No Jumper - The 1090 Jake Interview: Being a White Blood, The Pno Fight, Making 600k a Year off YouTube

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

Adam sit down with 1090 Jake for a lenghty and in depth interview about his come up, doing time, what he learned, how he changed his life around, fatherhood, opps and more! https://www.instagram.com/1090_jake/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm extremely excited to be doing an interview with possibly my favorite YouTuber at this time. Somebody I've been fascinated by ever since I found out about him. I really believe one of the best voices coming up out of this sort of prison YouTube world, but it's definitely become something a lot bigger than that. Today we're sitting down with the one and only 1090 Jake. Yes, sir. My guy, how you doing?

I'm doing good, bro. I appreciate you bringing me out here. No doubt, man. This is a conversation I wanted to have ever since I found out. about you because I feel like you're somebody where you came up super fast because people just see you. They realize you're the real deal. And there's just like a huge amount of fascination around what you got going on. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So one thing that I haven't really seen you discuss that much that I'm really interested in is can we talk about your very early life,

like all about growing up and everything? You're from Massachusetts originally. Yeah, I grew up in Massachusetts. I was born in Malden, which is like right outside of Boston. It's like five. train stops away you're ever been in Nashua I've never been in Nashville I've never been a Nashville I lived in New Hampshire for a year where not even a year I think it was a month I don't remember because I was so young I was like two we moved there and then our house got robbed right after Christmas and we got the fuck out yeah yeah it's just good for that yeah I had no idea about nothing I thought it was just snowboarding and all that but I found out I actually lived there and and didn't go too good right but for me

I grew up all over the place you know my parents are they separated before I I was born. Right. So I grew up really, it was two different households, and I can't say it was like a bad home, but it was hostile at times because whichever parent I'm with is talking about the other one. So it's a lot of situations. Like if I'm getting dropped off the weekend at this house, I got to go get the child

support check and, you know, they're not even trying to see each other. So it was kind of a hostile environment. It wasn't a bad home as far as like poverty and all that, but it wasn't a happy home either. Yeah, were your parents sort of in the streets or outside like that at all? I never knew anything about any of that until I grew up. So like my mother, nah, not at all.

And my mother, when I was real young, I'd be going living with my aunt. So I lived with her a lot. That's who I ended up moving in with when I went down to Florida. I lived with her because my mom was just doing her thing. She was still young. She was young when she had me.

And my father, I always had a guy, gangster impression of him. So I'm Italian and Irish. So the whole family big on all the mob shit, you know what I mean? And I'm always looking at him like, oh, he must be in something. He must be in something because just the way he moved, he's got a friend on every block we go to, people always pulling up.

I'm just thinking he got a lot of friends when I'm little. Years down the line, I found out he was selling drugs the whole time. So I had no idea about none of that. You know what I mean? But so you never really saw like the impact of that? I never saw anything crazy. I just thought he had a lot of friends. I never seen.

They never exposed me to nothing, so I can't complain and say like, oh, as a kid, I was seeing this and that. I wasn't. You know what I mean? Everything was, but I found out later on. Like, at one point in time, because when I, like, I didn't have a bed, bro,

until I was, like, eight years old. I was on couches, futons, floors, shit like that. Wow. So my people would stay with other people. So my father would stay in the basement. We're going to pull out couch, whatever it is. we had a hallway you would go through to get to the bathroom and that's what the wash and dry was was i think i had toys in there some shit and i found a gun you know what i mean so he caught me when i

found it's a bibi gun but he won't let me like he took it away put it up you know whatever whatever and then i found out what that was so just as i got older you know definitely did did it occur to you as a kid like oh i'm coming up from like a very rough background because i feel like there's there's got to be a moment where it sort of starts to click for you and you realize that your upbringing might be different from other kids. Nah, it didn't click until I went to school. Because I've been to a bunch of different schools. I lived in a bunch of different neighborhoods.

So one thing about me, I don't claim a specific neighborhood because I've always moved. I've always switched schools. So at one point, I went to one school. It was one black kid in the whole school. It was an all-white school. Right. But me, I don't have the money, so I'm not dressing the same way.

I'm not looking the same way, so I'm standing out. I'm not acting the same way. That's when I started noticing differences or like trying to have someone come over my house to hang out and they view my house, they're looking kind of crazy. And then their parents don't want me to hang out with their kid, little shit like that. Right.

And then once I moved with my father got back into the city, I fit right in. Right, definitely. So were you getting in trouble in school and stuff? Do you have that anger that sort of pushed you in that direction? No, I was a class clown. Yeah, I was just, I didn't do shit. It got to a point where teachers wouldn't even give me no schoolwork.

I just, I like to hang out. I liked it because it was fun, but as far as getting in trouble, no, I got suspended a shit load of times. It really got worse, like middle school, high school. Right. High school freshman year, they had me under investigation for selling ecstasy, guns, in the school. So we had a whole little situation going on. So, I mean, you're in elementary school and presumably you're not really selling any illegal stuff?

At what point does that kind of kick in? I wasn't on shit until middle school. Okay. Really? the year before I moved down to Florida. Right. So I was with my father for one year. I moved in with him.

Whatever, whatever. He went his way. He kind of turned on me. So you left Boston, the Boston area at what age? I moved down to Florida when I was 13. Okay. Yeah. And so it's a totally different environment?

Yeah. I moved down to Florida within like two months. I had my first gun down now. Really? Yeah, it was easy. And you hadn't been thinking about getting a gun when you were in mass. Fuck, no. But I came down here and everybody got everything.

It's a whole other world. It's a different culture. Like for me, bro, I didn't have shit in common with people. Like, I didn't like sports. I didn't like this. I didn't like that. So for me, I was attracted to the madness. Right.

So everywhere I went, I sought out people that was into the shit that I'm into. You could have put me in any environment. I would have found the worst people there because that's the type of shit I was doing. And that's what I would connect with people on. Oh, you want to fight? Oh, you want to do this? You know what I mean? So when I went to Florida,

That's what I was seeking out. And at the time, when I moved down there, I was angry because, you know, there was a lot of shit with my parents, abuse and shit that I really don't get into because I'm not really on good terms with them right now, even to this day. But by the time I moved down there, I was an insecure, angry 13-year-old kid that wanted to hurt people to feel better about me. Right. And I kind of, like, lashed out. And when I first moved, I moved on with my grandmother who couldn't control me. Even less of a chance of her controlling you than your parents. But she couldn't do shit.

I wasn't going to school, nothing. Right. Where in Florida did you move again? When I first moved down, I was in the Port Charlotte, Northport area, which is like more South Florida, but I was back and forth in Tampa. Right. So my aunt was in Tampa. I couldn't move in with her immediately.

I was with my grandmother for a year and causing all hell. Then I moved to Tampa. Right. Do you even know about gang shit when you first? first moves of Florida? Yeah, fuck yeah. Okay. You already knew about that. I already knew that up in Boston. So that's really where I had like my first impression on gangs is when I was younger, there was somebody older than me. He was probably like 15, but being young as fuck, I'm looking at him like, oh, that's the big bro.

And he was blood. You know what I mean? So he's telling me, like, we ride and out hanging out, and he's like, oh yeah, you, you that. So from that early age, I'm screaming on that, even though I'm really not. You know what I mean? And then I go to Florida, I'm still in the same shit, but the gang shit down there, that's what was more official and in your face. How established was the gang shit in Boston, though, at that time? It's not at all. It doesn't seem like it would have been much. It isn't even to this day.

So Boston ain't really on the hood. It's all hoods. Right. It's not really gangs. You're going to have, you might have certain gang members within certain hoods. You know what I mean? Because you even got, like, out here, the stones, BPS or whatever, they in Boston. Okay.

You know what I mean? And that's all west side. So. But there's not a lot of examples of that of gangs that are out here that also exist in Boston? No. Outside of Massachusetts, they got Asian boys. They got tiny rascals. A lot of the Cambodian gangs that started out here, they migrated a mass.

Right. They got GDs from Chicago, all type of shit. But it's not in the city of Boston. Boston is strictly hoods and streets. Right. So like for me, when I moved out, the street I was living on, just that one street. have multiple different hoods. Every single, you know, you got one corner store for you.

The next corner store is someone else's shit. It's crazy because I lived in Lull for a year going to UMass Lull when I was 19. And when I think back on that time period, nobody was talking about like black gangs or like, oh, you got to be scared of this dude or whatever. It was the Cambodians that people were scared of. Like if you were at the skate park, the person who was going to rob you at the skate park or whatever was a Cambodian dude for sure, which is kind of strange to me at the time. Because now people act like when I did that stupid.

young boy, people are shocked. I'm like, I was kind of used to that. They be getting it in. Yeah. They demand respect and they'll fuck some shit up. Big time. They do their thing. Okay, but so how do you kind of find your groove in Florida? Well, like I said, I was attracted to the madness. So by the time I hit Tampa, just seeking out the people I was seeking out, I got into the crowd, you know what I'm saying? So on a game tip, it wasn't like I had applications and it was like, oh, you can be a crib, you can be a this. Everybody around me was blood. Tampa's a blood city. We got other shit, but Tampa, you know, it's blood. That's what it is. It's a red city. Right. So I got around the homies and shit. I've already been claiming this

shit anyways, and I wasn't even officially, you know what I mean? And then I got put on. Right. How was that? I mean, it is what it is. You got to go through it. Yeah, but there's levels to that shit. Would you say it was a 10 or is it a, was it a light one? No, mine was wild. I'm white. So it's different. A lot of people like, oh, you don't, Ain't no white bloods, ain't or this, ain't all that. They really ain't. Right. So at this point in time, not to sound no type of way,

but about the biggest known white blood that there is, it's not common like that. It's not. So for me, I had to show out. Right. You know what I mean? But at the same time, yeah, I got my ass. When you think about it in retrospect,

do you feel like you always felt like you had to go harder because you were white or you had to really sort of overcompensate because you didn't want anybody trying to press you? I mean, it ain't even, you gonna get pressed. Like, that's what comes with the territory. But everybody you meet, you're gonna have the same reaction, bro. And it's just like, even when I jumped on YouTube, the majority of the people that's talking shit,

they're not in nothing. It's random, fat white guys that sit at home, 30s, 40s, 50s, and talk mad shit. I don't know why, but the sober community hates me. All the ex-drug addicts and shit, they're like, oh, you ain't on nothing. I was over here. I was like, bro, worry about the sobriety.

Don't worry about me. But it's like, a lot of people People will just look at it like, oh, white, this, nah, he ain't on that. Yeah. But then they talked to somebody. So there was a situation when I was in prison. The homie came through. The homies are telling him who I am.

And he's like, oh, ain't no white down move. Is it, oh, yeah? Go tell him. He said, what you mean? Nah, go tell him that. Right. He ain't want to tell him that. So, you know, that in itself, it speaks for itself.

You know what I mean? And it puts you in kind of a weird position where it's like you have to sort of express yourself way more aggressively just to defend the shit that you are saying. I'm not even like bro I'm I'm to myself I'm quiet you know what I mean now yeah well even then bro like I wasn't I wasn't really like a loud mouth type of like just get loud and seem aggressive nah it was just when it came down to doing things I did things right and the things that I did the word traveled on it so it kind of built this own

reputation yeah that's one thing I got from watching some of your older interviews is like oh Jake learned at a very young age that he had to just not wait for somebody else to be aggressive to him. He had to be ready to just go for it. Not let them get the drop. I started just smacking shit, especially when I went to prison. Right. You just got to do what you got to do.

And you were doing youth offender shit or whatever, so you were getting locked up throughout year? Nah, so the youth defender thing being confusing a lot of people. So I went through Juvie. I did the Juvie thing, but I went to prison when I turned 18. Okay. So in Florida, we have,

youth offender prisons. So people will be like, oh, that sounds like kids, shit, da-da-da. The youth defenders in the Florida Department of Corrections is the most fucking violent prisons you're going to be in. Right. So this is state prison. We're going to state prison. This isn't, we got our own section now.

We go to the same reception as the adults. We're on the same transfer buses as the adults. Youth Defender is 14 to 24 years old. So they put us in our own dorms and we tear it down. It's just non-stop violence. So when I got sent to prison, I wasn't sentenced as a WIO, but I was reclassified as a WIO. So I ended up having to go to the WIO dorms, and it's just, it's on-site, non-stop violence.

It's gangland, and the second you get in there, if you've never seen violence before, it's a culture shock. Because you're seeing it on a level that it's fucking insane. What were you seeing at first that really just blew your mind in terms of what went on in the air? What, when I went to prison? Yeah. Oh, when we had to strip naked. Okay. Yeah, we had to get off that bus early as fucking.

morning and you know there was a there was a dude in a wheelchair who had no legs they told him you get negative it taught him to strip the fuck down yeah he's looking at him like what the fuck yeah and uh there was a CEO in Orlando I don't know if he still works there but his name 6-6 big black dude and he's supposedly a Crip the CEO so there's certain COs that are known at certain spots for fucking inmates up smacking the shit out of you, whatever. So he walked up to a Mexican that was standing there, mind of his business.

We all dick out and everything, just standing up looking straight ahead. So he had his property or whatever. He dumped this shit on the ground, whatever, whatever. But he ended up saying some racist-ass shit, and I didn't expect it to come from him being that he was a black CEO. You know what I mean?

So he's asking him, oh, what's in your property? You got a towel? He said, no, sir. He said, why don't you bring your towel? He's like, confused. He said, how are you going to get all that wet off your back? And we just, like, damn. Like, they're not sparing nobody.

Like, they're getting on it. It's not even, when you get the certain spots with the white COs, it's like real Ku Klux Klan, like, raccoons hanging off of nooses. That's their keychain. Shit's different. Because it occurs to me that, like, if you had a clean bill of health, if mentally you were all there that you would not put yourself into this environment and want to work in this shit.

Or do you feel like once you're in there, drives people crazy and makes them kind of start to imitate the prisoners that they're around almost. It's like, you ever seen, like, Texas Chainsaw movie? So it's like the whole town was in it. They were all the killers. So in certain parts of Florida, they got these little raggedy-ass towns. The whole fucking family works in the prison. Right.

The nurse is the wife. The fucking warden is the uncle. So you hit a CO, you liable to get sent to someone. where there's nothing but their family and they're gonna take care of all that. So what's like their communities really function off the prisons. They thrive off the prisons. That's like the main job. If you live in that little country-ass area, the main job for you there, the best career opportunity is working in the prison. And it's just once they in there, they taste that power.

Because bro, the CEOs are slapping the fuck out of everybody. Right. Adults, youth defenders, it's worse for us. The youth defenders, we get fucked up. Like, we get punched on that shit, they're not teeth out. But there's certain spots like Lake Butler was known for having a jar with gold teeth. So if you came through from Miami, from Orlando, because Lake Butler is known for the KKK. You can look this shit up even now. Like recently, KKK getting locked up, undercover stings inside of the prisons. They were killing people and burying people at the prison and building buildings over their bodies. They put you on a permanent transfer list. So when you call to find out, hey, where's so-and-so at?

I'm looking them up. I can't find him. He's not writing me back. Oh, he's in transfer. but we can't tell you where he's at. But he's dead? Been dead as fuck. And how are they able to pull that off for 10 years for real? Because the whole Florida Department of Corrections is corrupt from every single level up, from the CEOs to the wardens, to the inspectors to the fucking. Wow.

Yeah, you're more likely to die from the CEO than an inmate. Wow. It ain't like out here where everybody's just getting stabbed with death. No, they'll beat the fuck out of you, kill you, and then put it on an inmate. Because, like, I've seen cops get violent with people. It's usually in response to the person, you know, while and out. or like flipping out on the cop or even hitting the cop or whatever. But like even just showing up at prison and just seeing a fucking cop just deck a person in the face would blow my fucking mind.

Like, oh, we're really in a very different place right now. Yeah, how you think I felt when I got the shit slapped out of me. I don't know how... How long it take before that happened? Uh, I mean, when I first... I didn't get hit by a CEO until I got to my first prison. The reception center, it wasn't on nothing. So one of the CEO was there was a guy.

King. He was fucking with us heavy, so he was giving us like K2, weed, tobacco. We smoking. We really, like, ran that shit. But, um, first time a CEO fucked with me was when I hit Sumpter, C-I. So Sumpter, they ran it like a boot camp. So we had a sergeant named Sajon A.B. He got the fucking military hat on and everything. And the C-Os are giving us warnings. Like, when I hit reception, let me rewind a bit, when I hit reception, before I walked into the dorm, C.O. comes up to me. I'm the only white kid. See, he's like, hey, listen, it's a white Cio. Hey, listen, they're going to try you in there? Do what you got to do. I'm not telling you to do nothing crazy, but do what you got to do. I'm just thinking

to myself, why the fuck is he telling me this? Is it that bad? You warning me right now? I don't know if he's just on some white guy, white guy's shit, but I looked in the window and ain't nothing, but black face is looking back at me. There ain't no other white people in there. So I get in there. Hey, come to the table first quarter. Like, Everybody rushed the table though. Who you is? Where are you from? What you is?

And then I knew somebody that was in there and we kind of cleared the whole situation. The first prison, though, they open up the bus. Sergeant A.B. comes up. He peeks his head and, hey, y'all can hear me? Yes, sir. He's whispering. We're like, what the fuck?

He said, I'm going to give y'all the five to get the fuck off this bus. You understand? Yes, sir. Five, four, three, two. We got to jump off. So we're straight like military action. He's slamming us against the fences,

is picking us up, slamming us on the floor. They take us into this room. They tell us to run into this dark-ass room. Right. Can't see nothing in there. I'm the first one lined up. They tell me, go. I said, fuck, no. Told the kid next to me. I was taking his food at reception. I tell him to go in there. So he runs off in there, right? He runs off. The seal stops. Now,

I told you to do it. So I run off in there. The second I run up in there, I get picked up, slammed on my shit. Boots is kicking me in the face immediately. And this is a whole system that they've designed to basically demoralize you and make it so that you're less likely to act out? They want you understand who runs that shit.

Right. So they beat the fuck out of every single one of us, one by one, got us all in the same room, and then made us line up, dick the butt. Wow. So they tell you, dick the butt. Like, you got to put your dick up on his butt, and y'all like this, in line,

and they come through, they'll walk up, chin checking shit, like, fucking us up. There was a female, she had a broomstick. She's poking inmates in the ass with it, saying we're going to get fucked when we hit the compound. So that's something that was happening a lot was kids was getting T-O-Hs, and they're getting fucked with broomsticks and shit,

and it's blowing their guts out. So they're trying to extort you type shit. So the extortion at Sumpter really throughout the YOs it's at an all-time high. So a T-O-H is to test the high. Right. That's how they're going to test you. So like if you were Chico,

if you're any type of Hispanic, they're going to do it to you. If you're black, whatever gang you're in, they're going to do it to you. If you're white, anybody's going to do it to you. So the rough definition of that is basically, it's like, because you gave one example in an older interview I saw where you were saying

that you pulled up, you're a blood, and then you had like a bunch of dudes run up on you basically they were bloods but they were saying they were crips trying to press you you or i don't know if this actually happened to or you were just giving an example no i think i was giving an example we used to do that shit to people so you know if there was a crib or a blood or whatever we would act like we're the opposite shit to see what they're talking about right and we're saying the most disrespectful things we can come up with right you know what i mean because we used to smash shit so it's like we would get someone that was really in the game and flip them and have

them write out all their little lingo knowledge whatever So when one of them come, we can check them. So we checking you on your crib shit to find out if you know what the fuck you is. And if you don't know, it's easy to finesse you. Right. And then, you know, if we can finesse it without violence, we're getting that food off you. But if we gotta apply pressure, we apply pressure.

So yeah, we don't want you to feel comfortable. It's not like, you know, now that I've gotten into YouTube and I hear how other politics are, it's not like out West where your homies are gonna embrace you, get you right on the food, check your paperwork, that. No, we're not on none of that. We're not on none of that. We're going to find out how the fuck you're going to stand if you're going to adorn by yourself.

Right. Because if you get put into a door by yourself and they're like, oh, ain't no bloods in hand. You're like, okay, you folded. You just folded. You know what I mean? So we're going to do that first. And then if you fuck up, we're going to get you. Wow.

That's crazy. So if you show up in prison and you already have like a street rep, could you be embraced automatically? Basically, if you are at random, we've got to figure out what's going on. If you run into the right people or if you got. somebody you notice in the dorm with you, you're good, but it could really be dorm to dorm because you might get put in a wrong dorm. But so this first one you got put in is all black dudes, so it's like, it's not like this.

No, there was white kids in there, but they were sitting on the floor. You couldn't see him. Really? Yeah, they couldn't sit on the benches. So that's just straight bitch status right there. So when the CO saw me sitting on the bench, that's when they knew like, oh, this is somebody, who the fuck is this? They called me in the booth.

They're trying to G-chat me. One of the CEOs was talking about your blood. Really? The COs, bro, like the COs gang bang type shit. So it's like, if you meet one, that's that, you might start getting hooked up. And we did start getting hooked up. Wow.

But we were really getting hooked up off the king. The king seal. Okay. He started bringing that shit. Why was he fucking with you guys so much? Well, the houseman that ran the little unit that I was in was a Latin king. So just off the strength, they both kings, he started supplying shit. And at the same time, we kept shit in order because we was the most violent one.

