No Jumper - The 100K Track Interview: YNW Melly’s Trial, NBA Youngboy vs King Von & O Block & More

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world in today. I'm back in here with 100K track. How you feeling my guy? Big 100K in his big, you know what's going on with the boy at a goat, Mr. Jumper himself. Mr. Jumper himself. Man, he came a long way since I met you, my friend. I got diamonds now. Yeah, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:17 To say the least. Right. Things have changed a little bit. You're making music now. Yes, sir. Switching up. I mean, you were making music when I made you. I think you were already past making music, right?
Starting point is 00:00:26 The first time you met me, the first time you met me, like, I was. I was in the studio putting the music together. So I was still involved with music. Because you were making music when you were younger, and then you kind of got more into the business side of things. And then at a certain point, you decided you wanted to start making music? Right.
Starting point is 00:00:42 And not even super younger, like what, 18 to 25. That's when you were rapping? Yeah, I just turned 30. So I only stopped rapping for like four and a half years, going on five. After I met with Kodak, I stopped like doing music. It's kind of crazy though, because that's the time in your life where you really started making a shitload of money
Starting point is 00:00:57 and getting your business together, right? Right. That's what I'm saying. Shit, I guess that's how it's supposed to work out. Right. Because other than that, I would have still been a struggling, you know, struggling upcoming artists rather than a pause-ass new artist. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:11 So I guess vice versa it works out for me in the long way. It is kind of funny, though, because it's like you already had an identity, basically. People already knew you. In the city. You're already doing interviews, doing all this shit. And then at a certain point, it's like, in the rap game, you either have to decide that you're going to go for the rap thing, or you like, you know, you look at people like, you know, Coach K and P and them.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah. And they like are bosses in the game. Yeah, it is. And they never felt the need to go for. What made you feel like you wanted to go for that again? I feel like the route is different, though, and the character and the person is different because they, I don't know how much time they committed to them being an artist before there was a CEO.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But I don't even know if they ever read. Yeah, I don't know. But the opposite with me, I actually started doing music at 16. So I didn't, I'm not trying to be an artist. I dropped like six, seven projects on that PIV and on like whatever platform was that platform at that time. Right. Like six, seven songs. So from 18 to 25, all I did consistently was music.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So I really transitioned from 25 to 30. So you could say five years, a year with Kodak fully no music. And in four years with 100K, fully no music. Right. So, you know, just to get life right. Because at the end of day, like, we've got to get life right. I don't care how much you want to rap. What you want to do?
Starting point is 00:02:31 You got to get life right. Do you think if Melly didn't get locked up that you would be rapping right now? Honestly, bro, like, I don't know what I would be doing if Melly didn't get locked up. I bet you would have been so busy, focused on keeping his career in line that you maybe wouldn't have the space to be like I'm going to rap? Well, in a other situation with a normal regular artist,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I would say yes, but when Mellie is kind of different, that man had everybody rapping his mom, his homeboys, his little brother. So who knows? So he was on your ass to rap even though you were on your hiatus. They always was like getting in the studio, getting in the studio, because I'm always freestyling. I walk around writing music and stuff. I'm consistently in the studio with them.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It's just that it's not that time. Like I'm one year in 100K, really two years, but one year with like an artist that's actually had potential. So me and my wife was like, no, it's not that time yet. Like let's focus on the business. Let's focus on the brand because at the end of day you want to, I'm still trying to win it, what I'm doing. And I am winning at what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Me and my partner, you know what I'm saying? Me and my wife, hey, we're winning at what we're doing. So I didn't want to leave that and go chase a hoop dream right now. Definitely. But, I mean, I've told this story a couple times on here before, but I was amazed when I saw you in the studio with Mellie at one point because he went in the booth, did like a long-ass freestyle, basically, just wraps for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Drunk as hell on. Crazy as fuck, just going for it. Because you too, you brought them bottles in there. I had a few drinks that now. He brought, what, three bottles? Three? Shit, don't sound like me. I'm not normally that generous, but that would be pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Maybe. I think we had like three bottles in there that night. It might have been Desto Dubb. He might have brought it in. Wait, no, he wasn't in there. No, I was on FaceTime with him. That's why I feel like he was there. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We had a lot of bottles, which was, go ahead. But then, like, so you basically go over to the engineer once Mellie's done freestyle and you had been, like, locked in paying attention while he's recording. So you already knew kind of like how this was going to look in your head. And so then you kind of said, all right, cut this part out and then like move this part here and you sort of like basically took control of forming his crazy freestyle into something coherent and what you know what's so crazy at him that
Starting point is 00:04:38 same record just came out on my project that just came out the no love and I put tissy on there wow I put tissy on the first verse and put my artist FCG heem on the second word and who was in here a couple months ago yeah and I put another artist DKE y author who would be with um j prince and I'm on there as well Right. So that just came out. But now, like, how that came from is like, right? When I first met Melly, just learning him for, like, being in the studio with him, moving him around, he's extremely talented.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But that time, he just came home. He's young. He's getting money. He's drinking, living life. So sometimes he's getting in the studio, and he just rams on and go crazy. So me just being like, bro, we're not going to waste a day. I know that song could be better. Like, he's like, man, do what you do, track.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You heard what he said, bro. Go ahead. I'm about to go vibe. Hang now. go hang with a little chick he was with. So it was just from doing that. So I kind of was just like, you know what? Let me use this formula since we're already here.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And he's already wasted. He did three songs previously without me. Right. So that was like the last song and it ended up being no love too. It's just a really, like if you're an artist and you're recording, you also have to be thinking in the back of your head, like, is what I just did good? Yeah. Is this good or is this bad?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Like you have to be judging yourself. If you have somebody you can trust so you know that if you say something that doesn't sound good that it's going to not make it onto it and if you say something that sounds really good it's going to make it that's just like basically allows the artist to feel totally free and they can just rap say whatever the fuck they want and the good shit will make it to the end product and bro no lie like Melly didn't even need that sometimes because he just went he would do takes like that but sometimes just some adjustments make songs like that record a little bit more special so yeah right and he's trusted me to do that and i appreciate him for that definitely um
Starting point is 00:06:26 How do you feel, because his trial is upcoming, right? Wasn't it supposed to be very recently and then it got pushed back again? It was upcoming March 7th. I think they pushed it back just a week just to get everything, like, you know. March 7th. So for the record, that's six days from now. Technically it was six days from now, but it pushed it back like another week. Another week.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Okay. So in about two weeks, we'll get to see the trial start unless something else comes up. Hopefully nothing that's come up. I don't think it is. So it should be ready. So you're feeling very, very confident about this. It was always confident about it. You know that.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah. Because it's just, we just used to it. We know, like, how the system is. We know, like, certain things you could do and you can't do, like, and they, they're just trying to do their best they can do. But, you know what I'm saying? Melly's innocent, so. Right. Because it's kind of crazy we see this thing happen nowadays where you have a case.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And then before it even goes to trial, you see the battle in the court of public opinion taking place on social media. We've seen that with the Tory Lane's and make the stallion thing, where it's, like, each. side is just pushing narratives and it's interesting with Melly because the cops have very much like been doing their thing like putting their shit out to the news etc and like really doing everything they can to sort of show what they have in terms of evidence or whatever and then meanwhile we haven't really heard anything from Mellie or his team if I'm not mistaken. I feel like they did they really took that approach because one they are trying to criminalize him so anything they feel like they could put out there that could just make something
