No Jumper - The Adam & Wack Show #96 w/ The Viral Way

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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Welcome back to another episode of the Adam and Wax show, a bonus episode, if you will. And today we have decided to convene with the viral way. Coming straight out of Long Beach. So watch your mouth. We don't want to hear any L.B. slander, buddy. Never L.B. slander. I got comrades over there.

But this is what I first thing I know is about y'all. Y'all keeping the look up, but y'all got some boozy shit going on. What's your name? What's the boozy shit? You see, you start already. Versace glasses. We call them murder ones, but y'all got the Versacee joints. Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? They got the look. The fun of the look. They still got the 80s look. But the boozy shit is on the side of it. Nah, you ain't going to find the looks like that unless you go dig down and get them. Digger, you got to go to the swap me. Nah, it's a new generation.

What nips say fly Cripping? There you go. Keep it that way. I guess they're saying this chair might be better for the squeakiness. I don't know if you want to just switch out. I ain't never heard nobody squeaking like that. Yeah, this chairism has been squeaking a lot. We've got to really try to address that.

Flock O's sudden that motherfucker or what? Oh, he is a bit of a stress test. Yeah, that's fair. Anyway, yeah, I'm glad to have you guys in there. What kind of preconceived notions are you coming in here with about the viral way? Because we wanted to have Brandon in here, but unfortunately, you're shook. No, I'm not sure. I'm just not stupid.

Scared to someone with a martial arts background. And a brain. I don't know what his background is. I just know. that the dudes playing the crafty game. He can get Almighty because Almighty ain't paying attention to what's going on. Brandon know how to go here, go here, there,

and then play victim and caring on your ass, right? So my thing is, I don't mind my motherfucker talking crazy. As long as I can talk crazy back and then if it get crazy, don't go civilian on me. I'm scared of them type of dudes today. Okay, you guys know him better than us. Do you agree with his analysis?

that he thinks that Brandon is trying to destroy no jumper from the inside. They don't got to deal with what we got to deal with. What do you mean? They know him way better than us. No, no, listen to him, talk about them, right? He respects them. Like he, one of y'all, I guess, one of you all in the crypto or do a bunch of shit, he respects what they're doing, right?

Yeah. So when they speak, right, he's going to listen. They don't never got to go through what we got to go through with him. If they don't want to talk about it, they're going to be like, and he's going to kill it. I like how you're acting like you've been to hell and that. It's the truth. Like you guys are real. I don't talk about it.

You've been through everything. They got to run them episodes back because we argue and debate with him more than y'all do. I never, I've always, I've never seen Brandon. I only, I watched him a couple times. And I just like the way he articulates itself. Because I can tell they've been to the joint. They did time. They found the streets.

But they're not dummies. Is that true? You guys have done time? I didn't know that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they're not done. Like, I can't. If you're talking to me with street language, it irritates me.

Changing motherfucking bees and seeds. He just said that he can't fuck with King Pill because when King Pill met him, he did not introduce himself by his gang affiliation. No, he never identified. Nick's signals coming from you. He never identified itself. The nigga was a belly dancer. Okay.

Belly dancer is crazy. Hold on. What's his beef with Brandon? No, I didn't know there was beef. And I thought you were squashed. Brandon threatened a whip his ass. No, he didn't. You never threatened him to.

Brandon, for some reason, I feel. Well, I feel like dude is on a mission to prove itself and get a name for itself by going at people, which is cool. But when I heard the niggins start screaming, he got a knife, he got a knife. At that point, I'd be like, okay, well, let me leave that alone. So somebody pulls a knife on you on a podcast. You're not allowed to announce that the person has a knife. But Brandy can know. And it only seems damning because they've made the whole screen go black.

If they hadn't had done that, everybody would have seen the night. Let me understand why Brady can't. It wouldn't matter that he said it. My son, I raised like Brandon. My son, L7 Square. He likes it to do shit. So Brandon was from a hood. And I don't know the enemy hood of them, which is interesting.

Brandon grew up in somebodyhood, but I don't think Brandon was like gang banging and shit. shit. I think he understands it. He said he was getting bullied on the way home, so he had to. We got a lot of cats that grew up on the block, but they wasn't, they understand. They know who's what, who's doing what. But they're not that. But I get his game. How long have you guys even been close with him? I knew Brandon for like 10 years now.

Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. I've been on it for like 10 years. I met him like since he, well, since we started podcast and I say, so a couple years through bro. Okay. Yeah, because I met him on some, you know, he used to, on his pan African shit real heavy. So, you know, we had like some shit going on in the community. I used to pull up to.

That's really how I met him. Because you knew my baby mama before I knew him. So we kind of had it like always mutuals, but I never was running into him like that. Okay. See, I just learned as much as what y'all did just now. Oh, for us. Because by the time I met him,

he was done with the gang banging shit. Oh, so he was from a same. Yeah, he's from 20s. No, he's from the other side. Huh? Yeah, he's from the same. His daddy is. No, his daddy from the set.

He's from over there. Gotcha. Yeah. But he. So he really gang banged. I don't know the stint of it But you know as a as a young team for sure Probably so

And it's because see this is what I didn't understand right He playing with Almighty right And he know how these young niggas play Especially a dude that he knows He ain't got no win He know all that So I'm sitting there watch him like damn He know what they expect from that

Especially round two Now you didn't told the nigga you fucking do Jiu Jitsu or MM Whatever you do You look like you're about 26280 you a solid dude. This little nigga ain't gonna play fair with you?

I think he has a CCW. Yeah, regardless, y'all, y'all knew what was coming from that. Y'all played for them in the same room. You talk about, I said the same shit. We can only blame Lush and Josh for that. I said the same thing.

I said, bro, I said, first of all, why did y'all even put a dude back in that room? To figure out who was the biggest, baddest one in the room. No, but see, I'm understanding already round two, dude is going to play it different.

So is it worth that? Okay, so this is the thing. They knew that they were going to be in the same room doing a podcast. This is the thing that Almighty changed his number. So we didn't realize that we were texting Almighty's old number telling him about it. So according to Almighty, he found out that morning from looking at Instagram. And his attitude was, well, I'm not going to look like a bitch and not show up to the podcast. So I'm showing up.

So look like a dummy. lose your job. I'd have lost that battle to win the war. The war would have been, we all know your show up to this one so you could continue to show up to your, so he needed the job. But you are Mr. like moves super tactical. Like you, you don't ever put yourself in a situation that you don't want to be in. Some people value their freedom and still want to be able to move around. And, you know, I'm sure, well, I can't say that I'm sure he didn't expect to get into a situation since apparently he brought a weapon. But I mean, I'm sure he thought that he would be able to make it through that situation,

which Brandon is, when Brandon wants to antagonize you. He ain't got no win with Brandon in his little ass room. He's good at it, but the fact that y'all has security, y'all knew what the fuck was going on. We wanted to save them from themselves, which it didn't work. Yeah, so you call security last minute or something? No, we got security on the day the whole time because we wanted to make sure that if anything did happen,

you know, it couldn't go too far. But why even want to risk of that? Because we wanted to bring people together. What are the content. Yeah, it wouldn't have to bring crazy. It went exactly how they wanted it to go. It didn't go exactly how Almighty wanted to go. He got a job.

But it did help with his street rep, right? What street rep? Now he's locked up and he's able to say, I almost stabbed somebody a couple days ago. He's not a street rep. His lack of street rep is what made him do that. Brandon did his research, found out the politics the way he was from, found the video. Look, all everything else was cool is when Brandon poked the bear said, Yeah, like he was in that alley on your back, kicking your feet, begging for help.

That's when they was putting him off. That's what triggered him. I think it was actually a different thing. Bullshit. No, it was that for sure. Every time. No, it was that. That's what triggered him.

Almighty has told us multiple times that that video is not him getting put off the hood. That's him getting put off. No, that's definitely him getting put off. I mean, I don't know. That's why he tells you, like, game member. I don't know. He said that on the podcast before. I don't know.

Yeah, so, you know, but end of the day, brand. for a bad, I will say Almighty kept using the bitch word. Yeah. I wouldn't have, I told him, you shouldn't even did that. You know, mentally, you ain't ready for that. Brandon ready for him. It ain't nothing to do. Who can say to Brandon that Brandon's going to care about.

He's going to keep picking and poking and picking and poking until you crack. You can call Brandon, whatever you want, he's going to say, I don't care. You can call him a bitch. That's cool. As long as you don't put your hands on him. I think that's how Brandon felt at first because keep in mind. No, when he spit on him,

that's when Brandon was on the podcast, when Almighty first pointed at the door and said, let's go outside, let's go run the fade. He had no idea that Brandon is super strong and like mega, like probably extremely difficult to get in a fight with. But if Brandon had got up at that moment and said, all right,

let's go. And I believe that fight only could have gone one way. Look, that would have been a very different path for this whole story. Almighty, there's a difference between a fat, sloppy nigga. Yes. And Almighty definitely thought he was talking to Louis Anderson.

It didn't realize he was talking to somebody to get Bench 500. Yeah. That's a solid big dude. You could tell he can move. That's on Almighty. If Almighty didn't know how to tell what he was dealing with, then that's on him. But you know, Brandon, he won that. And

Brandon don't care. He all give a shit. He hope he never don't come back. Brandon's on his mission. still trash on him on his story like right now. He's a PC. You don't let him get that off. So why you won't sit down with him? Because I know he's he's a gas lighter.

You feel like he's going to get in Yoski? Yeah, you think he's going to win physically and mentally. No, I'm not worrying about that because I'm not almighty. You're scared to sit down with somebody that you know has the upper hand physically and mentally. He don't got the upper hand on me. Well, then why wouldn't you sit down? This is the reason. He would never have the upper hand on me. I understand he's a

very intellectual brother, right? Yeah. I have no problem when somebody's talking about something I don't know nothing about turning into the student. I'm never going to challenge him on some shit that I know I don't know nothing about. I'm going to tell him to educate me. The only time you get into a pickle with him is if you challenge him on some shit that you don't know nothing about as if you do, then he'll eat your ass up.

Yeah. Right? He's a very intellectual brother. I give him that. I don't tell you. He did a great job with that white dude. Mm-hmm. Right?

I salute him on that. But I could be. wrong, I think he's on a mission to gaslight people, put them in a trick bag, and I just what I feel. And I got to go with my gut feeling. So you think he's going to put you in the trick back and then you're not going to be able to deal with it? His position is, I can't do what he can do.

He can store some shit, do some shit, and tell. And it's cool. He's going to laugh about it. Why are we even thinking about any kind of illegal behavior? Because you're going to have to tell to him. Because you're a white dude. But you're going to beat the shit out of him and then he's going to tell? Like if you don't hit him, then what's he going to tell for?

Okay, watch this. It's certain things that you can do or say to him to where you might get that reaction or me or whatever. We all got our little short fuse things, right? And I understand that. See, know your strengths and know your weaknesses, right? I don't mind entertaining my evil. You know how I stay away from entertaining it? I stay away from those things that's called make me.

go to that. So I just feel right now at this point in time that Brandon is a gas slider and I felt like he not going to play it all the way out. But if you know he only keeping the content, what's the problem? Keeping it content is a little different

because some shit ain't content. The difference is, I think he has respect to you. I can say some shit to you that's not content. Yeah, for sure. You get what I'm saying? Everything's not content so in my head if Brandon was a super L7 dude, right,

then I would be like maybe he didn't know. Which you thought he was until like five minutes ago. No, no, no, no. No, I knew he comes from something. Because I can hear his speech, but I know Brandon know what he doing and what he's saying, and I feel like he would do or say some shit that he know I'm supposed to react.

If I don't react, you's a bitch, whack. But then if I do react, I'm going to say something about you laying on your belly. So do you think it's because you're not going to be able to trigger him? because he just don't give a fuck about what you say because you're a gaslighter too. Yeah, I don't open the gaslighter for sure. Put together a dosier of information beforehand. I don't, I don't got none to trigger the nigger about it.

I ain't got no issues with him. I just don't like, he trends that police line shit. What's the police shit? Just saying that somebody had a knife? That's police shit. That's such a stretch. Huh? He didn't call the police.

The police weren't notified in any way. He made an objection. He made an objective statement about something that he was seeing on camera, which is not illegal. It's not illegal to have a knife. You got the most police watch platform. What is the thing that he did that is police adjacent? Oh, you got a knife. You got a knife.

If he said, oh, he's got a gun with a switch on it. If he said he got a poisee. All right, now we're talking. It's not illegal to have a goddamn knife in your pocket, unless it's a specific type of knife. Okay, now watch this. Let's stay three months from now, Almighty and the mall stab a motherfucker. I guarantee you that clip gonna be in this paperwork.

Yeah, but I mean, that makes him a snitch. No, what up? He pulled it out on camera and the guy who said an accurate description of what was going on in front of him is the snitch, not the person who did it on camera. You agree with it, right?

With what? What he did? No, I don't care. Yeah, why not. Do you agree with him screaming that out? Especially in the heat of the moment. Yeah, I can't blame for that. That's what I'm saying. I'm never going to agree with it.

you. You're a civilian L7 white dude who believe in calling the police. You call the police too, right? No. What? Although you've advised me to in the past. What? Advise you do what? I know you're going to call the police. I don't have to. If I whip your ass on camera, you absolutely making a report. That's why I've already told myself, the day you got to whip his ass, no. Whop his ass good. No, no. Because you go in jail. If you just whoop my ass, you call the police. No, well, I would I call the police over a fair ass beating. Why fire a remote instead of like suspending him?

