No Jumper - Smac TDE on His Years in The Streets, Being Schoolboy Q’s Brother, TDE Losing Kendrick
Episode Date: November 8, 2022Smac talks about his upbringing, family dynamic, fatherhood, the streets, Schoolboy Q, T-Rell and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 6:42 Getting sh*t 6 times and being in a coma for 2 months 13:50 Smac on not ...being claimed by his father and swinging on him 25:32 When did Smac's life change and becoming a p**p 30:39 "What's the key to dealing with that many wild chicks?" 32:32 Smac approves of Adam's lifestyle 35:55 Being apart of ScHoolboy Q's rise 45:45 When TDE became more separated 52:45 YouTube videos titled: "The Downfall of TDE" 58:14 Play videogames or go outside and get k____ 1:01:10 When Smac met T-Rell 1:22:00 Being in a movie with Denzel Washington while wearing a dress 1:25:25 Receiving the name "Smac" --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world.
And today I'm in here to learn more about somebody who has entered my orbit,
who's making moves within the No Jumper universe,
how to David Russell clip or two running up numbers.
He's back on a fig with it.
Smack.
You know what I mean?
In the building.
No cap.
No cap.
It's an honor and a pleasure to be in a building with you.
Hey, man.
one thing I always say about potting is that you know I'll learn this lesson with Crip Mac one way or another is that it don't matter if somebody sold a million records or if somebody you know has been in a movie or whatever the fuck it is it's like there's a lot of different ways to be famous in this day and age and there's a lot of there's a lot of people who have amazing stories to tell and an amazing way to tell their stories that might not necessarily have a traditional upbringing but that's what I always want to do I always want to tell interesting stories so
I'm glad we get to delve into this one.
Let's do it.
I'm open like a book.
Let's go.
Because you're a real, you're a real guy.
Yes.
You're putting the real version of yourself out there for the people.
I mess up.
I might say a word wrong.
I'm just being me and that's all I know how to be is me.
Either they're going to like me or you're not.
You might wild out on a bitch.
You might tell you got a Bentley out in the parking lot.
Yeah, I might tell I got a double R. Bentley, a six-story house or a big backyard, you know,
to me.
Right.
But I'm really going to a two-bear-room house.
Right.
Yeah, I'm a sell my story.
and make it sound good.
That's part of what makes smack smack.
That part.
All right, let's start from the beginning.
Let's go.
Vlad style.
This is your first time here.
So let's start from the beginning.
Let's do it.
I heard Vlad say that about 1,800 times.
I shout out Blatry, man.
Shut up, Black.
What was your childhood like?
Take me to the earliest days.
Oh, the earliest days.
I'm going to take you all the way back to, my website 13.
When I joined a little clique called Flirts, man, me and my crew, man.
It was like 51st Street flirts, but we always, like, dudes that dress fly.
We don't gang bang or nothing.
There was other cliques, but we just fly.
We got the ass-cruill kids, the whole nine yards.
And flirt sounded mad hard at the time, because I'm going to be real with you, flirt.
Like, I've never, like, wanted to describe myself as a flirt throughout my life.
But when you say it like that, I can kind of feel.
There's a bunch of shit like that and gangbanging where it wouldn't sound hard if it wasn't a gang thing, but it's a gang thing, so it sounds hard.
Yeah, we can't.
in peace. We came in peace.
We just wanted to knock you off of your girl
or something. You're like, flirt.
That's what we used to do. Walk around
John here, flirt. So this
wasn't a blood or crippling. This is just a straight
little crew. Straight crew. We was all born
on 51st century. We all grew up.
Our mamas grew up with each other. We all
grew up in the same community.
And so this wasn't a terribly
violent thing at that time, though?
We was fighting other cliques, like 3P
hustlers and 5 star
panics, you know what? A P.
ass t's, but it wasn't nothing but just a fight.
You got to remember, I'm an 80s, baby.
I'll be 35 and nine days.
Okay.
So you've seen Game Bangor before it became straight up bloodshed
every time there was an altercation?
For sure.
Like, this new era is crazy.
The game's they're the same, but the players in the game change.
This is like different penalties expected for shit these days?
Not even different penalties because it's like these days,
they don't respect the culture.
They don't respect nothing.
They think they know more than me and no more.
Like, I've been here before you.
I know your mom.
I know your daddy.
So you expected that by the time you got to this point in your life
that the younger generation of street kids, rap kids, et cetera, would have,
they would have some more respected.
They would care.
Because you felt that way towards 35-year-olds, 40-year-olds when you're a kid.
I'm looking up to them.
Like, yeah, because they ain't going to tell me nothing wrong.
You feel me?
I'm listening now.
These youngsters these days, these 2,000 or something babies,
oh, they feel like, oh, yeah, I got the bag,
yeah, read, I'll have went through a few weirdos.
You can't tell me nothing.
Like, okay, well, good luck.
Nika, don't crash and brown, you know what I mean?
But I paid attention and listen, that's how I got to where I'm in now.
You feel me?
Really?
So you wanted to earn the respect to the OGs in your area when you were young?
Yeah, for sure I did, because I looked up to them.
That was my daddy.
I never had a daddy in my life.
My daddy never claimed me.
Really?
So, yeah, like all my brothers and them, they was turning to sports and stuff.
I never was good in sports.
So all I knew was, if I go out here, they're going to smoke a few blunts.
I'm going to hear some exclusive stories here to be.
and that's what drew me out there
you, you know, for me? Yeah.
So it wasn't like, some people say they're like
get drawn to the gang shit because they got
revenge on their mind or whatever.
No, no, no, it wasn't more chill shit.
Nah, because we family orientate, it wasn't none of that.
And when you talk about that crew era, though,
are you even thinking about that shit
in comparison to the gang shit?
Because I feel like all that shit
has to, like, funnel into gang shit at some point, right?
I feel like that's what starts you to be in the gang.
You feel me?
Yeah, I feel like that, yeah.
Yeah, because even like, you could think of a bunch of rap
crews that were pretty much crews and then at some point they turns to a game the line becomes
blurry yeah yeah me facts facts okay okay so all right how do you sort of age out of that how do you
how do you end up getting put on the set are we going to fast forward to that yeah we could go uh shit
basically like when we got in middle school it the fighting got to fighting but it was even more
worse than fighting and then the older homie's like bray y'all need to uh might as well get put on y'all in the
hood thugging y'all fighting you're fighting you're fighting
beating up stuff.
We like,
bro, we hear you.
We ain't doing none of that.
Like, these people that's telling us
no, our momas,
they grew up with our moms,
you feel?
We're like,
Nickish, Shane,
we ain't doing that?
Like, we flirt.
But then that's-
So you thought Game Bang was lame
or you thought you were going to be able
avoid it?
No, I knew I wasn't going to be able to avoid it.
Like, I knew that was my next step.
I just wanted to figure this out
and make sure I got the fighting skills
here to be.
So, yeah,
I already knew where I was headed
like with this shit
because the streets is would show me love.
I didn't have a day.
So yeah, I knew that
So once that started happening
And the shooting started happening
That's when it was like
Okay, it's real now
Because they're shooting at us
And we don't gang bang
Right
Like we're dodging bullets
And we don't gang bang
And these is grown men
But you're like
But you're getting shot up by who
But people that just hate the area
That you're in?
Yeah, they hate that area
So now think about
You got middle school kids
Some of us is my size
Some of them's bigger than me
But we're in the middle school though
And you got a grown nigga
Pulling up so on fuck with you bull
Bawbubh
And you don't even know
He's talking about
I know what he's talking about because I'm here.
But it ain't really your shit.
But I ain't thinking it's coming to me though.
Like you're looking at the wrong thing.
You need to go hit some old blocks because we ain't the ones you're looking for.
Right.
And he's like, fuck it, boom, boom.
That's what I'm like, I'm tired.
I'm ready to come home.
Right.
That's how my shit got started.
Damn.
But, okay.
So once you get put on, though, how's your life change?
Dramatically.
After I got put on, I've been shot nine times.
I got shot the first time, six times.
I was in a coma for two months.
What age was?
that at?
17.
Fresh out of camp, Camp Carl Hart.
So you get put away for how long?
Seven to eight, nine months I end up
doing. For what?
Stronger and robbery.
Okay. How'd that go down? What were you doing?
Ben Wilde, walked to the corner, tried to take
some Hispanics bikes and...
Just a random dude, taking damn near nothing
off them? Like, they had bikes, though.
They had the cleanest one. The blue seeds.
They had the little rings around.
I don't know they had the decked-out bikes.
So we like, shit. We broke, niggas.
Let's take this and we go sell this real quick.
Boy, the boys will let go to bikes.
I'm talking about they gave us a squabble out this world, bit one of our boys on their chest.
I'm going to let's take these bikes.
I thought it was going to be a simple, boo, boo, boo, boo.
We're out here.
They're like, no, we want our bikes.
They squabble us down for them.
You got to stand on your bike, right?
Sure, they squabble us down.
Police pulled up why it was going on.
So you pulled the gun out, and they still didn't want to give the bike.
They didn't want the bike.
They wasn't playing.
And then bikes were worth money back then when I was growing up.
You have a low-rider bike?
That meant your mama got chilly.
I mean, I had a bike my whole life, and it was the most important thing to me.
Never got my bike stall in one time.
But if somebody ever pointed a gun at me and said, give me your bike, I would say, here you go.
Thank you.
I already did the same thing.
Take it.
But they didn't let them bike go.
Free bike.
Here you go.
He was not letting them bikes go.
I swear to God.
When I was in high school, a couple times somebody would come up with me and say, I'll fight you for your bike.
And I would try to.
I'm going to tell them straight out.
I'm not going to fight you for my bike
because if I lose, you still not taking my
motherfucking bike.
Yeah.
So you might want to do what you go do.
Yeah, yeah.
That was kind of my sentiment as well.
It was like, nah, like, if you want to try to take my bike,
I guess I'm going to have to fight you, but I'm not going to fight you for my bike.
That's the wrong order of operations.
Like, you want to fight me?
You stupid?
Okay.
That is not the order, bro.
No.
You take my shit and then I got to fight you.
Yeah, that's out.
I don't fight you to decide the ownership.
The ownership has already been decided.
And then that's when I was saying, the clique shit.
Yeah.
My homies, they felt like they had to watch me because all of them, like,
they was a year older than me, two years, you feel me?
So I was the youngest dude and the crew, you feel me?
So they felt like they had to watch me.
So couldn't nobody say they wanted to fight me.
So when they say they want to fight me, just believe 10 more people want to fight you after me.
So I grew up crazy.
Right.
Like, they weren't nobody letting nobody touch me.
Nah.
But did you always know that you were going to have to overreact?
react that you couldn't just be passive and just be on some chill shit you really had to prove yourself
yeah of course because growing up in the fifth ward that's what we call the 50s a fifth war it's
crazy you grow up with your grandpa's granny's own dope and so it's like you've been seeing shit
you feel me that you ain't supposed to see that a kid don't even supposed to see like for real
i didn't see my uncle brady resting peace on the side of the house and all you keep seeing is it
like i never wanted to see that shit but i've seen it though you feel me so
So I knew a lot of stuff over my time like that.
