No Jumper - Spider Loc on Wack100 Doxing His Home, Keefe D, DJ Vlad & More

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Spider Loc addresses Adam about a comment he made a couple years ago, his last interview that never came out, Wack100, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. It is 433, and I'm in the building with my guy, Spider-Loke. How you feeling? It's the deal, deuce, deuce. What's hiding in with you? I'm blessed. How about yourself?

No, it's good to have you in here because, like, guys, just to break down the chronological order on this podcast over the past a couple months is that we did an interview with you. I don't know, maybe six weeks ago, maybe a little less. A couple months seems like. Maybe two months. I don't know. But either way, great interview. Over two hours. Me, you, Brick, Babe.

be going in excellent conversation somehow the audio didn't get recorded i've been mortally wounded about this ever since because it it hurt me in my heart and the and the worst part about it is i know we went super like off the pre-written questions so i don't really like have any way to remember what we talked about that we like that the the world never ended up seeing that energy was so on point like i had my anticipation being here that day had had me just anxious enough to where I wanted to have an engaging situation with you, and it went there. It went exactly where I wanted it to go, and for that not to be available, it taught me a couple lessons. And I believe some of the things we discussed that necessarily needed to be

discussed, probably the world you need to hear. And second, remember, some of my entourage that I allowed had a floor said some things I didn't appreciate. That, probably could have triggered things beyond that. Oh, really? So we might almost. Remember I had to tell, oh, boy, we ain't doing that. Hold up. Yeah.

Because he jumped on there, like, oh, wait, right, right. When he got, all that was unnecessary. You know, CMAC was outside at that moment and ended up leaving. He was going to come here and crash our interview. But he encountered the homie, and the homie engaged him in the conversation, similar to what he was saying right here. Really? And Lupe had left it with some tacos.

and by the time she came back with the tacos, the homie got in the car and left based on the little confusion that was related to that same conversation the homie said. So I think that was not needed to be said and I really had it on my heart to approach you about the term, that phrase.

I felt like I had to. It's so much time had passed but I felt like I owed it to the culture but I think it was more of a personal thing versus than me putting you on the spot asking it. I love the way you responded it. What was the phrase? Your people,

your people. Oh, but who did I say that to? It was you and AD in the height of the COVID. Oh, okay, with the vaccine. Yeah.

And my people were hesitant to get in line. And you were indignant to her AD impressing him as why he don't use his voice to be more vocal and motivating your people to get with the program. Do you realize that your people are going to cause it to be adverse reaction because they're not with the jab? And AD was. trying to express to you are apprehensions as a culture and you didn't quite get it. And that, I recall this and you, you were somewhat happy because of the fact that I

acknowledged that I didn't like the way that I had handled that. For the record, this was like when COVID was first coming out. Me and A.D. It had a blowout argument on the podcast. And it was weird because at that time, we were many months away from the vaccines even existing. So it was like very early on in the conversation. but I definitely like having seen how the discourse kind of happened after that,

there's like such a stereotype of the white liberal who basically talks down on everybody that hasn't been triple boosted, etc., etc. So even though I would say for the average American, they're getting vaccinated, especially if you live with old people or anything like that or work with old people or if you're around a lot of people like through your job or whatever, I think it's probably a pretty good idea. But I don't think you're going to like convince people to, take that kind of thing seriously

by sort of like calling them dumb which is maybe not literally what I said but it was definitely like something in that. Takes a big man to admit that because I didn't even phrase it that way and that's basically how it came across and the fact that you was receptive to that because you know you're indignant.

You could easily have came with a sarcastic snarky response to make it justify what you said but you allowed me to hold you accountable for that and you stood on that and I respected that I kind of wanted the world to see it but the fact that they didn't see it I was kind of thinking like maybe that was just a moment for me and Adam to understand each other as men, but now you're still comfortable explaining it.

So maybe it was something that needed to be shared. I don't know. I know when Tyreek Nishid was on his way up here, I tried to press him to question you about it. Because I thought he would be the perfect person. Oh, really? And when he didn't, I sent him to clips. And he told me, all right, then y'all had the whole interview. Shout out to Tyreek Nishit.

Yeah, the fact that he chose to not bring it up, I was like, damn, it's still on me. and look how much time had passed. I think a lot of people are weary of bringing up anything about the Vax, the jab on camera because they kind of know that that's a pretty good way to get demonetized or get your YouTube video, whatever. So they feel like if they bring it up, it'll be like extra edgy slash it might get cut from the final thing, which I would not personally do unless I absolutely had to. But also I feel like his most, like he's been on the show, I think, three times.

like the first time was with me and Flacco or something, and then the two more recent times have just been him in Flacco, if I'm remembering correctly. And I don't know if I'm blending events, but in the past, he had negative encounters, right? Me and Tariq, no, I don't think so. Okay, no, no, okay.

But I want to say this. I'm probably one of the very few white people that he hasn't really had, like a little scrap with online. Okay. I want to say this just while we're on this subject matter. My issue for the audience was the term, your people in relation to the term,

the historical context of the term you people. Right. And just being young, I can't quite remember my age. I believe I was a team. I can't name the individual. But there was a media person. Media wasn't what it was now. So it really stood out.

There was a media individual that was a Caucasian that used the phrase, you people, to describe black people. And I remember he got fired. Like before cancel culture, he was canceled. So me also not really taking it personal because I knew you weren't thinking in that context. Yeah.

I just made the connection and couldn't wait. to confront you with what's the difference between you people and your people because you know you got somewhat of a racist accusations against you so i mean not knowing you and knowing you are debater and knowing controversy and i couldn't wait to ask you about these certain things but you know what it is too is like especially in that circumstance we were having that conversation before we kind of like knew how the whole vax conversation would play out so acting like you know everything or acting like you're 100% sure of what the correct medical advice whatever is like kind of silly when you think about how this whole situation played out where the vaccines

didn't end up really like stopping the spread in the same way that we thought that it would. It definitely like mitigates your, you know, situations that you're going to have to deal with. Like myself personally, when I had it, I was absolutely in terms of like my body, just like the pain and like I was just so exhausted for like over a month after that. But the vaccines didn't end up doing exactly what we thought they were going to do. That's just, to me, that was kind of a learning experience. And I have a lot of respect for people who can go and have conversations with people who are on the opposite side of them ideologically and be able to have intelligent conversations. And you don't want to be the guy who's basically just accusing everybody of being a puppet or being stupid or being misinformed just because they have a different opinion than you.

Like, that's just not going to sway people. So if you want to sway people, you got to meet them where they're at. Sugar and shit. You get more, what they say, you get more flies with sugar than shit or catch more behavior. Yeah, some of that nature. Is that true? Because every time I'm cleaning up dog shit in the yard, there's so many flies on that thing.

You ain't never lied. That might have been the wrong analogy to make, man. But I never had a pile of sugar in my yard either. Why would we? Yeah. But now I'm kind of thinking about it. I know to that point, I take notes from like Malcolm X,

Farrakhan, Martin Luther King, and when I watch old footage and see them having conversations in very, like, controversial times about very sensitive subjects and they are able to have the dialogue without getting emotional, without reverting the rage.

And I try to take notes on that when it's time to have conversations when you're on opposite sides of very sensitive issues. So for you to mention being able to appreciate people who can dialogue and disagree, I have the same appreciation for that.

But you know what's interesting though is I think, okay, like I've been on a lot of different podcasts where we end up talking about doing porn, being a porn star, etc. And like people always have criticisms or questions or whatever. And I've been in a lot of those conversations and I always end up getting compliments for, oh, you totally disagree with my side of this topic or whatever. But I appreciate the way that you had this conversation because you

didn't try to shut the other person down. You listened. You gave them your opinion. You tried to be very human about it and everything like that, which I appreciate those compliments. But why am I able to have those conversations in a pretty confident way is because I'm very secure in that. I've had those conversations over and over and over. So it's very familiar ground with me. And why would I maybe potentially resort to like calling somebody dumb or getting

angry or getting heated when having a conversation about stuff like the vaccine? Well, I'm not a scientist. You know? I think you just probably want to go outside. You want to take your mask off. You want to go back to the club. And it seemed as if there was a portion of society that was being resistant. And it comes across racial

because you're talking about a group of people and it's our group of people. You don't care if they were purple, pink, yellow, but it's those people, and you were just talking about, why you don't get at your people, but us, there's going to be a sensitivity to a reaction of it. And I just think it's like you say, people understanding each other and getting to the conversation and getting to an understanding and then trying to do their best not to offend one another as they move forward. Because it's bound to happen again.

And as long as we're honest with it, when it occurs, I think, because you're definitely not a bigot. Right. But I think everybody is to some degree racist. But I think I also had like a fantasy version of how COVID was going to play. out in my head where I felt like, no, this is something where if we don't all get vaccinated, then we might all die. And if there's even a handful or 5% of society that doesn't do it, then that's going to be

like really fucked up, which it is kind of easy to imagine a scenario where we could have another pandemic that would be even worse. And imagine if that was the scenario where it was really, let's say that COVID was like a hundred times more deadly and spread 100 times faster, but the vaccines were 100 times more effective. You know it's crazy to me. That would be a situation in which you really... That's all the movies we've seen.

But you still probably wouldn't be wise to try to get the point across with the vaccines by being super in people's faces and being disrespectful about it. Even if it was life or death, you still probably need to think about how you're messaging this to the world if you want to accomplish your objective. If there was a fire outside this door, will we give a fuck of how someone came and said, hey, let's get out of here. The building is burning. We wouldn't care about the delivery.

True. So I think more so in that scenario is this, damn, I had a lot. They got the whispering that threw me off, because that's crazy. I got, man, that just fucked me up. They, um, shh.

Hey, homie, hey, please. Good guy. Doing my job right there. My love. No, you're saying, yeah, he just fucked off my whole train and thought. I had something I wanted to say, definitely.

But, um, but, yeah, that's how they, that's how they marketed to us. We've seen that movie a million times. If you notice, once COVID hit, all those outbreak movies was like just popping up number one on streaming. I realized we've seen this movie a million times. I just don't think you were aware of our history with, you know what I'm saying, being vaccinated against our will and knowledge.

And even outside of my culture, when you think of like M.K.O. and things of that nature, the government has been known to be quite deceptive. in a lot of cases when it comes to injections and giving treatments. And even the way Africa is treated when it comes to the types of experiments and vaccinations, this is why we had the natural apprehension. It just seemed to me you wasn't aware of why we were like not on board. And that's all it was. And I just know it came across as if you were insensitive to our plight.

Yeah, definitely. No, I feel like that may have been also at a time where I kind of felt like I was sort of was in control of the podcast to a certain extent. And I felt like I was, I was just trying to, like, regain control over certain conversations because there are times where people could say things on the podcast that are, you know, it's their opinion. But it's also sometimes veering into, like, conspiracy theories. And not all conspiracy theories are built equally, you know, because sometimes there's

just stuff that I feel like it's sort of inappropriate to air. Remember what I was saying, I got distracted. I was from to say the word conspiracy theory. You come across to me as a free thinker, someone who would lean more to the side of a conspiracy theorist. So when you were so on board with what the government was saying about it, it kind of threw me off. You see like the person that's like a fuck you to the government,

fuck you to the common trend, like Michael Myers would be somebody to me that you would resonate with. Is that true or not? I don't think so. If anything, I think that I have the particular brain type that kind of- Michael Moore. I will give the fucking government a lot of, a lot of credit that I think that they're essentially trying.

I just think it's really hard to get things done in big organizations. But I think that, you know, in general, I'm a very like anti-conspiracy person because I feel like usually the conspiracy theories that people are really excited about can often be explained through much simpler, more logical ways. But you were raised around politics. Your father was close to high politics, right? I was raised around traditional politics. So, yeah, I definitely, you know, a lot of people kind of.

kind of got into talking about politics on Twitter or on Facebook or whatever. Whereas, like, from a very young age, I've been having these conversations. And I also, like, I have the memory of living through 9-11 and being kind of persuaded by some of the documentaries that basically were- That's why I said Michael Moore. I would assume you would. Because it's so convincing, bro. Because I ended up basically, like, feeling like I had been duped by some of the loose

change documentaries and stuff like that because I think that actually 9-11 played out in a way that is like not really conspiratorial at all. I don't think our government had anything to do with it. I think that it was just a bunch of religious maniacs who wanted to kill people and they were very successful. We may have religious maniacs become that strategic to coordinate. I can see one hit, but multiple hits same day that takes so much coordination.

That blow out. It takes me, honestly, it takes more brainpower to believe it wasn't an inside thing than it takes to believe it was. They planned it for like 10 years or some shit. And I think the crazy thing about it is that... What about the way the buildings fell in a demolition style fashion? I don't know. I've watched a ton of stuff about that and about the structures of the building and how you

don't really need any sort of like conspiracy or dynamite or anything to get it done. But, you know, and I'm a student of somebody like Joe Rogan, who I remember watching him go through this process where in the early days of his podcast, he was down for every conspiracy theory. He... And then, you know, he thought the moon landing was fake and shit like that. And I think the moon landing, when he finally really, like, researched that enough to realize that. Yeah, like that kind of did a lot to me, too, of realizing, like, oh, a lot of this shit is bullshit. And there are people who this is their whole career to try to, like, get you to believe things that are hard to believe on the internet for clicks.

Elon Musk and all the things he's doing and projecting doing and still accept the fact we went to the moon and haven't been back and don't know how to go back. But yet we have an Elon Musk. But we've landed devices there and stuff. Yeah, but there's still a common. understanding that we cannot access it the way we did. Oh, we can go back to the moon. I think that they just... That's not a common understanding, is it?