That's what I said. Because y'all created the situation. That's what I'm. Even by hiring security, you're like, okay, it's a chance. This can get physical. So when it gets physical, it's like you can't get mad because this is the purpose. But it's like the same reason that we put brick and loose canons on camera together. If people have had issues and the people want to see that.

That's a lot. And you saw how that one worked out. Them niggas have been running a plate a whole time. You know it. Them? No, breaking loose. It was a fake play the whole time. Was it?

Hey, man. Why do you think that? Adam be playing crazy. He know that. Hey, bro. That's why Adam was on the flight. He was gone. He already knew what time it was.

It was a fake. I don't believe that at all. Okay. Okay. So you're telling me. They were trying to get him up out of here. Brigg baby, who looks at Big U as his big homie, as Unk. Nobody does it.

The guy who's coming. coming around, accusing Big U of being complicit in Nipsey's murder, you're telling me that was all just a play. And soon as they get off the thing, they're going to make money together. Yeah, it was a play. No, they put it together because I can't say. But I can show you them, Nick, let me tell you something. One thing about whack.

I got to fuck the whack team. What? Right? You got a fuck the whack team? Yeah, I got the whack team and why are you fucking them? That they own FaceTime with, the homies is sending me screenshots. of because they think that I don't know this dude, right? This is a thing I've been knowing.

Rickett, they don't have no idea I'd know this script, but they are all on the FaceTime negotiating what they're going to do next. Okay, I'm going to tell whack this. We're going to spin this. You do that. We do this. It was a play the whole time. It was too much said.

The same person who claimed that when Luce made the diss song about you, that that was all a play as well. What? This song. Who? Loose. Well, that was a play. Oh, come on.

That was when he was still in Big U's little... Dubby, that was a play coming out my mouth, dick wit. That was so... That was way before you even met him. Me saying that that was a play... What is a dick with? Look, you stupid. Me saying that that was a play was totally a lie.

The play was what I was saying. I'm milking this nigga for $75,000 for a run, right? So I got to make it look like to the world. Where would he have $75,000 from? Nick, I just got him. I half a million. He ain't broke? How do you got a half a million?

What, you did you do that all the motherfucker getting some money? If you ever told me of a way that you were going to get me half a million, I would probably be very excited by it. I just got him a half a million. I probably wouldn't have forgot about it. It's a fact. Dude ain't broke. He ain't broke.

He got some money. I've never witnessed any evidence that Luce Cannon was making money from anything. Like what? Because what? Because you didn't, you don't see what he do? No, I'm just saying. I've never seen, I have no idea what kind of hustles he had going on. That's the way it's supposed to be.

But somehow you made him a half a million dollars and you won't tell us how. I mean, that's a, that's as a recent. That was just April, March. And you won't tell us why? Why would I? Because, I don't know, I feel like it would really help illuminate this conversation. Everybody's not them, Adam. But what I'm telling you is, dude ain't broke.

The nigger dropped a hundred on this. attorney what you mean i'm saying he's got a nice house big you ain't got attorney he do he must be spending money on charis mills i don't know i mean what you mean like you don't seem broke moving around driving from l-a to Vegas over and over and over every week to do podcast i'll do that that's just like going to the liquor store it's still expensive habit we don't get a fuck about that okay anyway so the next item in whack you have brandon sitting up here with you well i would love to but unfortunately my co-host is running scared not about running and scared, it's like, I know when the...

Listen, if I know that you up to something and, like, you really try to use a motherfucker for your own personal gain, I'm not going to fuck with you. The people I like to fuck with, I just organically fuck with him. Is he really up to something, or is he up here adapting to the content that he believes what goes on up here? But I don't

see, you got to remember, I don't do this new shit, whatever they do. I don't know. I do one show a week. We do our shit. I don't know. what them niggas being there doing and screaming about half of them be high, zonked out their mind and shit. Loose. Loose. Loose.

You don't know what the fuck. He'd be here one minute. So I don't, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what the diggas got going on. I believe Brandon is a great addition because he's the only one like him. Right? He's, you know, he's the, he's the articulately. I don't really know if he can fit in with them dudes.

I think he felt like he dumbing himself down. in there with them dudes. I mean, I think he's just, he's stepping it up. He's introducing a new element. I think he realizes that he could have value on something like the news because of the fact that he obviously has a different skill set than everybody else. But are they going to allow him to show his skill set? I mean, it seems like it.

It seems like, you know, Lush was eager to debate him. When you say they, who are you talking about? I mean, Flacco is the one who bottom of a lot. I don't think it's the dudes. That's the problem. I think it's the audience. Flacco brought him around. Lush loves seemingly to argue with him on camera.

I mean, I like him, obviously. I brought him on camera over and over. Aunt Hefe seems like he's fine with him. Munchy seems like he's fine with him. See, I don't know who's on this, so let me get right. So Anne Hefe is on the news? No, he's just been on the No Jumper show for the last few weeks. Yeah, I've seen some weird shit you said about me then.

Like what? Something about you. Oh, yeah. You did some bitch shit. No, I'm saying that you didn't let him talk. No, yeah, check this out. First of all, I think he was a little mad that I brought him up here first. No.

I didn't know he was trying to get him. You was trying to get him prior to. I didn't know it. He's a local. That's fun. No, they told me you had been trying to get a hold of him. You couldn't. Right?

How could I not have? I literally had not asked him to do a podcast yet. No, no. You had told me. They told me you wanted him up here. I got him up here because him and 600 run together. I have no feeling of exclusivity over him. What I'm saying is,

is we had our conversation, right? Motherfucker, you don't tell me how to dictate how I'm running my table. If I want to talk, I'm going to talk. I shared with my feelings that you were over-talking him and not letting him talk. I wasn't over-talking. Let me tell you why I wasn't over-talking him, because he had a whole lot to say about a nigga he didn't know. So I'm on your ass.

So either you keep up, nigga, and talk back or you don't. You had a whole lot to say about clout-ch-crow. He was sland-in-mon-a-mon-cote. This is why I can respect him about. I ain't never said anything. He was slandering Monster Cody talking about him being a crackhead. And you didn't really even give Ant a chance to defend him. Slow down.

Paul Rue, is that a lie? Well, I mean, apparently not, but. Fuck is you talking about. A slander's based upon a way. A lie. So what the fuck you're talking about? Okay, but just because he smokes crack at one point in his life does not mean that he is a crackhead and that that's the end opening a shed of his life.

He did what? Smokes crack. At one point in his life? Sure. You want to open up his cat of words would be? Sure. Because there's a whole lot I didn't say. Okay.

Where they find him at? I don't know. Yeah, do your math. Before you go to running. He died from drugs? Where they find him at? I just thought it would have been nice. As long as you were smearing the name.

Don't mean? You don't want to be nice if you gave him a little bit of room to speak. Hey, nigga, I'm a G, nigga. It's a whole lot. And no, I didn't say out of respect to him. Okay. A whole lot of shit. Did you just volunteer that info or that was like in the midst of conversation?

No, it was in the midst of a conversation. and Gillian Wallow. That was like the one thing that aunt wanted to kind of press whack about during that episode was, I don't appreciate how you spoke about Monster Cody. He wanted out of the conversation.

In the press, but he wanted to have the conversation. That's when Anne said. I told him, I said, that, listen, Gillian Wallow said that Monster Cody was that guy when it came to Cripping over all of them, right? I said, look, he wrote a book that turned

you niggas out. It was a weird turnout because y'all used the book to turn blood. I don't know how it came in y'all. Nah, Trey, Gangsta Bluffs. That's your weird thing. That's your thing. You're talking about that. You're talking about that.

You're trying to say, right? This is real shit. So I don't know how they did that. But they tell me the book turned them out. I told him, listen, I can't get that to him because he never transitioned. You get what I'm saying? He never transitioned. I said, now Big You.

But this was the context of you saying that Big You did transition, which you're kind of eating those words right now, right? No, I'm not. Big you, the one with an active murder. I tell you why. If you look at Big U's RICO, every nigga in the RICO is a way. They're a Crip, right? Right?

So this is what I'm learning. When Big U was around us with us, it was a table of business. Period. It seemed to me like when he did whatever he did, he did right with the people he felt he could trust, and he did it with his own people. So the Big U, I don't know that Big U and that RICO.

I don't know him. The big U, I know him. it was all business because we was building him as a business man and he transitioned right the nigger was doing this he was doing that he was doing this he was did the football lead he did that with Snoop he's part of the Snoop lead

he was doing the um the backpack giveaways the graffiti removal the fucking continuation schools and we plugging him with the industry shit we helped him get to deal with Nip we did all that but what are the terms that you were comparing Monster Cody the big U. Monster Cody's the biggest gangster

No who transatl You're going to, nigga, if your ass and did this banging on the street, went to the pit of tentry, did your time, and then got back out and went back to gangbanging. And you 20, 30, 40, 50 years old and ain't got no business, no nothing. You just waiting to catch a fucking parole violation. But if the question is who did the better transition, then why are you bringing up him smoking crack? If anything, that proves that he was able to come up from something even worse. Big, you never had to kick that.

Are you all right? What? You can't compare a dude that went and did all these years. But you created respectfully his company in prison. Yeah, but if you're speaking on Wally and Gilly saying that they looked at him in a certain way, he still was legendary in the streets when it came to being a gang. I don't give a fuck about that. That's what we're talking about.

So that's why he asked. What was the thing? You said they got turned out by his book, but his book was only talking about street activities. Yeah, but if we're talking about the overall. And we're talking about the overall. of shit. I said, look, bro, I can't give him an overall because he never trans. I, nigga, I transitioned. That's a fact. I did everything you want to talk about we was doing. Now, for the last 20-some years, if I think you're doing something wrong, you can't come around.

I feel like if we were to rewind the tape and go back to that Gillian Wallow episode that the conversation you guys were having was about who was the biggest gangster, not who made the best transition. I think you're moving the goalpost now. I'm going to be real. The Terminazi gangster don't come from the petty street shit. It comes from the motherfuckers that was in these suit and ties

really conducting business. Now, if they want to take the word and minimize it and water it down and say, gangster mean a tattoo on your face, how many niggas you didn't shot and how much time you did, that's on you. To me, when you say gangster, I'm going off these

Godfather movies and these movies I watch, I'm thinking about King Vaughn. Nah, what the fuck are you talking about? I'm just saying. I think that, like, everything you do after that is you leaving the streets. That's you not being a gangster anymore. No. So when you said when you was coming up, you wanted to be like the mom.

No, when I was coming up, I understood to be a gangster, me to control business. No, but people always try to do this bullshit. They always try to say, you know what's gangster? Gangster is taking care of your kids and having a nice house. That's a different thing. No, it's not. That is a different thing. Not from where we come from.

Gangster can't just have no meaning. Nick, our daddy's forced to... You can say it's the new gangster, but... No, ain't a new gangster. But that's just the, like you said, the transition from it. But when you was in the streets, nobody was growing up and thinking about the mob. We've seen the movies, but...

Bull shit. What no mob out here for us? No, but what we was thinking about, and this is why me and my crew in the early 90s said, fuck the crack. That get a nigga $5, $450 rock, and we transitioned to white-collar criminals, and we was buying real estate and flipping,

like my nigga, our whole perception of what that was was to get to a point when we could own businesses, on real estate, so how could we get it? We got profiles, okay, well, niggis was doing this and doing that, and when we started figuring out we can buy that, flip that, sell that, refinanced that, and bring it back real, then we knew we was on some gangster shit. Where did we get it from?

Watching them Godfather, I study Godfather. I still study it today. It's a good movie. This is real shit. Because guess what? His whole goal was to do what? Become legal. I took $4 million of music money.

Right? So his doctor... I took four million dollars of music money and went and created a motherfucker diaper company. Why? Because in my mind, this is my way of getting the fuck away from all of it. Even the music, because the music still keep you in the love. lane of some possible stupidity.

Just real shit. So you're saying if somebody was involved in the streets, but they didn't do as much as, say, a Monster Cody, but they transitioned and became a more successful businessman. You were ranked their gangster over Monster Cody? That's a fact. Because if you still doing it,

if you, you ever read the book Visions for Black Men? No, I ain't read that one. Y'all check it. I was 110-page book by Naomi Akbar. This is the book that really made me check myself. Because if you You would have told me, you would have told me what was in this book, I got offended by it. It breaks down the transition for maleness, the boyhood, the manhood, right?

Your genitals is your maleness. When you learn no right from wrong at the age of four, five, six, or whatever, now you're in boyhood. How many niggas you know that's 35 still sleeping in the same room and same bed that they slept in at 12? nigga, you still practicing boy shit. You still practicing boy shit. Right? And I see some motherfuckers

who come from the killer and the dope dealing the drive-by shoe and the penitentiary to yards, all the shit we have been through and then transition and now the niggas a realtor

or now he got some gas stations a nigga, yes, I'm gonna rate his gangster way more than the same nigga over here talking about I just took a deal for 12. all day. That's it, but that's a small exception

of percentage of what you put in. Most of the niggas that came, especially from your era, is either dead, smoked out in jail, and none of them niggas was teaching us, at least niggas in my era, of outside of crime and stuff like that.

