No Jumper - Tee Grizzley Snitched?? This is BAD! Flakko is in Hot Water in LA & More
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Okay, Pete, my energy because today I'm rocking a little bit higher energy levels, I think, because it's 12 o'clock.
Normally we film the show at like five, so they might get a little bit of a different body.
Your energy a little lower because I'm just going to bed about full in the morning.
So you're going to use this as an opportunity to talk about how you're staying up on that stuck in R&B's toes?
No, I just go to bed four in the morning.
What are you doing that late?
well a lot of my business is overseas so that's you know they our time day like 10 12 hours ahead of us
so you know our day time don't do nothing for me as business concern and um why have a
on your hat a what no that's a rooster oh yeah get it right sorry
you know what I'm saying as I said we're getting off to a hot start here
You know what I'm saying.
Talking about time zones, talking about
on head.
And I don't appreciate y'all trying to tag team my student, homie.
Student.
Oh, you bust the ass, he's sitting in here talking Craig what the homie didn't.
You know what I'm saying?
And Haffei didn't.
Who's your student?
Flocko.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all leave the homie alone.
You know what I'm saying?
He run the streets of L.A.
when they come to the YouTube streets.
So you've decided to be his protector now?
No, I'm not.
Listen, I'm just a mentor.
Okay.
You know, if you notice, it's been a change in his content and his details, you know what I'm saying?
Oh.
He got access to the exposed award chest.
Really?
You put him in the group chat.
Not what, me and him is in the chat, but if he needs something, I said,
Flocko, before you jump out the window on some of your stuff, some of your stuff, be on point,
but then you would say something that's like so far off, it throws the rest of it all.
Just call and let me know.
He said, I didn't think, I thought you would have.
I ain't got a problem with you run.
Anything that's on the internet.
Anything that these bozos
that can't bury themselves
that won't incriminate themselves
put on the internet, you got the right
to use that. Can't bury themselves
seems like an attack.
No, no, that's the reality. The truth
could never be considered disrespect.
Well, yeah. No, no one can
bury themselves once they're dead. No, bullshit.
I'm buried already.
Okay. I know what's going to happen, when
it's going to happen. These fools
running around here, they buying Jordans,
Gucci belts, they spend it.
I don't know how much eighths weed costs
all this shit. Fake jury,
even if it's fake, it costs something, right?
Bro, and I say this,
and I swear, don't call me about
no gang member. If he wasn't my
family, wasn't my people, and they knew who
they are. Don't call
me about no gang members go from me.
I'm going to tell you why.
You're why. It costs every bit
of 25 to 30
to 30 dollars a month
to make sure your family
ain't selling dinners doing car washes
and stressing about how they're going to bear you.
So if you can go buy Gucci belts,
you can go buy eighth of weed a day,
you can spend a dollar a day
to make sure you got a $30,000,
little policy
to make sure you go on the ground
that maybe you can leave five,
10,000 for your little baby to go into an account.
So when they 18, something's there.
I'm just being real.
Maybe we should get a life insurance sponsor so that we can kind of work with them to
influence.
I've been putting it together.
You want to do it under no jumper?
Sure.
All right.
I pay a significant amount for life insurance.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
A whole lot.
Yeah.
Sometimes it feels kind of stupid.
Like, why don't I just use this money now?
Like, what the fuck do I care about what happens after I die?
Well, it's not about you.
It's about the family.
You knowing that ain't no stress and stress.
Now, if you know your account, a lot of these dudes, they ain't got bank accounts.
They live in all in their pocket.
You know that?
Okay.
Financial literacy within, let's say, the hip-hop community, not great.
Block who addresses that?
Yeah.
I mean, there's just like a lot of stuff.
Like, just things I've seen over the years on Melrose and et cetera, where it's just like, you know, people just spend money like absolute fucking idiots.
But the rappers, too.
Like, even the people who've made it, it's like they're spending huge amounts of money on clothes and jewelry just to keep up.
this image that they're doing better than they are.
My thing is this, you cannot blame Flacco for being a great researcher.
If you put it on the internet, if this dude say, I'm dropping my low, I'm dropping my low,
pull up, and then some dudes pull up and get you out of here.
And then the next day, they go do a song and say, yeah, you drop your load, but you ain't
hear no more.
And mention his name.
And Flacco says, hmm, hmm, drop the low.
enemy this okay this is my content you gave it to him what if he puts the pieces of the puzzle
together but he's wrong about the details and then you have somebody out here who said something
in a song that was like meant to be generic or meant to be about somebody else and now all of a
sudden he's being accused of basically bragging about a murder that he actually didn't want to
have any involvement with and then falkos out here putting this narrative out there what then
if you say listen if your op get killed monday right
It's not wise for you to drop a song Tuesday.
In reference to anything or any details,
you're putting up shit on your story.
Don't come by weed in this neighborhood.
And you from there, and it happened there.
And it's been a 30-year war going on.
But when I see Polk do that,
I feel like that's him.
If anything, that's him acknowledging that he didn't have anything to do with it.
So why not make fun of it?
You and Lush got the same weird mentality.
How is that seeing that saying that's acknowledgement that he didn't have nothing?
He's saying don't come by over in this neighborhood.
That in acknowledgement, that's a warning.
You see what happened?
Okay.
But he's definitely not saying, hey, I did this.
Yeah, but here goes the thing with him.
You're from there.
That neighborhood is there.
The war with Dool's neighborhood is your neighborhood.
Right.
It just was unaliving across the street that we're.
We all saw.
Three weeks prior to, you ain't supposed to say, I guarantee you,
his G.
homie hit him and said, bro, what is you doing on the internet?
First and foremost, this is inner city L.A.
We know who hood it is, but it could have been anybody.
The minute you go to doing that, you alert law enforcement, okay, let's do a sweep.
You get what I'm saying?
Maybe he doesn't have anything to worry about.
It ain't about him.
He got a whole-tied-up the loose ends.
He got a whole-
community over there that's walking around, driving around certain things.
Like when something like that happened, we get quiet.
So Flacco putting the narrative together is okay, but people who are actually from that
community making comments about it, that's not okay?
It don't start with Flaco and in with Flacco.
It start with the dudes in the streets putting it on the internet.
If they don't never put it on the internet, it's not there to talk about.
Flacco is the scariest dude in L.A. County.
Okay.
He's not driving out, Crenshaw, Sloss in Manchester, Florence, goddamn fig.
No.
Flacco's sitting in his spot on his laptop, scrolling through.
He should have a desktop set up.
If you leave it there for him to see, how could you get mad?
You can't get mad, bro.
Fair now.
Okay, but I had a thought process when I've been kind of watching this whole,
Hoover Crip things, a little war that seems like it's playing out.
You can watch videos that basically illustrate how a lot of these different killings
possibly are interconnected.
And I've kind of sat back and had the thought of process of like,
everybody wants to act like podcasts or the thing that's stirring up a lot of drama
and shit.
But as far as I know, none of this shit has been going on with people who are in the
public eye, podcasters, etc.
So here we have Flacco rushing to do his job and kind of turn this into more of an
internet thing that it's been so far. He's he's calling people the prime minister of certain hoods.
He's, he's kind of like sculpt this beef into something more palatable for the internet.
The people he's giving names to, right? These are people that's taking it upon their self.
Yeah. To pump content out there like they're that guy, right? In some cases. Okay, so now,
Flaco, what he's doing, he don't know what, he don't know what it is. Okay, you're the prime minister over here.
You the queen over there.
You the bookie man over there.
Y'all over here taking your shirts off,
talking about what you're going to do,
what you ain't going to do.
Every chance I get, you hear me tell the people,
I'm not a gangbanger.
Right?
I did so great.
I got an F on the gang bang report card.
That's a passing grade to me.
I'm still a slightly off
because I wanted to be to a point.
where I'm not even considered to be on a report card.
Maybe next year.
You get what I'm saying?
So my thing about it with Flaco, Flacco right now holds the crown when it comes to the
YouTube streets of being the top podcaster reporting on L.A. politics.
That's like a dude telling me I can't report on New York politics.
Hassan Campbell just called Gerald Prince Miller, Supreme's nephew, said that he got knocked out in the
feds by preacher from the preacher crew.
Now, I don't know if you're up on the preacher.
The preacher crew was like a dangerous squad.
Have you ever watched a Dame Dash movie?
What's that movie?
Painting full.
Painting full?
Yeah.
Okay, remember when they snatched a little boy in his finger back?
That was a preacher crew.
But they would, they snatch you, held you for ransom.
You find a motherfucker head in that park body over here.
So dude goes to jail.
And Hassan Campbell does a,
a thing saying because Supreme
them was suing him for $3 million
for defamation of character
and slander, right? Because Assan
said he shot Little Supreme's mama, right?
So they're suing Hassan?
Hell yeah. Because he said that?
He said it. They suing it. The whole, listen, the whole
playing field's about to change. We're going to
have this conversation. How so? I just got
my settlement is coming. For playing
with my name. Oh, it's about to change.
Really? Yeah, it's just
about to change. So if you come in here,
in a Gucci sweatsuit, that's going to be why?
No, I mean, I got them shit, I just don't wear them.
Okay.
Well, you do, yeah, he's looking good in his off white today.
So, V-Lone last week, off-white this week.
But what I'm saying is, I got the paperwork to what happened.
It wasn't a knockout.
Gerald Prince Miller got the paperwork, saw the preacher do was telling, which I got that
paperwork too, and saw him in Bolema, USP, and went at him with a knife fight.
Prince, a little dude, buck 50.
Preacher, big old dude, right?
So, but what I'm saying is they're saying, oh, whack, that's New York.
Listen, I got the paperwork.
I got all the documents, incident report.
How do I get it?
Prince gave it to me.
He gave it to me what I'm even asking.
I asked him what happened with it.
He said, I'll send you the paperwork on it you see for yourself.
But what I'm saying, just because Flacco from North Dakota,
bro, if you're putting it on the internet,
if Flacco report on whack had a crash out on Clubhouse,
I can't be mad at Flacco for reporting that because it's on the internet.
Because it's on the internet.
I intentionally allow my media team to take that content and put it up.
You never see my clubhouse stuff on my channel.
It's for my media team.
Okay.
So you came anything you do.
You was walking around here, walking a dog with somebody for the community.
You walk in here with thongs on and put it on the internet, right?
Are you going to be mad that somebody talks about that on the internet?
That's great.
You put it on there, right?
Oh, yeah.
So if you put it on there,
Blood, Cub, paro, groove.
Stop being mad that Flacco found a way to take you and pimp you.
That's a fact.
You can't be mad at them.
Let them do it.
Let them air out all your neighborhood business.
They're putting it on the internet.
I agree.
Now here goes the thing.
If little old Flacco can find it with his little L.A. mentality mind.
Imagine what the cops got.
Boom.
They got a whole division like homicide,
robbery division, that's social media.
It's no doubt my mind, every clubhouse session,
every live I do, every no jumper live, they're in there.
We know that.
It's been too much reported and indictment.
I don't know if they need to be here live.
No, they're in there.
They're in the chat.
Even in the chat.
Bro, they're in the, bro, you read,
anybody that went to jail,
that no jumper was mentioned for something they did
up here, detail for detail is right.
But they don't have to watch it live.
They can just watch it after the fact.