I mean, we could go back. I just don't think that there's that many people that are, like, super excited about it. No, but I think the real understanding is the technology that actually took the land of man on the moon doesn't exist anymore. That's the story that permeates is why we haven't been back as a man.

I don't think that's true. I think that we could definitely go back to the moon right now. You usually have somebody, when I'm watching you on TV, you have somebody like Google or you grab your phone and start Googling it or something. It's not that deep. We don't have to stick on it. Could we land on the moon right now?

I'm pretty sure it's just going to, yeah, could we go back to the moon? I got a song to the moon. So anybody watching this, it's old for my space days, but just Google Sparta Loat to the moon. Shout out E-note. Take you to the moon. It's like on some chick shit. The last time a person visited the moon was December, 1972. I wasn't even born.

Astronauts say the reasons why are budgetary and political, not scientific or technical. it's possible NASA could land people on the moon again by 2025 at the very earliest. So I guess they're not in any big rush. I don't know. We could definitely go to the moon though, me and you. Well, you know what? If you say let's roll, as long as we've taken like four or five regular trips before that, I might be down.

Really? Yeah. You got to take me elsewhere first, though, bro. We're not going to the moon first. I hate roller coasters. I hate roller coasters. I hate roller coasters. I don't think I really, like, would love going in a helicopter or anything like that.

like a small vehicle that's up in the air. So the idea of going to the moon, and I just don't want to have my fucking stomach. Feeling sick to my stomach. The last thing I did for China Mac, as far as networking, was introduce him to Robin Petgrave, who runs tomorrow's aeronautical museum at the Compton Airport. He's a pilot.

He's filmed all type of Hollywood shots. He's actually the pilot and the photographer that's responsible for the shots of me at the beach in the original Bluiful World video. You see me standing out in the water. He made passes over me like this close with his helicopter hanging out with the camera.

It costs about $12,000 for the type of shoot he did for me for free. He also has the youngest solo flight cross-country that he trained someone to do at the age of 12. But I hooked him up with Chinamack very recently for him and C-Mack to do an episode at Mac Adventures. So since you're saying You're extremist, bro

And you're saying you scared The helicopters I want to invite you to the episode I'm gonna keep you posted When we're shooting it You gotta get on the helicopter I'll go on a helicopter for sure You haven't been on one

Nah You're going on with me C. Mac And China Mac and Robin Peggrabah You hear me Robin We got Adam coming We gotta get on the helicopter Bro for the Mac Adventures episode Wait but so you and Craig Mack

are on good terms Because you were talking about him Leaving and stuff Like would you have been upset If he stormed into your interview I would have loved it I would have felt like I was a part of an organic no jumper moment that I've witnessed.

I told him the day before what time I was going to be here. He didn't tell me he was coming. But apparently he chose to pop up within that time frame. And you wasn't going to know, but he was going to bus in and we was going to have a moment. However, when he pushed up, the homie seen him. And the homie chose to address him about the issue that was on his mind. And I don't know if this was the motivation or not. but when he was standing out there

Lupe had dropped him off she went to go get some tacos shout out Lupe, neighborhood bro and instead of coming in here and crashing an interview when Lupe came back with the tacos after CMA had the conversation with the homie

he left you never knew he was here right I mean that overlap I had no problem with him it was no problem with me and him that's my loat yeah that's my guy but in general when you have the podcast overlap that's when it can get tricky because Vlad still to this day will get shit because back in

the day he had a day where he interviewed Tariq Nashid and then he interviewed Tommy Suttermeyer. I forget exactly what he said. Those are the people I was thinking about when I was going to ask you if you had a negative incident. Right. Okay, go ahead. Because, okay, so then he interviewed Tommy right after and then Tariq Nishid, I think, like show, like, he knew he was there.

So he goes back in and he tried to give him the, uh, I thought that was you. Yeah. Quote unquote, Coon of the Year award, which, not my phrasing or language, but he was holding a trophy and he's trying to give it to him over and over and over. And Tommy's pissed and Tommy keeps saying, Vlad, you set this up, you set this up. And Vlad, I swear I did. I believe him 100% they didn't set it up. But that's the kind of thing that could become very problematic when you have a little overlap over here. The fact you're talking about the overlap, you know that could open up a whole wave of our next level of conversation.

But before we get to that, pin, pin overlap. Pin the overlap. Got it. Remember last time, let's bring us back to last. I'm really going to pin it. I'm going to write. Astrich's overlap. Did you ever get at Vlad?

About what? Remember last time? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't going to read address it this time, but since you brought him up organically, did you ever get at him? I did. And he said that he has no problem with you. And I said, okay, would you be down to have him on the podcast? And he said, I don't really think it makes sense for us at this time.

Vlad, you know better than that. When you was DJ Vlad the butcher, just had the camera. I got the footage to prove it. I had you in the A. Trai gangsters. You had that ghetto pass. We was potteness. Never done nothing negative to you. Your platform reached out to me in 2017 for an interview.

My response was, Vlad himself, because I know or I thought you had people that sometime did interviews on your behalf of your platform. So my only question was, Vlad himself with question marks. And then they told me, after I didn't hear from them with no response, A couple weeks later, I said, hey, they said we're not interested this time. It's 2017. So what's happening, Vlad? You know our history.

You know they make great content. It makes a bunch of sense, Vlad. It's a conversation we can have. We started off before you knew any of these people. Remember? Remember I had you in the hood, homie? Oh, my mama, mama keep it to Google. Yeah.

I don't know. I think if I had to guess, I would say that I feel like Vlad is trying to like expand his platform more into like, you know, because he's been having a lot of Alan Dershowitz's and a lot of like he had that that guy Brian Johnson who's like from he created Venmo and he's like injecting his son's blood into himself and like he's doing all his Dennis Rodman I bring a couple of nephews that's in NFL I'll bring one of them with me if that help it make him better right I feel like if I had to guess I feel like his thing is that he kind of is trying to stay away from being in the current podcast landscape where people sort of like

have people on get them to talk shit about certain people then have the other person on, get them to talk shit about that person, which sometimes, you know, we kind of fall into it as well. You're a better friend than I, than a lot of people have for you standing in the gap for him like that. I'm shooting him some bail right there. Yeah, you're doing very well as a defense attorney, but Vlad and myself, we can hold down quite a long conversation just discussing myself and his interactions.

We don't have to talk about anybody. We just talk about our experience and why I'm here talking to you about him instead of me already being on this platform. That's a simple conversation. Vlad, you already know, nobody owes anybody anything. But in the sense of the game, throwing the dog a bone, you know you owe me that look, Vlad, keep it a Google, my nigger. There's somebody that you don't like that I feel like he's...

Down with. But I forget who. Show me in this whole industry that we are affiliated with where that matters. Yeah, especially as an interviewer. Come on, man. Like you just was describing what he's trying to get away from. I was a part of you being that type of individual. The first time I came on your platform in 2018

In the next couple of days You had Bosco and Wack And they trolled me And I got right back in your DM It was like, my turn, I need to come back I didn't hear back from you until 2023 Oh, okay, back then, yeah I'm just saying

I feel you with that's what he might be on But that's if you haven't noticed by now I can talk about a lot of things other than What another doing Right I don't need to talk about another fucker to hold in the rest of conversation on my mama mama. Yeah, no, definitely.

Because that's kind of like where the rap media game is at right now. There's a lot of like back and forth of like, you don't like this guy, let me do an interview. We'll talk about why you don't like this guy. And, you know, there's a place for it, but it also does start to feel, you know what it starts to feel like after a while? It starts to feel like battle rap, which, no offense to the battle rappers, but there's a reason why nobody wants to pay attention to all the beefs that go on a battle rap because they all feel hella fake because it's just like recycled over and over and over and over.

of like, oh, okay, these two guys are beefing, so there's going to be videos of them talking about why they don't fuck with each other. And I feel like, because Vlad fell back on doing the battle rap interviews too, quite a few years ago. And he still will do it with like some big names and stuff. But sometimes it feels like you're kind of pigeonholing your platform by just creating this weird little circus

where people go back and forth with each other on your platform. When as an interviewer, there's so much that you could do with your platform, and there's so many different personalities that you could have, and there's so many big conversations to be had. Not to say that you can't do both because I feel like I can do bullshit and high-level content. But you definitely have found yourself,

you know, established to the point where you can. You do that. It's almost like Donahue. Sometimes the Donahue show used to be way out, but sometimes it used to be, you know, sophisticated and prestigious. And you're like in the new wave lane of that. But I am so exhausted

and displeased with myself for falling into that. trap to being one of these people on the internet that go back and forth that recently I went out of my way to hit my homie Dico from 8-9 just late night loaded because get whack on the phone. Oh my mama, mama. You know how bad I talk about whack on camera, off camera. Right. Should I tell you when nobody's listening, looking?

Nobody around. I say, cut, Dico, get whack on the phone. I tell Dico, I'm like, uh, tell you. Tell Cous, we need to, uh, he need to either, like, get on camera and at least, I say, Cuzz ain't got to say, I lied, Sparta wasn't there. I said, he could at least just say, I might be tripping. I don't know how, maybe he wasn't there. Or we can get down, but we need to just, like, get this energy over with it.

This is stupid. And this is based on, like, me talking to a few my homies and just what you just said. There's so much more to talk about our gifts of being orators are so much far bigger than just sitting on this bullshit. I hate that I got pigeonhole as one of them dudes. So just me knowing, I don't agree with nothing whack says or I don't know I'm thinking. I know I'm not wrong on the principles of our disagreement. I still call myself being a bigger man based on the fact that's the main negative energy I got on the internet. I say, it's been all this time.

It ain't did nothing. It's just this bullshit. Let me go ahead and reach out and tell Cus. Let's find a way to make it come to a head. So, Dico, like, all right, Cud, I'm going to call you right back. And this is, what, a couple weeks ago, you said? If, a couple. Maybe like 10, 11 days.

Got it. I could look at my phone and verify, but not that long ago at all. So now, Dico, if y'all are not familiar with Cus, that's my homie from 89th Street. And as long as I know WAC, which has been over 20 years, Because at this point, I've been aware that him and Deco are like family. They're not actual blood, which I don't believe, that's how they push it. And they've carried it like that since day one.

And that was kind of like why me and Wack had a cool relationship that kind of went beyond me, just knowing them from day one because he was cool with the homie Dico. So all the time while we've been not really seeing eye to eye or having our way with a riffraff, him and Dico ain't never skipped the beat in their relationship. They're family. So that's why I reached out to Dico to say, put me in touch because. So Deco get us on the phone and whack-go clubhouse on me. So I never even got to present the terms or the conditions of, hey, because let's just like,

either you get online and at least admit that you could be wrong or let's squabble. Let's just get this shit over with. That's what I wanted to ask him. But he went so clubhouse on me. I never got to articulate that. That's a bad feeling when you're trying to, like, put the olive branch out there and trying to, like, clean the situation up a little bit and instead you get the exact energy

that you've been getting. This nigga's so goofy throughout the conversation right in front of my homie from 8-9 East Coast. He telling me, no, just leave it where it's at. Stutterbox broke as fuck right now. Stutterbox been telling me letting me get him. Wack, he's been waiting. I'm like,

I just laugh. I'm like, okay, all right, whatever. So he got so clubhouse, I just used to, I hung up and then just called the homie back. Like, you know, I ain't fin to do all Like if cuz I said it's cool, then we got on the phone a couple times and Wack couldn't help but go clubhouse. He kept going clubhouse. So all I was doing saying.

So when I'm on the phone with Dico when Wack ain't on there, I'm like, Cud, just tell Cuzz this. Just tell Cud, either going online and say, admit I wasn't there or say you could be wrong or tell Cud, we could just get down and squash it. Dico was like Cuzz ain't fin to do none of that spider Dico don't call Cud's Wack I can't think of it he got a little family or a little friend nickname he called him it's on tip of my tongue but I can't think of it was like scooter or something so

even while we was on the phone when Wack was going Clubhouse the homie kept telling Cud's like hold up but he don't call him Wack he called him by that little name so anyway he told Cus he like he didn't want to hear nothing I'm keeping Google Wack didn't want to hear nothing I was talking about he was woofing on me but the next morning the homie called me back and was like cuss

I talked to cuss again that shit squash you ain't gonna speak on him and he ain't gonna speak on you I'm like man all right but I'm in my mind I'm thinking like I just talk to this nigger man the man I know whack he ain't said itself how do I really know I can trust that

because it's like still gonna be a cold war if you never talk about each other like yeah that's good it's better than like going back and forth over and over but it's also like a five minute man to man conversation would be so much better That's why I chose to go that route. But then I wake up today.

No, and yesterday, I wasn't sure if Wack really accepted the Olive Branch. But then my home girl sent me a screenshot that I sent to you where she was like, damn, Wack was on club. I was saying, y'all had a roundtable. He ain't got nothing bad to say about you. So I sent Dico a screenshot of her message. It was like, tell Wack, we locked in. I sent the muscle of 100 and a woo.

I'm telling him it's locked in. I understand we're cool now. but I wake up today Cuzz get back to trolling I get people sending me a gang of shit He's talking bad about me and shit I'm like damn So what I assume

Happen is me and Wack Agreed to like ceasefire With the verbal or whatever The Troll and whatever you want to describe it as And what happened I had did an interview with Brick Baby up here Like a few weeks prior to that Right and it took like over a week for it to start coming out

Which Wack is fully aware of the process of how content is released. Right. But it seems to me I could be wrong. He took the opportunity to go back on whatever little ceasefire we went on and he got back to trolling me because I woke up this morning to a lot of whack disrespect. That's funny to me because a ho-ass nigger that I was voluntarily taking my foot off his neck to give him a pass just because I felt more mature than keeping engaging in his exchanges. It's not that he deserved it.