I was way advanced in my time, basically, for sure.
And once I got shot, I really just blew it out the water that it was over with.
Right.
So you just got shot on some ramshut.
You were standing in front of your house or something, you said?
Look, look, this is a real story, no cap.
I was at a girl house on 55th and Broadway.
Shout out of Alexis.
You love you to the day.
I'm at Alexis house.
Back in a day, you had the 730s, the chirps.
Boop, boop.
It was that era.
I had a 7.30.
I left it at her house where my mama can to get me.
So when she picked me up, she said, son, she threw the corn park in the driveway.
She said, God telling me, somebody want to hurt you.
You know what I'm young.
17?
I don't even hear that shit.
Mama, you're tripping, man.
You're on that church shit.
She's like, son, she broke down crying.
Somebody's going to hurt you.
Stay in the house.
I'm like, I stay in the house.
I go for my phone.
I'm like, damn, my phone ain't here.
She's like, I'm going to take you to go get it.
Took me, get my phone.
We jumped out.
She's still lecturing me like,
if you leave this house, something's going to happen.
I said, all right, I go in the house,
my chirp go off.
Boop, boop, boop.
I walk out the door,
hit a few corners.
The next thing you know,
it was over.
I was six shots in me,
and it was over.
And so this is 100%
just because of the air you were in?
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, six shots.
And look how caught the game is.
Now I run to a lady yard
because she had a balcony in front of her yard.
I hit the gate.
Hell.
hell help why when she come down this lady's day right across the street from right grew up with
my mom and all them i know her she know me just because she didn't want you bleeding all over the crib
or no i went on a port and when i fell on the porch that was it i can't move no more i'm my i got
the same line right here i got going down right here the same hospital line got going right here
that's crazy you got that but it's like old as fuck yeah because a lot of you see people with like
relatively new you had it forever yeah this could barely
I see it now.
Yeah, for sure.
That's crazy.
So when she seen me, she's like, oh, my God, this Cassandra son.
Ooh, so her husband told the wife go around there and get to my mama.
She wasn't at home, though, it was on a Friday.
He, like, wasn't nobody there.
So he left a note and left him on the door, and my mama called him.
She called him like, yeah, you left a note on my door tomorrow, Kevin?
Like, yes, he just got shot 20 minutes ago.
The ambulance was taking this.
She's like, where are you at?
They told her the street.
She went over there.
They were like, no.
She was like my brain was going.
All I knew is, where are you get shot at?
So she flew over to the earth seat and it was taped off.
She went to the hospital and she said it was curtains.
I was in a coma for two months.
Wow.
Doctors told her pull it.
She said,
nah,
because they told her to give up on it.
They like just pull up,
because I was on there for a month.
Now they're like,
hey, he's going to be brain dead.
He's not going to know nothing.
You've got to feed him again.
She's like, okay.
And is she like racking up bills at the same time when you're in there too?
She's racking up bills.
You got to think about it.
She worked at a high school.
What's up under the high school?
It's got to be thousands of dollars a day, right?
Thousands.
And she only worked in the cafeteria.
Think about that.
Oh, yeah.
She's a cafeteria lady serving the food.
Yeah, yeah.
Every day that you're in there might be a week or two of work for her.
Think about it.
Now, and I was on Medicare back then.
So she's like, we're going to run this motherfucker up.
And once that get through getting ran up, we got some chili.
Her daddy, my grandpa, he was working at Bowen at the time for like 40 years.
So he's like, he's stupid, loosely-do you fade up with two, three houses.
He's like, we got you, son.
She said the only reason why I didn't do it
I would have felt bad if you would have died
knowing that if I didn't have did it
you would still be in here and I just got to
feed you and do whatever I'm willing to do that
son you're my son
She said I told him no
I mean there's nothing much worse than losing your kid
That part and I'm young too
She said if you're gonna go you gotta go on your own
Yeah
But I'm not pulling that plug and I fought and I made it
Yeah for sure you would give up every last dollar you had
To just try
And then you gotta think about this
all my brother and sister had daddies.
So she felt like I was like the outcast of the kid
because they come in to pick them up.
But then I'm like, what's up with me?
Yeah, what's up with me?
Like, why ain't nobody coming to grab me?
You have memories of that?
That made you feel inferior as a kid?
Yeah.
Like there's something wrong with you?
My daddy brother, Uncle Dee,
my Uncle Dee, rest in peace.
Him and my grandmother, the Jenny Mae.
They came once we did the blood test,
but Uncle Dee was already there before the blood test.
They did the blood test 99.9.
This is your child.
Like, oh, that's the white man tells.
I don't believe in that.
Oh, man.
I remember this shit like it was yesterday.
I probably was like seven years old.
I remember a lot of shit since I was young because I was just paying attention.
Like, the fuck, I see this odd shit going on.
Christina, tiny, daddy come get them.
Corey, daddy, me and him got the same daddy.
That's the cold part about it.
You'll come get this light-skinned boy.
And my mama is not light-skinned or you.
But you come get him before you ever thought about coming getting me, and I'm your twin.
facts that's fucked
think about this though
he had low riders
I'm a lowrider fan
I love lowrider
right to the day I do
I had one
those Mexican dudes can attest
that you love lowriders
yes I was out there
on cringe show and they love me
so I see him one day
and I'm with a gang of my friends
I'm like oh that's my daddy
because I know she said me and Corey
got the same daddy
right man nigga said
I ain't your daddy
fuck me up now they laugh
I fuck me up.
You think that's part of why you got on the streets?
Yeah, a whole part of it.
You're just angry as fuck about that?
Yes.
Yeah.
I was angry than the motherfucker.
I ain't a lot.
I'm forgiving, but I don't forget.
It's one thing to not have a dad.
It's another thing for your actual dad to deny you.
And live right around the corner, though.
Yeah, what the fuck?
And live directly around the corner.
I can hit the gate and end up in his backyard.
Damn.
And you ever talk to him now?
Yeah.
When my uncle Dee died, he tried to cover in my life and stuff.
I let him. I forgive, I don't forget.
But as far as me picking that phone up, I'm calling him.
I'm saying, hey, pops.
And me calling him, pop, like, what's up, James?
Right.
You ever, like, expressed to him how you felt?
Yeah, I did.
I tried to swing on him in everything.
That's the other question.
I was kind of wondering.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and his own brother said,
if y'all don't whip his motherfucking ass,
talk about real-ball brother.
Then my mama brother pulled up.
He looked at my brother, Corey,
said, does he touch your brother?
Y'all better dog walk him up.
50-person figure-rule right there.
Wow.
No cap.
Damn, I hope he sees this and knows how bad he fucked up.
No, for sure.
I think he knows because he tried to call my phones
and I forwarded, hoping that he's sharp enough to know that you've been forward.
I'm not messing with you, but his wife called me, my little brother called me.
I went to his party, you feel me?
But as far as you trying to reach out, you better off telling stepmonds to call or a little bro.
That's one thing me, AD and T.
I've talked about a bunch is just like how important it is for us to just be good dads
and how, like, really, that's the most important thing.
How do you feel about people in your life when you see them being shitty parents and just not respecting the relationship?
I don't respect it, man, because that counts in the kid's life.
You bring a kid into this world, Adams, that counts.
Like, you can't just bring a kid in this world and just think that, nah, bro, you got to be in that kid's like 365, 7 days a week into that kid 18 and even after that.
Because if you don't, that kid's subject to fall into the streets, get killed, and everything.
you better blame yourself for that you got to yeah because i know how i felt like i always wanted
the daddy like just to come pick me up so i know it's fuck my mind in so i know it's messing these
kids up but i could say i could see a lot of people taking care of their kids these days people i
know like really being fathers 365 seven days do you think that the tide is kind of changing in
that regard because that that is that is the bad rap or the i don't know if statistics whatever
that black men get is this that the the family you're
unit rarely survives with the kids or whatever.
I think there is like a higher divorce rate and higher percentages of kids who grow up
without father figures and shit.
I mean,
it's like it's really just on everybody to kind of try to write that wrong because like we
know that that is just the worst thing for a kid to not have a relationship with
their dad.
You can be divorced or whatever.
It is what it is.
Right.
But just still like maintain the relationship.
Yeah.
Be what's they call it?
Co-parent.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
But don't do that kid because you mad at the female or female.
Don't do that dude because you're mad.
That kid ain't got nothing to do with it.
That's when my shit come in.
Like, he blamed me with something whatever.
My mama had going on.
You're taking it out on me.
Wow, yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, that ain't right.
And that a fucking kid up, like, mentally.
Swear to God.
So once you're fully, like, in the streets,
you really, like, making money off that shit?
Or are you just on some straight just hanging with the homies in the neighborhood shit?
I was hanging, but I didn't have to make money because, like, I'm out.
We wasn't no good kids grew up with money,
but I got some of his family in that area where I didn't have to.
I could go, oh, yeah, let me get this, hon.
Boy, hon, here you go, go on and get up out of here.
I choose to do what I was doing when I was out there selling drugs,
like, because I'm tired of accident.
I'm tired having to get a speech from him.
Right.
So I'm going to get this little quarter piece and flip this.
He reeled me, and that's how that became, but I didn't have to at all.
Right.
But you got real deep into that?
Yeah, for sure.
Right.
For sure.
For sure.
I went to jail over it, went to juvenile hall over it.
and all the type of shit.
How do you go to jail for it?
You just get pulled over
to search the car or something?
Nope.
I was walking, going to my Auntie Patrice's house,
get to her house.
She was barbecuing.
Crash unit pulled right up.
Because they seen me serve somebody
across the street at the shopping center.
So they waited to see where I was going.
And once I got in the yard talking to everybody
was barbecue and it came up.
Whoop, pooh.
Grab me and went right toward the sack was at.
I always think about what it would be like to run a drug empire.
I do too, but I'm scared because it's time behind that.
You too, yeah.
I've never been to the pen.
I'd be 35 November.
I've never been to the penitentiary.
I'm a county misdemeanor.
I just always think about how you could do it with such minimal chance of getting caught,
but then it's like you get caught.
You got to get caught.
When you're doing that, you got to go to jail.
And if you don't, I mean, you're telling you working with the peoples or something.
Ain't nobody that sold drugs can't say, I can never went to jail,
you're working with the people, yeah.
You know people in your life, though, that you feel like they're millionaires off selling drugs
and they never had, like, serious legal consequences?
No, because I was taught a spade is a spade, so if you ain't went through none of that,
and you're working with the peoples.
Yeah?
So you just assume that?
Ain't no assuming.
Everybody else getting hit around this motherfucker, but Adam's good, though.
They ain't went to Adam's house, not once.
They had them rolling harder than anybody, though.
Like, okay, we know what the time it is with you.
Yeah, I got to keep my nose clean.
That part.
You got to dance on the water and not get wet.
That part.
Whoa, man.
It was real.
No, that's real
Shout out of Ice Cube
That's real
Did he say that?
