No Jumper - That Mexican OT on Being The Best Rapper in Texas, Peso Peso Beef & More

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Mexican OT talks about his comeup, how his family pushed him to rap, his wild upbringing, Peso Peso, Swifty, Takeoff and more. ------ 0:00 Intro 0:04 Introducing That Mexican OT as the Crown Jewel of Texas 1:06 Being from a small town: Bay City, Texas 2:39 OT's mother passed away when he was 8 years old 2:56 OT describes living with his Dad who always had a house full of women and forced him to battle rap at 5AM 5:10 OT says he became a troublemaker due to a messed up childhood and trust issues 5:40 OT explains how his uncles got him into rapping at 4 years old 6:40 Adam says he has never heard his style of rap before and OT says he was always listening to lyrical rap growing up 11:55 OT says people organically gravitated to his music online 13:38 OT explains the importance of representing Texas hard in his music 15:05 OT's shares his lean habits 17:10 OT on the importance of consistency and getting an interview by Hip Hop Live Show 18:00 OT clears the air about calling out Peso Peso 19:30 Mexican rappers in LA having mostly Mexican fans 22:13 Touring around the US with OhGeesy and cultural differences 23:56 Relationship with SPM and his conversation with him on the phone while in prison 25:30 Working on Country music and experimenting in other genres 27:26 OT's thoughts on Swifty Blue label comment 28:47 The reputation that Texas has after Takeoff’s passing 33:03 That Mexican OT explains where he got his stage name ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm bringing you a much anticipated interview with one of the crown jewels coming out of Texas right now. That Mexican OT is in the building. Damn. How you feeling, man? Feeling good. Appreciate the intro. I just also want to say that in my head, it is really hard to remember to say that that Mexican OT.

To me, in my head, it seems like it should be OT the Mexican. Nah. So it's like I keep reversing it. So I apologize if I do that again. No, you good, gangster. That's funny, though. Yeah, for sure. It's a pleasure being here, bro.

I remember watching your shit, you know what I'm saying? Oh, hey, I appreciate it. Yeah, without a doubt, my boys, too. My boys were fucking shit and breaks when they found it out. Okay, and what's your name? CJ. CJ, okay. And how are you guys friends?

I'm not kinfolk. Okay. Nice. Yeah, no, I appreciate it, man. For real. I actually got turned on your music from Johnny Shipes. He put me in touch. Yeah, that's my dog.

And basically just told me to check it out. And I checked it out. And I was like, damn, this dude's doing a lot of fucking views. And you definitely got a whole movement going on right now, huh? Yeah, I bust my bitch ass off. It seems like it. So, all right, tell me about where exactly you're from and everything. I'm from Bay City, Texas.

Right. And where, where, border county. What's it near? Next to Houston, south of Houston. Okay. Yeah. And it's right on the border of Mexico? No, not really.

We're on the Gulf of Mexico. Oh, okay. Yeah, and Gulf of Mexico. And what's it like out there? shit just country it's just small towns right it's kind of like

quiet sleepy type area yeah nothing like this shit this nothing like other ain't but we definitely got like a mall and you got a mall Lake Jackson got a mall right you know what I'm saying but like it

that's about like from basically Lake Jackson about like 40 minutes okay and so what was your childhood like shit it was cool you know I mean you know it was rough like you know had a lot of family issues You know bumping heads being a hot head always getting in the fights and shit, but it was nothing crazy. You know what I'm saying? I did a lot of dumb shit

Really? Yeah, but what your parents do? My mother's dead. Oh my mother passed from what age? I'm my mother passed when I was a I was eight and my father's shit my father was in prison when I was like four times like 10 He got out. I was living with him for a while. That shit was fun and Shit, then me, you know what I'm saying? I mean he and him just kind of separated and I started living with my step-mama And man, you know what I'm saying? She was a good mother to me man. What happened with your mom when you were eight? She passed from a car ridden Really? Yeah, holy shit. Yeah, hell yeah, that's terrible. Yeah, but I mean, you know what I'm saying? it's uh you know what i'm saying i couldn't imagine losing her now you know what i'm saying i'm glad it's over with yeah definitely it sucks that that happened but so when you start living with your dad

though like is he on some some wild shit fuck yeah fuck yeah man right that motherfucker was where i was in seven grade that nigga bro he would have a house full of women i remember there'd be women sitting on the stairs you know what i'm saying he was just that and you're like 12 you have or you're you're on 7th grade and i remember he'd wake me up and he'd be like son it's five, four o'clock in the morning I'm like, what? He's like, you ready to whoop ass? I'm like, I gotta get ready for school

all this shit. He was like, fuck school, you ready to whoop ass? And fucking I go down there and he'd have like three or four dudes there and they'd think they can rap and he'd want them to eat these niggas up. What the fuck? Yeah.

