No Jumper - The 19Keys Interview: Feminism Ruining Relationships, Bitcoin Crashing, Selling Courses & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today I'm in here with my wonderful co-host, Compton A.D. And today we are talking to someone who you brought to the table. You're a big fan of 19 keys in the building. Man, pleasure to be here. I appreciate y'all having. 100% man. How you doing?

Starting point is 00:00:17 Man, I feel amazing about yourself. Excellent. Starting off the Wednesday right in the booth. So, yeah, tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're coming from and what your early days were like. I'm from, I was going to California. St. Louis born, left when I was like two, so I was raised in Oakland. Back and forth when I was a teenager, you know, people know me as a thought leader, you know, educator.

Starting point is 00:00:42 Also, you know, entrepreneur, businessman. So I've been creating, you know, high-level groups of black men and women, traveling around the world, teaching and educating for like the last seven to ten years. You understand me? So I built up a platform really just through my perspective, you understand me, on the world, different subjects, industries, teaching people's skill sets, everything from blockchain, the mindset. You know, they have a show called High Level Conversations. Right. So High Level Conversations does extremely well where I bring in different guests.

Starting point is 00:01:17 And I never call it an interview because it's just a conversation for me. I started to watch a few episodes and then I realized that I was learning way more about the guests than about you. Yeah. So that was a little, I'm a little bit lacking in knowledge, although I did manage to learn about a few other people along the way. Yeah, I think I do that on purpose. You know, I got a lot of shit in my past, to be honest with you, but it's just not that interesting for me to talk about.

Starting point is 00:01:40 I already lived it. I want a little bit of an understanding of, like, where you're coming from and stuff. So what were your parents like? My parents, pops from Illinois, moms from Missouri. You understand me? They converted to Islam after they met each other, had nine children together after they went to UCLA

Starting point is 00:01:59 and seen the honorable minister Louis Fawr Khan speak my mother was the first one who converted and then my father followed then into Islam as well after her. You understand me? But he was always in the streets, you know, real black revolutionary of his time.

Starting point is 00:02:14 So for him he said it was easy because once he heard the teachings, he said it resonated with him already. It was almost like common sense to him. Right. Interesting. So like you say that you like got into the whole world to be in a thought later like how much was education prioritized and what kind of ideas were they put in your head as a young kid well i mean you know always so my parents main idea that gave me was

Starting point is 00:02:35 just teaching me i was a god at an early age you know i think early on that's like a god complex like you feel like you can't be harmed like you know you impervious the thing it's like the immature perspective of it but as you grow you understand the responsibility of having knowledge yourself self mastery discipline different principles that you attach to yourself right and and then just the power of the mind, mentalism, things of that nature. So for me, not education in the sense of like institutional education, but like self-learning. You understand me? And like learning through my experiences and my perspectives and then learning what was my gifts

Starting point is 00:03:11 and talents that I can utilize to build and teach and educate others. Okay. How'd you do in school, generally speaking? I think I was a decent student in high school. But I didn't really like high school for this. I didn't like the way that they did. taught us I remember I had this teacher Mrs. Ashley man she was a math teacher and I used to be able to figure out how to get the answer to the problem but not in the way that she

Starting point is 00:03:35 wanted me to show the work right so therefore she would either say I'm cheating or she would just flunk me for it because I didn't want to do it the way she wanted me to do it but I realized like it wasn't about developing me it was just about me passing through so from there on I think I learned learned a lot about people where it was like if I can just pacify these people and I can get along with the teachers and they had passed me through. Right? So it changed my perspective on the world in that particular incident because I think she gave me a big lesson even though I think she didn't even understand what she was doing at that

Starting point is 00:04:06 time. Right. You understand me? So I went to college for a year, dropped out because I caught a case. And then took that case to trial, beat that, you understand me? What was that? Never ended up going back. What did you get caught up doing?

Starting point is 00:04:20 In Oakland, I was accused of being a part of an assault. Somebody snick. put my name in a pal other names, said that I was there, you know, but we went through that whole trial. My father and my brother was our co-defendant, and at the time in Oakland, they was really at the black Muslims. Your father and your brother, you caught a case altogether? Yeah. Damn, that must have been a good bonding experience, I guess. I feel if I got a case with my dad, we were really getting close. It might have been, you know, hindsight is 2020 looking at it, But you know, I think my childhood was wild, so, you know, we had a lot of bonding experiences.

Starting point is 00:04:57 You know, I think the greatest lessons I learned from that, though, I remember going through it, and I had like this fat fumbling lawyer, you understand me? I remember after I beat the case, he was like, yo, this is like the first case I ever won. You understand me? I was like, you should have told me that before I ever had you. I'm glad he didn't tell me that before. I would have been sweating, you understand, but my older brother, he was fighting from behind the bars. You understand?

Starting point is 00:05:18 Because he already had, you know, different cases that he was fighting, and I remember. I remember when I was locked up, I think they first got me in Iowa or something. I was traveling through on this bullshit job doing like marketing sales or something. For a summer job in college, it was the worst. And I remember the cops pulled up on me and they ran my name just because some folks called this because we in the neighbors, it's an all-white neighborhood, two black men, cut that off, two black men in the neighborhood. And when the cops came, they ran it and it was a long list.

Starting point is 00:05:52 right and I'm like no that could be me so the cops they've small town cops like they cool at the same time they like no this can't be you somebody must to use your name I'm like yeah y'all think you're right somebody must use my name but turn to find out they ran it twice and it's like we got to take you in so they go to the jail take me in you know I end up having to spend like a month and some change there before California came and extradited me but I remember I was reading this book it was a fiction book I read it it was like a whole movie you know when you visualize a book in your head

Starting point is 00:06:22 and it was the first time I had read a fiction book all the way through closed that book and after I looked around I realized like yo this shit ain't got me no closer to you know being free and I remember when I got out to California and my older brother gave me a list of books to read every time I used to see him when we were standing trial and I read books it was like you know the art of deception strategies of war different books on law

Starting point is 00:06:47 a bunch of different things that it actually placed my mind to where I can start thinking strategically about how to get out this situation. Right? And I remember even started researching things about law and different case law in telling my lawyer as far as different motions he could file, you know, I start reading over the case. And I remember telling him one time he's like, yeah, I try that. He told the judge and it actually worked and got a piece that a case dismissed, right, during trial. And after I beat it, I just always remember thinking about how I never would go back to, you know, know, just taking in fictional information and not taking information that I could apply towards

Starting point is 00:07:26 my freedom of power and then thinking about how, you know, 80% of cases young men end up pleading out. Not because they're actually guilty, pleading out for lack of resources, you know, or just a lack of knowledge or fearful. Well, I will say, though, in defensive fiction, and I read very little fiction in my adult life too, but in theory, you could learn a lot from a fictional story and an author I really truly a skilled author could create a scenario in a fictional book that would be instructive and, you know, based in reality and teach you a lot. You know, I don't really like find myself that drawn to it either, but I mean, I understand why some people do like it so much.

Starting point is 00:08:05 I agree. You know, I'm just explaining what the mindset was at the time where I really just took it rigid. And you really needed like real deal pragmatic information at that point. No, I mean, you know, essentially when you find your case, you are a lawyer. You know, I think that people got to get used to doing things for themselves. Like whether it's a doctor, whether it's a lawyer, whatever it is, you should also get educated in that area of whatever you're going through to at least assist, right, in your freedom or your health or whatever paradigm of subject it is. Right.

Starting point is 00:08:37 Because, I mean, when you think about this, this is my problem with the streets, I guess, just because, like, when you really look at, like, a young man who makes a decision to do something like go commit an armed robbery to get a couple thousand bucks, or sell weed to make some money or whatever. It's like, I know exactly what they're doing because I was in that place in my life too, which is that you want to get to the point where you have some real capital to work with financially.

Starting point is 00:09:00 You don't want to have to spend your life fucking slaving away in a target or whatever. So you decide that you're going to try to skip ahead in the game a little bit by doing one of these fast cash grab type moves, you know? And then in reality, though, that does occasionally work for some people, but then if you get caught, it's like it immediately takes you from square one to like square negative 20

Starting point is 00:09:20 where like all of a sudden you have a criminal record you might have jail time you're going to pay fines lawyer fees all this shit basically makes your entire life way more of a struggle and you would have been way better off working at 7-11 but when you're young and filled with testosterone it's

Starting point is 00:09:36 very very hard to see that those are the stakes of the game that you're actually playing. Sometimes people you know even with that they got other conditions you know what I mean like I got homeboys they're like man my mama we're about to get eviction We got to do something and you know you don't have a male figure in the household to look up to so you you know you may be 14 15 16 you're the man of the house and you take it upon

Starting point is 00:09:58 yourself to be like you know what I gotta go get this money I got to make this stuff happen and then get lost to the system man it's a messed up thing environment stronger than nature so you know I think that is everybody nature to be good but your environment start to dictate your circumstances how you think what influences you right when you think about your options your options is really only what you got in your head. You understand me? There may be a million options in the world, but you're only going to choose from what you know. Right. So if nobody educates you or exposes you or mentor you, when you think about getting money, you're going to choose from a small list of options, right? And so therefore, the streets lose just because it's not

Starting point is 00:10:37 enough options and exposure in the streets. It's a limited belief system. It's a limited thinking because it's limited exposure. If you're only exposed to the types of money-making schemes that people have in the streets for sure yeah you're like basically putting yourself consistently like every every money scheme in the streets is basically one that has jail on the other side of it like yeah there are some things like you could be kind of become like a t-shirt dealer or there's a lot of legal businesses that people in the streets basically are doing you know buying a fucking local store or whatever but buying a local store and and grinding out a profit over years and years is like a way different business model than getting somebody to front you a kea coke right and saying like as a kid

Starting point is 00:11:15 like I ain't never thought about buying those stores. Because the capital requirements, you just would need like 100 grand, probably more. Our influences are the guys that we've seen with the, you know, I'm seeing homeboys with BMW 745s and they're in the neighborhood. They're getting all the girls.

Starting point is 00:11:31 And it's like, that's who I want to be like. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, we're going to help you. We're going to put you on. And, you know, somebody like an OG suicide. Like, I used to see him getting money in the hood. And I used to be like, damn, like, they're kidding it over there. I want to be like that.

Starting point is 00:11:44 And you don't have nobody. in your household telling you like, you know, do this and do that or like a strong male figure. You know, like a lot of our homes, man, where we come from, they're broken. But that's what kids love to just like focus in on the positive and ignore the negative, the same way that I knew white kids who watched American History X and were like, oh, hell yeah, white power, that's sick. And ignore the fact that if you watch the whole fucking movie, it's a movie about how becoming a racist is a really, really bad use of your life.

