No Jumper - Supreme McGriff Jr on Being The Son of a Drug Kingpin, 50 Cent Beef, Tony Yayo & More

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Supreme talks about his upbringing, his dad's street activities, Irv Gotti, 50 Cent, Yayo, Flakko/Akademiks comparisons, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know, 16 and Flacco got into it. Who he spit on? Flacco. Okay. Ah, yeah, that's where you know Flaco from. No, but I'll be watching, like, Flaco. Like, I feel like, because he's so, he's like academics. He's like baby academics.

Literally. Came right out of Axe Nutsack. So I feel like he, he, like, people hate academics, they're going to hate anything like him. So I feel like they, like the camera, the spotlight is on him because he act like academics. So it's a good thing and a bad thing, you feel me? But it's more good, though, because people want to watch it just to see what the maybe academic would say. And he's funny, and then his stutter makes him funnier.

You think, like, if flaco gets ran down on, that it kind of is like a bad look for ACC? Because that's like his son. No. No, I don't think nobody run down on Flaco, though. Well, I mean, he did get spit on. That's, but, yeah. That's the first step. But he said, nah.

No, but if you watch that interview, he was pushing 16 to the limit. He was pushing his buns on purpose. Yeah, I feel like 16 played into his hands a little bit. Maybe, but I was, normally I would be so upset if somebody violated one of the hosts or spit on one of the hosts. But when I watched that interview, I was like, Flacco was asking for it. I could see it. Yeah, you can't really just call somebody a cloud chase to their face over and over and over like that and just think it's going to be cool, right? Do you think getting slapped or getting spit on there's the worst, this is the most disrespectful thing you can do to you?

I rather you slap me because then we want, if you spit on me as old, I don't know. Both are so bad. Both are so bad, but the spit is just even worse to me. I don't know. What if they spit on your booty hole? Smack you, knock you out, then spit on your booty hole. That happened to somebody. They happened to everybody.

It's a new wave. That's the thing in jail. You're doing that in New York jail too? Listen, man, that's going to be happening in jail now? It made it sway there. Wow, really. Upstate. I wouldn't say New York like Rikers, but if somebody knock you out to violate you,

they're going to spin your ass. Ever been a better time for a no homo than when you? you just spit on someone's ass after you knocked them out. I don't know how you. So you're really getting violated in three different ways because you got knocked out, somebody spilling your ass, and they're going to talk about it.

That's why they're doing it. The trifecta. You got to violate it three times. You got to live with that. Take me to Nebraska. I don't want to be in the New York prison. No, they probably r-you in Nebraska, like actually penetrating.

I'd almost rather get a r-wrought than just have somebody to spit on my boo. We got to interview the guy who started the savage life. Remember Tate said he knows the person who invented it. Adam, you're a kinky dude, man. You said you're ready to get rid of this. You're a kinky dude, man. Just kidding.

I take it back. Because in reality, the spit would be way better. It's way less intrusive. But it's just as disrespectful, I guess. Anyway, we're supposed to call you P2 for the introduction? Supreme Junior P2. Right. Which everyone would roll over your tongue, easier pose.

Definitely. And you supreme the fuck out today. Got a rep. Got a rep. Got it. You never seen nobody with no goggles and no gas. or not the same time. That is actually crazy, though,

that Supreme came up in a pre-Supreme era. The Supreme Forces. Before there was... Supreme the clothing line. There was Supreme, the street legend. That's it. Yeah. You feel me?

That's it. I mean, there's a couple other dudes named Supreme, but I feel like he was the influence, though. You feel me? Because there's nobody bigger than him with that name. I'm starting off saying nobody bigger than him. They've been killing me talking about nobody bigger than him, but...

In a specific world. Yeah, with the name, Supreme, it's like a godbody name. Like Supreme means the most high. Oh, that's the origin of it? Yeah, that's the origin. So, yeah, so he was, his teacher named him Supreme. The dude who, like, taught him about Islam.

The godbody, the 5% nation. Right. And then, like, a whole bunch of other people just started taking on that name from Brooklyn, from the Bronx. Like, it had been a whole bunch of other Supremes, but he's the biggest one. Right. So your mom and Supreme were together. Were they ever, like, together for a long period of time?

They were together since 84. Okay. How many kids did he actually have? Okay, well, I just found out recently. Well, none been confirmed besides me, but him being who he was, him doing his thing. Probably got 10 kids, probably got 20 kids. Who knows? Right.

But none confirmed. Okay. Yeah. And so your life was like, how much was he in your life as? I mean, he went to jail when I was four. Four? Yeah. It wasn't really nothing.

Right. But I mean, yeah. But I feel like that's like normal when your dad or your mom is in the streets, though. Like, jail is inevitable unless you're going to tell, but he would never do no shit like that. So he's going to be going. So your mom was like a part of the street life? My mother, I'm saying if your mom was a part of the street culture or in that realm, jail, death or like ratting is inevitable.

You feel me? Like, that's what's going to have. That's what you're going to get with that unless you make $2 million and get out. but who really have that mind frame. If I made $2 million this quick, I'm going. Right. You feel me? So a lot of people don't think like that, longevity.

But so at what point do you start realizing that your dad has this reputation? Probably like 11 or 12. Like I'm going to the barbershop in my neighborhood. And like I'm going into barbershops and like the guys in the barbershop. Like, yo, that's Bremson. Yo, come here. Yo, they're giving me mad wads of cash and like buying me sneakers. It's taking me this, going here, doing this, giving me the keys to their car.

And I'm like, yo, Ma, who the fuck is this guy that everybody's saying this is my dad? Because, you know, me and her never really talked about it. So she finally sent me down and she told me like, and after she told me that, I was like, oh, I can use this guy to get what I want. Oh, let's do that. Right. So were you still growing up in New York? Yeah.

In Queens at that time? Yeah. In Queens, like literally in Queens. Yeah. Literally. And like right in the middle of everything where he was moving around, like I'm right there. All right, because he was from Basley Projects. Yeah.

All right, so where is that? He lived in the houses across from the projects But that's in South Jamaica, Queens though All right, and you grew up in South Jamaica Queens? I grew up four blocks away from the projects In house, I was in a house

But I grew up like four blocks away from the projects though Was your mom ever concerned That his enemies might do something to her or you? Absolutely Really? So you grew up? I never went to school in Queens Really?

I went to school in Manhattan, private school my whole life Wow My mom, I'm my mom's only kid So she was like very like Like very overprotective Like she, I'm like her only thing that she has, you know? How long you got to sit on the bus to go from Southside?

I had a driver. Oh, yeah. That's far as fucking right. It's like an hour. Okay. Like an hour, maybe 45 minutes on the train. Right. It's like different planets.

Yeah. Manhattan and Queens is polar opposites. A lot of people who grow up in South Side Jamaica, Queens will probably never go to Manhattan. Or they'll go like once a year. Let me tell you a funny story about that. Yeah. So like me in high school, like I was dealing with like a lot of the Catholic school girls.

And like, I would bring them to like, neighborhood and the guys would look at them like you just bought white girls and Spanish girls to the neighborhood like you're a king because they wasn't used to that they were used to the regular average girls in the neighborhood stuff like that when I started bringing the people I was around from the city to Queens and then bringing my friends with me to the city it was like a shell shock to them so I feel like I'm like the gatekeeper in the way you was bridging the gap so you said you had a driver taking you to and from school yeah so I'm guessing when your dad

got locked up you still had some money flowing no but it wasn't from him though was my mother. What was she up to? She's at a legal job. She works like, she's like a under, it's the commissioner, and then it's her position, her title. I forgot the name of her title, but like my mom, and even when she was dealing with my father,

she was always working, like. So was it a thing where, like, you were super well known and, like, everybody knew about your dad in south side of Jamaica, Queens, but then you go to Manhattan, it's, like, not an issue at all. But, you know, so crazy, it kind of spilled over into high school.

Really? Because of the kids start getting, Because the rap music, he's saying, people saying his names, and then it might be two kids in the school from Queens, and then they might know who I am, and then they pass it to somebody that passes to somebody in this paying telephone before you know the whole school, know who I am. So it kind of like, I feel like when you run away from stuff, it's still going to find you. Like you can run however far, but it's going to find you, you feel me? Me being who I am, it found me. Like my mother couldn't shelter me from it. She couldn't hide it.

what's your read on why your mom might have ended up in a relationship with somebody who was basically like a drug kingpin? Because like at a certain point you got to kind of look at your mom and be like, damn, like that says something about you that you chose to be in a relationship with somebody who was living such a high risk life. Not really because maybe he turned it off when he was with her. Right. Maybe he wasn't that person when he was with her. Maybe he was all the way in before he even let her know. Like that's what I'm doing. Yeah.

And also you got to remember too, like in the 80s, like either you were selling drugs or doing them. True. It was a lot more normalized at the time. Yeah, especially in New York. So, I mean, like, oh, I'm dating a drug deal. Like, that was the norm, like you just said. Like, you know, like, I don't think that's outlandish or far-fetched for a woman to be dating a drug deal in the 80s or the 90s. It's a regular shit. So what was your relationship like with any of the other guys that were a part of the Supreme Team?

Because when your dad got booked, though, I'm pretty sure some of his homies were still around trying to be in your life. Yeah, some of them, some of them are, like, uncles to me. Like, those are some of the guys that was in a barbershop taking me places, giving me money, you know, showing me different things. trying to school me, stuff like that. So I definitely have like a good relationship with like maybe a good five or six of them. That had just did a crazy bid. They had done 10 or 15 years or 18 years or 20 years.

So like I feel like somebody coming from that life, their day time was solid. And then they came home and then started like a legal business or doing something productive. That's the person that I want to learn from. I don't want to learn from somebody that did 20 years, came home and still trying to be in the game. Like you just wasted 20 years of your life.

why do you feel like you still want to do this? Don't come back to doing what you're doing. That doesn't make, I'm a logical person. I'm probably the most logical person you ever meet. So if it don't make sense to me, I don't want to be around it. So after again, so you said your dad got locked up when you were four years old. Was all, what was the circumstances for money at that time? Like, did you have to, your mom?