So to say everybody, to say everybody was transitioning and trying to be like the mob. Who said everybody was transitioning? I know, but you're saying like, for not to respect Monster Cody, when his, for him, he was fucked up, like you said,

to maybe that got to a point of the, well, I want to just say PTSD, doing all that jail time and everything else. It's hard for niggas to even come back from prison right now with all this technology and still transition. Okay.

You're proving my point. But I'm not going to look at him and say because you got more money that his gangster is more. And it's about more money. It's about what you're doing. The small percentage, right? You said it's a small percentage, right? Right.

How many motherfuckers you hear screaming? I'm gangster, gangster, but yet they're not doing what that small percentage is doing. them are the ones I'm acknowledged. I'm not going to acknowledge these niggas that all they take is a 38 tattoos on your face, bustle the nigga, get high, and nigger hollering some shit out and go

to jail. Everybody doing that. But that small percentage, who then did that on that level, in a treacherous way, and was able to find a way with a GED, a no fucking high school diploma, right, to create

businesses, create a legal a legal lane to where now I can look at your kids and they falling in that lane, I'm going to respect a gangster. Gangsta ain't to me putting in work. I feel like we do this weird thing where we just use the word gangster to mean a lot of different things at the same time because, okay, if we were to go to the Jordan Downs right now and find some dude who hangs out there and he busts his gun and he sells drugs and whatever, he's a gangster.

By the definition of what a gangster is, he's in a game, he's doing a gang. He's doing gangster shit. Now, if that guy, okay, if that guy moved out. I may call him a soldier. Listen, you're talking over me because you know I'm right. If he moves out and he purchases a couple of different McDonald's franchises and he works at them and he manages them from day to day and he makes a great living for himself and he has a family, etc. That's gangster based on what you're saying.

That's gangster. I think you should use a different word because it seems to me that the original thing he was doing was the gangster thing. Three different places, two, three different states. It's called being a successful businessman. Why call it gangster? That's a stupid use of the word gangster. You want me to show you the George Washington Bridge? No.

No, I don't care about that. Or you want me to show you to resort my backyard in California. But why call that gangster when it's not illegal? Because where we come from, when we come from, right? At one point in time, I was taught putting in work, killing the enemy, doing some gangster shit. And I agree. That is stupid.

That's a waste of your life. the real gangsters where the term come from owned shit, controlled shit. Everybody claiming their hood and niggas don't even own the real estate on their block. This is why they can come through and say, if you don't live in the project's trespassing, we're going to tear this motherfucker down

and we're going to gentify it, right? The real gangster can say, you're not going to tear nothing down and own this. I'm just saying we shouldn't be using, we shouldn't use the same word to describe a guy who's basically committing horrible acts upon his own community with them becoming a successful businessman.

If you use the same word to describe both things, then the word means nothing. Listen, majority people that come from that mob and that gangster shit, they grew up doing gangster shit. And then they created an organization with some structure and they start doing real business shit, right?

You should know that you look like, no, I didn't go pick up a different word when they're the ones created the word. They didn't create it. Now, you're right by a technical... You're talking about the godfather. Listen.

There's an earlier user of it. They was here before us. Right. They was doing their shit before us. Organized crimes existed forever. So when we heard gangster, right, if they're already saying it and we don't fucking exist and we start adapting to saying it, we can't say it came from us. But we just took it and said we're going to water it down and being gangsters defined by these actions.

If Al Capone had opened a bunch of McDonald's and went and lived a clean life and didn't have to worry about the There's no way that he would have been going around saying, hell yeah, I got 10 McDonald's. I'm gangster. That's facts. Why? Because he's not a fucking retard. Wack is right by technicality,

but Wallow and Gilly was talking strictly the parameters of gangbanging. They can't. That's all they were talking about. They can't give neither one of them are gangbangers. Right, but when they're reading his book, like everybody else out of state, they're just reading them gang banging. They're not looking at that way.

Wallow and do all that time. Niggin' for robbery. Nigee, you don't got to be in the street to rob a nigga. It's got to be broke. Needs a money. So opening a successful business and not breaking the law is gangster, but robbing people is not gangster. No, what I'm trying to tell you is coming up,

what we perceive that to be is not really what it was. When you ask yourself, the real gangsters of our world is the motherfucking government. For sure. Again, the word has no meaning if we're going to apply it to people who are working in government. See, I don't think he's understanding. What else you just saying, that's why I said like now, Because we can say smart is the new gangster and shit like that.

It's always been that. Yeah, it has, but it ain't, you wouldn't. Well, I can say I wouldn't taught that. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only difference. I do understand it now. Yes, you should I was taught that. No, I wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't. The shit you went through? Now, you sure you want to have this conversation? We can have this conversation. I'll tell you why you was taught that. You know who taught you that? Your actions, your turmoil, you going through what you went through. You taking them seven steps from that table to that window,

thinking about the shit you did to be in here for all these calendars, right? That taught you what the fuck not to do. I said I wasn't taught though. No, you talked. Life taught me. Nigga, I can not talk myself for shit. That's what I'm saying.

You mean like an older homie passing down the knowledge to me. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, nobody, you wouldn't, you wouldn't give me that game. That's my point. It's a very small percentage. Nigger, one of the most gangsters niggins in our cities and this city right here. Rush. Fuck, no. Let's just do some gangster shit under your team.

One of the most. That's true. One of the most ganges dudes in this city. Y'all got less crashing out of, he's tripping up. Some real shit is Mike Conception. Who's that? And he in a wheelchair. A lot of good gangsters are, yeah.

No, no, what I'm saying is, if you understood the makeup of Mike Conception, where he come from, all the shit he didn't did, he lost his legs, all this shit. But what he continued to do? Niggas is his own resorts out the country, right? I remember one day coming down, um, Superav of the Bush. And I'm like, that's a big ass house. So I pulled in to get a car from the people building it. I'm like, who y'all building this house for?

God damn, and it was Mike's house. Right? So when I first get out to joint, I said, damn, boy, just think of Mike on some gangster shit. I need to get here. Right? So even though my first time I brought it was already built. My second one, I watched me built. My third one, I watched them build it because I was one of the goals of mine, right?

I'm sorry if some niggas didn't get in high. and tattoos and doing time and killing your enemy as gangster. That's cool. I went through that era. With me, right? That nigga Birdman's a gangster. Straight up. That nigga got a 90-10 deal.

He'd have sold over a billion records. He's still thugging. He talks his ebonics, but he's legal. He's a legal entity. He'd have made a lot of the black people. Would he still be considered a gangster If he didn't use to run... But he used to run a heroin empire

and he got a ton of people killed. He did what? He used to what? Run a heroin empire. And then he started running what? He took that money and started selling shit out the trunk, right? To a point to where it got them people's attention and they came at him with some money, he turned it down

till he took $40 million up front with an $80-20 deal, right? And never looked back, right? Now that's gangster. It really seems like the gangster part was when he was running the heroin empire. No, because the heroin empire is minimized. Right. No, I agree. It's good that you made a pass up. The longevity and him being free and being successful is on that side. I just think we need a different word.

No, it's no different. You're a white boy. You can't change our motherfucking, what we do and what we're saying. If we're telling you, what's gangster is owner your real estate. What gangster is staying out of jail. It seems like you have a hard time conceptualizing a world in which gangster doesn't mean the same thing as just good. We got to change. These are exactly the same words. I was told. Killing the nigger was gangster.

Let me ask you. I did that. No, it's not. It's not good, but it is gangster. Nah, we got to change. It's something that people are going to change the narrative is what you're saying.

Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. He ain't going to go back on that. That's exactly what he's saying. No, we got, no, we got to teach him what it really is. You know what I'm saying? Because if we tell our people what's smart to do, they ain't going to hear that.

They're not going to hear that. Right? I remember telling them a problem. I remember telling the group of little niggas, when I pulled up, they're like, whack, whack, man, listen, man, like, nigga, look out for us. I say, yo, who got their report

call? They ever go home and get their report card, bring it back? Boom. Two of the little niggas came back. I looked out for them. The rest of them, I'm like, I ain't fucking with y'all. You ain't got a report card. You got all fails. Nick, here go a couple hundred. Six months later, I came back. They was lined up. All them had a report card.

If the big homie say it's cool to smoke shirm when you little, what niggis do? Oh, that's gangster. Right? If the big homie start telling the little homie, hey, it's cool to have a job. It's cool to do this. We got to change the narrative on what it is.

You can't say it's cool to do that if you're not doing it. Then that's where the disconnect comes from. You out here running the streets and I walk outside and see you doing that, but you're telling me to go to get a job. Niggins is not paying attention to that. Yeah, but that's why I don't run the streets. Yeah, I ain't saying you do now. At what point did you transition then?

You had to go through everything first before you transition. Don't make them tell the truck driving stories. Please don't tell the truck driver's story. Please don't tell the truck driver's story. I know you know why you're saying. I'm going to walk out for 10 minutes. I'm going to come back and you're still not going to be done the story. You don't want me to tell it.

Because you told it four times on here already. Because this is something that don't reach your people. No, because I already heard it. Now, listen, he asked him when the last time I ran the streets. No truck driver's story. At what age did you wake up and say I need to transition from this? Because like you said, if you felt like you did everything under the sun already. From the streets or just every day?

From the streets to get to the point where you at now. At what age did you wake up? You said you was in YA. I didn't did it all. I didn't do it everything. Exactly. I didn't touch every juvenile hall. I opened up Challenger.

I'd have been the fucking Miller, Kea, Patrick. Y.A. come after that. All right. Stillmore, Central, Elb, I did all that. So, my last time running the streets was 16. Last time. I caught my stress.

They charged at the door. I went to the pen. I stopped. having the mentality of being a gangbanger probably when I was about 19. Yeah. And I stopped. See, that's not even count, honestly. See, how you, but he can't, he can't say all this.

I'm going to put it in. He can't, he can't say all of this and didn't be on here yelling power. All right. But this is my thing. I used to do graffiti all through high school. I did tons of graffiti. I can't say I'm a graffiti artist. Let's see.

Because it was like 20 years ago. the last time I did it. Listen, you missed one of trying to. I don't think you could say I'm gangster if the last time you did gangster shit was like three decades ago. Adam, you don't even, just for the first time at your table, you're alienated. Shut the fuck up because you don't even get it. No, I'm just telling you.

I think you got to switch it up. You would have been fucked and raped. Paroo walking in penitivity as I walked. Nigel, you would have hit that motherfucker sign of that yard at 16. Nick, went to the shoe by 1718. I say this with all the respect in the world. No, no. Didn't sit to open up a yard.

You've been to the joint. You know it come with that. Well, you're the first nigga in the sale. They ain't even two-man sell it. Power struggle, North Daniel, South, phones, bitches, bleachers. Okay. Nicky, you weren't the last a day. So what I'm telling you is I did for 16.

This is a little bit like the guy who's still talking about the touchdown that he scored when he was on the football team in high school. No, I'm going to tell you why. It's a little bit like that, right? He asked a little bit. A question. when I'm sitting in here I went at the rain of the three strikes law

So I'm watching Niggas come through there Where they would have had a nickel Nigger got a dub 25 crazy shit right So when I'm in this motherfucker I'm telling myself All right nigga you come young

I had seven would have I down there maxed out So I did till I was 22 Right I came home in 99 Right I always held against my father He was a bitch ass nigga

Because he wasn't there raising me But now I got a son on the streets. His first five, six years, I'm a bitch-ass nigga too. Brother, it was dope. Violence, the gang took me from him. That's what it was. So, when I came home with 99, I didn't hit the streets. I went the right way of it, right? This real shit. Now, when you're doing time, you meet people, you tired in the shit regardless. So now when the phone calls coming, when niggas is getting out, instead of me saying, I got a sack for you, or a lick for you.

I'm saying, hey, bro, let me see in the truck driving school. I'm doing 400,000 a year with this shit. Hey, let me help you get your credit right. We're flipping houses in Atlanta. Remember, my whole perception of what a gangster's supposed to be was based off certain things I watch. So I'm working towards getting there. I've been home 26 years.

He mad because I'm not running around the mother. Nick, ain't no sidewalks for the mom. The only thing that I'm mad about is you're telling the same story over and over. But that being said. If you were to eliminate it, going to the Y, going to the pen, and just straight started the trucking company, would you still consider yourself gangster? Don't mention the truck and company. Coming from the streets?

No, no, I'm just saying. Like, you used in the streets around the neighborhood. But you didn't indulge in no street activity. You just went straight, legit, off the dribble. Would you call yourself a game? No, because I'm not coming from that. See, when I'd say that, that's for the niggas that come from that shit. And we're doing the shit we're doing.

and then we didn't figure out a way without Harvard, Yale, right, the dad, the uncle, passing down the shit, right, figuring out how to do it the right way. I'm going to tell you that's gangster all day long. And I agree with that. Then I got most steps of my passport than you. That's a fact. Doubted. That's a fact.

I'd have been around the world seven times. I bet you don't. I bet you don't. You're like 70 years old. You just started getting money, Adam. I've been traveling since I was a little kid. from your family, right? No, bike riding.

Huh? Bik riding doing what? BMX shit? Yeah. Okay, cool. So, where did no jumper start? 10 years ago. And 15.

