harder for people to like find
a way to slip out of that.
Yeah.
It ain't no coming out of that shit, bro.
For most people, yeah.
Yeah, it's just deaf.
There ain't no coming out of that shit, bro.
Right.
I mean, if you do, though, you're still going to be,
you're still going to be a certain way, though.
Like, that shit, that shit fucked up, bro.
That shit fucked up, though, bro.
That shit fucked up.
I don't even really know how to explain that shit.
That shit fucked up.
This is the fucked up part, just kind of how you're so numb to the experience
that a lot of these people are having,
and you just have kind of given up hope for a lot of them?
Yeah, I ain't numb.
no bro I'm not numb to it
I'm not numb to it though bro like
that shit hurt me sometimes too like
I actually seen people I just
was crying though like two weeks ago bro
I just seen somebody that I actually
grew up with that was really like hanging out with me
every day like one of my friends
and I was walking by and I was
big taking a video with a couple
people and I seen him in the corner just
tripping out shaking skits and
going crazy and I seen him and I'm looking at him like damn
what the fuck you're doing bro
and it was actually like one of my friends
like somebody that was really getting money back in the day
and I seen them bro that shit fuck me up bro
that shit fucked me up bro that shit hurt my heart
and just knowing that there's nothing that you could do
to make him jerk himself out of the situation
and all I can do is give him a couple dollars
and he's gonna go back and do the same shit though
that shit hurt me bro
damn that should hurt me it's a lot of people
I got a lot of friends that I grow with
Bro, that was making money with me and doing stuff.
And that shit fucked up, bro.
That shit fucked up.
Damn.
Look at the whole, I don't know.
I'm going to show you something right here.
I feel like you're, okay.
Look at this.
Look at this hand, bro.
Look at her hand.
Look.
Oh, well.
It should be stupid.
Oh, yeah, play it.
It's the ear freezing.
Hold on a look.
Just leave a letter play.
Oh, my God.
Oh, fuck.
This is smaller, though.
It's a lot of.
other shit like that, bro.
See, this is the shit that they can't put on YouTube in terms of like,
it's just basically like a woman's hand that is like almost like rotten.
Like, you can see like red like cracks in her skin and it's all green and scaling.
It's a zombieing.
She's like not even bothering to cut her nails or nails are super long and shit.
That's just one out of a thousand, bro.
What the fuck.
That shit, that shit hurt sometimes too, though, bro.
Right.
Yeah, like that shit hurt.
Like, just talking about that shit.
That shit hurt a little bit, though, too, bro.
You might not tell, though, but that shit really hurts sometimes, too, bro.
You get hate from people because they feel like you're using that shit as, like, marketing.
I'm not using it.
I'm not using this.
I'm not using this.
I'm showing my real life, bro.
That's really where I came from.
I watched this scene this year all my life, bro.
The more successful you become and the more further that you get away from, like, being on the block every day,
the more that people are going to be like he's using this shit.
No, I'm never going to leave a block.
I'm never going to leave a black, bro.
I can't have a trillion dollars, bro.
I'm going to be down there.
bro. I'm gonna be down there, bro.
Every, I'm gonna be down there, bro.
Every time.
I don't go nowhere else.
When I'm in Philly, I don't do nothing else,
but stay down, Kensington.
You can ask my brother where I'm at all day.
Kensington. I don't leave Kensington.
But the bigger your name gets,
the more you're at risk being in that environment, right?
I'm gonna be in Kensington.
I promise you, bro, you give me a billion dollars.
I'm still going to be in Kensington.
I might travel, come over here.
Once I leave him from here and I go back to the Philly,
bro.
my first place is Kensington
That's just where you're comfortable at
That's where I'm from, that's home
So you think if you move to L.A.
and you got a big house
And you, you know
Had palm trees outside
You can go to the beach
That wouldn't really do it for you
No
It would though, bro
But I'm always going to...
It'd be fun for a little while, but that's just like a little
vacation to me, bro
I'm always going to come back to Clinton
That's just where I'm from, bro
That's where I'm always going to be there, bro
right from bro there's niggas out there the niggas is out there
trapping for me bro the niggas protect me i don't need
i come i'll go out there and i'm and i got my shit on me and all that
and i got my niggas with me that's gonna blow shit for me
bro but i don't even need a gun when i'm out there bro
a nigga woke up to me wrong bro i just a thousand niggas is going
run down there i'm i really wanted them down there
bro for real though bro i ain't even gonna i'm really like that for real
for real for down there for real no boy shit
respect i'm really one of them
was that was like a little baby one
yeah
like depending on where you're at
you take a different amount
no it's just for y'all so
you ain't got to cut a big part
they don't got to cut a big portion out of it
I'm just have them blur it every time
they can just listen in
I can't get on the moral
high road though because I had
you gotta hit it one time bro for the camera
bro you got it one time bro
you got it one time bro
there's one time for the camera bro
You got it one time.
Just tilt it to the side or what?
Just twist it.
Twist it this way.
You're gonna be offended if I rub this off?
No, for sure.
I do every time when somebody else it is.
I twist it and then just suck like this.
Don't know.
Whoa.
There no ditty.
No ditty.
No ditty.
No ditty.
No ditty.
Uh-oh.
Don't do no sucking.
Bro.
That was out.
That was that.
Twist it more.
Adam, you know what the fuck that shit is, bro.
You did it like you know what you did.
He didn't.
He know what it is.
You're.
I only ever done it out the balloon or the little cartridge thing.
I never,
I never did it like.
See, my voice turning all crazy.
Like you, I sound like Cardi.
What's going on?
I'm going to start the opium with this voice.
You know what the fuck that shit is.
So everybody at home can kind of review my behavior right now.
Okay, now I'm feeling it.
All right.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, one more, though.
One more.
You're 22.
One time.
You add him 22, you got hit two two.
Two two.
One time is like, oh, all right, he's just giving it a shot.
You got to hit it two times.
No, by that logic, I got to hit it.
22 times and then I'm gonna die.
All right, but 2-2, Joe, just one, 2-2-2.
Why am I letting this junkie fucking convince me to do this shit?
God damn it.
You better blur my ass so bad, Michael.
All right, now you add a 22 now.
I overdid it.
I did it too fat.
What the fuck?
How the fuck am I letting him do it?
You add him 44 now.
Adam 44.
I'm gonna torch my whole reputation.
I'm supposed to be like Charlemagne, bro.
I'm supposed to be at the BLM rally.
I'm supposed to be on some bullshit, bro.
