No Jumper - Spiffie Luciano on Boosie vs Wack, His Issues with Dejon, Ralfy Beef & More

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

Spiffie Luciano talks about Dejon hating on him lol, Ralphy on LA rappers being trash, Wack, Nipsey, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! ht...tps://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. I'm in here today with the rap report card man himself. Yes. Dejan Paul. Top of the afternoon, man. And we're talking to my man, Spiffy Luciano. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:00:17 There it is. Big Spiffy. Not the little one. I'm going to start it off with a truth bomb. You got a hater in the building. Oh, man. For sure. Why did you point to me?
Starting point is 00:00:27 I was singing your song earlier. And he told me to shut up. No, I said, don't do that. I said, he was like, Spiffy R, Spiffy R, Spiffy R. I said, stop doing the dance. It was a dance he did with it. Do the dance that you did. Show on.
Starting point is 00:00:40 You know, I was just kind of. Stop doing that. Hey, it would be a lot of people like that being rooms behind closed doors. They could be a, playing my song. Cut that shit. Oh, him. That's him. That's him.
Starting point is 00:00:53 That's him. That's you, bro. Man, he was doing this dance. You didn't see the dance. But if you just trust me, you didn't see the dance. was doing a dance. It was terrible. Spiffy hard.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I'm trying to do something like that. So, Sippy Hard is the track off of two of America's Most Wanted, the project with Boosin. Yeah. Yep, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:16 How did that project come together? Shit. My talent, for real? Me being so dope. It was like, bro, we got to do a project together. Okay. And we just instantly start working on it.
Starting point is 00:01:27 We was in the studio working on his shit. As he felt like he was done, we just start going in on my shit. So a lot of times when a rapper signs to an artist, it's like they get one feature. And then maybe if you blow the fuck up, you get like a couple more features. But it feels like you have the unlimited, boosy collaboration card. I for show, dude. I got like 50 songs with that.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Okay. 50 songs in a stash spot. Yeah. And he don't mind release him whatever you record with him? Whatever I record with him, whenever I feel like releasing something, it's all on me. The show. All right, let's go all the way from the beginning, though. Where exactly are you from?
Starting point is 00:02:13 I'm from South Central L.A. Born and raised in the Crenshaw District. Hmm. Yeah, I went to Crenshaw High School. And, I don't know, what was your childhood like? It was a little bit of background. Yeah, my Pots was a rolling stone, you know, seen a lot in my childhood growing up due to the lifestyle he was living. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Like everything he had going on in the streets, sometimes it came home. So at the early age, I've seen a lot, like, a lot of shit. I've seen my daddy tied up. Ties them up? Playing with him, playing with his money, whatever it was. I'm a youth, though. And we used to be right there. Tie him up.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Throw some water on him. whipping, all type of shit. Crazy demon shit. He was a torturer. He was a torture. He was a killer. That's crazy. Wait, really? You think that? Do I think it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:08 No, I know that. And he's gone now so you can say that. My pop's gone. He can say whatever. He did what he did in the streets. He told you? Or you just, like, figured it out? He ain't tell us. Like, people around us will tell us.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You know who your daddy is? you know what your daddy did, you know what your... In certain situations, we didn't seen certain shit, but not no killings, but like, your daddy, not nothing to be played with, like, type. Mm. Yeah. Did he try to get you to keep your nose clean?
Starting point is 00:03:43 I felt like so, because one time I fucked up in school and got in trouble for it by him, and with him, we don't get in trouble for nothing. Like, with my mama, we get in trouble for everything. We're getting on punishment, and got a stand in the corner hole books and all type of him.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's not letting... none of that go on if he had home. We could live the life we want. We can do whatever we want in the streets. Just don't come home with bad grades. Yeah. And this shit got the nerd to give me a bad grade. If my daddy would have saw that,
Starting point is 00:04:11 the win across your shit. Ain't this about it. Why ain't going to go across my shit? You got across your shit. You got the background. I ain't get no background. Right, I got it backwards. He would go in this world.
Starting point is 00:04:21 We're going to get to the grave. But I want to ask you what music did you grow up listening to? Like, who were some of your favorite artists Want to come up? Nipsey Hustle, of course. Tupac. I used to fuck with a lot of Wiz Khalifa back then, like,
Starting point is 00:04:39 you know. But, like, that's what I was really off. Like, Boosie, Tupac, Knit. Like that, yeah. Okay. Pock, my favorite artist.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Even if you ask me, dead or alive, Pock. Right. I was going to ask you, what is some of your favorite Pock song so I have that written down. run the streets
Starting point is 00:04:59 Shorty want to be a thug Brenda got a baby Dear mama You can't see me Can't see me That's my favorite one right there Can't see me because he's I see me
Starting point is 00:05:14 I see the pocket influence Believe it or not I definitely see the pocket influence Going across your catalog Artwork wise Obviously the buried emotions Artwork Yeah that Ralphie stole
Starting point is 00:05:24 Let me finish my sentence all lies on me cover that she did you said that Ralph, you took it, but what inspired you, before it got to that, what inspires you to do that cover just in general for that project? Because the value that it held and as many songs as I had on there, I was looking at Pock, his shit had like 30-something.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So I was going for, I went to like 23, 24. I wanted to keep putting some, but Busy be like, man, he wanted to put out like 10, 14 or something like that. I'd be trying to max it. out because I'm sitting on so much in my catalog and I don't never drop shit when I'm rapping. Like, you know, I'll be holding on to it, my bad. But yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Are you familiar with what happened between him and Rafi with the whole same cover art thing? Oh, I knew that you guys were beefing, but I didn't know exactly how it started. You guys had the same cover art? Similar cover art. See, the beef didn't start there. Right. The beef started when I put out that tweet and said I'm the best rapper in L.A. me and brass.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You said you, no, no, no. You said that the only rappers that are talented in LA, which you went blast. What he said? He put like a quote tweet with laughing emojis type shit. He the first person don't want to laugh at my tweet. But not only did he laugh, he put a paragraph. And in it, I remember, I could remember that he said something like,
Starting point is 00:06:47 oh, I think because they went inside to Bousie, you over everybody in L.A. And then it went from you this and that. And then I went crazy on them. You did. I went crazy on me. Below the belt. I had to. I felt like being a whole to say to me.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like, never gave me my moment or my shine. Like, I'm always the one put on a back burner. I'm never on your shit. Retaining to what? I'm posting you on. Would you sit at these tables? Why my face ain't popping up in the mess?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Oh, you mean the lunch table? All type of shit you'd be doing. I'm never a artist on your platform. knows. So a lot of artists, especially like street artists, don't like being on my meme. So it's nice to know that somebody would want to be on one of my memes. I'm not just a street artist. You make street music. I make street music because that's where I came from. Okay. My name's merging in the different lanes. I don't just make street music. Like, you got to tap all the way in my catalog before you say that. To say that you make street music? Yeah. I didn't say you just made street music. I said you make street music. I mean, you're a rapper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Street music. You kind of talk about some street stuff. I mean... Well, I am a rapper. He doesn't make sure. I mean, yeah, it's like, you might not want to be in the same bucket, but I mean, you're not a country singer.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Nah. It would appear, yeah. Well, you could call it that, because I'm not a country singer. I don't make jazz music. I'm gonna give it my life. Okay, so when did you actually start rapping? Because I was going back trying to watch,
Starting point is 00:08:21 like, your earliest videos, and there's, like, one with a couple million views. from like four or five years ago. What was your earliest stuff that you ended up releasing? Like in my beginning stage? Yeah. Like I had released this song called Papa Molly.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I was in like, I was in high school, I think. And you were popping Mollies? I wasn't popping Mali's. But it was a trend. It was a trend for show. And I stepped in it and I just was making a song, Papa Mali.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And that was the first song that ever received, the momentum it did. Like it did like 200,000 and like that first week. And then it was on the news because this is around the time the news was talking about Papa Molly's a bad drug. I mean, Mali's is bad drugs and whoop. And they put out different artists that was making songs about Mali's on the news. Like, these are the people that got influences on people who pop in Mali's and my video popped up.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Oh, shit. On Channel 5 News. And you were hyped. I was hyped. You got to use that for marketing. It's on YouTube. I got a video on me screaming when they played it. You remember the Shoreline album that had the whole.
