No Jumper - Smac on Getting Shot 9 Times, Being Special-Ed, BACKONFIGG & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And I think the people already know, they've been wanting to see this. Smack, we already know who you is. Like the introduction is I don't even know how to like take my skateboard and drop into the ramp onto that. Right, right, right, right. I want to do it so epic for you, man.

Starting point is 00:00:22 But I just think that, you know, the truth needs no support. No, I don't. We got smack in the building today, ladies. and gentlemen. Here to be, no cab, man. I'm in the shark tank, man. And you know what? I know for a fact,

Starting point is 00:00:36 I know people being wanted to see me and you sit down. Yes. And just do something and just chill, man, and hang out. So I want to do this one more podcast style.

Starting point is 00:00:44 Now, I'm going to ask you a few questions, of course, but I think we're going to do that just on an organic note. Right, right. You dig what I'm saying? Like a book. Shark acts me anything,

Starting point is 00:00:52 that's what I love, man. That's why I got you here, man. I like that sweater you got on right away. Oh, yeah. Thank you, man. That's hard. That's hard. Jumper.com, go tap in.

Starting point is 00:00:59 How was that? Hey, no. Adam. Pay the man. Shout out my boy Adam. Yeah, man. Shout out Adam 22. You did?

Starting point is 00:01:12 That's my guide, man. It's my guy, too, yeah. You know, you actually, I think you had did, you had modeled for it. Yes. In the video, hey, bro, whoever shot that and even with you, I love visual, man, so I love seeing that. Like, I love, like, catching you in a different form. What was that like for you, man? For real.

Starting point is 00:01:31 Like, when you doing that. Honestly, it was dope and tight to me because I never modeled the day in my life. I never did the picture stuff. And that was my first time ever in life. So that was good. I felt great. Like, I was feeling real juice when I did at then to see my progress when it came out, like, wow. I fuck with it, man.

Starting point is 00:01:49 I fuck with it. And you notice, you didn't have to be. See, and this for the people, like, you have to be a Calvin Klein nigger. You ain't have to be like there's something for everybody. That part. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think one of them Calvin Klein niggas could have pulled that off. Especially the setting how rugged it was.

Starting point is 00:02:06 Come on, man. How worried you looked like looking out the window, but like they're capturing what you got on the whole time, you know. Right. Whoever did that. I don't know who had shot that if it was somebody in the building, I'm sure. Yeah. Who shot that. Trev?

Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah. I'm going to be real, man. Shout out to Trev because the way he captured that was like it was on some real gritty trap shit. Yeah. It was like this worried, like it just like going crazy in there, but it was still capturing around the actual out of the gear. You know what I'm saying? That's what I loved about it too.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Like he really was doing this shit. He really knew it. He's like, do this, do this. Tell me what to do. Now I'm gonna make it happen, Captain. Yeah, it is. For real, babe. Hear me, I don't play.

Starting point is 00:02:46 The two raspy voice, niggas. I swear I want to tell you that too. They ain't we got their fucking latsy-assie-ass voice. I love it. I'd have made it into me now. You feel me? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:55 At first I didn't, because it happened like me screaming and shit, been around the world, so that's how that happened, doing too much yelling. And when I came back, my mama was like, something wrong with your voice, son? No. Ain't it trash when, like, you could be talking to somebody, right? And you just really just being passionate about it, but your voice will come off like you're aggressive. Yeah. Like, they'd be like, why are you getting so aggressive?

Starting point is 00:03:17 You're like, I'm not. I'm just talking. That's my voice. I'm for real. I'm just talking. But people are get that shit misconstrued. It's screwed. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:03:24 They just don't really understand it. But man, this has been my voice like this since I was young, bro. For real? Yeah, it's been my voice like this since I was young before I started smoking. Damn. I probably wouldn't be as raspy, but it was pretty, it was always here. Mine started at 16. It's always been in 2016, mine started.

Starting point is 00:03:43 Like, when mine start, when my voice started breaking, this is what it broke into, like it just kind of stayed broke. But what do you think that shit comes from? Like, well, we just strained our vocals so long so much, This is just over with canceled Christmas in New Year? Maybe God, I'm going to be for real. Like, I ain't trying to get religious with people. Maybe God, like, knew we needed to have a voice.

Starting point is 00:04:04 That part. We was going to go through some things that maybe people can relate to and they ain't going to take it. See, I always notice, smack, like, don't nobody ever. You could tell it, like, even your kids, right? You could tell them like, hey, stop. Don't touch that. Right.

Starting point is 00:04:17 Stop. Don't touch that. You keep repeating it to them. You're trying to be nice about the shit, right? Once you tell me, hey, fucking stop. Don't touch that before I'll whoop your ass. Right, right. They don't do it no more.

Starting point is 00:04:27 You know what I'm saying? So, like, I think it's a, I don't know. Like, I just, I don't know. I know where I was at with that, but just. No, I get you. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I mean, like, it's just a difference, bro.

Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, I think we've been through some different things, my nigga, like, it's, we've been through some different things. That's why I like having you here, homie. Like, I think this one right here is healthy. And, nigga, we're going to track out on this one. I appreciate you having me. It's the honor being here in the shark tank. Man, come on, bro.

Starting point is 00:04:54 For real. What's it been like for you at a B-O-F? Being good. It's better living on it. You're going to come over here and call us with me? I'm told T-Rail already, fuck him. Hey, hey, back on Fing, been going crazy, man. It has.

Starting point is 00:05:10 It has. Y'all been over there going crazy, man. I love the progress. T-Rail, man, definitely doing his thing. I know he's been wanting to get that off the ground and just to see it having an overall success. and having you there as a co-host, I know that that shit's a perfect fit.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, for sure. Because it ain't been no complaints. But we'll get off the podcast for a second minute. Let's just go down memory lane for you, man. Like, what was it like for you for smack growing up? Oh, man, for me growing up, let's see, sharp. A typical life by kids, you feel me, single mother, you feel me? Born and raised on fig and 51st.

Starting point is 00:05:48 It sucks that we can consider that typical. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a single mother with five kids. Single mother with five kids. It shouldn't be typical. It shouldn't be, but that's the life we live. And you feel what I grew up, everybody on my block didn't have no daddy in their life. So it's typical for us like, okay, you ain't got a daddy, you feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. So me growing up was like basically just a regular kid just trying to make it out together, man. Make it off a figure roar, make it off for that 50% oversweet. Because I grew up in a rough life, man. Yeah. My daddy wasn't in my life. I was shot nine. times, you feel me?

Starting point is 00:06:22 Like, I grew up rough, bro. And I feel like if I had my father, when none of that would have probably happen to me. For sure. I wouldn't gang bang and did all the bullshit I did back in my days, you feel me? I probably wouldn't and never got a shot. That shit, like, that shit touched me, bro,

Starting point is 00:06:41 because it's like to hear, niggas don't ever admit that. Like, it take a hell of a man to admit that. Like, hey, man, I didn't have a father figure, I know that's a reason of why I probably went through some of the things that I went through. Some niggas are just hop up in here and be quick to just say, oh, well, fuck him. You know, fuck him. I ain't had no problems, nigga.

Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm me. You know what I'm saying? This was always me. But for you to understand of what probably developed you. No, for sure, because he wasn't in my life, so I ran to the streets to be my daddy, the older homies, you feel me? People that I looked up to. You feel me? That's why I, but, you know, I look at it like this.

Starting point is 00:07:18 Everything happens for a reason, shark, you feel me? God already know what his intentions is when he put us on this earth. He knows the day we come in, and he knows the day we're going to leave. You feel me? So my book was already wrote me. Your daddy ain't going to claim you, who-woo, and this going to happen in your future. It's going to go to this, and now you're going to be on TV. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:07:36 So I look at it like that. Everything happens for a reason. It wasn't meant for him to be in my life. That's how I look at it. I don't hate him. I ain't got no hard feelings. I forgive, but I don't forget for sure. And it just made me a better.

Starting point is 00:07:52 man because I don't got kids so when I do have kids best believe I'm gonna love my daughter and son the I'm gonna give them most love they gonna be tired of me I'm picking them up from school everything like everything my daddy supposed to do to me I'm gonna make sure I do it for my kids I've been like that uh I'm like that with uh with my son for sure man like you know maybe it's because he a boy you know I got daughters too like but like him like I was there for him like it's a difference maybe it's because I knew he was a he's a boy I was a boy I was a boy way before so I know what it's like to not have you know that that father figure my uncle was

Starting point is 00:08:27 there man you know I love him man shout to my uncle mill but like he you know you got his own kids yeah that's like my mama brother he was there my uncle was there my daddy brother but it's nothing like having that man that had you who had you there you know what I'm saying so I know that's very detrimental to you know a person's life how is man you got you got siblings yeah it's five of us two girls well you know I know you said you had five but shit man they might have been somewhere like you know not we all together we are together though yeah

Starting point is 00:08:55 my people's like so for me the only reason I say that so people can understand the transparency I'm trying to kick like my siblings man grew up away from me like even though like yeah we had the same daddy didn't mean we all grew up in the same house yeah now we all grew up in the same house

Starting point is 00:09:07 yeah we all grew up in the same house you feel me for sure that got good relationships with your people today yeah love them to death love their hearts sure yeah they love you're the baby you're the oldest no I'm the second oldest second oldest yeah I'm the second oldest

Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, for sure. It's got to be crazy to have smackers, your brother. Let's just say that. For real, bro. I just thought I say that for the record. It's got to be kind of crazy-ass smackers, your brother, man, for real, for real. I appreciate you short. That shit wild.