I'm supposed to be like helping to change the community,
he not just getting down with him.
Sure to me.
God damn it.
There's so much worse than it looks, too, because I'm watching his home.
He hit it, like, way more times than you.
You keep that shit on you every day?
Yeah, I just butt this shit from my hair.
Oh, so you had to land in the plane, and then you already had a spot picked out?
Yeah, I got my black took driver.
I got my black truck driver.
He's driving.
Oh, that guy's the driver.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I was like, damn, he's really lit if he got this dude over here.
Holden the thing for him.
But that's the driver, okay.
Oh, no, that's my brother.
Not him.
I'm talking about the driver.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I can see why you guys have such a fucking issue with this, too, though,
because you do it once or twice, and then you're like, oh, yeah, I could definitely
keep doing that.
And that's for you.
Because one time I was with YSL Duke at the YSL mansion back in the day, a couple years ago
before the Rico and everything, I seen him go through a whole fucking case of Whippets.
while recording one verse.
Yeah, free thug, free thug, free thug, free duke.
Free thug, too, yeah, free thug.
I dropped the whole song called Free thug.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, there's one thing I wanted to ask you about is
when I was listening to your most recent tape,
there's a song called Long Live Cheese,
and I didn't realize that you had a real relationship
with Gilly's son who got killed maybe a year ago
or six months ago or so shit like that.
How did you know him, and what kind of person was he?
I was in the fucking, um, that's crazy thing, though.
I was in the studio.
I started recording.
It was a nigga that, it was a nigga that run it,
running his car is out.
He rented his own cars out.
Okay.
And he told me like, yo, I got my own studio.
Bang, so I started renting cars from him.
Then I started recording over there.
And my whole plan was to rent cards from him and take one of his cars.
So we,
end up going to the studio, boo,
I end up seeing cheese there,
and I'm like, damn, what's up cheese?
Hold on, first start,
let me start it all over.
Let me start it all over.
First, I used to play basketball with
cheese back when we were kids.
I used to play basketball with cheese.
Cheese was good at ball.
I used to play basketball with cheese
when we were young boys.
Bang.
Then I started, but later on, though,
I started running the car from somebody
and he owned his own studio.
So I'm running in the cars, bang,
and he had his own studio,
and he was already back in cheese.
He was already putting money behind cheese,
helping cheese with his own little shit.
Him and his brother Mac.
Did you always know he was Gilly's son?
No, I never knew that.
Really?
He kept the kind of low-key?
Yeah, yeah, yep.
Yeah, they never really liked it to just say like,
yo, yeah, I'm doing it.
They wanted to build their own name.
Right, right.
So, because there's a couple of them is Mac,
cheese, and it's New York, L.A.
Okay.
She's big, too.
She's big.
Yeah, you got to look into her.
New York, New York, L.A., she's big.
She's big.
She just dropped the song with Brent Fiatz,
A. Sack Rocky.
Yeah, like, she's big.
Yeah, like, that's my baby.
I was my baby, L.A.
That's my baby girl.
I was with cheese at the studio
at the dude that rented the cars out and shit,
and we were chilling, bang.
Me and Cheese, and I'm doing a couple songs,
and I had took,
and I was renting the cars off of one of the dudes
who owned the studios and I took one of his cars and I kept it.
He mad at me for stealing in the niggins cars.
He's like a police dog.
Yeah.
I was already,
I had a scenario in my head where I was like,
what if Skrilla jumps out of his seat and can't handle the dog coming up to him?
Because that's going to be crazy to me if you're so comfortable with the Jays,
but not comfortable having a dog come sniff you.
But you actually seem kind of comfortable with us.
I got two huskies.
I got two Siberian Huskies.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Nice.
But fucking, I was in the studio with cheese for the last couple days, though, like, in the
studio where the dude who ran cars out, and he had the studio.
I was in the studio for the last couple days.
We were in the studio making songs back-to-back, boom, boom, boom.
But before we even made our first song, the bull who runs the car out, he was asking
me, like, yo, you could do a song with cheese.
And I looked at him like, bro, cheese is my fucking man.
I do a song with cheese.
Fuck, if you ask me, bro, if cheese asks me,
I'll do a song with cheese all day.
So me, I'm cheese that a song, bang.
And the nigga who, um, I was renting a car from after we did our songs,
boo-boo-boo-bo-boom.
I took one of the dudes' cars and I kept the car.
And I never, and I never gave it back to him.
I was driving back and forth from L.A. and the Johnny,
going to the studio.
L.A. and the Johnny.
I was running around everywhere, doing everything in the Johnny.
You were driving back and forth from Philly to L.A.
Yeah, and the Johnny.
Why?
Oh, and New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, and the Johnny.
Like, just because this was before I signed and everything, I was spending all my money in the rapping.
And I was starting to get fucked them.
I wasn't trying to buy.
And I just smacked my Durango out.
But I got a garage where I got five smacked out cars in the garage.
Why not just get on a plane?
Because I don't put insurance on it.
No, to New York, to New York.
Oh, oh, you're begging for it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I got five cars that I smacked out inside a garage.
Shout out my man Dennis.
He got all my cars in his garage.
I got, I'm the first nigga in Philly
with a Fisker karma.
Why don't you get insurance?
I just,
a dick kid.
I'm just a dick kid.
You got a hard time thinking about the future?
Yeah, I just,
just in the moment.
Yeah.
You ever heard of a Fisker Karma?
No, what's that?
I got a Fisker karma
and I wrapped in orange
and it's an electric and gas car.
When the sun out, it collects solar,
it's got a solar panel on the roof
where it collects energy
where it would never die.
And it collects gas.
too. Fisker Carmen, bro.
Holy shit. It's the highest car.
And I got two charges
in there. I got a caddy truck. I got a whole bunch of cars in the garage
that I smacked out. Just doing dick hair
shit. But fucking
but fuck all that shit though.
Me and Cheese did a couple songs together.
And
then I said to say that shit happened, though.
That shit happened. And I was just about to
drop my
my tape, album tape,
whatever you want to call it, Underworld.
And I'm the first, and I'm the person that started that dark music, that dark sound.
Like, you literally tuned into this in my music.
I'm the first person that started that dark.
Very dark.
Yeah, I'm the first person to start.
And then on top of that, I'm talking about my religion, my Areeches and everything.
Like, I'm talking, I'm, like, that's really my, I started that shit.
But fucking, uh, while I was putting my, I opened my tape together.
cheese had died two, three days before that.