Starting point is 00:09:24 thing about them getting arrested with the lean and yada yada, like, yeah, you got to harness that energy when they try to fake cancel you. Was that before or was that after the Struggles project, the first one, that came on like 2014? That was like before. Like Papa Molly was like one of my first songs for real. Okay, okay. And then so with Struggles, you did a song with Blass and AD, and there was a couple other features on that project. What was your life like during that time when you made your debut project, quote-unquote? I was living in my car when I made a car when I made that project. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And I used to pull up to my boy in Three House over in like on the east side where it's grimy, dirty. Me, I know me. I've been having these tattoos all my life. And middle school, high school, I was, I've been tatted. So when I used to go to his shit, it used to be like, damn, I don't gang bang. So I got to still move right. And tattoos getting banged on and popped up anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Right. You don't got a bang. So I was living in my whip and just going to that garage, record. songs every day. That project was record out the garage. That's crazy. The struggles one, two, and Spiffy Luciano. And that's when the garage shit stopped. Okay. I was going to get to that. So real quick. Struggles two, one, I'm going to ever get the struggles three? They can. Okay. I ain't know people would still even be, but people still be in my damn now. Like, man, when you drop the struggle, I'm like, damn people, like, they're expected. You sound a little bit more confident on struggles two than struggles one. Did you notice yourself becoming a better than
Starting point is 00:10:53 growing. Okay, okay. Growing, getting better in life down there. And then when your self-title project spent for Luciano, Luciano, excuse me. Luciano. Luciano. Yeah. Okay, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Did you, do you feel like your fans got to know you more on that project? Was that the intention since you called, named it after yourself? Yeah, because you felt where I was coming from. Around that time, I had lost, like, a close friend to me, his name was CJ. Police killed them on 100 and Naif. We was all right there to, like, see it. it was like the biggest thing that happened in LA on Western and around that time he died
Starting point is 00:11:27 he was in the studio with me every day recording that project and when he died I still had to like finish it you feel I'm the whole project yeah the whole project yeah um so when you say you so you never gang bang no how'd you avoid that by my mentality and the way I was I was basically the one that was always the one that was around keeping like a level head and like always just wanted something different out of life like
Starting point is 00:11:58 I seen my daddy go through what he went through with gang banging so like as I grew up I chose to go just down a different path like I watch all my homeboys get their names and get put on though like I was trying to convince them not to do it but everybody got their own minds did your dad specifically tell you like not to go that route no he told me if I ever did get put on his hood so it wouldn't have been oh because I grew up in Crenshaw or been from 60s or just because I hang out with like Grito and people he'd be around
Starting point is 00:12:30 Grace or anybody else hood it would have been his hood specifically if it's not mine don't go with that shit does it ever get tricky not having that sort of backing as a guy in L.A? I mean obviously it gets tricky
Starting point is 00:12:47 if you do join a gang but does it get weird not having that going for you when so many people go that route? I don't know. I feel like, like, I love and respect my homies that do it, but I feel like a lot of go that route just for protection, like just to have to back them or just to say, I just couldn't be putting hands on to tell me I'm from a street sign
Starting point is 00:13:11 that was right here before my time. You're just not doing that to me. So if I'm around here, then there's just what it is. and know. That's where I come from. Everybody I know is this. So it might look like it, but I ain't that. Earlier, you mentioned that you were from the Creschard district. I was going to ask you, what's the difference between, like, for you,
Starting point is 00:13:35 what's the difference between like a west side and maybe the east side or a different part of L.A.? What's the difference from a west side and the east side? Yeah, to you, like, from your opinion. They might hate this one, but I feel like the west side is more cleaner. like we're more fresher and I'm from like the east side my dad from the east side Cabi Supreme was just calling me just now
Starting point is 00:13:58 talking about Crenshaw has nipped right hand man I just feel like the west is just the best I don't know you feel me I'm not shitting on no side my daddy from the east side his hood on the east side but it is a difference if you're from out here you're able to look at somebody
Starting point is 00:14:13 know if they're from the west side or the east side if you pay attention at least could you tell yes I could. Where it looked like I'm from? Only, no, off the music, off how you rap. And dress, just appearance, everything.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I would go crunch out of this shit, just off the music. The way you wrap the attention to detail there. That's something that you see in the nipsies, the doms, those type of artists. Damn, so I'm labeled for real. You said labeled? Yeah. What you mean? Just being from that area and just you say.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's not a bad thing. No, it's not a bad thing. But you're saying I sound like I'm from there. And it's like the. Dom looked like he put on for Limerk Park, so it just looked like I'm wanting it. It's just more attention to detail. I just know artists from the east side is the music will be put together a little bit more rugged versus how you've been doing your records as of late like in previous recent years.
Starting point is 00:15:04 It's just more attention to detail, a focus that I noticed from Westside artists. But again, it's not a bad thing or it's not a knock against the east side because sometimes that just straight up raw sound is fire too. Yeah, I love that. I'm saying. So, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I wanted to also ask you, I already asked you that. You said, you told me, I don't know if you remember this, you told me you had a joint, I'm coming with Dom Kennedy, a joint project with Dom Kennedy. You're allowed to say that? You're allowed to say that. We got enough songs to where we got that. But I don't be knowing with Dom on.
Starting point is 00:15:36 He's in his own little world right now. Nah, I love Dom, I fuck with Don. We ain't doing that one. I know, but he just be in his own little world. I text him every once in the blue one. moon checking on his mind. I text him the other day and he just sent me a message. Like, send me your address. I'm going to send you some of my merch and shit.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I like it. How did you first link up? You went down? Through copy Supreme. Okay, okay. Meet your homie. Yeah. So you, was there ever any kind of resolution to the Ralphie thing or where are we at on that? It's fucking Ralphie right now.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Didn't your project it took down on streaming platforms? I remember you was tweeting about that at some point. And that's why it's his name was in the work when they sent it to Busy trying to get the song took down and they were saying like, oh, if you don't have this took down in a certain amount of days, we're going to have a whole project stripped down. We really took the song off and my project still end up getting strapped down. It was a song with him? It was a song with Draco.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Oh, okay. I think it is nowadays, if it is one song that gets flagged, they take down the whole project. They took down my whole project and that was my out. That wasn't my first project I dropped, like since I've been with Busy. it was the unappreciated and Snoop got behind everybody we all was pushing it then this was the big project the buried emotions with the 30 songs
Starting point is 00:16:54 and you got my shit damn all because I got a song with Draco those are some grimy tactics right there if that's really how it went down Ralphie you dirty dog dirty dog why do you think he did that is it because of the argument you had or pre-existing issues
Starting point is 00:17:10 I feel like it's from the argument I had but I feel like even if we didn't have that argument my Still would have got took down due to I already seen people going viral on the internet from the db's by the bags and everybody writing these stories like man my shit just keep getting took down when he dropped songs with drag everybody getting their draco songs took down so who's to say if I didn't have an argument with him my song when I got took down it could have just been an estate thing that may be like attorneys or whoever's the custodian of that state could be the one he the one oh is him specific you know he the one his his real name was on there on the ceases of the letter that came yes okay okay yeah So when you did that tweet where you said that you and Blas were the only talented artists in L.A., was that like your actual opinion? Or would you say that you were exaggerating a little bit? And you're kind of viewing like talent in a pretty narrow sense there, I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I'm sure there's other artists that you think have talent. There's a lot of artists. I feel like I got talent. It just probably was the way I worded it, you feel me? But I feel like still, even if I worded this wrong, let's say. Boom, just out of nowhere Y'all don't never pay attention than nothing I do
Starting point is 00:18:19 Y'all not, y'all don't fuck with nothing I do I'm talking about the people and these rassas but the moment I say something y'all proved to me that I got a voice
Starting point is 00:18:33 that y'all pay attention y'all do know me you get what I'm saying y'all waited till I had something y'all felt like was negative to say to say something to me to respond to me. Y'all answer the DMs when I'm asking
Starting point is 00:18:48 for a song, but y'all laughing at my tweet. You make good points. So I'm wrong for coming crazy when I do come crazy. Y'all don't answer nothing. I got facts. The tweet was still, in my opinion, not correct, because there are other talented artists. If you want to say you're
Starting point is 00:19:03 the most talented artists, then that's subjective, but there are other times. I'm sure you just admit it if there are other times. If I went on Twitter, I'm the hardest. If I were on Twitter tomorrow and said all these other L.A. podcast are trash. I mean, every other LA podcast would be fucking on my ass. It would be shit on Adam week for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And I would deserve it because it's like, you know, that's just kind of like shitting on everybody else's hard work. But you're not supposed to feel good about yourself? For sure. But if I was, but even if I say something that's really just positive about myself, you know, a lot of people are going to take that in a weird way too.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But definitely like putting down everybody else is a surefire way to piss people off because you're kind of like, directly insulting whatever successes they've had or how much work that they put in to their career it was that only word i'm telling that from that tweet it was just the only if you took the only i just felt like if you know me why you're wearing a shoe this don't got nothing to do with nobody that's close to me i'm cool with did ever did music with family with in this music shit this not for y'all we're on my side y'all yeah spiffy we're supposed to feel like this instead
Starting point is 00:20:13 y'all took it out of context and made it your business to say something to me. Outside of Ralphie, who were some other artists that were offended by that tweet that came out, well over a year ago, mind you, I want to add some context to this. It's not a recent tweet. This is over a year old. But you want to, just as an aside, what he did with that tweet and the reaction he got is like almost identical to what happened to you. You did a whole report card, but it's like, you know, anyone who really, like,
Starting point is 00:20:41 expresses a strong opinion about what music is good or what music is bad in L.A. is just guaranteed to have a whole bunch of people shitting on them for you know like this people are so industry now. They're so careful with not wanting to piss people off you know. Nonetheless, I do want to say
Starting point is 00:20:57 this is a lot more work. Right, this is much more thought out. But I get the parallel that you're sort of the same effect. You said your opinion and everybody got mad. I said my opinion, everybody got mad. That we have. That's how I feel. That we have in common. Blast, talented as fuck. What if I didn't even say Blass name in that and I just put it all on me.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm the only talented They would have never responded. You don't think? Oh, it's because you mentioned Blass. Yes. Oh, you're going to show this thing a little without me? Yeah, all right. Oh, you want to get to the psychology of the L.A. rap?