We were 18 and under. Right. So you had. 18 and this is this is at central florida reception center it's h dorm hell dorm hotel dorm whatever you want to call it uh there's three different wings to it so one is 18 and under the other one's 19 to 20 and the 21 to 24 21 to 24 look like old men they sit in there drinking coffee then they're not nothing because they're already been through it and there's already like four or five of them in there like there's no one in there 19 to 20 that's a little decent couple of them

got skies on their faces because they already went to a prison and they switch in prisons 18 and under we're the most vicious because we're trying to make a name. Right. So he, the, the king's CEO used to basically

let us run the house. So it's like, if somebody wants to fight, he would open the mop closet. We get in there, we handle that. He just didn't want us cutting anybody.

As long as no one's getting cut, nobody's getting poked up, we can handle it, how we handle it. And I became a house man. So when Newcox used to come in, we get to pop their cell like we're cleaning it and we're running down on them,

beating them with broomsticks and getting whatever the fuck we can get because we're all starving at this point. I don't want to sound like I'm a fucking, you know, but we're hungry. None of us have food. Nobody ever sent me food when I was in prison. I got food like two times.

So if you don't have money coming in from a family member or whatever, it's just not enough food so everybody's kind of in this constant state of scarcity? You can't even eat everything that's on the tray. It's not all edible. And then at the same time, like the milk be spoiled

as fuck. So it's really on some shit. Like if you're not gonna fight about that food, just give it up. Now that you've talked to like a million different people who are in different prisons all over America, does it stand out to you that Florida might actually be the worst? I don't think Florida is the worst. I would say probably out here. Really? Yeah, because I don't want to wake up and work out every fucking day. You know what I mean? You could be lazy in Florida, but the thing about it is the politics out here is respectable. Right. It cleans a lot of shit up and it keeps shit organized. Right. You know, so California got the S&Y shit, the PC shit,

and that's where all the madness is at as far as, like, sex offenders, the weirdos, the snitches. Florida, we're all in one spot. There's no separation. There's no PC in Florida. Bro, PC is a confinement status. Right. You just go to the box.

Like, if you checked in on me, bro, and you went PC, I could go PC, or he could go PC, and then he going to get put in the cell with you, and then what's going to happen is I'm going to take an envelope. I'm going to write it out in his name, but I'm not going to put, it's going to miss the zip code or something. So what happens is the letter goes to the mail room and then they send it back to him who's in the cell with you. You don't even know that he knows me though.

But what I already did is I took a razor blade, broke it in half, put it behind the stamp. So when the letter comes back to him, now we got a razor, now he's cutting you up in the cell. You can't get out. So you can go PC, but we're going to get at you. There's no separate compound for you. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, you're just going to get sent to another prison. So were you having fun doing all this when you first got in there because this is kind of like, you know, you're someone who's a track. to madness. Once you get into this environment, I mean, this is like the most madness you can imagine. This is it. Like, it isn't, the only step under prison is death.

It doesn't get worse than that. Prison and you die. You know what I mean? So when I was in there, you can't do nothing but love it, bro. You can't just sit there and be fucking depressed. Like, this is the next three years of my life. I'm 18 years old. We got to turn up. And I mean, there's a lot of good times. Not everything is

violent. You know, you meet a lot of solid people, but the most solid people I met were at the most violent places because that's what people's true color show. When you meet somebody that you know was willing to share blood about you, whether it's their own or fucking someone else up, it's a different kind of vibe. You know, we got one soup with splitting in two ways. Like, there's a lot of good times, but it's a lot of fucked up shit.

And the thing about it, mentally, is in there. You're just consumed by madness. You don't know or you don't understand how it's going to hit you until you get out. I didn't. I was fine in there. You know what I mean? Like my first year, I got cut. I got poked up.

I got hit with a brick. My first prison, I cut a kid in the cell with me. So I dove into it head first. I got into, I was getting hit up. I was hitting shit up. When I got out and was in a peaceful environment, I'll be sitting with my daughter. That's when shit starts coming back to me and starts fucking me up. But I never had an issue when I was in there.

Does it fuck you up just thinking about like this lifestyle you have now where it's like you're so able to remove yourself from? any kind of risk. And it's got to be strange to think, I'm the same person, but I was in that environment doing this shit. And now I'm chilling in my house making videos all day or whatever. I mean, it's crazy when I think about it,

but I don't feel like I ever left it because I still, like, struggle with a lot of that shit mentally. I just don't really talk about it. So a big pot of me changing my content from me going to the prison shit. Not only was the prison community getting played out with just everybody's doing it, You can only hear the same shit so many times.

Like, I feel like I got in at the right time and got the fuck out. But another major aspect that that was all the dreams started coming back to me. Really? So it's like... From just dwelling on it and talking about that shit so much?

Yeah, so, you know, when you're a kid, when you're whatever, before you've ever had sex, you've dreamed about getting something. You know what I mean? But before you actually get it, you wake up. Because your mind can't probably. something you've never experienced. If you fall in your dream before you die, you wake up.

Right. You know, so I never dreamed about super violent shit until I started doing it. And that's what started fucking me up, bros, when I started telling these stories, I would have these dreams where either I'm hitting someone up or they're hitting me up. Like, I'm just sitting down getting stabbed repeatedly

or I'm watching it happen, and I can't stop looking. I have to watch it. And the thing about when you experience shit like that, that, it ain't what I'm seeing that fucks with me. I remember the smells that came with it. The smell of the blood, the sounds of the person gurgling on their shit. You know, it's shit like that that fucks me up and then I wake up and I'm like breathing heavy and like, damn, you know? Like that's, now is when these things come back to me. So that's, that was the main reason why I really wanted to get off that shit and try to find another avenue because I have to relive it

when I tell it. See, that's interesting because I feel like a lot of guys get into street shit or whatever, in part because they want to sort of prove that they're able to do all this shit and that it won't be that big a deal to them. But it's interesting to see you at the point. You can actually be honest and acknowledge that, like, yeah, slicing somebody's shit open, as tough as you might be or as much as you might have felt like you had to do that in that moment, I mean, there's going to be a memory of that that's going to linger in your brain.

And realistically, when your head is clear, when you're having a nice time, it might just reappear, you know? Yeah, every sky you put on a person mentally scars you. And I didn't understand that until now. So, you know, at the time, like the first kid that I cut, I told that in the first interview that I did, I slid his whole shit. I hit him three times on his throat. Had no idea how the fuck it was going to be. I didn't know if it was going to start shooting all this shit. None of that happened.

But once I did that shit and they moved him out of the cell, I'm celebrating on the door. All my homies are celebrating on the door. Like yeah, he just got one. And then when I got popped, I got popped at the next spot I went to. Right. I get hit. I'm sitting in the cell for three days with blood-soaked fucking uniform on. Like, they didn't give me a new uniform or nothing.

They stitched you up or now? Nah, they glued my face shut with a hot glue gun. Right. So the kid that cut me, he did it. Why did he do that? The kid that cut me? Yeah. Well, at the first prison we went to, he was supposed to be a blood.

We're at the reception center. Right. And he was in the cell with a Mexican that was supposed to be a 13. So out of nowhere, the 13 folds his flag, and the next day we wake up and we get sent to the prison, somehow he's a blood. Something like, you just made him a blood overnight.

I don't know where? How the fuck that worked? So, you know, when we hit the dorm, I was like, hey, bro, both y'all folded. Neither one of y'all nothing. Like, fuck y'all, you know what I mean? Right. And the Zos, who we were into it with,

they came up to me, and they were like, why would you fold your only two brothers that's in here? Because now it's just us versus you. And I told him, I'd rather be one strong to 500 weeks. Fuck them. If I can fold them, you could fold them.

But you ain't going to fold me. Right. You might hit me up, but I'm going to tell one of y'all that's up too. You know, so I folded him at that spot. When I went to Lake Butler, he was already there because he hit the compound. A Crip hit him in the face with a brick and broke his nose. So he was at Butler not for transfer, but for medical. They had a nose casting everything.

So when I get the Butler, the GDs and eye block come up to me. They're like, oh, what you is? I'm blood. flags and no the fuck we're not why the fuck we tie flags you know people are just like random gangs will click up on some whatever shit I wasn't on that though right so they're like oh you got a brother in here they point to him he comes out of his cell so you are you are anti-piece you're like nah nah y'all are getting along I don't want anything to do with that it's just shit that makes sense like why the fuck are we tied flags right for what who who's sanctioned

like who for what you want to know the details yeah I told them I don't want to talk to the soldiers I want to talk to the heads bro right y'all could have just started gang banging why the am I talking to you? I'm turf made. I went to prison banging. Y'all just started doing this shit. So you don't even know nothing. You just learn how to shake up and this, that, and I'm not even trying to talk to y'all. Y'all just started this shit. I've been doing it. So I see him come out. I'm like, he ain't nothing. I just folded him at the last spot. Where it spreads to the blood on the other side of eye block that I don't got contact with. He's supposed to be running the situation. He fucks with dude and he didn't know the story. So when I'm in a cell, the head homie comes

over, it comes to my cell. Oh, you got a problem with such and such. Come to find out who I'm speaking with. It's from Tampa. But we never got that fire because when he came to myself, he was already on some aggressive type shit. All right? Well, yeah, fuck him. And if it's fuck him, fuck you. If you rock him with him, you know what I'm saying? So he put a hit out. And he did it in front of my face. I'm in the cell. I can't get out of the bars, but he's like, hey, I got 50 on his head right now. So I'm yelling out who's going to take the hit? Everybody's quiet. That next morning when we all lined up. The GDs had it. The GDs was in front of me and behind me. We going down the stairs and going down the stairs. I had a homie behind me. He wasn't blood, but he was fucking with me.

I love it back, whatever. Start going down the stairs. Boom, I get hit. And I just felt something touched my face. I didn't feel pain. Nothing. It was just like this. The quote that you had was that you felt air somewhere you had never felt air before. I felt that air inside of my fucking head, bro, like in my face. Yeah, that scared me a little bit. I didn't feel any pain and nothing like that. I touched my shit. I knew I got hit though. So I pulled out the razor. And at the time, like I told this whole shit too, but my toenails were fucking infected from the last prison because of the small ass boots they gave me.

So my shit bleeding, pushing, I can't walk. Medical basically told me to go fuck myself, then I treat me until I get to the next spot. So I can't move, I can't run. I'm basically stationary. So when I get hit, I turn around. I'm like, alright, let's go blade for blade, you know? So he, I only got a couple steps down.

He shoots off and goes into the booth where the COs are at. So if I walk in there, they're gonna grab, me up because I just got hit. That's a no, no. That's dishonorable, I would assume, you think? I mean, that shit pussy, bro, but you got to get your lick off how you get it off. That's the way he did it. That's the way he did it.

I can't take it from him. He got me. My homie blasted his ass though at the next spot with a box cutter. Really? Everyone that hit me got hit. Because you got taken out of there soon after so you weren't able to actually get revenge? Man, this shit was fucked up, bro. So I ended up going down on the bottom of the steps.

There's a seal with the steps. We got to wear a hat. So I put the hat on as I'm coming out. Right. So he doesn't see all the blood and shit. out and I'm hiding behind the pillar. So I got the raise in my hands. So when he comes out, him a splack his ass as soon as he comes out. He walks out with the CEO. Walking next to the CEO and everything, like they're fucking best friends. I'm surprised it was a hold of hands.

So I'm like, fuck it. I can't do nothing because I can't chase him. My feet are fucked up. I can't catch him. I was never fast anyways. You know what I mean? So I had the understanding that I just got to take my lick. I throw the raise out. I get in line. My shit leaking everywhere, bro. Like everyone's looking back at me. I'm bleeding all over the place. And he's a couple feet behind me in the line. I just look back at him like, yeah, all right. You know what I mean? So I walked in the child hall.

Everybody stopped eating when they seen me. The COs pulled me. And they took me to the little, the little nurse thing. They had me sitting in the hallway. With a diaper on your face. With a diaper. They gave me a diaper for the blood. Right.

And I'm sitting on the bench with the dude that walks. He works in the, it's like a little unit they got in the back of Butler where everybody's about to die. And his only job is the bad bodies. This is like one of the most lifeless looking people I've ever met. No emotion, no expression. He's just telling me how he bags bodies. You know what I mean?

And they hot glue my shit. The captain come, the white shirt. He's like, oh, you want to go back to the dorm? Like, yes, sir. He said, what happened? I said, I tripped and fell on the stairs. He said, all right, in confinement. So they stuck me in confinement.

Not on no PC shit, though. I went under investigation. But I was already pending transfer. Right. So I'm already on my way to another prison. So within three days, me and everybody I got sent there with, we all went to Lancaster CI. And that's how I have the picture of me

with the fresh three-day cut on my face because every new compound you hit, they take a picture. So I used that picture when I started my channel. It's the only picture that exists in me at 19 years old. And you can see the seven-inch cut. They measured it. You're falling asleep that night

and you got this fresh cut in your face. What's going through your head? Oh, I was beating my dick in the cell. Yeah, I ain't had no bunky. So I'm in confinement by myself getting busy, yeah. I wasn't stressing that shit. I was just thinking about how I'm going to get them back. Right.

Yeah, I mean, I already got hit. I'm looking at it in the thing. I'm like, God damn, I hope it don't scar up this bad. You know what I mean? There's just got to be something in your head where it's like you not only did something violent to me. Like, you could have punched me in the face, but you scarred me with something I'm going to have to look at every day for the rest of my life.

And there's a good chance that if I don't get you soon, then I'm never going to get you because realistically I'm not going to be in prison for the rest of my fucking life. I might not even know who you are or where you're at. once I leave here. You want to know how I really looked at it. I looked at it as being blood and shedding blood for those that shed blood for me. Like, we're in the field, bro. We're going to, you know, it's going to come back and forth.

I'm going to get hit. Someone else is going to get hit. Big homies have gotten hit in the past. It just, it is what it is. As long as you stand on your shit, it's a part of the game. Right. So my whole thing was, when it's my turn, I'm going to get them back, you know? But I never got them back.

Right. I personally didn't get them. But someone else got them. But how much did it mean to you that your, you're, you're, was able to take care of it. Oh, that was my dog. Like, if that had not happened, would it still haunt you? No.

Because I've been... Past it now. I don't got hit up before by someone I never got back on. Really? You know what I mean? But so the homie that cut him after I got cut, I got fired up in the back of my head. I got a patch missing.

I got hit by a zoe. He put a brick from the basketball court, the asphalt inside of a sock. It hit me over the head and put like a bullet hole in my head. Just because of, because of specific issue with him or was it? No, we were beefing with the Zos. We were at war with the whole compound. So the same homie that cut the other one, he got him blasted.

So they did a little fake call-out sheet and they wrote up a thing to go to medical, but they put his name on it. So they knew when he was coming out. I was in confinement when this whole shit happened. So they had him come out and then they hit him with a real box cutter blade, ripped this whole shit open. Wow. He back in Haiti right now.

I looked him up when I got up. You looked him up? Yeah, big dumb-ass sky on his face. Holy shit. Yeah. So were you like, this whole time, are you thinking about like, I gotta get out of here and I gotta maybe change my life a little bit? Are you fully just in the moment of like surviving all this shit? I wasn't even thinking about going home, bro.

I didn't think about going home at all because it was just on some shit like, what's the point of thinking about I'm stuck in here? Right. You know? And shit got so crucial because my YO sentence got snatched after I got hit with assault and an inmate possession of a weapon. I had a lot of possession of weapon on disciplinary reports. Sounds like it. So they end up sending me to an adult prison. And they send me to one of the most violent, fucked up adult prisons.

Appalachy CI, ACI. That's called Gay CI. Bro, that shit there. The culture shock of the violence that the youth defenders is one thing. But when you see men acting like women and getting fucked or when you see men looking at inmates, all you see that girl right there, everybody stopped looking for a nurse or some shit.

We're looking like, oh, where she at, where she at? The girl right there with the Reeboks, that's the inmate. sneaker. He's talking about a white boy. And so you show up and it's like unmistakable. There's just a whole bunch of this shit going on. My last name is Cherry. And I'm at this fucking prison. So

COs are here. The inmate Cherry. Everyone's looking at. Which one's shit? Me. Bitch. Fuck you talk about. You know what I mean? You got to step down on shit because like the booty bandits in there they're on that. Right. Like they'll pull knife out and take ass all that. Do you think it's just worse in this prison or is this kind of how? I

I feel like a lot of prisons you don't hear about this much of that. ACI has a reputation for that shit. When I was there, they had a Jit dorm. You know, a Jit is a kid. That's what you call a kid in Florida. So they had a Jit dorm for 24 and under. They shut down the Jit dorm though. So when I was there, I was in confinement,

they closed it. They were telling me the stories of how when the white boys hit the compound, there was dudes in there with their shit ready for the white boys to go in the shower. When they went in the shower, they literally just be standing there, beating their shit, staring right at them.

And then boys are scared. They're not gonna do nothing about it. There was one dude who ran down on a white kid who was taking a shit. He pulled out a knife. He said, turn around, don't even wipe. He wanted to fuck him on the toilet, yeah. So the kid got scared, but he was like, man,

I'm not turning around, not turn around. So he ended up doing something else for him. And he stopped doing that. He was like, I ain't doing it no more, whatever. Dude stabbed him up. That shit was fucked up. So being white on that compound, and they're having a reputation as a gang member,

Because regular game members, bro, no matter what the race was, getting airlifted off that bitch. When I was in fucking confinement, I had a view of the main entrance of Appalachia. The ambulance is pulling up, going to the wreckyard to pick somebody up. Like, people were getting killed at that compound. So this was different because while I was at, we just getting cut, stabbed, whatever. Over here, people are dying. It's a different environment. It's a different game.

What the fuck? So anybody try you or how did you end up establishing your respect and there? I mean, my reputation carried from the youth defender prisons. So the barber in confinement was at Lancaster where I was at, and he put word out to all my homies. So the homies was already sending me shit while I'm in confinement. So when I hit the compound, I'm expecting a TOH. Like, I know they're going to try me.

You know what I mean? So when I got in my dorm, I was closed custody. I was the highest custody level you can be aside from death row. So they put me in the dorm, even though I only got less than a fucking year. maybe I had like 14 months left when I hit Appalachia. They put me in the dorm with lifers. So you got dudes like I was in I dorm. I was in I for, so two bottom.

I one had people in there with MIPs, murders in prison. They can only be housed with another motherfucker. They got an MIP. So most of these dudes would have their own cell and they act like they got a mansion. Like, yeah, I got my own room. I got an upstairs and the downstairs because they got both beds. They can't have a bunkey because they don't kill somebody. There was other dudes in there that was on death row and got off death row.

You only get put on death row if you killed someone. So they would end up getting resentenced to life or multiple life sentences. So I'm in here with the killers. Right. And, yeah, I mean, that shit was just, I ain't really get tried because the homies I already knew who I was.

My face was good, but everybody was looking at me. Like, are they going to embrace him? Are they going to fuck him up? But everything was straight. And once everything was straight, it was nothing. So are you forced to, like, be cool with these booty bandits to some extent? No, bro. You don't got to talk to nobody you don't want to talk to.

But at the same time, business is business. Right. You know what I mean? You got certain people, they're going to pimp out the ones that's acting like girls. Right. You know, or if this one's got dope, whatever, whatever, business is business. But unfortunately, there's no separation. So you're going to talk to whoever the fuck in there.

It's just a matter of you don't have to communicate with nobody you don't want to. Right. We don't fuck with them. Like, especially the ones that act like females, we're not going to be in the cell with them. We're not going to interact with them. We're not going to. None of that shit, you know what I mean? Because it's a bad look.

And are there white supremacists in this environment as well? Yes, and they hate me. They hated you. They hate me. See, that's what I always think about is if I got locked up, there's going to be these white supremacists. Dudes are probably going to hate me for being cool with these black dudes. Nah, let me break it down for you.

They hate me because I tell it how it is. They don't run shit in Florida State prison. Okay, yeah. And you're white, you want to be on that Nazi shit, cool. There's no Aryan brotherhood in Florida State prison. Right. They got the unforgiven. They do their thing.

They really kill each other, bro. It's really like you're not going to recruit no white boy. He's going to get flipped by us, by whoever. He's going to get tried by everyone else. And if he makes the cut and he's got a little respect, then the Nazis try to recruit him. Like, oh, yeah, I've seen how all 12 of those black guys just fucked you up. You held it down.

We didn't help you because we're not going to help you. But, yeah, if you want to join us, you can join us. Do they just not have the numbers? Nah, they get smacked, bro. They get killed. Like, that shit. They don't run shit. You got a few of them, though, that's rocking.

Right. There's always a select few in every group, but they're just not like that. There's got to be a lot of prisons where the white supremacist shit is actually like big and dangerous. I read they're running in the feds. But this is the thing, though. A few of them fucked with me. Right. So one of the big names on that compound was named Country.

He was an American Nazi, swastikas all over his head and everything. He called me nephew. So I was in two bottom. He was in four bottom. When I was in confinement, there was a CO that I still talked to to to this day. who would come up to my cell. He took me out for showers. He seen the big ass bee on my tattoo or whatever.

Did he not talk to you for a long time and then you got back in contact once you were free? No, he saw my videos. That's what I'm saying? He DM you or something? No, yeah, I didn't talk to him when I got out and then he saw my shit and hit me up. That's pretty cool, though.