And I'm like, yo, I got to put cheese on there just to keep his name alive and everything.
You know, I just felt some type of way and I just wanted to put cheese on there.
And my tape, I was trying to drop my tape the next three, four days.
But I had to get it clear.
You know, I had signed.
So I had to get it clear through somebody that cheese, so-called manager or whatever.
So I was trying to contact everybody.
I was trying to contact Gilly, Wallow.
I was talking to New York, L.A.
Gilly daughter.
I was talking to everybody that I knew from cheese.
And nobody was getting back to me.
So we ended up getting in contact with Cheese Mother.
And she just was like, yo, yeah, you could drop the song,
but we need the royalties.
We need to have a certain percentage of the royalties, like 50% or 60%.
And I'm like, damn, that's a lot.
But I'm with whatever.
Y'all can have.
100% though just because of what happened
I'm doing it for him
right so she end up
clearing it and doing everything and I end up
being able to put cheese onto my
album and that's what I really wanted
so shout out to cheese though
and Gilly and everybody though but
that's what I really wanted though just for him
though but rest of peace cheese
though long live cheese though right
nah man that was that was fucked up
though because he was a good person he wasn't on
another he was a good dude though right
he didn't he didn't deserve that shit
really because that's
a lot of people have kind of wondered is
what kind of life was he
living that, you know, might have
ended him up in that kind of situation.
Nah, he wasn't even living that type of
life, though. Like, he was just a regular
Philly dude though, like, you know what I'm saying? You do
regular Philly shit, though, like, little
selling little wee, little, little, little small
little shit, though, but he wasn't running out here
on his little King Vind shit trying to kill her.
He was on some regular, you know what I'm saying?
I was, like, I fought with cheese, though. Cheese wasn't
on no John-ass shit, though.
Like, cheese and real nigga, like, I fought with him.
You know, he's staying in his place.
Cheese, cheese, good dude.
One of the things I saw that was, like, real disturbing was that, you know, it's always, like, when somebody gets killed or somebody dies, just like a competition to come up with the worst fucking thing you could possibly say about it on the internet.
But a lot of people were trying to put it on Gilly and say, like, oh, you abandoned your kid or some shit as if he wasn't his own man.
Like, he didn't want to go just follow his dad around.
He was trying to build his own thing, you know?
Yeah, no, he definitely, they definitely ain't one of the new.
Definitely, I ain't even trying to waste the fucking interview talking about somebody, but like, he definitely wasn't on that trying to be.
He was trying to be his own man, though.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm not trying to be my dad's dad.
My dad's baby boy, you feel what I mean?
Like, like, I got a father too.
I'm not trying to, I'm not, I want everybody look at me and be like, yo, there go.
What's his name, dad?
Like that, you know what's his name?
Dad?
Like that, you're even saying that he wasn't just like making a super known and talking about that being his dad, especially given the fact that his dad has become like a really
fucking big deal in rap over the past however many years.
That to me just makes me think like,
oh, this is a dude who was trying to carve his own path.
If anything, he was probably kind of like inspired by seeing his pops be able to do it.
Yeah, yeah, facts.
That's exactly what he was on.
No, that's exactly what he was on.
He was just trying to make his own route.
He definitely was trying to make his own path.
That's why I really fuck with him, though.
Yeah, he just wasn't trying to be his dad's baby boy, though.
He wasn't trying to be his dad's baby boy.
He wasn't trying to be no fucking King Combs.
the tribunal king comes
But I mean
It's crazy seeing people say that shit
Because that's like how
What percentage of us
Taking our father's footsteps
Like very very few people
Just like line up behind their dad
To like get into the business that he was in
Yeah
Only person I can know that
That I can say that did that
That was like
That's doing that
It's like LeBryson
Like
Yeah
Because I don't even know his name
I don't even know his son name
I just know that that's
Yeah that's yeah that's
Brian Jr.
Yeah.
Right.
But shit, if you don't make it into the NBA,
you're going to have to figure out his own thing.
And it's like he might not want it to be 100% based on his dad's fame, you know?
Yeah.
No, real shit, facts.
Yeah.
Yo, how long you'd be taking to drop your interviews, though, like, because somebody,
one of my men did they join.
My man, Prince J.
did this join.
You ain't never dropped Prince Trey.
Yeah, we did.
Oh, y'all did?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it ain't go up crazy, though?
It did pretty good.
It might have taken, like, a week or two to get it out.
but I'll try to get this out within a week.
We got a shitload on deck, so.
Hey, yo, though, Bernardo, I seen you with the little speedos on.
Yo, you be doing, yo, you be doing to the, you be, yo, you be going to the swingers clubs?
Not, not yet.
Not yet.
I do want to check it out, though.
Oh, yo, you, you're one of them type boys.
They got some popping ones out here.
You're in the tape boys.
Yo, what's you?
Yo.
The kinky rabbit.
I heard a lot about the kinky rabbit.
I'm going to check the kinky rabbit out at some point.
What type girls are you like, though?
shit
I was thinking about that the other day
I don't think I got the type
I like them all
You're your girl
Your wife let you
Your wife let you have a threesomes
Yeah
Yeah
Oh yeah
Yeah
Mostly on camera
Yeah that's heavy
We don't have to be
Going out of our way
To fuck too many broads off camera
That's heavy
I wish I wish I had
You can have
One of your white friends
Oh yeah for sure
Yeah I knew you when you're
They LA
Bro I wish you were here
Last week
Because we went to a party
Last Friday
Like a big porn party
and I had all the homies in there
and they never seen this many fucking
bad bitches who were
sex workers in their life.
Like they were loving it.
Yeah, you know, once I let them hit this whip
they're gonna be lost of their mind.
There was a room
and I had a little sign on the door
and it said the drug room
and you go into the room
and there's just a guy sitting there
with like two bodyguards
and he just got a suitcase
and he's like, yeah, we got these roxies,
we got these Zans, we got these...
I know who you're talking about.
What's the name?
I don't fucking not.
I didn't have this name.
everybody took it. No, that's how old dude.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
He's like a famous drug dealer, then that's insane.
Yeah, I know you're talking about, though, bro.
I know you're talking about, bro. I know you're talking about.
I didn't indulge, but I definitely seen a couple of all the homies, like,
immediately pull out their phone and start memoing the motherfucker and walk out with a pocket
full of candy.
Yeah, I know exactly you're talking about.
That is insane if you know who I'm talking about.
That's crazy. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yo, that's crazy.
You really be around.