What the hell was your dad doing up at five in the morning hanging out with a bunch of dudes who think they can rap? Just doing some wild shit? No, no, no, no, no, no. He was with the women. Right. Them niggas was there just because they thought they could rap

And he just, that was his entertainment. You know, he's my number one fan. He's no, I'm gonna eat anybody of. Right. But, okay, your dad, like, because Boosie got a lot of shit for basically saying that he had a stripper, I think give his 14-year-old son a blowjob.

Is that out of pocket or is that normal? I mean, I don't know. I feel like on social media in the current age, it's viewed a certain way. And I feel like a lot of people, like Boosie, to them, it's like, what? It's my son. That's just regular life, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. So you got exposed to some of the finer things of life for the early age. Yeah, definitely, bro. It was wild. My dad was cool, you know what I'm saying? He put me on a lot of game.

Poor last motherfucker. Why did you guys stop living together? He just, you know what I'm saying? Just wanted to live. I'm saying? And I had a stepmother that was, you know, she, you know, when I was with my father, you know, he was dead for me. He always wants me to be correct and always wants me to do good.

You know what I'm saying? My dad always told me, son, I don't get a fuck if you're a failure or your success will just be a good person. You know what I'm saying? But it just wasn't really that many rules because he was living. Yeah, it sounds like it. So I'm, you know, doing what I want to do. And then, you know, he knew that my stepmother would be there for me and, you know,

be on my bitch ass about it and shit like that. Right. Yeah, I was still fucking up with her, you know what I'm saying? Like, I, you know, I feel bad for how I acted, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like my mother lost her job because she was always, you know, lost jobs because she was always having to pick me up from school. You know what I was always getting into fights. I just, I had a lot of hating me, you know, I feel like the word owed me something.

I was just a hot head and shit. Where do you think that anger came from as a young man? Man, bro, man, I got, man, my friend, just being fucked over as a kid, being having trust issues, you know what I'm saying, just shit like that. Right. I just, you know, just mad. My mother being taken away from me. I didn't have my father.

When my mother died, I separated from my family, you know what I'm saying? Right. It was just wild. So when did a rap become part of you? because you're talking about being really young and having your dad tell you to rap. At what age were you rapping? Like four.

Like four? Yeah. It just made sense to you? You just heard it on the radio and you liked it? My uncles was doing it. My dear Sam, she was like a freshman. Her boyfriend was like a sophomore. Maybe he was a junior at the time.

That's my uncle Mohn. And shout out to him. That's kick dough. And my cousin, Homer Pimson. Shout out Pimp. Motherfucking, my uncle, Esco. And it was really me, Homer, Esco, and my Uncle Mohn.

them three really and they was doing kick dough and i was just watching them do it you know what i'm saying and they was doing it inside my my granddad's shed you know they had the the microphone and everything so it's just easy access boom i'm watching them and i want to be cool like them and want to do it like them right and they just made off i don't know how much of my music you checked out right i'm super excited for you for you to hear like what i got in the future but i like bro i'm a fucking animal right I mean, that is what stood out to me the most from listening to you is like, I don't know if I ever heard a Mexican rapper rap like this, and I don't know if I ever heard a rapper from Texas rap like this.

And I bet, bro, they've been waiting for something like me, cuz. Right. So, okay, that was that super lyrical, fast rap and being willing to get real technical with it. Was that something that you got put onto? That was like the early styles of rap that you paid attention to? Yeah, I definitely. My uncle Isko was doing that shit, but I was like, they kind of just introduced me to the music. I thought that was cool, so they got me into it.

