No Jumper - The Adam & Wack Show Ep #111 w/ Wack's Dad & Lil Woody!

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Wack responds to Styles P, Woody spreads peace, Wack's Dad gives his perspective! ----- Check out e420 app for deals Apple: https://spn.so/g6gbid5j Google: https://spn.so/104g2yp6 use code NOJUMPER for $$ off Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You forgot? Come on, I'm going to take a show. I did for you. That's crazy. Next week you go. We're going out there with Alshan? He been calling me, too. He got the little Samoan dudes out there.

Bro. Rapid. He booked me a flight that leaves tomorrow and comes back in a month and a half. A month and a half. In October. So we got to figure that out. All he just put the wrong date? We just have him changing before you leave.

That's what he's doing right now, I guess. Yeah, don't get on that plane until he change. Yeah. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. Oh, he can get stuck there. It ain't nothing, but, man. He sent to us, instead of sending us the flight residence, the hotel, he just sent us a website to the hotel.

No, that shit, that's it. $200 flight change. He got it. That's all I'm going to take you. I'm a manager, nigga. I just, I didn't know. Remo don't know that we're going to Hawaii to hang out with Al-Shan Martin from Hoover. He got a bunch of little small brawlers.

Some small little bloods out there. He'd be calling me with him. He's a gigantic human. I keep you following him, so I'm like Wackner. I know, Arshan. I know his daddy, his daddy won't all four or five. Oh, he should get his dad on here too. He rest in peace.

Oh, rest and peace. I'm sorry. He's a while from Devillet, like a real. How often, like, how soon y'all want to bring him in? No, man. It's in the new order. Whatever, yeah. No, he can crash.

When we want to crash. A little ball hit, my, man. Yeah, yeah, all right. Adam and Wack. And we're in here today, and it turns out that if my dad comes on the podcast, somebody, a little bit of a copycat, he's like, oh, I'm going to have more, Doug, come on, too. Well, we already had the understanding. When I asked you, they both come, you said, man, that'll be like 150 years between Bo-O.

Well, 75 and 73. His pop 75. Let me tell you why this is crazy to me, because in my mind, you are so old. Hell now. It's crazy that there's a dude who could have, like, been involved with giving birth to you. I'm the baby, fool. I'm just saying. You're like my oldest friend.

I got two older brothers and one older sister. That's crazy, too. My oldest brother is 55. God damn. I'm 48. Mm. Zach would have been 53? 54 and...

I think him and him and Ali the same age, right? Six months apart. He cheated on my mom. What? I didn't know it, I wasn't here. Wow. It's okay. We all make mistakes.

We're a mistake. I wouldn't making mistakes those days. Looking back on it, it still doesn't feel like a mistake, even if it hurt your wife. I didn't know about it until I was like 10 or 11. I cussed up. Scream, scrimmed, scrimmed, pops.

If I ain't known no better, if I didn't give my life to God, I ought to get your shape up. You hear what? I didn't do this in front of you, but me and your son got everything. Hey, why are you holding? Right there.

enough to take care of his business. No, he ain't. He's no better to sit on down. I thought you left. I'm gonna be like you. I did. I hid in the bathroom. I heard.

I'm gonna be like you, case. We got a fight. I'll see your hand, you know. Nah, I'm a son of God now. I can't,

I can't. Digger, you're faking. You got another case somewhere. Digger, you fake it. I ain't got no case. You got a T. You got a T.

R. I got who? You got a T. Yeah. Who is that? Guy, we know who got fucked up on? Hey,

Pinky. How's it feel? Pinky. Pinky. Yeah, nigga, your pink. Your whole face, pink. Man, look, man. My face for the winning, man. Don't worry about my face. How's it feel, though? It feel alive.

This nigga, I did doing donuts on the dirt bite. Lie. Quiet. And the truth ain't in them. What you was on, a foe, you fought, will it? I was on a dirt bike, and somebody ran it to me. Was you supposed to be riding, was you riding a dirt

back in the dirt? You always trying to justify your wrong. was, but not, I was running dirt by any dirt, but not at that moment. What's up, Woody? Good to see you, man. God is good. You're one piece. How'd it turned out for your daughter?

She ain't cry. She didn't cry. Thank God for Doug. So obviously right now, if you wanted to victimize Wack, you could. That would be no big deal to you. You've done it before. It would be no problem. Victimizing.

What made you decide to show him mercy? Look Woody, a little bitty dude You think so? Yeah, you're a little bitty dude The last nigga thought there too A little cricket No, uh Man

You know It's Woody, we talk We talk shit to each other Oh, Face, Oh, IG FaceTime No, he called me and talked shit

To me That's cap I mean, You guys have threatened Each other's lives before, right? No, I don't know the nigga I don't know

I just my first time I've ever seen him Listen, I can't be that man that a man, that mad at a man, I don't know. Okay. I'm not, these other people, I'll be tripping on the energy. But there's no way I can never

hate, I may disagree with something, I may have my opinion, right? But a man, I don't know, I can't be there. It's too many people that I got to, really, if I wanted to do something to, put that energy to right here that I can apply that to. So this man, 2300

miles away in his own world. So you're saying he got a pass today? I didn't know, I'd never had a, I never wanted to do nothing to Woody. Hey, man, listen. We just talk a little shit. He gave me some followers and shit. I didn't gave him some.

You know, good content. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, we're smart now. We ain't going to play the game how we've been planning for all the years. Yeah? Yeah, it's time to switch it up. This is a little nigga right here got on the stand. No, no.

I was forced on the stand. A nigga, line. He got on the stand. He worked them. First, he'd give him some shit. He shouldn't have gave him. Then they give him immunity. Was you, in the end of those crimes taking place, was you dare to say, what happened?

No, but you shouldn't, don't say, I didn't say, I didn't. You shouldn't have talked about what happened. I said myself free. Let me tell you what he did. He said itself free. So they give him immunity, right? They mess up. He played dumb on him.

So everything that he told him when he got on his stand, I got to show you. This thing, it got some of the craziest shit. He said on the stand. He reversed it. Commandment one. There it go. Paramat one. What is that?

What is the first commandment? I forget. If they snitch on you, you can snitch on them back. Now listen, I will tell you this. You wrote a book just to say that, huh?

No, it's 13 commandments. The 13 commandments of the Y ends. He's going to hell. Listen. Because there's only two commandments. You can't say that being a God-fearing man. I know the book. Love that God

and serve your gut and only your gut. And two is. follow the commandments. I am a disciple. Right, it's right. Rone is wrong. Don't do the crime. You ain't got to worry about anything.

This is right. It's a whole lot of commandments, brother. They just only put out, they put out 10, but it does make this one statement. He said, if you keep that one, it covers all the other commandments.

Oh. So WAC can make commandments? No. So they mean they don't want to apply to you? No, these apply to the YNs. See, if I can get the YN's reading commandments, it might interest them in your commandments. Well, your commandment should be don't do no crime.

No, but they're doing crime. Because they don't know no other way. So the O-Ns have to understand the mentality of the Y-Ns. No, you, y'all are supposed to show us the way. We don't know. Ain't no OG. How are you going to not do crime? You're not much of a Y-N anymore.

No. Sometimes. I think I was on the dirt bike. You're looking like Frankenstein in right now. I'm alive. The good thing is I'm hearing the flesh. I could have been gone forever. I told me it looked like bacteria. And I told me he like a walkie.

But I want to know just that one question. How are you going to not do crime? How are you not going to do crime by listening? Listen to take advice from the elder. Someone who can show you the way. So you're going to do crimes doing that. Well, it's impossible as long as your heart is beating and you're living not to do crime.

This is what I mean when I say that it's impossible not to do crime because good is opposite to wrong. So if you do good, you're doing a crime against the person that believes. in the wrong. If you do wrong, then you're doing the crime. Now you're doing the crime here. That's the reason why. That's the reason why he said, if you love

me, you'll obey my commandments. Go ahead. He only loved him when he thought he was going to get 30 years. You didn't love nothing when you was running around doing, what thugs say? They commit crimes every day. Not about you, though.

He probably said about you, sir. But, you know, I have a question. You seem like a very, very religious man. Him, maybe not so much. I'm not religious. Oh, okay. He just laid you in that direction. Hello, what are you?

What are you? I'm a man. Oh. I'm me. So what you buy by? What you go by? What I go by? What do you mean?

What I go by? So you said you are a pastor? No, he said that I was religious. I'm not religious. because you see the thing about religious here it sets you under a set of rules and it causes you to have limitations of who you would have been or who you could be.

But that's part of the value of religion, right? Is that the average, you know, caveman without religion, why not kill somebody? Now we have laws and shit like that. But really, like the value of a commandment like thou should not kill is that presumably, it's going to make a lot less people kill other people. Well, I don't want to get, well, long as we're just doing this.