Starting point is 00:09:37 I appreciate. Bro, I appreciate you just being here. Like, we just going to kick the shit, bro. I brought a present for you, too. What you bring? What we got? It is Christmas. Oh, man, come on.

Starting point is 00:09:48 For you, me. Laura, can we get a little bit of ice to pop up? these please that's for you I appreciate you hey I appreciate you so much Laura hey you are a true scholar and detrimental to our lives man look yeah I appreciate this man for real for real bro because you ain't have to me but shit my man brought me one real players in the game it feels like it is sitting at about 30 degrees so it is cold oh yes I had that on ice the whole time it feel like hey for real psych it feel like it's probably about

Starting point is 00:10:21 Good 30 Chili at 30 Oh yeah I had that on ice in the house Then brought it here Put it on ice up in there Yeah to me Yeah it feel like man shit

Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah Oh yeah Might have a Hey man Might have a foo in there Too man Forty four Degree high man

Starting point is 00:10:36 Now I appreciate this man For real We're gonna pop this together For real For sure for show How's it been man Just for your life Just everything

Starting point is 00:10:44 Everything changing right now man It's been crazy What's the change been like bro It been crazy You became an overnight internet sensation. You're a sensation, bro. Like, people love you. You become your alma, you start to become a household name. And I know the people that are going to watch this, they know, bro. They cannot deny that. Right. Right. You cannot deny that, man. How's that been for you? It been good. I've been

Starting point is 00:11:06 getting all good vibes, you feel me, everybody been congratulating me, telling me they're proud of me, you feel me? It been good. I can't complain, honestly. You feel me? Yeah. I feel like 23 is my year for me to go up, talk my shit and swallow spit. You grew up on fig? Born and raised. The alone feed, she owned her house. She's over there right now. So then you're very familiar with the cultural basis that happened around there. Yes, sir. As of not just, I'm not going to say like drugs because drugs is around there.

Starting point is 00:11:33 There is nigg is moving around there, but it's mostly don't put some pivoting on. That part in that order. Fig is known like it's very cultural, you know, when it comes to that. Yeah, for sure. I know that you know you have some of those backgrounds lingering. Oh, yeah, for sure, a whole lot of it. What made you get into the game, man? What made you fuck with it?

Starting point is 00:11:54 Because like, I was, like I said, I was gang banging. So when I got shot six times, I was in that coma for two months, when I got out that coma, I was like, damn, I almost died. You feel me? Right. So one of my boys came and was like, yeah, this is what I'm doing. He's older than me, you feel me? Shout out J-Mack, shout out B'Boo.

Starting point is 00:12:12 They older than me. They're like, this what we doing. That shit you doing that game, shit ain't paying you, nigg. You out here steady calling me, asking me for money, nigga. Come get one of these right here. and she gonna get you the money. I'm like, man, I'm worried about that shit.

Starting point is 00:12:25 So then I ended up going to jail again, he bailed me out. I went to his house and he's like, damn, this thing, got five girls and a fucking single. I'm talking about they everywhere spread it out in the room. Sleep, high bubble.

Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm like, man, that shit still ain't a sighting to me. Right, right. You know what excited me was? What? Later on that night, when he said, hey, take my car,

Starting point is 00:12:45 take them out there. I'm like, I want to see what the big old deal is about. When they came back, Like this? I'm telling them, when they walked in that door, each of them just, boom, boom, I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Was it a head scratching? Wait, wait, right.

Starting point is 00:12:59 Because I didn't try. Thank you, Lord. I appreciate you. I tried to sell the dope. I tried to do all that. It didn't work for me, short. I wasn't good at it either. It wasn't working for me.

Starting point is 00:13:08 When I hopped and, listen, like, I ain't going to lie. I try to sell some crack, homie, you know, and I was, I could have been good at that. But when I was coming up and I actually started getting my hands on it, it was kind of too late. The crack error died, right? There was a handful of crackheads and they only gonna spend so much. It wasn't as a broad. So, and nigga, I couldn't sell weed because I smoked weed. I'm gonna fuck the sack off.

Starting point is 00:13:29 That part. You know? For sure. So like when that shit happened, I'm like, damn, this nigga just, he counting the money, he's separating the ones, he's doing all the shit, right? And then he go, huh, threw me like two, three hundred, huh? That's what, you feel, me, taking them out there, you feel me? This was back then, short when I came in the game, I was 17.

Starting point is 00:13:46 You hear me? This one, Agnes was cracking, Long Beach Boulevard. sentry. You hear me? I'm one of the reasons why they put that shit. When Silky Slim was talking about that shit, when they towed their cars and all that shit, I came 20 minutes right after that with my boy King Tut. Shout out King Tut. I came there. I was there. I was there. I was there around, man. Shit, I used to hit

Starting point is 00:14:09 that. Shit, back in my day, man. I used to go hit Arizona, nigger Phoenix. MacDow. MacDow, 51st School. Indian School, yeah. Let's talk about it. Yeah. I got a lot of money over there off them streets, boy. I was really around it. I ain't going to hold you. Yeah, I was really around it when I did.

Starting point is 00:14:27 So I do understand, like, where you coming from with that. Like, just, it's a, it definitely did change my life. I don't know if it changed yours, man. It changed it like a motherfucker. Like, I'd be dead or in jail right now if it wasn't for this pimping. I tell everybody this from the young generation on up to the older generation. If it wasn't for this P-I-M-P professional and manipulative. Depulating people I'm dead right now. I wouldn't be here or sharp or I'd be in jail

Starting point is 00:14:55 Because the route I was going was you're going to be dead or in jail You feel me I had murder cases all type of shit at a young age think about a 16 year old in juvenile Horde for murder charge as they they don't even it's not saying they don't see but they don't that's not a lot They keeping you by yourself like they don't even know what you capable of because of the charge that you I'm in MNN when you're You're gonna lock down with them black windows. You can't see nothing, Nick. You segregated from the regular people that's in there for the robberies and this and that.

Starting point is 00:15:27 You in there were other people that caught hot ones. You feel, me? So that woke me up in jail. So when I got out, I'm like, I got to change. I got to change. Like, I love the hood. I love where I come from. I'm born and red.

Starting point is 00:15:38 I love it. But this is going to be the death of me because the route I was going. So that's why I love the game. And thank God for the game, very. You feel me? Because it hasn't changed me. it gave me a different perspective on life.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Like, I don't want to hurt nobody. I want to do you get some money and live. So when I knocked my first little game, it was over. I never looked back short, and I'm 35. Never had a case, never had nothing, nothing. Because God blessed me to know how to really pimp. You feel me? Right.

Starting point is 00:16:09 Like, you feel me? I never had no problems. I don't put my hands on females. You got to put your hands on them. I don't need you. Communication rules, nation. You feel me? And that's how I rock.

Starting point is 00:16:19 I never did that. I never was no nigga to do this. I'm going to tell you why. We're going to talk about it. I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to say it, man. Fuck, people like bitches. Because, nigga, these be bitches, man.

Starting point is 00:16:31 These bitches be going crazy. Like, the bitches that, like, if you feel like you have to, they want hands put on them. Because they feel like, and do I feel like that's right? No. But they'll push you, push, you, push you,

Starting point is 00:16:43 to put your hands on them. Because in their mind, they feel like, I'm for real. He don't love me. if he don't hit me. If he don't hit me. If he don't put his hands on me, he don't care. When you're sitting there booing her like, bitch, just shut up.

Starting point is 00:16:54 I'm not fucking with you. They have the tendencies of just, well, here, I'm going to push you even more. Fuck that. So you can put your hands on me. So that's where they start to feel the love. I don't know if that's something they got going on with their daddies and their mama's when they was coming up. But that shit don't got nothing to do with me.

Starting point is 00:17:10 But we have to think about it. Everybody that's in the game got some type of broken mind in the sense. Yeah, for sure. Like what it stem from everybody. I don't give a fucking nigga who it is. Don't get fucking sell drugs. Don't get fucking, what it is.

Starting point is 00:17:20 But what we all did get into it for, the majority, homie, was to have a better life. That part. Not to human traffic, not to take this, not to take this.

Starting point is 00:17:29 Hey, man, you ain't got to move nobody against a will. Come on, man. Can I ask you a question? Not to because your offense is saying? No. Come on.