Yeah
I could dance underwater
And not get wreck
It's raining bullets
And I'm stealing here
Young Black in a wheelchair
You need a V8
I forgot where I got it
Dude
I've been saying that for years
I forgot that's where I first heard it
Yeah
Come on my 80s baby
I'll take you back
Very
No cap
No cap
No cap
No cap
No I think after
MC Hammer
And Vanilla Ice Ice Ice
Ice Cube was my first CD
Was that right
First rap CD
Shout out to them
Yeah, I'm in the first second grade.
Took me a minute to realize MC Hammer and Vanilize
were doing something different.
Yeah, they changed the game.
Yeah, it was fine, yeah.
But I knew something was different when I heard of Ice Cube and NWA and shit.
I'm like, oh, no, this is it.
Yeah, for sure.
I can't listen to this friendly music radio shit.
Ain't nothing compared to back then when we grew up off of.
Like, I'm not knocking it or nothing like that,
but I really, I was just up here we did the Thursday
or back at the end of the day show.
Tarel is going at it,
talking about this music stuff,
and for 30 minutes,
I'm mad in my head.
They thought I was mad
because Torel asked about my mama
ass or something.
But I really didn't know
what they were talking about.
They named all these rappers.
I'm like, y'all,
my lean now, y'all didn't through me for a loop.
Yeah.
So when the show's over Torel,
like, what's your?
I'm like, bro, I really don't.
He's like, you don't know who do you?
Who's what you don't know?
All of them.
And I listen to rap,
but I know these young shit.
But you know L.A.
You just don't really pay.
Were they talking about shit?
from out of state?
I probably was in state, out of state,
but I ain't heard these dudes.
Like, you gotta say a song to me.
Then I'd be like, oh, that's who that is.
Then you gotta show me a picture of them.
I'm like, I never knew.
I just liked the song.
That's something I think about sometimes.
If you were a rap fan in 1998,
you probably knew about, like, you know, 40 rappers
or some shit.
Now there is, bro, we know hundreds
and hundreds and thousands of rappers.
We might never have heard a song from them.
Would you believe that half of us
right now to the day,
listen to music but never seen the person
or don't know who that person is
if they see them right now but
then when you tell them that's who that is you're going to be like
damn I fuck with that song well that's what TikTok
is a thousand percent
thousand percent yeah because there's so many songs
that are huge on there and the artist is like a nobody
nobody you get what I'm saying so it's like I fuck
with the song but I never knew how his face
looking like because I get hit up to do interviews with dudes who
they got a and it's
that's what's weird TikTok it's not even a whole
song it's like we used to have like
all the Atlanta dudes the snapper
rappers and shit from that soldier boy era where there would be the laughy tuffer and all that type of
bullshit and there was a lot of those songs where it's like the songs were huge and you didn't
really like know the names of the fucking dude but now with tic-tok it's like you know 10 seconds of the
song you never even heard of the two-minute song see how the game change shit did change the game
say the same but the players changed you see how this technology just ha ha ha now you don't even need
no record label or nothing instagram youtube you're gonna get signed the other day i watched the
video about a beef between two rappers and one of them the shit was so savage about all the
beef between him that I was like you know what I'm gonna actually listen to this dude's music
yeah to see what is what it's what you make me want to see what he talking about now you beef
with him so hard let me go see what he's talking about he must be saying some real shit because
like but you want to fucked up is like click on the video and it says no cap versus honeycomb
brazy and I click on it and then I watch the whole fucking video and I realized that no cap
and Honeycone Brazy did have a beef
but Honeycone Brazy somebody went
into his grandparents house and killed
his grandparents and fucking
shot a pipe that burnt the whole house
down. There's got to be some out of town.
It's not no cap. It's not coming
from his click or whatever. Like when you
watch the video they caught the dude
who did it. It's coming from some other shit.
The video title has you thinking
that no cap fucking killed this guy's family.
Right, right. Yeah, they changed the whole
narrative up. Yeah. That's crazy.
Realistically, that is kind of what got me to
click.
And when it was out of town, though, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Down south shit.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's a foul shit.
Fow.
You kill my grandparents.
That's real beef right there.
There's new beef.
That's real beef.
What is life like after that?
You killed my granny.
Pipe bomb and all.
You ever heard of some shit like that?
No, sir.
I'm not going to cap because you know.
I hope that that doesn't ever become normal.
No, I hope it don't.
But I wouldn't be surprised.
Bad enough, there's the whole practicing gang.
are just driving around somebody's neighborhood
to kill somebody just because they live near
somebody that you don't like. I mean, that's fucking foul
enough, but killing grandparents, Jesus Christ.
You know, they do that. People that kill
kids and grandparents, you go to jail. God bless
your heart. You're not going to make
it. Or you got to go PC,
and they still going to poke you. Right.
Damn. Crazy.
So, okay, like,
so you're just in the streets
for all these years.
When shit started to change?
Life started to change when schoolboy Q blows up?
No.
What's before that?
Back then, like, I used to, like, you know, how could I put it?
How could I put it?
I used to be in that dimeagic wine game.
Ah, okay.
Yeah, like deep all the way, deep, deep.
Deep.
To my deep.
I'm still known in the game around the world.
I've been to the biggest parties they throw, like, you know, Cap facts.
So you were into the culture of it.
You're going to the events and the conventions and all that shit the Sharp be doing?
And I was a part of it, though.
I'm really going with my four, five years of me.
They're like, look, a little smacky.
Yeah.
So you're on fig.
Yeah, for sure.
You're back on fig now, but you were on fig then.
I was on figs in the car, sleeping.
Hearing, hearing, horses come by.
You know, I hear the clack, clack, clot, clot.
You think it's some horses, but it's the latter of just.
Hey, me, that's like I said.
I'm in the car.
Why is sleeping in the car?
Because I had to grind it out.
You feel of me?
Like, I'm a young dude, so.
So you got to be on.
on the site while your employees are working.
Not even that.
I didn't have an idea at the time.
You feel me?
To go get a room, you feel me?
I didn't have a car.
The car wasn't even working.
That's how cold I would.
The car wasn't even working.
It was my people's stuff and we're just sleeping in that motherfucker because we're young.
Right.
And we get up, boop.
Let's walk down, fit.
Go to 51.
Do your thing, bootbox.
We're going to link back right here.
Like, it was real.
Like, I did that for years.
Years.
You did well.
doing it. Oh, yeah. What made you get out of it? When Q started rapping and I was out of town
in Oakland doing my name. When you're at your peak though doing that, how many girls you got
working for you? Probably like five and we was catching the greyhound to Arizona. So you just go
hit different towns and just put in work? Yeah. I get the room, boop out, we're all in the room,
boop, send them out. I'm in the room. They know what time he is. They know what to do. So you throw an ad up
and then you got 50 dudes coming through?
That's the thing.
I was a street one.
I was concrete.
I could keep them ass.
I don't hate on them.
But I need mine to touch the concrete.
That's for show, though.
So how you mean your clients?
On the blade.
They walking MacDow, 51st, school in Arizona.
They're doing that.
They got the mouthpiece.
I gave them the game for that.
I don't want to see the client in case the client messing up.
Then that's when they're going to meet me.
And so you're out there with five chicks?
Five chicks for like three months at a time.
I swear to God.
Just grinding every day.
Every day.
You ever get caught up doing this?
Never in my life.
Never, swear to God.
So you're outside with a hammer on you every day doing this shit,
and you never had the cops run up and have to insert you?
That's the thing.
When I was out there pimping,
you got to leave that gangbanger to the side,
so I never have that.
It's just not necessary because you're never going to get,
because the Johns are not on that level.
They're not trying to.
Not even that.
It's just, when you jump into that cane,
you can't mix oil and water.
So when you say you this, you got to be.
This.
You can't come to Figg and be around this right here and say, because they're going to be like,
you got to get away from us.
You feel, me?
And these are people from everywhere because everybody comes from somewhere.
These people from everywhere.
I never knew where they was from.
It's 10 years, 13 years down and long, like, damn, that's an enemy.
But he's so cool, and we never talked about that because we did.
So Figg is just a different world where the gang affiliations don't get mentioned?
Yeah, in that game, yeah.
I mean, you was on 1619 to figure world back then?
Back in the day?
No, it was chinchillas on they had on.
Yeah, police ride by and do you like this.
Hey, no, we come in peace.
I wonder what the lives are like of the people who live there.
Ugly.
Like, what are the housing prices like over there?
Ugly.
I'm on her house over there.
Like, I don't give a fuck how cheap the house is.
If you got all this crazy-ass shit happening in front of my career.
You could walk out your door and see a car just.
Yeah.
Think about with no tent, though.
She's just getting banged out looking at you like,
I mean, I guess if you're like a grandma living over there and you just stay in the crib all day.
Not even the grandmas, they hate it.
They're going to come out with their flashlight.
Yeah, grandma not going to tolerate that.
They're going to let you know.
Yeah, yeah.
If you don't leave up this flash, now, I'm going to go on now or what.
Right.
But they ain't scared.
No, they're going to go to come out fast.
Y'all leave the condoms out here.
Get the fuck from in front of my house.
So who lives over there?
It's just the families and shit or what?
Yeah, basically like.
You got a lot to explain to your kids when you're taking them out there and you got a bitch walking
naked down the street.
That's what I said.
I grew up in a cold environment, man.
Yeah.
Think about that.
I grew up around pimps, gangbangers,
max.
Whatever you can think of,
it's on fig and Uber
all the way to Hardale.
Think about it.
I live a crazy life.
I had to walk the school
and look at prostitutes out there.
You hear me?
Mama said,
put you head this way.
I'm trying to hear me.
I got to tie my shoe.
Right.
That shit turned me on.
I was loving it.
What's the key to Dillon?
with that many wild-ass chicks?
Basically, the key is,
because, you know, that's five different personalities.
You feel me?
Yeah.
Five different personalities.
It's all about manipulation, man.
You just got to have that mouthpiece.
That's what pimping is.
Professional and manipulating people.
P-I-N-P, professional-manipulating people,
not stock into my pockets, or none of that.
So you got to have patience,
and you got to have a mind for this.
Because this game is a thinking game.
You can't nobody just get in the game and say,
I'm a P you could down the grill right now
That don't mean you're a Pimp
Did you watch that episode
Was Sharp and Suspect and Kelby?
Yeah, that should have me darn laughing
What's he doing wrong?
I feel like Kelby's a he's going to be a big force
In the Pimping game
He's got a big future ahead of him
No, I think that hopefully he don't get around the wrong people
That's going to have him crash and burn
And take advantage of them
I hope the cops don't take too much interest in that interview
Because I'm just watching that shit
Not that one actually the softwood underbelly one
I'm watching that just like
bro, why are you on here just telling on yourself?
Like, oh, how come all the gangbangers know not to go on camera and talk about who they shot?
But then a fucking pimp will go on camera and be like, well, I mean, to his credit, Sharp is smart.
Sharp, sharp never.
No, no, he got a mouthpiece on him.
To this day, I don't know what the fuck Sharp is into.
Right.
I don't know.
Like, I just, that's how I'm supposed to be.
I don't ask a lot of questions.
But, you know, I feel like even if I ask very specifically, he's probably not going to really divulge too much.
