No Jumper - Spiffie Luciano on Boosie vs Wack, His Issues with Dejon, Ralfy Beef & More
Episode Date: February 15, 2024Spiffie Luciano talks about Dejon hating on him lol, Ralphy on LA rappers being trash, Wack, Nipsey, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! ht...tps://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON / nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT / 4874336901 Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: / 4874336901 / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: / discord Follow Adam22: / adam22 / adam22 / adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm in here today with the rap report card man himself.
Yes.
Dejan Paul.
Top of the afternoon, man.
And we're talking to my man, Spiffy Luciano.
Yeah, it is.
There it is.
Big Spiffy.
Not the little one.
I'm going to start it off with a truth bomb.
You got a hater in the building.
Oh, man.
For sure.
Why did you point to me?
I was singing your song earlier.
And he told me to shut up.
No, I said, don't do that.
I said, he was like, Spiffy R, Spiffy R, Spiffy R.
I said, stop doing the dance.
It was a dance he did with it.
Do the dance that you did.
Show on.
You know, I was just kind of.
Stop doing that.
Hey, it would be a lot of people like that being rooms behind closed doors.
They could be a, playing my song.
Cut that shit.
Oh, him.
That's him.
That's him.
That's him.
That's you, bro.
Man, he was doing this dance.
You didn't see the dance.
But if you just trust me, you didn't see the dance.
was doing a dance.
It was terrible.
Spiffy hard.
I'm trying to do something like that.
So,
Sippy Hard is the track off of
two of America's Most Wanted,
the project with Boosin.
Yeah.
Yep, absolutely.
Yeah.
How did that project come together?
Shit.
My talent, for real?
Me being so dope.
It was like,
bro, we got to do a project together.
Okay.
And we just instantly start working on it.
We was in the studio
working on his shit.
As he felt like he was done, we just start going in on my shit.
So a lot of times when a rapper signs to an artist, it's like they get one feature.
And then maybe if you blow the fuck up, you get like a couple more features.
But it feels like you have the unlimited, boosy collaboration card.
I for show, dude.
I got like 50 songs with that.
Okay.
50 songs in a stash spot.
Yeah.
And he don't mind release him whatever you record with him?
Whatever I record with him, whenever I feel like releasing something, it's all on me.
The show.
All right, let's go all the way from the beginning, though.
Where exactly are you from?
I'm from South Central L.A.
Born and raised in the Crenshaw District.
Hmm.
Yeah, I went to Crenshaw High School.
And, I don't know, what was your childhood like?
It was a little bit of background.
Yeah, my Pots was a rolling stone, you know, seen a lot in my childhood growing up due to the lifestyle he was living.
You feel me?
Like everything he had going on in the streets, sometimes it came home.
So at the early age, I've seen a lot, like, a lot of shit.
I've seen my daddy tied up.
Ties them up?
Playing with him, playing with his money, whatever it was.
I'm a youth, though.
And we used to be right there.
Tie him up.
Throw some water on him.
whipping, all type of shit.
Crazy demon shit.
He was a torturer.
He was a torture.
He was a killer.
That's crazy. Wait, really? You think that?
Do I think it? Yeah.
No, I know that.
And he's gone now so you can say that.
My pop's gone. He can say whatever.
He did what he did in the streets.
He told you?
Or you just, like, figured it out?
He ain't tell us.
Like, people around us will tell us.
You know who your daddy is?
you know what your daddy did, you know what your...
In certain situations, we didn't seen certain shit,
but not no killings, but like,
your daddy, not nothing to be played with, like, type.
Mm.
Yeah.
Did he try to get you to keep your nose clean?
I felt like so,
because one time I fucked up in school
and got in trouble for it by him,
and with him, we don't get in trouble for nothing.
Like, with my mama, we get in trouble for everything.
We're getting on punishment,
and got a stand in the corner hole books
and all type of him.
He's not letting...
none of that go on if he had home.
We could live the life we want.
We can do whatever we want in the streets.
Just don't come home with bad grades.
Yeah.
And this shit got the nerd to give me a bad grade.
If my daddy would have saw that,
the win across your shit.
Ain't this about it.
Why ain't going to go across my shit?
You got across your shit.
You got the background.
I ain't get no background.
Right, I got it backwards.
He would go in this world.
We're going to get to the grave.
But I want to ask you what music did you grow up listening to?
Like, who were some of your favorite artists
Want to come up?
Nipsey Hustle, of course.
Tupac.
I used to fuck with a lot of
Wiz Khalifa back then, like,
you know.
But, like,
that's what I was really off.
Like, Boosie, Tupac,
Knit.
Like that, yeah.
Okay.
Pock, my favorite artist.
Even if you ask me,
dead or alive,
Pock.
Right.
I was going to ask you,
what is some of your favorite Pock song
so I have that written down.
run the streets
Shorty want to be a thug
Brenda got a baby
Dear mama
You can't see me
Can't see me
That's my favorite one right there
Can't see me because he's
I see me
I see the pocket influence
Believe it or not
I definitely see the pocket influence
Going across your catalog
Artwork wise
Obviously the buried emotions
Artwork
Yeah that Ralphie stole
Let me finish my sentence
all lies on me cover that she did
you said that Ralph, you took it, but
what inspired you, before it got to that, what inspires you to do that cover
just in general for that project?
Because the value that it held
and as many songs as I had on there,
I was looking at Pock, his shit had like 30-something.
So I was going for, I went to like 23, 24.
I wanted to keep putting some, but Busy be like, man,
he wanted to put out like 10, 14 or something like that.
I'd be trying to max it.
out because I'm sitting on so much in my catalog and I don't never drop shit when I'm rapping.
Like, you know, I'll be holding on to it, my bad.
But yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
Are you familiar with what happened between him and Rafi with the whole same cover art thing?
Oh, I knew that you guys were beefing, but I didn't know exactly how it started.
You guys had the same cover art?
Similar cover art.
See, the beef didn't start there.
Right.
The beef started when I put out that tweet and said I'm the best rapper in L.A.
me and brass.
You said you, no, no, no.
You said that the only rappers that are talented in LA,
which you went blast.
What he said?
He put like a quote tweet with laughing emojis type shit.
He the first person don't want to laugh at my tweet.
But not only did he laugh, he put a paragraph.
And in it, I remember, I could remember that he said something like,
oh, I think because they went inside to Bousie, you over everybody in L.A.
And then it went from you this and that.
And then I went crazy on them.
You did.
I went crazy on me.
Below the belt.
I had to.
I felt like being a whole to say to me.
Like,
never gave me my moment or my shine.
Like, I'm always the one put on a back burner.
I'm never on your shit.
Retaining to what?
I'm posting you on.
Would you sit at these tables?
Why my face ain't popping up in the mess?
Oh, you mean the lunch table?
All type of shit you'd be doing.
I'm never a artist on your platform.
knows. So a lot of artists, especially like street artists, don't like being on my meme. So it's
nice to know that somebody would want to be on one of my memes. I'm not just a street artist.
You make street music. I make street music because that's where I came from. Okay.
My name's merging in the different lanes. I don't just make street music. Like, you got to tap all the way in my
catalog before you say that. To say that you make street music? Yeah. I didn't say you just made street music. I said you make street music. I mean, you're a rapper. Yeah.
Street music.
You kind of talk about some street stuff.
I mean...
Well, I am a rapper.
He doesn't make sure.
I mean, yeah, it's like,
you might not want to be in the same bucket,
but I mean, you're not a country singer.
Nah.
It would appear, yeah.
Well, you could call it that,
because I'm not a country singer.
I don't make jazz music.
I'm gonna give it my life.
Okay, so when did you actually start rapping?
Because I was going back trying to watch,
like, your earliest videos,
and there's, like, one with a couple million views.
from like four or five years ago.
What was your earliest stuff
that you ended up releasing?
Like in my beginning stage?
Yeah.
Like I had released this song called Papa Molly.
I was in like,
I was in high school, I think.
And you were popping Mollies?
I wasn't popping Mali's.
But it was a trend.
It was a trend for show.
And I stepped in it and I just was making a song,
Papa Mali.
And that was the first song
that ever received, the momentum it did.
Like it did like 200,000
and like that first week.
And then it was on the news because this is around the time the news was talking about Papa Molly's a bad drug.
I mean, Mali's is bad drugs and whoop.
And they put out different artists that was making songs about Mali's on the news.
Like, these are the people that got influences on people who pop in Mali's and my video popped up.
Oh, shit.
On Channel 5 News.
And you were hyped.
I was hyped.
You got to use that for marketing.
It's on YouTube.
I got a video on me screaming when they played it.