Starting point is 00:12:12 But I saw kids that went to school with who saw that movie and were like, fuck yeah, Hitler. You know, it's like kids are fucking dumb. Yeah, I mean, consequences don't feel immediate. You understand me? You start to think towards gratification and reward. Right. Like for me, growing up in Oakland, I had the dichotomy of both, right? Seeing the streets, but then also seeing the black Muslims that actually had things, right?

Starting point is 00:12:33 Like, first motorcade I've seen was black Muslim men in all suits right in down Oakland, you know, and they actually own things, right? like own the buildings, own their own schools and health services and things of that nature. So I got to see both. So I think my exposure already, you know, made me start thinking about my opportunities different. You know, like even if in my environment, I wasn't being properly geared because, you know, you're still in the streets growing up in Oakland and St. Louis. You're going to get the best of worst worlds. You understand?

Starting point is 00:13:06 It's like whether you're going back and forth between Oakland and St. Louis, St. St. Louis is crazy. Oakland is crazy. But at the same time, having that exposure changed my paradigm. You understand me? And that's the big thing. You know, you got catching L.A. that never leave. Right?

Starting point is 00:13:22 If you take them out the country, it's impossible for them to think the same again. Right? Because once something is expanded, you got to feel that space, and it don't contract. I remember when I moved here and realized that half of y'all never been to the beach. That's crazy. And I was like, what the fuck? You live, like, 13 blocks from the beach and you don't go there? And it's good trauma therapy.

Starting point is 00:13:39 And I know guys, I know guys, bro, who won't come to Hollywood. You know what I mean? Like some some guy, older guys I grew up with, I'm like, hey, come to Hollywood, come to the club, mess me one day. They're like, nah, that's too, it's too far. Like, they feel like, you know, they get jittery. They're like, no one coming out there. Like, you get, you just get accustomed.

Starting point is 00:13:56 And I know what it's like to not travel and see, and not see the world and things like that. Like, you know, at one point of time, I used to think my square block on Carlwell and Compton was the end all be all. I thought I was gonna be there forever, die there forever. I thought my granny was gonna be there forever.

Starting point is 00:14:12 like you know what I'm saying until you started expanding and you got other people to help you out and you start seeing in the world you like this shit is so small man there's so much you can do you know what I mean and having problems in the neighborhood it's like I can literally take a plane and get a two-hour plane flight and all my problems that I think is just weighing down on me can go away yeah I mean and even your enemies right because your enemies usually don't have resources you understand me so when you move outside a particular distance they ain't got resources outside them distance. Your problem is usually only in a certain radiance, right? Outside that radiance, all of this shit in your world don't exist anywhere else. And the irony is that most people

Starting point is 00:14:51 who have like enemies and like gang situations or whatever is like those people are about as similar to you as you could possibly imagine. In a lot of situations, they live like a half a mile away from you. They wear the same clothes as you. They hang out with the same chicks. They do everything the same. But for some reason, like this is because that, I heard an argument the other day about like, is a mixed multicultural society more likely to have problems than a society that's very, very uniform in the sense of like two examples. If you had a country that's all black people or if you had a country that's some black and white people, who would have more conflict? Now, on one hand, you say like, well, black people and white people have many different cultural things, right? So maybe they're going to have more conflict.

Starting point is 00:15:34 But I mean, in reality, when you look at Chicago or L.A., it's not black people and white people killing each other. It's fucking very much within people's own groups. And you could kind of imagine. So I think that that argument's bullshit that like multiculturalism causes violence. Yeah, I don't think that that's what causes the violence. I think the, you know, classism, the poverty rates, you understand me, education rates, right? How the environment is developed. All of that is what causes the violence, right?

Starting point is 00:16:00 The violence is just proximity. If you got, if you take that same multicultural and you put them in poverty, then they're going to cause crime against each other. So then the crime rate is going to be higher against black and whites because they live in proximity of each other. Right? So I don't think it has particularly to do with race in that particular perspective because the people at the top, they trickle down affect the issues. You understand me? Like when you look historically across America, you can find the root of an issue. And I think a lot of people just look at the cause or the effect of it.

Starting point is 00:16:32 But the root is where everything starts. Anytime a doctor want to diagnose something or they want to create a vaccine for. for a virus, they're going to try to find the root. Where did this virus emanate from? Because now you have all of the ingredients to be able to fix the problem. Right. And so when you're looking at societies, you're never looking at the people that's caught up in it.

Starting point is 00:16:51 You're looking at what causes the root of the issue. Right? Most hoods in America, once you educate people, you automatically change the way they think in a way they're going to go about problem solving, where they're going to go about conflict resolution, right? Because now they have more options that they trained on when they think about how can I solve my issues, right? If I want to make money, money is, money be screaming at people all day long. You understand me? Like you have to try hard not to make money. You have to be good

Starting point is 00:17:18 at, you know, procrastinating. Because you go online, somebody trying to say, you of course to make money, right? YouTube saying you can make money. TikTok saying you can make money. Somebody saying you can get trucking to make money. I've seen somebody was breaking down the ambulance services on earn your liege on how to make money. Money is being screamed at people in a million different ways. You understand me? And at some point in time if a person really has ambition, they go pick one of them ways and they go choose. In the hood, though, those ways weren't there, right? So when you see drug dealing, you see pimping, you see what a robbery, you see, you know,

Starting point is 00:17:51 breaking entrance, those are your options. So you go choose from those options. So it's like I empathize with anybody that grow up in the streets and they have limited exposure because I understand what creates who you are. And it's often from your childhood. You understand me? Like if you go out and see an adult man who making bad decisions, he was training that way from when he was a child. Right.

Starting point is 00:18:13 And that's why, like, I kind of like, I feel bad for, you know, our older people, you know what I mean? Our grandparents, our mothers and stuff because, like, they didn't grow up at a time where all these opportunities were presented to them. You know what I mean? Like, even like right now, my mom, you know, my little brother lives with me and he's, he wants to be independent. He wants to do things his way. And my mom, like, she can't see it. And she tells me like, hey, tell him that what he's trying to do, like, you know, have a plan B. And I'm like, nah, mom, he can literally do this now.

Starting point is 00:18:45 Like, you should tell me, stop playing the video games. Can't get paid with video games. Now we can get paid to play video games and we could do things like that. And it's kind of messed up because it's like, we would be far. I think our people would be farther ahead if our parents had those type of opportunities. It would be more businesses and stuff like that. And it was like, you know, our grandparents grew up at a time where it was like, all right, you get a job. You go to school.

Starting point is 00:19:06 You get a job. you know you wake you retire and then you know you get to live what 10 15 years the way that you want to live and then you teach your kids that too it's like all right you go to school you get married you live this way it like and my uncles in them too they tell me all the time like i had dreams of doing stuff it just it just how was it going to happen it was no way available for them unless they were going to like literally leave home and just go do some other shit and it's like like you said shit is just screaming at you now you can literally do anything you could eat food online and get paid for this shit now.

Starting point is 00:19:39 It don't make no sense. But what do you say to the dude who isn't like the charming YouTube friendly creator who everybody wants to see eat food because yes, it's dope for that person because, okay, if you want to be a successful content creator, like no jumper has four million subscribers so that we could pay, you know, 10 hosts, you know, so it's like it's a very like outsized reach, whatever, like the top Twitch streamers, they might have, you know, 10,000 people watching them. at any given time, way more than that, 100,000,

Starting point is 00:20:10 just for them playing a video game themselves. It's like, it's kind of easy to imagine how if you have that sort of star power, how you can make a living on social media. But I think it kind of goes under discusses, like what are the opportunities, or how do you speak to somebody who is maybe more of just like a regular person who wants to make something out

Starting point is 00:20:27 of themselves? Like, what are your thoughts to them? Well, number one, everybody at working, no jumper is not in front of the camera. This is true, and there's many more jobs behind the camera. And the beauty of it is, you know, always say everybody got their genius right I think the word genius is probably the most misappropriated word in history because you know you should just mean like a person pulling

Starting point is 00:20:45 out what's every in their spirit that's attached to the creator you understand me like whatever you got that you can bring out that's your genius so a person can be behind the camera and they're a genius at that and the person in front of the camera has a genius chrismatic quality and a great speaker but you could never do what that genius does behind the camera right right but we don't look at them as equal right we give one more value than the other. So therefore, people don't truly place the proper value on what their genius is. So they don't really develop that because they feel like one particular style of talent

Starting point is 00:21:16 is better than the other. But one, one thing I like to teach is, number one, learning your personality type and your intelligence type, right? Like everybody don't even know what their type of intelligence is. That's three I tell you about school. You know, I'm a deductive learner. You understand me? I like to deduce information and break it down and I can infer things.

Starting point is 00:21:35 That's just the way I think. We got a society that don't know how to learn that don't know themselves. When you start from yourself, then you build outward. Like, I don't like being in, if you're a type of person, I don't like being in front of the camera. I'm not the greatest speaker in the world. So you automatically go cut out all of the jobs that's going to force you to do something you're not good at. Because when you grow up in the hood, oftentimes a person may go towards a career or a goal that's actually in their weaknesses. Right?

Starting point is 00:22:03 Like, you want to be a rapper, but you're not good at rapping. You're like, you don't have the fucking star power. I see it all the time where somebody wants to be a rapper. And I look at it up, I'm like, bro, you can barely fucking talk into the camera. Like, what are you talking about? Like, this is not for you. But it's so many ways to make money. You could goddamn be a truck driver or you can goddamn go buy a truck.

Starting point is 00:22:21 Now, you can't just start off with a truck, of course. But, you know, getting your CDL license is something you can do. You can do it be a graphic designer. You can go look at the list of all of the things that's on fiber. Those are all jobs that people are doing behind the scenes. But do you buy into the narrative. that Fresh and Fit is out here pushing, which is that if you're a truck driver

Starting point is 00:22:38 or a custodian or whatever, that you ain't getting no pussy because all these bitches are money-hungry, Miami bottle, rat, groupy fucks. That's the message I've learned from watching some of the Manosphere. Now, I know some brothers that drive trucks

Starting point is 00:22:52 that, you know, they do amazingly well. I think the issue with, like, people that's in that area is they don't know how to make it look sexy a lot of times, right? Truck drivers have some of the worst diets, right? That's a good point. So I was talking with my bro, Alex. shout out to Alice Good Energy. I say we need to start a program

Starting point is 00:23:07 where we teach truck drivers we give them a fitness program you understand me so you can actually change the persona of how truck drivers are perceived. So now you think about a truck driver a muscular and a healthy that changes because that's a bread

Starting point is 00:23:20 that's making $300,000 a year. Now all of a sudden that's a viable option. I think it's the oftentimes you become a truck driver you're going to put on a flash shirt, put on the trucker hat and then you fall into the paradigm on what a truck driver is. It's like even what I do as an educator, as a thought leader, this is not something that was just automatically seen as, you know, a popular or sexy idea.