Guarantee you, bro, when they know that Brick was here or scheduled or whatever, they're
watching.
Anybody they got an eye on their watch.
It's no doubt they watch everything we do.
There's no doubt.
So my thing is what makes you think you gang banging?
These dudes, you do know an extended clip is illegal in the state of California.
I do.
An assault rifle, right?
you do know if you show
a arm lifts of money
but you have no job
right
you know all these things
they can use against you
but you put it on the internet
no that's really
these dudes that's in jail
they really don't think
that these dudes they expose them
that they knocked out
put peanut butter in their cheeks
and did all kind of shit to right
you really don't think that these dudes
that may be on the PC yard
ain't sitting back saying
I know he in this prison
hey baby
call up to the prison
and tell him such and such
send him this clip
tell him dude got a cell phone up there
you talking about
you exposing people
that you're saying
it's PCs
That's what you did to be Braz
right you called the name
He got a phone
I would not he used my name
That's stupid for what
Can I think about me
And B Braz and never got into it
Oh okay
You never did that to anybody
I think that's in your bag of church.
You ever instructs someone to do it?
That's telling.
You could do it anonymously.
You see what I did to Assign Campbell, right?
You smashed his whole shit.
God has YouTube channel taking that.
He blames you for costing him like a million.
No, that's the fact.
Yeah.
So what I'm telling you is, if I'm a play, listen.
You shouldn't brag about that either.
I don't give a f***.
I told him what I was going to do.
He could sue you.
Listen, I told him what I was going to do.
Uh-huh.
You hear me?
See, my satisfaction as an Aries man,
and being bullhead as I am,
I don't want to, I don't,
I don't believe in stealing.
I believe in taking.
You get what I'm saying?
Stilling is like,
I know you got something in your office
and then you go to the bathroom
to your car and I go in there and get it, right?
That's sneaky.
Right?
I believe that I want to take it.
I want you to know
that I have violated you.
I want you to, I want you to know
that it's because of me,
your shit is gone.
Your channel's gone.
Now, out of respect of
certain individuals from B. Bray's neighborhood,
could I snatch his channel?
Of course I can.
I don't want to snatch your phone.
Look, that's your phone.
You may be calling your kids, your mama,
or whoever on that phone.
I don't want to snatch your phone.
But if I was tripping,
I'm going to snatch the channel.
The channel going to leave.
All right?
Now, at that point in time,
me and B. Braves had never had no issues.
You know, he talked a little shit,
but I don't like the flag.
You'd be blown up his neighborhood.
and his day at home, he'd be, he'd just be, maybe be high or would he be on,
but he'll put that, he'll swear to God that I had his phone to.
I don't even know where you at.
I don't know, I don't know what dude is ever.
I am dying to get into this topic.
What do you have on T. Grizzly?
You were hitting me up last night, basically saying that.
I sent it to everybody.
T. Grizzly is finished.
Everybody got the blast.
T. Grizzly, from my perspective, always seemed like a good guy.
I saw a guy.
What do you got on?
He always been good with me, but I came front.
The little homie baby shooter from Fire Trey Avalon.
You know shooter.
I remember this, yeah.
Oh, you're saying he told in that situation?
You remember shooter, right?
I remember shooter.
Okay, shooter.
Remember shooters in there for the thing with the Atlanta boy, the Atlanta rapper with the
Rose Royce is shooting in Hollywood of Beverly Hills.
Who?
Like two, three years ago.
If you pull it up, he was driving like some Asian dudes Rose Royce,
who some diplomatic.
Oh, the Korean billionaire guy?
Yeah.
So it was a rapper do something, J or something from Atlanta, and he got robbed.
Money got shot.
So Shooter been.
Jay Money.
Yeah.
Shooter been fighting that case.
He didn't have two hung juries.
He'd go back for his, start his third trial next week.
Shooter been telling me for like nine months, it's on my phone.
Right?
Bro, whoop-to-whoop told on me, I say, shooter, you know, I know T.
Grisley.
Because shooter basically broke into T-Grizzly's house.
I don't know.
Allegedly.
This is what he's being charged with, right?
Yeah.
So he's been telling me, I'm like, you got the charge.
He said, nah, but it's coming.
My attorneys keep telling me the detectives is calling him, right?
So last night, Shooter told me on this date, hold on.
Because I remember that when I had him on the podcast, that a shooter, I don't know if I'm going to find this clip,
but shooter basically was, like, pissed off about.
October 16, what shooter telling me?
What's up, Unk?
I got jury selection next week, and I got all my paperwork from cases from the lawyer and sent it home.
We're going to expose that fuck N-word.
Right?
So last night, last night at 724.
My brother told me to send this to you.
I didn't know what it was.
See, I respond.
I say, what brother sent what?
Because it's number one in my line, right?
Uh-huh.
He said, baby shooter.
I said, okay, that's nephew, let me check it out.
He said, all right, I read it.
I said, is this T. Grizzly telling him no nephew?
He said, all right.
He said, yeah.
So now shooter got an ad charge now.
Ad charge was that?
Because he didn't have his charge.
He's just been fighting the shooting.
I think at one point there was a clip of shooter talking about this T.
T. Grizzly robbery situation, and I feel like it was on our channel and we ended up having to take it down.
And listen, that's cool.
And I'm going to be real.
I'm all for T. Grizzly calling the police.
Hear me.
After a L.A. gang member robs his abode.
No, no.
I'm all for T. Grizzly calling the police insurance reason.
You got to make a report.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right? Come on, let's just be real.
That's how they get you.
That's how they turn everybody in the snitch.
No, no.
He called the police, make a report, break.
You see the glass door broke.
These things are missing cool.
Now,
This word went too far for me.
He turned into video surveillance.
He didn't have to do that.
But okay, you did that.
Where it really went too far with me is when he picked baby shooter out the lineup.
And so you know that to be a fact.
That's a fact.
Was T. Grizzly in the house when Baby Shooter broke into the house allegedly?
No, but he said in the statement that Baby Shooter bragged about it.
it.
Do you think he's talking about the podcast or you think he's talking about it?
I don't know when he bragged about it.
And listen, I'm all for baby shooter.
If he did that, I mean, he knows how I talk to him.
I'm all for his little dumb ass.
If the police, okay, they see when you bragging, you got this on in another picture
and the video looked like the same hoodie, I'm all for the police put that together, right?
But why would he grisly even have, like, any authority to be picking somebody out of a lineup if he never saw them in real life?
he said he bragged about it and gave him his Instagram.
So now you know what he looked like.
Well, he like hit him up personally.
It's on the paperwork.
So he DMed him on Instagram.
Shooter's IG is on the paper.
LOL, I robbed your house.
Shooter's Instagram.
He'd give him the Instagram.
He'd get a police.
He said, this is his Instagram.
So if somebody say, this is Wack 100 Instagram,
that person had already been on my Instagram.
You know what I look like, all this.
And that's what that paperwork.
what it's saying. Claims is that he did that.
I mean,
yeah, read it.
Pick it's some, I can't, it's way too small, but,
I mean, we can show it on the screen.
This is what we do know.
I don't really, I don't have the eyesight to read such a thing right now.
This is what we do know, right?
It's right there.
Maybe if I brought it up on my phone, I could, but.
It's right there.
This is what we do know.
Okay.
Shooter got an ad charge.
Now, we're going to sit back and wait, and we're going to see what happened.
Shooter been in the county, at least two years and some change, going to trial.
He on his third jury trial on one case.
He ain't taking no deals.
You see what I'm saying?
So now we're going to see when it comes to trial.
What happened?
Okay.
So basically the detective, oh, so on the day of T. Grisley's engagement wedding, his home was targeted.
So that's clever, I guess, that they, you know, were aware.
Somebody no inside.
Yeah.
And so the detective provided Mr. Wallace,
aka T. Grizzly,
with a six-pack lineup to see if he was able to identify any suspects.
Mr. Wallace then chose figure number four,
which was a photograph of Johnson shooter.
Mr. Wallace stated that he doesn't know Johnson personally,
but Johnson bragged about breaking into T. Grizzly's residence.
I then provided T. Grizzly a photograph of shooter
and two unknown male figures on what seems to be a FaceTime call.
T. Grizzly informed me that he got Shooter to admit his role in the burglary.
Mr. Wallace then provided me with video from security cameras,
which showed an unknown assailant exiting the rear of the residence.
The assailant had on a black and white hooded sweatshirt.
Mr. Wallace, T. Grizzly,
then provided me with a photograph of what seemed to be Johnson via the Instagram account
shooter gang with 5-3 instead of the O's and an underscore
standing on a dark gray colored SUV
wearing the black and white hooded sweatshirt.
I then provided Mr. Wallace a link to www.
evidence.com to upload the photographs and videos.
I then asked T. Gersley if he had any questions for me.
T. Grizzly stated that he didn't have any more questions
to me so I ended my investigation as I didn't have any further questions
for Mr. Wallace at this time.
So I guess, yeah, are you allowed to pick somebody out of a line?
No, here goes the thing, right?
Is the decision on here?
And I'm going to be real.
I feel like we've kind of gotten into the territory of things that are self-evidently not allowed.
What I'm saying is this, though, bro.
And I really believe it's radio, record labels, listen to me.
Artists, listen to me.
Just like movies, right?
We need an artist with a rating.
F or N-F.
Fiction or non-fiction?
I'm going to tell you why.
But we see Denzel and training day hit the swing.
switches, we know that he's acting.
They told him how to do that. He's not a lowrider, right?
We know that, right?
So we ain't going to be like, DeZil, what's up with you?
Right?
We know that's a movie.
If you are a guy that's been on the internet, watched a lot of movies, maybe have some
crazy uncles and shit, going around.
You've never been to jail, but you could talk to talk, walk to walk, getting tattoos
a day, ain't no thug shit.
Everybody does it.
Then say, listen, I'm a fictional rapper.
That way when stuff like this comes out, they can't say, well, you rap and you said,
at this, so you was a gangster.
You was a street dude, but what the labels have done,
how's the street cred? Not now,
but back then, what's your street grad? This is his hood
behind him? All that went
towards building the artists.
Right? Because I'm gonna be real.
I know the homies be with T. Grizzly,
but I've never heard T. Grizzly's blood
or cuss. I don't, me personally,
he's a cool dude. I don't look at him like
a gangster dude. I know he can be
slick and crafty in his own way, but
who, you know, who can't.
He from Detroit. But I don't know.
I've never heard T. Grizzly as a gangbanger.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't.
Oh.
The AI says T. Grizzly is not a blood or a crib.
He is associated with a gangster disciple street gang.
He has been mentioned.
He has mentioned being a member of the GDs in his music and his gang affiliation is a reoccurring theme in his work.
I did not know that.
See, I don't.
That's what I'm saying.
So is he just an associate?
He's also done entire mixtapes with Lil Durk.
So apparently.
I mean, bro, and his, in first day out, he's.
saying snitch him, kill them if they snitching and kill me if I'm snitching.
Right?
But again, this is a situation where like right now T. Grizzie is like 80% gamer right now.
Well, he's a part of a gang called Rtm.
Well, I don't know.
I'm saying gamer.
Right.
Well, now.
He's still put on music.
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's not, it ain't, I think his priority is his gaming.
I think he's doing that every day.
Yeah.