You remember the Shoreline album that had the whole.
thing about them getting arrested with the lean and yada yada, like, yeah, you got to harness that
energy when they try to fake cancel you. Was that before or was that after the Struggles project,
the first one, that came on like 2014? That was like before. Like Papa Molly was like one of my
first songs for real. Okay, okay. And then so with Struggles, you did a song with Blass and AD,
and there was a couple other features on that project. What was your life like during that time
when you made your debut project, quote-unquote? I was living in my car when I made a car when I made
that project.
Oh shit.
And I used to pull up to my boy in Three House over in like on the east side where it's
grimy, dirty.
Me, I know me.
I've been having these tattoos all my life.
And middle school, high school, I was, I've been tatted.
So when I used to go to his shit, it used to be like, damn, I don't gang bang.
So I got to still move right.
And tattoos getting banged on and popped up anyway.
Right.
You don't got a bang.
So I was living in my whip and just going to that garage, record.
songs every day. That project was record out the garage.
That's crazy. The struggles one, two, and Spiffy Luciano. And that's when the garage shit stopped.
Okay. I was going to get to that. So real quick. Struggles two, one, I'm going to ever get the struggles three?
They can. Okay. I ain't know people would still even be, but people still be in my damn now. Like, man, when you drop the struggle, I'm like, damn people, like, they're expected.
You sound a little bit more confident on struggles two than struggles one. Did you notice yourself becoming a better than
growing.
Okay, okay.
Growing, getting better in life down there.
And then when your self-title project spent for Luciano, Luciano, excuse me.
Luciano.
Luciano.
Yeah.
Okay, excuse me.
Did you, do you feel like your fans got to know you more on that project?
Was that the intention since you called, named it after yourself?
Yeah, because you felt where I was coming from.
Around that time, I had lost, like, a close friend to me, his name was CJ.
Police killed them on 100 and Naif.
We was all right there to, like, see it.
it was like the biggest thing that happened in LA on Western
and around that time he died
he was in the studio with me every day recording that project
and when he died I still had to like finish it
you feel I'm the whole project yeah the whole project
yeah um so when you say you
so you never gang bang no how'd you avoid that
by my mentality
and the way I was I was basically the one that was always the one that was
around keeping like a level head and like always just wanted something different out of life like
I seen my daddy go through what he went through with gang banging so like as I grew up I chose to go
just down a different path like I watch all my homeboys get their names and get put on though like
I was trying to convince them not to do it but everybody got their own minds did your dad specifically
tell you like not to go that route no he told me if I ever did get put on his hood
so it wouldn't have been
oh because I grew up in Crenshaw
or been from 60s or just because I hang out
with like Grito and people he'd be around
Grace or anybody else hood
it would have been his hood specifically
if it's not mine
don't go with that shit
does it ever get tricky
not having that sort of backing
as a guy in L.A?
I mean obviously it gets tricky
if you do join a gang but
does it get weird
not having that going for you when so many people go that route?
I don't know.
I feel like, like, I love and respect my homies that do it,
but I feel like a lot of go that route just for protection,
like just to have to back them or just to say,
I just couldn't be putting hands on to tell me I'm from a street sign
that was right here before my time.
You're just not doing that to me.
So if I'm around here, then there's just what it is.
and know. That's where I come from.
Everybody I know is this.
So it might look like it, but I ain't that.
Earlier, you mentioned that you were from the Creschard district.
I was going to ask you, what's the difference between, like, for you,
what's the difference between like a west side and maybe the east side or a different part of L.A.?
What's the difference from a west side and the east side?
Yeah, to you, like, from your opinion.
They might hate this one, but I feel like the west side is more cleaner.
like we're more fresher
and I'm from like the east side
my dad from the east side
Cabi Supreme was just calling me just now
talking about Crenshaw has nipped right hand man
I just feel like
the west is just the best
I don't know you feel me
I'm not shitting on no side
my daddy from the east side his hood on the east side
but it is a difference
if you're from out here you're able to look at somebody
know if they're from the west side
or the east side if you pay attention at least
could you tell
yes
I could.
Where it looked like I'm from?
Only, no, off the music, off how you rap.
And dress, just appearance, everything.
I would go crunch out of this shit, just off the music.
The way you wrap the attention to detail there.
That's something that you see in the nipsies, the doms, those type of artists.
Damn, so I'm labeled for real.
You said labeled?
Yeah.
What you mean?
Just being from that area and just you say.
It's not a bad thing.
No, it's not a bad thing.
But you're saying I sound like I'm from there.
And it's like the.
Dom looked like he put on for Limerk Park, so it just looked like I'm wanting it.
It's just more attention to detail.
I just know artists from the east side is the music will be put together a little bit more
rugged versus how you've been doing your records as of late like in previous recent years.
It's just more attention to detail, a focus that I noticed from Westside artists.
But again, it's not a bad thing or it's not a knock against the east side because sometimes
that just straight up raw sound is fire too.
Yeah, I love that.
I'm saying.
So, but yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to also ask you, I already asked you that.
You said, you told me, I don't know if you remember this,
you told me you had a joint, I'm coming with Dom Kennedy,
a joint project with Dom Kennedy.
You're allowed to say that?
You're allowed to say that.
We got enough songs to where we got that.
But I don't be knowing with Dom on.
He's in his own little world right now.
Nah, I love Dom, I fuck with Don.
We ain't doing that one.
I know, but he just be in his own little world.
I text him every once in the blue one.
moon checking on his mind. I text
him the other day and he just sent me a message. Like, send me your address.
I'm going to send you some of my merch and shit.
I like it. How did you first
link up? You went down? Through copy
Supreme. Okay, okay.
Meet your homie. Yeah.
So you,
was there ever any kind of resolution to the
Ralphie thing or where are we at on that?
It's fucking Ralphie right now.
Didn't your project it took down on streaming platforms? I remember you was
tweeting about that at some point. And that's why it's
his name was in the work when they sent it to Busy trying to get the song
took down and they were saying like, oh, if you don't have this took down in a certain amount
of days, we're going to have a whole project stripped down.
We really took the song off and my project still end up getting strapped down.
It was a song with him?
It was a song with Draco.
Oh, okay.
I think it is nowadays, if it is one song that gets flagged, they take down the whole project.
They took down my whole project and that was my out.
That wasn't my first project I dropped, like since I've been with Busy.
it was the unappreciated and Snoop got behind
everybody we all was pushing it
then this was the big project
the buried emotions with the 30 songs
and you got my shit damn
all because I got a song with Draco
those are some grimy tactics
right there if that's really how it went down
Ralphie you dirty dog
dirty dog why do you think he did
that is it because of the argument you had
or pre-existing issues
I feel like it's from the argument
I had but I feel like even if we
didn't have that argument my
Still would have got took down due to I already seen people going viral on the internet from the db's by the bags and everybody writing these stories like man my shit just keep getting took down when he dropped songs with drag everybody getting their draco songs took down so who's to say if I didn't have an argument with him my song when I got took down
it could have just been an estate thing that may be like attorneys or whoever's the custodian of that state could be the one he the one oh is him specific you know he the one his his real name was on there on the ceases of the letter that came yes okay okay yeah
So when you did that tweet where you said that you and Blas were the only talented artists in L.A., was that like your actual opinion?
Or would you say that you were exaggerating a little bit?
And you're kind of viewing like talent in a pretty narrow sense there, I'm guessing.
I'm sure there's other artists that you think have talent.
There's a lot of artists.
I feel like I got talent.
It just probably was the way I worded it, you feel me?
But I feel like still, even if I worded this wrong, let's say.
Boom, just out of nowhere
Y'all don't never pay attention
than nothing I do
Y'all not, y'all don't fuck
with nothing I do
I'm talking about the people
and these rassas
but the moment I
say something
y'all proved to me
that I got a voice
that y'all pay attention
y'all do know me
you get what I'm saying
y'all
waited till I had something
y'all felt like was negative to say
to say something to me to respond to
me. Y'all answer the DMs when I'm asking
for a song, but y'all laughing at my
tweet. You make good points.
So I'm wrong for coming crazy
when I do come crazy. Y'all don't answer
nothing. I got facts.
The tweet was still, in my
opinion, not correct, because there are other talented
artists. If you want to say you're
the most talented artists, then that's subjective,
but there are other times. I'm sure
you just admit it if there are other times.
If I went on Twitter, I'm the hardest. If I were on Twitter
tomorrow and said all these other L.A. podcast
are trash. I mean,
every other LA podcast would be fucking on my ass.
It would be shit on Adam week for sure.
And I would deserve it because it's like, you know,
that's just kind of like shitting on everybody else's hard work.
But you're not supposed to feel good about yourself?
For sure.
But if I was,
but even if I say something that's really just positive about myself,
you know,
a lot of people are going to take that in a weird way too.