Starting point is 00:23:43 It's something that you have to create for yourself. So I think it's up to this generation to kind of give a makeover or whatever their industry is. You understand me? And then women go go to that once they see a man, you're pulling up, you ain't always in your truck. You understand me? You ain't always doing wherever your profession is. but outside of work and how you make that work look actually counts. Right.

Starting point is 00:24:03 Because now you no longer placed in that category. But just in general, like people, these days, it feels like a lot of girls have this real aversion to a guy with a regular job, regular job. Or even a guy who owns a small business. We've all seen these clips of girls on social or on podcasts and stuff saying that a guy needs to make $2 million a year or whatever. How do you see that? What is this disease that has infected the minds of so many young people that they think

Starting point is 00:24:27 that who you mate with is basically dependent on like their financial status and not you building something with them. Well, I ain't gonna lie, man. Social media and podcasts ruin the game for a lot of people just because it gives people false expectations on what value is. You understand me? It's like

Starting point is 00:24:43 the moment that you equate value to what a man has instead of who he is, you're already losing. You understand me? Because who he is is how he going to treat you. You understand me and what your future going to look like? What he has is not going to make you happy. Right? That's going to attract you, but it's not going to keep you.

Starting point is 00:24:59 So, but unfortunately, there are a lot of women who live in a delusion of what value is. You understand me? So they had passed up. It was a preacher that was given, it was a woman giving a breakdown. She said it was these five floors that they take a woman through.

Starting point is 00:25:12 On the first floor, she said, you know, here are all honest men in the world, right? She said, now every time you go to a floor, you can't come back down the next floor. Okay. And she says something to the effect. Yeah, you go to the second floor, these are honest men, you know, and tall, right?

Starting point is 00:25:31 And then she said you go to the third floor, these honest men tall, and they got money or something of that nature. Right. Right. Then go to the other floor, she said, is honest man, tall, got money, and always going to treat you right.

Starting point is 00:25:45 And he said, the lady is giving her the option that you can keep going up, and they're like, I ain't going to lie, this is a lot. That is a good visual representation of what dating is like and how fucking treacherous it is for women, because as you go up, like you might find a guy who has all the right characteristics, and then he gets hit by a bull, and he's dead.

Starting point is 00:26:04 And then you've got to find another one, but you have to deal with the rest of the pyramid where they might not have all these attributes. And it's like, at some point, do you settle on one of the lower rungs, or do you spend your whole life searching, knowing that there's basically a big old fucking shot clock on the wall saying, hey, one day you're going to be 39 and you ain't going to be able to make a baby anymore. And then peep game. the last floor, so she chose to go up to the floor and they say, this floor only exists

Starting point is 00:26:29 to prove that you cannot please women, no matter what. You understand me? So this is where a lot of women are existing on that floor right now. A lot of chicks are on that top floor. They don't remember why. They passed down all of the good men with all of these qualifications to look for some shit that don't exist. Right.

Starting point is 00:26:46 Right? Like I'm of the 1.001%. You understand me? I don't plan on practicing polygamy, so therefore, you know, you know, you may want a man like myself but you're not going to be able to get that because that's rare right it's certain things in the world that are just rare right but we've made rare become a standard as far as what you want so therefore you walking around with a disillusion as far as what's actually available to you right so you can't make your choices based on what's not available on your dream idea most people

Starting point is 00:27:15 live in fantasy land and a lot of people get that whole Disney world shit where you think about happy ending prince charmin that's made a lot of young girls else disillusioned and they carry that into adulthood on what they believe a perfect partner is. And then you got hip hop and courtier that creates this synonymous towards everybody can have a baller that's so-called eight figures. You understand me? And don't treat you forever great. But also you got to be a street nigger that got principles of a good man. You understand me? And that just don't exist. Right. So you got to first like women, if they ever want to find a good man, they got to change what they attracted to. And the fucked up thing is that the further you

Starting point is 00:27:54 up that pyramid, the guys who are good looking and have money and are famous and etc. Those are like the number one guys that might be like, yeah, maybe I don't want to be in a relationship right now. Maybe I would rather just fuck whoever. So as you get further up the pyramid, it becomes more of a challenge. Yes. Yeah, you got all the options in the world. Like here's the most dangerous thing.

Starting point is 00:28:16 This is one people don't empathize with, you know, men specifically, but women too, too, is that our grandparents, they had, you know, possibly had long marriages. and great-grandparents and before that, but they didn't have social media. Social media gave men the options of kings and emperors, right? But the difference between kings and emperors, they'll have concubines. They would have different kingdoms with different women, and that would be seen okay because of the enormous pressure, responsibility, and power that they have. But today that exists where you basically, you know, now you have a database with all of the

Starting point is 00:28:48 most beautiful women in the world. And if you so choose, you can actually go send them a message. And they may just reply. You understand me? Then you have women that's going to market themselves to you, right? They got their ass out. They got their tities out. They got that effect.

Starting point is 00:29:03 They go pay to get their body done to get your attention. Right. Right. So now you got young men who oftentimes ain't grew up with fathers. Masculinity at an all-time low. Don't have no gang. Don't know how to actually deal with women. And then you throw in social media.

Starting point is 00:29:17 This generation has the hardest responsibility of staying focused and being in monogamous relationships. And the market is fucked up because now women have so much power and they can easily like shoot for all the guys who are basically at the top of the totem pole of guys. So what happens to the guys who are, you know, acne ridden, fat, not bad personality, they don't have money, etc. What happens to them? Life was already hard for them. Life was already hard for them when I was a kid. But nowadays it's way worse because my grandparents, they lived down the street from each other. And that was normal at the time.

Starting point is 00:29:52 It used to be that like 90% of people married somebody who lived within like a couple miles of them. You know? Now that it's not doesn't need to be the case anymore. And so what happens to all these fucking dudes who are considered basically like not of value in the sexual marketplace where they turn into fucking weird ass in cells, schools shooters, crazy fucks? There's a lot. There's a mental health crisis for young men that podcasters even worse. Yeah. But there's a mental health crisis that I think is kind of ignored and it's ignored.

Starting point is 00:30:21 because the fucking feminist world that we live in doesn't want to be like, oh, men's mental health is important. We should be paying attention to what they're going through. And that's the reason why I think everybody made Kevin Samuel is the villain. It's like, hey, you know, if you put a man and you say, hey, I want Beyonce and you don't have these qualifications, everybody going to say, you can't never get Beyonce, you this, you this, you that. But when you flip it and you say, hey, well, you got this guy that's Jay-Z, and every woman feels like, I got what it takes to get Jay-Z. And they might not want actual Jay-Z,

Starting point is 00:30:54 but they want someone who somehow embodies like most of the attributes of Jay-Z. But then at the same time, women got it bad because of, you know, because of the new feminist movements, because of the new waves of what's taught as freedom, what's taught as sexual freedom, what's taught as liberation,

Starting point is 00:31:11 you know, a lot of these things are more oppressive towards their overall happiness in the long run. You understand me? Like, you may get a career, you are masculize yourself, because oftentimes in those environments you don't have a lot of men stepping up so women said no we're gonna go for the careers

Starting point is 00:31:25 we're gonna go for the money but now you got the career you got the money but you're so masculine and the energy that you put off a man don't want you right you understand me like because man we visual we're not looking at a woman for what she has you understand me that's not what's gonna attract me to you but if my advice if I were to be advising a woman what I'm gonna teach my fucking daughter is

Starting point is 00:31:46 the only way that you're gonna be able to escape the fucking the way that men just have so much control in society is for you to build something on your own like you're going to have to really create some sort of value in your own life that goes way beyond your body or your looks because if that's all you have then you're constantly going to be under the control of the people making decisions based on those things i can agree with that um especially to a certain extent because you know when you pick a woman like what are you really going after you want somebody's going to bring you some peace right so Of all the things that a woman can build is herself.

Starting point is 00:32:22 Right. You understand me? When you find a woman who, you know, let's be honest, that ain't got hell of bodies under her belt, you understand me that come from a certain household where she got that feminine energy, that nurturing quality, you understand me, she's soft spoken, she knows how to help the person that she's with.

Starting point is 00:32:38 They go bring you so much peace in heaven you want to give her the world. Because you know that nobody else in the world go have you like that woman, right? So for her benefit, yes, you know, have some things to where you can have more control and you can pick a better quality of men because it's not based on survival. You understand me? And that's a difference because a lot of women have to choose men based on survival. And we know a lot of women who realistically they're in

Starting point is 00:33:04 relationships with some dope rapper or whatever and then either the rapper goes to jail or his career falls apart or they just break up. And then she's basically left high and dry. She's fucking in her late 30s and she ain't got shit to fall back on. And that's a rough situation to be in so i mean that's just my advice to women and i feel like it's a lot easier for me to respect a girl if she's building something if she comes along with something like when you see somebody like a like a little dirk whose girl's got money and she's got her own thing going and he ultimately knows that if she left him she's going to be fine right you know like she's going to be all right she probably likes being in this relationship and everything but she's going to be all right and that

Starting point is 00:33:42 creates like a real level of stability i think in a relationship because you can't just right or off in a relationship where i have all the money and all the power i mean if you're a girl you don't want to be in that fucking situation because i get to call the shots on everything and you don't really have anything to bring to the table that that's a bad place to be in a woman should always have some money for herself and as a man i want to i want somebody that i can depend on you know i mean if it's not financial or other things because let's be real shit happens you know what i'm saying if the the show was to stop tomorrow i may be fucked up you know i mean i would one would be able to lean on you until I can get myself together and shit too and a lot of women they don't

Starting point is 00:34:19 think like that now and day yeah no even in the Quran it teaches that you know a woman should have our own account you understand me like no because anything can happen you understand me regardless it may be your fault and maybe his fault while something don't work out but regardless you should never be dependent upon that situation to determine the outcome of your life especially for your children as well so i think that you know when a woman already comes with something she got more chips at the table can decide to say, listen, well, I want to take care of you. Well, now he has to replace the value that she already has. Right?

Starting point is 00:34:50 So it's like when I went to South Africa, I was giving a story about the Zulu, the Swaziland people. And he was explaining, like, if I want to take another wife under my household, I have to give dowry to the family and I have to already have a house set up. You understand me? Because otherwise, that family can already provide our house, right? So it has to be a financial thing, right? And it's a business transaction. I think when you look at like marriage and relationships as only love, that's when you lose.