He's definitely making a lot of money off that.
Make a lot of money off that.
So, you know, I'm in a bad spot because it's like, I know T. Grizzie,
every time we see each other, what's up, what's up is love.
You know, I knew it was, rest in peace.
I attended to funeral, right?
Sada baby, very close to him, but I also know baby shooter.
You know what I'm saying?
So I know baby shooter.
So it was like, he'd been telling me for like a while.
And I've been like, bro, unless you got something, I can't what you want me to do.
I mean, I am sympathetic to T. Grizzly if he had his home robbed and he was upset about it.
Obviously, he didn't opt in to be involved in that sort of thing.
But, yeah, I mean, I feel like that shit.
Once we start talking about telling the cops, the Instagram account of the person who robbed your house and supplying them with you, you volunteering who it is out of a police line out.
bro, at that point.
He's got to have some really good excuses
because if he says that paperwork is bullshit,
okay, maybe that.
But like, if he's going to accept that those are things
that he actually did, yeah, I don't know.
No, baby shooting in court right now, right?
Okay.
I didn't have been on this, you know,
the person that mans his phone ass, right?
Okay.
And because he said he was going to have it sent to me
and it came to me last night unexpectedly.
And, but this morning,
I woke up and I hit his significant other.
And I asked, listen, that's this morning.
That's his direct line from their first yo.
You say yo, whoever has his phone says, good morning.
He said he was going to have someone send something.
He's at court.
He said, okay, is that real what he sent?
So I have to wait to talk to him is what they said.
Then you said, this is the paperwork I got out.
This is what I got going on about T. Grizzly.
Did Shooter catch this ad charge?
Yes.
That's Grizz's paperwork.
And when he calls me, I'll call you to clarify everything.
Okay, cool.
Oh, so, you know, it's what it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Look, man, the exposers is real.
It's a movement.
Some of these people I know personally, this happened to be a situation.
And I'm going to be real.
A lot of dudes were scared to touch it.
because I really didn't want to be the one to let it go.
Even this morning, I'm not seeing people jumping out the window to comment on this.
I can't find the clip in which shooter talked about this T. Grizzly thing because I remember
it being kind of awkward, like when we did the interview because it was so obvious that he
knew a lot that he was not saying.
Are you talking about the recording that came out?
Well, he was on the phone with a couple people.
and he said some things he shouldn't have said.
I remember.
I can't remember exactly and I can't find any of the details in my email or anything right now.
But I mean, but, okay, I looked at Instagram and Twitter this morning for like an hour while I was eating and whatnot.
I did not see one person post about this besides you and Christopher Lovejoy.
I'm not going to lie.
Based on what you just showed me, seems a lot more damning than a lot of other cases that we've given a lot of oxygen to.
Like, I mean, the young thug thing.
okay, very noteworthy.
Yeah.
But not, it ain't like that.
No.
We ain't see that.
Well, we kind of ate, but...
Not quite.
Yeah, a little different.
But again, once again,
shooters say he got a new ad charge.
So we're going to see.
Wow.
Shooter going to go to the box with it.
He's going to trial.
So when he go to trial,
dude got to get up there and dance.
Oh, so you're saying that if...
But T. Grizzly doesn't give a shit if he goes to jail, right?
So why would T.
grizzly get up and take the stand. He's not going to do that.
This is what's going to happen.
They're going to subpoena him.
Okay.
Right? If he don't show, it works
the shooter's behalf. Right.
Right now, the case he got now
has been two hung juries
because the dude hasn't shown.
They don't show up.
They drop it. But they keep
refiling, they can do it three times.
If he does show,
either he's going to pull the woody,
I don't recall.
Or he going...
I don't know if T. Grizz has got the acting chops to do a Woody.
He's going to do something, but...
Because, listen, I don't mind you calling the police to make your police report to show your insurance company.
I called the police.
They came out and investigated.
The door was kicked in.
The window, you're supposed to do that.
Giving up the video, you're not obligated to do that.
But, okay, that's what you did, what you did, right?
but when you start picking people out and circling number fours and and and and giving up
the IG it didn't get a little crazy yeah we got to ask like you know we got to ask
sada baby how he feels about this one saw the baby don't know nothing he don't he don't know
what's going on but he's had some ups and downs with t grizzly to say the least but also like
keep in mind that t grizzly is now basically being accused of
of having his own aunt murdered,
which is not a formal charge,
but there's people making YouTube videos,
making a pretty strong case about that.
And then he's also being accused of being a snitch.
Worst of both worlds is that you get accused of some crazy,
violent murder for hire,
and then you also get accused of snitching from a completely unrelated thing.
The odd murder stuff,
the most favorable thing with that is they claim she was pregnant,
and the autopsy showed she wasn't pregnant.
Right?
They claimed that she was pregnant by T. Grizzly, allegedly,
and this is why he did that, right?
But the art type of the show she wasn't pregnant.
Now, wherever this little, the shooter allegedly dude from Chicago or whatever,
he beat the case, hung, jury, whatever it was, right?
I think that might have refiled on him, right?
I think the whole situation is because T. Grizzly was there,
and he claimed he was in the house
and the aunt's house claimed that
he never came in the house.
It's some inconsistencies.
So if you're not in the house
and you're standing on the porch
and the people are running up to get you,
T. Grizzly, a big dude.
Well, he was in the car with her.
He pulls up to the house.
He runs into the house.
And then while he's in the house,
these dudes with guns walk up on the car
and basically kill his aunt.
But they opened the door.
Yeah.
They didn't do a drive-by.
So the idea that they were there,
See, I'm coming to, we're coming to get at him.
We open the door and it's Lina.
We just ain't at him.
Right.
Right.
We ain't getting off 12 shots, right?
Unless we're supposed to.
Now, the aunt said he wasn't in the house.
And the paperwork doing the trial.
So that puts you on the porch.
So if the dude's running up with guns and the porch is there and the car is here,
they're going to see you.
There's no shots fired.
at the house. So that was the inconsistency
right there. As far as, you know,
the dude that's supposed to be the shooter
who beat it, he never
mentioned T-Grisley name, so
as far as the different
whack 100 accusations of
telling that we've dealt with over the year from this podcast.
I can't put that one on it. But I'm just saying,
this seems pretty good.
Seems like well substantiated. But I think
you have a little bit of a boy who cried wolf problem.
Which one? You've accused so many other people
of snitching that didn't really pan out.
I don't know, like the max.
B thing.
We got Max B.
Big baby.
We got his work.
So you want to put a better on Max B?
I'm sure.
I'm sure you got a lot of work.
But I'm just saying,
the reason why people are not immediately paying attention to this is because I feel like
they've kind of tuned you out.
That's cap.
First of all,
you can't put nobody on the table that we didn't call the rat that we didn't produce
work on.
Max B, we produced his work 18 months ago.
Straight up told.
I don't know what you're talking about.
he went and voluntarily met with the police.
Right?
He knew the whole play because the girl called him with the play.
He told the police the girl works at this strip club and lives in these projects.
Regardless of the truth of the situation, I feel like if academics hops on stream this afternoon, PSA academics, we're going to need you to report on this.
And he says, oh, it's over for T. Grizzly.
He told his whole career is over.
Then I feel like people are going to act like his career is actually over.
I didn't really go into it.
I didn't really want to.
I sent it to everybody.
I know the dude.
Sada baby got it.
I sent it to him too.
I sent it to everybody.
I called Sada baby personally.
I called the homies that be with T. Grisian told him.
Heads up, bro.
They're going to defend the exposing.
Right?
I ain't really got the malice.
Now, if I had the malice, I'll be up there beat my chest.
It could be real loud.
But it's not because I'm not tripping.
But shooter can Lee say, well,
Uncle did what I asked him to do
Because if I was sitting in that county jail
And I had somebody outside
Who I was cool with
I did a few things for
And I needed this to get out for whatever reason
I would expect him to do so
And I'm full throttle at it?
Nah
But did I at least put it out there?
I put it out there
Now if T. Grizzie wanted to deny it
Cool
Nephew, he in court today
He knows he got to have a conversation with me today
soon as he come out
he sent it he told me he was going to send it
months ago he said so as my attorney
get it bro they're telling me the charge is coming
are we entering into a new
world in which
in hip hop in the streets
you're kind of allowed
to tell on your ops
or someone who does something that you were
unwilling participant in
bro because it feels like
there's like two different
like telling on your homie is treated
a lot differently than telling on somebody who
attempted to do something to you. Telling it is telling.
But it feels like the world
is treating it a little different. In today's world
and I'm glad you said you said
Max B we're going to run a marathon on him. You did that.
Apologies. No.
The marathon continues.
Get the Max B.
Okay, but think about 6'9. 6.9, granted
there was many years ago, but that was like the most
divisive or decisive
That was a racist attack. But what I'm saying
is it's like he gets accused of
turning on his own gang. Boom,
it's over. It was bad for him for years
and years. On the other hand,
You're looking at this situation.
Oh, he told on the guy who broke into his house.
I don't know if people are going to be as quick to go hard on it.
See, this is the thing.
Stop talking street shit if you ain't going to keep it in the streets.
Shooter's a little street nigger.
You get what I'm saying?
You know, you're talking about what you're talking about.
And if shooter didn't got at you, listen, if a dude called me and say,
hey, homie, I'm the one hit your house.
Right.
Get at me.
I know we're in the streets with it.
Yeah.
you get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Now, you know, this happened like 2022.
Yeah, yeah.
He just gave this report 2024.
Yeah.
I mean, Shooter damn near told me the whole story on the podcast.
I'm pretty sure we edited it.
Yeah, I don't know.
If he did do that, he had his damn mind.
He said too much, but I think he got edited out.
Yeah, I don't know what he said.
I didn't, you know, I wasn't too familiar about it.
I got a...
The weird thing is the strange spelling of his name where it's like I have to search...
I got a...
I did get some audio sent to me of him target to some people.
I don't know if it was, it might have been pertaining to that situation.
I don't know, but nevertheless, yeah, the streets is a myth, man.
But I don't appreciate you lying.
You was a liar, man.
What I said.
You got to tell me who we said was a rat winning produce work on.
It's a vibe thing.
No vibe.
You might feel like you have the information to the extent that you're supposed to have it,
but I feel like the vibe is that you throw it around a little bit too loosely.
Bro, if you's a rat and we got your work, it's going to be loosely.
What the f-we're not type.
This is what it is.
Boom, more is what it is right there.
What you want to do?
I'm telling you the vibe on the streets.
Jack Gotti.
When them people send me that audio clip, right?
That's the audio clip.
Now, if you hard of hearing, that's on you.
You didn't keep it real about Aaron the Plummer.
Who didn't?
You didn't.
You knew he told.
And you talked about it.
And then you took it back because you realized that he was cool with somebody that you were cool with.
No.
A real exposure would never.
No, that had nothing to do with it.
The problem was one of the dudes who was involved in that called me.
He wanted to come out here.
But I'm listening to his story.
and he
he couldn't directly tell me
that dude got out on him.
He just was telling me
they was there.
You knew that I was beefing with him
and you still made Vlad remove it from that interview.
Yeah, but what the...
I needed that at that moment.
I needed him to be a snitch.
You did ride brick, baby.
He's a snitch anyway.
But you did ride brick, baby.
You ain't got to work.