No, never wanted for nothing. She was making paper. I was in private school, bro, driving the school in Range Rovers my whole life. My mother never, my mother never let me want for nothing. Never. All on her dime. Nothing to do with him. All on her.

Like she, my mother's a beast. She's a go-gitter, bro. I feel like that's where a lot of people say I remind them of him until they meet my mom. And he'd be like, yo, nah, you're your mom's twin. You act like her. Your work ethic. But before they meet her, they say, yo, you're your dad twin.

And then they meet her. They'd be like, okay, never mind. Right. And so what was your perspective on the streets? Because obviously you're growing up in an area. Like, you might be going to private school and stuff, but you're also meeting people. You're kind of in this area.

You're probably like hearing all this. shit is it something where you thought the streets were this this cool thing that you wanted to get involved with or were you looking at some hell yeah i thought it was cool to get involved in it because i was a nerd like i was playing baseball i'm in catholic school you know you always want to know what's the unknown right you always want to go explore the unknown so i'm like people telling me yo your pops is this your pops is ill yo you got to be like cam you got to move i'm like like you can't tell a 13 14 year old kid that shit because that shit going to get in his

mental and he's going to really want to pursue that. So I'm like, damn, let me go. I never sold drugs and none of that stuff, but I was around the street stuff. I'm in, like, I was, like, interested in it. I wanted to, but people were like, get the fuck. Go play baseball. Chill out. But I still was searching

for something, though. Because I wanted to live up to that name. Right. Like, I wanted to be like, yo, I'll see the admiration that he got. So I'm like, yo, I want that too. Like, I love that. He's like an NBA player. He's like a rapper. Yeah. So I wanted that. No, definitely. That must have been kind of weird.

But like, do you recall, like, a certain point where you started to realize, like, all right, maybe I don't want to actually be going in this direction because you start, because obviously, like, your dad's doing this long-ass prison bid. But when you're a young-ass teenager, you're looking at that and you're thinking like, yeah, that is fucked up. But that's not, like, as a kid, it's so hard to see the repercussions of the shit that you might get into. So even something like your dad doing 20 years in prison, life. He got life. life, right? That might not be enough to make you realize, like, oh, I don't want to take this risk. Well, I feel like the older you get, the more mature

you get. So, you feel me? Even if you was, even if I was doing it, you know, if you fall and bump your head a couple times, you're going to say, damn, I don't want to fall no more. That shit hurt. So, I mean, I didn't really have to go through nothing extreme to make me realize, like, yo, this is not what you're supposed to be doing. Like, I seen a little right, I'm a person that take heed to the writing on the wall.

Like, if I see the signs on the wall, I ain't going to say, man I'm gonna take I'm gonna pay attention like yo why I keep seeing these sounds on the wall maybe this isn't the right direction I need to be going so I'm a quick I I found out quick like street life ain't it yeah it's not it what was your relationship like with your dad after he got arrested were you keeping up with him going to visit him we we we um were more so writing letters like I would talk to him on the phone but the letters was like real heavy like so yeah and he always was trying to be like teach me militants like be militant watch who you're around watch your surroundings, just don't do this, make sure you circle the block.

Like, he was like a real, like, real militant person, bro. Like, it wasn't, I tell everybody, it wasn't like the typical father in some relationship. Like, he was like on some man-to-man shit. Like, he was trying to instill in me values that he knew at his age when I was a kid. So, like, I grew up a little bit different, a little bit more structured. Teenagers aren't structured, you feel me? And boys, they develop slower than a female. But I felt like I was more.

than more structured because I had him and other male figures that was schooling me on what to do and what not to do. That was going to be another question I had for you. So, like, did your mom, like, have another boyfriend after your dad got locked up? Did you have, like, another role model in your life? No. I never, I never seen another guy. Really? And I joke with my mom, like, still to the day, like, yo, if he came home, you probably were, like, she was like, boy, get out of here.

But I know that, though, because, like, my mom. because why you didn't have another boyfriend Right You get what I'm saying? Like She just gave up on I want to say gave up Maybe she just hit it from me really well

Yeah I can't I can't speak on her personal life Because I don't It was her personal life I wasn't you feel me But she never let me see that But even now if she was like dating You would probably kind of

Figure it out at a certain point right Yeah At some point it's gonna get serious enough With a guy that you end up having to meet him Yeah but I didn't know no baby boy shit though Like you see how baby boy was with his mother Like he was like I'm like If you make my mother happy

Like I don't you feel me You don't have no relationship with me. I'm a grown-ass man. I don't want no relationship with another man. Right. But make my mother happy. Do your job. And then we're good, bro.

You got my blessings. But, I mean, one, I'm not a person that give you multiple chances. One chance. One thing you do wrong. But that, like, what you're describing, I feel like it's so uncommon now. But for the older generation, like, I have known a lot of people throughout my life who the mom maybe gets divorced when she's 30, 35, and just never really gets into another relationship after that. Like they just kind of look at it as like they never wanted to get divorced in the first place, but remarrying or dating.

Like, I don't know. It's just like, it's different like cultural stigmas around. I don't really, my mom is a loner. Like, she's comfortable with her own skin being by herself. Like she has a lot of friends. She's an introvert and an extrovert at the same time. Like, she has a lot of friends. She's the life of the party.

She'd go out. She chill. But she's like she thoroughly enjoys being by herself. Right. Like she doesn't mind being by herself. So I don't, she probably didn't feel like she needed another person. And going through something like that. him she probably was traumatized like I ain't doing this shit no more like work and it's like if you've

kind of been to the top of the animal kingdom exactly it's got to be kind of weird to go down after that's like that's like with kim Kardashian like how you go from Kanye to Pete Davidson like right how you drop off that much but at least Pete Davidson is a millionaire he's super famous and you know yeah I mean like those things like that's that comparison that yay you can't leave yay though that yay is like yay yeah yeah yeah is also out of his fucking fucking mind at this point. Pete is too, though. Yeah, you might be right.

But in general, like, her dating a footlogger manager would have blown my fucking mind. Her dating like a guy who's on SNL every week, it's like, okay, yeah, I'm not that supposed. But then again, you got to look at it from like, okay, maybe me being at the top of the totem pole didn't work. So let me go to the bottom and see if that might work for me. Females think weird, bro. Like, you can never pinpoint something with a female because their brain just,

just like, crazy. Right. So when we talk Supreme team, everybody, we have to mention this guy, 50 cent. 50 is. Go ahead, finish it, finish, finish. 50 names comes up every time we talk about Supreme because they had like this. Yeah. There were their like, you know what I'm saying, arch nemesis, rivals or whatever.

All right, so how do you know? 28. So what age were you when you first started hearing about 50 cents? You were born in 95? Yeah. 50 blows up in 2002. or 2002, sorry, yeah, 03, that time period. Eight years old.

And I was a fan. Like, how can you not be, like, I'm not a liar. I'm not going to get on nobody's camera and nobody's screen and lie. Like, he was the biggest, I'm from Queen. I'm from New York. He's the biggest thing moving. Like, I was a fan. Like, I had, well, remember I told you?

I found out about who my dad was when I was, like, 12, 11, 12, 12, 13. So you were a 50 fan for a while before you just figured out. That's all about to say, like, yo, I had posters of this guy. Like, I was, I knew every word to every song. Like my mother used to buy me the G-U-N-S sneakers. I had those wearing the du-wags. Like, that was like he was the person. I was a fan.

You didn't have the wife beaters with the striped colored sleeves. I had all that. The G-U-N-N-Tek-Tops. The T-N-Tex T-Tos. I had the T-T-Tex T-T-T. Like, I was a, like, bro, I'm telling me, like, I had his poster, bro. Yeah. Like, and then, like, could you imagine, like, me going through that shell shock?

Like, me finding out my dad is like his arch. I'm like, yo. So how did you find it? out like what's the day like I was like I mean fuck with 50 no more because of you said how do I find out what made me feel that way what made you feel like you can't be a fan or how did you even yeah how did you find out how did I find out about the situation I'm like through the music right do the people in the neighborhood like people telling me people put me on like because if you keep listening to 50 cent you go back to him as his older stuff you're going to start like actually

hearing tales and hearing your dad's name that's a fact that's a fact um I wouldn't even say I'm not a fan anymore. Like, I mean, his music ain't good now, but like a couple years ago, like maybe 2016, I don't have a problem with listening. I know how to separate the person from the art for him.

His music, he, like, he's, he went diamond twice. Like, he doesn't make bad music, you feel me? But I'm a fan of his music. I don't have to be a fan of him. I'm not saying I hate him either because a lot of people always be like,

yo, you hate 50, that's your op. I can't, I'm 28, he's 40 something years old. How can that be my op? That's not my op. Him and my dad is him and my dad. That's not my op. What do you understand from Supreme and 50 cents initial beef and how it initially even started?

