No Jumper - Tanea & Nova on P4K, The Hoover RICO, Being 15 on Figueroa Ave & More

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Tanea andNova talk about their mother daughter relationship, Nova quitting the blade, and more! ----- Check out e420 app for deals Apple: https://spn.so/g6gbid5j Google: https://spn.so/104g2yp6 use code NOJUMPER for $$ off Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam, but listen to this, though. I know we're not on live. Stop playing beats. No, we're recording. We're recording. Oh, we always recording. Why you always? Turn that on.

What? All right, watch King. Why are you always, all right, recording? I love that you got. I'm always ready anyway. I love you got the homeboy over here taking care of your infant. That's my son. That's my brother.

Oh, that's just, how is he? He looked grown as far. I didn't think you could have a kid. Yeah. He's 17. 17. That's crazy. He's got a baby face to me.

He looked grown? He looked grown to me. Yeah. I was surprised. Anyway, okay, you know, we got to front load this episode, okay? The biggest question

in the streets of L.A. right now that the people are dying for an answer for. Are you telling on P4K? No. Hell no. I don't. Okay, so I have an idea

why they're saying that because it was once upon the time I was 13 and I was on FIG, right? And when I first went out there, I went to go get these shoes from Ross, right? Okay. Because I didn't have enough money to get no hills. he recorded me, he was like, oh, she got the bounty shoes on,

and he posted me. Like they look like the shoes that were in the county? Yeah, basically. So he posted me, and then people were already saying weird shit about that. And then after that, like, you know, I'll see him on fig and shit, but I never talked to him because I'm like, oh, no. Like, you feel me? Watch it.

Yeah. We'll censor it. But honestly, that's kind of what I suspected, because when I saw it popping up on news pages and stuff, I'm like, you don't seem like you have any kind of evidence behind this. You're just combining these two. stories together because she's well known. Exactly, and I was never the

type, even when I was out there, I was never the type to even pay you know, a dude. I was out there with my home girls. I was never, I don't care how famous she was like, you know what I used to listen to his music or whatever, but I never really, yeah, like, I used to listen to that music, but I never like, that's not my style of really paying

niggas, like, you know, that's not. Okay. And my whole thing is, she is a minor soul. If there, if she's a, allegedly a victim, how could her name be like this close. Like how could they be able to be able to. Not of nothing with P4K.

Not with him, but I'm just saying in general. Yeah, not nothing with no K. Yeah, like, not nothing with him. Can't nobody be able to be like, oh yeah,

and Nova better watch her back. She better not watch nothing. You never have P4K managing your box? No. I don't know P4K. I mean, he followed me on Instagram

and I followed him before. It's hard for me to keep a straight face. But it's crazy because it's like, they like to throw our name and anything for the cloud. Like, but that's a serious jacket to be. putting on a child and my child at that.

Right. And yesterday, bro. Yesterday, I guess he, somebody said that he was in jail. Like, he was talking to jail. He was like,

yeah, that bitch knowing her mama go on the court, testifying. That's why we're legend. That's why we hit you up because that, that shit is nothing to play with.

You feel me? Like, me on, we don't get down like that. We don't snitch on nobody. So we want to get him on the phone. You want to get people on the phone. I want you to get him on the phone.

You know how to get in touch with people so that he can say like, that he don't know who, Nova is because it's like, I mean, she's not a victim. And she might be kind of like lost in the system right now. I haven't heard about anybody talking to him yet since he's been locked up. So what are, but I'm sure that he would say that because I assume that's true.

People are on the internet talking about some, all type of stuff, like they've talked to him. Uh-huh. I told you they was just talking to him. And that's why, and that's where I got that from us going to court. Yeah. So that's what's going on the streets. On Instagram or whatever, it's like, that's telling me. on your own self.

Whoever posts things like that. So don't put our name in it just because people are posting things. Like, what happened to pimping and pandering? I thought niggas get like 10 years for that. They acting like the law change. Right. They got no fear.

No fear at all. Every once in a blue moon I meet a dude who's got like a trap phone who's at least trying to not have a digital footprint of whatever he's doing. We don't even trust them phones. Them Obama phones and all that. We don't trust that. They probably make them for the pimps. They can fuck you over with those two for sure.

But, I mean, at least they're making it a little harder than when it's like, oh, you're a pimp. And here's four years of cash app receipts proving that you're a pimp. So my daughter knows exactly. If my daughter knows this, right? Right. They don't know this. And she's how old? She's 15.

Then they keep talking about, because I don't know, like, the dates don't add up. Like, they're saying things like, oh, you know, it started in 2023. Well, she's 15 now. They keep throwing her age around, like, one minute, she's 12 women. Yesterday, they told me. they told me my boyfriend he said that they said that it's been going on since 2022 and in 22 I was 12 years old 2021 I think but I mean I'm sure that they're combining all kinds of stuff and like they're probably consistently over time just collecting information about

they do anything for clout they do anything for cloud the feds so well whoever whoever is stirring this up okay and you know she is I just think people putting it on me but I don't think people putting on me because you know it's not that many minors that's really known. You feel what I'm just known, knowing mind that was, you know, outside doing that shit. So, I mean, they don't have

nothing else to put it on. And then, I don't know, like him disagreeing to it. I don't know what the fuck he got on. It's like, we don't even glorify this. Like, not like that. Like, you know, things happen. And it was awareness brought to

the things that happened in our life. But it's like people, they keep bringing it up. They make, they're making us viral at this point. You think she would be famous without you at this point? Or is she famous because everybody's able to kind of point you and put the blame with you. That part. I think that

because they're able to pinpoint it, it blows it up even more because it's plenty of minors. They were able to say this one. And then, you know, my daughter is active online. She's socially minded. She's always live. She's always like, you know, she's very social. And it's like a lot of girls are

like timid. They wouldn't do the things that my daughter would do. My daughter is a comedian. She's an actress. She's a dancer. She does a lot. I'm just funny. You know, like. You know, she go viral for a lot of crazy stuff. I mean, that's why I can't really be mad at her because it's like, they want me to be this mom that's like, you know, if my daughter I'm gonna,

I'm not gonna whoop her out. Like, for what? This is my chap. Okay, just to keep drilling down on this a little bit, do you see that Hoover indictment? I'm sure you watch YouTube videos or like read Instagram posts about it or whatever. Like, what was going through your head?

Like, was this regular shit? Were you surprised by any of it? No surprise. This is all just stuff you expect. Yeah. you know that's that I mean that's kind of crazy

that like so many people who consume this kind of content were horrified by it but her somebody who's really outside yeah no surprise this is just regular

you probably know about way worse shit exactly and that's my problem is that when you're around it you you don't even have to be around the n nits to see like you feel me

you could you just know like like you know I've been doing I don't do this no more, but I started when I was 13, you know? So I've been seeing all type of shit, you feel me? And I just know, and you could just tell when it's a minor. You could just tell them it's not a real pim. Like, half these things, they ain't even real pimps.

You need boyfriends. On God. They get them little minors. Defend boyfriend. Like, how does that break down? Adam, no, they get little minors like me, right? And they treat them like they're the girlfriends, basically. And then at some point, you're working.

Oh, yeah, I know she's not going to snitch. They do fuck up shit to them. You know? Not that I know, but I'm just telling you, you know. Right. That's what they do. And they get comfortable with the bitch. And then when shit like this happens, indictments and shit, they be like, oh.

But the whole time, they're watching you on fig. Like, the police being undercover cars, I'd be seen them. And that's why I stopped doing that shit because, you know, my mama made an owner. I was 13 years old and I was missing this shit. That's why they used to be mad at me. Like, why you keep posting it? Why you keep because I want you to know. This is a minor.

I don't want to hear nothing. Oh, we didn't know. I told you. I told you all. I told you all she was 13. I kept blowing her up so that she would be so famous, she won't step foot on that blade because I'm going to come. Right, because like some of the girls on fake,

I'm assuming, like, you could get fooled if you were a guy who's buying P-Mu-i that maybe, but with her, it's like, you could never. Or Faye Mama not on social media. But the guys, not like that, by Cucci? They're seeking it out. They're looking for a minor. Exactly. Exactly.

That's like one of the most common things you think. But guys being pastiles. And it's just social media that's able to expose it. Right. It's just crazy because it's like we think of this being stuff that dudes are doing in dark corners of the internet. It's weird to know that there could be like a famous street in the middle of L.A. and this shit is going on on a daily basis out in front of everybody's eyes.