When you talk about laws, when you talk about laws, laws takes you all over the place. We do remember, too, we do remember that it was a law not to teach us to read and write. it was a law it was a law that it was all right by law to own people I don't care much about laws could change

every law got a low there you have it and laws could have been could have came from evil it didn't have to come from good it was once upon a time there was a law against the black people learning how to read

you know what I'm saying so that law changed right we will say it changed for the better but somebody like Other people may say it changed for the worst, that they would rather see people like that still, right? So, you know, when it comes to that, he's non-denomination. He started off as I remember Baptist, and he was one of the... Well, well, that was when my mother had control of me.

Yeah, we were definitely, you were definitely Baptist. I was Baptist because I used to sneak out the church to go down to the cornerstone to get the now-ladders and all that. You go out and get some look, are you a drunk? No, I don't, I don't... He never drank. You know? I don't drink, smoke nothing.

He ain't never drink, smoke nothing, smoke nothing or whatever. Why he looked like that then? Because he got my good looks, man. Listen. Listen. Here's the crazy part about it. If you look like the way you look at because you took a drink.

Nah, I didn't drink. Yeah, you were. You don't drink either, right? You was drinking. Come on, me. Or smoke, actually. I don't. I don't.

Did you used to drink a smoke? No. I always been drinking. No. No. Actually, that's bizarre. You both are two of the weirdest people I know, and you both don't drink a smoke. Weird.

Weird. I'm just saying it's very rare. People in the neighborhood, well, they said about him and my brother. But they said about him that they don't know how he gets so crazy, and he don't do nothing. Is you happy to be his father? Am I happy to be his father? But when did you first start to realize that there was maybe something a little different about your son? When he went growing up?

Well, he had long hair, boy. Oh, no, he had long hair like his mama. What? When I was, when I was, oh, so you were, hold on, what happened to that good old hair? And they get three. What do you mean? What do you mean? What did he said?

You said that he had had good hair, good old hair. Women had had good hair. Huh? Well, my mother. Everybody. hair is good hair. Why are you calling good hair? What are you saying good hair?

You don't got your hair no more. Exactly. We ain't got none. Our hair ain't good. My hair's from turkey. Your hair is, you know, you asked you about your hair.

You got imitation. You got the average dude hanging out on the corner. You got benipulated hair like this. He then flew the turkey but 13 hours and let them plucked it. What you got? Because it lays.

Yeah, okay. There's a good air. You know what I'm saying? I know. Listen, hold on. You do know, like growing up, I was always ahead of everybody. I could tell.

Everybody I hung with was older than me. I'll dinner, football, basketball, track, school. I was a straight-A student. But I live where I live, and I've seen the things I was seen. And I think because I was a visual learning, I caught on the days quick, where it worked for me in school

and sports, it worked against me when I thought it was working for me when I got home because I understood what was going on in the streets, young. You say that's too fast.

Slow that now one more time? No, he was in ESL classes. No, I was in PEC classes. Whatever the hell that been. Special education. So you got to talk to. PECC.

What's the answer? Special education. Special education. Special education. No, that's what they call PEC, special education. No, that's real. Like, I never saw the sixth grade. I went from the fifth to the seventh grade because I was going through the schoolwork so fast.

Every year, they were sending me to the next class. By the time I got to the fifth grade, I'm in there with the six graders, they like let him take the test. And I went from elementary to junior high. But it was like I was a visual learner. I caught on the things real fast. But when I got home to the streets, right, everything was going to. around dope, dealing, prostitute, killing, hustling. You're positive?

No, it's what you see. Oh, oh, oh. It's what you see. He was around that. Yeah, you see it. You can't, you want to, you want to, you know. I think he was planning like this out of the stuff he was doing. No, you said, but you were with me.

See, look, he was with me. See, with the average youngster, right? They don't understand what they're around. I understood it. Mm-hmm. I got it. I was able to put together, okay, this dude come by, and then he dropped something off and then this dude come by

and then pops handing some money. So I understood what was going on. It was a hustle going on. I got it. So what I did in the third grade, I did the same shit. I got me $20. With the smart final brought me a tub of liquid, lollipops,

and went and opened up shop in the bathroom at the third grade. And was hustling like that. First day was horrible. I didn't know what the problem was. Until I got on my bike and got to the corner and all the girls was waiting on me. They were scared to come in the boys bathroom. So I had to get me a female runner that was a time boy who I paid in candy of money to get their orders and bring them to me. So but I got that concept

watching the dope house. I like. We got to be careful what we're doing in front of our kids. I like how you explained it because it goes to what I've been saying. If we had people like wet who understand like you understand, not you have them. You don't understand. I'm white, so. No, they don't have nothing to do what you're white. No. Bro, you take golden showers, bro.

He took a golden shower before we got here. I was just kidding. Oh, that's what you're looking. Some I read in the magazine when I was in jail. Well, it was a female golden shower, right? Huh? It was a female golden shower, right? It doesn't matter what kind of gold.

Yeah, he can't be a man goldish. So you still want to go to the ditty party? What's wrong with a ditty party? It's his party. It has his own. That's his party. Some of the stuff that came down in the court. Was that true?

A lot of shit didn't come on the court. He's the baby oil, man. Did he, did he, did he, did he, did he, did he, did he, did he, did he wanted to do? It was three phases of Diddy party, the backyard, which went from like 11 to 1230. The inside the house was from one to three. And then from three on to the next end of next day, that's some special shit them diggers was doing. We never made it out the backyard.

You got all the details together, though. I mean, we knew, though. Like, you knew, this wasn't no secret. Did he just ruffled the wrong feathers and they came for it? So from an OG to younger generation, how do we supposed to look at that? How do we're supposed to embrace that? You're supposed to learn that although you think you're doing something in your home,

although you think you bigger than the program, because you got this money in these mansions and you're having it your way. Breaking the law is breaking the law, and every time you break the law, you give them reason to come service the law when they want to. they've been knowing about his parties. They've been knowing about these things. But he opened the door.

So whenever they was ready to come get him, they came and got him. But as a younger generation, as the YN's that you call them, how do they supposed to feel about licking up to someone such as Diddy and understand how to take that situation? Diddy was doing the same thing that the YNs are doing. He's just doing freakier sexual shit. But the YNs are doing? Everybody's doing drugs and having sex.

No, man. Did he just got, for some reason, the weird preference to see some other guy bang his wife in front of him. And then rub the cum on his nipples. That's too much. I'm just saying that's the only part that the Yans ain't into. No. Everybody taking Mali's into different shit. You just had this one dude bending over over the toilet.

Put his ass on the camera. He was asking his girl if he had a hemorrhoid. That's cool. I mean, whatever you may be. What I'm saying... You ever had a hemorrhoids? No. There's no walk in the park.

You had a hemorrhoid? I had quite a few. Oh, that's great. I thought dogs only had hemorrhoids. I don't know. What do you go? Daws? Yeah, I seen a dog when...

Dogs. Sticking out. Oh, you had stuff stinging at your butt? A bubble. Ooh, man! You found that shit funny? Hey, yo, so... So...

So Pops, everybody seems to think, right, that they think all kind of crazy shit. About what? About every day, they got all kind of crazy shit to say about me. Half the stuff, I don't be doing where it comes from. The other half, I don't know, I don't know, it's just people, their imagination. But the city that you raised me in, acquaintance. Right. The city that you knew before me and the city that you saw it turned into with me, a gang war zone.

Mm-hmm. Right. Now, you had two sons called up in the gang violence. Your oldest son was pretty much a hustler. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. You had two sons called the gang violence.

Now, what did people used to come tell you when I was running those? those streets when it was those streets? Well, you used to tell me stuff I didn't know. You could speak freely. I'm speaking freely. I said stuff I didn't know. I mean, nothing really surprised me because when his mother got pregnant with him, and she said she was pregnant, I named him right there.

What? No, I don't even call him that. What's you got him? Call him Cash. Are your real name Cass? What's my real name? Cash Jones. So what you get wet from?

It's Cash McElroy Jones. You got to remember. You think that's funny? You got to remember Elroy. Yeah, I know. No, nobody knows. But let me tell you. These kids don't even know about Elroy from the Jetsons.

Holden, listen. That's what the time. Because everything I did was for a reason. Jones is his last name. That was our name, Jones, right? McElroy

is my mother's maiden name. So Jones and McElroy breeding together created me. Now, it ain't so funny, is it? But anyway. But anyway, but anyway,

during that time, I'm young, I'm hustling, and I'm hustling real good. I had Buckema, but I wouldn't have nothing but a little weed hustler. I didn't do nothing, but... Yeah, weed was big back then. I didn't do nothing. They tried to get this nigga 10 years in Angolia Swamps on that weed he had. I was selling in Buckema.

I was selling 30 kilos every morning and every evening. In the 70s? Yeah, in the 70. That's a whole lot of weed That's a lot of weed. Ain't nothing legal. What were you doing with all the money? Huh?