Starting point is 00:07:55 shake, maybe turn somebody out or maybe bring new information. They're just going to just do that as a defense, as his defense team. There's not the job to clear, like, everything they put out on social media. It's not a verbatim battle. Like, oh, respond, respond. It's not that type of thing. Their job is to make sure he comes home and that's what they're going to do to their job. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:08:18 So, but because even Beeslam posted a fucking photo of, who was it, Bortland, like up in court? I don't even know what he was doing, but like that was one of the few little glimpses that we've seen. We seen a few little snapshots of Melly on the jail phone and everything like that too. But yeah, I don't know. They got really tight on him, though, after his birthday, because remember he had like that whole with the shoes, things. He had posted on Instagram. They took away some of his, like, privileges with the phone and the things, you know. He had posted some shoes.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He had, like, his Gucci shoes for his birthday on his ears where he was on the phone. No. At the end of the day, I just feel like he gets so much love and something. so much support from the outside. He is a full celebrity in a regular jail, so they're going to always find ways to try to like take away from him just to kind of make him feel regular, I guess. From your perspective, though, how would you describe his mental health or his outlook on everything? He's always like he's always been. He's happy. He's, you know what I'm saying, ready. He's like focused. He's just been really taking that time to work on his craft. He did those three
Starting point is 00:09:21 years he treated like boot camp he wrote over a hundred songs perfected his melodies got his instruments like his image like style like everything that you would want to be ready for when you come out as a mega star that's what he was doing so now he's ready to come home like he's all that stuff is done it's downloaded ready to jump out and be where everybody and continue making history wow for sure crazy do you think uh i don't know like like because when you were in here last time he was on on the call with Drew
Starting point is 00:09:53 and we spoke and I was kind of taken aback of like wow he sounds normal as fuck like he sounds like he never went away like he sounds like he's
Starting point is 00:10:03 just out on the outside yeah for sure that's how he is he's that type of person though he's that type of energy so you could cage him but he's still free you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:11 you know that's one thing I noticed with a lot of rappers is that they could be going through shit like having a case hanging over their head they could be you know like locked up, et cetera. A lot of rappers, like I noticed this was with Bobby Schmertor recently.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's like he wasn't able to be negative about it. Like he said that even when he was locked up, he stayed positive the whole time. He just had that good energy. And when you think about it, to make it out of the fucking trenches. Right. To make it out of a situation where you're not supposed to make it out, you kind of need to have that ridiculously optimistic, positive attitude because otherwise you would end up like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Right. And it's drainful, like, you know, since, you know, I just dropped the Project Mercury, and one of the singles on there is with Melly called Slums. Right. And, you know, just in that whole song, even him being on the phone, you could hear how, like, he's still into this world. Like, he's calling the checkup on you. Like, he's calling the, he's still recording hooks, you know what I'm saying, still coming
Starting point is 00:11:08 with music. You're not going to break Y&W. Melly because at the end of day, he's him, you know what I'm saying? Right. That type of energy. He's going to be good mentally. And it's hard. It will be hard for a lot of people, like all the success, all the money in the world,
Starting point is 00:11:23 and you feel caged. But I never seen that on him. If anything, it made him work even harder in jail and take care of everybody. That's why I was on that record. I'm like, Melly, you're a hero. Like, you take everybody for three years behind the sale, like, with your income, you know, the right way. So he's blessed.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So he never felt the type to feel, like, down. And you feel like, do you feel like you kind of, like, owe him massively? because, you know, obviously your career really got rolling with him at a certain point. Like, like, when you think about your relationship with him, do you thank him for where you're at right now? On the truth, like, the same way I feel about him, he feel about me, right? The only difference is you would think that I really, like, I came in and Melly career, like, because of Melly, I became a massive, massive, like, brand, and I did. But before Mellie could get me to a massive brand, he had to use Mellie.
Starting point is 00:12:16 my brand recently to get to where he had now because I was kind of lit before Melly, you know what I'm saying? Like as far as just being around Kodak the whole time already, people already know in the Sniper Gang brand. I was kind of like a super end with Sniper Gang. And you're a business smarts. Yeah. So I'm assuming he did it at that age because he's so brand-dard. Like for example, before it wind up in Melly, like he, you know, to get on World Star, I had to get him on World Star. I had to like put him in like Little B before he could get the, you know, thug and all the big features, he had to get a little B off my face. He had to go do a couple things, studio, you know, a little money.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Like he has a song with Lil B. Yes. Really? Yes, he do. What the fuck am I in the dark about that? Off his call EP. Y'all check that out. Collect call EP.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And that's his project. That's our project together. I was wondering for a second. I'm like, are we talking about the same Lil B? Yes, low B bass guy. I was thinking there might be like a little B in Florida or something. That's my boy. Hey, shout out to L'B, man.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I'm, do your flowers. He was one of the first, you know, people to kind of just like embrace. That's legendary. Yeah. So now, like, to answer your question, like, for real, for real, like, I owe everything to Melly and, you know, I'm saying, my team for everything because without him becoming a massive artist, and he didn't even get a chance to do it the right way because he's been locked up for three years. And imagine how hard we as a brand had to go hard to work to even match his energy for three years
Starting point is 00:13:41 for him to come home to where we, like, eye to some light. Because he wasn't even famous for, like, a year. No, it wasn't that. Less than a year, right? It was like seven, six months. Jeez. After he got, because we did a year of grinding, that's just the like regional stage. When the year he got starting to get known, remember he got picked up right when he dropped mixed personalities.
Starting point is 00:13:59 He didn't even get a chance to see the video. Right. Because I remember it was like a very fast-paced thing where the album dropped. I listened to the album. I was kind of blown away by the album. I hit him up. It gets locked up the next day. Next day.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And it was like, oh, fuck, like right before the album it was like, you got this Kanye video. video like all this shit because it was just about he just got booked for his first tour well shan tour he was about to perform my sobies for the first time so when melly got locked up it was such it was a pitiful point in his career so for me and my brand and my team we had to use that and keep it going from then to now and fast forward when he's coming home 22 he's able to walk out and see like what we build together so i'm massively love grateful for everything he allowed me and my my team to get where he at, but he felt the same way about us, because we had to hold it down and get there, too, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Were you, like, waiting to put your music out? Were you thinking that he was going to be home, like, a year ago or two years ago or however long, and then you were kind of thinking you were going to start rapping, like, with him? Man, I wasn't even thinking about putting out music because Vaughn was already too hot. Like, Vaughn was he, Von was heying up. So when Vaughn was heating up, it was like when Melly got picked up, like, that time frame, he got picked up at that level he was at. Vaughn was at that level now
Starting point is 00:15:15 getting to where Melly was at when he was getting locked up when he got picked up for the murder. So I was just focused on moving Vaughn. I didn't really start thinking about music again until after Vaughn got killed because I got shot that day could have lost my life.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It was such a horrible situation and they just kind of like reminding me like yo, you got to really do what you want to do and you got to love what you do in life and I always had love for music. So I'm not going to jump out and say I'm a full-time artist all the way because I got a huge brand. I got a lot of artists that I make sure careers is, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:49 and under my vision and care. So I'm not fully all the way jumping in it, but I'm going to drop some music. I'm going to do some DJ Callie, DJ Mustard type styles, put some my artists on records, write the records, you know what I'm saying? Do some hitmaker vibes and stuff like that. So I just wanted, you know, I'm turning 30,
Starting point is 00:16:08 I just turned 30 at that time. So I'm like, I just got shot, just turned 30, you know, let me. focus on other parts of my life that I don't want to live too far. It's part of it that you just had shit to say, like that you maybe weren't going to say in the interview? I always had shit to say. I'm from the slums. I came from sniper gang era thugging, like, doing music, really how you're getting it, you feel me? So I always had something to say. It's just that it wasn't my focus, because my focus was vaughn. My focus was melly. So I always had a different
Starting point is 00:16:36 focus at that time because they, I wanted to give them my awe. You feel me? My full potential, my full work that I could do. So right now, with the brand being where it's at, and I got the staff of 15 plus people with my wife and everybody that helps, I'm able not to be so hands-on. So I could drop some music. I could be in the studio more or do more things on the artistry side.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But in theory, you know, rappers talk about a lot of shit in their music that they would not say in an interview. Right. Melly included. Right. You know, Vaughn included. Yeah. The Vaughn that I hear on tracks was quite different.
