No Jumper - The A$AP Ferg Interview

Episode Date: October 8, 2019

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Let's get right into this content. No Jumper, coolest podcasts in the world. And today, we're extremely honored to have the one and only ASAP Ferg in here. How you doing, man? It was good, bro. I heard the stomach's not feeling too good. Yo, food. Food and Hennessy.

Oh, really? Okay. So you're still on the Hennessy? Oh, yeah. I'm still signed with Hennessy. The Hennessy wasn't the reason. I was turned up off to Hennessy, but, the food just got my stomach fucked up right now.

My stomach is mad at me. So you don't trust Jamaican food on the West Coast? No, I love Jamaica food on the West Coast. I mean, that's a tough part about being on the West Coast, honestly, is if you spent a lot of time in New York, you definitely got your Jamaican food spots. It's just spicy. The spicy be killing me sometimes.

That's what I close you up. I'm West Indian, I'm Trinidadian, so, like, I was raised eating spicy food, but yesterday, that shit just... Right. Yeah. So do you smoke still? No, I'll smoke. You're over it?

Were you ever like big on it or? Nah. No. Not big on it. Like I dibbled and dabbed with it. Like I ain't never really became like, hell yeah. Really? Yeah.

You smoke? Oh yeah. You get paranoid? Yeah, a little bit. Sometimes. I definitely like shouldn't smoke before interviews because it kind of makes me start playing head games with myself. But my thing too is like I just left the gym and then I get in the car and I got like this much of a spliff left and I just started smoking it and I was already like my heart rate was up so high from

being in the gym and then I feel like all of a sudden I'm taking in this tobacco or weed and I'm driving at the same time and I'm just start being like like he just kind of fuck me up yeah last time I smoked that was in L.A. And I just was like man this shit ain't for me. Really? Because it was just yaw weed is different out here. Yeah for real. It ain't that chocolate tie that you buy in the park. Yeah. Buddy comes through and he's smoking everything. And he's like normal with it. Right. Yeah, I can't keep up with him. Now, when I left New York and moved to the West Coast was definitely when my weed smoking just completely hit a different level.

Like, I just never, I didn't know anybody who just smoked multiple blunts all day every day until I got to the West Coast. You from New York? I'm from right outside Boston, but I lived in Astoria and Bushwick for like 2004 to 2010. Oh, word. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I always thought it was weird because I used to be riding BMX every day.

and then all of a sudden I moved to the West Coast You nice on the bikes? I'm all right, but I was always just like riding BMX like every day. But then I moved to the West Coast all of a sudden you're popping within like a year or two and then you're like, yeah, you know, I used to ride BMX in New York in New York

and I'm like, damn, that's crazy because if I had stayed living in New York for an extra year or two, I probably would have ran into on just some regular ass skate park, riding bikes around shit. Facts. Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. That's a great way to see New York.

I do know Nigel. Yeah. I knew Nigel when he was like 15. Word. I might have knew him around that time too. Like when he was jumping a million stairs and shit. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember his first photo in a magazine he had like the $2. I love New York shirt on. I don't remember that one. You don't remember those ones? You don't remember those shirts though? That was like a whole thing in the BMX world

everybody would wear those fucking cheap-ass $2 shirts like just every day because you just dog your shirt out every day riding. Oh yeah. You just run through those things. Man, I was riding bice and some jiggy shit. I was I was, We got this thing in Harlem called Mori Gators.

Okay. Yeah, you might hear Cam, like, rapping about it. Constantly. Yeah, it's like $400 sneakers. And you were riding them? Yeah. Really? See, that's...

It's like gator sneakers. Right. That's really interesting because nowadays, I feel like it's way more common to see people skating around bikes and inexpensive shoes. Like, it's just kind of become a little bit more of an established thing. I feel like the skater style, period, is just they just making so much money off. Uh-huh. It's like street wear and like skater shit like now you can buy like dunks well you bank

could buy dunks for about SBs for about four or five hundred dollars right now you day two thousand three thousand it's going crazy yes close in general like from the from our culture of BMX or um skating and all of that but I always thought it's a shame that BMX kind of like lagged behind skateboarded in terms of like the overall culture and the fashion and involving itself and all that kind of stuff. But it is so much, it's such a physical thing. Like, you really, if you go out riding bikes for a day, you're getting dirty as fuck, sweating your ass off.

Skateboarding, you can afford to be a little bit more of like a regular person going out, dressed sort of normal. Right. Yeah. Nah, skaters, the whole swag of skaters is fire. Like, it's about, it's almost like, uh, it's like when you ride your skateboard, it's just, it's a certain swag, like that comes with it. When you ride your bike, there's a lot of dudes that ride bikes and I got no style.

No. It's like when you ride skateboard, like, you could wear Dickies every day with a baggy white tea and it's just like the vibe. You see all these videos of skaters in New York where like the style now is that they just ride like flat ground at like some basketball court type spot or whatever. And they just do super stylish flip tricks and they got their pants cuff just right. And they got, you know, the thick rim glasses and the perfect little beanie. It's just like crazy hipster skating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a whole new world.

But I'm changing that for our bike. riders BMX bike riders now you could get jicky you could buy a ASAP FERG red line bike now you know I'm saying now you got the the good merch to go with it the clothing and I'm showing on that we could be jiggy on the bikes too did you ever think about being sponsored or anything like that like did you even get that far into riding bikes at that time in your life when you were younger my dream was to be the X games so I mean like I didn't pursue it to that level of like you know being in like different whatever

training going that hard yeah yeah I didn't do that but um I used to watch Dave Merrill on TV rest and peace to the goat yeah rest and peace to them and I used to just watch like mad YouTube videos of you know Nigel Sylvester and just different um dudes that was nice on the bikes gone crazy and the kids that was in my neighborhood that was

gone crazy so um yeah Harlem crazy as BMX scene too have you ever been that mulele at least skate park in the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. Benaliz, yeah. That place was crazy.

That was one of the first New York skate parks I've been to. You ever heard of Edwin De La Rosa? Nah. Who I'm gonna show you him. He was like the ultimate New York City BMX strier. He was kind of like the dude before Nigel came along who was sort of like just the face of like New York. Yeah.