What are you doing with all the money? We're living off of it. I didn't know too much about investments and stuff like that, but we lived off of it. And originally, I was a car salesman. Okay. What do you have at car salesmen? A bunch of Cubans, Colombians, and Mexico. And, of course, they would love to get into that neighborhood, right?

But they need somebody they can trust. No. They have Roberto. I figured out the gardener was more than the gardener. My name to you, Pops. Yeah. Right? Did they tell you your son was getting bullied or getting told what to do?

No. What was the report there? Because everybody knew you because it was your street's four was my. What was the temperature of your son back when I ran the streets? They said that, they said, man, that baby boy yours is something else. He trying to live up to your name. Huh? He wasn't living up to my name because, you see, my name.

I said there were what most sons do. No. He was a hustler. My name, see, my name was quiet. I don't believe in being all out there because I tell people how not to get caught. How not to get caught is simple. Stay scared. Let me ask you a question right there.

Stay scared. This is a real question I want to ask. Okay. I'm going to try to get your real answer. You got no choice. No disrespect when I say that. I always have a choice. No, what I'm saying is this is for the millions of people that's out there.

curious about snitching. Snitching? Yes. My thing is. You mean snitching? I'm going to give you a real scenario. I'm going to give you a real scenario. Question.

Listen, check me out. No, because you got, you got a different type of peat. Everybody want to know what. You don't ask my pops, right? Everybody want to know what's snitching, right? And let's just be real. Let's just play it on table. Then I just say, stay scared, stay quiet.

No, no, but just for the things that I read to take place. Yep. But you know, me, I stay quiet. I'm free to be child. I'm here with child. Despite what child thing, I'm here with y'all right now. You did what you had to do with the station. I did what the smart man would have done.

And that's what I did. If I would have continued to be stupid, we all would have been in jail for the rest of our life. Somebody had to take the sacrifice. Somebody had to be the brain. Everybody ain't got the mind because if I was stupid, guess what we would have been. We would have been in prison. So I prayed and ask God to deliver us through that. And I trust in the process to follow the Lord through.

Okay, so what's the question? That was for what? So the Lord told you to snitch. I didn't snitch. You told. I didn't tell. Woody, you told. Ain't nobody in prison.

That don't mean, niggins because there's nobody in prison. You know what I mean the niggas sent in jail? Listen, you know what I mean the niggas sent in jail wishing they had somebody like me get on stand? You sat in prison two and a half years behind things you said. Ain't no niggas. Man, what do you knick is talking about? He did. Oh.

The dog sat there two and a half years. How do you think the police got on me? He told on you. Yeah, I ain't say that. Commandment one. If he snitch on you, you can stitch on him back. Damn, me, you go to hell, don't you do? This is the question.

So the question is, still trying to get to it. So the question is, let's say if you, if a crime had been committed and you end up getting caught for it. They wanted to give us 10 years in Angola. No, no. out. If you get caught for it, right? Is it snitching if you try to finesse your way out? No, look, let's just be honest now.

Is it snitching if you try to finesse your way out, right? Watch, watch. What do you mean? He's trying to get pops to clear him. No, go in. Pops been to the pin. He don't play that shit. They could have gave him. He was looking at that 10.

Woody is finding not out. Go ahead. Look at 10 years in Angola. Go ahead. And I had my cousin. You know what I did? What happened? Let me tell you what I did.

Yeah, tell them. I went in the court and told them. You told them what? I told them, whatever is in that van, I'm responsible for the van. So whatever you're all dealing with that van is me, this person, which was my cousin. Boo Jenkins. I just picked him up. up from Alabama and he's just riding with me.

I'm trying to get him home. I'm trying to get him home. Wait, wait. Watch him. Who? That's a fish. I ain't going to contaminate my pop like that. I know a nigga walking earth would ever do what I did.

You ain't a contrabba. You can say whatever you want. I ain't know what did you do. I ain't figured out what you did you do. Did you? I walked away from a licenseeck. And I also bought some more people away from a license. What you do?

Talk about my name. Well, who got the life sentence? Nobody. They just fought and went to jail. Everybody. Shut up. Sometimes you gotta go to jail. This is why I'm fucking with.

The dick all this. Hey. Hey. What you mean? Oh, shit. You gotta go to jail, my nigga. You gotta go to jail for a short period of time. Was there was, look, was there was some folks that was out of

jail and ended up going to jail. Yeah, niggas started from the street. Hell, or Rico. And so was it like, okay, every now and then they go pick up somebody due to your program? No, no, no, no, no. That's the fact. What?

No, I just, I don't know. Due to your program, every day go pick up another nigga. Listen, Nick. No, don't even lie like that. Don't you play like that way. No, I'm just, I'm, huh? How they picked thug up? Because he was being stupid.

But you gave him something. Take accountability, my nigga. You didn't give him nothing? Bro, my interrogation from 2015. Why do they go give them in 2022? If I gave them... They didn't have a 10-year investigation. Let me and you together every day

and I'm telling on you, they ain't got to wait years to come and get you. But you... They could, though. They can. And that's what they did. Listen, if I were feeding them proper information and helping them out, right,

they had a solid case. Oh, let me ask you. Without the way... Okay, hold on. I got it. I just didn't have a... Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, his key word was, if I was feeding them proper information.

Now, here go to question. The information you gave them kept them interested, right? No, I gave them, listen, because you don't know the case. Did he keep them asking you? Did it keep them interesting? You had to give them something. It didn't keep it. Okay.

Listen, my, my, did you go tell Thug 10 years ago you was giving them information, whatever it was? Don't know. Swear the God to you. You told Thug. So you told Thug, You was telling them people that information. I told, listen, you got to understand what you don't know, bro.

Every time that question, listen, this, I'm telling you. Every time that question me, I told them a different story. No, did you tell Thug you was talking to the police in any way? What you mean? I wasn't talking to the police when they was getting me. Bro, let me tell you something. It's out there. Go look at the interrogation.

I'm asking, did you tell Thug, like, if they picked you up in 23rd, them is thrown out there, and you told them whatever, did you let Thug know that you... No. Because it wasn't... Listen, bro. Listen, listen. When he got this thug...

How come Thub wasn't a part of the game of what you... Dead go. Say that again? I said, how come Thug, this brother Thug wasn't a part of the game that you was putting down?

What he's supposed to know? Let me tell you something, man. Something you don't know. He's laughing. I'm laughing. When homicide called... Listen, though. When homicide called,

you know who told me to go down there and talk to them? you laugh and tell him who told me to go talk to him I didn't make it wasn't me exactly Doug told me going to go down and talk to him when homicide call answered the phone right next to him I said homicide what everybody look at you feel what I'm saying and after you talk to him

Doug got in trouble no definitely no no no he didn't I don't okay when homicide question me I didn't know what was going on I said because I'm still waiting on that question you were going to answer y'all keep saying but y'all bring it up different story

What question you want me to ask? I don't know if you're going to ask me. I try to ask me. I did. I said, if you can't trap me up. You know what I'm not trying to. I know the life I live. I know what going on that y'all don't know. So it's like, y'all can't. I know every day. That's why you got the ball head.

I know everything. That's why you got the ball head. You think you know. You can't tell me something. Keep that crown on your head, man. Covered it up. How many books you got? You gave me one book last week.

If you're going to commit a crime and somehow the police get on you, could you or could you not finish your way out? If you, finessing is that mean trying to talk to the police to lie your way out or whatever the case here. I've always got out without finessing. What did you teach me as a kid? What did you teach me as a kid? Hold on, Pops.

What did you tell me as a kid? You made me learn, even when it came to school teachers, we talk about elementary school. Who? It's going to be a day. Your son, stay this don't come out? Shut up.

You know what I mean? You don't turn it in? He's statement, he's going to come out. What are you going to say then? Who I turned in? What can I say? It's going to come out.

Who? It's going to come out. Give me one. I'm just trolling. I don't, I don't, I don't know what I'm going to say. Woody. Or even talk to him? Huh?

Woody. You know how often I see or even talk to him? How often? On Thanksgiving. That's it. Why are you guys not closer? Because he don't know not the church's way? I'll be everywhere.

What do you mean why we're not closer? Listen to me. Your son, like, why don't you guys talk more? Do it take a rocket scientist? I don't, I'll be moving. We came in close, close. So whatever he got to do, whatever he's doing, he's doing.

It's his life. Do you think when your father passes that you're going to regret not spending time on? Oh, I'm kind of, he taught me young, dealing with death. The only time death really affects me is when the pecking order is off. Like it's a young kid or whatever. Children are naturally, the pecking order is right.

They're supposed to bury their parents. Right. You know, your parents were to bury their parents. The pecking order got thrown off of him because he had to bury his son. You get what I'm saying? So it's like certain things you, I guess I just have talked to except that one day is going to happen. what did it feel like when your son first went to prison? You know, when he first went to prison or jail?