Whereas that Kelby kid's sitting there telling them, Mark, yeah, these are.
These are my prostitutes.
You've never seen sharp with a girl.
Nah.
Well, I have, but.
No.
Other people don't.
Hey, that's part of the game.
He's sharper than the razor.
Keeps all that shit hidden.
He got to.
You can't let your left hand know what your right hand doing.
But then people think, people are like, I never seen sharp with a girl.
That's good.
That's a blessing.
You don't need to.
But that chili coming through.
Yeah.
You hear me?
That Luttleoufay is coming through.
But that takes confidence.
Because I was always the dude who would be around some hot chicks in the club.
Boom.
We post some Instagram photos.
I ain't fuck these girls.
Right.
But I'm taking a picture of a bunch of hot-ass girls.
That part, you're doing a look.
I'm like getting the reputation for fucking hell of chicks more so than I was actually fucking.
Right.
It's not good.
And you're a cold dude in the game.
Yeah, I did my research.
Just like I did what I said.
You was on plug talk?
I've been on all that's this.
This nigga Adams is a cold individual, boy.
You know, like, I fucks with you.
Doing porn is called?
Yeah, because you're getting your little.
Like, bro, that's like the game.
That's like pampy to me right there.
Like, that's a player shit, dude.
You can fuck who you want to, nigga.
And I got my girl with me.
Yeah, she's going to tag team the bitch with me.
Like, that's the game, nigga,
because I just knocked five on the damn, nigga,
and got through two or three.
It was like, you got to take this finger real.
Yeah, I got you on a rebound.
But, bro, I know some porn star dudes who,
they're like just a dude from L.A. like you, like regular guy.
But him putting in a day of hustling
is him driving around to three, four different chicks cribs,
taking photos doing the tic-ttox doing the instagram stories fucking them getting the clip going home
editing it putting it on only fans all this shit like that's their hustle the same way i'm in here
doing a bunch of fucking interviews right they're driving around dipping and diving up to the valley
downtown boom boom all right let me ask you a question and i love it i love that that's like the
modern crack dealer right now there's still crack dealers but this is a it's a new crack dealer right
right so tell me this i always want to ask somebody and i can ask you because i
I feel you're in that area.
You're in that porn store stuff, right?
Right.
Hey, for them to be dog walking them females like that,
they got to be off something, though,
like some type of medicine they get them to go that long?
A lot of a bar.
It's called what?
A lot of them are.
Oh, okay, a lot of them are.
It got to be like, you go two, three, four hours.
They're just strictly pounding.
Like, you're cold.
What are you off of?
Yeah.
What are you off of, duh?
A lot of them might pop something.
Okay, good show.
And there's wild shit out there.
Let me tell you, my God.
There's like a prick, like a thing,
almost like a little tiny shot that you put into your dick.
I heard that shit turns your dick into a cannon for four or five hours.
I'm not going to shot nothing.
I hate needles.
I hate when they got to draw blood.
But if you ever are watching porn and you're like,
how the fuck is this dude just pounding the shit out of a pussy for a half hour straight like this?
Because I haven't started the same time he's going.
Unless you know, I'm like, ooh.
And next to you know, he's just, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they cold.
Yeah.
And a lot of them are enhanced surgically, I think.
You think so?
Put some juice, some gel in there, make the shit bigger.
Crazy shit, bro.
I don't know, though.
They're all real quiet about it.
Nobody will admit that they do it, really.
Right, right, right, right.
But in the same day, I talked to Rico Strong,
told me about how he tried that one time,
the thing with the prick in his dick and how his dick got way too hard.
It was scary as fuck.
He's on the plane.
No, I don't think he's on a plane
He was just trying to fuck
And like he had this
He shot this shit in his dick
Right
And then I'm talking to a old
As dude who used to be a bank robber
And he uses it too
To just fuck regular
Regular he's going in
But Rico, if you were regular dude
You don't need all that
That's way too much
Yeah, that's out
All right so
Take me to
How Q starts blowing up
Are you watching them grind
For years and years
Without much success
And then one minute
It just starts popping off
Or how does this go?
No
No, I'm gonna keep it all.
You're getting a real inside view of this shit.
I'm giving it to you raw and uncut.
Let's go.
TDE fan pages.
Chop me up.
He grew up playing sports, baseball, football, basketball.
So for me, the line be like, I know he, no, I never knew he was rapping or nothing.
All I know is, nigga, he's trying to take care of my niece's joy.
He's making ends meet.
You feel me?
He's in the streets, you feel me?
He's doing with regular street.
So I'm like, damn, when he started.
I started rapping. It fucked me up because he was already signed to GD GED.
Oh, the GEDA thing.
Yeah, GEDA.
Oh, he was at that first?
Yeah, GD.
It was him, Tiger.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, and some other cats.
So I pulled up on the block one day, like, I'm rapping.
I'm like, ah, that's right.
You know, I'm in the game.
I'm in the game hard.
I pull up 20-folds, Cali, Paine.
I'm beating.
Yeah.
So you're out there like that.
Oh, yeah.
I had every, yeah, that's work.
So I'm like, all right, for show.
So he's doing that.
And the next thing you know, I'm in Oakland,
they're like, hey, you heard this song?
It's a dude to my Hoover this or whatever.
I'm like, no, I ain't heard it.
But I'm used to the collie greens.
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, I'm listening.
Nick, I'm from Hoover Street.
Dirty pictures in my cell phone.
50 seconds through the well-known.
I'm like, no, I don't know who this cat is.
I call him.
Thank you.
Who is this nigga right here, rap?
He said, bitch, that's me.
I said, oh, shit.
Oh shit
Nika, hold up.
Let me go back
and listen to him.
But I listened to him.
I said, this is him.
Because he changed the game.
When he came into the game,
it was black hippies.
He was doing the hole.
You feel me?
So for him to say that,
like that street came out,
you feel me?
And I'm like,
that's what I've been waiting for.
Yeah, talk that shit.
You feel me?
And that's when he called me.
He was like, where are you at?
I'm in Oakland for to come to LA.
He like, pull up on me at the house.
I pulled up on him,
and it was history after that.
He weren't mad at you
for not believing in his dream?
No, because I,
I didn't know nothing about your dream.
I'm going to believe in something if I didn't know about it.
Right.
You go what I'm saying?
Like, how'm going to believe in something if I didn't know about it?
But if I knew, I'm going to support you.
Yeah, you're going to do it.
Just like you supported me when I was in the game.
Like, you got this.
Okay, so where are you formally from?
Because I hear you saying on Paru.
You say on Crip, right?
Mm-hmm.
So you both of those apply.
Nah, okay.
You get deep.
You getting excited about his Hoover bars.
I'm just not sure exactly where you're just fucking with everything.
Nah, that's the thing.
Like, I'm glad you got into that topic.
Okay.
Because when I be like, on Pai, rule, that's for my brother Slim 4, honey.
Like, he was at my house.
I stayed next door to him and, like, we was tight.
We was tighter than ever.
I just did Mud Dollars, his manager podcast.
Shout out him.
I just, I flew to Vegas to do that.
Rest of peace, yeah.
Yeah, so me and him was like this, man.
So, him, man, that shit hurt me.
Like, so when I say, on Pai, Roo, that's to keep my bro name alive.
But, yeah.
You feel me?
As far as the gang, I ain't with that no more.
That used to be back in the day, but it's 5-1 on my.
I'm a 51st street, baby.
Right.
You feel me.
But so Q went a different route.
Yeah.
And was that ever...
He had a daughter.
He had no choice.
It was like, what I'm going to do?
Grow my daughter up on the block, or I'm going to got to figure it out.
He figured out, oh, I can rap.
And went in, started doing it, took it serious, and look where it got him, man.
Right.
So then how much you start moving around with him at that point?
Once I came back.
It was over.
I went to his house.
He was working on the song with, no, it was, I went to the studio with Tiger.
And him, you could tell, by the way, I walked that.
I got it.
Oh, that song.
And Tiger and it was on this.
I'm in the studio with him and shit.
Boom.
And Q, like, popping pills, popping zanis.
I'm busting my moves and shit up in there.
Everybody in there, like, what fuck is this nigga?
He, we love his energy.
He likes my brother, Wool.
And it was over.
He's like, really, I'm doing another album.
It's called Blank Face.
Woo, woo.
I'm like, how you the hype man?
I'm like, let's go.
I'd have been all around the world, triple time.
Right.
So did you actually really get out the streets at that point?
Yeah, it was over because he told me.
You got to either pick that or pick this.
I'm not bringing that life around my kids and stuff like I changed.
Like, bro, I'm not, man.
I'm rapping.
I'm a rapper.
I'm living.
Like, bro, that's my past.
I can't take away my past.
It's my past, though.
I ain't denying where I'm from, you feel me?
But, yeah, I'm on a whole other level.
Old habits die hard though
It's tough to make a clean break
Yeah
So you're coming back home
You're keeping your nose clean
Like even during that time
Yeah I was damn clean
Because I was listening to bro
Like I see what you even got
Like I seen you got the G wagon truck
He pulled up
I was there right when he pulled up
And got the Gwagon truck
He pulled up on me
Oh rollie watch on
Bro I'm like damn this shit real
He's like jump in let's go
And he's just gaming me
Like bro
If you really want to do this
We're gonna do this
I got your back no matter what.
But you're moving around with him.
How are you actually getting money at that time?
Oh, shit.
I was still mixing and dabbing in the game.
You feel me?
Because I kept a girl around me, you hear-a-me.
Basically exactly what you just did not.
Yeah, but, you know what I kept a girl in two-year-oldy me.
Whatever they do, they do.
I ain't got no parts of that.
Hey, me, every part of that.
But, yeah, that.
And, bro, like, you know, every birthday and shit, he was, uh, uh-uh.
But when he dropped his album, you know,
like go get you a passport i did that and he know i ain't got no felonies so he like boom
bop and i went on tour and it was history what was that like for you though seeing just all these
other countries when you haven't really seen had you even seen the united states at that point
are you doing those tours first we did the los angeles tour first yeah so we went to texas he was
oh u.s tour yeah we did the u.s tour what was crazy was that overseas because i see this on
TV.
You feel in me?
Yeah.
You don't see this.
Like, this on TV, all these buildings?
Like, this shit looked crazy
to me. So it blew my mind where I didn't even
want to come back. Like, that's one of my favorite things
is just seeing my friends who get to like experience
France for the first time and just
seeing their reaction to it.
Yeah, just thinking about it.
Hey, imagine what they're thinking in their head though.
I broke down plenty of times on tour and cried.
Like, damn, thank you, God.
Thank you, Q.
Like, bro, we don't
Paris, London.
We're in Russia, China, wherever you could think out of being.
What are you actually doing on the road, though?
Like, how are you making yourself useful and making sure you're a part of this operation?
So my boy MacWop has set up the DJ shit.
Boop, bop, bop.
So, boom, he had people that come out before Q.
And Q, the last little artists that are going to come out because he's the mainstream is his show.
Right.
So, boom, before he come out with MacWap playing the music, I'm already out there turning the crowd up.