I ain't seen anything on brink.
You ain't got to work.
I don't got the work.
Oh, no, we see it all on Brick Baby.
Y'all just got amnesia.
Well, let me have some shit with 18 charges,
and I don't go to court for two and a half years,
and when I go into customers,
do you understand that Brick Baby was traveling around with you?
You understand what I'm saying?
Let a motherfucker get popped by the feds.
You can't move nowhere.
Ain't no moving.
The only people they let move is the ones that's working.
The only time we went anywhere was we went to Atlanta.
One time.
We watched him go to Dallas.
We watched him go to Florida.
See, I'm watching everywhere he's moving.
You get what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day, you can't tell me in 2022, you got a parking lot shooting.
And then 20, 23 of June, you get caught with all that because of wiretap.
It clearly states in an indictment.
They ran in there because you was threatening to unalive the chick in the baby, whatever, right?
So they ran in there.
But you don't have no court dates.
You tell me somebody, bro, who gets.
getting caught with all this shit with no goddamn court dates.
And when you get caught, you let people know you hot.
I'm hot.
The only reason why you don't let people know you hot?
Because you're working.
You're out here trying to turn in and line up plays with them people.
So when they decide to come get you, you didn't give them enough where they're going to have some leniency on you.
But you can't tell me nobody who getting caught with three-fold guns, AK-47s, ammunition, freeway shootings on the goddamn video, and you don't got a court date for two years.
I'm sorry, bro.
He's innocent.
Anyway, next topic.
Okay, you got it?
Okay, what happened?
Do you know Kevin McCall?
What about him?
He's crying about, you know, like,
nigga you disrespected.
We got a new main character unlocked.
I guess he used to write songs for Chris Brown back in the day.
Yeah, they've been calling me, his manager been calling me.
Oh, but.
You want to come on here?
My thing, that's cool, but my thing about it is this.
you
disrespected
you called Chris Brown gay
Did he?
I believe you disrespected his child
This is back in the day
Not a couple years ago
You disrespected his child
This is how they fell out
Yeah so why would this dude
Have any amnesty
Or feel sorry for you about anything
Yeah
Now when he signed you
And gave you a check initially
Is when he was showing you
I'm gonna be a brother to you
Let's be friends
let's build.
When you chose to disrespect this man,
call him gay,
disrespect his child.
At that point, bro,
it's all its own.
Yeah, I mean,
that would be like something like...
You want to see that dude under a bridge
with a leaky goddamn,
like, you know...
I mean, it would be like somebody who worked for no jumper in 2015 or 2016,
and they went on a podcast or were crying their eyes out,
I was saying,
I helped out on build this business.
and now it's made this amount of money.
He ain't helped Chris Brown build shit.
Well, if he wrote songs, I mean, that's good, right.
Eric Beliger didn't want to get a bunch of songs.
You got paid for what you wrote.
Probably a million people have helped Chris Brown out songs.
He paid you for what he wrote.
I believe he signed dude.
What I'm saying is if a dude, you was doing business with the dude, he's your editor.
And you look up and he said, dish your wife, dish your daughter.
Which I don't know about that.
T-Rail.
Oh, now you're talking about him?
Will you ever, if T-Rail was going broke under a freeway right now,
after what he said about your kid, would you give a damn?
What I'm going to do, I'm going to go to Home Depot,
I'm going to get a bucket of paint, and I'm going to drive by.
There it go.
So why should Chris Brown care?
Yeah, Kim.
And especially, this is my thing about the Kevin dude, too,
is that it's like, you're crying and melting down on a podcast.
Is there anything else that I need to.
prove to me that you are not of sound of mind and that having you around as part of my operation
is not a great idea.
And then he turns around and disrespects legends.
He said Mary J. Blige can't seem.
Another, like, bro, like at some point, when are you going to learn the politics of this
business?
You're a writer.
Now you're throwing shots at people.
Okay, let's say Mary's in retirement, other people retirement.
But what about the labels that still tied to them, tied to their country?
catalog tied.
I mean, who gives a fuck?
He just said that they can't sing.
I mean, that's just an opinion, right?
You can't.
You're talking crazy.
Like, bro, you're in the gutter.
You don't want to ruin no possible relationship.
I agree, but also, like, there is absolutely no chance that this is going to damage Mary J.
Blatch's career.
It ain't about damaging.
But what if you want to go over here and do a deal with Sony publishing?
But this dude is real close to Mary.
I mean, yeah, that's possible.
Yeah, definitely like making enemies in the game when you are on the ground floor is not a great
idea but I mean this is the whole thing is like bro has had 10 years to figure some shit out
I don't know bro how the f you still just like wallowing in your own sadness like you know you should
have been driving Uber and working at Amazon or doing anything you can to not your shit together
like what and I understand life is hard life those you curveballs you might have debt you might
have shit that's my child support all kinds of shit that makes life hard but I feel like 10 years
is a pretty strong runaway.
I think you should do.
He should have got with one of these little young R&B dudes,
stayed behind the scenes,
did the right,
got a hitter tool in there,
then came out.
On another note,
who these weenie dudes
and these weird-ass people
you got on the news?
I have a whole variety of weenies.
You got some chick back there.
She looked like the chimpanzee
from Planet of the Apes, right?
Pye face, look at chick.
I heard about you being upset with this young lady.
She's talking about I'm dry snishing
because I'm talking about the parking lot shooting.
Does this dumb imbecile to understand
that all lasts in the federal record indictment?
About who, Brick?
Yeah, she don't get that?
Everything I'm saying is an indictment.
And then you got this other little dude,
the Wigger.
The white kid.
I was just saying we got to bring Wigger back.
No.
It's a good word.
Well, yeah, the Wigger.
I mean, we all know what it means.
Whatever this little black dude is.
Well, he's white.
Whatever the f-he is.
Well, what he's, he's trans.
He looked black to me, but he acting like here a white boy.
We're still talking about the same white kid in New York drill official.
No, I'm talking about this dude that they're supposed to one that the merit, whatever you did up here, this little black dude.
Oh, Ricky.
Yeah, Ricky.
Formerly known as Sliphone.
Dickie Mouth.
Dickie Mouth, Ricky.
So I guess he won't issue with me talking about I got emotional and I spent narrative.
then I don't spin narratives.
I put the facts on the table.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, some real shit.
Lush, I had a conversation with him.
I said, bro, it ain't pointed out of you.
I want you to call britt.
I just think whoever you are in front of, you become them.
You fake.
Lush.
Be you.
Yeah, I hate that.
That's the Tupac shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Lusher was just so happy that you compared him to Tupac
that he seemed like he kind of skipped past the fact that you're criticizing him.
And then you went here with the peanut butter, man.
The homies is on his bumper,
K-5 and all them.
then stamped it.
That happened to him in the county jail.
Them real homies was pushing real lines in that county jail.
That's a fact.
And when y'all talking about the flaco day,
and Lush says, yeah, Wack doesn't like me because of this with Brick.
And I like the way y'all did it.
This dude says he sticks that giraffe neck out and says,
but why doesn't he like Tupac?
Y'all totally ignored the dude.
But whenever I ever said Tupac in my top five,
dead or lie.
I never said I didn't like Tupac.
I just made me address a few things
Tupac is done.
If Tupac was a rapper right now,
we would all call him a fake.
Like a...
Yeah, not even close.
Fake is hell.
And I don't care for what you say.
Tupac was in the penituary
for a rape case.
We ain't respecting none of that.
I don't give them what you're talking about.
Right?
When you die, he died of rapists.
It's not the most valid.
Okay, you got a daughter like I got one.
Slow down.
Because if your daughter came home and told you, Daddy,
They took advantage of me.
You watch the video or her saying it?
You ain't, no, I'm saying.
You watched the Vlad interview with her?
I watched all that, but I understand.
See, what happened was this.
The woman generally liked Pock, right?
We know that.
I'm just saying she's a Looney Tune.
Listen, no, no, listen.
I'm going to tell you exactly what happened,
because I didn't got on my homies
for even attempting back of the day doing this type of shit.
You know, Roder was infamous for this shit.
She really came over there for Pock.
She was with Pock.
Pock did what he did and left.
Now, let me ask you something.
If you got a chick in your room, right?
And two of your homeboys is in the living room watching TV.
When you walk out that door, they're not going to take it upon themselves to go in there.
But if you say, hey, bro, shit, she in the room, get to it.
That's not good.
Right?
She said when she walked in the hotel, she saw the dudes with a pistol on the table already.
Before she made it to the bedroom with Pott.
Right?
So now she willingly went in there with Pop.
She ain't fighting that.
But when Park left and you tell them two in that living room,
hey, bro, y'all go do your thing?
And they went in there and she's saying they took that against her will.
That's on you.
The one that got me, like, I remember when Grito went viral for saying Tupac,
or I don't want to talk about Tupac's not talking about Tupac.
It was because he was actually being interviewed.
and they keep asking him about Tupac.
And Grito says,
man, I don't give a fuck about Tupac.
I got a metal leg,
which is what he's saying right there is like,
I've been shot.
I'm really from the hood.
I really put in pain and work in this shit.
You're comparing me to a actor.
That's the fact.
Yeah.
Now, listen.
I appreciated it.
Was Tupac?
Was Tupac a great rapper?
Oh,
yes, he was.
What I didn't like about Tupac is whatever he win.
he turned into that.
It's a dude down here.
I gave him the name Friscoe Chuck.
He's from Fillmore, right from the Bay.
He's been down here 15 plus years.
He's been around the bloods, majority bloods and crips.
But you don't hear him say cause of blood or acting like or picking up our mannerism.
He's still a Philmo guy.
Right?
Everywhere Tupac went, he turned into that and he brought it as,
down here to a real jungle and didn't last a year.
11 months.
Do you think if Tupac had not died and soon after there was a death row, RICO, you
think you would have told?
Definitely.
Yeah, for sure, right?
Definitely.
You think he's going to sit in prison for 10 years?
I don't think so.
He wasn't going to do that.
Listen, people want to say what they want to say.
It's protective custody orders that's out there about what was going on with dude.
And that's what it is.
So it ain't that I don't like.
I, nigga, I love Pock music.
Pock, Cube, Scarface, L, L, Cats like that,
always going to be in my top five, dead or a lie.
That's a fact.
That's what I grew up on.
Oh, yeah.
And when I listen to those classic Tupac albums,
I am not thinking about the fact that his street spread is dubious.
But if that's why I understand what the blind man was saying,
out of knowing, like, why does he like Tupac?
I'm like, man.
I love Pock music.
it.
Yeah.
Ice Cube would tell you he started this gangster shit.
But if you asked me,
is Ice Cube the most gangsters rapper you know?
I'm going to say no,
because he didn't mean like as far as his actions in the streets.
He's talking about that style or rap or what that is.
And we salute him for that because he pretty much opened up doors
to show other cats that's really living at,
what you can do to generate some income.
For sure.
I want to touch on this topic.
We didn't really get a chance to talk.
about it on any of the other shows, but
NLMB GFav, so
no limit Muskegan Boys, which is like a very, very famous
hood in Chicago, but this guy GFab
arrested for allegedly murdering
J. Dogg in Chicago police reportedly
identified him in surveillance footage by his limp
So do we know who these dudes was before this?