Starting point is 00:21:24 I'm not stupid, bro. Let's, okay, so top five L.A. rappers. Since we talk about L.A. rappers. Let's go living. Okay, cool. That's a nice nuance. That's B. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Let me say one name. It's said. It's easy to name a bunch of people who are gone. Yeah, no, no. Because you know I'm fin of name. Nip. We know them. That's my Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's Bezzi. Yeah. I don't listen to nobody. That's political. Yeah, I'm asking. That's what we're asking. I don't really got one. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Okay. That's bad? Yeah. You just have a top. Because you said not dead And you know where I'm gonna go at with it So if you're talking about a life I'm really not cruising to nobody shit for real
Starting point is 00:22:28 From LA Just me right now I'm just listening to me every day I'm not listening to me every day I'm not listening to Everybody really is trash I guess so They don't get played in the whip
Starting point is 00:22:37 Sorry guys Do you agree When you see the flakos Of the world or all this commotion That's been going on basically saying LA rap is trash LA rap makes no noise Etcetera
Starting point is 00:22:49 Do you agree with that? You feel like LA's down bad in comparison to the rest of the country? Yes, Biffie, do you? I feel like we got our own, like our own wave, our own path. I feel like a lot of motherfuckers need to step it up, but I feel like it's bunk right now.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm sorry. You know, look at the camera and say this? Niggas need to get it together. For this one, I'm sorry. Niggas need to get it together, even including myself, you feel me? I could be better at this shit than attacking this shit
Starting point is 00:23:18 the way harder than I do So you have made I don't know if you've seen it But so this guy here Any body Because I get into a rapper is what Two three times a week But every rapper I've ever got
Starting point is 00:23:31 Until you did the most creative thing ever That for the first time ever just stump me This guy here made a fake Report card It was real He made a fake Report card He gave everybody 100%
Starting point is 00:23:46 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. In every category. Everybody got 100%. That's why I- Positivity. But niggas can't say I don't fuck with them. I bigged up everybody in the city.
Starting point is 00:23:57 When you be bashing them and putting them down and hurting their feelings. You lied to them. And making niggas want to quit music. Everybody's 100%? Because you get you great-nickers like we're at school. That's how you're great-school. That's how you're going to class no more.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I don't get F in nothing. As soon as you put your project on iTunes, you're opening yourself up to criticism. And in this case, I think, you know, he's promoting you as well. but not to know teacher. I'm saying. But source had five mics,
Starting point is 00:24:21 WSL has sizes. I have grades. What's the... And just because I ain't put no... And I asked you about your report card. Yeah, just because I ain't put none of you niggas in my top five. Don't mean I don't like you niggas music
Starting point is 00:24:33 or you niggas ain't tight. I just don't have a top five. You gave them 100%. You gave everybody on the list 100%. Why did you do that? But it's a lot of people on these lists. About the first one. Not my...
Starting point is 00:24:44 Because you was hating on everybody. You felt I was. hating on everybody. You was hating on everybody. A nigga woke up with some viral shit, talking about everybody in my DMO, you got an F, you got a F on what? What's going? Who is this fat dude? Like, you haven't, that's how I felt then. I don't feel like that now. How did you see me in person? I'm not that big. Genuine, you cool. And you ain't that fat. Yeah, fit. You're something like Biggie Smalls though. Huh? Go ahead, go ahead. No, you good. But the way you be graying niggas and degrade
Starting point is 00:25:16 I feel a lot of niggas pain, you feel me? Because I took that shit I took that shit personal, Adam. When I seen that F, I was ready to come find you. That's great. Like, niggins stand on business about their music. We in the studio, we work hard. So if a Drake or a consistent JZ
Starting point is 00:25:32 would be considered an A, you take offense to someone saying you're here at this F level. If that's A, if that's top of the top, that's A. You being an F to me isn't an insult because it's like, Like if you look at how far you are from that in real life, it's about so. You can work your way to that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So I want everybody to get to that top level, but I'm saying you hear right now. It's not permanent. These aren't permanent grades. Grades change twice a year. That's how I look at it. I wouldn't take offense to something that changes, especially if I know that there's room for me to get to a. I'm trying to take that glass ceiling off at LA. It's a glass ceiling that's there.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like you just can only hit this and then it fizzles out. I'm trying to get rid of that glass ceiling. But certain people feel like you're keeping it there. like with the with the bullshit. By telling somebody to drop more music or to do more branding, that's keeping it in bullshit? I think this could only motivate people, right?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Should, yeah. I don't feel like anybody's going to look at this and be like, damn, he thinks I'm whack. I should just never put music out again. Because a lot of people on this list, honestly, already have the problem of just not fucking releasing music, which if anything, is kind of like a big part of the problem or at least part of why I think the music shit feels stable.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Is that like so many of these guys like, I mean, they either aren't dropping at all or they're dropping and are getting little to know attention. Aren't promoting it. Aren't dropping music videos for it. Aren't doing interviews. Aren't showing up to interviews. It's a plet of reasons. But bringing it back to you, we're speaking on critique. I want to ask you.
Starting point is 00:27:05 So unappreciated was the first project you put out officially on badass music syndicate. Correct? Did Bousie and his team have any feedback for you? Did they give you any notes on it? How did they feel about that project? They loved it. That was actually one of my favorite projects, too. It was simple.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It was smooth. I think it was about six, seven songs. Six seven songs, yeah. And it was well put together. Yeah. What is it about EP's that you like? Why is the EP the new thing? Versus like...
Starting point is 00:27:34 Because they quit. You ain't sitting there listening to a nigga for so long or even got to say, oh, I'm not going to go through the rest of this project because it's too long. Like, or certain people. you would gravitate to on a different level and really sit there and listen to everything.
Starting point is 00:27:50 But sometimes I just really can't. If you sent me a 20 song makes tape, I would for sure be expecting the best songs to be within the first five. The first five. If it's not, I'm cutting it off. So you prefer the EP? For sure.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I ain't getting the song 18, realistically. I'm dropping all EPs for the rest of the year. I like full projects, but I gave. I gave niggas a full project. Niggas got my shit took down. I'm not doing that shit again. Well, you put like 30 songs. That show was a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It was a lot of work getting in contact with the producers. It was a lot of work getting all the, because most of the songs I'm just in there just rapping. Gotta write all the lyrics out to have them sent to the, it was so much to do behind that project. And a nigga took a loss, but I'm gonna double back with some hot shit right now. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Did you ever have a conversation with Busy about Draco? Yeah. What was that like? When I first had like really got around him, I'm like, man, so what happened with you and Draco? Man, I love Draco, bro. Like, what the fuck? He was like, man, bro, he just felt like I was doing something with his ops.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And he was like, I don't know. I'm just getting my money. Like respect. You feel me? A nigga don't know, especially Bousie, you feel me, from a whole different part of the world. He don't know what's going on with these L.A. politics. He just wasn't tapped in on that.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, but Dr. Felt some type of way and he said what he said and And Bousie was just like man I ain't you know He felt some type of way like damn he could have worked with him I remember that yeah Interesting I think I was mad at Draco when he did that And I didn't even have nothing to do with Bucci yet
Starting point is 00:29:35 I'm like man Bousie a real nigga bro Because I rewatched the Trappelor Ross video that he did about Draco recently and it kind of like convinced me you know how he'd be putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. It kind of sort of convinced me that Bousie did do that song intentionally to get at Drakow. But I forget why. I thought that was before he said anything about Drake. Before he had an issue with Dreyko, Bousie did that feature.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I think that's why it happened, right? Or do I have my timeline wrong? Yeah, it's all kind of a blur. It wasn't really cool. I think. Which one happened first? Did the collab happen first or the interview happened first when he didn't know who Drako? He said he didn't know who Dreyko.