And now the police are trying to clean it up for whatever reason. Because when I was making missing reports, I would be on fig. I wouldn't be recording. They're like, oh, my God, that's what people wanted me to do. I'm out here looking for it right now. Like, no, I will see the police standing right in front of the prostitutes, right and right past them. They didn't do nothing. Well, I've had girls tell me that in the past is, like, the cops generally are not really going to do anything unless there's real violence or underage girls.

But you want to sell, so you're 30, go right ahead. And at this point, not like that, but to my knowledge, I think, because I didn't talk to, like, my daughter is missing, like, on the police, on LAPD, right? at one point until I seen they didn't give a fuck and I'm like, okay. They were basically saying like, we can't victimize these girls. Like, they have to tell. They have to tell. We can't, she can have a black guy.

And they don't care. If the girl didn't say, she could lie and say, I just got put on a gang. They're going to be like, all right. Mm-hmm. Okay, wait. So do you know everybody that was in that RICO, though? Like when you're seeing stuff about lady duck, oh, you're, don't want to snitch.

I heard of them. I don't know. You heard about them, but these aren't like people that you're like actually familiar with. No, I don't know these niggas. Okay. Interesting. Okay, there's like an assumption I heard a bunch of people said, which is like the

girls always tell. How much of a code is there amongst girls that are on the blade to not snitch on the pimps, snitch on the dudes? They don't snitch on their pants because first of all, well, I don't know. Maybe young girls. I don't think they snitch on their pants because how these pimps, they're gang bankers. So if you snitch on this nigga, you're going to end up killed or end up, his home girl is going to beat your eyes, or you can't get down no more, or it's just, shit comes

with that. So they're not going to snitch. Rather he in jail or not, they're not going to snitch. Like, they're not going to snitch because it's shit that comes behind that. You feel me? Like, they're not just from the snitch. Like, and then they was down for this. So why would the bitch snitch on him? Like, that was her. Like, come on now. But I feel like with all these girls, once they get under a dude's arm, it's kind of like, it starts out one way. You think you're agreeing to one thing. And then as time goes by, it keeps you getting more abusive or they're having you do worse shit with guys or you're getting less money from the guy, etc.

I was assuming it's kind of you sign up for one thing and then it just gets exponentially worse as time goes by. And then especially once you're kind of like used up and they don't feel like they can really do much with you. And then all these rules they got. Oh, if you choose out with another guy, he's able to punch on you and all these things I've been hearing in these little. vlogs or whatever. Yeah, it's like a put-off. That's something like, no, that's something like... Yeah, put-off.

No, usually when you, like, when you pay like somebody, you gotta pay them, like, how they be like, oh, my choosing fee. Yeah, yeah. You got to give me $1,500 to pay me or leaving fee, you got to give me $1,500, too. In that scene.

That shit that we heard, that we seen on that video with people on the shit, that was some, like, that's some buster shit. Like, how you let the next nigga punch on your bitch? You feel, like, that's some... I never seen that. before or heard of that before. They just making up

same rules, I guess. And it's getting, it's getting very emotional. It's getting very, why do my bees keep coming out? Yeah, why do you have a handful of beads? I think, because it's so hot. It's so hot out here.

Oh, the rubber bands is no too hot. I think the rubber bands is just popping. It is hot as shit outside right now. You know what? Because I have little girls and I don't like to get like, I like to get elastic rubber bands so that it won't pull the ends of their hair out. So it's probably just popping.

Can I just say that I haven't known you for this long? It's kind of weird. seeing you as a mom. Like, I'm not used to that, even though I know you are a prolific mom. That's what my baby daddy, not the one you know, but King's dad. The new one. The new one. Okay.

He, um, was like, yeah, like, these niggas is just talking about you on no jumper. Like, you're just somehow. You got to see that. When he told me that, I think all things considered, we're kind of respectful of you. Well, the thing is, it's just because I'm just so used to, you know, being playful when I'm supposed to be like, oh, on a dead homies, don't say, like, what? No, I'm, it's, it's, it's, it's. cool. I know I'm...

I mean, it is kind of like... Not, I'm a whole, but I know that I'm attractive and people may say little things or just we all grown. We could talk sexual. It's nothing to me. I'm not going to get offended. But also, like, this is a podcast. So, like, things that are very out of the ordinary are

very of note. And you, having previously hooked up with the blind gangster ass blood dude is kind of... We kind of get into that. Like, that's pretty interesting, you know? We ain't talking about no other nothing, but this. I'm just being real. Like, you know, like, much he's a legend and he just happens to be

blind, that's kind of like... He's a legend. He is a legend. I've heard from a lot of people that he's got a rap sheet that is rings bells. He just, you feel me? You got a name for yourself. You got a name for yourself. Like how we got a name for ourselves. That's my type. We're legends. Your type? Legends. My type is real people. That's my type. You know what I'm saying? Right. Okay, wait. So, like, this is my thing that is kind of, mind-blown about this particular RICO is that I've had so many people sit in front of me I'm not even going to name names besides Sharp

that they talk about how cool they are, their pimps, like all, like just make it sound like the coolest thing in the world and then you see this RICO and it's like the grossest thing in the world. It's like the most foul shit that like no reasonable street dude would want to coast. It's all legend. It's very true.

I'm not necessarily assuming that everybody's guilty of everything. But this type of behavior in general is like, I feel like almost everybody is just sitting back like, what the fuck? But, I mean, is that like the average pimp or do you guys, are you familiar with pimps who are actually really about their business and are respected or they all dirt balls? A real pimp, bro. And I was just to my mom this last night. A real pimp is not going to post on Instagram like this or like this. They're not going to do that.

They're not going to post. They holes in their hills in their car. They're not going to do that. A real pimp, they don't do shit like that. Real pimp's, they pimp. They, they, they don't even have their bidsies on. fig like come on now. So basically all of this is like

The average pimp is what you see now on Instagram or shit. That's the average pimp. I think it has changed. A real pimp? They're not going to do that. Oh God. They're not going to do that shit. I think maybe when I was growing up I looked at pimp's like very low key. You didn't see them. Then when you seen them,

their girls is like classy. Now it's like she said like the boyfriend pimp. I'm pretty sure they were always getting beat up. But like I feel like the ones who are doing that are more like the gangbangers. You know? I don't know. That's just what I think. but I've never been like down on fig. My whole thing was because they always think, oh, your mom was doing it.

I was on back page. Not like that, but I was doing ads. My shit was more discreet because I was a singer at the time. You know, I wasn't a minor doing it. I was already 18 and over. So it was like, I'm like, I need to do what I have to do. But is it fair to say that you essentially probably are responsible for your daughter getting this line of work?

Like she saw mom doing it one way or another. No, I didn't see her doing it. I've seen the home girl doing it, and she told me to come out. So other friends of yours were already into it? It was popular and it was glamorized. At that time, we were living, like, on the East Side on Broadway. So that's already... Yeah, I never seen my mom, like...

Yeah, the next street over was fixed. So she's getting in trouble. I'm taking her phone, you know, gentle parenting. I'm not going to whip you, but I'm going to take your phone. I'm going to take your game, son, right? She, like, take my phone. She's like, all right, I'm out of here. Right.

She runs away. She runs away to somebody's... house. You know how it is these days the laws has changed. You used to be able to whip your kids ass. Now they get on the phone with the social worker or somebody else's mom. It's like, is your mom hitting you? Oh my God, baby. You can stay

over here. What? Have you pulled that move? You're like called CPS? No, not call CPS. No. When she goes over other people's house, they don't want to get jeopardized, so they get to call it. I don't call the cops. So she don't call the cops because she don't, you know, these kids, they don't

know no jacket on them. I'm not snitching on man. Okay, cool, fine. But when you out there, it's kind of looking crazy. You get what I'm saying? So she met a friend and when you're out, you know, peers. I think it's just like- You need some money. You out here, girl, let's get some money. You're cute. It's so hard for so many people to just accept that she was getting into this way of life and that you just couldn't do anything about it. It's like that, that is like what it all comes down to in terms of why people are so mad at you, why people are so mad at you, why people are so. so mad at this whole situation and it's so hard. Right. I feel like I kind of get it a little bit because it's like I just realize how impossible it probably was for you at a certain point to just make this not a thing. I have other children, right?

So if one child runs out the door. Right. Do I keep running after her? I mean, yeah, I'm making police reports. I'm threatening her, not threatening her like that, but when, you know, you better do this. I had to learn how to deal with my each child. I have six.