I always wonder how many people see the shit from prison and then, like, reconnected. I have hit me up. But, you know, he came out of my cell. He pulled me out. He's looking at the bees. He's like, what are you? I'm blood.

He said, oh, you are white blood? or you're going to die white blood wait until you hit the compound so every day he worked in family he's telling me I'm gonna die I'm gonna get killed fuck it with me nonstop you know what I mean

and every time he saw me what's up white blood white blood because he wanted the other inmates to hear him say it they're like oh he said he had blood he wanted that reaction to get me hurt and I got cool with country the American Nazi who had a big

name for the Nazis or whatever so we went in the chow and he's working in the cafeteria me and country walk up to him, the country introduces me. Yeah, this is Jake. He's a white blood. And he's hearing it from an American Nazi.

So he's just like, okay, white blood. Like, it was like respect type shit. So every time he would see me, he'd see me with all the homies. And then at that point, like, the COs really were looking at me. Like, I'm some type of blood assassin because they're like, how the fuck is this skinny white kid? Because I was skinny in prison. How was he, like, officially respected by him? Like, he must be tearing shit up.

You know, and it's like, it kind of brought a reputation I didn't even have because at that compound, I wasn't even really doing nothing. Right. I did everything at the youth offenders. So when I got to the adults, I was able to, like, put my feet up. But as far as, like, the Nazis, they never said nothing crazy to me in prison. Never tried me in prison. Never said anything disrespectful in prison.

When I got out, though, oh, you're a clown. We laugh at people like you. No, when we're in there. You might do it at the safety of your home, but y'all didn't say shit when I was in there. You know what I mean? Did you eat is there like a little bit of a conflict in your head because I mean like I had a BMX jam and a dude came up to me that was with his kids and I'm talking to him for a second and after like 15 seconds it starts to click they're like fucking iron iron cross in the middle of his forehead all this different Nazi shit definitely like prison tattoos because if you got that shit on the street then he's a fucking psychopath but I felt kind of bad about even talking to this fool for five seconds like this even like having any kind of relationship with you. with them because it's like I fuck with black people so hard that for me to even be cool with you seems like a little bit contradictory in terms of my approach is prison just different

because it's so much more intense well that was out here right yeah so one thing about the south the south is the south bro you could be any race you could be anything you're gonna fuck with southern shit so when it comes down to like louisiana florida all that i knew nazis that were listening to busi yeah wow they'd be bumping that shit and there'd be certain ones that Hey, brother, that ain't our music right there, boy. But, nah, like, there'll be certain ones. The younger ones? Yeah, a lot of the Nazis used to be, like, white Crips, white GDs,

went to prison, found out they weren't real, and then joined some Nazi shit. But a lot of them really be on, like, they still listen to the same music. They like the same shit. Right. Like, they'll really be on some shit. Like, no, we like black people. We just don't like Jews. Right.

And they'll go bully some Jewish guy that didn't bother nobody. I don't fucking many Jewish people who are these dudes really dealing with. Seems like such a cop out. Yeah, it's picking a victim that, you know. Yeah, that it's like barely even there. Yeah. Fuck. All right, I probably should have said this like an hour ago,

but how did you meet these guys? These the homies. How long you know them? Can you want to give us an introduction? Yeah, so this day one bro's right here, this ratchet right here. That's a homie from Orlando. Okay.

This is assassin right here. This is my big homie. You guys been in prison or outside? He's been in prison. Oh, no, we met, we met on the street. We met on the street, but as far as prison, he's been in prison. Once you got out though, you met these guys?

Yeah. Okay. So these, you know, as far as bro goes, that's for our shit, that's the biggest name. It don't get no bigger than that. Oh, okay. So everybody I brought out, like, certified, like, big names. So how many more years are you lived in Florida after you got out of prison? I fucking got the fuck out of Florida.

Oh, okay. Yeah, immediately. But then how'd you guys meet? We all, everybody in the same circle. Oh. So everybody that I was still around when I first, high school and everything like that, It's still all the same circle. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I just brought you the biggest names. So it's like you're not meeting the little step as you're meeting the biggest fucking names. Because I kind of remember that being like a little bit of a moment of realization with the 1090 Jake thing because we're all watching your videos and we know you say your blood, whatever. We're not really thinking about it that much. And then we're seeing you go to Florida and when you're seeing you party with all these people that you're really good friends with and stuff. And like we're in the group chat, sending pitches back and forth.

Like, look at 1090 Jake, man. This is, shit, it's for real. That's the thing is, bro, like, when I got on YouTube, when I got out of prison, I'll stop there. When I got out of prison, I didn't have anywhere to go to. Right. I could have went right back to the same block that I got put on at. But I understood what would have came with it. I would have went right back to prison.

So for me, I got out of prison. That's why I really don't talk about my family. I got a family member who wasn't there for me as a kid. Reach out. Hey, you can stay with me. Came, got me. I get up to Massachusetts. As soon as I get here,

yo, you can't live with me. So now, now what? I had 24 hours to figure it out. So I had to go into a drug program. Why did they change their mind like that? My family do what they do, bro. That's why I don't really fuck with them. Wild-ass people, they didn't know what the fuck's going on?

It's just, you know, people have their own struggles. And as I became an adult, because when you look at your parents as a kid, that's just your parents. But when you become an adult, you look at them as an adult. and the respect level changes. Because now I'm looking at you as a man or a woman.

Would I respect you if I wasn't related to you? You know, so shit changes. And my people wasn't, you know, a lot of false promises growing up, false promise when I got out of prison. It might have been genuine, genuinely wanted to help me. And then when it came down to it, couldn't do it. So I couldn't get into a program for convicted felons in mass because I didn't do my time in mass.

So I had a lie and get into a drug program and go through all that book. shit. But with YouTube, people were like, oh, he got banned from Florida. He ain't allowed back in Florida. Oh, he ain't blood. He ain't this. He ain't that. Whatever, whatever, whatever. I go to Florida. You view me with 30, 40, 50 fucking people. You know what I'm saying? It's the same shit that it was before I went to prison. Definitely. So going back a little bit, when it came time, when you knew you were about to get out of prison the first time, had that feel? And you said you had a family member who was offering to take you in, but what are you actually planning on doing with

your life? And you're not really thinking about YouTube at this point, I'm assuming? That was one of the scariest moments of my life. Just knowing that you're going to have to figure it out on the outside? No, just knowing I was going home. I didn't want to go home. I was scared of going home. One of my homies that I met in prison that he actually knew from the street, right? Some peace to angel. We were at the youth defender prisons together. And then when I went to the adult prison, he came, and he's going home. So he was going home, like, three. Three months before me, then I was going home, and then my bunky was going home, three months before me, then I was going home. We all making plans to link up on the street.

Go home and he get killed. Another homie had another compound. He'd go home. When somebody got a letter, news thing saying he got killed. You know what I'm saying? So I'm literally watching people like, I'm hanging out with. We have a little celebration, bro, go home. Two weeks later, we found out that they died.

And even though it's only three years, it's like you. kind of went in when you were a kid and now all of a sudden you're kind of looked at as an adult by society but meanwhile you haven't had these three years of developing an understanding of how to get a job and pay your rent and shit I didn't know how to do none of that bro but honestly none of that was on my mind my whole thing was I felt like I was going to go home and get killed that was the main thing I just felt like I was going to die that's that's all that was in my head and I'm thinking about all the shit that I did on the street that I didn't get caught for I'm thinking about all the pressure I had on the street already because nobody forgets when you do

shit to him. So it's like every situation I had on the street right when I get back out it's on sight. I'm broke. I don't have a gun. I don't have a knife. Can't have a gun now. Right. And you know, I'm getting thrown back into the mix. It's a fucking death sentence. They're putting, like you got to go back out into the streets and a situation. The smartest thing I could do is get the fuck out of Florida. Right. I went back at the Boston. I don't know anybody up here. Did you actually have a drug problem or you just went in the drug program? No, I never had a drug problem. Right. But I, uh, I found a lot of similarities between my struggle and other people struggle.

You know what I mean? How I might lash out one way, they lash out in another way. And I met a lot of solid-ass people in there. And at the same time, a lot of people in there that were young, too, were looking up to me because I'm the only one that's been to prison.

Versus they're from, like, New Hampshire, Maine, all these weird places, and they're coming down to Boston to get treatment. So it's like their first time in the city. Then they look at me, tattered up. I just got out. I'm telling them the stories that, oh, shit. But I was kind of, like, in a way,

able to talk to them in a way. that they were able to understand. But it's a drug program. So are you having to sit there and say you were a crackhead or some shit? Oh, fuck yeah. They had me at AA meetings and everything. So you're just like kind of imagining what it would be like?

My age, I do dope, all that, yeah. Like, you get creative with it. No, I mean, I wasn't saying I was a crackhead. I was just saying like I like weed and Molly and shit like that. You know what I mean? And throughout high school, I mean, I was fucking with beans, all that shit. So it wasn't that far off. I just wasn't like a junkie.

Right. But I met a lot of solid people in that. When I went to my first AA meeting, I was in the corner, in the corner of the room, backed up. I didn't want anyone behind me. I'm still fucked up from prison. So this dude walks up to me, and he just stands in the corner next to me, puts his leg up, like, we're on the yard or some shit. He said, how long did you do? I was like, I did three years.

So I just did 25, and he introduced himself to me. And he became kind of like a mentor in there. He had killed somebody and, you know, changed a lot of shit around. Got me in the gym working out again. Got me a lot more comfortable being in society. So I met a lot of solid people in there. Wow. Yeah.

That's dope, though. So, okay, you do this whole program, and how you kind of get on your feet after that? I moved on my girl. Oh, okay. I moved over to Dudley Street in Dorchester. A new girl that you met? Yeah, oh, yeah, in Boston.

Right. So, because I was, when I got in my program, I was in Southie, right by the projects, in South Boston, by Old Colony. So, you know, it was by D Street. and this is like the original white projects where white people live at you got down to Florida bro

you tell them oh yeah white people in projects they're like where you know I mean but Boston yeah these were originally all white and they still got a lot of white people in them sham rocks and shit tattooed on the buildings so I was there and then I started bouncing around like little sober homes in Dorchester that I moved in with her

and that was like the most active neighborhood I ever lived in that shit rough over the really yeah the whole it's all brick buildings everything's Section 8, emergency homes, fucking rats, roaches. Everything's fucked up. Everybody's fucked up. A lot of shooting and shit.

And are you going real out of your way to stay out of trouble or are you kind of just doing whatever? Nah, I was on the block, bro. Right when I moved over there, I went to spray painting shit. I'm putting fucking gang shit all over the place letting everybody know I live there. Yeah, I started tearing it up. I'm outside smoking and shit. Posted at the corner store.

I'm meeting people. you know so I'm getting to know who's who I meet this one kid I stopped fucking with him and I was doing my thing like I wasn't I started doing some shit you know what I mean like I was hungry just like I was hungry in prison we started extorting shit I was hungry out here you know like I felt like shit because I got a girl I can't take her on a date I can't buy nothing so I start looking at all these motherfuckers out here wearing chains and shit like bro I bet you I can get you to take that off I don't even got to take it from you I started running down on people.

I ended up catching another case. They said I was chasing somebody with a gun in the back of the building. Was that true? That was true? Yeah. I got convicted on that shit and everything. What kind of evidence left?

Really just him saying it. Really? Yeah, none of the cameras had me on nothing. They said I put a gun in his face and told him to give me a shit, whatever. They hit me with assault with a fire rhyme. Swat hit my house. They never found a gun or nothing like that.

The police... So basically, like, The whole little situation popped off or whatever. And, you know, from his standpoint, I was in two different outfits. A lot of things didn't add up. They were trying to say that I tried to run down on him with the gun first, and he didn't give it up. He did whatever he could do.

And then they said I went back inside my shit, switched clothes, and came back out. You know what I mean? So more or less, what happened was Buddy had mace on him. I'm not trying to knock brains out just for this little petty shit. You know, the point isn't to fucking hurt nobody is to give me the shit, you know what I mean? So I go back in, put the shit up, and the fuck, I'm gonna just beat his ass.

I don't have been gas before. I came back out. He had already called the police. Wow. So when I came back out, they ran down on me, put the guns on me, whatever. I got booked for that shit. And the kid that I met that stayed around that block,

because I ended up getting probation. They wanted to send me back to prison. So this shit happened a year after I got out the same month in July. So like I said, had I stayed in Florida, I would have went back to prison for fucking ever, because Florida got the PRI, the prison release reoffenders act. You do anything violent, a certain drug-related, they double the amount of time you can

get and make it mandatory. So if I had did an armed robbery, the state of Florida that's punishable by life, I would have had a mandatory life sentence a year after getting known. But because I did it in Boston, that doesn't apply. So I ended up getting two and a half years probation With a two and a half year Like sentence holding over my head So if I violated any time I had to do the two and a half years

So this was in 2015, 2016? I think it was 2016, yeah Okay Because it was a year after So now me and this kid that I met on the same block We're in this probation group together We're hanging out, whatever, whatever His friend gets killed at the corner store

Across from where I was working at So the pizza spot that shot him in his head And I'm in my house, the street. The police got to come down the street because it's the main street. The Roxbury police station is further down that way, B-2. And, you know, I remember the night we're hearing mad ambulances and shit.

I'm just wondering what's going on. I'm trying to Google it. The next day I found out somebody got shot in the head like a block down. It was him. Wow. Yeah, so the one kid that I met that I started fucking with because I would have to take the bus from court

back to my house. I'm going through art blocks and shit. Like, I don't even know where I'm at, bro. Right. So people ask me where I stay at. I tell him where I stay at. If I tell the wrong person, the wrong thing, now we're into it. Even though I'm not really from there, that's where I'm at.

You know what I mean? So it was a lot of that shit. So bro started giving me ride homes from court, and then he ended up getting killed. So that kind of just made me, like, look at things like you got two choices. I can even get into some shit that I'm really not even involved with. Right. I just focused on me. I focused on me.

Right. Yeah, because at that point, I mean, it just must feel like you're right around the corner from having to. go back in for a long last time. And the thing is, like, I don't even know who he's beefing with. I don't even know these hoods out here. I just met him. We got cool. He was looking out for me.

And I heard he got shot in his head. Wow. And his homeboy got killed right before him. They're buried together. And then one of the people that they were into it with, I knew, like, I knew someone from that side, too, who wasn't directly in beef with them. You feel me? And then he ended up getting killed.

So what's you trying to keep your nose clean look like? Because I know at some point here you're going to start working in a weed shop. I'm just in the house, smoke a weed. Yeah, well, that came with the probation. Okay. So with the probation, I was working at a pizza place, and then I got the smoke shop. And then the smoke shop was in South Boston by the old colony projects. And so how's this part of your life where you're actually, like, you know, making a normal living and trying to keep your nose clean?

What's that like? Does it hurt your spirit to have a job? Nah, I liked it because my job is right next to the projects. So everybody in the projects are coming to hang out with smoking right outside the building. It's just like we're posted up, bro. And whoever's brave enough to come in the store, I'm hooking them up. We're cool, you know? I met a lot of good people in the neighborhood.

Everybody's taking care of me, the corner stores, the sub shop, whatever. And, yeah, I was getting a check. And then I started doing my shit on the side. I was making a lot of fucking money. I became the manager. I was working like 45 hours a week. I ended up getting taken off probation early because the owner of the smoke shop used to be a lawyer.

Wow. Came to court with me on my behalf to speak up on me. They terminated the probation early. and then probably like a month later I got fired. For what? Oh, well, I broke the sales record of the store twice, so I was one of the best salesmen they had. Right.

And to be honest with you, I started telling prison stories in that smoke shop. Right. My customers would come through. We smoked some shit, and they just, well, where did you get your tattoos, prison, how much times you do, and we get into the stories.

Because in that first ever interview you did, that's like fresh in your mind. Yeah, bro. That's literally how I started telling stories was in the smoke shop. Yeah. You know what I mean? And, no, I fucked up

because we had a thing where we could gift cartridges. You buy a pen for $50, $40, we give you a weed cartridge with it. I started bringing my own cartridges. I'm selling my own shit, so I'm getting it $40 a pop, but it's not like, you know,

if you get two, you get it for $60, not, it's $40 a pop. Right. So I'm getting 100 packs, flipping them, making $4,000 off a hundred pack. The sales record plummeted. And they were like, why aren't we selling anything in the store? They figured it out and they fired me.

When you look back at that, How does that make you feel? Just knowing that you were, you had this guy give you a big opportunity and you just couldn't help yourself. No, they abused their power though. They wanted me to work overtime. They wanted me to do mad shit. They weren't trying to give me time off and they knew I needed the job because of probation.

So once probation got taken off, I didn't really care. I was like, all right, well, fuck it. And then when probation, you know, when all that shit ended, now I'm sitting at home, I got my daughter and I start watching YouTube. And I start seeing these prison stories and shit. And I seen this interview, lockdown 23 and 1 was interviewing this white kid in Virginia that said he was a blood in prison, but he's not a blood anymore. Okay. And he's talking using lingo and shit.

I'm like, what the fuck? So I hit up lockdown 23 and 1. I tried to hit him up direct. He ain't respond. He put a comment. He said, yo, anybody with a story wrote a whole bunch of shit down, everybody went to liking it. And that's how I got the interview. So the prison YouTube scene?

Was this something that people were talking about in prison at this time? or was it this is the very very beginning of it sort of i never heard of it bro i don't even think the main dude that started it was his dude named joe from virginia after prison show i forget when he started it but i never heard nothing about it the first interview i seen was this guy named uh brian bruton who actually lives out here that would be a fire interview he escaped florida state prison oh i got to check him out yeah no he's fire his story is fucking nuts he's one of the only people that escaped and didn't get killed after the fact went to prison for a body all type of shit i watched his interview with Big Herc.

Yeah. From out here. Shout out Big Hirk. Yeah. And that's how I, uh, he didn't want to interview me though. He thought I was glorifying violence. But shout out to him though. He'd be doing this thing.

I understand he got a bigger message. Glorifying violence is kind of your thing. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe glorifying is in the word, but I don't know about glorifying, but bro, my bid was violent as fuck. Yeah. So I can't tell you about what I went through without speaking on the violence.

And I'm not going to act like I'm sad about what I did to people. Right. They weren't sad when it happened to me. But so, okay. you get in touch with 23 and 1 and he does the interview and how did you feel going into that because it's got to be kind of a weird feeling like I'm scared as fuck you've only really talked to people one-on-one few people at a time all of a sudden you're doing a video and you're thinking it's going to at least get 10,000 views right now I think it has one and a half million but

I was shook I was nervous as fuck I almost told him I'm not going to do it really yeah the only reason I did it was because I was thinking about all my homies that's in prison how would I be able to talk to them on the phone and be like, oh, I didn't do the interview. Right. You know, I got an opportunity that they don't have. So I took the opportunity, nervous as fuck, but I don't regret it. Yeah. I mean, you really, like, even that being your first time on camera, to me watching it now,

it's so obvious that you had it in you to be a great YouTuber because, you know, sometimes you ask somebody a question and they'll give you a five-second answer, and sometimes you ask somebody a question, and they'll just start talking for a half hour. Yeah, I'll talk you here. Yeah, it's like if you have that thing in you where you can just elaborate on any topic for a long period of time, then you're probably going to be a pretty good YouTuber. Well, prison gave me that because I did over 300 days straight in confinement. You know, like when you're getting into it, you're going to be in the box. And it's just like if me or you were sitting in the cell, bro, we have nothing to share about our life stories.

Right. And that's literally what I started to do was every new bunkie I get, we go life story, spit the whole thing. and that's how I got good at sharing these stories. Right. I just never knew anything about YouTube. But even now, I'm doing the interview right now. I'm not used to, like, all the cameras and shit. Because when I do my videos, I'm in control.

Right. I can say something. I can burp and stop the video and restart it versus when cameras is on me. It's like, it still feels different. I'm not used to it, bro. Right. But I got to ride out with it now. That first interview that you did, then you do a part two.

And on part two, you're geeked because you're like, yo, that's part one got 60,000. Yeah, this shit bust. Which is kind of crazy because that was $1.5 million now. To me, that back then was like $1.5 million. Oh, shit. Like, this shit's really. Right.

And I had a brother, I had so much support off the first interview. That's what made me start a channel. I had no intention on starting a channel. I just seen this kid that said he was a white blood. I was like, you were fucking dub. Let me tell my story. And everybody was like, yo, start a channel. Like, we fuck with your shit.