Starting point is 00:35:19 Because it has to be a logic there. It can't just be love because you can fall in love with anybody. You understand me? Like you can slip up being in the right place at the right time and all of a sudden that chemistry of love starts to create that storyline of love. But it's interesting how in America that idea, like the idea that the husband's family should have so much to give to the woman's family or whatever. it's like in our society that would be very much looked down upon because a relationship really is supposed to be based on love and not a financial investment but okay picture yourself as a dad and your you know 20 your daughter's in early 20s or mid 20s and she brings a guy home and she says this is my new fucking boyfriend and he's bringing nothing to the table nothing like he's a broke fucking bum doing jack's shit with his life i mean you're gonna be the dad kind of sitting there thinking and you're gonna be thinking like why why this guy like he's not bringing to the bringing in any, like, and maybe you could see the vision that she sees. Maybe you could say, like, I believe in his talent.

Starting point is 00:36:17 He's going to be a big deal in the near future. Maybe. But, I mean, realistically, a woman is looking for a guy to bring more stability to their life, especially once they reach a certain point in their life. When they're young and chaotic, when they're still in college, whatever, they don't really care as much about if a guy has money or whatever. It might just be that you got a nice body and she wants to fuck you, whatever. But by the time a girl gets to the point where she's facing the reality of like,

Starting point is 00:36:41 oh I went to college and now I'm making $35,000 a year, I'm going to need a motherfucker to lean on. If a man don't have nothing, he don't need a woman. You know what I'm saying? Like you only get a woman when you need help with what you got. You understand? It's like if you got a business and y'all not bringing in no income, it's not growing, you don't need to hire more employees. You understand me?

Starting point is 00:37:00 That's a woman is a helpmate. That's the growth factor in your business to multiply what you already got. So if my daughter brings homes a man that has nothing, then I know, number one, she don't need him because he don't need her. Right. You understand me? If he don't have a vision, he don't have something that's big encompassing that he's working towards or that's already going,

Starting point is 00:37:20 then he needs to come back and build something. Then he can come court my daughter. But it's interesting, though, because, okay, if your daughter's... I got no kids, but you know. Okay, but... I have a two-year-old, so I barely have any right to talk about that. I got a daughter's 13, and I'm like... You got the one who's...

Starting point is 00:37:34 She's going to be an adult right around the corner. It's around the corner. But, okay, if your daughter's 13 or 14, 50, 60, and she has... a boyfriend and he ain't on shit it's like well you're in fucking high school like it's not surprising that you you don't have shit going for you but then by the time you even and that's like that's the pressure on a young man is that by the time you're even like 20 21 22 people expect you to have something going on for yourself and that's a lot of fucking pressure yeah i think that's a that's that's not a good narrative for young man you understand me because even in a society

Starting point is 00:38:05 men are supposed to develop all of these things before they get into a relationship right so like You got to have a career. You have to have social presence, right? You got to have a certain level of value. We don't associate that same equivalence to women as far as how men are attracted to women. She looks beautiful and she's good for me. Then come on, I want her. You understand me?

Starting point is 00:38:26 But for men, there's a lot more value we have to create, but we are also different. I think the problem is that young men don't have mentors and they don't have guides because it's not a lot of pressure, right? When you really think about it, it's just the fact that, you know, they say over the last 50 years testosterone has consistently decreased. Now that can be because that we number one, we don't have to do as many rigorous things as men anymore. Life is very comfortable. Less of us working in a field whereas I assume that if like I was doing construction all day I would probably have a higher testosterone level but there's a lot less people having to do those kind of jobs now. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:39:01 So but at the same time men are weaker physically weaker right but it also comes along with less testosterone less fecundity in the mind less ideas you produce and less vision that you having so it's not just a physical thing it's a mental thing right it's like if you got like there's a direct connection between Fik and Ditty or of having like less swimmers and then it's Fik and Ditty in the mind will having less ideas so now young men may be producing less ideas less ambition in the world to actually go produce and do things because society tell young men tap me into your feminine side right basically they promote soft life for men and hard life

Starting point is 00:39:35 for women you understand me you're gonna be the breadwinner now you go be the leader now women are and saying that no we want soft life we tired of showing up especially black and brown women showing up and having to be tough and independent so that changes the complete spectrum of the game but if young men were rear right and trained right they could deal with the so-called pressures of the world that wouldn't feel like nothing right like that little pressure you go through that is actually a qualifying spectrum for a man right how he deals with that stress how he deals with those dark periods because when you think about most men you go they go they go go build themselves based on the adversity they went through. You understand me? Like, that's how you know a man is somebody, like a man that's living at his edge. If a man ain't living at his edge,

Starting point is 00:40:20 he's not even get respected by his peers. He's not respected by his circle. He's not going to be respected by himself because he knows like, damn, this is what I'm doing. But honestly, I know I could be doing this. Right. And so a lot of males today not living at their edge, they're not able to deal with adversity,

Starting point is 00:40:36 don't have emotional intelligence or mentors or guides. So if you bring those things, back into the fold, it's going to increase their attractors of tenfold to their women because of how they move and how they deal with the world. 100% yeah. Lupe Fiasco, he said, struggle, another sign that God loves you. I said, hear that. I say, be like, man.

Starting point is 00:40:55 He's gaslighting you. No, no, but, but I like to think, like, all the trials and tribulations that we go through at the time, it may seem like it's overwhelming, but, like, that's what really builds character, and that's the lessons that we get in life. Because I remember I was reading an article about some actor or some shit, and he's talking about the worst thing he ever went, the most miserable time period of his life. And it was like somebody wrote an article about him,

Starting point is 00:41:21 and there was like a couple hundred like negative tweets about him out there. And I was reading it like, I so cannot relate to this. Because the worst periods in my life were so much worse than what the fuck you're talking about. But that is you becoming a fucking rugged individual who's able to actually withstand. stuff and especially like I'm not going to I said this yesterday on the podcast I learned a lot from watching Donald Trump I learned that everybody in the fucking world can be shitting on you and you don't have to care you can just keep going and fucking be be a piece of shit and just be like fuck it I don't know what you all said whatever you give energy to yeah yeah man whatever you give

Starting point is 00:41:56 energy to grows you feel me like most things in people live you can just tell by what they pay attention to you know I mean like it don't exist if you don't I was telling somebody this early I was in a car freestyle and was on live and my little brother and somebody most of the comments was really good but you know you always notice the one person that's talking shit and they was like yo this is whack you need to stop and i was telling them like the person that watches fully what you do is giving the same amount of love and attention as a person that loves it so it don't matter i will be mad if you wasn't on this live if you wasn't watching it could then you wouldn't be supporting me but as long as you show up you did your job already

Starting point is 00:42:31 your opinion and your perspective matters little your presence is your support you understand me So for me, it's like even dealing with hate or things of that nature, I'm okay with that because that's a fan too. You understand me? It's just they have a different perspective on how they express their fandom. That's real. I got a question. When did you really start getting to the bag in terms of your life story? When did you actually really start making something for yourself?

Starting point is 00:42:57 How did this unfold? So, you know, I've, you know, I've been hustling since I was a kid from goddamn shoveling to doing hustles with my brother, do-to-do. Like, you know, I saw weed in high school. And, you know, even after that, I think it gave me a mentality of how to make money. So I've always knew how to make money. There's never a period in time of life where I didn't know how to make money, something out of nothing, right? But when it comes to the platform, you know, I had a store in Oakland after I had fired my job, you know, and I decided to just go for myself because I figured if I can make them millions of dollars,

Starting point is 00:43:34 I can do that same thing for myself. Right. Right. You know, I probably did it premature, but, you know, my will was set, though. My spirit was set. So you started your own store? Yeah. That's how it began?

Starting point is 00:43:45 No, no. It started really for when I started to develop more presence on social media and I can magnify the things that I was doing in real life. Right. Like, for me, I ain't started on social media. Right? Everything that I do on social media was something I was doing before. But I knew I could utilize this to magnify everything that I was doing in real life.

Starting point is 00:44:03 So more so getting to. to the back started when I was able to address a large audience problem and that's when the teaching and the courses I think I would say the courses was that I had a program where I still have it's called BWO at the time it was called black world order now it was more blockchain focus so it's called block world order but I always had a thing about bringing people together so I found people in different industries that was already doing good and I say well we can maximize what we doing if we do it together like collaboration is my spirit you know understand me because I know how you can 10x things very fast.

Starting point is 00:44:37 But so with a retail store, did that allow you to all of a sudden be able to say to the people like, hey, come on down and then all of a sudden you can interact with them and do shit? But shortly afterwards, I end up losing a store because the person that was leasing it to me didn't want to extend it. I can't tell you if it was jealousy or whatever because at first that particular store that was leasing from, it was known for his spot at first. But then it got kind of jumping and then it just became my presence there, my energy signature.

Starting point is 00:45:04 Okay. So, but you know, hindsight, it's a blessing, right? So I end up, you know, continuing that brand. Like I had a crowns. I saw tens of thousands of these at this point, you know. You made that. Yeah. Interesting. So the crowns, I have a health supplement business where we have new tropics and things that nature. I got y'all some as well in my bag and my brain y'all. That was a family business that I started because everything that I talk about, I have to build a business or something behind. Right. So I always tell people, do it. business with family. Only time you can't do business with family is if they dysfunctional, because if they're dysfunctional, they don't know they rose, right? But family business rule the world. So family business, we started Goldwater, and that started off profitable. You understand me? So that's a consistent business. I got the Crown Society. That's a consistent business. Then it's just me as 19 keys as a brand, right? And then getting hired for speaking and things of that nature. Then I got my educational programs, right, where we teach financial literacy, blockchain mindset digital real estate all of those different things that encompassed

Starting point is 00:46:08 and that program that grew to 10 000 plus students right right and different iterations of you know creating different programs over time to address the niches of things that i was talking about and then creating like group coaching programs to actually teach people one-on-one to get them results because i'm big on results right so what does the the coaching look like because sometimes now there's like a bad rap that comes along with the whole whole coaching thing because it seems like a lot of dudes, you know, Andrew Tate famously has this whole like a hustlers university thing and I can't speak on what the content is like. I've seen a YouTube video where somebody was basically saying that it's trash. Like I don't know, like, I'm sure

Starting point is 00:46:49 there's all kinds of different influences with all kinds of different levels of their courses, but what's your approach on and how useful you think it really is? So the difference between a course and the coaching program is a course is basically you create a martial where you teach a thing that can be like evergreen, right? Let's say if I'm doing intro to cryptocurrency, teaching you how to set up your wallet, what it is, what's the history, what's the basics, right? So if you want to know something and you don't want to have to go do all the research and you want it packed up, of course it's great for you, right? So in that case, hell yeah. And then a coaching program is basically that same information, but a person is one-on-one teaching you and taking you through those steps.

Starting point is 00:47:25 Like my framework is, you know, society starts off, especially early in days, it was motivation. Motivational speakers, they try to encourage you to do something. something, usually using a voice or whatever examples, analogies they can give. Then it was more inspirational. I'm going to show you what I do to try to inspire you and make you want to do similar to the same. That's my leadership. Then it became education.