What do you here? Well, I just feel like from my knowledge and what I know, I feel like 50 was just mad that my dad didn't want to take on him as an artist. Like, why are you dealing with Murdo and Jarlowling him and you could be, I'm from your neighborhood. Like, sign me, get me sign. mess with me and my dad was with them he my dad's loyal so he's gonna be with the people he's gonna stay with the people he always been with so i guess 50 was like you know what i'm gonna show

you that i'm better than them and i'm gonna murder them too i'm doing it i want to prove to you like you should have been dealing with me the whole time so it was kind of like he idolized or he looked up to my dad and he didn't really like that my dad didn't want to like embrace him like come come come come let me stamp you like he stamped john rule and he stamped at murder ink he i think 51 in that too it's crazy because that that story is almost exactly the same as Gucci and bmf where Gucci like bmf wouldn't fuck with him because he's a robber and he was like too crazy or whatever so then Gucci basically says like all right fuck y'all and does his own thing and then they tried to kill him which is also something i want to bring up is that allegedly

at one point your dad dropped that bag on 52 which must have been kind of weird for you as a kid to even figure out like oh my dad is like allegedly capable of such things but that's why you use the word allegedly that was not proven. We can never really prove it, but I mean, I feel like I don't really base anything that I do of gossip or like

chirps about something. Like, he, I mean, who, and where does it say that he was the one that did it? I don't even, I don't even think that's like a thing. I think people just came up with that own conclusion on their own. I mean, if you watch 50 cent movie, it just seems like your dad was majestic. That's all subjective, though. You feel me? That's all subjective. Like,

it's not proven. But do you really think, your dad wouldn't be capable of putting money on somebody's head? Because to me, it seems pretty obvious that that was the kind of thing that he probably did do at times. I don't think so. Really? I don't think so. I feel like if you're that deep in the drug game at a certain point, like if I was

going to become a guy who's buying and distributing kilos of cocaine, at a certain point, if somebody robs you, you've got to be ready to kill him. Or pay somebody else to kill him. But I feel like it's some people that was in that life that's more diplomatic than others. So I feel like if you know how to cover. yourself and you know how to talk to people and people just respect you off you know how you carry yourself you you might not need to push the button on them but i feel like nobody nobody nothing gets respect like violence like if you're going to be in that world where violence is how things are

resolved at a certain point you don't become king vaughn unless you make it clear that you're down to do some fucking drills yeah yeah that's true that's true but um so if you was in the streets you you think you would drop a bag on somebody for sure I think most street people would probably do shit like that, right? Or they do it themselves. They only don't do it themselves when they get too famous to do it.

I don't think I would agree with that. But the more that we, the more we learn about rappers, whether it's boozy or a young boy or whoever, at a certain point, you start realizing like, oh, once dudes get big enough,

if they're really in the street shit, they start dropping bags on people. Let me ask you this. What about if your rep, you know how they say your reputation precedes you? Yeah. So what if people think that you do that and then they'll like start

that domino effect and now people are even scared to even test you because they think that you would do that. Then all the better. If I'm a gangster and people are saying that I drop the bag on somebody, I'm gonna let him say it no matter what, even if it's not true because that shit is just gonna make you more feared and respected, right? And that might have been his case. People

might have just respect. First of all, he did his time because this is not his first bid that he did, he'd been you know, he did bids before. So if they like, okay, this guy, he did his time, he never told him nobody and he's like maybe have the capabilities of doing that,

let's not even fuck with this guy. Right. I think 50 was probably like the only person that even attempted to like go against or like speak out or like saying ill things towards him. Right. I never heard that because people loved him and they respected him.

Like he was doing basketball tournaments in the neighborhood. He was giving families money. He was like he was a generous person. So I feel like that's when Norie be like, is it better to be loved or respected or something like that? I feel like it's better to be respected. And people forget, though, but the main thing that people would hate on 54

when he first came out was because of songs like Ghetto Karam that basically took all this old-ass street shit and put it into the music and told stories by your pops and whoever else. And people will call him a snitch for that. And 50's response was always, there are books out there that have all this information in it.

So you can't say that I'm a snitch when all this shit is publicly available, which is another conversation we still see playing out all the time where somebody like, Maine will come on here and say, I saw Tate Savage shoot it so-and-so, and then people call him a snitch. And then he says, well, look at this YouTube video and this YouTube video that have 300,000 views that have the same exact shit that I just talked about. But just because it's already out there don't mean you got to say it either.

True. If it's already out there, why do you have to say it? People already know. So I feel like if you add fuel to the fire, you just is guilty. Right. So is that, and that's the fine line between snitching, and just shutting the fuck up. So you do feel like ghetto Koran was draw snitching? I didn't say that.

No, I'm asking. Um, me personally, no. But the people who's in a song, they don't want to be talked about. They're not entertainers. They're street people. So you saying their names and songs, like, what if they still active? Or what if they're trying to change their life? What if they're in church now?

What if they, like, but when he was doing it, he was doing it like as like paying homage, I feel like. But if somebody told you they don't want their name in the song and you know they don't want their name in the song, just respect it. Don't put their name in a song. But I feel like he just was like, yo, I'm gonna do what I want to do and still did it. And the difference between him and like an author is that very few gang members

are gonna go shoot a guy who wrote a book about their crew or whatever. But if you're a participant, if you were a guy who was around when we were coming up and now you're a famous rapper or whatever, being a rapper, you're still basically like in the streets because you're surrounded by the street,

no matter what. So you can understand why him putting in the song to them is way different than a book because realistically, like, less than 1% of the people who listen to that song are ever going to read that book. I don't feel like he did nothing wrong with that song, though. It's a dope song. And he's just paying homage to his neighborhood, to his borough. So, me personally, my thought process, I don't think that the song was wrong.

And I like the song. Like, I used to listen to the song in the car. Like, you feel me? I want to listen to it right now. That's a classic. What's your relationship with Irv Gotti? Because from everybody who kept up with the Supreme Story, Earth, well, what we think is, Irv's money came from Supreme or why did Supreme

I don't know it wasn't none of that I'm I'm so I'm I'm gonna answer that's a two-part question so I love Irv that's that's home team that's family Irv is amazing like he's a musical genius he's into films now like that's my guy I'm riding with him against anybody from me because while what now that's family and you see I got loyalty on my arm like that really mean I'm loyal to who I'm loyal to and um to address the other thing you said about

the whole money thing. Irv was DJing. He was in music. He'd been interning. He'd been with Leor Cohen. He'd been with all of them, like with Rough Riders and doing the thing with DMX

and like, how can Prine be given him? Like, that's what I'm saying. You will see something in the media and people will just blow that out of proportion and then create a whole different narrative and just make it fit their criteria of what they want to promote, like their agenda.

It's impossible for Prine to have given Irv any money. like are you serious but the feds obviously thought that too though because that's what they they just wanted to try to tie them together in a negative way so they can get a conviction so even if it's a lie they still going to promote that lie just so they can get a conviction because they felt like maybe if we attach y'all to him maybe y'all turn on him and just cooperate with us so we can get them and irving his brother chris they didn't do that they that's why i said i can never say nothing bad about neither one of them because the government the feds offered them eight months, and they was facing 25, 30 years.

And they said, yo, if you say that he did this, we'll give y'all eight months. And they were like, no, we're not doing that. So I can never see nothing bad about neither one of them. They saw it. And you're not going to really find people in the music business that would have did that. Were you rooting for job role hard when him and 50 were really going at it? Were you a murder? Were you a fan of 50?

Were you hollering murder? Off the school bus. I mean. Or from the driver. But now, I feel like, I feel like job, people like shit on jaw a lot. Up until like two or three years ago, they were shit on him.

He got an unfair deal in that whole thing, for sure. But I feel like I got, I had to root for Jha. Jaya go up against anybody. I got a root for Jaya. That's home team. I would look crazy if I didn't root for the home team. Who am I?

I'm like, I'm not true to myself if I go against the home foundation. So when they was going at it, I just felt like if he didn't address 50, maybe it would have turned out differently for him. But I feel like everything happened for a reason. And now I feel like Jod's being celebrated more like of the last maybe two or three years.

Like he did the verses with Fat Joe. You know, Josh still doing tours. She's doing shows. She has a wine company now. He's back in film. Like he does a whole bunch of different stuff. So I don't really feel like it just sounds cool and funny to say, yo, 50 murdered that nigger.

Like it just sounds cool to say that. But he really didn't though. Because even though that whole trial was going on with murder ink, then the label thing was going on. So, like, people never talk about that part. They only talk about, yo, 50 murdered that nigga. And this is the thing is that I was one of those kids at the time, because I

was a 50 cent super fan, Juana superfan, but there needs to be a little bit of historical revisionism because the truth is... Revisionism? Yeah. Well, we've got to revise some shit. Because that narrative took the world by storm of, like, a big part of 50 blown up as a rapper was not only the huge

records and everything, but also people love the idea of you taking out a fellow rapper and destroying their career or whatever. That's what the rap game about. But the truth is, is that around the time the 50 came out, people were kind of getting sick of jaw. Like his star was already started because he had become so huge on like a mainstream radio level that people were kind of losing interest.

And then the Fed case and like all this other kind of shit was like going on around the same time. And 50 was going to blow up either way. So he kind of like used that moment to be like, look at this rapper that I destroyed. But the truth is is that was kind of happening. What'd you mean 50 would have blew up either way? I don't think 50 needed to pick a fight with jaw roll to blow up when you have records like in the club and all this other shit coming out at that time.

But that came out after. He was like as soon as he came in the game, he was taking shots at people. True. Yeah. So I feel like. The aura of beef in general, yeah. I feel like he needed murder ink to become who he became in a way. He needed my dad.

Maybe. I feel like to a certain extent, though, the music would have done it anyway and the Dr. Dr. Dr. Co-sign and the M&M shit and everything, you know. You can never dispute the Dr. Drake cosine. Yeah, but definitely it made him appear to be like a more solid gangster-ass dude. The fact that he got shot and survived. And I heard you in one interview saying that you think that he exaggerated how many times

he got shot, which I don't know if that's true, but I definitely believe it's a possibility because he used it for marketing. Everything is about marketing. Yeah. And who, like nobody never going to see him in person ask him, yo, let me see your bullet holes. So, I mean, he could have got shot one time and say, he, You feel me? People do that. Not necessarily just putting all the buck on him.