But definitely like putting down everybody else
is a surefire way to piss people off
because you're kind of like,
directly insulting whatever successes they've had or how much work that they put in to their
career it was that only word i'm telling that from that tweet it was just the only if you took the
only i just felt like if you know me why you're wearing a shoe this don't got nothing to do with
nobody that's close to me i'm cool with did ever did music with family with in this music shit
this not for y'all we're on my side y'all yeah spiffy we're supposed to feel like this instead
y'all took it out of context and made it your business to say something to me.
Outside of Ralphie, who were some other artists that were offended by that tweet that came out,
well over a year ago, mind you, I want to add some context to this.
It's not a recent tweet.
This is over a year old.
But you want to, just as an aside, what he did with that tweet and the reaction he got
is like almost identical to what happened to you.
You did a whole report card, but it's like, you know, anyone who really, like,
expresses a strong opinion about
what music is good or what music is bad
in L.A. is just guaranteed to
have a whole bunch of people shitting on them for
you know like this
people are so industry now. They're so
careful with not wanting to piss people off
you know. Nonetheless, I do want to say
this is a lot more work. Right, this is
much more thought out. But I get the
parallel that you're sort of the same effect. You said your opinion
and everybody got mad. I said my opinion, everybody
got mad. That we have. That's how I feel.
That we have in common. Blast, talented
as fuck. What if I didn't
even say Blass name in that and I just put it all on me.
I'm the only talented
They would have never responded.
You don't think?
Oh, it's because you mentioned Blass.
Yes.
Oh, you're going to show this thing a little without me?
Yeah, all right.
Oh, you want to get to the psychology of the L.A. rap?
I'm not stupid, bro.
Let's, okay, so top five L.A. rappers.
Since we talk about L.A. rappers.
Let's go living.
Okay, cool.
That's a nice nuance.
That's B.
Fuck.
Let me say one name.
It's said.
It's easy to name a bunch of people who are gone.
Yeah, no, no.
Because you know I'm fin of name.
Nip.
We know them.
That's my Rushmore.
That's Bezzi.
Yeah.
I don't listen to nobody.
That's political.
Yeah, I'm asking.
That's what we're asking.
I don't really got one.
Oh, man.
Okay.
That's bad?
Yeah.
You just have a top.
Because you said not dead
And you know where I'm gonna go at with it
So if you're talking about a life
I'm really not cruising to nobody shit for real
From LA
Just me right now
I'm just listening to me every day
I'm not listening to me every day
I'm not listening to
Everybody really is trash
I guess so
They don't get played in the whip
Sorry guys
Do you agree
When you see the flakos
Of the world or all this commotion
That's been going on basically saying
LA rap is trash
LA rap makes no noise
Etcetera
Do you agree with that?
You feel like LA's down bad
in comparison to the rest of the country?
Yes, Biffie, do you?
I feel like we got our own,
like our own wave, our own path.
I feel like a lot of motherfuckers need to step it up,
but I feel like it's bunk right now.
I'm sorry.
You know, look at the camera and say this?
Niggas need to get it together.
For this one, I'm sorry.
Niggas need to get it together,
even including myself, you feel me?
I could be better at this shit
than attacking this shit
the way harder than I do
So you have made
I don't know if you've seen it
But so this guy here
Any body
Because I get into a rapper is what
Two three times a week
But every rapper I've ever got
Until you did the most creative thing ever
That for the first time ever just stump me
This guy here made a fake
Report card
It was real
He made a fake
Report card
He gave everybody 100%
10, 10, 10, 10, 10.
In every category.
Everybody got 100%.
That's why I-
Positivity.
But niggas can't say
I don't fuck with them.
I bigged up everybody in the city.
When you be bashing them and putting them down
and hurting their feelings.
You lied to them.
And making niggas want to quit music.
Everybody's 100%?
Because you get you great-nickers like we're at school.
That's how you're great-school.
That's how you're going to class no more.
I don't get F in nothing.
As soon as you put your project on iTunes,
you're opening yourself up to criticism.
And in this case, I think, you know,
he's promoting you as well.
but not to know teacher.
I'm saying.
But source had five mics,
WSL has sizes.
I have grades.
What's the...
And just because I ain't put no...
And I asked you about your report card.
Yeah, just because I ain't put
none of you niggas in my top five.
Don't mean I don't like you niggas music
or you niggas ain't tight.
I just don't have a top five.
You gave them 100%.
You gave everybody on the list 100%.
Why did you do that?
But it's a lot of people on these lists.
About the first one.
Not my...
Because you was hating on everybody.
You felt I was.
hating on everybody. You was hating on everybody. A nigga woke up with some viral shit,
talking about everybody in my DMO, you got an F, you got a F on what? What's going?
Who is this fat dude? Like, you haven't, that's how I felt then. I don't feel like that now.
How did you see me in person? I'm not that big. Genuine, you cool. And you ain't that fat.
Yeah, fit. You're something like Biggie Smalls though. Huh?
Go ahead, go ahead. No, you good. But the way you be graying niggas and degrade
I feel a lot of niggas pain, you feel
me? Because I took that shit
I took that shit personal, Adam.
When I seen that F, I was ready
to come find you. That's great.
Like, niggins stand on business about their music. We in the studio,
we work hard. So if a
Drake or a consistent JZ
would be considered an A,
you take offense to someone saying
you're here at this F level. If that's
A, if that's top of the top, that's A.
You being an F
to me isn't an insult because it's like,
Like if you look at how far you are from that in real life, it's about so.
You can work your way to that.
So I want everybody to get to that top level, but I'm saying you hear right now.
It's not permanent.
These aren't permanent grades.
Grades change twice a year.
That's how I look at it.
I wouldn't take offense to something that changes, especially if I know that there's room for me to get to a.
I'm trying to take that glass ceiling off at LA.
It's a glass ceiling that's there.
Like you just can only hit this and then it fizzles out.
I'm trying to get rid of that glass ceiling.
But certain people feel like you're keeping it there.
like with the
with the bullshit.
By telling somebody to drop more music
or to do more branding, that's keeping it in bullshit?
I think this could only motivate people, right?
Should, yeah.
I don't feel like anybody's going to look at this
and be like, damn, he thinks I'm whack.
I should just never put music out again.
Because a lot of people on this list, honestly,
already have the problem of just not fucking releasing music,
which if anything, is kind of like a big part of the problem
or at least part of why I think the music shit feels stable.
Is that like so many of these guys like, I mean, they either aren't dropping at all or they're dropping and are getting little to know attention.
Aren't promoting it.
Aren't dropping music videos for it.
Aren't doing interviews.
Aren't showing up to interviews.
It's a plet of reasons.
But bringing it back to you, we're speaking on critique.
I want to ask you.
So unappreciated was the first project you put out officially on badass music syndicate.
Correct?
Did Bousie and his team have any feedback for you?
Did they give you any notes on it?
How did they feel about that project?
They loved it.
That was actually one of my favorite projects, too.
It was simple.
It was smooth.
I think it was about six, seven songs.
Six seven songs, yeah.
And it was well put together.
Yeah.
What is it about EP's that you like?
Why is the EP the new thing?
Versus like...
Because they quit.
You ain't sitting there listening to a nigga for so long
or even got to say,
oh, I'm not going to go through the rest of this project
because it's too long.
Like, or certain people.
you would gravitate to on a different level
and really sit there and listen to everything.
But sometimes I just really can't.
If you sent me a 20 song makes tape,
I would for sure be expecting the best songs
to be within the first five.
The first five.
If it's not, I'm cutting it off.
So you prefer the EP?
For sure.
I ain't getting the song 18, realistically.
I'm dropping all EPs for the rest of the year.
I like full projects, but I gave.
I gave niggas a full project.
Niggas got my shit took down.
I'm not doing that shit again.
Well, you put like 30 songs.
That show was a lot of work.
It was a lot of work getting in contact with the producers.
It was a lot of work getting all the,
because most of the songs I'm just in there just rapping.
Gotta write all the lyrics out to have them sent to the,
it was so much to do behind that project.
And a nigga took a loss,
but I'm gonna double back with some hot shit right now.
Let me ask you this.
Did you ever have a conversation with Busy about Draco?
Yeah.
What was that like?
When I first had like really got around him, I'm like, man, so what happened with you and
Draco?
Man, I love Draco, bro.
Like, what the fuck?
He was like, man, bro, he just felt like I was doing something with his ops.
And he was like, I don't know.
I'm just getting my money.
Like respect.
You feel me?
A nigga don't know, especially Bousie, you feel me, from a whole different part of the
world.
He don't know what's going on with these L.A. politics.
He just wasn't tapped in on that.
Yeah, but Dr.