Because he came out at like, like, his definitive video part had a 50 song and he was like the 50 of the BMX game coming out of that time just because he was like... He got mad YouTube videos. Yeah. And he was just like, like, he was just like, like the first cool New York black kid riding bikes so fucking good like completely had a different image because BMX was always kind of was always white for a long time like there wasn't that many people from like a different background that were really that big it's different now but at that time

like he was like the first one that broke through and nobody ever made shit look cool like that yeah i got to check i got to show you anyway yeah so i'm curious because like it's it's interesting to think like you can't you come from like humble beginnings in new york and shit yeah when you think about those days, like how did those days of just sort of pursuing different passions around your hometown sort of like influence the stuff that you got interested and ended up making from creative standpoint? Wait, that was a long-ass question. I'm like trying to compute that right now.

That was one of those questions where you like don't really know what the fuck you're saying, so you just keep babbling and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't trying to babble. Okay, let's keep it more concise. Your upbringing in terms of your influences, because it's just interesting. You were riding bikes, you were interested in fashion, and then you come out making music and your music just sounded hella grown compared to the average person who just starts making music.

What you mean about grown? Sophisticated. It didn't sound like somebody's first project. Word. Oh, thank you. You know? Yeah, for sure. I had a lot of practice too before like I dropped Trapp Lord.

Like it was a lot of practice. Like I, man, I remember I was doing Rick Ross ad-libs and shit like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was like, Rocky was going around and playing out with music, the team, and like, when he go sit in these label meetings and they wasn't even filling me at first. They was like, oh, we want you. We're not really digging this dude, whatever, whatever. But I guess he's seen it in me and he's seen that I could, you know, be different and develop

my style. And when I had quit my job, I was working security, I had saved like $3,000 because I knew like we was going to pop, it was just a matter of time. So I just quit my job. And I'm like, yo, I'm just going to use all of this money to like develop my style. And that's what I did. So it's a lot of songs. I got computers full of songs that ain't even come out until like I really mastered who Ferg was to the game and my style and everything.

And I put those songs out. You're kind of lucky in a way because a lot of people sort of come out. They make a couple of songs. They put them online. They start promoting themselves like crazy. And then you always will have that memory in your head of, oh, that dude, that dude is whack. because you remember the shitty songs you heard from them early on. I feel like a lot of times there's a benefit to like training for years, making music, and then

eventually bringing it out. Hell yeah. I mean, yeah, I was, I never thought that I'd be even dropping the album on mixtape. That wasn't like a plan for me. It was just, I was always doing music because I loved it and I was battle rapping and just doing shit like that. I never thought I would be like recording a song because I'd just write 16s just to go battle rap. But like, when I, when, when, when, I, when, We said this is what we're going to do as the mob and we're going to make music and do this and do that. I had stopped putting in that effort and the work to like develop my style. And that's how I happen.

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I mean, they just obviously Rocky was the only one that was like really putting out music. I wasn't pursuing music. I was like I was stuck on like creating art and I was doing art shows and design and clothes and shit like that. I knew how to rap. So Rocky wanted to, he wanted to be a duo at first. So I didn't really have, I just started getting into the whole recording thing. And he'd been like pursuing it and wanting to do it.

I was just like, yo, bro, if you do it, then I'll come along with you type shit. And then I just started recording. So I didn't even really know who I was, identity-wise, to music. I just knew that what I liked to hear, like, rapping on different beats and shit. But like, he already had his shit figured out and who he was and what he was and what he was. wanted to do. His version of having it figured out though, like how much was that informed by Yams in the sense that Yams just had this insane cultural knowledge, this reference base, he knew everything about music and stuff. And I feel like that's a conversation a lot of times

people have is like how much was Yams responsible for helping mold you and Rocky into being like because you guys just seemed when you came out like you were more sophisticated and more ready for this and more developed and I feel like a lot of people like myself thought like I wonder how much of a hand yams had in sort of making this content seem so much more grown. I think yams was like I will puff and meaning like yams wasn't physically making beats and things like that like he was executive producing and a and r and he was he would reach out to different producers the beautiful loos and i guess clams casino or whoever it was at the time and bring people together because he was heavy into the internet and like he was on these different like blogs and shit like that.

You knew about his Tumblr before. Real nigger Tumblr? Yeah, the most legendary Tumblr of all time. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know his Tumblr was a thing until like everybody kept talking about it. Like, oh like, you know, Rockies on like, because that's how people discovered Rocky at first was through like real nigga Tumblr. And we always looked at Yam's as like a real genius because it was like, oh shit, this

is one of the first dudes who started a platform. online and then was able to flip that into a business venture, but not in the usual corny kind of way of like, oh, I got a blog, so I'm going to put some ads on it. He worked it in. His shit was like, oh, I had this super lit blog that has proven to everybody who looks at it that I'm a dope person who has really good taste and is really smart and knows about everything. And so when I say I got an artist, y'all are going to pay attention.

And then it actually worked. I was never really on Yams Tumblr. Like, I was on Tumblr, but I never, I didn't, I don't even know if I'll follow games. At the time, like, I was already, we was already in a process of turning his tumbler into the business. So, like, I was more so a part of the business and the new movement that was happening. I think Rocky and him, they was building on the Tumblr thing way before, like, I was involved. You were actually out there in real life, doing your thing. Yeah. Yeah. So once you start getting really famous, though, is it weird because you can't

just do shit, like, go ride your bike around and just be a regular person? in New York or did that set in? Did it take a while for that to set in? Man, I used to get anxiety going outside. Like, because it was like, I'll be with my girl. We go to the supermarket and shit. And like, I would have to brace myself to like have to talk to people. And because it's not normal no more. It's like, before I went from like somebody looking at me and it being a problem, like, we couldn't like, growing up in Harlem, you can't just be like staring at somebody. He was like, you got a problem. Like, it's always a problem. But now it's like I had to realize like, these fans are, you know, they're not looking

at me because they got a problem. They're looking at me because I look familiar or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, once you get into that rap or category, I know it's hard for people, a lot of people to understand that. It's like when you're looking at me all crazy in public and you're a grown man who looks like you could do something to me.

Because it's not a comfortable feeling for me sitting here taking this in. Exactly. But, and also even just like not on no beef shit. Like it's just a, uh, uh, you know, to be adjusting, like adjusting to fame is just a whole other psychological thing because I feel like we are conditioned a certain type of way. So it's like we have to break that condition and the tradition of how we think in order to move how we move.

Right. Yeah, like, you know, you have to be able to, even for you to have this business in this platform, you have to, yeah, you do what you do and you turn up and do all of this shit, but at the same time, you have to have real conversations. with people that like, you know, you have to talk with intellect and know what you're doing versus just, and you had to condition yourself to do that. There's so many things that you can do as a regular person

that once you're in some sort of spotlight, it's just that all goes away. Like the other day, somebody said something to me that I legitimately thought in my head, I'm like, I'm gonna see that guy, I'm gonna fucking punch him in the face. And then I was like, no, you can't do that anymore. You can't think like that. think like that, you know?