Starting point is 00:30:15 The collab happened first. The collab happened first. Okay, yeah. Well, when he said he don't know who Draco was, like with the Drake feature or some shit? I don't know. Did Vlad ask him at some point? Yeah, it was Vlad. It was a Vlad interview.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I don't remember. I think I texted Vlad at one point and asked him, hey, next time you interview Busy, ask him how he feels about Drakeo doing a song called I just did some shit or beat some shit that out of Toplow Busy. But then I don't think Vlad ever actually asked him it, so I'm not sure. Damn. That's a good messy question, right? That is. How did you first link with Draco?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Like, what's your relationship? What was your relationship like? Shit, when he got out of jail, I was kind of like booming a little bit. Like, and he's seen what was going on. So we used to dim each other back to back, like, just a comment on each other's stories. Like, when I posted all my jury or my money or something, he'd be like, that's a lot of shit on the table. Like, shit like that. And I used to be like, nigger, let's do a song.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Nick, let's do a, ooh. Like, and he used to be like, me, for show. So I used to kick back and just. wait my turn, you feel me? And it came around. Okay. How did you end up with a fake Italian last name? Because rappers used to do that shit a lot,
Starting point is 00:31:25 but you don't see it as much anymore. Everything used to be like some lacosa nostra-ass shit. I love it. I love my fiance rap. I like that type of stuff. I just felt like it sounded good with Spiffy, Spiffy Luciano. I got a question, though. How you feel about Luciano being attached to my name?
Starting point is 00:31:43 I'm not against it. Oh, okay. It's interesting, it's memorable. Okay. It's safe to assume that it's like a street type of lane, though, because it's gangster. He was a gangster. Spiffy Luciano. You would assume that that person makes street music.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So, like, if you say, like, the pop appeal to it, maybe not so much, but as far as a solidified street rapper, gangster rapper was making gangsta music, it's a perfect name. Crossover, Spiffy is fine. You feel me? for sure that's what I'm saying now it is it would be if you're picking a rap name you'd be like Y HN Spiffy Oh
Starting point is 00:32:21 Like some random acronym Some random shit I hate that I didn't want to be none of that either I didn't want to be little spiffy I'd rather be big spiffy Okay That's what I'd really rather go by
Starting point is 00:32:33 Big Spiffy Okay But you know You said that on the opening of your recent song To the summertime in that Elcat Record That's my favorite song right now, too.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Okay. And that's going to be on the new project that's coming out? That's going to be. The one I got coming out right now is just to throw off why I'm going to put this dope-ass album out. So one of the ones? It's about to be on that one. It's going to be on the one after this one that's coming out February 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And that's an EP, I'm assuming. That's an EP. And then you said you work on the album. Yeah, I got to, yeah. It's damn near done. I just got to finish like two, three verses on my songs. And you really do no features on there like that. From your perspective, when it comes to promoting your music, what actually works?
Starting point is 00:33:18 What moves the needle? In terms of, like, obviously, you can make music, but then getting your shit out there. Because it's a challenge these days. Shit, I still do it the old-fashioned way. Like, I come from the era. I was bouncing out, stamping my shit all down Hollywood, with the stapler, going to get big posters. I'm going to still do that. Like, when you see that project come out on the 20th, you're going to see that shit.
Starting point is 00:33:43 everywhere and that's just going to be me hands on doing it while i'm out here for these next few days i'm gonna do it myself okay so i feel like the old-fashioned way because just posting it on instagram it ain't going nowhere you feel me if a nigga don't got a real team a management and a back in there or signed to a real label you getting it out the mud like me i'm signed to a real street nigga you feel me we still independent so my shit just off the off the muscle like when i'm putting my shit out it's just me. So whatever numbers I accumulate, it's off of either the fan base I've been had and what's growing
Starting point is 00:34:16 from whoever talking about it and what I'm doing. Two things, real quick, suspect, which camera is mine? Suspect, you heard how he said how he's signed to a label but he's still independent because you can be on an independent label and still be considered an independent artist because you're independent of any major label system.
Starting point is 00:34:32 We got a whole debate about that. He feels like any right who signed to any label is no longer independent. And I don't agree with that. Especially something like boozy. No, we still independent. You're independent artist too. He's still screaming now. We independent with this shit. We're in the mud.
Starting point is 00:34:44 All right. And then secondly, I was going to say that you did a song called Free the Boy. Yeah, Free My name is The Boy, man. I have that written. What's your relationship? The boy's locked up? Yeah, he's locked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:57 He's been locked up for like, probably like, what, six, seven months now, Johnny? Oh, okay. Almost a year. Shit. How long have you known him? I've been knowing him for, probably like, seven, eight years now. Okay. And I met him through his big brother, my nigga Lowe.
Starting point is 00:35:18 They front of bay. Okay. And they all been linked in with each other, and he started bringing them around, like bringing them to studio sessions and shit like that. We cling like that. And he ended up taking me on tour with him and all that. I forever, that's why you see what I'm doing what I'm doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And I took me on my first tour. Really? Yep. And it was around the time, like, Like nip candlelight and his, uh, we went on tour and like the whole sack, like the whole bay. Okay. Yeah, all that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Like, we hit all that. And they let me open up every show. Shows of the boy. Shots to S. Yeah. R. So you recently, uh, what? You made some waves recently speaking out against Wack 100.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Shout out to SOP. I don't know. I don't know the damn difficult. How, uh, how do you feel about Wack? You kind of, you took it. on for Busy when they were going back and forth over this BG thing right? Wack 100. I don't, I don't too much care for the BG thing. I don't even really know what happened with that, but when he said the things he said about Boosy, like, oh, I'm going to slap
Starting point is 00:36:26 them and do all these, you know, I'm going to violate you and all that. And I'll be with them every day. I'm not just going to let you violate him. And so it all really stem from the shit he was doing and talking about with Nipsey. So I already had. anger built up towards him so when he came out with that boosy shit and them threats that's when i'm like fucking i'm gonna get it i gotta say something i'm not just gonna keep sitting here and letting you attack everything around me and anything i'm involved in i'm on that too so you really think you could wash whack in a fight for show really whack couldn't fuck with me on this bad day you think so i don't know whack just the devil that niggas i just the devil that niggas just the
Starting point is 00:37:10 The devil had him. That's a lot. That's the devil's child. Really? You think he's possessed? Pure fucking evil. Pure evil. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:18 If you think it was something. He does love chaos. If you think it was something out right now. Yeah, exactly. He loved chaos. He loved bullshit. He loved putting people down. He loved just torment motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:37:27 When you had a nigga like Nipsey, that just loved people, was genuine, help people, had a good heart. This was a good soul. You feel me? And then you got a bullshit nigga like this. That's just still, you feel me here. I'd rather have. nip let's swap him out to be fair he didn't uh he didn't like go out of his way to start saying that
Starting point is 00:37:45 stuff about nip that was like leaked by hasan campbell who recorded their phone call although he was already saying the stuff about nip not being a legend yeah i actually just seen some old footage i can see some i seen him an old i just seen some old footage of him saying of a cameraman asking him hey how you feel about the rapper nipsy huss you feel like he's a legend no he's not a legend i never even seen that one like it was multiple shit just leading up to that just like you and then the new shit he just said about nipsy all the weird shit that just did it for me you know what the newer things aside his original opinion of nipsy not being a legend i totally disagree with that i disagree what are some of your favorite like nipsy moments because
Starting point is 00:38:29 i know that you had a personal when he slapped the fuck out a dude at the bt awards same shit we had do to whack 100 he keep playing with us that was a left day they called it a victory slap i remember yeah at the pre-show you want one of them after he performed. But so Wack predicted that Bucy was going to come around and be on his side in regards to the BG thing. So what if Wack and BG, Wack and Bucy end up being cool? And then meanwhile, you still have these issues with Wack. You said, what if who would be cool with Wack?