Starting point is 00:17:13 different than the Vaughn that I interviewed, you know, because obviously he don't want to get in trouble, et cetera. So he's, you know, he's not going to say some of the things. But then in music, you have some degree of artistic license where you can talk about whatever. And it's not like it's going to be able to be viewed as a confession of something or whatever. I feel like I do got a lot more I could talk about now,
Starting point is 00:17:31 because one, I got the conversations of where I could talk about the past of me just hustling and grinding. Then I got the whole view of being a successful executive. Then I got the whole streets where I really work with some of the biggest gangsters, some of the biggest street respectful artists, even with, you know, Kodak and being around Dirk and around so much people. And everybody know my story as far as like being able to like make things work as a young person. I just turned 30. So I'm still a young nigga in this. So I do got a lot of talk about not getting shot, having money, being married for,
Starting point is 00:18:06 you know, over five years. So yeah, it's about that time. Like, shit, it's time for y'all to hear what I got to say too. Right. I've been talking through my artist, and I'm talking to myself. But do you, is there an extent to which, like, just finding artists and working on music with artists, would that not have made you happy in the long run? Um, I don't think I, it would not make me happy because I love getting money. I love seeing other young men, young women blow up and change their life. There's something, there's something different about being executive than being an artist, though, because the satisfaction you get as an artist is when you get a plaque or when you sell a million record. when you start getting money.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But as an executive, the satisfaction is when you really see your artist like breaking records and getting money and change their life. So I would never not be happy to be an executive, but then I don't want to not be happy and do what I want to do too. Does it feel like you have like a portfolio,
Starting point is 00:19:03 like you're a stock trader? And you have all these artists. Some of the artists are up at times, they're down at times, and sometimes they're just, you know, and sometimes you have one that just takes off beyond belief that all of a sudden all your focuses on that. And you have a portfolio. You know, you have artists that you get involved in when they're nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. And maybe they continue to be nothing, but maybe they become fucking Google. You're right. It is. And I never looked at it like that. But it is. It is just like that. And right now, all my stocks are, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:19:32 at a good place in their career. Even the artists that the world may not know, they're in an okay place in their life where they could just focus on being an artist. So I'm able to be able to do the same. for myself. Right. Yeah, I mean it just occurs to me that there's a huge amount of interest in like Florida street music and I see you as kind of being like one of the people who's done the best job like actually creating a business being early on finding those people. Yeah. No, thank you. That means a lot and I feel
Starting point is 00:20:00 like we are too and Florida and I try to you know boost my own ego I don't think there's nobody else that's doing it like a hundred K and Florida and we're not talking about like the Rick Ross the Maybacks because all the they already there, you know what I'm saying? Even sniper gang, like, I feel like their brain is already established. Right. We're talking about the last two, three years, my era, since you got the new era
Starting point is 00:20:23 in rap, I feel like 100Ks, the new era and executives and management and label and all that, for them, so, yeah. Yeah, no, definitely. Do you have any, like, artists because you deal with somebody street, as you ever have artists who, like, genuinely don't like each other, and you kind of have to be, like, peacemaker slash, like, the person in between on the street politics?
Starting point is 00:20:41 It doesn't happen. Not a lot that you would think of, but there's been some incidents, but it's always been love where, like, I'm the young OG. I'm the 30-year-old OG. So I guess I jump in, like, hey, bro, chill. We're a team, we family, we're 100K,
Starting point is 00:20:57 and an eye, track off your face. Right. And then it usually work out. And if it's really bad, then it's like, nah, then something got to shake because why is it so bad? But it was never to that point. But there are probably artists in Florida
Starting point is 00:21:10 that you've looked at that you thought of potential, but it would have been too much. problems to have them on your shit? Of course, yeah. I would be a lie to see. I didn't. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You have to be mindful. Of course, yeah. Definitely. And I don't want to, I don't want to pick sides. I don't want to feel like, even as an executive, and I want to get this clear too, right? I'm putting in a position every artist to kind of have to pick a side, right? Right. So when you got like a King Von Oblock, then you got a Hot Boy, 438, and you got a Melly, Y, and W or whatever
Starting point is 00:21:42 coalition every artist have, sometimes they forget it's politics and music and business and they be trying to make the brand for sides. And I'm not for that. Like, I don't want to force out on nobody beef because I love all my artists and I love all my, you know what I'm saying, people that I work with. But I'm here to make life being better. I'm here to change my narratives. I'm here to change your narratives. I don't want it to be where it's like we're trying to be a gangster group where now it's like every click is not. bro. I really want it to be work. Let's work. We don't got to like each other. You don't got to
Starting point is 00:22:18 like so-and-so. We're here to work, man. Let's get this money like. Because nobody here would knew each other if it wasn't for this music and getting money like this. Do you ever feel like you're talking to a wall when you're telling somebody like you've got to put the politics aside and just be professional business-wise? It is talking to a wall for some of them. It is. But just because you are wall, I don't have to be a wall with you. My brand don't got to be a wall with you. I'm not going to put that. I'm not going to put that energy.
Starting point is 00:22:42 in my atmosphere. I'm not going to force my staff to feel like that. I'm not going to force individuals to feel like that. And I understand. I'm from the streets. You know what I'm saying? I get politics and I get certain things. Sometimes it's in a no return and I get it. But I'm not going to put that on innocent people around my team and innocent artists that had nothing to do with it. If it's that particular group, all right, we're going to deal with it, how we deal with it, we're going to move, how we move. But don't make it sprinkle to this artist or that artist. I ain't with that. Respect. Were you working with Mouwop before he got locked up?