Right. I popped it off. And it just started blowing up from, the very beginning you didn't have any problem that shit blew up immediately right was going up everything I was dropping was just like fire that's dope that's good to hear man sometimes like when you hear about people starting YouTube channels and it just works from day one and like that a lot of big YouTubers have told me that but at the end of the day bro it's respect to lockdown 23 and 1

if he never interviewed me and even he was telling me to do an interview I mean to us start a channel if he never did that I would have never did this right so you know even though me and him we don't with each other now. Right. It's still respect for that initial put on. Well, when did that stress in that little relationship start? I mean, that's really the reason that I didn't do interviews anymore was he instigated a lot of situations. Because you did how many interviews with him? Four, three? With him, we did two interviews, but one of them was turned into two different videos. Okay. So it was only two things that we did together. Oh no, I think he brought me off for

another one asking me about how I would be in California state prison. But more or less, he, I didn't even know he did it like this, but he interviewed Pino. And first question asked, oh, you know about 1090J? I heard y'all was at the same prison. So after me in lockdown 23 and one did that interview, he started bringing on all these people asking him, hey, what do you know about white bloods? What do you know about white bloods? And to me, I'm looking at it like, you just want somebody to say I ain't real to pop something off you know what I mean

because I'm telling you that and I can bring on people that was in prison with me you can interview them and hear from them but you're looking for an outside source to tell you some shit about me so he interviewed Pino

and that's the thing you interviewed Pino and you said how did it pop off he said I started talking about him ain't how it happened locked down 23 and 1 asked him does he know me so he started saying

oh well when I was at Appalachia that wasn't no white bloods they had a strict rule about that shit he ain't lying it's just I'm official that's just what it is right and then he said if I was there when he was there I must have been low custody I was closed custody and I don't whole fucking time so what that did is it created a situation where you got one person saying we was at the same spot and it's kind of got other people like oh so he must be lying about everything he said right me and Pino spoke and we We did a little interview together.

We did a video and we was cool. And come to find out, I left prison in 2015. He wasn't in prison until 2016. We were never at the same spot. So when I talked to him about, I was like, how did that come about with the interview? He said, locked down 23 and 1 did it like that. So I feel like he tried to instigate that situation

that turned into him. Do you think because you were like one of the biggest, most viral things that he had going, that he was kind of thinking like the next most viral thing I could do is to have somebody say something against this guy. Yeah, 100% bro, because we got into a couple of situations with him. It's like, what the fuck are you doing, bro? Like, you fuck with me or you don't?

It's one or the other. You know what I mean? Like, if you fuck with me, you fuck with me, but why does it feel like you keep trying to get somebody to say something? And then when I step to him, it's like, no, it's nothing like that, bro. It's nothing like that, da-da-da. So it's like, I kind of just realized people do a little flaky shit. And they're gonna do it behind closed doors regardless.

regardless. So it just stop fucking with each other. Right. At that point, it's like, who the fuck you're going to bring on that's going to talk about me? You know what I mean? Because I can bring on motherfuckers from other gangs that'll tell you what I was doing. I've done it. I've interviewed my ops on my shit. That'll tell you

but, yeah, like, it's respect on both sides. We didn't beef with bitches, bro. We'd beef with motherfuckers that was on that. Right. We were both getting hit up. So at the end of the day, you're going to have some type of mutual respect for that. Right. So then how does the Pino thing go from you guys having a conversation and being cool to what happened later.

Hey big olah. Let me get that paperwork, twin. Oh boy. Oh, boy. Appreciate you. Yeah, so more or less what happened was, before I even take this out, somebody dropped the video saying he was snitching with his paperwork. So I called him. I'm like, hey, bro, I got the affidavit and everything.

Your co-defendant name, da-da-da? He's like, yeah. Y'all did this? He's like, yeah. You implicated your co-defendant? Nah. So everything else I just asked you as official, but the last pot you don't like any official.

Nah, I ain't do that. All right, well, he just dropped the video saying you did, so, you know, tighten that shit up. Because it was on some shit, like, everybody was hating on Florida prison channels. Because a lot of us fuck with black culture. Black people, they didn't like that shit. I wanted to unify the Florida prison channels.

And at the time it was me, K-Frog TV, who I honestly feel like would be a good interview because he's going to give you the third perspective of us in this shit. So many people hit me up up about him over the years. No, you got to bring him up, bro. At the end of the day, you got to be. Not the sex offender. I don't know why he ain't bring him here with you.

Like, he was, Pino wrote around here with him. Yeah. He should have came too. Yeah, he fucked a little kid. I seen that on YouTube. I don't know the details, but. Right, I know the details. 14-year-old little girl in a hotel on the period.

Yeah. The fucking police went to the school and interviewed her. It's a whole sex offender. He just think because that shit big, the motherfuckers ain't going to. He tried to link up with the homies because we got the Tampa Boxing League. He tried to come down. Yeah, a whole phone call got all that shit dubbed up. The fact.

Yeah, nah. That shit. We ain't playing that shit. Is he still doing his boxing shit out there? I don't pay attention to him, bro. That's Pino's people. Well, they fell out too, though, right? Yeah, because everybody got on his ass.

He used him for security out here. Right. I don't know why he ain't tap in with the hovers. They went there, didn't they? No. I think they tapped in with him. He went to the art block. He went to a whole not of blood.

He don't know no fucking hoover's, but we're gonna get into all this, bro. Right. So, you know, more or less, I hit him about the paperwork and I'm telling them to get that shit together. Show people that you ain't snitch, bro, because I'm fucking with you. So I feel like you were a reflection of me.

And that's why I fucked up at. I shouldn't have felt like that. I could have just cut ties with him and let his situation be his. But instead, I felt like it was mine. So I got more involved with it. He was on some shit like I don't even care about that. I talked to Kay Frog.

I hit a Pinole and I'm like, look, you either delete your channel and I'm gonna put the paperwork out. He folded. And I was honestly surprised. I didn't think he was gonna fold that easy. He deleted his channel? He deleted the fucking channel. You deleted channel who you got 30 days to sign back in.

He deletes the channel. I didn't know. So K. Frog hit me up. He's like, yo, he ain't taking it down. You're gonna post the paperwork? So K. Frog do his little sneaky shit too. You know what I mean? He do some sneaky shit.

And I dropped. the paperwork. So when I dropped the paperwork, everybody's trying to look up Pino's channel and it's gone. Oh, he really deleted. Oh, he'll bid. Oh, he does and that. Now they're thinking it's even more official because it's gone. Right. Then he brings it back. He does a video with some papers that he has saying, this is my discovery. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. This shows I didn't snitch. I'm the one that told him to go get his discovery. I'm like, look, you go get your discovery. It's going to prove you didn't tell anybody because it's going to have all the facts in the paperwork. You know what I'm saying? At the time, Broward County was closed, the county clerk,

because of COVID. You couldn't get your paperwork. So how the fuck did you just get the discovery? He wasn't showing a discovery, just showing random shit, but nobody on the internet knew better. So for me, being that we kill all rumors and all bullshit, I contacted the state attorney, the ones that go against you. And what I did is I got the case file. I even want to step further. and got you your own official copy of Pino's paperwork with your name on it. So I got a- I got a couple of highlighted things that I want to, you know, go over with you. Okay.

This paper that we're looking at, this is the paperwork that I saw. So Brandon Smott, that's Pino. They basically broke into a house, stole a laptop, another laptop, another laptop, a guitar, a guitar, or we. They're on some junkie shit, you know what I'm saying? Just hitting licks, whatever, whatever. Says the defendant Smott was arrested at his, his residence, the defendant directed detectives to one of the stolen computers, and implicated the co-defendant Gonzalez in the burglary. That's the paperwork, right?

That's it. So you asked him about that, and he said, oh, that's what the police said. I never gave nobody a statement. You'll never find a statement on me. So you're saying that he told on the girl that he was with? He told on the girl. He implicated his co-defendant in the burglary. So when we slide to page two, this just talks about how he was. He was arrested hiding under a bed in between two sets of drawers. Right. We slide over to page three.

Him and one of the co-defendants were discussing burglaries, popping cars, stealing laptops, whatever. Now, at this bottom pot, would you be able to read that, bro? At 2.35, I interviewed Brandon Smart. I advised him of his Miranda rights, which he had waived. Smart admitted to his participation in the burglary to the victim's residence at the blank community. He also identified his friend Matthew Mueller and stated he did not know Rebecca's full name. Smart provided information about Rebecca and her boyfriend, Raymond. I was able to identify Raymond Doucette as being Rebecca's boyfriend.

Smart agreed to escort investigators to Doucette and Rebecca's residence. All right. So just staying with that, though, not even going to the next page yet. How do you feel? Well, you know, I mean, I guess the cop could be lying, but yeah, that does sound pretty indicative. So now let's hit the next page. 1090, Jake really getting me. I mean, hey, we might be able to do a new little news thing,

paperwork potty or something. I can read this shit too. This is how Wack 100 feels on clubhouse every night. Yeah. This is very well laid out and highlighted on it. Oh, yeah, I made sure it was professional for you, bro. All right. So, you know, basically this one gets into questioning him about the burglary.

He stated he was aware of the burglary and that Rebecca committed it, right? Right. Smile stated, Rebecca stole the laptop. So he's blaming everything on her. This is where shit get good, though. Smott directed me and detective, whatever, to ninth av, at which time we met with his neighbor, blah, blah, blah. They confirmed.

They got the laptop. He gave up the laptop, and that was the laptop he said that he stole. So then it says SMOT directed me and the detective to Raymond Doucette's residence. So this motherfucker went on a field trip with the police pointing out his co-defendants' houses. He didn't know Rebecca's name. He said, I know where she stays at.

And he was escorted. It actually says he escorted the police. So you got Pino, 107 Hoover, sitting in the back of a police guy saying, yeah, that's what she stays at. That's who stole the shit. Then they go in there and they get the stolen shit. Yeah, that's the shit that she stole.

Wow. I mean, there's no fucking confusion. Yeah. I conducted a videotaped interview with Rebecca. I allowed Mueller and Smat to participate in the group discussion. They monitored the discussion. Brandon was heard discussing details of the burglary. that that just tell them you bought the guitar.

And then this last piece of paper, this is a copy of him signing off on his Miranda warnings, saying that he's willing to speak to the police without an attorney, and those are his signatures, the B and the S. So this is actually him signing off on the paper saying, yes, I would love to talk to you

and ride around on the back of the police car. You can keep that. I don't know if you want to hang it up, frame it, whatever you want to do, but... Nod jumper Museum? Yeah. We're in the paperwork business now. That's just for you.

You know what I'm saying? So, you know, the whole thing that I pride myself on with my channel, bro, is I take it a step further. I don't wait on the news or nothing when they report shit. I don't want to actually produce as much facts as I can. That's the thing I like the most about your channel, to be honest, is that you just actually take the next step of really investigating and finding out whatever you can. You'll always have a Facebook link and check out this picture of him from four years ago where he's doing this. And I'm like, man, Jake actually dialed the fuck in and found out. I don't even know how long it takes me to just do one video.

It's all research. But I really like being able to produce shit like that because at the end of the day, if someone says, oh, all your information's fucked up, this is what really happened. Why are you telling me what really happened? Right. Because all I know is what the police know. So anything you know, you're giving up information. Right.

So what I'm saying? I can read all this shit. This can't hurt your case. I can read Melly's case. It can't hurt his case. Everything I'm reading is what's already known to the police. Yeah, definitely. So nobody can really say nothing about it.

A lot of times I don't even like pay attention to some of the paperwork conversations when they happen on Clubhouse and shit because it's very like he said, she said, like you never really see the paperwork laid out like this. This is pretty convincing. Wait till next week. I got another big rapper. I'm about the blast too. Somebody sent me his shit.

Really? Yeah, so I'm in tune with a lot of different people, especially in the rap world and they'll send me the paperwork or just the name of whatever person it is and I'll look into it and boom, and that shit gets handled. So you posted about this type of shit at that. at that time. So you made a whole video, airing out Pino, Sanis, Snitch, et cetera. Then how does that end up? Where does it go from there? Me and K. Frog made the video, made our own videos, whatever, whatever.

So him and K. Frog started getting into it, pulling up in each other's blocks, like doing videos when they're not there. So it's like on some like six-nine shit. Like, oh, on my side where you at, all my side where you at. Neither one of them from a hood. K-Frog from Davy. Pino is from, Margate, Florida. It's an old retirement home. None of his paperwork from back until he was like 13

he ever lived in Pompano. So I'm not really even going to call him Pino anymore. I'm going to just say, Brandon Smart. Because he's not from fucking Pompano. It just doesn't make any fucking sense. But you go to prison, you want to claim a hood to sound official. You know what I'm saying?

So I understand it. But K-Frog was his boy. So he'll tell you his nickname was Crack. It wasn't Pino. Everybody knew him is Crack. I don't know why. But K-Frog, that was actually. his boys. So he can give you more of the information I can on that. They pulling up to each other's

blocks, acting like they beefing whatever, whatever. Pino says he's coming to Boston. So I'm like, I had him with it. So I stop posting because I want to, I want to boost it up. I want you to feel like you can't not pull up now. I want you to pull up. I'm eager to run into you. I want to do this. And at this point, you've been out of prison for a couple years. And you're living a clean lifestyle for the most part. You're not scrapping with people. You're not breaking the law. Not really, nah, but I wasn't really making money, so I didn't really have... This is the thing, right? Like, when everything came down to it, because he didn't come to Boston for whatever reason

he is, his home boy was going to Michigan to go handle something, he basically jumped in the car. Mm-hmm. I mean, I had the understanding already in my mind on how far I'm willing to go with this and what I'm willing to lose, and I was able to accept, or I already had accepted all consequences. I can't have a gun I'm a convicted felon If I bring a knife to a fight

I gotta use the knife Because if we're fighting And the knife fall out Now he got the chance to grab it I can't bring anything with me You know what I'm saying Same time If he come to Boston

Get his shit pop Who the fuck they gonna think did it Me Because you already posting Your whole fucking trip Before I was even on anything He's oh I'm coming to Boston I'm coming to boss

I'm coming to boss You're letting everybody know You're doing it for the internet Yeah so he gets smoked out here they picking me up first quarter so it's like not only that you got some other I don't even know who the fuck the dude was that was driving

and then you got his girl with you so you brought a civilian bitch with you for what the only thing in my mind is you got someone that can tell and then you can be like oh well she's a civilian there's no consequence so you got a rat with you

you already a rat whatever it is so in my mind it's like we're gonna fight I'm gonna pop out and what I did is I popped out outside. I went live on my fucking block. This is where I live at, bro. My block busing.

Every corner got fucking cameras on it and shit, shot spotters. Police are driving through nonstop. This is the block. This is an actual hood. This isn't my gate Florida. This is Dudley Street in Dorchester. People die here every fucking year.

And Dorchester, for the record, if you grew up in the New England area, you kind of know Dorchester as being like the worst part of Boston. It's like Boston's Compton, bro. Like everybody know we got a reputation. You know what I'm saying? So it's like people know what it is over here. Every corner you see the flowers and the candles and shit from motherfuckers that got killed

is rough. So, you know, I know where he's pulling up to. And at the same time, there's fucking cameras everywhere. We can't really shake nothing that ain't going to be on camera. So, you know, I'm on live for 40-something minutes showing the corner that I'm on. I'm on Dutley Street and Howard or whatever. This is Dudley Park. Pull up, pull up, da-da-da. They're trying to get in contact, find out where he's at. I'm looking around. I don't got nobody with me. My neighbors is outside. They're packing groceries and shit. So my neighbors walk up with me while I'm on the live. They're talking to me. But like I said, this is

the block, bro. You got people walking down the street, whatever, whatever. I'm not with nobody. Lifting my shirt. I don't got nothing on me. You want to throw hands? We're going to fight, bro. Because you've been dying to fight K-Frog. So we're going to run it. You know what I'm saying? We get that fading, whatever, whatever. And he was in the back of the building

the whole time parked watching the live off his homie's phone. Oh, wow. So when I walk into the back of the building, I see him standing there. So he, Oh yeah, don't put the phone down now. Oh, what the fuck? I'm gonna record one hand and fight with the other. I got nobody with me, like I said.

So I put my shit down. I popped the fight off. I popped it off. I went off in his shit, you feel me? We stopped fighting. I try to, I got hit. I'm like, okay. You know, we both, da-da-da, real quick.

It wasn't like we really, like, stood up in box type shit. Like, shit was over fast as fuck. I go to twist him over the curb, and he twists. He ended up getting on top of me. He hit me like one. time. I got hit like three, four times the whole fight.

And he had brass knuckles on? That's what they said. That's what he told you. That's why I believe I saw online, but respect for you, not confirming. I mean, that's what they said. I don't fucking, you know what I'm saying? All I know is we fought. Right.

And we handle our situation or whatever I get up. I see I'm leaking. I'm bleeding and shit. I'm like, what the fuck? You know, so whatever he did with the video, that big got chopped and screw, whatever, I'm talking shit the whole time. I'm talking about the bitch. Like, all right, fuck it.

We're going to run it again. You feel me? I'm up close on the female that's recording. So he's like, all right, back up. You hear that in the video. He said, back up. So I backed up. When I backed up, he cut the camera off.

What happened that nobody knows about because even after he did this shit with you and posted the little snippet, I was like, why he ain't post the whole thing? He runs off into the car, rips open the door, jumps in it. as I backed up to square off with him again, because I'm already split, so I don't really,

can't get much worse than that, you know what I'm saying? I rip open the car door and go in there to hit his ass, he hits one of these. So he's climbing over his homie who's already panicking, and his homie, whatever he do. He's telling his homie to do something, his homie does what he do, I back up off the whip. And that's how they pulled off.

Wow. Yeah. So that's what it was. So like I said, I already accepted anything that's going to come with it. If you got to use something, you got to jump me, if you got to do whatever you got to do, it's only going to make you look some type of way

because I'm willing to fight, win or lose, whatever it is, we're going to get it in. Given the way that it panned out, because one thing that we said when we were kind of observing the scenario is like we were sort of surprised, like if we were to ever be in a situation where we were going to fist fight somebody, we would make sure that there was somebody there with a gun.

Was that like not a consideration or you just said completely counted that out and you just said We're gonna fight It wasn't a consideration because I'm thinking of myself how am I gonna bring somebody into this situation right right like what I'm gonna hit up How's that gonna work bro? I'm dealing with somebody that certified on paperwork on tell and then tails on their fucking self So what they got something we got something we get the blowing it's gonna it's all going bad But not only that as publicized as it was I wasn't willing to do that I got a daughter bro I'd rather take a sky than take a bit at this point. So it's like my whole thing was just

handle it, however it happens, it happens. I knew I wasn't dealing with a killer. This ain't no certain shit get treated certain ways. You got real gangsters that'll hit you up privately and be like, hey, lock my number in when I get there, I'm going to drop that Eddie, and we're going to handle it. And it doesn't, only camera makes it on is the fucking news. You know, so.

So then the internet starts going crazy about it, though, and he's posting somebody and shit. Like, you seem like somebody who would not expose the details of this, so you wouldn't necessarily want to draw a ton of attention to it, but you probably want to draw some attention to it because you want to put out your version of the story. How do you handle it from there? I got sent a picture from K-Frog of him saying,

I want $10,000, I'm going to drop the video. And he posted a picture with his hands. Right. So I jumped on live saying drop the fucking video because I wanted people to see how it really. went. I know how it went. And that's why I felt like I was satisfied. You know, obviously pride is a motherfucker. Pride is the downfall of a lot of men. Certain shit. So, you know, for me, my biggest learning experiences all came from losses. This was a loss at the end of the day. I didn't win the

fight. No matter how it went. But it was a learning experience too. Because now it's like, what do I do? Do I smoke them? I go back to prison? Fuck everything up? Or do I wait it out? You know, two and a half years down the line. I'm doing a no jumping interview, making $60 grand a month off YouTube with a $100,000 fucking chain on. For sure. So, you know, that shit get different while other motherfuckers still sitting broke. Right. But then when he did catch a gun case or whatever recently violated his probation six months ago, 1090J comes through and makes a little video about it as if you didn't already have a little bit of grudge against the guy.

You wanted a gun case that bad that at 30-something years old, you make your baby mother-rolet. record you at a gun range. While you're on probation? And then you can't even unjam the motherfucker. You gotta get the dude that help you, the same dude that pointed you out to the police. Like you don't even know how to, and you got the nerve to say, I keep it on me.

Come on, bro. At a gun range. I just, I had to do a video. That was the stupidest I ever heard. Was there a little bit of you though that was like, well, I don't wanna kick a guy while he's down? No. You wanted the attention.

Right. And I pride myself on knowing, no disrespect. to you, but the biggest video on YouTube with his name in it is my video. This is true. You know what I'm saying? So, because I know he was excited about how much views y'all's interview got. I hope he's excited about the amount that I got him too. Right.

Do you, when you look at that situation though, does that impact or change how you deal with other YouTubers going forward? Because especially as you get bigger and bigger, there's just going to be a nonstop list of people that are going to want to use you for a come-up, right? Yeah, that's why I stopped doing interviews and shit. That's why I stopped doing a lot of things because it's just like people want to use you for what they can use you for. They usually don't even like you to begin with. And later on it gets exposed.

So I found a way where I can create content without needing anybody except for really needing them to fuck up. Once something happens, I can create content. Yeah, like, how long did you do YouTube before you decided that you wanted to kind of start talking about other people's shit as opposed to just your tales? A little over a year. It was, excuse me, it was accidental. I did a video on this kid from Palm Beach that was a rapper, and him and this other girl went into a 7-Eleven. They tried to rob it.

A white lady felt brave, like a real Karen. You stop that, you know, and she ended up getting shot and killed. And I just put Palm Beach rapper arrested for this. Because I put rap in the title, that bitch blew up. Right. So what was that? I was like, what if I really start tapping into these rapper cases? And, you know, this is another thing, too, right?