I'm talking about rappers in general. If they got shot three times to make their self-sell more record, they're going to say, yo, I got shot seven times. People have done that. Historically, people do that all the time. So, I mean, who are we to confirm or deny what happened? But if you really want to think about how fucked up rap is, thinking about the fact that it used to be that if a rapper got shot,

that was enough for their whole next album, et cetera. That made you gangster. That was a rollout. Now, if you get shot, Nobody even really cares, and you basically have to be like a killer or an ex-killer in order to get like that kind of interest from people. Or go to jail and beat your case and come home. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. But it's crazy that you got to go to jail or shoot somebody or kill people to be like sell records. People don't care about the music anymore. It's not just about the art. It's about what comes with it. I mean, little T.J. got shot a whole shit a lot of times, and it's not like he turned into 50 cent where everybody was like, oh, my God, he's so gangster or whatever. But then I feel like getting shot now is more normalized than it was.

back then. Totally, yeah. Which is wild. Which is crazy because Biggie and Tupac happened. They actually died from that. So you would think that it was worse back then,

but I think that it's normal now. Like, oh, he got shot. Okay, did he die? Okay, all right, whatever. That's nothing. Right, people move on. Yeah, move on the next in three days. It's great.

Yeah, things change, right? So, all right, so what was your thoughts on recently? I know you had to see the paperwork that zipped it with the drip drop, but apparently they're saying that Bimmy might have been an informative, form it he did a math

Hoffer interview denying it which I still have to watch you didn't watch it yet have you seen any of his rebuttals Bimmie's rebuttal are they convincing no I mean

I mean like at the end of the day at the end of the day at the end of the day I feel like you don't have to address everything that people say about you you get what I'm saying and then they say oh if you don't if you don't

a rumor that's not denied becomes the truth or something like that but that's not true. I mean, at the end of the day, I feel like Zip did what he needed to do, and I thought it was hilarious, actually. So you thought, baby, he shouldn't address it? He should just be stable.

Why? If somebody called me gay, am I going to go on 17 different platforms to say I'm not gay? Did he do that many interviews? I think he only did, like, he's been on YouTube since that happened. I never seen him that much on YouTube ever.

But now that this happened, like, and then you say you don't play the internet game but you're on the internet. I don't understand that. you get what I'm saying? So being me someone you don't have a relationship with that was a part of the Supreme Court? No, I knew him. And, you know, he gave me a pair of Gucci shoes one time when I was a little kid,

but that's probably as far as it ago. I mean, the way he painted the story was like he took care of me, he paid for my school tuition and all that stuff. But you gave me a pair of Gucci shoes, like, thanks. Right. Well, it said something, because you hear about people all the time who basically their dad gets. locked up and then you never, they never even hear, like Mama Doug, the way that she talks about

some of Duck's old affiliates who never came around or never did anything for her after. But a lot of, but, but a lot of people that you would, at first of all, my dad also told me when I was from young, like, yo, nobody's obligated to do shit for you. True. Like, don't go up to people expecting anything because off the strength of me. Like he doesn't, he wouldn't even allow me to do that. You get what I'm saying? So I always kind of had in my mind.

Like, I used to be mad, though, like, why the fuck I'm not? You get what I'm saying? Like, because he's this person, everybody talks about him and glorifies him. Why nobody's like giving me a job or like, I used to play on my mentor. I used to get mad about that. But now I feel like it's more gratifying for me to work for what I want. And then they see me working and then they come. Instead of them just being like, yo, oh, that's Pramson.

Let me give them a million dollars. Even though that would be cool, I'm not saying don't do that anybody that wants to do that. But like I can work for it. You feel me? Like I don't have an issue working. And that's what I say. I get that from my mom. mom the work ethic is from her like I don't know I don't mind going to Cali to do no jumper then

going to fucking Atlanta to do another interview and then coming back to New York do I don't mind doing that I like I like the work I like the journey it's a weird position for you to be in because it's like on one hand you don't want to make your whole existence predicated on your dad which you really didn't have anything to do with like all the stuff that he did before you were born and shit but then at the same time you do want to like use anything you got it's like if you're a hot girl you're going to use the fact that you're And you got big ass tithes and a big ass. I feel like whatever cards you were dealt in your life,

you're supposed to use them. Right. You can't get your hand and say, I don't want this time, I'm going to turn it in. No, I'm, I got dealt these cards, and I'm going to use them.

Like, that's not me being an opportunity. That's not me. No, I didn't tell God, you all want to be preem son. It happened that way, so I'm going to use it to my advantage. And if people don't agree with that, I mean,

I don't give a fuck if you don't agree with it. So it's more not like an obligation, you don't feel obligated to keep the name alive. It's more just like just working your move. You know he hates that shit though. Really? Like he's like, yo bro, like you don't need to keep my name alive. Like make your name.

You get what I'm saying? But I'm trying to explain to him like, yo, you don't understand the internet. Like me being on the internet could actually help you. You get what I'm saying? But he's like from that era where there was no internet. It was no pictures. They didn't floss anything. Like he's from that era.

But he just doesn't get this era. So, you know, of. a son trying to explain to them to their father it's kind of hard. When he's been sheltered away. Yeah, like he's like, I'm not trying to hear nothing you're saying. Get off the internet.

Stop trolling. Stop arguing people on the internet. But I'm like, yo, like, you don't understand. Like, this is how we can make money now. What kind of life does he want for you? He told me one time, like he had got mad at me one time. He's like, yo, go work at the fucking post office. Go be a garbage man.

Like, why you want to be on the internet? But I can't even be mad at him because he doesn't understand the internet. that like I can make a million dollars on internet and help you come home. He could have been a garbage man too. If I told him. But if I told him that though, it, you get what I'm saying? Like, I probably would never hear from him again.

Yeah. But I mean, it's got to be kind of weird because like I've interviewed Chet Hanks before. And it's just obviously kind of odd for him to be in this position of having a dad who's so fucking famous. And then he has to just like kind of figure out who he's going to be and what his life is. going to be like and everything and he's just you know it's just like kind of a a weird is a cat 22 but that's his dad is like one of the most beloved actors of all time and for you it's from a different thing because it's it's not like you just have this like wholesome dad that you dad's a reputation for being you know ruthless and like you know enterprising in the streets so people are not are gonna kind of expect you to be like

tough to a certain degree or whatever was that ever weird growing up and having people just expect that you need to be on some superhero shit. Absolutely. It was like I said, when you were a teenager, like you can't really, what I learned early is that you can't please everybody. So the people that was telling me, yo, you gotta do it like your dad, your dad wouldn't be,

yo, you got to, yo, you gotta do this. I feel like they was trying to send me off a cliff. Right, because your dad probably, realistically never would have been able to become as big in the streets as he did in this day and age because with technology and surveillance and all this shit, it's just not that many drug kingpins.

these days, realistically. You get caught. You're not allowed to be a famous drug dealer these days, pretty much. Yeah, that's a fact. But a lot of people don't know. My dad had, like, barbershops, laundromats, cab stands. Like, he was a, I feel like he was a businessman before anything.

And I also felt like in that time, like I said before, like, either you were taking them or selling them. So which one would you have rather been doing? Right. Well, you probably would have wanted to take him too, though. I took a lot of drugs in my life. So, yeah. But yeah, but you was either taking them or selling them or a family member was on them.

So I feel like when the environment that you grow, grow up in, you're a product of your environment. So, I mean, what are you supposed to do? And it's also weird where during the 80s, maybe certain crimes would only get you a couple years or get you less than five years type of shit. And then all of a sudden it's 2022. And if they catch you with fucking bricks of cocaine in your trunk.

You're going to get life. Yeah, you're getting thrown in Jeff for a long-ass time. Unless you tell. And now everybody knows what drugs do to you. Whereas in the 80s and shit, it was just not as clear. And like, yeah, you would see some of it, but you would see crackheads and shit,

but then you would also see, like, all these super successful people are cokeheads, and there are nightclubs doing this shit, and it was just like a more normal part of our culture, whereas, yeah, people still do coke and shit, but they understand that they're doing something that is, like, really kind of seedy and on the edge of, you know, being viewed as terrible

by the culture or whatever. Yeah. Do you think he was ruthless? I mean, from what you hear. What you know and what you read? Yeah, I mean, I don't know, 100%. Yeah. What about you?

Yeah, well, you're dad? Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like, you know, It's not. All right. So there's another rumor that you can't be a pussy and end up in that position. You can't be a pussy kingpin?

I don't think so because at some point somebody, if you have millions of dollars or you're making them street and you're a bitch, somebody is going to come and take that shit from you. But what if you have people that protect you though? Then you're not a bitch because you got motherfuckers protecting you. I might be a bit. I can't fight.

But I got security out there that'll shoot somebody for me and I got a lot of people that might do something for me. So it's like I don't need to be a fucking prize fighter, right? Yeah, but what if you, but what if they just do it? because they love you. What they love you for? I'm still paying the bills.

It's still part of my organization. He pays them. At one point, a human being becomes bigger than just himself if you're able to build up an organization around you or whatever. And that's what happened with him. He just became big

because he was able to, you feel me? But I don't feel like that's necessarily me that he was ruthless, though. I mean, you also hear stories that he's probably the one that was involved with Jam Master Jay getting killed. I think they found the people

that did that, or allegedly or whatever like that. People have been already, like, convicted or are they fighting their case for that, I think? Like, I don't... But you heard the rumors that it was connected to your dad. I mean, I feel like every... I feel like they want to put everything bad

that happens in Queens and connected to him in a way. And I don't know why they... I think that's an agenda that they're just trying to push. Like, if something happened to an older guy in Queens, like, oh, yeah, he might have did it or his cousin might have did or his nephew might have did it.