Okay, so yes, but for a pretty brief period of time.
So basically this dude J-Dog
had been going off on G-Herbo, right?
They're all from
NLMB. And so J. Dogg had been
disrespected in G Herbo and basically saying
you can't come back to your hood, all this type of shit.
A few different no limit members have kind of taken issue with G Herbo over the years,
most notably, uh, no limit Cairo and whatnot.
But so there's another, no Cairo.
Another very reputable no limit member by the name of Big Op, who,
if you want to believe the streets has a very, uh, checkered past of putting in work.
Okay.
So this guy big op
Basically gets into a fight with J-Dog
Like they meet up or they're on the block whatever
And they fight
The fight is not going big ops way
So G-Fab
Who I believe is
Who I believe is G-Herbo's cousin or some shit
He pulls out two pistols at the same time
And lays down J-Dog
Who is this on video
Oh that's what on video
So at the very least, I don't know if there's a video,
but at the very least there's a screenshot going around
of him holding two guns at the same time blowing dude down.
And, you know,
they only got him with the limp.
Part of how they were able to get him was the fact that limp,
although, like, looking at him here and then looking at him right here,
I mean, this is like a pretty big muscular guy.
You know, this is kind of like hard to mistake the fact that...
He got enough money.
He got action.
He got action of getting like a plea come...
Because the convicted dude on a limp on the back,
They're going to want to, you know, if I did that and I know they have the limp,
and they came at me with like 8 to 12, I'm jumping on that.
I mean, that's why they were able to arrest him.
I assume now that they have access to his phone and everything else,
the GPS data, I'm sure they're going to be able to put the situation together
better than they have so far.
But either way.
So this is all based upon J-Dog saying G-Hirbo can't come back to his hood.
Yeah, I mean, they're-Hurbo.
Check this out.
Check this out.
G-Hirbo, he always been all right.
G-Hirbo, don't go back to the hood for what?
Going somewhere, buy you some property, you know,
look at what a little boozy then did,
and go back when you need to go back,
how you got to go back.
But these dudes be telling these people,
come back to the hood.
It's a bait, it's a trap.
Have the time they want to get into a bang out with you.
Call the police.
It's a lose-lose situation.
I mean, a lot of times it takes a while for people to get arrested
after this kind of thing.
In this case, it took the feds three weeks to make an arrest.
Oh.
And so that seems pretty decisive as well.
Either way, a lot of concern because people are looking at this and saying like,
okay, so this guy dis G. Herbo and then G. Herbo's like cousin or brother or something.
Got done to do with G. Herbo, bro.
Ends up blowing him down right afterwards.
Listen, we got to kill that.
There's Rikos in the air.
People are worried about where this could go.
G. Herbo is where he at.
Whatever G. Herbo, this dude got against his other dude, that's their personal business.
Just because they related up on the same neighborhood and know each other don't mean that that's
G. Herbo driven.
So knowing absolutely nothing about the situation and having found out about it three minutes ago,
you're absolutely certain that you know exactly how it went down.
What I know is G. Herbo ain't had nothing to do with it.
Listen, I would hope that that's the case as well.
That's what I know.
I would assume that everybody involved with this is going to have every single text message and phone call that they've made over the last couple of years scoured by the FBI.
So if there is criminal activity afoot, I feel like it's probably going to be coming down the pipeline pretty soon.
And we ain't got no paperwork or no audio video.
You got to stop.
This is why people will be learious sitting down with you.
Because you be driving these narratives, bro, on these people.
G Herbo name ain't even mentioning this shit
I didn't do anything besides read an Instagram post
Yeah but G Herbo wasn't there
So why is it even
Why are you even bringing up that
G Herbo sending to do that that's crazy
So if you dissed or L.A
Or if an L.A. rapper dissed you
And then your good friend killed him
A couple weeks later you don't think that there would be reason
for you know worry that maybe this could cause some issues for you
Right, bro, listen.
Seems like common sense.
Why are you dick riding herbos?
No, this is a black man who minded his business doing whatever he's doing.
He ain't been there.
It's obvious.
They telling him he can't come back.
Now, if dude and this dude got a personal issue, you can have an issue with somebody.
I can have an issue with a person, too, for a total different reason.
Right?
And what people would do sometime is use that time frame to do something because they know they're going to put the blame on you.
In this situation, maybe G Herbo is related to the dude.
But it's nothing there to say he went over there and got into it with dude behind.
Didn't they stage the fight?
They set the fight up, right?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the fight basically like stemmed from the disrespectful shit about Herbo that he had been saying online,
which it's pretty easy to like follow how all of these things are connected.
The question is if the feds are going to be able to put together, a case connecting everything together.
I think if this dude is related.
I think if this dude is related to G Herbo, he related to G Herbo.
It looks like he's older than G Herbo.
Maybe he took it upon himself to say, hey, that's that fool being speaking on my little relative and address it, right?
Well, I think it's because he had the fight with Big Op, where he allegedly whooped him.
Well, at the end of the day, what that got to do with G. Herbo?
Well, Big Op had been speaking out for G. Herbo basically saying, ain't nobody banning my homie from the block.
Okay.
So I'm just saying all these things are clearly connected.
the question is, are the feds going to be able to connect it?
Listen, it's, listen, bro.
In a way that incriminates G Herbo.
Y'all better pay attention to what's going on, bro.
You damned if you do, damned if you don't, right?
Because this narrative, if you're driving, it's crazy.
I don't think the narrative that I'm putting out there is probably the least crazy narrative in the history of this podcast.
The narrative I'm putting out there is a series of events that are blatantly connected.
No, they're not.
What is the, what is not connected?
Hey, bro, it should.
going to my neighbor every day. Tell me, what might not be
connected? I don't get to fuck about your neighbor.
We're talking about this neighborhood. It's the same shit.
What is going on in this that you don't? What did I put
out there that's not connected? G. Herbo's name
is not there anywhere. He wasn't
at the scene. He wasn't at the fight.
Dude didn't take off on G. Herbo.
G. Herbo didn't jump in as you being speed off. Then the cousin
pulled up, jumped out and started
gunning. We don't even know G. G. Herbal
was in Illinois. Probably not.
Yeah. Okay.
Then. So how would you feel? You just
corrected a bunch of things that I absolutely
never said.
So thank you for wasting a bunch of fucking breath.
What we're saying is, all I
never once did I, I didn't
say G Herbo was there,
I didn't say that he was involved.
And a Rico. Well, no, actually,
I think he did it because of Big Up. You know what Rico
means? That means they charge of the
motherfucker who didn't necessarily do it, hands on
itself, but had it done. What if they
find text messages that suggest that in
any way, G. Herbo
prompted anyone involved in this? Not going to happen.
But G. Herbal's been a father, and he's been building itself and conducting other business.
He's not, he don't care about them dudes saying he can't come somewhere that he worked so hard to get away from.
Who gives a damn about it?
You can't go to New Hampshire.
He does give a damn because he spoke out about it as well.
If there were white boys that we saw on Twitter, right, keep screaming, you can't go to New Hampshire.
Do you care?
What white boys?
Come on, bro.
We ain't going to talk about it because they didn't see it.
The ones that said you can't come back.
Do you care?
Nobody's ever said that.
Do you care about that?
Nobody's ever said that.
Do you care about that?
Nobody's ever said that.
What?
Who has ever said I can't?
And I love that you drive this conversation in a totally absurdist direction.
Nobody has ever said that.
Because we're going to get off G Herbal.
Listen, if there's tough dudes in New Hampshire, I would love to know about it.
I'm going to be besties with them, but I ain't never seen it.
I bet you I can find somebody to do that will whoop your ass.
Yeah.
Spoiler alert, they're biker dudes, and they're going to whip your ass in the parking lot, just like those other white boys.
I never got my ass with the parking lot.
That went the other way.
I've seen the whole footage.
yeah no you didn't oh yeah
I know for a fact you didn't ground and pound
bah bah didn't happen
didn't happen you were looking like hamburger helper
dude got caught with a frank left
lucky his little buddies was coming
okay um so we discussed that
or we tried to discuss that even though
whack was playing interference but
uh and then the other
uh gherbo related thing is the fact
that he has uh taken up
issue
with Vlad
I've seen
Vlad had this whole clip
where he's talking about
basically he's disappointed
that G. Herba doesn't do interviews
with him anymore
and then G. Herbo wrote this whole
spiel going in on.
You know Adam, you know
if you get one out of ten
who you help build
from the beginning
that just genuinely keeps real with you
that's a whole lot.
You know, Vlad knows that too.
You know what I'm saying?
People send to catch amnesia
or maybe
don't understand
what that move really did
for them. Because
you have the music playing on the radio
but Vlad's a big deal.
No jumper was a big deal. We're talking
about especially back then to get that
visual. What visual?
Of him interviewing
on Vlad.
Who? G. Herbo.
Right? Vlad's saying he helped
G. Herbo out in the beginning and he
didn't say he made his career, but the
interview he did with him, absolutely, what
the platform being what it is
help push his career,
which probably made them attractive for other
people. It's conversation.
So I guess
I don't know if G. Herbal,
I guess Vlad might have reached out for an interview.
When you have an artist,
like with Blueface, for example,
do you tell them
that they should mostly,
like if you were controlling them,
would you mostly say,
hey, you should stay on good terms
with the people in the media
that you have good relationships with?
I tell them stay on good terms.
turns with everybody.
Yeah.
But I tell all my artists the same thing the minute I sign them.
Who you are today is not going to be who you are when the fame comes.
You're going to change.
They all tell me, no, I'm not.
And all of them changing their own little way.
Right.
But I don't think I'm going to be real.
I don't think G. Herbo really understood what Vlad's platform represented.
Well, that is kind of what he said is that basically, even though Vlad was the one
calling him that he was kind of just doing whatever his team told him to do and also you got to
mind a lot of those uh herbiv interviews are like literally 10 years old and 10 years ago the media space
was different it was kind of like you should probably just do every interview or every
piece of media that you can do now there's so much media that realistically somebody like her about
could pick and choose and the thing is like one of the last complaints is that herbo will go on podcast
they get like 600 views the thing is that was like a podcast was like a podcast was
600 views can still be chopped up and clipped.
And a clip from that podcast can still make its way to the academics account,
a World Star, or whatever.
It's like if you choose to say something exhilarating on any platform,
it's going far.
It doesn't matter if you say it on a big platform like Vlad.
You can say it really wherever.
So something like G Herbo does have the option of picking and choosing what media he
wants to do now in a way that 10 years ago he didn't realize.
But in Blas' defense,
10 years ago,
Vlad was still a big deal.
Right, but he was kind of like one of the only
shows in town, realistically.
Because like at that time, yeah, you have breakfast
club, but it's tough to get on breakfast club.
We looked at, we didn't look at breakfast club as a podcast.
And they weren't going to, like random real rappers.
We looked at breakfast club like radio.
Yeah.
Like going to talk to Big Boy.
That's how we looked at it.
Because it's hot 97.
We didn't look at it back then as a podcast.
Yeah.
Your ass going to Breakfast Club, you're on Hot 97.
You got a chance your song.
going to be in rotation.
You know what I'm saying?
It's things like that.
But I get it, but Vlad should know it's like you get one out of 10.
That's going to keep it real with you.
That's a lot.