Like, and that just, it was weird because it actually pissed me off enough that I actually thought that and had to remind myself. Like, no, you can never just swing on someone again. Yeah. I mean, I never really had that problem because it's like, I just, I know consequences.

You know what I'm saying? It's just like, it's so easy to get into shit. I ain't saying like, we ain't never really get into shit like, because when we first came into the game, we was just, we was trailblazing, and we was just, kids and, but I always had the mind frame. It's easy to get into shit and hard to get out of.

I was never the one, like, the first one swinging this, that, and third. I always thought like, man, if we do this, it's going to be some repercussions after this. You know what I'm saying? We could swing and we could go crazy, but at the end of the day, like, we're going to have to suffer some consequences. You know, you're saying that makes me think. Even like fucking going to Canada, I have to always check in now because of some bullshit

Just because you had some little. Exactly. And it was a fight. Right. It wasn't even nothing crazy, but it's just like that one fight from when I was younger led up to me being 30 years old, still having a check in, you know, with them and tell them like, all right, yeah, that was years ago, whatever, whatever, I'm good. I came to Canada yesterday, like, or last week.

Yeah. Y'all let me through. I'm good. That's the one of the biggest things that if you got a random court case, whatever, I know people people who've got DUIs that they can't go to Canada and shit. Like as soon as that limited your ability to travel and to be able to take part in other countries and shit, that's the ultimate moment where you're going to be like, God damn, why did I do that?

And that was one of the first things that I realized like, yo, this shit can like leave scars. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like bullshit you do as a, and a youth can leave scars like later. I mean, it's shit that your parents teach you and shit, but it's like. It never makes sense. It's never really you like, whatever, whatever, but like, for real, it's easy to get into She's not hard to get out of. The biggest time I think of that is when I'm in line at 7-Eleven to busting backwards or whatever.

And yesterday I'm just looking at this lady and she's just buying a pack of cigarettes and a bunch of cereal. And I'm just looking at her. And I'm like, this woman looks like she's only been consuming cereal and cigarettes for her entire life. And what your body is is just the overall combination of everything you've put into it throughout your life. And when you're young, you just have no ability to think like, oh, I want to eat healthy things because I want to feel good. That just, you could never say enough to a kid to make that make sense to them. Yeah, that's crazy, right? Like you get older, you just start really being conscious of all of that type of shit.

Because as you get older, you just be afraid to die. Yeah. Exactly. You start to realize, I didn't give a fuck about dying when I was young. And now all of a sudden it seems like a pretty big deal. Yeah, you start putting the brakes on like, hold up. let me get more spiritual, let me, that's why I used to always wonder, like, why old people always go to church or, like, whatever.

Like, I ain't, I'm like, man, you can have church, you can pray in your house. You ain't got to go somewhere actually and sit and worship. But, like, people, I guess as they get older, they get more worried about, like, whether they're going to make it to heaven or not. Yeah. No, for sure. Like, and I don't even believe in God, but the older I get, the more that I can really, really see the value of things like religion, because it's kind of like when you're

young, you're so focused on your friends and your passions and the shit that you're really interested in. And then I think as you get older, you start to realize, well, you kind of cycle through friends to a certain degree. Like, you know, as you get older, a lot of times the person that you were friends with that you really cared about 10 years ago, doesn't matter as much. You start to realize that work on the music, yes, it's fulfilling and everything. But, like, for me, there's a part of me that craves just real human interaction that isn't predicated on fame or what someone could do for me or what I can do for them. And I see that in the church thing, that even if it's not always like that, because I'm sure

there's all kinds of superficial bullshit that happens when people go to church, but at least it's an attempt at bringing people together through something that's pure. Right. For sure. Yeah, I think that's what we all here for, really, is that human interaction and fill the togetherness and get through shit together and all that. I think that's what church and shit is for, really, honestly. Sam. My mom used to always try to explain that to me as a kid. And I remember I thought I was so smart because I had the best argument. She'd say, well, you know, when your father went to prison, like the people at that church were the only ones who held me down and made me feel like I was safe and cared for and stuff like that. And I used to say, well, you could have got that feeling from people at the bowling alley. And I thought that was such a good argument.

God damn. That's abrupt, right? But it's true because it's just like any group in the people could offer you solace at a hard time. Yeah. She probably didn't really appreciate it. I feel like there's a more concentrated group, though, that can kind of, like, get you through those different tough times, I feel like. Do you appreciate your family more now as you get older as well? Hell yeah. I mean, it's not, like, more than the usual.

I think I've always appreciated my family. Yeah, kind of, kind of, yeah, yeah, I do. I appreciate, like, my uncle and shit because it's like he's the only, he's my OG. So, like, he's with me all the time. He doesn't have been through the streets. He did time in the jails and, like, he understands life on a whole other level. And he sees things I can't see. So it's like, I couldn't imagine being in this game and not having them around.

And I understand why so much kids get lost being in the game because they don't got those OGs or experienced people around them or people that's kind of guide them. Because sometimes, like, these, everybody get rich and famous or whatever. And they be like, 17-year-old kids get rich and famous. And then they start telling people around them, even older people, what to do. And that's not what I got around me. I got, like, no matter how rich I get, no matter how famous I am, I got real people around me. That's like, nah, that shit is whack.

If you're going to make money, you should spend the money on hiring people that are smarter than you, or at least in one part of the business. Right, for sure. Or like for me, a lot of times I have to hire people who are, like, more social than me because I'm just not that good at, like, remaining in contact with people. You know, I just don't think I'm good at, like, remaining. Well, it's partially a problem of just numbers

because it's like, you know, when you enter, like, interview hundreds and hundreds of people in a year, it's like you might want to stay in touch with them so you could keep, you know, a friendship going or whatever, but it's just so hard to, like, even, like, like, tomorrow I got two more interviews. So it's like the interviews I did yesterday, I already kind of like falling into the back of my brain.

That's what makes me feel guilty is that it's like, you know, I met Rhapsody yesterday and interviewed her and she's so dope. She's dope. Yeah. So dope. I fuck while. If I was less busy, I feel like she's a kind of person than I might hit up once a week, be like, yo, how you doing?