Like, that's just what they want to promote just because who else can we say did it? The rumor was because Jam Master Jay is the one to actually discover 50 cent and he played a part in 50 cent career actually being but when he 50 was with jam master jay i don't even think he was lit like nobody before that yeah it was like the first person who helped him in his career right yeah but yeah just because but like i know people that helped me 10 years ago it didn't really i'm not i'm more lit now than i was when they try that you feel me like just because jam master jay helped him with a record deal that didn't even

amount to anything you think that this guy's gonna that's just that's people think life is a fucking movie like that's a movie script that we're reading right now It's not, like, that's not even realistic. But it is crazy to think that if you became little baby, you know, then everybody who helped you throughout your career that has stories about you early on in your career before you became this crazy superstar are going to be doing fucking interviews on platforms telling regular ass stories about, yeah, one time I seen him and he was falling down drunk outside the club looking like a bozo.

Exactly. And that, if you're a little baby and somebody's got a story about you from back in the day like that, it's huge. You know, that's like you're getting an interview. off telling that story, which is kind of crazy, yeah. I mean, and people, everybody wants to be famous. Fame is like the most severe drug. So I got a story about Adam, or I got a story about you,

and I don't think nobody heard it. I can even, if the story is 4% true, and the other 96% is just me adding shit into it, I'm going to say that story online and go viral. Everybody wants a viral moment. Everybody wants fame. Everybody wants clout. And, like, that's just what it is right now.

You get what I'm saying? I never even thought of it. about this before and I don't want to give anybody any ideas, but that is true is that there are people that whoop my ass 10, 15, 20 years ago and if they were to do a fucking interview with some shitty-ass platform and tell that story, they might get 100,000 views from just talking about beating me up when I was 19. And you know what they're going to do after that? They're going to start a YouTube channel. And then they monetizing and whipping your ass. Damn. So you just gave probably seven people an idea just now. I hope they don't see this episode, yeah. So you never been like a fighter.

I would have fun with it. No, I grew up fighting all the fucking time. I just can objectively kind of look at myself now and be like, yeah, you ain't exactly fucking Brock Lesnar out here, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Like shit. More with John Jones.

What should be for 50 cents some Marquise? Yo, you know what's so funny? I don't think I'm ever going to be able to get away from Marquise or 50. Like the questions, the... What's Marquise up to these days? I never see him. I never... I haven't thought about that name in years.

I feel like I keep him relevant in a way not even trying to be funny but I feel like I keep him relevant nobody was talking about him but everybody needs an op I'm not that's not really my op though I just feel like you know we was young kids we took a picture yeah we took the picture

it was blown out of proportion eyes was trolling because I seen how viral I just said everybody went a viral moment it was going viral on somebody else page I'm like, no, I want some of that traction on my page. I reposted it, and it just took a life of his own. And then everybody automatically just made us into oppositions. I probably played a small part in that, too,

but I feel like it took a life on his own. But that was the first and last time I've ever seen him in my life. Like, I'm not cool with him. I don't know him. We got an opportunity presented to us to fight, do a celebrity boxing match, and I DM'd them. And that's what the DMs was about. Yeah, I did.

Yeah, like, come on. out, bro, you, nobody knows you. Who are you? Yeah, you 50, son. Okay, what else? I'm Prem son. I'm not going to be. I didn't even know you, God. You're not on the internet. How would I know you? So he tried to say, oh, you was fanned out. You want to take a picture. You wanted to, you was DM in your number. Bro, I don't want to be cool with you. I don't like men.

You feel me? But he tried to spin it. So I'm like, okay, you tried to spin it based off what? Like, what would you trying to do? Like, you was trying to get clout. You were trying to go viral because why would you spin it as if that happened? And you know that's not how it happened. because how to fuck would I know who you are at 19 years old 18 I don't know who you are bro

he was in a club we was drunk yo a guy said yo take this picture y'all too he knew who both of us was so when you took the picture you're saying you didn't even know that was 50 cents son I did not know who that was it was another guy I was wit I'm clapped I'm you feel me we're having a good time we drunk

he's like yo yo yo yo come take this picture we took the picture and then that was that neither one of us knew who each other was, bro. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, that's hard to believe not going to lie. Like, damn, there's no way.

So y'all are living in the same area. Y'all got the- Wait, he's from Long Island? I'm from Queens. I don't be in Long Island. You feel what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? There's a huge famous movie about 50-send his dad's-st-

Markis wasn't in the movie, though. But just the lore around it, it just would be hard to believe. Like, damn, both y' y'all didn't know anything about each other at all? No, we didn't, bro. And we still don't know nothing about each other. I seen you got a lot of backlash for taking the pictures, though. Like, what was the backlash? The backlash was because I was trolling.

And people felt like I was trying to separate a father and their son. And I'm like, yo, I have nothing to do with separation. Like, they would have been separated. It's the mother. It's Marquis' mother. It has nothing to do with me. I couldn't fuck up the relationship or help repair it. You get what I'm saying?

But now in hindsight, like 50 in Marquis's relationship, like I understand it a little bit more. I'm looking at Marquise's Instagram right now, and yeah, he's like talking about how he doesn't have his dad's phone number and, like, can't talk to him. Yeah, so, like, you're crying out for help. That's pretty crazy. He's a Twitch streamer, too. But did you know that before you Googled it? No, I just saw that now, yeah.

I haven't thought about him besides, like, knowing his name, like, 20 years ago type of shooting. And then after that, when was the last time you've seen him? I mean, I haven't thought about it. He won't borrow recently for complaining about his dad not giving him money. And then the time before that was the picture with me and him. Yeah. So, I mean, like, why? What did you want to do a celebrity boxing match with me for 50K for three rounds, 20 minutes, 50K?

Why not? There's another boxing match that was supposed to happen to with you and paparazzi Poe, which is also like... Who's that? You know, Parachia Poe. Apple son. You got the Supreme Son, 50 cents son, Apple's son. What if I told you that wasn't Apple's son? What if I told you that?

I've heard that before. But what do you know? That's not his son. Apple went online and said, this is not my son. I don't even know who his mom is. Really? Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, everybody wants a rival moment.

Everybody wants to be famous. Fame is a hell of a drug. I might have to eat some whoops and do my homework on that one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's not his time. We got to dig deeper. I'll ask him about that personally because after we did an interview on a jumper, he sent me pictures of him with Apple, I believe, at a young age, just to clarify that.

You seen those pitches? I think I do. You think? I think I have it in my DM. I want you to show me. I'll show you after. but he sent me pictures to show that that's his father for real. I asked him about it.

He said that's his father. So why you said I think? Because I got to confirm that's him in the pictures, but I asked him to, I ask him to say, yo, since you did the interview, I've gotten a lot of DMs and people saying that you're not really outpost son. So let me ask you a question.

If he's brown skin, right, how can that, if there's a million kids that was brown skin, how do we know that that was him? You get what I'm saying? He, come on, bro. Stop. Stop it, bro. You think he's cloud chasing?

Do I, do I think? Hmm. Do I, I mean, who can confirm or deny it? I mean, it'd be a wild thing to make up, but I haven't. Haven't you seen people do some wild shit? You've been in the industry a long time. I'm sure you've seen some wild, wild off-the-wall shit before. That is true.

So, I mean. Then I think about paparazzi Poe just dropping, slamming the rakes. He was putting on a whole show on here, man. He's a very animated guy. But yeah, yeah. But we were supposed to do a boxing match too, yeah. Where are your relationship For him that?

Where are you knowing from? You know so crazy? You're the one who cut him? Hell no. Hell no. Where are you knowing from? How do I know him? I know him.

Like, he's one of those people that, like, he just be everywhere because he doesn't have a house. So he'll be in, he'll be in, like, seven different areas, and you'll be, and then I might know somebody

that knows somebody that knows him, and then, you know, we hear, you know, it's social media error. Like, but I met him, one of my people that I used to affiliate

with our, not affiliate, I don't want to tell like no gang shit. One of the people I used to be cool with it was cool with him. And like, I never really met him in person. Like, we'll be on the phone, we'll talk, we'll text, maybe once or twice in our life. But I seen what type of person he was early. So I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be around this guy. Like, it just, he has like a black cloud over him for some reason. So I'm like, yeah, I'll pass.

But he posted a picture, like a split screen picture with me, 50, my dad and Marquise. And 16 shot him. seen that picture and that's how I got cool with 16 shot him me and 16 shot him then did mad pause he interviewed me I say content together that sound crazy no I'm sorry um he uh interviewed me like three times and me and him like you feel me like if you go on 16 shot on page he got the supreme shirt on that I made because he did on the radar I told him to come me on the radar and he came and I put him like me and him did a couple interviews but that was because pole posted me on his page So he kind of helped me in a way, I guess.

Right. Indirectly, I'm pretty sure he probably didn't want to help me. And he was-good club. He was trolling. He posted the picture and then, you feel me? Took a life of his own, like a lot of this shit do. I've seen somewhere where you said that your dad is bigger than big meech. Yeah.

Yeah, that started a lot of controversy. Yeah, it did. People were on you about that. But you know why people was on me? Because BMF is being pushed, it being for, fat down their throats right now so people are only people's never going to do homework they only going to go with the obvious answer but sometimes the obvious answer ain't always the answer you feel me so if he has a tv show he's mad documentaries little meets is lit they do you feel me like they

he's more recent he's like in the early 2000s you feel me so my dad was in the 80s and the 90s so of course people are going to be arguing me about a whole bunch of they don't even know and when I say more legendary to reiterate I'm not knocking me I don't have nothing against meech. I like Meach. I like Little Meach. I like Terry. I love the movement.

Everything. Like, it's none of that. I'm not trying to create no fake ops, number one. But I just feel like they change laws. They changed the law because of my dad. People wanted to like, people wanted to like, you get what I'm saying? Meets probably took a page out of his book. And then you feel me?

