No Jumper - The Adam & Wack Show # 44 with Jason Lee: The War in Stockton, Leaving Kanye & More

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Jason Lee gives updates on his Stockton City Council campaign, Rihanna and Mayweather giving their support, Ice Spice vs Nicki, BIA vs Cardi B, Kanye vs Pete, EBK Jaybo, Hollywood Unlocked awards, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam and Wack Show. I assume where are we recording? How are you doing? It was very hard to lock this man down. It was not hard. Your schedule all over the place, different balls and gala's and fashion shows and runways every night. He's talking about balls is in like events.

Yeah, not balls. Although I would assume he's got a few different sets of balls that come in out of his life. Listen, I'm surprised you all want me on the show because my life is literally boring right now. Why? What are you mean? I mean, it's just I'm on a different vibe right now. They said you lose it in the thing. They didn't say that.

As much as you all, as many people y'all are talking to Stockton, y'all know I'm winning. It's losing and Jason Lee ain't never been in the same sense. I don't know who you talked to. Who you saying you winning? Wack, I'm not letting you pull me out of the Zen that I'm in right now. Who's your primary op in this mayoral race? There's no op. Everybody, you know.

There's some lady. He got mad because I followed her. No. I didn't know it. Let's be clear. I did not get mad. I put the team owner. My followers did.

him in said, be careful with whack. He's hanging with the op. And I said, oh, really? They told me you a follower. I said, okay, this is cool. Look, I think everybody should follow her. I follow people that, no, I don't follow losers. Everybody should follow her.

I haven't seen her, but how could a crusty old lady compete with somebody like you? You're a mogul. You're a brand. I don't know. I assume she's crusty and old. She's not a crusty old lady. Does she white? She's a black woman.

Then I take it back. I respect her so much. She's not a crazy old lady. She is a social worker. She's just not doing the job and she's not fit for the job. But I don't want to bash her because, you know, the thing they're going to say is he's attacking a woman. No, he's not bad. For one, she did a great job putting the water in that swimming pool.

She did a great job. She did not do a good job with putting water in the swimming pool. What happened? So somebody took a dump in it like Caddyshack? No, in our community where I grew up, you know, in the hood, a pool is a big deal. For those people that don't know, it's a big deal. community pools, you know, a lot of families of color. We didn't grow up with pools in our backyard.

You know, now that we all got money, those of us that got money, got pools, but when we grew up, we were poor. We didn't have a pool. We had one community pool on that side of town, which was McKinley Park. For 10 years, that park has just sat there with no pool in it. So kids, they've taken the playground out. They basically, the homeless have taken over the park. I did a video on March 23rd with dead dogs and there are homeless people, people selling drugs, no playground, empty pool. So I climbed the fence to get video the pool.

I didn't know the climate of a fence would go viral. Just from climbing the fence? I climbed the fence and went viral. You should have seen water. chlorine levels perfect. No, it's not. The pool has basically been shut down. But now that I've been pressing about the pool, now they're putting $16 million into the pool.

They just did a groundbreaking now. She's trying to campaign that she's been staying on business. So Stockton just had $16 million that they weren't using? Stockton just had an overage of $50 million that they overbudged. in a city where they like are over 100 police officers down. There's like one poor, one per 12,000 residents right now of on staff. Where the money go? I ain't in there yet.

That's the thing. They passed the measure A tax where they got the citizens to approve a $360 million tax that the city got over 10 years. They put it in a general fund and they've been using it as a piggy bank. Then they put something in the language where they could vote to renew it. So they just renewed the $360 million for another 10 years and haven't added more than 10. They added 40 police officers, I think, in the last, what, 10 years, and crime is still crazy. They just had a shooting the other day. Kid just got killed on the freeway the other day.

I mean, the city's, it's out of control. So it's doctor moving like that. Yeah. I know it gets real up there. Oh, it's out of control. You know, that was the where one of our guests was from. No, a couple of years. Haiti, baby.

A couple of years. Yeah, yeah. You haven't interviewed EBK, J-B-B-B-G-B-J-B, right? I have. Or you have. So you've interviewed two people from my time. Will you commit to freeing the political prison? No, he's not a political prisoner.

How is he not a political prisoner? Well, let's be very clear. I don't have any authority to get him out of prison. I've talked to- Oh, he's in jail. Oh, yeah. I've talked to Jabal on the phone and I've, you know, because part of the issue

in dealing with crime isn't just like going after people and putting him in jail. It's figuring out how to do poverty alleviation, create jobs, create opportunity, and meet with these people. I know this is my hood. This is not a city that I'm just going and running for it. These are the streets that I ran in.

These are the streets my brother died in. These are the streets I got shot in. So for me, this is more than just a sound bite. This is like my family has died in this community. I have friends that have died in this community. The store that I'm going to shut down, my friend Stephen Shelton got murdered in in 1997 when I was on my way to pick him up and I didn't get there in time. So for me, this is very personal.

What kind of story? But let me say this because I know that there's, that Jaybo has been up here. And from what people are saying back home, a lot of people talk about this show. And they talk about you. And they'd be like, yo, Adam is really gaslighting the shit that's happening in the hood. I said, no. If Adam is giving them a platform to talk about their music, and what they're putting in the music is the stuff that's happening back home,

we have to look at this holistically. Chicago shit going on. Same type of thing. Gaslighting is creating a narrative that doesn't really exist out of thin air, like an alternate reality narrative. Whereas, like, me having somebody on from Stockton who's in some gangster shit and talking to them about gangster shit, that's not gaslighting. Alternate reality narrative.

Do you know what the word gaslighting means? Have you ever heard it before? Listen, listen, gas lightning is when you have a guest, and he's up here talking about everything but that, and then you bring it up. How could I not ask about the premier celebrity from the town that he is running to be mayor of? So why, when I do it, you tell me that I'm starting shit.

See, I set your park ass up. What I talk about, what everybody else is talking about, you say, hey, your shit started. I said, no. I'm simply talking about what everybody else is talking about, but just like me and you, when we talk about it, something we have in common, everybody blows it out of proportion.

Gaslighting is a colloquialism loosely defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality. Well, when you think about hip-hop and you think about the stories being told in music that actually have real lives attached to it, some of those, some get exaggerated, some are the real deal. There's a whole case right now happening in Atlanta with Thug

where people are trying to say he was a, he's catching a RICO because he was the head of this organization. So people are trying to, I think, muddy up what's real and what's not real. I'm not all in J-Bow's music like that. I just know a lot of the people that are affected by the music, and I know the impact that he has on young people in the community. I fuck with Haiti Baby. I don't know J-Bah.

I don't know J-Bow. I don't know him, but I f-Wed-Wed. And you know what? When I talk to Haiti-Baby, when I talk to J-Bow, what they both have in common is they both, want to make it in the industry that we made it in, but this one foot in and one foot out shit. So they don't get along?

No. Of course not. One is north side and one is, you know, south side. Thank you. What's the one that has a problem with Mazzi? Oh, I don't know. If somebody in stock, you brought him up. I don't know.

Because Mollie said he hard. He said, we don't get long, but he hard. Remember you have one. J-Boh and that's him? They got beef and sack. What a blood and one of the crib? I don't know. You know, J-Bo just lost two brothers, by the way,

which is that. Yeah, which is really, you know. I'm not sure there. It's really hard to address stopping crime when you lose a family member. When you lose somebody that you love, you can't say to somebody, hey, sorry that happened. We just got to stop. That like resets the clock on there being any peace in the future. That always was the hardest part.

One of the homies from comp, you would always bring it up, like trying to kill the beef. I'm like, bro, how do you stop it? When you got a bunch of people in jail that's going to get out and say, yo, fuck you. Since I've been in here, he killed my brother or he did this. And he said, you know, at some point, we all got to just hit reset. Do you want to be the next one killed? Right.

At some point, like, the only way that stops is say, okay, both sides have suffered. Some people are a little more personal than others, but it's going to stop. It just has to just. But the likelihood of that is very small. When you're talking about gangs that are like primarily run by younger dudes, especially. I feel like, L.A. a little different, but like... LA a little different.

Chicago ain't gonna never stop. Well, and I'll tell you this, you know, I talked to somebody the other day and I, could I said to them, I said, you know, I've talked to the police, I've talked to community leaders, I've talked to the church people, I've talked to everybody, and I've talked to the hood, right? What is it going to take? What, like, what is the solution? I know more jobs,

more accountability, maybe one way out. I've come up with all these ideas. You know what they said? We were ready to die for this. Like, regardless... Who said that? This young person told me that. He said, we're going to die for. it is. And I'm thinking, like, you've got to know that there's more out there. I think for me, coming to L.A. years ago when I was younger and seeing Queen Latifah and going to

set and looking at black folks, politicking it. You went back. I went back with a different mentality. When you hear me say, I take my team to Dubai in London, right? Because I know they haven't been anywhere. Who did you take to Dubai? My whole team. Dubai, London, Thailand. I take them. They don't just run around here with me. When I'm moving, they move. Okay. Right? They have been there everywhere with me, right?

But I take them to these places because when you're leaving Compton, that you leave in South Central, a little city like Bekoyama, right? And all you know is this, and you land, right? You come off that damn Emir's flight. And you've never seen this. And you're on that highway coming into the inner city. It changes. It changes.

You're like, whoa, what is this? So now it's giving them something else when they get back here. to think about and possibly reach for because most people all they know is this. Right. It's all they know. We travel, you travel. We can sit here and have conversations

about Amsterdam, fucking Europe, all kind of shit, right? Because we can visually see we've been there several times, many times. But a lot of these people will sit here and be like, yo, what are you talking about? They don't even leave the block.

They don't leave a block like Adam. This is real shit. I got some homies that if I told them you got a first class ticket at Tom Bradley, right? Emirates, waiting on you, they wouldn't even know

how to go get that ticket. And hopefully they have a passport. So I take my homies to these places, I make them get their passports and like we're going. We're going.

You need to see this. And now they come back. They can talk to their wives and their kids. They're like, yo, I want to take my family back here. You know,

can you hook it up for me? And I'll let them use all my same, you know, my ground people will say, they just mimic what we did. But I get that. I get that.

I get that. I get that. Flying people to Dubai is expensive. Last year I took six, I went to six trips to Dubai because when I went with four, you was out there. You was out there. When I went with the first trip,

and I started seeing that one, everybody out there were real money looked like me. And I started having conversations. I met this guy. He said, hey, man, I want to do business with you. It was on my last day. I said, I'm going back. I went home probably for like a week.

Repacked, took all my friends, went back. And then I started, I started, you know, playing marketing the way I market, going to the club, blowing up the club with money. and buying bottles and left with a $2 million deal. But what I did was I took my friends and showed them. Like, whatever you're doing back home,

whether you're aspiring model, actor, whether you're an entrepreneur, stop thinking of the money in your neighborhood. Start thinking of that about that global market. You've been getting money all over the world. Wow. I'm now learning as a brand that, you know, when it feels dried up in the U.S.,

going over there to London, going over there to AACS. You know? Buying bottles in the club can give you a $2 million deal? Am I really messing up by not buying enough bottles? You need to, I'm going to be real. Like, if you told me your wife, take me and Lena work us over there, bro, people will do things with you that you told these. Yeah, they're going to make her eat camel shit.