Starting point is 00:38:59 What if Wack and Boosie end up being cool with him? That would never happen. Never? Come on. Really? You think that's going to happen? Wack was talking about it like Bucy was going to come around to see his side. He's not going to come around.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You already made. threats. You talked about a nigga bad. You called a nigga out his name and said what you're going to do to him. Say what you going to do to me. You think he's going to be cool with you after that? You think I'm going to be cool with that? I don't know. People can always squash it, right? Give us a million. We'll squash it. A million.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah, you talk bad about nip. We ain't going to keep putting up with that. At least you got a price. Did you show Adam, or would you mind showing Adam the single cover? Do you want me to show him for the summertime? Yeah, I got it right here for you. Okay. Have you seen it? Oh, my cover? The single we were just talking about. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:39:46 I was going to show him where I got it from. Oh, you pull that up for me, please. And you show him the inspiration. Yeah, I got you. I'm about the next to this post right after this. We can put them in the video. Okay. What is it?
Starting point is 00:39:56 He dropped the song that we were just talking about summertime. Oh, okay. And I just thought the artwork was crazy. Then he showed me where he got it from. So that's him when it decapitated whack wandering. Oh, Lord, that is a... And then he said it was from a... You got the inspiration from a game cover or something.
Starting point is 00:40:13 right game except cover wow so this that's the original i'm sure wax gonna have a couple hours of clubhouse content about this gee you not oh man good old days that photo did bring up memories that's crazy so you'd really want to decapitate whack 100 yeah man he feel like he the biggest he feel like he the bully like i feel like one thing my pops always told me what uh adam is ain't ain't no man bigger than no bully and one thing i heard him tell you was what if, yeah, I did see him saying what if Bousie start, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:49 not coming around, but just like, you know, and you still got to be around us and you got to be in L.A. He said, niggas die in their city. What's that supposed to mean? I mean, he's probably making a vague threat, but something could happen to you, right? Right, and nothing going to ever happen to me. I'm going to let us see a hundred years.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I'm out of led these niggas for show. For two, you ain't going to do nothing to me. You ain't slapping nothing on my face Any niggas Any niggas slap my face Nigger mama's gonna be crying for show I'm not taking no slap
Starting point is 00:41:24 Slaps like I'm not taking nobody Doing nothing to me bro I don't know what's up with Wack 100 And all them threats like Well I'll relay the message For sure While Adam does that I was gonna ask you about Not right now
Starting point is 00:41:42 You collaborated with Grito On the Big Dog remix How did that collaboration come about? That was like Grito just got out of jail He was probably like four five days out Okay And me and Boosie was in the studio
Starting point is 00:41:56 Recording it And like I just DM Grito I'm like, nigga I got a song for you to jump on He ain't know it was gonna be Boosie or nothing He just said send it I sent that motherfucker He sent that motherfucker back in like two, three hours
Starting point is 00:42:10 I ain't even know it was in my email He ain't even tell me he sent it back or nothing Just sent it just sent it I'm waiting hours End of the day I'm hitting him I hit him I'm like you did that
Starting point is 00:42:21 He said I've been sent that to your email I checked the email It was hours later sent That's how he works though He is one of my most Because of the same artist working artists Or I got a fat question Because I am ready for a snack
Starting point is 00:42:33 If there was a spiffy Luciano burger From like your favorite hood spot I really don't know What your favorite hood spot is But imagine that place If there was a burger named after you there
Starting point is 00:42:43 What would be on this burger? What would beione? Yes, like what's the Spiffy Luciano burger? If some people can go order that burger. It had jalapinos on that motherfucker. All right, that's enough. My last question is... I'm playing it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'm playing. Just jalapinos. I love alipinos. I do. I don't... I don't typically get them on my burger, but... That's too spicy. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, when they're spicy as fuck, I don't like it. Hell no. My bad. Halapinos. What else? What else? What cheese? shit, barbecue sauce.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Heartburn burger. I have acid reflux. You might like, you might fuck with that. You might fuck with that. Take the jalapinos off. I'm gonna put some lettuce and some onions on there. I'm a big fan of onions.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Now you want to do vegetables for more vegetables. I don't fuck with tomatoes, though. Really? Same. Yeah, hell no. When I was like, I think I was like 10, my daddy made me eat a whole onion.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Why? And it, and it, a whole onion, bro. And it burned. my whole mouth, my face, my insides, everything was just hot and burning. I'm a little boy running around the house. Daddy, this shit is, I don't know what the fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:57 He's like, fuck, he was hurt. Why? Because he don't like to see his kids hurt or go through nothing. And he knows that shit was really hurting me. It was like, why did he make you eat the onion? All right, he used to do this shit. My daddy was like the daredevil. Like, he was the, I'm telling him he was a demon baby.
Starting point is 00:44:11 He used to be bored in the house. Like, my daddy got a shitload of kids. You feel me? I got like 15 brothers. and sisters. And he used to be like, eight of me and my brothers, like, in the house at a time. Like, we never want to be at our mama. We always
Starting point is 00:44:24 at his shit, like, because we get to go outside, ride the mini bikes, go outside, put the boxing gloves on, beat up the neighbors, and do all type of shit to them. And he just let us do whatever, run wild. So we didn't fuck with Mama House. So he used to play games with us, because he used to thug it in the house with us, selling dope
Starting point is 00:44:40 out the side of the window. Fucking with the kids. Like, he one thing he was was a daddy. That was a killer but he was a daddy at the same time. So he used to play games with us. He used to have a bunch of money all the time. He used to take a thousand like, I'm going to put this thousand under
Starting point is 00:44:56 this cup. I'm going to put a raw egg under this cup. I'm going to put some raw oatmeal with hot sauce under this cup. And I'm going to put a whole onion under this cup. So he used to play the hood fear factor. Right. That's what that's called. And guess what cup I picked?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Who got the thousand? And guess what happened to you if you don't Do nothing that's right there. But if you would have won this thousand, you would have won this thousand and been running around the house like you rich. Right. I have to eat the onion.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And if you didn't, the whole house is all boys, all big niggas, all my brother's big, and you get fucked up by the whole house. He tie you up and they just get the punch on you. Hogtie? Yeah, hog tie. Don't nobody want to go through that. You're remembering it with a smile on your face,
Starting point is 00:45:44 but this is kind of deranged. That's a lot. That's fun, bro. That shit made us... That shit made us tough. Like, so I eat the onion. I'm burning the death. He's going to tell one of his girls and go,
Starting point is 00:46:00 go run the, go run some cold water in the tub. They threw me in the tub. I'm in there, and it's making it worse. The water was making it hotter. Oh, boy. Oh, they was from to run me to the hospital. I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm just going, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:46:13 And just in due time, it just wore out. But just it took hours, bro. Never eat a raw onion. Never eat a whole onion, bro. I did it and I love onions. I had a friend who there was some kind of dare situation going and he ate like a whole tube of toothpaste and ended up in the hospital. Fluoride overdose.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah, I think he only got like halfway through it and he was fucked up and had to go to hospital. One of the cups was some bleach too. And what you have to do with the bleach, Smithy? Nobody, nobody picked that cup. Just coincidentally. One of my brothers picked the oatmeal with the high sauce and he had to eat that shit like that. A nigga like, ugh. Hey, I just learned a new word, so I'm going to ask you if you identify with it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Are you a tuna? The fuck is that? Like the fish? A turnt-up non-affiliate. Shit. Something like that. I was watching a jail video and I heard that. I mean, if that's what you want to call it, I'm just, I'm not the type of nigga that
Starting point is 00:47:05 just take from niggas like, where you from? I don't take to that. Like, I'm liable to going across your jaw. If I got a burner on me, I'm going to hit you with it or do something. I'm like I don't like being asked why I'm from, bro. So being a non-affiliate is it's kind of tough. It's tough being a gang member and your name being called and you got to go answer or you do some weird shit or you got to go get DP to something. I don't got to answer to none of that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You feel me? I'm my own man. So a nigger never know how I'm moving or going to approach them. You feel me? I don't got to answer the niggas. You can't call around and ask about me. You feel me? You could call niggas and niggas and tell you this and that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 People will give you stories from nate the time with you and the niggas, niggas not knowing what I'm doing or what I'm going. do to you or none of that, you feel me? Because I move on my own. I agree with you when you say it's annoying to be asked where you're from. I don't like it. One of the least favorite questions. I don't fuck with that shit. That shit is annoying. On my daddy I don't. I don't look. Nigger asked me why I'm from, I might slap you.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Imagine if you had to say New Hampshire. And then explain what New Hampshire is. Usually, because most people don't really know. I don't ask me is where they're from. Because some non-affilius ain't going for nothing, you feel me? You got some not affiliates that's harder than gang members.