Starting point is 00:17:36 How you feel about the game when these dudes think like we lanes and we soft and all that because we just some is them. Like, they got to remember. Everybody come from somewhere whether you are,

Starting point is 00:17:48 a gang member or whether you just was a ghetto ass nigger that never gang banged you was in the streets but everybody got a background would you would they would they like me better if i was one like if i was that if i was a gang member or if i was you know i'm saying i worked at your fucking local pigly wiggily that's what you would like me for you wouldn't like me because i did what i actually wanted to do that part that's sad it's sad that means that i'm sitting there painting a narrative nigger to live what you want me to be right no i'm not i'm not i don't live for niggas no hell i barely live for the bitch huh So, I don't even have time,

Starting point is 00:18:20 digger, to even play that route. You know what I'm saying? To even fuck with somebody to be like, man, I care what you really think of me. I stopped caring what the motherfucker thought of me a long time ago. That's why I didn't understand when I watched people come and make mockeries of the game,

Starting point is 00:18:33 this wasn't something that you went and got on and had a show from. That's what killed me when I saw it, like, you know what's in the young boy, like, do it, like, trying to use it like as an outlet. Nigger, this ain't SoundCloud, nigger. This ain't rap.

Starting point is 00:18:45 This ain't like you getting on and people can respect it. I came from the most hated. The most hated, nigga, they considered us, nigga, the lowest of the low. Bottom of the barrel. Dirt balls. Bottom of the barrel.

Starting point is 00:18:57 That's how they considered us. How the fuck could you be that? How could you take this? How could you do that? Man, anything I ever had, man, it was given to me. It was given to me. I never had to take shit. None.

Starting point is 00:19:09 That part. And I never believed it. They don't want to believe that. Look, I never been a robber. I never been a jacker. Because I look at life like this, and I'm glad the older niggas gave me this game like I can't rob somebody because I know what I'm a dude to a motherfucker if they break in my house or try to rob me got to put yourself in that position so that never

Starting point is 00:19:26 was my M-O I never was a flock that's a good ass way to live though I like that I like that's a bit about you smack because you like well you know I'm not gonna do something to somebody I wouldn't want done to me because I know how I'm a feel about it that's why I say what you put in the game is what you get out the game you you human though bro that just shows that your humanity like within you you human bro that's it come on dog like I ain't I ain't I ain't at you for that at all. My nigga, yeah, you ain't no robber. You ain't no jacker.

Starting point is 00:19:51 You know why? Because nine times out of ten, man, we got the people that got the shit that we won't be our own people. Them the people that we get the closest to. Let's think about it. Why you think they say, man, it always be the person that's closest to you. So you do you. That part.

Starting point is 00:20:03 Hey, that's fact. Let's think about it, man. That's fact. No, it's fact. Like just everything I just said. And I hope they run that shit back and just listen to me. Because that shit was a one of one. God.

Starting point is 00:20:14 That shit was a one of one. Oh, God. I understand it. For real. I'm really in a shark take, though, right there. You hear, Nick. No, no, no, you understand. Shark, like, you're my homie, you're my friend, and all that. But, like, when I first got my first introduction of you,

Starting point is 00:20:29 you hear me, on the No Jumper, that's how I found out about you. I'm like, I'm sitting back. I said, I gotta study him, I gotta analyze him. Let me see what's going on. You hear me? I'm validated. No, no, can I talk, please? Let me talk, look.

Starting point is 00:20:42 I said, I gotta figure him out right now. Hold up. As I did my research, nigga, I said, man, I fucked with him. He's a real one. Like, he's not no clone. He ain't out here faking and shaking it all for the camera. Like, that's really him. And I can tell by your voice the way you carry yourself,

Starting point is 00:20:59 like, he's really talking that shit because he lived that shit. You feel me? I had to, promise you. I had to look at myself in the mirror before anybody had to look at me on one of these motherfucking cameras. I've been looking at myself for years. Yeah. Having to deal with myself for years. Right.

Starting point is 00:21:15 having to critique myself for years. I didn't have fans or viewers to tell me what direction to go. Right. Like you was saying earlier, we don't have, I didn't come from an era of social media when I was younger. Like these kids do have a different outlet today in how they can take an approach in fucking life. Think about it.

Starting point is 00:21:34 I didn't really have that. Homie, you had to really go get your fucking feet wet. Think about it. You had to go hit some concrete. And I know that might sound cliche to the viewer, like getting your feet wet. Right. But I promise you, it comes with more than, I don't watch this shit, man, make grown-ass men,

Starting point is 00:21:50 the hardest man, you know, nigga, ball up in the corner and cry. He ain't going to tell nobody, nigga, but it happened. Facts. It happened. On my mama, mama, he ain't lying. This shit hurt. That's why I never tell nobody to go be pimps. I never tell people to go be hoax.

Starting point is 00:22:04 I don't tell people to go be drug dealers. All I can tell them is smack. And I'm going to tell you for your life, like, because I fuck with you, I'm my partner. We just podding on me. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, do your thing, my nigga. Just be the greatest thing you can be in whatever it is you can do you're doing. I can't stop you.

Starting point is 00:22:20 The world can't stop you. But all I can do is, nigga, just encourage you to be the best at it. And that be my whole thing. At least be that. I never tell nobody, no youngsters that come up under me, go rob, go kill, go pimple. I tell them, whatever you good at, be good at it. And stick to the script. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:22:38 Whether you play basketball, football, soccer, whatever you do, just be the best at it. Don't let nobody tell you nothing because it can't nobody to. live your life but you. See a cup player. Oh, yeah. Can't nobody live your life but you? You feel me? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:52 That's real shit, though, church. I ain't bad, too. No, for real. For real, church, I ain't gonna cap with you, bro. I'm gonna give it to you raw and uncut, bro. We're the same age, we're the same era,

Starting point is 00:23:01 we're from the same cloth. Yeah. You hear me? What kind of music you like? I like all type of music. I'm gonna type like, it depends on what time of the day. Or, like, in the morning,

Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm listening to old schools. Yeah. It's 12 o'clock. I don't listen to no rapping to after 12. Who's your favorite artist? Like old school. Old school? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:19 I like the Commodore, Zoom. Yeah. Yeah, I fuck with the Commodore. The stylistics is one of my favorites. Styleistics, I fuck with them for sure. Stylistics, man. I fuck with them, for show, for show. Got a couple more stylistics.

Starting point is 00:23:32 Gap band. You know, I listen to a lot of them, confunction. You know? Listen to a lot of, like, man, real old shit. I'll be listening to Al Green. Al Green. temptations, you hear me? I'd be listening to all the stuff I basically grew up listening to when my mom was playing

Starting point is 00:23:49 when I was a kid. What's your things, Mac, like if a lot of these new millennials, right, if they listen to old school music, whether it was love songs, you the niggas don't even cut love songs no more. You don't even hear them like that. No, you're never here. Hey, that's in the 80s. You know what I'm talking about?

Starting point is 00:24:05 These little niggas want to rap about Drake Golds and 30s and all this old silly ass shit. You ain't gonna get no more of them old school songs where they're talking that shit. to you. Girl, you know I, I love you. No matter what you do, they ain't making that right. No, no, no. No, they don't make that. They're not making that, bro. And I'll say this, right? If motherfuckers is really like into it for like moving bitches, because that's what niggas want to be hard for, right? You want to, you want to be hard to get money and have bitches. Right, right. That's like what you're doing this for. I feel. Anybody that's in music. You want to have money and you want to have bitches. That part.

Starting point is 00:24:43 They get the end of the day, like you're just a solo bachelor. You ain't got no wife or nothing like that. Like you just, and even then, them niggas gonna have bitches. I'm sorry. Come on, let's talk about it. But it's the truth. That's course. You know what?

Starting point is 00:24:52 If that's the case, you could go to R&B, nigga. Because guess what, R&B, nigga, the bitches, the bitches. And niggas gonna make you a lot of money. See, last time I checked, nigga, it wasn't the niggas that spend money with you. It really is the bitches. Right. Think about it. It still runs back to it.

Starting point is 00:25:07 Bitches by albums. They're the ones that support. It's the chicks. It's not niggas. The niggas trying to burn it. We're trying to burn it. Is it on YouTube yet? Because I ain't paying the dime.

Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm looking for a way to steal it. As of Riley, like, if that's somebody she really likes, I'm sure she'd be like, yeah, I'll pay for your album. I'll pay for the downloader for the stream. Niggas, we don't do that shit. At all. We don't even get down like that. Like, we don't even pull, like, the support.

Starting point is 00:25:29 You know what I'm saying? But I feel like, one day it's going to be some young dude, you feel me? Because we got a lot of talent all around the world. You feel me? Everybody ain't waking up saying they want to be a rapper. I'm pretty sure if some kids, like, I'm a good singer, they just ain't being, what's the word, they just ain't being found yet, you feel me? But I feel it's going to come back, though, eventually, because it's people like me and you

Starting point is 00:25:49 that really love the old school shit, you feel me? Like, I loved Casey and Jojo. And then when I found out that, and like, I don't like this, but I'll go back a father of a bubble. Hey, like, even though, like, you know, when I found out that, you know, Casey was beating the shit out of Mary. Right. He's whipping the dog breaks from her mother of her.