No, they know. What you talk about it about? That's what girls get flown out there to do. No, but listen. At least suck the camel's gick or something. People get flown out. People get flown out everywhere. But the thing is that all the things I heard about Dubai, when I got there,

it was the complete opposite. I'm in the process. I've never. I just got to prove for my golden visa. I just, that's not a golden shower. You have to go out of your way to find out about the camel. Yeah, exactly. They don't just put it in front of your face.

You got to go out of your way to find a sheep. But the people I talk to, he talked to, our business. What are we doing? We want to put them here. They want to host this. They want to go sit down and this. We ain't talking about camels, bro. If you want to go to a camel race, I can hit Swiss Beats.

He got the number one camel team out there that's been one in the last several years. Does he? Yeah. Okay, but the whole thing out there, you remember this website, tag your sponsor? They would, like, they would trick girls. They would DM girls and pretend to be like, you know, sheiks or like powerful, rich businessmen from Dubai. And they would like, get the girl going. Tell her they're going to fly her out.

Tell her they're going to give her X amount of money. Then they're like, all right, but my friend is going to have to shit on you. You're going to have to eat the shit. They started, like, hitting them with worse and worse stuff. And it'd be these hot-ass Instagram chicks just, like, agree into it as they slowly get them into it. And that's how you find out girls are really. You did the right thing by being gay. But they were allegedly flying to Peter Nygaar's island, too.

You don't have to go to Dubai to get shit on to eat shit. You can go right over there, allegedly, to Peter Naguars Island and, you know, Sue and Medeiros and all your friends, they were over, they were doing that. But here's the deal. I don't know about these places. I know somebody was pooping on people in Pequooma. Who? You got a shiny ass head.

He weighs about 300 pounds. Who the fuck is that? Looks like a human cannonball. Yeah, I don't know anybody. I don't know what I is. But, but I do want to go back to the thing you said early about free and Jaybo. I don't know, 300 pounds. You're weird, though.

I want to go back to the point you said. about free and jabot because I think people and what I love about this whole election process this campaign is people are getting educated on how politics work. A councilman can't get somebody out of jail. I'm not going to go and start politicking with DAs. What I have been talking to DA about is creating

programs where instead of a teenager getting, you know, arrested and going down the prison pipeline or you know, being immediately. Let's figure out a way to disrupt that by putting him in a diversionary program or getting him a job or something to where he can, you know, he or she can be doing something more positive with their life

because I'm just lucky that I've always had this driving me to be better, but I'm meeting kids whose lights are just, they're just put out by the everyday experience that they have in my community. So, you know, I'm really serious about what I'm doing over there. I think at first people thought it was performing. Oh, he just coming back and he wants to now be a politician. No, I don't want to be a politician. No, are you going to be.

Are they going to trust you to be an appropriate mayor, given that you do not live there? City councilman. You live there. I'm glad you asked that question. He lives there. I got a home there. I went back, got a home, open up an office there. I work out of that city

four days a week and I come here three days a week. Right now I'm here more than I'm there this week because I have my award show coming up to Impact Awards. I'm organizing all my businesses. I'm getting everything aligned. I've been hiring staff to make sure my shit is buttoned up because once I get in there, I got to be there a lot. It's not that I can just be, even though it's a part-time position, I've got to have a full-time obligation.

So for me, I'm not going to sign up to lead my city and to make the changes I'm committing to making to be there once a week or twice a week. This is not a game for me. Do you got to fly to Sacramento or airport in Stockton? There's an airport in Stockton, but we have a whole system. I mean, I'll fly up, I'll work for four days. My driver will drive up, get me, I'll drive down in the sprinter, work the whole way down, get here, sleep.

I mean, I'm not sleeping as much. It's only a five-six-hour run. It's a five-and-a-half-hour drive, but it's a 45-minute flight. So we've been making it work. We've been taking helicopters, planes. No, stocking. Fly in the Stockton from where like Burbank, L.A.X? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Oh, no. Well, they stopped the United flight from L.A. to Stockton, so you got to fly private, but you can fly in the Sacramento and then just 40 minutes. So, okay, obviously, you are a good Samaritan. You want to see the best for Stockton. But how does this benefit you in terms of your career or like the overall personal brand that you're building to take on this kind of role? Great question. It's actually, I'm not going to say it's hurting my brand, but. But it is stopping some of the bags because when you're running for office, you can't do personal endorsement.

So like UTA, who is my agency, forget, hey, powered by essentially. There's none of that. There's no personal business right now. Yeah. But you can once you're done running, like if you, once you're in off. Oh, okay. So a lot of that stuff is to the side. Yeah.

So just so far I've lost over like over $1.3 million in deals, already endorsements. Because I can't endorse nothing. I can't. That's where you don't see me posting any brands. I was into it heavy with a 14. and 500 company. Now we've had to kind of pivot and see how Hollywood unlocked in the projects I have can plug into it.

But yeah, I can't I can't do, I can't personally endorse brands right now. So what does that tell you, Adam? So you want me to believe he's operating completely selflessly? There's got to be something in it for you in terms of what you're building, right? He's far and he cares about what his city is going through. You have never done

anything selfless in your entire life. I'm just trying to figure out what the play is here. But I left it. to be a play. There's got to be at least a little bit of a play in terms of how it helps him in his business in the long run, right? You know what's crazy? What I love about you asking that question, that's been the only real question people have asked like, why? You made it out the hood. You made out the mud. We call it Mudville, Stockton. You made it out the mud. You got money. You got the house. You got the cars. You got the fame. You got these relationships. You can go all over the fucking world. Why come back? You know the crazy part is? Why not? There goes. Why not? Don't act like you're satisfied with that answer. Why not? He's not good enough.

That's her. He's not done talking. Let me say, why not? I'm trying to get people to understand that, you know, regardless of what people feel about Nipsey or other people who have done what they've been able to do, we have to start showing people that either grew up with us or that look like us where we come from. I love my city. I've always loved my city.

My brother's body, the last time I saw it was in that city. My whole family is still there. My grandmother migrated from. Mississippi with 12 children, ended up having 15 children. They had 10 children. So my family is all in this district. So for me, to go back, come to privilege, fly to Dubai with Floyd Mayweather, partying with Rihanna, then got to go home and my niece is scared to go to school because somebody just walked up on her campus and stabbed her, classmate, and killed her. That for me is just, it's really hard to reconcile with. I do have a life of privilege where all my shit is like, good.

I'm going to still make crazy money every month, and I know I'm going to be great. So I have the freedom to move around how I want. My business has enough staff to build a structure where I can come to work for two days a week and go wherever I want for five days a week. So why not go back home and actually do the work? So what do I get from it? I ask myself that a lot because it is a major sacrifice. Like, okay, I know the why, but how did I get into this?

The how is because the need is there. The why is because my heart is there. And I think ultimately I've been going back and forth to the White House telling the vice president, yo, I think you should be moving like this or, yo, president, I think you need to pull up. And then I realized, like, the most change that my family and my community wants to see is not going to happen if Joe Biden is an office or not. I mean, we're looking at that election too. But all the times I was trying to get them to change in the White House, I have to go back and be the change in my community. And my community has embraced me moving back home.

and I think people are starting to go from why are you coming back to thank you for coming back? And that's just the shit I'm on right now. I'm not going to change up. I ain't going to become this buttoned up got a suit on everyday guy. I'm going to come in there with my cardiades.

I'm not, you know, they try to get me to take an oath of poverty, you know, stop flying on a jet. Or don't, if I got to get to a meeting with my people that I committed to

and the only way to get there is a jet, I'm going to take the jet. I'm going to do what it is. I'm not going to go and do what a lot of politician do and that's make people believe that they got to stay impoverished or they got to be poor or they got to be struggling.

Nah, I want to show people, that's how we get this fucking money, SBA programs, SBA loans, there's all the resources available to you. Yo, stop being happy that you get a job at McDonald's and start figuring out what that career ladder is so you can get a real fucking bag. I know you. I know your political ambitions probably are not

just being a city council member. I know you're thinking about being governor. I know you're thinking about being president. You could do it too. First of all, I don't want. Are you being serious? Are you playing? No, I mean, I could consider it. I think you're looking to...

I'm sure your overall goal does not stop right at that. I'm not having to stop in. You make some changes. You get some order going on, some things going on. And you know it's another office, right? Yeah. That you can take, that can help your city even more. No, listen, I've already been...

Once I said I want to do this and I started doing it and hitting the ground in order, let me tell you, we've ran a very... unorthodox campaign. Oh, I'm in the media. You need diapers? Not a problem. Wack, can I get diapers? 8,000 diapers come. They're like, you brought 8,000 diapers? I took no endorsements from the city. I get endorsed by Cardi B. Vote for Jason Lee. My campaign

manager is a six-year-old kid in the community who's growing up like I grew up. Your campaign manager is six years old? Smart as hell. And when the city told me, hey, man, we're not going to give you no money to help these kids. Go ask Rihanna. I did, and she did a party with a dinner party with me to raise money for the kids. And I brought him and introduced

him to Rihanna. So for me, like, I'm not playing into the politicking, right? People have been approaching me. I've been approached by people in the state. I've been approached by a lot of people who are like, yo, we could actually build a really good story. I'm like, bro, help me build Stockton. And if the work is good in eight years, because I'm going to commit eight years of doing, I don't want to be the mayor, I'm going to just do this right here. Then in eight years, I don't know where my life going to be. I may exit my company

at 50, whatever, I'd be 53 years. Oh, shit. I may not want to do nothing. Or I may want to do something. It just really depends when I get in there and, you know, do the work. Is it true that you're from a Crip neighborhood in Stockton? No, I'm from the hood. I'm from South Stockton. South Stockton is not a Crip or a blood neighborhood. It is just a neighborhood.

There's Cribs and there's blood. See, in Stockton, on the north side where Haiti baby is from, those are Crips. There's no bloods in North Stockton. On the south side, you got all the time. The thing about the J-Bos and the flyboys and all the different little groups at Nightingale, Crow Valley, they're literally in the same area. So you can pull out your driveway, make a right, and you're right there

where the flyboys are. So now what happens? Y'all going to the same stores. You're going to the same liquor stores because there are no healthy grocery stores in this neighborhood. You're going to the same little market. So you're running to each other.

They're killing each other broad daylight. And the thing that's crazy about the folks in Stockton, especially these rappers that are put in the music, you do know the people are listening because I'm in other meetings that they're not in and their names are being circulated. where your music, what you're doing, who you're talking to, who you're

talking to, who you're pillow talking to, your girls are talking to this. It's just a matter of time before it's, times out. Oh, yeah, it's like, you can watch some, like, half hour long YouTube videos that basically break down exactly what's going on. It's fucking insane.

My grandmother's house was in one of the songs. I'm like, damn, my grandma's house in the song. So it's to the point now to where, it's to the point now to where I, and it's even, it's even more real to me because the kids are right, like the kids are coming to me. Like, do you know,

Jaybo, you know, this rapper? And I think that's great for fame, but the impact is having with that next generation that has no guardrails on the realities of what their life is going to end up becoming, should they go down those paths, is really alarming. So I'm going to try to help as much as I can, you know, but ultimately I am running on a,

we got to fix this crime platform, homelessness, more jobs, more opportunity, and I stand on what I say I'm going to do. I like it. You feel like you might be taking your eye off the ball with Hollywood Unlocked, or do you have enough of a staff and enough shit going on to support it? Yeah, I'm not going to sacrifice what I worked hard for to lose it because my heart tells me to go home.