So you have to deal with your son different than your child. teenage daughter and the little ones. So I'm like, dang, it's certain things that I, and I have to make her feel comfortable. I don't want to run her off and then she get in the hands of the wrong person. So even, you know, through everything, I think the internet doesn't see me at rage. Because when I am beefing with my daughter, we was getting a lot of followers. They love to see us fighting. I was going up, she was going up, and we were like, this is getting weird, huh?

We like, we don't even really hate each other like. She probably hate me a little bit Like my mom getting on my nerves Like I want this bitch to leave me alone But I'm like I'm not gonna leave you alone What the fuck I look like? But because I'm so cool, calm and collective Because I have to be as a mother

Come on Okay, let me do like a comparison Because I don't have experience Having a daughter over the age of my daughter's four right now Right But like sometimes shit happens where like You know I tell her like No snacks before dinner

Like we've got dinner and an hour and a half, no more snacks. You got to make a little room for dinner, right? And then she walks over to the cabinet and she grabs a packet of cookies and she just sprints to the other side of the yard. And it's like, you kind of have this weird moment where it's like, I was just acting like I cared so much about this thing. In reality, I know it doesn't matter that much.

I know I don't give a fuck. And I just don't really like have it in me to act like performatively angry about this. And I kind of feel like you're almost in that situation with her where you try to lay the law down. You try to discipline her. But at the end of the day, you guys almost seem less like mother and daughter and more just like sisters. And why is that? Like, because

you're so close in age and your lifestyles are not that different. We're not that close in age. Okay, you're probably don't want to say, huh? But you had her when you were what, like a teenager, right? No? 20. Okay. Right. So you're mid-30s

and she's 15. I mean, it's a lot different than me being 15 and my mom being like 45. But the thing is I'm mature. It's maybe For real. You're a version of mature.

One style of maturity. But it's like because I'm like considered a cool mom because I give it's 2025. I give my kids a little leeway because when you, when you're not able to express yourself, you go out and you do it anyway. I don't want her to go out too far. And it's like you could have did this here with me.

Like, do you think if you have one kid, and if she was your sole daughter that you would have been able to like lock it down a lot more and make her not do some of the crazy shit? Absolutely, because she won't all the attention. She's the type that's like, oh, you're not giving me attention. All right, let me do. She pulls stunts every single day. On TikTok, I just pulled a stunt to get her attention.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, did you see me crying? I was crying because of you. She's like, girl, but mom, look at you. It's like, we have to do. shit like that. No. Because me arguing with her is not going to get it.

Me bonding with her in a different way to where I'm accepting what she's telling me. Because I want to hear all the tea. Not like that, but... So how do you approach having her as your mom? What do you mean? Like, do you just tell her whatever? Like, how much stuff are you really keeping secret?

She told me she... Wait, what you mean? Like, do I tell her? Yeah, I mean, you got all this crazy stuff going on your life. Like, how much of it, are you honest about it? No, I tell her everything. Like, no, no, on God. Mom, you know I'll tell you everything

But sometimes you'll wait You'll be like, okay mom this happened a month ago I didn't want to tell you because you was going to be mad So I expected Sometimes I ask her later on But now I know shit like Not no serious here shit But if I know like it's a weird topic

What's serious serious to you? If a guy hurt you Like some police shit Like how they're trying to say This P4K shit Well but that's easy because it's not true Yeah That's what I'm saying but you know

I'm using this as a scenario Like if I was to snitch on P4K I would have told my mom like mom. Like mom, I'm thinking about snitching. No, I snitched. That's what I would have said to it. Okay. I would, I tell her everything like shit like that.

That's serious. You know, but a little nasty shit. Little nasty shit I'd be telling her. I would like, mom, I didn't want to say this because it was nasty or, you know. You do a date, quote unquote, date. Right. And the guy assaults you pretty bad. Is that like, that like, that doesn't rise to the occasion.

I want to tell mom. I know because I know she don't want me doing that. And it's like, it's going to have, it's going to turn us the wrong way. So what she's going to do. she's going to tell me later on like you know what I have to deal with. I end up having that. That's what she's going to tell me later on. But you see how I still get told, but not right then and right there.

But if she's like if it's real serious, like she said, like she's always to her like, you only call me when you're about to die. Because I feel like she calls me, mom, sometimes she's screaming, sometimes she's crying. I mean, it's all type of stuff. You know, this girl every day is something new. Nice. I have so many concerns Are you engaging in drug use? This is one thing I would like to know

Have you got to that part? Do it look like it? I mean, not really, but you're young, so, you know, kind of takes time to shut in. I'll suck on some balloons. I'll suck on some balloons but I don't use, like, hardcore. That's the least of our worries.

I'm going to be really good. No, I don't like that. No, that's pretty bad, yeah. But it's not bad. It's not perks. I just seen a Hispanic guy listening to Big Sat the other day. I know multiple people who have lost use of their legs.

From that? Yes, I swear to God. Their legs? Yeah, one of the dudes from O-TM. I already, like, couldn't walk for a while. There's this other girl, Orelin that I interviewed, and she basically at a certain point couldn't walk. She stopped doing it.

She got her legs back, but it's real. Is that the nice thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what does it, yeah. But, like, I don't do it a lot, a lot, because I don't smoke weed no more. I stopped smoking, like, what, like, three months ago?

Didn't you go viral for doing that tank? No. They was posting it. No? Doing a tank. I don't even know how it worked. How it goes. A whole galaxy gas to the head, the whole tank?

No, like, I don't know. Her lip was busted. Oh, yeah. I did. I busted my lip with it because you know how it freezes? Designer. What I'm going to say? It froze.

It's not too eyes, so it can't be the one. She's all the type of people with her phone. What I'm going to say? Wait, that's your phone? Are you listening? Who's designer? Sorry, Ariya. So you know how it comes out cold air?

It froze my lip, and then it got stuck to my lip, and I have to snatch it off, and it took a piece of my skin off. And then I went viral for it. Yeah. But I don't really do balloons like that because... When you made a TikTok of it? Yeah. She don't do no drugs like that, no more. Yeah, I don't...

No more. Because you popped a fake perk that one time, and it was like, somebody called my mama, and it was your birthday? Oh, yeah. I popped a fake perk. That shit has fennon-on-on-on-on-gosson. You got super sick? Yeah, like, somebody's can be a fake. gave it to me right and then you know

it's Fetna so I was first of all but this was the night before that morning because it was just in my system when I woke up but that night we was at the beach and I remember we was going to go on the what's that thing called the miracle what's it called? Mary go around yeah the Marriesville.

Yeah I was going to go on there and I just fell like I was in the sand and you know when you walk in the sand it's already like you know yeah lagging like it takes it puts a toll on you so I have failed No, for real, I fail, bro. You got sand. Bro, no.

It's true. You walk very slow in the sand. Yeah, exactly. So I was already high, feeling weird. So I had just failed. I had just went like weak to my knees. And I'm like, I'm like, Hennessy, I can't. I'm like, I can't walk.

I'm like, I can't move. She's like, no, but just get up. I'm like, I cannot move. The fuck. Demi and hers or her. I'm like, bro, help me get up. Like, I'm just sitting there. I cannot move.

Her friends is crazy. So she, like, helped me get back in the car. Then we drove to my other friend house. and then I had just slept in the car because I was feeling weird Oh no, but I had threw up that night I just started throwing up like And then you know when you throw up yellow shit

You're throwing up your insides Like I didn't have nothing in my son So I was just throwing up yellow shit Like yellow liquid Like so then I went in the house The next morning and then I started like shaking and shit like season And a lot of people

And I used to be praying for her at this time And I know my prayers work Because a lot of people is like You know why doesn't she want to go home because my daughter didn't want me to see her like that. She know I'm going to be talking a lot of, like I wouldn't let her go out the house. Now you're going to be on punishment. And it's like you can't hold a teenager down.

So it's like you can't hold a teenager down. So it's kind of like while she was out, I would still like be making updated missing reports. And it got to the point where they were like, man, she's a chronic runaway, you know, until things got better. But it's like we was going through it. So then when things hit the internet, and they ain't seen all this. They don't know when I used to be going viral off this other page named Hando's. It was like the whole runaway pandemic or epidemic. There's a scene.

There's like a whole world of runaways. People. No, it was a whole world of her, of her own. And it was just like a show. Like that was their favorite show. So when the blade hit, they were like, oh, my God, that's that girl. So that's what made her even more viral. You get what I'm saying? Because it was like a part two of.

what they already knew. And that's how people go over. So wait, you're kind of acting like now is a very different time compared to a couple years ago. It escalated. So you feel like she's in a better place mentally? She's not doing the fucked up shit she was new before? Yeah.