Felt some type of way and he said what he said and
And Bousie was just like man I ain't you know
He felt some type of way like damn he could have worked with him
I remember that yeah
Interesting
I think I was mad at Draco when he did that
And I didn't even have nothing to do with Bucci yet
I'm like man Bousie a real nigga bro
Because I rewatched the Trappelor Ross video that he did about
Draco recently and it kind of like convinced me
you know how he'd be putting all the pieces of the puzzle together.
It kind of sort of convinced me that Bousie did do that song intentionally to get at Drakow.
But I forget why.
I thought that was before he said anything about Drake.
Before he had an issue with Dreyko, Bousie did that feature.
I think that's why it happened, right?
Or do I have my timeline wrong?
Yeah, it's all kind of a blur.
It wasn't really cool.
I think.
Which one happened first?
Did the collab happen first or the interview happened first when he didn't know who Drako?
He said he didn't know who Dreyko.
The collab happened first.
The collab happened first.
Okay, yeah.
Well, when he said he don't know who Draco was, like with the Drake feature or some shit?
I don't know.
Did Vlad ask him at some point?
Yeah, it was Vlad.
It was a Vlad interview.
I don't remember.
I think I texted Vlad at one point and asked him, hey, next time you interview Busy,
ask him how he feels about Drakeo doing a song called I just did some shit or beat some shit that out of Toplow Busy.
But then I don't think Vlad ever actually asked him it, so I'm not sure.
Damn.
That's a good messy question, right?
That is.
How did you first link with Draco?
Like, what's your relationship?
What was your relationship like?
Shit, when he got out of jail, I was kind of like booming a little bit.
Like, and he's seen what was going on.
So we used to dim each other back to back, like, just a comment on each other's stories.
Like, when I posted all my jury or my money or something, he'd be like, that's a lot of shit on the table.
Like, shit like that.
And I used to be like, nigger, let's do a song.
Nick, let's do a, ooh.
Like, and he used to be like, me, for show.
So I used to kick back and just.
wait my turn, you feel me?
And it came around.
Okay.
How did you end up with a fake Italian last name?
Because rappers used to do that shit a lot,
but you don't see it as much anymore.
Everything used to be like some lacosa nostra-ass shit.
I love it.
I love my fiance rap.
I like that type of stuff.
I just felt like it sounded good with Spiffy, Spiffy Luciano.
I got a question, though.
How you feel about Luciano being attached to my name?
I'm not against it.
Oh, okay.
It's interesting, it's memorable.
Okay.
It's safe to assume that it's like a street type of lane, though, because it's gangster.
He was a gangster.
Spiffy Luciano.
You would assume that that person makes street music.
So, like, if you say, like, the pop appeal to it, maybe not so much, but as far as a solidified street rapper, gangster rapper was making gangsta music, it's a perfect name.
Crossover, Spiffy is fine.
You feel me?
for sure that's what I'm saying
now it is it would be
if you're picking a rap name you'd be like
Y HN Spiffy
Oh
Like some random acronym
Some random shit
I hate that
I didn't want to be none of that either
I didn't want to be little spiffy
I'd rather be big spiffy
Okay
That's what I'd really rather go by
Big Spiffy
Okay
But you know
You said that on the opening of your recent song
To the summertime in that
Elcat
Record
That's my favorite song right now, too.
Okay.
And that's going to be on the new project that's coming out?
That's going to be.
The one I got coming out right now is just to throw off why I'm going to put this dope-ass album out.
So one of the ones?
It's about to be on that one.
It's going to be on the one after this one that's coming out February 20.
Yeah.
And that's an EP, I'm assuming.
That's an EP.
And then you said you work on the album.
Yeah, I got to, yeah.
It's damn near done.
I just got to finish like two, three verses on my songs.
And you really do no features on there like that.
From your perspective, when it comes to promoting your music, what actually works?
What moves the needle?
In terms of, like, obviously, you can make music, but then getting your shit out there.
Because it's a challenge these days.
Shit, I still do it the old-fashioned way.
Like, I come from the era.
I was bouncing out, stamping my shit all down Hollywood, with the stapler, going to get big posters.
I'm going to still do that.
Like, when you see that project come out on the 20th, you're going to see that shit.
everywhere and that's just going to be me hands on doing it while i'm out here for these next few days i'm
gonna do it myself okay so i feel like the old-fashioned way because just posting it on instagram
it ain't going nowhere you feel me if a nigga don't got a real team a management and a back in there
or signed to a real label you getting it out the mud like me i'm signed to a real street nigga you feel
me we still independent so my shit just off the off the muscle like when i'm putting my shit out it's
just me. So whatever numbers
I accumulate, it's off of either
the fan base I've been had and what's growing
from whoever talking about it and what I'm
doing. Two things, real quick, suspect,
which camera is mine? Suspect,
you heard how he said how he's signed to a label
but he's still independent because
you can be on an independent label and still
be considered an independent artist because you're
independent of any major label system.
We got a whole debate about that. He feels like any right who
signed to any label is no longer independent.
And I don't agree with that.
Especially something like boozy. No, we still independent.
You're independent artist too.
He's still screaming now.
We independent with this shit.
We're in the mud.
All right.
And then secondly, I was going to say that you did a song called Free the Boy.
Yeah, Free My name is The Boy, man.
I have that written.
What's your relationship?
The boy's locked up?
Yeah, he's locked up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's been locked up for like, probably like, what, six, seven months now, Johnny?
Oh, okay.
Almost a year.
Shit.
How long have you known him?
I've been knowing him for, probably like, seven, eight years now.
Okay.
And I met him through his big brother, my nigga Lowe.
They front of bay.
Okay.
And they all been linked in with each other, and he started bringing them around,
like bringing them to studio sessions and shit like that.
We cling like that.
And he ended up taking me on tour with him and all that.
I forever, that's why you see what I'm doing what I'm doing.
Yeah.
And I took me on my first tour.
Really?
Yep.
And it was around the time, like,
Like nip candlelight and his, uh, we went on tour and like the whole sack, like the whole
bay.
Okay.
Yeah, all that.
Like, we hit all that.
And they let me open up every show.
Shows of the boy.
Shots to S.
Yeah.
R.
So you recently, uh, what?
You made some waves recently speaking out against Wack 100.
Shout out to SOP.
I don't know.
I don't know the damn difficult.
How, uh, how do you feel about Wack?
You kind of, you took it.
on for Busy when they were going back and forth over this BG thing right?
Wack 100. I don't, I don't too much care for the BG thing. I don't even really know what
happened with that, but when he said the things he said about Boosy, like, oh, I'm going to slap
them and do all these, you know, I'm going to violate you and all that. And I'll be with them
every day. I'm not just going to let you violate him. And so it all really stem from the
shit he was doing and talking about with Nipsey. So I already had.
anger built up towards him so when he came out with that boosy shit and them threats that's when
i'm like fucking i'm gonna get it i gotta say something i'm not just gonna keep sitting here and
letting you attack everything around me and anything i'm involved in i'm on that too so you really
think you could wash whack in a fight for show really whack couldn't fuck with me on this bad day
you think so i don't know whack just the devil that niggas i just the devil that niggas just the
The devil had him.
That's a lot.
That's the devil's child.
Really?
You think he's possessed?
Pure fucking evil.
Pure evil.
Wow.
If you think it was something.
He does love chaos.
If you think it was something out right now.
Yeah, exactly.
He loved chaos.
He loved bullshit.
He loved putting people down.
He loved just torment motherfuckers.
When you had a nigga like Nipsey, that just loved people, was genuine, help people,
had a good heart.
This was a good soul.
You feel me?
And then you got a bullshit nigga like this.
That's just still, you feel me here.
I'd rather have.
nip let's swap him out to be fair he didn't uh he didn't like go out of his way to start saying that
stuff about nip that was like leaked by hasan campbell who recorded their phone call
although he was already saying the stuff about nip not being a legend yeah i actually just
seen some old footage i can see some i seen him an old i just seen some old footage of him saying
of a cameraman asking him hey how you feel about the rapper nipsy huss you feel like he's a legend
no he's not a legend i never even seen that one like it was multiple shit just leading up to that
just like you and then the new shit he just said about nipsy all the weird shit that just did
it for me you know what the newer things aside his original opinion of nipsy not being a legend
i totally disagree with that i disagree what are some of your favorite like nipsy moments because
i know that you had a personal when he slapped the fuck out a dude at the bt awards same shit we had
do to whack 100 he keep playing with us that was a left day they called it a victory slap i remember
yeah at the pre-show you want one of them
after he performed.
But so Wack predicted that Bucy was going to come around and be on his side in regards to the BG thing.
So what if Wack and BG, Wack and Bucy end up being cool?
And then meanwhile, you still have these issues with Wack.
You said, what if who would be cool with Wack?