I just felt like fuck it. You know what I'm saying? I feel it real ironic. He was just sitting up here talking to you about Jay Diggs. And he tried to accuse Jay Diggs of taking a beef public that need to be kept on the low. Right. But this goofy bitch-ass nigga just announced to the world, we sat down at the roundtable. It's over with.

So if it's on, that's the perfect time we can get at each other. But then he wake up the next day and it's back on. He tell everybody. Right. But he was just telling you, that's bullshit. Didn't he tell you? That's what Jay. Diggs was doing, why you keep announcing it.

If it's on, we're going to keep it off. Ain't that what he said? All right. You remember that? Yeah. Keep it to Google. About Jay Diggs. He said Jay Diggs was broadcasting their beef.

If it's really on, why is he talking about it? Quit talking about it. Let it just let the streets handle it. Remember he said let the alleys and the darkness and the nighttime be our friend? Uh-huh. So if we just talked the whole world, we cool, if we got a problem really for real, why did you go back public? Right.

And that's the problem with you guys not having the open line of communication. We do have to open the line of communication. I chose to utilize it. And then he chose instead to do what a cell soldier would do. Utilize technology separation to disrespect me. We call it a cell soldier. A cell soldier outside. Yes, in jail.

People will say things on the other side of the bars to you that they had never say in your face. Uh-huh. And what the metaverse has created is a whole bunch of cell soldiers. they're virtual cell soldiers right that's why you see so many people comfortable coming up here or wherever they at being in these microphones talking so aggressive and disrespectful to certain individuals

because they're on the other side of the sale my nigga right yeah yeah that's all no it's a weird time to be alive because there's so many people that you know especially older dudes it's kind of shocking when it's older guys who seem like they are so they're just working on behalf of the internet Like they know that if they don't have beef and conflict, that people won't watch their content.

So you got a guy who's been gangbanger for 40 years or whatever and has always been a stand-up dude or whatever, never told, never did some gay-ass shit over the years. And then all of a sudden, they're a YouTuber and they care about how many likes they get or how many views they get, which is because it all comes trickling down to how much money they make. And you just see them doing all kinds of weird ass shit that you never would have expected. Not saying that about whack. I'm talking about other people who I have had my head right now. But there's been a big conversation about that. I mean, like, Big you even fucking made a video at one point. It's basically like just telling all the Crips, like, stop this shit.

I think he was talking about his homies. Yeah, I know. But like, I feel like, about the 60s. Right. A lot of people took it, you know, personal, like people I had conversations with. Or actually, a lot of people denied taking it personal when I was signing a sitting there thinking, like, no, he was talking about you. He's talking about some very specific people, I'm pretty sure. He was speaking directly to his homie.

but the implications spread to others. On my, my, my, my, my. I've had interactions online that were associated with my street affiliation. I'm not proud of, but I didn't initiate them. But I have allowed others that affiliated with my same affiliation

to speak my name in certain factors online and I engaged. And I may have needed to at those certain moments, but there are certain moments. I realize there's no need to. But I've been so on point to try to react and respond to all this respect.

back. I got to take a note out of the neighborhood nip book where he said learn. He probably didn't originate this phrase, but he made it common amongst our people, our culture. We need to learn to train ourselves to respond differently when we're disrespected. And this is something I've been trying to undergo as part of my personal development because I was fully aware. Like what me and whack was going through, have been going through, or apparently what we seemingly are still going through hey if we're really trying to get each other the best thing is for everybody to think it's over with but he blew that cover oh blah blah blah so make me wonder we got to start from scratch now yeah you dig it a lot fucking yeah it's it's a weird one too though because it's like you know

you're somebody who I definitely appreciate our conversations and like having on the show and stuff and I've been thinking like okay how do we do something more consistent with the spider look thing But then at the same time, it's like Brick Baby has the exact same situation as you where he keeps kind of seeming like shit might be getting better. And then all of a sudden, it's like they're going crazy. Yeah. And it's like, I know there was like a three-hour clubhouse argument over the weekend or whatever. But I just kind of like refuse to listen to this shit. So I'm really not sure what they were talking about.

I've heard bits of it. But part of the thing is what it's like Cah's always funny stuff in the middle of some Los Angeles Crip business. some Compton Crip business He's totally down to get involved With any kind of like Gang-related argument or any argument in general He's just down to like just weigh in and get in there He's such a fan of LA and Compton gang banging

He's more of it than you are When he realized it Well he's not a fan because he's more of like He's closer to it right? Oh he's a fan Right He's a fan But I have more layers of distance

Distance from it Correct But they have Lakers fans That live in Milwaukee Right They have LA Laker fans that live in Englewood. And so you're saying that this Pekoma,

Byru, is just a big fan of what's going on over there. Just tell me this. He sat right here and told you, Adam, tell me, how do a guy that ain't from Pekoma? Right. Know what a dude from Pekoma doing in Pekoma. Now, you apply that logic to everything he talks about.

Big old dummy. Yeah, I don't know. Wait, wait. He's a polarizing figure. No, stop it. Makes for a great podcaster, but it becomes dicey. He draws big attention.

Loud voices, aggressive, people who claim to matter in L.A. It draws attention. Sure, you get away with it as a cell soldier on the internet. But you're smarter than that, though, Alex. Don't do that. Alex. I mean, Adam, shout out to Alex Eliz on Street TV.

Facts on Affilius. My Digger, but look. Hey, you're smarter than that. He sat there and told you, this is this breakdown of logic. How does a guard from Pekoyma, who's not for Pekuaima? This is logic.

It don't make no sense to him. How could a guy who's not for Pekoyama know what a dude from Pekwima does in Pekwima? Just turn that logic around to everything he talks about. So how does he make any sense to you? Are you just pimping him because, like you say, he's pulverizing and it's good for numbers? Because I know your intellectual mind cannot process that as making sense. Well, but I mean, that's one of those like incoherent arguments that people use about everything. It's like, how can you talk shit about me when you don't even know.

me. I hear people say it all the time. What the fuck are you talking about? Everybody on Twitter right now has opinions about Palestine and Israel and absolutely nobody who's having these opinions lives there. That's what he pulled on. It's not necessary. But didn't they like sneak up years after like it's supposed to be good? And then they just did their shit right? Who? The Palestine shit that's going on right now with the war. Wasn't it like? It's very complicated, but. But in general, my understanding was there was a assumption of peace. Right. And then somebody struck like, fuck you. I mean, they've really just been going out of nonstop for like hundreds of years.

And so it's kind of hard to even just be like, oh, like, it's very hard to be like, these are the good guys and these are bad guys. He's avoiding acknowledging and observing the fact that that's bullshit. But he did, that's bullshit logic. Because if a guy from, who's not from Pequemma, it shouldn't have no business knowing what a guy from Pequemma is doing a Pequemma, whole no hundred shouldn't have no idea what nobody outside of Pequemma is doing. But all he does is talk about what everybody,

outside of Pequim was doing. He pushes himself as an expert on that subject. But your criticism of him in the first place was basically to say that he wasn't like, you know, doing his gang thing correctly. No, no, no, no, no, no. There was something like that that he was offended by. I have recent music.

Check out the record understood on all digital streaming platforms. The opening line says, bitch, you run my name. It comes back 100. As big you, top dog, whack 100. And it Shug Knight, both the niggas he happened to run over, the one that died and the one that survived. Rest in peace, Terry Carter, what up on? It's the perfect type of beat for me to nut up on. But bottom line, you see where I'm placing his name.

This is in the right before, this is like, when I put out understood, like what year was that? Like, 2019. I'm going to tell you what happened, because I'm on the internet. I had this like a 17-year hiatus from fucking around. I got to what was going on the internet now. Way late. I didn't give a fuck. I was doing some way of this shit in life.

Pop up, the internet is what it's now. I look up, whack hole no honey is telling this fake-ass story about having an encounter with me. And he fabricated the conversation he had with me that nobody in the world could have ever had with me, especially at that time of my life. So I tried to get him to go online and clarify it.

He refused. And that's where I, I started being honest about the whack I actually knew and being disrespectful in the process. I've been keeping the secrets about how much of a hole I know him to be all these years. Because I'm not the nigger that's running around exposing all the busters and the holes.

Everything make the game game. I can't be a boss unless we got some busters and hold niggas around for me to separate myself from. So you're saying they all pay a part of what we got going on. So whack was okay being who whack was. He cool. It's the homie. But I knew what I was aware of his character,

the caliber of a nigga he was. No need for me to run around and expose that. But when I look up and you lying on me, now it's time for me to be honest on you. I don't know nothing about, personally, about his gang bang. I'm not from Pekwima. But I do got homies that, no. Shout out to my homie devil from little devil from one line.

No, because, no. Are you familiar with the historic event? the East Coast Crips ran up in the program office, level four prison, and did a whole bunch of damage to some correctional officers? No. Okay. Well, do your research. Look it up real quick.

You know how we do it. My homeboys in the 90s. East Coast Crips. Calaptra program office stabbing. East Coast. I'm going to have to do some. Night boar block all up for death dough. So, like, one.

At the time that I reached, extended the olive branch to whack, this is information I've been aware of for years. But my homie little devil, who was a part of that massacre that you're about to look up, is now reformed ex-con, who I'm developing a program for ex-cons in a re-entry situation for. I'll introduce you to him sooner than later. However, he has been in the youth authorities, which it has brought. Boy, Cash knows him very well. So for the longest, he been,

Cud, let me get on your platform, and I know Cubs. Cud, know me. I was in T.S. with him. Now that's why I don't know. Somebody named all in places wherever he was at with Cus, but Wack, no the homie. But when I extended the olive branch to Wack, I was already having that type of shit on deck,

people that want to come on and speak on this character, that I wasn't interested in entertaining. Right. But he's like, he just don't, he won't even know, I don't know whack from back then. I know whack from early 2000s around shit. He was a very respectful get-along, non-confrontational, non-consequential dude. All the aggressiveness we see, I've only seen it on the other side of the bars. I promise you, all my daughters, dead, homies, loved ones, lokes, everything I love and live for.

I've never even heard a story of Cuzz being aggressive to a man outside of stitches, them two white boys in that parking lot. You know how he was on Clubhouse the other day? Why I'd be punishing the white boys? I think that was stag. I think it was paid. The woods don't stand a chance.

That shit was paid. When Cass Jones. The devil would love to talk about the way he performed in the youth authorities. He's just waiting to knock me out. You heard him say that? Get a fourth white head on his mantle. No, he didn't say that. You heard how he said.

Ah, knock Adam out of feet. You didn't hear that? No, where he said that? Oh, because he said it aggressively. They was on clubhouse. He was going back and forth with Big Baby. He was like, get Adam in here right now. I ain't never told them not to schedule me at the same time you up there.

I ain't never, he said, get Adam in here. That's all us. He said, though. Yeah. No, you're going to sleep one punch. out of here. That's how you, that's how, yeah, that's what he said.

Me and Stich is going to have to start a support group for all those who have lost brain cells to the mighty fists of whack. Oh, God. Yeah, he's a super, what you called him, the cartoon villain? Oh, yeah, he's, he's like the bullet

from Mario. You know, that big-ass bullet, you caught him some type of villain, though. You said, I can't believe I'm sitting here next to a cartoon villain, some of that nature. A villain from a He reminds me of like a lot of villains from a lot of different cartoons over the years. But like, okay, and like you are like, um, you remind me of like the white boys that go out on the safari and get real close to the lions and the, I would never do that.

But I'm only comfortable in urban environments. So are you saying that you? Sorry. So you're saying we ain't shit? Because you seem to be the most worst active, edgy, uh, risky, uh, element in our culture. I always been like that. That's what I'm saying. Even before content.

That's why I know that this is not just like a new persona that I've developed for content. I've just always been attracted to, wanting to give opportunities to people that other people didn't want to fuck with because I just, I just enjoy it. So how do you handle the fact that your pigmentation is so different than ours that they call you a vulture? And you stay right in this shit no matter what. I personally am aware of how you provide opportunities. I can really give a fuck less. Somebody calling me a culture vulture is like the most meaningless shit to me at this point. It's like calling it.

Did it ever bother you early on as you were developing? I remember in the beginning be kind of shocked because it's like when you start out doing a platform like this, you go for months or years or however long getting all love because you're small. So the only people who are paying attention to you as you're picking up fans are the people who really like what you're doing. Then at some point you kind of cross this barrier where all of a sudden a lot of people know about you who don't necessarily like what you're doing and they're forming an opinion of you based maybe on just seeing a clip or hearing something about you, et cetera. So I remember like the first time that somebody called me a culture vulture just being kind of like really offended and just

like what the fuck are you talking about me? How could you possibly feel like that about me? But now, of course, I mean, I was just kind of got used to. I mean, I've seen a clip from Vlad the other day where Vlad said calling a white guy a culture vulture in 2023 is like, calling them a cracker. Okay. Which is kind of similar because it's like, listen, like, if I were to call you the N-word right now, the hard on everything, I don't know. It's hard to imagine.

We're not do such a thing. But if I were, it would feel crazy. Ah, God, no. You don't use those things? That's salt. I know salt doesn't sound like good, but that shit will blast you. This is the new age. Bugassault.