Right. You know what I'm saying? If there was somebody that I would, like, consider, like, who I wanted to sound like, and, you know what I'm saying, was that guy for me, was Big Air. Like, I was always jamming, like, a lot of the East Coast, from Philly to Detroit to New York, like 50, Nile's Big Air and Buster, probably like that, you know, that's my shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm for, I'm for a lot of Tissis, you know what I'm going to have the groove in me. It's interesting that you appreciate the classes.

How old are you? 23. 23. What the fuck? I'm 38. You make it look good, baby. Thank you. But Big L, like, I was a Big L fan and Big L was dead by, what, 96 or something? So you were really digging in the crates there, huh?

Yeah, I had just moved to Austin and I had a partner named Furman. This motherfucker, like, we in the 7th grade together and I don't even think we had a eighth grade. I don't even think, like, him and his family didn't even have, like, papers, you know what I'm saying? They fresh from the board and shit like that. And, you know, he's the only one I'm talking to, you know what I'm saying? And his name was Furman. Uh-huh. And it's crazy as fuck, man. I hope if you see this, but many blessings to you, baby.

I hope it's as far as you could throw it. Anyways, that motherfucker was jamming him. And he was like, man, let me put you on some. Cudwood, right, right, whatever the fuck he said. And I put them headphones in and he brought me up. Fuck me up. And I was already jamming Hobson. Hobson was another one that I was fucking it up.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But you were just always drawn to the lyrical shit because it feels like a lot of young kids are just drawn to like whatever's popping at that time. or they want to hear like little kid versions of grown-up rappers. They wanna hear like some 14 year old kid

talking about shooting up the block or whatever and a lot of times. So it's kind of surprising just hearing somebody who is like a fan, a classic hip-hop at a young age. Man, I love music, it's more than rap. Yeah. I got country music that I'm gonna be dropping. I got rock music that I'm doing, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. That's dope. It's just I love music. I thank God every single morning that I got music because like, man, boy, I know I'm not getting up at 5 o'clock in the morning to go to work. I know I'm not for me sweeping off broom.

I know I'm not, I can't cook. You know what I'm saying? I'm useless as fucking. But when it comes to this music, but that's all I know. And it's a blessing for me, you know what I'm saying? And I've been busting my bitch ass off and it works for me. That's why I would never want to disrespect it.

Right, that's why I go hard. Right. So you were rapping all through high school, but like, when did you start to kind of take it serious? At what point you start putting videos on shit? Like a year and a half ago. Oh, so you waited that long? Yeah.

Why did you decide to wait that long? if you've been doing it forever. Did you feel like you were just still, like, getting your shit together in terms of? No, I just, that's, shit, that's when it was time. I don't know, I just started doing it then. Right. Definitely.

Like, I was always in trouble, too. I was always in trouble as a kid. So I was never really able to focus on it. I mean, I feel like, you know what I'm busy being a kid type shit. So. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was trying to figure shit out still, you know what I'm saying? Because, like, I had a lot of problems with my family.

You know what I'm saying? and, you know, just having that issue, you know what I'm talking about. You finished high school? Shit, hell yeah. You did? Hell yeah, I did. I did. That's up.

I did. I did. You know what I'm saying? Shit, hard work. You know what I'm saying? God and just the people that I had around me. Did you get in a lot of trouble in high school? Yeah, I did, bro.

But, you know what I'm saying? It was all just over, like, fighting shit. Right. Yeah. Definitely. So, okay, you start putting music out. And does it start to go viral, right away or like at what point does it start to go viral i think like 2018 i dropped my

first music video and the only reason why i dropped that is because he had like this over because my fault man the only reason why uh i dropped this one because i just got back from austin because i was living in austin for a little bit and then uh i moved back down to the country and i was in a dove west columbia i was with my grandparents and um and uh shit i was just rapping you know what i'm saying i didn't know what i was doing like i just was rapping You know what I'm saying? And, you know, my uncle Mona, and then they still got the studio set up, so I'm right back in there, boom, you know, I'm making music.

My cousin DJ was like, you know, he got a homeboy and he was like, hey, you know, I want to show him your, just music, you know, he showed it. And he was like, boy, you got me jump on this hole. I gotta, kind of jump on it. It was called Plan C. I said, okay, we'll drop it. Well, I said, well, you could record it. So he recorded to it, he was like, bro, we gotta do a video, got to do it.