Bro, if I had you in that environment, I feel like you would have fucking started shopping.
I would have took his whole suitcase.
I would have took his whole suitcase.
I'm assuming the guys standing next to him with shooters.
Because I've been to like-
Shit, I went to the shooters too.
They just ain't pull up yet.
I've been to some, like, cool Hollywood parties,
but I've never been to one where it was like that obvious of like,
oh, hey, whatever drugs you need, go for it.
Yeah.
You're funny.
Okay.
So I wanted to ask you this.
it's been in debate a lot over the past couple weeks
what is meek mill's status in philadelphia do the streets still fuck with him has this
whole ditty thing put a real chink in his armor what's your thoughts
i don't know why philly don't fuck with me i don't know why philly don't fuck with him like
philly philly be on some weird shit philly philly a crab in the barrel city philly
philly just want to bring everybody down like i could do one thing i could do one little thing
And Phillies, that's the first thing they're going to do.
That's all they're going to talk about is me, Skrilla, just to bring me all the way down to the bottom and make me not nobody no more.
They like to see you rise, but then they like to see you crash as well.
But like literally knew Meek, I don't know, I don't know Meek personally to say like what he'd do for this, this and the third though.
But personally, though, I fuck with me.
Meek, a good dude though.
Like all that p.
Did he do all I don't believe that shit, though.
Me neither.
Me personally, I don't believe it, though.
but me
I fuck with me
Meek made it out the hood
he changed laws
He didn't have to change laws
For dirt bikes and all
He didn't have to do the shit that he did
Meek already got bread though bro
But I fuck with me
Though personally though I fuck with me
Meek even reaches out to me
And talk to me like I talk to Meek
Really?
I just was talking to Meek
Not so long ago, yeah
Like matter of fact
I might to call me
Oh my God
Let me see if he ain't answer
That would be legendary
Let me see
Look at last
Meek Mill
What would I ever say
If I got a chance to meet Mick Mill
I really don't know
Nah
I met Rick Rossi the other day
Yeah
It was kind of legendary
Yeah you met Rose
For the first time
Yeah
At the porn awards
At the what
At the porn awards
He was performing
Yeah
That's crazy
I was in good with the bodyguards
I knew the bodyguards
On some gangster shit
So
Locked right in
You know
Not really 100% sure
How he felt about me
I'm pissed time in meek.
I'm about to see if you're going to answer.
I got to get meek on his drone.
Yes.
Yes, we do.
If he'll answer, look, watch.
If he'll answer, I got another way to get in contact with him.
I'm going to put him.
I'm getting meek on his drone.
I'm getting meek on his drone.
I know that Meek is super petty
because he followed academics his ex-girlfriend
like a day or two ago.
So that's, she's a messy one.
So I don't know exactly what he got planned,
but people were pointing out
on the Reddit that he followed her. I'm like, oh, Lord, what's going to happen?
Hold on, look, watch. I'm going to call my old hair. I might to call my dog Mike Knox,
Mike Knox. That's me. That's meke folks.
I'm Mike Knox. Yeah, hold on, look.
Watch, I'm out of getting him. Let me call him Knox right now. I'm calling Mike Knox, we know.
Oh, he ain't fucking with Mike Knox.
Hey, yo, hey, Knox.
Hey, yo, look. Hey, look. This is my dog, Mike Knox right here. Look. What's up, Jay?
Hey yo
Hey yo, I'm on Adam 22, you're
Oh, what's up, man
What's up, Adam?
What's she?
Hey, what's going on
Jay?
How you doing?
Hey, yo, look,
I'm telling them
how Philly fucked up
Like with that crap in the bed
Like, Philly,
Once you do one thing wrong, bro,
Philly gonna try to make that shit
to the max, bro,
and try to make you where you,
you know what I'm saying?
The same shit with meek,
you're,
Hey, yo, I'm trying to get meek on this zone.
You don't think meek can answer?
Yeah, y'all, y'all,
Y'all y'all not talking talking like that, though?
No?
All right, all right, all right.
So me, not going to get on the jack then, right?
You pick the wrong connect.
Oh, no, I can't speak for him.
All right, no, but, yo, look, look, this is my dog, Mike Knox, though.
This is my old-haired Mike Knox.
What you're doing?
You're doing the show right now?
Yeah, I'm on the interview.
No, I'm on it right now.
He's doing the craziest interview you're ever going to see in your life.
I know it's crazy, man.
That's what's up, man.
That's the face of zombie land
Listen, everything about him is authentic and real
He knows every fucking crack fiend
In his neighborhood by first and last name
Yeah, he told me he smashed a couple of them too
Yeah, I don't know about that
I don't know about that
I see y'all though man, see what y'all doing man
Keep working, man
Appreciate you, G
Alright, let you talk in
I'm gonna cut you once I leave from here
Wow, that was
That was very interesting
And the Meek Mill hive, you're going to see that.
They're going to dissect exactly what just happened on that phone call.
Yeah, no, me can't get in on the day.
You cool with Quilly?
Quilly.
Meek-Cooly, yeah.
Because Quillie been on the anti-Meek Mill tour.
Nobody's going harder on him than Quillie.
I fought with me and I fought with Quill.
Quill of my dog.
Quill didn't pick me up from my crib.
When I wasn't even popping, he picked me up from my crib.
And I talked.
You got cool on me?
It would is it
Quilly doing numbers
His interview that we just did with them
44
It went up
He did AC
That shit went up
He got like 700K on AC
I think he got like
4,500K on me and
Wack show
This is that
I see he needed
Say cheese too
Coley's on a tour
And this dog is thirsty as fuck
For some attention right now
I think every two weeks
Yeah we got a guy
Who just comes by
Trims them up
Yeah my sister
I just went to the Rick Orister
They ain't had shit in there, John
For real?
Yeah, I took like six Zanis
Before I got on the flight,
bro, I was rock.
Holy shit.
Six.
You're like a throwback
to the old school SoundCloud days,
to be honest.
You're getting overloaded.
Stivo?
I know Stivo.
Stevo cannot be around
this type of shit, though.
You can't even smoke weed
before you do a Steveo interview.
He needs it to be a clean environment for him.
But I could definitely
tap you in with Steve. You might not like his
vibe, though, because he's going to be trying to get you to get clean.
He's not going to be, like, laughing at you, taking whippets.
Yeah, he's talking about him.
He's right back.
Hold on how much is he? I'm calling you again.
I feel like I might have Quilly's number two.
Maybe we could double team him.