So, yeah. So you know how like the internet is kind of late? By the time it goes viral, it's been going on. It's not new. It's like old to us. And that's why they don't really understand. Because if they knew that it started from running,

the way than to being on the blade and then people being so shock value like 13 sold sold so it's that simple like that's not even surprising either that humans are just being sort of sold between different well well that is surprising to me because I didn't know that was that was going on yeah she was selling herself I didn't know that it was like

that shit going on on the blade like when we look at all the shit that's going on right now that's why all that allegedly shit we like what that's what's going on right like it's hard to believe because i ain't seen it i mean okay one thing i wanted to ask you guys they're part of the riko they said that uh certain dudes would be driving up to santa barbara where there was another stroll and they would basically just like you know solicit a girl kidnapper take her back to fig have her working for god knows how long before anybody figures out that she was kind of from one of these other blocks.

I don't know if dudes ever come back trying to get their girls back or what, but is that normal? Is that like something you've heard all about? You didn't kidnap them going on fig? Well, them actually going to other cities, kidnapping girls and then bringing them back to Fig to work. And the girls can't really do shit about it. Yes, they can.

If you're on feet, you have, when you get into that car with the trick, you can tell them, take me back to where I came from. It's not that hard. Like, I remember you telling me that before. You got some big-ass dude, and he says, no. You're coming with me. It's not big-ass trick.

These tricks on feet, they be little Mexicans, little bettays. Literally, they be little guys. Like, you know, they're not. She's just a big dog. Okay, but so you never, you would never get in a car with a black guy. That's against the rules? That's why I've been told by enough for else that doesn't surprise me anymore. Okay, what, what happened?

Some shit. Really? And do you feel comfortable with that, you know, a stereotype that black guys are just like way more dangerous than Mexicans are whites on the blade? Yeah, because, like, I don't know, like, they just be taking advantage because they know they big and they know that they can rape you,

you feel what I don't, they can take control of you, they be having guns and shit, like, they be, yeah, they'll do anything to not pay, you know? Wow. I mean, I saw somebody post this on the Reddit, they're like, all these girls on the blade. The only black guys that I would date is, like,

old-ass niggas, like, like that, my grandpa age, like, you know, because, no, not like that, Mom, not like that, no, not like that, not that. You know what I'm saying? No, not like that. No, not like that, but like, oh, guys.

Like, I'm just so glad you're not on fake no more. Yeah, I don't do that shit no more. That shit, first of all, that shit played out. I just haven't ever heard of 15-year-old, like, aspire to date a 50-year-old guy or whatever. I'm not inspired. I just need it. She probably feel like this is like my grandpa. I'm saying.

No, I mean, I don't know. You're just paranoid of the 25-year-old joints. You don't want to date a trophy? Why you? Exactly. Because why would a trophy? truck would be paying for Kucci. Oh.

And we all got our own thing going on, I guess, but. You know? So if they seem like... And then on FIG, like, if you're going to pay for some Gucci, go to an Instagram model or some shit, don't go on FIG. Like, come on now. You know? Like, no.

Okay. Like, no. But, wait, I saw, so I say this in the Reddit. They said, like, everybody's tripping out about this underage prostitution going on on fig, but the girls themselves say that they don't sell the black dudes. So who do you think is buying? And she, I mean, she already said it, but it's kind of, I don't know. The police do it too.

It's kind of damning. Wait, the cops buy women? Yes. Like a lot? This is always going down? Yes. The ones who are supposed to be stopping it. Yes.

The police story, she didn't tell me about the police. I said, oh, yeah? They don't come in their outfits, bro. But, you know, like me and the home girls, we used to be on figure a lot. So we used to, the same police used to ride down. Right? And it was this one police officer, bro, I swear to God, I'm not lying.

It was one police officer. He came in this little black. It was like a bucket, like a bucket, bucket. And he just, like, started smiling us. He was like, what do you girls up to? And we was like, oh. Because you recognized them. No, we was like, bro.

He didn't, I mean, he didn't ask for a date or nothing, but, like, he was just like. You felt like he was testing the waters? Yeah, like, you know? But, like, why are you on fig without your outfit on? Like, he had on a surprise. real shit. We could be doing undercover shit, right?

But, like, I don't know. But you didn't actually see him purchasing? No. You're just assuming. But what do you mean? Like, what do you girls up to? Like, what you're talking about? Like, you know what you have to.

Exactly. You see what we're up to and you're coming on the shit without your uniform. But that's like you say, like, how are you doing? It's like, I don't really give a, right? You know? Yeah, like, you know. Jeez. That's crazy.

Very, very crazy. And what I don't like that they said to, like, in that video that's going around, they're like given threats to her. And like if she was a victim allegedly, why would you be threatening a child? And then they're like tempering with the witness if she was. She's not. Nobody charged should be saying that, yeah, for sure.

They threatened me like it really happened. Where did you even get this from? Where's the paperwork at? This is what I want to know. No, but where did this first start from? Leth was saying. Atm. Richie was out here basically talking about you. Like you were a app on that.

Who is that guy? I just got familiar with him. I never made him. That's a guy that said he, ties up renegades and kills them and do all type of shit. What's a renegade? And like have sex with milk. Girls that don't have pimps.

Like, oh. Yeah, like, you set that on live. Nicky, you're going to be like, they're going to get your ass knick.

You said he was going to fuck milk 74 in the ass too. Exactly. And then, and then he was like, with her punk-ass mama, you don't know me. He do not know me. And then the thing is,

too, um, it's crazy how Lush was saying, like, it's police protocol. You cannot reveal the victims. So where would they get her name from? Like,

I want to know where did it stem from. Like, you think they just threw her name in it because she has clout? Yes, 100%. But who started it? Yeah, who started it? I don't know exactly. But honestly, like, the internet is so fucked up now that if there's a good story and there's no evidence to prove it, there's just always going to be people online who are like, you know what?

Let's just say this because it's so, it's going to go so viral that it won't matter if it's true. And it'll give us content, especially all these smaller pages. You got an Instagram page with 2,000 followers. Or you're trying to get lit. Exactly. Just make some shit up. And then they said, allegedly, he was, like, you know, having sexual relations with the person, too. Like, they were trying to say it was her.

Like, come on, bro. Yeah, what was that like? What's that guy's too big, dude? That's not my type. But one minute, though. She's not my type. They keep playing. They're not knowing, like, this girl right here, this is the last one you want to get tired of with.

She will, you know. I will make you want to kill yourself I don't want to with me because I don't like bro I don't just let niggas do anything you feel me like I don't let me just especially if you grown like that you think I'm going to let you treat me like come on now

no I let these little young little 16 17 year olds do play and shit you're grown as fuck no I'm not going to let you do that if you want to be grown and fuck with me you go out to do something for me or you know like she said that's not her type anyway so thank the Lord he's not my type that nigga is so

that that could never be a real... And all this shit, we've been hearing about... Like, come on now, we've been hearing about shit like this on the internet before this Rico shit. Like, come on now, we've been hearing that. Come on, P for it. Like, no.

Who mess with minors and who they was having relations with. It ain't her. And it won't be her. That's why I'm like, oh, no, we got to address this because I guess they think since I'm not like rowdy, rowdy, rowdy, rowdy. But one thing about it is, I really don't play when it comes to this one right here. They don't see me plenty of times. People who really know me, I don't run into houses to get her up out of there.

You get what I'm saying? And I will not be going to no police talking to them for what? Ain't, it ain't. The more, I have seen a lot of different rappers slash street dudes get exposed for 16 year olds, 15 year olds on the blade. I've seen it enough times now that I'm like, okay, this is just normal to them. Yeah, yeah. There's no way that you guys are all just like horrified by this person doing this.