Starting point is 00:47:47 Now I'm going to teach you what I'm doing, right? And then it goes from, damn, you figure that most people are not good learners, right? So education system messes us up where we don't actually know how to learn. We only know how to memorize things. So education had to turn into instruction. I got to sit there and do more coaching and give you step by step to make sure you actually get the results that you're paying for. But that requires more time so you will have charge more because you can't teach or coach the whole world at once. Right.

Starting point is 00:48:16 And then we got this step now called automation where let me automate the process. It's like instead of teaching you trading, we'll set up a bot for you or you want to set up a trucking business. We'll automate that process instead of you learning it and have to go do the paperwork yourself. So now we have aspects of it that are courses, that is a coaching program, and some of it that's automation, right? Like giving you the signals on which trades to take and things of that nature. Right. So for me, iterating and I think education is probably, it's one of the growing, biggest growing enterprises right now in sectors. Like everybody should get into education.

Starting point is 00:48:52 If you have a skill set of something that you know, you should teach it. Me, I've been in front of the people for the last 10 years, so I got a different level of trust. Like if I put out a new course or a new program, it's like a rapper that don't put out albums a lot. You can't wait until they put out something. Because you know I'm going to give you way more value than you pay for. That's interesting to me because, you know, realistically, if you wanted to learn about cryptocurrency, you could probably go search up a bunch of YouTube videos and find a bunch of information, blog posts, articles, whatever.

Starting point is 00:49:21 How much does it matter that it's you and that your audience resonates with you and that you're speaking their language? you seem like someone that comes from their community, so they're more in tune with what you're saying. Like, how much does that matter? A lot, because we want to learn from people that look like us. We want to be around people that look like this. That's an innate human trait.

Starting point is 00:49:42 You understand me? And being able to speak the language, the language was never codified towards the masses, right? That's how you keep a lot of people out of industry, right? Language is the most powerful thing. You can control people through language. So if you can break things down simple enough, now a whole new sector of people can get into it because now they understand it.

Starting point is 00:50:00 Most of time people like, that's a scam or this and that. It's simply because they don't want to learn it, they don't understand it. Right? So for me, cryptocurrency or blockchain, a lot of people could never get a perspective unless they get it from me because I can interpret from their perspective as well because I can empathize with them. And not just me, but a person like myself. But you've gotten a lot of people into cryptocurrency. I'm assuming you also have to read some of the messages that are like, oh, shit,

Starting point is 00:50:26 I lost 50% of my coin base account over the past six months. Well, I don't get those kind of messages because you know, I always teach a risk aversion. Right. You understand me? Like there's a risk with everything. I don't teach no pine in the sky teaches before anything I teach you the value or something. Right. Like the thing about like, let's say blockchain of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is a blockchain.

Starting point is 00:50:45 I want to teach you the root of it. It is a blockchain. So you got to imagine this is a new technology that came to people, right? But because we're such a capitalist society, we can only see the price. Right. We don't see the value. The value is it allowed you to change the whole world. Because now you can build all of these new systems that weren't normally possible before.

Starting point is 00:51:05 That's something you got to look at and say like, damn, this is the biggest technological shift in the world. Let me try to understand some of this. Right. Because I know that the future is going to be built on these programs that come. Technology don't care about your feelings. But what's the average person going to be able to do with like a real understanding of Bitcoin aside from it just being like a place to hold wealth and investment? So it depends on who you are, right? Because I don't just deal with the average person.

Starting point is 00:51:29 I deal with people of all different levels. Right. So if you got a business, then you will know what's ahead of the curve, right? Like what's coming next? You understand me? And then you start building your business and pivoting accordingly. Right. Like, let's say on the blockchain, you can build businesses on there called DOWs,

Starting point is 00:51:46 decentralized autonomous organizations. Right. Like most of the organizations that you see, you may hear about a crypto business, these are mostly DOWs. And these are what's considered community businesses. If you want to learn, go watch the Logan Paul video about his fucking Pikachu card that you can own a percentage of through a Dow. Yeah, that sort of thing. But you can turn a Dow and make it anything.

Starting point is 00:52:08 No jumper can become a Dow where people buy into it and they basically get voter rights to say who they want to see as guest on there. And then you 100% follow the guidelines of whatever the people choose and decide. So it's a complete community business and they own it. Right. And then you can set up the smart contracts to where you can't scam nobody in the Dow because everything is transparent and it's automated. Once the rules are set, you can't go back in there and change it. Right. So people like Dow's for that particular reason because it allows you to have completely new business models. So if you a new entrepreneur or an existing entrepreneur, you may want to add that onto your business. The same thing with NFTs. Now 90% decrease in, you know, in activity on a lot of the platforms.

Starting point is 00:52:52 but 80% of businesses fail, right? So if you take those same metrics, creating a project is creating a business. Right. Right? But a lot of people were just creating them to scam folks, so therefore there was no longevity. Well, they were getting money in the short term,

Starting point is 00:53:05 but I think that like that almost has to happen. It has to. And I'm not saying that I see a super bright future for NFTs because I'm sure that there is, there are going to be projects that are able to use the technology and embrace it in an intelligent way. But, yeah, I think you kind of have to go through the scam wave of any new technology.

Starting point is 00:53:23 The same way you had Pets.com and all these bullshit startups in the 90s and stuff, those kind of had to get out of the way to make sense or to make room for Facebook and Google, you know? I mean, internet went the same exact phase. Human beings, man, we're consistent.

Starting point is 00:53:37 You understand? We go through the same loops throughout history. But for me, I always look at what's the value of how I can use it. I don't care about how the market uses it. Right. Like, I got one where the simple fact is it's my community.

Starting point is 00:53:50 They have NFTs. They can buy the digital version. then they get something physical, right? Because I believe in utility and value. But now those same people at any point of time, I can invite them somewhere. I got their data, I can create a community membership based around that to where I can give them access

Starting point is 00:54:05 to things that nobody outside that can have access to, and now they got a secondary market that they can sell to people that I create value for. Right. So for me, if I'm looking at tools and I'm looking at things that is changing in the world, and I'm seeing capital come from corporations, pouring in billions if you teach that game to people on the on the lower floor

Starting point is 00:54:26 they actually can build a quicker infrastructure because they don't have to change everything like a big corporation would they can just start now then start making profit off of it right so it's different depending on what you want to do with it like I don't teach a this is just what you have to do with it I give you the game now you have perspective and options on what you can do with it based on what your goals are right definitely no I remember going through like when I first when like the NFC thing came out I mean I had like couple weeks there was just like non-stop listening to podcasts and YouTube videos trying to wrap my

Starting point is 00:54:56 head around like okay you know what are the options for me like what what could I potentially do with this and I'm very glad that I didn't really take any of them in terms of no jumper because I for a period of time I thought about like we're going to have an nfti that comes out for every guest and then I like kind of slowly started to be like well like I don't own the rights to their likeness and how the fuck am I going to make nfts you still got your nfd I still have my punk and we did lose a little been money on it. But, you know, it's a long road. Home run, it'd be all right. I'll be all right. I will say, though, I don't like those apes.

Starting point is 00:55:29 That shit's ugly. I don't know. Yeah, they had a lot of controversy about the apes. I just don't like them. But I will say that they created a blueprint and a framework that just never existed before because they created a billion dollar business out of nothing. When I look at what Gary Vee is doing and the Apes too, to be fair, what Gary Vee is doing, like the idea that, like, you basically invest in the creation of, you basically invest in the creation of this line of characters

Starting point is 00:55:53 and then he's going to work hard to, you know, create more value for the IP. That makes sense to me. Because in the scenario with NFT, the founder has to be just as incentivized to care about the future of the NFT because I've seen with Lana Rhodes when she did her NFT collection as a porn star

Starting point is 00:56:10 and then she made a ton of money and then she just left it. She all of a sudden wasn't incentivized to really have anything to do with this. She could just withdraw the money and let it go. And that's the absolute wrong mentality. and she's the wrong type of person to be involved in this. But I think the way Gary Vee is approaching it makes sense.

Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, I think that if you go at it as a brand and a business, you're automatically going to have a long-term plan for it. And the people that are invested into that, because if we look at it, let's just be honest, a lot of these things create new systems where you can skirt around SEC and investing rules. Right. Right. Because you've got to have a certain level of criteria

Starting point is 00:56:46 to be an investor. But, you know, you don't put it as an investor. are like more so rewards that you can get to be a part of it. You understand me? And what it does is it create the opportunity for the average person to take things that's normally for the rich and then they can apply to their business now. Same way creating your own cryptocurrency

Starting point is 00:57:03 was only for the damn treasury or creating your own money is for banks. Now you've got decentralized finance where you can decide the rules of how you want to navigate your own money. Like all of these things just took shit from the top and said that now you got a system to where everybody can do it for themselves.

Starting point is 00:57:19 And that's why they're trying to figure out what rules should we put in place so that the people don't have all the power. Because that was the normal, that was the essential idea of the blockchain. How to give all the people power and how to decentralize power, or it's not just figures and 1% and families that run everything, but you can actually dictate what reality is. But I would say that there's probably some rules that should be put in place to protect the people as well. Always.

Starting point is 00:57:44 A lot of people lost a lot of money. Right. The crypto universe is slowly starting to reveal itself to us as being like a lot closer to the traditional business world in the sense that there's a few people at the top making a shitload of money and then there's all you dumb fucks at the bottom and we're getting screwed, right? Yeah, that's why I only care if we own it. Like if you don't own it, it don't matter.

Starting point is 00:58:02 And I think that's the danger of looking at some of the top companies and some of the top coins and only focus it on them. If you go through Coin Gecko and you go look at the list of all of the coins out there, when you get to the smaller market caps that ain't got billions of dollars, those are the ones that probably got like life-changing technology for the world. But nobody's focused on them because everybody looks at price. And the only way that you're ever going to be able to be someone who could make an intelligent investment into a smaller alt-coin and see the value and decide that this is the next Ethereum,

Starting point is 00:58:35 the only way you're going to be able to get there is to absolutely bury your fucking head in the information and spend, you know, countless hours on Google and YouTube, learning as much as you can, paying attention to the space. And if people want to make money off of cryptocurrency, I mean, that's what it takes. Is you have to basically understand cryptocurrency the same way that we understand rap music. You know, you have to be such a nerd and so obsessed with it in order to be able to have any kind of hope of having a competitive advantage. I would say also being a part of communities. That's probably the fastest way to learn, realistically. And that's really the best thing about anybody's program is how good is that community?

Starting point is 00:59:12 Right. Because when you got people of different varying degrees sharing information, with each other, now you got a 360 perspective. It's basically having a research team. If you look at these big funds, they got a research team, right? They got to make sure that you're not missing anything. So you understand the cycles. You understand all of these different things.

