No Jumper - The Adam & Wack Show featuring Charleston White

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Bro, I hate when that happens when I hate, when I was just like looking at Twitter real quick, got a boner. Now I got a boner. I'm sitting here doing a podcast with you. I got a boner. You okay, man? No, I got a bono.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I'm disappointed that it wasn't no fight in this room 20 minutes ago, bro. You think Forrest and Charleston should have got into it? First of all, I text Charleston and totally attack the gangbangers. I'm trying to help you start some shit. And you're in here playing. Okay. Judge Judy and shit.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Here's what happened is that I had on my phone a whole list of all the craziest shit that Charleston's ever said about rolling 40s, Bloods and Crips, Four Extra himself, L.A. as a whole. I didn't really have the balls to, like, bring too much of it to the table because I didn't want to set four extra off too hard. I didn't come in. I said, nah, that's one of them Adam 22 moments. And I'm going to look like rain on this parade. So I just went and chilled out in the news. But I'm like, I know Charleston is not.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The ass of what we know him to be going to let me us down with attacking the gangbangers. Well, but the crazy part about it was that Charleston really kind of met his match in the sense that 4XA is so loud and talks so fast and just like makes it so hard for you to talk that Charleston, like if anything the fans are going to be a little disappointed that he didn't speak as much as they probably wanted. So when you text me, you said,
Starting point is 00:01:34 yo, I got Charleston 4 X's up here. And I know you probably looked at it. I said, I just pulled up on 4 extras on Vernon and Feed yesterday, right? I was wondering what that was about. Why would you do that? So I was on the east side over there, and I seen Vernon Avenue. And I don't get what nobody says in the world.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We know Vernon Avenue been there for having years. but Four X's made that name of that street popular. Every time I see Vernon Avenue, I hear him. So I called him. I said, where are you at? Guess what he tells me? I'm on Vernon Ave. I said, well, look, I'm at Vernon Ave now on the east side.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I'm going to drive up and run into you. He's like, oh, whack, you fully shit. I said, but call you 10 minutes. So when I got to the 110 freeway, I called him. Where you at? He said, I'm on Vernon Figg. I said, I'm a block away. Meet me in the Burger King Park a lot, cross from Ross.
Starting point is 00:02:33 He's like, man, you're full of shit. I said, what car are you in? I'm going to tell you when I'm going to tell you in. I said, I'm looking at you making the left. So he sees me. And his face lights up and he said, whack, you are crazy, man. I said, what you mean? What you're doing over there?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I said, I was checking on my cars, bro. You can't be believing the internet. I go where I want to go. Do I just hang out in the f***o? No. But if I got to go to the ghetto, then I go to the ghetto, right? So we chopped it up and talked. We started talking about streaming and shit like that
Starting point is 00:03:02 and things he might want to do. And he went, he headed to the main street. So it was funny you hit me today that him and Charleston was in here because I damn sure text Charleston and told him attack the gangbangers. Well, I was only telling you that they were there just because I wasn't sure if, you know, I know you don't like have a reason to have issues with anybody from the Fodys. But I figured you should know.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You know, one thing, four actions to tell you is he loves it. hear from me, but he hate hearing from me, because every time you're hearing from me, I'm telling him what not to do. Hey, bro, don't go to that. He didn't win this or shit and go to jail. Right? Don't do this, don't do that. You know, I'll be wanting to seem, do the right day. Oh, shit. He didn't leave?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, shit. He didn't. Oh, no. Oh, no. I wasn't you scared? No, I wasn't scared. You got a real crib in front of you? No, nigga. No, no. I'm the one got him back at the table. What did I text you? Oh, go in on the gang back.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Hey, listen. Listen. Hey, man, listen. Oh. The shit didn't take a breath. You didn't take a breath. It was crazy. Hey, listen, man, I couldn't get word in.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You couldn't do the slick talk, nothing? I couldn't do nothing. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't do nothing. And not only that, he's theatric. And, nigga, he was hitting the table so goddamn hard. It would make a... But what hand?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Bro, he hit both. Both. He had a one. watch on his other hand, the hand is good, and he smashed the table so hard that the watch broke everywhere. Hey, listen. When he come through the door, I catch him at the door. You can't fight.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Say, that pirate nub. So I go at it again. Try to go down at the belly. And I'm saying, man, I don't know if he's trying to land any walk it or not. But you got to remember with four extras. They shout a box. He really a... Aggressive.