And I understand that like regular, like I was talking about whack yesterday and whack saying like, yo, like when P4K gets locked up is all bad for him because he's got these cases involving minors or whatever. And I'm kind of like, is it really, though, because I feel like there's so many motherfuckers doing this shit. I think it depends on which a minor telling, though. That's maybe that's when they get serious. Because why would they be comfortable? So maybe they thought, I'm so comfortable with this bitch not telling I could do whatever

I want until she told. It ain't this one. She ain't told. She don't even know him. But it's like, shouldn't we be encouraging her to tell? Well, whoever. Tell them what? Yeah.

motherfuckers trafficking in underage girls I never seen nobody getting traffic I just know these niggas that like to buy my me everybody who's just pimping a girl though is trafficking them essentially right legally these niggas not pinch for it that's what I'm trying to tell you like bro it's not even no real trafficking going on for real yeah like I think

that the internet is making it like more than what it is oh Rico sex trafficking oh yeah body parts oh yeah sing them like what the body parts far was crazy like are we eating humans now or what's going on right like that's what's they make it too like like when I seen them like you know I know of these guys

so when I seen them I'm like bro you know like what the we know of these guys from Instagram and we see stuff on Instagram we don't personally really know nobody but everybody feel like we know each other because we see we see each other yeah and it's like

I don't know but these niggas ain't real pens for that's why how they make it seem like bro that shit what percentage of girls on fig have a pimp all of them you're just the sole renegade who's avoided this no I'm not on fake no more

but me and my home girls we didn't have no pen for me like we were just always together but is that treacherous to be over there and not having a pint I mean like is it like super dangerous I would just think like

dudes could just victimize you just got to go out at the right times you know don't go out at three o'clock in the morning where the niggas is kicking you in your back and shit telling you all if y'all if y'all folks ain't from you can't be right here

and you have to go out the right times you got to be around the right people so So anyone who's not Hoover affiliated Gets kicked out later tonight We didn't say Hoover affiliated Well I'm just Any affiliated But in that area

You gotta keep them happy right Like they're the ones who could basically Tell you get the fuck out We don't know But hey We don't know Yeah we don't know anything But it's just like you know

Like she said Those girls that she like Be with are just people period They talk They everybody had their little stories And they're gonna tell her Like girl don't do this Because woo-woo

to her up. So that's going to be the thing. Once you hear that, now you like, she told me and she been out here before me. I just came. So I guess that's what it is. That's the rules of it.

Because she ain't told me nobody ever kicked her in her back, but you hear these rules in the streets. Everything is always allegedly until it really happened. So whoever these victims are, I'm pretty sure they're on that paperwork because they either told,

some was tapped, some. Okay, let me tell you something Wack said. Wack said, all these dudes are going to tell and the reason why they're going to tell is because once they get to prison they're already all bad they're not going to be...

Well, on other people involved in the case to try to get the best terms again. They're all bad because of the case. Because of dealing with underage girls and pimping them and shit that they're going to basically not be able to exist on the main yards in there so they might as well tell

on who? On the other people involved in. I don't know. Anyone they can to get as little time as possible. because of the fact that once they get in there, they're going to be no good. So you might as well tell. Right.

It's like no use in there. You know good anyway. I have no idea if this is actually how it works, but that's what Wax said to me last night. And I guess kind of makes sense. Like if you actually are judged that harshly for pimping a underage girl, then if the snitching won't make it any worse, I guess you might as well snitch.

It does kind of make sense. But, I mean, some people have like the principal conviction about it. It's about to torture their stuff like all that time. They don't know for me getting chopped up, stabbed that rape all type of Jesus Christ That's on them though, y'all Um, okay, I wanted to

Ask, okay, I am A friend, some might say Affiliated with your dad Who is? Well, she's not one with him? Wait, what now? Let me answer this question. So she's not Snoopy's kid?

No. Oh, I thought he was. Oh, that's good. Oh, shit, okay, I don't know. So, oh, he's just like with the younger That nigga weirdest kid. Oh. I thought you were really his kid.

We do not claim. He needs to be up on that case. Shut up. You can't say that as a joke. I'm just saying it's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's real life. That's like, come on.

That nike a weird. Great all that. Like, come on. You have said that. You know what I'm saying? That nigger, weird. That nigger texted me. Saying what?

Oh, because there was a video of him giving you money or whatever. No, that was true about that. He sent me a video of a girl giving him. Basically saying like, you're going to be outside, come pay me. And guess what he was trying to do. He was so mad trying to get my attention to give me to call him. And that still didn't get me to call. That nigga, that still didn't get,

he, he wanted a reaction. That he, and this is all legend, but you're saying that he wanted to be. This ain't a legend. Allegedly, this is real life. This is real life. This is the real life. Because you're talking about, on God.

But this right here is the real deal. Put that on your mama. On my mama, I'm a nigga on my little sisters. On God. And you're dead homies? On the dead homies. You got dead homies at 15? I don't know.

Yeah, I got dead homies. For real. Dead hookers. Adam, stop playing. ain't no dad is crazy I'm sorry No for real It is some people

That we're dying On that way And that's why they're tripping about this stuff Ladies talking about their kids is missing So You know I mean all you got to do If you want to kidnap somebody off there

Is get them in your car And then you just drive away right I'm surprised it doesn't have it more I mean Just keep driving Oh my God I mean it just It seems terrifying because you have no control over what's going to happen to you in that situation.

They point a gun on you, hey, shut the fuck up. I mean, what are you going to do? I'm opening up my legs like, you're not going to be child law. You don't have to take it. Matter of fact. No, they don't want to take it, though. They don't want to take it right here. They want to bring your ass to Mexico and monetize you for the next 40 years.

And I'll be monetized. I'm just playing. No, but. What? I'm just playing. I mean, I wouldn't. What do monetize me? What that mean?

You can make money off it. Oh, like, oh, like, selling you. monetize your YouTube channel. You can monetize a woman apparently. Oh, okay. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay.

Dear God. I thought I turned to a video. That just gave me like PTSD of like waking up this morning. Right, right, right. I don't want to wake up. Every morning. Yeah, okay, but like I just want to bring up another thing that I found kind of disturbing.

And I sort of like intentionally didn't really like delve deeper into your social media because I heard you talking about your YouTube. channel and in the software of an interview and I'm just kind of thinking like okay I don't want to see this this sounds crazy but you have an Instagram real that is kind of viral it's got like thousands of likes and shares

and everything and number one the song is past me the hookah yeah that's not my page I know what you're talking about and I was spreading money that's not my page that's a fake page it is really there's people pretending to be you and doing quite well on Instagram and it said Nova stop selling Cucci it was it's

okay number one the song I couldn't get over because I'm picturing that you being the one to post this past me the hookah. I'm like, oh my gosh, she got a sense of humor. This is fucked up. And then it's just flexing hell of money. Yeah, I'm just like, bro, you can't, like you seriously have an Instagram and you're out here flaunting this lifestyle. Like what the fuck? I mean, like, she make it look real fun.

And that's the problem. That's the problem. I think that's what makes so many people disturbed by this. Now, that's the thing. And that's why they're so mad at me. I'm like, but y'all don't know my daughter. She created. like she's she's a character

how do we funnel that into things that are more positive that's what we're trying to do and the thing is it takes time with these things and they're so busy making the wrong things viral it's very hard for her to now she just don't trust people like you see like now they're saying that she

what she is and she's cooperating with like things like that makes it disturbs that no it makes her really mad to like I don't I don't even have time to corroborate with no police. I'm damn there on the run. So what the fuck I look like corroborating

with the niggas that I'm running from? You know, like, they work with her because they want to help her because they like, you know, you are out here, you're not like a regular. They work with me. They work with you. Like, no, no, like the workers.

No, like a social worker. You said damn, they on the right. Oh, yeah. Like, let them know on the wrong from what. Not no. No, yeah, like, yeah, the social workers working me because they know, like. They want to say.

No, but you're, they work with me too because they know when they try to, to put me in a group home, I'm going to run away. So they just be nice as they can to me, you know, while they can, basically. So if they put you in a group home. I'm going to leave because I don't want to be there. There's just like, what are they going to do?

She didn't hop out of a police car. She don't cooperate with a police car, but. On the freeway. No, not a phone. See, the highway patrol. She has, she went viral. You were handcuffs or not? No, I didn't have by the car.

Mom, I didn't hop out of the car. That's what they told me. No, I hop out the, the social worker van. not the, okay, the social work event. They put an Ebony alert out on her. Fuck Amber. They put Ebony alert out on her. But that's not a real thing, is it?

Ebony alert is it. So it's a black girl that call it an Ebony Alert? Is that real? No, they only took that to me because I was a prostitute. It's not sexual to me. Ebony alert? Just because Ebony is the porn category? Yeah.

Yeah, right. I mean, I feel you, but is... Only Ebony I know is off Players Club. And you get what I didn't know what they were trying to get. Is an Amber alert for a black girl actually... called an ebony alert

it seems like it should all just be one alert like why do we have to have a different alert for black girls they were saying it was pretty racist it just seems kind of like you know they're all human right well it is that isn't that black girls oh I guess it's different

what is it seems racist it's a statewide emergency system in California specifically creative for black persons it just seems like if any young person is missing. It's like it should be equally of note. She was the first one. Are you charging my vape?