Either one. Because he didn't know I was in prison until he got out of prison. Yeah, well, when he went to prison. I was there already. When you got locked up, you were already locked up? You got to remember, I'm 16. He ain't thinking his son and fucking solid dad. Right.

So he gets out. I don't know how you filed out. Who told you? Who's going to keep it? I'm saying. Because I don't think you knew when you was in there. No. No, I don't, no, I don't recall.

When he gets out, he thinks it on in Y, he thinks it on in Juvenile Hall or something. They're like, no, he's in solid dad. He's like, what you mean? Can I ask the question? How old are you? 73. How old are you? 48.

My God's good. I mean. I was 25 when I had him. Now, the first one, I got married at 17. and I married his mother a day after she turned 16. So I asked him. So I went back to, so when I went to school, high school, I was under 12th grade as my mother was in. My brother was my big brother was that day high school graduation.

Was it normal to get married in high school at that time? No. Right. No. As a matter of fact, my mama tried her best to send me to Mississippi. Was there any particular reason why you got married so young? Well, I got married. I was in love with his mama.

Oh, okay. I'd been with his mama for over two years. Well, no, three years. But you felt like you couldn't just continue dating her? You wanted to seal the deal even that young? No, it was, for me, it was time. I felt, hey, I always felt like a man. Mm-hmm.

So I felt, I felt, of course, of course, now, if you start looking at numbers, age and numbers you know there was a situation, right? What do you mean by that? Our parents had to sign they wouldn't a sign. They wouldn't assign if there wasn't a situation. She was pregnant.

Yeah, they wouldn't. Got it. That makes sense. So you did 10 years? 10 years it was? No, no. Not saying when you're straight. No.

He was looking at 10 years. He beat that shit. So, Paul, this is my question. saying when you got, like, because you said y'all both was in prison at the same time, right? Yeah, because I wasn't in his prison. He wasn't in here. No, no, I'm not talking about. Both of y'all was in prison, though. Like, you was in one prison? He was in and out, so I was capping Y and all this shit. So he knew I did. He knew I did the Y8 time. I was banging, homie, like, Woody. Listen, I don't mean the chap in the kids, this ain't

to glorify it. Pops to tell you, I was a terrorist. I was banging. All I knew was par rule and that was it. I didn't give a fuck about nothing else. And I don't know how he, I don't know how to see. I had to be told, when he told my, when my oldest son told me, I went in the room one day. And my oldest son said, pop. And so he pointed out all this little stuff, little stuff that his brother had made in prints and shops and stuff. and he says Pops

Zach's a blood that's my oldest brother he said Zach's a blood I said yeah and so because there wasn't no

such thing as bloods and cribs in Pekoyma I know you see when you said blood to me that just meant relative when you said

cuss that meant cousins yeah you got to remember my neighborhood might have started like 83, 84. I can get on this phone right now.

I start banging 89. I can get on this phone right now, and I can call a cousin. He's in Texas now. I can call him. And when he answered the phone, he's going to say, hey, cuss,

because that's my cousin. So the gay man and shit was kind of new to you? It was completely new. He didn't know nothing about it. Were you distressed when you found out that your son was? I put him out the house. Oh, okay.

You was in, when you found out, you was in jail or on the street. No, I was on the street. He came home. Okay, so you was in jail, but you came home? I was about eight or nine at that time. If you're talking about him. You're talking about my brother Zach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got to remember, loco was a blood word at first before Crips was using it. Like my older brother name was Loco whack. Right? This meant crazy whack. That's what it meant. By the time my errant generation come, we ain't jacking the local, we was dogging and all that type of shit.

So I didn't put the local before my name, but it was just Lil Wack. And then as I got into it, I became CK. Wack. Right? And see, I'm learning something now. I don't know. Right?

So you got to, you got to remember. No, this is what it was. No disrespect to my key weight problem, but this is just my growth in it, right? but at that time I my next door neighbor had taught me out of hunt

so I'm hunting rabbits and quails so by the time I'm banging you know we're talking about a body you know that rabbit I got to hit them hind legs so I don't mess to me but if I'm a snitch why are you discussing this with anyway I mean this is past shit but it's 36 years ago that's why I be trying to understand how could you feel comfortable with like speaking

I'm legal no statute of limitations on murder we're still going to get you murdering a rabbit, nigga, we ate that rabbit. Bugs Bunny gone. Red beans and right. Shout out to T. Poli, nigga, and Sylvia Darby. Right. Not, I'm trolling, though. Right. So,

what I'm getting to, the city over there where we came up in, when it was, when there was a lot of black people, where the hustle was there, how it was set up and all, in your day and my day. Is that the same city today? No.

So I say that, to say this. There's one thing about, there's one thing about when we came in, right? When I got to Pecoma, I was four years old. Every Pecoima, you don't go into Pecoma messing

with people. And the reason why is because everybody is connected with each other. We were the first generation that was all born in the South and brought to California. They was born

in California. So what I'm saying is A whole different trip. I don't know about your neighborhood because you're from the South. A lot of these neighborhoods out here, a lot of these neighborhoods, they don't want to tell you the truth.

But that ain't the neighborhood I grew up in. The projects, as we called them the Knoms, them ain't the Knoms. Them motherfuck is clean. They got the marble tops, granite countertops. Nothing is what it used to be.

So when I be hearing these people say, why you don't come over here Why you don't do this? But what the fuck are you coming to? Because that ain't the place I know. It's just not. It's like... But Quim ain't even the place I know.

You get what I'm saying? Now, some youngsters growing up, because they trapped there. That's what they know. But any given day, like our part, you go through there, be 100, 150, 80 people through there. Any given day, on the Sunday, it's packed.

You go through there on the busiest day. You might catch eight-month-th-in-in-in-in. See, they don't like to tell the truth. And it's like, it's gone, and it's going away. On top of that, a lot of these hood days, right? Only a dummy will go to a hood day.

I hate to say it. Right? You pay attention. These phones, it's live. That's a wiretap. Some of these killers who then got caught the night before

is wearing wires. They're reporting. Your enemies know that this is where you at. They've been waiting to get you all year. Like, it just doesn't make logical sense for me to ever put myself in a trick bag. I just can't do it. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm telling the kids, don't fall up under the peer pressure. I'm telling you you got to be somewhere. If you feel that ain't where you need to be, if you feel that ain't the safest place for you to be, don't never go somewhere because somebody telling you to go somewhere. You know this, Woody, from what you come from. You ain't never going to be where they think you're going to be. Right. You get what I'm saying?

So, you know, don't fall to the peer pressure that. What has it been like for you to see your son become successful? in the music industry after, you know, obviously earlier in his life, you probably were very worried about what his future was going to be like. I'm still worried about him. Yeah. I pray for him all the time. Every morning and every night. I'm always praying.

But it seems like he's achieved quite a bit of success, too, right? Yeah, well, I'm proud of him. See, I'm proud of him because regardless, it's still me. Right. it's an extension so I'm proud you got to stop running your pot man

I'm proud I was proud I've been proud of all four of my children even though because I might as well shoot even though I was only a small portion

I gave them what I gave them what I had but now okay but now you know on the run I took a little turn. If I was in prison, I had to take a left turn. But I thank God that I came back,

that he allowed, that he gave me enough life to come back, to come back. You will never catch none of my sons walking around like this, walking around like they were, no matter what the position is because they was taught to be generals. Oh, no, I ain't never followed that, no. Even when I joined that, I created another click within that.

I went in, when you followed that. I got a question now that you got on there because I kind of felt that a lot. And I seen Adam going viral because somebody got to drop your flage. and I think Stilelish P or something. And a fan of my Tio Green, he showed me the stuff and I liked it.

But I see it's like a controversy going on between you and Stilish P. No, no, no, no. First of all, let me answer this. You got some cats out of his styles P ain't from no gang for one. So he ain't got the right. He ain't got the right rank of respect to say nothing going on out here. He's clowning 6'0-7-0. We got this other crazy mother-fool.

Where's dude they from 6-0? The crazy do. Stu Boy Blue. Stude Boy Blue, right? So Adam then took two, three people who was supposed to be from the streets and clown him. Stude Boy blew the one that the female exposed

the nigger put a phantom bottle up his ass. Bloop. In real life? In real life. On the FaceTime, she put it out. You know, this nigga 607, he tell you, you, you GD, B, D, Vice Lord. So he starts off since, yeah, I'm GD, B, D, Lord.

I got to drop my flag. I'm tired of paying rent. Putting fana bottles up my ass, so I'm dropping my flag. We know he's clowning certain people. You get this dude out here who ain't from neither side. Hey, homie, you see my homeboy doing the drop your flag challenge. This dude, Hogan's 4'5. Adam don't know no goddamn Hocus 4thip.