I'm on the stage.
They love my energy, you feel me?
Macwop a play a song that he normally go crazy to.
and I go mingle with the crowd crank them up jump on top of the cage ah so when he comes they
ready so I get off the stage like bro he like I seen it they're ready said they're gonna go crazy
I said they're going crazy for me so imagine what they're gonna do for you so that's the vibe we was
going on for you feel me and then when he on stage certain songs I know to come out like on
a tuky nose that was one of the main songs I come out on dope dealer because I was on that song
but are you like the main hype man or does he have another hype man
No, it's me.
You always need a hype man.
Yeah, it's me.
Because you're rapping, so you need somebody else to be really, like, jumping up and down.
Yeah, like, when he gets tired, I got to keep it going, you feel me?
No, it's me.
I'm the only one for them.
Okay.
Fire.
So, like, how much time do you spend in the whole TD unit at that time?
Because is everybody really, like, together as a group at that time when you start coming around?
Yeah.
Because when I came around, it was, that's crazy.
It was around this time.
My birthday, Kendrick dropped that pimp a butterfly, and he had a show somewhere where it was
account just like this.
Q called me, like, he had,
Q just bought that McLaren.
He's like, yeah, you want to go me to Kendry's shit?
I'm like, yeah, let's go.
So I met Dot, you feel me?
I thought Top was security because I knew the
lights getting dude was Kendrick's security,
two T's. I'm like, okay, that's two T's.
But Top right there, I'm like, man,
I'm like, man. He's too many big securities
the whole time. He's a man.
He's too big, you can't be a manager.
Yeah, he's like a shug knight.
He's just big, where he's just like this.
I'm like, yeah, that's security right there.
No, for real, that's got to be a problem, though,
if you're like real successful rich dude but you look like security unless you like dripping in chains
or you like top eight that type you've got to rock like mad versacee fits and shit or else you're just
gonna look like a security guard he's coming with 501 a white shirt with a td e hat on with a tdE
hoodie on with some jortons i swear to god yeah that's like the security guard outfit and that's him
he just because i like wearing like all black i was just like real simple black hoodie black jeans
whatever but you kind of look a security guard i don't really look at security guard i don't really look at security
but if I was with a pussy enough person.
Like when I'm with a chick,
I kind of look like security guy.
Because you got all black on.
But if I'm a, if I'm with a rapper,
I'm not looking like I'm protecting a rapper.
Rappers need different type of security.
Right.
And top of the security size.
He looks like the size security
the school boy Q needs.
Q, Q, got Mingo.
Oh, yeah.
Brick.
You ain't seen Mingo?
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
Ain't nobody running up on Mingo.
No, but like, you know a lot of, like,
man, there's a lot of, like,
celebrities and shit who got pussy-ass little security guards guard in their house and shit.
As a rapper, it's a little different.
Fact.
Yeah.
A lot of places out there.
You go to an old folks home?
They're going to have an old folk security guard.
Because what the fuck are they protected against?
With a 357 on them.
Maybe.
Blow you back.
All right.
So, but, all right, so everybody was still like a real unit through that whole time period.
When does it start to feel like everybody's kind of going their separate ways?
Because I feel like everybody, like, everybody's becoming such big solo artists and shit
that they're so focused on their own shit that everybody kind of got to start being more separate, right?
Not really, but like, if somebody do want to leave, like, it's all love.
It's called growth.
That's what we're not going to be or at each other forever.
Eventually, and you don't want to do this, you might want to start a clothing store.
And like, I'm through rapping.
I want to start a clothing store.
So you can't leave or you want to know.
Like, so we support everybody.
You feel me?
everybody like we're not tripping like you feel me i just was at my boy kendry he sold out four shows
yeah at the uh the strong what they call that new one down down oh i forget but i know what you're
talking about yeah it's four sold out four back-to-back when you came out here yes and i didn't know
i went to the last two me the homies we all was up there like we support
it ain't no and it ain't no beef because i know a lot of people's like oh you're kendrick
love is it probably no we talked to kendry every day kendik talked to yeah i see a lot of
conspiracy theories would be like look at how
Kendrick's music is leaking
it's TDE trying to get at him
by leaking shit that's all that's all
just like I said that's all
what they call them it? Then people trolls
that's all trolls that's it
you're all me and it's up to you if you believe it
because they make it sound good but
right nah yeah because I never seen any of that shit
make it past like a random Twitter account
I never seen anybody
repeating that shit who had much clout
but maybe I'll hear about it now
but okay so from your but could you have ever seen kendrick eventually decided they wanted to do his own thing
yeah i could see everybody all of us we're not gonna want to do the same thing like right now look
i got the hype man thing going and now i'm in this podcast and like and i love it i love this podcasting like
who never thought i could really see hearing people want to hear me conversate and they like what
i'm conversating about yeah it's called growth right yeah like come on any growth man yeah for sure
Or what do you say to the fans who thought that they were going to see TDE stay together forever
and they feel kind of heartbroken about it?
The one thing you can't say, though, is that TDE is like a fucking vault.
You don't get any fucking information.
Fans are kind of just in the dark.
They don't know about anything going on behind the scenes.
You are being similarly vault-ish.
Like, what I can say for the fans is, man, it's growth, man.
You feel me?
I know you expect us all to still be together.
We expect our moms and daddies to be together for life, but it's not going to happen.
And eventually we're going to grow.
You want to do this.
This person I don't want to.
Everybody's there.
We don't want to wrap no one.
We're going to start a business now.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just gross, man.
But you ever had that conversation about how important it is, like, to as a unit not to put your drama out there or not to, like, have anything shit publicly?
Our business is not everybody's business.
Just like Adam business is not everybody business.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, the business just takes on a life of its own and becomes a whole different thing where say Q and Kendrick yelled at each other.
one time in the studio for 10 minutes.
I mean, if there's a video and it's on fucking TMZ...
They're going to say all they're going to put the narrative so crazy.
Yeah.
God damn.
Yeah, that's just...
Whereas if you just do that in isolation and then life goes on and you forget about it,
it's not that, you know?
Literally, if there was that video, that might be like the biggest thing that happened in hip-hop
that year.
Right.
Once you reach a certain level of celebrity, you've got to be real careful what you're putting
out there.
For sure.
That's facts.
That's facts.
That's facts.
That's facts.
No, care.
We're good.
We good.
How do you view Q
like going long-ass periods of time
without releasing music?
And Kendrick's like the same way
and really everybody in TDE.
Yeah, it's like this.
It's like this with us.
Okay, say Q,
drop my album,
and then won't drop for two, three years, right?
Y'all got to remember.
When he do drop, he's giving you bangers.
When dot drop, he's giving you bangers.
But people got lives outside of rapping.
People got kids.
You feel me?
People got all type of real-life problems.
going on that the world don't know about or can't know about because all our business ain't
they're doing it. So whatever their reason is for taking a break, best believe when they come
back is curtains cancel Christmas. But I think it's just surprising to a lot of people when they
don't get music for like four or five years when they know that Kendrick is probably
realistically in the studio multiple times per week. I don't know how much you records, but he's probably
in there all the time. Same thing with Q, whatever. And, you know, for somebody like me, like you see me
going into work and just doing podcasts
and releasing them as they're coming out
but with like a lot of these TD guys
it's like damn did you seriously
just record for five years
to make this fucking album like
what happened behind the scenes
like for five fucking years like
how much did this album change over the years
like it's just it is hard for me
as somebody who is not up
close and personal to the creative process to
understand especially because most people I know
who make music pretty much like just make music
release it within like six months.
Mm-hmm.
Well, sure.
But I'm not around artists with the career of Kendrick or K.
And then you've got to think about it.
Kendrick and Kew is rich.
They got money.
Like, they're not hurting, but it's like, we got families.
We got real-life stuff.
We're going through.
But everybody got families and they still go to work every day.
Yeah, but they're going to work.
But when they bring their work and come in and then you press play, you like this.
It's just hard.
I bet you everybody, when he dropped his albums and they drop everybody,
forget about all that five years.
they in here like this.
Like, oh, this okay, yeah.
What are you?
Hypothetical question.
Do you think that if Q and Kendrick had dropped once a year,
every year since they came out,
just the best songs that they made that year every year,
what do you think their careers would be like at this point?
You think they would have a bunch of okay projects?
Or do you think that?
Everybody.
It's like a wobbler.
Everybody.
Some projects are going to be fire.
Some going to be mid.
Some going to be trash.
that you'll probably never hear.
It's just, that's the game, you feel me?
But, yeah, they would have ups and downs like roller coasters, like everybody else.
It's just weird.
Think about if you have five Kendrick albums instead of one Kendrick album
that showed each year of his life throughout that.
And do you think the fans would have been happier with that?
Ultimately, obviously, it's his decision.
But I'm like the fans, too.
Like, I'd be ready to go on tour every other year.
I'm ready to go.
Right.
So I feel y'all.
I'm with your fans.
Like, man, I'm ready to go on tour and turn it up.
But if you're Kendrick, it's like you get to tour exactly as much as you feel like
But you got to think about Kendrick, when he do tours, he's selling out arenas.
He's not doing no Hollywood.
Like, everything he touched is arenas.
Let's get that.
And that's arenas.
Everywhere he touched, he's not doing nothing little.
Ain't nothing.
Nah, arenas.
He's getting that Lutte Lufei.
That's what I'm saying.
He's getting that chilly.
I ain't going to cap.
Right.
But, okay, when you see people making YouTube videos talking about, like, the downfall of T.
what do you think
do you think that there's any truth to that or you think
that it's still going strong and there's going to be
like another resurgence because obviously losing
Kendrick is like a pretty big blow
to a label right? Yeah, no
it's not no no no no
please tell me I don't break that down how
is that a big blow like
well he's one of the bestselling
artists currently as far as losing him as
oh he's not under TDE no more
like okay like everybody
go through shit we hurt though
but it's like bro he got to grow he got to
to do him. Like he can't, we all ain't going to be with TDE for death.
Right.
That's like the world want to see. They want to see TDE for death.
You feel me? Like when you want to see NWA for death.
But when you review the strength or status of TDE and Kendrick is no longer officially
releasing music under TDE, you got to be like, okay.
They just thinking to her.
If Lil Baby left QC, you would have to say, okay, QC took a hit.
His fart.
See, where does QC go from here?
You're saying as far as money-wise?
Money, clout, respect, whatever, all the things that come with having one of the biggest artists in the world on your label.
And obviously they got plenty of other shit going on.
Different strokes with different folks, but ain't nobody hurt, ain't nobody happy, ain't nobody sad.
It's like, it's gross.
Look who top is.
That's top.
Right.
Look where you got.
J-Rock, Grammy-nominated winning motherfucker.
Right.
You feel what I mean?
You'd be golfing with you?
Yeah.
I'd be going to off and when I just did a golf thing with him just like the last month sometime.
How do you get into that?
That right there is crazy.
You asked that because when I went to his house, you feel me, it was him and Barack.
They like, yeah.
Barack Obama?
No, Barack.
That's one of our peoples.
Oh.
I probably should have assumed that.
Yeah, no, I danced.