What if Wack and Boosie end up being cool with him?
That would never happen.
Never?
Come on.
Really?
You think that's going to happen?
Wack was talking about it like Bucy was going to come around to see his side.
He's not going to come around.
You already made.
threats. You talked about a
nigga bad. You called a nigga out his name and said what you're going to do to him.
Say what you going to do to me. You think he's going to be cool with you after that?
You think I'm going to be cool with that?
I don't know. People can always squash it, right?
Give us a million. We'll squash it.
A million.
Yeah, you talk bad about nip. We ain't going to keep putting up with that.
At least you got a price. Did you show Adam, or would you mind showing Adam the single cover?
Do you want me to show him for the summertime?
Yeah, I got it right here for you.
Okay. Have you seen it?
Oh, my cover?
The single we were just talking about.
Oh, what?
I was going to show him where I got it from.
Oh, you pull that up for me, please.
And you show him the inspiration.
Yeah, I got you.
I'm about the next to this post right after this.
We can put them in the video.
Okay.
What is it?
He dropped the song that we were just talking about summertime.
Oh, okay.
And I just thought the artwork was crazy.
Then he showed me where he got it from.
So that's him when it decapitated whack wandering.
Oh, Lord, that is a...
And then he said it was from a...
You got the inspiration from a game cover or something.
right game except cover wow so this that's the original i'm sure wax gonna have a couple hours
of clubhouse content about this gee you not oh man
good old days that photo did bring up memories that's crazy so you'd really want to decapitate
whack 100 yeah man he feel like he the biggest he feel like he the bully like i feel like one thing
my pops always told me what uh adam is ain't ain't no man bigger than no bully and one thing i heard him
tell you was
what if, yeah, I did see him saying
what if Bousie start, you know,
not coming around, but just like, you know,
and you still got to be around us and you got to be in L.A.
He said, niggas die in their city.
What's that supposed to mean?
I mean, he's probably making a vague
threat, but something could happen to you, right?
Right, and nothing going to ever happen to me.
I'm going to let us see a hundred years.
I'm out of led these niggas for show.
For two,
you ain't going to do nothing to me.
You ain't slapping nothing on my face
Any niggas
Any niggas slap my face
Nigger mama's gonna be crying for show
I'm not taking no slap
Slaps like I'm not taking nobody
Doing nothing to me bro
I don't know what's up with Wack 100
And all them threats like
Well I'll relay the message
For sure
While Adam does that I was gonna ask you about
Not right now
You collaborated with Grito
On the Big Dog remix
How did that collaboration come about?
That was like
Grito just got out of jail
He was probably like four five days out
Okay
And me and Boosie was in the studio
Recording it
And like
I just DM Grito
I'm like, nigga I got a song for you to jump on
He ain't know it was gonna be Boosie or nothing
He just said send it
I sent that motherfucker
He sent that motherfucker back in like two, three hours
I ain't even know it was in my email
He ain't even tell me he sent it back or nothing
Just sent it just sent it
I'm waiting hours
End of the day
I'm hitting him
I hit him
I'm like you did that
He said I've been sent that to your email
I checked the email
It was hours later sent
That's how he works though
He is one of my most
Because of the same artist working artists
Or I got a fat question
Because I am ready for a snack
If there was a spiffy
Luciano burger
From like your favorite hood spot
I really don't know
What your favorite hood spot is
But imagine that place
If there was a burger
named after you there
What would be on this burger?
What would beione?
Yes, like what's the Spiffy Luciano burger?
If some people can go order that burger.
It had jalapinos on that motherfucker.
All right, that's enough.
My last question is...
I'm playing it.
I'm playing.
Just jalapinos.
I love alipinos.
I do.
I don't...
I don't typically get them on my burger, but...
That's too spicy.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, when they're spicy as fuck, I don't like it.
Hell no.
My bad.
Halapinos.
What else?
What else?
What cheese?
shit, barbecue sauce.
Heartburn burger.
I have acid reflux.
You might like,
you might fuck with that.
You might fuck with that.
Take the jalapinos off.
I'm gonna put some lettuce and some onions on there.
I'm a big fan of onions.
Now you want to do vegetables for more vegetables.
I don't fuck with tomatoes, though.
Really?
Same.
Yeah, hell no.
When I was like,
I think I was like 10,
my daddy made me eat a whole onion.
Why?
And it,
and it,
a whole onion, bro.
And it burned.
my whole mouth, my face, my insides, everything was just hot and burning.
I'm a little boy running around the house.
Daddy, this shit is, I don't know what the fuck.
He's like, fuck, he was hurt.
Why?
Because he don't like to see his kids hurt or go through nothing.
And he knows that shit was really hurting me.
It was like, why did he make you eat the onion?
All right, he used to do this shit.
My daddy was like the daredevil.
Like, he was the, I'm telling him he was a demon baby.
He used to be bored in the house.
Like, my daddy got a shitload of kids.
You feel me?
I got like 15 brothers.
and sisters. And he used to be like,
eight of me and my brothers, like,
in the house at a time. Like,
we never want to be at our mama. We always
at his shit, like, because we get to go outside,
ride the mini bikes, go outside, put
the boxing gloves on, beat up the neighbors, and do
all type of shit to them. And he just let us do
whatever, run wild. So we didn't
fuck with Mama House. So
he used to play games with us,
because he used to thug it in the house with us, selling dope
out the side of the window.
Fucking with the kids. Like, he
one thing he was was a daddy. That
was a killer but he was a daddy
at the same time. So he used
to play games with us. He used to have a bunch
of money all the time. He used to take
a thousand like, I'm going to put this thousand under
this cup. I'm going to put
a raw egg under this cup.
I'm going to put some raw oatmeal with
hot sauce under this cup.
And I'm going to put a whole onion under this cup.
So he used to play the hood fear
factor. Right. That's what that's called.
And guess what cup I picked?
Who got the thousand?
And guess what happened to you if you don't
Do nothing that's right there.
But if you would have won this thousand,
you would have won this thousand
and been running around the house like you rich.
Right.
I have to eat the onion.
And if you didn't, the whole house is all boys,
all big niggas, all my brother's big,
and you get fucked up by the whole house.
He tie you up and they just get the punch on you.
Hogtie?
Yeah, hog tie.
Don't nobody want to go through that.
You're remembering it with a smile on your face,
but this is kind of deranged.
That's a lot.
That's fun, bro.
That shit made us...
That shit made us tough.
Like, so I eat the onion.
I'm burning the death.
He's going to tell one of his girls and go,
go run the, go run some cold water in the tub.
They threw me in the tub.
I'm in there, and it's making it worse.
The water was making it hotter.
Oh, boy.
Oh, they was from to run me to the hospital.
I'm like, no, I'm good.
I'm just going, you feel me?
And just in due time, it just wore out.
But just it took hours, bro.
Never eat a raw onion.
Never eat a whole onion, bro.
I did it and I love onions.
I had a friend who there was some kind of dare situation going and he ate like a whole
tube of toothpaste and ended up in the hospital.
Fluoride overdose.
Yeah, I think he only got like halfway through it and he was fucked up and had to go to hospital.
One of the cups was some bleach too.
And what you have to do with the bleach, Smithy?
Nobody, nobody picked that cup.
Just coincidentally.
One of my brothers picked the oatmeal with the high sauce and he had to eat that shit like that.
A nigga like, ugh.
Hey, I just learned a new word, so I'm going to ask you if you identify with it.
Are you a tuna?
The fuck is that?
Like the fish?
A turnt-up non-affiliate.
Shit.
Something like that.
I was watching a jail video and I heard that.
I mean, if that's what you want to call it, I'm just, I'm not the type of nigga that
just take from niggas like, where you from?
I don't take to that.
Like, I'm liable to going across your jaw.
If I got a burner on me, I'm going to hit you with it or do something.
I'm like I don't like being asked why I'm from, bro.
So being a non-affiliate is it's kind of tough.
It's tough being a gang member and your name being called and you got to go answer or you do some weird shit or you got to go get DP to something.
I don't got to answer to none of that.
You feel me?
I'm my own man.
So a nigger never know how I'm moving or going to approach them.
You feel me?
I don't got to answer the niggas.
You can't call around and ask about me.
You feel me?
You could call niggas and niggas and tell you this and that.
People will give you stories from nate the time with you and the niggas, niggas not knowing what I'm doing or what I'm going.
do to you or none of that, you feel me?
Because I move on my own.
I agree with you when you say it's annoying to be asked
where you're from. I don't like it. One of the least
favorite questions. I don't fuck with that shit.
That shit is annoying. On my daddy I don't. I don't look.
Nigger asked me why I'm from, I might slap you.
Imagine if you had to say New Hampshire.
And then explain what
New Hampshire is. Usually, because
most people don't really know.