Hogan's 4thip got a fresh Rico nigger out of Georgia right now. But what is that for? Sex money murder. It's a sex money murder Rico out of Georgia. He got it freshly. six months ago. So now, and you know better than this, man, them fans don't give a damn about what flag you drop now.

They're busting your ass for the flag they caught you with, right? So now he's saying, we're doing a drop your flag challenge, right? Okay, cool. That's your business, right? You got a re-go. If you think that's going to do you some good, cool. I think what Hokies' Fulpip is doing is, I'm dropping my flag now.

So when I go tell on these niggas, I can say, I ain't up under no flag. But what if he's not doing it that way? What if he actually learned a lesson and he really, let's just say they just hypothetically say they feel to take him away for Elver, right? What if he's just trying to stop people for taking their Pelf that he wants to?

That nigger wasn't doing none but fraud. And they bust in his ass because the fraud he did was for the betterment, you understand this language, the betterment of the game. Sex, money, murder, they got these niggas for drug and murders and all. all kind of shit, and he's doing fraud, right, with them. So they're saying you are assisting in and helping them commit these crimes.

You from sex, money, murder, this is what they're alleging on this man, right? So now he's saying, I'm doing the drop your flag challenge. That's cool. That's something you're doing in New York. We don't drop no flags out here. I'm not a gangbanger, but we ain't dropping, from where I'm from. Dropping the flag is a PC move out here. L.A.

We don't do, that's like, I can't think of anybody really who's, like, formally denounced where they're from, aside from people who leave in disrepute, like snitching, primarily. Let me speak outside. Apparently, it's a little different. Yeah, let me speak outside of L.A. Listen, though, let me speak outside of L.A. People in L.A. granddaddies and grandma canisters. That's the part. Where we're from?

That's not the case. Yeah, some new shit. That's right. So what I'm saying is, you know, that challenge could apply to those of us who knew that we ain't grew up in that household. What I'm saying is he wasn't even talking about this bosa. I'm saying, but I ain't know he was trolling them. See that dude over there right there, come a day, my homeboy right there. It's one of my right hands, my homeboy right there, come a day, God willing, he's going to be able to say what I say.

They hear me say I don't gang bang all the time. They don't pay it. Well, they had never heard me say, I drop my flag. We don't say that. That's a PC move. We just say, when I tell you, I don't gang bang, I don't wake up hating the Crip or looking to do something because we see it motherfuck in blue. He was it. We don't go, who you is, what your name is, right?

That ain't been me. It's been for a long time, right? I'm fine. You are. But when we say dropping your flag out here, that's like PC, you got put off. ran off. So we're not even going Adam understands our dialect. Turn that down, Popper.

Adam understands our dialect, period. So when he hears, drop your flag. If you listen to what he's saying, because Dals P ain't tapped in us, he could have been clowning you and he would have thought, right? You know, we had clouded. Now, now that you said it, because I did see one clip when Adam was like on GDVD.

So I knew he was told him since. But the narrative, like, and I have respect for styles being. I'm not disrespecting him, but the narrative that they decided that they want to spin from that was Adam is saying that if you stop being a gang member, then you are gay. And he's

clowning, listen, he's clowning the other dude. Like, it's really footage. The chick got him FaceTime doing that shit. So when he says it, we know what he's talking about because he just had him on the show. Your dude you had when he was sitting here looking crazy with all the taps on his face,

stew boy blew, he a fool, right? But you, on the other hand, you understand that it's different. The East Coast game banging. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't even deal with it. No, you just explain it. You just like, like how you say, drop your flag.

Drop your flag. It's a piece of shit on the West Coast. But on the East Coast, you know what I mean? They don't see it that way. I don't get fuck how they see it. But I know what I'm saying. Like Adam said, okay, in Adam eyes, he ain't being disrespectful or anything.

And these people are eyes over here for kids in the South. They don't want a gang bang, but scared. They can be taking this as in, man, he told me what right, but then with Adam's saying, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's confusing. First of all, Adam ain't no gangbanger. But also, anybody who's ever watched me interview gang members knows that I'm not someone who's like encouraging them. Hey, you can never stop being a gang member. You got to go slide.

You got to kill somebody. That is just not the kind of shit that I would ever tell somebody. Even if I get it. I know how their world works. I know that that shit goes on, but I would never be sitting here telling somebody you got to do that. That's like the last thing. about Hocus, would he never mention sex money murder? He said, I'm GDVD, vice lord.

And you know what? I'm tired of getting pressed every day. Now, but to see what? Hocus was just mad because he started the challenge, which I didn't know because I didn't even know who he was. He didn't know this dude is. He's a bozo. No, I'm saying, but see how you just explained it?

That he trolled, he so, son, uh, and the other guy. So now he's like, oh, okay. Now you may make sense. Yeah, he wasn't even talking about them. He never mentioned crib blood. He never mentioned none of that. So when they took off on him, all they, See, well, I got a problem with Stiles Piz

when he said, all you niggas are no jumper that's sitting on the side of him. Y'all in violation. I sit on the side of him maybe weak. Who you're talking to? Nicky, you ain't nobody. Nicky, you went to jail for stabbing somebody in the ass cheeks. Bust-ass, nigga.

You're in the motherfucking club. How do you know everybody being, man? I got the paperwork. I do remember that. I got the paperwork. No, that was in the source of all that shit back in the day. Anytime I get into it with somebody, the people that don't like you,

they're going to say any. They send it to me. Right? So you on the club, you got a problem with a nigga. You're walking up behind him. You got neck, head, back, ribs, bicep, ankle, calf. You hit a nigga in the butt cheek. You're trying to get away.

You hit a nigga to glutes. And then the nigga left it. The nigga left a knife in the butt sheet. The nigga had his prints and everything on the shank. So my thing is, I'll fucking. I fuck with the group. I fuck with Jay the kids. I fuck with the group.

But like, nigga, don't never call me out on nothing. You ain't qualified. You ain't got the right. You ain't no Crip. You ain't no blood. Nick, don't mention my name.

Say, hey, Adam, white boy. We don't like you speaking on our culture. That's cool, right? I didn't deal with that. You know, we ain't going to you long as you don't come around here around us, trying to do nothing to him. We cool.

But don't get to thinking you something. You are a rapper, nigger, who went to jail for stabbing another man in his glutes. So, way he's supposed to win the jail for. He stabbed the nigger in the ass cheek. Nigger, you know what I'm saying? I want to do these zone.

Think about it. He had to hold me in on it. Watch this man's butt. Walk up on it. Position itself and then aim for the butt. He's standing. And then.

Ah. Left the knife there. And left the knife in this, nigga. That's he throwing out of the hoop. You know what I'm saying? You know what I do you on? That's that other part. You know, I do you?

I stalk you. I walk up on you. And then I... Stab you in the booty. Well, she's a woman. This nigga styles Pete. You're all I'm saying like, bro, I don't want to hear none of that gangst shit

you'll be talking on your music and none of that. Shout out to Jada kids. He told her, nigga, I ain't never been to jail. I understand the streets and I rap about the streets. But you had no right to try to insert me, Aunt Haffa, Munchy B, the peanut butter bandit, because you said all the street niggas,

That's the street niggas in the bill next to Adam, talking about what we better and all the, bro. You ain't nobody like that, bro. It's just funny that he's like, he felt the need to say that these people shouldn't even be willing to sit next to me over a joke that he didn't get. But niggas is sitting next to you and you homeed in on a man's cakes. Nigger,

you're a sord of a nigger ass to you probably the only rapper in history who homed in and booked the nigger's booty. He booked the nigga in the booty, bro. Man, we got to come together, man. Stop the guidelines, man. That's what he thought. That's what he was mad at. They came together.

Who came together? The cheeks. The cheeks. He got the right to be. I ain't never had no problem with this dick, but don't, don't shoot no torpedoes at me, bro. You're a great rapper and all that cool. Think you got one gold album. a whole motherfucking life.

Great. Like 25 years ago. Salute. Salute to Jay to Kiss. He's one of my favorites. Salute to me. I love what y'all did for my brother Kay Slay. But, nigga, don't you ever in your life think you got the right rank of respect or to reach to demand we do anything out here when you don't even know what you're talking about?

That's just like us reaching into your backyard. Y'all hear a lot of shit that we say and you know it's some different shit going on. Like, nigga, you don't even know. you're talking about. But you get what I'm saying? I don't blame Stiles P. I feel like he just watched Hocus talking about it and he believed the version of it that Hocus was putting out there and Stiles P just went with it.