Are we really comparing who's traveled more? No, I'm just saying... What I'm saying is, you're sitting up here, and you're a new motherfucker to the block. Am I? You just, bro. What block? Listen, you just came into this corporate shit, 2015, right? Corporate.

Yeah, corporate. I don't feel corporate. This is a corporate business. How? It's a corporation. I'm gonna say this, man. I mean, a lot of things are. Like, no, because if you, if you really saying,

you don't understand that no jumper is a corporate entity and a corporate business. I don't think being a corporation, having an LLC makes you corporate. I think being having an LLC that's active, that's generating income and generating revenue and has employees is a fucking corporation. But I don't think when people call you corporate,

that they mean that you, you have an LLC. Every retard off the block is an LLC. You have an LLC with employees that's successful in generating income. I don't think having one or more employees makes you corporate. I don't think that's what most people mean when they say corporate. What do they mean? They mean that you're kind of stodgy and like old school fashion.

No, that's not. When we say we were made jobs, student times. Yeah, yeah. Everybody knows what it means. No, bro. It doesn't mean you have an LLC. Everybody got a lot of business, right? Yeah.

You have employees, right? You're kind of successful with it, right? We know what the word technically means. Okay. I'm just saying that's not really. So what I'm saying is anybody that crosses over to that coming from where we come from? Because this shit ain't taught at the dinner table. They ain't teach me about real estate and taxes and a biker score and closing costs.

And they ain't teach me. Nigel, I didn't get on a plane until I was 22. Right. On some real shit. When we went to federal reunions, we drove. That's cool Right? So what I'm saying

It's coming from When we come from When we cross over You know how easy it was For me to get out And go get 10 birds You know how easy it is To start a LLC

Yeah but Anybody can start it But is it active I mean you can keep it I tell you get paid like 50 bucks a year Or something No it's 800 Dummy

God damn Shout out to It's being real So it's like All right All right Let me tell me Yeah

Before you don't want another self-centered rant. Let's at least consider the topics here because I actually really want to ask these guys about how they feel about DDG and Haley Daily. Because personally, I really feel like I was kind of on the fence. Either of them could have been at fault.

It now would appear to me that DG is the shining example of sanity and that the Disney princess is a fucking lunatic and probably deserves to be behind bars. We told you that. Yeah, we talk about this all the time. Men usually never tell their side of the story in these domestic.

disputes and we're automatically the villains off the dribble, including in the courthouse. They got it stacked up against us because you know, they get paid off us being on child support. A lot of people don't know that. That's why the men typically 90% of the time, they're the ones that's going to get hit with the child support. So you're saying the courts make

money. They make money off of men being on child support. So a percentage of what they pay goes to the court or how does that? They got like this formula. We broke it down on the show before. I don't have it memorized, but for sure they get kicked back off every man that gets hit with child support,

which is why even if you make more money, they'll just take money from you instead of giving you the kids. Like, she could be homeless. They're going to put her in a hotel or a program or something, and they got this formula. They take how much time you got with the child, how much money you make, they put it in there, they spit out a number, and that goes to her.

And then they get a percentage of it. Because, matter of fact, some of these programs, the mom don't even get the money. They just put the mom and the kid in the program, and the program takes all the money. They're like, we're supplying housing. We supplying the food. We supplying this.

We supplying that. But dad getting stripped. I don't work with guys that making over $100 grand a year, but they got to still live in their mom garage because they're getting stripped, literally. But before they got the house taken, then she lost the house. They didn't give him the kids, though. So you got to look at it. Like, why the fuck, if the dad has the better position, he has the better situation for the children.

And on top of that, children turn out better when they're raised. by fathers more than raised by single mothers. Why don't the dads usually get the custody? They're getting kickbacks. I just recently found that out. They get kicked back. This is like kind of late breaking news four hours ago. Contrider reports DDG granted temporary restraining order against Haley Bailey,

which we weren't expecting. And then this is the other update, at least the stuff that we posted. Haley Bailey brings up DDG's brothers fist fight, which if he wasn't even there, then how the fuck can you possibly? He was there. Everybody had nothing to do with it. Okay. He didn't get involved.

Okay. Somebody came up to them and basically said do-do garbage, which I guess is how they troll TDG, which I did not know. And she's basically saying this is not a safe environment for their child, which, I mean, granted, yeah, you definitely don't want your kid around a brawl. He probably wouldn't have been there anyway. That was like some type of. I'm not sure how he was able to avoid being part of this. I thought that he wasn't even there at all. He was there, but it wasn't his thing. His brother did what he did. I think what DDG kind of messed up at is, and, I told him after the fact, when he was on the way home in the SUV, he mentioned any niggins say, do the garbage, going to get an issue. So at that point in time, he kind of screwed itself.

I'm telling him, I said, nephew, shouldn't have did that. Somebody for sure going to test the waters. So why did you automatically believe her, though, after, like, I didn't like believe her. It's all black men are violent. No, because originally we saw her side of things, and we didn't really hear anything from him. Now, this is him getting his response.

But this is why you need it. I was never really like looking at him like he necessarily did anything fucked up. But granted, like I do feel like women almost always get custody. And when I look at the lives of most women I know who are in relationships with men, if I was the judge, I would probably look at the woman as the more likely to be an adequate caretaker. Like my own relationship, for instance, if I had to choose who was going to get custody of my kid, I think that my girl would do a better job than me. I'll be totally honest.

But statistics don't agree. Because if you look at our community, most of us was raised by single, mothers and the ones raised by single mothers all have the worst statistics in every category. You're saying that the statistics say that a man being in the family a man being present in the kid's life

is net positive but if it's just going to be one person taking care of the kid I would assume on average the woman's going to do it back. That's why he's telling you statistically the it's equivalent of a man being in a household with two with two parents of a man being there by itself.

So with the woman like you just said most of us go to prison, you end up in fucked up positions and be all emotional like you see a lot of people that be on these shows and on TV crashing out. So, no, that's the fact. If you look at the stats, I'm talking about from runaways to drug addicts to suicide to graper's to serial killers, all single mother homes. You could probably check GBT that way. Then you look at kids raised by single dads, like he said, it's almost equivalent to having

a mom and a dad in the home. Wow, that's incredible. So the father is the key. Wow. I would have never thought that. But that's dope. I mean, he, you know, he's playing crazy. No, why would I assume that?

But look, you got to realize, though, who is it responsible for dictating where the kid goes? I mean, but you got to remember, at least he's been, he's a drug addiction. What? You know what I'm saying? Oh, so he's being honest from his situation. Yeah, from his situation. He's like, oh, no, I can't raise him. You don't know if he.

I'm sober. You're drinking a pink edition Red Bull. Yeah, no, I'm freaking out. Who's got a drug problem? There's not a drug problem. Okay. But again, I'm completely sober. You're drinking something that looks like this.

Bro. I'm going to tell the court, I think that there might be, there might be Molly, Tusi, C, cocaine, et cetera, in this little drink of yours. Very cute. When the last time 30 days went by, you didn't do any drugs. I smoke weed.

No, no, we're going to actually read out. Okay, if you take weed out, then, no, I don't do drugs. Shrooms, perks, all this, oh shit. Okay. Shrooms, once in a blue. Okay. I guess his brick baby been gone, right? That has been a positive thing for my drug.

There is. There is. On the dead homie. That was kind of like, you know, something cute we had a comment. You know what? I'm glad you just did that. Because I put up a post other day and said, the term on the dead homies has no more meaning to it.

Just because people have overdone it so much. Back in my day, you said that shit. You put something on your dead homies. It was a problem. You better been something or it better been down. It's like. A figure of speech, like said, only real. On the dead homies is now like an exclamation mark.

It's just a way to end the sentence now. There it goes. The need to be lying on the dead homies are all types of shit. Yeah, they don't really have no bearing. The meaning it had before it was like solidified and it's being truthful. Now, it just, like he said. Can we have a real conversation about this? If you are a person trying to make it in the world, if you are, let's say, older than 25,

whether it's on the dead homies, when it's on. rolling, it's on lanes, it's on paro. Should you make a concerted effort to remove that from your vocabulary at a certain point, if you want to be taken serious in a corporate world? I'm not tripping that. Because my motivation of that, this is real shit down. This is one thing Shug did show me, right?

If you're a boss or you control of you, they're going to follow what you do and they're going to ignore what they don't want you to do. It's just real shit, right? Because I ain't never seen them change few people. Stunner, I don't see change of nothing, right? The dead homies thing is just something that was, it was a, it was a term that you used in serious situations.

Now it's just, like he said, it's like an exclamation. Why don't, when you hear it, you don't, you just hear it. Okay, I'll put it in perspective. As I remember, when I lived in New York, I was looking at the newspaper and there was an ad for a place that did classes that would basically help you

to unlearn your ignorant-ass New York City accent. for people who had that, you know, because to be real, on a corporate level, when you talk like that, when you sound like you're fresh up out of Staten Island, it's not the most professional sounding thing. I would say that saying on the dead homies after every other sentence is like probably a way more extreme. I'm going to tell you more worse today. No, they're going to put a red nose on you and they're going to have you on there like when you was talking about Bobby Smurter jumping on that table.

I'm going to tell you on. If you're in anywhere working in a corporate environment, still staying on the dead home, That's a bad. If you're bird man, okay, you're bird man. I mean, you're like entire value as a business man, kind of based on the fact that you're a street dude, right? You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Yeah, even that. That sounds crazy too. Yeah. But see, like, I can't talk to people like that. It'll irritate me. Yeah. Like, if you around me, none of my whole boys speak ebonics like that, niggins ain't changing words and letters and shit.

It's shit irritates. You speak English. Where do you get a corporate job and you change your secret? case to CCs on your like projects for the boss I sell shit right I know I'm saying that's another example

you probably gotta let that go at a certain point changing cookie to bookie you know just real shit it's like it's like my nigga like at some point like most niggas grow out of that after a certain name yeah once you get involved with the corporate world at all you start to learn how to cold switch

yeah when you're with the homies you're gonna talk how y'all talk but in a corporate environment, you'd be a fucking idiot to be in there talking about, yeah, on the dead homies. It's a few that get away from,

but they ain't gonna never respect your mind on that level. That's out. You ain't going to be considered no boss or even put in that position. No. You're going to be a pawn forever.

What about just the N-word? If you got a corporate job, is that just done? You can't really say that. Yeah, you can't. That doesn't fit. Yeah. Especially,

I mean, if you're having a one-on-one conversation with another person of color, probably, you get it. You both get it. No, not even not. You say around a white guy.

Because if he doesn't come from that, he's going to be offended by. If he doesn't come from that, though, he's going to be like, oh, hell, yeah. No, he's going to be offended by, no. Most older black men in the corporate world hate that word. Yeah, I don't want to hear that. But we, well, we took and did with that to just, now is like out of hand. It was already bad amongst us. You go to a gas station.

You'd be four Mexicans. Hey, my nigga, grabbed me some chips talking to each other. Shit's crazy. Right? So now we had to kind of like, because we used. to, if it's somebody other than us saying, it's disrespect. Now it's like a vigor of speech. Well, we just had Jen Lee in here.

Oh, he's going to tell he's black. Doesn't bother you hearing him say it? No, not at all. I interviewed him first. What is the basis by which you don't mind? No, after it did at first when I interviewed him, dude, like he said, he said, whack, I hate white people.

they threw me away. Blacks still care me. Taught me out of hustle and fed me, gave me somewhere. Dude in his head, he's black and his mind. So when he's saying it, he's talking how he grew up.

He said, well, I said, so if you're somewhere and some blacks getting into it getting rushed by some skinheads and you see him,

he said, me help the brothers. Fuck them white boys. That's what he said. So in his head, he's black. So I know him saying it. he don't mean

he's told me if he heard a white boy using a hardy or he's getting off on him. I mean, I'm anti-skin head, generally speaking. If I see somebody with a swatska on his shirt and it doesn't seem like they're a huge Kanye fan. For sure, I'm fighting them. Jen Lee going to look at dude like,

what's up with you, homie? So after interviewing him and saying he wasn't a gimmick and he wasn't just trying to piggyback off our culture to get somewhere in rap music, dude really, he said his family threw him away. Now, don't know. Rainwater is saying something different. Rainwater is saying his daddy rich

on clubs and Jim Lee used to pass out. He said it was his grandfather who started this club and that he worked there, but he got fired for stealing. Yeah, well, you know, I don't know. He didn't answer if he was a hookah. Now, we talk about out here, if we

was in the joint, if he's with some homies on a yard or click that's black, because we all got masks and shit and shit from my neighborhoods that's par rules, crips and bloods and shit, don't get it wrong.

My homie Slick from Caponella Park. You can't tell... Slick put black when and had his birth certificate change to black. He's straight Mexican. None of his family fuck Woody. May all Sulanyos. Who's the greatest California white rapper

of all time? California? Because I'm not even going to just say L.A. Yeah, G. Easy's got to be there, right? Yeah, he's the only one crossed over. I can't even think of anybody else. Remember Woody? Damn, I can't.

I don't get nobody from California. G. He's the only one, he's from the Bay, only one crossed over. I know what GEZZ is, but I don't know. He was Hispanic. No, he white. He's not. He's not one crossed over.

Jeez he didn't festivals overseas to. You know, it's that little Wayne played off. It's just crazy because it's like, clearly it's possible for a white person to be a respected rapper. We've seen Eminem do it. Seeing someone, well, logic is mixed or whatever.