I don't ask me is where they're from.
Because some non-affilius ain't going for
nothing, you feel me? You got some not
affiliates that's harder than gang members.
you think you super hard because you gang bang
any nigga could bust their gun and squabble
any nigga could fight
any nigga could pull that shit out of
end your life at a certain age
is just a disrespectful question in my opinion
it's disrespect especially if you ask an older person
like say you ask the nigga as well as 30
you ask me this
why are you asking me this
because if I say the wrong thing
you're going to harm me
I take I take it as you're going to do something to me
when you asking me this so fuck it let me do something first
or let me just go crazy like
I don't gang bang, so don't ask me that.
Never care for that question.
Shifting it back to the studio or
Bousie or music.
What's your favorite, like, in-studio
moment with Bucie ever?
Well, sitting in the studio making
Spiffy hard.
Don't bring it up again.
Spiffy hard. He's sitting at the desk
and the B came on.
Oh, and this around the time,
I'm going through that bullshit with Ralphie
in the whole L.A.
He's seen the shit
blow by storm all over Twitter
and I pull up the bussy house
I'm walking in he said man what the fuck going on
I see that shit like I'm like man
they ain't home me big dog look when I'm on these knickers
I'm showing them all the shit I'm coming at niggins
and he's like yeah watch this
he getting the studio to beat came on
he looking at me
he was like you see how it come on
what up West Coast it's time for all these niggas to come together
he basically was trying to say nigga fuck that bullshit
niggas gonna come together and he like
nigga, niggas,
sniffy hard,
nigga and y'all gonna know this.
Oh, no, no.
And he and that bitch screaming,
Spiffy, Liljian,
I'm back there crying,
laughing because he's serious
and it was hard, though.
And it was dope.
I went in there and I gassed up.
He couldn't fucking believe it.
He really screaming in that bitch,
this nigga hard.
This nigga spiffy hard.
And everybody in the studio
pulling their hair out.
I'm really nice.
Yeah, because I know you were
pretty hyped when me and Dejohn
and a couple of other people
on stream and I think I said
something like what if
or like Bucy's going to look
like a total genius if Spiffy
blows up and he was the one
who recognized him as like
a non-L.A. person
recognizing you before
almost anybody else.
That shit made my day.
I'm gonna just keep it all the way
whack one minute.
Oh shit.
That shit made my day.
I'm like, what the fuck? I couldn't believe.
I see
you have to
you feel me
put niggas on their shit
when they're getting out of line
and out of pocket
when they're speaking
on Big Spiffy
stop pointing at me
you feel me
He was hating on you
He was hating
How was I hate me?
I said I like that
something with that feet
down
When Spiffy blow up
He gonna look like a
motherfucking gipsy
gonna look like a
motherfucking genius
And y'all gonna all look
crazy
y'all gonna all be
looking stupid
because then I ain't
gonna be fucking with some niggas
It's gonna be fucking
They're gonna be
stupid
They gonna be you too
No I'm
spotting real talent. I spot your talent,
put you on the list, and saying that this talent
can get way better.
When Adam did that, my brother, call
me. He's like, hey, bro, you seen that shit?
Why? That nigga, Adam, fuck with you?
I'm like, I don't fuck with me, nigga.
He's like, yes, he do.
Like, remember when I seen you at that creator's party,
and I walked up to you and I gave you all that fucking weed.
With the white shit on the...
With that white shit on that.
For that frosted weed? Yeah.
I'm like, Adam, why you don't
fuck with me? You like, I fuck
with you. You came on the show multiple times.
I'm like, I ain't never sat and had my solo
with you, I fuck with you, Adam.
And he was like, I fuck with you.
Even now I had to bring a hater as a co-host.
On me, you brought a hating-ass
nigga on here with me to sit and have a good conversation
with two civilized people.
Right.
I'm civilized two, three civilized motherfuckers.
Go ahead, man.
And motherfucker, I'm like, man, why you don't fuck him?
You're like, I fuck with you.
And I'm letting him look why in a guy?
So, wait, I know you consider yourself underrated.
I would agree.
Like, I think you're a better rapper than the
numbers would suggest or whatever.
What do you think is holding you back?
Great question.
What are the fans not seeing?
I don't know if it's the fans or is it these rap niggas.
You feel me?
I don't know if it's hate going on behind closed doors.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what's the niche and what I need to hit on.
Because I got it.
I got it.
You know I'm hard as a motherfucker.
That don't mean shit.
I'm asking, okay, you talking about, he asked you what's holding you back.
What's holding me back is hating ass niggas.
You looking outward.
I'm going to ask you to look inward.
I'm going to ask you to look inward now.
He asked you that question.
I'm putting a part to on it.
I'm asking you to look inwardly, self-reflect.
Not the DJs, the media, the blog, the fans, XYZ.
What can spiffy?
What can't be.
Standing on business.
I'm asking you.
So it's not them?
I'm not saying it's not them.
I'm asking you, person to person right now to reflect internally and tell me
something that Spiffy could be doing better
for Spiffy's rap career. I'm not
saying it. Yeah, you turned that shit all the way
around. Yeah. What I
could be doing better is
I'm not consistent.
I could put that on the table. You feel
me? I got my days. Nick, I live a real life.
I go through real street shit.
I go through real life shit, real family shit.
Like, I'm really behind the scenes
building my life and trying to keep shit
in order. And when shit falling down, I'm
the only person there to pick it up. Okay.
You feel? So,
I don't got it. I don't
got a shit load of people around me for help or I don't got nobody to look too like,
oh, I need this and that.
Like, I'm standing strong on my own.
So sometimes the music got to get put on pause when I don't want it to.
And to that, I would say it's now on your team.
Now that you put this out here and it's on camera, it's on your team to make sure that
you comfortable enough where your priority can be the music.
Right.
They have to make your life, your team and the label and all that have to make your life
comfortable enough.
when Spiffy wakes up, he's focused on being the best MC
on the West Coast or in America or whatever your goal is.
Right.
So currently I'm building a team.
I need management.
I need these type of shit around me so this shit can really crack off the way
it need to.
Until then, I'm thugging it.
But I'm pushing.
But I feel like I could be more consistent.
I feel like I could be more open to, you know,
fucking with certain rappers and doing songs with people.
Collabs.
You feel me?
I really want to do that.
I don't I'm not here to shit on nobody
I want to work with a lot of people in LA
Like
But right now I'm really locked in on self
Because I put myself back too much
So I'm locked in on my vision
And what I'm really trying to do
If I continue to keep watching everybody else
I'd be still stuck in one place
You feel me
I see what's going on
I see niggas dropping shit
I see everything that's going on
I see a lot of motherfuckers that's more inconsistent than me
I feel like I'm doing a great job
But I can be doing that
one and amazing one. Five is right in the middle.
Yeah. You feel me? That's what, five
are consisting because you are putting out the EPs.
Right, I'm dropping. Two of America's most
But I don't feel like enough platforms is pushing me.
Okay. I don't wake up on blogs.
I don't wake up, oh,
even if it's negative.
I don't wake up on shit. Like, I don't hit the
Shade Room more than six, seven times,
more than any nigga in LA. I haven't been on the Shade Room.
Now, no jumper.
Say cheese.
I haven't been on all that shit, but I don't feel like
nobody really out there like, oh, this nigga
hard eating nightlights, we'd be pushing them.
This is somebody we want to see
up there in that light light. What's your
publicist name? What's your PR's name?
I don't got none of that yet. That's that person's job.
That person supposed to wake up every day and be
dedicated to making sure that platforms are posting
and talking about Spiffy, that Spiffy
has public opportunities
and those eyes on them. That's something that you
also got to work on. I can recommend a few.
Talley Spencer, Cammy Johnson.
The publicist up here, Miss Laura,
is a publicist.
Oh, Laura.
Yeah, so that's a role.
You feel me?
You are in the worst position, bro, for real.
You have the makings of all the makers of a great MC
and a dominant presence and an asset to the West Coast.
It's just some fine-tuning, I feel like.
Like, really, just some fine-tuning.
Like, in six months to a year,
you could be in that top five conversation,
West Coast or top team.
I feel like I really am.
You feel me?
Yeah.
I feel like once motherfuckers really see me
and really start taking a liking into me
and want to cling to me
and really help my career,
then people are just going to come.
along as this shit go you feel me uh real quick uh blick down or shoot it out as far as which song
shoot it out shoot it out okay why i like both but i want your opinion why you like blick down yeah i like both
songs i would have never guessed that yeah i like both good looking uh i like shoot it out because i put my
heart and my soul into that okay and um i got my favorite rapper on that i got my favorite rapper on that
motherfucker.
Right, right.
And that song
made me feel good.
Like, you feel
me?