As far as getting the paperwork, I'm not putting out rumors. I'm not putting out opinions. I'm putting out the facts on the paperwork. Because at the end of the day, a lot of channels that do this type of shit, they don't show face. And when they don't show face, they're able to make mistakes, able to put out lies and rumors, because it doesn't come back on them. You can run into me. You know what I'm saying?

So she can get political, even from a game point. I think that's a big part of what makes your channel so intriguing to people, is that you are putting yourself out there and that you just, you clearly just are what you are, you're saying what you are, and you're not afraid to insert yourself into this conversation, and there's like a certain amount of respect you kind of have to give you off-rip because of that.

I mean, I would hope they would give that respect because I give that respect, you know? Even when I touched down on somebody case, like I broke down Bortland shit. People were trying to say he snitched. He ain't ever snitch. I ended up getting on the phone with Bortland. He respected the fact that I did the video.

The track situation, came up with a piece of paper saying, Track handed over the phone to the state attorney's office. So when I did a video on it, this was a big one, yeah. It was a big one. And in that thing, you said, you know, Jake should have had his facts together, this and that.

You're not wrong, but that's what that piece of paper says. And you can go on the website and find that piece of paper. Me and Trac did an interview about it. We spoke on the phone, man and man, whatever, all respect to him. And later on, new documents have just come out. in the Melly case. I did a video on it. And the paper actually said they were tracking the phone before track even got to the office. So he got there and they knew that it was in.

They already knew he had it and they had a warrant just like he said. He never lied about nothing. So I respect the bro. He held it down. He's actually, they're trying to say he participated in a lot of shit regarding the murder case, even accusing him of getting rid of the murder weapons. Sending money to the girlfriend to keep the mouth shut. We don't know what's true.

In the situation that he is, being that he's a businessman, a professional, and a manager, he's holding it down. Because he could have been, like, a lot of motherfuckers that would have just went to pointing fingers as soon as they hear that they're being accused of some shit. Right. But he's holding it down. So, you know, but I clarified that and, you know, let it be known. Like, not what he said originally was facts. Right. I think it's funny when you look at, like, a lot of YouTubers' early days.

There's a lot of story times, usually. Even for me, when I look back in my early videos and stuff, it's just, like, cringy as fuck. I'm like, oh my God, I got like a fucking video with me talking about punching my fucking college roommate in the face for saying the N-word around me and shit. Like, you know, you just are, you end up going through all your tales. And then at a certain point, it's cool that you see that you made the transition where you realize like, well, I don't have to talk about myself. I can talk about everything else that's going on and really add some value to it. And that's what's cool about your shit is that it's always separated into the two parts that there's like the factual information. And then there's your opinion.

Yeah. But you really, you know, you have the legs to stand on to have an opinion, whereas a lot of people really are not bringing anything to that scenario. And then the first part, the informational part, is usually above and beyond what you would expect from the average YouTuber because you can tell that you've actually done a significant amount of research. Yeah. So, I mean, for me, that's the best defense against the most obvious criticism, which is like, oh, you're supposed to be a gangster, but you're out here talking about everybody else's business. But when it's well researched and it's all official-ass information, then it's like, well, what am I really doing? I'm glad you brought that up. That's what Milk 7-4 is saying.

Oh, Jake the police, because he talks about paperwork, this and that. That's how I know. Like, how to fuck are you even a prison channel? You only went to jail. You got beat up by some Nazis. That's the only shit you ever did. Like, I don't even know how to you. I don't know, bro.

I know the hooves fucking with him now, whatever, whatever. That's cool for them. Fuck him specifically. I don't really know none of the other ones. but he's the only one that just stay with somebody name and they fuck a mouth. And it's like you don't even know how your own prison system works, bro.

Y'all check paperwork out here. We don't check paperwork in Florida State Prison. We don't have paperwork. When you get to prison, they throw all your shit away. Like, your shit gets fucked up, but the seals will come in and gas, all your property, fuck everything up. Like, we don't even have the shit versus out here.

They check paperwork. We want to know if you a rat. We want to know if you this, that, and the third, whatever, whatever. So it's like, bro, I'm literally checking paperwork going off the most valid source of information. Right. You can't say nothing about that. Yeah, definitely. Did it take you a while to kind of arrive at the style that you have now in terms of like, you know, your shit is very clean, it's very high quality, and then it just seems like the whole formula that you have at this point is pretty well thought out and easy for you to sort of replicate. I know you spent a lot of time in your videos, but it takes you a while to arrive at that? And do you feel like you're kind of fixed on this style of content, or do you see yourself? adding more to your videos?

I like this for this channel. I want to do a second channel. Start getting into some different shit. But as far as like where I'm at, I don't think there's much more I could do to make it that much better. Maybe like graphics or some shit. Right.

But it took me a little bit to get to where it's at, to learn everything, to learn how to put everything in because my channel is 100% run by me. You know what I'm saying? I almost assumed at a certain point I was talking to you and I thought that you might have had somebody helping you do the scripts and shit you're like no this is the thing and when people ask me like yo can you help me get on can you help me do this can you help me do that

how much are you willing to do for you because I learned how to record edit everything myself every fucking thing I do is me so last year off YouTube I made 545,000 that's mine that goes straight to me but that's why I got bro sitting next to me he'd be rapping you feel me that's not my artist because I know you said that at one point but this is somebody because you're the video that we play Played the other day on stream. Exactly. Now I get it.

He's in some of the videos too. He just got a lot of them. You know what I mean? But with bro, that's him. He stands on his shit. He built his name. He knows how to make his shake for himself. That's a flaw with a lot of other people is they want to put on.

They want you to do it for them. And then when they got to stand up for themselves, they can't, they crumble. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that's why me and bro, aside from being homies and all that, on a business tip, he'd be doing this shit. Right. You know what I mean? And that's the same thing with me. Like, I learned how to do every single thing my fucking self and got it to where it's at. That 540K, do you know how much you made from YouTube the year before that?

It was over 100,000. Okay. Yeah, I'm a six-figure felon. Well, you'll probably be way over the 500K this year. Yeah, it goes up every time. Yeah. Well, I just dropped 100 on this. That's pretty fucking dope. Yeah. But how does it feel just being in that position to make a half a million dollars in a year when I assume that you probably never even had a, you probably never even had a.

dream of making a hundred grand in a year, right? I feel blessed, bro. And it took me back to a lot of shit. So the reason I went to prison, my aunt that took me in, she's gay. She's got a wife. Her wife's brother owns a big house. He tried to be like a positive male role model,

whatever, took me to a gun range before. We just did little shit together. He got probably 50 guns in his fucking house. So it was a time where I didn't give a fuck about nobody. I didn't care about, you know, I didn't respect that. You earned your shit. You worked for it. I didn't have an understanding on working a job at that point.

So I went and hit his house for the guns. That's the case I went to prison for is I caught a gun. I got caught with one of the guns that linked me to the burglary that my co-defendant snitched. Oh, okay. So more or less, I had a piece of paper that told me the total value of everything that was stolen. It came out to like $8,900. because we got accused of hitting for 15 guns, a whole bunch of other shit. So once I really got the bag off of YouTube and secured it,

and I've never told this publicly, this is the first time I've ever talked about it outside of family. But I feel like it's good to let people know this type of shit. I hit up my aunt because I was coming down to Florida, and I brought $10,000 in cash. Right. And I surprised it with it. I said, I want you to give this to someone so-and-so, and I don't want him to know what came from me. The same way that his property was stolen from him,

is the same way I want the money to just appear. I'm not looking for a thank you. I'm just looking to write that wrong now that I'm in the position to do so. She was able to, you know, she did that. And when she did it, he was like, what the fuck is this? That's $10,000. He's looking at my aunt. Like, what the fuck?

She's like, it's not for me. He looks at my other aunt. It's not from me. It's from Jake. He knew immediately. So it's like I say that, to say this. I got my money, I ran it up, but I also took care of a lot of shit and looked back and righted a lot of wrongs.

You know what I'm saying? That was a major thing. I should have never violated him like that. And I'm glad to be in a position where I'm able to fix these type of things. Definitely. We haven't spoken since then or nothing like that. But it wasn't about that. And it wasn't about the apology.

It was just about the principle is I have so much respect for him now, understanding that he worked for everything that he had and me being me at that time I just came and took it right you know what I'm saying yeah and I mean there's an extent to which

when you're broke and you know somebody has something you know it's wrong to take that shit you know a lot of times you just might not care but if you're really fucking broke you might do some shit that you 100% know goes against your fucking moral code of what's right and wrong

you do it because you're broke and now you're at the point in your life where you have the option to actually be a good person because, you know, obviously you're a person who's had a little bit of a hard time making the distinction over the years. You've done stuff that you didn't want to do or whatever because you wanted to be able to take care of yourself.

And, I mean, that is just an awesome part of it. Yeah, that's the thing that a lot of people don't see is they just hear me tell the stories of things that... That's the difference. I talk about shit I used to do. I'm talking about fucking people up now. You know what I mean? I talk about everything I used to do,

but that gave people an impression on me like, oh, that must be all he's about. But at the same time, I don't put out a lot of the positive shit I do in the background because I feel like a lot of people do that shit for clout. Oh, I want you to see me give this to this homeless guy. I can take care of people behind closed doors. They're going to take care of me when I see them. It's going to be that respect.

I know I'm doing it for the right reasons. Right. No one knows about it. But the thing is, where it travels. You know, if I go hurt somebody, I'm not going to tell everybody I did it. But people are going to talk about it. So when you hear about my reputation from someone else, it's going to speak louder to you than if I was like,

oh, yeah, I'm about that life. This is what I do. Right. You know, so even the good I do, it still travels around because that word still spreads. Definitely. But making so much more money now at this point, do you have plans for how you can kind of solidify yourself more?

Like, you're thinking about buying a house? You're thinking about, I don't know. The $100,000 change is a good start. Yeah, no, that ain't. That's just a, that's just a, that's just, It's the trophy. Just had to do it. It's a trophy, bro.

It's a fucking trophy. It's an accomplishment. And to be honest with you, I haven't spent any of the money from YouTube. I've stacked all of it. You know what I mean? Me and my family situation, we straight. But, you know, that's hard, though.

That's probably the only question of yours. That's hard. That's probably the only question of yours I'm not really gonna get into because anything aside from YouTube, I don't speak on. Really? I plan on getting into a whole lot of shit. But when it comes to businesses and everything like that,

because you got these cloud chances out here, bro, I could buy a business. business they find out I own that they're gonna fuck with it yeah they're gonna do little fucking shit because they don't want to see you get in this shit so I don't put out none of that private shit you're not gonna see me telling people you know family pictures you'll see my daughter that's it I don't show people anybody right keep all that shit private yeah once you get into the because a lot of people are willing to put their whole life out there on display because nobody gives a fuck once

you actually get to the point where your privacy is something that you you want to hold on to for dear life it kind of becomes like shit I'll hold on to as much of that as I can't you know like with a certain channels hip hop daily a motherfucker that just copies all my shit and just you don't know anything about who that is or anything oh listen I'll put money to find out who that is yeah like that motherfucker literally will word for word copy a video of mine and then repost it he got a whole little group they do weird shit yeah there's other channels that it seems like him and sometimes they use a different voice they'll put out the fake-as fucking thing like oh this is why so-and-so got killed it ain't got nothing to do with that

just for that click I reported them to youtube for one that it was something where it made it look like uh keeglock was saying that he knew doth was gonna die and it had like two million views and it was a fake quote and i sent it to my youtube rep like you gotta stop letting them get away with this shit and i don't know if actually anything really happened from that see i'm not gonna hold you to it because you know gang or nothing i wouldn't even report somebody on xbox or talking shit like i don't be on none of that. But it's just, you know, it is what the fuck it is. I just like to run into certain people. Right. Just have that conversation in person. But I think that that guy's kind of smart because he knows that. He does it how he does it. And that's the point of what I'm

getting at. It's the simple fact that I got more smoke than I know about. I got people that I don't know about that want to do something to me just because of either what I spoke on, either it was a friend or relative. They just want to get famous, whatever. So because my face is on shit, I got to move a certain way. Right. And that's why it's not. Like you view how many people I got here. We got people outside, everything. So like how Milk 74 pulled up on you, I pray for his safety, he doesn't do that over here. And he's going to be on the news outside.

It's just, that's, you got to move a certain way. If he had actually pulled up, like, if he had actually, like, attempted to do anything, that situation would have played out a lot different. While I'm here? Or not, just in general. Like, the way that he put that out there as if what he did was some tough shit was, like, the most misleading shit ever. Like, he pulled up and left immediately.

We're gonna go to his spot after this because, you know, we're trying to take a picture with him. I'm a big fan of milk. I'm trying to link up with him all in my hell. Right. So this is like one part, interview trip, another part, sightseeing? Yeah. There's nobody else you want to see? Not really.

I mean, like, it ain't really like, we're just going to do some tour or shit. Yeah. Hang out and then we're out of here. Yeah, definitely. How many days are you here for? Just tomorrow. This is your first time in L.A.? First time.

First time for me too. That's sick. That's actually dope as fuck to hear. You keep saying here as if we're still in Boston. We pulled out to, we pulled up to some liquor store in Englewood. And it's just different, you know? Like, being in the corner store in the hood, it's like, y'all got different hood shirts. Like, we got G-Mans.

That's all like black tea, white tea in Florida. Y'all got, uh, I forget what the fuck the name was. Yeah, y'all got different shit out here, but it was just different. The prices of bottles are different in the hood, like all that shit's different. But, you know, it's a cool little vibe, though. We ain't renting no bull. Who'd you go to Englewood with? Us.

Just you guys? We pulled up. Yeah, no, it was a liquor store because the airport right there. But there's gotta be a lot of people who want to, who want you to tap in while you're out here, right? I'm sure you talk to all kinds of people. Like these fucking white people on YouTube, they ain't got nothing to do with games? No, but I'm talking about even like real deal gang people would probably be like pretty hype to have you come and tap in. We got, we got real deal game members from the West that stay in the East.

We got them in Florida. You know what I'm saying? All different sets, whatever, whatever. So we already have that. So it's not like a really a mission to, like when I step somewhere, bro, we'll be in the hood, whatever, whatever. But if we're traveling somewhere, we're trying to do some big lavish shit. You know, we got a mansion while we're out here.

We hang in the fuck out. We got a poker table in one of the rooms if you're trying to slide through later. Yeah, we can hang the fuck out for real. So it's like, that's the type of time we're on. We already lived this shit. So like how Pino came out here, oh, I'm going to visit the projects. We already end them, bitches. We really do this.

We don't just play, play, pretend, you know, whatever. And for nothing, you know, I mean, in the rub. But the politics is very different out here versus over on the East Coast, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, we know that. We're very aware of all that. So, you know, we don't want to, you know, get mixed into politics and then, you know,

okay, we're not dealing with them type of dudes and this and that, you know what I'm saying? So it's a different level out here, like you got certain bluds that fuck with certain cribs. Right. You got certain bluds that don't fuck with certain bluds. So whoever you tap in with, you got to have the understanding

or the overstanding that you just inherited beef while you're out here. I see an out-of-townist come here and link up with some bloods who are actually Crips and we're telling them there were bloods. I mean, I can't get into on camera at all. But I see people try to tap in and get completely fucking misled and wild shit. Well, I mean, you know, blood and peace, I don't spoke on the phone with OG Red Run before he passed away. I don't spoke on the phone with T. Rogers.

Right. You know, these are big fucking names. And, you know, unfortunately. they're no longer here, but it was a situation like that. We could have did that. But as far as OG Red Room, he don't pull up the Tampa plenty of times. Right. You know what I'm saying?

We got a lot of West Side homies that's down there. So it's like it's not that big on the accomplishment list for us to tap in. We already tapped the fuck in. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because, I mean, it is kind of like that where a lot of people who are not from L.A., they want to sort of like prove that they can be accepted and hang out in the L.A. I understand that.

And I mean, yeah, it's a major move at the same time. Like we can always pull back up and handle that, but you got on saying, like, I'm GKB. This gangst the killer blood. This shit comes from New York. We're not a West Coast set. Shout out. We're East Coast set. You know what I'm saying?

So my shit comes from New York. Right. And it's always respect to the West. But, like, I was just in Brooklyn before this. Right. I don't know if you view that shit on Instagram. I was just in the Coney Island projects hanging out. You know, so that's like our shit.

You know what I mean? Right. And the whole fucking east is where we at from state to fucking state. So any state that I go to if I'm tapping in, it's not like I'm tapping in it with motherfuckers. I don't know. Right. Now, these the bros. We everywhere. You know what I mean? Definitely. That's dope, man. This guy really is one of a kind. Tell me about him. Give me your opinion. Man, listen, man, that's the bro, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, when I met him, man, you know what I'm saying? It was, you know, the initial conversation, it was crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, politics involved with certain things with, you know, with white bloods over on the East Coast, you know what I'm saying? But, man, hearing from other people, his credentials, it's crazy. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot more he didn't even speak about. So, you know what I'm saying? Then on top of that, I mean, he's just a good dude, man, great dude, you know what I'm saying? That's my brother, you know what I'm saying?

So, you know, I'm glad, you know, his success rate is where he's at and, you know, doing good, man, you know what I'm saying? So that's what it is. You know, we, things look that crazy because of what, of what the representation of what, you know, what we stand for and all that. But it's nothing like that. We really love our brothers, man. You know what I'm saying? We're more of a family than anything, you know what I'm saying?

So we try to promote that. So forget all the negativity, you know, we don't just indulge in that, you know, we also by our family. We're also about our people. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, but all in all, Jake, awesome, bro. Awesome brother. You know what I'm saying? It's very motivational to me, too, because I know that I see.

so many like young kids who are in the streets or whatever and like just to see you find such a different kind of pathway out of that shit through making YouTube videos like so many people get hung up on dream of being a rapper or whatever and for you to actually kind of you know being a rappers years and years and years for you to see any kind of success usually and the fact that you were able to come out in the course of like two years three years and get to the point where you make a half a million off YouTube alone that's fucking ridiculous it's wild bro and I didn't expect none of it and that's just you know she's just just just wild like the only thing I've continued to stand on was just blood

and for me like even when I got put on in the street like oh like 16 17 when I'm officially put the fuck on you know what I'm saying and I didn't really understand everything but this was just everyone I was around so what's like when I went to prison that's when shit started making sense because I shit different than out west like we got oaths and all type of different knowledge that we be spitting you gotta know your shit I really They got an understanding of what the shit meant and why it was made when I was in those situations. Brotherly love overriding depression and destruction.

That's blood. So, me and you were in prison together. Me and you were going through all this shit. Seals are beating us. Other people want to stab us. But we ride out together. I got your back. You got mine.

When you sleep, I'm going to wait, drinking coffee, making sure no one hits you up. We take turns. When we're in the shower, I got the knife on me. You soap up. I'm watching your back, making sure you're good. You get out the shower. I pass you the knife. Now I'm soaping up.

we really riding out together to make sure that we either make it home and we just make it through our bid you know what I mean right it's pretty crazy man 10-90 Jake um I also wanted to just mention this it feels like you have kind of like found your niche and you're staying in it in terms of doing this kind of content do you aspire to do other things with this sort of brand you're building even like within the the end of sentence world because you know I was thinking about it I'm like I don't see 1090 Jake necessarily pushing the merch so hard yet.

I could imagine you hosting clubs. I could imagine you doing events. I could imagine you doing a podcast every week. There's a lot of different shit that I can imagine you sort of doing with all this, but it feels like you have been kind of slow to expand and have kind of just doubled down on this one thing that you have working for you. Yeah, I'm an introvert, bro. I like just doing me.

So it's like, I don't really like having to fuck with a lot of people. Right. I don't like having to, you know, I'm not opposed to anything, though. And the more people I speak with on a business tip, the more I'm enlightened to how far I can take shit and make shit. You know what I mean? Right.

So I got a lot of ideas going for right now. I'm sticking with what I'm doing. And just at the same time, I've got to get used to having this type of money. Right. It's different. That's the major thing, though. It's like, once you get it, the same way I learned the ends and outs on how to create a video, I have to learn the ends and outs on how to maintain what I have and make it grow.

otherwise you go right back to where you started at because when you start out making YouTube videos and you're just trying to pay your rent or you're just trying to make $5,000 this month or whatever I just want to buy weed bro I don't even think about paying rent when I started off you know what I'm like but that's a certain type of grind because it's like when you're thinking like I'm just trying to get enough

to fucking take care of myself like if I could eat this month I gotta check myself sometimes bro because a bad month for me is if I didn't make $30,000 right that's a bad month and I come from a position where like you know making a thousand was big right you know what I'm saying there's certain people that never really seen 10 20 30 40 50 thousand in

their face like cash right so when I'm looking at my bank account now that in itself is motivation it just inspires me to you know because there's a lot of motherfuckers that's never touched that amount and I'm also in a position to bring a lot of people up with me mm I love to be able to do that two of the two of the biggest things that I want to do is one get someone on the same page that I'm on and two, get somebody out of prison. I want to put enough legal funds behind them to overturn that case and get them out. You know what I mean? That's like a major thing that I want to accomplish and do just to be able to, you know what I'm saying? Because it's certain

people that's literally only in there because they didn't have that lawyer money. Right. If they had that lawyer money, they would have been straight. I had a lot of people like that. I had a lawyer, I probably never would have went to prison, to be honest with you. Really? But prison was the best thing that ever happened to me for the simple fact of how much of a learning experience it was. Like I said, my greatest learning experiences came from losses. Prison was a fucking loss. But if I never went through it, I never would have matured. I never would have been able to speak.