Yeah. But I don't have those kind of relationships because I'm so wrapped up in this business shit. Do you feel like that? Hell yeah. But that's what like people around you is supposed to be for like, like my uncle I just spoke about or like my cousin or my manager. But they keep, like, it's a community that helps keep everybody connected. Because they know I'm out here, like, trying to, you know, shake and move.

So, like, it's hard for me to personally sometimes, you know, keep in contact with people. But what I do is, the best way I do it is like, the moment I think about somebody, I just hit them and be like, that was good, just shouting you out. But for the most part, they keep in contact with people like, yo, I just spoke to so-and-so, like, they're going to be in the city. So, because even when it come to artists, I'm not even with, I'm not even talking to like YG all the time or talking to whoever, like, but he might be talking to their security or talking to like the homies that's part of their crews and making sure that we connect when

we hit these cities. And a lot of those people too, like I know YG and I think YG is incredible, but it's like, I know he's busy as fuck. I'm not trying to bother him or nothing, but you know that that's the kind of person that if he all, like one of these days, YJ ain't going to be around. And you're going to be thinking, damn, like, did I actually put in enough effort that I could have to really have appreciated that person while they were around? Damn, why you say that? Not like he's going to be gone, but that's how it is.

But whenever somebody's gone, don't you end up thinking, fuck? I wish I, no, okay, I'm sorry. Don't you end up thinking like, damn, I didn't, I could have appreciated their existence a lot more while they were here. He's going to be around for a very long time. Okay, why did you specifically, I 100% agree? No, yeah, like, that's what everybody. That's what your mother. That's what anybody that you care about.

You just, you just got to make the effort. Like, no matter how busy they are, how busy you are, you just got to, because it's just like, I always tell people like, you know, I know you've been busy. I hate hearing that shit. And don't tell me, I know you've been busy. Like, I'm going to be busy all the time. But like, you could come hang out with me while I'm busy. Like, come, like, do these interviews, come sit in a room with me or whatever.

And we'll go to lunch and catch up. And that's just how it has to be for me because that's how my life is. Structured right now, I guess, until, like, I get older and things are slow down and I'm running my business from the crib or something. But do you ever think about that? You ever think, like, maybe I'm going to just intentionally

accept less offers to go do stuff, accept less shows, and just really let my life just slow down a lot and just really appreciate things? Or do you feel like if you do that, you're going to get left behind? I did that last year. Okay. I ain't put out an album in two years.

I feel like we still see floor seats yeah so that's the thing like and we strategically did it like I sat down on my team and we were just like I was feeling burnt out

I ain't stopped since I had started touring flying I was just like fucking tired I'm seeing cousins that like

you know I'm not seeing my cousins but when I see them they're like fucking big and shit I'm like damn I'm not seeing Do they know me? Like, do they know me through the TV? So it's just like, I had to slow my life down.

I had took more corporate gigs because it's like you could get the big bag doing corporate gigs. I always think about that and how it's going to happen, but it didn't, it doesn't usually happen. It just trot back and forth with the high hills, the way you reacted. She got the heavy hills. We might have to move out of here. I'm not going to lie.

Yo, but yeah. So, like, I just took more. corporate gigs because you could get like the the price of three shows or the money you'll get from three shows you can probably do like one corporate gig and get that so I just started working smarter and not harder and not burning myself out and it allowed me to like spend more time my family and I did take a step back because I needed to like and I need to get inspired again when you talk about the corporate gigs versus like the real shows like do you have that feeling of like when you play a show to a thousand people that it feels super intimate and passionate

and exciting. And then if you play a show to 10,000 people, that it feels like a little bit less intimate. It might be cool because you can see a fucking huge crowd going crazy. But when you play a smaller shows, you kind of get a more intimate experience. Do you have that issue with doing like corporate shows versus your shows? Corporate shows is way different because it's like,

like say like a Hennessy event or something like that. Like I'll pull up and all like a Tiffany's event. I'll pull up and do a show. But it's really like I'm kicking it with. everybody versus like the full on like lights and the production and all of that. So it's more, very more intimate, very much more intimate and you can't expect them to like go too crazy as they will go at a show show because like they might be, it might be after work.

They got on shoes still. Like it's just different. There's white people basically. Nah. It's not. Not. Those people in like ties, people who work in offices and shit. Nah.

Hell no. You'll be surprised, man. I bring out. I mean, that's why they work with me. I bring out the crowd. I bring out, like, I bring out, like, cool people. So you're going to see some punks. You're going to see some hippies.

You're going to see some turned up black people. You're going to see everything in there. Can we get the story behind the, what was that, the Uzi video where you did it at, that hardcore show? Oh, yeah. I wasn't even, that wasn't a show. Oh, you did it just for the video shoot. I did a show.

Okay. Well, I did a, well, it was a show, but I put on a show, basically. I forget the band name. I forget too. Yeah, but my boy Adam DeGrosse, I'm not sure if you know who that is. Photographer, he shot like a lot of my stuff now. He's like shooting like Post Malone stuff. Okay.

So I might know. Yeah, he shoots a lot of those guys. So I'm like, y'all want this to be the theme of the video. So I'm like, yo, how can we like grab these people when? And I'm like, we just thought about it on tour and he was just like, yo, let's just do a show. So we did a show. I was the headliner and that's when I performed the song. How'd you feel about the love that you got from that fan base?

It was crazy. It was like a new world. But they're punching each other in the face. Yeah. Well, that shit was fired. That shit looks amazing. And the energy was amazing. Like, fucking seeing people really pull up with like the crazy Mohawks and like the clothes.

Like they was on a fashion shit too. Like so it was just so much stuff that we had in common. But they're not even thinking of it as fashion. They're just really wearing some ratty. vest that they sewed all these different patches and pins on, but they're not thinking of it in the, like, you're looking at it from a fashion perspective of like, wow, that would look appropriate on like a runway or some cool-ass new company's line. They're just like, that to them is just like, oh, I want to let everybody know what bands I like,

so I got a bunch of patches on this jacket. But I feel like that took a conscience thought too. Like, you thought you had to think about that. Like, oh, this is cool, like, because I got all my bands. And also I do think that they think about their fashion because I was looking at like an interview on sex pistols and um this dude uh mclaren malcolm mcclaren because they came out of like a weird sex punk type shop that was all the bondage that's how he was meeting the kids like all of the kids would come body clothes from his shop so they they had to consciously think about what they was

wearing whether it was or like a fucking whatever it was like a latex mask or whatever the fuck it was yeah they were on some wild shit yeah i feel like when i saw that video it was just cool because i could tell that the people, like I could tell it wasn't just a bunch of extras hired to be in the video and that it was actual fans. They were missing teeth and all types of shit. And they were just excited as fuck. Because like a lot of times, you know, nowadays,