No, I'm calling him.
He's going to say, oh, shit, no ditty.
No ditty.
Hey, yo, twin.
Hey, yo.
Hey, we heard you were talking bad about the chasers.
What's heading?
Oh, man, never that had him.
Hey, yo, hey, Adam, hey, Adam, I said, I said,
I said, Quilling not answered my Jack ring now.
He must not got this number.
Adam told him, hold on, I might call him too.
We're about to double team.
I said, no ditty, you're.
No ditty, you're.
We ain't on that, you're?
Yeah, I definitely had this number right here.
I had another number.
No, I already know.
Hey, yo, no, dog.
You know, you know, you already know.
I love you, too, bloody.
We're going to carry you, man.
Make sure you set that shit on fire you up there.
Well, you want the people to know about Skrilla.
I'm already on it.
What'd you say, Adam?
What do you think the people need to know about Skrilla?
Man, how he got more pain, how he got another side of him, man,
and he got a whole, he got a lot of another, a different catalog of music
that people ain't here that I heard already.
Oh, really?
You feel me?
He ain't released that side of it yet, you know what I mean?
Oh, shit.
A lot of people think he just could make one sound of music, you know, man?
Hey, cool, I told him.
I told you, I told them, bro, you came and got me from my crib, bro.
My literally my crib.
Yeah, my career, bro.
And we went to the trenches, bro.
Bro, this thing ain't you being one.
This thing can't even want to leave.
I'm fried right now.
This nigga wasn't even leaving leave.
You can't even talk.
Yeah, yo, I'm fried, bro.
I'm tripping.
This shit.
Beating my ass here.
You were fucking with the zombies?
Duh.
Bullshit.
This nigga ain't even want to leave, Kansas.
bro.
Damn.
It's nothing but love, man.
I met his mom,
his pop,
everything, man.
I'm coming to Philly,
man.
I got to tap in.
Real shit,
bro.
Italian,
we're comfortable down there,
bro.
We don't need no pole
none of that.
You know we come
with the polls,
but we don't even need
that shit.
With crocs on.
We can walk around
with crocs on,
Adel.
Toclathas.
Oh, fire.
I'm going to start
growing my beard out now.
You don't even need
none of that year.
You don't need a beard
to walk around Philly?
You don't need a beard to walk around Philly?
Shit.
What?
You don't need none of that, you're
When I used to go to Philly
Beards in the building, bro.
I get a feeling that shit has changed.
You already know.
Yo, I'm gonna cut you once I leave.
I love you, you, you're it.
I love you too, ma'all.
All right, Twain.
So you're saying that in Philly now
is not as common
to just see a shitload of motherfuckers
with big ass beards
because back in the day,
that was kind of the image.
No, that ain't.
No.
Stapha'u.
So you could be
on your Muslim tip,
You could be on your dean, as I say.
But you don't have to be rocking the beard necessarily.
Fuck, no.
Oh, okay.
Fuck no.
I had freeway on here the other day.
No, you didn't.
Legend.
Legend.
I love Freeway.
Did you grow up on that type of shit?
It's a little too old.
You know, it's crazy.
Freeway daughter,
Freeway daughter went to my school with me.
I used to see Freeway once he picked up his daughter from it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I used to see, I used to see her once he picked her up from school every day.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
Every day.
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
Yeah, yeah.
And I know freeway too, though.
That's a legend right there, man.
He fucking has lived through some of the craziest shit, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like, he's accomplished a lot, but with the kidney shit and losing so many people and stuff,
like his, his whole story was intense, man.
That's a, that's a legend to me.
I'm never, never going to forget that interview.
Yeah, that real shit.
Definitely.
Um, but, uh, okay.
Where were we?
Where were we?
Let me get, let me get back to my question list here.
Um, let's see.
What we got here?
Oh, so how'd you end up tapping in with, uh, G. Herbo?
Yeah, but, uh, I feel like he's got a crazy track record for tapping in with artists
before they really fully blow up and blessing him with a feature.
Yeah, no, crazy thing is, I love Gerebo.
That's my dog, for real, bro.
For real, he did a lot for me.
He don't even know what he did, bro.
He did a lot for me all.
He don't even dig.
but you want me to tell you what's crazy though
I was coming out here to shoot my video
with G Herbo on
Hold on hold on here's it
Yeah
Hello
When can I see you
Oh not right now I'm doing an interview right now
I'm doing the interview right now
Hold on
Hey
I'm coming out here
I came out here to shoot my video with her
On the 13th
Oh for real?
Yeah
And we had Erjohn, so I'm just like, damn, I'm coming out here.
Yeah, tomorrow.
Oh, shit.
Tomorrow. Yeah, yep.
I'm shooting my video with Herb will tomorrow.
I'm going to hit you.
Yeah, yep.
Yeah, so I just came out here.
So I'm like, damn, let me make sure I make my flight out here, though, before I even,
so I could just knock two things at once.
Right.
Yeah, but I'm shooting my video with Herb, though tomorrow, though.
But you really tapped in with Chicago, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love, yeah, Herb, that's my dog.
And Minisky, no limit, Minsky.
That's my brother, bro.
Okay.
Minsky, once I came out here, nothing but love.
bro Minsky made sure I was cool
I'm saying
Mainsky really that's really my brother
That was the first person I called when I came out here
I won't know this nigga to call me back
I just talked when you're supposed to come over here
And meet me over here
Who?
Mainsky
Oh okay
No living Minsky
Nice
That's what's up
Why were you a pay me Scrilla originally
And why did you decide to change it?
That was just my Instagram name
Oh yeah that was just my Instagram name
I really came up on my name
Scrilla because you had
a clue line like when I had a cool line when I was a kid called screla gorilla oh okay and I just was like
fuck it let me make my name scler and I just made my name scler are you a big failure of the
kodak black song yeah that was the first kodak black song I ever heard back in the day yeah yeah
scrella yeah yeah classic yeah that's one of my favorite songs too it's kind of a crazy rap
name for you though because I feel like scurilla is sort of like a bling bling get money ass name
and then you I feel like you
represent a different side.
The illish shit I seen was you rapping in front of a big
ass fire with a blanket over you.
Yeah.
Like, I was like, damn, he really trying to summon
the energy.
Yeah, scurl a block hot.
Yeah, my song, Black Hot.
Yeah.
What is, um, what's putting a crouton on the glizzy?
What's a crouton?
I eat a lot of salads, but...
Put a crouton back to glizzy.
That shit.
I never put a crout on a hot dog, though.