You probably would have said Obama.
No, Obama daughter was at the Kendrick show, though.
Really?
Yeah, she danced with me and everything.
I feel like they're real careful about what they let her do.
Remember when one of the fucking Joey Badass, one of his own.
was like on facetime with
Barack's daughter one time
rocking a shirt or some shit
I didn't hear about that I'm gonna.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's got to be a lot of pressure.
Yeah.
But, uh, yeah, yeah.
Hey, Adams, I love he's that.
Well, we just start talking about
what it would be like to be Obama's daughter.
Man.
All right, where were we out, though?
I don't know because I'm fucking with you.
No, because he's kicking with Barack.
Yeah.
Who's with Barack?
No, Q was with Barack and Q had just had bought
that Mayback.
at the time it was that year made back and everything.
And I'm like, yeah, we got golf things in the back seat.
Right.
So we went out there, you feel me?
And basically, like, that gives him a peace of mind.
When he go there, he just stress free.
Because, like I said, everybody, we're human.
Some things that I do that get my mind right is doing other shit, you feel me?
But that gets his mind right.
So you go out there and you play?
No, I just like to hit it and see how far I can make the ball.
I can't.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, because it got numbers on it and you can hit it.
I can never in a million years imagine going out there and having to actually get that little ball into a hole that's like 500 feet away.
Yeah.
Like, no.
I'm not going to, I can't do that.
I'm going to have to hit it like 30 times.
And it's like a mind thing and it's quiet out there.
You don't hear it.
It's quiet.
I'm talking about it.
I'm like, man, there's a lot of people.
Let me keep my mouth shut.
I know I'm a loud mouth from the ghetto.
You feel?
But he's doing like golf media and like.
golf sponsorship type shit yeah that's what we just came from he performed up there
that's crazy top golf we just came from top golf he performed up there and everything
I mean that's like if you're famous you could just take on an interest and then just like
get a bunch of business related to that interest you know yeah if you just became mad good at chess
all of a sudden you're none I do but not like good that's hard I don't know how to no that's too
much. But I mean, like, if a rapper, if little baby just got real good at chess, all of a sudden
they're going to be paying them 100 grand to go perform at a chess tournament.
Look at a grizzly. You see how much you just said he made playing a video game and showed
the people like, yeah, ain't. That was crazy. But what he's doing is like not that different
from like OnlyFans or whatever because he's just got a shitload of people paying him, I assume,
a small amount. Why can't play the game? No, but they can be in it. They're like in the game.
like they can play against him and his homies i think they're all in gta together i think
but it's like i think it's like five or ten bucks or some shit like that so it's like the same
way that all these girls are getting rich t grizzly's like figuring out how to do that as a
dude the same way as when you see you guys or ad or whatever on twitch and youtube and you go
subscriptions and all that it's kind of like same shit but it's crazy that he's doing it in the
gta gta world right that's what's cold and i'm like i'm like i need to start playing video games
again. Because then when I think about what everybody
talks about with the metaverse, I'm going to build
the metaverse. And I'm like, well, GTA
is just a bunch of motherfuckers who can hear
each other talk. They're running around in this
world playing with each other
and just living their life and talking to each other
and doing these make-believe missions and whatever.
I mean, how is that not the metaverse?
It's basically the same fucking thing, right?
Same fucking thing. Like, I was into Call of Duty.
I was into that. I had the whole set thing.
I'm going to line on PlayStation.
Right. Like, I know they get caught up in that shit because
I did. You know, I think I've been on here
saying that I think that like long-term games like GTA probably cause people to be more
violent. But I actually saw a study that said that when GTA does come out, that violence
drops and murders drop because everybody's just in the crib playing it.
What world is that?
Like America? What?
That can't be. Yeah, them people that's in the house playing it is computer geese that don't
come outside anyway.
No, but look, like somebody like you, you play right?
I play Call of Duty and I stopped after that.
I had every call of duty, but that's tough just that.
It's kind of depressing to think, though, that the more people play video games and are in the crib and watch Netflix and shit, the less that they're going to be killing each other.
So it's like if those are the two options that we're offering is like be in the crib playing video games or go out in public and get murdered.
I'm going to play video games.
Yeah.
I bless your heart.
I'm going to be on Call of Duty.
Kind of sad, though.
I just like spent so much of my life outside.
Yeah.
It's kind of sad that like the lesson we've learned is like, don't go outside.
Do you know, Tereo told me, did you have, what's his name with the red hair, the rapper dude?
Mario Judah.
He threw a party at your store down there one day.
And y'all lying, this one T.Rill had last Kings.
It was the last king's door.
I don't think, no, we didn't do a Mario Judah pop up, though.
There was something you threw a party.
Who's another red hair rapper?
Famous Ducks?
No, the black dude.
I'm talking about with the red hair.
What's his name?
Trippy Red.
Think so.
Black and mug.
But I don't think we didn't.
an event with him, did he was
down there or something? He probably had a little party.
He was there or something. He was there a bunch.
Yes. And I walked down there
just on some nosy stuff because I was tired of
being right there at the last kid's
door walking back and forth to the gas station.
I walked past him and came up
in there and seen all the little boys
and just walked out. And then he told me, remember
when I told you who was going on
down there with the rapper? I'm like, yeah, he's like, that was
Adams. I'm like, whoa. I've thought
about that a bunch. Because there was that
time that T. Rell has brought up on the podcast
got multiple times where he basically came over the store, said what up to me, introduced himself,
said that he owned the Last Kings or whatever, and I'm just like, cool, he gives me his number.
He mentioned the interview, our comments and blow him off.
And I think about that from his perspective as a lifelong L.A. dude, right?
And he's got a store right here on this block.
That, like, two blocks over, there's this white guy that where the fuck did he come from,
who got this super poppin YouTube thing?
And it's like, Last Kings, yeah, they had social media.
and everything but I feel like it kind of didn't blow up because of social media it blew up because
rappers were rocking it and that was like the way to get shit popping at that time like the only way
and like yeah that must have been kind of odd for T-rell to just be looking at B just thinking like so this is
the guy that you're telling me that I'm supposed to give a fuck about that's funny all right small world
small world yeah um but okay so how how do you know T-Roe when you meet T-Roe born and raised with T-Rill
We both grew up on fixed, like, Torel stayed on 506 at his own house at 19 years old.
Terrell had his own house cashed out of 19 years old.
He always says that, yeah.
Swear to God, no cap.
How do you have money for that?
You got to ask him.
You got to ask him, but I could say he always kept a job and working that railroad track was paying money.
Yeah, Tareel worked the railroad track.
I said it on the end of the day, too.
He's like, bitch, why you tell him I'm being?
Like, no, he worked that railroad track, and he was getting cheap.
chili from there.
Sure.
So he always been a hustler.
He always had a job or something, but as far as I know, he had a J-O-B with show.
Right.
Yeah, that's one thing that I always say with T-Roe, is like, one day we need to have an off-camera
conversation about everything you did early in your life.
I want to know about all the grimy shit that you can't say on camera.
Because A.D. always hyping him up.
Wack, hyping him up.
Oh, T.
He crazy.
He was protecting Tiger.
No, no, I'm going to let you know.
But nobody ever told me what?
Like, what do you do?
I believe him.
But I just, I need details, man.
Basically, shit, Tiger was blessed to get a real nigga at that time around him.
That's really street credible in the streets and really live where he say he lives.
But then I've seen the video of him harassing Frank Ocean.
Frank Ocean.
And I'm like, oh, it goes down.
The YouTuber that ran up on his wife?
No, that's Jidion.
Oh, okay.
Frank Ocean is the motherfucker from, well, he's from Odd Future originally.
And he's a singer.
You don't know who Frank Ocean is?
That's what I'm telling you.
No, I bet you if you say a song, I'm going to be like, oh, that's who that is?
But I don't know him.
I don't know a lot about, like, Frank Ocean, I'm not like a huge fan.
I don't know that much about him, but he's like insanely famous.
He's huge.
Yeah.
But there's an old video of T.
Harassing him in traffic and chasing him down and screaming on him.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
See, now look.
I seen that when y'all talked about it and did the clips or something here.
I went on World Star and seen it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Or YouTube, I forget.
That was funny.
I seen that.
I seen that.
That's right when his arm got messed up, too.
Right around that time?
Right around time.
I think his arm was messed up around the time when he was chasing that dude.
Damn.
That's crazy.
I lived with him.
T.
Yeah, and the mansion in Compton.
When that shit happened with the arm?
No, no, no, no, no.
This was way before that.
I live with him.
He had a three-story house that go upstairs all the way up, up, up.
Damn.
With every hot car, car on 30s.
He got that Tahoe truck on 30s.
Camaro with the Yankee symbols all through it.
Yeah.
Did you stop hanging out with him for a while when he became like family man T-rail?
And then you kind of reunite doing content at some point?
No, we've been around each other since kids and never left a part of each other.
I always give him shit that he had, he entered this.
chapter of his life post-Tiger where he was just
Sorella, family,
not hanging out with the homies.
He hasn't done much to refute that.
No, it's just that when you come a family man,
your whole life is not about you no more.
Oh, I feel it.
I don't hang out with nobody.
I come here and I go home and I spend time with family.
As bad as he wants to and come out,
but he's like, I've got kids now, so it ain't about me.
It's about them.
Yeah.
That's it.
But, you know, that's part of the game.
Yeah.
Definitely.
No cap.
How do you feel about this content shit?
I fucks with it, but it's got to be the right content.
Like, you feel me?
I'm going to tell you, I come in peace.
I don't got a problem with nobody.
I don't care where they're from, with color.
I don't got a problem with.
I love everybody, you feel me?
So I really don't got no enemies or nothing,
but I don't fuck with bad content.
Like, I'm not going to speak on you, or speak on you,
I'm not even going to comment on you
because I might fuck with both of y'all.
So why would I, like, that'd just be me.
I just like to come at peace.
I'd rather people don't even put me in it because all my content is dancing,
having fun.
So you're not into the beef content?
I don't support it and I hate it.
So the clip that was on pun stream of you screaming on the chick,
that's not good from your perspective?
You're trying to avoid that?
I was protecting myself.
Right.
I felt like I was in the quarter because I didn't do little row.
Right.
Put the video on and said, oh, look, we laugh.
And I'm like, yeah, look at his outfit.
She told him, hi, how are your pockets,
look. Yeah, see that, I'm real, that was weird.
I'm like, is that all you're doing is laughing at the fact that he gained Wade and he's
wearing a goofy outfit, right?
That was, it wasn't even a wait. I was laughing at his outfit.
Right.
Like, I don't know if she probably thought I was laughing at his weight.
That's why she got mad?
Did she grow up with party next door or something?
Because why is she so passionate about this?
That's what I was thinking too, yeah.
So I sat back and realized, like, she really trying to go in.
I ain't had no choice but to defend myself.
But like I said the whole time, African Queen, I come in peace.
Yeah.
If anybody seems, I'm going to peace.
So for you to still try to poke the bear, what the bear going to do?
It's going to have to fight back.
You haven't followed up with her about that?
Yep, right here.
How'd that go?