My business is operationally functioning better than it ever has. Our award show, like I said, this year is coming out. We have the biggest show we've had this year, and now we have distribution. I just signed the UTA. I'm working on two books. I'm working on a scripted project. I have just a lot more things coming up that I'm excited about. Nah, I'm not worried about it.

Can Adam 22, Lena the Plug, and Wack 100 attend this award show? Of course. I like it. Wack has been to the show. Wack's been to the show. Let me give Wack. And he don't go outside. Let me give Wack his flowers real quick.

Hold on, bro. Wait, wait, hold on. Bro, stop bringing in these fake narratives, but you get somebody hurt, bro. Well, you're not outside, though. You don't really go out. Who don't? You? You stupid?

You told me mad times. Like when I went to the Blueface concert that you said that you were going to be at, you're like, no, I'm not popping out. I don't really pop out. Okay, first of all, look, let me understand what y'all deal. Am I missing something right there? No, no. No, what he wants me to do, right? Is go back to when I was 17 years old, 18 years old, why I didn't know how to think. CK. Wack. Right? So I'm going to be real with you, Adam. These people don't want to fight me in the streets. If they want to fight me in the streets, they would have been approached me. It's been a lot of years. years, right? But you know what people

would love to do? Well, you've been approached. No, I have not. Have not been approached. That's cap. Now, check the comments. But you know what they would love to do, right? There goes what? Everybody's going to assume when they see me there's certain things going on. And these people,

especially a lot of people around you, they plan with police. They plan like that. You're a white boy, so you don't understand what I'm saying. And these little suckers... I overstand. No, no. These little suckers, they're like kids. They're me. They haven't been through nothing to understand. I'm not going to let you beat me at a game that I have retired. So where you think I'm going to be, I'm not. Okay. You understand what I'm

saying? I have an idea. It's not going to happen. We officially formally retire CK Wack by doing an ad campaign CPK Wack. California Pizza Kitchen Wack. You listen, bro. First of all, that name got retired 30 years ago. But don't you think pizza could really bring the city together? But that name got retired 30 years ago. I don't go by that name. Right. But don't you see the value of the pizza thing? But what I'm trying to tell you is

what you're going to do is you're going to get your building hot. You should stop playing. I'm not. Listen, there's nobody in your building like me. You got that right. None of them. You're going to get your building hot. How? Because you're going to break the AC? No.

You're going to force motherfuckers to start doing shit. And this is what they call you a culture vulture. This is what they say you be gaslighting shit. Because I brought up California pizza. You know, because you bring it up shit. And you're going to say, okay, so you're saying, well, shit's going to start happening. You shit really kick back. Well, see, I didn't really hear you were a cultural vulture until recently.

From him. From him. No, no, no. He's the one spreading the narrative. But see, this is how this is going on, Adam. When shit happens, it happens to everybody. Wait. Wait, let me say this.

I recently heard, because, you know, I'll fuck with you, and I'll fuck with you heavy. And I defend you many times. And I see all the viral stuff, and I post a lot because you're in a world that I'm not even in. Let me tell you why I'm not in. Just on some real personal shit. My brother, I probably love more than anybody in the world. He's on my neck. Joyner Lucas, shout to Joyner Lucas, who gave me this chain.

Not the chain, but the pendant. My brother, when he died, it was the only time in my whole life that I felt completely. completely empty to the point to where I wanted to kill everybody that had done something to him and actually tried to, right? Thank God. I wrote a book called, God must have forgotten about me in the book. I talked about how I went to somebody's house, knocked on the door, me and all my friends. I wanted to kill everybody who opened the door, mother, grandmother, kid. I wouldn't give a disabled. I want to get a fucking Ray was in that bitch. Everybody was going to die because that's mentally how f*** up I was when I watched him die. So for me, I understand when a person died, like Jaybo's brothers, I could understand how some of my family who's on the other side of what Jaybo, has going on feel some way about him. But then I also feel compassion for him losing two brothers in one day in jail. Oh, all this happened in jail? No, he's in jail right now

and two of his brothers got murdered in one day. Together, they were together. No. Separate. So for me, I understand. Like, I can feel it right now. I know what he's feeling. He also lost his father in a fucked way, right? So in many ways,

like, are you going to get Jayboe lock him up? Are you going to get him out? It's not even about get him out, lock him up. I don't know how he feels, how he's processing that. If he lost his father the way that he did, which turned him into who he is, and then on top of that, the life you've chosen to live is now led you down a path where you locked up while two of your brothers got murdered. I don't even know how you reconcile all that and then come back into the world.

Want to focus on having a career and this blessing God is giving you, but also now you're still in the streets and people want you dead. And now people want you locked up. I don't even know how to really reconcile that. And he's coming home. That's two brothers. So for when people see you talking to people who are going through those real life experiences, I think they're trying to reconcile like, what is your real interest?

You know, like, I'm at St. Culture, Virtually, that's another word I use. I try to defend you. But it's like, what is the interest? Because the impact of somebody like you with such a massive platform wearing a J-Bol, eBayK shirt, and then having a Haiti baby on. I know, for me, I can understand, we're just a platform. Like, that's why I say Hollywood, we're just a platform. But you know the streets.

I know the streets. they are everybody who wants to make it. They want to be on No Jumper. They want to be on Hollywood on Lott. And they will do whatever it takes to get there. And then when they go home, they don't have the security that we got outside. They don't have the top flight people to make sure we get.

They got to go home and get caught up at the market, trying to get some bread for their grandma, and then they get killed. My interest comes primarily from the music and then the street stuff is kind of like an extension of that. Got it. So, you know, it would be tough to figure out how to contextualize or make an interview interesting.

with just like a random gang member. But when you start with somebody like J-Boh, who's got a huge following and videos with millions of views and stuff, then, you know, you do an interview with him. You got to kind of touch on some of the content that they put out there. What kind of case is? I don't know. I'm not familiar with details of it.

But I know he has, I think he just has a year. Yeah, I think he'll be home soon. You know, he has a deal with Empire. So I'm sure between him and Ghazi, they can figure out how to make this thing a thing. But I can tell you if he continues to do what's happening in Stockton, I don't know how long that will. last because those people are already figuring he's on the radar oh he on the radar oh he's on the radar

oh he's on the radar so it's not even just you got the streets it's it's so in the music and you know people get in the comments and oh i saw this and you know they they're not stupid people you know the one thing that i'll say even back home with me i don't drive in stockton i get driven around why not because i'm rich because i'm not getting an indictment i'm not getting pulled over i know the games these people play you you're not getting me for nothing i funded my own campaign i don't want your money I'm deep in the community with the people. Stay the fuck over there because I know what the game is. D.L. Hughley came on my show and he said,

when he got off there, he said, be careful. You know they're going to try to get your indictment. How do they think that they would get me for an indictment when these rappers are rapping all this and think they're not going to get one? But you think that your political opposition in Stockton would be willing to use dirty tricks like that? These people who already tried it. They've went to six years.

In my campaign, the only thing they can really use against me, Okay, his show he talks about sex. Who gives a fuck? Nobody cares about that. Oh, he hangs with, uh, he, blue face came up. Most, he interviews blue face. Blueface and Chrison and the EBKs and the Haiti babies. They're talking to your children every day.

Your kids are on TikTok seeing what is Blueface. When does Blueface come home? July 3rd is in everybody's calendar. Oh, really? It's in mind. July 3rd, bro. People know. People whack.

So as I interview whack, everybody from my home. Oh my God. We got to get whacked. They actually call me. We need to bring Wack to Stockton because of what he represents, not from just where he's been, because he's been where they've been, but also he's mastered the business that they all want to be a part of. And so now I'm looking at it like, you know what? I'm loving this whole discovery of the fact that politicians, so my op, the stuff they've used against me is not going to work.

It's not going to work because guess what? Every day they try to put up a new video of my campaign or my email or not my email, but my campaign or my or, or an interview I've done, somebody gets killed in the community. And you know what I do? Go write to Facebook and say, another 10-year-old shot in the car, a 16-year-old murder going to the store, another 16-year-old. Oh, somebody's mother just got killed. It's literally happened almost everything.

What could you actually do that would make a difference in terms of the current state of affairs with all these random people getting killed? I'm already doing it. The first thing is, again, crime is not just because people wake up and want to go kill people. If I get a piece of meat and throw it on the ground and have two starving dogs into the room, they're going to kill each other for that meat. That's what they're doing in my community. Why is there more liquor stores and smoke shops in my hood and there's no healthy grocery store?

Why can't you go to a clinic in South Stock? You've got to go all the way out north. Why? Because they put everything on the good side of town. When I know the most rich part of our city comes from South Stock. But if I'm a guy who runs Whole Foods and I see that there's... What is Whole Foods in Stockton? No, I'm saying like if I run a chain of healthy grocery stores

and there's money to be made by opening one up in a bad neighborhood, then I would probably want to do it, right? Like, if they aren't opening, it's probably because it doesn't make any sense and they don't think they can turn a profit, right? Well, if you wake up every day and everything around you tells you that nothing makes sense, then you believe you start to buy into that shit.

There is a strategic oppression happening in my city, and most cities of color who look like where I come from, there's no reason why somebody like me who grew up, when I say Durport, not even Durport, lived in a two-bedroom, cockroach infested apartment with a drug-addicted single mother who was a prostitute. And in spite of all that, foster care, shootings, all this and that molested, I still made it out. So you can't tell me that there's not rich soil in that hood.

But you've conditioned people to believe, just go out north and get food. Just go out north to the clinic. Why is that acceptable? The shit that happens in Stockton, if it happened in L.A. They burn this motherfucker up. How are you going to incentivize, you know, healthy grocery stores to want to open up in those areas? And then he was about the grocery stores. It's like how he went to that park with the pool was empty and the dead.

dogs, right? It's about bringing that side. Just the community has all overall back up. So it's someplace a person might want to go. I brought Tiffany Haddish in. We flew in. She saw the spot. I found the guy who owns the open land. I brought

in recently a guy named Mark Faw said that the governor appointed who's managed a $6.3 billion fund in the state that they have to allocate by November. We had a whole system meeting with the county office, the county, the city. We met with CBOs, a whole bunch of communities. leaders about 40 people in the room to talk about how we actually put plans together.

Tiffany's commit I'm on the board of diaspora groceries where she's building one in South LA. We talked about the second site being in Stockton. We found the location. And so we're having real conversations about it. So again, it's not performative where we have the idea that we could do it because I truly believe anything I want,

I can do it. I've done it. So like anybody I have any relationship I wanted, I've manifested it. And the things that I haven't gotten is because I really feel like God be like, nah, that ain't for you. We're going to get something else. No, because for sure, like, at this point of my life, when I do go to, you know, lower income areas, it can be kind of shocking of like, oh, it's like fried chicken and Chinese food are like the two fucking food options. It's a sad state of affairs.