He came before. So it's not necessarily me knocking Meach. You get what I'm saying? Nobody wanted to wear no full X white T's, bro. You feel me? Like people wanted to wear the, time they did. People wanted to dress like my father and his crew. You feel me? So when you say legendary, it's just like you was innovative. You was doing stuff before everybody

else was doing the people that's more relevant now, they took a page out of your book. So how can they be more legendary than you? It's weird because this isn't stuff where people were keeping track of how many kilos were sold. Because that is how you would break down, like who put in the most work, or this guy was running this area for 10 years, and this guy was only doing it for eight years, and this guy saw 50,000, you know, all this shit. Nobody knows. And there's legend every status equate to money because I don't think it does. And how many people were familiar with what was going on with Atlanta and New York at the same time?

Because that's really, if you were around during both eras and were kind of in both cities, that's really like the only people that would be able to have like a super valid opinion on it, I think. And which is nobody on the internet. Which is damn near nobody. Which is nobody on it. So I'm saying like it got almost 30,000 comments all in the blogs combined. It got about 30K comments But me, the reason I know that

Is because I like looking in the comments And seeing people talk shit about me Like I love that Y'all leave a comment Yeah, not everybody's fuels me I just like it Y'all leave a comment on this interview And actually y'all let us know

Who y'all think was more legendary Prim Or Meach You see how you just had to think about who Other than Prim? I don't want to say Lou Meach Because that was the next question I was about to ask you What's your relationship with like

With Lou Meach? There's no relationship with him But you feel me? You're cool dude I don't got nothing to guess I'm he cool Do you watch any of your 50 cent TV shows? Never.

None of them? Never. Power, BMF? Never. I mean, there's other shows to watch. I watch Shark Tank. I'm a Shark Tank guy. Love Shark Tank.

Sports, big sports guy. I don't really get into like the... I've been meaning to watch the BMF shit. Actually, as soon as I realized that Vlad saw it as soon as he came out and then interviewed everybody who's alive that was associated with it, I was like, wow, that is ingenious. Why the fuck that? He's very smart. Vlad is smart.

Vlad is definitely smart. It's definitely smart, but somebody could definitely do the same thing with the IP based on your dad, right? Absolutely. And that's what Urugadi said. He's doing a movie. He's not doing a series.

Oh, okay. I'm trying to start the series right now. The Supreme Team series, actually. Stay tuned. What if 50 cent hit you up and say he wanted to do the series? Since he got all the BMF going, he got power going.

Would you be open with 50 cents? You know he bought a garden in Basie, right? Like, it's a garden across the street from the projects where my dad lived at. And he bought that guard in there. Why do you think he bought it? Because he's petty as fuck. Yeah.

But I mean, it might have not been a petty move. He might have just wanted to be like, I don't know, man. Because anything I say about him, people are always going to think I'm talking negative about him, and that's not what I be trying to do. Me telling the truth doesn't mean I'm being negative. It just means I'm fucking telling the truth.

I don't know why people hate the truth so much. You can't ask me a question, and then I have to lie to you about what you to me, then I'm going to have to remember that lie. They remember, like, it's the whole correlation of lies. So me telling the truth is not me hating on nobody. It's not me being nobody's op. It's not me

doing none of that. It's just me just telling the truth, bro. So would you do it? So if you had a bag for you right now, you see he's been successful with a lot of these TV shows. If he wanted to produce the TV show about the Supreme Team, would that be something you'd be... I mean, my first initial thought would be, yeah, I'm doing it. But I would

have to talk to the big homie first. If the big homie don't... Green lighted then you think your dad would even be able to be down for anything like that i think he would need a lot of talking to i feel like he would say fuck now i think he would need a lot of by me but he doesn't have a problem with 50 that's another narrative that's out my dad doesn't have a problem with him either really my dad like my dad's 60 bro but he doesn't hold it against him that he's still talking about him after all these years i don't think my dad really care about what going on the internet you get what i'm saying unless it with me when you've been locked up for that long at a certain point

does it really matter kind of does that does that what's the What's going on the internet matter? Do you, you're trying to come home out of jail matter? You get what I'm saying? Like, it's all about priorities. I feel like at 60 years old. Does it seem like there's a chance that he could come home? He got life, but.

I mean, like I said earlier, like, we've seen some crazies to happen. Right. You got to be optimistic, you feel me? Yeah. And I feel like he had a documentary coming out called the mundane truth. And it's about his trial. So it's like a lot of reenact men's to have the interview people. Like, it's like a documentary series almost in a sense.

So I feel like all of the stuff that's happening now, like, they change in the laws, you know, there's more information out there about what happened. Like, all of this stuff, like, I feel like the stars are aligning to potentially that may be one day happening. I'm optimistic, so. If Kim Kardashian took interest in him, you think he might be home next year? Absolutely. Yeah.

Star power. If you got star power, people advocating for you, of course. Of course. Why not? Yeah. Like Jay Z. Meek Mill, Kim Kardashian. Like, I see who the thing they're doing with Larry Hoover.

Like, you see how Kanye, Jay Prince, and all these people are advocating. for Larry Hoover that is something can come out of that and I feel like people should be doing the same thing from my cousin Prince and from my father right like why not because these guys at the end of the day no matter what the media says about them they were good guys like they helped a lot of families I mean contrary to believe they did help a lot of care they helped a lot of families they did positive shit too so it's not just about everybody does good everybody that's bad why are these people the only ones that's had to suffer

or face the maximum punishment for people change What's your relationship with Prince? I thought he was an uncle. No, that's my dad's nephew, so that's my first cousin. All right. Yeah. Because he had the reputation of being a shooter. He was the hands-on guy from what they say.

And I also feel like that was another narrative because they said he had bulletproof hats and bulletproof BNWs and bulletproof cell phones. Like, yeah, people just make, yo, people really want to live a movie, bro. A bulletproof fitted would weigh like 40 pounds. In the 80s? In the 80s. Like, you see the outrageous shit that these people would be saying? Like, come on, bro. Like, we don't even know.

know if he was a, like, I don't even think he was a shooter, but I think that's just what the narrative was, because he beat all his murders. So, I mean, how could he be a shooter if he beat the murders? Like, if you're not convicted, you ain't that, right? Vaughn beat all his murders. All the ones they charged him with. Okay. But Prince's, but that's your question, that's like, me and him is like this. Yes, to our relationship. That's my God. That's my God. Tony Yeo's career has been kind of, like, resurrected. He's talking on Vlad all the time. Some of the clips have definitely touched on 50s past and stuff about your dad and stuff like that.

Do you respect the narratives that he puts out there? Or is there anything that you think is a little weird? What was one of the thing that comes off the top of your head that you remember him saying about it? I can't even remember. I didn't write this question down. I just thought of it. Well, I seen him.

I seen him. I'll help you all a little bit. Yeah. I seen him on Hoffa and he was like, when you looked in Primm eyes, you see a whole bunch of souls in his eyes. Oh. Another person with some movie shit.

That's like some movie shit, bro. Like, they're trying to make this guy seem like he's the fucking dragon or something. Bro, he was a black dude with green eyes, bro. I mean, that might have been, like, not seen before, but, like, why would you go in Maffaft and say you've seen souls in his eyes? So you basically implying that he was killing people. That feels like snitching even after all these years? I mean, if it's not helping him, it's hurting him.

You feel me? Why he just can say, yo, salute the prame. You know, it is what it is. You had to go be animated and do that. And I like Tony Yeo. If you're 50 or Yeo, it's like you kind of have to hype up your enemies because otherwise what were you fighting against? You have to talk about your enemies

like they were some crazy-ass killers, you know? That's true. I never looked at it like that. They got to kind of, because it makes them seem bigger. Like that's why 50 will still mention your pops after all these years is because otherwise he's just kind of a regular rapper, right?

Yeah, that's true. And that's why I said if it wasn't for him, 50 Koreen might have not catapulted how it did. Like it was like the whole David versus Goliath thing. And it's like 6'9 would have had a bunch of big fucking songs regardless, but if he didn't join the nitrate, bloods then people wouldn't have been as intrigued. Exactly.

You know, you would have just been a SoundCloud rapper. I feel like the world is intrigued and fascinated by street culture and like gang activity and like people, people just are so fascinated by that shit. I mean, yeah, 50 cents said it best. He said America got a thing for this gang. That's a real statement. You probably got you and it tattooed on you somewhere. I don't, but if I had been getting tattoos at that period in my life, I might have.

Yeah, yeah. I would have been kind of cringy. Oh, what about basically projects now? Is it a gentrified or is it still? Hell no. I mean, you got a couple Spanish people in there now, but I don't think it's gentrified.

Hell no. Hell no. It's too far out. It just hasn't got hit yet. Probably. I think Brooklyn was first. I think they was trying to get gingerified Brooklyn first

and then I feel like Queens will probably be next. And then the broad thing the Bronx would probably be last, maybe. I really need to go to Brownsville because when I lived in Bushwick, everybody would, like Brownsville was the bad place

that you could go if you wanted to. People just knew, yeah, but then I hear people telling me it's getting a little gentrified, so I really want to go see what the fuck it looks like. You know the thing about gentrification in New York is? This week, this block would be gentrified and then you turned the corner and it's back to reality. So, I mean, I went, if I were you, I'll probably have

my security with me. Oh, for sure, yeah. Or I'm going to be in an Uber just being real quiet. You might be too. People know you. Yeah, that's the problem. If you, yo, if you can go back to when you first started podcasting or when you started doing your show, would you have, like, done it where, like,

Vlad was behind the camera and, like, you'd not be on camera, but you interviewing the people, like, you want to be, if you wanted to be famous. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I always saw the value in that. And I think Vlad, in a lot of ways, was a genius for realizing that, because it's easier for him to have people take over for him. Like, he has all kinds of different people doing interviews for him. And as long as you're, like, solid at asking the questions, you can kind of pull it off.

Whereas, like, for me to have people who are actually popular co-hosts on here, it is fucking hard. Like, they have to really like you in order to watch you interview somebody on no jumper, whereas Vlad kind of gets whoever. He has a lot of people doing interviews. He just gets journalists to do it, really. Well, he gets, you know, people from hip-hop and everything like that. But if it's just a voice, it's a lot easier for people to listen to, like, just a voice asking someone questions. But I also see that when they know that is Vlad talking, the interview, do better numbers.