Yeah, I mean, like strategically, I do think he's giving Herbo like good career advice.
But the reality is that the game has just changed and rappers get to pick and choose
who they want to fuck with.
And a lot of them, you know, they just, I mean, Vlad has an image.
And that image is this is a.
a mixy platform that is going to basically talk to you about all kinds of shit,
including stuff that you realistically might not want to talk about.
Whereas if you go on Shannon Sharp,
they're not going to ask you about some street shit, you know?
He's going to talk to you about your career.
You go on Gilling and Wallo,
they're going to do some motivational speech and talk about how going to jail is bad
or whatever their kind of themes are.
But like, you know, if you go on Vlad, it's probably going to say,
hey, in 2014, you were beefing with this rapper.
And then that rapper ended up dead.
Speak to me about that.
You know, like, that's a normal Vlad question.
That's a normal no jumper question.
Yeah.
You know, but a lot of these platforms won't hit you with that.
That's a normal Adam 22 question.
Yeah.
I'm not asking nobody about no bodies.
I mean, my whole thing is like I'm going to ask you about anything I find interesting.
And if you don't like the question, then you, you, A, could tell me that you don't want to include it.
That's fine.
Or, you know, you could just say like, no, I'm got nothing to say about that.
Look at them blue eyes twinkling.
There go.
I mean, it's about content.
It's about what the B1.
And the whole thing about two-down...
But you don't give a f*** if he incriminate himself.
Keep it real.
Okay, but if he incriminates himself, that's his own fault.
No, but keep it real.
But if you would have never asked the question.
No, I mean...
Okay.
I'm glad this is a made-up example because I don't know of any bodies that have been associated with him.
Let me let me...
So there are questions that you know he's probably not going to answer this.
But if he does answer this, this could screw him up.
Nah.
Huh?
If he answers it and tells me a bunch of illegal behavior that he's involved,
then sure, yeah, that could talk about it.
Okay, that's what I'm saying.
But that's my thing is my-
So why ask that question?
Because my duty is to the fans.
Even if it gives him 10 years.
No, I assume that the person I'm interviewing is not retarded enough to incriminate themselves,
but also my duty is to the fans.
But you know, we get a few of them that's a little slow.
The fans?
No.
The rappers.
The people we interview.
Because we have, I will be real.
And your defense, sometimes you ask a shallow question
and they just keep going on it.
And once they keep going, you chime in and say,
so you're saying that you and they keep going,
that's not over you.
I haven't personally had that opinion or that experience.
No.
Not really.
They just shut it down or they answer it.
I mean, listen.
Who's the one artist that you ask something that,
you felt later on when you looked at the clip
probably shouldn't have said anything that you asked
I don't know it's hard to think of an example
the ones I had dealings with
they begin to talk and I just questioned about what they was talking about
the worst one I had was loose cannon
well he comes to mind for sure but I mean just in general
it's like but you didn't ask nothing I don't think
I don't think well I don't even know of anything illegal
that he's been involved in to ask about really
The shit was in the paperwork.
But you're talking about a dude who puts out videos of him beating the shit out of people in public all the time.
I was like promotional.
No, we talk about prior today.
You're right.
And there was something prior to that nobody knew nothing about.
I didn't know nothing until Gigi pointed them out.
But again, I will say if you start talking about something at this table, I'm going to talk about it with you.
If you say, woo-de-woo-woo-do-woo.
I'm going to say, so you're saying this, this, this, because I want some clarity.
on what you're saying because we have to act as if the fans want to get clarity.
If somebody told me that they killed somebody, for sure, I would not release that clip.
You lying like a...
Okay.
Police Johnson.
Please Johnson did the little dance.
He didn't say it.
But the damn ear said it.
Was that you?
Because I seen it.
I think they spared up your voice.
Was that you talking to him when he got to talking about he thought he got a man pregnant?
that he did say that yeah yeah they you hot whatever y'all y'all full of shit so what they did was
he nutted in a man's ass and he was so inexperienced no i think that there was another guy in the prison
who had thought that he was pregnant no they thought that they could get pregnant through their booty hole
which maybe you can i don't do do what he did with the man and the man was stuffing sheets up on
his shirt and told him he was pregnant and flee said he was so inexperienced he thought the dude was
and he went and told the warden that when my baby is born,
I know the baby can't stay here,
but can you put the baby somewhere where I can visit the baby
because my boyfriend is pregnant, right?
But what was crazy, I'm listening to it,
and it's on somebody else's page,
but they spared your voice up.
So it was like he was talking about a girl?
No, it was like you couldn't really tell who was that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because most people would have heard that and went back to no jumper.
Let me go find this.
Okay.
You get what I'm saying?
So I'm gonna get with the team.
Those of y'all playing games, using no jumper content, leave it as is.
Shit.
Because we can go over there and get that.
Use no jumper content on your own risks.
Yeah, stop playing.
People got blamped.
Yeah, that's a fact.
No, but yo, dude is, they need to do a movie on dude.
He's a different type of.
I would call it the bandit.
The market.
Lease and the bandit.
Well, he's the booty warrior, not a booty bandit.
but also like I just feel like the market for movies.
A bandit is like a small time thief.
A warrior is really going out there and building an enterprise.
Well, band is out here.
They're taking it.
Yeah.
Well, he actually said he never raped anyone.
Oh, everybody he did it with was willing.
Although I feel like the line of who's willing when it comes to man-on-man prison sex is kind of a blurry line.
Yo, the do not have teeth in his mouth?
I think he might have been missing teeth
But I don't know
I wasn't in the same room as him
A little different
He was kind of trying to feel me out
Like if I would be a good sister
To feel you out
Yeah, he's kind of feeling me out
I don't use that word too much
But pause
Yeah
Um
No yeah he was
He was a pretty good guy
I should really go to like
Kentucky and hang out with him
Oh you want to hang out with him
Whoa
You want to look him in his eyes
He told me that he had booty
behind the walls that's better than any
pussy that you ever had on the outside.
So you want to hang out with him out? You want to go to the bar?
You want to the bar, the barn.
We go to the bar.
Okay.
I ain't go to the barn.
You go to that barn long enough.
You'll fuck around end up in the barn.
That's a fact.
I'm down for a roll in the hay.
Yeah, I bet you all.
Okay.
Hey, plug talk.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll plug them.
Plug them right up.
Oh, shit.
Adam, I think one day you're going to really cross the line and try some shit.
Yeah, I hope that you're around.
So I can make you...
No, it'll be nowhere around.
It's I can make you that.
I hear, I see this dude for Ness two times back.
He's having a rough year, bro.
So what, he got busted for drug charges?
I guess I've seen him a couple months ago.
He was out of club or something, and him and the chick got poured out,
and they found some weed or something, which is illegal in Texas.
now this is
some more drug charges
he looks how's a kite right there
I blame just Texas in general
man like this is just a state
that you just shouldn't live in if you want to
avoid problems with the law they're just
they're on the rappers in a way
out here they're just not tripping in the same way
especially if you're doing a lot of drugs
yeah no he's definitely looking
at the very least a little tired
he just went it he turned himself in
and they showed him some love on his violation.
They let him go.
Hmm.
This post only got 1,100 likes.
They don't they're off, dude.
I just feel like.
I think Honeycomb Braes.
He's out, right?
Honeycomb Brazy just got out and put out a song, actually,
that I haven't got a chance to listen to yet, but that did happen.
You tried a video to it?
Yeah.
What's it doing?
What's the numbers?
That's a good question.
Let's see.
Honeycomb Brazy.
15 hours ago 159k all he just put it out yeah yeah I mean that's a good start by a couple
ms pretty soon he's actually he's kind of some would say he's like the king of wait look he
dropped another video eight days ago 1.7 million oh I don't know if that was from before but uh yeah
and before that it was a year we was on a year two years think it was about a year crazy very crazy
So they actually found a suspect before it had been reported that the guy who killed Say So P and also shot Soss Waka when they got robbed in Memphis.
It had been reported that the guys who did it had then been killed in Houston.
No one.
One of them.
Okay.
But now we have three dudes.
We have a new suspect.
Kevin K.J. Brown, who is wanted in a downtown Memphis shooting that killed.
or say so P and injured Soswaka.
He was actually arrested in Tennessee,
in Clarksville on Wednesday.
They told him.
And then there was the other suspect, Jaden Dandridge.
He's the one who was found dead in Houston.
So it does look like we're going to get a little bit of a lot.
There was three people, driver, two shooters.
One got killed.
You know, they tracked him.
The cameras tracked them from all the way there to wherever they went.
Yeah.
You know, hey, bro, listen, back in our day, if they would have had this camera work they had back then, we would have all been in jail.
No, it's totally out of control.
I was watching a thing about some mafia dudes where in New York City, they painstakingly got security footage from like every single different business for like miles and miles and miles so they could track this guy's car just so they could figure out who did a shooting.
and it's just like, how could you ever hope to get away with anything?
Can't.
You can't.
Bro, you've seen the gambling ring the rest?
Yeah.
Crazy.
So now I found out.
I don't know if there's some Gilbert Arenas related type situation.
I think it's totally unrelated, but this actually gives me an opportunity to talk about poker in a situation where I never normally get to talk about poker.
The FBI says that the mafia used Portland Trailblazers coached Chauncy Billups and X-ray tables to,
cheap victims out of $7 million in illegal poker games.
So let me tell you this.
All over L.A.
And really in any state in the country where there's money,
there's people running poker games out of their homes.
L.A. has a lot of sort of famous ones that have been going on for years and years and years.
And people have always kind of warned me like pros,
like really good poker players have warned me,
hey, you're going to get invited to games that seem incredibly good in people's houses.
and they've basically told me
don't take the bait
don't do it because it's
so easy for them to cheat
in these situations and they're able
to cheat in such sophisticated ways that you're
realistically probably never going to be able to tell
that you were cheated so
anytime you play outside of a casino
you need to be unbelievable yeah the
x-ray tables
there's a lot of everything they can do though
people okay I'll tell you something
another way that they've got people hard thing
okay there's two two
two main things that I'm aware of, number one, the card shuffler, you can shove a USB in that
that has a computer program on it, and it will sort the deck exactly as you want it.
So like, it'll give you a really, really good hand, and it'll give me a really good hand.
That's a little bit better than yours.
Nobody could blame you for getting it all in with four kings, but when I have four
aces, I'm going to take all your money, right?
Like, you would have to be insane to think that there was any reason not to get all in
when you have four kings, but then I have four aces.
Now, granted, but they could also make it a lot more subtle than that.
They can make it because in that situation, a lot of people are going to be like,
what the fuck that shady?
That hand is so statistically improbable that you're probably cheating me.
But then they got other shit too.
Check this one out.
You put contact lenses in, right?
That's what I heard.
And then all the cards, when I look at those cards with my contact lenses, I can tell exactly
what that card is.
So I'm sitting here playing you in poker and I know every single card that is out on the table.
I mean, what are we talking?
You don't have dying poker games doing that?
No.
So what do they do?
They just throw them out?
I would say that in the sort of like underground world,
maybe there could be some street justice,
but there's no, like, social thing that tells people not to tell.
If you get called.
Yeah.
I've never heard about anybody having anything violent happen to them in the poker world ever.
So what happens?
Like, how did the white people say, hey, cheat?
You know what they do?