And then he got like, Fad Joe commented the 100 emoji on his shit. I'm like, damn, I'm big canceled out here. And these fools don't even get it. They don't even get the joke. Yeah, it's a joke. If you look at the comment section on the post, it's like mad gangsters all not from New York from Chicago and the West Coast and shit

all laughing at it. but these guys like they got a little bit of main character syndrome and this dude the only reason why he's doing it is because he got a recall he the only one out everybody else is in there they let him out no they let he's out everybody else is in there so at the end of the day you know cool bro i give what you're trying to do

you was just running around lots of bust the shit he was doing he was finding predators right sexual predators right and calling the police on him but nigga you talk about you from the streets, sex, money, murder, nigga, you, you know what I'm saying? What you called? His homies was not jacking that. They was like, hey, bro, you really going on here, calling the police on people.

That ain't what we do. If we're going after a sexual predator, we handle that a different way that you stop or handling the way it's supposed to be handled. He didn't drop his flag back then. What, if you can't answer, what was the purpose of gangs? Well, they started off originally

out here to protect the community. Explain it. Okay, back then they had white gangs and spook hunters and shit like that. Well, they were snatched black people going to and from school and all that. Look this shit up, spook hunters and shit like that. Now, we got to go deep into inner city, L.A., comp, and Watts, right? So the gangs was, it was sectioned all based upon where people live. As time went on and conflict, conflict started like the Paroo.

with Paru Boys was just the brothers that lived on Paru Street. You know what I'm saying? It didn't start off a red or blue thing at all. You get what I'm saying? But as time went on, the Crips was here, right? The drug game came into play. So now we're talking about territory. Who hustling who?

Who controlling what block? And I think if I ain't mistaken, the first Paroo conflict in Compton, which I'm not from Compton for McCormer was with a Crip behind a leather jacket. And from that leather jacket beef, nigga, it'd been thousands and thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of convictions, right? But it was youngsters doing what they did.

Well, you look at Raymond Washington and Tuki Williams, right? The people they say founded the Crips, Tuki Williams was with the death row. I don't know if he was high, but he went to a grocery liquor store and he murdered an Asian family. He was high on that piece. For $420. While he was in death row, he started writing children's books to, you know, he wanted to break the cycle.

So I'm wondering why, you know, they didn't follow that, right? They're not going to follow that. But that was, he got putting an electric chair 2005, took he being dead close to 20 years now, right? So that's how it started. It was just groups of people in different communities. and then when the money start flowing, the dope start flowing, women is like you're going to protect your block.

Like, I believe you're from Mechanicsville, right? That's your community. You get what I'm saying? It's probably something down the road or the next city over, right? That's their community. So Mechanicsville was to set up something over there, right? Whatever it is, y'all.

Let's go back to where it was some dope going on back in the day. And the niggas from the next community come over there and try to set up on the block, y'all not going for it. Mm-hmm. So from that, it's violence comes from that. And then from that,

the beef starts, you know, they hit, they hit, before you know it, it's bodies on both sides. But what we got to do, we have to hit reset.

Everybody then lost somebody to some type of violence. So you have to rationalize and say, well, I might be next. My mama might be driving on the street in the middle of day with them high beams on

in that hearse next. So let's stop. Everybody didn't took their loss. Let's stop, reset, and bring it back together. This white dude that passed away, Charlie Kirk, they mad at me because I said, I appreciate what he did for us. Although his numbers were a little off, he said some things that made me go check. Hold on, wait. Blacks represent 13% of the country.

Now, he said we're responsible for 55% of the violence. Numbers is all. It's still a high 3840. That's still high. So because of what he said in the mirror he put in front of us, it made me go look and realize we need to stop this shit. 13%. Now remember that 13% include the elderly and the newborn babies. So it's really probably about 8% of us that's contributing to 40% of the violence. Right? I don't care what they're doing. We really need to check ourselves. And believe it or not,

This is a situation right here. That's an example. Because the old me, it would have to be some violence with me and you. You're going to get hurt. You get what I'm saying? I beat your little ass back in the day. You're a little bitty-ass, dude. Bald on, bald violence.

They say the bigger you hear, the heart of you fall. No, no, listen. Listen, Woody. You can't fight. I just beat up a motorcycle, bro. What is you talking about? No, the motorcycle beat you up. Look at you.

I'm alive. The motorcycle whipped your ass. I'm at the motorcycle not. motorcycle in the shop that motorcycle is in $289. It's total. You probably snitched on a motorcycle to the insurance company. And so wet.

I'm here the motorcycle ain't. Are you talking about an action motorcycle with wheels? And not a nigger-ranked motorcycle. Hey, listen, I got a serious question for you. If you had to give thought, one advice about this whole situation and how to move forward, what would it be? Leave your little answer alone. I know that's right.

What was that? You didn't give me no doubt. First time, you're going to leave my anger to it? You can give me some knuckles, pops. You got to get permission for this? Let me tell you. That son,

that son ain't going to stand the chance walking out. The stuff I don't did, he ain't, he won't stand the change. You know, this nigga, please. This nigga, tap a lot.

He ain't got no idea. I tell you some of these stories. Boy, I was just coming. Listen to me, bro. You're going to lose your eyebrows. Bro, you was running up under thug. I never ran up under that.

You got told what to do. Never. Let me ask you a question. Nobody tell me what to do. I got a serious question for you, though. I'm going to ask you a question. Man. Did Thug ever give you an order while wearing the dress?

I never in my entire life seeing Thorpe wear a dress in person. In person. How you know was he ever on the phone saying what the dress on? Hey, Woody, woo-hoo. Hey, I need to go over there and ride down on them niggas. If Thurt would say, Woody, go over there, not wet head. I would say, how you want it? Tempt fade, boost it fade.

I'd have told you getting line. You know what I mean. The niggins and tried that. No, no, I'm trolling, but now, all just aside, bro, thought it was a good person. You feel what I'm saying? He never ordered me to go do anything. I wasn't the type to go do anything, you can say, as you, my nigger, if I find out something going on, you just going to hear about it. Facts.

I mean, we know all that go. Yeah, no, I'm just saying, because a lot of people don't understand. A lot of people don't need platforms and they be talking. I just be laughing at me. I ain't got to talk about it. You know, I'm not out. You're a little slow, so he don't take you sales. You can't tell.

I took three, four pills over there. You just seen me take them. I know, but he said he don't, I thought it was paying pills because you're looking like the pink path over there. I'm looking like a survival right now. Listen, he said you was a little slow, so he didn't take you serious. What impression you get? You ain't slow at all.

You know exactly what you're doing. That's how I knew you knew when you was telling. So I got to pee. I got a pee. Convenient. Well, before we get off here, I'm a call this. I'm John to.

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm here. But anyway, I guess you came down for me to speak on this fellow here, right? Let me know about you, me, whatever. Tell us what your official verdict is. Give him the goods, pops. Okay, listen, I'm proud of him for everything that he went through. When he was in prison, I was a proud dad. that's right

you know why because he came out my son and the way I told him that he had you know what I told him I told him wherever you're at always be a man for sure don't lose that now

he's home so dirt pops they want to know like when I got robbed when I was a kid give him the story oh you been robbed I got jacked as a kid oh oh oh nigga nigger ain't never Oh, he was in first grade. I was in first grade. Man, y'all stopped playing so much, man.

Go on. Listen, my brothers took the bus. Oh, hold on. I got robbed in first grade. You remember Sturz when you was in first grade? Hell yeah, we lined them niggas up. I remember stuff when I was three. We lined them up.

Okay, listen, this is what happened. He was going to school. He was going to a Lutheran school, and he had to catch the city bus. He had to catch the city bus. So he started coming home. He wasn't looking home. looking right. I said, man, what's wrong with you? He didn't want to tell me, but then when he

told me, he told me two Hispanic guys, which was in junior high. 15 and 15 and 60 was taking his lunch money. Oh, shit. Was taking his lunch money. It wouldn't be the first time. Well, now. It wouldn't be the last time.

I thought you didn't know it got bullied. Hold it. Okay. I did. Hold it. This turned out good. Check it out. This is what happened. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so this is what happened. So, of course, I couldn't jump on him.

I'm old. I'm probably, what, 30, 32. I can't jump on. But I put his two brothers on that bus. I was on that bus. I put his two brothers on that bus. And when those two got out, They got off at different intervals.

One got off here, and the other one, I mean, got on here, another one got on over here. And then I said, Cash, do you see the two guys that been taking your money? Cash said, yeah. He said, these two, now, well, I'm not going to even say that. The one guy starts snitching on the other guy.

In his face. Right there. So I told them, I said, now, y'all look at his face and look at their face. They got pretty much the same face as he got. So today, they're going to take care of you. And I told them, I told them that you better, y'all better. My oldest son, he kind of sentimental. He didn't really want to, because, you know, Spanish.

people kind of got a small statute. So, but I told them you better beat the hell out of them. That's what happened. That taught me how to plot playing and execute. I learned how to set a motherfucker up from that. Yeah. Because what happened was...