So let me ask you this. So when you, based on who you hire and who you have on the show, like, if what if everybody hates that person? Is that a good thing too? The days are probably numbered. You know, like if everybody hates them, but I feel like if people tune into you because they hate you,

that's still views and that's still money. Oh, well, if they hate watch you, then yeah, I mean, that could be a thing, yeah.

I feel like that's me. Like I said before, like, I feel like people hate watch me. But at the end of the day, I'm still producing the numbers. I'm still producing the engagements because like Floyd Mayweather,

they hated him, but they still bought his fights. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like hate could be a good thing. But the thing is, that I could interview somebody who's hated and have it really do numbers because people are

kind of fascinated by this person they hate, but if you're going to be a host on here long-term interviewing people slash talking to different homies every week, at a certain point, they're going to, like, the hate thing, unless you're like super entertaining as the villain, at a certain point, they're going to have to like you.

Yeah. You know? I don't know if we've ever had a host on here that people just hated and that's why they were popular. Maybe Flocko kind of comes to mind. They're like, love a relationship. But people do love. him as well, you know. I like Flaco. When I first, when I came in here just now, like, Flaco.

He said you like 50 cents. He said he asked you, are you 50 cents some, right? Yeah. No, he asked me without his brother. He asked me with 50 my dad's son. Is that a question that you get a lot? Bro, people, I think people think I'm such a troll. Like when they see me, they want to troll me before I can troll them.

So they'll just ask me that. But, you know, I want him to unblock me. I want 50 to unblock me. Because he had me. Got you blocked them. on Instagram. Yeah. He's had me blocked for like four years.

Did you hit him up or like what caused it? Because I asked him to do, let's do a DNA test. And he blocked me after that. Have you ever ran in the 50 anywhere? I seen him. Before I took the picture with Marquis. I used to chill with Prodigy a lot. Yeah, it's crazy.

And... RIPTA PROG. Yeah, where did that come from, that connection? Well, I'm just... I'm connected with a lot of things, bro. Like the guy who owned the club Griffin in the city, his brother was in jail with my uncle. So when my uncle came home,

you, come to the club, and then I got cool with the owner. And then the owner and prodigy was best friends. So we was all at the guy who owned Griffin house one night, and prodigy was in there. Then my uncle said, yo, that's Prem's son right there. So prodigy called me outside. He was like, yo, you know, it was all love.

Like, I know I might have said some stuff in the past, but, like, you know, I don't got nothing to get your pop. Your pops was a legend. You know, anything you need for me is. all loves, et cetera, et cetera. And then me and Pradji just started hanging out with each other. And he was real respectful. So Mob Deep was having like an album listening party or something like that in the city.

And 50 was there. And I was hitting Prodigia. Like, yo, I'm trying to get in. Like, how can I get in? And he was kind of spinning me. So I'm like, yo, why does a nigga spinning me? I thought he was cool. And then come to find out, he was spinning me because 50 was going to be there.

But I don't, but 50 didn't know me. But when he walked out, I was walking in. probably he was spinning me, but I'm one of those people, I'm still going to go and see if I can get in. I'm not going to not go. Like, I'm just going to take a chance. So I went up there, and I wound up still getting in. But as I'm walking in, me and my uncle and like a couple other dudes,

50s and his security's walking out. And like, he looked at me, and then he just kept going. And then he turned back around. Like, I felt like he kind of seen my dad or he's seeing me in a way or like a gut feeling. Like he's seen me in the way. way he looked because I'm on point because I'm like damn I hope this you know because 50 the person if you're running to him and you got fouls you get what I'm saying but so he looked at me he kept

walking and then we like we turned back at the same time and it was like a weird moment and I don't know like years later he was like yo that was that motherfucker yo like because he probably was like yo this nigga looked like preem it's hard when you get to the point where you know like 500 a thousand people because you'll see somebody in a club or in an event and your brain just takes a little bit longer than the average person to do the calculation and be like wait a minute that's him and then it'll hit you when you get in a car that's how it'll be many times it hits you get in the car hell yeah and i'll be like fuck i should have done so i should have screamed at that person i should have said something should spit on them anything what you think what happened is you and 50

running to each other knowing me a conversation because i don't have a problem with him i will i will want to have a sit down with him where it's just me and him there's nobody around there's none of his goons around none of my goons around none of my goons around. It's just me and him and just drive around and me and him can just talk like I want to know a lot of things I'm sure he will be open

to communicating with me about but I really want to pick his brain like I want to have like a real conversation with him. You get what I'm saying? What would be one question or a main question that you have from him? He might see this. So like what's something that you wanted to ask him that you always wanted to like damn 50 what's all with this? Hmm. What would be one

question I would want to ask him, does he love Prim? Like, do you love Prim? Do you got love for him? That would be definitely one of the things, because I think he does. Like, I don't think he hate Prim. I think he got love for Prim. But, but me saying that, what would be the reason you have love for this person? Was it because of this? Was it because of that? Was it like, what it? Like, I would love, like, that's on my bucket list, actually. Like, for me and him to, like, have a real conversation. Like, a, and it's just me and him. Like, I don't want no cameras around. I don't want, I just want to talk to him and see what happens. I feel like 50 is someone where if like he like I heard you mentioned the 4A laws of power in another interview

I feel like 50 has probably read that book more than like anybody else in the rap game because when I look at somebody like the way he handled his situation with buck when it says in the 40 laws of power like when you destroy you destroy completely that's a fact I mean he has not let up on buck for the past 20 fucking years and he probably never will and I feel like that's the same 50 cent who because he hates your dad might never want to have to have to. have anything, never have a conversation with you. Like, he was just eternally hate the whole bloodline. You don't think he would?

Maybe, maybe he would, but I would not be surprised if he wouldn't because I also feel like he's just. But you know, hate and love is the same thing. Hated the love of the underdogs on top. And I'm going to shine with me to my heart stop. 50 said, did actually write the 50 laws of power like Robert Green. I think he put me in one of his books. He put me in one of his books.

Really? Yeah. And he was talking about Marquise and he was like, yeah, Kyle McGriff or some shit like that. I think he put me in one of his books. But me personally, I think that, you know, sometimes people get caught up in, like, when you, when you are an actor and you do a role and you become that role, then you almost forget that you're just playing a role for the time being. So I think that he had to, like, kind of like stay in war mode, and he kind of lost itself a little bit. Because I really don't think he hate my father. I don't think so.

I feel like 50 is still connected to the part of himself. that basically didn't get any support from the neighborhood. You got a chip on his shoulder. Yeah, and I don't think he's eager to let that go. I feel like to him, that's like, no, that's who I am. I hate those motherfuckers. If you was a person that had gained and obtained so much success in your life, would you still be talking about your old foes?

I still am, yeah. In fact, I am. Oh, wow. I've made it further than I ever thought I would in my whole life. But a couple of months ago, there was a dude who I had a fist fight with, in 2008 and it was like some shit where he was in the wrong but he came up to me in a public place

and decided he wanted to fight me. Really? This motherfucker died. He killed himself a couple months ago and I didn't really say too much about it but I would describe the way I felt as like somewhat overjoyed when I heard about it. From somebody dying.

Fuck him. Yes. He's a piece of shit. But if... And he deserved more death. So I mean... So I mean... I understand.

You know, like I feel how you can just hate someone forever because there's a lot of people. If they die, I'm secretly going to be laughing. And it sucks, though, because it's like, I told my girl, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so happy this dude died. And she's like, you're a sick fuck.

Yo, but don't you think it take more energy and you to hate somebody? It's like a couple minutes worth of, and it's not like bad energy. It's like happiness. Like I'm only experienced like good feelings when homie kick the bucket. You like death?

Like, are you scared of death? I don't really worried about it. I don't feel bad for my kid. Personally, I'm not really. I'm not too committed to being here forever. Yeah. I'm 40. So it's gone.

I'm done. What should throw something like the New York drill scene was going on right now, New York? I feel like it's, that's tricky, man, because I feel like, I feel like it's trendy. I feel like every couple of years in rap is always a trend that happens, and then it'll be trendy, and then it'll, like, leave. So I feel like, get your money while you can get it now. but like it's just crazy because the stuff that they're putting in the song is really what they're doing and I feel like like you're not smarter than that like you actually put in the shit that you

actually currently doing right now in the songs and then like you know like I don't know but I mean like get your money man make your music get your money do whatever you're going to provide for you and your family but just be smart about it you get what I'm saying just be smart it's just crazy because the drug dealers that we grew up kind of looking up to or the rappers that we look grew up looking up to, we're talking about hustling, talking about being drug kingpins. And it's like, and they weren't really talking about being killers. I don't think they

was talking about them doing it. They were just talking about the people that they looked up to that were doing it. And a lot of them were lying or we're talking about this other guy that they knew down the street or whatever, but it's just weird that now the famous rappers are the ones who either are the killers or are like right next to the killers. It's crazy, right? And there's no room for you to be joking

or lying about that shit. Because if they catch you doing anything that doesn't make you seem like a fucking super-gang If they catch you walking down the streets of the corner store, then everything that you ever said has been disproven. You're a bitch now. You like drum music? I like it, but a lot of it is kind of...

A lot of the Bronx shit. I like the characters. I'm interested in them and everything, but the style of it is just a little too aggressive for me. It's a little too... Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like Chicago drum more on average.

I'm a future guy. Future, that's what I listen to. Future, young thug, feel me? Some old school R&B. Like, I don't want to listen to no drill rap. The deeper I get into the underground shit, the more I appreciate the drakes and the futures and the thugs of the world that just kind of make, like, great music. Yeah, like, that's because drill music, like, you're not going to turn on a drill song 15 years, 20 years from now. Like, yo, that shit not.