You know.
Twitter thread.
Like, you know, you're, you're a, you're a shit back.
Is that what they do?
It's not even like that because that's like angry.
What they do is there literally would be a Twitter thread.
Hey, I, uh, I let Cass Jones borrow half a million dollars to play poker and he lost it and he
scammed me and he's not responding to my messages.
There'll be a Twitter thread.
They'll tell everybody in the poker world, hey, retweet this, respond to this, etc.
And then that person's name basically becomes dog shit in the post.
poker world and a lot of times like other games won't let you play or I don't think you're gonna like if
you cheat you will be banned from playing tournaments not just on the site where you cheated but
other tournaments as well like the poker world comparatively does do a pretty good job of kind
of like annexing people out who are cheaters and everything but yeah if you if you rip somebody off
lots of social pressure for you to pay them back or for you to you know be excluded from things in
the poker world, but nobody's beating you up.
Nobody's shooting you.
Never heard anything like that.
Oh.
I know.
It's kind of different compared to rap.
I'll tell you this.
They shouldn't have told black people that.
They can go get a half of me.
The only thing they're going to get is a tweets and out about them.
Shit.
I know.
No violence.
They ain't called the police.
Nobody getting shot?
Well, hey, you know what I was thinking?
Black community down kind of bad today.
What?
What happened?
I mean, Al Sharpton had a lot of respect in the game, and now it turns out he's a snitch.
Who is?
Al Sharpton.
Al Sharpton's not a snitch.
I messaged you about this earlier, and you told me that's old news.
He's not a snitch.
How's he not a snitch?
Is Al Sharpton, the gangsteads on the streets?
I think it would be fair to say at one point.
He was kind of wrapped up in that.
Well, he became a snitch because they caught him in a drug deal, right?
That's what I read, but I'm not.
Okay, let me ask you something.
Can't use him.
Do you think that if they said Farrakhan was working with the government,
that people would see him as a snitch?
I don't know of Farrakhan necessarily.
He's not, but I'm saying.
But I'm saying I don't know of him having any kind of street experience.
Granted, when I say that about Al Sharpton, I found out about it this morning.
But Al Sharpen, like, he's always been like a black advocate.
he wasn't black panther
what have you found out that he was basically turning in the leaders of black
street gangs
black street gangs helping to supply information about not just street games
but people who are like selling large amounts of drugs and stuff like that
but what if it was ultimately things that benefited the community
hey this guy's selling heroin all over Chicago get them boom they get them
community I would expect getting you
yeah I guess you're right
it's kind of like the best thing I don't believe
I believe Farrakhan will cooperate with the government and do that.
Farrakhan will probably send some of these people out to have a conversation
about what they're doing and where they're doing it at.
Find somewhere else they're doing it.
They probably shouldn't be doing it at all.
But, I mean, you know, when it comes to civilians, bro, I don't call civilians.
I would never call you a snitch.
I can care less if you wouldn't have got to stand on,
people, I would never call you a snitch.
I don't see you, you're a civilian.
I would for sure tell on someone.
This is what I'm saying.
If I walk out of here one day and some guys beat the shit out of me and I know who they are,
I'm calling the police department and I'm telling them who it was.
I was just, I mean, hopefully I'll also get to shoot them.
But in lieu of that, if you got money, I'm suing you.
And for, but I'm, I'm going to tell the cops.
just for the love of the game.
So what have you called to do a punk bitch
and told him his rap,
his garbage, and all this.
And then he came up here and caught you.
Those things are actually like my responsibility as a journalist.
I don't call myself a journalist,
but a person who commentates on rap on the internet,
it's my job to say that shit sucks.
And if he put hands on you behind you doing that,
and you know you did these days.
9-1-1.
There you have it.
And that is like, that's my superpower.
That's the ways of a civilian.
I'll whoop your ass and I'll call the cops after.
So what if he came to fight and you end up whooping his ass?
I'm not a fighter.
Will you still call the police and say he tried to assault me?
Let's say you wanted to fight.
I mean, at that point, I might just be like, all right, you know what?
I'm going to let you hold that ill.
But the door is definitely open.
I think you would call the police just to protect yourself from a lawsuit.
Oh, that is a really good point.
Thank you.
Yes, that is a good idea, yeah.
Yeah.
Because that is kind of like rule, like goal number one for me, avoid lawsuits.
Yeah.
Don't do.
That's why I was at this big like underground rapper basketball game on a Sunday,
tons of people there.
Very few street dudes, mostly like, you know, underground purple hair kids or whatever.
But somebody said to me like, are you kind of bummed?
Like, do you wish you would put on this event?
Like, hell no.
All I see is lawsuit after laws.
A kid breaks his ankle.
I'm like, oh, that's a lawsuit.
That's a fact.
Two dudes getting in a fight.
Oh, that's a lawsuit.
I know there's one thing I can respect about Gilbert Arenas.
And I know Gilbert.
Gilbert, when he got out, he went on his Instagram and said,
all y'all in trouble, I'm telling on everybody.
We should normalize that, yeah.
No, that is normalized for civilians.
Gilbert seemed like he actually did not really have any clue what was going on in his house in terms of this illegal gambling operation.
The paperwork we read, people knew.
He's full of shit, okay.
Everybody knew what the hell was going on.
When you get the demanding where my money at, you know what the hell's going on.
Okay.
See, here goes a thing.
Here goes the bad part when it comes to civilians doing it.
illegal activity.
Yeah.
Everybody and tell on everybody.
So it comes down to who's going to tell first.
No, that's a fact.
Hey, I'm going to be the first one.
I'm going to race you to that phone.
So that means they got to come with the shycy zone.
And they got to change up their walk since they're identifying people by their walk.
Don't limp allowed, yeah.
Don't people that don't limp, start limping.
Yeah, and they walk with a limp.
That way you ain't got to worry about it.
That's a fact.
They identified this dude in a murder by a limp.
Facts.
How do you feel,
so basically like...
What's that?
A trophy, Bino? That's crazy.
Oh, you know about that one?
So,
Chris-Shon Rock said that she was just dating
a Hitchfie Bino for PR.
Like maybe she was getting paid to pretend to be dating him.
Well, shit.
How much it cost to...
How much it costs to suck on toes?
Wait, they were doing that?
Yeah, that's some serious PR.
Shit.
No, she sucked on his toes.
That ain't shit, I don't.
Yeah, that's what they're supposed to do.
All right, I haven't actually heard this,
so let's listen to what you know what to say.
Poor woman, poor hygiene, poor bitch.
She said,
she had the same wig and fifth.
She left me, dead homies.
Somebody said, she said you are her lead.
Way out her league.
That's not even in my league.
I'm on a court.
That bitch on a black top.
They're on home.
And it's still on concrete.
I found the bitch in a car sleeping, said.
And Chris, that's you?
It was really wrong with Junior.
She needs to go get him some proper therapy and be a mom.
All right.
Let's leave the kid out of this.
Do you think this kind of thing happens quite often?
And how much does it cost?
because, like, if I were single, I feel like maybe a fake relationship with Chris John Rock,
I could, I could see how that would be worth it.
No, I don't, bro.
I've seen people, like, go out with people to attend events.
Okay.
But when you're on every day and you're sucking toes, you're throwing up gang signs,
and you're involving the children.
You get what I'm saying, to be around and laying in beds and all this type of stuff?
No, I think what happens is once you realize it's not going your way
and you try to make your move and you put it out there and you meet a dude like hood trophy,
Bino, who's going to like, who didn't care, you know, he called me several times.
What's he saying?
You know, right before he did this, I was about to do some business with him.
I was right here in no jumper.
You know what I'm saying?
Birdman said, let's find a few artists.
I was going to present him, and then I woke up the next morning, and that was that.
And I texted him like, bro, I don't know why you did that.
I can't do no business.
Just the Kashan thing?
Yeah, I pulled back because I can't do no business with you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm team blueface all day long, so I didn't understand what he was doing.
doing.
So Drake should do a song with NBA
a young boy, but you can't
work with an artist that has
had sex with Blueface's ex-girlfriend.
It's not about...
These two things... It's not about it's had
sex. It's about
doing a song with somebody's doing
a song. What one got to do
it another, right? You know, at the end of the day...
It's a relationship. It's the music version of having
sex. No. It's
no way I can bring
a new dude to a
a label that Blueface has something to do with
and walk him through the door behind me
knowing there's some disrespect going on.
See, here it goes.
But did he disrespect Blueface?
He knows what my relationship is with Blueface.
Right?
So at that point in time,
Chris, I'm free to do whatever she won't.
That's her business.
But I'm not going to let nephew look up on the penitentiary
and see me parading around.
and enhancing the dude that's got that going on.
Now does Hood Trophy Brino have any type of loyalty
or any type of comradeship towards Blueface?
Absolutely not.
He doesn't happen.
Because he's clicked up with Soldier Boy who has issues with Blueface.
But we don't care about that.
That ain't nothing anyway.
They don't know each other.
Right.
So Blueface can't even look at Hood Trophy Bino like he did something to him.
but I have a direct tie to Blueface.
You get what I'm saying?
So at that point in time, I'm going to make my decision.
You know what I was thinking about last night?
I got a little lost in a daydream,
just thinking about the fact that Vlad interviewed Soldier Boy back into that,
remember the most viral interview ever.
And then Soldier Boy gets locked up.
So he interviews the dudes who were involved in that home invasion with Soldier Boy.
permanently fucking up his relationship with Soldier Boy.
He has not interviewed Soldier Boy since
because Soldier Boy was so pissed off
of the fact that he interviewed those dudes.
Now, on a purely logical level,
he didn't do anything wrong
because Vlad realistically is not buddy, buddy with Soldier Boy.
You just did an interview.
These other guys were involved in this situation.
You know, their perspective is fair.
They deserve to be heard if they want to talk about
what happened and everything like that.
So you have a situation,
where it's not wrong to interview the guys that broke into his house,
but the long-term strategy that might be the most beneficial or profitable
might just be to keep the relationship cool with Soldier Boy.
And I think Vlad, even though I haven't heard him say this,
I think he might know that because I highly,
I'm sure that there's people that have beef with Bousie
that Vlad has had the opportunity to interview and he has not done it
because his relationship with Bousie and the fact that they do numbers together
is more important to him than just doing an interview that logically is acceptable.
Yeah, well, in this situation, it's simple.
And it was weird because, you know, Hood Trump, he'll hear blood.
He's from the low bottoms or something.
Blueface is a crimp, but, you know, at the end of the day, like I told him,
he's like, yo, what's up with the deal?
Can't do it.
You chose to do what you did, and that's it.
And that's cool.
I ain't got no, no grime about it, but I'm going to stand with Blueface.
Blueface never told me, don't do no business.
That's just a decision.
made like Vlad made his decision.
You know what I'm saying? And he saw what the results was.
Yeah. And sometimes you don't even know that that is the reason why other things don't happen
after the fact like for instance, EBK J-Boe, me and him are real cool.
He's even hit me up talking about he wanted me to be there when he got out of jail,
all this stuff. And then I did interview basically his top op from Stockton bands.
and never really heard from J-Boh too much after that,
which I did get a dope interview with an up-and-comer rapper from Stockton
who now also is facing murder charges and might not see him for many decades.