Starting point is 00:26:07 Oh, he was giving her feet, elbows. Why you think she was coming out with them songs? No drama. Hey, hey, real. But to be real with you, like I know it might sound fucked up to the viewer. But like to be real with you, look where it took her music.

Starting point is 00:26:25 I love Mary J. Blanche. I love Mary J. Blanche. I love Mary J. Barge. I respect everything about her. She's a black queen. You know what I'm saying? And everything in her rights. Right. And I would think she would agree with me.

Starting point is 00:26:37 Without some of that trauma, without some of that pain, even though it was fucked up, where would that music have been? That part, no, you're saying something that's 100% facts, and she agreed. I think she will agree with that. Like, because your life,

Starting point is 00:26:50 what you go through in your life, you spill out to that music, you feel on me? You tell them it's real, that's in your heart, what you're going through, whether a person believe it or not, you feel me, that's her life. She was getting feet, elbows, and everything. She was catching it all.

Starting point is 00:27:04 She was catching hill. And you know what? Don't nobody know what was really going on behind the scenes, smack shit. She could have been dropping a couple elbows on KC. Yeah, watch out. Like, nigga, I'm tired of your shit. Watch out.

Starting point is 00:27:15 You ain't gonna keep cracking me. You ain't gonna, nigga, bow. Shut up, bitch-ass, nigga, bow. No, and I believe that because, look, think about it, I believe that, I'm a man. I can admit, I had a few females tried to fire on me. But I'm like, crazy bitch just got off on me. You hear me?

Starting point is 00:27:30 I'm talking about so, it is females out there that will take flight once they get fed up. Like, you bitch, a ass, nigger. For real. Facts, that's facts. That's real. But, like, yeah, I like that, the R&B. I like that, man, for real.

Starting point is 00:27:43 Because I feel like a lot of it was fueled off of, you know, as fucked up as it may seem, domestic violence relationships. That's just like, sharp, for, that's just like, for example, my life was built it off of, I didn't have a father. I was in the streets, you feel me? So when I tell my story, I'm telling the real truth. You feel what I'm saying? Her life and her music was based off of her life.

Starting point is 00:28:05 She was getting, whatever they was going through. I ain't gonna say he was, but you know, whatever they... Right, because we weren't there. I wasn't there. But whatever it was, she was letting the record reflect on the album. Like, this how I feel. What was that? Oh, fuck, what's the song was that?

Starting point is 00:28:19 Take me as I am. I are another. Like, come on, she letting a nigga know, bitchy-ass-nick. Take me as I am. Take me as I am. Like you feel? And that's why, and this is all love to Mary J Blah. For sure.

Starting point is 00:28:33 To Casey, man. Hey, man, ain't trying to talk about your business, but just, it's just. It just made sense for what we was talking about, man, because y'all really was some of them people, man. It still are some of them are. That's still look. Mary doesn't change the fucking game.

Starting point is 00:28:46 Man, and still look like she's 20. That part. Yeah, Mary. Yeah, you're doing the look, baby. I love it, girl. Keep it going for us. African Queens out there. Let them know.

Starting point is 00:28:57 You hear me? She is fine to the motherfucker. What? She still looks like she's 20. And she's like, what, 50? I ain't going to lie, nigg. She probably, hey, I'm not going to lie, bro. And I'll say this just.

Starting point is 00:29:07 I gotta let the record reflect. It's probably smacking. It's probably smacking. Brother love, brother love. She looked like she wear mish-matched socks. Like, you know that's what is good. Oh, my God. She wanted to be in the kitchen,

Starting point is 00:29:19 got some mish-mast socks on, nigga. Church. She got, yeah, that part. Yeah, oh, it's smacking like a motherfucker. Please believe it. Yeah, anything else to be uncivilized to say. It's smacking. Let me ask you, smack.

Starting point is 00:29:33 Yes. What, is there anybody that you want to work with in the future? Is there any other endeavors that you try to, you know what I'm saying, trying to jump into? Who I want to work with? Are you just taking it? Are you just taking it? I'm just taking it day by day because I don't like to like say, oh, I want to do this or this. I just like to wake up, you feel me? Whatever happens that day is going to happen. But in my mind, I want to do this. I want to do that. But I know I can't do it unless that time be presented to me. Yeah. But I would love to work with Lil Boosie. That's my favorite rapper.

Starting point is 00:30:02 I've been rocking his haircut over 20 years now, bro. I don't get, I don't even know how I look with a regular fade. A regular fade, I don't even know how I look no more. I've been having this haircut 20 years. Nothing else. Don't, nothing else. Do you consider yourself traditional? Because of that, like, you kind of, you're the type of nigga to go to McDonald's or

Starting point is 00:30:23 a Big Mac or a regular cheeseburger. You don't go off the menu to nothing extra. Nah, no, no. You get what you, what you know, nigga, and you stick to it. I stick to the script. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Shout out Webby, too.

Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, man. You get Bushie to come focus. That'd be live. No, for sure. I'm trying to get them up in here, man. Boosey, man. Booty, man. We Scorpio.

Starting point is 00:30:44 Our birthday, no, for the same motherfucking month, nigga in November. Let's do it. Let's talk about it, man. For real. Back on figure, I've been treating you. Good, man, good. It changed my life, too.

Starting point is 00:30:54 I could say that, and I'm going to let the record reflect. I had to ask you that again, because I feel like we didn't touch it the way I wanted to touch it like in what you feel like you're really gaining for yourself out of the situation. Uh, shout out to, uh, Terrell because back on Faye changed my life, you feel me. Terrell, my nigga, I'm in a better position. I'm waking up, feeling good now. And like, you had a purpose? Yes, and when I wake up, I look forward for Mondays and Fridays to go talk my shit on the podcast.

Starting point is 00:31:23 Because I feel like when I'm on a podcast or doing anything, I'm free from everything. My stress, everything, anything I'm going through, I don't even think about it. Like right there, I'm just so happy. I'm smiling. I'm with my nigga, you feel me? Stress free. Like, I'm enjoying this. So I love back on figure.

Starting point is 00:31:40 I can't wait for every Monday and Friday so I can go there and really get a peace of mind and really holler at the people that love me and I love them for supporting me. It was dope, right? Because we did the live No Jumper Show. Mm-hmm. Novo.

Starting point is 00:31:56 So. Downtown Los Angeles. Epic. Epic. Everybody was through there. And, you know, I'm hosting. You know, I got to do my time. And you did your thing.

Starting point is 00:32:06 Like I'm doing, thank you, but I'm doing my, like, my job, so I'm watching. I'm more on an observant tip. Like, I'm not even getting faded. Like, I'm not even drinking like that. I think I popped. I had one bottle I popped in my dressing room. I shared that shit with Gina and they all came in, like, it was my people. So like, I just shared the bottle.

Starting point is 00:32:22 Like, I wasn't tripping. I'm more into the notes. Right. You know what I'm saying? And things like that. So I'm more observing. Then I popped the second one on stage with a fan. So I didn't even really drink like that, bro.

Starting point is 00:32:31 I was really just more on my A game because I had a job to really fulfill. Like I can't just go sit and just talk shit on the pod. I got to kind of, you know, conduct. But I'm watching like, you know, I introduce T-Rail, AD, Duno, and it was set for you to be a special, like, surprise. Like, they left you off the note on purpose because AD was going to introduce you. And when you came out, nigga, booting all, your foot was fucked up. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:00 You had a crutch. Yeah, yeah. And still came out, nigga, and was just still, nigger, doing your thing with T. Reh. And to watch the crowd go crazy for you, bro, is when I knew I said, okay, it's something special about this dude. Yeah. Like, people see something in him. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not going to, hey, I'm going to congratulate, bro, when I see it. You know what I'm saying? Like, the people really take a liking to him, man. They don't really say, man, there was an up war when you came out, man. That shit was crazy.

Starting point is 00:33:30 I think, how was that? How was, and I know on that, no, we'll get there, because I got so much I do, too. I got so much shark. I'm enjoying this shit. Like, I want to know how that made you feel. Was that one of your first experiences like that? Like, really stepping on, like, a big stage where, like, you know, it's a big crowd, big platform that you're stepping on. Okay.

Starting point is 00:33:51 How can I put it in respect it? As far as doing the podcasting, yeah, this was the big stage. It was the biggest stage I ever did. You feel me? In the Novo, that's like the baby staple center. So a nigger make it there. You go almost a little. to the top, you feel me?

Starting point is 00:34:06 I felt good, though. You feel me? I was shot. You feel me? They even knew who smack he was. You feel me? And for them to go crazy, I felt some type of way. I was in my feelings.

Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, I was in my feelings. But I love it though, because when the crowd give me that energy, all I know is to throw it back at them. So when they gas me up, oh, I'm going to go crazy. You feel me? Right, right. And that's just me. That's been me all my life.