Good, good.
It was really good.
She was chill?
Yeah, she's like, oh, I was loaded.
I'm like, shit, I was loaded too.
She was loaded?
Yeah, like she, we was all drinking, you feel?
I'm like, I was loaded too, but I forgive you.
I come in peace, like I said.
Right.
I don't mean no harm.
So if that was your family members, she's like, no.
I thought you was talking about this about him.
I said, I don't know it from a can of pain.
I just was judging the outfit, and you threw a nutty and her friend even said, like,
you was tripping, girl.
Like, that dude was cool that whole night.
Like, he had everybody laughing.
Then for her to flip the script on me, they, like, fucks me up.
Right.
Did I disrespect her or something?
But she's cool, though.
You guys are falling for the pun.
Yeah, I've had to figure.
The puns to gate her.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
They could fall for it.
I fell for it.
Shot got, too.
Look, I fell for it this one time.
Everybody's just smartening up.
I'm like, damn, I'm walking into the lion's den here.
I just know I can't comment or say nothing about it.
I'm just going to get in there and bust my moves on the camera.
Ha, ha, yeah, really talking about shit.
They won't get me no more.
Right.
Yeah, I won't, you can't ask me to react on nothing because it might be their cousin
up here.
They might not like my reaction.
Oh, so after that party next door thing, you're going to get a lot more careful
with what you talk about on camera?
Please don't have that be the lesson you take from this.
No, no, when I say that is like, how can I put it in content?
Because it is, it's complicated for like...
That just really woke my game up.
Like, she really got mad over somebody.
She never probably met in her life.
And I know I come in peace.
I still don't get why she got mad.
That was very confusing.
I look like this.
Anybody that say, oh, F, S.S. Mac, woo, who,
it's something wrong with you because S.Mack don't bother nobody.
I don't walk around like I'm some big, bad, tough, Billy.
I come in peace.
You feel me?
I just want everybody to be happy.
That's it.
We're going to turn up.
Have a good time.
Smoke us some weed.
Have some drinks.
I'm going to have you laughing all day.
So how could you be mad at me?
I'm not disrespecting nobody.
So that just fucked me up.
But I learned in this YouTube game, you feel me?
You can't beat the comments and anything might happen at the time.
You just got to know how to control the scene.
But it is, there's an additional layer of weirdness talking about shit online for guys like
you and T-Rell and AD, right, who are really from somewhere.
Or it's like, you're a YouTuber, you want to just react honestly to shit.
But there's a lot of shit that you could say that might get you in trouble or
makes shit complicated for you.
All I can do is just get my opinion on it,
but it's certain stuff I won't get my opinion.
I tell the person,
I ain't got no comment on that because it's not my business.
But if I could break something down
and tell you like, oh, okay,
but yeah, but as far as like, nah, hell no,
I look at it, I'm giving a youngsters game.
You feel me?
I'm giving them a cold story, so hopefully
you ain't got to go through what I go through.
You could choose something better and do something better.
You feel me?
My story ain't no.
Oh, go do this, go do that.
My story is, nigg, learn from me.
I've been there.
done that it ain't worth it go this way go that route what you do you play basketball go play ball
what you're right here for what you do you play soccer go play soccer what you right here for like i
motivate the youth like that's it i motivate them for sure so what are you focused on in your life
at this point right now in my life i'm really just focused on family and really trying to blow up
with this youtube shit because i fell in love with it i'm not going to lie like i could sit on the camera
for four, five hours, when it's on live, talk shit, swallows spit, you feel
me?
I can do an interview and the dude that's interview and we're just going to be chopping real
game.
We're going to forgot we on cameras.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
Right.
Like, I'm fucking with this, so I got the hype man stuff like then.
Now, this is where I'm going to be.
Right.
Damn.
And I feel like I fix it.
Yeah, definitely.
The people fuck with you.
For sure.
They love you.
I was looking at the first time I came on your show, it already had hit, like, down there
100 and something k i go back to rappers and i ain't gonna speak on their name like i said i come at peace
they've been there a week two weeks three weeks they numbers they never compared to my i said
oh i see something like yeah like that's shit because i go off numbers i'm a number dude i think
a lot of rappers have that moment where they realize that they can make a vlog or like a video
talking about some shit and it would get more views than they would get from a music video that
might cost them five or ten grand to make that's a moment for a lot of rappers where they're like
sure oh
All right.
For sure.
Facts, no cat.
I don't know.
Can all the rappers be YouTubers?
Do you feel like you kind of?
No, because it's like this.
You forfeit.
Everybody's not cut for that camera to just be on them.
They got to come up with legendary lies and whatever to keep it going.
But when it's natural, like me, you is natural.
We're just collating.
Right.
You feel, me?
Lofts are taking shit?
It's natural.
But if you want to be taken serious as a rapper,
you need an element of mystery and you have to be.
build up a lot of desire to hear what you have to say.
That's why I think when somebody like Kendrick drops an album,
that's really like why people are showing up in droves to hear him
is because he has that mystery element to him.
You barely ever get to hear what the fuck he's up to.
And then when he does pop out,
it really makes an impression on you.
And I think that that's just like extremely important to who he is.
And when he dropped,
like he's talking about real life stuff where everybody,
you're like, damn, like I can relate to that.
Right.
Sure, I can relate to that.
So that dude is like a shining star.
It's the sky is a limit for him.
You think he could be,
do you think Kendrick would be big
if he was a, if he was a vlogger?
He was just putting out videos
of him hanging out around the house with the kids and the wife.
Yeah, because his personality is just like us,
like me, Q.
Like when we in the lab, I don't look at him as Kendrick.
Q is not cute.
Them is regular and we just have fun.
Like, we're going up.
You think Beyonce would be Beyonce
if she was just on her Instagram story.
Like, hey, how y'all doing?
I think you've become Beyonce when you deprive,
like you make them love you,
and then you deprive them of yourself
so much that every time they get a little bit of you,
they just have to go all over it.
Right.
That's true.
I don't know.
It's the scarcity game.
Different strokes for different folks.
Because a lot of rappers do the opposite.
A lot of rappers, they get some element of fame,
whatever, you could sell a feature for five grand,
we're doing five million fucking features for five grand.
You get your name blown out real quick.
People don't really want to hear from you at a certain point
because there's no scarcity built up.
You know?
I look at this game right here is so crazy.
I ain't going to lie, Adams,
because back in the day,
it was a lot of stuff going on,
but this era right now,
I don't blame no rapper, no singer,
if you never see them in the world
because look what's going on.
I don't blame me.
I'm dropping music from the house.
house, I ain't coming outside.
Like, for what? Look, look what's going on.
Look what just happened to the takeoff.
Rest and peace to him. Like, look what happened to
B&B. Look what happened to,
what's the name? Out of town.
Dolf.
Like, think about the list goes on.
Like, I only got to say the list
goes on. Like, bro, I'm scared
to come outside. Like, bro, this is what's
going on? Like, bro,
back in the days and they just going to fight you,
take your jury and get on. These nicks
taking your life, so.
It sucks, Tommy.
So what?
You think the rappers are wise to just really stay away from all the shit?
Because sometimes I think that's what I need to be doing in my life.
I need to be going all these pop-ups and events and clubs.
No, because it ain't what you do is how you do.
The energy you put it in and the energy you get out.
You feel me?
So just do it smarter, take security, be sharp.
You don't think you're going to go with your homies and they got your back.
No, no, no, they got your back.
When them shots ring out,
who got your back, nigga.
Everybody's running.
Everybody.
Ain't nobody trying to get shot.
The people that's doing what they're doing, they're doing them, boom, boom.
Everybody else is running.
Right.
Bullets ain't got no name on it.
And I don't go places where I think it's going to be dangerous or none of that.
So you don't put yourself in that, you know?
So you don't go back to the neighborhood or anything?
Yeah.
You do?
Yeah.
But I know how to move.
You feel?
You know, just standing out, posted on the corner.
No, not going on the backyard, boo.
Go through the back doors.
You feel me?
Anywhere I go, I'm going into the back door.
Any house I pull up.
The back door?
Yeah.
We got driveways that go all the way.
Oh, so like the back alley?
No, it's not alley.
It's a backyard.
When you turn into the yard, go all the way back.
You're between a house and a house now.
You open that gate up, go back there, close that gate, and walk on to the porch.
What do you got to do back there?
Nothing.
I got dogs and shit back there when I'm back there.
I'm playing with the pit bull.
You scared of pit bulls?
No, I've been loving them since a kid.
They're having them since the kid.
A lot of people who think they should be outlawed.
Yeah, but like I said, what you're putting the games to get out of it.
If you raise your dog to be on that type of level, my dog is all family dogs, so you feel me?
You don't raise it to be a beast?
Nah, if I do that, I'd rather go pay that chili and get it done a professional way where to be like Q did his dog.
He'll a stranger.
You say stranger and you're not by Q?
you're getting your ass bit up.
When they hear strangers, oh, his dog, do a lap around the mansion,
come back, look at you, take off again.
Right.
He'd say another word.
I can't think of the word, but then he'd say the other word,
and then the dog like this right here in front of his face.
I'm going to do it the legit way, but nah, I never raised them to be mean.
So what's your advice to a young kid in this day and age who's coming up in Los Angeles
wants to make something out of themselves,
but they, you know, are in the same place that you're in,
where it's like you're kind of in danger,
and there's a lot of temptation for you to join whatever.
I mean, like, how would you instruct that kid if you knew them these days?
You want them to stay safe and you want them to protect themselves.
Right.
I'm going to just tell them like this, man, you feel me?
Do what you do.
Whatever you do and you believe in that, you play football, basketball,
just take it serious and it's going to get you out of there.
It's going to be ups and downs like a roller coaster in life no matter what,
whether you're famous, rich.
It's ups and downs.
You feel me?
And I mean by that, everybody got a problem.
You feel me?
It's just that we got them a little harder because we subject don't make it to see 1514.
Just find a sport or rap or drawing whatever and just keep your mind on that and stay away from all the negativity, man.
Right.
You feel me?
Do you think that do you classify all gang shit under negativity when you think about how you would talk about it to a young kid?
Yeah, I don't want you to the gang man.
That's negative than the motherfucker.
You either going to be dead or in jail doing.
on life. You hear me?
It's over with. Cance of Christmas. Right.
Ain't nothing good in it. But you still love it?
No, I don't love it. I love where I'm from.
Right.
I love my community.
But as far as like, oh, no, because if I knew what I knew now, I wouldn't have did this.
But we can't do a change in life and turn around with you. Maybe he made your bed.
That's how you got to lay in it. So I laid in my bed already.
Right.
And I don't regret nothing I did either. And like I just was telling my cousin.
I said, when I died, they say we're supposed to come back.
But especially when you're talking about L.A. rapper, the pressure to affiliate yourself is immense.
Think about it, bro.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Right.
I'm just, man, just find something positive other than game.
Yeah.
Bottom line.
Don't look at that.
That's, yeah.
That's, nah, nah, hell not.
Because look at the assumption in what I even just said is that you can't be a rapper in L.A.
And not be affiliated with a game.