But like, like, quit. Magmill. It's possible, but it is kind of amazing how infrequent it is. I don't know why. Well, you know what? It's just kind of like the Hispanic thing. Wow.

Number one is G. This is Chad GBT. Number one, G. Easy. Number two, Lil Debbie. Number three, Crayshan. Number four, V. Nassie. The ladies are holding it down.

Hoodie Allen and Asher Roth, but they're not actually from California. Chad TBT. I don't understand why you're giving me them on this list. Asher Roth. He had like one song. That thing. College song. I would say, gee, it's like, I think what it is.

Because when I sign their spanish, group, I'm like, ah, this shit, it's six, seven, and one out here. This shit going to work. They Hispanic dance, Sanos, they can wrap. Their roots come from Mexico. But the thing about it is the Mexicans, their people overall frown on them in Arlene, because they say they're acting like us. This is real shit.

They frown on them. So I was like, yo, bro, I'm trying to figure out a way how y'all can get the Hispanic people's support. so you know they wear fresh braids and shit they tatted up so they figure like But you don't even know They're like at war with various

Hispanic podcasts Them Because they don't appreciate them saying that way Half is the motherfuckers I clicked it on with You say who? The motherfuckers I clicked it on it It wasn't over the N-word It was over them saying that

Blacks are holding Hispanics back in hip-hop That's what we got on the ass And they should even it got to that point Because I ain't going to lie I'm gonna say this They may not like it but they don't have a, their voice is not to dictate no controlling voice of hip-hop.

Like all voice ain't the controlling voice of the fucking Harachi band. But the, the Mexicans have a ton of the fans, the fan buying power. Like if every rapper in LA, but if every rapper from LA immediately lost all their Mexican fans, their shows would all be empty from LA. They don't have to pay like 300.

And y'all only think about one thing. Y'all act like whites is not big in the fan base. That's true, too. Especially depending on the artist. Like, I remember going to a Tyler creator show in Santa Ana in, like, 2015. I didn't know that there were rap shows that were this free of black people. There was no black people there. Yeah, but it was 99, well, a good mix of Mexican and white.

But I just honestly didn't even know that was possible. But you're saying, no. So you're saying because your fans, of hip hop, you're the voice of hip hop. No, the fans are showing up for the performer. I'm just saying. So, how many Mexican performers are setting out to the stadium?

No, it's comparatively very small. Are they showing up to their own shows and outside of their hoods? Like, say if you got a Hispanic artist, how many of them already fans of them Hispanic artists? Right. Just look at lefty gunplay. He's their biggest artist right now. He went like Triple Wood his first week. They didn't buy none of his

shit. Triple Wood is crazy. And look, you know, but That's not true that he's actually that big. Sorry, someone like, O'Gizi is 100 times bigger than lefty gun players. I'm saying like the momentum. One of the most viral then. You got like Peso. He made good music. But how many of them are really in a big bracket are supporting them?

I got to correct you on some, bro. Because you keep doing this shit. Go ahead. Keep saying, let's the gun play. Hey, listen, white dude, this shit don't work. Don't make it about me. You're the one to call it a press move. No, I said a press, like you're pressing them.

You keep saying lefty gun play. released his album. He keeps saying, he just said one time. No, he said it around his other pocket. Go ahead. He said, let's he was done the only ones that did something with the Kendrick shit. Right, right. From what I see.

This album. But I'm just here to enlighten on something. You said this album with Triple Wood, right? For sure. Lettie released the album the day Kendrick released his album in November. That motherfucker went quadruple wood. So you need to, I'm just his second. one.

Oh, so you release too. If you go pull up, nigga, the day Kendrick released the album, left it released 16 tracks, nigga. Brilliant. And shit did 400 copies? Five, six hundred. So I need you to start representing the right way. No, no, but you got to give him a pass on that.

You released the same day as Kendrick. No, I give him a pass on that. Crazy, hilarious, sex. It should have been the biggest boost imaginable, right? It was hotter than that. It was. Okay, so what I'm telling you is, stop, leave it out. the first album.

I'm gonna give him a pass on that. When he released the same, anybody would have win Triple World releasing the same day as Kendrick that day. Yeah, that was crazy work to even do it. But what I'm saying is, did you know that? That's, I remember I just slip my mom. You should even release the same month as Kenzie.

But I feel like if I have a, whoever later on him is they ought to put on it. If I have a feature on the Kendrick album, what could possibly drive more people to my Spotify to check my shit out than being on the Kendrick album? You know? So, yeah, in that moment, am I like when I listen to the Kendrick album

absolutely I was going to listen to the Kendrick album again and not the lefty gun play album next but in general you know it puts a lot more light on him and everything like that but yeah I mean really like the whole lefty thing is it's just like a deception it's like they're just trying to fool the industry into believing that he's this big artist when in reality bro he had to cancel a show a couple months ago and he lied and said it was because of the fucking fires he still got a lane he didn't sell any tickets now lefty lefty got the Because we in a day and age where people fall more for your personality and who you are as a person. I don't think they really like his personality.

They just like his personality. Yeah, but what I'm saying is he's able to still keep itself in some way in the space of content. And that's our point we making. Like they're mad about our perceptions or our opinions on music when they don't even support their own music. Lefty gone play could be the Mexican Kramer of television. This is the thing. Mexican Kramer's. The average Mexican...

He is like that. I'm not telling you. The average Mexican person... The average Mexican person does not want to listen to Lefty Gunplay, even though he's closer to their community or whatever. Obviously, based on the numbers, they would rather listen to a Kendrick, to a O.GZ, to, you know, hundreds of different rappers, obviously.

But like, you know, just because he is Mexican and he kind of represents shit that they might see around the neighborhood or whatever, That doesn't change the fact that this full count. I'll tell you was, I'm going to give you a little advice, lefty. From what I've been seeing on the news, I wouldn't go back to your neighborhood for about a year. Why, what's going on? Man down, police get killed over there. Listen, they're looking for any and every reason in that section.

Listen, if he's smart, don't, I wouldn't be over there if I was him. Because he's the biggest thing over there. Just real talk. I didn't even know that. One guy shot, one got killed. Cops? Yeah, police. I wouldn't.

If I was him, I'd be like, I'll be done with that. Because they're going to target him. Yeah. That's what they do. Damn, that's crazy. So did you believe that stance, though? What? Like without Hispanics, L.A. rappers wouldn't be nothing?

Crazy. I mean, I do think that they're a huge percentage of the fan base that actually, like, supports with their buying dollars by going to shows, buying merch, et cetera. for sure i see that that's a huge percentage of them but the idea that like black people are holding mexican artists back to me just seems crazy because there's all kinds of black entrepreneurs who want to make money in the music business and for sure they're not letting the color of someone's skin get in the way remember when we see stat quo pick up little zana and start pushing his

little mexican ass was that a black person holding a mexican artist back no that was stat quo not giving a fuck about what the music sounded like or anything he just wanted to make money so he signed a Mexican kid. I mean, to me, the idea that that's, I mean, who are the Mexican artists that could be huge?

They just haven't got a shot yet. No, I think, if you see, all black artists, hip hop, they're promoting their self to the world.

Right. You know, let's get the fuck out LA County. I mean, there's a lot of what's you. Well,

shit, what about the rest of the world? I mean, there's a shitload of artists all over California who have basically pigeonholed themselves by making,

you know, insular street-related music. and a lot of them are probably aware of that. But, I mean, you could say that somebody like King Bond was basically making music for the trenches of Chicago, but then it ended up appealing to a much larger audience. But he also was making very good music comparatively, you know, with hooks. I'm going to be real.

I don't know nothing about the King Vine until they killed him. Yeah, well, that's part of that. I don't know none of the body. Yeah, you're old head. That's okay. No, he in the industry and all that. I didn't know none of him. I didn't know he was a killer.

Why we own music, man? We need some new artists on Cash Money West. What's going on with that? Yeah, what's going on? Cash Money, Wes. You focus on diapers? No, I'm focused on everything. Diapers, real estate music, everything.

You need to focus on money. Face I didn't line him up. We got boxing matches. You got to line up. And working on his album deal now, which is probably going to be through cash money. So, you know, I'm always doing something, but I'm going to be real.

He ain't looking for no new artists? I don't see none. So what you're saying, niggies out here, trash. See, for one, I'm going to be real. I don't want to sign no gangster rappers. I just think you niggas, you niggas is too cool to TikTok. And just real shit.

It's like what it takes now, right, to, it's 70% content, 30% music. Give me a non-wrapping nigger that knows how to work yourself and engage with his fans. Then a rapping-ass nigger who too cool to engage with their fans. fans because once we spend all this money and you don't do what's free for you to do it don't it don't help the situation the area of music that I consider myself to have some level of expertise in is the exact kind of artist that I would not really want to sign yeah I'm not fucking with them yeah and then it it's too high risk exactly yeah you give a nigga half of em or something and you 300 out there in the water on marketing and promoting this nigga run back to the hood get shot

smoke killer nigger beat his girl up so now it was like all right well what we gonna do now like i know you at one point at least considered working with trayway i think he makes some of the better trayway uh six blank no i never i never but you had a conversation with him at one point no that was all cap oh okay but a lot of these niggas used my name for clow i'm only bringing him up to say all that was cap i think he makes some of the better music from street related artists in l.a and i don't want all the bullshit that comes with signs. We're going to print that up. A white dude called me, said he was from Oxnard.

He said he had an artist and he wanted me to help him with. I said, send me his profile. I look at his profile. I called him back. I said, I can't work with him. His name is too crazy. A lot going to come with that. You might want to tell him to change that up when he'd get all he could do what he want. It's going to be at this point in time, the table was still set. Right? It's set. And blocking shit is real. You get what I'm saying? It's politics. So there's no way I could

have did that. You're saying the Hoovers are blacklisted from the mainstream music industry. I'm saying with his name at our table, Big U was at our table. You get what I'm saying? So there's no way

I'm going to go push these buttons and help grow this dude who's disrespectful to somebody at the table. If there's anybody their neighborhood, I'm just meeting them today. I got real deep roots over there.

I'm not assisting to helping nobody who got a name that's a disrespect to their neighborhood. It ain't going to happen. A lack of respect is a sign of disrespect. So how am I supposed to face my comrades over there? So I told him, look, if he's not even mover, I didn't care about that.

But if you, you know, take that out your name and let's roll another way because the label's going to be scared of you for one. Why? Because the big you stigma was heavy out there. Oh, he's this big you gang. They don't want to fuck with you. So I told the white dude, I couldn't fuck with it.

And that was it. The nigga called my number. Next thing I know, dude on the internet screaming, I blocked his deal. I don't even know that. And that's, there is some sort of weird prejudice against L.A. artist because when I was with Atlantic, I tried to sign Draco and basically got told no because it was too close to home. and then I seen those exact same people from that exact same label signed all kinds of murderous-ass drill rappers

from the Bronx and Chicago and Florida, etc. It's not in their backyard. So to them, it's kind of whatever. I brought nephew a $4 million deal, and he turned it down. What was his reasoning? He had the Drake song that hadn't come out. I get a call from up top in Republic. They hear stunter, stunter hit me whack.

They want this dude. This is what they got to. the table. I said, Drake, oh, they got a four million out of deal for you. They want to Drake's song, don't release it. He's thinking, I'm gonna put it out myself. They might go to six million. I say, nephew, you don't got what it take to put that out. And the politics don't work against you, because if you don't take their deal, Drake ain't going to promote it. What makes you say that? Because he's under the Republic umbrella. See, a lot of these niggas in the streets don't understand politics.

it's ain't no right or wrong this ain't no gang bank shit it's politics right so what he do he released the song Drake didn't promote it didn't do nothing he came back a month later

why I called him I want to do the deal I called him in front of him know what they said shit of release it ain't doing nothing we got 750 for it damn that's crazy damn it's real shit right I mean so I'll be telling a lot of people

like when that boat come Don't get big headed. Oh, they offer this now? Let me weigh it out. It's going to be that. Boy, they mean, took that shit, chopped it up, gave it to three other people. That song really wasn't it. It wasn't about what it was it.

It's about what they could have did. It's a lot of songs that we think wasn't it, but it's what that machine could have did with. I'm just saying, Drake, Draco had so many bangers. And if he had taken one of them and sent it to Drake and said, hey, can you think of a hook for one of these? It could have been huge. That song just wasn't it. Draco has songs with two big Latin artists. He had three, four, so they knew what he had.

Huge Latin artists. Who? Big ones. You don't know their names? Yeah, I know. Me neither. I know. I know my name right now.

I'm sure I ain't heard of them all the while. No, no, no, like real big Latin artists. Right. I googled big Latin artists. Bad bunny. No, no. It was another dude. But he has some shit.

So, you know, I was working. I caught Flack with that. Because he had war with all the bloods in the city. but they find out he had my studio sleep. I'm like, shit, the little nigga ain't didn't. I keep telling me, I'm not a gangbanger. I don't gang. I'm from where I'm from.

I don't hate niggas because of where they're from. Now, if you do something. You're a youth offender. Huh? No, I'm just not a bro. I don't get up. Bro. And we was gang banging this podcast wouldn't be happening.