Starting point is 00:48:14 you think you super hard because you gang bang any nigga could bust their gun and squabble any nigga could fight any nigga could pull that shit out of end your life at a certain age is just a disrespectful question in my opinion it's disrespect especially if you ask an older person like say you ask the nigga as well as 30
Starting point is 00:48:31 you ask me this why are you asking me this because if I say the wrong thing you're going to harm me I take I take it as you're going to do something to me when you asking me this so fuck it let me do something first or let me just go crazy like I don't gang bang, so don't ask me that.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Never care for that question. Shifting it back to the studio or Bousie or music. What's your favorite, like, in-studio moment with Bucie ever? Well, sitting in the studio making Spiffy hard. Don't bring it up again.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Spiffy hard. He's sitting at the desk and the B came on. Oh, and this around the time, I'm going through that bullshit with Ralphie in the whole L.A. He's seen the shit blow by storm all over Twitter and I pull up the bussy house
Starting point is 00:49:20 I'm walking in he said man what the fuck going on I see that shit like I'm like man they ain't home me big dog look when I'm on these knickers I'm showing them all the shit I'm coming at niggins and he's like yeah watch this he getting the studio to beat came on he looking at me he was like you see how it come on
Starting point is 00:49:37 what up West Coast it's time for all these niggas to come together he basically was trying to say nigga fuck that bullshit niggas gonna come together and he like nigga, niggas, sniffy hard, nigga and y'all gonna know this. Oh, no, no. And he and that bitch screaming,
Starting point is 00:49:49 Spiffy, Liljian, I'm back there crying, laughing because he's serious and it was hard, though. And it was dope. I went in there and I gassed up. He couldn't fucking believe it. He really screaming in that bitch,
Starting point is 00:50:01 this nigga hard. This nigga spiffy hard. And everybody in the studio pulling their hair out. I'm really nice. Yeah, because I know you were pretty hyped when me and Dejohn and a couple of other people
Starting point is 00:50:14 on stream and I think I said something like what if or like Bucy's going to look like a total genius if Spiffy blows up and he was the one who recognized him as like a non-L.A. person recognizing you before
Starting point is 00:50:30 almost anybody else. That shit made my day. I'm gonna just keep it all the way whack one minute. Oh shit. That shit made my day. I'm like, what the fuck? I couldn't believe. I see
Starting point is 00:50:46 you have to you feel me put niggas on their shit when they're getting out of line and out of pocket when they're speaking on Big Spiffy stop pointing at me
Starting point is 00:50:53 you feel me He was hating on you He was hating How was I hate me? I said I like that something with that feet down When Spiffy blow up
Starting point is 00:51:00 He gonna look like a motherfucking gipsy gonna look like a motherfucking genius And y'all gonna all look crazy y'all gonna all be looking stupid
Starting point is 00:51:07 because then I ain't gonna be fucking with some niggas It's gonna be fucking They're gonna be stupid They gonna be you too No I'm spotting real talent. I spot your talent,
Starting point is 00:51:16 put you on the list, and saying that this talent can get way better. When Adam did that, my brother, call me. He's like, hey, bro, you seen that shit? Why? That nigga, Adam, fuck with you? I'm like, I don't fuck with me, nigga. He's like, yes, he do. Like, remember when I seen you at that creator's party,
Starting point is 00:51:32 and I walked up to you and I gave you all that fucking weed. With the white shit on the... With that white shit on that. For that frosted weed? Yeah. I'm like, Adam, why you don't fuck with me? You like, I fuck with you. You came on the show multiple times. I'm like, I ain't never sat and had my solo
Starting point is 00:51:46 with you, I fuck with you, Adam. And he was like, I fuck with you. Even now I had to bring a hater as a co-host. On me, you brought a hating-ass nigga on here with me to sit and have a good conversation with two civilized people. Right. I'm civilized two, three civilized motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Go ahead, man. And motherfucker, I'm like, man, why you don't fuck him? You're like, I fuck with you. And I'm letting him look why in a guy? So, wait, I know you consider yourself underrated. I would agree. Like, I think you're a better rapper than the numbers would suggest or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:16 What do you think is holding you back? Great question. What are the fans not seeing? I don't know if it's the fans or is it these rap niggas. You feel me? I don't know if it's hate going on behind closed doors. I don't know what it is. I don't know what's the niche and what I need to hit on.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Because I got it. I got it. You know I'm hard as a motherfucker. That don't mean shit. I'm asking, okay, you talking about, he asked you what's holding you back. What's holding me back is hating ass niggas. You looking outward. I'm going to ask you to look inward.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'm going to ask you to look inward now. He asked you that question. I'm putting a part to on it. I'm asking you to look inwardly, self-reflect. Not the DJs, the media, the blog, the fans, XYZ. What can spiffy? What can't be. Standing on business.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I'm asking you. So it's not them? I'm not saying it's not them. I'm asking you, person to person right now to reflect internally and tell me something that Spiffy could be doing better for Spiffy's rap career. I'm not saying it. Yeah, you turned that shit all the way around. Yeah. What I
Starting point is 00:53:23 could be doing better is I'm not consistent. I could put that on the table. You feel me? I got my days. Nick, I live a real life. I go through real street shit. I go through real life shit, real family shit. Like, I'm really behind the scenes building my life and trying to keep shit
Starting point is 00:53:42 in order. And when shit falling down, I'm the only person there to pick it up. Okay. You feel? So, I don't got it. I don't got a shit load of people around me for help or I don't got nobody to look too like, oh, I need this and that. Like, I'm standing strong on my own. So sometimes the music got to get put on pause when I don't want it to.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And to that, I would say it's now on your team. Now that you put this out here and it's on camera, it's on your team to make sure that you comfortable enough where your priority can be the music. Right. They have to make your life, your team and the label and all that have to make your life comfortable enough. when Spiffy wakes up, he's focused on being the best MC on the West Coast or in America or whatever your goal is.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Right. So currently I'm building a team. I need management. I need these type of shit around me so this shit can really crack off the way it need to. Until then, I'm thugging it. But I'm pushing. But I feel like I could be more consistent.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I feel like I could be more open to, you know, fucking with certain rappers and doing songs with people. Collabs. You feel me? I really want to do that. I don't I'm not here to shit on nobody I want to work with a lot of people in LA Like
Starting point is 00:54:50 But right now I'm really locked in on self Because I put myself back too much So I'm locked in on my vision And what I'm really trying to do If I continue to keep watching everybody else I'd be still stuck in one place You feel me I see what's going on
Starting point is 00:55:07 I see niggas dropping shit I see everything that's going on I see a lot of motherfuckers that's more inconsistent than me I feel like I'm doing a great job But I can be doing that one and amazing one. Five is right in the middle. Yeah. You feel me? That's what, five are consisting because you are putting out the EPs.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Right, I'm dropping. Two of America's most But I don't feel like enough platforms is pushing me. Okay. I don't wake up on blogs. I don't wake up, oh, even if it's negative. I don't wake up on shit. Like, I don't hit the Shade Room more than six, seven times, more than any nigga in LA. I haven't been on the Shade Room.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Now, no jumper. Say cheese. I haven't been on all that shit, but I don't feel like nobody really out there like, oh, this nigga hard eating nightlights, we'd be pushing them. This is somebody we want to see up there in that light light. What's your publicist name? What's your PR's name?
Starting point is 00:55:55 I don't got none of that yet. That's that person's job. That person supposed to wake up every day and be dedicated to making sure that platforms are posting and talking about Spiffy, that Spiffy has public opportunities and those eyes on them. That's something that you also got to work on. I can recommend a few. Talley Spencer, Cammy Johnson.
Starting point is 00:56:11 The publicist up here, Miss Laura, is a publicist. Oh, Laura. Yeah, so that's a role. You feel me? You are in the worst position, bro, for real. You have the makings of all the makers of a great MC and a dominant presence and an asset to the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:56:26 It's just some fine-tuning, I feel like. Like, really, just some fine-tuning. Like, in six months to a year, you could be in that top five conversation, West Coast or top team. I feel like I really am. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I feel like once motherfuckers really see me and really start taking a liking into me and want to cling to me and really help my career, then people are just going to come. along as this shit go you feel me uh real quick uh blick down or shoot it out as far as which song shoot it out shoot it out okay why i like both but i want your opinion why you like blick down yeah i like both songs i would have never guessed that yeah i like both good looking uh i like shoot it out because i put my
Starting point is 00:57:09 heart and my soul into that okay and um i got my favorite rapper on that i got my favorite rapper on that motherfucker. Right, right. And that song made me feel good. Like, you feel me? All my songs
Starting point is 00:57:21 make me feel good, but, you know, lonely Drakeo, blicked down one of my favorite songs, too, because I never would have thought I
Starting point is 00:57:28 ended up with a Draco feature, you feel me? Some niggas don't take time out their life to do shit like that, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Like, you know, and charge you for that for you guys a lag on you. Nah, it came with a different kind of price.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Okay. Ooh, creepy. Nah, nothing like that. No, No ditty. Niggas no. If niggas know, then niggas know.