But the reality is that nobody gives a fuck about.
Tyler the Creator being one of the biggest rappers in the world from the LA area.
Nobody, because he don't put out violent or negative energy.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
He's fuck with Q like this.
He's good people.
Tyler Creator.
I've been in shows.
Thank you.
Be you.
That's why me.
All I know has to be me.
That's why everybody love me.
We love your vibe.
We love your energy.
I know how to be me.
I can't fake it.
If you come from some other city,
oh, come out here and join a gang.
Because now your whole credibility is like me as an L.A.
dude looking at you like yeah they fin of milk you for everything you you you want to those you feel
me come out here and be you hey man i'm for wooed-d-wooo-woo don't get involved in that game
or that's shame on you whatever the fuck happened this ain't nothing you want to play with they
come out here and play with this ain't nothing you want to play with at all and i'm gonna tell you
I'm gonna live in testimony nine shots it's nothing you want to play with
if i knew what i knew now i'd really be better living for real for real you got a girl
Yeah.
For how long?
Six years.
Six years.
Okay.
Same.
Mm-hmm.
So you locked in?
Yeah.
Like a month.
You got kids?
No.
Planning on it?
When the time is right, I always, I was raised.
Like, so, like, I was telling you, my daddy never took care of me.
So I want to do the best.
And I want my kid to have the best.
I don't want to have to struggle and be like, I got to figure it out.
When that kid coming to world, it got a million diapers, million this, its own room.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I don't want to be one of the best.
Yeah.
I don't want to be one.
one of those because I know that feeling
how my mama has to struggle and make
ends meet to feed five kids.
Now, I want to be right for sure. At least a house,
two cars. You got one,
I got one. We're living good.
We ain't got to worry about it. I know we set for life.
We got money coming in for life.
Now let's do something. But
until then, it's when God wanted to happen.
I mean, you could pump a baby out at 50.
That part. It's just the girl you got to worry about.
I ain't worry about it. I'm going to be blessed with whatever.
Boy, girl.
want to have twins so I can not kill two birds in one stone.
It is very efficient, yeah.
Raised two of them at the same time, bro, like,
haven't had one kid, oh, man, I cannot imagine having to raise two of them at the same time.
Holy shit.
You kill it two birds at one stone?
Yeah, but then you just cram so much baby making into a short period of time.
That's very efficient.
That's when I'll come.
Okay, you're going to keep that one because she like you more and she like me and he like me more.
We're going to hide.
We're going to work it out.
Because I'm going to be real.
Having a kid is kind of like.
a job.
And having twins, like the pregnancy part,
it's like you have two jobs at the exact same time.
I feel sorry for her.
Got to push them out.
Is that C-section or regular?
Either way.
God damn.
Yeah.
But yeah, I want some kids up.
For sure.
Eventually, though, I just want to make sure I'm stable and right.
That's it.
For sure.
All right.
What else we need to know?
Whatever you want to know.
Shit, back on Fing on Friday or to be.
I got the podcast going with
Terrell, that's going lovely.
That's doing numbers.
Shout out Terrell.
That's doing numbers.
Up in the crib.
Doing numbers.
Heather in the corner.
What?
Oh, y'all love her heart.
I've been knowing her since she met him.
You feel me?
Like, that's sis.
Hey, they loving him.
They should have had you in the Simpsons thing.
Nah, no.
That ain't finished.
Who I'm going to be?
Lenny.
No, no.
Just like one of Homer's friends.
Yeah.
I'm going to be the dude at the bar, huh?
Serving the drinks.
No, I went landing because you're skinny, but, yeah, you could be Barney for sure.
Let me lit, drunk as fuck.
Oh, shit.
Damn.
Chief Wiggum?
For sure.
Yeah?
If you dressed up like Chief Wiggum?
Oh, man.
Didn't get to go.
I mean, could you even rock a fake cop costume, or is that kind of against your religion?
No, I could rock it if I'm doing a movie or something, getting some chili off of it.
Right.
But as far as just dressing up on a Halloween being a cop?
No, that never was about dream.
Could you wear a dress for a movie?
No.
You couldn't be in white chicks?
Yeah, for the right chili.
Like, because I know who I am and I'm comfortable with my skin,
so I don't care about what anybody got to say.
For the right chili, put me in a movie with Denzel.
He was going to go crazy or something.
Yeah, like, come on, bro.
That's the people that say they don't do it.
They're not happy with their self.
I know who I am.
Right.
And if they're funny, I'm funny, and I can do it and pull it off.
Like, I know I'm not that.
This is a movie.
They take movies too seriously.
It's different.
They take movies too seriously, man.
It's different to cross dress if you are an actor.
They take these movies too seriously.
Right.
That's just the bottom line.
Okay.
He's playing a part.
Here's the hypothetical.
What if I get offered a movie role?
And in the movie, I have to say the N-word.
I'm a racist in the movie.
That's a movie.
Yeah.
They caught up in the character.
It's a movie.
That's not him in real life.
That's a movie.
What about, look at all other movies they made.
people instead they ain't over there bashing them yeah like come on it's a movie that's a character
yeah i think that the concern for a lot of people would be like that it would they would then have to
see it a lot out of context look at jingo come on what was what's name playing the house like come on
bro like it's a movie but okay there's a lot of things like i think you would have a hard time
if they were making a movie and there's a child molester in the movie i think
I think you would have a really hard time getting a lot of...
You know why I won't?
Because I know that in that movie.
He ain't really touched that child.
Ain't none of that's going on.
Like, that's a movie.
But a lot of male actors, I don't think, would take that role.
Because they know that people in their head are going to have a hard time.
Yes, but think about it, though.
It's crazy because I can get deep into that shit, I mean, I swear God, like, it's a movie at the end of the day.
Yeah.
Even though you're going to have people that's like, oh, no, I don't get on to that.
Whoa.
Look at all the movies.
But y'all still go watch them, though.
Right.
You steal right there watching them, though.
Like, come on, it's a movie.
That's a character, man.
They get caught up in a character, man.
Like, that's out.
Like, wow.
That's a movie.
You think that man that's playing that character did that?
No, he's reacting to somebody that's like.
But maybe he did.
Well, he's going to have to figure that out with God.
Because if he hit the streets, then they're going to do it.
They're going to make a separate documentary about him.
That's shame on him then.
He deserved everything got coming if he really in real life doing that.
Because do you remember the show Seventh Heaven?
It was just a lame-ass white show about like a family who like owned a church or like the dad's like a pastor at the church, right?
And I remember always seeing the movie or seeing the show like my girlfriend at the time her parents would watch it.
I would just kind of see it, whatever.
And then I remember seeing another movie like a lifetime movie and he's a fucking John Malester in the movie.
And I'm like, yo, this is crazy.
This shit is weird as fuck.
Like just seeing this dude play this character.
And then years later, it comes out, that exact shit came out about him.
That he really was that.
Hey, that takes a lot of balls to play a fucking child monster in a movie and then get revealed that you actually were down the road.
Wow.
But I don't know.
I might be fucking the story of.
I can't remember what they actually caught him for.
Right.
Damn, that's deep.
If I fucked it up, shout out to him.
Yeah, shout out to you.
But if I didn't fuck it up, then you're a weirdo.
He brought him present.
Put some respect on no jumper then.
That's all we're asking.
All right.
So what else we got to look forward to from smack?
And how do you get the name smack?
You smack somebody?
Nah, that came from...
And some people call it, say SMAC.
ESMAC, but you can say SMAX, smack, you feel me?
Short for smack, you feel me?
But that came from when I left Flursons and joined the game,
I wanted to turn that gang name into something good and positive
instead of when they hear SMA, big ass Mac, little SMA,
baby SMA, rest of peace, and tiny end, you feel me?
Now when y'all hear, y'all going to think positive of that name.
Like I just changed the whole narrative about it.
You feel me?
Because that name right there is something I stuck with.
I was in the game with that name.
Esmack, the boss.
You feel me?
That's what my Instagram is.
But yeah, so I just want to flip it around.
Like, instead of people hearing, oh, watch out.
No, no, no.
It's an ass smack.
That's a real good one over there.
You feel me?
He comes a piece.
That's what I really did it for.
So I just kept it in.
Shout out my big on me, SMA.
I love him to death.
I just kept the name.
I want to flip it.
Instead of y'all are thinking of it is negativity
in the gallery.
Now they know it's positive now.
So this was just your big homie and you just kind of rolled with his name?
Yeah, because I'm tiny ass mac.
You think I should be like baby A.D.?
I know.
You just be you like you did do.
Or maybe I should make him be Baby Adam 22.
Yeah, now that's what you do, get a little homie.
Yeah, that's what you're supposed to be right there.
I don't think AD is ready to be a little homie at this point.
No, not A.
I'm saying, you just get a little homie.
Yeah.
It's going to be a baby Adams.
You feel me?
Yeah, baby Adams.
But I got to get them like dressed up.
up looking exactly like me
that way like that's
like him being baby Adam but man
he's gonna get he's gonna outgrow that
by the time he's 16 he's gonna be like what the fuck
like it all depends
you're getting chilly so he might follow the lead
and make something out of itself
now I just feel like in
in the real world everybody wants to be their own man
at a certain point and at some point
it's different to be baby somebody when that
somebody is not known on like a big level
That's like me
It'd be weird to be baby Tiger
But that's like me
I'm tiny smack
Now you think I'll be going around
Saying oh yeah I'm tiny smack
Like nah
But even though I respect the big on me
But now I'm ass smack
So to the people
They like that's smack
They be on Instagram
Big smack
I just feel good
Like if I ain't under nobody
And then I'm my own man
I just flipped the name
And got it on some positive stuff
Let's go
What are you gonna eat for dinner tonight
Oh that's a good thing
I don't know
She probably cooks something
You never know.
Home cooking.
Yeah, for sure.
Gotta respect that.
I got a salad out there.
Salad?
Should I even make dollars on the way here around the corner over there?
What did you get?
Double cheese, burgers, small fries, and Dr. Pepper.
That sounds good.
Yeah.
With no onions, though.
Nah.
I don't like onions.
No pickles is my thing.
I don't have pickles either.
Oh, no onions and no pickles?
No onions and no pickle and no tomato.
Everybody.
If you ever have to serve, this man, a burger.
There's the cheat code.
You don't even have to ask them.
Yeah, just meat and cheese, no onions, no tomatoes, no pickles.
And I'm good.
Put that bacon on there.
But everything else, y'all think I like on there.
But just leave that out.
Hey, this interview is going to come out.
And then about a week later, you're going to hit McDonald's.
You're going to order that exact thing.
And if they don't know your order already, you can say, bitch, watch this.
You ain't seen this?
Now get my order right.
You didn't watch the entire thing
I did watch it
You didn't memorize it
That part hold up
Hold up
All right
Appreciate you
I appreciate you
I appreciate you
I want to give your flowers
Thank you
You deserve it man
You looked out for a lot of people
Gave people jobs
I'll let the
Let the record reflect
Man let me get your flowers
Thank you man
I appreciate you
It is an honor
Getting to tell your story
Thank you bro
I'm in smack
My boy
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