Starting point is 00:04:56 He's really a fighter, right? So subconsciously, regards to what happened, in his head, he's still a fighter. I mean, I'm trying, and he's making me get out of the world. Can nobody tell you
Starting point is 00:05:08 you can't ride a bike? As long as you haven't ridden one, if in your mind, what? I can 180 till the day I die. Hey, so check this out. So, after we finish throwing punches, we get ready to shake hands.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm thinking I'm trying to try to take it easy with the hurt hand. Hell dog. That's hit that hand so goddamn hard, nigga. I said, man, not on that. Then when he grabbed me and hug me, the hug hurt my body.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I thought he broke a rib when he hooked me. Man, I thought he broke my shoulder. Because he's low-key mad at me about reporting on his murder case, so when he hugged me, he like, cool, and it just, I fell like. So you know what he told me? I asked him. Did he ask him? Did he tell you what he told me?
Starting point is 00:05:47 He's going to sue them. He told me he was in jail. That's where he told him. Well, he got locked up for like two days. No, he said he was in jail when that happened. Wait, what? That's what he said. So he didn't have to arrest him.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He got arrested for something else? He said he was in jail. Whenever this situation happens, he was in jail. And that shit has happened to me when I'm like, my CDC number. You better go check the year you talking about, I was in the penitentiary, right? He said he was in jail when it happened.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So that meant it makes sense now because if dude is in the penitentiary, the baby glove dude saying, I'm telling this information, that he's saying he was in the car with four action if they go and rest four extras and then go see he was incarcerated that mean everything this dude talked about is a lie
Starting point is 00:06:31 because if he was incarcerated there's no way you could be in the car with him remember he told his whole he was saying he was incarcerated when the shooting happened I think he was saying when he had arrested oh when the shooting happened so that's why we're not so fast
Starting point is 00:06:43 you know end of the day I say out of that to say this that's a young you the boy buying feel like an athletic body like the rock solid. Oh, yeah. Oh, I went to f*** him.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Body's belly, because his shirt, every time he jump up his shirt was flabbing like he has in stomach. I mean, you ain't been doing those. Burp his, fat stomach. That niggum, that niggum, got, did it, man it! Did he ask you any questions that you couldn't answer? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I don't think he asked him anything. He wanted to talk to the white boy. He's very self-focused. He didn't give him down about what I was saying. Oh, he was on your bumper. He was on his ass. He was mad about the murder videos, yeah. See, me and him and I already talk for now.
Starting point is 00:07:27 No, that's rap. We got all that from Rap New Street Politics. I kept saying I got from the police report, which was not Drew. I got it from that video. I got a simple thing. Well, here's the thing. He mad because he don't come back and say it's been dropped. Woo, woo, woo, like you did, said I got arrested.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So that we mad about. Okay, okay. I see what he said. Did you ask him about living in the hotel? No. No, I didn't get into that detail. That's a good detail. You know, Charles, and I'm going to ask him shit.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Don't nobody know who living. You know he living in a hotel? When they caught him, he was at a hotel. They said he's living in a hotel with his girlfriend, so he said he had like a bunch of shit in there. But it was a hotel in Glendale, too, which is hella far from the 40s. That's what he said about that night?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. Oh, I guess he kept talking about other people's girls. I thought he was just talking about last night. I guess he was saying it about the night he got caught, too. Yeah, well, he's on his way to do a video now. Oh, man, all I know is, it ain't very many gang banging characters
Starting point is 00:08:23 that catches my attention and make me look at them. He fell in love. No, no, he ain't been telling me like, yo, wow, he's different. I've been telling me from up, man. But that's why I've always... He'll tell you, if I'm talking about him,
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm trying to keep him out of trouble, bro. Like, when his ass went to hood date, I was, don't go to hood. Well, the time we got done, his ass was cuffed up. Like, so here. Now, I didn't invite him to October 16th, Bramress is my guess.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yes, we're going. Four extras is not going to go nowhere. I think he'll go. That's like the best opportunity for him possible. I'm booking his flight to Miami tonight. I'm going to send him the confirmation. And we'll see him. I'm booking a flight tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:02 He can meet everybody in the influencer boxing world, all these streamers, all these. New character unlocked. New character unlocked. I met with him yesterday to get his kid going. New character unlock, my name. If he, if he do the 30 days online anger management that a hip, build his kick and kind of rebranded himself where he'd be acceptable into the world.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Because right now, between A, B, and D, they got the kick, key and shook up. They're slapping him in the South Walker. They're slapping these motherfucking their ass. So they need to bring the fun back to it. He's not a bully. He's not. That ain't what they're saying in the county jail.