people will maybe like wear a punk band shirt or some shit, but they don't really fully embrace that culture. And I think that when you look at that culture, it's really not that different from rap. It might be more abrasive. They got a different style, different attitude about certain things. But it's like, I don't know. I feel like they were appreciative of you,

to putting on for them. Yeah, I always think about that too because I like wearing band shirts and sometimes I don't be knowing like who all the bands is and I used to be like, damn, like, am I going be like considered a poser? It's like, nah, I can't, because I really, I'm a fan of the art. The art looks dope, but I do think it's, it's cool to discover the shirt and then like do research on it to just know why you like it or why you're wearing it. Because it's like a racker, it's like a rack of shirts like Iron Maiden and just different

shit that I see people wearing, but they don't really know the background behind it. Like for me, I love the artist that does like all of the Pink Floyd art and shit like that. I haven't really dove into the catalog of Pink Floyd, but I know it's like die hard pink Floyd fans out there. But like I'm really a fan of the art of the covers, the whatever, the stage, like when they had the plane crash into the stage, all of that shit. I didn't really even get into the music yet. Yeah.

So I still got time to do that. Yeah. And I think it's like you can appreciate a band for something besides their music in the same way that like, you know, you could appreciate, you know, the characters from a movie or like, you know, like you could appreciate a video game based on a movie and then not really care about the movie. Right. That's a fact. It's okay. Because it's like realistically the art is just as big a part of the band in itself. How much?

Not because people like to call you out. They'd be like, oh, you got that shirt on. Like, what you know about? Because I felt like that 100% when I was a kid because I would be going to the skate shop to buy like BMX brand shirts. And then I'd be thinking like I'm going to go to school. I'm like 14. I'm going to go to school and like I can't even 180. I'm going to be wearing this shirt.

Are people going to be giving me a hard time? And they would. You're just a fan of the culture. Yeah. No, and I just, I wanted to be into it so bad. I was trying so hard. That's how it starts. I was just brand new.

Everybody starts off like that. You got to be a fan first. And then you get into it. Yeah. This shit got me burping. I mean, the rule. have just changed a lot, you know, like, in the sense that, I mean, I know so many rappers that I see I'm wearing Slayer shirts and I know they never heard Slayer. But part of me is kind of

like, bro, I would like to, I would like if you just had to sit down for like 45 minutes and just listen to some Slayer and then just report back to me and tell me what you think about it because I'm very curious to know what you would think. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Definitely. So do you think a lot about like the visuals attached to your stuff? Like when you, when you think about your overall career, how important are aesthetics? Because we're talking about how like with Pink Floyd you could appreciate it without even necessarily caring about the music that much. Bro, like, that's what I think takes the music so long to come out sometimes.

It's just like when I don't have the rollout and then proper photos and the videos to go with it, like that shit is 100% the reason why like sometimes it takes so long for me to put music out. Because I believe that visually people need to see, you know, something that represents the music you're putting out. Like it just all comes to. together to me. Yeah.

Like I could, like, I'd be dropping songs every day out of the year if I didn't have to shoot videos. Right. But like to me, the visual is so important. Yeah. It would be so weird to, because I was listening to somebody at that conversation the other day and they were like, I would like to listen to Young Thug in the way that every night when Young Thug record six songs, I just get to listen to him.

And I'm like, I don't think you actually want to listen to young Thug. They want to hear like the creative, like if you could just hear it every night and not have to wait and then get the 10. songs every six months or however often a rapper chooses to drop. Like, could you imagine if there was like a- You'll get tired of- You don't want to hear the drafts, basically. It's like you want to hear the 10 best Aesap Furricks songs at the end of that year

that he came up with not the fucking five songs that he fucked around and experimented it with every night. I feel like that's what makes the hits is like you like discovering something, you coming up with a style and then you finally like it hits and you're like, oh, this is what it is I discovered it now I'm gonna keep practicing this style until like I really get something golden out of it and then that's the one that you you go with because I record so much but everything I record don't go out like the um ride song that I deal with a Todd Dallas signs that's four years old really yep wow and

the also the one that I got with burnt fires the dreams fairy tales and fantasies I did that was a line Remy four years ago why did you sit on him for so long because like I just, it was a different song for me. One, it was very like, I don't know, I probably overthought it. Did you re-record your vocals? Because you probably sounded different back then, right? Nah, I didn't re-record them. Wow, that's interesting.

All we did was just put Brent Fires on it. Uh-huh. Yeah, and that was all we did. That's so interesting. Yeah. You got that song, what's it called Limos and Hummers? Hummers, bro, you got like a fallout boy-type voice going at some point on that. When you hit like a completely different voice.

I never heard you like that. Listen to hip-hop. Oh yeah, right, right, right. But I felt like you did something completely different. You ever listen to Fall Out Boy? No. You gotta listen to him because you'll see the similarity vocally there. I mean, I'm pretty sure I heard like some songs from them.

I think it's just like a different style of using your voice. Melody. Yeah. I just brought something back. Like if you listen to Kissin Pink with me and Rocky, I'm singing on there. If you listen to like, if you listen to a lot of my old shit, like cocaine castle, I'm singing on there. Even a song that got called Fall 2, like when I'm just full-blown singer like an R&B singer. It's just like these different bags I go into and I just decide to bring that bag back.

Right. So when you have these songs that are from four years old, though, who brings them back to the forefront? Like, do you have somebody on your team that is like, yo, I really think this one might fit on the project? Or do you have it still floating in the back of your head? Well, with the ride song with Todd Dala, I just like, man, I love this song. Why wouldn't I put this out? It's time for the world to experience this type of FERG. And then, because that was something completely new.

And also as an artist, sometimes you get locked in and pigeonholed to what people love about you or what works for you. So from FERG, I know the brand, they like, man, we want the turnt-up shit. But I'm like, I want to challenge my listeners now. So it's like, I want to give them some shit that I really love. And back to your question as far as like, um, who bring these songs back is like Salam Remy, he just took it upon himself to get Brent Fires on it.

I wanted to work with Brent Fires for a minute, but he just, they was working with each other already on a song that I did. And he was just like, yo, I put Brent Fires on it, and I re-did the beat, listen to this shit. And I'm like, yo, the song we did four years ago, he's like, yeah, sounds crazy. I listened to it and it really sound crazy.