No, pause, no ditty.
Oh, it's a different type of...
We don't need no switches on no hot dogs
It's like, Glyzzy?
No, you know, you know the croutine
It's croutine like a little square, right?
Right.
Put a crouton back to Glyze
You know the switches, the switches.
Ah, switches on the glizzy.
You see, I trolled you into explaining it?
Yeah.
You ain't showing me.
I would explain it regularly here.
No, that was funny, though.
As soon as I heard crouton, I was like,
damn, they really got some wild slang out there.
What's some slang I should know in Philly?
Dick here
Dicket
We started no ditty
Uh
Quilly
He's got a living off that soon
Yeah
No ditty
Um
What's
Bippin
Bippin?
Bippin
Your perspective
Like bippin
Like you just bippin
Like the shit you got on
You fly you trim
You bippin you bippin
You like that
Like bippin like
I'm saying like
I'm bippin like
I'm bippin like
Out here Bippin is when they take
The spark plug
and they smash the window of your car
and take all your shit.
Nah.
Bipping is when you take the spark plugs,
you take the whip and all that and now you bippin
when you drive in that,
now you trim,
you bipping,
like,
you're saying,
like bipping is when you just come in trim,
like you fly,
you got,
all right,
this type,
you bippin,
like you got roly,
bust down,
chain bust down,
like you're bippin,
like when you,
you're saying,
like you trim.
That's bippin.
That's bippin.
That's bippin what it mean in Philly.
I'm going to remember that.
Yeah,
Like, and me and Hood Tali, free Hood Tali, free my dog, Hurtali.
Uh-huh.
You know who the Hurtali is?
No.
That's my dog.
Tap in.
Hurtali.
He booked right now.
Okay.
Hurtali.
That's my dog.
Free Hurtali.
And free my man, 40-Oti, too.
40-Oty.
I heard you talking about the 40-Oty a lot in the song.
Yeah, 40-Ody.
That's my dog.
Free 40-Ody and free hop-out blick.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Got it.
So where it is?
You were cool with Kwani at a certain point, and then y'all fell out.
And I noticed.
And I noticed that you were saying that you invented the dark music in Philly.
And that was that,
that was the origin of you guys having issues with each other, right?
Was that he was claiming it?
Yeah.
Look, well, I don't even really like to talk about this shit, though, with me and Quani, though,
because, like, it's just a lot of little nuts shit, though, but, like,
my entourage and his entourage, you know what I'm saying?
Street shit, yeah.
But at the beginning of me and Quani was cool, but, like, Quaniariari, though.
bro, but Quani not,
Quiney just a bitch, bro.
Really?
Yeah, Quiney a bitch.
That's just what it is, bro.
He cool, and all, though, bro, but he's just a bitch.
He just threw little shit that bitch's dude, though.
Like, you feel me?
Like, Connie just, but he's cool, though, bro.
I don't want to put no durn in the name, though,
like, and all that shit, though, because I'm fucking around with the same.
Matter of fact, Quiney's just a bitch, bro.
I keep thinking you're going to try to clean it up here,
but yeah, I ain't want to pull his card, though,
but Quiney a bitch, bro.
Crony, never took no piss
Cotney, never do...
Cronny's a bitch, bro.
That's this, is that.
I don't even want to talk about it no more, though, bro.
Damn.
He's just a bitch.
That's just what it is.
I fuck with his music.
And I ain't never even stamp it now,
but it's stamped now, though.
That's what it is.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
His music's dope, though.
I never really, like, met him or anything.
I think he's mad at me.
Well, he does, he's just a bitch.
He threw little shit that bitch is a dude, bro.
Like, he just, he's just a bitch.
Because we were supposed to do an interview
And then like instead of like organizing it with the fucking
The lady that you were talking to Laura in terms of like figuring out of date and stuff
He would just call me randomly and be like I'm at your store
Let's do the interview and I'd be like bro I got a whole schedule like I got to
I ain't anybody about to waste my time on here talking about another man bro
Because I'm a gangster bro like I really run around really like that bro
I get fried and all that shit bro
Niggas car say all that little type shit though bro I get fried and all that shit but I
stand on business, bro.
Like, I really run around.
I really run around. I really run out.
I really run out.
I'm ready to throw my life away, bro.
I ain't got no rat, bro.
Like, really, like, I run around like that, bro.
But Quiney not really, like, one of them, no, bro.
Quiney really, like, too.
I bet you, he's a matter of fact, then he's a sign of his deal?
Yeah.
I doubt he's going to be in Philly, bro.
Like, he should move from out of Philly, bro.
I thought he's going to be out in Philly, bro.
But I fought with certain people that be around me, bro.
But Quineyne, no, he's not like that.
bro and the people that's around him know he's not like that bro he's a rapper he's a rapper
quani's a rapper he said that you started rapping on o t7 quani type beats
bro me and him and nothing i like bro bro bro my videographer my videographer i thought he's
cool and all that though but my videographer listens to all my unreleased music and he goes back
and tells him yo bro scurley did this type beat da da da da da da da da da da da da you yo you know you
you should try to do this, you should try to do this.
He's start trying to rap like me.
Oh, shit.
He's doing all the same type means.
He's starting to find all the producers.
Yo, I ain't even one of them, though, bro.
Next question, bro.
I ain't even wanted them, no, bro.
What did you mean when you said,
I know what go on in them vehicles?
I know what going on in the vehicles, bro.
Like, let's not talk about that, though, bro,
because I ain't one of them, bro.
I ain't even, I ain't even, I don't even, I don't even want to.
Yeah, I don't even want to talk about,
I don't even want to talk about nothing like that.
If you know what's going on in the vehicles,
Let me know in the comments.
Okay.
But so,
you mentioned your religion.
What religion exactly do you represent?
I'm a Santo.
I do Paolo.
I'm a santo.
What's that meaning exactly?
All that sacrifice and goats and all that shit.
That's not just for like,
that's real life.
You sacrifice the goat?
You've seen that shit, bro.
That's real life, bro.
I sacrifice goats, chickens, mice.
Like, I do shit for certain shit, though.
Like, I'm not allowed to explain it how you want me to explain it.
I think how you want me to explain it, but, yeah.
I can do my research.
That's interesting.
It ain't even going to, you're not even going to find it like that.
Oh, it's hard to Google?
You could Google it, but it ain't going to explain it.
It's like a, it's, it's, you could try to do these research, though.
I don't even know what you'll find out though, bro.
Oh, it's some Nigerian shit?