Bugassault.com or something. Dang. Would knock a fly out. Okay, but like. Go ahead. Or if just let's just say like a random person close you to the N word totally is going to like fuck you up like in your head like alarm bells are going to go off like what the fuck he's disrespecting me is like going to hurt I'm not going to say it's hurt your feelings but it's going to piss you up but it's like different when you call a white guy cracker because it's just like okay like I'm not that that's never going to hurt my feelings in a million years and I would put the culture volger thing in the same sentence where it's kind of like it's an insult that in itself is almost like impossible to offend me because I just don't really respect the. the term itself. But you know that makes it totally incomparable to the N-word, just in nature

just based on those flags. No, I'm saying, but it's like, Cracker is the white guy version of the N-word. It's not. But it doesn't do anything to the average white person. It's just like with the Sireneos and the blacks. Right. We have no Maitte. What's Miette? That's how they call us the N-word. Oh, okay. But if it's

on with them, even when you're mad, Beiner don't sting like that. Wett back don't sting like that. Right. Miette is the N-word. We don't have one of those. So when it comes to Cracker or Culture Vulture In no way, no form, no fashion

Are they comparable to the N-word? Right, because I don't know any white people Who would really like have their feelings hurt by that Now, they don't even know what cracker means Do you know what it means where it comes from Historically? Cracking whips, right? I would assume.

But I didn't know that until recent years to the internet Right. I didn't know where it came from I thought it meant because we I usually, I think my mind told me saltines are white And I thought that's where it came from I think I'm more of a rich cracker than a saltine No, you're not.

I'm Ritz. I got a little bit of a tan. No, Bruce Murph, come here real quick. Let me show you Ritz. Let me show you Ritz. This Ritz right here. No, that's not a Ritz. That's Ritz. That's a fucking Twix bar.

I know. I'm more of a Twix. I'm more of a Twix. We got here. My Nogh, brownie loke over there. Show him with brownie. Because brown is brown. So that's more like a dark chocolate right here.

Oh, no. White chocolate, if anything. Yeah, he might really be dark chocolate. No, yeah. E. BC, Nightbug. My Loke. I'm a rich brown.

I love this. Everybody coming through to show their skin tones. Yeah, you feel me? Check me out. I got a, it's a beautiful thing, man. No, that's real. But, yeah, I don't know. There's definitely something to be said there.

The worst thing you can call a black person is actually hurtful, and the worst thing you can call it white person doesn't really do anything. But I wonder if you're a white guy who grew up in an environment where you were around 99% black people and you felt like you were mostly accepted and then one of them were to call you a cracker, maybe they would never. There's no way, it would never have the impact because the history of the N-word and everything we can visually associate with it. There's no way to, it's no, it's no, it's no nothing.

That's why we're able to make nobody else say it in our society except us. I can say nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, and you can't. That's how bad the N-word is. Yeah. So. But it's weird. Why do gay people have one of those? Because the F word for gay people is like the N-word, essentially.

That's the only other one. Right. It's an N and the F word. You know what happened? It's because the plight of our people in America, and then the liberal state and everything that's gone on, they took the blueprint for whatever reason, and they've been allowed to write the same blueprint under,

what do they call it, what we were dealing with civil rights. It's just, you know, everything in America is about when you go to court, you cite case law based on what happened in the past, and this is what works in this system, and what worked for what we call it. disenfranchised people, which were us, the rainbow people just ran with it. It's the same play.

It's like everybody wants to create the new no jumper. But one thing that I've seen, Tariq Nashid say, is that he resents the term people of color, because it basically like encompasses black people and, you know, Hispanics and shit like that. And his point is basically that it's insulting to compare the experience of

Hispanic people to the experience of black people in America and it's essentially like a useless term. And ever since he said that, that's one thing that's really stuck with me. And a lot of times I hear the ways people say people of color. And I'm just like, why are you not just saying black? Like you could be a little bit more specific. I don't even like the term black. Because you know what? I see black my shirt is black. My hat is black. My pants are black. This piece of equipment is black. The rim of your drinker is black. This top is black. Your shirt is brown. Everybody that just showed themselves on the camera as far more close to your shirt color than they are to all the

items I just pointed out. So I believe at some point us being tagged as black was not a term of endearment as well. But what do you think about the resilience of our people that could take something that's stanky as far as evil as the N-word and make it so fly? Isn't that resilient? That's like the people. At a certain point, yeah. But like who else have done?

Show me anyone else who has ever done something like that's like, that's almost like, and we kind of ushered that end too I'm not proud of it but females taking the bitch word and now they're wearing it like it's cool that's very degenerate I'm not even proud of the N-word other than the fact that

anybody could just imagine if you had the power to take a bullet that was shot to kill you and take it out and now this billet could get you a million dollars and you're proud of this bullet the N-word was designed to destroy the mean degrade and that we can take it and make

your kids want to be a nigger there's the element of where your children children want to be a nigger. That's a resilience that I'm proud of. I just got to express that. Because my kid is almost three, and she sings along to, like, songs. There's rap songs I'll play where she will pick up on one little part of it.

Usually it's a chorus or whatever, and she'll start singing along to it. So that just lets me know. She's three. But that's my daughter's daughter. Adorable. That's your granddaughter. My bad to the world.

I did not get to show me and show this guy a female. My bad. Yeah, but that's, yeah, that's my granddaughter here. Fuck off. What the fuck? I love you, winter. I forgot who I was shorter to. What?

I was just fucking with you. Oh, my God. No, no, no, you know what? I wasn't even thinking about that bullshit. I was thinking about you just a super freak. Not, I was just joking, but I wouldn't even think about the bullshit, bullshit. My bad, homie. I wouldn't even try to eat.

My bad. My bad. Me being a freak does not preclude me from appreciating. I have an almost three-year-old daughter. You know, the best humor is the one. You really just, just, no. rose me there. That's the best humor though. The one that makes everybody feel awkward and I was trying to make a joke. I feel like I'm the only one that feels awkward. But that being said,

awkward as well, because that's not what I was in plan. Okay. I appreciate that. I feel like I'm very close to my kid saying that and we're singing along to a song and then I'm going to have to have that conversation. And she's got like plenty of black people in her life that she's met that she likes that she talks about. She talks about a dub all the time. She talks about whack. She talks about whack like he's like a super villain because she like has kind of heard me talk about That's where you got the terminology from. Remember I tried to bring it up earlier, you couldn't like... Yeah.

You know what they said? You let a person talk long enough that you'll finally hit the truth. Well, I'm glad to get that. She talks about Desto Dub all the time. She loves Lil Durk. Is that right? So tell me this. Did you see the clip a few years ago when Kendrick was on stage with a white fan?

Oh, yeah. And she was reciting his lyrics. And she shot out top dog, Kendrick, Moose, Jay Rock, the whole squad, my folks. But you see when he stopped her and made, took that moment. to not allow her to repeat his lyrics. What do you think about that? I think that's fair? Yeah, especially if you're like on stage right in front of fucking Kendrick Lamar.

It's like just one of the greatest black artists of our generation. And you just like don't have it within you to fucking silence that one word out of lyric. I feel like as a white person, we have so, or at least me, I have so much practice in artfully dodging around saying that word. And I've had like quite a few weird experiences over the years. I remember one time I was at this little house party the famous decks was having and there was like a bunch of white girls there and a bunch of black girls there. And the white girls were like college kids and the black girls had afros and seemed a little bit more politically knowledgeable than the white girls. And some song comes on that has the unword and the fucking chorus.

And those white girls start scraped singing along, not a care in the world. And the black chase didn't say anything. And I remember just being like, oh, okay. I was 100% expecting them to trip out on. these girls but you know it's like yeah but sometimes you got to do the number count and realize you know it'll be another day if so and we so used to be you know down out here a wise general even knows when it's time to retreat or you know to wait for a strike so i ain't mad at them sisters you know we you know part of the whole martin luther king thing was to you know non-violedly be indignant and be

resisted so I remember I seen push a T perform in 2006 some shit like that and where uh in New York and I'm just in the crowd with some some girl like just watching or whatever and I remember at one point he's doing like a bit of a back and forth and he says something like when I say you say it like he got like a large percentage of the white audience to scream the N word back at him and then he just kind of stopped and was like I just want to acknowledge how crazy it is that I'm a black motherfucker from the hood and y'all they're just screaming this word back at me and shit and i remember being like oh yeah i never really thought about that that much and then i remember even when i first got into this shit there was this white rapper named bones that i used to be going on some of his shows with them and stuff and he

had all these black dudes that he would rap with like a little group or whatever and i noticed that like when when he would be rapping along to his friends in his crew's songs that he wouldn't he wouldn't just not say it he would move the microphone away from his mouth during the n-words because he knows that when you see this clip, it's going to be pretty hard to tell whether you are moving your mouth during that exact couple of syllables or not. So, yeah. That takes a little too much effort. And I appreciate that power on behalf of my people.

But I would say that if we had that amount of power, if it bothers us that much, we should be utilized that powder to eradicate the word. Do you think the world would be better off if black people in general stop using it? if you have to go through the process of being expressive to the point where you want the world to relate to what you express, and then they grab it and create you as a superstar, and the process of that is repeating everything you say,

and then you're going to then charge them as wrong for repeating you, I think there is a calculated thought process that needs to go behind that to eradicate that. That doesn't flow. That's not continuity with how you're moving. I'm going to create this in order for you. to love me. I want you to love every word. And then as you do that, and then you repeat me, now you have a problem. I know, I love where we at. Never going to speak against us. We have the

power to manipulate that moment. However, just think about, if you talk about it without thinking about your personal implications, that doesn't make sense. So either we can keep that power to keep the opposite side and the trick back, or we can think more intelligently and find some way, maybe we just need to let the word go. What does it serve us at this point? It is kind of like a funny trick to be like, hey, we're going to create the most popular form of music in the whole world. We're going to basically like dominate American culture with this music. A lot of the number one rappers are like the biggest celebrities, the coolest people, the biggest trendsetters. And there's this word and we're going to use it every other fucking word constantly. But if you say it, you're not going to

be able to go to college. Yeah. I think we should be at the point at least where the E, The hard ER and the A separates what we're saying. If it's generally understood in context, the same way Joe Rogan kind of like got away with what American Cholo got away with. We know in our society, even if you're repeating someone, you're not supposed to utilize the N-word. But they did it.

I feel like a profit. Brick Baby, why can I'm in there? Remember I said, organic, no-jumper moment I've seen where a homie pop up. Yeah. But I didn't get it with C-Mack and look how the creator made one for us. Nightbud. What's my man Brick Baby doing right now?

We're wearing all red. You want to hop on? Hey, grab the mic. All right. Well, take my mic for a second. Well, I go to the bathroom. There we go. I need to.

No, car. And we don't like jobs, but this type of job I need, because I'm good. Neighbor. What's that? One of the best bosses in the world since that's my boss, you bitchass. What you call him? Boss. No, what's the other name you call him?

The 20-toaster. Okay, I call him the Duce-Duce. Yeah, the 22ster, man. What's going on, man? I see, I just couldn't believe when I showed up. The flashwater was so coordinated with my outfit and the ashtray. I just had to put me. I got OCD for color coordination.

My nigga looking like Tony Montana, man. You got the gold cane with this. Yeah, man. You got the little nose candy in the top. My mom in my way. Hey, who's the deal with you? I see you talking. What was we talking about?

nigger and nigger. Yep, the hard. We just were talking about that shit in the car. I'm just saying like, all the way up here. I mean, it's one thing because if us hanging on to it was benefiting us somewhere and we had an edge on the world, like, yeah, we can and y'all came and it was a benefit,

kind of like the nail shops. Yeah. They got that we can't and it benefit them. Yeah. If we was eating off of it, I guess we are in the music. So maybe it's something we could hold on to. But outside of that, it seemed real, petty to keep

influencing our counterparts that ain't black to fuck with what we do and we keep putting that word in it we want them to repeat everything but you know what we did it's like how the Harlem's they took dirty and turned it into their shit

to where you can't even dissed yeah that's what we just talked about kind of like so like we took their word and made it to where like you saying is not effective because that's you know you just fucked my head up cuz I remember having thoughts over the last 10, 15 years, like, didn't that used to be a dick?

That was the dish. Wasn't that a dis? And then I, like, I flipped it like, now, find something else. On Crip, yeah, I'm aware. On my mom's my mind. In the gang community. I never had this conversation, but I remember my brain realizing the transfer, like, on God.

He too. On God. Gang culture, you got a thing, dirty ain't really bad. Because we do dirt. You know why I can relate to that so. much because the swans got a clothing line called easty and me personally I was personally single-handedly responsible for giving the word Eastie the facelift nigger because Eastie was a disson so just been a derogatory word all my life is for

niggas that's from where he from to talk down about the bitches C-MAC still be doing it and that bitch oh Eastie when she got it yeah yeah yeah Eastie was like uh they mayonnaise sandwiches and got roaches in their house. But when I became a public artist and you know wordplay, gangster, I made Eastie fly. The very first only person. No, it's not me and somebody else.

Now, you go look on Instagram and just put Easty in the search and see how many crips that's grown call themselves Eastie. I did that, Adam, just so you know that. It's an East Coast crypt thing or just East South of Los Angeles thing. It's a Sparta Loke thing first. And now it's a, my kids don't even believe me.

No. Call of the person, Eastie, just come from the east side being a lower income area. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's cheaper to live over there. It's more projects. Like, say if we walked outside with our shoes off on the west side, our minds would be like, that's some Easty asses. Bring your ass in the house and put some shoes on.

Or a black girl with a very short tight ponytail. Oh, that's Easty. That's not cool? Yeah, no, assy shit is Easty. You got Roaches. That's Easty. I remember when Dub first started really popping. off. He was always like claiming East.