I never seen that. You charged you my vape? You're charging my vape? What? At least I don't smoke weed or do crack, you know? No, no, that's definitely good. Yeah, I know for sure. Vaping is the least of our problems here.

It's called harm reduction. I learned that in one of my classes. I didn't took all type of class for her. Parenting, domestic violence, human trafficking, parent's empowerment so that I can know how to deal with my child when she come from off the streets. I guess like you just got to understand how crazy it is for me to like be living in a world in which like, you know, I go to these parenting groups with these private school type things and I just see the like the level of the most overbearing just insanely neurotic parenting you could ever imagine. Right. And then I also know you.

We're also friends and I have to do interviews like this where I find out about just a totally different side of life. They love me in these classes. Like I relate to Indian women. I mean, they're like, can we have some side one-on-ones? Because they go through a lot of, yeah, like the Indians, they go through a lot of, their partner has more finances than them. And they treat them like shit. And then they have, you know, it's like domestic violence, low-key, you know, because they bully them. And then now the child is seeing it.

And then now the daughter is acting out. And then they go through puberty. And then they, so they come to me like. like, I've seen you and I see how you speak and you're so calm because they're going crazy. You see Indians on fake? No. No Indians on fake. No, I've seen Russians.

No, I've seen Russians. Russians. They don't even like, they speak English, but like, they can't really pronounce, you know, English for real. Like, well. I feel you. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not a lot. Like, I used to live in Korea town back in the day, 10 years ago. and I've never been to fig for the record, but like there would be white vans that I would see pulling up and they'd be dropping off little squads of black women with, you know, looking super dolled up, wearing nice ass stripper outfits, whatever.

And this is Korea town. And like, people told me like, yeah, yo, like these Korean dudes are buying black dudes. Like it's going on a style. I was kind of surprised. I don't know. They would just be dropping them off. Like it would be like a white van drop off five, six girls.

I'd be just like walking a 7-Eleven to buy back. woods and just looking at them like what the fuck like I couldn't believe it not kidnapping but like some type of sex ring yeah like that's sex trafficking yeah I mean there's a bunch of random processes you wouldn't it sex trafficking probably I just

I mean you think about that though like anyone who's ever bought pussy like anyone who's ever bought there's a pretty significant chance of that girl they want to be there right I mean if you if you bought unless you did it from her I guess and then you could be kind of shit you knew someone we're not going to say her name but

remember she said that she went through that, the young girl. Uh-huh. And there was something with a white van, and they took them to a house, and she would have to, like, have sex with people for, like, weeks and months. So I know we've heard that that is a thing that somebody, like, it's all hearsay, but we would never know. Are you exaggerating? Right.

Are you coming with this story because you're talking to Nova? But these girls now, like, they, um, I don't know, like, Like, they really don't want to get a job. So, you know, that's their only way of living now. Like, yeah. Because it's past money. Yeah, but that shit, well, that shouldn't even have paid money for real. Like, on Fig, like, mm-mm, it's not it.

Like, on Fig, that shit dried out bullshit. It's boring. How do you feel about podcasts, like, back on fig that are kind of encouraging this prostitution lifestyle? I don't think that they're encouraging. Oh. No, you're right, you're right. You're right. They're cracking down on it.

Yeah, they're cracking down on it. Because smack told the mayor. Right. That's what I was like to say. I've seen that. You saw that. Yeah. What do you think about that?

Smack's a truth teller. He is. And he's like more concerned because smack is like there's babies. Because just imagine him. You know, if he grew up over there, he probably know a few. Like, you never know. Somebody could be your cousin or something. That's like a tricky balance.

Okay. Smack on one hand, he's a good guy. He wants to crack down on underage prostitution. But on the other hand. He's basically talent on his own homies. Well, you know what? He didn't say his homies because people think that because they're on fig, it's a lot of people. It's a lot of hoods on fig.

Indians. You got all types of people. I don't want to say hoods, but I mean, what is hoovers is. It could be your neighborhoods over there if they slide through there real quick. I mean, people can work together for the greater good of making money. Anyway, I never seen any. I mean, when the girls are doing the dates, where are the pimps? I mean, that is true.

When you see these videos of the girls standing out there on the block, you don't really see a lot of, like, guys in fur coats lurking behind them. Exactly. I know they're not actually wearing fur coats or shit. Or watching the girls' backs. Like, come on. But they got to be, like, lurking in the shadows, keeping an eye on their investment, right? Yeah, somewhat.

Maybe I should go down there before it all gets shut down for the Olympics. Just to check it out one time, you know. Is that why they're cracking down on? Allegedly there's, like, all this big official shit. And if you think about it, it's like, if you have Chinese officials coming to your city do you really want them witnessing crazy shit like this i mean happens all the time you hear about like

uh san francisco had i forget what it was some big sporting event and they just wipe out the homeless like they're just not in the areas where do they go they just like kick them out i think they're just dropping them off in different neighborhoods and shit wow hey you're all going to skid row sorry i've been seeing that on tic-tac like oh my god where's the homeless people at and you know driving down the street it can't be that hard i was just in the oc last

weekend i didn't see a bum the whole time i was on the beach everything it's just no homeless people. I'm like, what are they doing? They're enforcing something here that LA just has no interest in doing. I don't know. I don't know exactly that works, but how do you guys feel about the online hate mob that really like exists to harass you guys? It feels like there's just like legions of women who I guess some of them are probably fans, but a lot of them are clearly like they're an anti-Tenia and Nova mob.

So I see more of the anti-tenia. I ain't even going to cap. Okay. It's me too. But then she tells me, you know, my mom, I got ops and they be, you know, prepare for the hate. And I do see that too. It's just the younger, like, you got the older people. I got the younger people, you feel me, like.

But the younger people come at me, too. You be with the kids. Like, you be inside. And you be outside, too, sometimes. But I be outside. Like, you feel me? So I really be seeing this shit in person. Like, my mom will be seeing the person, too.

But, like, every day, bro. you see me and they'd be like Mm-mm-mm. She need to go. Mm-hmm. She's too young. Mm-mm. Ray you're my man.

Mm-mm. Go home. Like, it's always something. They got to say, and I'll just be ignoring and I'll just be laughing till they get in my face and they do something. You feel me?

I mean, it's very... And then when shit like that happens, like, mm-mm. I can't think of any example that any underage, you know what girl was like this well-known. It just doesn't really happen.

But you know what was crazy, though? Not like that. It was just a video of a 13-year-old in some hills falling. Where? On fit. Seriously? Yeah, that's when she went viral. So it was a drone on fit, and it was like, she didn't know she was going to get caught by the drone.

No, that wasn't the drum. I wasn't on the drone. I was on the nigger that really be in the car, too, down, recording you. Well, it was a, you know, video. So, remember, she was running away, and they, like, mentioned to me. They like, ain't this your daughter? I'm like, excuse me? So it was just so shocking.

So I was just so shocking. So little puffs. So she looked like Power Puff Girl prostitin. So I'm like, you know what? This is like elementary. And so it was crazy because I didn't make it no better. I'm going live, pressing the issue, doing all these things. I'm like an update day.

Like where's the next update? Let's find her. It got to the point to where wherever she was, she would take like a picture in front of like a building. And it would just have like the address. They'll be like, we cracked her where she? she's at. I'll get DMs like she's at what the, what the intersection is. It's like, a lot of these women are like, they're kind of like true crime fans. Thank you. So they're thinking of it like, we're cracking a crime in real time. That's the new thing like ever

since like, like are y'all going to pay for this? And that's not what I don't know about. I think they have like a pretty significant female audience, which is like a different crowd than a female and then crazy life creep. Yeah. Interesting type of people. You get I'm saying. So they were, they just. I'm not going to lie. Like Mark, like, I'm not suggesting that Mark's into any weird shit, but it just felt like his, like, his attitude on you guys was like a little weird in that interview. Because he's kind of like, I'm so proud of what Nova has grown up to be. And I'm looking at him like, excuse me, sir.

I'm looking at him. Mark, like, you can't just put like a happy face on this. Like, what are you talking about? I don't think he'd be saying it like that. Maybe he's seen your growth. I'm not trying to take it for a man. He just be saying stuff. He'd be saying stuff like that because he's not in tune with the culture.