I'm calling you really a bitch.
What the fuck?
Oh, my God.
Damn, I wish I could see him when it's just me and him one-on-one, bro.
Like, I wish I could see it, bro.
You think he could have a fade and then be cool again?
He's not going to want to have no fade with me, bro.
What's up?
He said he wants him to set up a boxing match.
Well, if you set him one-on-one,
and I don't even know how to fight, but I will beat his ass, bro.
I don't need, we doing extra shit for him, though, bro.
That's drawn, no, because he's not even one of them, bro.
I'm about to pass him real fast.
bro like oh i'll beat that little nigger ass bro he's a whole turkey bro oh do it what did i start um okay
what the fuck damn yeah next question bro okay um shit i feel like that's that's pretty much like all the
questions i had honestly that's it pretty much all right well i got some questions for you oh lord here we go
There we go.
How you feel like when you, how did you feel when you put them speedos on, bro?
I mean, it was way too tight.
It was way too tight.
Because I borrowed it from the little gay dude.
Oh, shit.
Michael Doherty.
I borrowed it.
No, no ditty, bro, because that shoe was a shrimp she do-doo.
I really, I set the hood on fire when I did that photo shoot.
Because everybody talking about that shit.
Yeah, they in the comments talking about a shrimp-she-d-d-d-old.
Oh man.
Yeah, that was fucked up when I seen that.
I said, Adam Dan, what the fuck?
See, I think I need to, like, make a song about not being gay.
I don't know.
What's you put them speedos on, though, bro?
They're not going to believe it.
It ain't no coming back, bro.
It ain't no coming back, bro.
I'm plotting on my next move.
You need a real good next move, bro.
You need a good one for that one, bro.
Yeah, it might need a good move.
You need a good one, bro
So how many days you're sticking around?
I ain't going to allow it.
I just got my ticket out here, bro.
I might not never go back to Philly, bro.
What?
I thought you needed to stay on the block.
Yeah, bro.
I might, no, no, no.
I'm going to go back once in the blue, bro, but I'm trying to
lead that shit, bro, and go back
when I want to go back, bro.
The only reason I'm going to definitely go back
because I got kids.
Oh, really?
How many kids?
I got two.
Okay.
But I want my main mom to know.
Secret baby.
She can find out.
All right.
Damn,
but okay,
what's the relationship
with the baby mama though?
It's cool?
You co-parenting?
It's cool,
but,
like,
you know,
all my life,
I've been making a lot of money,
though,
like,
all my life,
like,
before rapping,
I was trapping
and I was making a lot of money.
Like,
like,
when I say a lot of money,
I mean a lot of money,
though,
like,
like,
I had money,
money.
Like,
I get fried,
too,
on top of that,
though,
so,
bro,
like,
If I didn't get fired, bro, I would have been a millionaires.
Like, I spent a lot of money.
I spend $4, $600 every day on getting high.
Jesus.
Literally, bro.
And then I'd be wondering why I don't look like that in my face, though,
because I don't look like I get, like, the way I get foul on my face.
Do I?
Well, how old are you?
I'm 24.
Oh, you still got plenty of time.
You think it's going to hit me later?
I mean, you look cool now, but, you know, being a 35-year-old Jay,
it could be a little more difficult to hold it together, right?
Not that you're a J, but you're on the spectrum.
Yeah, well, I hope I don't make it there.
But fucking, you know, I make a lot of brids, so I always like,
I'm not going to say I take care of her, like,
where I go out splurgeon and buying a whole bunch of shit
and all that type of shit, though, but I actually take care.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Houses, like the kid.
She do a lot, too, though.
Shout out to my baby mom.
I love her to death, Joe.
That's my baby, here.
Right.
I got her tattered on my face.
I got it now on my face.
I got her tattooed on my neck and my arm twice.
I got my,
I got her teddy.
Like,
that's my baby for a real.
I really love my baby,
my butt.
I made her comfortable with life.
I want her to get back on her shit and like really like, so like we could be
compatible and really like go back and forth.
Like we could be able to do certain things though.
Right.
But I'm staying out here.
I'm letting her get on her shit while she out there.
And she's cut in.
And I come from the trenches,
but she comes from the trenches too, though.
So I want her.
heard to like get out of there where my kids could be like kind of like white kids too like
hanging around you know what I'm saying though you want your kids to have a better life yeah yeah exactly
so I might stay out here for a little I'm like I'm not planning on leaving at all right I'm not playing on
leaving at all you think like this is the time like you really got to keep your foot on the on the pedal
right now because I feel like I've been falling off really yeah I feel like I'm falling off for the
last two three months I've been I've been feeling like I've fallen off where you took that break from
the drugs? Do you think that was part of it?
Yeah, I didn't take a break from drugs. I just took a break from, like, rapping.
Yeah. So, okay, my main question that I feel like we got a hit before we wrap the interview
is basically like, can you imagine a version of yourself that is less into the drugs at the
very least? Because I feel like, you know, at some point. When I stop doing drugs, I'm done
rapping. I'm done. I'm a new person. When I stop, when I stopped doing drugs, I'm done rapping. I'm
cutting my hair.
I'm a whole new person.
Like, I'm not reckless no more.
That's almost kind of scary to realize that the music that I appreciate so much from you
is kind of like directly tied to the drug shit and that I want you to get to a better
place for the drugs.
But that would also mean that we're not going to be hearing music from you.
That's kind of a shame.
Yeah, but no time soon, though.
Okay.
No time soon at all.
No time soon.
No time soon.
I feel like there's a version of you that is still able to be productive musically without having to be on drugs every time.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
We're going to figure that.
Who your top five rappers?
Right now?
Yeah.
Geez.
I don't know.
There's so many.
Your top five.
I've been listening to a lot of future.
Mm-hmm.
So future's number one right now.
Mm-hmm.
I got to go to my Apple music because I want to give like a lot of future.
a real answer or what I actually been listening
to and not just like what I want to
seem like I listen to.
Yeah.
Um, shit, I'm gonna put
laser dim on the fucking list
because I have been listening to him a bit
even though his shit, if I listen
to it long enough starts to hurt my head.
But shout out to laser dim.
I'm a big fan.
Cuando Rondo.
I fuck with Cuando Rondo tough.
I fuck with all his ops a lot too.
I follow Quando Rondo
before, I like
to, I love the Quando Rondo
before he got on when he started
rapping like.
like NBA young boy.
You know, a lot of his shit
sound like young boy.