Starting point is 00:09:42 That's a different environment. That's a different environment. You got a bully in there. Mo Threes a bully on. Pray or pray on. Pre-preter-prey. Oh, these freaks, I never know any of being a book. He's too charismatic.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And he understand business. And from what I see, saw and heard, the guy got an idea of how to work this entertainment shit. No, he knows what he's doing. It means, well, he just need some guidance. And I told him, I said four extras. The reason why I be hesitant, because you don't want to listen. You see it your way because these people be in your ear
Starting point is 00:10:15 who don't know shit, same shit happened with Adam. They be in your ear telling you some crazy shit. You believe it. And it fucks up the bill. You can get there, but you be, they got to start telling you, you're there now. And we know you not.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Can you get there? Yeah. Adam thought you can get there. He wouldn't have never invested the time until you. And I told Adam ass on the record. Adam, I'm telling you now. I know what you're doing. You being a friend.
Starting point is 00:10:41 But your ass making a mistake is going to backfire on you. Because Adam was like panning, painting. And I thinking Adam said, I know he just got out. I'm a bill. Let's see where it goes. I mean, help him out. Boom.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I told him. He's doing the Vlad TV. Vlad helps his. Vlad helps his. I mean, you got to pay people in general. Yeah. Yeah. You wasn't doing wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You're doing right. No, no, no. He was doing right. But I told him, you got to have a conversation with him because when shit comes back and you start doing your numbers and you're like, hey, we need to make an adjustment. We probably could get back there, but let's make an adjustment. So it makes sense to everybody. He wasn't going to understand.
Starting point is 00:11:18 because it wasn't the right people in his ear to help him understand. There are other platforms and podcasts and shows that want to interview the people who've been on here, but they don't never leave L.A. They come here. That's where they stay. I mean, you know. Nick, come take your trip and say TV, TV, love, or real life. All these people love to interview these entities and cross-referenced these platforms.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I mean, that's why he's smart, because he's got a whole network all over the country. different people that will pay him for podcasts, brand shit, shows, et cetera. So it's like, for me, people kind of get the idea. Like, it's hard for Adam to leave L.A. He's not going to leave L.A. on a dime. But with Charleston, he's got this big-ass network that he's able to utilize over and over. But imagine a four extra, Adam's connection with the industry and the star. We've got to see him.
Starting point is 00:12:13 My connection with Ryan Pai, our connection with Aiden Ruff. Uh, man, come on, homie. Then, I'm in the strip club every night, so I got, I've got all the relationship with the strip club owners from Tucci's the managers. Uh, it's too many deals on the table. Uh, man, there should be all kind of brand deals back there. Tito's game money. He doesn't catch flack. For what?
Starting point is 00:12:39 For sitting with him. Oh, I know, I know, I know. But he don't know. Because he, because he, because Frasier is like everything, everything I like, everything I'm going on. He's like, now, you was trolling. You was trolling. Esbone was my... Yeah, but, they hate Esbone.
Starting point is 00:12:50 They hate Esbone. They don't talk about him. You notice he didn't say a word when you brought him up? I don't know exactly what he did, but none of the 40s fucking... I know exactly what he did. They hate Asbone. I kind of know, too, but I don't want to say it. But, yeah, yeah, you notice he died, nobody said a damn thing.
Starting point is 00:13:03 No, that all. Yeah, I don't know. You didn't see here too good. Shout out Esbawn. He was all right with me. Me too, me. He brought him up real quick. And Forrestre goes, from my hood?
Starting point is 00:13:13 My! And then proceeded to not say a single word after. Yeah. Did he give him that look Where all this shit wrinkled You got some facial expressions, bro Oh Okay, he got mad because I said
Starting point is 00:13:24 How are we going to keep you safe If you go on Toro Charleston? Like there's Hoover's in other states He got so mad at me for suggesting That he would need any kind of protection But let me just say this They might take interest I saw he got mad because he's saying
Starting point is 00:13:39 How you go kill the tour Before it's started run off the brand deals I don't need protection If you're saying this then you're running off the deals that possibly could be on the table. That's how he was acting to me. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I just wanted to know what he was saying because realistically, somebody like him on the road, he needs some security. I got to go back to Miami, October's Army's Army's birthday, but we got a fight out there on the 24th 2 as well.