Starting point is 00:34:33 It was like a class clown effect. You gas me, I'm gonna get even crazy. I'm gonna go even crazy or so when I came out there and they went crazy, I said, oh yeah, and I think the liquor then kicked in too, because my foot was swollen like a bowling ball, right? I got out there and went crazy, but, hey, they played that unrated thing, I said, oh, yeah, I said, oh, they gassed me up.

Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm going, break the knee, yeah, that's what I did that kick. When I do that kick, ah, I said, oh, yeah, it's lit. Yeah. For sure. For sure. No, for sure. Like, no cat. Yes, T. Reel started this shit. He came out and he was Hoover-Stomping.

Starting point is 00:35:10 He was doing this shit. I knew what he was going to do. I ain't going to lie. Like, I love Duno, Duno, my homie. But I felt like he could have probably turned it up a little bit more, but they was back there getting fucked up. I was with him. I was fucked up.

Starting point is 00:35:24 They was back there getting up. I ain't even mad at Duno. Like, the shit that I saw, niggas was back there, boy, just drank it, smoking the room full of smoke. So, nigga, even if you didn't smoke, You was getting high that night. You was getting high that night.

Starting point is 00:35:36 Hey, it was bottles getting dropped broken. And Duno don't even smoke, but he's in the room, nigga, with everybody that smoking. So when I, you know, I introduced him, came out, I'm waiting for him to, oh, hit that shit. He's looking to me like, not tonight, Sharpe. Not tonight, nigga, yeah. Come on here, nigga, where my microphone at?

Starting point is 00:35:54 I respect it. Yeah, hey, I respect Duno. I love Duno. I swear. He was like, nigga, grab my mic real quick. Yeah, the fuck y'all on tonight. He just came out on. some cool energy but I did expect him to kind of like because the first one that we had did at um

Starting point is 00:36:08 at the at the what the L Ray right the L Ray theater we did the one at the L Ray theater and like I nigga he was juice he was juice nigga he was he was on his AD I got the juice he was wait a minute he was he was ready man that shit that shit was wild right there homie I had a I had a good time at the Novo and just like but like I said just to see you come out and just the people take a liking to I got you here. Like, I fuck with you is my nigger, but the people fuck with you, bro. Like, you know, and nigger, you're not rich with millions. You're not, you don't claim to be the richest nigger.

Starting point is 00:36:46 You don't claim to have, but they love you, bro, because I feel like why they love you is that it's organic. That part. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, no, this is really you. I've talked to, this is really you off the camera. Really? Like, even off camera, I fuck up with trying to pronounce words and I just say whatever my brain

Starting point is 00:37:03 Tell me if I think that word, I'm like, I'm pretty sure the average dude going to know, like, I know exactly what he's saying. You feel me? I don't do that shit on purpose. I don't. It's not no act. It's not nothing I put on when there's light camera action. I'm in the same way on camera and off camera, what you see is what you get. I'm not perfect.

Starting point is 00:37:22 And I tell everybody, and that's what I be preaching to people. Be you. I don't care if you can't read, write, whoop, don't let nobody down talk to you and tell you this or that. Because I went through that. I was in special education growing up. You feel me? I didn't know how to read. That's elementary.

Starting point is 00:37:38 Yes. I didn't know how to read and write until I got grown. I say probably 25. I'm gonna keep it clean. I didn't know nothing. From 25 on down, I didn't know shit. And I'm 35 now. I'm just now starting to be really, be on my shit, really breaking down shit, reading

Starting point is 00:37:55 shit, you feel me? And if I don't know something, I'm not ashamed to be like, hey, shark. I don't know what the fuck this shit's say. Can you help me out, bro? Can you read this? That's the energy I'm going to push out to people. Like, don't be ashamed of nothing, whatever you're going through. Embrace it.

Starting point is 00:38:09 You feel me? Because I was talking about all my life. Spell cat, spell the, spell dog. This was my homies, but they made me better. I swear to God, my homies I grew up with on 51st Street, my best friends to this day. That's how they got at me. They used to come to the classroom, open the door up. Ah, he is special head, it all.

Starting point is 00:38:27 You really? But that made me the man I am because they didn't meet no harm by it. They just, they was kids, you feel me? You know, kids do kids things, you feel me? But that made me like really, like, oh man, you can't tell me nothing to my homies that I grew up with. My whole 35 years ain't never told me. So anything you say don't hurt me. Tell me something that I don't know.

Starting point is 00:38:50 So for everybody out there that got something going on, man, just, you feel me? Embrace it. Don't let nobody put y'all down. Do you feel like you, and for you, do you feel like this is something that you're Because I heard you say even earlier, you was like, well, Sharp, you know, the podcast, and I forget everything when I'm out on the court. When I'm out bawling, everything else gets dropped. Do you feel like this is really your passion?

Starting point is 00:39:14 Do you feel like this is where you want to, this is where you really want to be? This is your site for the rest of your life. Like you want to really just create content and help the people. No, for sure, for sure. Facts. This is for sure what I want to do and what I'm going to do. To the day the casket closed, that's what I'm going to do. We'll put this good energy.

Starting point is 00:39:31 and I want to give back to them kids that was in special education. Like I said, when I get a bag, I'm gonna go right on 51st and Hoover to 52nd Street Elementary, you feel me, drop a bag on them, go to John Mirro Middle School, drop a bag on them, you feel me, because them the schools that had me, you feel me? I don't think it was four, five, six, seven of us up in that classroom. Your teachers back then really was trying to teach us. Real. And I'm gonna say this, like, because I don't want to lose sight on it, like, when you

Starting point is 00:39:59 was talking about, like, getting a bag. Church, your bag is going to come. Because I'm going to tell you this. Like, people are going to want you just to even, they're going to pay you to want to even come to their clubs because you bring it in. People don't want to party with Smack. I'm sorry, sir.

Starting point is 00:40:13 No. This is Smack, ladies and gentlemen. Let's remember. Hey, this is what it's. Oh, man. You good. That was real. No, for sure.

Starting point is 00:40:24 Like, but I put it on, do not disturb. That means nobody be calling that bullfugger. So ain't you an ass. You got, what's this iPhone one or something? This is an old-ass ancient one. I'm forget, I broke mine, so now I got to deal with this ancient shit. Yeah, my bad, church. No, you good.

Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm really enjoying myself with you. I swear, like, bro, I've been smiling the whole time, bro. Now I don't know homo, no poor shit. Like, I've been smiling because I'm enjoying myself with somebody I really didn't see in this shit on TV. Now I'm here with him. Fuck watching you on YouTube. Yeah, the shark thing. I know the whole shit.

Starting point is 00:40:59 shit we just grab hey man we just grab arms and try to pull each other up man we try to pull as many homies that we can we try to pull as many resources as we can we're only as good as each other i've always been maybe that's why i'm here is because i've always been even though my background might not it might stain with some right it might be stained walls with some but nigga i've all this just goes to show i've always been a hell of a team player dog for sure i've always I've been a hell of a team player. I ain't never down my homies. I ain't never down, nigga, what we're doing.

Starting point is 00:41:33 I ain't never, I'm just a good team player, bro. I can tell you this now. Which is a good team player. The energy I've been getting from you, bro. You remind me of me. You hear me? You come in peace. You hear me?

Starting point is 00:41:45 I don't want no problem with nobody. You feel me? You got the heart like me. If you see somebody need help, what you need, let me get that mom. Because I want to help people, bro. Because I know myself, like, that's why I don't entertain certain situations,

Starting point is 00:41:57 bro, and I'm going to be real, and I'm going to let the record reflect. Like some people be like, why aren't you saying something to this person? Why aren't you saying something to that person? Because I know myself, once it's up, it's stuck. I'm not going to be cool with you afterwards. And it's just some extra shit. Nigger want to just run his mouth.

Starting point is 00:42:10 Hey, man, just run it. I'm not, I don't worry about none of that, homie. Niggas, you know how to find you, dog. Look, you can't because that's where people go wrong about, worried about everything else that ain't got nothing to do with them. Now they're brain wrecked. If it ain't got nothing to do with smacky or sharp, it ain't my business. I don't care too.

Starting point is 00:42:28 fucking thoughts about that shit. You feel me? I come in peace. I come in peace. Leave us alone. You ain't bothering you, don't bother me. That's how I rock

Starting point is 00:42:37 and that's how I'm living, man. Because I'll be real. And I've said this already. And I know it's like niggies that get online and we're going to talk about like controversy. Like niggas want to get, we got to go there. Yeah, let's go.

Starting point is 00:42:47 You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas want to talk shit online and do all that extra shit, honey. Like you must not really got no problem. I wouldn't do none of that. I don't do that, honey. You can call me, nigger. I'm a fucking phone call away.

Starting point is 00:43:00 You can't find it, nigga. That part. Trust me, because as much as you probably trying to look for me, I'm looking for you, nigga. It's vice versa, nigga. That's what it's going to be, bro. I'm not going to sit there and do no it. That's how I know.

Starting point is 00:43:10 Mubbuggles just want clicks. I'm not into it for clicks. Everything that I do is organic, Comey, even if I'm getting on the bitch. That part. I'm just trying to help the bitch. I'm doing more than what most is. They're going to continue to let the bitch be a crash dummy. They're going to let her crash and burn.