Starting point is 00:57:49 You feel me? It was a trade for a trade. What about Ice Cube or Snoop Dog? Snoop Dog. Okay. Why did you? Don't get it fucked up. I fuck with Ice Cube.
Starting point is 00:58:01 You can fuck with both. It's just the ultimate pick. The ultimate pick Snoop Dog, that's un. Why'd you a tiger? Shit. If I had a bottle, you can take a shot and take both. I don't have a bottle. It just hits you with the,
Starting point is 00:58:25 For pause. You said, say, Bo. Why'd you attack? All right, neither. Okay. Boosey badass or Snoopy badass? Boosey badass.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Who the fucking Snoopy badass? No, don't start. That's gonna be for old- And why is he not on this list? This is his favorite rapper. Don't, why did you bring him up, man? Don't bring him. I'm going hard for my artist.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, man. Oh, you got an artist? Yeah. Snoopy badass? That's my homie. You're going to hear about this shit. Oh, damn, damn. Oh.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Be hard? Yeah. Snoopy hard. Yeah, Snoopy Hart. No, I ain't no nigga like me. It ain't no nigga like me. Did you remix? The nigga ain't harder than me.
Starting point is 00:59:02 The nigga ain't harder than me. I mean, you don't know what you just did just now. Chris Sean Victory. I don't know what he's talking about. He said he got an artist's name Snoopy Badass. Stop saying that name. What if we do a no jumper track? And you guys...
Starting point is 00:59:13 You think you would wash him if I put together a track with both you? I'll watch any nigger. I don't know who you're talking about, but I'll watch any nigga. Any nigga on this report card, I'm outwrapping him. it's no it's no it's no it's no it's the game is on this report card I'm out rapping the game Westside boogie is on this report card and this ain't got nothing to do with the ones who ain't really rapping
Starting point is 00:59:35 I know how to do this shit but I'm out I'm some wrapping circles around this report card I like this idea for sure we'll find a beat that you both agree on and then you both do a performance at the no jumber store we'll put them on YouTube and we'll see what what people say who Snoopy badass
Starting point is 00:59:51 my friend or whoever whoever that is whoever you want to bring I'm outwrapping them you do that and I spin a block on it then what then you're ready for the next contender
Starting point is 01:00:05 all right bet trying to make this a tournament I like that Dr. Dre or DJ Quick DJ quick why if you don't mind me asking I don't think Dre fuck with niggas he left the West for dead
Starting point is 01:00:23 you feel yeah man I'm not mad at that line and thinking you might be on to something did I ask you Chris Shaw at Victory lap already no you ain't asked me that okay now I'm asking that Dre must be in his own head
Starting point is 01:00:36 a billion dollars to put you there to live in his own head to be that great musically and to have put out like fucking pretty close to nothing over like the past 10 15 20 years whatever I mean it's pretty wild but we watch that movie and we watch what you come from and if that's real
Starting point is 01:00:52 my nigga you're you one of us you feel me you need to tap Been really into the whole West Coast, nigga? Yeah, do it again. Why we all can't have a beat by Dre? I agree. Why are you trying to kick back and just let that legendary shit just go on for yourself and just don't do nothing else?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Like, tripping. You're talking about the same person that watched his brother, his own little brother, sit and sleep on floors and couches and... Couches. You feel me, shit like that while he was on tour. Oh, he was on tour. Selling millions of records. No brother died while he was on tour.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I'm talking about Warren G. I wasn't talking about his brother that passed. I wouldn't speak on anyone's damn relative. I'm talking about Warren G being his little brother and was sleeping on couches and left behind. He wasn't on death row. He left him. He couldn't even come on tour.
Starting point is 01:01:33 He went to the airport and he told him to turn around. Like, you're not coming with that. I feel like Dre has always been selfish. I never really saw Dre as a real anchor. I'm saying, I ain't speaking like on because of his brother, day. I'm saying real shit. Didn't happen to you like a real nigga like us. You was right there with them niggas when they went through all that fucked up shit
Starting point is 01:01:51 with Shug and whoever. The nigger EZEZ was dealing with. you're supposed to be on some shit with us like because we looked up to you we looked up to that movie we looked up to your role we look up to the shit that you did the shit you accomplished why you don't want to fuck with us did dr dr dr dr drey abandon the west coat why he didn't fuck with nip this is it
Starting point is 01:02:14 why he didn't fuck with nitt until after nipsey passed then they do the diamond mine record together i said this you see how nip felt yeah he said it in a couple songs only nigg made out oh why did he say i'm the only nigga to make out the west without dr I feel like Nipsey made a bar like that before, too. Mm-hmm. All right, Blas, Abino. Blass.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Good Kid, Mads City or My Crazy Life? Good Kid, Mass City. I disagree with you, dear. Wait, run that back? Good Kid, Mad City or My Crazy Life. YG's debut album. Good Kid, Mad City. I disagree with you there.
Starting point is 01:02:48 My Crazy Life is my favorite rap album ever, period. Don't shoot. Don't shoot. Dead homies don't shoot. Uh, greet on Kaylin. For real, for real. I'm going to have to go with Kalin, bro. And why is that?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Because that's my cousin. That's your real cousin? Yeah, and I don't go against the grain. You feel me? We had our little conflict due to my viral tweet. Uh-huh. We had a big back and forth. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You didn't see that? I didn't see you and Kaylin get into. I swear. That was the biggest back and forth than with Ralphie. I didn't see that, bro. Kaylin actually went live. And I don't... Your cousin, Kailin?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah, and he went live with T.Rill. Up here? No, there. No. Wherever they was. He went live with T.Rail. I didn't see this. And T.R.L. was DMing me.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Hey, Kailen go live. Join us. They already had a plot going on. With your cousin? With my cousin. So I'm like, what the fuck? You know, when hell of people tagging you in alive, it's all in your motherfucking notifications.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So that's all I see is my name and notifications. I'm like, what the fuck? The motherfucker is tagging me. They on there talking about me or something. So I click it, and it's him and T-Rail, and they requested me to join the live. I joined it live. He's coming at me. I'm thinking this is going to be about the tweet, and it's just, he actually saying, like,
Starting point is 01:04:20 why you feel like you're the only talented? I feel your pain. I didn't know certain people was going to take the tweet out of context because we like, you know, we know each of this didn't have nothing to do with. But you write the word talented, maybe had people in a shambles. But yeah, yeah, but that,
Starting point is 01:04:39 for that to be your cousin, I still wouldn't think he would think he was talking about him, but. Yeah, right, I'm not talking about, I wasn't talking about him. Not most of these niggas I wanted to talk about, but I get on a live with them and they just, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:51 coming at me, Tirel laughing, and Kaelin's just saying what he's saying, I'm saying what I'm saying. I said what I said. You feel me? Ooh, you take it the way. took it. Why are you wearing a shoe? Ain't you my cousin? I said that on the live. Now everybody in there
Starting point is 01:05:03 old, hey cousin, they're cousin. He was like yeah. So I feel like I'm your cousin. Why you don't even fuck with me like that? Or why this and why he questioned me and shit? And I'm like, damn, I'd be wanting to fuck with niggas but niggas don't reach out the big spiff. Like, niggas don't talk to me. Niggas don't do songs with me. Niggas don't include me
Starting point is 01:05:21 and shit or studio sessions. I'd be seeing everything going on. Who's the big cousin? I'm the big cousin. You're a big cousin. You're a big cousin. Okay. So when we're doing it back and forth, it ended on, all right, we said what we said. Da-da-da-da-da. I never, that's the reason why I got to go with Kalin, because we're not going against the grain. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:05:44 It ain't got nothing to do with 0-3. I fuck with O-3. I fuck with O-3. Last one for me, Todd Al-San or T-Fly. T-Fly. Okay. What you think? For a feature?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Damn. For a feature, I'd rather go with... Todd Dollar sign or T. Fly. I'd rather listen to Tadalai song. I'd rather listen to Tadalai music, but I'd rather get the T-Fly feature. That right there. That's how I feel. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I could have said that like that. That's how I'd rather have the T-Dah sign feature, but T-Fly hard. Okay. T-fly hard. All right, cool. Anything else? I got a question. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:28 if it was a petition up what is a petition to you a petition is when you give people to sign something and make a change in regards to something if it was a petition up along do you think this could happen
Starting point is 01:06:47 if it was a petition that said we could swap Nipsey out for WAC 100 oh my God do you think it'll happen long live Nipsey Hustle me we can't just go trading