Starting point is 00:14:01 If I got to show, I'll be there. Let me just say this. I'm so serious about what I see it. My agent is here. I got anywhere from a $20,000 to $25,000 Pokemon deal on the table just to post how I'd be doing with the fan duel and all that shit. I'm passing that deal
Starting point is 00:14:19 to him. Let me get there too. Might be a good plate. Yeah, yeah. They offered it to 6-9, 6-9 turned it down. Not enough money for it. It wasn't enough money for me either. I won't a little bit more too. He'll probably get more because of the platform.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But for two years, they kind of have association with you like image in the brand. But shit, $25,000. 30,000 for a four extra. That's a good play for nephew. Yeah, and it's a deal. I'm gonna get his kick going for.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, so that's what he is here for. Who is that? Do he look familiar? He know you. That's my agent. So he's my, so me, so he's Tasha Young, Tasha Kaye. Man, I've been doing that. Yeah, niggas, speak high on you. Yes, speak very highly.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I mean, you've been telling you. You haven't been telling you. You ain't been telling you. He's a good, he's a good behind the scenes floating in the room and if you don't know him, like Josh. If you just don't know. Well, Josh be rapping in shit. No, but I'm saying, if you just don't know who Josh is,
Starting point is 00:15:23 Josh can walk into a room and people wouldn't know. But now he's the dude with the hose. That's our superpower. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. So listen, I keep hearing you screaming about this. You got a three-album. I got a three-album distribution deal.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Who with Empire? I just showed him the contract. No, he definitely got what. He got a Christmas album. a rap album and the comedy album. I've seen this shit. He's not played. He showed me the car track.
Starting point is 00:15:49 How the comedy albums do in 2026? I used to listen to Adam Sandler. Now that you can stream it. Now that you can stream it, hey, Adam, you know how many times, bro? I'll pull up at a light and they're listening to us. Like straight up. They listen to us often, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:07 My numbers, homie. I got over 4 billion views on TikTok alone. That's just TikTok. But are you going to make music or just do common? I'm going to make music too with the Heppel Wack 100. That's going to be funny. I don't make music. I'm going to, so I'm going to do with DJ Callet.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So it's a DJ Callet style album where I go get other artists. I'm either on the intro, the outro, in the middle doing skits like they used to do. The comedy album is going to be a Dolomite style album. Talk Over Some Beats, you know, funny shit. The comedy album is called, they already got a name for it called Christmas. with no chimney. Wait, how is it, what's Christmas with no chimney?
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's what I'm saying. Projects. Oh, okay. How can Santa Claus come to see a kid in the project? Ain't no goddamn chimney. Most of my homes are in my life we didn't have a chimney
Starting point is 00:16:56 and I never really asked questions about it. My parents would say they were going to leave the door open. So, so, so, so Christmas with no chimney. So I'm going to have some rapping the old, you know, going to go remake. I saw Mama kissing Santa Claus and the name that would be Uncle Daddy Santa Claus. It was my daddy brother.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You know, there's some niggas that don't know if they dadded brother, their uncle, their daddy. That's the fact. Yo, man, listen, what's the last shit you got into? It would be so much popping up. I just got out of jail for my bitch accused that I whooped her. You beat that in the next thing within a week. We went through the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:17:30 He beat that. They dismissed that. They dismissed that quick. Yeah. Oh, shit. You said some other crazy shit about somebody. I don't know what. Nolan Well.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Oh, yeah. I think Nolan Wells was gay and I believe if the gay community got involved with it and identified him and classified him as a homosexual black male like he was or this case would be solved. Why do you think that's why they killed it?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Why is his throat missing? Calm in it. Why would your mind go to some shit like that? Well, well, all the pictures, I'm from the answer your question. All the pictures that they show us, right? They say it was a football player. He didn't have
Starting point is 00:18:12 A goatee or mustache, no scars on their leg. Every picture they showed us, he was in between two white boys. One one who got his hand on his thigh. Nigger's legs is awly. He handsome, and he's the only nigger around all these white boys and no girl. They say the dude got mad that he was getting at his ex-girlfriend. Where's the ex-girlfriend? Where have she been identified?