You know what I'm, I'm high as fuck like, fuck it. Ain't got nothing else to do. Uh-huh. So we did it. Dropped it. Like in a month, I think it was like that 45K and got stuck. Right. And no problem.

No, we just country kids, just dropped the video. Right. So you just kept going with it? Kind of. And it just blew up on its own? Or like, how did you get eyeballs on it? I just fucking, we just dropped it. Right.

And people just started to gravitate towards it or what? Yeah. Yeah. Because I've always been a cool motherfucker. So everywhere I go. Everybody already know me. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So that's kind of, you know, kind of already had a fan base. It feels like super lyrical hip hop hopper. It has like a real consistent fan base on YouTube. People like, you know, you mentioned Hobson or even think of somebody like Dax. It's like, you know, he really not my cup of lean on the cool, you know what I'm saying? Dax. Yeah, he do it. He do, though.

Right. It's just, you know, you got to have the full package. You got to have the voice. You got everything. His voice is really not there for me. Yeah. That's fair. But he's still fine, though.

But somebody like logic, you know, has like, kind of took that to an extreme of just being this like, you know, since like he just has this like diehard fan base that just loves the super lyrical shit. Like I just feel like there's always going to kind of be a market for that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But so it's interesting because you have a lot of different influences though, too, because I'm listening to your shit and some of it's like chopped and screwed fucking. You definitely experiment a lot. See, this is good.

Yeah. That's why. No, no. It's just cool to see you have that influence as well. well because like I feel like you know I got it everywhere but I'm dropping shit I'm speaking like DMX on one of them really because some people would like if you if they like fucking mob deep or 50 cent or whatever you were saying that they wouldn't necessarily gravitate towards the other shit as well although like you know I'm interviewing Paul wall and he's doing all this like

hip hop ass shit these days you know like it is kind of just other sides of the same coin yeah definitely man that's cool as fuck that I'm here thank you again for having me bro my pleasure man Yeah. So, okay, do you go out of your way to, like, to portray the fact that you have respect for your Texas roots? Because I see you got the boots on, you got the hat. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but this is comfortable. This is what I look good in.

This is me. You know what I'm saying? This is what I feel comfortable in. Really? It is comfortable because I feel like the hat doesn't seem that comfortable to me. I'm going to be honest. Really? Well, it's not like I've really spent much time wearing one, but.

You should try it, Adam. I thought about it before. I thought about buying a full cowboy outfit one time when I was. I was in Vegas for this poker tournament, and then I just couldn't picture myself sitting there for 10 hours wearing that. I think you look mad to find. The boots. I don't know, man.

Look at these. Although, to be honest, my fucking footwear does look pretty pathetic compared to yours. Your shit is masculine as fuck. This is beta as fuck. Nah, no, you make it look right, because. It's, like, acceptable. But it's definitely not a cowboy boot. Cowboy boot is a statement.

What's a go-to shoe for you? Honestly, these, or just, like, you know, some dunks, some fucking basic-guess. I ain't even gonna hold you. Yeah? Yes. You're barefoot when you're home a lot? Yeah. What kind of, do you live on like a farm?

Like, where do you live? I don't want to soon, but now. I just, I like it where I'm at because it's chill, it's sweet. You know what I'm saying? Everybody just be chilling mind of the business. I don't like the city. Really? Yeah.

You know, like being like really out in the nature? Yeah. Okay. See, I can't really get into that. I get anxiety when I'm away from the city. Like talking about, take the food, let it go get the mill. Right. I don't know, man.

I like to be in the middle of some shit I dig it, boy, everybody got their own cup of lean How many cups of lean do you have? Is that a big part of your life? It was It was for a period of time And you kind of got past it or what? No, I still want to, bro, just like, man

That shit, you know what I'm saying? Fake shit these things, bullshit They got shit and taste it's called Almost What's that? They fucking, almost Really? Yeah, I was about like, yeah So everybody getting served fake lien out there now?

I'm not gonna say that. I would never want to say that. What's up with, like, the cartel lien? I heard that that shit's out there. I don't know. I don't want to speak on. There's not some fucking Mexican lien that they're synthesizing down there? Shit.