Starting point is 00:23:14 Of course you're not working with the Mouwop. Oh, Blot. Oh, Blot. That's my Blot. Did you meet him when, like, when, when that Vaughn video happened out there? Or the Vaughan introduced you to him? Yeah, when you knew Moo-Up, I knew Mouap, like, running around with Vaughn for like, you know what I'm saying, almost two years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like, O'Block, my block, like, Vaughn Block, like, they family, like, the way they treat me out there, it's like, I'm not even from Florida. I'm from Chicago. I'm from they block. So all of them is like that to me, not just. Vaughan. Like, Vaughan is the artist that's huge, but I love Moot the same. I love Charles the same murder. I love, feel me, I love BJ.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I love all them boys the same way. Like, even low shorties from that, from the blog or low homies, that's not all the way. I love them because what they came from, like, they come from, where they come from, where they come from, but it's real like that, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Like, you got to have love for the... It's bad in Florida, but over there, it's crazy. We kind of some other shit, yeah. We think money, we think hustles. We think stuff, they think, yo, can I, I hope I don't die today. Like, I hope my dog don't die today. Yeah. Like, that's, you know, that's why I got so much love for them.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like, right. Was there any thought to not putting those Mouab verses on your project because they're kind of aggressive? But really, they've been like that forever. So accused of a crime or not, he was doing that before. And I trust Mouap to have confidence that he's not saying nothing in that records that physically been done. because, bro, I can't control what you say on a record.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Like, because I'm not with you every day to know what you're really doing or what you're not doing. But I get moved up and my artists that trust that, yo, handle your business like a man. Don't come drop this shit in his, feel me? Right. But, you know, not. Of all your artists you ever had, though, have you ever heard a verse where you're like, bro? This is way too accurate. Oh, no, I don't stop.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Listen, I don't been in the studio and stopped verses from like, nah, I ain't going to lie, bro. You tripping. But if I'm not here to catch it, bro, I can't. Feel me? And it's not like you know everything that ever happened in that life. But Adam, all right, you are artists. And I don't, like, not in a situation with you. But let's say I know from the Great Vines that something happened, right?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I don't 100% know because I wasn't there. But let's say, I kind of know. And you say a line there. I'm like, hey, bro, then. Da-da-da-da-da, no. Yeah, you're tripping, gang. Don't do that. I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I'm not just going, it's going to make me money. Yeah. Nah, hell, nah. Because that's a short-term play. Right. You want to keep them out. Keep them free. Come on, but in a live.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Artists is worth way more. That's what people say when people act like the labels want the artist to die. I don't know how we want our artists to die. Listen, the labels do a great job of continuing to make money off an artist once they pass. We've seen it over and over and over and that's just what they do. They've got to try to capitalize on their investment. But an artist is worth way more to their management and to the label alive and health even in a bad situation, locked up or dead. I'm a label in a management and I could honestly tell you what been.
Starting point is 00:26:09 How does it benefit me for Mouwap to be locked up, Melly to be locked up, or Vaughn to be dead, or any of my artists to go or hot boy to catch a charge. No, it don't. It benefits us as a label, and I'm speaking for all labels and management here. I'll be the person to talk for us. Like, it don't help when artists die. Yeah, it's streamed spike, but that's not our fault. That's y'all fault for being fake humans.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And that's like a good week. That's not like a good career. But Adam, is that right now, perfect example, Kanye West, right? he just dropped the documentary you're on Apple Music and Spotify you've seen college dropout you've seen his tapes it's top 25 27
Starting point is 00:26:48 did you think the label called and pressed the button no like we don't do that when the artists we don't tell the fans hey the artists just died go run it up y'all do that y'all go do that like the supporters the fans and do that so it don't benefit us
Starting point is 00:27:04 for that peak point of making money what's the next three four years, 10 years look like. Right. We're trying to win together. We don't win separate, you know? Right, definitely. You mentioned Kanye.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah. You worked with him on the Melly video and everything. Can we talk about what would that was like? Because as I understood it, you basically told him no when he first wanted to hop on the sun. You basically said, we're not fucking with it unless we can have you do a video to it. Even that whole situation was kind of like surreal because it's like the man called that's how unorthodox
Starting point is 00:27:40 he is and you got to love him like he's a genius for like he just called out of nowhere like how you even get this how you even get the number right right like yo hit melly yo come I want to work with you this Kanye so me like bro track
Starting point is 00:27:52 somebody just hit me up and say it's Kanye I'm like what? I'm like see what it is it's really him I guess he knew like some artist that he's where I think it's a consequence oh yeah shot cons or something it's an artist
Starting point is 00:28:06 I forgot what he is like Melly New Consequence? He's from Atlanta. Not consequence. Bras from Atlanta. Like, he worked with Kanye. He's like his artist.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Oh, fucking, why am I forgetting? The fool that we just interviewed. I think he had got shot or something too. No, he had the bad car accident. Yeah, bad car accident. Why am I retarded? Why am I forgetting? You know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Oh, got this interviewed him the other day. You just did his interview the other day? Shot. Shot of print. Right. Sci hi, the prince. Sorry. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So boom. So, boom. So, Meli had a relationship with him just on some like networking. So boom. got his number. So when we flew in, we were like, yo, what's going on? Man, I'm a big fan. Melly, like, damn, that's real. I'm a big fan. You know, I'm in the room.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Melly in the room, we're like, damn, this is Kanye West. Like, this is crazy. At that time, he was more on his spiritual vibe, right? He wasn't really too much dropping, like, you know, circular music. So he's like, we're like, damn, what are you trying to do? He's like, man, I want to do a song. I want to, like, work. Like, I'm really a big fan of you.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So he, so we're like, all right, he played his tape. but his tape is fire he got all type of drums and you know we're going through ideas so at that time we catch a vibe like it wasn't just Kanye track Meli and it was more just like us regular
Starting point is 00:29:18 people at the studio you feel so you know we're good he played like seven of his own songs we're giving feedback then he tells Melly play his song we already in a project rollout like no lie like the songs already pick this is the one that's going to shoot a video Col Bennett is about to shoot this video
Starting point is 00:29:34 this by the happen so that was already planned It's already planned. So, boom, we plan the song. You know, because he played his song. He told melly play his song. We get the mixed personalities, and he bugs out. He, this is me. This is yay.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Like, oh, my gosh, I got to be on this record. He's right about that. No, he's right. And at that time, like, it wasn't so, like how he is now. So we're like, ah, yeah, shit, come on. And I'm like, damn, Melly, bro. I ain't going to lie. No, we can't do it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:05 He's like, why? what happened? I'm like, could this the song on his album, like, this isn't like this is one of the main singles, we got a video playing, like, just pick another record. He's like, nah, nah, nah, track, nah, like, because you know, we don't been vibing for about three hours playing his music
Starting point is 00:30:20 and we know each other, like, we're chilling. You're like, nah, nah, do this record. I'm like, all right, I ain't gonna lie. If you do it, you got to do it all the way, though, like, we're gonna want to shoot. Because the video's already getting planned to shoot. So you gotta be in a video,
Starting point is 00:30:34 we've got to clear the record. like we in the process he's like no i got you got my word he gave me his number i like you know we started texting calling he was he was really on it and he i got so much respect for him because where he was at and where i was at and where melly was at he stood on business like we conier right and he's mely like so man like i respect i got so much respect for him that's pretty crazy to think that as far as i know conier would not have worked with cole bennett until then that like you guys were the tie that brought them. It was the time.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Because they're both like two of the most influential people from the history of Chicago realistically. And no, no lie. Even that experience was wild because like with Cole, Cole was doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But Kanye was so out of this work, like out of tune. He didn't know who Cole. Like, oh my God. Like, I don't think he knew who Cole was. He probably did,
Starting point is 00:31:25 but I don't know, bro. He was. Yeah, he was like, hype, hype. I'm like, I've heard from a few people that have ran into Kanye and like they thought
Starting point is 00:31:33 that Kanye was going to know about what they were doing already? And he didn't know. Which is crazy because there seems like Kanye knows so much about so many things. But he's exposed to every, but honestly, him not knowing about lyrical lemonade isn't. That whole situation was a fight because he's like, oh, I ain't going to lie. Okay, let's do it. Let's have Cole do it.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Right. So I tell Cole like, yeah, bro, like, we're going to still do it with you. He's like, I bet, that's love. Because at that time, we're trying to have relationship with Cole, too, because it's not just this one song. This is a huge brand. He's a dope guy. like, you know, let's keep a relationship with them. We can't just look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:08 It's just Kanye, like, it's not valuable for the future to have a cold bin on your side too. And at that time, you guys are really still working on like breaking now. Yeah. So having the song come on a lyrical lemonade is like so invaluable as like a way to roll it out, you know? And when we, when we got there, we did the whole video
Starting point is 00:32:26 and Ye was like not happy about the video. Really? What was it that stood out to you? I don't know, bro. We shot the video. During the video, it was good times. We all, you know, it was fire. He liked it to work. When he saw the edit, like two or three days before he dropped,
Starting point is 00:32:41 he was more like, nah, I don't like it. I'm like, what? I'm like, what your things wrong with it? And Cole's like on the other line like, oh, bro, I'm not going to lie. What do he want to do? Because he don't like the video. I'm like, bro, what's wrong? Like, why are you on like the video, yeah?