You ain't going to play no drill song at your wedding. You ain't going to play, like, that's just for now. It's a trend. I don't know. It's just, drill been around for like 10 years now, and a lot of them songs still kind of air. I think it's phasing out. I feel like the Kendricks and the, who's the white. What's the name?

Y and J? Which one? Corday. Corday, the Jay Coes. Like, I feel like that's coming back into music, to rap right now. Oh, it's trying to. I feel like it's like another year drill would probably be going. I think the complete opposite.

I think every city is literally creating their own drill scene right now. But when everybody started doing it, and you're going to get tired of hearing it. Like, how you just said earlier, everybody was tired of J'Roo being up here. So if all the people that's up here is doing drill, you're going to get tired of that shit, you're going to want something new.

I think people are fucking in fact. With, like, truth and then with drill being, like, the music that has the most truth in it, I think that's why it's so wrong. It's just sticking. It's like true crime plus music. Facts. So I think that's why I don't think it's going away. I think each city is just going to have it. Plus, scared straight.

A little bit scared straight in there, too. Most of those kids haven't been scared straight yet. No, I'm saying, like, the age, because they're so young, they're 14, 15-year-old talking about doing drills and shit like that. But it is kind of wild when you think about it, that there are very few drill scenes in America that really get, like, a crazy level of attention. besides New York and Chicago. So when you were in New York, where you be at? Oh, shit, the hotel? What borough, like?

I stayed in Williamsburg a year ago on a BMX trip. Okay. But I did have a giant fucking armed security guy following me around the whole time. Do you remember me? Did I reach out to you before to try to do work or something like that? I don't, I don't. Did we? I think so.

I don't recall if it was. I got to check the DM history. Yeah. A lot of that going on. A question I did have, though, to. Did you ever run into Slow Bucks or any of them being in New York? You know, they came up on any of 50. Yeah, of course.

I mean, like, you got to remember, like, it's a small world, right? So, and my family is like, I have a big-ass family. So Trave was, like, best friends with my cousin, like, my blood cousin and, like, my uncle and all that. And, like, you know, I see Slow everywhere. He's everywhere. So, I mean, yeah, they know me. I know them. Yeah.

How do you think about 50 cent and Slow Bucks falling out? Remember the famous chain situation with Slow Bucks hopped on stage. I think it was that summer gym and then 50 cents, well, not 50 cent, but Slowbugs got jumped and the chain got took on stage while 50 was performing. How do you feel about that? I feel like if you were chess player, you're going to play chess. And I feel like him going on the stage wasn't a chess move. You get what I'm saying?

Like that's just what it boils down to. Like you tried somebody and it got dealt with. Like, you feel me? But I feel like slow is a person. that is able to navigate through the industry and he knows how to stay relevant and he's a creative person. Do you think that that,

because honestly, I feel like that actually hurt the clothing brand. At one point, the clothing brand was kind of doing this shit, but ever since then, I think, it kind of... But he's selling $500 hatch now, too. You get what I'm saying?

So how much did it really hurt the clothing brand? Like, it might have hurt it for a time or a particular moment in time, but like if you're able to go through the storm and they still be standing once the storm is over, that just shows or gives a testament to who you are. But yeah, you know, I feel like if I got any issue with anybody, I had words or anybody, like, I'm not,

if I see you, we got to get down. Like, we got to get to it. Like, I'm not going to go on your stage while you're performing, like, that was in chess, you feel me? Like, if you beefing with Tom, with Joe Blow, and then you see Joe Blow performing, are you going to go on stage while he's performing? if you know something just happened with you guys on the internet

Probably not, no It's not smart. That was, I don't know what drug A person has to be on to do something like that But I mean, to be fair, they did grow up together So it wasn't like a total beef. If you grew up with somebody, you know their temperament And you know that what they're capable of

What they're not capable of So I'm sure he's seen this guy act In that manner with other people So you already know he's capable of So why we even Put yourself in that situation? If you make your bed, you got to lay in it. That's just what it is.

is that's life. I made my bed with certain stuff that I did. I got to deal with it. I got to land it. You get what I'm saying? So it's just... Your father said he hates you being on the internet, but you obviously don't have any plans on.

He didn't, okay, he didn't say he hated me being on the internet. He said he hated me trolling and arguing with people about stupid shit on the internet, which is basically what I always do anyway, but... So what are you looking to achieve from being on the internet? Well, I just actually just, um... Well, it would probably take into effect in like another three weeks, but I just signed a deal with the NFT company, a black girl baby, company is like promoting like the black women of the world like putting them on a pedestal like

they're understanding their story and their their triumph and all that stuff so i just did the nfts there with black girl babies that'll be dropping april two thousand 24 you got to be a true believer to still be doing an ft business at this point like now is the perfect time of doing it sometimes when nobody's doing something that's when you should do it like when it's over saturated then you feel me you can hit or miss but now that nobody's talking about it and it's like past I feel like it can make like up to $20 million. I know this guy who I've been to his house and he has just NFTs just hanging on the wall. And I know for a fact that they're all totally worthless now.

And it's, but who's the saying, I think about it all the time? Who's the saying in 10 months that it might not be worth a million dollars? Yeah. Feel me? It could. But at a certain point,

when the founders of the NFTs seem like they've given up on it, then it's kind of like, oh, okay, there's almost nothing that could happen. Well, they said the same thing about rap music. They said rap music wasn't going to be anything. or that is dying down and now is the number one genre of music so we can't predict the future. So just because something

seemed like is on a decline right now doesn't mean that, you feel me? In two years it might not come back. That's with stocks. That's with what you have your investments. That's with crypto. That's with anything.

Like one day it might just plummet and then people sell their shares or they'll get out of it and then the shit will go. You get what I'm saying? Like give a take. Yeah, I feel that. So what plans you got for the future?

So besides the NFT thing that I'm doing with the black girl babies I got the Rich in the Hood podcast that I'm doing I thought of my podcast interviewing like the street figures of New York and like the most notorious people in New York but I'm getting out of that realm where I just want to interview street figures I want to interview like NBA players because I have relationship with all these people I'm interviewing NBA players football players actors rappers like I wanted to be an all-encompassing podcast but I just feel like you know some of the street figure stories are so fascinating like I'm even though my

dad is who he is like I'm still fascinated from other people's stories and what they've done in their life and their success stories and then they fall from glory and then they back trying to do whatever they're trying to do now so but I want to get away from just focusing or just that like I don't want to be marginalized and just put into a box so I'm doing everybody and a lot of I have a lot of relationships that you would be shocked that I have and I'm just going to get everybody on the show where can they find a podcast on on YouTube Richard type and rich in the hood and it's simple as that it's spelled it sounds just how it's spelled rich in the hood is in my bio it's lit bro i'm doing the clothes i'm fashion is my number one thing i love fashion like that's what i really want to do i want to direct porn oh that's

one of my other things i want to give with my boy adam right here man yeah i want to direct in porn and fashion is the two worlds that i want to be i don't even want to be like a podcast like i do but on my priority list is directing porn and then fashion world music was never uh anything that you music was probably fourth not me rapping but me like on I wanted to be like Birdman or like Slim. Like I wanted to be like the owners. And then if I wanted the rap, I had somebody write my shit and I'm so fly. I can just spit the bars type of thing.

Like a ditty. That's what I wanted to be. But definitely directing porn. How would you direct the porn? What would you say? I mean, I don't even feel like I got to do, like if I'm hiring people as professionals, I don't feel like I could just, my camera angles is basically what the clip should be. Like I don't really feel I have to say, oh, do this for that long, do this for that long.

because they already know what they're doing. I just want to be the guy that's filming it behind the camera. The directors in porn that I've heard about that are really iconic or like known for what they do, I've heard about it. And they'll be like, okay, eat her pussy. Now, jam your face with her pussy. No, now lift her leg overhead or whatever. And I've kind of always wanted to do that.

But every time that I've ever been on set for Plug Talk stuff that I was basically like paying the filmer and having the talent or whatever, I've always thought about it, but then, like, when I'm in the room, I feel like my presence makes the guy nervous. Yeah. And so I've had this experience a bunch of times where the dude couldn't get hard,

so I kind of stopped hanging out while people were banging. Try to keep my distance and sure. I would want to, me directing it, I would just want to do, like, BBW scenes with people. Like, I want to direct the BBW porn. That's what you're into? Yeah.

Nice. Yeah, I think I am into. Shout out to all my thick sisters out there. You know, I type in, when I watch porn sometimes, I type in BBW Latinas and pogs.

I still haven't gone full BBW. Have you done BBW scenes? Well, back in the day, I used to fuck fat chicks off Craigslist just for the hell of it, but no, not on camera. But when I was in Vegas for the Aviana Awards, a few different chicks came up to me

that were large, and they made it clear to me that they wanted to be my first BBW. And what happened? I just haven't done it yet, but I would like to do it. Yeah, like I think BBW Latinas and Pogs is like my favorite two genres. Yeah. So you don't like black women? That's my third favorite genre.

That's my third favorite genre. That's my black queens out there. Absolutely. A black girl babies, man. Yeah. But that's not porn world, though. That's something positive. Two different sets of priorities.

That's the N-A-T, right? All right. So, P2, appreciate you. Thank you for coming through. Thank you for fun. Great conversation. Yo, Adam, you know I've been hearing you up for a year. No, I'm fucking what you.

No, but I just looked at our DMs, and you sent me a music video link in 2021. But I never opened the DM, and that was my first time looking at it. Okay, okay. But I just followed you. Got you. If you don't follow me back on me here.

No, I'm not Hollywood. I'm down the earth, man. Thank you. All right, shout out to my boy, Remo. For us and setting us up. Shout out, China Mac for plugging me with Ream too, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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That's doing what they're doing out there man Stop trolling and stop clout chasing I'm not a cloud chasing I am clout It's a difference Cloud chase me Hey Signed out

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