It seems like a great idea. Bro, I'm sure. Who knows, man? There's so much going on. Because lien prices are so high that it's like if you could make good fake, you know, fake lien or whatever. I mean, it seems like a huge market that I'm surprised. But that's equivalent to like, I feel like that's taking a press pill. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm not no gremlin. A lot of people that are taking. press pills. Yeah, nah, y'all are animals. Do what you do, baby. And a lot of press pills are fine. If you like it, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Like a lot of them, like, if you buy drugs off the dark web and shit, it's real drugs, but it's somebody made it in a fucking factory in China or whatever. When you fucking won't. I don't do it. I don't do any of it. So I'm glad I'm not fucking rolling the dice. Yeah, no, I dig it. That shit. It's just insane that people really do it.

Yeah. It's crazy. Shit. Shout out to y'all. It is crazy because when I used to be taking pills all time we weren't even thinking about fentanyl like what and then little peep died and then we realized like oh shit you can get fake pills that kill you yeah that's when we realized i just saw it wasn't it like his his it was just the uh five-year anniversary of his death yeah i just saw it on an instagram you couldn't you couldn't hide it you can deny it he posted a fucking instagram photo him with the zanax on his tongue Jesus yeah it was intense rest in peace man sad shit killed a lot of people you know yeah there was where i'm at it for little bit you know it was going down people was getting fucking knocked off by that shit yeah

sitting on the perks yeah definitely so um okay now like your music starts going viral on its own how you start advancing your career from there like like what's the mentality shit consistency mm you just kept dropping over and over and just trying to outdo yourself yeah and while i was doing that i had a boy named greg and he was you know on the other side You know, trying to help push my name out there. Just shout me out a little bit to his connects. And then I met a dude named Ghetto and Hipop Live Show. Hipop Live Show was a, it's probably, I think hip hop live show was the first, like, you know,

podcast and things to like believe in me and like, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, this is that Mexican OT. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Right, yeah. This is the dude I see an interview. Yeah, my boy Ghetto. Okay.

Yeah, shout out in Diva for show. Okay. I was watching some of those clips when I was trying to figure out the root of this peso, Peso, thing. Yeah, nah, I mean, shit. There was, uh, you guys are on tour together now, apparently? Yeah. So that, that's dope to see that that got patched up, because I've been homies with him since he first came out. It was really never nothing there. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like at the time, bro, that's just how I was feeling. Like, I mean, fuck, if you're fucking rapping, you should feel like nobody should beat you either. I obviously called that

motherfucker's name out for a reason. He was, he's the best. He was the best at the time. But it's interesting because from a hip-hop perspective, if you were a fan of, of hip-hop throughout the early 2000s and shit, the mixtape era, it was super normal to hop on somebody's beat. Little Wayne hopped on everybody's fucking beat in the entire rap game, and nobody took it as a diss. It was always just some hip-hop competitive shit. That doesn't really happen that much,

and when people do it, a lot of times people catch feelings about it now. That's because I'm in it to fucking win it. I love this shit. Yeah, these days, man, people take shit different. They take shit different ways. Yeah. I mean, that was the perfect song that set off a little minnow. beef though because it is the hardest

ever. It's like a song about being the best Mexican rapper from Texas or whatever. I don't even want to be a hard as ever. That's Pesol. Like Paiso is the hardest that ever. You know what I'm saying? I'm that Mexican routine. Right. I mean, you guys are definitely totally different style-wise. Yeah, yeah, also that, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. But we do got a song that actually dropped. What's today? Friday? Yeah, it drops tonight. It drops tonight at 12. Okay, but so in L.A., there's definitely a lot of Mexican rappers who I think that they kind of have like a purely Mexican fan base to a certain extent, you know, like that's just like the vast majority of their fan base. Do you feel like you have that kind of fan base? You feel like you just have a more overall fan base?

I got them all. I got everybody. I got white, black men's skin. Polka dot. All of them. That's dope. I got all of them and they all love me. I'm a good person. You know what I'm saying? I saw nothing but love and respect and you know what I'm saying? Shit, that gets me fall. You know, a lot of people respect that. Not only that, like I said, I'm just a cool motherfucker. I don't fake the funk. Right. I'm Virgil.