All my songs
make me feel good,
but, you know,
lonely
Drakeo,
blicked down one of my
favorite songs, too,
because I never would
have thought I
ended up with a
Draco feature,
you feel me?
Some niggas
don't take time
out their life
to do shit like that,
you feel me?
Like,
you know,
and charge you for that
for you guys
a lag on you.
Nah,
it came with a different
kind of price.
Okay.
Ooh, creepy.
Nah,
nothing like that.
No,
No ditty.
Niggas no.
If niggas know, then niggas know.
You feel me?
It was a trade for a trade.
What about Ice Cube or Snoop Dog?
Snoop Dog.
Okay.
Why did you?
Don't get it fucked up.
I fuck with Ice Cube.
You can fuck with both.
It's just the ultimate pick.
The ultimate pick Snoop Dog, that's un.
Why'd you a tiger?
Shit.
If I had a bottle, you can take a shot and take both.
I don't have a bottle.
It just hits you with the,
For pause.
You said, say,
Bo.
Why'd you attack?
All right, neither.
Okay.
Boosey badass or Snoopy badass?
Boosey badass.
Who the fucking Snoopy badass?
No, don't start.
That's gonna be for old-
And why is he not on this list?
This is his favorite rapper.
Don't, why did you bring him up, man?
Don't bring him.
I'm going hard for my artist.
Oh, man.
Oh, you got an artist?
Yeah.
Snoopy badass?
That's my homie.
You're going to hear about this shit.
Oh, damn, damn.
Oh.
Be hard?
Yeah.
Snoopy hard.
Yeah, Snoopy Hart.
No, I ain't no nigga like me.
It ain't no nigga like me.
Did you remix?
The nigga ain't harder than me.
The nigga ain't harder than me.
I mean, you don't know what you just did just now.
Chris Sean Victory.
I don't know what he's talking about.
He said he got an artist's name Snoopy Badass.
Stop saying that name.
What if we do a no jumper track?
And you guys...
You think you would wash him if I put together a track with both you?
I'll watch any nigger.
I don't know who you're talking about, but I'll watch any nigga.
Any nigga on this report card, I'm outwrapping him.
it's no it's no it's no it's no it's the game is on this report card
I'm out rapping the game
Westside boogie is on this report card
and this ain't got nothing to do with the ones who ain't really rapping
I know how to do this shit but I'm out I'm some wrapping circles
around this report card
I like this idea for sure
we'll find a beat that you both agree on
and then you both do a performance
at the no jumber store we'll put them on YouTube
and we'll see what what people say who
Snoopy badass
my friend or whoever
whoever that is
whoever you want to bring
I'm outwrapping them
you do that
and I spin a block on it
then what
then you're ready for the next contender
all right bet
trying to make this a tournament
I like that
Dr. Dre or DJ Quick
DJ quick
why if you don't mind me asking
I don't think Dre fuck with niggas
he left the West for dead
you feel
yeah man
I'm not mad at
that line and thinking you might be on to something
did I ask you Chris Shaw at Victory lap already
no you ain't asked me that
okay now I'm asking that
Dre must be in his own head
a billion dollars
to put you there to live in his own head
to be that great musically and to have put
out like fucking pretty close to
nothing over like the past 10 15
20 years whatever I mean it's pretty wild
but we watch that movie and we watch
what you come from and if that's real
my nigga you're
you one of us you feel me you need to tap
Been really into the whole West Coast, nigga?
Yeah, do it again.
Why we all can't have a beat by Dre?
I agree.
Why are you trying to kick back and just let that legendary shit just go on for yourself and just
don't do nothing else?
Like, tripping.
You're talking about the same person that watched his brother, his own little brother,
sit and sleep on floors and couches and...
Couches.
You feel me, shit like that while he was on tour.
Oh, he was on tour.
Selling millions of records.
No brother died while he was on tour.
I'm talking about Warren G.
I wasn't talking about his brother that passed.
I wouldn't speak on anyone's damn relative.
I'm talking about Warren G being his little brother
and was sleeping on couches and left behind.
He wasn't on death row.
He left him.
He couldn't even come on tour.
He went to the airport and he told him to turn around.
Like, you're not coming with that.
I feel like Dre has always been selfish.
I never really saw Dre as a real anchor.
I'm saying, I ain't speaking like on because of his brother, day.
I'm saying real shit.
Didn't happen to you like a real nigga like us.
You was right there with them niggas when they went through all that fucked up shit
with Shug and whoever.
The nigger EZEZ was dealing with.
you're supposed to be on some shit with us like
because we looked up to you
we looked up to that movie we looked up to your role
we look up to the shit that you did the shit you accomplished
why you don't want to fuck with us did dr dr dr dr drey
abandon the west coat why he didn't fuck with nip this is it
why he didn't fuck with nitt until after nipsey passed
then they do the diamond mine record together i said this you see how nip felt
yeah he said it in a couple songs only nigg made out oh why did he say
i'm the only nigga to make out the west without dr
I feel like Nipsey made a bar like that before, too.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Blas, Abino.
Blass.
Good Kid, Mads City or My Crazy Life?
Good Kid, Mass City.
I disagree with you, dear.
Wait, run that back?
Good Kid, Mad City or My Crazy Life.
YG's debut album.
Good Kid, Mad City.
I disagree with you there.
My Crazy Life is my favorite rap album ever, period.
Don't shoot.
Don't shoot.
Dead homies don't shoot.
Uh, greet on Kaylin.
For real, for real.
I'm going to have to go with Kalin, bro.
And why is that?
Because that's my cousin.
That's your real cousin?
Yeah, and I don't go against the grain.
You feel me?
We had our little conflict due to my viral tweet.
Uh-huh.
We had a big back and forth.
I didn't see that.
You didn't see that?
I didn't see you and Kaylin get into.
I swear.
That was the biggest back and forth than with Ralphie.
I didn't see that, bro.
Kaylin actually went live.
And I don't...
Your cousin, Kailin?
Yeah, and he went live with T.Rill.
Up here?
No, there.
No.
Wherever they was.
He went live with T.Rail.
I didn't see this.
And T.R.L. was DMing me.
Hey, Kailen go live.
Join us.
They already had a plot going on.
With your cousin?
With my cousin.
So I'm like, what the fuck?
You know, when hell of people tagging you in alive,
it's all in your motherfucking notifications.
So that's all I see is my name and notifications.
I'm like, what the fuck?
The motherfucker is tagging me.
They on there talking about me or something.
So I click it, and it's him and T-Rail, and they requested me to join the live.
I joined it live.
He's coming at me.
I'm thinking this is going to be about the tweet, and it's just, he actually saying, like,
why you feel like you're the only talented?
I feel your pain.
I didn't know certain people was going to take the tweet out of context
because we like, you know,
we know each of this didn't have nothing to do with.
But you write the word talented,
maybe had people in a shambles.
But yeah, yeah, but that,
for that to be your cousin,
I still wouldn't think he would think
he was talking about him, but.
Yeah, right, I'm not talking about,
I wasn't talking about him.
Not most of these niggas I wanted to talk about,
but I get on a live with them
and they just, like, you know,
coming at me, Tirel laughing,
and Kaelin's just saying what he's saying,
I'm saying what I'm saying.
I said what I said.
You feel me?
Ooh, you take it the way.
took it. Why are you wearing a shoe? Ain't you my cousin?
I said that on the live. Now everybody in there
old, hey cousin, they're cousin. He was like
yeah. So I feel like I'm your cousin.
Why you don't even fuck with me like that? Or why
this and why he questioned me and shit? And I'm like,
damn, I'd be wanting to fuck with niggas
but niggas don't reach out the big spiff.
Like, niggas don't talk to me.
Niggas don't do songs with me. Niggas don't include me
and shit or studio sessions. I'd be seeing everything
going on. Who's the big cousin?
I'm the big cousin. You're a big cousin.
You're a big cousin. Okay.
So when we're doing it back and forth, it ended on, all right, we said what we said.
Da-da-da-da-da.
I never, that's the reason why I got to go with Kalin, because we're not going against the grain.
You feel me?
It ain't got nothing to do with 0-3.
I fuck with O-3.
I fuck with O-3.
Last one for me, Todd Al-San or T-Fly.
T-Fly.
Okay.
What you think?
For a feature?
Damn.
For a feature, I'd rather go with...
Todd Dollar sign or T. Fly.
I'd rather listen to Tadalai song.
I'd rather listen to Tadalai music, but I'd rather get the T-Fly feature.
That right there.
That's how I feel.
Yeah, yeah.
I could have said that like that.
That's how I'd rather have the T-Dah sign feature, but T-Fly hard.
Okay.
T-fly hard.
All right, cool.
Anything else?
I got a question.