Yeah? You've never seen gang banging. Okay. I'm okay with that. That's real shit. We're not. Niggas is just... I got gangbangs on the other day.

Niggas is conducting business. But now, shout out, Draco, but they didn't trust that you could control him anyway. That would be fair. They didn't trust that. Who you talked to Mike Kaiser or something? Mike Karen. Okay.

Yeah, he didn't trust you in controlling. I don't blame him. I had no idea what I was doing at that time for sure. But anyway, like, just to go back to that, I've never made my girl so mad that she switched over to cap. lock mode. What the fuck is that? I'm just not okay with them.

Oh, she texting you? Yeah. In all caps. That to me, that's like, who did that to you? Haley Bailey did that to the DDG. To me, that alone is reason enough to have her parenting revoked that she shouldn't have custody of those kids. If you text in all caps when you're mad, that's why you're unhinged.

Get out of here. Never mind. The suicidal talk she was doing her. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I know one. They want to. Let's get to this game, his own. Top 100.

The worst list ever. Are you the reason why he put lefty gunplay as number 99? Yeah. You shouldn't even build it. Yeah, it's crazy, right? There was certain parts of the list where I'm like, oh, game put a lot of thought into this. And there's other parts where I'm like,

game probably didn't even look at this. No, game. He probably had to have some new, some new generation. He did the list because I can see certain people that's in there. Okay. Let's me know game, like Ozby. Hmm. You probably don't know who that is.

Ozby? Yeah. I do not know. He's from Blackstone. K-boy. Certain people I've seen in there, they work with game in the studio. So I knew he created the list.

K-Boys should be on that list. Shout out K-Boie. Yeah. Tupac shouldn't have been on the list. Did he put Tupac on the list, man? Pah going number one, man. That's hilarious. What's your argument for why his park is an L.A.

That's cool. Five niggins shouldn't be on there. Just because he bounced around. He's not everything. Did he live here for like a year? I don't give a fuck. He could live there longer than that. 11 months.

No, he wasn't 11 months. Ice tea. How long he was in California? I was too, ain't he? Corrupt. Yeah. Corrupt. Lady in rage.

She ain't from her. No, it's like four, five of them. Shouldn't even be on there. So corrupt shouldn't be on there? Hell no. There's a bunch of people he put on the list that complex apparently disqualified because he also put like Donald Glover, Child just game being on number 32.

I mean, he's not really from here either, so that's like another weird one. We can't see parts of this because I haven't scrolled down. If that's the case, Nipsey should be five. Hell, now you should even top ten. For sure. Nipsey should not be. You're based on what? Exhibit?

You named all them. So, so Nixie shouldn't be on it either. So Nipsey shouldn't be over there. Exhibit from New Mexico. I don't know why people keep gasing this with Easy. Easy is not top ten. Easy is not top ten. Easy is not top ten.

Easy is not top one. Chubbett said Tubak left it was five years. What? Cube was the reason all of that was going on. Easy is not top of him. Without Easy's bag and Easy getting. That don't make them top ten. You have to consider a solo career.

Tube made him getting the boo. Huh? Cube had them getting in the booth. But Drake made him get in the boot. So, listen, so what I'm telling you with it. You can't, you know what? You won't write your raps, you automatically disqualified and being on top. No, no, that's a complex specified that they were not holding that against you.

If you got a ghost rider, you're not a top tier rapper. You know what fuck, master flex, you started this shit going at Drake. Okay, the thing is, nobody gave a fuck about this. It's too hard to figure out who has writers and you does. What's that? What's that? Once we found out that a lot of artists didn't write their own music, yes, you automatically discover.

When you're making a list like this, you have to just say, you can't do the who wrote and who didn't. I'll read, why you can't. Oh, Kanye, because it's too hard to figure out. I know more artists that. Hey, hey, one mic. Go ahead. The reason why you can't count it in order to decipher who is because you don't know who wrote.

Like, we wouldn't know that Drake had writers if it wasn't for megmel exposing them. Oh, I know he had writing. A lot of people would have assumed, but you can, But you can't. You ain't got to assume, even on credits of CDs, they show more than just one person. Like, we know that he didn't write his raps, but that's like a weird little, like, tidbit that we all know

because of the fact that it has been exposed. It don't matter. It's probably a bunch of people on this list that don't write their own raps. I know, oh my God, I know a rapper who's on this list that I have seen them in the studio working with a writer, and I wish I could say it right now, but I'm not going to do it.

But, give us an excuse me. There's somebody on this list who's rated extremely high that by your standards, does not deserve to be on this list. Who? I can't tell you. Tell us all fair. I'm speaking.

I will say, off here. Nipsey is over Eazy E, that's a fact. You can fuck out of here. Nipsey is over Dr. Shat out, Cousy Capone. Nipsey is over Dray. What? Such an important over Dray.

What? Nipsey definitely. You're on drugs. You're on drugs. That is impossible. Imposable. You only saying that because of Warren G. No.

What are you talking about? How are you talking about? You're not saying that's just the Warren G. No. Because Mald D. Dre had been ignoring him and he didn't get in the law. America has not heard a Mixie song until he died. And still probably hasn't.

Dr. Rez is one of the most important rappers of all time. Important producers of all time. And rappers. How many albums you know? Yo, that's gay. What are you doing? You said what? Who?

Yeah, I don't know about all that. Shout out Cughey Capone. Whisperin's crazy. Yeah, but look, this is the thing we count rappers? Huh? I know. I'm just strictly going off a rap. It don't matter.

Why is the game above Culeo? Who? You said who? Baby Keem is above Culeo. He's from Vegas. You're putting. him above Amish, not Amish, gangsters, paradise, and fantastic

voyage? No, Culeo should have been higher. Baby Kim was not on the complex list also, because he's not from here. It's five or six of them, niggas ain't from here. There's so many things wrong with this. Roddy Rich got top, top 31. Rastcast should have been way higher than that.

Rast cash should have been high. Tradee is disrespectful. I'll rap most of them rappers on there. But when you're talking about, when you're saying top L.A. rappers, are we saying overall? I'm saying rap. It was three categories they had. They had influence, catalog, and sub-melt.

It was three of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got to consider that. Rask has adapted. Lyricism. His ass where he's supposed to be. They had lyricism as one of the main things. Now you've got to factor in success in the catalog.

And influence. Nipsey's catalog is deeper and better than the easy-ease. He's over-easy. What catalog? What you mean? I'm counting his mixed. I'm counting his mixed. No, we're not doing it.

All you can't count it out. How you can count that is music. We're going to count. games mixtakes? Yes. I'm counting his mixtape. I'm counting his disc tracks. I'm counting everything that he put out on the beat.

Game, game, we don't discredit game for nothing. But especially when the rap, rap game, that's why we were even talking about with this little rap beat with the West Coast Coast. Y'all saying Nipsey had more influence and easy. I'm not going to say,

no, I'm not going to say influence. I'm not saying, I'm not saying influence. I'm going to say he do. I'm going to say he do. Like I said, I'm going to stand on his heel.

And I'm going to say Nipsey made better music. People only, majority, name, okay, the same way I do people, name five EZ songs.

Creeping on a come up, fucking. We're at the whole album. Yeah, stuff. I'm not going to grab my phone. But I, I might be honest,

I don't really listen to EZE as much as I should have since I was a kid. I can't name any nip songs either while we're at. It doesn't matter, but what I'm saying is

I can probably name that. EZE was part of one of the most important rap groups a lot of time. He started it without him. Hey, what did he do when, when he never put out.

If he didn't have a solo career, if it was just his work on NWA, he would still be way bigger than that. No, I'm saying body is to put out a solo record. I'm saying, if you compare bodies of work. Yeah, we got to. Who bodies of work is better, nips or easy? Easy. How?

Not even close. How? Don't know. Take away the NWA. That's a group project. No, that's a body's farloat project. Quiro. No, Fock the police was a game.

No Vaseline. He performed it. Cube wrote it. He performed it. Nip is writing his own music. There's no way Nipsey Hustle have more influence in hip hop than Easy E. No way. Trip it.

How old are you guys more influence? You copped and tripping. I think this is generational also. We're older. Nip has more influence. You didn't like live through easy. Right. So you don't remember when he was like an active rap.

This is what I'm saying, though. Regardless if that's the case or not, if Kew wrote all that stuff, you're just discrediting the Q's Pee's piece. Cube exposed? What did the rest of them do at the Cube left? We're not discreding his pen. What did they do when Cube left? Easy cap drop of music.

Just the shit. They did that. That's what people remember. Compa City G's. The whole thing is still cruising. Okay. When you say influence, who is he influencing today? Because his influence stopped with the older generation.

Nipsey's influencing the younger generation. My kids listen to Nipsey. You sure you want to do this with me? Yes. Let's do it. Ain't no kids today listening to Easy. And y'all can't use the generation stuff when y'all still be mentioning Tupac and Biggie and music.

Hold on. I don't know why you want to do this shit. Let's do it. These dark-skid niggas be doing this shit. Yeah, and y'all couldn't name five easy songs. Also, the idea that kids now are listening to Nipsey is like, what kids? They can't.

That's so boring to me. All kids listen to Nip. Go to a high school. Seriously? They're banging Nip. That's a fact. This is, I've never heard anyone said this in my life. That influence.

what that influence 200 million straight out of Compton right listen kill it he still got an influence does he not what is it no this was the group

this wasn't easy easy it don't matter that wasn't it's a key that's part his legacy that's what his influence A mom biopic influence that was M&M

you're speaking on NWA a fucking group where ice cube The movie start with easy One of the greatest groups of all time What does that got to do with his

rapping ability. Oh, that's part of it. That's only part of it. No, this is what I'm saying. We're talking rapping, strictly rapping, influence, rapping, and catalog. Those are the three things that complex laid out, which I think makes a lot of sense.

He's got one album. Nipsey's catalog is smoking easy E. His rapability is smoking easy. You're talking about numbers? And it's safe to say his influence right now is smoking easy. You're talking about revenue? What are you talking about? No, I'm talking about his catalog.

You're talking about your personal opinions. And we pull up numbers, no way. So we're just going off numbers? We got to. Because your personal opinion, my personal opinion is going back. That whole list change if we're going on our numbers. So what people are influenced by?

That's running. That whole list changes. They're supposed to. Right now, more people are still. It's supposed to. More people are insinuating all money in and marathon life. And what are people still going off of easy besides the nostalgia? But when your generation, when your generation perishes,

when your generation perishes, it would be no longer keeping an easy name alive besides the small, like you said, the NWA. the albums and Cube's influence on that group. You know the crazy part about it? It's our generation that controls the business. That's cool, but that's what I said. When it's over with,

Nipsey interviews and all this stuff that's still going on would still be influenced. NWA will be remembered forever as one of the greatest rappers of all time. I don't think anything Nipsey's done can even be put in the same category. Y'all are still debating. That's like debating.

Okay, G-U-Nit. 50 Cent had influence. outside of G-U. He had influence with G-U. We're not going to take away G-Richita versus a G-Nit-Begh for Mercy album. But when we judge Lloyd-G-U.N. We don't have to talk about game with G-U. He doesn't have influence outside of G-U.

And he still was doing his thing. His pen is not questionable about that. And you said Easy didn't have influence outside of NWA? So what was Easy album? Because Victory Lab was a classic album, in my opinion. So what was classic? I don't care. I'm saying it's a classic album.

Is it a classic? Um No What makes it not a classic? You just hate now this point You got some type of beef with you Yeah that's all that is Y'all got some type of shit

or y'all has some thing going on It's a classic album Victory life is a certified classic When Nip ever mentioned my name And a disrespect for what Me and a nigga talk with was cool Niggas is mad Because I give my fucking other people

I forget all that Easy E has the bigger song on YouTube 426 million views on real motherfucking Jesus Christ Nipsey also got 220 million Granted six years versus 15 years but I'm just saying.

Hold on. Let's not act like it's catalog as a relative. He lost 20 years. No, go back to Nip. Yeah. His biggest songs are like 70 million and then the one with Roddy Rich is 220 million. You know six years ago versus 15. I agree.

Most 15 years. Go to the rest of easy songs. Exactly. No, he lost 15 years. That's a very good. Go back to Easy. We have music up. Yo MTV wraps.

No, go to the rest of easy. Easy has a bunch of other songs that are like 70 million, 50 million. But all this is. 650,000. And, right. All this 15 years after he's dead. That's not anything. 46 million.

All of this is 15 years after he didn't die. What is easy? His classic album? All of him. Which one? This one right here. No. What is his solo classic?

Easy does it? That you playing from front to back? Easy does it. Generational. Easy does it. The new generation is playing easy does it? Easy. It's been so long.

It's so long. Recency bias. She died. It's so long. Recency bias. No, no, no. Tupac still. Tupac albums is still being played to

this day. Reasonable doubt, still getting played to this day. Still Maddox, still getting played to this day. All of that time, shit, that don't matter. Biggie album. Still getting played to this day. Granted, nobody's playing Easy album. He spent the best part of his career and music on the West Coast. No, nigger throughout the world. They're playing Nipsey worldwide.

Listen, I don't think you understand me. Go to New York. They're not playing Easy E in New York. You don't understand music. We for sure understand music. You don't understand the business. You're just looking at numbers. No one. That was a lot of them will look at. The business is what is a debate? I'm going to tell you why I don't look at numbers because numbers can be inflated,

numbers can be manipulated, and they can be controlled. Okay. EasyE has been dead for 30 years, and he has more monthly listeners that Nipsey Hustle on Spotify right now. That's a fact. I mean, let's be serious.