Definitely. So, wait, just to finish this other conversation, what was this? What had to happen specifically for you in Pacea Pacea to become cool after it was a little tense for a minute there? Was there anyone mutual connect who kind of helped smooth it over or anything? No. Just straight up, just men talk. You guys just finally chopped it up? Yeah, we was at a soul.

they caught each other and uh i mean shit you know what i'm saying fuck you feel me knocking you gonna let me in i you know what i'm saying i'm like it gets i put it in the motherfucker face right you know what i'm saying but he you know what i'm saying like he didn't even swing down like he even it wasn't beef but even if it was supposed to he didn't swing down like he just straight over was like i respected you know what i'm saying he didn't call me harder or didn't dick rob me and nothing he just like i respect it i love your hustle you know what i'm saying I think we could do a lot. You know, I mean, fuck, you know, he was really on a business standpoint.

You know, like, everybody in taste us want to see us together. Right, exactly, yeah. You guys could definitely do a lot more for each other working together than you could beefing, you know. Yeah, I'm already knowing it. And I don't want to beef with nobody. Right. You know, I want to have friends everywhere. It doesn't really get you anywhere in the long run.

I want to be your friend, Adam. I don't know what the fuck. I mean. Shit, don't. It could get us a little short-term attention, but ultimately it's just kind of stupid. I take pride and not arguing with my boys. Right. Well, I mean, but arguing with your boys, like,

I actually kind of take pride in arguing with him, too, because if I have an issue with one of my boys, I want to be able to just bring it up. Let's get to it. You know, like, let's just air this shit out as soon as possible if I got any kind of issue with you, you know? Yeah, nah, but I mean, shit, we really don't know. No.

I mean, we do. We argue, but, I mean, it's just, it's little boys, you know what I'm saying? But, like, as far as it's just, like, arguing, like, he's saying, like, nah. It ain't funny be none of that bitch shit. The boys be having going on these days. People be arguing and shit like females, these things, that shit. Right.

Getting into beef, like you said. I mean, I don't know. For sure. So have you toured much outside of Texas, or is it primarily just up in there? It's like its own world, right? I went on tour with O'Gizi. Oh, nice.

We went to, hey, man, shout out O'Jizi. Shout out of O'Jizi. Oh, Rory, all them boys, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I fuck with Cuds, really, you know what I'm saying? Like, watching them, watching them maneuver, you know, through everything and seeing the shows that he's showing, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? That motherfucker had some full houses, bro.

Right. He did shit. What stood out to you about the difference between, uh, L.A. guy and a Texas guy, though? Anything stand out? Shit, everything is completely different. Apples and ones are. Really? Different slang.

Everything. Attitude. Everything. Y'all call them Lolo's. We call them slabs. Lolo's? Oh, well, like a car. Yeah.

y'all say y'all i mean we say y'all y'all y'all say you guys we'd be like with my thuds or like my boys they i'd be like the gang the homies the homies the homies the hummys that's what juno says yeah yeah yeah yeah i talk like this for real some of us maybe i don't know like the ganges like when i be seeing them in that music videos and shit i mean shit it looked good they're doing it you know what saying but it's just everything is so different. Right definitely. But it's shit, but that's, you know what I'm saying? That's why they stand

up. That's why we stand up. But do you like to make your music sound very Texas or do you like to make sure that could maybe have a wider appeal? What's your attitude on that? Man, bro, that's why I'm telling you, I'm excited for you to hit my new shit. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because shit, it's more than rap.

Like I said, I do everything. Right. I just need a tempo and I'm going P. Yeah, definitely. Who who oh so okay what's your relationship with SPM? You know what I'm saying? He cool, good people you know what I said and I chop it up with him? On the phone yeah really how'd you get put in touch with him

Because he's in prison for sure what it's not I guess I'm just started my music Somebody called me like I got SPM on the phone he wants to you and I was like uh all right And he was just being encouraging about the music or what was he was like bro you're fucking insane you know what I'm saying I fuck with you uh you know he started just telling me about how, you know, his game playing and you're just giving me good words and shit, but mostly calling me to tell me, like, I fuck with you, I want to do shit with you, you know. Right.