Starting point is 00:32:57 Because, you know, I'm the point of contact. Not no lawyer. I'm talking to him. Like, what you want to do? Yeah, he's like, let's make it black and white. and I'm like, all right, I bet. So I called call, I'm like, no, he said it straight. He just wanted to make it black and white.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Coal like, track. The whole theme of the video is vibrant, green tree, green field. Like, it's supposed to be, like, bright, you feel me? And Melly got locked up. Right. So he didn't get a chance to see the video. So he's counting on me to make that call. And, like, I'm like, I ain't going to lie, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Melly really wanted the video colorful too. We had to go back. I'm like, I ain't gonna lie, yeah. Like, I fuck with you, bro, and I sent him a long-ass text. And I got nothing of respect for you. I even appreciate everything like you're doing for us and Melly and standing on business. But, bro, I'm gonna just rock out with how it is with the video. And if you don't, like, have relationship with us or with me after this, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:53 I just want to let you know I really appreciate it. Like, I just want to make the best move for my artist. He's locked up right now. He can't see it. He had a certain vision for it. I don't want to do that. I'm just going to go with the coast. and drop it and then dropped it
Starting point is 00:34:05 and it became a hit. And Kanye was just like, all right, fuck it let's do it. Yeah, and shit, it was no bad blood, so it was cool. Right. Did he only want to use a couple of the scenes, though? Because I felt like it was only, it only showed, it only looked like a couple of shots. If you want, there's only a couple shots because he didn't want to shoot some of the scenes. Oh, really? Like, he was like, no, I'm not comfortable with the scene. No, I don't want to do the
Starting point is 00:34:23 scene. So we only did too. But to be real, I could tell you the genius answer is like he had a very supervision. Da-da-da-da. I'm going to tell you the truth. He was just being Kanye. He was probably at that time one of the black and white. Are you watching the documentary? Yeah, he's not.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I feel like everybody in the world is watching it. But yeah, it's like when you see him back then, you see someone who had such a vision, but he still had to kind of do normal shit and get along with people and stuff. And now it's just like whatever he wants is just demanding that. If he doesn't like one single thing, he just lets you know. And the thing is I got to really credit Kanye and give a lot of respect to Kanye too, because you would think where he's at with the amount of money he have and the success he have. that he is on that
Starting point is 00:35:05 like dick turdermode where he whatever he do but he's not like that because for him to at that time for him to do the video and clear this and still let you drop he could have pulled a song he could have like did a lot bro just because I'm like I want to go with Cole in this video that don't mean he
Starting point is 00:35:20 had to listen he could have did stuff label wise and not make it happen but he didn't so I don't think he's like that he's just creative and he didn't see the vision but three years later when it's a four time three time platinum, highest stream on Apple Music on his Apple Music thing. You see his mixed personality's number two, one of the Melly's biggest records. I feel like he's seen the vision after, you feel
Starting point is 00:35:42 crazy. So it was dope. What was the Melly was supposed to be on the double Xcel cover? Yeah, he was supposed to be on that. So you already knew that when he got locked up? Yeah, we did. They actually, there's a no-brainer, to be real. Like, that would have been a pretty clear-cut choice at that time. I don't know who was it that time. Was it like that year it was gonna it was it was it was a year where it was it was around that time where he was kind of like that that boy would murder my mind right and when that situation happened I guess due to um his incarceration they never said it never brought it to life and um I guess it's just like never happened but we know he he was chosen so us as a team you know in him he had ex-ssel freshman in
Starting point is 00:36:24 our eyes right you know what a shame right and he just brad if he didn't get locked up It was undeniable. It's kind of scary to think about where it would be at at this point in this career. No, you try to sign them. He was already signed. You guys didn't tell me. I didn't know. You finessed Atlantic out of the, didn't they try to make, they made you guys pay it back, right?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I was in Atlantic. That was, um, APG. I was, um, I fuck with APG. I fuck with, um, bro. Honestly, I was, it was young, bro. I was a young executive. I didn't know what this and that was. I didn't know what upstream and come on, man.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'm just jumping out of this. Basically, I was with Atlanta or with APG. Well, don't say I finessell. against the people because I ain't know. No. I didn't have acknowledged into it. Okay. I'm with APG. I had found Melon through you.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yes. I bring them that song. They're actually hyped on it. I'm hyped on it. You brought to the studio at all. Because, you know, they want me to find artists. I'm thinking, Jesus Christ, I found this artist. This song is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You was hot as hell at that time, too. I was hyped. I thought this was going down. Right. APG cuts the check. They fly you, him, and a couple other people out. The family, etc. They did the smart thing.
Starting point is 00:37:25 They only got you out there for like a day or two so that you can't meet it with other labels, really. Right. Right. They played the game. And so then the ABG hits me a couple days later. Mad is fuck. My contact, they were heated. They go, did you know that Melly was already signed?
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm like, what are you talking about? He would have told me if he was already signed a deal with 300. Right. Listen, listen, publicly through the, you know what I'm saying, I rock with Adam. Adam is my dog, so I want to apologize. At that time, I didn't know. For real, like, you got to remember, like, the language that we first had. And this, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:57 we're working out with 300, you know, we're getting the business right. You know, I'm not going to say I always had the best lawyers and the best team. Like, I'm young. This is first go around. You know what I'm saying? We're getting up there. But the language kind of confused us because he said possible upstream. So we never did a deal with 300.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We did a distribution for a project. And on the language, it says a possible upstream. Now I know that means, bro, you sign to us. If we want you. And if we don't want you, you can go. I didn't know what? Right. So I'm, when you call me, I'm like, man, we ain't signed. It's, we just distribution.