Starting point is 00:59:29 Then they got bots and automated machines that's giving them signals on things. So now you have an edge in the market. You can't do nothing without an edge. If you don't have an edge, don't get in. But it still is important that the average person at least get a minimum education on these things that's happening in their world. That's like, like even you got blockchain. Like another thing we teach is like artificial intelligence, right?

Starting point is 00:59:51 Like one big thing that they got right now is like text the image, right? Have you all seen that with like the Dolly and the mid journey? Like artists is going to be wiped out of the business. So if you if you're not keeping up with technology, your pivot may come overnight. And you're not going to know what to do because you're going to be relying on traditional means and not realizing that the industries and the technology is changing consistently. Just like Blockbuster and Netflix. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:00:17 Had a chance to buy it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Didn't do it. And then that Netflix became the way that everybody consumes stuff. You know what I mean? They got into streaming earlier. And even now, like you said, with artificial intelligence, they're showing us right now.

Starting point is 01:00:30 Like, they're making rappers now. Like, they don't need you as a human. They don't have to deal with nobody going to jail. They ain't got to deal with nobody working about the contracts. They're making artificial people that, and it's going to keep going. Human labor is what built the economy, but now they're trying to use technology to replace human labor, so they don't need you. Every time you go through the self-checkout, I mean, they don't want you working there. They don't want to have to pay you, bro.

Starting point is 01:00:58 They don't want you having a job. And people don't want those jobs. You know, like they don't. If you're not creative right now, it's going to be very hard for you to pivot. Like even when I look at this studio and I look at podcasts, I see creativity, right? How you take an existing thing and you think of different ways. that you can implement and monetize it right but there's not always going to be taught you have to be visionary and you have to see it so if you if your imagination is not solid like this is the most

Starting point is 01:01:25 dangerous thing i think about the hood is that the imagination ain't fostered because if you don't have an imagination that you can't think outside of your reality right you stuck with only what you see right and this is why i always teach people from a vision like let's see the future because you can build whatever you see never ask nobody what the future go be. Ask yourself what you wanted to be. All my successes in business have always just because I was paying such close attention to a market that I was able to spot an opening or an opportunity before it became a real obvious opportunity. I was paying attention to underground rap. I've been paying attention to rap my whole life, but I was paying attention to like SoundCloud rap. And I was

Starting point is 01:02:05 already doing podcasts about a different topic at the time that SoundCloud rap and a lot of underground rap stuff was really popping off. And so I was able to put those two pieces together. there and that's been it for me over and over and over is just knowing a lot about stuff and even now like things that i become super interested in like i'm very interested in crypto i've fucking watch videos and read articles and stuff like that i don't really have a dog in the fight aside from you know some relatively small crypto investments but i mean to me that's it's it's going to benefit me in the long run if i keep listening to podcasts about a certain topic or if i keep learning about something eventually it's going to pay off in some way right time in the market pays off more than anything you feel me like just as long as you keep yourself in the game you

Starting point is 01:02:48 solid because then you know when to take a shot you understand me and for me like like I like blockchain not just crypto web 3 or anything it's just blockchain for me because that's where everything is built on everybody else subjects it into these different markets and you know you got people who love Ethereum or people who love Bitcoin right like all these things become new religions so I don't get caught up in none of that I look at where's the value on how we can create our own reparations. You understand me? I don't see nobody giving us a check no time soon. Therefore, we got to figure out ways to write our own checks. So when I see new technological shifts

Starting point is 01:03:24 in 1995, the me and man March was happening, but at the same time, the IPO for Nescape was happening, right? And if we were paying attention and bought red.com and pet.com and understand that this technological shift was going to come and make new billionaires, right? But we so, a lot of time, our community, we focus on survival and making change from oppressive. of systems. So we can't think long term because we can only think next week, next month. Well, if this changed, then this can happen. But now we had a precipice of reality to where we can think beyond any borders. Right. You understand me? Like if we would have, if our parents would have bought red.com or any of these things, they would have been instant

Starting point is 01:04:03 millionaires just by buying digital property. Right. So that same opportunity exists today. But if you're not in synchronicity of being present, you can't observe those opportunities. Before Bitcoin and went to 70,000, Bitcoin machines was in the hood. Right? But most people are blind to it, don't even see it, so you're not going to ask the question because you're not even thinking to question reality at all. When you're living check-to-check, it's pretty hard to be like thinking about, oh, this is going to be worth a lot down the road.

Starting point is 01:04:33 Or put on your chips in there. And that's the best time to think it. That's the biggest thing about it. Like when people often speak upon people that got to live check to check, we talk about things that validate the mindset that they have because of it. their circumstances instead of the exact why that you should be thinking this way because of your circumstances in order to change them a lot of times i think about what i would do if i could go back in time 10 years and the obvious things are like buy facebook buy Tesla buy google whatever but that doesn't

Starting point is 01:05:02 but that doesn't really get you to the end of the question because in reality if i go back in time 10 years i don't have a lot of money so it's like what am i going to do i'm going to buy five hundred dollars with a bitcoin or whatever that would have been worth so it's still what It still would have been crazy. But that tells you, though, like, capital is so important. How much money you're able to bring to the table. If you have 20 grand or 100 grand to invest, all of a sudden, you could really build some generational wealth, which is the tricky part, is that, yes, it's dope to be able to have

Starting point is 01:05:28 a hundred grand to invest. But in the meantime, for most people, they have to worry about, well, how the fuck do I pay the bills and be put aside some other money to invest? That's true. But then also, if you go back in those times and go look at what Apple was at that time, go look at all of these companies, you could have took a little bit of capital and put it in there and you'll be up right now. This is true.

Starting point is 01:05:46 You would definitely have way more money than, you know, you have without it. And so a lot of it is just opportunity costs. And that comes from a lack of exposure and education. If you got people around you teaching you about certain opportunities, it don't matter what your capital is if that opportunity is right right now. Right. But if you don't think long term, then nothing is ever going to compute to make sense for you. Right.

Starting point is 01:06:08 You understand? My uncle got me thinking long term and that changed my life. because I used to think check to check like everybody else, but he was like, nah, he was doing contracting with the government for like solar panels, right? But he used to show me checks. He was like, he showed me like a $100,000 check or something. He'd be like, you know, this came from work I did two years ago.

Starting point is 01:06:27 Because people who do door-to-door sales, which is still like a relatively, it's a real thing. Like people actually still do this, even though we all kind of forgot about it. It used to seem like all the time somebody was knocking on your door to sell you something, right? But solar panels, of all the things that they could sell in the world they sell solar panels because that's the thing you can make the most money on

Starting point is 01:06:44 and and you know average person ain't gonna really get solar panels you understand me because that seems too futuristic for them and now elin musk is selling them like hot cakes you feel me so you know what what a person don't see that's okay everybody is not meant to lead the world and not be the innovators you know DJ Kelly said everybody not a unicorn but i am right but if you can realize that one is that you have in a oftentimes it's perspective because you know my bro Wall Street Trapper and master investor they talk about stocks a lot right and they're able to really reach people that's in the streets because you speak the language Wall Street

Starting point is 01:07:22 Trappel go always use analogies from the streets and trapping to relate to how you measure a business performance and value right and that really gets people attention because they realized like damn this investing thing is for me it was just never spoken in my language so if you create a language outside the context of certain neighborhoods and people's certain cultures, then anytime they hear about it, they feel like it's not for them. Because I remember, like, even me,

Starting point is 01:07:48 I grew up in the fucking suburbs, but it's still like the idea of buying drugs and then selling those drugs for a profit or, like, stealing something and then selling that, that made way more sense to me early on than like, oh, I'm going to start a business. I'm going to legally buy product. Like, that just, it took a long time for that

Starting point is 01:08:05 to kind of compute in my brain, right? Yeah. That's quicker reward. If I go steal something, it's instant gratification. So your brain can already see what the reward is on that. There ain't no foundation behind it. You got to keep doing it.

Starting point is 01:08:17 A business requires business mastery, right? It requires an education. It requires you setting up a structure and a system. One of the things that we have is a people that we do brilliant, is we excellent. We can come up with ideas on the fly. But most millionaires and billionaires, they're not good at creating ideas. Right.

Starting point is 01:08:34 You understand me? They're good at creating systems. Right. Right. And once we learn how to put together systems, Then it changed the game. I see caps on there that are making millions of dollars on YouTube, but they can't think of their next idea.

Starting point is 01:08:46 Because most of the time they copycatted something. They took a system, created a funnel, and they made a lot of money. So now they're looking for the next thing to invest. So we have all of the ideas in the world in the hood, but we don't know how to create systems or put investment behind it. This is why I like ideas like Dow's. Because you can take, you know, the people in that neighborhood don't have a lot of money individually,

Starting point is 01:09:09 but together they have an investment fund you understand me and this started off from groups having conversations about investments there was this one group i think it's called pink dolphin or something of that nature but it started off them in a group chat talking about investments and saying that how about we put together a Dow where all our money is connected and then we vote on what we want to put our money at so they end up buying the crypto punks that are early when they was just a couple thousand dollars and then they end up making now they fund is up to a billion dollars So you could get a Dow to invest rather than like creating a Dow of a particular asset like they do with certain NFTs. So the Dow can be anything.

Starting point is 01:09:46 They got nonprofit Dow's. They got you can it's basically for me. It's, you know, I look at NFTs as new funding tokens, right? But to be able to leverage off your IPO, your intellectual property, right? And that's your intellectual property offering. If you look at rappers nowadays or Web 3, they don't understand it whatsoever. But they the things that they complain about is exactly what the infrastructure is web three is trying to build You go on social media today if they want to cut off your profile they can because they own it

Starting point is 01:10:16 Right, but web three is saying that nobody owns it so whatever you create you own So if I instead of me going on Instagram and I log into my profile I will bring my profile to Instagram right and now it populates all of the data that I own So the ideas is more important to people that are the lower class and poorer class so if you only let the people in the wealthy make that decision then of course they're not going to make it best geared to you in your situation and this is why it's important to get people that are more on the ground floor into it so that the infrastructure would be built and customized

Starting point is 01:10:51 towards changing a class system that's why I like what you doing also Derek Grace you familiar yeah that's my brother yeah there's great man like you see a guy with face full of tattoos but he breaks them down to where you know people in hook and get it he's like hey he's making I don't know the video game came out yeah but he's like he's making a video game of trying to educate you come on a cup I'm in a video game you in there I'm a character in there but that's but that's that's something that's you know somebody can pick it up and be like you know what this is going to make me smarter he's doing it a way that is cool even like you know earn learning systems and banking and everything like that I'm like man that's cool

Starting point is 01:11:29 there need to be more people like that you know I mean like you said they can speak to language yeah A lot of times when you say IPOs and wear three, they're going to be like, I know. What are you talking about? But if you put it in a video game, if you break it down with the science of it in a way that we can understand it, everybody's going to do it.