We're going on Spotify? In terms of level of how big these two artists were, you cannot even put Nipsey close to Easy. I'm sorry. When I tell you all, y'all don't understand me. And you guys are too young to remember his influence also. that you all don't see, right? Let me ask you a question.

I hated to love it, been out 20 years. Right. You don't hear that shit on the radio. You don't hear nowhere. Sometimes. It still get played for sure when it's say, even when they play the 90s and the stuff like that, you'll hear more of that music than you were here.

So if I was to ask you how many times a day you think that song is streamed, what would you say? And music is down 50. percent right now for urban what would y'all say that's irrelevant because y'all moving to goalposts the whole point the whole point is i'm asking i'm asking because if i asked you how many times a day it was streams 20 years later it ain't on the radio i mean it's there sometimes you know how many times would y'all say it was streamed but that song stream numbers doesn't make you a better right no no i'm

saying no i'm trying to listen it measures impact pretty well that song stream i have a million times a day and we down 50 percent that's that song stream i have a million times a day and we down 50 percent that's A fact. See, this is shit y'all can't see because you're not in the... All right, that's cool. Tatiana can still be getting stream

and be one of the biggest songs right now. This is 20 years. This is hated of love. What I'm telling you is just because of what y'all see on social media don't mean music ain't still moving.

Also, if we're going to talk about influence, it's moving. I can't make this. We're not arguing. He just broke down and told you why. When we're talking, influence, there is no nipsy without EZE.

That's the fact. gangster rap. That's a fact. That's a fact. As a group cumulatively they created the genre. So it wasn't gangster raps before. No, barely. No, nigga. It was a hip-hop. This was the

battle between East Coast and West. They had to hip-hop breakdancing graffiti, all that shit, DJing. And we came with the drive-bys, low-riding, crippling and blood, Jerry curls, gangster rap. I'll give you that. That doesn't make you a better rapper, though.

No, we talk- But that's the only part of it. We talk about it. But you're only, you keep just saying only influence. Let's talk his rapping ability. His rap influence people like Nipsey to want a rap. Nipsey was a pretty whatever. Rapper.

If we put Hipsy on the track and we put EZE on a track, who's going to have a better verse? I don't know. 10 times out of 10. I don't know. I don't believe neither one of them could. Easy died 20 years before Nipsey's career pinnacle. Nipsey's not barred up. Are you too far up?

Nipsey is not like some great rapper. Outside of game. Outside of gang. We agree on gang. We agree on gang. Razz cash. Rast cash got bars. I mean,

you know, Cube. Cube got bars. That's what I'm saying. When I tell, I don't be fucking hate, nigga, I'm just giving me.

Nixie has bars, but y'all saying Easy has bars and No, I didn't. Easy. Easy. I said I don't think

either one of them is barred up. Kendrick is 20 times for Nipsey hustle us. Kendrick is barred. But y'all talk about irrelevant stuff right now. I said Nipsey is above

easy. No. No. Y'all bringing Kendrick and all these other people to get help. I'm not bringing nothing to do

nothing. No. I'm going to tell you why. When you mentioned Nipsey, you didn't have more money, just Nipsy. They ain't sold more units wasn't as relevant as that man. Nipsey barely got his career off the ground. When you talk about NICS, ain't had more money, then sell more units. When you talk about EZE, you have to mention NWA. You don't mention nothing about EZE.

The ngo solo career at all. Without him, wouldn't have been no NWA. No, without Q. No. I'm giving that to Q. They had the rhymes. They didn't have to finance. They didn't have no motherfucking. Cube had the rhymes. Cube already had them. Eliminate Cube.

Give them the finances. No NWA. You did. Cube left. It kept moving. And what happened after he left? He kept dropping. What happened after Cube left?

Cube the greatest all times of me. Kew killed off the whole group. Yeah, he definitely did that. But Easy kept going as an individual. So who's your top three all time on the West? Ice Cube, top three? Top three? No, go top five.

Okay. Ice Cube. Games in there all time. everything. Dre, Snoop, and Kendry. So you put,

so you put, so you put, okay, because I, because I said, I got, I'm going to tell you why. When you tell me

all time, right, I'm looking at really everything a motherfucker did, right? Let's go from the production

side of it. Like you said, without Cube, it wouldn't have been no NWA. Without Dre with the beast wouldn't have been

no NWA. They all played a critical part. So to build it at, right? Now, let's go to the Tupac shit.

Without Dre, Wouldn't have been the pot that he turned into. Because the pot prior to him coming to death row was a regular motherfucking artist that was controversial in the streets when it came to his music. He wasn't doing those sales like that. That's some Dre shit. Now let's look at what Shug did the Drake took him down. He'd come back up.

Nika, nigga, so make create a billion dollar company. I'm going to give him that. I'm going to give Game and shit. Snoop. Snoop is the most recognizable artist in the whole motherfucking world. Right? He's still running around getting a million dollars a show getting on stage, right? He then crossed over to all genres.

Martin Stewart over here. The nigga controlled the gospel charts for 16 weeks. I don't know if y'all know this type of shit. We agree with Snoot. Right? We're not arguing. Okay. Kendry, that's what that is now.

You know, we can't take that from me. This nigga's breaking arena records. Nah, me. He's breaking his own record. It's hard to judge them during their time, but it's impossible to ignore. the fact that Kendrick's had this, like, unbelievable, like, 15-year career. Yeah, I remember right now. But see, even at 15 years, niggas is leveling off, a nose diving.

He's out of his hot porn. He didn't win somewhere else. And you got to remember the longevity of artists today is totally different from back then. These niggas lucky to get two summers. Brow many, you putting Dre in top five of rapping his crazy work. Huh? How are you putting Dre and Top 5? He's had like two of the absolute most classic albums in hip-hop history.

And this is a thing you're going to argue. Who's going to replace him? Quick and out-rap, Dre? Yeah, I put quick. The things that you take away from, Dre is like stuff you have to take away from Kanye, too. Like, yeah, he was a composer, a maestro more than the solo performer. But quicks a regional rapper. No, Kanye elevated past production.

You can't compare him to the top. I'm saying that, like, Kanye, you have to consider one of the top rappers of all time. Even if he had people right for him, like Dre. and he was mostly known as a producer like Dre and most of his best work in terms of albums were groupings of people. Rap and ability, yes. Huh?

We talked at top. Niggas. Neither one of them in my top five. Neither one of them in my top five. We're just talking about hardest rapper, cricket eye. He'll fuck over 90% of them niggins.

Yeah, I said, bro. That's a fact. Yeah, but when we say, but his overall isn't there. When I think a hardest, when I think a hardest rapper, I don't mean just sight. I just mean, yes, you can have rapping ability, but also you got to be able to make songs. Okay.

So that still counts in the play. Right? You got to have followers, right? That's who buy your music. Yeah, but when you go album sales and stream, we know record labels was buying albums back then the same way they got streaming farms now. You think they're buying them for easy? That's why he's being nipsey and both the listeners. They're coming out of the trunk, my nigga.

Them niggas was coming. So record labels wasn't buying albums back then. They was pressing their own shit? It was they not buying albums back? in? Do they not have street farms right now? I think that came in with 50. That came in with 50. 50 was under novel when he came in. No, but during 50's eras when artists actually started buying albums like around that. I'm explaining. The accusations that labels were buying albums was like

50 ushered that era in of that accusation. But what I'm saying is, I don't believe 50 ushered that is. What I'm saying is, I never heard our artists talk about it before 50. 50 ushered in watching the album sales. Before 50, nobody cared about them album sales. I never heard anybody accuse anyone of buying fake album sales until 50. Well, at the end of the day, listen, when you're dealing with album sales, it offsets itself with buybacks anyway. This is why streaming is so dominant because you don't got to, you don't got to worry about a buyback. A leak. Leaks don't even exist no more. It's a DSP, that motherfucker player, you get an account on it, right?

A lot of people don't understand that DSPs come from a thing they had called the Champagne Report. when they release a niggins said, I sold a million al-a-monds this week, but it's 10 million illegal downloads. They're like, well, fuck it, let's tie a code to this illegal download to track it, and that's the stream. So that's why they stopped coming with physicals.

That's where it came from, because they couldn't stop the leak. Somebody in the motherfucking label was selling the music, and it gets out there, and that's where it went. So the champagne record, when the last time you heard somebody talking about my shit got leaked? It don't matter. It's shit leaks all the time.

It don't matter no more, because if it's being played, it's being counted. Back then, when it leaked over there, you lost it. You lost the count. Is that why? Or did they do that to get more revenue? Artists scrap their entire projects

because of leaks all the time. When you spending money, you don't get that. And you ship and you ship and you ship and you do a million that week, right? But then you got 10 million illegal downloads. They said, how could we make money off the illegal downloads? So they created a way to track it, a DSP.

They try to tie the DSP to the soul. Okay. So now it don't matter where it's at. But why getting paid? Why do artists shelve their entire projects when their project when their shit leaks? Oh. It happens all the time.

Cardi. Nah. Cardi ain't dropped a fucking project. Yeah, but he's had huge issues with leaks that caused him to not put a shit out. If you, if your shit gets leaked before it's on streaming services, this is often considered a reason to not even put it out. know why. I'm gonna tell you why. If the song is leaked,

which it ain't leaked, they putting it out. Not ours. Bullshit, that's a fact. If let that motherfucker catch, she's gonna claim it. When they leak it out and it don't do shit, they say, oh, it's... Back to the drum board. Yeah. So it's not... This is why niggas come with this fake-ass.

The people also say this shit leaks all. All you all y' all know, a mixtape was an artist rhyming over other niggas beats to show if they can make a better song than them. Now, niggas is putting out shit with original production that they had to clear, claiming mixtape because if they don't do numbers,

they say that it's a mix tape. That's not no fucking mixtape. That's why I started counting mixtapes. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm counting mixtapes. Because if you look at fabulous discography, you got to count it. They trash.

But if you look at them sole tapes, that's some of the best hip-hop created ever. I got to count that. If you go back to where the mixtape is, back to the DJ K Slate days, nigga, see, Slay game was he would get a whole of the songs coming out

before they came out, right? We're going to write off the entire mixtape era because they weren't released on major labels? No, you listen to what I'm telling you. Original mixtapes you couldn't sell because they're on other artists. But Nipsey's mixtapes were... That ain't a mixtape.

But why would we not count them? That shit's not out. What's the logic of not counting those? Because they didn't want to say it only did $4,000 to $5,000. as an album, which I would have said it because if this did $5,000, you dropped the next one they did $10,000, the next one they did $15,000.

You're showing growth on your indie side, but they didn't, like he said, when 50 start pointing out numbers, niggas was running for the heels. So they say it's just a mixtape, like it's just marketing the promo. That's not a mixtape. A mixtape is you rhyming over other niggins production.

But to say all that. But to say all that. But he was right with that. Yeah, but to say all that, and then you say you only count in victory lap, That's just defeats that whole thing you said earlier. Nick, you burned out. I just told him, nigga, when he said that, he was right.

I gave it. I don't care. Because we, we wouldn't count that. You said he only got one, but it don't matter. No, no, listen. But a lot of artists, a lot of artists can take the verses now. That's why a lot of these don't see Wayne with the same jumping on everybody beats, because he said they'll take his verse and put it on their real albums.

So I don't know. No, you can't do that. By the way, we got a new Wayne album in like one hour. Right, I'm waiting. What you think Wayne is going to do, man? I think Wayne in this climate because everything's down about 50% and... You could do 100. Not even numbers.

You think it's just going to be a good hour? I think on the low, I think 100, 150. Little baby did 120. I think that Wayne could do 100. But this is the thing. Y'all, it sells this. It's the only engagement is the Kendra-Lamar Super Bowl shit. Honestly, him having Drake on the album is such a huge part of what's going to drive those sales.

The nigga party next door had him on an album with 22 tracks and Kendrick outranning with 12 tracks. That's the biggest album of the summer. The biggest song of the year. Kendrick did 320. That album was trying. The niggas did 2.50. I don't like it either, but it's gigantic. Kendrick Lamar.

Look, the niggins had 22 tracks. The more songs you got, the more streams you got to credit to the first week. Kendrick out ran that dick about 7080,000 with 12 tracks. So that Drake factor right now, I don't know. Wait, you're trying to say that Kendrick sold more first week with GNX. Oh, my mom, we did. Okay. We got a fact check of these numbers, yeah.

Fuck is you talking about it. And let's get back to the mixtapes, too, man. I'm here for it. First week sales of G. I don't know why you keep trying me, why won't be? He can't believe it because he did. That was racist. No, it was not.

It's not. It sounded like some racist shit. Swahili. Oh, okay. Okay. 319,000 equivalent album units in his first week. That's GNX. Pull up their shit.

319. 12. 12. All kindergarten guy was 12. These niggins had 22, the star power and crowd of party next door and Drake. Watch what they did. Kendrick murdered that Drake effect, man. What are it, 250?

Okay. Well, for all the dogs. did $402,000. No, no. You talked about what the album did. 246. So you're right. Yeah, okay.

That album was trashed. How many tracks? 22? 22. 22 tracks. Kidrit is 12. So remember, the most songs you got, the most streams you accumulate.