Like hashtag East on all his shit and stuff, which I wasn't really used to. But imagine the creative pride I have to feel humbly. Exactly. Being able to say what I just said when there's such things a Snoop Dog who branded the East Side all these years and the word

Easty was still reserved for me. Like what else can you do say about the East Side creatively that Snoop ain't said? Right. But being a creative, the universe and my gifts still allow me to be able to give the whole world the word Eastie, and it's way bigger than me now. Like I say, my 20 and 23-year-old daughters, when I try to tell them it's me, they be like,

yeah, all right, daddy, whatever. Right. Oh, my mama, they don't understand. Shout to G. Malone. If y'all need any reference, G. Malone, though, for a fact, I'm the one that made Eastie cool. Shout out to my man, Bosco for Invent and Zesty. Shut out Bosco, man. You know, you're wearing me and Bosco being like arch enemies on their line for a while.

Yeah, what years was that taking place? It's been about my whole, ever since I've been doing this online shit up until about a month ago. We're cool now. How'd you end up squashing it with him? Shout out to Big Court, Alex Alonzo, just motivating it on the back end, being, you know, cordial with the both of us, knowing that that was the best thing and suggesting it. In the same way, I told you I was in the, I ain't know, I see you hit weed online. Don't be act right there with me. I don't see.

No, but I heard him say he wants, that's the last dirty thing he's trying to get out of the system to his life is program. No, I'm a little under the weather right now. I got a little bit of a cold, so it would be responsible for me to hit the water. He made his due pounds.

He didn't want to shake hands. You're right. Yeah, yeah. My nose's been running. Now, but you know what I did? I looked in the medicine cabinet because I was trying to find something that would like make my fucking nose stop running

and I took like four Benadryls. And my girl told me, like, I don't think that's like the best thing you should be taken. So now I am very drowsy and my nose is, still running so I know Benadryl they'd be taking that shit in prison too right yeah yeah they abused Benadilly you know I called chicken pox when I was 21 in the county jail

and they gave me a bunch of that Benitville and told you the drink a lot of water and they put me in a quarantine because the ice cold assail by myself freezing on my man you know the order you get the worst chicken pox is I had chicken pox on every inch of my body bottom of my foot roof of my mouth top of my head everywhere. At 21 in the county jail miserable sick. Worse shit. Take your mail about three weeks to, two weeks to catch up to you. I'm not a mom. But you'd be glad

when it comes. Yeah, can't hear you. You know, I wanted to ask this question is, why did Wack post your house? Or what he alleged was your house? No, that's my spot in Compton. You know, I don't live there. That's not my, you know, residents. But that's, if you just, you know,

Wag, he'd do so much research. You know, he can know to pull records. Wesley Farrell owns it. That's my uncle. It's just been, you know, I've been a native of Compton for almost 50 years now. So, you know, that's a location that I acquired almost 12, 13 years ago. And it's just convenient for me to be able to be there for a lot of things I like to do. Because where I actually laid my head is like it takes a little time to get there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

So he thinks he don't exposing the secret. But for over a decade, anybody else that's really from our streets knew I've been there. Okay. It's no secret. It's almost like the marathon store or almost this location. Well, why did he do it? Well, you know, when you're not from L.A. and Compton, you have this tourist spirit. Don't tourists, photograph landmarks and places.

You know the address to that location? No. 211 East Greenleaf. Bodies being found on Greenleaf. With their fuck his head cut off. Motherfucker, I'm Dre. It's a historical landmark. It's just walking distance from where Venus and Serena's sister

got killed. Rest in peace. God bless her soul. How old was the sister when she got killed? I didn't know that. She was in her early 20s. Wow. Yeah. That's the older sister. Yeah. This happened like the beginning of the day. All the, all the beginning of the career. His mic is all the way up because I feel like it's a little cool. Yeah, get the audio right. We don't need no audio issues.

Imagine they lost it again. Mama, mama. Oh, Lord. The streets would run red with blood. All the like, Southside, comp, the Cripped. Conversation that's online right now. Yeah, walking distance from all right there. That's my stomping grounds. Right.

Part of them. So, okay, let's do that conversation. What interaction have you had with Kee-V-D during your life? Well, when I was a teenager, my cousin Stacello from Southside had been from Southside from my understanding for a year and a half, two years. And then one day I was on Glencoe, my home girl, Marcia, she had to turn herself in to the feds. She's from my hood, from my neighborhood. and she had,

you know, you hear these rappers getting caught up with guns at the airport way back then. In the 90s, she had accidentally caught up going through the airport with a pistol in her fucking briefcase that she didn't know about. Classic way to go do a few years. Yeah, exactly.

Happened to a lot of people. Oh, my mama, mama, my dad, homies, daughters, lobes, loved ones, all the everything I love and live for. She still had a house on Greenleaf at the time. It's in the 90s, early 90s. And she had a turning date. So when she was fin to turn herself in,

she threw a party on Greenle. So I got a cousin from south side. I knew the homies was going to be coming to Compton later on when the sun came down. So I stayed in Trachnohood instead of me going to the hood, then coming later on with the homies. I went to the South with my cousin, and I've been there all day hanging out in Compton, knowing later on the homies coming. So we've been in the Compton hanging, so we had the spot.

They homie, Big Duck, used to have a spot on Glencoe. The G homies had a spot downstairs. Big Duck, I mean, Big Duck had a spot upstairs. It was like a one-bearroom studio. It was like a trap. And we was in there kicking it because, you know, my cousin from Southside at this time, but he went in the next room, and out of nowhere you hear, boon-do-bo-do-bo-bo-bo-woo.

He'd come out, his nosebleed, and they're like, we just put cuss on. So it was a night like that. It was cracking. It was cracking. And I'm in here with a gang. Out of a bit around. Oh, yeah. I don't know if I want to go around that, NGEL.

It was a lot. It was good. It was put on. It was love. It's rough love. It's tough love. drinking. Oh, dang.

You know, my cousin been hanging and banging and swinging, and he was under the press. He was from the hood. Thinking he was going to skip that process. And that was the night they sprung it on him. Like, a few niggas who was around seeing his energy, like, that's how I go.

Oh, he really present. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that time. You ready? I'm not at you. He don't know it. And then, but my cousin, gee, free state slope.

Matter of fact, he just went to jail in August recently. And he got a million dollars. He's 48 now. No, he was 48 now. He was 18. Yeah. So we, that shit go down. He come out, nose bleeding.

Mind you, I'm from East Coast. And I'm in here with a gang of Atlanta Drive and South Side. It's a player, though. So it's a nigga name. Dan, it's going to come to me from Atlanta Drive next to me. Long story short, just get to the point. I ended up having the squabble out there. And Lil Mill from Land of Drive, went to jump in the squabble.

And then my cousin jumped in. It went crazy, woo-ty-woo. Right after he got put on. But Kee-Feed, my earliest remembrance of me, meeting Keefe D was shortly after the bullshit pop, Keefe D pull up and called, he used to call me Little East Coast. He's like, whatever, East Coast, he's like, you're straight. And I'm like, yeah, he's straight. Me and my cousin walked away from that scene right there. And that night, Baby Lane came and pulled up on me. I've told the story before. I don't want to go through all that. But I met

Keefe D back then. In my mind, I wouldn't imagine Keefe D would know me these days. However, little Keefe D. from Southside, his son, is my. dog. So just based on politicking with the loke and all that, I'm aware that Keefe D does remember me from back then. My cousin, my first cousin, my mama sister's son, Seasloke, he's from Southside. And him and Baby Lane was like quite good friends. And I knew Orlando before it was a baby Lane. So my auntie house is still on Chester. Orlando, as in the alleged shoot The alleged. The alleged, yeah.

Yeah. So I just, you know, just think about it. When your mother has three sisters and a brother and your father has siblings, you grow up in Southern California, everybody ends up living somewhere else. So you go spend a night over here. You go spend weekends over here. You start having, from childhood, friendships and connections in a whole lot of areas

that you don't even realize are reputable sections. And it's just natural development. when I walk out my mama house and look to the left, I see Tradgnew Park. When I walk out of her sister house and look to the left, I see South Park. That's just the way I grew up, not to over implicate myself in the track news politics or in the Southside politics.

However, from the day I was born, I got relationships that are very solid, free Mike DeRoe, my niggi, from Southside Compton, that are very saturated over there. So I'm very familiar with a lot of the ends and outs of a lot of the shit that you hear about talking about on the line right now. Okay. But so we know basically the KVD was in the car.

We believe that. He says they were right. It doesn't really seem like much of a reason not to believe him. But he's told the story in such a way that he's basically implicating. I don't think he's specified, but it seems like he's saying that somebody else shot Tupac. From your

knowledge of KVD, do you believe that? Because I've seen a few different clips of like Greg Kating, for example, example, was one of the lead detectives on it, saying KVD had money, he had influence, he had respect because of the fact that he was a drug dealer, but he was probably not the guy who was going to be doing the drilling when it came down to it. You ever seen Harlem Knights? You ever seen Harlem Knights? I don't think so.

Harlem Knights, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor's A1 Class Stark, a black comedians. Okay. But it's set in old school Harlem, New York. But I only say that because it's a play where they play the police so cold. you got to watch the movie. Go watch Harlem nights. Yeah, I think you like it. Yeah, check that out.

It's a lot of legends. Yeah, I just feel like Kee-Feedy-D ran a cold play. He got the whole world trying to put details together and play detective. I'm no detective at all. However, I promise you on my mama, mama, my dad, homies, my daughter's mom. At all, ever. I never played detective, but guess what? The day Tupac died, I knew exactly who killed him that day.

It's no secret to the people who really supposed to know. Really? What? Stop it. So that was just open air secrets out in the streets at the time. Not necessarily, but an element of the streets. If you were close enough to it. Yeah, same thing.

Like, how it's all this speculation of the actual conversation with neighborhood, nipped the Crip, lost his life. Certain people, there's no speculation. We know exactly what took place. Exactly. And it's not, you know, you got some people online trying to convince the world that they would know shit like that. It's certain people that don't care if people know. we just keep politicking and moving. Way before this Tupac shit

was something to be talked about, I've been telling people Baby Lane and Kill. I don't speak on it no more because it's politics. Keevee D. claim it, that's what happened. But for years, go back to my space days. I was on the personal internet and saying, I promise you Baby Lane and killed Tupac.

But I'm through talking about that to this point. You know, it is what it is. Let Keefee put it spinning on it. So I don't know if it's, because y'all been in here, for how long already? About an hour and 15 minutes. So on my way up here, I got a phone call for one of my good resources. I don't know to put their name out there, but did he lawyered up?

Did he lawyered up? I'm dropping the bomb right here. No jumper got it first, but this shit. He hasn't been charged, but he ain't been charged, but he lawyers. up. He's thinking it's a possibility. I got a message for Diddy too then. Yeah, he got the.

Mike DeRoe, Lil'all got your back, Diddy. So get your politics together. You need to hollie. He'll holley. He got support. Little bit of how, Mike DeRoe got your back. Allegedly you got the same lawyers from the murdering case. I want to say Irf, or it's, it's another high profile case, but he got about five lawyers.

Has there actually been official? charges brought or against Did he Not that we know It's going to hit The internet bus It's gonna hit Oh For real for real

Yeah And like today Probably here tomorrow Really? Yeah You think he's gonna be Criminally charged like today No I don't know if the charge

But The story's gonna hit today On that platform He for sure acquired Uh Representation I mean Did he's like the worst person

For them to try to like Bring charges against This many years after the incident because he's going to have super high profile lawyers on his shit and it's been so long we don't know what cell phone numbers is what unless Keefei

can remember did he's phone everybody's phone number back then maybe they can let me not help you are you see a dirt rock interview from Southside yeah dirt rock

so yeah so it's a number of a half a million that he talked about that was only half of what should have been delivered that is associated with Diddy. I'm only speaking on this because it's a big interview that's already been out for four years. Yeah, it's been out.

Alex just reposted it recently. Der Rock. Der Rock. And that's another name I'm quite familiar with. But anyway, yeah, it ain't no telling me. That's crazy. But like I said, Diddy, you know what I'm saying? You're going to get dirt rock at him?

You got folks that's affiliated. I'm going to watch an hour-long interview about it. You go, they got part one, part two, part three. You think we should get them? Why not? Yeah. Why not? I think we should.

You know, I'm just saying the machine being in motion since, you know, since you being here. Yeah, come on, yeah. All right. Let me ask you this, though. Do you think they, I mean, stopping short of, like, calling them names or insult them or anything? Do you think the Keevi D was doing some dumb shit by going around doing all these interviews, talking about the case too much? I think it's goddamn right. Yeah, yeah, goddamn right.

What the fuck? What you mean? Why not? I mean, how could it benefit him? all. And if it at any way led to what the predicament he's dealing with right now, either he just did not give a fuck, he was stupid as fuck, or he wanted to go back. Well, he wrote a book. So it's like, Vlad, I think at his first interview, and Vlad in the interview was trying to get him to talk about all these very specific details.

And he'll bring up very specific shit. And then Kee-D will be like, I don't want to talk about that. And so Vlad will say, okay, so in the book, it says that you loaded up the guns or whatever like you know very specific details so it feels like he wrote the book didn't get in trouble from doing the book did a did it did one interview and was probably super on edge and then just kept doing more because in his head it's like well if i didn't get charged yet and i wrote a goddamn book whatever the green rovers yeah for sure 100% and when you think about um our people and our plight in america i think the law and technicalities have been used to whip our ass for a long time and i think he probably got a little more confident than he should i mean i mean any part

that's undereducated on the law is going to play their stuff. Now, if you educate yourself on what you just did, if you go just look up the definition of a proffer and you see that after you go in or before, I would do it before, but you go in there. He had that some time because that's not no agreement. You get in place and go in motion

without some time passing. So he had time to research exactly what he was up again. Yeah, he knew what he was doing. Like, but there's a clue. out that he had cancer and he didn't think he was going to be. Have you spoke with a subject matter before? Who me? A couple times.