Starting point is 01:11:46 It's going to make more millionaires. You know, the beauty of that, though, it's like I do high-level conversations, so I know certain things will go over people ahead. But high-level is never supposed to give you the details, right? I'm giving you an opportunity to go do research on new things and it's going to change your horizon. But I can go through different hoods all across America.

Starting point is 01:12:05 I have. And what I realize is that we're smarter than we give ourselves credit for. You understand me? Oftentimes, there's always somebody speaking for those that grow up in that poverty line and saying that they can never get this. This is not for them. But social media completely, not just social media, but the Internet change what people can understand because we got more exposure than any other time in history.

Starting point is 01:12:28 I want to ask you this because we've had this conversation many times. podcast where when I look at what a young person should be doing with their money, every time I see a young person smoking a blunt, I cringe a little bit because I'm just think, especially if I know that they just don't got money like that, I'm thinking, that's a fucking $10 blunt. And you need to be taking every last $10 you fucking got and investing it into building something for yourself, not thinking about sitting here and having a nice little head high for the next hour or two. You need to be thinking about your future. And I feel the same way when I watch people who are young and they're saving up to go get a Gucci fit so they can go to a fucking

Starting point is 01:13:04 moot moot i don't know go to a party or something and look cool how do you feel about that sort of thing i feel like our culture pushes materialism on people and i think that that's one of the biggest things that you need to unlearn if you want to be successful especially when you're at that early period of your life is that you just cannot be wasting all your disposable income you don't have disposable income you need to be saving that shit and if you're i think that like when i look at like the way you're dressed, aside from the chains, that might be a little expensive. But like, if I was a young dude, I would be looking to wear like very simple outfits for the most part, where I could invest as little of my money as possible in the clothes until I get to that point.

Starting point is 01:13:43 Like, how do you feel about how a young person should think about that? No, you know, I might not be the back example when it comes to dressing sometimes, because I can go lie, I do, you know, I put it on. Right. I'm assuming that your black pants and black shirt are a lot more expensive than the average black pants. you know it's just you know they got some textures and shit it looks expensive no but that's one thing that i learned from derrick too is like you know fuck the diamonds get the gold yeah that's a fact you know what i mean so when i see the gold that these are their investments raw value you can take that

Starting point is 01:14:12 you know i mean that goes up and down when it's up right you could trade that in but when it comes to you know i think you correct especially when it comes to the things that we take in within our body man and things that take us away from our mind you know like we're not going back to africa when i went to Africa, the Zula Warriors said that, you know, during that time, smoking weed, you couldn't smoke to you was around 40 years old. 40? Wow. You really earned it by that point. Yeah, because, you know, imagine like, it's a war time. You know, I'm almost up. I only go a year.

Starting point is 01:14:44 But you got soldiers. The mind is consistently going through development. Yeah. You understand me? And when you smoke weed during a time where you high, you are in a more effeminated state. You understand me? Like, your testosterone is lower. right and you know it's gonna mess with your memory and a multitude of other different things so you can't really afford to smoke right when you thinking about things that you want to invest in like when you stop spending money you start investing money and really it's just means that I'm buying things of value I don't when I think about money I think about how do I create value so therefore the people of money come to me it's really that simple right

Starting point is 01:15:22 but we got a a materialistic society for surely that thinks about how can I buy buy things of value instead of how can I create value. So therefore, you're never valuable. Right. You're only valuable as a consumer because you never become a producer. You understand me? So if you ever get to the point where if you have little, then the best thing that you could ever do is educate yourself

Starting point is 01:15:41 because it's going to give you more options with the capital and resources that you do have. Right. Right. Like if you're ignorant, having a lot of money means nothing still because you can't do nothing with it. But a man that actually understands the game, you know, like my bros, you know, the channel that. I partner with is earn your leisure.

Starting point is 01:15:59 Like we teach every single industry of how to make money. Like there's no longer excuses. I don't care whether you grew up in Compton, whether you grow up in Chicago and the Wild Hunters, whether you go up in Oakland and East Oakland. It don't matter. You don't have excuses because the money is always screaming. The money, but procrastination, I think,

Starting point is 01:16:17 is a huge mental health issue. So a lot of people will procrastinate. And that's why you want to smoke. Because I'd rather indulge, right, rather than make a decision. Right. understand me and I always going to be the easiest thing in the short term and that's why when I see the worst thing in a long time right when I see young people just like fully thinking

Starting point is 01:16:35 that this is the fucking meaning of their life 80's brother is a great example of this they love sitting around and getting fucked up but meanwhile like getting a job or like working on a skill or never mind getting in shape or like any of these things that could probably have a positive impact on your life in the long time and I notice myself I'll come home from work a lot of times I come home from work and I got it in my head, I'm going to do an hour of cardio, or I'm going to lift weights or some shit. And it's always easier to sit around and smoke weed.

Starting point is 01:17:05 Lately, I've been like a lot more in controlling myself and doing a lot better at controlling that impulse. But a lot of people, I see young people, they freely are just giving in. What happens in the head when a person procrastinate, right? They did a brain scan and they showed that when a person think about a task that they normally procrastinate on, it has the same signals as pain does.

Starting point is 01:17:24 So it literally becomes painful to do that task. So, of course, you would rather do something that's more pleasurable, right? So instead, though, the only way to break it is just to do it. Always say, don't take 21 days to make a habit. It's a day you start in a day you don't quit. Right? Like, as a man, if you want to get something done, you've got to drop your nuts and just go do it. I know a lot of people will be looking for all of these colorful answers to life,

Starting point is 01:17:47 but it's just about your will and how you adjust it. Because in that moment, you're making a decision. more times that you go towards procrastinating, you stay on this side of comfort. You understand me? But on that other side, procrastination is the abortion clinic of ideas, of genius, of everything.

Starting point is 01:18:04 But to get birth to something is literally painful. When a woman go through that crowning phase, it's the most painful part. So she need anesthesia. She may need pain medicine or some people abort the baby. But that's the analogy of the ideas that we have because the average person

Starting point is 01:18:19 have had a million dollar idea, just not a million dollar execution right i mean a writer a writer does not always want to fucking sit down and write every day but if you want to be a writer and i i know that's just from having researched a lot of people who write for a living is that the real true test of being a writer is that you have a schedule most of these guys or women will sit down at seven o'clock in the morning or eight o'clock and that's their thing is like i am going to write for two hours every morning and then do some other stuff maybe write a little bit more later but having that structure to it because we all know that to sit down and try to like create something out of nothing and dump

Starting point is 01:18:56 out your thoughts onto a piece of paper is difficult and that if you want but if you want to be that you have to sort of control that i notice with myself that the best thing for me is to always be thinking about what my responsibilities are and not really letting myself chill until i've taken care of those and that's why when i get home i might have 10 youtube videos i want to watch really bad But I also have an email inbox full of shit that I got to fucking deal with. And I make a bargain in my head so immediately that I don't even need to think about it, which is like you are going to roast through like 80% of these emails, maybe not all of them, but a huge percentage of it before you're going to allow yourself to just chill, right?

Starting point is 01:19:35 And I think young people now, you know, they don't have a sense of urgency because they're, you know, we're taught, like you said, like a Disneyland fairy tale was like, we have time to do things. So even like my little brother, my little brother, he's like, hey, I'm 22 years old. And I'm like, nigga, that, bro, you need to be fighting for your life right now. You're only 22 once, man. And it's going to, time is going to pass you by so fast. And you don't want to be on the end of, I'm getting close to 30 now. And you're trying to fight and you're trying to figure something out.

Starting point is 01:20:08 And you crash and burn because you mentally did not prepare yourself for the world. I think I've made a pretty good use of my life. But you know how fucking bad I wish that I could be 22 again? and get all that time back. You know how well I would use that time if I had that time back? That's why I give Duno so much praise, because it's like, bro, you are light years ahead

Starting point is 01:20:27 of where I was at 22. It inspires me. Because it's crazy. The 20s, the thing about age period, right? I don't believe in old age, right? So I got my philosophy of new age, right? Because through every period of time throughout your life, your brain will develop differently.

Starting point is 01:20:43 So in your 20s, you know, you have the best brain for learning. because of pattern recognition you can pick up a new subject real quickly right and then you can learn it real quickly after 25 going into 30 your brain is going to change yeah right and so like through every iteration of life from you know from 1 to 10 from 10 to 17 17 to 25 your brain going through all these changes because you had a new age right right like how old are you 38 38 you've been 19 before so 19 is your old age 38 or 39 will become your 9 new age. You're going to go through certain developmental changes. By the time of 50, we reach

Starting point is 01:21:21 our peak creativity. But we don't learn how to develop ourselves at these new ages. So you may be trying to learn the same way you was at 20 when you turn 30 or 40 and now you can't stimulate yourself the same way. And so you get frustrated, which causes you to procrastinate. You understand me? Because you're using your old ways at new ages. Right. So for me, a 20 year old, you know, you got to basically expose yourself to as many things as possible before the age of 25 so that any other time you want to pick up one of those things you got a reference point in your brain to go back on there and stack on top of it I was I was with my friend and his son the other day and his son is like 10 and to me from my my perspective he's

Starting point is 01:22:01 clearly like a talented athlete like he's he's strong and he's tall and he's like I think he could really do something physically we don't but he's talking to me about he's like I love going to the skate park and I also love basketball and sometimes I don't know which one I should focus on both and I I I'm like, you should do both. And I also told them, I'm like, listen, don't cut anything else out. Like, try everything. Like, I'm like, when you were as young as you, just try as many things as possible.

Starting point is 01:22:28 You need to go skiing a couple times. You need to go snowboard. You gotta, like, figure shit out. Because you're so young, you have so much potential that you just don't want to make a decision without having been exposed to a lot of shit. And then some of those overlap, like, you know, a lot of people don't look at like sports as like a science. You understand me? but when you think about the difference between what it takes to be good at one sport or the other,

Starting point is 01:22:51 they overlap with each other. So one skill can make you better at another, right? I don't believe in just, you know, Jack of all trades, master of none. I believe that you can be master of many trades. You understand me? But I feel like you master one, then you go to the other. Some things that you master make other things easier to master. Right.

Starting point is 01:23:08 Because 50% of this is a learning curve towards the next thing, right? And then if your nephew just document the process, he may be, able to start monetizing it. And once you make money, it's something you good at, it makes you want to do it forever. Man. You understand me? Like, because now it's the whole thing of getting out of procrastination.

Starting point is 01:23:26 So you do the task. Then once you do it, you're going to get a feeling of pleasure and reward because now you're getting dopamine like, damn, I did that. I feel accomplished. So now you start to associate that with a good feeling. So now when you double back and you do it again and you realize you good at it, now it's double pleasurable to you. So now that's how people start getting addicted to like runners high

Starting point is 01:23:46 and things of that nature. Doing the thing that you don't like like you love it. You understand me? Like, if, you know, I don't believe in, like, my, I got six younger brothers. You understand me? Like, you can't tell to me about something that you don't feel like doing.