Let me tell you, no, it's not even that. He says, oh, I love what you growing up to, even though I'm not even, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not all the way. You feel me, like, you know, I'm just, I'm still growing and I'm still, I'm only 15. Because you could have been worse is what, what's saying. And he's, I think he'd be saying that because, like, I didn't let myself go. You see me? That's what I mean by that. So I could have been smoked out.

It's, it goes my age looking. I'm skinny, but really be skinny and stuff up. Having this conversation with you, I definitely, I feel like I could see. how this could have been worse. Yeah. Yeah. But it's still pretty fucked up. I didn't give a damn like how they say.

I could have been off of crack. Really slow off. And that's kind of a low bar. I could be on crack. I would have never been. I was so on her ass. You know, there's always, you know, they say behind every good man. There's a good woman.

It is. I'm just behind the scenes. I'm behind the scenes. If her confidence goes down, I'm boosting it right back up. As I should because if it's low, she will go low. So the mom do. have a lot to do with it, even though I still can't control her. It's only so much

that a parent can do when they walk out them doors. So what I'm going to do? Put your hands behind your back. Let me handcuff you to the house. Are you crazy? I think a lot of moms think that that is possible. A lot of moms don't even know that they, kids is up in the room talking to Nova like, tell me how to escape,

all day long. Oh my God, Nova, I'm about to run away. What should I do? No, but I'll be telling them like, I'll be like, what is you running away for? She talked to everybody in the den. I'd be telling them like, what is you running away for i'll be like bro when um i'll be like because when you really

those stink team guys they get a little loud I'd be like so what do you really um I would like why you want to run away because when you really get out here you're gonna want to go back home like so I'll be telling I don't be influenced nobody to run away but when they'd be like oh my uncle touched on me and and my dad walked in the house butt naked like shit like that that's the only time I'd be like yeah you could call me

walked in the house so he was naked outside and they just came in like Jesus. I don't know. Some bitch had told me like she had, um, her dad just got out of jail and I guess he was in there doing drugs, you know, so he got out on some smoker shit and he walked in the house butt naked. Wow. Jesus.

Okay, because like one of the more disturbing things I felt like I picked up from learning about your story is like, you know, Mark's kind of ask you like, how you've been making money and you're like, oh, I've been selling pictures. So you're basically like acknowledging that you're selling child porn. Me? Yeah. I'm acknowledging it. Yeah.

No, I'm just trying to me. And then he's like, oh, yeah, like, I'm so proud of me. He's not like, no. He didn't say like that. He's like a latter part of the interview where he said that. He would go to me and say, and hey, and what do you think about this? I mean, come on. It has to be from you, right?

Like, her selling content from me, that just seemed like, damn, my mama took me off the blade. Let me sell content now because the bitch is on me. How are you selling it? Just like in the DMs? And that's why you're getting your accounts deleted? Yeah. Exactly. And I feel like telegram and shit.

illegal shit basically. Oh my good. But like, so, well, you just have like mobs of people showing up in your DMs trying to purchase this kind of content? Yeah. Creeps. That's so crazy, bro. Creeps.

Because I feel like we always think that it's like dudes exchanging this kind of content on the internet, on the dark web, whatever. It was like kind of mind-blowing to realize like, oh, like certain girls are just like taking this upon themselves. Right. It's like a low-key, like underground only fans style market. Me too. And you know what's he?

even crazier. You know how girls lie about their age? Oh, she stopped lying about her. Oh, yeah. I don't lie about my age. That's the marketing. Because I was telling her, stop lying about your age. Now she started telling the truth. It's like, you got to be really specific when it come to the child like this. Because when you tell her one thing, she'll turn it and flip it and reverse it and be like, but you said, mom. And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, you remember. And I'm like, no, I didn't mean it in that

way. I meant it in this way. But, you know, things happened. I think it was a way. it was awareness because it lets people know she's just thinking out loud she's expressing herself in this way a lot of girls are sneaking this so when you want to know why your daughter got the door closed why she acting funny because she's doing something sneaky

check her fucking phone. Who me? Yes. So that's me being a parent I never have the door closed I was locking it being emo. Yeah I was emo, but I wasn't freaky. I was like,

You were writing on your daughter email. Writing on your face. You're on your young boy shit. Doing all the stuff. What's not my young boy shit? What, really? She was on her young boy in this house. It was a point to where I had to ban young boy.

I'm like, now she's some killer shit. Then I'm like, hyphenice. I'm like, are you going to try to kill me in my sleep? One time. Are you 4K tray? You got the green hair. At that time, her favorite rapper was Y and W. W.

Yeah, Y NW. Melly. No, you became Jaybo. That was my favorite. Remember, you told me to stop listening to him to? Who, Jaybo? And then I said, no, no, I'm not Jaybo. You got skits? I like, that's my man.

No, remember I was watching this interview and you was like, what you want to be like him? Because she was watching nothing but thug-ass interviews. I'm like, why are you looking at jail scared straight? You're going to end up on it. Maybe because her mom's on no jumper. I wasn't on no jumper. I was just saying, like, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. But let me tell you, though.

Let me tell you why I started doing all this, because I'm like, oh, this shit ain't working. and she actually started doing this at 11 and 12 when I left from singing so I tried to do the mom thing she like the fuck you a boring ass mom I'm about to turn this shit up the devil used her

so now she comes and wreck everything and I'm like shit when I'm about to step outside a little bit because I had to step out of my shell like okay so what you want me to be a fun mom you're on you

not on you what do you want a strict mom You want a mom You don't want a mom She's like no I want a mom I wish you would smoke weed Again but Yeah love it's so hard

When you can't smoke weed I just wanted to smell it She just wanted to smell it So it's like You know this is a different type of child But I put it up Because I do see myself in her a lot Then I see her dad in her

And then she got her own little shit Going on to where These new kids These YN She's a YN A YB A YB I didn't think that she was going to be a, I thought she was going to be like a tomboy.

And that's what, she was a tomboy six months before she went off. When she was running away, she was just like a nigger. I thought it was pretty funny to hear you describing her as a stud, but you're talking about her when she was like 13. It's like she hasn't even gone through puberty yet. Like, it's kind of weird for you to be like putting her in these categories. But I'm still a tomboy. Like, you know, I'm still a tomboy. She's not girly, girlie, girl.

I don't just like this because I was coming on here, but I'd be wearing like hoodies and sweatpants and shit. And I'd be like, get some chains and get this and do this. She's like, huh? On the dead homies. Okay. On the dead homies, that's real. Yo, okay, big picture question.

And don't interrupt, Ania. What did your mom teach you about the importance of beauty? I don't know. She just always made me look cute. Okay. I don't really know. What about the sitting up? I don't know.

Oh, like, oh yeah, my posture. Because I used to be like this like a boy. Like I used to be like that. And then even about, um, like, she, like, is, do you mean that about like, her show me how to dress and shit? Like, did that count? And did your mom? She used to show me how to dress different.

Like, these little girls used to wear, like, bike and stresses shit. She was trying to make me, like, dress different, like old school a little bit. And she'll be like, that's cute. You don't always have to dress like, you know, hoochie, you know? Do you think that your mom taught you? What? I'll fuck with the hooves. I don't know.

I'm going to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but did your mom, do you think I, at a, certain point your mom kind of basically taught you that men are there for you to like profit from like did you did she give you that mentality of like this is i mean i always see my mom get like money like you know not like in a whole way but like every nigga that she was dealing with they would do something for her you know so i'll already be thinking like okay so a man is supposed to do something for you you know like you know i never seen her for nobody and then like he was just around like

You feel me? Like, you know? I hid everything, but she's so nosy. But I never, she never really made it seem like a man is going to, like, help us do anything. Because I never seen a man, you know, really help her do anything. She always did doing shit by herself, you know, but they give her money and shit, but they don't really, they just give her money and then be like, okay, do whatever you want with it. But they don't really help.

I don't let them live with me. Yeah, like shit like that. I never have girlfriends out the house. They never seen. They used to be like, mom, when are you going to date? They try to put people on me. He's good for you. He's good for you.

He's. I don't think a nigga a man did was what? Build up a bed for you, mom? Build up a bed for me. That's it. It broke down. It takes one like an hour. It's like, build an idea bed.

I think, I think, what? And after that, you kicked them out, like, the nigger from breakfast. Oh, my God. This is crazy, bro. Wait, which one, mom? Which one? Girl, I don't even remember. When they broke down, they both wasn't staying with a fucking.

I hate that I'm. I'm, like, now habituated enough to this that I'm just laughing and not, like, feeling horrified. Like, that's kind of fucked up in and of itself. It's not because... But it's not horrifying because... It's not horrifying. Yeah, but I feel like shit is worse than you're actually admitting.