Starting point is 00:38:34 So I didn't know. I apologize. Hey, my bad APG, my bad Atlantic. It's just funny because, like, right now, if you fuck over no jumper for $100, you fuck me over for $100. But that's a nice thing about having a corporate partner is that that didn't. I was like, shit, I went to the studio for like an hour or two that I didn't have to. But, you know. If I wanted to fuck you over, I'd have been like, I, you got finesse.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But intentionally, I didn't know. No, I had no fucking, I mean, it didn't matter to me. It was just kind of a bummer because if I had only ever done one thing with Atlantic, it was signed Melly. That would just be like, he signed Melly. Ironically, well, look, though, ironically, can we say you foreshadowed Melly getting signed to Atlantic now because they technically bought 300 and he's in the Atlantic system? Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So congratulations. You foreshadowed that, bro. A W. Taking us a W for show. We even now. Oh, my God. I wanted to ask you this. It's kind of crazy to think about how when King Vaughn was here, the music was super pop and everybody loved him.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But we didn't know that much about it, about him. And since then, we have seen the internet just go crazy uncovering old tweets, crazy-ass stories that the fans have seemingly been able to put together and stuff. Is it sort of bizarre for you to see basically like the internet working together? to put together these stories about him that may or may not always be true? Man, look, bro, the stuff I'm seeing with Vaughn and, like, the way the world embraced him and brought him to that height, I'm so, like, I'm just so happy and so, like, amazed. And honest truth, like, bro, when I was working with Vaughn and me and V-Roy, you know what saying, this subject is still, you know, still a little tough because mentally, like, I want,
Starting point is 00:40:22 I wish he was here, like, every day to see it and to be there and, you know, really embracing his moment. Well, we was working towards what the world is doing for him now. So it's like, man, I feel like God did what he was supposed to do. And my boy didn't die in vain because he went out. He wasn't that huge. He was getting, like you said, he was getting there. And now, the man is a legend.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like, he's really, he stamped in the game as one of the best storytellers, lyricist, a real deal, gangster, you know, from the streets on the bottom. So the way the world and what they're bringing out, I feel like they're just interested. They're just so intriguing in him. So they're not, they're doing it intentionally. Right, definitely. Are you, are you involved with the project that's coming out? Of course.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Is it coming out Thursday? Of course. It's coming out on Friday. Friday, right. March 4th. Oh, you mean at night. Yeah, 12 a.m. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So I've been in, I never stopped being involved with Ron. It's nine over here on this West Coast. So to me, it's a Thursday night thing. To you, it's a bright and early Friday morning. You're right. You're right. Okay. No, I never stopped being involved. When Vaughn died, I stayed very close to the family, making sure, and showing my support.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Right. The baby mother's making sure, you know what I'm saying, it was good, whatever I had to do, just stepping up as a person, as a human. And then when all the personal stuff got situated and the estate got formed, new people came on board, of course, because, you know, the mother and the brother and the family, you know what I'm saying, is not control of the estate. So they brought, you know what I'm saying? and lawyers and about other things.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And I was blessed, you know what I'm saying? Because it was God's will. I was blessed to be still part of the team and we're going strong. And I've been very, very appreciative of being part of the process and the music and things. I'm just happy to still be part of something that I would want to be part with forever
Starting point is 00:42:12 if this situation did or did not happen. Regardless, me and Vaughn was locked in for the rest of our life. But is he a rapper who had, like, albums and albums and albums worth of music? Or is this like it on this project? albums and albums with the music. Really? Yeah, he was in the studio.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's all he did. Like, he didn't really care to do nothing else but record. He fell in love with recording. Wow. Yeah, Bonk got, like, three projects in the stash. Really? Yeah, for sure. Hard projects, too.
Starting point is 00:42:39 This one, another one, and one more. And then potentially, a last one, if you really do it the right way. Wow. Yeah, he got, like, three, four albums. Is it a concern for you, though? Because, you know, when you look at certain artists, like X, there's been a lot of controversy among the fans about certain projects.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They feel like the label was just sort of scraping for every last dollar. Some of the projects weren't as high quality or whatever. Is that a conversation that happens between you and the family of like these projects need to be this good or else it's not worth putting out? The family really, you know what I'm saying? Like Natasha, she's amazing. You know, she got her grandkids to deal with and she got life to deal with. So she trusts the team.
Starting point is 00:43:22 She put in place someone she trusts on her side as a lawyer, someone she trusts on her side as a day-to-day. And them working with us, the management, 100K, and us working with Empire and, you know what I'm saying, OTF, Dirk, bands, and I'm still being involved on that side, they trust the process and let us really control the music and pick the record. So I don't think we lose.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And it's not just us. Like, you got so much pieces of Vaughn that was there day-to-day, every day. we do a good job is putting the records together. I don't think that happened. Maybe his last album, fourth album, we ran out of music, running out of vocals. We've got to make something shake for y'all for legacy-wise.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But these next two, three projects coming up is Vaughn all the way. Right. It's Vaughn all the way. Definitely. March 4th, history. March 4th. What it means to be king. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Did you drop your project like a week before intentionally? Or did you want to roll them out around the same time? It was intentionally and unintentionally. So when after I got shot and Vaughn passed away, you feel me, I was going through a dark time. That's why the whole Mercury thing came through just like to the rain with the umbrella and the jewelry and all that. It's just being in a place where you're supposed to be the happiest and having the
Starting point is 00:44:38 success that you want. That's when like you experience in death of a homeboy for the very first time or at a very magnified level in a career and your other artist that you love very much like your brother is incarcerated. And then just getting shot physically, getting hurt, wounded for the first time, then being in the public eye. Because reason of fame is different than the new public fame because you got people with narratives and all type of stuff coming at you,
Starting point is 00:45:03 wishing death on you, wishing stupid narratives on you. So it was just that process, I guess, from him dying and from me healing, that was just my self-therapy of just going back to the studio, trying to focus more tune out this world and focus more and being a better me. it just kind of fell to that. I didn't know Vaughn was dropping in March because we never had a date on it because we were just trying to figure things out.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So when I had, and Melly Tribe, I didn't know, we put a Speedy in, so it wasn't originally March. So everything just seemed to align to March. A speedy is a speedy trial. Yeah. Right. So everything seemed to just align to March.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And I had, I've been working on Mercury since like September of last year with Tracks Still with Muapinum, dropped a couple singles, took time. It just happened to just, into March. I'm like, well, I'm not dropping the same day as Vaughn because I would want all that to be focused on him. And I don't want to come after because I don't want to interfere with Melly Trial. And I wanted March already, you know what I'm saying? And it just
Starting point is 00:46:02 lined up with March 1st. I came and then March 4th, Vaughn and then March 7th, Mali Trial. For sure. Does it hurt you in any way to see somebody like a young boy dissing Vaughn from beyond the grave and throwing O Block and verses and shit like that? Does it hurt me? Yeah. Or do you feel like it? just tasteful? How do you feel about that? I feel like that's the new wave we're on. I feel like that's the culture. Like hip hop, don't transform into like ops, smoking and packs.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And I'm not in the forefront of saying, oh, we need forgiveness because my artist was one of the biggest talkers like that. So I get it where they're from. And I don't understand the problem because I don't know where it initiated from. But I know once blood is shed and things like that, people are going to feel some type of way. So no, it don't hurt me. that he's talking like that regarding anything because I feel like that's everybody in hip hop,
Starting point is 00:46:54 everybody want to stop smoking and this and that and everybody want credit and this and be gangsters. And, you know, I'm not, hey, if that's him, that's him. Like, you could push that narrative and anybody that could push that narrative, but I'm going to be pushing the, yo, hustle, success, business, entrepreneurship, staying alive, enjoying your money.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm going to try to put the other energy out while they put in that energy because I'm not on that train. at all. I don't want to be on that train. Yeah. There's nothing fun about getting rich and getting successful to die. I mean, yeah. Or going to jail. That is the crazy thing when you see young boy who basically right now is like staring down
Starting point is 00:47:30 on a Fed case. A 10-year sentence or whatever, how long that might be. And it's still so important for him to be doing this confrontational shit with people in the streets that he has issues with. It's like there's nothing that could happen that would make them actually just be like, okay, maybe we don't need to be doing this. And I want to clarify that situation too, right? too, right? It's like, that situation to me is kind of weird a little bit, and this is my
Starting point is 00:47:55 intake on it, right? You know how you got a young boy, and then you got like, Frado, or you got other people in their particular area that's damn near hard beefing with each other. And there's a lot of casualties, and there's a lot of things that happened that I wouldn't know, that the world wouldn't know, so there's a lot of trauma. So I could respect survival out of the, of a camp, those individuals within that circumference. When a situation like that happened where you locked up, you in a whole different area, your artists or your crew, whatever, didn't even expect, nobody pulled up with a drop and ready to, like, blitz and do nothing to nobody.