Have you been disrespectful toward Keevee D? Have I been disrespectful towards Kifi? I mean, yeah, Goofi. All right, I'll just let you know. I just got to say this on behalf of the homie. I haven't heard none of your commentary. But his son don't appreciate something you said. That's my loke.

So, yeah. So I'm just let you know just on his behalf. We'll talk back channel. We had talked. But at the end of the day. Just think about what he up against. Cuzz is like us. Yeah.

But then his daddy is going, and then it's hard for him to separate. But he goofing out, he can't do that at the streets. Like, like, like, like, like, no disrespect to you. Shout out, Kee-D. Yeah, no disrespect to you. Is he a real Crip? Yeah, yeah, no disrespect to you, because, but Cripping is Cripping. And, nigga, the rules is the rules, because, and when the rules get broke,

like I said, that's your family. You still go deal with your family, but as, as a representation of the other. of the streets. Like, that's wrong. And that's, you know what I mean? I stand on that. My only reason why I don't even bust down my whole perspective on the whole Kee-D shit is based on my relationship with his son.

That's my love. Well, they say that he had cancer, and he wasn't expecting to live that long. And he started, he said he was the only person still alive. That could tell the story. And he was going to let it be known. Rest in peace, my nigga, Young Flo, from Lantana, because I wasn't aware that the doctors told him he had six months when he had cancer. leukeia and they had told him that

Cud was living out here like he was going to live forever. He stretched that shit to 18 months and he passed but in the spirit of that what happened with you and OG suicide man shout out to the Lantanus L-Sem gang shout out suicide. You never you never saw that a clip. You got on ground like the Lantanhas too. What clip?

The clip of him talking about cancer? I've heard no. It's understood that Oh I bet I heard about it. I've heard it. I know that or I believe that to be true. I think that's well understood. He got it. I ain't seen what kind? You know what kind?

No. But, okay, in terms of the suicide thing, I mean, I don't know. It's like, part of me doesn't want to, like, rehash it because he's been quiet about it after, ever since we sort of went on separate ways. But it's definitely like, it reminds me that you need to be really, really careful who you do nice things for, who you do favors for. Because from my perspective, I was just doing something super nice for him

by letting him get the ball rolling with his podcast. And I always assume that when we chose to go our separate ways, once it appeared to not be a viable business, that he would understand. But then, like, you kind of forget that there's, like, a big incentive to make a splash and to say what you got to say on the way out the door. So I didn't really love the way it went down.

He was respectful, even with him being who he is, and how long he'd been around. Well, he did have a chair. Yeah, but that was so commercial, so comical. That was like on your level. He was trying to go viral. Yeah, I would do something like that.

Yeah, it wasn't like, I understand where he's coming from. What you don't understand is I know suicide is one of the first crips I ever hung with as a kid. Yeah, shout out to OG suicide 3D. My loke, the whole antenna click. And what led him to do this to himself was him feeling like rejected.

Like he had nobody, no family. He was in the streets, homeless, young. And I know, known him for over 30-something years and I know once he called you family, homie, any of that? Right. It's, yeah, yeah, just think about it.

His nephew, little homie, got up out of here and he stayed. You made it obvious it wasn't really lucrative for him to be here, but nobody knew that. So people assume it's because he'd get money. Yeah. But you might have thought he stayed just for the shine, but you already exposed that it wasn't

popping, he stayed because whatever he developed with you, he felt like that was y'all and that was separate. A lot of people could judge him a certain way because he probably should have left with his nephew. But go ahead. But I know once he feels like we family and then you reject me, reject him, that's what caused him to do this. But the thing is, I didn't reject him. I just said, you know, we're doing business and we gave this a shot and it didn't seem, it doesn't seem like is working out, and that was it. But to me, that's not a rejection. There's no reason for our friendship to end over that.

This is what happened. This is what happened. Go ahead. This is what happened. He threw him my alley-up. Hey, Al-a-Mah, oh, all right, hey, you can use a no-jumper studio. We ain't going to upload it on the channel, but you definitely can keep the look. That did a lot for the player.

Yeah, of course, right. That alone, right? Okay, you throw the alley-U. Now, I got to go. So I promised that. this was my last show. I'm not going to do nothing crazy. But we're in the era of trolling.

Right. So it was like, if I got to go, let me drop some viral content so people could follow me. He did it classy, though. Yeah. He did it classy, bro. He could be a motherfucker. It wasn't harmful. He was hurt.

You know, Adam. People, I didn't. Suicide don't do them type of speeches? Cuzz is very respected where you're from. That was like a Fousie. That was like if you fired Fousie. Yeah, Phyllis was hurt. And I don't want to put the homie in a position.

He's working with Phyllis, but Cud's Phyllis was hurt. That's on my mama. I just wanted to ask you that just because I knew he was going to have different subjects we tossed around. That was one of them. No, yeah, that was a tricky one to go through.

But, I mean, my lesson that I learned from that was just you got to be really, really careful who you'd do a favor or too. Or you got to make sure that they're on the same page because even with the suicide thing, I'm busy. So I told Josh when we made the decision that we weren't going to keep doing it, I'm like, yeah, can you just have the conversation with him? I guarantee you if I sat down with suicide and had that conversation with him and gave him 20 minutes of my time, that his reaction would have been different and he would have took it a different way. That's HR. Yeah, I know. And like, yeah, normally the CEO is not the one doing the firing, but I think in that case, it probably would have made the whole thing go over smoother.

I had told them. The typical CEO are dealing with employees and subjects that have been educated through the same system that makes them appropriate employees for the CEO. You're in a career or in a genre where as a CEO, you're dealing with non-trained, as business, and we're coming hip hop first. And now this is the new hip-hop extension. Just think about it. I went through it.

I went into a business situation but got tattoos. These are my homies. and when you sit up here and like, my boy, me suicide, I love you. We don't know as a, I'm speaking as a collective, we don't understand the business acclimate. We are in a situation with the homies. We got the sack. Now we fin the ball.

It's loyalty. When suicide, where CMAX said, they're going to defend you against a random motherfucker that try to trip on you. They mean it. Yeah. Not because you're their boss, because we ought to have jobs and could give a fuck if our boss get rushed. Right.

us and this being an industry that's not like the typical CEO industry. True. Go in with a loyalty and a bond that really is not necessary or supposed to be there. To me though,

this is how it always goes. I'll be friends with someone and then I hire them to do something either on camera or give them opportunity. In his case, it wasn't really like paid. It was more like,

okay, you can use the space and we'll have our staff. Yeah, we'll have our staff, make the clips and do all that kind of stuff. But that's still a fly look, though.

That's a first. Look. But then in my mind, it's like, okay, when the business part doesn't work out, we could go back to being friends. But then in reality, people's ego is so tied up in the business shit that when it doesn't work, even if you could show them sheet after sheet of paper and say, look, we are spending, not that this is exact a thing. But if you could show someone on paper that says, look, we're spending $5,000 a month and we're losing $10,000 a month. So, you know, we're losing all this money or whatever. Like to a lot of people, it still is just going to hit their ego and their pride so hard that they're not going to be able to just be your homie again. Because you're dealing with a culture of people who come from.

Right. If something bad happens and they're accusing me, but you did it, guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to sit there and ride the time. I'm going to take that same paper you showed me where I'm taking a loss. In real lifetime, I'm going to take that loss on your behalf because we homies. And that mind frame causes us. to assume even when you're showing it's that paper, we're like, so what?

You're the homie. That's not how business works. That's not how business works. And I am now in the place where I'm terrified to hire people that I consider friends. We're opening another store on Melrose. I'm so glad you don't get what fuck about me and I don't get what fuck about you.

I'm glad that we met on more of a business level or whatever. But now we have the store on Melrose that we're doing again, right? We're getting a cast. When I first met you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're doing it again, right? next to dubs thing and we're hiring people to run the shit and my mentality is on i want a bunch of people that i don't even know that we could build relationships with and stuff business because if i

hire somebody that is like my good friend and they do a shitty job i know that friendship is over done or there's a small chance that they just work for us for 10 years and they're happy as fuck and everything but when that shit is done it's done especially if you're hiring somebody who realistically does not have a ton of other options it's not like they're going to go get a job with some other media company or whatever. Even like the security thing, I got a lot of tough friends I met over the years and they all have mentioned at certain points they want to be security or whatever. I would way rather have a security guard.

They don't know? That doesn't really know me and is just going to like treat the job super fucking serious. I got one for you. Yeah. Well, I got some good guys now. T. T.S. I don't know if I really want to like get my good, good homie because I've been in that

case too many times where A, I see how they kind of don't take it serious enough because they're used to knowing me from back in the day when. I was a regular person. So in their mind, I don't, I don't require the kind of care that I actually expect at this point. Is it still difficult for you to set them boundaries? Oh, yeah. Terrible at it because I, and I've learned this over and over.

I remember I met a dude who owns a weed shop one time, and I'm talking about hanging out and partying and doing all this, this and this with all my different employees and shit. And he goes, man, I won't even fucking be in the same room with one of the employees unless there's somebody else in the room that could be a witness of whatever. happened because he's so concerned about getting sued by a motherfucker. Now, that is one thing that is good about hiring people like motherfucking Brick Baby is that, am I scared about Brick Baby suing me? I mean, not really. I don't think he moves like that, even if we did have a big ass falling out.

He's not going to. Yeah, yeah. You never know. If y'all fall out and you violate it and we got we're going to take it. Keep it real. If it's a real fallout, I, I, I, I, I am going to go But you can trust the most to not do some shyshe shit like that because they have a code of the streets, right? No, no, baby. Oh, though he's going to go the other way many times. No, baby Lane made it green for lawsuits. He was suing Tupac's estate at the time of his rest and peace to the loat. Didn't 40 Glock get beat up by game and then he sued too?

Yeah. But you see how your boy flipped it on him. It's the power of the voice, the vocals. And if he flipped it on him, but you think your boy is not going to court civilly? Come on now. he talked about swimover because all the time we just had a little royal rumble uh corporate royal rumble

amongst us in our group chat oh yeah and he said boundaries though but that's the only thing what did I say at the end when you said hey that's as a friend and we're talking formally as as a bit what did you say as a business owner or as like this is a business conversation you were like and what I said I said

you're 100% correct once you said that Is it hard for, the fact that you're so cool, is it hard for you to balance to know when he's CEO and when he's partner? Hell no. That's right. Hell not. But we have a very respectful line of communication. You know what I notice?

You are very comfortable trolling all type of people that you sit alongside. But I love the way you respect the homies. You don't troll CMAG, you don't troll the homie. And the level of trolling y'all do, you can tell us an equal agreement. And I appreciate because I see you be a beast on a gang of motherfuck. Wow, you don't be giving a fuck. I mean, listen, like, people act like my relationship with Kripak is a joke. I really got real love of Kriman.

I want nothing but the best for him. I want him to, like, be super comfortable and have his money situation be totally straight. It can be kind of challenging sometimes to figure out exactly how. What is that you see in him or saw in him that calls you be the first powerhouse to show some investment and help get him to this point? What did you see? Why are you? I went to his Instagram in the early days of, like, 2020.

or whatever, and I saw him doing all these ads for, holler at the credit doctor. You need to get your credit fish. Your credit is very important. I need Popeye's chicken. Hollar at Credit doctor. And I'm just like, what the fuck? And I'm reading his head.

I'm like, oh, hell no. Like this, I've never seen, and I've seen a lot of, like, wild-ass gang members, but I just never seen someone like that. And then, like, just he kept being funnier and funnier. The more clips I watched, I was like, I got to tap in with this dude. And that's right. And he had me a lovable person. He's so great, man.

Indeed, man, he got such a lovable personality. His charisma. You know what I really appreciate to see, though? Him on that runway doing the seat nasty. You did that Mac on my mama, mama. And I'm going to tell you, say the motherfucking pro clubs and sweatpants for your program times five, because that fly crippling look good on you, homie. Stay in that fly crippling, because that's what I told him.

Take it down a couple sizes. Is that extra large It looked good Oh, you, bro. It was real real good. But that's one of the things that people love about him is that he kind of like

only wears blue, he kind of dresses like he's still in the 90s a little bit. I actually think he should go more full Snoopy badass with it and be rocking a full, thick his suit and shit. If he had to be,

he would have to stay creased and starched and he got to keep everything's, yeah, if he's going to do that. That's a challenge. He can't go. Yeah, he can't go swap me

just, I'm out here. He too, big of a personality. He's too much of something that to be invested in for him to try to convince the world consistently that he's the dustiest version that we had to offer. You know what's popping

now? Fly Crippie. You see how he came here flamed up, jazzed up. This is how the coldest niggas look. The coldest niggas can blend to the crowd now. It ain't about standing out looking like, hey, I'm the worst. But you got them, Dale. You still got them, you see? How do you feel about it?

You still got him? How do you feel about the party crips? They have their plays. I've heard a lot about the party crips. I'm not sure exactly who qualifies. No. Okay. Well, I don't know how poker goes.

I play chess. And you have a value to each piece on the board. And the values are on an escalating scale. However, each piece is valuable. Right. So when you start off, you want every piece. No one wants to start to chuck the chess game without any of those pieces on the board. But doesn't every group aspire to become a party crip like to get to the point where you're so.

You're partying, you're not sliding, you're just having a good time, you're successful, you're in the club, whatever, right? You can party and slide. Yeah, it's different type. Yeah, it's different type of part. It's big as that function and it's party cribs. Party crib and super active cribs can be the same person.