I just wonder, like, when you say like, oh, there's all these liquor stores and smoke shops, it's like, I believe for sure that if I was in the business of opening liquor stores, I could probably open a profitable liquor store in the hood in Stockton. How do you convince a Whole Foods franchisee to open up there? Not a Whole Foods because Whole Foods doesn't cater condiments for black color people. They do it for white people. Okay. Diaspora groceries, what Tiffany is building is actually about black farmers, black ingredients, things that help enrich the community that look like us. So that's number one.

But also teaching like cooking classes and all those different things. She has a great concept and now we're talking to people with the money. You know, the one thing I will say is that I went back and when it really started getting hot, was when I said, I'm shutting down this liquor store. I'm shutting down every smoke shop near a school. Any smoke shop liquor store within a two-mile radius of a school is going away. I've said that. But what's happening as a result of the kids going to the smoke shops?

They shouldn't be allowed in there anyway, right? Of course. Because they're dealing drugs out the smoke shops. They just did a whole raid the other day because I've been putting the police department and the city under pressure about all of these different shootings and robberies have been happening at this one location. They went and cleaned it up the other day. But it's going to get right back.

There's no consistent plan. Again, alleviating crime is not just going to lock everybody up because I remember when my brothers got locked up, they did their time, got out, went right back to the streets. You got to provide opportunity. You got to be able to go and partner with them. So back to your original question, like, what is the plan?

It ain't just sitting with the DA and the police because they don't have the plan. It's going deep into the community and figuring out how we work together. Now, those that choose not to, I'm sorry, but not sorry. You're probably going to get fucked up because I'm not going to put my name on something and say that I really want to see change.

that so my niece and nephew can live in a community where they don't have to think about getting shot like I did or all my friends did. It's crazy me and all my brother sit around. We all been shot except for one. Like, oh, you got shot twice, yeah, or you got shot once, you got shot twice, and I got shot three times. I mean, that's not a conversation

we should be having, but it's the one that's happening right now in our community. And my she's just, you know, her name is Kimberly Warmsley, she's just absent. She don't go to nothing. She's not out there doing the work, and this woman is a social worker. So I just feel like, you know, Again, it's a huge sacrifice.

I'm grateful to people like WAC. I'm grateful to people like Rihanna. I'm grateful to people like Cardi who actually call and say, hey, what can I do to help? Wack called me like, what can I do to help? That gave me energy at a time when I was going home, like, getting attacked. Like, why are you back? You're an outsider from some of the establishment where it was like, yo, I'm coming back with resources. Oh, I'm coming back with, oh, I'm having these workshops for hundreds of kids.

Now people are like, yo, why we ain't had this? So now I'm inoculate them with, why haven't you had it? All these people been here. Devil's advocate. Yeah. Your homosexuality is potentially a liability given the racial breakdown. Hold on. I got this.

Well, because traditionally you think the primarily, I'm not saying my opinion, whack, you're dumbass. I'm saying what the assumption would be. You are homosexual too. When I say devil's advocate, what do you think I'm saying, you dumb ass? Bisexual. Are you bisexual? No. He bisexual.

Well, I know you're bisexual. team. But see, look, this is who you're sitting next to. No, no, no, no. He is a homophore. No, he's not a homophobic. And he's zesty. Now, my, all my followers know he's not a homophobic. But here's the deal, right? Speaking of homophobia, let's back up. The one thing they try

to do in my campaign was I did a, I did a forum and the guy goes, I don't know what he's going to do to fix crime. His boyfriend's a Crip. I'm not dating a Crip. I talk sometimes on my show about you know, the people that I'm talking to and I named one of them

Crip Bay. I thought it was funny. People took that and ran with it. Reminding me how powerful my voice is cool. I'm single. I'm talking to somebody now, but I'm not. That's bad. You know, like, Crip Bay? Crip Bay. It was funny. It was funny.

That's what he tried to get Blueface to change his name to when he started managing him. It was funny. But you know why respect about Wacking Blueface, though? Like, my sexuality should never be a topic with anybody I'm not fucking. Because unless I'm fucking you, unless you have some, like, deep thought about me fucking you. Why are you worried about? I don't walk around and say I'm fucking this one. I don't post nobody I'm dating. That is a private

part of my life that I choose to keep that way only because it just doesn't enrich anything. It's just who I love. When I love somebody enough to share with the world then I will. But then I know sharing something with the world. You know because you share with the world. You invite people in your business. I don't want people in that part of my business

because I do have triggers. And as much as I'm buttoned up and as much as I do what I do every day, there are times where you can pull a trigger. and I don't want my triggers to be pulled because I am going to protect me and my family. Now they did try it during the campaign. You know, they attacked my family.

I had never seen no shit where like, you know, politicians, they do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, they were attacking my cousins, people who are, they attacked my family in a way that I had never seen. But thank God my family, you know, they're rolling with me. They're in my campaign, but they were getting attacked. They tried to do the crib bay thing. They posted a picture of me, kissing somebody.

But, you know, it's a different world right now. younger people are not worried about who date and who and whatever. So, you know, I'd rather have the person from the community in office that's... He means the gay community. That's trying to make a change than a straight person who don't give a f-right. It's all about what that individual, that person, that person, what can they do? What are their plans? That's what it comes down to.

Jason, what's your plan? Then they ask the young lady, same thing. If he's outrunning her on what it is that he wants to do and what he's actually doing, what does the rest have to do with it? And honestly, who I'm dating doesn't matter. Who I'm talking to now is not going to be out there feeding the homeless with me. You know, this is not a Barack and Michelle story. This is Jason Lee.

This is my community. You know, it's not even a topic. But at the same time, the person I'm talking to has been to Stockton, has met people. My family knows them. But it's, again, nobody back home that matters to me is talking about that. The people that don't

matter to me are the people that I'm running. I'm running against, just to kind of put up perspective, I'm running against an entire establishment of people who've been there in the community for decades who've had the hold on the political power and they're losing it. I beat out... Drain the swamp. I paused. I beat out five

people in my district badly. How does he pauses me? because he knows you're overly gay. Drain the Swamp was a Donald Trump's slogan meant to say that he was going to clear out the established bureaucracy from Washington. But he's also clearing out democracy. But here's the deal, right?

I am meeting with Republicans. This is a nonpartisan race. Republican women have found, they come up to me and say, hey, man, you know, I'm a Republican. I said, don't apologize for that because there's conservative views that I have. There's definitely liberal views.

And I believe in democracy, but I also believe that people are fucking tired of this ping pong political game that we're all in. People just want to have a real good lived experience

and the shit comes with a price to pin on what side you want. I'm talking to everybody. I'm doing Zuma with the Filipino ladies. I'm out on Cinco de Mayo dancing with the Latinos.

I'm going to be a June team with my brothers. I'm over here with the I advocated for the city to raise the pride flag. They've never done it during pride. They raised it.

I'm fighting with the mayor right now about providing writing translation for the Latinos because they refused so I told them I'm going to go out there and tell everybody you don't like Mexicans. You know, uh,

wait, translation on what? Like to go to City Hall and talk to the government or to understand shit, there's nobody translating for people. They don't know what you're saying. And it's a community where 45% of the community is Latino. How are they going to vote? How are they going to vote?

How are they going to know what's going on? It's strategic oppression. We had a serial killer there. He was out killing more Latinos than anything. And there's nobody, first of all, they try to hide it. Then when they got,

caught, they was all on CNN and everything, not even translating to the community that was being targeted. How many people with the serial killer kill? It was all in Stockton? I want to say like 18. Really? I think it was a large 8 or 18. I remember there was an 8. I don't remember the full number. I might have to Google.

They wasn't communicating it to the Hispanics. Really? They reported in English. Because this is an invisible backbone of the city that they want to keep that way. Why would you want to educate 45% of the city on what the fuck you're doing wrong so they can get registered to vote or learn how to get registered vote

or go get their kids registered vote so they can vote your ass out. They're praying, P-R-E-Y-I-N-G, praying on the disillusion of rights and the complacency and apathy that these voters have.

I'm back saying, hold on a minute. Oh, we're going to do pedals for peace? Let me see if NL-E Chappo can pull up. Oh, wait, we're going to do what? I'm calling every relationship I can that can actually be the creative, to pull them into my messaging, and it's working. The church community tried me and said,

I wasn't welcome, guess what I did? Flew Leandro from Atlanta, walked in the MLK event, not telling him she was there, gave her the mic, she blew the house down and walked out. That's what we're doing. But what do you think it says that on YouTube, there are so many people who are clearly infatuated myself,

at least a little bit, too, with what's going on in the streets out there. It's like kind of like the problem the Chicago had 10 years ago or whatever, of like, you know, people are more interested in the gangs and the crime in Stockton than almost anything else. I think there's people infatuated with pedophilia. I think people should check their infatuations.

It's all about who you're talking to. I think people should really understand the, and I say this from the heart, right? I think people should really understand the impact that that infatuation brings. When I talk to kids and they talk to me about a rapper, it's like, can you fucking read? Talk to me about can you read? Because that rapper ain't going to write your resume for you. That rapper is not going to get you a fucking job. But you can't hold it against people that they're fans of this music.

I can hold it. We all play a part in it to some degree. So we have to just check our own involvement. For me, I've brought in my reporting at Hollywood Unlocked. I will talk about the shit in a way that I never talked about it before. I try to lay it all out there. But ultimately, like, yeah, if I'm interviewing a rapper, if my infatuation with that rapper is the details of the music and how'd you kill him and who'd you kill him and why'd you kill him and,

where are you going to kill somebody else, that's different than, who are you? I interviewed Charleston White recently. I didn't want to talk about all the shit that he does on internet because he already did that. I saw an image of him one day talking some real shit

and I was like, I got to get to the heart of that. And what my people are interested in is who the heart of the people are. The people back home right now and talking about your interview on my show because like we got into some real shit. You know,

it's not that that other shit's not real because that is a real thing too, right? But then it goes back into the whole shit. But Jason, You got to remember I come from what they're going through. Yeah, yeah. So they're looking at me saying, wait, he comes from that.

He went through what he went through because of that. And then this is what he's doing today. So, yeah, I get it. But it doesn't mean that you don't get pulled back into it because you still go, you still be into some shit sometimes. You stand on what you believe in. It does, being a productive part of your community and caring about people doesn't mean that you can't have a bad day

or you can't check somebody because I'm still going to be me. I'm just being much more aware now of how I'm using my platform and who I'm talking to, but I still go there sometime. Question. Why did you stop working with Kanye? Well, I was very public about that. You know, I am pro-Black Lives Matter, and that doesn't mean that I don't like white people

or any other people. I just feel like our lives have not mattered enough. And so I believe in Black Lives Matter. I don't believe saying that Hitler is a hero or people, Putin is a hero because clearly if you look at history, they're not. And I loved Ye enough to not be a yes man. I'm not nobody's yes man. When Wack introduced me to Kanye, it wasn't because he thought I was going to go over there

and roll over and do whatever Kanye wanted. Kanye, see, he probably won't say it, but I'm going to say it. One day Kanye wanted to put out these posters of Pete Davidson has a... I help stop that shit. Did you ever talk about this? I've never talked about it, but it didn't happen because of him. And when it came to me, I reinforced it can't happen. Why?