But it was still number one. Don't matter. Motherfucking Kidrick. I ran him with 10-Lex tracks. It's not like a real Drake project. Oh, my God. He's on 20 other songs. It was only R&B.

He was on 20 other songs. It was a collaborative project. While suing the label, while suing the label, there was a collaborative project with a random ass R&B singer. Wow. Now, it didn't really get pushed that hard.

And you could see that because his albums before that sold way more. You can't say that if you just counted NWA for easy. That's a literal contradiction. That's the same thing. What does that do with anything? Because that was a collective project, so it was NWA. But I'm saying it's deserving of an asteris. The same way that, yes, EasyE's career is deserving of an asterisks if you want to talk about.

No, you said its impact was stronger with just NWA, period. And now you're saying it doesn't matter because he's collared. Oh, my God. The fact that you guys are comparing NWA to NIPC is crazy. We're not compared to NEPC. You box yourself in again. You said he was going at the label, so it's an asterisk. Why?

Because when you're going to war, with the label and they're not helping you out as much as they probably would otherwise, then obviously that's going to rely on my sales. By inflating those streams and doing what they do behind the scenes. Bots, whatever. Kendrick's doing. Kendrick's still on the team bot. That's why I'm not really counting numbers. They don't know no team bot.

He got bots. Okay. Was it Bots? So he mad Drake can't get into bots. Wait, hold on. Watch this. Yeah, those are bots in the stands. Yeah.

So we saw that Drake had to cancel that tour. You said that. I don't know about that. It's a fact. Pull it up. You're talking about Australia. Yes, yes, he canceled. Oh, no, it was a scheduling conflict.

Oh, now fuck all that. Was it bots in the crypto center for three days? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it bots when he did nine men and 14 men? Is there bots in the seats? Not all of them, but yes. I think that some of them, some of those were AI, yes. You can bought all you want on this.

But when it comes time for them shows, you're going to see who really in them seats. Well, actually, they were there for scissors. The Kendrick hate is crazy. No, I don't hate Kendner. That's one of my favorite rappers, L.A. Can't handle it? So who do you consider the greatest of all time then?

Greatest rapper. Of all time? Given the same parameters we're using with this list. Everybody, we're talking about what? Jigga. No, overall, everybody. In hip-hop history. Given the same exact parameters that we use for this list.

Jay-Z. Jay-Z. Right now. How would you go, Jay-Z? Eminem sold more than Jay. So by nothing. So by nothing else. Everything else, Eminem would be over J.

Numbers. Okay, now let's go to influence. You know, y'all remember. you just, you know, rock nation, fucking Brooklyn Nets. M&M pulled the ladder up behind him. He didn't have no white boys coming up there.

I'm taking nothing from Eminem. But if you go overall, we're talking about all the times are really looking at where he come from as an artist. What he turned into, the niggins was the president of deaf jam at one time.

Sputoff and did all, God knows what. Wife the bad. We're talking everything. He can't wife the bad. You can't count all that. You can't count the wife and Beyonce. In him,

Every album and it went diamond. Huh? Damn there. So we just talking to album sales? No. I'm saying you're talking everything. You said streams. You know the most stream.

Eminem is the most stream. Streams, influence, all that. So you said Eminem got more influence than Jay Z? Not more influence. I'm not going to say that. If they drop,

M's going to do more numbers. If you say the numbers that I ain't really good. Jay Z is not a current rapper. Yes, he is. But you can't compare like nobody gives a shit when he dropped down. He's just as current as Eminem. They drop any one.

No, I agree. But so so you think, You think worldwide Jay Z is bigger than Tupac? Hell yeah. Fuck, no. You crazy. I don't know if I was saying.

You crazy. Lost your damn mind. As much as you didn't travel around this world? Yeah, yeah, okay. What you mean? Look, it's certain places you can go out of the country. They're going to know Tupac. They're not going to know Jay Z.

Eminem has twice as many monthly listeners on Spotify. I'm going to give you that. But watch this. Eminem. That's what I'm saying. You got 70. You got like 30. If we're looking at as a rapper and a fan, right?

Okay. I believe a friend. a fraction of the people know Jay-Z, more people know Tupac, right? But let's go to the buildings. Jay-Z got more monthly listeners than Pock. Yeah, let's go to the buildings. That's crazy.

I mean, bro, when we're talking about the overall, let's talk about the overall. You can't take nothing from this man, bro. So we're talking about Eminem then, like he said. But Eminem, he don't do the overall. M&M do rap. What's the overall? Everything.

Your reach, what else have you done? y'all count shit they got nothing to do with music they got everything to do with music because it's from the music to where his influence was able to work there they're there if m&m had the desire to do the things that j z can do i guarantee he could be in those positions to do that i'm not saying he can't we say what people actually doing to count stuff like um jay going to take over to brooklyn nets and getting champagne emm can probably do the same type of stuff if he wanted to i do think that should be excluded from this conversation Because beats by Dre is unbelievable. Like, it's the craziest shit ever that he pulled that off. But, I mean, does that affect? We didn't mention it once when we were talking about Dr. Dre. That's how they dilate these conversations. Y'allelior, y'all start throwing this shit they're doing outside the music.

Because, like, Jay is going. Rap music is created, not to stay in fucking rap. Use the influence of your rap to do other things because the rap's going to run out. So we can say. So we can say, I agree. But that don't make you a better rapper. So we can say Snoop is bigger than Jay. We did.

If it's a top 100 rappers, we got to be talking about rap. The complex... The complex used did not include outside business. And they didn't say top 100 life care is a motherfucker. They didn't say top of hundred lifestyle.

If that's a case, you know, we're not talking like that. We're not talking about it. That's why Snooplin. And who's making the parameters are at... Snoopopi 2 or 3. Who made that?

But that's only because we have a team of writers. They kind of specified as an article. But he said out at all hip hopin general. He had got all hip. So Snoop should be bigger above Jay-Z then, right? After everything, Snoop is done. Movies?

No. Businesses? No. TV shows. Snoop is extremely big. Music. But even Snoop himself would tell you that Jay-Z got some more, some different shit going on. Who got more influence?

Jay or Snoop? Snoop. Snoop. Who got the better catalog? Jay or Snoop? Jay Z. Definitely. Okay.

So who did better acting? Jay or Snoop? Snoop. To Jay, acting? I don't see it stay property Okay so what's put Jay over Snoop Because Snoop he has the influence Jay you saying he got the catalog

So what separates them The overall See Snoke just made a move A couple years ago with the death row shit And he's doing extremely well A lot of people A lot of people no he didn't A lot of people is

A lot of people is He was going to sign it but they hated on him That's what really happened right chained him is crazy chained him he chained him um a lot of people look at death row far as what snoop doing with the music but i understand the other shit snoop doing

you know what i'm saying like technology side and he's making crazy money movies and shit like that but i think he'll make his move but when it comes to j z and the bro rock nation is crazy

alone i agree with That's the business. If we look at Jay's rapping career, I get it. At no point during Jay's career was he ever considered like the guy, the number one. No, bullshit. When all the heavy? You're crazy. What year?

What year? What year? Let's start for reasonable doubt. Let's start from reasonable doubt. He didn't exist. Pock was out. Shut him down. Not a popular album.

Biggie was out. Shut him down. He didn't exist. Okay. Now let's keep going. By the time the blueprint came out, I think he was considered the best rapper. The top rapper. What?

Yeah, that nigga. 50 was running the game. 50 came out. 50. 50 came out. 50. 50 took the throne. Jay Z got on an interview himself and said,

everybody got to sit this out when 50 was in the game. They said, hurry up and drop because when 50 come, it's over with. We pushing everything back. You're right, but 50 really popped off summer 2002. And I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real with you. We got to consider fifth, too, where he at? Because he owns some Jay Z shit, too.

DMX, he ran the game a year. Platinum twice and one. one year. Definitely did that. He was over Jay doing movies. He would have been a billionaire if he had the habit. But see, you can't say that. That's the part. See, now you're on some other shit. But he's, oh, he's acting. No, I'm just comparing

the influence. He had that factor in? No, I'm saying. He had the Jay Z influence that Jay has now. Atting Rock Nation is just as bad as taking away crack. That's what I'm saying. You know, it's like the same thing. Nick, what are you talking? I'm a DMX Fet. His influence was way bigger than Jay's back then.

I'm a DMX Fet. But we, and he was over Jay. You asked me. today in 2025. And he beat Jay in the battle. And if Pock is alive, is Jay even Jay? If you were a better rapper,

I'm a DMX fan. I am a DMX fan. As I'm an Ice Q fan. So what makes you say Jay is the best? I'm a rock him thing. What year did Jay run rap? But we're talking overall, maybe y'all don't,

ain't really in tune with his overall. We, how are we not in tune? I knew everything you said. I knew Jay Z before Jay's even changed up his style of rapping when he was rapping fast. And he's only being in tune with that. You still on rapping.

So that's because what are we discussing? Because from rap is, what is Rock Nation? What kind of build? We understand what they're producing. What they produce? But at the end of the day, to be a top rapper, you still have to have the rapping skills. This is how the game gets fucked up.

You're telling me, Jay Z ain't got no rapping skills? I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying is you're ignoring the rapping skills. You're looking at more of the business ventures. He got the clothing in the champagne, Rock Nation. We didn't ask who it was bad hustlers. No, what you mean? I'm looking at the spread of it.

If you say, well, what's the most dangerous virus that we had to deal with? And I got a virus like the black plague that did what it did. Versus COVID, I would say the black plague. Okay, since we say that, did not. You know what I'm saying? The spread of it, the spread of his music career, bro,

is undeniable. Well, we know what COVID was. That was, I can't even say. That was a bad example. I was like, oh, my dog. The same shit. I'm pretty sure they had a hand in manufacturing. Was he that dangerous when Ether dropped?

Did we feel like that still? Hell yeah. Or did he feel like he could be fucking? I felt Ether won, but niggas was, he was that strong, people was buying. If we had modern technology, he's a black plate probably wouldn't have been that bad, y'all cap J himself was intimidated by his peers. He was scared of 50.

He was scared of Wayne. He was scared of Wayne. He said he heard of Wayne first. He said he had to re-evaluate. He had to re-evaluated. Why do you retire? That's not as respected. He was.

scared of Joe Button. He didn't want to, no smoke for Joe Butler. No, he just didn't want to give him a verse. No, but I'm saying he didn't want to engage in the battle either. Matter of fact, he really didn't want to engage in no battles outside of Nause. He used to send Beanie Siegel. He used to send State Pride. That's a boss.

I don't think he was a battle ready dude like that. You can't say that when he went and when he thought takeover was the shit. But Nause was somebody on his level, you know, like somebody worth beefing with. I don't think as much the shit as game would say about it. He's not on his level? He was never going to open it. They went back and forth a little bit, but I felt like they always had a little bit of mutual respect.

Like, you know, it didn't really, like, turn into that. 50 was trying to turn it into that. He bossed him up. He's jumping up. 50s. He spent so much time beefing with so many different people, but he didn't really, he wasn't really going at Jay like that. I'm still waiting to hear.

It's like, Fingie. It's a mother like Scarface. Everybody got their nemesis. When Scarface did Sitz 50, 50 didn't say nothing back. Because Scarface was in the nigg's careers. Did we even hear Scarface dis 50? Who heard that? Yeah, I didn't even know they was beef.

Who heard that? Nobody heard that and you know that. Stop it. You was a bitch, nigga. Snitch, nigga. He started off, nigga, dropping the 50 cent piece. Maybe y'all didn't know what was going on. Okay, I do what was going on.

But nobody cared. It didn't do shit. Nobody cared about Scarface dissif. Why he didn't respond? You talk about niggas and didn't respond. All right, yo, I got a dip. You guys want to keep doing this by yourselves or we're good. Why didn't respond?

What you mean? He had nothing to gain from responding to Scarface. And we're going to end it like this. In New York, Kendrick had nothing to gain. We're responding to Joey Badass. He made it to Tulsa. That's 100 miles east of Oklahoma. We didn't hear it out here.

But the little homies is underground, they heard it and they responded. We're going to leave it at that. Hey, everybody go check out the viral way on YouTube. They'd be dropping different shit every single week. They got all kinds of crazy shit in their catalogs. So make sure you tune in. And yeah, thank you to everybody who watch this. Shout out to R&B for giving us something nice to look at

when we get frustrated over here. That's right. I'm going to keep pushing. I got me a 25 year up. I'm going to figure out how to get you upset sooner or later. I'm going to keep saying it. You got to get Brandon here, Woody. You can't.

Yeah. Everybody, drop a comment if you want Wack to hoist his nuts up. This is the problem. I'd be willing to do bad. This is the problem, though. Wax is a control of whack. Wax and control the whack. I don't have a brick baby.

contract. Ooh. Damn, low blow. Shots far. No, the truth can never be considered disrespect. Low blue. It's so not true.

Because, all right, you know, you want to know what's true? Jayze's kids look weird. Still disrespect. Kanye went on. How would you say that, bro?

I had no idea until I brought it up around my girl and all her friends, and then they were like, well, those kids do it kind of crazy. And I'm like, what, really? I thought the people were a man and she don't did.

That ain't what he said. So who said it was in the studio? I can't tell you in front of him. Cool.