Starting point is 00:43:26 They keep bumping her motherfucking head. At least I'm over here telling her, hey, baby, no, popping her on her hand. Don't do that. No, stop. Don't. That part, in that order. You know what I'm saying? You can't be mad at me for that, man.

Starting point is 00:43:40 I pop the hand and tell him, hey, man, stop doing that shit. I got my hand popped. Right. How do you think I know this knowledge? You got to learn it from somewhere. This shit had to exist. This isn't just me, some crazy-ass light skin, nigger, sitting there just thinking of this shit all by myself.

Starting point is 00:43:55 And let's just see how the tables turn. No Like come on homie like I was taught this shit coming up by real fucking solid individuals man That part this shit that don't really exist no more. That's why people don't really fucking understand it smack Hey trust me you ever just said a key word the shit that don't exist no more Niggins a dying breed thank you because nowadays these youngsters feel like they ain't got it listening to nobody It's no honor amongst these up hey hey what he say since Bumpy Johnson been gone Everybody's for their self

Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, it ain't no structure. It used to be, you know, honor amongst motherfucking thieves. Now it's a, I'm going to tell on him before he tells on me. Why you got that mentality? Right. Why are you even running around with that mentality? That's sick. You have a sickness.

Starting point is 00:44:42 For sure. For sure. You're sick in the mind. To even run around with that shit. With that even in your brain. Come on, I'm going to tell on him before he'd tell on me. You know what? I feel like this.

Starting point is 00:44:52 If you ever had to urge or the purge to go and tell on somebody, you should think first that maybe this ain't for me. That part. Maybe I should just walk away. But motherfuckers want to tell and still go try to do the dirt. I don't like that. How you dirty and you try to tell?

Starting point is 00:45:04 That poor. Jonathan. How you try to tell? How you're trying to tell on some damn body? That's why I don't be even trying to entertain none of this shit because half the niggas that really do be talking shit even on the internet you do something to them, they're going to tell.

Starting point is 00:45:17 They're going to tell. They can't wait to tell. Hell, they're already telling them that they got a problem with you already on media. That part. They're already letting you know they're telling. That's why I say. I wish it.

Starting point is 00:45:26 I like, I wish it. And I'm gonna say, I ain't saying I wish it, but yeah, I do. But fuck that. What I say is what I mean. What I mean is what I say. I'm standing on it. I'm standing on you.

Starting point is 00:45:34 Hey, any nigga that had ever a problem, homie. Nigna, you know my number, nigga. I'm probably only two phone calls away from you. So you ain't got to get online, nigga, and go on no banter, nigga. You can call, nigga, and we can figure it out and wherever we got to meet at the rendezvous point. Hey, man, that's on me and you.

Starting point is 00:45:52 That ain't on nobody else's concern of business. Preach. That's all I'm saying, homie. Hey, and I'm gonna stand on it, though. Like, I feel like if they take this YouTube, Instagram, and all this shit away, these motherfuckers will be killing their self going crazy. They will. I believe that.

Starting point is 00:46:08 I really believe that. And like I said, I said I wish they would because a lot of stuff wouldn't be happening. A lot of people, and they want to go on live. Elaborate for us, church. I'm elaborate, okay? Like, for example, how many killings you're seeing on Instagram, YouTube?

Starting point is 00:46:23 You hear me? And the killings was over... It's promoted. The killings was over. Instagram. YouTube. You hear me? Fuck you.

Starting point is 00:46:31 Uh, uh, this, that, that, right? Now, take that away. Take that away now. We're going to take away YouTube and Instagram. Ain't no YouTube Instagram. And see what real problem you got with somebody. That part. I feel you on that.

Starting point is 00:46:44 That part. That was the real, honey. And see what type of real funk you got with somebody. Yeah. Take all that shit out of the equation, the Instagram, the YouTube. You take all that shit out where a nigga can get online, and pop all that goofy shit.

Starting point is 00:46:56 But, nigga, every time you see a nigga at the 7-Eleven, nigga, at the mini-mark, nigga, he ain't on none of that shit. That part. That nigga is super nice. Because Shark, think about it. Super nice. I don't, hey, when I grew up,

Starting point is 00:47:07 we had to play Littendo, 64, Sega Genesis, and all that other shit, right? All we had was Mind Space. You hear me? What was the other shit? The party line, I mean, the loop. Remember the loop? Niggies get on there and talk this shit.

Starting point is 00:47:20 Let's think about it even, let's go back even further as kids, right, before you even jump to the, party line and shit like that. Let's think about even the kids. You had the main thing that kids had, like when we were young, dog was imagination.

Starting point is 00:47:34 Imagination don't really exist like that no more. Like people even have it as they're grown, but it's been blocked out. You don't really have imagination. That's why there's writers block. Or, you know, you can't really think of to make that, like I was talking to James Lerese earlier, like that brick wall.

Starting point is 00:47:52 You know what I'm saying? Like, how do you get over this wall? You know what I'm saying? People get stuck, bro, because they have failed to continue to have an imagination They go online. They go on TV or they go and they watch all this stuff and they think that that's well, they're telling me how to live There's people that wake up every motherfucking day smack right right that get on their Instagram get on all their social media and they expect that's telling them how to live Now look I'm gonna go off of that to tell them how to live now look I'm not getting no this person's probably fucking lying soon as they getting off They're off line. They're about to get smashed up.

Starting point is 00:48:26 They house fucked up. They house smell like pancake syrup. There's seven kids run around. Half of them, the hair ain't done. They dusty. But you're gonna get online and try to tell me what a goal is. You're not about to tell me shit. Now think about this now.

Starting point is 00:48:40 And this even goes for me. I'm gonna keep it all the way solid. Think about... Now, when we grew up, we didn't have this shit. The YouTube Instagram, right? Now, look, think about... We got a voice now. This is a real conversation that's getting captured.

Starting point is 00:48:52 Look, picture this now. Now, when everybody, I'm pretty sure everybody in this room than did it before, even if you're going to go take a piss. The first thing you do, grab your phone. You're trying to see who texts, who called, who hit the DM, what's going on? That's just facts. Now, take that shit away. Laura, don't say, hell no, you just different because you work with it all the time.

Starting point is 00:49:14 So you're like, you feel good. Wait, what did she say? She was just like, hell no, she's not getting her phone to the bathroom. But, but, Laura, you kind of differ. Now, I say it on the record. You deal with it so much. Of course, when you go home, you want your break. No.

Starting point is 00:49:28 Oh, she said yes, a hygiene. Okay, okay. I got to remember Mrs. Hand sanitizer. Okay, but look, look, look, no. Oh, man. Look, look. I respect your narrative. I love your narrative.

Starting point is 00:49:38 You hear me? I respect your narrative. I love it. But you know, let's just keep you out the equation. Everybody in this motherfucker and had their phone up in that motherfucker taking a shit and piss like this. Like a mud.

Starting point is 00:49:49 Doing what they're doing. Come on. I don't care if it's two, three, four in the morning. They're like this. They're trying to see what's the new, what's the update? What's going on? Somebody got to did this? Oh, what's Tommy Green and Lee in them talking about?

Starting point is 00:50:02 Oh, they still beefing. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Hey, wow, shit. It's going up. She made another post. She put Tommy Lee and them out there. She said the nitty don't take baths every day.

Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, me. Like, they go for the drama. Yeah. For sure. Mm. What are you, uh, I got to ask you. I just want to see your take on things, man, just to ask you some real questions.

Starting point is 00:50:32 Like, man, what do you take? What's your take on the music scene today? From you growing up, from listening, probably, gang, I know you did. I'm not going to say, I think, but you growing up on gangster rap to today's music. I don't like today's music, because gangs, like, back when we were growing up, rapping was,

Starting point is 00:50:50 if I got a problem with Shark, we're just gonna talk this shit out on the record. You're gonna say what you say, I'm gonna say what I say. If we see each other in person, in person, it might be a little scuffer when to fight, somebody chained might get snatched. That's about it. These dudes rapping about shit they're really done and killing and all that, and they're promoting violence.

Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm not with the violence. Like, think about it, bro. Back then, they was talking crazy, but they weren't talking crazy like these. They're going to tell you, yeah, I pop, smack, this and do. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, like, nah, it ain't about that, my nigga. Like, if you're going to keep in music, keep it, and rap about it. But don't rap about the real shit you're doing, you feel me? But they want to rap about promoting killing

Starting point is 00:51:27 I'm not with that, sure, I'm not with it I gotta ask you, do you think that there's a lot of cap in some people's rap? A lot of cap in a gang of these niggas rap. Right, and just for them to say, like, because I'm trying to level here with you from when you say, like, you know, a nigger promotes this violence, but nine times,

Starting point is 00:51:43 eight times out of ten. I'll say eight times and give it its due. Eight times out of ten, niggas don't even be telling the truth about what they're doing. They probably telling their homie's life. That is what they doing. They're telling the story. that they didn't seen, and the movie they didn't seen. Think about this, church.