He did say something like that at one point, didn't you? No, but he said, you know, you had a whole operation. No, no, you ain't understand. It was a huge. I mean, you're really asking for a lawsuit if you say that somebody has AIDS who demonstrably does not have AIDS, right? He's being sued. He's not worth it. It was, it was a whole operation.

It was like 100 of the billboard cars, billboards, 500 people walking around. See, so Wack ain't going to come right out and put that. That's a hell of a way to react to somebody fucking your ex-wife. But my point, well, no, no, no. Pete Davidson wasn't just fucking his ex-wife. He was taking pictures in bed with her, sending pictures in her bed saying, I'm in bed, fucking your wife.

He was writing around on his golf cards, Kanye's kids on his lap, tattooing their names. Performatively fucking his ex-wife. It was a death wish, and he's lucky the only concept that Ye could come up with was that. Now, Wack's not going to throw his business out there,

but Wack stopped that. And so that's the grace that he doesn't get credit for. That's the grace that I won't get credit for. But the thing about it is I love Kanye. How much credit can you really give someone for, you know, toning down somebody's insanity like that? You chose to work with someone who's capable of this insane behavior, right? Not only that I stop it, right?

But upon me stopping it, I reinforce it. Jason, you're going to get this call. Yeah. This can't happen. It's a whole lot of shit I'll stop. Why did you do it, though? You're standing on business for Pete. Davidson? Or are you just looking out for Kanye's best interest?

One, that wasn't, that didn't make sense for him to do legally, financially. Right. And three, I was like, yo, bro, the more you, if you show it's fucking with you, he's going to keep going. I say, it's going to phase out. What does that even say about his inner circle that that idea was even in the ether? Like, if I brought an idea like that up, my fucking team, there's multiple people that would be like, Adam, come on. I think, I think, I think, that's what we did. I think every man needs to stand on his own.

He made that decision. His inner team, as you call it, actually gave him the right direction not to. He didn't. He ended up putting it in the song with the game where we went to the video set and he cut off his head. He made it into art. He made it a little figure.

That even went viral. But you know what? Here's a deal. Yay is in many ways such a cultural icon that we're still talking about him today, even in the midst of this cancellation for the 15th time. I left because I just fundamentally was not aligned with him anymore. And I didn't have the influence in the situation where you're going to go out there and act.

And people think I'm behind it. Because again, head of media and you're online blowing up the internet all day. People started to believe that that was something that I was a part of. Now, do I understand the frustration with Pete Davis? And hell yeah. Because I look at it as just any man whose child is sitting on another man's lap and name is now tattooed on their neck, rolling around with them in a house that you built that you can't get access to.

And then saying I'm in bed with your wife. I mean, he said that to Kanye after Kanye was texting him a bunch of crazy shit, right? He responded with the selfie with her. No, no, no, no, no. It started with it. He didn't start it with it. No, he started the shit.

You wasn't, you didn't see the messages that was coming straight the gaze phone. That's a right. So that, and Jayce, he was a whole lot of other shit. that time is like we were placed in his world for a reason Wack putting me there

was to help I know the media landscape in and out I know how to operate I know who pushed the buttons how to push it I know how it goes I know all the players that was to help him and I think when he was listening it was when he decided that he wanted to listen to the Candace Owens or the Milos and all that other shit

that was his decision so I decided to leave but what I love about him is he called me and he said look, if you feel that you're not on the same page of me and you want to leave, I understand. It was a real conversation, respectful conversation, and that he let me leave, I still made all the money he committed, everything he committed, he did.

So, you know, I didn't have no issue with it. And when I tell you, I put him there, I called over the farm, and we was at Chalice, and you were just opening up your office studio. And I set that up. I said, you know what, we're going to Craigs tonight, pull up, right? So we went

to Craigs. I'm sitting on the side of Kanye. We're in their back room, the table. Jason walks in. I said, there goes Jason right there. Jason, come here. I got up out my seat because I'm sitting on the side of Yeh. Jason, you sit here. I went to the opposite end. I stayed about five more minutes, made sure they was engaging, and I disappeared. And that's how it started. Because you can't, when you putting people in position, he tell you, I don't get what fuck about it. If I'm putting you in position, I'm going to put you in position. I'm going to get out the way. I want you to develop your own relationship with this person because if my relationship goes sour, at least I have a

relationship there. And they built, they did a whole lot of things. I'll tell you where I pissed them off though. I never said this. I did piss him off. Okay, so when I took the role, we did a whole agreement, of course, and all that because I was like, yo, you got all these people running around here working for you without compensation putting in there. I ain't do it. I'm a business if you want me to do whatever I'm going to do it. So he did that. He handled all the business. But what he didn't want to do is Ye never wants to put out to the press who's moving stuff

behind the scenes because he wants it all out to be him. And I said, no, no, in order for me to have the influence over the brand's partnerships, because what I really wanted to get to was all these brands who were using this black man to make billions of dollars but weren't pouring anything back into his community.

Met with Adidas. How much money to kind of make you out three billion? How much is in the marketing budget? Well, we don't really have a marketing budget. So you left the team around the time that all those brands stopped with them. Oh, I left before that. I left right before that. You saw the writing on the wall.

My point is, is that when Ye didn't want to put out, we had a contract with the title and all that, right? Somebody in the team who was trying to figure out how to get me out because I had so much influence over him, leaked what my role is. So it started coming out like, oh, Jason is involved with his publicists. So I put out, we put out what the press release was on what it was, And we had then now the direct relationship with the brands.

Then what started happening is all the brands started bringing in people to get next to Yeh, to talk him out of having his team involved with his deals. And it was an interesting thing, but he was upset that we had cleaned it up because now it built an accountability for him to lean on the right people. And ultimately he did. But no, I left because, you know, all life matters. Oh, the Putin, the not. Nazi shit. That shit just was a distraction.

You ever kick with Nick Fuentes over there? Nick Fuentes. Who was that? A little like Nazi buddy. Oh, no. No, no. Those are those, I don't know that's like that. They kind of came around out. What about, are you team, yes, Jules, or team Milo when it comes to the Kanye operation? I'm not team neither.

You don't think, you don't support either? No, I mean, I think, you know, yes, Jules. Here's the deal. The culture has to stop leaning on the Yes, Jules, and the Michael Rubens for validating shit. Like, there's this desire for white validation that's happening right now. If he's pushing diapers that are the best quality diapers to our community, why is it that you'll find Travis Scott over there bumping and grinding with Michael Rubin at an all-white party, but you won't see him pushing shit that's important for our communities.

These motherfucking rappers nowadays have just sold their souls. You mean little baby? Whoever. They're all the same to me. The last time I saw. little baby and Travis Scott was at a Michael Rubin party. And you know what? Travis Scott turned to me and said,

man, we need you to save us, man. This is when I was working with you. I need, we need you to save us out here, man. How the fuck can I save you when y'all don't pull up?

Y'all motherfuck. Y'all motherfuck is running anything that doesn't look like you. Well, except for that festival, all those people die. And then the white people wanted to cancel you. And it was black people to help bring you back. You know,

I've said this to this. That's a fact. These motherfuckers are the new, the new slave that, yeah, I think, talked about, are a lot of these rappers who are an artist in the industry who are sucked into this ecosystem of got a tap dance for your money, for your food, you got to dance for your dish. I don't respect those people.

And I think, yay didn't. I think his frustration came out differently than a mine would or his would. It's that he came out in the very different. From my perspective, a little baby or Travis Scott, like, they don't really need to deal with white people to do business at all. would think that their fascination with something like those white parties is really kind of a lark. Like this is a fun flirtation with high society to them. They definitely. So I find it kind of strange that people villainize it so much.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's like a once in a blue moon type thing for these types of dudes, right? They definitely need to do business with those type of people. But what he's saying is, is you can go in those situations. And then when it gets rocky and rough, you run back to your people for support. but then you may not support your people when they have the same situations as those white people.

He does a lot of a lot of brunches and dinners and awards show. Award shows, right? My talk show. So if he was doing them, the names you're mentioning, right? People lining up, we're there.

When he calls on people, it's a headache. What you got for me. I'm busy. I can only be there 30 minutes, So that's what he's saying. So, like, I'll use Tiger as an example. Tiger and Travis, A.E. and them got in that fight over there. It can.

So we put a story up. I get a mess from Tiger. And now I'm in the three with E, A, E, and Tyga. And I've known AE for probably 12 years. What are they going to say when everybody was reporting on this show? My point is, is that why are we talking when conflict is happening and you're not pulling up when it ain't? But what they want you to take the article down? No, I think it's just providing clarity.

But my point is that you're teaching people how to treat you by how you engage. If you only show up when I write a story you don't like, why aren't you showing up when we want to honor you? You know, but you'll run over there that Michael Rubin party that bit. Because what? Because the billionaire going to pay you to be there? I mean, if that's, I remember back in the day when, when niggas were hired to go and entertain white folks

when we couldn't eat in the same restaurants or sit in the same seats or be, like that, it's the new slave shit. And look, they don't want to believe that they are that. But what are you? You're slave to the same. the brands that's endorsing you. You're a slave to the person.

I mean, it's the new thing. It's so I had a call today with Robert Smith. You know what that is? No. Robert Smith is the richest black man in the country. He's the richest black billionaire in the country, Robert Smith from Vista Capital. All Robert ever talks to me about is how do we get celebrities to amplify consciousness? How do we push the culture?

How do we maintain the culture? How do we, and, you know, he paid off all those students' debt at that college. that he spoke to. He's out here really doing the work. If he had a white party, would they all pull up in? Probably not. Why? I ask him why. That's why I don't have a lot of respect for a lot of these rappers. Because they talk in that shit, but where are you where the people who need you? I'm in the hood talking to parents and tents with their kids and shit, but, you know,

how many of them are going back and giving back to their community? I remember back in the day when Shug was, as much as they said what he was saying in the streets, he was pulling up to that store parking lot with flatbeds. of toys, food, and I mean, he was, I mean, it was more stuff than we could even get, and all his artists had to get out there and hand it out. Where is all that shit now? I don't know where that shit is anymore.

Maybe it's happening out of it. I don't know. And you know it. It's everybody for themselves. It is. That's the only way to describe it. I went to a Michael Rubin party. It's fun.

It is fun. It is. It sounds like a great party from, it is. I went one time, and I, I've had my experience. Okay. I'm good. Really? There was nothing in it for what?

It was like some Diddy type shit. Diddy white parties weren't the ditty. I'm afraid to even. We didn't talk about the white party. You're afraid to acknowledge you've been to the ditty parties. No, I'm not afraid of, I've been to the ditty white parties. I've been to ditty's birthday parties. I wasn't at ditty after dark.

People act like I'm crazy when I say, yeah, I would have gone to the ditty party. Because number one, up until a couple months ago, it did not have this reputation that there was all this seedy stuff happened. No, no, no, no. It always had the reputation. Really? That's a fact. What? Really?

You don't know this. I mean, I just have never heard that. And your homosexuality radar is much more sensitive than most people. What do you mean homosexuality? You're like really concerned with making sure that you're not accidentally pulling up on a gay or gender. Who's talking about homosexual? He's trying to mix in allegations that did he have that. Homosexuality.

Right. Zestiness. Whatever you want to tell it. No. No. No. It's just the party. Right.