So I was like, cool. Yeah. Me, I just do the music and sometimes I just leave that shit with people and shit just pops up and it's a thing. You worry about leaks and shit? Nah, I'm worried about leaks and shit. When you have shit just floating around. I mean, I do. Like when it comes to like the new, new shit, but if it's like some shit that I had did with somebody, most likely, we did it and I loved it.

So if it leaked, it's like, all right, whatever. Right. Yeah, it was more song on them than me. When I asked for questions from the audience, you know, who responded as Bodega Bams, he said, one we're going to put our tape, L.O.L. Oh, shout's to Bodega Bands. We got a tape. We never put out. It's called Trapping in a Bodega.

Right. Yeah. Shit is crazy. Yeah. Shit is honestly crazy. You know what I want to ask him. I want to ask him how, because he did a song with Six Nine way back in the day. Word. I think he told me that.

I think he told me that. It's just so weird and random because it's like, Six Nine was just trying to get down whoever he could. And I could just imagine him being like, yo, Bodega Bins. Let me get a feature because he didn't know. You know, he probably, like, didn't really want to be, like, a lyrical rapper, like, Bodega Bambs. He just didn't know anybody and just ended up doing that. I would just love to hear the story because I bet there's some weird shit there.

I mean, when you are up-and-comer artist, you're like, you're just trying to work with whoever want to work at the end of the day. And Bodega Bambs is not like a light artist, neither. Like, you know, a lot of people would want to work with him. Yeah. No, he's dope. Exactly. It's just him and six, nine together is such a bizarre idea to me.

that they that that even happened it's not bizarre to me though i think six now wanted that hippie crowd that like we you know that weird like gangster hippie crowd is like the the same crowd a sap mob have the same crowd that schoolboy queue have danny brown have um that was his lane you know what i'm saying he came out with colorful hair colorful teeth and whatever the case may be so he wasn't the like a regular hood artist right i'm saying so Not at all. I think him collaborate and with a bodega bams and kind of put him more in that category of the hippie,

like different kind of vibe. You never met him? I met him like, I met him once, yeah. Nothing too interesting or? It was like quick. It was just like a what's up. I fuck with your music type shit and that was it. That's what I think is so interesting about where you're at in your career.

He came to watch me in Germany one time. He was side stage. Oh, wow. Yeah. But you've been through so many, like, you were the hot new rap crew. Like, you were, like, the new dude that everybody was excited about. But you've seen that game go through so many different. Changes.

So many new versions. So fast. And 6-9 is like, just, you know, you must look at that and just be like, what the fuck? Like, I remember when we came out and people were acting, like, we were bugging just for wearing designer or some shit. And now this guy got fucking 6-9 tattooed on his face. Do you ever just sit back and have been like, I can't believe that. I'm still like that shit is still working and that the game has gotten so wild, but that, you know, just that your appeal has been able to last for, because, you know, you've been

like a real rap for like, what, seven years? Maybe six years. Longer than that, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not surprised by it because, like, me and Rocky would talk about, like, the lifestyle and what we wanted to, the picture we wanted to paint back then. And we always pictured like kids with guns and vans.

You know what I'm saying? Like colorful hair and yams had tattoos on his face and all that shit. So I mean, the fucking pint of lean and like we already was on all of that shit from the beginning. Right. You know what I'm saying? So like to see where kids is gone, all that happened was people seen ASAP and that's what happened. happen. Really?

Because each generation just takes it to a more and more extreme level, right? Who was the different type of rapists that was dressed in different, gender bending? You guys were that for New York. Because I feel like those, like the same thing that was happening with Odd Future in LA, it just so happened that you had like, you had the fucking white girl mob up in the bay. You had ASAP in New York. You even had like, there was other people in New York too. Yeah, action Bronson popping off, all these kind of dudes who were just completely

doing shit that when you look at how many years we had of sort of just straight up gangster rappers, it was just a whole new thing. It was a whole new thing. And it was like natural for us because we were just being ourselves. We was really on some fashion shit. We was really on some,

fuck what anybody else thinks shit. This is what we are on shit. Like with the attitude, everything with it. So I think, and like really like what you see is really what we're painting. Like we was really like going to underground fashion shows her by air shows and going to buy Margella samples at like Tokyo 7 and shit like that. Like we was really like on that wave.

We were just rapping about what we was doing and creating visuals to it to our life. So I think what happened was we set a bar, ASAP set a bar. I think it's safe to say we set a bar with fashion. We set a bar with visuals. We set a tone with music. we brought like rapping on certain type of beats. We made that a thing. Like it wasn't really a thing to like have like New York dudes

rapping on like Midwest or Mississippi beats or Houston. It took a lot less to shock people at that time. Exactly. You know like early ASAP controversies, the girl mouth in the N-word in the Rocky video, the white girl. Like even just Rocky having like white, tall-ass models in his video and shit. People were like, whoa, like, that's fucking crazy.

That's a whole conversation. And then you look at the game six, seven years later. Everybody's doing it normally. And there's just so much more ridiculous shit going on that it's like, if you were to do one of those things, it might not necessarily get as much attention because you do have insane face tattoos and hair dye. Yeah. Even like when we was wearing the Jala bears, like the things that the Muslims wear, like when

that became a thing, when KTZ was. designing these long things. People like, oh, they got dresses on and it. It ain't dresses. It's just another form of a style. Like, you go to Dubai, like the sheiks wear this type of thing. So it was just like people didn't, people wasn't, people wasn't elevated to that point. And then like they were just always getting, they just always had to play catch up. And that's just literally who he was in the hood. Like literally like even like before ACGs was was the thing. I wore ACGs because I seen people in Philly or the DMV wearing ACG Nike boots and I brought it to the hood and they're like, yo, you get them Power Ranger boots from.

You know what I'm saying? Then like when they got on the Nike boots and true religions out, we moved on to like something else. Just like when they was on throwback jerseys, I was wearing like diesel jeans and seven jeans and antiques. I remember I left New York 2010 and then I didn't come back to like maybe 2013 and all of a I come back and I'm seeing dudes who look like they're like selling drugs on the corner, but they got sweatpants with leather pockets all over them and shit. Sweatpants or with the drop crotch pockets and shit, you know? Like the fucking like Rick Owen stuff.

It happened so fast that like the average guy in Brooklyn was just all of a sudden rocking some shit that three years before our motherfuckers would not have gone near. Yo, we was called gay. We was fighting. We was all of that shit because of bringing style into the hood. People just didn't understand this shit. They were just like, yo, like, why are y'all wearing colorful skinny jeans or this, that, and third, or whatever.