I know you about to set me up when I leave him. Why would I do that? I'm funny about the blood of Jesus saying. Okay, but, anyway, okay, but anyway... Okay, but anyway... I'm good at that. I know you want to know why I was so proud of him in his prison state, right? Because I heard all the reports that I got, even though he was 16, 17,

all the reports that I got, he was a man. He didn't lose. And all his partners say, hey, hey, Mr. Jones, man, I've seen him. son I was down there. He said, man, I love him. He said, but I don't want to do no time with him. He said, man, when dude comes on the yard, all hell breaks loose.

I'll go to some bush. I was fucked up. I can honestly say, I was fucked up, bro. When he come on the yard. So in other words, he came on the yard being what? A general. Just as he had been tall. Well, I don't wish that shit on none of these kids. Yeah.

You know how hard it is? I think you know to talk yourself out of doing the shit that's real easy for you to do. It used to be hard. It's not hard anymore. It's hard for me. Yeah, I do it every time. I see it with this building. The one thing that I use to talk myself out of it is my respect for Adam.

Who you want to do something to do here? Also, a few motherfuckers. Why, you crazy as above it? I didn't have people say shit with my name. But you know, man. Down here. That I... No, it's one thing for a motherfucker to be on social media.

You got to remember, I'm not from South Central. Nigger, my project's four miles down the street. I ain't got to get on the freeway. So, right? So when you see motherfuckers on the live, I understand the build. It's alive, think of y'all there. Right? You're going to be there for two, three hours, right?

You know how hard it is for me not to do no slick shit? I only don't do it out of respect to Adam. This is, I'm going to be real. But the only reason why I don't... Because some people, I think they come from an error to where they don't understand what it really is. But I think it's a test because I'd be having so much shit going on. I think that if I abused that, it'll block my blessing on everything else. So I respect my brother and I just, I ignore it.

Then I love my woman. Thank you, Wreck. You know what I'm saying? No, this is a, she, R&B, you've not seen me jump up, but a few times and I didn't caught myself like, I didn't literally jumped up, nigga, like, fin a move when I catch myself. Life is a test. I ain't nothing.

I got a blind, nigga, where 140 pounds be disrespecting my name. Man, a nigga will put the drums. I don't give a fuck. Who with him? Nigel, you down here slipping. Your neighborhood is 25, 30 minutes over there. You ain't strong enough

and your bag ain't big enough to be set up the way we moved back in them days, right? So I just sit back and I don't say nothing. But you said some powerful things, my nigga? You have to understand this, bro, like, for real, for real. When you walk through that door, I felt your energy. I said, I like that, nigga. I said it before even though when we talked on the phone.

I used to tell my dad, this, that nigga, way, cool. Despite people I don't watch, don't trust what this. I mean, I go off what I see with people. But I say this, just say this, bro. The key thing you say, you say, a blind man. But you say, you know what you'll do to somebody, right? Yeah. So that's me.

When people are kicking and mess with me all day, I be saying myself, someone I work this, motherfucker. I gotta use it. Y'all gonna be crying, oh, my baby. Now, real talk. So it's like this, my nigga. Once I know this, I'm willing to go, I gotta tell myself, would it?

It ain't worth it. That's a fact. You on the way? No, I know. I knew before you, right? Because I didn't been there, right? So I ignore a lot of shit, but I'm kind of in that space of why I could laugh about it. This is therapy.

When I started doing this podcast and what I had him, it was therapy. to even sit on the side of him because I don't say some crazy shit. You know he'll mean no long. I had to mentally learn how to adjust to that. And he helped me believe it or not when I'm dealing with other things in the world. So when I

won't cross it, I don't react to it. You get what I'm saying? Like, a lot of shit that people do, some people that smart will put theirself in an uncomfortable situation so they can see if they mature enough to find their comfort. I did attack dogs. I did it.

the time because this motherfucker to say some crazy shit. But, you know, we know Adam know better. But as a friend though, it's always sometimes, even if you have to do it on live to tell Adam like, hey, Adam, you know, it's some people that disagree with

that, you know what I mean? Let's try not to play that much like that. So that, you know what I mean, Adam won't ever have to feel like his life is at risk. Because when people see that, they'll understand that, you know, Adam just trolling. Adam just trolling. Adam don't do, probably when it comes to our people, he don't get up in the gang politics.

He gave us a chance. He brings us on a year. He don't be off into that shit like that. I feel like I've done a very good job of not offending like L.A. street dudes. Chicago on the other hand. Chicago has been a little bit.

You do gas like shit. A little bit of a different story. You start shit. Like you start shit in that news. You're a cold. What happens? I got a question for you. What's the most blackish thing you ever did?

Blackish. What is blackish? define blackish. Yeah, like, what do black people do? I don't know. You know what we do? You be out of 24-self? I'm trying to think of like what the...

Well, however you look at us. I mean, probably you just asking, what's the craziest thing you ever did? Why got to be blackish? What's a black thing? Because a black thing is how certain people look at us. No, no, no, no. I asked Adam because it was like, no, because he's like, know how people would be looking at the

West name. So I asked him what's the most blackest thing you ever did. But he don't act black. He acts like Adam the white boy. No, he do. But they're saying. I ain't never seen out of black black. Man, shit. I can see Elm. I ain't seen no black any. I just heard Remo say he'd be back there banging the girls in the back room. That's a

black thing. I don't think doing porn is a black thing. No, no, no. So you're doing porn in the building why everybody else's working? Yeah, that's part of the business. That's part of the business. You didn't know that? To me, that's black talk is in the black. We clear out all the employees. Everybody's welcome to not come in on those days.

And we kind of keep everything separate. No, no. They don't have to like watch me bang now. You will, though. Oh. So you want to go back then and have a whole set? Oh, you're married. I want to go, my dad, my dad.

No. How he knows is I don't even watch. He does it with his wife out of respect because I respect his wife so much. I have never even watched this shit. I won't do it. I, on the other hand, have created AI porn of him in the R&B.

Why did I get you? I'm selling it on the dark web right now. Everybody's job, yeah. Are you happy that your son seems to have found love, even if it was not his initial marriage? They talk all the time. Oh, yeah?

Really? R&B and New York, they talk all the time. Seems like he's found a new lease on life with this new lady, young lady. Dude, I thought he found love with the first one. Oh, okay. I got one. I guess we're going to close it up, but I got one.

I'm going to give you my motto. My motto is called the elimination of bad possibility theory. That's my... I remember that one more time. The elimination a bad possibility. The elimination of bad possibility. Yeah, let me tell you how it worked. I first try to think of all of the bad possibilities.

Now, this is what I used. used to do enough. I didn't kind of revive it a little bit. I think of

all of the bad possibility if I'm going to do something of what the bad

or what could happen. That way to that way when something happened, I don't

be talking about would or shoulda. So the elimination of bad possibility,

you think of all of the bad possibilities and try to eliminate

that bad possibility. Now the one thing that I'm not going to take from the possibility is don't do it. Oh, no, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. But I don't eliminate it when we, the only way we got out of Louisiana was behind the elimination of bad possibility.

You know, the crazy part about it, he just said some crazy shit, right? because you asked him about R&B and then he said well I thought he was in love with the first one which is a pretty hilarious thing to say no but this was crazy

well shit nigga I thought you was in love with the first one but you left her hey hey hey listen niggas he didn't ask you about the first one he asked you about her

he asked you about her he said how to you feel about her of my life. I mean, I feel I feel wonderful about it because

I'm still on the thing with still on the thing of this. If you like it, I love it. No, that ain't true. You missed it. He said, I am proud of who my son is today. No, no. No, they ain't going to do it. No, 20 minutes ago. This is why this ain't true.

Because I've never seen you interact. with my son's mother, the way you interact with R&B. Okay. And you've been knowing her 30 years, 30-some years. Okay. I can answer that. But I answer that.

I answer the phone. No, no, no. He liked your first decision. No, I did. He like your, no way he said, I got you. No, you didn't get you. You don't know what he didn't have you. I heard what you're saying.

You're saying whatever choice, he makes your standing behind him. Yeah. Okay. That had nothing to do with my choice. Yeah. I feel like they talk enough. Okay. I want to know what to think about.

Okay, let me. It wasn't a general question. It was a herb. Okay, let me answer that portion of it. That portion of it is that the first one never interacted with me. The first one never had much of nothing. she has never called me she never asked me

no questions nothing this one her name is R and B okay this one yeah well I get that initials mix up but I'm gonna get it before too long

because we interacts R and B R and I noticed that A N N N and B no okay with her

she'll call me with her. She, she, she, she, she, she acts happy to see you and to know you. The first one, she, that one just didn't, uh, she didn't, uh, she didn't care. What you mean she didn't care? She, she, she never acted as though she ever really cared. Whether or not. Do you remember your first interaction with her? Yeah.

With my kids' mother? Yeah. Where was it? The first one? Yeah. I came out to see the baby. No. You came out of 7-Eleven.