It gets to a certain time at his point. at his parties where if you showed up there at 11 o'clock by 3 o'clock, you probably not remembering how you showed up at 11 o'clock. When you go to a big fancy celebrity party to the limited

extent that I've done this, I would assume the freak-offs are taking place in, you know, the master bedroom in a different nook of this. Like the part where all everybody else is... You see no master bedroom. The last time I saw you was at French's house. I know. And I assume there were some freak-offs taking place, but it was

it was out of the line of sight of the average person at the party. But see, when you go to Diddy's party, well, let me say this. Maybe there's different axes. I'm in the backyard. I don't go in the house. Wait, what have you always heard me say?

What? We don't leave the backyard. Yeah, I'm saying the backyard. We all go in the house. But up until a couple months ago, if Diddy had come up to me and said, hey, we got to going back. I'm going to show you something.

Well, I said, let's go, Pov, yeah. And then what if it had showed you something? In all fairness, in all fairness, Let me say that. I'd have to take a look. In all fairness. Oh, wow. All fairness.

Not if there's any like unwilling participants or anything, but you know, if he said, hey, check this out. I'm going to say, oh, shit. In all fairness, I have been in the house during the, when the parties have been happening, like not in the back rooms or like that. And I've not seen anything crazy. Right. I've actually, I actually, I can't find it on my Snapchat, but I do have a video where Cassie and everybody just dancing and having a great time. I don't know what was going on in that house. First of all, in Diddy's defense.

I've never seen or heard of anybody being manipulated or forced to do shit if you pulled up you pulled up for your reasons now I had a friend who told me years ago

like three years ago we were literally having dinner in New York and he goes hey man because he used to be a Sean John model I'm like yo so you know we were talking about modeling the model industry

and we used to do this thing where we would get together he's straight I'm gay we would get together with a small group of us, and we would just eat and just gossip. It really is what it was. And he said,

man, I've seen the craziest shit in this game, bro. He goes, one time I was chilling, and I got a call that Puff wanted me to come over. This is all allegedly. He says three years ago. Wanted me to come over,

pull up, I pulled up, and, yo, he wanted me to, like, play with Cassie's, seeing this, that,

this, this, this, this, and he would sit there and film it, and he was playing with itself. And in my mind, you know what I said? said, you're a clout chasing, lying, manipulative.

Oh my God, I can't trust. But literally, not hanging out with him. Believe all victims. No, I literally, no. Not all, but. But was he a victim? No, no, he was consenting. So, that's what I'm saying to say this point.

Yeah, somebody, if Bob calls me, I want you to fight this hot-ass chick. Okay. This is all allegedly. But at the time when he said it, I really thought he was just crazy being a cloud chaser. That's his thing. And then, and then full circle, I had to go. I had to call him.

I had to, I went back to New York for someone. up on him and I say, I'm sorry. Because what he said, listen, can I ask you a question? This is real shit. Because that's the exact shit from her lawsuit. Adam, this is, I mean, actually, both of y'all, I think y'all

like, everybody has their thing, whatever it is. If Diddy's thing is to get willing participants to fuck his girl or whoever it may be while he watches, that's his thing. You can have your

personal opinion about it. There's other people out there that that's their thing. You have your thing, right? You do porn. That's your thing, right? So I don't look at Diddy, like, I don't say he's a weirdo, right? Well, it's all the other stuff that makes him a weirdo, right? I will say

the overly abusive shit. Yeah, the abusive stuff, yeah. I don't got nothing to say about whatever the fuck he was doing with willing participants. I don't go. Long as there of other age, And Willie. I don't care.

Right? That's his thing. And not being like force-fed hard drugs. Exactly. No, no, no, no. Because some people come there and say, where's the drugs? We're going to get licked and we're going to kick this shit off, right? But when it comes to the abuse, right?

When it comes to the abuse, that shit that our song was kind of crazy. And I think the fact that the one thing where I think he lost me was, because at first I was very much saying, like, yo, I have never seen it because I just haven't. And I'm not saying that I don't believe victims because I do my, I might have had sisters who've been a victim or survivor of domestic violence, right? But let's keep it real. Everybody out here saying something happened to him has not had something happened to him. Right.

I think right now, especially like the minute somebody sees a gate open or a window open, man, that dog piling starts happening. And the new, this is the new game. I'm going to find an attorney who's willing to work with me to do this. I'm going to find a journalist who's going to. going to write the story. I'm going to file everything I want to say in a lawsuit and then once it's filed, we all

pull it up and then we all put it out. Whether it's true or not, you can't sue the victim, the person because they didn't say it, the TMZ put it out, the No Jumper put out, the Hollywood and Lock put it out. But they have free press. They have a responsibility to provide an

insight on what's happening. So that's the new bag. You can't get the person who filed the complaint. Now they want a million dollars. You pay them, they settle and release statements and it's all confidential. They got the bag. The attorney got the bag. You got f***.

And we all ate it and kept pushing it on social media. This is crazy. And I didn't know what was happening until it happened to Tiffany Haddish. That's when I say, yo, I got on with that reporter. I got on with that lawyer. I filmed my conversation with him. I put a whack. And then I put that shit out.

Wait, okay. What was this about? Oh, in terms of the old comedy videos that she did with Ari Spears, right. Now, you've been on the internet for. years you've been on there for years. You don't remember funny or die? Oh, I do. The craziest, dumbest, reckless shit that them folks have put up. We live in a world now where everybody's sensitive. It was a distasteful, stupid-ass video that she even tried to stop. But it came out, and even though she was helping the family as friends or whatever behind the scenes, because she wouldn't

do more for them, they said, like, yeah, look, why are you putting these people in a comedy special and not me? Like, if you don't help me, then I'm, I got to go get the bag. She told me this before he even came out. Her and Ari Spears did some comedy videos for this site back in the day just for people who were wondering and at least in a couple of them the theme of it was like child sexual shit. They were making jokes associated

with that. She dropped her kid off to the babysitter and the babysitter was taking advantage of the kid. Probably not a skit that almost anybody would attempt at this point in time but at that time it was genuinely thought to be funny I think on the internet but didn't they not put it out at the time or did they and then

it got deleted later on? You like to put it out and when she saw the final cut, she said, I didn't see that, not. We're not putting that out. So they stopped it from, she got him to stop her, but then it came back out. But if you read the lawsuit or the articles that were posted about the lawsuit, you would have thought that Ari Spears and Tiffany

had us were abusing children together. Exactly, because social media has no guard rolls. And then on top of it, the crazy part is the mother of the kid was dropping the kid off to set, to do the scenes. And then on top of it, Tiffany's whole thing and everybody that knows Tiffany and I hope she don't get mad that I'm bringing this up. And it's

probably the most disappointing thing I've seen happen in the industry because I know her heart. She's a beautiful human being. She loves everybody. And she really is. She survived a lot of things. She tried to protect the story from spreading because of the kid. Because now we see the kid. Now we find the kids.

You know, the internet, once you say something, now people want to dig up who's the kid. She was thinking about the kid's mental health. You know, and so when I put the video out catching this attorney and the Rolling Stone person who's the same one writing about Ditty, same one. Same one writing about TI. Same one writing about Nikki Minaj's husband. It's the same person. When you start seeing it, same group, same attorney and journalist. When you start seeing it, you're like, hold on.

So when I saw it, I recorded it and I put it out. And I went hard on his ass because I felt like he had used me to go after Nikki's husband. And I felt like I had gotten pulled into it. Once I saw what it was, I'm like, yeah, man, fuck that. So the first attorney and the first thing to come out was this story and that attorney. So at first I was like, yo, I don't know what this puff shit is about because every time. I've been around. I ain't seen the weird shit. I've seen Beyonce over there.

I've seen Jay over there. I've seen Oz over there. It's not like, bro, his whole party is that. People that want to participate. His own white party was at Prince's house. This is how, like, deep the shit going. People don't want to participate, participate. If the parties were that crazy, like, if there was really fucked up shit happening

in front of everybody, then we all would have known about this 10 years ago. You know? I mean. There's a reason why it's, like, slowly crept out over the years is because he was trying to keep his nasty shit secret. But everybody got their nasty shit. That's what I'm saying. Like that's his thing.

And if the extent of the nastiness was doing a bunch of drugs and fucking a bunch of girls and maybe having some dudes involved, then whatever. But I mean, obviously, a very different narrative has been paying it. I would probably not feel so strongly about it if I hadn't seen the interviews with the two different heads of security. Gene Deal and the other guy who Vlad's interviewing right now. I know Gene. He worked for Kay Slay for 250 a day. You went from working with Puffy to work for case slave. for 250. This is a fact. He would pick up

our models and shit. Straight Stun magazine error. Gene is mad because Puffy wouldn't pay for his friend's funeral. I don't know. Okay. What he got mad? The shit he says, let's be real. Let's fucking be real. You got security, you got security, right?

When you go in there to negotiate a fucking deal, right? Is your security sitting up the goddamn table with you, or is he outside the door? He does. The shit he talks about all the big publishing deal you negotiate. Bro, you're not in that room. You're outside the room.

So a lot of shit he says and like social media, anybody can say it, Adam, you know, if you want to wake up tomorrow and say some outlandy shit about me, right? It's going to be believed before it's not. And the closer you are to the person people are going to believe it even more. Like when you were walking down the street with that boy and everybody said you were gay,

I knew that shit was fake. When my team said me that, I was like, man, I ain't fuck away Adam. No, no, don't post that. That's bullshit. Then when you did it, you know, you're this, that, whatever. I was watching it all play up, but I was watching the internet eat it up.

Like, he knew he was gay. But that's why he did it. I'm surprised I didn't send to you directly. But guess what? Well, because you wanted me to be in on the bullshit. I'm like, man. Yeah, I sent it to act, and then he just proceeded to ignore it

and act as if I didn't send it to it. And he acted as if he wasn't really sure if it was real or not. We ignored it, but then because you were playing along so well, I was like, just put the shit up. And fuck him, Adam wants to be gay today. Just let him be gay. But the point of what you show people is, how stupid the internet is.

I know it because I'm in that shit. I can go and say anything right now and people will believe it. The queen is dead. Nah, she was dead. I'm just saying, you know. You can say I got it wrong. That actually came from someplace.

But that had China call, it, India calling, Japan calling. The whole world fucking called. And it's because of who I built myself up. Well, they really turned you into a villain with that one. announced the queen was dead. And they acted like,

He was Satan himself. And the whole month, listen, everybody was on it. But she wasn't really reported dead for like two weeks or something, right? Well, we haven't even seen. We didn't see her after I reported it. She died two or three months later, allegedly. But nobody ever seen her. Yeah.

You've never seen her. I wasn't looking for her. But the point, the point, I barely know what she looks like. The point about the internet was scary, right? Here's the scariest part if you go back to it. Like, Puff got kids, right? Quincy and Christian love Kim Porter. you still hanging around your dad who killed your mom?

You really think he killed her? That's what the internet is saying. That's what I'm saying, right? That's what he's concerned. Yeah, that's security guard. You just brought up, said that he was beating on her. You know, they got one, the old man died. The other dude did the autopsy.