And we just, we was just doing what we wanted to do. We seen something we thought it was cool. We knew ourselves, and we was just cool with that. And that's just what we continue to do. And as far as like where the state is now, I think people are just, it's not even stylish what they're doing now. I think what they're doing is just trying to make noise, period. So you got people just doing shock value shit and playing their self.

That's the new generation of everybody just trying to go viral and everybody is super aware of what might go viral and that sort of governs everything. And that's what like, that's why I could just wear a white tea and be cool because it's like at this point that's almost like the appropriate reaction to a lot of the craziness. Yeah, like we got to regulate like what's happening and we got to like, I'm going to continue to do things with style and continue to do things, but it's just like everybody is, everybody is trying to be so different that it's not different. Right. When I asked for questions from the audience, somebody pointed me to this old meme that I haven't thought about in a really

long time, but it's basically, it was, I think this was like very early in your career. And, oh, no, it was about the time your second album came out. And this guy tweeted, Asaf, Ferg announces the name of his forthcoming album. And you just responded second. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I did not know what forthcoming meant. Totally understandable because when you look at that, it's like, yeah. We laugh about that shit all the time. Like, I dead ass ain't know what forthcoming meant. And we and every, people was probably laughing and act like, oh, this thing is sell so stupid. This dad and third. Like, did you know what forthcoming meant? You were fresh up off the block. Yeah. Like, I lied and said,

like, I just woke up. But really, I did not know what forthcoming meant. So I learned. I'm glad I get that story. But hey, I don't think there's anything to be embarrassed about it. It's just a funny, a funny memory. It's mad funny. Yeah. It's OD funny. A lot of people wanted to know about the Raider clan brawl that you were allegedly

involved in because we've had multiple people sort of give versions of it on the story that were from the other side, but we've never heard somebody who was actually there describe it at all from your side. And I know it's some ancient shit. It was just a fucking crazy fight that happened in Miami. me. The shit happened so fast. It was like, it felt like 10 seconds. Right. Yeah, it was just, they was, and it happened so fast and when we, it was after a show and like, it was like a fence and people was hopping fences and shit. I don't even

know how many dudes was there on that, on the other side. Like, I just, the shit was a blur, honestly. Do you, do you look back at SGP's career and be like, damn, like, that he could have been great. No. You never were a fan? Nah, we was all fans. We was crew. Like he was coming around and he was screaming.

I knew it was something not when he was coming around throwing up ASAP and screaming Raider Klan. So he had his own ideals and he had his own mission or whatever he was trying to go on. Right. He trying to create his own world. but he was trying to do it through us like we was technically raider clan if that's what it was like you know what I'm saying you was coming around us screaming raided clan who's your clan like

where are they right but from from a lot of people's perspective you all lived in the same house you did huh for how long uh this is in the beginning so it was like a few months yeah yeah I think I just a lot of fans out there that just wish that they could live out an alternate reality in which SGP had sort of like remained in the ASAP universe and made music with you guys in those early days and stuff. Yeah. That beef was really inherited because it was like I had a, everybody had a problem with him because I guess him and Rocky fell out because Rocky brought him around like I ain't know that

nigga. Well, Rocky knew that he was ahead of his time. Oh, he was for sure. Like beats and all of that shit. He was doing something totally different. that really when you look at a lot of stuff now that's popular in the underground stuff, it's totally like sort of stuff that was born out of some sounds. The SGP was kind of really early on.

Yeah. The other thing that a lot of fans really want me to ask you about is that that time that you... You're taking me back to... All the school shit. That's what I think no jumbers for is we've got to ask you about stuff that like nobody on the radio shows would ever ask you about. What about the day that you and Gucci got into it on Twitter? her back in the day. Oh, man.

You beefed with the old school, volatile, angry-ass Gucci. Man, I had to be very clever with my rebuttal. Right, because how do you argue with the fucking OG like that, right? First of all, I'm not gonna argue with him. I'm just gonna, like, I forgot what I said. He said, he said, some real disrespect for you. Like, yo, whoever the trap lord is or whatever, he says something about, he said, your moms or some shit like that.

shit like that. Like, mom's gonna suck a dick or some shit. That was Gucci. Wow. This is like right before he basically like got locked up for a few years. I got a story though. I got so he said um, I said something about him being washed. That was how I answered that. And then I went on a breakfast club, I think. And I was like, yo, he should want me to like mimic him or want me to, you know, embrace, you know, well, he should embrace me for like being a younger, you know, he's the trap god. I'm the trap lord. I'm the trap lord. But also my argument was my name was the trap lord before he started claiming the trap god Because if you look back on the date of my album and the video work, I was always calling myself the trap lord

So that was a that was a lot of argument but I seen Gucci and Miami recently no no no I'm cool with Gucci now But like he apologized and everything yeah and we laughed about that shit but during During that time of that Twitter shit when he was whaling on everybody, I had seen him in Miami and I was by myself, for some reason, I didn't have no security with me. I have no manager with me, nothing. And I was in the airport and I'd seen this motherfucker. I hope he don't see me. I hope he don't see me.

Don't see me right now. At the airport. That's funny. Because you could totally be at the airport by yourself. You know, like you might not go anywhere else, but you feel safe in the airport. Yeah, but like shit. At that time, like Rocky was telling me Gucci was looking for me and all of that shit. He ran up on Rocky in the club like, where that nigga Ferrigan?

Yeah, so it was, he really had it out for me. Wow, that's so crazy because you know that that was Gucci tripping, like, at a point where he was not in the right state of mind because the Gucci that we all know and love would never go beef with some new hot rapper. Like, he would never like start a beef over some little shit because he, I think he knows his role and he knows that he's supposed to be this elder statesman in the game and that that people don't want to see him just talking shit to a young dude.

Yeah, like, that was an interesting time. I mean, that was like the same time period that he was really wowing out on Twitter. He said some amazing other things too. Yeah, he was going crazy on Waka. And I'm like, oh, he definitely tripping. There's things he said at that time period that I still wonder if they were true.

I'm not going to repeat them. Some people know what I'm talking about. But, yeah, like, the transformation, though, is amazing. Yeah, exactly. Bro, his abs. Different. How? What do I got to do to get abs like that?

What do I got to eat? Like his belief system, whatever he did to like, that's what I'm talking about conditioning. Like I read his book too. Like he was just fucking up, fucking up, fucking up. Going to jail, freaking out a way to record music while he was locked up and rehab, this to add a third. But then it was just like one last time. He just got it right.