Exactly. Wait, what? Yeah. I feel like you're probably doing bad shit that you're not admitting. Your lifestyle's more fucked up than you're willing to admit. No, bro. I can't, bro. You're fucked up enough.

I mean, yeah. Just me being young. Yeah, no. No, but like... I don't know who. I said shit But I'm not out there no more Like I can't even be out there no more

Like too many people know me bro Like you know Come on Adam Like if somebody was to see you right now Even though you don't do nothing bad to nobody They're gonna try to rob you Or try to do some weird shit You know? Like me

They're just out to get me So what the fuck can I really do out here She told me mom having cloud is not what I thought it would be I thought they were like Run up to me like how they praised me And not praise me But how they're like running my views up And talking about me

I'm thinking they're going to be nice. She's like, they want to fight. They're talking shit to me. They're talking shit about chew. They telling me, they telling her, because a lot of people like, bitch, when I see you, telling me. When I see you to Nia, I'm going to fight you

because you got your daughter out there. And then they're telling her, I'm going to fight chew because you're stressing your mom out. Hey, what the fuck? Like, so we got fades because. That's crazy. What are we doing? I mean, that's crazy.

Now they're putting us in this shit. So, you know, for the record, we had to address. because we are from South Central, first of all. We're from L.A. And I do be around, so I'm not going to have... What you can't? I'm not going to wear that jacket. I'm not no snitch.

I don't cooperate with no police. We wouldn't even been in there. I never cooperated with police. Like I said, that's not my type. That's not... I don't get down like that. I never really pay the niggas. I always have boyfriends, but I don't pay niggas.

Like, you feel me? I don't... And the way they're trying to paint the hooves, they just mad because the hooves is on top right now. Like, that's what they do. When people are on top and they're doing good, it's like they want to bring them down it's like they can't even let

no neighborhood basically so that's why they basically doing that to them because that's their hood for me it's kind of crazy because like the last couple months we've had a bunch of Hoover drama that's kind of played out on this podcast

Gumby and Hawk going at each other and shit like that and then all of a sudden this Rico comes out and it's like for the conspiracy theorists it's got to be kind of convenient like oh no jumber starts talking about the Hoover's all of a sudden this big Rico

even though the Rico doesn't have anything to do it anybody that we were really... I got a pee. Yeah, we can wrap this up. How long are we gone? Hour in ten. Hour and ten. How are in tons?

He's pretty good. That's pretty much all my questions. Oh, my last question, do you think that the city girls and other rappers, female rappers, who talk about all this whole shit? Do you think that they in any way led to the direction that your life was going there for a while?

No. I don't listen to them. You're not listening to JT. Yeah, I listen to like E.BK. J. Bo. Who was a lot? You listen to everybody. She got good taste of music.

Actually, you listen to a lot. That's my favorite rapper. Like that's why I listen to the most. But y'all listen to all the type of people. That's like killer music. That's what I'm saying. I don't like all that girl in conversations. Oh, yeah.

They want to make this sound complicated. Yeah, yeah. So you would rather listen to killer music and that gets you hyped up to go do whatever you're going to do, get money. No. I don't do that shit no more, Adam. She loved people talking about their life, how crazy. Yeah, like because I relate to it. No, but somehow that does make sense to me.

because I listen to EBKJB or about killing people and then I come and do podcasts. It doesn't run, that almost says. No, for real. I relate to, like, I love Big Sack because you know what? I deal with a lot of anxiety and depression sometimes. So, like, hearing him talk about his life

and it's, like, so therapeutic. He's kind of candid, yeah. He's a poet. It's like I love it, you know? So we relate to what we... But I don't listen to, like, stand a girl and Lil Kela and, like, girls like that. Like, yeah, it's too, like...

That shit annoying, bro, like... No Cardi B. She's like a old head to you? No, no. What? The only female I probably listen to is like, there's love. I don't listen to it.

I kind of fuck with Cardi B. Like, she got a new song that's over this old as Jay Z B, and I'm listening to her, and I'm like, you know, she's a great rapper. Jay C-T-T-T. No, Cardi B. Oh, Cardi B? I ain't never heard to a goddamn city girl in my life.

Really? I mean, I heard it in the club, but that's not mine. Cardi B is cool. I like the love. You be at the club? Not really, but I ended up there before. You in the club? No, I can't.

I wish. Is that exciting? Like one day I'm going to stand on the couch. One day I can't win. One day someone's going to buy me a bottle. Okay. That's crazy because that's six years from now. I could buy a bottle, bro.

Okay. But that's not the game. The game is to get some Indian guy to buy some bottles. But again, you're not allowed to go to the club for six years. Somehow I can see you probably find your way in there before then. You're kind of conniving. We're not going to New York. Who?

You, right? You're not going to make any more journeys to the other side of the country Because that really stressed your mom out there for a little bit But I'll tell her if I leave What? That was the most mom moment In the whole day I was like to grab you're really tired

Yeah, what were you guys doing last night? She's yawning and shit Oh me? Yeah Last night She always yawning What was we doing last night? What time you go to bed?

Oh, I'm yawning Oh yeah, I was doing my hair And All night? Not on. How on does that take? Yes, bro. I have no idea.

Then we stopped by like 3 o'clock in the morning. Oh, yeah. But I go to sleep late anyways. Yeah, me too. So I was on my phone, smoking my vape. She annoyed me. And we was looking at all type of stuff. Like, we really be politicking for real because we have to.

Yeah, we were looking at the indictment. You see, yeah, you're trying to like politic. And I'm like, mm-mm, look at these. If it wasn't for her, she like, mom, we got to clear this up. See, me, I've been hearing it for like three, four days. I'm like, these niggies is cloud chasing. Me too. When she called.

When she called. got on the phone and said that we're going to court. I'm like, okay, now this is going too far. So now, you know, it's really I do things like for my kids. Like, I really didn't care. They can say whatever. They call me. All type of holes. The shit ain't true. But snitching and shit, that's a whole different

of the case. Like, bro, that's out, bro. This might be like one of the most fascinating interviews I've ever done. Really? Yeah, it's crazy. You have no idea how crazy you are. Like, your lifestyle. My life is fucking crazy. It's so outside. the norm. It is.

It's wild. And you have no idea. Like, if we were to do a show and you guys were to really see deep into it and we don't have to censor shit, bro, I'll be a millionaire. I'm going to let somebody else produce that show. But I definitely think there's a show there. Really? Look into it, Adam.

The show where? A TV show about you guys? Probably no TV show is going to make a show about all this until you're of age. I think that. Probably Hulu is not going to pull the trigger until then. it's just my guess No Netflix hat You didn't see that movie

When it was Them little girls It's like Oh The one about the cheerleader The ballerina What was it called cuties? Yeah

That's what it was Cuddy's but I was some weird That shit Yeah That can promote shit like that That was controversial Somehow I think that I think that the

Underage Blade Walker Documentary More Oh god I was watching When I was watching She used to be a Netflix freak That's the thing too Like

I watch every movie on there she's viral. That's nothing. She's like good with her camera, good with editing my YouTube videos and stuff. Doing all this shit. Like she really like, but of course it had to come out like this on some whole shit. Where's the camera even at? Oh!

It don't be looking like that. So which camera do we talk to? It'd be looking for me. Okay. Yeah. Because it's capturing you from all angles, but you wanted to feel natural. But I thought it'd be, I thought it'd be in the front of you. No. Because you'd be too looking at that camera if it was. So they got this side of me and that's it?

no like a few angles like kind of two angles on you right there yeah they could switch between them right now bing bong bing bong okay I appreciate you guys coming through thank you glad we were able to sort of clear those before k a lot of yeah because you wasn't going to clear it up for me

exactly honestly you're gonna see that me and wag did the podcast yesterday it's gonna come out Sunday but he basically was kind of troll and acting like it was a fact that you told on him and I was like there's no there's no like that fat motherfucker yeah my camera He is fat.

He's always making shit weird. We're going to get them on Ozumpic. Ozzyk, yeah. We're going to load them up. You know what? Dead homies. And guess what? I do it for my child.

You know what I'm saying? I don't do it for, look, I got to end up my own name up and my own daughter name. She cleared their own name up. Exactly. We, you know, we are here. We outside. I respect it.

I appreciate it. Tania, Nova. Thank you guys very much. Welcome. Appreciate it. No jumper. Coolest podcast. Like, comment and subscribe.

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