No, the people doing the autopsy. He died. One came back, he was this. One came back he was at. Now, Kit Cuddy did say it blew up his car, but I don't know. Yeah, no, that one's like very solid. I highly doubt Kit Cuddy lying about that. He probably did that.

Did he do? You probably did that. Yeah, but who hasn't wanted to blow up their ops car? I said this recently on Cam Newton's show. Did he threaten me too? And it wasn't in like some share where I had to call whack or somebody. It was like, he was drunk and I was in his house taking a picture. And he walked up like, yo, I'm going to let you know. You know, right when I got my revolt deal, he was kind of like on some like,

I'm going to let you know right now. I ain't one of these niggas out here. You know, basically he threatened me like. No, that's just him talking. But that's what, do you know how you're drunk uncle? You're like, man, shut up. Now, I didn't know he was blowing up cars, beating people up in hotels. I mean, maybe he was going to do it.

You know, T.D. Jax was in the other room. Wasn't getting fucked, though. That's the thing they keep playing with the bishop. Oh, shit. Hold on. Hold on. This is no jump. No, because they try.

I don't even know that is. Wait, who the fuck just happened? The internet. Because you slid that in there. Pause. No, I don't pause now. The internet. My slid that in there means what the fucking means?

No, but the internet. You sled T.D. Jets you in the other room. The internet. He was outside. American pastor and motivational speaker. What? Hold on. He's a bitch.

What is a bitch. What is he doing? in the room. He wasn't in the room. I'm just using this as humor because they tried to say the bishop and him had a sexual relationship. He did not. That I know it. I heard they was rubbing like watermelon on his head. Like some crazy shit. I don't think

black people should eat watermelon in public anyway. Why not? I don't eat fried chicken and watermelon in public. I just don't. Hold on. When I was eating chicken, it had been a minute. Why'd you stop? I don't eat beef, chicken. I just eat fish.

I start seeing too much crazy shit. fucking worms and shit and I saw some shit I saw some shit where they was like showing me to meet I got up I went to the store I picked up three out of five packs

had the brown spots they were talking about they said that's not blood that's fucking die the cows been there four or five months before you eat it and it was just like overweight then I went in I got a thing of pork and poured the Pepsi

on it the Coke and you can see the fucking little worms whatever I'm watching fucking Instagram. Isn't it why you cook it to get rid all the worms? Man, fuck you. See, that's some savage cana night shit from the caucus bounce.

So if you saw some worms and some shit, you would just say I'm just gonna go cook it. That's what you're cooking for, right? No. Oh, you're a cave. Like, when I'm making bacon in the morning, all right, let me tell you, I go from working out in my garage

to making eggs and bacon. So my hands are still dirty. And I take the bacon out of the fucking packet by hand before I wash my hands and put it on the pan. And my logic is, This hot ass pan will kill the dirt that presumably was on my fingers. Why would you do that?

You're a filthy mother future. Because otherwise I have to wash my hands, pick up the bacon, put it on the pan, then immediately wash my hands again. I don't want to wash my hands twice and around. Like me, you put the little soap dispenser at every one of your sink. Oh yeah, yeah, I got a hell of soap. It's just a second. What's the problem?

I got soap shoes. But why not just wash your hands? So you intentionally use dirty hands? Well, it's not like I'm intentionally getting my hands dirty, but I'm not cleaning. But you're telling yourself you're going to cook it off. It's going to me that makes sense. That makes sense. Think about how much other shit this bacon has been through. So if you saw...

It's the inside of a pig's stomach. If you saw some meat with little worms in it, you would just say I'm just going to fry it up. I like to do little gifts from my immune system throughout the day. You don't believe that. Just eat a booger. Just power up your immune system. You don't believe that.

You don't believe that. Adam, he's just going to fly right now. You know, I've been saying he reminds me of somebody. Who? He looks like. Jeffrey Dahmer. Y'all in favor? I could kill.

Why do you have a 40 bottle there? Have you ever drank a 40? That was Krip Mack's last 40. They say you let Krip Mac go to jail? I saw that online. Is Krip Mac in jail? That was actually a lie spread by the Chinese Communist Party. That's not a lot.

Specifically, China Mac. Yeah. Okay, can I just say this? Hey, China Mac. I literally have learned every hood nigger in the world because of you. And you two. China Mac, how are you? I don't want to know you.

Just stay over there. Crip Mac, China Mac. Crip Mac, China Mac. Many Macs. This shit y'all got is so entertaining. I don't come nowhere near Burbank anymore because of your building. Because it's like the hood highway. Like, who are all these people?

We run a pretty tight ship here. Where do you find them? Like, where do you find it? The gang members? Yes. Yeah, where you find it? The internet mostly. So do you reach out to them?

if I feel like they have some potential sure sometimes they reach out to me it's crazy I'm always on the hunt for many ones you and act this is not a world that I want to be in because I really won't know how to handle the real conflict because like you'll threaten you and you just like oh he don't take it serious yeah I take it serious I know the concept

and I hope and pray he never has a reason to take it serious I want them to take some shit serious it's been a few situations I don't say nothing because I got a lot of respect for it. And you know, I just stop shit. It's like literally.

Every time Wax's phone, every time I phone, hold on, Don Lemon's calling. You want to say how to you. Yo, you know how to play. John. Don't say nothing crazy. I'm in an interview right now.

Do you know Adam 22? Say hi to Adam 22 and whack. Hey, Adam 22. What up? That was my guy from COVID was on. This is Don Lemon. That was my guy right here. His show, Wack, you got to go on.

Hit Don's show. Yo, Don, Don, Don. doesn't interview black people. Yes, he does. I want to watch the full send interview that Don Lemon did. I haven't seen it yet, though. Hey, I'm going to interview black people. Well, I'm an urban black guy.

Don, I'm on his show. Me and, me and Don, Don, did you go to the White House today? I was just calling you to tell you about it. Okay, I'll call you back. I'll call you back when it's just me and you. But you have to leave it. Tell him, he's watching the wrong damn person.

No, no, Don, don't. I'm a connection with Don. Listen, Don, Dan. Listen, you are my guy doing COVID. Only while. you watched you only, but I just felt like you only interview certain types of Black people. Don is, Don, let me tell you, Don, I need that clip from our last show at the end where we talked about Andy Cohen because that might, I want to put that out right now. Don is, Don is the homie.

Hell yeah. Like D.L. Hugley homie? Yes. I need, I need to get you. Oh, Don, I could be wrong. I'm going to connect you, Don. I got you. Let's make it out.

I'll call you when I leave. All right, you need that. I need that clip so I can post that. That clip was hilarious. What was it saying about Andy Cohen? Okay. All right. No, I said Andy Cohen be at the bar trying to get the niggas I want.

Oh, shit. However, I'm in a relationship. I mean, I'm in a relationship on my way. I'm on the way. I'm out the streets. The streets are dangerous right now. I don't want to date no more. I don't want to be left alone.

You like, don't know. He could. So let me ask you a question, Jason. You don't have to give me any names. Okay. But if I was to look at the list of so-called heterosexual men

that tried to make a pass at Jason Lee would I be familiar with any other? No, no, no. The celebrities won't do it. They won't do it

because they're afraid of me. They're afraid. I wouldn't know any of them. Nah, great. And if they've made passes, I intentionally don't even, I don't even,

when it comes to celebrities, I don't even go there. You don't want the closeted guys. I don't want the, Loud and proud. Well, I won't say that I haven't dated somebody that's not out, but like, I don't want to date celebrities because I'm going to write about you. It's going to happen. Yeah.

It's going to write about it, but I'll write about you. You would have issues with Don Lemon, though. He's a little over-woke for your taste, I think. Don is hilarious. You have to see the video because he'd be trying to be buttoned up and then he brings somebody like me or somebody like you on. It ain't gonna, it's gonna be different. Let me ask you a question. How do you feel about Ray J saying that he enjoyed the,

I don't call it, what they call it, the Shannon Sharp, because I'm not, that shit is weird. The Shannon Sharp Show. You don't like saying Shayshay? No, I'm not saying why. She Shaysay is a female I knew that my home boy, Ed Jr. used to date. See? She had freckles on her face.

Shea, that was who she was. Now, now, all of my viewers watching right now, when I saw the Ray went over and did his show, I said, look, I ain't anybody worried about she by Shay-Shay. And it went viral. People were like, oh, my God, I'm not out in him. I'm just, I called him Shibai Shai-Shay-K because Shays-Shay, I know Shays-Shay's in the hood and ain't no man.

It's a female. But you do think Shannon Sharper's gay? I didn't say that. No, no, definitely. I think he. I did not say that. No, I think, okay. I like, when you were holding the photo of him because you were bending the photo to make it look like his waistless.

It made him look gay or in the photo. I'm not going to say he's gay, but I think he's just, and it's weird because he comes from playing football. I think he's feminine. What that mean? First of all, a zest monster. First of all, first of all, first of all, you see it stands. First of all, there are wide receivers who look like that, who are receiving it widely. I don't want nobody to say because they're a football player.

I don't want them to say because they're a football player because they're a soccer player, because they're soccer. I don't care about none of that. That's real. I know some gang members. I was just about to say there are gangers. Look, I ain't even going to say nobody's name, but now there wasn't, I don't even if it was a gangster, but he's in the streets. And he kind of like pressed up on me recently. And I was like, man, listen, I don't have a conversation for you, not even, I'm flattered.

I don't even want to talk to you about that. Yeah, no. That's crazy. Yeah, nah, uh-uh. Because I don't even want the politicking. I'm actively searching for gay gang members. Why? To come up here?

Or the date. Matter of fact, you try to ask one of them if they were attracted to me. Really? Yeah, you did. I saw the kid, I don't know. You know, it's a bunch of them. Sounds like something I would say. They out there.

Cheeseburger. No, it's a bunch of them. They came out like two years ago. Like, they was all on fucking live. Like, giving it up to it. Our home girl is, are filming us. Like, so they definitely come up in one or two on rappers. Okay.

I got to leave in a little bit, but my last question of importance to you, what is the state of Cardi B's career? A lot of people trying to question her and say that it's over. How? She hasn't put an album out in like in a decade. I don't know. Cardi's only got one album. Let me say this. Because Bia coming for her.

It seems like that fell spectacular. So many layers to this question. Bia can't come apart. Bia took a L. Let me first start by saying that. Bia and I share the same birthday. She's a Leo. Shout to Leo gang. She's a beautiful girl.

She took and currently holds the biggest L I've seen this year so far. Well, Drake's second. because Kendrick murdered that. But Bia started to be for no reason and went to get clout and got clocked. And it's just unfortunate. But that's because you see Cardi at the top.

You don't see a loser and fight with a loser. Like she didn't go out. I'm not even going to say any names because I'm trying to be a better person. She didn't go after certain individuals, right? You know, Lauren Hill, who only put out one solo album, just got acknowledged as being the, what Apple said she has the most listened to album ever or something like that. She got like this thing Ebro gave it to her.

For a female rapper or? Period. Ever. Period. Really? Like, I forgot what she, Lauren Hill and Apple, we got to go with that. But anyway, so I don't want to do this whole one album thing means she's a flop because every song she's got on.

And every song. Every song on that album. Did you know that Adam? That Lauren Hill album? No. Oh, Cardi. Individually went platinum. That's a little bit.