The early shit,
you kind of like better.
He was the best.
If Coronado stayed on that,
he'd probably be in the top 10 in the rap
era right now, though, bro.
I want that old Kondo back, though, bro.
I really fuck with Kondo Rondo.
I want that old Kondo Rano back.
Yeah, interesting.
But Kondorado Rano hard, though.
I fuck with Kondon.
I'm gonna let him know.
You know what I've been listening to?
Big 30.
Big 30.
I fought with Big 30.
For a while, I was like,
I liked Push Sheisty so much
that I wasn't really trying to listen to Big 30,
and now somehow I've just become a legitimate Big 30 fans.
So that's kind of new development.
And shit, I don't know.
I don't even know how many are names.
Oh, there's a rapper named Treyway from out here that I fuck with too,
but he's been locked up for a little bit.
Yeah, one more.
We've got to go out here too.
Who I've been listening to lately?
Well, I'll also, I really fuck with M.A. Fiske, too.
So I'm going to put him on the list.
MFA Tisky.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got an open verse that I ain't ever do from him yet.
Right, because you guys rap on a lot of the same types of beats.
I feel like you guys would sound very natural together.
Yeah.
Hey, yo, shout out to my dog, a little shimmy.
Little shimmy.
You know a little shimmy?
No.
You don't know who little shimmy is?
I got to get to that thing to little shimmy, though.
He's from Florida.
Okay.
He heard of shit.
Little shimmy.
I'm going to get on that.
He's from Zimmy land, too.
That's crazy.
I can tell that you're a real rap fan because you got a hell of underground artists
from all different parts of the country.
Yeah, me and a little shimmy just dropped the video.
I ain't a lie.
He got off on me on that song, though.
me though.
Really?
Oh,
it's your most recent video?
Then I guess I have seen him.
He was all the recent show.
Yeah, he got off on me, though.
I got to get my get back, though.
Lo Schemi,
uh,
fucking,
I'm gonna tell you my top five,
too.
Lo Schemi,
Ola Runt.
And I ain't gonna fuck,
I fought,
I fuck with Playboy Cardi too,
but they,
you know,
they beef with Ola Runt.
Right.
But I put with Ola Rond more,
so fuck Playboy Cardi.
You don't want to sign to opium?
I feel like it'll be a good fit.
Are they on some fake dark shit?
You want some real dark shit?
I want some of that shit, though.
But I fuck with Playboy Crady, though, for real.
But fucking, I fought with Olaude,
I've been fucking with Ola for a minute.
And, um, so I'm, I'm gonna say, uh,
I'm gonna put my dog, uh, uh, YBC Duel.
Mm-hmm.
I B C Duel.
I got him on my list to check out after this, yeah.
Yeah, um, fucking, um,
you know, future, of course.
Mm-hmm.
Um.
Oh yeah, Kodak, of course
Kodak.
Always Kodak.
Yeah, Kodak, that's my favorite artist.
That hurt you when he worked with 6'9?
Kodak is Kodak.
I'm rocking out with whatever Kodak do.
That's really my,
that's really like my favorite artists of the world.
No ditty though.
But I feel like if you and Kodak met
that it would be like an instant connection
and that you would probably be sniper ganged out.
Yeah, I already know.
I already know.
Kodak, Kodak, know who I am.
No, like we talked before on Instagram.
me like my shit he sent me how he moves you like me a korek had like a little small little
conversation and shit he might be able to go toe to toe with you with the drugs yeah i don't know he seems
like he's pretty talented in that regard i don't know no no i don't know he's been practicing for a while
i get the idea um shit all right uh i'm gonna give you one more uh uh one more one more ralphi
uh and shout of my boy risa younger risa young and um ricey yon rice yon
Let me add one more too.
Reese Young and Reese Young.
You know Reese Younger?
No, I got to check him out.
Yeah.
Check Reese Younger.
Okay.
See one more.
One more.
Who, Lil Tyler?
Yeah, Lil Tyler.
Little Tyler definitely, yeah.
He's doing this thing.
Oh, yeah.
All right, yeah, all right, yeah.
Little Tyler, that's my dog.
Little Tyler and Shorty Shorty Shorty, Shorty.
You fuck with Shorty Shorty, Shorty, yeah.
Yeah, shout out Little Tyler.
Little Tyler.
Yeah, me and we got to do some shit for sure.
I think I did the first Shorty Shorty Shorty interview ever.
Yeah
Quite possibly
Me and a little Tyler
I got to do some shit
I'm on his ass
Yeah
He bent sending me some bees
I was doing some bullshit though
I'm going out Florida
After I leave from out there
I'm going to Florida
I'm doing some shit
With a little Tyler
Yeah
Shout out Lucky and Vs too
Yeah lucky
Lucky that's my brother
Bro that's really my Geminae
Twin
Lucky that's my dog
I'm out here for Lucky and G Herbo
Oh really?
Doing some shit with Lucky and Vee too
Yeah
Every time I come on here
I'm with Lucky and G Herbo
M Minsky.
Look at him,
M M M M M Macy.
He's been saying
he's going to come
kicking on the podcast
sometime.
He just made me promise
not to interview him.
He's like,
I'll come hang out
but you can't interview me.
Yeah.
It's a little tricky.
Yeah.
But for show, man.
Yeah, I appreciate you coming on the pod.
I love the music.
I'm hoping you can kind of clean your act up
a little bit
just because I'm a little worried
that that tank
was really getting abused
throughout this episode.
But, you know,
everybody,
everybody's at a certain step
in their journey, you know?
Yeah.
Now that's what's the good joint you think, though?
Oh, fire.
Legendary.
You think this shit gonna go up?
Oh, yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Definitely going up.
Shout out to Skrilla.
Everybody turn him up, if you ain't already.
Add many of his songs to your playlist and whatnot.
What's the upside-down thumbs?
What's that?
I'm the biggest dropper all times.
Oh, shit.
Don't you drive your thumb.
Drop you down.
No, I'm the biggest dropper.
I'm the biggest drop of all the time.
I feel like it does in somebody.
Biggest dropper of all times.
I'm here.
I've learned when the rappers tell me to throw up a weird hand sign.
Just don't do it.
Don't do it.
Because it probably means,
ha-ha,
so-and-so got killed or something.
I don't know.
I don't trust none of you rappers.
But shout out to my man, Skrilla.
Appreciate you coming through, man.
There's big things to come.
I'm a believer.
Shout out to Ralphie the pup.
He's a good dog.
Appreciate you, man.
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