But I could have protected the J-Bow relationship,
but instead I kind of like chose the...
Now, the dude come on here and disrespect J-Bow?
Hell yeah.
Yeah, well, there it go.
I mean, if, listen, if you and you...
Listen, you couldn't come.
If somebody came up here and said right here,
and Jason Lee's name came up, right?
And this is a dude didn't like Jason Lee.
I'm going to let him say he don't like Jason Lee
what he don't like about Jason Lee.
The minute he goes to disrespecting him,
I'm going to say, bro, he's a friend of mine.
Let that go.
We can move on.
If he continue to do it, I'm going to put these drums to him.
I'm not, we ain't finishing, though.
This ain't going to happen.
But we're talking about, like,
Bloods and Crips of Stockton.
I'm talking about brotherhood, period.
Murderous gang beef.
You don't allow that shit to happen.
And I'm over here.
I'm a white boy who's got no dog in the fight,
and I'm going to say, hey, don't you dare say that about my homie?
Who compared to you, I know almost nothing about besides what they put in the music.
What I'm saying is, if you had that type of relationship with him, then you got it.
If you don't, then you don't.
It's just that simple.
I've ran music rooms on Clubhouse, right?
Well, one of my homeboys came on,
I tell him no dis in the music.
Actually, you're from G. Wayne neighborhood.
And the song came on, and it was disrespectful stuff towards the Crips.
I got Crip partners.
I eliminated him from the contest and kicked his little ass out to rule.
Right?
Because at some point, everybody's,
listening so I can understand you
interviewing his
op he you know he got a thing going on
but if he gets to getting up here he
talk about his mama and talking about his
fucking dead homies and he's
looking at you like well damn Adam
I thought we was cool but when people got to know about
you Adam it's the content
over anything with you you don't care
COE
content over everything
you can give a damn and I keep
tell you. Bands on if
EBKJBO is really a fly
exterminator because his hood is the fly boys so which one is a dude on the right yeah in this
screenshot bands is the guy on the right and jbo's on the left 337k views not bad yeah so and i
get listen i get your position right i over this last six months to a year i've understood
that adam is for the content if you come in to build you
just in the building.
Now, when you get mad, you do bullshit.
You will sacrifice a person's livelihood.
I've seen that, too.
I don't think you're thinking about it.
You're talking about how I destroyed King Pills' career.
When you did that shit with King Pillar and FAA, that was an intentional.
But it don't matter.
That could have went somewhere crazy.
And see that?
You know what that is?
You don't care.
Freedom of information.
no no if you make a song and you dis the trays and then you on the podcast with us i'm gonna bring
that shit up and i'm gonna ask you why you took it out he didn't even just dis the trays he did the
trays he did his trays and then took it out the song yeah but you only brought it up because
he says something you didn't like he says shit is boring yeah so i said here i'll spice it up for you
okay so let's say appeal let's say that right we can definitely say that what about an he
That's my boy.
But why put him in a situation to where he might have to
around and do something drastic because you're mad at the clown?
Because I know Anne Hefe is a real one.
And so I know that if I point out that a clown who's sitting with us,
this his neighborhood and then took it out the song,
I mean, that's not me putting Anne Hefe in the trick bag.
I'm setting Anne Hefe up to look good.
No, you set him up to put him in a trick bag.
Did I set fat pillow?
Now, what Anhefe didn't do is allow you to set him up.
Oh, no.
But in that situation...
He's sonned him.
No.
In that situation...
And they told him what he was rapping about.
Kim Bill said, I wasn't rapping about y'all neighborhood.
Ann Hefe said, I know you wasn't.
No.
But Anhefe understands how the world going to see it.
You used an heap...
You weaponized an Hefe against dude.
You should have just dealt with dude.
I did.
You should have came up with something that was isolated with you and him.
Why?
Why throw NFA in a trip back?
I pointed out that his gang bang and his flaw.
No, what you try.
See, and I hate to say this,
your ass ain't going to learn.
I told you I never fucking in the first place.
Like, you ain't going to get the argument of me with that.
But you're not going to learn until you witness what that can really bring.
that dude is from
A trade gangster
He's a trait for real
Who is doing
500 years
Collectively
behind that word
And him being
A reptable
Because what he was supposed to do
By the rules
Was get off
We were podcasting
I don't think it was like that
If you said a dude
right here
and you say,
what about
what you said
you dis par rule.
There you go.
I'm getting off on him.
That's a fact.
And we just might
whoop your ass out
because we know what's over
with anyway.
You're just going to pod.
No, it ain't going to happen.
You just pod.
Listen, see, you got to see,
you, you've been getting
away with it.
I'm telling you.
And you're my brother
and I hope to God,
I swear to God,
that you don't never have to experience the evil that the streets do.
And, Hafe, listen, man, the dude you meeting is a podcaster.
It's another dude there that he constantly got to tell himself, I'm here to pot.
I'm here to pot.
And all it takes is for him to slip in that rotation and he go to who he was to survive in the street,
the penitentiary, and you got some gangbaker.
Think of me like an aspiring referee.
I see people catching fouls.
Now, I might not know every rule,
but I know you just ran through that paint to do that layup,
and you didn't dribble the ball.
Have you ever...
I'm going to call it as I see it.
Have you ever Googled referees that got hit in the ring?
No.
That happens sometimes?
Well, guess what?
You're getting a TKO.
You're out of there.
Listen, you know, a technical foul.
You're on some bullshit, and you know you're on some bullshit.
And I said...
Why are you bringing up a old shale?
It's not old. It's you.
But listen, listen, Adam, this
is what's crazy. I know that's
you. What?
It's content over everything.
Three months ago. It's ancient history.
No, listen. You just did
it last week to your boy.
Who? Come on, bro. Like,
you don't care.
I care. No, you don't.
You only care. I just want everybody to be
transparent. Listen, you only care
when it directly affects you. Then you care.
No, I just want everybody to
keep it real.
Okay.
If you dis a hood in your song
and then you take it out the song,
I'm going to ask you about it.
Okay.
So if he wouldn't have said
that weird comment
about how boring it is,
would you have ever brought it up?
We might have had better shit to talk about it.
So he might have been able to duck it.
He told me he was bored.
Let's heat it up.
You are a vindictive.
Go out to the stove.
Heat it up.
Yo,
and like sitting back watching you work
is funny as hell
because your facial expressions
tell every day
like I know when I'm sitting here
when I just said something to agitate you
I know when you like
I can it's all this shit
it just like does this
listen you do some real cowboy
Billy Bob shit
them blue eyes they get real cold
and we know
Adam about to do some bullshit
you are pointing out the fact that I brought
that up, but what you're avoiding
is the fact that as soon
as it even started
to seem tense, as soon as you could tell
that Anne Hefe was turning the heat up,
what I say, all right, all right, we're going to move on the next topic.
Yeah, but see, that's the thing.
You ain't going to always better control it.
They let you control it. When it go,
bro, listen, let me tell you something.
An Heafé got homies be with him.
When he moved, they're going to move.
Ain't nothing. Your voice, all you can do is go
in the corner. I think what's important
that you're kind of distracted from is that
King Pills a bitch. And I got him out to paint.
Well, he had homies here, too.
And they were cool, actually.
No, he had a home to say he was doing.
Huh? They weren't down with the bullshit he was doing.
Keep in mind, he was trying to bite me. They grabbed him and dragged him out of here.
Yeah, somebody had a head on their shoulder. Yeah.
You let him mush you all in the face. I'm like, that shit was crazy.
The tape is out there. My face was not touched.
That was an absolutely lie.
Put left nail marks in your neck.
Tattoos had to hill up and shit.
That shit is cratsy.
You got it re-hit.
Same way those woods do up in that parking lot.
I've seen the whole tape.
Yo, why is that dude shining so much?
What the, what the, bro?
Look, the brandon dude.
Bro, he looks like a,
remember the beef jerkeys, the slim sticks?
Yeah.
Bro, why?
What the?
You think he oiled up before he came on there?
Nig, what is that?
It's like he just, what the fuck?
That is crazy.
Come on, bro.
And look at the shoes, make it way worse.
Oh, my God.
And then you got, like, P. Nice next to him.
You know, I hate the fact that in this room, it looks like your leg is always touching the other guy's leg.
Which in this case, it might actually.
But I'm saying, like, you know, it's just, it makes you look hell of gay or a Tam.
They were like, oh, Adams rubbing his leg against her.
I absolutely did not ever touch my leg on her leg.
Oh, Tam.
But it looks like, because of the camera angle and because we're sitting close, it does.
look like I'm man spreading my leg all over, which I was not.
I did see you put your arm around her.
No, I might have gone like this around the back of the couch.
Yeah, I've seen that.
I'm not rubbing her hair.
No, you lean forward.
They're going to look at her skull.
I seen you.
They edited out.
The edit.
I seen the edits.
There's no edits live.
All the edits that they cut out, I've seen it.
I was looking at it.
And I've seen you kind of like leaning in a little bit.
It's live, you jive turkey.
Anyway, T-Grisley, you got some explaining it to do.
That's a fact.
Al Sharpton
I don't know
Bro
He might have to miss a few bar reviews
Was it out
No the other snake
Who Jesse
Is it Jesse Jackson
You don't remember
What Jesse did to Obama
He was telling
You don't remember
What he did to Obama
What?
When Obama was out there
He forgot the microphone
Was all
And he was like
We're gonna see something
About with this
Sellout boot licking digger
Something got to say
And it was on
Oh shit
I don't remember
Now they say
Jesse Jackson
Has something to do
With lining up
Marlonut de King
I don't put it past him
I don't put it past none of them dudes.
You know what I'm saying?
But Al Sharpton, I don't know, man,
might be some of the mafia dudes still lingering around.
Well, the mafia dudes are the ones
who are cheating in these poker games, apparently.
Oh, that's mafia?
That's what the police report said.
What type of mafia?
Italian mafia?
They just said mafia.
I'm assuming Italian mafia, but I don't know.
They didn't deal the way.
I don't know, bro.
I mean, then they said 2019?
I don't know
How about
Much E. B. letting Alex
Alonzo just mark him out
and talk about and discuss things
up there with him that he knew
he shouldn't be talking about it discussing.
I didn't see this what?
Bro, crazy.
You know what? Watch this.
You asked me what was going on
and I said nothing.
You knew I was bothered. Remember a couple weeks ago?
Oh, the pirate.
You like whatever call you just got, I can tell.
I'm like, yeah, let's just keep moving.
You told me.
You said a bunch of Pirates got...
Yeah, but I wasn't going into it on the podcast.
Right, right, right.
Right?
I said, yeah, they just did a...
They're going to talk about it, though.
But I watched him going on and...
And I don't think Munchy B wanted to talk about it.
I don't think he wanted to talk about it.
But Alex is up there.
I think he's so thirsty for content.
He ain't got nothing else to talk about because Munchy B.
Well, you know, let me take it back.
Munchy B was shunning him, but he should have told him,
hey, bro, we ain't holling about that.
Period.
Because dude is flashing pictures.
He mentioned the names.
The homie, one of the names, but you called me like, well, I said, bro.
The n-can't see, but you can damn show here.
I don't know what's wrong with him.
Oh, no.
Shout out to the mayor.
He didn't get exposed.
Okay.
They've been exposing.
Everybody getting exposed.
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