Starting point is 01:07:03 the living for the dead. But do you think that petitioner? You can't normalize witchcraft. If that was real, do you think everybody assigned it? Do I think that Nipsey during his lifetime was more popular? Like if you had done like a presidential
Starting point is 01:07:16 popularity type poll? Yeah, that might be, that might be fair. That might be fair, right? I don't think we should exchange the living for the dead, though. That's a scary prospect. You wouldn't exchange the evil for good? I don't think Wax evil. And I'm not 100% sure.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Nipsey was good as you're making them. It seemed like a cool guy, but I'm not sure, like, you know. I like Nipsey's business model, but I don't want to really entertain your question. But I will say that Nipsey's business model has definitely been a huge inspiration to me with the whole Proud to Pay thing. So I'm going to go with Nipsy business model. I'm just conscious of, like, putting people in buckets of like, oh, this is a good person and this is a bad person, even though obviously that's what you're, I mean, you called Wax Satan.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I mean, but yeah, if you see it from just the outside looking in and from how to worldview it, that petition will be signed in less than 0.0 seconds, right? I'm right or wrong? I don't know. Hopefully people would not sign this morbid petition. I most definitely will. I was signing to a hundred accounts and sign a fuck out of that. You want to electronically see it.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I'm signing the fuck out there. Dejan or Flaco. You can only keep one. You can only keep one. Flacco said don't care about no L.A. rap, nigga. At least I care. He said that? Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Dejan. It's all good, man. Why is he just going off, like, your selfish reason and stuff? Like, how it benefits you. Oh, man. Goodbye, Flaco. Well, that's what you said. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I got to be Switzerland on this. I don't know what he said about L.A. but if he shit it on all of us, nigga, fuck him. He said LA rappers, what did he say? Over or done? One of those verbiages. He said that the only ones that he did care about was Big Sad Wally and Grito,
Starting point is 01:09:12 but in two months, Grito would be done as his wording. And because we both heavyset brothers or whatnot, everybody thought, I don't know who said it, but it was him who said it. I don't feel that way. If L.A. Rappers over, my career is over.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You feel me? If L.A's at 10, I'm at 10. If L.A. is at 10. I'm in 10. If L.A. is at 1. L.J.J.J.J. is at 1. That's how I feel it.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm right there in the truth. You love L.A. I love L.A. rap music is all I've ever done, really, to be honest. That's what's up. Yes, sir. People don't like you. That's good. People don't like L.A. music sometimes.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Some people don't like it. We got to work on it. And in person, everybody knows it. People just don't like me on the air. In the Reddit, he's got a lot of admirers. Huh. You do. You be on Reddit?
Starting point is 01:09:53 You read it? Nah, I just know that you got people that fuck with you. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. Like I said, In person, it's all love. What about you? You get, because you're hated as much as I am on LA Twitter, believe it or not.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We're both in the same both because you're tweeting my report card. But in person, do you ever get negative experiences in person or is it all love in person? Just like it's all love. I haven't had that one bad experience, I swear to God. I ain't had one bad experience. Okay, that's good. That's a good thing. And I'm not going to have one.
Starting point is 01:10:22 That part, same here. It'd be all love anytime anybody seen me. The wildest fan interaction. so far Wildest fan Sloppy top Yeah Sign titties
Starting point is 01:10:36 What Adam said Gifts Do people bring you Stuff to your shows His head After every show I get topped off After every show
Starting point is 01:10:48 For real Do I I I was podcasting was like that What You got the best of both For us right now A mob of people
Starting point is 01:10:57 Outside waiting a second You got the best of both worlds right now. Stop playing. Yeah, I must have a whole plug talk. Yeah. That's work. Oh, man. What's up with that?
Starting point is 01:11:05 How could I be a porn store? You got to send the dick picks. Nah, that's over with it. You, but you see how you play like that. But you see how you let? That's why I'm trying to. I'm saying, if I wanted to join the porn world, don't play with them dick games at them.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Listen. This ain't one of them. I'm chair checking shit. All the male porn stars I know. I'm chin checking shit. When we are like around. around each other with voters, it's not a big deal.
Starting point is 01:11:33 So you gotta be able to fit in that environment. I like big booty bad bitches on the dead homies with nice ass bodies with nice ass hips with pretty ass faces. I like the fuck they pretty ass faces. I ain't with all that weird ass other shit. That's why a nigga on whack. We ain't with all that weird shit, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:50 On the dead homies. That's why we're tripping on whack. You're merching on whack. Yeah, we tripping. Damn. We're tripping, bro. We ain't with that shit, bro. got through the interview with our incident.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Maybe I can get him to make a song about you now. Hopefully jump in that booth, nigga. He don't rap. We'll make one of his little guys do it. One of his artists? Yeah. I do not want to see any of wax artists and Speedfitt. Who?
Starting point is 01:12:14 I'm not going to say, I don't want any of his artists. Who is his artist? You know his roster? If Young Magnificent drops a tape on you. Boom. You go with True Car? You familiar with you car? Yeah, I don't want to see y'all be.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I want to see y'all do records together. No, I ain't going to be. for truth card that's my nigga true car's real solid but i don't yeah any other nigga though put them up against me hmm all right any last words for the people out there it's been filigiano you do say your name is beginning a lot of songs i'm not supposed to i didn't say that i said you do say your name on the beginning of a lot of songs you fuck with it huh what you say uh you got to brand that shit huh it's gratuitous You know your ass in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:13:00 A lot of motherfuck. I'm gonna make a lot of people on this report car happy in this bitch. It's all good, Spiffy. Yeah, it's all good. We good for life. I fuck with you. Likewise, bro.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Let them know one of the ones is coming on February 20th. Hey. But the next time I see this, some shit like this. Uh-huh. Where that shit out? Right there, right there.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah. That ain't straight, bro. You know, great? That ain't straight, bro. 58. Work on changing it. That's not. That ain't straight, bro.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Okay, you're right. 60. Slightly higher. That's how you feel, Adam? I would have to take a look. I haven't been chosen to commentate on this. Ooh, an Adam 22 report card. There you go.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I'd rather fuck with your report card. Oh, wow. I would never make a phone. Because I know I wouldn't get an F. As soon as I look at this and... I know I wouldn't get an F. You know, like just the idea of putting this together. Behind that F box.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Hey, a lot of people. The idea of making this gives me anxiety. me, Al-Dajon or something? Yeah. He was going to kill me. Yeah. My young niggas back there ready to get you behind that F. Hey, man, it's all good. If you want to diss him on a song, there's all kinds of mustard puns.
Starting point is 01:14:09 He's done that before. I did it. Oh, you did it. You did that mustard puns? I did it. He's, yeah, he's dissed him on that, uh, on that, uh, corner store, uh, LA. I posted it. Yeah. I posted it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I'm I don't want to fuck. Should I give a fuck about Dejan list? It's a piece of shit. Don't drop my fucking card like that, Spiff. It's a piece of shit Don't drop my shit like that Here this one back I ain't fucking with that
Starting point is 01:14:34 I don't want you dropping this one I ain't fucking with that F These copies costs I ain't never got a F You got one now And don't drop my damn list I got these laminated And everything
Starting point is 01:14:47 Now that's fucked up Standing on business Hey Why you be standing on business behind me Nick? What do you mean? Every time somebody got something to say You reverse it
Starting point is 01:14:56 You're a spiffy hard Spiffy, one of the hottest rappers coming out of L.A. I mean, I think you're pretty good rubber. I'm gonna look like shit. Bow. Why you feel like that? I'm an op lover.
Starting point is 01:15:10 He liked that fucking song. You love that fucking song. You love whack. You love whack. I like to stand up for the people who I feel like are underrepresented, right? I feel like, you know, people sometimes give you a hard time,
Starting point is 01:15:21 but I think you've heard dope. I just feel like a lot of people wanted to know to answer to that question. Like, damn, why is Adam? You feel me. Everybody asks me why. So yeah. I'll love it.
Starting point is 01:15:30 That's actually my clothing line that I've coming out. Oh, well. I better get packages at the front dough. You know, I make extra lodges. That's the size clothing I wear. You're going to be on the board, buddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah. One X. Spiffy Luciano. Dejano. Yeah. Rapprappar Port Card. Let's go. No Jumber.
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