I never would have got over that uncomfortability of moving different places or being in new environments in there. You got to stand out with your chest up. You got to speak up. You know what I'm saying? So it broke me out of my shell in a way. Do you think, I was going to say something? And, you know, for the record, you know what I'm saying?

like, you know, people on his caliber of status in life, you know, when they, you know, on that, most of the time they don't really be official, you know what I'm saying? They're not really plugged in. They're not really linked in directly with the biggest, the big homies and nothing like that. And with that being said, you know, a lot of them in their own type of weight kind of get distorted a little bit, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, with his situation that's different, you know, he, you know, he got the street credit, you know, definitely been through whatever, and he's real right.

You know what I'm saying? He don't got to give us. He ain't giving nothing. Whatever he do, he'd do it. I mean, he round us with a $100,000 chain. And he's a step. He can come to the hood 100 deep, 200 deep and look that like, ain't nobody, hey, what you want, you know what I'm saying?

It's what you want, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's the one plus that he got that a lot of people can't say that they got because they got a lot of people around them that's paying, you know, not probably literally out of their pocket, but everywhere they go, man, you know, I got to bring my brothers with me and I got to, you know, make sure all my brothers get in the club and, you know, things like that. I'm buying all the bottles and all that. It's nothing like that.

There's the finery that gets them in the, it gives them the, uh, the image that they want. Right. Versus my whole shit literally was already established before the money. Right. And just the money came with it. Right. I mean, everybody sees the six and nine scenario. And they're like,

oh, so you can just be a regular guy and get Popinessa rapper and join the game. That's the difference. between me and brus is me and whoever can get into a room and then whatever you want to test we can test you know the um six nine ain't gonna do all that versus i'm uh we can we can figure sure nobody really knows how important the game coach is you know what i'm saying nobody everybody everybody feel like um they don't really know the importance of it you know what i'm saying so they don't know that these dudes got to tap in with certain people yeah shit just get uh you got to be official like i said and that's why when it came to excuse me that's why when they

came to bro, not bro, but with Pino claiming that he, uh, 107 Hoover, the shit got deep, right? Because I know somebody that he was actually at that prison with. So he said, you know, they had 40 crips on the compound, and he was the head enforcer. You ever view 40 crips on the compound in Florida? The motherfuckers don't have no numbers in Florida, bro. And it ain't no beef or no crips either. Not at all. I know real Crips, certified about their shit I fought with.

You know what I'm saying? But the Crips are tied flags and the GDs just to have numbers. That's what they did at ACI when he was at ACI. So, you know, as much as Milk 7-4 or whatever, Milk beyond his shit. Pino posted a picture of his big homie, and Pino got the paperwork within the same day that his big homie, who's from Sarasota, who was already in prison before Pino was a fucking teenager,

was a rat. He's doing a life sentence right now on a murder case. This is who Pino said, what is his big homie? So Pino deleted it. Now he's saying his big homie is dead. A lot of fake gang members that you find that say one or two things.

My big homies dead or my big homies in jail and I can't get in contact with him. So he's saying his big homie is somebody named Ann. And he, I guess, got in contact with JAP 5 and some of these other hovers out here. that be on their shit, he's trying to say, Ant brought Hoover

to Florida, right? Ant from Louisiana, they called him N-O. He got killed on that same compound that I was at, that Pino was at, but this happened during Pino's time

when I wasn't there. So you're telling me, y'all were 40 deep on a compound, you were the head enforcer, and your big homie got smacked in a low custody dorm, the person that smacked, them, the gang that that person's affiliated with, they run pumping on.

So how the fuck you be hanging out and standing with the gang members that are responsible for your big homie dying? How that work? I don't know. He ain't no 107 fucking Hoover. Same reason he throwing seeds up and shit. Them boys don't throw no seeds up. His big homie, they got pictures of his big homie throwing seeds up.

Got a lot of fake-ass gang members, bro. And that's the difference in itself, motherfucker. I'm fucking really trying to project all that gang shit and all that shit. It's just, it's been a part of my shit since the beginning, and it still is. So when people view it like, how come he doing all this shit and he got all this money, this was already a part of my life before we even got to this stage. And that's why I'm still with this shit versus other motherfuckers are trying to reach out and get official at 30-something years old.

They're moving backwards. Right. Dude, I hear about that shit sometimes from people out here talking about dudes who are in the 30s. they're in the entertainment business or whatever, and they really want to, like, join gangs and catch bodies or go do drills or whatever. You want to keep it on you at the gun range and post the video. Free cases.

Okay, but people wanting to be, like, fake gang members, that I'm not that surprised by it because I get it. It looks super cool. You want to be associated with it, etc. But the fact that someone who already kind of has figured out a way in life, who could pay their bills off of something relatively enjoyable, have a decent life, et cetera, and that they want to slide, that blows my mind.

It don't make no sense, man. It don't make no sense. What it is is, people never did it. Because they never did it, they're more willing to do it because they don't have that satisfaction and being able to say,

man, I already did that shit. You know what I mean? It's like getting gold teeth in Florida, like little pull-outs. All the Jets get pull-outs. I had pull-outs at one point of time. Once you grow up, I already did it. Yeah.

So motherfuckers ain't ever lived that life. They want to do it now because they feel like they're missing. that respect that other people have for doing that shit when they were younger. Yeah, I mean, there's kind of like two different ways that you can do it content-wise. Like, I was talking to Abner from 60 Days In, and he told me that he was trying to get on a- The head Chicano? Yeah.

Yeah. He told him he was trying to get on Gillian Wallow and that they didn't really get back to him or something, and that basically it might have gone back to the fact that they saw him as a snitch because he was a one of them 60 days in people hit me up i forget which one it was it was a white guy he said hey can we do an interview i never responded to him though but do you think taking that kind of tv role is sort of snitch is yeah yeah because in the beginning the sole fucking thing that they say is uh you know your job is to go in right yeah what could be more of the snitch thing than getting a bunch of people you don't even know in trouble you know i mean but then on the other hand

you have somebody like vlad or even me to an extent like i would interview a famous snitch like i don't fucking care. Like Vlad has done crazy interviews where you learn all kinds of crazy shit with dudes or informants because they have nothing to hide. You interview with Pino. So, you know, that's somebody that's known for being a fake crippling and snitch. So it's like, at the end of the day, bro, you're not

under game politics. And at the end of the fucking day, you got to understand. There's a business behind everything. People want to hear his perspective, too. You know who I was listening to? That's a full-blown rat on YouTube. Is Sammy the Bull. Right. The old mobster. He got a YouTube channel.

Right. Listen to some of his stories. That's just gangster. He a full-blown rat. And that man done killed like 17 people on paper. Could you interview him though? No. If you did that kind of content.

I wouldn't have that conversation with him. No. I wouldn't even do it. Because at the same time, like, I'm not trying to lower my standards. How long am I going to go? You know what I mean? Like, what is the final point? Like, all right, I can view it as profit.

But at the same time, I could stick with what I'm doing. Mm. You know? So, like, if you interviewed 6-9, I wouldn't feel no time. type of way, but I would pass on that interview. Right. It's just what it is. I mean, that's been one kind of weird thing to see is how many people in hip-up.

Like, I think Vlad turned it down, Joe Button turned it down. He never hit me up, but I'm not trying to do it. Vlad, Vlad, uh, respected by a lot of respectable people in the streets. People try to say Vlad, the police. He asked questions, bro. One thing about it, if you've had contact with the police, you don't have to answer questions. Right. So how the fuck you're going to get mad at the question if you end?

You don't have to answer. You don't have to answer. I respectfully decline to answer that. It's as simple as that. Right. You know, so if you can't decline Vlad, you probably can't decline the police neither when they're asking you some shit. It's very fucking simple.

That's how I've always looked at it too. His job is to get the fucking information. My job, because I don't interview people, is to find your information. However well hidden it may be, money makes the world go round. To hit up the state attorneys, how much is going to cost to get a sent to me? Okay, boom. And now we got it. And me or Vlad, like, there's been a hundred times where some of you

somebody's done an interview and then hit me up afterwards and said, hey, can you take out that story where I talk about putting a gun in somebody's face back in the day because I got this case and that could be used in this case or whatever. Like, shit like that happens all the time. And I do hate when people ask me to remove shit from interviews that's just dumb shit. That's why I stopped doing interviews, bro, because people are like, yo, can you remove this? You know, come to find out they lied about this. You know, it's just like.

But if it's some shit that's going to get you locked up, I'm not, of course we're going to remove it. Nobody wants to be known. But if you slipped up and said some shit that make you look some type of way, that's on you, bro. Right. That's your truth. Yeah. Now you want to hide it.

Well, how the fuck I'm going to remove the video? Like, people ask me and take videos down all the time. I tell them, if you get the news to take it down, I'll take mine down. Right. Because if they're not going to take theirs down, you feel like you can step to me directly because you can just hit me up on Instagram. Because the news is not speaking to the streets. Your shit clearly is like for the people who care about that shit.

So it's like, if we're finished. to get political, we can get political about it. You know, I did a video on Lil Paroo. Oh, my God. I love the fact that you embraced him. I didn't embrace that shit. Okay, but from my perspective, I was at Dave and Busters years ago, maybe three years

ago, four years ago, I see Boone Gang. John Gabana. Respect. John Gabana. I see him. Oh, what up? How are you doing? He's with some kid who got crazy face tattoos. I'm like, whatever. He's like, I'm a little pyru. I'm thinking to my head, like, a word? Like, okay. Like, are you? Like, whatever. But anyway, then he hits me.

somehow he gets my number he texts me for the next fucking like he still will text me every couple months trying to just get an interview going when I saw that you did a video on I was so happy I'm like finally I actually get to fucking learn about this dude who's been bothering me so I hit up the island boys because they're talking about they were saying they were sex money murder right yeah all right well you in the state of Florida so if you're gonna be that there's a specific motherfucker you have to know that I wanted to know if he knew that specific person He didn't.

Not Chico, that guy who kidnapped him? No, I'm talking about a real blood. Right. Not whoever the fuck they'd be around. So that's what I'm saying, when this shit, like, just tapped in for real. You know what I'm saying? Everyone knows each other. Everyone can get in contact.

Real deal of shit. That's how you figure out who ain't what they said it is. What I respected about fly soldiers is he kept that honest. He said some stupid motherfucker from Atlanta blessed them in and whatever, whatever. He told me he wasn't real. I respect you for telling me that. That ain't your fault that you got missed. led, but I'm glad we're on the same page to stop doing the red flags and all that shit

that we straight. He got me on the phone with Little Piru, put him on the FaceTime. Little Pairoo was like, nah, he's going to screen record it. He's going to la-da-da. I'm like, bro, I'm not going to do that. I'm in bed, bro. I'm not going to do nothing. I just want to talk to you. So I get him on the phone. He the type to like boot up. He just wants to yell over you. Like, bro, just answer the simple questions. You know what I'm saying? I did the video and I said it in the video. If anything is false in this video, Have your big homie get in contact with me. I'll take everything down and do another video apologizing.

If you're really that. Of course he's not. You know, so he claiming the South Bronx, but the bloods said he's claimings out of Maryland and fucking, it's just a mess. He's someone that ain't mentally all the way there, tattooed some shit all over his fucking face. I've got the pictures of when he was going to college,

how he looked beforehand. Would I smack him in person? As much as I would want to initially? Nah, because I understand. I understand you like really fucked in the head. Like you like a sight case. You know what I mean? Now if I viewed him and he's all right,

I like, alright, then fuck it. But it's just like, you know, it's just clearing shit up, bro, because somebody like that, people will try to portray that shit with me. I tell you about my pain. I tell you about getting hit up. I tell you about how it feels to be locked up,

not seeing your people, the fucked up side of things. That's the thing with me is like when people were trying to mentor me on shit, You don't want to go down this path because you might go to prison and get raped. That didn't do it for me. I'm not scared of that shit. You know what I'm saying? Versus when I tell my stories, no, people are getting gutted in there.

You're going to see people gurgling on their blood when they get hit in the neck and they laying there dying and you in the cage watching them die. It's fucking disgusting. You can smell the shit leaking out of their body. You know what I'm saying? When someone's getting fucked in an open bay dorm and they got a blanket, you smell shit in the air. This is how this really is. So when you talk to a teenager like that, then they're like, oh, I don't want to be.

want to be in there. Yeah, no, it's different. But when you just give them the little runaround, it doesn't do it. So when you see a little paroo, next thing you know, you got a little Zach, and a little Zach wants to do the same shit, and then he ends up getting flipped shot, whatever, ends up in prison because he was trying to portray some shit. But do you ever worry with your channel? Like, do you like to have a good mix of real gangster shit and then sort of like expose and fake-ass gangster shit? Because, I mean, if- it's however it comes up. But at the end of the day, gangster shit is the key words. So whether you faking it or you keeping it real, but it all falls in the same category.

Because if your whole channel was just like videos about situations like the little Piru thing and the Island Boys, it might start to look a certain way, right? Well, I mean, bro, y'all representing the shit that I put in pain by. What fuck you mean? You know what I'm saying? Like, if y'all came to prison doing that, we gonna get you. So it's different. Like, what's somebody gonna say, oh, you made a YouTube video exposing him, that's okay, we didn't open his fucking body up. You know, you know, how bad of this shit could have got? Like, is he dead? Did he get shot?

No, no one cut him? What are you complaining about? I'm doing very civilized shit right now, and I'm making money off of it. I could get somebody stamped and do a video on this shit after the fact and make my money back after getting somebody stamped, but I'm not doing no shit like that.

How do you feel about the fact when people say that your channel is just kind of like highlighting negativity and you're really just sort of profiting off of other people's pain and all this murder and shit like that? I'm sure you've had people say that kind of shit. What's your like go-to response to that? Fuck them.

The fuck? You think medication for cancer is free? Is health care free? No, they sell that shit to you as you die. And if you ain't got enough money to pay for that shit, you're just dying. You know what I'm saying? Like, well, I can't speak on this shit because of what? Oh, you're not from this city?

I don't give a fuck. I'm going to speak on whatever the fuck I want to. So you're telling me I can only speak on my own gang, my own pain, my own losses, my own this and that. spoke on that. And then I speak on everything else too. I mean, people are going to feel how they feel, bro. If I cured cancer tomorrow, they're going to say I didn't do it fast enough. My granny died 10 years ago. Fuck you. Now you want to cure it? So it's like, people are going to have opinions. I'm not here to change your opinion. I'm not here to be liked. I'm just here to do me.

Whatever comes where it comes with it. How do you feel when people say that you might be, like, racist for the way that you're running your channel? Does that ever come up? What? How? I don't know. I just feel like that. I feel like that's probably something you've read in the comments. Oh, because it's mostly like black people that I'm covering. Right. All right. Who the fuck do you see me around?

How many white people can you point out on my Instagram that I'm next to? My daughter's mixed. My girl is black. Like, you know what I'm saying? This is who I'm around. It's the culture you can say that I'm in. It's the same shit for you, bro. Motherfuckers are going to be like, oh, he don't interview enough white people.

What the fuck? This is the culture you tapped in with, bro. It is what the fuck it is. You know what I'm saying? So who's really mad? What I need to do, a Billy Bob interview with a fucking skinhead. And here the Yago field's equal opportunity now? I mean, like, Dame Dash asked me why I don't interview like country singers.

I was like, I don't listen to country music. I mean, bro, I've had people say shit that ain't even in the streets themselves, and they'd be black. Oh, interview your own people. Bitch, you can't even step in the areas I'm stepping. And you black. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it is what it is. People are going to hate for whatever reason.

I can't really focus on it. And the bigger I get, the less time I have to focus on it. Right. So at this point, it's just, you know. But people do pick and choose, though. Even when it comes to, there's people that don't fuck with me simply because I'm white. Right.

And then there's people that don't fuck with me because I might have put their artist on blast. Like, say cheese. I didn't know Spardom Godham was signed to him. I blasted Spardam Garnham's paperwork. Say cheese went on an interview with somebody talking about, oh yeah, the Internet's twisting this and that. I ain't twist nothing.

I read the fucking paper. Did you? So I posted this shit on my gram. he commented on it and then deleted his whole comment. What did you say? He was just on some shit like, oh, when I grew up, I thought snitcher was me and you did a crime together and I tell on you to save myself, right?

I mean, you could twist it however you want to. I don't know where SA cheese is from or what type of life he lived growing up or where his perspective comes from. But Spot him, God, I'm literally told on his homeboy and said, oh, he went in the bathroom. I think he hit a gun, and he was the last person to go in the bathroom.

Police go in the bathroom. They find two guns. his homeboy goes to jail. What do you call that? If me and you were in a car together and I got a gun on me and I put the gun in the fucking glove box and I don't say nothing and you like, well,

he had it, he put it in the glove box. What is that? Right. You told it on me at the end of the day. I mean, I'm not going to expect a civilian to take a gun charge for me. So I'm not going to put you in that type of position round no guns if I don't feel like you're going to hold it down. But you're supposed to be spot them, got them.

What the fuck does that even mean in itself. The name, you're supposed to be a gangster. Right. Oh, Eden. So it's like, bro, come on. Now you can't be half stepping. You can't be one foot in and one foot out. You'd be the gangster or you're fucking telling. You think the fans actually care about snitching at this point? No, this society don't even care about snitching. I do and I make money off the shit, so I talk about it. But you can be a successful snitch if you want to, a lot of people lie. And you got to understand there's more people that are willing to tell than anything else. Right. Like, more people, normal people, will tell on you.

Then there's gangsters that will tell on you. It's a very small population of people that are actually going to hold it down. So it's just, you know, it ain't that big of a deal, bro. You just don't do shit in front of people and you don't fuck around with certain people. When I was looking at your most popular videos, I think number one is like a 16-year-old kid in Philly wearing skinny jeans or whatever. And it's a fucking wild clip where he just sort of jogs down the street, shoots a motherfucker in the head, point-blank range. And then just sort of jogs back off. And it's just like, I don't know, something about that clip when you watch it where you're just like, what the fuck is wrong with these kids these days?

Well, Philly, Philly a whole other breed. Yeah. The motherfuckers in Philly, like everybody that I met out of Philly is solid. And it's like, you know, there's certain cities that have a culture of killing. Yeah. Miami, Jacksonville, Chicago, Philly, murder rates. Detroit. It's just like Tampa when I was growing up, you could get your ass wood.

You could fight. We'll have a hood fight, 10 on 10, whatever, 15 on 15. Now, since drill came in, everybody wants to be a shooter, everybody wants to kill. But those certain cities have always been on that type of time. Everybody know how Miami rock in West Palm Beach, you can get shot. And in Florida, we always have big shit. So it's not a little hang-guns, nah, motherfuckers are AKs, M-16s, all type of shit. And just now everybody wants to be a shooter because that's the wave with the music.

Everybody wants to kill people. You know what's funny is a lot of times I'll see rappers who aren't terribly close to the like street content coming out and saying that it's so fucked up when lyric, when people say that, you know, music is the cause of a lot of violence. And then you'll have somebody like me or you or, I mean, I'm pretty sure I've heard Vlad or academics say the same thing because we're all super close to the music and we really know what people are saying in songs and how that lines up with killings and shit. And all of us will say without a fucking hesitation, of course the music is. just encouraging the killings. Like, that's the main thing that's fueling this shit. That's social media. Man, look, you're not allowed to tell on people,

but you're allowed to telling yourself in songs. Right. You know what I'm saying? Nobody has a problem with that. But now, if I do a video breaking down your song, that would motherfuckers would look at me some type of way. Or if I were to ask a rapper, I'm like, what about this lyric?

I mean, they're going to look at me like I'm a fucking detective. You're a bitch, you don't said the whole fuck. You talked about how you did it. You know, King Vaughn. That's a motherfuckerking storyteller. He did this shit how he was supposed to. to though. You're not getting nobody off of that shit. There's certain people

that they literally tell it all and then act confused when they get caught. It's just like common fucking sense. But everybody wants the image, bro. The image is what's so deadly. Everybody wants to be viewed as that killer. Everybody wants, that's the same shit with gangbanger. You got a lot of fake gang

members that never did nothing for nothing. But they want the reputation of what it is to be one. So that's the understanding that I have is I've witnessed the firsthand violence and how we even got the fucking reputation. GKB, our shit, we know as being aggressive. We know as 1090, we know as, you know what I'm saying?

What's 1090 again? I mean, there's a couple of different ways you could break that bitch down, but it's more or less what is most publicly known as set tripping. Right. And what is set tripping, running down on motherfuckers. You could be blood.

If you fuck it up, you're doing this weird shit or whatever, we're the ones that can handle that. We're not sparing you just because you blood. And then, you know, you could set tripping really any other gang but it's just like putting it on my name, I went at it with more bloods inside a prison than anyone else. We got so many fucking, like, we got so much numbers. We'll have inner beef, because there's no one else to beef with.

I had a lot of situations where motherfuckers was like, nah, ain't no white bloods. So what the fuck it is? We handle it how we handled it. You know, I'm not folding my shit, so I got to get head up. I'm hitting somebody up. To be honest with you, I hit up more bloods than anything else.