Starting point is 00:48:40 It was literally a crazy, unexpected night. So in the turnaround happened where everybody ended up getting fucked up. your homeboy got shot. You know what I'm saying? Your other homeboy career is affected. Other people's involved. So I don't think that's a situation us, we should be kind of glorifying and propelling to negative south.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I feel like that's a situation we should be working together to be like, hey, bro, this was a fucked up situation. And we don't want the next generation or we don't want other people to go through that. Let's try to steer a different path. Because this wasn't your app. wasn't somebody you beefing on your block. So the way everybody's
Starting point is 00:49:22 repping on this and rapping on that to me is show you its entertainment because nobody was, it wasn't like that before nobody died. And it's crazy because when you think about something like Biggie and Tupac, when they got killed, it was a huge change in hip hop. Like all of a sudden you couldn't have a gun on an album cover. You couldn't like, there was
Starting point is 00:49:38 actual shit that happened because people were so horrified by the level of violence. This is a situation where, you know, shit kind of was just business as usual. People using it in the music and stuff. It really kind of is scary for the culture as a whole that people seem so callous.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And listen, bro, I'm not, I'm for whatever creativity you want to be for as a person. Do what you want to do to make you happy. I'm not like I hear saying, bro, I'm saint and this and that. Listen, I ride around bulletproof truck. I run around bodyguards. I ride around people to make sure, you know what I'm saying? My life is in good hands.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's like, and I understand wherever I'm at, whatever situation is. I understand the level of what's going on. But, bro, I'm not going to wake up every day and put my energy into that type of negative. And I wouldn't want a culture and a path that we as young men and young women used to look at and be like, yo, ludicrous and this day, I want to be an artist. I want to live life like this. I want to take my people out of the hood. We're taking the narrative of music from making it, changing your life, being successful, being a role.
Starting point is 00:50:46 role model being the person that people cheer to being killers and being murderers and having and being rich killers like, bro, that narrative is not going to make us win. Legally, motherfuckers are going to be getting locked up going to jail like you see now. And physically, when are we going to enjoy the money and when are we going to enjoy the roots and the labor that we put in if we always trying to like smoke each other or kill each other? Like, I ain't for it, bro. I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like, y'all can have that. Y'all gangster for real. Yeah. Y'all can have that. It's a really bizarre dynamic because the opportunity is always just right there for somebody to go with the lowest common denominator and just say the worst shit. If somebody makes a song and they say, I'm smoking on this dude, like it's going to get attention. I'm going to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I'm going to watch it at least once. And then I'm probably going to know who that kid is. You know, and it's just such an easy ploy for attention. If it works for them and this is what they do, do what y'all do. But you know what works for me? This. and I'm going to do what I do. And I'm going to preach that and I'm going to live that.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm going to spread that with my camp. Hopefully I could change whatever dynamics I'm changing up over here and still be ready to get whatever I'm blessed and supposed to get with. But I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I'm not going for it. I'm not going. I ain't beefing with nobody. My camp ain't beefing with nobody.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I don't got no drama with nobody. I'm defense 24-7. You know what I'm saying? I'm protecting myself at all times and I'm protecting my loved ones at all time. But I don't got it for nobody. I don't know none of y'all. Like to beef with y'all y'all y'all wasn't beefing with me when
Starting point is 00:52:17 Oh my Oh anything on this side When we had zero dollars I guarantee you Now I say if you're from that region And you're getting at it It's the same for you But I guarantee you when we
Starting point is 00:52:26 We had zero dollars And you had zero dollars Or whatever whoever had zero dollars We would have been able to get along Trying to find a way to go Get that bad together Right That's a shame
Starting point is 00:52:35 I ain't tripping How'd you feel And I'm sure it wasn't good When you saw the Kodak got shot A week or two ago I hated that shit Oh that shit gave me flashbacks what just went down
Starting point is 00:52:45 look like the same situation like bro I was like it's the same shit I just and we got shot at the same place in our leg wow really yeah and that was he said that was the first time he ever got a shot after all the bullshit that Kodak been through over the years right and I'm not gonna lie I wasn't out here living like Kodak black but you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:53:01 there's a couple times I could have put myself position to do that but that was the first time like you know what I'm saying shot and I hated that that he was in that position because Kodak is such a like talented is such a generational figure, I wouldn't want him nowhere near that. I want Kodak near
Starting point is 00:53:17 see, I would say Grammys and stuff, but that was a Justin Bieber play for him. Right. I want to see, when I hear Kodak, I want to hear Platinum Records, number ones, sell out tours, buying his mom, $4 million house. That's what I want to hear when I hear Kodak. I don't want to hear my little dog,
Starting point is 00:53:35 my daughter getting shot. Right. I never want to hear that. I mean, outside of Justin Bieber party in the middle of Super Bowl weekend and in like the most populated city in America damn near. Right. Crazy. No, I'm just so happy and blessed and thankful for God and, you know what I'm saying, and the covering for him that he was able to walk out that with minor injuries.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Because, man, ooh, can you imagine waking up the next day? I'm not even going to put that in the air, you know, because that's not what happened. I don't even want to think like that. I went to bed not knowing what was going on with COVID. Right. I was scared. I was staring at Twitter, refreshing it, like, really fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And at certain point, it's like, well, I gotta go to bed. I hope this ain't like, because, I mean, that's what happened with Pop Smoke. Brow, I woke up and found out, like, a lot of people, really. Listen, remember, this is, I'm still traumatized from the divorce situation, so what? No, thank God. Like, yeah, bro, I love you, bro, just, you know what I'm saying? Stay out the way. You know, some really crazy shit, though, too, is I've seen a couple of YouTubers
Starting point is 00:54:30 making videos, I mean, if the cops don't know who did it, oh, yeah. The cops really just need to tune into YouTube, because I've seen some videos where I was like, holy fuck. Like, the cop's job has been done for them. Bray, it's 2022. Every thing has been done like on social media. Like you don't just, hey, guys, find a way to get money.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Find a way to stay out trouble. Find a way to just do positive things. Because, bro, it's 22. Everything is pixelated. If I was a driller, I would immediately be a retired driller because this shit is not a fucking, not a good world right now. Because I think about it when I watch movies and shit or I'm watching a documentary about like, you know, a serial killer in the 70s or the 80s, I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, this is a world in which you could get away with it. Right. These days, man, this shit is fucking bad. It's bad, man. That's why I tune in the Mercury, like, for if this project is dope. Did you hear it? I did. I listened to a bunch of the songs on the way here.