Starting point is 01:23:59 I don't care about that. It's the logic of it. Me ain't got to move on logic, not feelings. Once you get caught up in your emotions, then you got to go see a psychologist or a psychiatrist. That ain't for me. But you can, we got the ability to, you know, rise above emotions.

Starting point is 01:24:13 We was always taught like Marcus Garvey on the Blanche Muhammad, quotes was rise above emotions into the thinking of God there's nothing made in nature right that's irrational right so God's signature is logical everything in the universe is logical a plant has a reason everything has a purpose so for me finding the reason why like you know I'm a great speaker what can I do with this you know I can and this is not something that I found for myself I didn't know I was a good speaker so somebody said I pay you to speak but let's say you spent your whole elementary junior high playing basketball. Yeah. And you were just, you love basketball.

Starting point is 01:24:50 It's fun and fuck. Obviously, it's like a great culture around it. It's easy to understand when somebody would like basketball. But meanwhile, if you were to neglect your education, then you might never see, oh, fuck. Maybe I'm actually like a pretty mid basketball player, but I have a lot to offer in this other field. And that's why I say, you got to touch everything. Because if you find one thing that you're passionate about and just start grinding at that thing when you're young, that's dope, but just don't let that be the closing of the door on every other opportunity, you know? Yeah, young people, man, you got so many opportunities. Just being young is a gift in itself and is something that you can market. Like, if you find a kid, right,

Starting point is 01:25:26 it could be 15, 16, let's say, like, we talked about blockchain and stuff, he put in 100 hours on that. He's going to be the smartest person that anybody knows on that. Now he can become an industry consultant at a young age. Right. Like, that's about, like, creating your own jobs and opportunities right there's a I play poker and so there's a friend of mine Landon who's young he's like 22 I think and he's really fucking good at poker and it's like it's so different for him being really good at poker at 22 then it would be if he was 42 yeah because there's just a lot of people who have managed to get good at this by the time 42 it really stands out to people in

Starting point is 01:26:01 that community of like he must be a fucking smart cookie because he's been he's this good at this age and there's something really marketable and inspiring about that to people so and I've seen that in the bike riding world where it's like if you have some 15 year old kid who's amazing a bike riding the young ass kids relate to him so much that that makes his potential popularity way bigger than like a 30 year old dude yeah I mean you know certain ages when you do something that certain old age is special right right but that's true there's a certain mid age where it ain't nothing special about what you're doing it's like you're supposed to be doing it but it depends on the narrative and the story you told around like to see an old man in his 60s do a

Starting point is 01:26:40 with triathlon on the bicycle. I was thinking of skydiving, but yeah, exactly. And to see a very young person do it, then yes. But to see a person in the mid-age, you say, well, you train, you'll qualify, unless you know they story that, okay, they just started. Right. Right. Like, people out there building brands, and that's probably why I should definitely tell more

Starting point is 01:26:59 of my story more often. It's just very much not an interest of mine, but being able to tell your story can make whatever you do special. You understand me? You may see somebody do one thing, but then as soon as you hear the story, you hear the story behind it, it personalizes it for them, it gives them a perspective on it, and now it becomes a solid brand. You understand me? And now it becomes something special for you. You did? So for me, like, young people should start brands early on, like not even just a business,

Starting point is 01:27:26 but a brand. Whatever you have, what is your brand? You understand me? What's your name? What is the mission statement? What's your principles attached to it? Find like three things to attach to that and then be consistent with it. So therefore, if you ever want to pivot your brand to a business, you already have an existing base. Right. Yeah, it's much harder to start from zero than to keep a fire lit by throwing shit on there. I think about that all the time with my kid

Starting point is 01:27:49 is how I want to introduce her to the concept of entrepreneurialism at an early age, even if it's something silly like, okay, you're four and you did a drawing. Well, we're gonna take that drawing and we're gonna go on the computer and we're gonna search up how to make a t-shirt and then we're gonna make 20 t-shirts of that shirt.

Starting point is 01:28:09 You know, try to make it real to her. and try to show her, even if it's silly, and even if it's like, oh, we got 20 t-shirts and we're going to get your grandma to buy some, and we're going to, you know, whatever. Like, just make it a fun thing for her. And, like, try to make it real to her. I was thinking, like, she'll have a piggy bank.

Starting point is 01:28:24 And if she got, like, 500 bucks from selling those t-shirts, like, okay, we're going to put that $500 in the piggy bank, and we're going to think about next time you want something, I'm going to refer back to it and be like, well, you do have $500 in the piggy bank. That kind of thing. I think getting your kid into that mentality early on is like the best thing I think you can do.

Starting point is 01:28:42 Man, we was teaching children, and we were teaching them how to create down e-books and how to sell them, right? And we gave them, I like to figure out the simplest method of something that a person is already doing that they can just tweak a little bit and then they got a business. So one of them was, it's like we had a bunch of these children,

Starting point is 01:28:58 they seem like a lot of bright children because the parents wanted them in the program. So, you know, we said, go tell a story. This is like their homework. You go tell a story and you can record it. You ain't got to write it down. Record a story. story of you telling yourself or talking to your parent and talking to yourself

Starting point is 01:29:13 depending on how good and how fluent they are then you take that you can go on fiber and I want you to get a transcribed right you go get a transcribed make sure it no errors in there you got a little glossary index for how many chapters it don't have to be long whatsoever right right you can go on same fiber or wherever you want to mid-jurney or Dolly 2 and you can create a cover for it right all of this is cheap once you got that done then you can either keep it as an e-book by go getting you a Shopify account, uploading it on there. And now you tell your son or daughter, you teach them a pitch, a repetitive pitch that they

Starting point is 01:29:50 can do with their book because now they become an author. So at an early age, not only they got a business, a product, they got a career. You understand me that they started and they got a title attached to that at a very early age. That's very impressive. People will buy it just because of their age. Don't let it actually be good. Now they got a good quality product that if you put up.

Starting point is 01:30:10 marketing behind it it may take off but giving them an accomplishment like becoming an author at a young age and I got more to how I actually teach it but that was something that trains so much confidence and love towards the idea of business and entrepreneurship and it starts them off with some early wins yeah early wins that's a good I like to like think about things like that like one thing I notice in my life is that if I wake up and everything's going good that by the end of the day I feel like I can do more good shit that's I'm chaining together small successes.

Starting point is 01:30:43 Gotta make your bed. You make your bed, you work out, you eat good, right, you drink your coffee, you get all your emails done so you can have a clear head, etc. Meanwhile, picture an alternate reality where you like get out of bed and you immediately smash your shin on the bed and you know, it hurts like fucking hell and you spend the first 15 minutes like bandaging it or some shit and then you slip it fall in the shower and you're fucking cars a flat tire. Doesn't this sound like a day where you're not getting anything done?

Starting point is 01:31:09 You know, a mood is. one long reaction to an emotion. Yeah. So the moment you have a bad emotion at that moment, you're going to be reacting to it the whole day. That's the idea of trauma. You constantly looping in that moment and you take that moment and you stretch it out for a whole day.

Starting point is 01:31:23 It's just something else happens that allow you to reset it. So like if you don't start the day off with a good mood, you're going to have a bad day. Because mood really determines the quality of life that you live. That's a fact. Okay. So if you had anything that, particular that you would recommend that somebody who watched this podcast and they liked it and they wanted to tap in with more of your stuff, where would you send them? I would send them to high-level conversations.

Starting point is 01:31:50 On YouTube primarily? Yeah, that one's on YouTube primarily, or you can listen to the audio. You understand me? I do have books out like how you were just breaking down a routine. I teach people that's called paradigm key, solution-based mind reprogramming. So it's super simple, like people in jail read it, people all over read it, and they be like, yo, this has changed my life because I'm made it very concise, no fluff information in there at all, just things that you read, things that you can do, perspectives that you have, things that you gain. So that one I think

Starting point is 01:32:19 was very solid and sometimes I forget that I'm an author until people send me testimonials on how they love the book. But besides that, I think that that's a good start for me, man, and I think that if you gain perspective, knowledge, and observation over the things that I curate, you know, I can guarantee. And this is my 100% guarantee, 119%. You know, I can change your life particularly because I can change the way you think. And if you change the way a person thinks you change their world, because our world is made up of our thoughts, our ideas, our perspective, our philosophies, our principles. So that exposure that you get from somebody like myself and the guest and the information,

Starting point is 01:32:55 it will force your mind to expand in a way to where you can never see life the same. I like it. You're pushing a good message, man. I appreciate it. I see a lot of people out there pushing bullshit, but you seem like you're pushing some important ideas. Appreciate that. Appreciate that, man. Thank you for inviting me on to the show. Hey, Dizzle.

Starting point is 01:33:13 You understand me? I appreciate you for having me as well. My pleasure, man. I'd definitely be watching some of y'all crazier episodes. You know. You've seen him getting twerked on and shit? No, I didn't see that one. I ain't see that one. It's out there. It gets wild out here. Yeah, yeah. So I've seen. We do it all. We get wild with it. We get intelligent with it.

Starting point is 01:33:32 And that's why I said, like, as much crazy shit that we see on here, I want to be able to, like, bring people in that it can give out some real information, have a dope message out there. You may get everything. So, yeah, man. Yeah, most definitely. You know, last but not least, man. Media is so important, man. What we pay attention to, you know, like, you can tell him who a man is by what he puts in his mind.

Starting point is 01:33:53 You know, you get, you don't even get 24 hours in a day because you can't really count nighttime. That's when we're sleeping. Right. Right. You go get a solid 10 hours in a day and maybe five hours where you're actually good at making decisions. Right. Right. And depending on your brain, it may be a good three hours for some people. So you got to change the quality of what you intake if you want to change the quality of your life. You know what I mean? I don't know if I'm going to get a good quote. You could tell a man by what his hands produce.

Starting point is 01:34:18 You understand? You know, what his mind produces. Right? So like if you see a man with nothing, it's because his mind is full of excuses. Damn. And excuses I was always taught or build monuments of nothingness, right? But a person that finds reason and they find a way, they have everything. Right.

Starting point is 01:34:35 Because no matter how many blockades you put in their way, they will always find out of reason. they will always find a way. Some people got a problem for every solution. Some people got a solution for every problem. Respect. Facts. 19 keys. I appreciate you, man.

Starting point is 01:34:47 Likewise. AD, thank you for co-hosting. Gang shit. No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe. Nojumber.com if you want to support.

Starting point is 01:34:59 And check both these guys out on YouTube and whatnot. Appreciate y'all.

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