And it's so shocking when you're reading the book because he keeps fucking up so many times. Yeah. But he keeps fucking up his life so many times and he keeps like saying that he's going to get better and then something happens and he starts getting fucked up again and blah blah. It happens so many times in the book before he finally gets his shit together. But now the extent to which he really has his shit together is like the most motivating shit. Like damn, if Gucci could get it together, then everybody could get it together. Every lean-sipping crazy-ass dude that I know. Gucci's in Milan. Yes.

At the Gucci fashion show. Wow. He had never left the United States until like a year ago. Wow. His whole career because he was always on papers. Yeah, that's crazy. That actually made me genuinely, like, extremely happy. Like, seeing him just travel in the world and finally getting to live that?

He's the, he's the hope, for real. Shout to Gucci. I appreciate you coming in, man. This was really good. Oh, man. This was really good. Why is the album so short? Or EPU, right?

Do you? I listen to it like five times today because it's so short that it just keeps replaying. That's probably, because maybe if it was so long, you wanna listen to it five times. That's true, I listened to it in the gym today a couple of times and various normies were coming up to me and being like, I like this shit, what is this? Word, wow.

That's a good sign. Yeah, hell yeah. It's short because I just didn't wanna do a long-ass album. I feel like that's where music is going now. It's like short and like some people just put out singles, you know, just one joint. There's like YouTube or rappers basically who, like, the only time you really pay attention was when they just dropped that one YouTube

video, it's a dope video. Yeah. And they don't even need a project. Yeah, that's what I feel like music is going more towards. But, like, I guess, like, when I put together a project of work, like, and it'll be like 12 songs, maybe it's like skits and just me trying to tell a story. But this is, like, really was about the Sonics and me working with more females and just getting off songs that I really love.

I just put them out. I'm how'd you put Rico Nasty on there? No, Rico Nasty is ill. Such a cool person. Such a great. She's dope, man. She's awesome. Yeah.

To me, she's going to have a promising career. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And she's just got that. I like it because she got such a different look and different style. Different angle. Totally different angle on what it is to be a woman. Just like Tierra White.

She's amazing. Different angle. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not compromising at all. That's what I fuck with. And I got nothing against girls who like show a lot of their body and stuff. I think that's totally understandable. Oh, we love that too.

If we had that, we would do that, you know? Yeah. But I mean, it's just dope to see girls, like, as the shit develops, that could really like go sides of it. I mean, just like dudes, like, we got layers to, like, what a dude can do. So, like, it's good to see it happen with females. Nobody's mad at Gucci for using a six-pack as a promotional weapon. I'll be doing the same thing, you know?

Fendi. You think you ever going to get to that point? You're going to get sowing to the working out and shit, and you're going to just start posting fucking shirtless picks and shit? I do that shit now. Yeah. You're owning it. Yeah.

Yeah, I do that shit now. It ain't like I got like the like my stomach is hanging over my dick like I got I'm stocky like My shit look nice, I should sit up but to go full Gucci main and really be like chicken and right chicken and broccoli for like he must just I don't know how the hell he did that I'm just fascinated he definitely like he definitely got a team though You should have a team like when you got that much money you got a team that's making sure you're doing the right thing but he inspires me too because I've watched his Instagram story and seeing him hopping into the McLaren at like seven o'clock in the morning by himself leaving the gym. Oh, word. And I'm like, this dude is a G because it's nobody like cracking the lip.

It all starts off with you, though. It's like all in what you want. Like I remember I had my trainer on tow with me, D. Mack. That's good. He had me working out twice a day. I lost 14 pounds on tour. Wow. Yeah.

So like it's just all in like your decision making. Like, you could either decide to have a rack of bullshit around you, or you could just have people around you that's going to make you a better person. You got to try if you want to, like, really live that healthy life. Even when you try, you get results. Even when you try, like, the moment you start, you wake up, you're like, I'm fucking tired of being lazy. And you do some push-ups, you start, your mind get clear.

You just start, like, feeling different. That's why I'm so addicted to, I wake up, and I just eat eggs, drink coffee, and then go to the gym and work my ass off. And I feel like when I start the day like that, it gives me so much energy to take on the rest of the day and make positive choices about, like, what I eat, what I do. But do you feel good about yourself too because you knocked out the shit that you just didn't want to do.

Nobody wants to work out. If I woke up and ate pancakes, you'll feel so bad. There's days of wash. Because how the fuck am I going to make an intelligent decision about working out or about what I eat for dinner once I already had them pancakes? Yeah, you already fucked yourself over.

You know, I'm not showing self-love when I do that. Or you could eat, you could just kill yourself in a gym and then have like pancakes. Like, I killed myself. So I could, I could have some pancakes today. I've been through a lot of years in my life where I justify eating bad by working out. And now I'm finally like eating really good and working out. And I could say that I probably should have just been doing this for a long time. Yeah.

But you could have your days where you dibble and dabble and the bullshit. Definitely. You know, tell the people why they need to go get this album. Yo, go get this album because it's the best work that I've put out. Go get this album because Timberland produced a joint called Hummelimo on there. Go get this album because I'm A-Saferg and I got amazing songs. And y'all know that shit because y'all make me go double platinum and triple platinum. Yeah, go get this album because it's great.

You know what I just realized? I got to say this. I was trying to wrap their interview up, but I got to say this. You ever have the problem where you get in your car and your car just auto-pe? plays the same song every fucking time you get in your car. My car does that. For real? Because it's like, I don't know why, but it will just always auto play the first song

under A in my phone library. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So that she used to happen with the weekend. Really? As soon as I plug the shit up, the weekend just come on all this. I used to hate that shit. Every single time I get in my car, put in work. Put them in the dirt.

But it's a chopped and screwed version. I don't know why. I don't know how this ended up in my car. fucking phone but it's like and I always like that's up not slopped up always like that song always appreciate that song never really thought about it that much I'm at the point where I feel like I need to just add some random song to my iTunes library so that it won't because and then every time I have to think about it and today actually when I was going on my way to listen to your first album I heard that song at regular speed for the first time in a long time and it sounded like fucking

looney Tunes music because it sounded so fast to me. Wow. That's funny. Yeah, that happens with a lot of people because, like, A, that's a blessing. Even, like, in your phone. I get tons of pocket dials. I got pocket dial from YG the other day. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, just because I'm probably one of the first people in his phone.

Wow. It's crazy. It hurts. You're like, oh, so you don't want to talk to me. ASEF, Ferg, yo, it's a real honor, bro. I appreciate you, man. Thank you, bro. No Jumper.

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