Starting point is 00:52:00 I grew up listening to Ice Cube, Ice T, E, E, Snoop, you feel me? All them, you feel me, NWA, you feel me? NWA, you feel me? It was problems back then, but they never heard a nigga getting killed over them problems. It was, oh, he got his chains and that. Oh, it was a scuffle. He had a fade. He got knocked out. Now it's different.

Starting point is 00:52:20 These dudes, not to go out to something, but these dudes never. No, you're right on subject, no. Like us, we grew up, I got all type of scars and from jumping on trees as a kid. I was a real kid as a kid. These kids is not kids as a kid. This is a whole new generation right here. These kids, it's got guns at 12 years old

Starting point is 00:52:38 that's bigger than me and you. You hear me? They got guns. I can't even spell the names of the motherfuckers. You hear me? Facts, Tommy. Ain't no more fighting. If you hit one of these junctions right now,

Starting point is 00:52:48 it's like you didn't slap them across the face with a brick shark. First thing they're going to do is, ah, go. Well, I've seen, I've seen like today like what kind of scares me especially it goes on more in the black community

Starting point is 00:53:01 you know for us like because I love the black community man black is beautiful man like I feel like we the strongest in the world like for real we just got to really tap into it we just we we praise the wrong things let's talk about it you know what I'm saying we just praise for the wrong things

Starting point is 00:53:20 we were taught to praise trinkets you know what I'm saying instead of praise the power that we truly with And another thing, blacks, I love us, I love us. That's what made us. I love us. But we gotta learn to stick together. Instead of hating on, oh, that nigger, Shark, he fly, but you ain't gonna tell Shark he fly in your head.

Starting point is 00:53:40 You know, that nigga think he fly. Like that's your, like, no. Instead of saying Shark, man, he's flying in the motherfucker, nigger. You duggy, you feel me? That type of shit motivates me. We gonna get better because of conversations like this, and I feel like we're gonna get better. I got faith in us. I do too.

Starting point is 00:53:56 I know that I know that we're going to make it and that we're going to turn the toll. You know what I'm saying? But back to what I was trying to say was, like, I don't be understanding like the drill rap effect of it. Like these kids look up to the drill rappers. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:10 You know what I'm saying? And when you look at drill rap, like y'all niggas can rap about anything and these niggas gonna love y'all regardless. Just take the guns out the mix. Because like you said, you got this 17-year-old nigger that's got to pull him and the chick

Starting point is 00:54:21 that he's going to prom with. Niggin, they both got extended clips and taking the picture. I don't understand that part, bro. Like, I don't get it. You're too fucking young to have a thousand enemies. I don't believe that. That part.

Starting point is 00:54:34 I don't believe that, bro. You're too young to have a thousand enemies. You're not even on like that. You're just running around with a stick. That's your manpower. I feel like guns, man. Like, motherfuckers really be, and this is a lot of people. This is a broad.

Starting point is 00:54:47 This ain't just black. Like, this white, this makes it. Like, everybody that be having, like, control, like guns on me, they don't really, like, you pick them up, but you don't even really know what to do. with them. You don't even really know what they're for. People pick them up and try to brandish them. You don't do that, nigga.

Starting point is 00:55:00 Anytime you ever pull the stick, nigga, you better do something with it. That part. That's how I was raised. You put it, you better use it. And you know what? There was a lot less people running around with them that knew that. That part. You understand what I'm saying? You could go into the store and just buy one. It was a lot less people running around with

Starting point is 00:55:17 guns that knew that. Like, if you pulled one, you better do something with it. Now, everybody just runs around with them in videos and pictures. and nigger look at me like, nigga, yeah, got the biggest extended pole. Like, nigga, it's not about any of that, bro. Because half the niggas that have them,

Starting point is 00:55:33 man, they don't even shoot straight and look how many innocent lives get lost. Y'all niggas only be knowing what you're doing with them. I hope they feel kind of dumb. Some of the ones that have them, man, that straight bullets don't hit shit. Like, nigga, come on, bro. You don't even know what you're doing.

Starting point is 00:55:46 You, nigga, you hit everybody, but the nigger you was aiming for it. That part. That's sad. That's sad than the motherfucker. That's sad because that causes a lot of other shit that goes on. bro and that's why I feel like be really a problem with the community.

Starting point is 00:55:59 You know what I'm saying? That's facts. That's facts. That's facts like a motherfucker, bro. That's why I said, Shark. That's why I be pushing positive, you feel me? I come in peace. I always hear you say that.

Starting point is 00:56:08 I come in peace. I come in peace, dog. I always hear you say that on anything you do. And I want everybody to come in peace, my name, because we all we got. Once our eyes closed and it's lights out, cancel Christmas is over. We're gone. So why live your life? Got to end up in jail for killing somebody.

Starting point is 00:56:24 catch a fade. A fade ain't nothing. I fought my best friends. I fought my brothers. My sisters. But you have to understand. That was without it being posted on the internet. So it's different.

Starting point is 00:56:37 Like, nigga, asswopings get posted. People take them personally. Now other people are involved. Oh, shit, you got your ass whipped. It don't just like, hey, yeah, they got down. Whatever happened, nigga, that shit happens. You know what I'm saying? And that shit's where it kind of stopped.

Starting point is 00:56:52 Now it's like, nigga, oh, yeah, I slapped this nigga. I'm, man, it's getting posted. Nigga, I'll beat this nigga's ass. Nigger, it's getting posted. Nigga, what you mean? Nigga, look what I did to him, pussy. Nigga, I'm beating his ass. Now, this nigga, he has no choice but to feel like it's got to be retaliation.

Starting point is 00:57:07 He's got to one-up you because, nigga, you already got the internet on him. That shit fucks up people's lives, bro. No, that's why I said, take that shit away. They'll go crazy and kill themselves. I don't listen to me. I'll be real with you. I'll be real with you, dog, and people can disagree with me. you know, either, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind

Starting point is 00:57:26 social media getting took in away myself because I feel like it fuels a lot of people's sickness. And if we're really trying to fix people for real, bro, because it makes people that was never fucking shit trying to have a voice. Like you ain't do shit for it. Think about this, church. When somebody gets shot,

Starting point is 00:57:45 the first thing he comes to these weird old heads out here is let me instant gram it. Not call 9-1-1, get the paramedics here, to say this man life or this lady life, they want an instant gram it. I hate it, Church. I'm looking at you in your eye. Every person who ever did that

Starting point is 00:58:01 when somebody was on the ground hurt, you ain't shit. I don't fuck with you. You're supposed to be trying to call 911. You want to get you a clip and go viral. That shit is watered down and weak to me. I'm an 80s baby, bro.

Starting point is 00:58:13 I'm telling you, church, that is weak. I don't respect nobody. So anybody I don't care if I got followers that ever did that. If you quit following me, I don't care, but I don't respect that. Oh, well, they was calling the police already. So what?

Starting point is 00:58:25 You know how those police lines work, nigga, it might be bitten you. But now, putting somebody that's in harm and they're breathing for their life trying to catch their breath to live. And the only thing you could do is this instead of taking your shirt off, plying pressure, trying to help this person.

Starting point is 00:58:39 All you can do is this. So you can go viral, you're pussy. I agree with that. 1,000%. That's my narrative. No, that's the real. You said, you said, we stand on what we say, right?

Starting point is 00:58:52 I stand on that. I love reflection. I love sitting back and having these conversations, man, because I feel like they're not had enough. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're not... We entertain, yes.

Starting point is 00:59:14 Like, there's... I've done fun shit. Like, I've done fun interviews and things like that. But to, like, really sit back and reflect, like, what's going wrong with America? Because that's all I can speak for I can't speak for the world, man I've never lived in other places

Starting point is 00:59:31 to understand people's religions or people's other beliefs but nigga what's really going on right here bro I think we've really we've spoke on it. No, for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? For sure, man.

Starting point is 00:59:45 What's the plan before we get about it? I got to know, nigga, you can always come kick it with me. I just want a podcast with you. I want a podcast with you and do whatever. Even if it ain't podcasted just kicking it, niggas smoking a joint thing. smoking a new pork, having us a little champagne shot somewhere. Man, whatever.

Starting point is 01:00:00 For sure. What show, what is, I ask everybody this, because I feel like it's very detrimental to my podcast and what I do in interviewing, because I like to know this, because I feel like it puts a focus on you to where you can really push, and the viewers, like, really holds you to it.

Starting point is 01:00:17 And myself, where do you see smack in the next five years? Where do you want him to be? See smack in the next five years? in Calabasca behind that Gettie community, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, living off the benefits that I earned, you feel me? You feel me? You feel me? Living off everything that I deserve and earn, because I don't want nothing less or nothing more.

Starting point is 01:00:38 Just whatever I work for, that's what I want. And I want to live off that and be happy and be happy. And I wish everybody else to be happy in the world, you feel me? That'd make me super happy. That's when in five years, if everybody could be more happy and more together, I'll be blessed with that. I don't need no money. You were a man that was shot nine times.

Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. So walk us, we got to walk through that a little bit. We could. If you don't mind. Man, I told you I'm open book, man. Because I think that that, I'm going to be real, bro. I think that that's what's made you probably how you are with that love. That's what I'm getting from.

Starting point is 01:01:17 I'm like, he's talking like this thing had been, this nigga, have been through some shit. So that's why he, nigger, to have hate, he's like, nigga, I got shot with hate. I got shot with hate. I had hate in my heart as I got shot. Man. You know what I'm saying? So it was, I could feel you if you want to really stray away from that. No, I don't want to stray away from it.

Starting point is 01:01:36 I want to tell my story. Like I said, I want to be that person that they could look at and be like, that nigga, keep it real. And he's telling you everything. I might as well keep it real. Like I said, don't be shy of nothing you got going on with you. Whether you can't read, right? Embrace it.

Starting point is 01:01:52 So we could talk about it. Those shots made me better. It made me a better man. When I seen that devil and was looking down that devil barrel where I was getting all them bullets in my body at 17 years old, I'd seen the devil. I was looking at him. Looking at him.

Starting point is 01:02:09 Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Like, you serious? Me? Pow, pow, pow, bow. Like, I was looking at the devil. But we could go through it, though. What you want to talk about about it? What you want me to say?

Starting point is 01:02:23 I just want to know, like, What was your experience from that, like, when it happened? Like, what did you remember even? I'll be real, because I always think of shit like this. Like, nigga, would you eat that morning? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, what did you get up?

Starting point is 01:02:34 Like, what was your day planned out to be that day? Okay. Now I'm going to break it down for you like this. What I ate for breakfast? I don't remember. Yeah, me. I don't remember. I was just using that.

Starting point is 01:02:44 No, I know what you said? I got a joke. So my plans was to go to the home grow, Lexus's house, what I did do. Kick it with her all day. You feel me? What I did do. And then go home. You feel me?

Starting point is 01:02:56 She's staying on the east side in the Broadway. You feel me? So I'm like, I'm going to go home. Broadway, Five Ducey. So I called Miles. She had a Thunderbird back then. I'm like, Mama, come get me. We had chirps.

Starting point is 01:03:07 The I, 7, 10s, the I 30s, all that shit. I'm like, come get me. Because I know you don't want me walking this time at night. And I wrote the bicycle over there, my dirt bike. I'm like, and you don't want me driving a dirt bike at night and you say, I ain't got lights on it. She's like, all right, I come get you. I left my chirp there.

Starting point is 01:03:23 So when we pull into the house, she's like, son, what's up? She's like, God telling me something that happened to you tonight. I looked at her like, what? Man, you're tripping, mama. She said, son, come here, let me pray for you. Something's going to happen to you tonight. Stay in the house. I said, yeah, whatever.

Starting point is 01:03:41 Let me do this prayer. Okay. She's like, you ain't going back outside? I said, oh, my phone. I left it out of Alexis house. Swear to God, true story. She's like, all right, come on. I'm gonna take you back over here and get your phone.

Starting point is 01:03:54 You feel me? She took me, got my phone. When you put up in that driveway, she grabbed me and said, son, I love you. But something's going to happen to you. God is telling me, I went in the house, laid down, on my phone run. Where you at?

Starting point is 01:04:09 Shit, I'm at the house. Oh, yeah, come on, woo-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-p. We're going to do this. Got in that car and it was over with, when I got out that car, nigger, pop me six times. Pop, pop, pop. Like, what the fuck is going on?

Starting point is 01:04:25 That's why I say I've seen the devil because I know the person. You know what I'm saying? I seen the devil. Look me in my eye and just pop-p-p-p-p-and I'm 17. You see I'm a little dude already. I'm 17, nigga, I'm catching everything. Pooh, pooh, pooh, poo, poo, pooh, pooh, pooh. As shots, all that.

Starting point is 01:04:47 I'm catching every bullet. Every bullet that was in that chamber hit me. Hit me hard. I can't breathe. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Is this shit real? Shout out to the Hispanic lady that stayed across the street from me. The block I got shot on, she moved over there.

Starting point is 01:05:05 I shook her gate. Help, help. She came down. She said, oh, my God, this Cassandra's son, 51st. Her husband told her his wife, jump in the car, go get his mama. I got him. He on the phone with the paramedics. That's how I happened, though.

Starting point is 01:05:21 Facts. That's why I say I seen the devil. I looked him in the heart. the devil. There's somebody slept in my house. I slept in his house, slept in the same bed. I seen the devil. And that will make me change my life

Starting point is 01:05:49 to like streets don't love nobody, bro. That's why I'm so passionate about putting the guns down on the body. That's why I'm so passionate about it because you made a statement, close to niggot to you or do you and try to screw you, backstab you in the back in the back in like they never knew you.

Starting point is 01:06:06 That's why I say I seen the devil short. And that's fact, dog. I'm damn nearly ready to drop a tear right now just telling that story the way I just told you. It was somebody I know. My loved one. Do what I love.

Starting point is 01:06:21 I love. I love. You couldn't tell me nothing about this dude. Do you hear me? You couldn't tell me shit. Niggins. What? We're going to get in him, nigga.

Starting point is 01:06:31 Like, that's why I said I seen the devil, dog. And that's why I pushed this. I come in peace because that owed me. I'd be dead or in jail right now. Tell him. That's why I thank the Matt God for changing my life. That's why I thank this podcasting and all the shit I've been doing with bro going on tours.

Starting point is 01:06:55 I love it and I embrace it. So if I could change somebody life in this world where they ain't got to go through what I went through, I'm going to do that. Whether I don't get a buffalo nickel for nothing I ever do, long as I know I motivated somebody to not go down That same road I went too. Don't go that.

Starting point is 01:07:15 Pick this road, bro. Don't gang bang. That ain't it. Nah, no. Don't go selling dope. That ain't it. You got what I'm saying? Go this way.

Starting point is 01:07:26 You play basketball, don't you? Yeah. Go ball. Be in the gym like Kobe. You know what I'm saying? You do this, right? Go get that job. Yeah, work your way up to be a manager.

Starting point is 01:07:37 Whatever. That's why I push what I push, bro. And I really appreciate you having me your podcast. Like, I ain't going to cap or hold you, bro. Like, I feel good, you feel me? But I want to drop a tear right now just because my story is my life.

Starting point is 01:07:53 Like, this is what I went through. This is what made me the man I am today. And for our young, black culture, any culture, Hispanic, Chinese, race, I don't care what color you is because we all bleed blood, red. You feel me? If I could change somebody's life, I love

Starting point is 01:08:09 it. That's what makes my day. That's what makes my day. I get DMs every day smack. I've been you changed my life, Woof, because I talked to the people. I said this on somebody's podcast. I opened all

Starting point is 01:08:24 my DMs, whether I don't say nothing to you, or whether I just double tap and put the heart, or if I say something to you, at least I gave you the honor and respect to know. I opened it up. You could go DM the biggest rappers right now. They're not going to open shit. They're not even going to look at you.

Starting point is 01:08:41 At least I acknowledge you. As a human being, and it's not one DM in my phone, I never opened up. Like I said, whether I talk, double-liked it, or said something. I'm gonna acknowledge the people that made me who I am. I wanna get y'all that love to know that. And I promise you, go look at the comments after this.

Starting point is 01:09:01 They're gonna be like, he opened my DM, he opened my, ain't nobody gonna ever say I ain't open a DM. Because I know how this shit is, church. We all we got, and I don't care what ratio is. all we got. When they cancel Christmas, cut them lights off, and you in that casket, and they close it and lock it with that key,

Starting point is 01:09:21 ain't no coming back. So don't let nobody disturb you from how you want to live your life. Don't let nobody talk about you. Laugh about it. Ah, yeah, that part. Ah, yeah, okay. Because when it's curtains, you can't turn back the hands of time.

Starting point is 01:09:37 So that's why I live my life the fullest, whether I fuck up, say something, misspell or misread, I love it. Oh, well, I'm not going to have no regrets about nothing in my life. That's from the bottom of my heart. We're going to end it on that note. I appreciate you.

Starting point is 01:10:00 I appreciate you coming through and bringing truth. And overall, bringing transparency. Because that's what that symbol right there is standing for. and I feel like you executed that right now with flying colors my brother. Thank you bro. You probably will this was a masterpiece

Starting point is 01:10:27 and even I don't give a fuck nigga if it gets 100 likes, 50 likes or a million it'll never stand to what it made me feel walking through with you right now. I appreciate you smack

Starting point is 01:10:45 for coming and fuck with you. I appreciate you, bro. Like I said, we locked in, man, for life. Whatever you need, I'm a phone call. Wait, we got each other's number. And I can't wait to come to Vegas and tap in so you can show me the city. Yeah, we're going to do it. We're going to like this.

Starting point is 01:11:01 This was another sharp gumble special. The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, Riley, we're going to put the guns down. We're going to leave with silence. Cheers. Chair.

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