Because he's going to be out potentially, well, he's up for parole, I think, like, next year, right? Yeah. So you think that that's going to change, do you think he's going to have a big career when he comes out, or do you think that the people have moved on? I hear that people, like, still listen to him a lot in Texas and shit. Fuck, yeah, bro. It's SPM. Right.

bro you ain't got to leave you ain't got to leave texas to be to have a fat-ass fan base right you know what I'm saying shit that muck that motherfucker right there make a living off tics is if for real solid bro from from from love it to fucking you know what I'm saying down there when he gets out that's gonna be crazy it's gonna be wild to see what that's like I'm excited yeah I'm excited I you know what I'm saying I know he's working on music. Yeah, I think he'll have a good career when he comes home. Really, yeah. The fan base is big enough.

Whatever, there's many blessings to him. Oh, okay. So, yeah, you said that you were making country music? Yeah. Like, how do you go about that process and how do you decide, like, how hip-hop you want to keep it versus how country you want to make it? It's like a lot of different ways you can approach it. Yeah.

I'm sure eventually, it would be crazy to make a full-on country song, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sure I've tried it. But I try to keep you know what I'm saying like 808s and that bitch and shit you know what I'm saying Right there's a lot of people who kind of like transition from just rap into doing the country shit at a certain point Like fucking jelly roll and all these different people who are able to find like a totally different arc in their career But like I said I do more than country too like I do you know what I come at you with rock I come at you with jazz you know the one that I'm talking about right now it was a country song got kind of got the beat remade my boy oliver and the hollow um could you play the acusa guitar no no you should learn and then during your sets have

this like weird moment where it gets dark and there's just a light on you and you're playing the guitar and doing some carido shit or whatever yeah yeah that be lit yeah performing with a mariachi man well i mean hey that's your decision but that could take you to a whole different level yeah it was already part of the gameplay hmm just fully embrace that shit as hard as you can. Kind of you. You know what I'm saying? I mean, shit, fuck it.

Like my people, I mean, I care for it. You know what I'm saying? It's a part of me and shit, you know, but my people, they love that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm here to give them what they want. Right.

I don't know if you heard about this, but there was a whole thing where there's this L.A. rapper, a Swifty Blue, who was basically saying that he wouldn't sign with a black label because he feels like he wants to stick with his own race. How do you feel about that opinion? I understand what he's coming from, you know what I'm saying?

I ain't saying I agree with it or nothing, you know. I mean, shit, look at this for kid. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I got love everywhere. But you don't view the world so much based on race? Like, that doesn't really matter to you. You would sign with a black rapper or a black label?

Yeah, hey yeah. Like, man, bro, shit, I go wherever it's best for me. And it's going to give me the furthest. Right. I don't get fuck by another other shit. Definitely. Bess whip you know what I'm saying shit I don't know brother that my motherfucker being you're tapping in with him out here uh I was at I was at my boy Zay he had me at uh

at nipsy's studio oh really and I had saw him there and uh I guess he was there working on music and he showed me something and I punched him with him but I did the song with him but I did it you know I'm saying just so you know from a cat I did it for Texas and Cali thing you know right just to show that It's cool like that. Also, YBE has another Cali Mexican I did a song with him. He cooled in a bitch. Right.

He hit me up. And, you know, we got shit cracking from there. It was all love, all fun and shit, you know. Yeah, shout out YBE. Definitely. Shout out of YBE. How do you feel about the reputation, perhaps, that, like, Houston or Texas in general might be getting?

Because, you know, you saw a bunch of people saying that, like, don't go to Houston, et cetera, after take off, got killed there. Do you think that's crazy or is that, like, is it a little bit of truth to that? I mean, fuck, you know what I'm saying? It's everyday shit. The only reason why it's on the news is because it's came. It's because it's takeoff. Right.

Same shit happens down here, I mean. This is true. It's everywhere. Plenty of rappers from all over the world got killed in L.A. Like, plenty of rappers, like P&B Rock or Pop Smoke. Yep. They come to L.A. and they got killed and nobody holds it against L.A., right? Well, I guess they do, but, I mean, what are you going to do?

Osmo got kid in LA? Yeah. No shit. Yeah. In his Airbnb. You shitting me? Yeah. Some young gang members ran up in his Airbnb and rest in peace.