She was in my El Camino. I might have been about 15, 16, before I went to YA, and you told her, you told her you ought to take that car from her. No, I didn't tell you. definitely told her that. No, I didn't tell her that. You don't want to even go through that story, but I didn't tell her that. What'd you tell her?

I didn't tell her nothing. You said something. I didn't tell her nothing. I didn't tell her. You don't recall saying her in the 7-Eleven? No, it wasn't at the 7-Eleven? What was it? It was at Odell's house.

No, no, no, that's, and that's what I was. I was at Odell's house. And me and you was at Odell's house. No, that's why I ran into you. You ran into me at Odell's house. And I asked you why did you say something to my... I didn't say nothing to her. I never said nothing to her.

That's not even like me to say anything to her because it was not her responsibility. So you really don't remember. No, you don't remember... You don't remember asking you that? I know. I know you getting to twist it because you wanted to jump on me that night. Damn right. Yeah, you wanted to...

Oh, ho, ho! You want to fight your pops? Yeah, he wanted to fight me. He'd got what he'd have got his... Listen. But toe up down. I wouldn't tolerate no disrespect from nobody. Not even pops.

Sounds good. Sounds good. My ass. Hey, let me tell you. We wasn't... Hey, look, since he didn't brought this up, I might as well. Shoot, I might... We might as well.

It feels like we just found out of way into, like, a very serious family discussion. No. What I'm saying is, that's her memory. Hey, look, we might as well. put it on the table. We might as well bring it out raw. I was at Odell. I wasn't at no 7-Ele.

I wasn't even in condition or position to be at a 7-Ele. You came over to Odell and your partners and stuff was there. Your partners was there. And I told you what I actually, I said, hey, I want to, can we talk, but not right now. You said, you said, oh, oh, anything I got to say, I said, these are my boys. I can say, you can ask with my squad. Yeah.

Yeah. And so, shoot, so you was talking to, shoot, too, too. And you said, no, tell me now. And so I told you. I even remember every word that you said when I told you. I said, I said, cash. I said, any place that she wants to go, you should take her. I said because she should not be driving that vehicle.

And you said, uh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Dicke, you ain't brought my car? I sure didn't. I sure didn't. I was already doing my face. Shoot, shoot, I should. How you go all of a sudden turned into dad? Hold it.

Hold it. I'm going to tell you. Because I told you that night. I told him that night. I said, look, I said, look, if anything happens in that car, that the responsibility is going to be on me

and your mother. Nick, you weren't worried about nothing happening ever. Yeah, I know. You was irresponsible. What are you talking about? That's right. Now you all of a sudden worrying about responsibility. Hey, they're going to run around this mother having three shootouts a day.

Doing it all I want to do it. He ain't telling me nothing about that. But you want to sweat my little girlfriend but driving my buffing car. We're talking about an error with wasn't no insurance. Insurance didn't matter. We didn't know what that was.

This is what you told me. Now, you come at me similar like that and you told me that I wasn't, that I didn't have nothing. I wasn't going to never have, I wasn't going to never have. nothing, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Fine. And this is what I told him. I told him it doesn't, I said it doesn't matter. You is our responsibility and how. How was I your responsibility? I'm your no good daddy. How was on your

responsibility when you never took responsibility? Regardless. But we're talking, okay. Now watch this. Nick, I'm running with my team at the time. So we ain't tolerated. I don't get fucking. So you guys gonna jump your pipe?

Nick, we're gonna do whatever we got to do. Nigger, we was banging. To the baby gay guy. On Paul Roo, we're knocking the, like, this is a fact. Hey, wait a minute. Hey, wait a minute.

He know, niggas wasn't playing. He no, asked he was my team playing. Was he playing? I don't know nothing about it. Was my crew playing? Wait, hold on, what? Was my crew playing? I didn't know nothing.

You knew everything about what was going on. You know, what's a PGPB. When we pulled up, hold on. When my squad pulled up, niggas moved. Hey, but now watch this. There's a fact. He told me to come out that gate. I didn't come out the gate.

You know why I didn't come out of the gate? Why didn't come out of the gate? The reason why I didn't come out the gate because I didn't want to kill it. Oh, okay. One of us was going to die. That's a fact. One of us was going to die.

Bro, here go to thank. Say thank you. I bet you this. I bet you this. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I bet you this. I bet you this. Hey, look, let me tell you.

I bet he never told him by driving that car again. But I didn't have to. You already had it. Look, let me tell you. Look, I've seen him. He was already getting, he kept easing towards the car. He was easing toward the car. I was already back there.

We were strapped. There wasn't no fucking car. Oh, you, pops. Bro, anybody could get it. But listen, nigg. Listen to what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not these little dudes, bro. He didn't watch me do his own partners.

Nicker don't play in no games. I ain't never seen you. Listen. What about that weird ass nigga by Gary House? Playing. Listen, I don't listen. I ain't never seen you do nothing. I heard a lot of stuff that you get.

Listen. Why don't want nobody? Listen, Woody. What nobody playing? We ain't playing today. I saw him one time by the noms, right? I saw him one time by the noms. The, the, the, the apartments he'd be talking about?

I don't talk about it. It ain't the noms no more. Yeah, I know. Them, as nice as a mother fuck. Yeah, yeah, sure is. Ain't no graffiti on the wall or nothing. Yeah, sure is. Uh-huh, yeah, but now, he offering me a ride.

I got in the car. I gets in the car, and he said, where you want to go, Pop? I shoot him. He's sitting up. He had to be, what, 13? He had to be about 13. I was driving the cat like that. It was severe. Yeah. Yeah, he had to be about 13, 14. With a cut?

Nickle what? Yeah. Listen, I'm not like these niggas, man. So, so when I get in the car, he reached down and he pulls up a Glock and he says, American Express, I don't leave home without it. I said, let me out.

God, we wrote laps right back then. I said, let me out. He said American Express, I don't leave home without. I don't leave home. Well, you know, that's what America is. It's just like the kind of shit he would say right now. It's like so on point. Yeah.

So I got out. Another, shoot, another little old story, me and his mother was in that same Seville. We was going to Bob's and, and, and we went, and we went down into Pamorama City. I told you about Jebby. That's why you're going to put work in it at. It's like you're going to the next from your project. The Pomerama City.

We went down there looking for Bob's apartment, my oldest son's place, and this Cadillac came up. It had about four or five people, about four or five people in it. And when they saw that car, everybody in that, Calac hit the death and I said to myself I ain't getting in this car

I appreciate y'all I got to run You're out? Yes sir I appreciate you off at me I hope you all Woody thank you for pulling up Woody got armed LAPD security

over there Like that's who telling me at the gun No I'm just with you're brother right One's saying about the people who seem Woody State to state City to city I move with God Peace blesses you y'all

That's who I move with, brother. God and Gumby. God and Gumby. You see what Gumby? You only made Gumby. Gumby's a different character. Yo, thank you so much for coming on. All right.

And thank you for having me. As much as your son may be a controversial figure out here, he's definitely also an inspiring figure to a lot of people out here. So I got to say, good work. Thank you. On the hall. His pops got pardoned by Bill. with a different type of

politics. Oh, yeah. On the real, though, that's some white privilege. You know what's crazy? All my aunts and uncles are still alive. And you're not the oldest. You're not the oldest. I'm the third child. Joyce is who's oldest? Joyce or Diane? Diane. She's 70 what? Diane is 76 now.

Joyce is 70. She'll be 75 next month. You 73. I'll be 74 December. Ray is. No, no, I see three. Ray is what? Ray is 70. 70 and Bert 60?

You don't count. No. That's the younger brother's younger brother. Don't count. Bird. All my aunts and uncles are still alive. Shout out to my aunts and uncles. Bird is 50.

I, Joyce, I, Ray, Diane. Uncle Bert, who taught me how to drive trucks. Yep. My aunt, Ray. Yeah, shout out to the family. Yeah, Bert 58. I'm 15 years older than Bert. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be here.

I don't know what my grandparents was doing. They had one of them nights. They had one of them nights. And 40 popped a kid out. Should we do episodes with our moms now? Crazy. My mom is the biggest sweetheart ever. You would love her.

I have to mind R&B do that one. I'm scared of moms. Really? Yeah. I'm thinking I'm getting in trouble. I would understand. I did good with your pops. That's the home.

No, it was good. Yeah, there's an extent to which I don't know if I'd want to even put my mom out there like that. She's just so, such a gentle soul. We got a lot of haters, bro. Yeah. We got to protect that. That's true. He seems like he could handle himself.

My pops, man, shit. He knows what time. I come from him. There ain't nothing you can do to get to him. Yeah. Trust that. You were the fastest swimmer in his ball sack. Huh?

It's what crazy. Hey, look, you know what I, know what I told him? I always told him. I always told them that they was, that they was just manifestations of my nuts sack. I didn't come out of theirs. They came out of mine.

No, he would always say, we're not boys. We were men in training. I do remember that. Yeah. And we out. Yeah.