And every song she's gotten on recently with Glorilla, with Meg. It's all been hot in his. charted. So I don't want to say that she's falling off. We're honoring her at our award show, honestly, because she's opened so many doors for all of the women that we talk about now, because, you know, when she came out, it was just one girl, and then she's open

the door for her. Okay, for the record, that album is just Apple Music's top albums. But what I'm saying is... So it's not really based on what I'm saying, out of Apple's whole music library, that one album from that artist with one album was the most... What was it? Just the one that they think is best?

which I feel like the hip hop audience does not agree with that at all. There's like a million albums that are more beloved than that. The hip-hop community would say Lauren Hill is an icon. She would say that. Icon, yes. The album went diamond.

That album better than I'matic. Ooh? No, did he go diamond? It went diamond. Yeah, you can't. I mean, the number is a lot. When diamond. It's like saying,

if I go to the world, she has something. I was like saying country grammar is not one of our top hits. Yeah, no, that's, but that could be justified by like the numbers, right? Yeah, numbers exactly. Although it's hard to judge from something that came out. But in terms of Carton, not her career, no, if she didn't announce her album coming out,

I know she told me last time we talked that she's getting ready to announce it. No, I'm watching. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you think, because I'm telling people, this is not at Cardi, a lot of these artists are getting on because of the gimmick or propaganda around them, not because of the music, sexy red, 28,000. She got great music. That's it. Man, recently. We all love it.

That was like a little mixtape thing. Because guess what? My first recollection of sexy red was some bra that got two STDs. She is so much more than that. No, this is what I heard. And then it was like, okay, she's a rapper, so I get it. But 28,000.

Well, let me say that I didn't know the latest record. 28,000. What I will say about sexy red, though, see, you can't just put out music. What does the rollout look like? The rollout got to be, don't she got to. They didn't have a real rollout for that project. That's why I can't really look at the sales and judge it.

The buzz, which has nothing to do with the music, is going to push the music. You have to roll out the product. Which is why when me and Megan the stand fell out, it wasn't because she didn't like me and I didn't like her. I criticized her rolling her album out with Marie Claire. That ain't hip-hop. That ain't where the culture is. And it flopped. So now she's on this great tour.

I'm proud of her and I'm happy for and I want her to keep winning. But these people have to stop. lying on the gimmicks. Yo, rollout. I remember when Buster runs. I don't remember this years ago, when I first moved to L.A., Buster had a listening session in the Valley where he invited everybody to his listening party, but he got on stage and he wrapped,

he performed every song in the album. Yo, it was something that pre- the social media world that we live in now, we all posting on my space and everything, because it was this euphoric feeling that made us fall in love with the album, and we embrace it and kept in. Nowadays, they just go twerk at a club, put it on social media, and you think, well, I'm going to go buy

your shit in an economy where I ain't got nothing? When I listen to Bia this Cardi B, it actually like really instilled in me the fact that I love Cardi B. Right. And I hated Bia by the end of that fucking song because it sucked so bad. It was so not convincing. Even just like the look in her eyes, I was like, even you don't believe that this is a bop. So even like Cardi B is someone I don't even know. I always liked her.

Always thought she seemed cool. By the time I got to the end of that song, I was like, this actually raised my opinion of Cardi B, which is, you know, it's not really. really what was intended, so I was impressed. I love that. But what about Meg, Cardi, and Glorilla coming together, and now they're like a real unit. They're proven that these girls can actually get along.

That's nice to see. Well, Cardi's always embraced these women. They've constantly come for her. I stopped even really defending Cardi Online because they made it a, oh, he's just on Cardi's payroll. Cardi B unlocked. No, I really believe in this girl. I love her energy.

In the middle of her rise, she had two children. She got married. She's fucking continue to open doors for women. She jumped on Lotto's songs. She even a Lotto put a plastic bag and around her face almost suffocated her to death as a rollout for that single. I mean, she did bongos. She did, I mean, she could never do enough for women.

Remember, she has her own career. Her job is not to be on every person's music. Running for city council. You can for sure say. No, man. Wait, oh, wait, wait, wait. The shit worked. Yo, man.

What was that? It worked. What? The fucking hair transplant. Oh, it's coming in. Give me a few more months. No, I just put it up and I asked the people. That's what I was doing it.

After I run, when city council, I'm going to win city council. I wanted turkey. Did you go to turkey? Okay. Turkey for what? I'm gonna do the whole thing. I'm shaving the whole thing. I want it to be thicker. Because it does grow back thicker. That shit's gonna be, he's gonna have corn rolls. What the fuck do you? I'm 40, I'm turning 47. This shit gonna fall out at some point. I'm going to do it now? You've never had a hair transplant? Never. Wow. It's pretty good. But I do stem cell. I do all. I do it. You're gonna do it? Yeah, just get it ahead of time. See, I want my hair to be like that. Like it used to be. How much joy did it bring you when you read those leaked text messages and you realize, what Ice Spice's real opinion

in Nicky Minaj is. Wait, what camera? Ice Spice. You know I love you. I damned her not about that, but just in general. I love the fact that this girl came out,

found her own lane. I think she honored Nicky Minaj as a fan the way a fan would in just a pure love. But she didn't know she was dealing with somebody and didn't give a fuck

about none of that. It was just about using her in her own little game. But I love that she shared that with her friend. I didn't like her. a friend putting that shit out. That's why... No, that was corny, yeah.

You can't even text nobody? My friend tried to charge me five grand for any of you. No, she did it. I was like, this is a gift. What are you talking about? Here's the thing, no. It's the delusion. Here goes the thing. And I tell people, people say, you're like,

how do you gauge if somebody's a friend? And I think y'all agree with me. If you have to think about that, they're not your friend. That's your answer. This is my thing. You have to think about it. That's your answer.

I think that, like, Ice Spice kind of plays the fool publicly. She acts like she's like an airhead. But when I read those texts, I'm like, oh, you're way more with it than I actually was giving you credit for. Right. But she didn't, it wasn't even like nasty texting. Yeah, it was just real as fun.

I'm like, oh, you totally understand the game and you're not letting on publicly. That's incredible. And she still hasn't gone out and bashed Nikki. Exactly. She's smart. I think she's smart. I'm waiting to see, you know, there's so much politics in this game, right, in terms of hip-up. I did an interview with, I can't remember it was complex or somebody.

I said female beef is bad for hip hop because it's not like Kendrick and Drake. What Kendrick and Drake did, man, I don't do any walking, Crip walking, this walking, any walking. But when Kendrick dropped that last song, for me, it was like, that's hip hop. That's West Coast. That's hip hop. That's what beef is supposed to be on the music. Then all the white programs started bringing me on.

Do you think that was, do you think that was Kendrick who shot up Drake's house? You think Kendrick went to Canada and shoot up Drake's house? I don't know. These people. But they did what that was hip-hop. They sent shit. Yeah. But from my perspective, a lot of the top female rappers beef all the time.

And when you say, top female rappers, slow down. Slow down. Who's the top female rappers? Well, you know, ranked amongst the top 20, 30, let's say. No, that's just it. It feels like nobody gives a shit. Yeah. People don't really pay that much attention, even when they're making music about each other.

It's kind of weird. They're not distant Lauren Hill. They're not distant Queen Latifah. They're not dissing really even Little Kim anymore. Those are the top. Well, yeah, people pay attention to, like, Cardi and Nikki going out and stuff, but I don't know, like a lot of people are getting in there. So we do it. Cardi B is the marketing plan in everybody's mind when they need to drop an album.

That's real. I don't even want to get into the girls that you're naming because, you know, I have my own opinion. But, you know, when you look at them and you look at, you know, who did Kendrick consult with to go after Drake? Everybody said Drake was the best rapper in the world. and Kendrick went and did what the fuck hip-hop was supposed to do. We knew Drake couldn't out-rab Kendrick. We didn't, but I'm saying with the social media, TikTok and this and this and that, that's why I don't subscribe that.

When they come to hip-hop, who's going to outram KRS-1? But people probably wouldn't have expected that Kendrick, in a beef between Drake and Kendrick, that Kendrick would be able to make a song that was like a hundred times more popular than the other, than the most popularly Drake's song. We thought Drake would be able to make a commercial record. Another back-to-back. Yeah.

Kendrick made it back-to-back. Kendrick made a back-to-back. That is a back-to-back. For sure. Probably bigger than a back-to-back. Let's be real. A minor. That's all I know. People aren't even talking. You know what? What do you think, bro? What do you think this leaves? I think Drake's climb has leveled off. He's still up there. But, you know, Drake been doing this.

You know what I mean? I think it's leveled off. You know, what's crazy, I said, I think I told Wack this or I told someone, I said, the only person that could make this make sense, if Wack and Top Dog figure it out how to pull them together and do it. a double album and a tour. Oh my God. Kendrick doesn't need to do it. He really don't fuck with him. Clearly.

He don't need to do it for what? It's not like you're like, like I don't think there's anyone in the world that could make Kendrick want to fuck with him on a, especially on a personal level or a PR level. Why does he, I mean, I don't know, is it,

is just, he seems like he just has no respect for him. And also like with all the insults that he, he drew at him about his blackness and him like basically appropriate blackness, him getting cool with him would make it like, oh, is that all a joke? But what made Kendrick

song so good to me. It wasn't just all the shots and the tea, this and that. It was when he got to that colonizer part and he really broke down colonization of our culture and used to Drake as it was pain. He went, he took Drake to Atlanta and

straight broke that shit down. He did. It was crazy. I was one of those things where you heard it and then about the fifth or six times you listened to it, you really started to visualize it. And then that's when it got fucked up for. you start to like,

yo, is he? Like, it started to brainwash you. And I think all them people in the line of just his friends. But I will say, I've known Drake since before he was famous and broke. So to watch him be somebody

that can come, be, you know, gone at by a Kendrick is great to watch too. Like, this man started from, literally from the bottom. I remember nothing. So to watch him kind of do his thing, y'all had him in the hood

in L.A. out here. I mean, he's, you know, I don't know. I'm proud of him. But, you know, he had to take that L. I wish that the women in hip-hop could take the ails like that and keep moving. I don't know where beer is right now. She better not be coming up with another car to disc track.

I don't even think we would want it. What would happen? Be it? I mean, beer? She needs to fall back. She need to just, yeah, for real. Yeah, that was not a good look in any possible way, shape, or form. I got a dip.

Got to go put the kid to bed. I appreciate you guys. Jason, all the respect in the world. Thank you. And best of luck. I wish I was a Stockton resident so that I could go vote for you. Stockton loves you. Your name is out there.

Hey, you want to pull up? I'm coming. Let's do it. Yo, you play spades? You play spades? No, but I would love to learn. You play spades? I do, but I'm not good at it.

Tiffany had it. They have Spade Night over there? You and Tiffany. I need you and Tiffany to go to Nick's new show. Okay. It's a spade playing show? It's at Amazon. I just did it today.

For real? You'll love it. Nick Cannon? Yeah. I'm down. Let me down. You definitely need to go. Me and DW flame, we're going to pull up.

We're going to put it together. Nick, we got Adam. TW. We're going to find him Bapwagher. Who is D.W. We got Jason and Tiffany Hattish. I'm sitting on those spades, backyard spades with Nick Hap. Hey, do us a favor.

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