Okay. But me personally, me being from a gang that partied a lot, shot the bear from 8-9, we have one of the most active east side party promoters that happened to be one of our homies, and that was his hustle, that was his thing. So my hood is known for partying a lot more than the act. average here.

It's always a party. He's the one that made pajama jams real popular in our culture. That's a pajama party in general? Yeah, but yeah, where you can make the bitches who necessarily wouldn't come out looking like that. You know how you can make. I'm going to translate it for Adam. Go ahead. So what he's saying is as far as it's a piece that are.

So in the game, you have your shooters, you got your drug dinners, you got your fighters, you got your punters, your quarterbacks, your wide receivers. You got every aspect. Everybody's not going to do everything. Now, the dishonorable party crips is the only time that you see these people are at the parties. And you don't see them around when the camaraderie is going on. There you go. But in another sense, the homies that don't leave the party crips are there. And if they run into some ops at that party and they end up whooping the ops and doing it.

something, that's a representation of us at going out the functions. You could be a stump down home. You're still getting at all the parties. Yeah. Because even the party cribs, once the ops diss, they're not running. No. They got to get involved with

what's going on. So it's like, you know what's like, you know what I'm saying? Party is something that black people do. Like the people that don't party, the party crypts are out there to catch the ops that's dissing in these parties that we'll never see. But me personally, let me tell you something

about my life. Like I told you, my hood is known for partying a lot. My homies party a lot, but I have a habit or a reputation, or my history is, it could be everybody on the block, mounting up, caravanning, leaving it or the go to the function.

Me and my few, you're going to hollet y'all. And we right there on the block when they come cack, you feel me? It's like, it's just not my thing, but I've been to a number of functions. We go sometime, but it's just some people like to party. Some people don't. I remember being on the

row with G unit. And shout out to her, Puto, everybody else in the click. I remember a lot of times we go to the hotel and the next move is to go to the club.

They're going to be in the VIP with Mayweather. I'm a big Mayweather fan. I never went. I'd rather go to the hotel and have some phone sex with a female back in California that we both

is where we love each other while the homies is in the VIP because I just not a go-out type dude. I'm not a partier. I don't know how to dance. I don't even know how to seewalk. I need some downtime at the end of the night. But you live a high-charged life.

I bet you have your whole day scheduled all every day. I do. Even your party time, huh? 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. I ain't doing no goddamn phone sales. Tell me his. Send me a nude. He didn't go to the party.

He went to go beat it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I might have to go beat it as well, yeah. Yeah, but I'll leave some stress. I'm talking about where everybody in the entourage is getting ready to go to the function. Some people love that shit. I'm not the person who's, like, as excited about it. Even during the part of my life where I was going out, like almost every night, it was like, I'm still like forcing myself to go out.

You know, like some people just are dying to go out. And that to me is a little fun. I don't get that. That's disgusting. The older you get, the more disgusting that looks. And you probably didn't have any pussy coming through that night. So it's like, I'm going out to go get the pussy. I got to go.

I got to us. Is this you Adam? I just want to fuck bad bitches for all the nights and never had bitches. Is that you? kind of but you think I have like a wild-ass life when in reality I do the porn thing 2 p.m., you know, 3 p.m.? Is that redundant now?

Is it not even like how we look at it? Like, you got, I just saw the plug talk banner up so I can see what happened recently. Is it just like, now that's a job? It's not exciting to you? I've had weeks ride to fuck, you know, like five new girls and it's just kind of like... I could imagine.

By the time you get to the fifth one, it just does sort of get a little like, oh, God. But then I could take like a couple days off and be back at it and be like hell yeah I'm back in it like you know it's like it is like the one thing that like kind of never gets old but I've done it so much that sometimes

it does get a little old you know it's almost like a Tom Brady in the third quarter down by 15 or down by 40 and they're not going to win I've done this before I'm going to get this check but this is not the best day at doing it sometimes it's not that day you can get kind of used to anything

tell me what are the best enhancements to make sure you're the man whenever you want to be what do you I know you fuck with something I ain't taking nothing but some coffee and some weeds you lie and mango and mango RX shout out to our sponsor Mango RX yeah you just knocking shit down for pay

you know it's like I was born I was born to do this was it was it ever a time in a 22ster's life when you never had bitches had to be I just why acting about that not this is a fly guy he's a he's a but there's definitely for sure because like when I think about the time period I have a mental image that really stuck with me.

It's because I remember like 2014, I was traveling so much all year that I would only be home like a week at a time because I was on all these BMX trips. Monster was flying me all over the world and shit, Monster Energy. And like, I'll get home from the trip. And I got, I'm in town for like four or five days.

And I'm like so horny that my dick is about to break out of my motherfucking denim. And it's like, I don't even have bitches anymore because when I'm on the road, I'm not even talking to anybody back home. Happened to me when I went on tour of Europe. I came home like, damn, my own my bitch is that. Yeah.

And when I think about that now, I'm like, damn, that's a reason to get a prostitute. Because when you really feel like you're going to shoot somebody if you don't nut, that's when it's like you got to, you know, it's probably worth the 200 bucks or whatever pussy costs these days. No, no, no, that's... Everywhere from 40 on that.

Well, I ain't fucking no $40 at all that pussy. She's going to look like you. Hey, nah. No, no, no. It's a fly 40. You wouldn't take me down, man. I like you more as a man than as a woman. If you were to become trans,

I don't know if I would be nominating you for any beauty pageants. This is that respect you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah. That's your brotherhood. Now, I'd have been around the block a couple times. I didn't call some cool forties back in the day, man. No, back in the day, but inflation causes 40 not to be what it used to be. Yeah, I mean, it's 80.

Yeah, 40 bucks now is like fucking, you know, five bucks back in the day. Like, that's a tip. Yeah, bro. They can't. That's for the LA. They're talking something for 40 right now. Hey, you remember when Ice Cube was talking about fig?

It was like, hey, but how much for head? He was talking about strawberries. Now on fig, you see the bitches that look like that ain't a fresh out of, what's out of Vogue magazine? Have you driven their fig recently? I've seen so much of it on TikTok. I don't feel like I need to go there. You driven.

Yeah. Bro. Flew a drone. No. No. Just watch that shit on TikTok. I love it. You seen the drone that was chasing on the moon?

I want to do a skit with me and Lennon where she's walking down the street in a full ho outfit and I'm posted up looking like a pimp or something. Let's go. I don't know if I want to do it on thing. I'm not just pick a random street in the valley. We had a big guy's up there. We're taking the Lombie Boulevard. That's like a baby fig. Really?

You ever been there like. Swifty Blue didn't want to bring me there the other day. Where? We was going to go to the Bluby's a little bit. tried to go to the blade. We were like, show us some prostitutes, and he couldn't really, I don't know. No, I'm going to tell you some.

I don't know. Snoopsy blue from Paramount? Yeah. I don't know much about him, but I think he from Paramount, but that's a little different distance from Lombie's Boulevard. That was just the closest stroll

that he could think of. That's the one. That's right there. He said like 10, 15 minutes away. Yep, yeah. We went in politics with some crackheads instead. Yeah. They didn't use that footage.

No, yeah. Oh, wow. because we probably look too crazy. You know, they don't like disrespect. Adam, what's your interest in celebrity boxing? You got any interest in that? I've thought about it because I'm real on the fitness grind now, and it would be fun to, like, get paid to have to get in really good shape and shit.

But then at the same time, I don't really feel like I got no hands, which I probably shouldn't be saying because, A, people are going to test me, and B, that's not going to make anybody book me for the fight. But I'm not really like, I don't look at you. I've been in the last 10 years, I've probably been in, like, two fights. And they were like 10 seconds. I don't overthinking the hands. For sure, I'm overthinking.

But I'm not looking at you as a combative. I'm looking at you as a brand and a platform that can create No Jumper Celebrity Boxing as a brand, a continuous recurring thing because you have the influence, you have the network, and you have the ability to create a platform that anybody that is willing to participate will love to get in a ring with the big ass no jump.

bumper circle on the floor and Adam be out there promoting the fight. You can afford to get, what's the boy in and say, are you ready to Wimbo? Bruce Buffer. You can create something similar to what they have in the UFC or something for our culture. Oh, my mama, mama. You can do that because you can make it prestigious. And you got all the controversy right here. A lot of controversy comes out of here.

Cartoon and 600 is boxing on my card real soon. Who you got? That's the Cartoon 5-3. guy? Yeah, he's from Avalon. Eastside Avalon. That's crazy because I didn't even know about him until I interviewed Esbone, rest of peace, and then I was asking, or wait, was it him or was it G-Face?

No, I think it was G-Face, right? Oh, he went through the whole shit with G-Face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had a whole B-B, I asked him about it, right? So I didn't even know about him before that, but I haven't, like, I don't know his measurements are like what he might look like, so I got a whole... Okay, stand up real quick, huh? Boss.

So, no, stay right there. Just imagine about 10 years older, maybe even 15 years older and just a little thicker exactly like that I watched the whole video of him talking about back in the day how he went to a restaurant and a bunch of bloods pulled up on him and pulled guns on him

and he had to fight like 10 dudes it was a crazy story anybody in the world except like what's the nigga Jillil White the only type of people that's going to see cartoon they feel like off the fuck him up oh he's a big guy what solid sturdy happy confident Look. Not.

I got nothing up funny there. What? Hey, tell me that. Come here, come here real quick. Come here real quick.

If Adam, if Adam would establish something like no jumper, you know, celebrity or just hood boxing, would you be willing to get in the ring, because I'm near. You feel me? I'm near.

Small purses to where it could be escalating. Can I do that too? Yeah. Don't act done. I did what you guys. There's two fingers in a thumb. Tell me this. Was the dude famous, rich, really mad at you?

Or was that acting, bro? Ah, you know, it's the magician's code. I don't know if I should reveal the secrets of the business. Don't do it. Don't do it. Yeah, I didn't know he's at Universal Studios. My bad. I will say, though, that while that was taking place,

I was just as confused as a lot of people who are watching it. Well, I want to salute your poise and just sitting there and not overreacting. Because I was saying when the boy threw the drink on you, you kind of jumped up and you didn't know. But this time, that's why. The only reason I question was it fake because your reaction, you know what else I noticed? 2018, you was a different dude, homie.

Why? When I sat across you like this, you kind of sat like this in your seat. And now you sit like this. You're just a whole not. Man, he's been with the lokes, no jokes. We them folks, man. They would.

I like where y'all cleaning up the compound, man. Oh, man. You see like a different person. You seem like a lot more reserved than just in the pocket and kind of like even condescending. And now you seem a little more, I don't know, confident, more.

You know the feeling when you get later in your life and you feel like you're kind of just doing like a victory lap over and over? Like I feel like I kind of accomplished enough that I feel like everything that happens to me. Every day when I look at my schedule, even if it's a little stressful, it's a little too much on the schedule or whatever. It's like, bro, I'm so fucking thankful and happy to even just be in the position to still be able to.

be able to live this life and do this kind of shit that it's kind of like i don't know i just feel like very grateful for one of i can't believe i can't believe you finish with that word because one of my phrases like oh my mama mama and keep it to google and facts over fingers that our coin is jita it's an acronym g-i-a for gratitude is the attitude no matter what we up against we maintain gratitude so i love what you're saying because yeah you got to stay grateful on my mama mama jita on my mama mama i feel you Adam on that one. I like that. Yeah.

Do you guys, when you did the episode, you didn't talk about the gay crips shit, right? Because he, we talked about it in the first one that is gone. Did you realize that before you released your gay cribs shit? Because there's no such thing as a gay crib,

but yeah, gay crib video, yeah. Before you released that, did you realize that I had interviewed Cubs on facts over feelings and kind of picked his brain on... Oh,

you had already talked about it. And we got hell of views off. He hit me like, I thought you had got that because he's like, man. He didn't get at me. He didn't get at me. I was just, because. You just as, okay. So what it was, we was talking about it right, and the interview hadn't dropped yet.

So I was talking to him, but I'm like, hey, is the interview going to come up before. And I tell him, Alex is so late. I say, it's always a delay. Don't worry about it. He's so slow. So I get into it. I'm like, because the interview will be out by now so that I can talk about it.

So we chop it up and Alex motherfucking ass goes and clips that shit immediately. I ain't gonna lie, though. I ain't gonna lie. I got Alex like, man, hey, that's the hottest shit right now. I need a clip. He like, bro, they haven't.

Alex told me like, they haven't released the whole interview. I'm like, oh, okay, I'll leave it alone. Then you see, two more clips. They made two more clips. And I text Alex, like, bro, that is released. And then he shot it to me. I'm humble. You go look at my channel.

That's still the biggest numbers I did in a long time off that clip. So Cusini, he's like, bro, why are you with you? So I thought you had got him. I'm like, yo, what's up, bro? Why are you? But yeah, it doesn't.

He kind of like put his flag down. He said he ain't really doing the clip. That's what. He was trolling in the first place. Yeah. I understood that. I understood that. I understood that.

And I understood why the homies was comfortable entertaining the conversation. Although I want to put in a disclaimer, I personally would not have done it. Right. I don't know if it was a request. I know it was a request. I know they wasn't forced to do it.

They thought about their whole manhood, their intelligence, they cripping. They did that. I wouldn't have did it. But I don't knock them for doing it because I know how big the world is. I understand. I understand what's going on.

I appreciate that they wasn't. And to the world, Adam did not put that interview. He didn't try to put us in the role. He did not do that. People would like to think that now you're manipulating them to go against their morals and principles by doing things they wouldn't normally do. And they were saying that he put a gay hoover that looked like Trillier.