I thought it was in New York. Damn, yeah, rest in peace. It's crazy. Yeah, definitely. Who would be like your dream collabs, artists to work with? Megan. Really? That big a fan.

Interesting. Mega Chris Brown. Breazzing, my boy, Breezing. Highland and throw it. Right. A fogo breezing. Damn. So is mega inspiration?

though just because she kind of came up out of Texas in the last few years and shit nah man just like she just I mean yeah cool she came out of Texas definitely but she just fucking do it you know what I'm saying like at first when I first heard her I wouldn't I wasn't used to women talking like that so it fuck me up yeah you're into it now though yeah the way man she get them girls lit hey that's what I'm saying but she do it you know what I'm saying like that's me yeah so Definitely.

Okay, but so what are your thoughts on checking in in general? Do you feel like, do people got to check in when they go to Texas? Well, enjoy it. Go to Austin. It's beautiful over there. Right. Go to love it. Go to like, you know, go to like, you know what I'm saying, where you see some mountains.

We'll go to go to countryside. You know what I'm saying? I guess it matters how outside you want to be, you know? Because if I go to Texas, I'm not even thinking about it. I was just in Texas for a wedding. Yeah. even think about it. Oh, it was great, yeah. It never occurred to me that

Odine ain't kind of protection or anything. I'm kind of like more of a normal guy in comparison, I think. Yeah, Tentz has got love, bro. Yeah. It's cool like that. Definitely. Like he said, man, walking H&B, no shoes on. Yeah, don't get twisted.

There are all parts, you know what I'm saying, where, like, people are just fucking just on some other shit, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, you don't know. Right. Like, don't go there. Yeah, definitely. All right, so what else you got coming up?

Anything big on the way? Yeah, like I said, I got that song with Paiso dropping tonight or Friday. Dropping that midnight. I got the rest of this tour coming up. What else is? It's on high. Another album at the beginning of the year. Oh, yeah, I got an album coming at the board.

Early next year. We'll say early next year. Right. You know what I'm saying? Working on a lot of shit, really just, you know, like I was saying earlier, you know, just consistency, the same game playing since then, you know what I'm saying? So I'm really just working on music,

staying on top of shit, you know, videos, letting them out label and everybody know that I'm fucking with, you know, that way they can get shit prepared and shit. We just, you ever watch the Power Rangers? Oh, yeah. You remember, you remember, like one of them was the leg and the other one with the arm? Oh, they would come together.

Yeah, that's how we all. We just fucking boom, boom, boom, knock on the house out and just work. Right. So that's really what I'm doing right now, just strictly music focusing on that. I like having fun with it and joining my career. I like when the Power Rangers were fight those putties, like gray dudes. There was just like a million of them.

They just beat the shit out of them and it was just, I don't know, they just like disappeared. Yeah, I digging. Those are good old days. All right, yeah, man. Keep going. Keep going for sure. The music's crazy. Just keep pushing.

You're going to be big. I can feel it. I work hard, man. Like I said, my people around me shit. You know, everybody knows. their position and they understand that it's important right definitely how's you come up with using that as your name what i mentioned o t yeah it was really just o t it was uh it was really on the o tv on the verge you know my name is virgil people call me verge and i was i was a kid and i was rapping

and i said something something something even though i'm on the verge and they were you know my boy was like oh i fuck with that like how you did that on the verge your name is virgil and i played it off like oh yeah i meant to do that you know what i'm saying so it was o tv and then you know what i'm saying i was fucking around with some people and he was just like o tv too i'm just gonna call you o t and uh so that just it just kind of got stuck like that for a little bit i said it in that that playing c song i said that yeah was at that mexican o t and i was just saying that just to be doing you know i'm high as fuck at this time uh you know what i'm saying and uh it just kind of stuck that minskin out of texas like out of texas was just a perfect fit for it out of

of town out of texas yeah but i mean just like in general o t has always kind of been like oh he's o t like out of town okay yeah specifically like selling drugs pretty much i would think i dig it you ever met o t genesis no i haven't but i that would be an epic photo i fog with it yeah he cool just two different o t's yeah i can make it happen no shit oh yeah shout out to him i'll send you right to the crib about oh t we got me you got to meet the other o t what's the show all right we're Appreciate you coming on, man. Yeah, definitely, bro. No doubt.

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