I don't know.
if it was a petition up
what is a petition to you
a petition is when you give people to sign something
and make a change in regards to something
if it was a petition
up along
do you think
this could happen
if it was a petition that said
we could swap Nipsey out
for WAC 100
oh my God
do you think
it'll happen
long live Nipsey Hustle me
we can't just go trading
the living for the dead.
But do you think that petitioner?
You can't normalize witchcraft.
If that was real,
do you think everybody assigned it?
Do I think that Nipsey during his lifetime
was more popular?
Like if you had done like a presidential
popularity type poll?
Yeah, that might be, that might be fair.
That might be fair, right?
I don't think we should exchange the living for the dead, though.
That's a scary prospect.
You wouldn't exchange the evil for good?
I don't think Wax evil.
And I'm not 100% sure.
Nipsey was good as you're making them.
It seemed like a cool guy, but I'm not sure, like, you know.
I like Nipsey's business model, but I don't want to really entertain your question.
But I will say that Nipsey's business model has definitely been a huge inspiration to me
with the whole Proud to Pay thing.
So I'm going to go with Nipsy business model.
I'm just conscious of, like, putting people in buckets of like, oh, this is a good person
and this is a bad person, even though obviously that's what you're, I mean, you called Wax Satan.
I mean, but yeah, if you see it from just the outside looking in and from how to worldview it,
that petition will be signed in less than 0.0 seconds, right?
I'm right or wrong?
I don't know.
Hopefully people would not sign this morbid petition.
I most definitely will.
I was signing to a hundred accounts and sign a fuck out of that.
You want to electronically see it.
I'm signing the fuck out there.
Dejan or Flaco.
You can only keep one.
You can only keep one.
Flacco said don't care about no L.A. rap, nigga.
At least I care.
He said that?
Pretty much.
Dejan.
It's all good, man.
Why is he just going off, like, your selfish reason and stuff?
Like, how it benefits you.
Oh, man.
Goodbye, Flaco.
Well, that's what you said.
I'm not.
I got to be Switzerland on this.
I don't know what he said about L.A.
but if he shit it on all of us, nigga, fuck him.
He said LA rappers, what did he say?
Over or done?
One of those verbiages.
He said that the only ones that he did care about
was Big Sad Wally and Grito,
but in two months,
Grito would be done as his wording.
And because we both heavyset brothers
or whatnot, everybody thought,
I don't know who said it,
but it was him who said it.
I don't feel that way.
If L.A. Rappers over, my career is over.
You feel me?
If L.A's at 10, I'm at 10.
If L.A. is at 10.
I'm in 10.
If L.A. is at 1.
L.J.J.J.J.
is at 1.
That's how I feel it.
I'm right there in the truth.
You love L.A.
I love L.A. rap music is all I've ever done, really, to be honest.
That's what's up.
Yes, sir.
People don't like you.
That's good.
People don't like L.A. music sometimes.
Some people don't like it.
We got to work on it.
And in person, everybody knows it.
People just don't like me on the air.
In the Reddit, he's got a lot of admirers.
Huh.
You do.
You be on Reddit?
You read it?
Nah, I just know that you got people that fuck with you.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a lot.
Like I said,
In person, it's all love.
What about you?
You get, because you're hated as much as I am on LA Twitter, believe it or not.
We're both in the same both because you're tweeting my report card.
But in person, do you ever get negative experiences in person or is it all love in person?
Just like it's all love.
I haven't had that one bad experience, I swear to God.
I ain't had one bad experience.
Okay, that's good.
That's a good thing.
And I'm not going to have one.
That part, same here.
It'd be all love anytime anybody seen me.
The wildest fan interaction.
so far
Wildest fan
Sloppy top
Yeah
Sign titties
What Adam said
Gifts
Do people bring you
Stuff to your shows
His head
After every show
I get topped off
After every show
For real
Do I
I
I was podcasting was like that
What
You got the best of both
For us right now
A mob of people
Outside waiting a second
You got the best of both worlds right now.
Stop playing.
Yeah, I must have a whole plug talk.
Yeah.
That's work.
Oh, man.
What's up with that?
How could I be a porn store?
You got to send the dick picks.
Nah, that's over with it.
You, but you see how you play like that.
But you see how you let?
That's why I'm trying to.
I'm saying, if I wanted to join the porn world,
don't play with them dick games at them.
Listen.
This ain't one of them.
I'm chair checking shit.
All the male porn stars I know.
I'm chin checking shit.
When we are like around.
around each other with voters,
it's not a big deal.
So you gotta be able to fit in that environment.
I like big booty bad bitches on the dead homies
with nice ass bodies with nice ass hips
with pretty ass faces.
I like the fuck they pretty ass faces.
I ain't with all that weird ass other shit.
That's why a nigga on whack.
We ain't with all that weird shit, bro.
On the dead homies.
That's why we're tripping on whack.
You're merching on whack.
Yeah, we tripping.
Damn.
We're tripping, bro.
We ain't with that shit, bro.
got through the interview with our incident.
Maybe I can get him to make a song about you now.
Hopefully jump in that booth, nigga.
He don't rap.
We'll make one of his little guys do it.
One of his artists?
Yeah.
I do not want to see any of wax artists and Speedfitt.
Who?
I'm not going to say, I don't want any of his artists.
Who is his artist?
You know his roster?
If Young Magnificent drops a tape on you.
Boom.
You go with True Car?
You familiar with you car?
Yeah, I don't want to see y'all be.
I want to see y'all do records together.
No, I ain't going to be.
for truth card that's my nigga true car's real solid but i don't yeah any other nigga though
put them up against me hmm all right any last words for the people out there it's been filigiano
you do say your name is beginning a lot of songs i'm not supposed to i didn't say that i said
you do say your name on the beginning of a lot of songs you fuck with it huh what you say uh you got
to brand that shit huh it's gratuitous
You know your ass in this motherfucker.
A lot of motherfuck.
I'm gonna make a lot of people on this
report car happy in this bitch.
It's all good, Spiffy.
Yeah, it's all good.
We good for life.
I fuck with you.
Likewise, bro.
Let them know one of the ones
is coming on February 20th.
Hey.
But the next time I see this,
some shit like this.
Uh-huh.
Where that shit out?
Right there, right there.
Yeah.
That ain't straight, bro.
You know, great?
That ain't straight, bro.
58.
Work on changing it.
That's not.
That ain't straight, bro.
Okay, you're right.
60.
Slightly higher.
That's how you feel, Adam?
I would have to take a look.
I haven't been chosen to commentate on this.
Ooh, an Adam 22 report card.
There you go.
I'd rather fuck with your report card.
Oh, wow.
I would never make a phone.
Because I know I wouldn't get an F.
As soon as I look at this and...
I know I wouldn't get an F.
You know, like just the idea of putting this together.
Behind that F box.
Hey, a lot of people.
The idea of making this gives me anxiety.
me, Al-Dajon or something?
Yeah. He was going to kill me.
Yeah.
My young niggas back there ready to get you behind that F.
Hey, man, it's all good.
If you want to diss him on a song, there's all kinds of mustard puns.
He's done that before.
I did it.
Oh, you did it. You did that mustard puns?
I did it.
He's, yeah, he's dissed him on that, uh, on that, uh, corner store, uh, LA.
I posted it.
Yeah. I posted it.
Yeah.
I'm I don't want to fuck.
Should I give a fuck about Dejan list?
It's a piece of shit.
Don't drop my fucking card like that, Spiff.
It's a piece of shit
Don't drop my shit like that
Here this one back
I ain't fucking with that
I don't want you dropping this one
I ain't fucking with that F
These copies costs
I ain't never got a F
You got one now
And don't drop my damn list
I got these laminated
And everything
Now that's fucked up
Standing on business
Hey
Why you be standing on business behind me
Nick?
What do you mean?
Every time somebody got something to say
You reverse it
You're a spiffy hard
Spiffy, one of the hottest rappers
coming out of L.A.
I mean, I think you're pretty good rubber.
I'm gonna look like shit.
Bow.
Why you feel like that?
I'm an op lover.
He liked that fucking song.
You love that fucking song.
You love whack.
You love whack.
I like to stand up for the people
who I feel like are underrepresented, right?
I feel like, you know, people
sometimes give you a hard time,
but I think you've heard dope.
I just feel like a lot of people
wanted to know to answer to that question.
Like, damn, why is Adam?
You feel me.
Everybody asks me why.
So yeah.
I'll love it.
That's actually my clothing line
that I've coming out.
Oh, well.
I better get packages at the front dough.
You know, I make extra lodges.
That's the size clothing I wear.
You're going to be on the board, buddy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One X.
Spiffy Luciano.
Dejano.
Yeah.
Rapprappar Port Card.
Let's go.
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