I wasn't hitting up crips left and right Zoh's left and right I was beefing with other Bloods so that's where set tripping comes from you know what I'm saying that's why I put it on my shit just like somebody I have you know A, BK whatever EBK this whatever anybody killer Everybody killer that's where that came from for me

but I set itself You'd be cleaning shit up it's the clean up crew That's just how that shit go Right Yeah I like how you say it so that I just know you mean it That's all right It just really sounds like it means it. You're kind of new at the whole YouTube thing,

but you're also kind of feeling like an OG when it comes to your particular section of YouTube at this point. How do you feel about seeing the whole community unfolding? Obviously, we have unscrupulous individuals like Hip-Up Daily, et cetera, insider hotspot who really have no journalistic ethics in a field where, you know, not like that's really something that gets discussed amongst YouTubers that much. But, I mean, that dude is like capable of the same.

scummy as shit imaginable and he doesn't just do it to you because he's ripped off entire swamp stories videos etc i feel like it's just like on some shit like uh it's got to keep pushing yeah you can't really let to fuck you up what blew my mind was it wasn't that he was just copying my content he was copying my content he was bigger than me right i'm about his 700 000 subscribers that man's already at a million so it's like kind of made me feel good like damn you ride in my wave you making the same thumbnails as me now my shit's hit And one thing about it that you can never copy is you can never be me. You can never have my face.

You can never have my opinion. You can't, you know, you can word for word all the script and shit. But that's why I've always included me in my videos too. So that there's that factor of people that come for me to hear my opinion, to hear my, you know, they actually like me as a YouTuber. That's why I'd be appreciating the fuck out of the fans and the subscribers and everybody. I think it was, I was getting ready to do a lavish D interview. so I'm sitting on my computer for a nice long study session to get ready for the day

and I watched a whole lavish Vlad interview and then I watched a whole Mazi interview and then I watched a random Hip Hop Daily video and it was so obvious that they had just watched those two interviews and just taking notes and like completely based it on that 100% and I was just like like what the fuck well that's the thing too is um hip hop daily like I've shot back like there might be something he covered and I'll cover the same thing. But it's like, homie, I get the real information. So I'm picking up on a lot of shit you left

out or vice versa. He'll come to my shit because he know I got certain. Like, that's how I really got him in the first video. He did a video on somebody from Florida. I was the only one that had that information because it only came from the paperwork that nobody had. And he copied

that. And that's how I knew, like, you're word for word taking my shit. Because you're bringing shit that I know you didn't go as far to get. But it is what it is. Yeah. Is there anybody that stands out to you on the YouTube world that does content that's, you know, about their specific scene or about anything in particular that stands out to you?

Like, I like the way they're doing shit. I mean, as far as me, like, my biggest things that I watch, I watch you, I watch Vice. And then sometimes I get in the shit that has nothing to do with the style of content I do. Like, that's theory. What's it? They go around just doing all type of crazy shit, traveling to different places, helping people out. there's someone I just started watching he's out here in L.A.

He was tapping into like the Chicano lowrider culture. Oh, that guy. I like the travel stuff. I like the seeing different cultures and the different foods and the different things. Like, I'm not really always trying to hit about some gang gang shit because I'm already in that shit, you know? So it's not like for people that ain't in it,

they're fucking interested in it because it's something like they've never heard of or never lived versus me. That shit get old as fuck. You know, so I like really just watching shit that ain't got nothing to do with what I'm into. But as far as people that I'm fucking with, it's really just that. Like, I can't really like name anybody. Like, oh, yeah, this specific YouTube would be doing their thing. Right.

You're more like expanding your mind when you're not working on your own content. Yeah, I'm not really watching that same type of shit because I'm already so much in it. Yeah. Does it ever get repetitive? Or, like, how do you keep it interesting for yourself when I'm sure there's been times where you're covering a story and you're like, God damn, this is the same exact fucking story. that I've covered 50 other times about some kid killing a bunch of other kids. I become more selective and how much of a story I can bring out of it.

So sometimes I'll focus less on the crime and I'll focus more on the person. And, you know, kind of do like a little autobiography with it. You know what I mean? Where I'm really giving you the life story of this person and obviously the crime that led to their demands. So it's just I got to be selective in the type of shit that I push. Yeah. What's the furthest you that are gone to get details for a story? You have it on the phone with random people you meet on Instagram that are close to the situation.

I mean, bro, I'll fucking find out everybody that's involved in a situation. I always reach out to the family because I always include the go-fummy for the family. For the victims and shit, I always like to include that go-fummy. Just one little simple step that I take that a lot of people don't. Just so it's like I can at least bring attention to the cause. You know, a little girl gets killed in a drive-by, have that go-fummy, whatever, whatever. But, I mean, as far as information, yeah, I'll just reach out to the family or whatever, and then I'll just go through the court sites. To be honest with you, getting this shit for you today was the most I ever reached out.

I had to contact the state attorney's office, pay a fucking fee for them to get it. They send it to another motherfucker. And this is the reason I'm able to get it. Like, he broke. I know that. We know that. So he ain't going to be able to get this because he don't have no $400 to spare. You know what I'm saying?

But when you want to actually pull a whole case, shit costs money. You have to get in contact with people and know how to do it. And when people try to say, oh, I didn't snitch, I can prove it. They don't even know how to do this. So how are you going to prove it? You know what I'm saying? But the majority of shit that I get, it's free to access. You don't have to pay anything. Right. If it's like Georgia, you got to pay like a dollar for the paperwork, bro. Right. And then you just make a couple thousand off the video. But you care a lot about being factually correct. Because that's all I have to stand on. There's a lot of people in the YouTube community at this point that are,

very happy to just put whatever the fuck out there. Yeah, that's what I feel like is the major separated for me. That's what I can stand on is, you know, if it came from me, there's a document that I can pull up that has what I said. You know, it's just, it's finding the simple ways of doing a lot of the same things, a lot of other people are doing, but doing it your way that makes you stand out. There's some shit that happens, like, you know, for instance, Young Dolph dies and, like, I believe you did a video about it and stuff.

And then, you know, there's people like us who are really only going to report for the most part on the stuff that the cops are reporting or that journalists are putting out, etc. But then there becomes this whole sort of little universe on YouTube of people trying to basically put every rumor, every social media idea that's floating around. They're talking to people in the streets. And a lot of times the information that they're putting out there sort of aligns itself with the truth at some point. You end up figuring out that maybe they floated 10 different theories of who the shooter. might have been and then it ends up that one of them ends up being correct. Do you pay attention to that shit? Or do you... If I know it ain't obvious bullshit, I'll address rumors, but I will address them as that. You know, there's a rumor circulating that this happened and this might

have happened. But I also, I like to kill the rumors myself and clarify on what actually it was instead of just running off with whatever's going to get the most views, you know what I mean? Definitely. Yeah, because, you know, it's kind of crazy to me. like academics back in the day with the Warren Shirek thing I think he was like the first YouTuber to get big off of really just covering street shit yeah but it I didn't like about him bro it's how disrespectful he was with it and I think that that looking back at it that's the thing that he regrets because I had that conversation with him on his podcast where I said

not only do I think that the Warren Shirek was fine that it existed like I think the Tony took at times was kind of disrespectful and he's learned from that but I think that's the work that the local journalists should have been doing. It was like, actually, if there was shit in the newspaper or on the local news about what these rivalries were all about, I mean, that's actually like valuable information to the community, except it takes a lot of fucking energy for journalists to find out that shit. A lot of these YouTubers, like, you are doing the stuff that journalists should be doing

that local news has kind of been killed. Like, academics, well, I respect to him. Like, I don't got nothing against him. It's just like his satire comedy. It's like, you know, you really. really speaking on people that are dying and getting killed and shit. And it's like, that don't make somebody want to do something to you, you know? And, uh, but as far as like him getting all the information and everything like that,

like that's a major step into YouTube. So respect to him, but for the motherfuckers that are willing to look into that shit, I just feel like you deserve what comes with it, like as far as the success, because you really putting in that work. It's not as simple as I'm just reacting to someone else talking about. And even if you're a reaction channel, cool. I'm just saying for me, it's a lot. of fucking work that I don't think a lot of people realize, you know, so it's very satisfying

to actually be getting something off of that. I feel like your channel was kind of like, you were one of the lead people who sort of realized like, oh, you don't have to be talking about rappers, you just have to be talking about interesting shit that's happening in the streets and people flock to it. After the fight with Pino, I realized how bad beefing on YouTube is. a lot of people be thinking oh that's a quick way to blow up and it somewhat is

but as fast as they come they leave because there's nothing substantial about you except for the fact that you have to keep talking about people eventually it's going to come back to you you know so with that situation when people heard what they heard whatever whatever

really what solidified it bro was when y'all did that interview you asked him did he use a weapon what did he say to you Did he dance around it or did he just say yes? I can't remember. I don't have to touch back on him, but in the comment section, I'm ever having a bad day.

I'll go back to your interview with him. I just look in the comment section. Everybody is showing love. Really? Well, I respect him. He's standing out there on his shit. He ain't got nothing on him. He's willing to mad love, you know?

But once I stopped, because after that point, there was nothing to talk about, you know? He wanted me to, oh, yeah, come slide on me, come, because that's going to keep him going. Same thing with K Frog. I ended up getting into it with Kay Frog, because he allegedly called 911 or somebody. It was really some fluke-ass paperwork,

but it's the simple fact that if I'm going to do it to Pino, I got to do it to you. You know what I'm saying? I can't pick faces. And so they making posts, talking shit, disson me, but I'm not responding to none of it. Versus beforehand, my pride, I'm on all that. Yeah, fuck me, fuck you.

Once I stopped talking to people, their views started dying. Everything about them started dying. And now we're left with what is left. Is there anything substantial about them? Are they doing anything? K. Frog's still who, he do his ones and twos, but his shit ain't doing nothing. And then Pino is pretty much just non-existent. It's a while when you realize that you don't have to respond.

Yeah. It changes everything. And how much power is actually in the response. Yeah. It's a pride thing. That's why I said pride is a down. I'm following with a lot of people. I'm keeping it alive by responding to you.

If I don't speak on it, you die out just as fast as everything you're talking about. 100%. What's your overall opinion of, you know, the streets and all of the shit you see going on where we see in New York and Chicago, it's all about the switches, and there's just this crazy, like, new level of violence that's sort of been ushered in. What's your perspective on that? I don't feel like it's a new level of violence. I feel like it's always been like that.

The switches is just a fad. You know It went from switches Before that it was Glock's Before that it was Draco's Before that it was Max There's just certain guns That make its way in the hip hop

That everybody wants to have The 90s was tech nines You know what I mean Like there's always been a certain gun For every generation 80s movies was the fucking Berettas You see them in the movies Now you want one whatever

So you know I feel like now It's just cool to have a switch And motherfuckers don't even realize Having that little piece of metal Is a machine gun charge Or some shit I think it's like 10 or something. Wow.

But it's literally just getting caught with the piece is you're getting charged with a machine gun. Right. It's just cool to have it. Now, yeah, you're going blaze fucking 15 people at one time. You causing damage, but motherfuckers can do that with a regular gun. You don't need a switch to hit up all them people, you know? So I feel like the violence is the same. It's just it's cooler because that's what the music is on.

That's what the drill is on. As YouTubers, I cover that shit. motherfuckers is in tune with it. People love the lifestyle that they don't have to live. And that's what's fucked up about it. There's a lot of young-ass kids that's in that environment realize how many fans they can get by living in. And everybody that loves everything about you

has never been anywhere near any of that shit that's going on. They live in the suburbs comfortably. You gotta live in that neighborhood where you just killed somebody two streets down. And now they're hitting your house up with your family members are at. And you're trying to do this to get the family out the hood. You want to rap, whatever.

but you're going to suffer losses that come with that lifestyle. It's a wild time to be alive, yeah. Yeah, the music is like more, like street music is more popular than ever. It feels like we just are kind of seeing that play out over and over. Yeah, and I mean, bro, even if you took the music out, it's just the inner city culture, bro. We've got a whole bunch of poor people in one place. A lot of people are mad at the fucking world.

There's a lot of mental health shit that's not getting addressed. This is a lot of just not having resources. And shit's been like this forever. This is literally how shit was designed. It's just like the prison system. I did a video on the history of Florida State prisons. It's one of my least viewed videos. The amount of shit that I was able to learn, though, I loved it.

I didn't make really any money off of it. But the simple fact that I learned, Florida State Prison only started after slavery ended. There weren't prisons when there was slavery. Really? They ended slavery. That's when they started putting prisons. So it literally just transferred to doing another thing.

And a lot of southern prisons are known for making you work, work camps. You know what I mean? It's the same shit. Obviously, you've got to commit a crime to end up there. There's a lot of people that didn't even do the crime and still end up there.

So, you know, the streets are set up the way they're set up. People benefit off of people staying poor. It's just a part that comes with it. That's facts. Do you think that you're going to be able to break a Boston hip-hop artist? as a result of your channel i'm not tapped into boston anything you don't give a fuck about

that it's not that i don't give a fuck it's that i'm not tapping in with some shit where i stay at i moved there for a simple reason the simple reason was to not be involved in everything really you know what i'm saying like my family and shit is separated from everything i do in the streets the homies i don't bring my daughter around members right i separate that lifestyle because i was doing this before her this isn't something i want to introduce her to i don't feel more valid by bringing and my daughter rented that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just, I don't,

I personally don't do that. I don't really tap in with Boston because I don't want to be dealing with that shit in Boston. We came out here with the numbers that we came out with to make sure everything runs fucking smoothly. When I'm down in Florida,

wherever I'm at, I'm good, super good. This ain't no paid security. These are the homies. You know what I'm saying? Big facts. But my situation in Boston where I lay my head at, I'm not in a neighborhood.

I have to worry about nothing. That's how I want to keep shit. I don't want to start tapping in the streets because when you pick your friends, you pick your enemies. You're going to inherit whatever they come with. I'm not willing to do that where I live at. Definitely.

Could you see yourself having more of a role in music overall, though? I can see him with some artists. You got a rapper chain. That's a real rapper chain. I've been around a lot of rappers. I've been around a lot of rappers. I've seen a lot of rapper chains, and that's up there for sure. Big shout out to Mazz in New York.

But yeah, got the Emerald Cussing and all that. But I like music. I appreciate music. I could definitely fuck with doing some stuff in the music industry. I myself wouldn't want to be a rapper. Yeah. Because I'm just not good at it. I'm beyond.

You tried? What? Yeah, that's why I got this fucking tattoo in my face. I was 18. I said, fuck it. I don't want a job. I'm going to get this so I can't get a job, and I'm going to be a rapper. This shit say dream.

And either Chinese or Japanese, I forget which one. And it was supposed to be keep your dreams in sight. And yeah, within, I don't know, I got that, I turned 18. By 19, I realized I'm not going to be a rapper. Right. And fucking, so, you know, I never aimed to be a YouTuber either. Right. You still getting tattoos?

Yeah, I haven't had one in a minute, though. A lot of the shit that I got, like, a lot of this was prison and in the streets or whatever. But most recent I got, I don't even know which one was my most recent. I think it was my arms, big-ass buzz light, yeah, shit. What made you go with the Grand Theft Auto Hand tattoo? I was a huge fan of the game and that's how I felt like I was living. And there was some kid in the dorm. He looked like he had some weird charges, so we used to just take all of his shit.

And more or less, he got a gaming magazine and it had the grant the photo logo. So my homie Bebo, he, free Bebo, he doing 25 right now for a murder. He then there cut somebody's head off. Whoa. Yeah, he caught a sex offender that was selling dope. He only had like two or three inches of skin attached. He removed all that shit. He got 25 years for that shit.

He did the tattoo and he told me the story about it as he was doing the tattoo. I didn't know. I just knew he had mad times. He's like, yeah, I was hitting him up in the neck and da-da-da-da. I'm just like, yeah, all right, hurry up for this shit. But this is the bro, though.

You know what I mean? It was like, I ain't kill it, but this was also, it was also like my last T-O-H because I'm in the cell with the homies as I'm getting it. This was my most painful. tattoo. When they got down to the fingernails and shit, fucking hurt. I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to cry, but I'm in prison in the cell with the homies I can't. You know what I mean? I gotta just eat

this shit. Right. But Grand The father, I just felt like that's how I was living at the time and I wouldn't have the tattoo. You know, I got trigger happy, but at the same time, trigger finger, it could be the Xbox trigger. We're not talking about guns anymore. I can't touch guns. I'm a convict the family. You can't, huh? No, fuck no. That hurt? Just knowing that you're not allowed to? Yeah, it breaks my high, bro. Because I wanted to be the one to teach my daughter about guns and shit. Like if they told me right now you pay a quarter million and we'll take away your felonies, I do it.

I drop that bag. I mean, if Kodak got a pardon, why not 1090J? Yeah, I mean, Biden ain't doing shit for nobody. I don't think Biden's going to be the one that looks out though, so we might have to get somebody else in office. He's going to pardoning a bunch of fucking Antifa people and shit.

He ain't pardoning you. I don't know. But shout out the Kodak and shout out the Trump for making that happen. I'm trying to tell you, man. Shout out to Trump, man. We'll look back of that as a great moment in our, in our history of the country. Yeah, that was major.

Yeah. I think it was him and Wayne, right? Yeah. Who's the king of Florida right now? The king of Florida? Yeah, rap-wise. The Kodak? Gotta be, right?

I mean, in my opinion, I wouldn't even say king because it's like, you know, different cities be on different shit. But as far as, like, the biggest rapper that everybody fucking with, Kodak is a Ratchet. He's got to be. Ratchet. Ratchet is the king of Florida.

Oh, yeah. Ratchet. That's the king of Florida, man. But Kodak definitely put him. though for Florida 100% code because you gotta think before him it was like there wasn't nothing for so long and then he really kicked the door in and then now there's a shitload of Florida I'd have said it coming out right so it'll be motherfuckers in Orlando motherfuckers in Tampa Brabara County Miami the hair that's all

they doing in Florida right now like he he really kicked that door in for a lot of other people so he always got to get that respect from Florida you know he kind of set the template for a whole fucking generation of rappers that came after him out of there, you know? Some more literally than others, because there's some who are kind of like Kodak clones, let's be real. Jacksonville, Jacksonville pulled off with a whole other,

you know, they're like a baby Chicago right now. Now that we're a little bit removed from the height of that beef, what's your perspective on the whole Jacksonville thing and all that shit? As far as who's beef? The Julio Fulio Young and Ace

thing and everything like that. Like, what are your thoughts on that? I was kind of amazed when I realized that they both don't live there. I mean, I just feel like killing is killing. Like when I was in Jacksonville, I mean, not in Jacksonville. When I was in prison, every jit I met from Jacksonville had 10 years about a better. That is the city where killing is the culture. The motherfucker's been on that.

So for people to be like, oh, yeah, they was inspired by Chicago. They copy in Chicago. And boys, Ben, smacking shit. They just like the music. And now they're doing the music like that. So as far as like Julio, Fulio, I don't actually spoke to him. Shout out the bro. We don't chop it up a few times

But I mean I don't got no sides in it I don't got no favoritism in it I'm actually in contact with Ksos lawyer Really? Koso's lawyer was the one that taught me How to get the paperwork Really? Yeah, so I got a lot of people's attorneys

And shit that hit me up like hey yo When you do your next video I want you to include this piece This is what we're fighting for This is a major part of the Because people can spin a story To sound how it sounds A lot of people talk about everything

Against Melly A lot of people don't talk about the shit Melly got going good Really? A lot of people don't talk about how there ain't no murder weapons. A lot of people don't talk about it ain't no actual fucking like, you know what I'm saying? So you're able to spin shit how you want to spin shit. And a lot of these rapists' attorneys will hit me up like, yo, this is the update on what's going on with him.

Right. You know, when Koso got slammed in the jail, I got sent the video first. I just didn't post it. Really? Why didn't you post it? I didn't post it because I don't want my Instagram to get taken down. I got to have a dummy account if I'm going to show somebody getting slammed. Right.

You know what I mean? So I'm trying to really just keep that shit steady. but I knew of what happened. And I couldn't post it on YouTube either because then they just demonetize the shit or whatever. Right, but you'll talk about it without showing it. But that wasn't enough for me to really speak on which is him getting slammed.

I got to give a whole story. What's your workflow look like? Do you have a bunch of videos that are sort of like halfway done at any given time? Or is it like you wake up in the morning, you pick a topic and you just start writing and researching? It's usually that. Like, I'll drop one video and then it's like a shock smelling blood in the water.

Like I'll just be hungry. I might draw videos for the next 10 days straight, and I might take off two weeks. Right. You know, so it's really fucking sporadic, but I'm blessed to be in a position where I got my daughter, 25-8. Really? Whenever I want to hang out with her, we hang in the fuck out. Whenever I want to work, I can work. Whenever I don't want to work, I ain't going to work.

You know? And it gives me a lot of time to do a lot of shit that a lot of people don't have the same opportunity to do as far as just being with my kid all the fucking time. You know, and that was a major thing with COVID, too. Like, I've literally been next to her. her whole life. Only time she's not been next to me is if I'm on a trip somewhere. You had a kid right at the beginning of COVID?