Starting point is 00:55:27 What songs you listen to? I don't know. The ones with Muwop, or the first ones I listen to. I'm like, I want to hear what this fucker's talking about. Right. Yeah, no, it's live. This project is dope. It's just basically putting you in position, like, in a, in like, a, in like, a,
Starting point is 00:55:39 a mind frame of just like real music that we haven't. People do real music. I ain't going to figure like people in out here dropping real music. You got artists that do that. But it's just from my perspective. Because I wrote all those songs, you know what I'm saying? Like other than the Mouat record and track still and maybe like, I think that's it. Those two records are kind of like just A&R to put together and got,
Starting point is 00:56:03 but all the other records I actually wrote myself pen-wise and melodies and my artist just went and did what they did. And then, you know, any features that I got other than to seeing them, you know, those records was written. It's also, like, by me as well, too. So it was very hands-on. Right. So it's very, like, you're going to get a good vibe from it.
Starting point is 00:56:20 You're going to get, like, success, grinding, pacing, virtue, gratefulness. You know, and you're going to get, like, casualties, things like that. So it's like a wholesome. Do you prefer doing the melodic shit or the more rap type shit? I prefer doing like the melodic stuff and not just because it's 2022 because it's just fun just to I can't sing all the way for real but shit with an auto tune it sounds good so I just like to hear that it's like a world that you know I could rap but I like to like do the melodies yeah hey man I'm proud to you thank you bro putting big booze together very few people could navigate the losses that
Starting point is 00:56:59 you've taken and still find themselves in a position to keep growing and doing big things for your team and your family so I'm proud of you man thank you bro I'm You know what I see what you done did here. This is amazing. Like you just told me the amount of time you put in here. It's crazy. Well, we don't have to put like Melly's manager in the title anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:16 It's just a 100K track. I think they get the point at this point. I get it. I get it. You're icy enough. Right. You know, and I want to shout out everybody that helped me with the Mercury Project. All the artists, you know, Hot Boy really participated, heavy on it.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I got like two records for him. Shout out to, you know what I'm saying? Tussie. Dope artists. You know what I'm saying? My artist, he went on tour with him. So I put them back on another record together. shout out to Rico
Starting point is 00:57:38 you feel me Slat Zai B-Slime met a little brother Yeah You know what I'm saying Everybody else Got more heat on the way What's going on him?
Starting point is 00:57:44 He's been dropping Okay You ain't been tuning to B-Sline No I gotta get more tuned down He'd been dropping Fimmee Nah little brus Snapping
Starting point is 00:57:50 And Melly come home You know Joint Project tour I seen a picture At BISLam And I was just like Fuck He's big now
Starting point is 00:57:57 He was a child When I interviewed him Right Ding Was that like two years It must have been at least Because he was 12 He was 12 bro
Starting point is 00:58:06 And he turned my 14. Because he was hot. And he's 100K, man. He's solid. Definitely. So you made the decision not to sign the Island Boys? How do you know I was trying to sign Island Boy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I just popped in my head. I'm like, those are the only popping Florida rappers you maybe didn't have your hands on. I did you know that though. I did call him and try to talk to him and stuff. And he was like, yeah, let's do it right now. You serious? You serious? I'm like, yeah, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But like, bro, you know, there's studio and stuff. How much? How much? There was just two-turned. Really? shit, they're straight. Wow. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:58:38 They could definitely use help in the music category. Hey, listen, bro, anybody, listen, I write really good music, like, for a, like, I ain't tripping on being an artist. You know what I'm saying? But writing-wise, you know what I'm saying, I'm coming through with that pen. So if you need, like- They could use a pen. Yeah, if you guys need good pen game, like, you know what I'm saying, holl at me. And labels, too, like, you know, I don't been in the studios with, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:58:59 I don't help the record with Dirt and Vaughn, with Hitmaker. You know what I'm saying? the one that went crazy after he died. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, being in the studio, like, I can see how artists don't really get too comfortable because I was Vaughn first time, like, getting, like, writers and participate. But it end up being a real dope record and becoming a huge hit.
Starting point is 00:59:20 So any artists out there, like, if you feel like you got roadblocks and things like that, man, holly at me, like, you know, I'm saying, I've been in, you know, I don't, I've been in the studio, so I'll give you the word. Try to get you pop. All the way around the board. Glee. All right. So the album is out.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Mercury. Check in with that. Long live Viroi, Free Melvin. Prayers up. Melly coming home. He is coming home for sure. Y'all got my word on that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Anybody else that you're really pushing hard right now that you just want to shout out or that you got a new shit dropping from? I'm really, really excited about FCGE and, you know what I'm saying, Rico Cartel and also, you know, Wighty Trench with Young Thug. And the whole O'Block, you know what I'm saying? Boss Top, Moolop, you know what I'm saying? The whole O'Block, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:03 All them boys. You can give me a boss top interview? You ain't do a boss-up interview? No, I seen Vlad got one and I'm like, God damn, why didn't I think of that? I ain't got like, consider it done when you want to do it. It's on me. Laura?
Starting point is 01:00:13 Lock it in, boss talk. For sure. Yeah, man, proud of everything you got going. Everybody out there, support the home team, Florida. Go stream and download. Young Florida board just doing his own thing. Independent, too, like Jay-Z back in the day. My own money, spend my own bread,
Starting point is 01:00:27 my own team doing it. Ain't no major stuff. So I'm really trying this, like how Jay-Z and them did it back in the day. It's expensive as hell to. being an artist. It's way more cheaper to be an executive.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I could dress. I've been flat, but dripping every day, which is fun too. I'm on y'all eyes this shit when it's dripping shit. You know what I'm saying? The music videos,
Starting point is 01:00:47 all that. That shit is expensive. So I get it. That's why y'all got to stop this and these labels talking about, oh, this and that. When we put in $200,000 on projects,
Starting point is 01:00:56 it got a hit. And I'm living where I'm talking because I'm doing it for myself and I do it for a whole bunch of artists out there too. But, you know, I partner up with labels and use day bread
Starting point is 01:01:04 but this is me using my own money. I'm like, damn. I see what they're talking about. This shit gets expensive. You still pushing that white boy? Which one? Drew. I'm pushing that white boy is not.
Starting point is 01:01:15 First of all, Drew is forever to go big balls. He's got a podcast now too, right? Yeah, Drew Mania. You do it with him? Are you on all the episodes or just some of them? Honestly, I really wasn't trying to be. It's just that I'm just trying to get him outside of holding a camera and I'm trying to put him out there.
Starting point is 01:01:30 But he got to get used to it, so I kind of jumped in there to help and stuff like that. but I'm gonna lead a podcast world for y'all I can't do everything. Right. That's a good point. When you're going to come on, Drew Mania, support my boy Drew. Whenever I'm in Florida, get me up. I'll take a little trip.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Hey, look, I'm gonna pay for the flights. I'm gonna get the hotel, and I'm gonna get to the driver and take care of breakfast for you, so you gotta come. I'm getting fluid out? Flew out. Let's go. Appreciate you. 100K track.
Starting point is 01:01:55 My God, support everything he got going on. Hop on Spotify, Apple Music, all this shit. Let's go. 100K track, no jump, coolest podcast on the world. Check us out on YouTube. TikTok, Patreon, all that shit. Like, comment, subscribe, nojummer.com if you want to support.
Starting point is 01:02:09 We out.

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