They didn't figure out that he was. Did that really a connection? No, they didn't know that he was like saying he was a hoover or anything until like five minutes before they got on camera. And, yeah, no. And I have no interest in trying to fuck with the hoovers or diss the hoovers. There's like literally one hoover that I've had any kind of issues with, well, I guess two, if you want to call the White Boy,

but, you know, it's like I don't fucking have any interest in that. Did you see King Yala react to your video? which, boy, did I just ask you about? What, the gay crib thing? No, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't see it, but I saw the title, and it's just, King Yellow is another dude who's just had his brain infected by the cloud and the content

where he's just, you know, he's just looking for something new to talk about every day because he's got to be making content. And so he's taking a conversation that was kind of obviously a joke or whatever. And, like, think about what these fools are choosing to get offended by. I said that the average gang member in Chicago. Hasn't been on a plane. Does not, has not been on a plane, doesn't have enough money to get on a plane. You would say the money part.

That is not even... I was listening. You let them accuse you as saying money. You never alluded to money. All you said they had never been on a plane. Right. You never said nothing about no money. They brought that up like, oh, what you mean?

Gang, a nigger can't afford. And I remember when he asked you that, you didn't check them on, I just say he can't afford it. You just accepted that you said that. But all you said is, the average person from Chicago never been on a plane. Just like the average gangmaker from my... From first three to all of them. The average homie. Take every gang member in LA.

The saying is the first of we've been is the magic mountain. You take the average gang member in California, like how many have it been on planes? Probably 90% of them haven't been on planes. Let's be real. You see your face and how you say that as a white man. It's like I don't fuck with y'all.

Y'all ain't been on a plane. That's the product to some people. You're saying that like this. I get it. I grew up from seventh grade to 12th grade. commingling with your type and others in school and we disagree, we misunderstood each other,

we prejudge each other, which is the, you know, the base words of friends, too. Yes. I got a lot of white friends too. That average person that you're talking about that might not have been on the plane, haven't had that experience. Right. But this is my thing is that I say something, I have an opinion about something, and this happens with people in L.A., this happens

with people in Chicago, whatever. I have an opinion about something, and then people respond, and their way of reacting to it is to basically tell me that either they're going to beat me up or that someone else is going to beat me up. How many of them have actually? And exactly, my thing is do it. How many times try it? That's your question.

Just do it. Can you ask you a question? But you're not going to impress me and you're not going to win any points by telling me that somebody is going to fucking kill me. You do it. You do it. How many times has your boy declared that's the last thing that's going to happen with him in another person and it never has happened.

Who? Hold no hundred. Oh. Wow. That's all he ever talks about. Is the squabble? And how many have he had? Setto. Zito. Zilch. I know I challenge you to do,

they try to act like I'd be on the internet talking shit talking to. I challenge any nigga to find, I have a lot of talk time calculated on the internet. Find me talking about a fight that hasn't already happened. Find it. I challenge anybody. Find me talking about, come on.

Find me talking about a, I got some gifts for y'all. Oh. Thank you. You go to talk shows, the people that you get me and give? Sounds like a great idea. I hope it's the one you got on.

I thought he was going to have some peas in there. I got you, though. Here, break, baby. Take these. Take these somewhere. All I need is, oh, shit.

I want to see y'all at least in one of them at a time undesignate. I'll rock the Bay Mac merch. Shout out Bay Mac Breeze. Expedition. Shout out. Shout out of Bay Mac. And then you do Club Talk.

Somebody that you interview on Plug could wear that one time for home. You could cut it up, tied it. or not, whatever, making Cleavis show. I'm with it. Let's good. Thank you, sir.

Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. And there's, you know what? There's ownership options available in the whole situation. You dig a lot? You want us to invest. Yeah. What you never told me?

Who you got a cartoon of $600? See, I haven't seen cartoon. 600, big-ey-s-dud. I know he got a lot of experience beating the shit out of people, so I'm definitely... Does he? Well, in the boxing ring, right? I don't know about his street career, but he's done a lot of boxing matches, right? That's my brother.

I see the boxing matches. He said he started that 20 after two sparring stations. So you're a worldly man. Start doing your real mathematics. I'm not knocking the homie, but I'm talking about it projections for a fight that I'm promoting. I'm just curious because at first, when I heard 600 professional boxer,

automatically calculated a whole lot of experience with that when I gave my projection. Now that I'm more familiar with his experience, I don't know if I calculate that as much as an advantage. Sixth-O. I'm just saying. Yeah, because it's like, it's like, I mean, you know, we got to dig into. He is a professional.

He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is a professional. After two sparring sessions, has had 20 bouts. If you multiply the amount of rounds, because some of the fights that I've seen have

ended quite quick. So I'm not sure how much experience you actually want to calculate. I like you. Oh, my mama, mama. Because I thought the homie was a lot more experience with the way it sounded. Yeah. So I kind of thought he had an edge. He got a little bit more technique to work on.

I believe so. The only thing that makes me think 600 is going to handle himself well is his level of confidence. Yeah. I don't want, unless he's going to shake us or just don't show up that night,

he must have something up his sleeve that we're not aware of because he's so fucking confident. When you look at cartoon, you see whether 600 is bigger. If you look at them together and judge the energy, you see an advantage with cartoon. But 600 is like oblivious to it apparently.

Where is this taking place? I want to be there for this. You want to be there, I can have you there. Donald. You hear the name Donald. Remember that name. Donald. I'm going to introduce you all to Donald.

Okay. Can you mark this date, October 26th, the evening? Yeah, I think I'm already familiar with the date. Okay. October 26th, Orange County Fairgrounds, if you guys would be my guest. I want to love for you to be my. Yeah, but that's, but the fight not to

December. But I would love to introduce you to the people that are going to facilitate the fight on my behalf. Okay. And then the no jumper. The people that I'm going to introduce you to, they are responsible for not only a football arena league. They have a roller derby league. They have an MMA league. And they have a boxing league in Orange County in the very affluent section of Orange County. and this is the people that we're politicking right now so I would love for you have a date to be their guest in their suite on the Orange County Fairground at a session of fights on October 26th

so I'm extend that invitation to you I'm open to it for sure I'm going to do it also so while we're on the subject right and I know you don't talk about homies like that or whatever right I'll let you put me on the spot because you did this last time and got me in some but go ahead do me

Pause. Yeah, pause. This is my big brother. This is why I do cut like that, because we talk like this every day. I ask us questions. I get advice. I appreciate this.

Because iron sharp as irons. Go ahead. Because this is right. All right. I'm going to start off with, I ain't going to hold it back. I would start off with you in the position of whack. Then I'm going to go to you in the position of 6th century.

No, I'm going to do it backwards because, all right. start at 6th century. Would you, as a homie? So never. You know what I'm about to ask you? Never would.

Would you post something like that? I like the way, you know, when you vocalize that point, no. Let me say it for the fast thing. Go ahead. All right. So if you were from an area

or belonged to a record label, we're going to use record label because, you know, I mean, whatever the case is. and it had Dillings with somebody that didn't get along with somebody from your hood Even if you were to see. Broadway, F-13, Swans.

Yeah, yeah, like, but not even that. He had a personal issue with, like, damn near a big spider. Okay, okay, okay. You get what I'm saying? Like, damn near, like, you have to be, like, or one of your cousins, you get what I'm saying? Right, right, say that.

But you're doing business with him. That's cool. Everything is cool, because a man is a man, you can't tell him who to choose, whatever. Would you ever load up on the internet and team up with somebody that's not getting along with one of your homeboys and make a public post? I would never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in ever, ever, ever in my life, speak against anybody from my set section online until they speak against me. Never have, never will. And definitely not with a nigga from.

Yeah, definitely. That's a compound factor. Especially not with a red rag. You don't even have to be a red rag, but red rag definitely. Definitely. That's what I made it. And you know what the red rags won't do? They won't do it.

They won't do it. What? The da-mooz won't do it. Oh, my mama. I don't care how far they people are. They're going to handle it in privacy and decency on daytime like the serenios. Now. So, yeah.

Now, all right. Boom. Shout out the good Southsiders with the Southside. You know. Outside spreads. Wouldn't be a little without massacons. Go ahead. But now we go, if you was dealing with a group of people from a side that has,

you have a not seeing eye to eye with somebody from over there. And y'all used to be friends, right? would you put these people in a predicament to where you're releasing information that you might have talked about and you're promoting them against this dude and promoting. Like, say out from the other side,

like, would you get that involved with, like, because you're making it business, but you're not because you're shouting out a lot of people from this side. Would you... That's because of the whole technical, though. But as a music exec that you're claiming to be, and you got, you're trying to get this shit off the ground,

would you be causing controversy on that side that could possibly? I would carry myself similar to top dog. Even Birdman, Jay-Z, people of that nature. This is how you conduct yourself when you're a CEO that has a value in a market where you're trying to exploit talent for profit. Just sign the artist and niggins. It don't matter who gives the fuck, who has something to say.

Don't put nothing. You know, I'm not, I'm just giving, like, I'm not answering questions. No, but you don't realize you're talking in cold. Yeah. Only few people are going to be able to keep up with your last three minutes. I swear to God,

I don't know if you realize that. Yeah, I'm talking in cold because it don't really need to be, it don't really need to be, right. But I follow you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, like, it's really, I don't want to say no gang shit about that shit.

No, but it's the thing. It's like, it's so messy. This is the thing. What people feel to realize that's come from our culture, people that stumped down. Valid. Valid. They get caught up in the internet and forget they're on the internet, bro.

It's a lot of that going on. And that's what it is. Oh, my mama, mama. I'm so present on the internet. People just automatically assume I'm amongst that class. But I challenge anybody. Go sweep through all my shit. I don't know.

You'll be on deck. Yeah, I don't fuck around. You'd be on me. I'll fuck around. But yeah, I ain't mean that. You put you in the middle of that. But I had to have to ask. that question just to see from his

standpoint, what we you already know, bro. This is the thing. You always, no matter what type of organization you're affiliated with, you present a United Front, that's rule number one. And then you put an ex-NFL player that had gang allegations that which

fucked up a big contract in his career, you're putting him in the middle of a gang conversation and he has nothing to do with gang bang it. And it's been proved by the LAPD, and the NFL. But see, that's the homie. Right now, he's been honest with it.

He's in this moment that he didn't expect to be in, and he's playing his pieces, he's playing chess, and nobody's perfect, and if we're going to observe where he's imperfect, that might be some of his imperfections. You feel me? And he might be learning now.

He's learning in real time in front of the world because he's chosen to go. And I think that's highly influenced, by the little queer, though, bullshit bitch nigga, a whole no honey. Yeah. You feel me? You know who he's chosen to speak out quite boldly against Big U.

That shocked me. I'm not going to say he's right or wrong at this point. I know you just had a whole lot of conversation on that subject matter recently. Yeah. It's just been a gang of viral stuff going on about it, so I just addressed it. And that's all you can do is without, if we're going to be political and not take no sides,

you've got to get cuss props for, stirring it all up. Yeah, did, yeah, but not the outside of the music shit. But it's just like the music, like if you're playing in the push this artist,

that's kind of not a good look to put it in the middle of a fucking gang ward. Like, the popular case cause that Cubs beat that case is on it like a, right? Huh? The popular case that Cud's beat, that was on like a, what, right? Yeah.

Yeah, right? That was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put him together equal to 100. Yeah. So that's what shocked me that he's so vocal with being pro-that versus.

Yeah. No, no, no, no. That wasn't him. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk later. I fuck with a cut. I'm not got nothing bad to say about it. I got a dip.

I don't know if you guys want to keep talking about. I got a dip. I got to put my kid to bed. Yeah, that's right. 640. Do your shit. No, it's a great conversation. Lock it on up.

I came in at the bottom. at the end of the end of the conversation. This was our conversation, but... No, it was great. Yeah, yeah. I had a great time. No, tied in a knock. I'm ready to leave when you were ready.

Tide in a knot. Yeah, that's a good point. You know, asked with my mama when I was young, I used to be in something called Pathfinders that was like Boy Scouts, but it was co-ed and it was affiliated with the church. And I remember Brother Jones, rest in peace. You tell me you got to pee, he's like, tired in a night.

I got a pee right name, like tired in a night. And in your mind, you'd be really holding it, like he said, trying to tie it in a night. Yeah. I remember my dad always warning me to not get my dick stuck in the zipper. Bro, have you ever done it? No, and I don't know. It just seems like it would be hard to get it in there.

You've done it? You didn't wear corduroids. Just jeans, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, coming up wearing corduroids, I remember elementary school, it happened a couple times. But you learned quick, never to let it happen again. We might go through it twice. And never again will it happen. Never the skin.

It'd be the smallest amount of skin to get caught. And you're caught in this moment, you don't know if you should go up or We're down with... Night mud. You be like, oh. And you at that moment where you got to figure it out all by yourself

and you're like, oh, Franken Baines. I'm so glad we finished on something very, very important to keep everybody safe out there. Guys, be safe.

Stay away from my ops. Zipping. And don't get your dick. Yeah, remember that and something about Mary, Frank and Bean. How you get the Frank?

How did you get the beans over to Frank? All right. I got to watch Harlem Knights and something about Mary. tonight. She had jizz on her face or in her hair, right? Can I make a confession? For sure. It's starting

to feel like home here. It is. We're working on it. Let's keep building. Let's work on some shit. I'm a big fan of having conversations with this man. I appreciate you. Spider Loak, the legend himself. Shout out my man, Brick Baby. Keep him traditional alive. Everybody go cop yourself a bug of salt.

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