I had her in 2017. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I had her, when I plead out the probation is, yeah, when I pled out the probation, my girl was still pregnant.

Right. So that was one of the main reasons I pled out instead of fighting the case. I can certify, get probation, get a job. This is going to force me to be a normal person, work, and, you know, be here for the birth. Right.

You know what I mean? But going through COVID, just staying at home, working from home, I'm always with her. So our relationship, our bond is super tight. Yeah, and doing what you do, COVID was probably kind of perfect for that since it's just going to keep you home. To work really. So that shit obviously was booming and fucking everybody's tuned into YouTube, but it never declined neither. So obviously, like, with everything that's going on and everything opened back up, the channel, still continues to do better and better.

Yeah, like, how do you stay motivated? Because sometimes you get to the point as a YouTuber where you made a shitload of money and you look at the bank account, the bank account's looking pretty good, and it's like, am I going to work my ass off all day to make this video, make a couple thousand bucks? I mean, shit, like, it's definitely the best use of my time,

but also it's not really changing anything for you. I'm sure you kind of go through that in your head. Well, I stay motivated off the fact that I got like three homies right now fighting murders. I got one homie that just played out the manslaughter got hit with 15. I got another homie fighting a mandatory life sentence from a home invasion. I'm not so successful to the point that I'm not still tapped in with the pain and with the with the downside of the street shit, you know, so I hear about, homie just got locked up for this.

I'm around certain people, you know what I'm saying? When you have success in this by yourself, you can forget where you came from. I'm still very tapped in with where the fuck I came from. So I still have that in my mind. But motivation, though, I used to just keep $10,000. If I didn't feel like doing a video, I'd go count that bitch. By the time I'm done counting, I'm like, yeah, let's do this video. You know, because just to be able to just pull out $10,000 and just count that shit like that,

now I'm just look at this chain. Just pick that bitch up, putting it in the light. Yeah, let's do this video. You know what I mean? Do a couple videos getting another chain. Huh? You could do a couple videos get another chain. Yeah, that's the thing is it just pays itself right to fuck back.

It's like, I write, boom, I drop this on that. Let me just do a good, you know, banging out this month, and then I just got all my money back. Right. So that's the motivation. Definitely. What's the most important shit to you in terms of how you raise your daughter? Like, what's the most important shit that you're trying to instill in her

that you want her to have in her life that you didn't have? I wanted to be happy. And I wanted to understand. I'm always with her. You know what I'm saying? I always got her side, her back. I'm not going nowhere because that's main things I didn't have. But I got a lot of that through my aunt.

So my aunt was there to pick up the pieces for a lot of things, so I'm very close to my aunt. So, you know, it's just I don't, I want her to understand everything. She's going to know who I am. She's going to know the type of life that I live, and I'm not going to hide anything from her. I'm going to be the one who expose her to shit and show her this is what it is.

This is what it is. It was me being interested in certain things that got me in certain positions. You know what I mean? So I just want to really be able to instill a lot of the things that I've learned along the way. And then, you know, she's already good. You know, she's financially straight already. I don't want her to know that. It's not like I want to raise her in Beverly fucking Hills.

No, I want her to be around everybody the same way I was. I want you to respect poverty. I want you to respect the differences in people's lives and have that understanding. My kid was born in Beverly Hills. Yeah, that's a blessing. That's what's up. That's just where the hospital was. That's what's up.

Nah, man, that's what's up. That's what's up. It's just little shit like that, you know? Yeah. Because there's going to be a lot of things that she's not, she ain't going to have to learn it to highway. I had to learn it all that way just for me to understand it. Right.

So it's just being able to, you know, tell her that. Every once in a while I interview somebody or, I'm watching another interview and they'll ask about their childhood and the person just says like yeah you know my childhood was pretty good like I had good parents and you know like they took good care of me I had I had a good support system around me and that shit always stands out to me a lot because not that many people say that but that's like the best gift that you could give your kid is a nice normal fucking upbringing without any significant trauma you know well a lot of people too People feel like it fucks with people's credibility.

Because they were trying to say one of the rappers from Chicago went to a private school. And they tried to dub his whole career off of that. Like, bro, when I started tapping in the Orlando drill scene, I was surprised how many of them dudes that got killed or arrested for killing graduated high school and were like athletes. And just, you know, once they got out of high school,

they had nothing to do, they got into the streets. For me, I had dropped out and everything. Like I went to Juvie and I went to Juvie and that. and I couldn't go back to school. So I was going to a school that you could only get into if you've been in Juvie. So everyone I was in Jovey with

went in the same class. We got to get patted down, metal detector, all that shit just to get to the class, you know? So I was surprised hearing like, damn, these grade A motherfuckers just turned into assassins in a matter of like 12 months.

Right. But that's literally, you know, you got people that come from happy homes that still want to get into some shit. Yeah, that's some wild shit that people would look down on somebody that much for the fact that, you know, when I hear that they went to private school,

probably to me means their family was relatively responsible with money and were able to put money aside to prioritize their education, which is a great thing. Although it does definitely make you wonder, why did you become a fucking savage? You know who you can usually tell, got a bag, bro? Like, you got nice teeth. See, that's the next thing. I'm trying to get like, bro. I'm trying to get my shit hit up. I got to get the veneas. Like, AD, how AD got this shit? that's how I'm trying to get because that shit just changes the dynamic of a lot of shit. But if you go to jail

with some nice teeth, motherfuckers going to think you either the police or you just came from a good home. Right. Because that's literally like braces as a kid, that's major. That shit is expensive. If people have money or you just have some good ass insurance or whatever it was, but that's another little thing that you pick up on. But it is

crazy how having a nice set of teeth just makes you look so much more sophisticated or with it. And like, if you see somebody with really bad teeth, it's weird how your brain kind of like, thinks like, oh, they might be like a drug addicts or whatever, like they might be a method. Even though that's kind of fucked up, you could just have bad teeth. That's the first thing somebody going to think.

Straight up. It's weird, but your brain kind of does that for you. That's a fact. Well, I mean, for number one, it's your poor hygiene. So, you know, I mean. But it's like most of the development of your teeth happens when you're so young that it's like, it's not really your fucking- But when are you going to get the homie CMAs shit for?

He got to get that shit. There's a lot of work to do there. When I met him, they weren't so bad. But then all of a sudden he's got the big, but he's about to go back in. He told me. So, uh... That shit, that dude, man, like... Like, we got...

Yeah, for real, for him, bro. Like, we got respectful, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's funny as hell, bro. Like, for real. He's staying on business. It's like, when you look at somebody like him, first and foremost, I think he's, like, funny.

Yeah. His personality and shit is funny as fuck, bro. But for him, that's really him. That's his life And it's like You can respect that shit Because it's like Homie be standing on his shit

When it came to whatever He owned that But at the same time It's like If he don't have the right people In his ear, bro That shit can go left quick And I feel like

There's been a lot of changes In his click over the past couple I feel like a lot of people Are just waiting on his downfall bro As sad as it is to say He got to talk like that In person like

Yeah it doesn't get turned off That's one thing I respect about him man Like he keep it You know what I'm saying Like he really look out for the you know he really care you know what I'm saying like he ain't he really weren't about the money like that he just really like really for the people you know what I'm

saying so and and when it come to this culture you know what I'm saying whether you be whatever whatever whatever you is you know the game culture like I say it's always looked that different so for somebody to turn that around no matter what you is and make turn it into a positive give people a different outlook on the whole thing I respect that all day you know I'm saying because like the DP like some people were trying to act like the DP was going to fuck his career up no I'm like nah that that's that's you're proves that he is who he says he is more than anything. I knew for a fact.

I said that shit happened. Yeah, it was going, because it's like, same shit that happened with me. You either going to, you jump me or you use something on me, it's going to make you look bad. It ain't going to make me look bad. They had to, I mean, they did what they did, because that's how they're supposed to do it.

But you got a few motherfuckers that's going to laugh at, you know, oh, you got this, you got that. And then the majority, they're going to respect you for standing on your shit. Because it just goes to show, bro. If you willing to go against that with your own people, You're willing to go against that if you get caught by yourself with another group, you know? But just for him specifically, like, be fucking with his shit.

He actually subscribes to my shit, too. Really? Yeah, I checked that shit not too long ago just to see who was on it because his subscribers don't want on. Yeah, yeah. So he's up there. So shout out to him. Yeah, because he can't keep an Instagram. So he just doubled down on YouTube and making good money off that shit.

You know, another thing that I like about Brodo is, it's like you said. It shows the authenticity and who he is. milk ain't gonna get a DP like that he don't be with nobody when's the last time you seen like all these hoover's just talking about him he ain't never met him yeah we fought with him

yeah you fought with him reposting your shit I understand the game if he wasn't reposting your shit you wouldn't talk about him To get a DP you gotta be somewhere in tune so let's look at the that's the fact let's look at the Pino's situation that man came to California with a registered

sex offender why he ain't getting the DP so this is a major fucking thing right here I can't wait for you to repost this shit on the clips. Shout out of No Jump of Clips, by the way. Hey, subscribe. So, uh, another thing about that is the only time Pino was ever seen with other hoovers is when he went over to K-Frog's hood and gave K-Frog's homies bandanas.

So all of K-Frog and his homies put on orange bandanas because Pino went and bought about 10 of them bitches. And Pino did the video, yeah, who said I can't come over here? I'm good over here. It's the only time you ever seen him standing next to see him. somebody claiming Hoover and come to find out it was K-Frog and K-Frog's homies. Come on, huh. That's the only one you can get next to.

And then you got this big fucking MMA sex offender that you rode around L.A. with. Get the fuck out of it. It's just crazy. It's a wild world. It's crazy. My fuckers want to be gang gang so bad. Then when you're really in this shit, you really just want to, don't even mention

the shit because you know how fucking, you know, this shit get used against you. If you want to do a podcast with Krip Mac, you can just use the studio. Bro, we hang the fuck out. See, the thing is... How he talks is how I talked when I first went to prison. But taking out all the seeds of my vocabulary, when we're hitting the band team. You stopped doing that?

Yeah, I stopped because it was fucking retarded. I mean, you're making the YouTube videos. It's going to look kind of unprofessional, right? You think anybody wants to fucking hit me? Like, I already, like, when I read, bro, that's really when that Boston shit comes out. And he parked over here, and he fucking, when I'm talking, it's really like,

I got to get pissed off and that shit to really be hitting. Because I use a lot of flawed or slang when I'm talking to. But you know how fucking exhausting it was to talk like that? The first five seconds? I thought I had to because I was in the dorm with a crit from Orlando. Shout out the flex. That's how he talked. So it's like when we got a count off, you know, instead of saying five, he'll say jive.

Instead of saying six, I'll stay bix. It'll be standing right next to each other and sounding off like that. Right. You know what I mean? So it's just like you're kind of competing with him. Like, all right, you're going to do it. That's the most amazing thing about Crick Mack is the C's instead of B is as cool, but the fact that he is able to say five instead of like two or four or one, that is amazing.

And he barely slows down and he doesn't. He said he'd be keeping it 50 on 50s, yeah, yeah, bro. We fuck with it. If C-Mack ever want to come down in Florida, we're going to show double up. That's a fact. You listen, man. He can pull right up in Tampa. He's going to be super straight. He got his own slogan and everything.

Yeah. But I like the commitment to the big booty sitches. Yeah. Because like six suiti sitches, that just sounds stupid. Bro, listen. At the same time, I understand he'd be on that box and shit. You know, we got some homies that's his size. We got some football players in this bitch.

Six, four, six, five. We got somebody six, six outside right now. We got some big shit on the lineup, too. So we can get some shit like that going, too. That'd be hard. Yeah, yeah. Not on no, not on no set trip and shit. We can have some.

loves versus cribs no we've no we viewed them in the paint you know what I'm saying you got a little son to work with you know so you know so it's all right got little boxing league shit already down there in the neighborhood so right I have a vision that one day there's going to be a live 1090 jakes slash no jumper podcast in Boston I'm with it all you got to set it up that would be a moment listen I'm playing with some money we can go in on the spot mm that would be crazy We can make it happen. Bro, the crowd at that.

I'm still trying to take you down in Florida. Oh, we got to go. Let's see that. Man, listen. You come down there. It's lit. It's lit. We'll take you to the strip clubs all that.

We're going to link up with track? Man, we can link up with whoever fuck you want to link up with. We got to link up with Kodak. I want to be there for the 1090J Kodak link up. I don't know him personally. And to be honest with you, he fucked with them zoos. He is old. I went through with a lot of them zos, but there's something that I do fuck with.

I'm not opposed to speaking with them, talking to him, whatever. I just never have versus like track. No, I can get track. We can. I fuck with track. And you know, once a melody situation figured out, you don't get around them boys too. You're just waiting for something to happen in that case

so you can make a video, huh? No, I'm just really hoping the best for them, you know? But it started Monday and they're still doing jury selection? Like, there hasn't been any update, right? I don't even think it started. I think people just went to saying that shit. Nobody actually checked the court site on what's going on. But, you know, that shit goes his way.

That's going to be one of the way. of the biggest things in hip-hop. Facts. This shit gonna be fucking major. Facts. Factor. Yeah, and I mean, at the same time, like, bro, from Florida, bro.

A lot of people rooting for him. It's scary to think that we could see a rap. We're seeing a rapper face the death penalty right now. I don't think he'll get death. There's a lot of shit that they got to prove that I broke down in my video. And when they were confronting the lead detective,

a lot of the evidence he was trying to say was assumption. Oh, I assumed that he would benefit off of this financially because that was one of the factors. Right. And securing a death conviction and, you know, it's up. We don't know how it's going to go. We just got to sit back and watch what happens. Free melee.

Definitely. Definitely free melee. Definitely. All right. Was there anything we did not touch on? It feels like we kind of touched on everything under the sun. I'm doing a lot. Yeah.

If we missed anything, I'll fly back out. Let's do it. Well, a good spot to you that. Always asked me that here and I never really know what to say. I only see Chinese food, like Mexican food and fucking break. No, you did it. I got some, I got some Del Taco last night, that she's fired. I ain't even hoarse.

You did a podcast with the homies out of Knickson Gardens and whatever. And they took you to the one burger spot. And that looked good. I'm like, dang, bro. Yeah, man, that looked at the fire, bro. I'm like, dang, bro. That's a spot. What are they over there in Nickson Gardens?

Bounty hunters. Bounty hunters. Yeah, yeah, then bounty hunters. That's a lit area over there. Oh man, it looked crazy. But those burgers were stupid, yeah. Yeah, what else is lit to do out here? Like, that's on some turn shit.

It's weird because it's like, what do you do? You go to fucking Disneyland? Well, fucking, how about this? What you got going on later? Let's go do something. I don't know. Where are you guys going? We got a camp, wherever you want to go.

We got a mansion, bro, with a poker table. You got whatever you guys play poker? Yeah, man. I don't play poker like that. I don't even know how, but he played. He played. I feel like when people know how. to play poker, you usually know right away.

And I was like, I feel like if you play poker, I would know, all right. I stood at the gambling table with a knife. I never did the gambling. I just made sure shit ran. It all depends. Like, you know, in prison, you know, we did, you know, they got their own kind of ways of plan sometime.

Like you got Omaha, you know what I'm saying? You got Texas hold them, you know what I'm saying? Straight on two cards stud, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. If I get locked up, I'm gonna learn how to play Omaha. Oh, man, Omaha, Omaha fire. I love Omaha. That's just spicy.

Don't get locked up though, especially out here. That should be wild. No, we got to stay out of trouble out here. That's a fact. I don't know. We just have to teach you Omaha, man. Yeah.

You got to go to Rodeo. I mean, Hollywood Boulevard is lit. You definitely soak up a little bit, but I mean, that's Hollywood. Rodeo's just shopping, though, right? Rodeo's just shopping, yeah. It's all the designer shit. That's where everybody would be getting robbed. I didn't do a couple videos on them, getting hit up for watches and shit.

And they follow people home from there. Yeah, I'm trying to go home with my chain. Yeah. You're going home. Come on. You're going home with it. You're going home with it. When you hop out the Uber and you go.

you go to the 7-11, are you tucking the chain or no? Fuck no. No. Even we was in Inglewood, that motherfucker dancing from the time I got off the plane. Yeah, you got that bitch out. Why did you go to Inglewood, though? Because you know that's like the number one blood city in LA, right?

That's where LAX is at. We went to the first liquor store that we could go to. And it was dead. And then there was some Mexican homies in the whip that had some shit to smoke and fucking... It's just a little convenient that the biggest blood that I know stops over in Englewood. The biggest blood city in LA that I know.

city in LA that I know of, I hear. Like, we didn't, we had. We had, I didn't, we had to anybody, but there was a lot of fucking people out there. You know what I'm saying? I was like, dang, we're in Englewood for real. I'm like, brother, they, man, crazy deep out.

Because we went inside of the cornerstone and there were nothing but blue flags and shit. So we was all this way to make a joke. Yeah, like, we ain't seen nothing red in this. We were like, we might be in the wrong one. We're looking at the baseball hats. They said, no, they had, they had, they had like two red flags.

But they had them, but they wasn't, they wasn't displayed as much as the, as the blue one, you know. Every shade of blue and then one red. You rock only Boston hats? Or what else? What other hats you rock? Bulls.

Okay. Shit like that. I really like just having a big ass B. Yeah. I could never rock a New York logo. No. Why not? Fuck long.

Just because I grew up in New Hampshire and it's like, even though I don't give a fuck about sports, it's like, you know, I just feel like my mom would be deeply ashamed if she signed me with a New York logo on me. Somebody gave me an L.A. hat and I wore it one time and I really didn't know how I felt about it because I do identify with L.A. so much at this point, but also it's like, I am not a L.A. got, even if I happened to have retired away here in L.A. It's crazy. I think the New York got the best looking fiddick cap ever, I swear. I don't know why. I ain't from New York,

know what I'm saying? But I love it. I love they fit the cap. It is aesthetically pleasing. But also, if you wear a New York hat out here, everybody's going to just be like, for me, it wouldn't be serious. It'd be like, oh, neighborhood, neighborhood. But for anybody who's actually from the streets, they probably would not want to rock it Unless they were from them. If we're going to do this East Coast, No Jumper, whether it's in Boston or Florida, we get that shit going.

I like that idea. That should be fine. Because we got our first live show going on, but I'm already thinking like, holy shit, we could go to different cities and tap in with big-ass people in different places. You sit me right behind No Jumper News. Hey, we're doing the paperwork report. Your favorite rapper told. And we're going to be breaking shit down.

But you never had anything that you reported on turn into real life shit for the most part, Like nobody ever is trying to come after you because of something you talked about in the video, right? That you know of, right? Not that I know of, but I got more smoke than what I know of. So I probably did a video on somebody dead homie and they might feel some type of way. I don't know that, though. So I just got to be militant and wherever I'm moving at. You know what I mean?

You never know what's out there. Same thing with you, bro. You don't know who's going to try you one day. You just got to be ready. Very ready. We got a new store opening. Armed security from day. one. Can I have any fuck shit?

Yeah, middle seven folk gonna get boomed at that spot. Nah, no, no, no. The arm security is there to make sure that doesn't happen. We're gonna be good. Fuck. Three hours. I ain't done a three hour one a long time. I feel like Joe fucking Rogan.

Damn, three hours passed over there. Listen, I've been, I'm right here by the clock, so I've been watching. You know what I'm saying? So I've been paying attention. He got, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a three hours that's unnoticed.

because, bro, you got a lot of talking about, brother, so it was straight. I knew we needed an hour just for prison talk. Man, it was... Never mind the shit has happened in your life since then, so... Yeah. For sure. Anybody want to shout out, anything that the people need to be thinking about?

I want to... Can I, you know, shout out CK, you know what I'm saying? Shout out Quayl, shout out Spank, shout out Wu. Shout out the big sister's, Remy, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying? So I just want the whole GKB family, you know what I'm saying? Free all the bros.

I love everybody, man. S.L. Respect. I know all I show. Yeah, as far as me, everybody he said, you know, obviously the homie ratchet. Who are vain in tune, gotta get the fucking tune. Active. All the YouTubers, bro.

All the people that's always just looking for a way to crank up something in their life, you know what I mean? Like, I literally came from nothing. I started off this shit in the hood, you feel me, rats and roaches, this and that, and I don't turn that into this. So. I love seeing YouTube change people's lives. Yeah. Like my boy- I didn't think it could do that.

I didn't know about how much power this shit really had. My boy 16 shot in visuals from Chicago. He just had a no-limit Cairo on there talking shit about G Herbo and all that shit. And he just had his first like really crazy month. And it's just like, you know, this really warms my heart seeing that, you know? Shout out to 16, because you know, after Zat TV, he'd really been the one carrying the torch for Chicago. So, you know, it's good to see he's getting that recognition, because I've seen a couple of things that he's put out.

He's doing great shit. I like my boy Swayze out of the Bronx, too. He's talking about that Bronx shit. That's just crazy over there. Yeah, and he's just, there's a lot to talk about. Yeah. That shit like Iraq right now. Wild.

Free K-Flock, though. Free that man, yeah, for sure. That's a wild situation. That's a wild one, for sure. Not the Amiris. Yeah. Lerius. Not the Amirian assassin.

Montclair Monster. Oh, for sure. 1090J, end of sentence. Appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, bro. Much love. No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world.

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