Starting point is 00:18:35 She hadn't even identified. Then they say he was seen boat hopping, getting on other boats with other people. So you think he was boat hopping for the, the men. Man, you know they got that niggas. You know how Adams is. Come f*** my wife and in the process fucking him too.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I'm trying to figure out if people with if you're like less likely to have a beard if you're gay. The AI doesn't know. So he in the early 20s. So then there's no water in his lungs. He got bruising on back his head and on the bottom of his back. So you're saying...
Starting point is 00:19:08 He's a pump. I am in part. I mean, he's gay. You're saying it was... They come down. Not a threesome going on. You know how I had them to do. They get on them boats. All the niggins.
Starting point is 00:19:17 What was the girls at? Why? No girl. I don't think I ever fucking on a boat. No girls. All guys. All guys on a boat. No girl.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I just had to make, I just had to jump off. All guys. No girls on a boat. He getting left by itself. Come on. So you really, you troding or you really believe some crazy shit like that? I really believe that. All guys, no boat.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It ain't no girl come forward. So, yeah, me and him was talking. We had an argument. We got it to a... Nobody... But I think they check your throat and your lungs when it drowning isn't. Everything's... Listen, the organ is missing, according to the autopsy.
Starting point is 00:19:57 His throat and something else is missing. His lungs didn't have water in it. So he wasn't... He didn't... The seawater watched the calm out of his ass. Seawater washed the calm out of his ass. Okay. No Nolan Wells' throat was not missing.
Starting point is 00:20:14 during his initial state autopsy, but his throat and neck structures were missing when his body was delivered for a second independent autopsy. According to family attorneys, Ben Crump and forensic pathologists, the independent autopsy, which was conducted on July 10th,
Starting point is 00:20:30 noted that the neck structure's throat and several internal organs, including the brain, lungs, and stomach were missing or not intact. Home in the belly. What do you... What do you think about Ben Crum? A hostler,
Starting point is 00:20:44 abuline, check. I know Ben Crump. Ben Crump have never won't. He have never fought a case in the court of law, never. So what he do is he comes to the town, he has somebody locally go reach out to the family because it's inectical and illegal for him to do that. Hey man, get being called Ben Crump.
Starting point is 00:21:01 He's been on every major shooting case in America, nor the lawyer. He has fought and handled numerous cases in a court of law. It's really fun to sit here and fact check. Where? Just Ben Crum has fought and handled numerous cases. Well, he's actually the founder of Ben Crumman. Trump law. So he is a licensed trial attorney. When was the last time being
Starting point is 00:21:18 Trump being in court fighting the case? Okay. When? I've never seen it. Me neither. I always remember about settled. So maybe he go to court to settle. Could be right. Let's see. He's like one of these guys that figured out that a good monetization strategy is to just attach yourself to every racialized crime. And we ain't ever seen. We don't seen Johnny in court. Well, but his last time in court was in December of 2025, which was realistically like very recently. But yeah, almost a billion-dollar wrongful death verdict. He's a civil guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:51 So he's not, I don't know because, I mean, I was telling myself, I don't think I would want Ben Crump to represent me listening to him talk. Not a great speaker. No, I wouldn't. I'll take Drew Finlay any day. Yeah, Alex Kessel. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:08 We would think what the Dodd Jim and Mediard did to the Ta-Ban-Maw. but that's right. I thought the brain the dog the dog the door the door you're told him dude dead you told him
Starting point is 00:22:21 Dave Marrard but that he was the Denison Tied the the that that's the fact I was like yo I was trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:22:30 like why is this dude always front one on the camera but he took Al Sharpton's playbook so so so yeah you know so so
Starting point is 00:22:38 so the there are notable civil rights attorneys, Ben Crump is one of them, Lee Merritt is the other one, Jasmine Crockett used to be the other before she became Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, Kim T. Cole,
Starting point is 00:22:55 attorney Oliver Brown out of Houston, and then those ones that's on Carmelo Anthony case that come by the way of the NAACP. When I saw them go get those lawyers from the NAACP, I said, we ain't seen seen the NWACP do shit in decades. They need to do something. They can't beat the white man. You got to go get
Starting point is 00:23:12 Dad said he's going to beat your ass when to catch you. I just talked to him. No, no, you didn't. He's trying to line you up. I just talked to him. He's trying to line you up, bro. He's trying to get you close to him. He heard the shit you said about his son.
Starting point is 00:23:23 No, he couldn't have heard because my n-baby cashed him went and talked to the song. What did you say by this son? You called him a little punk, cry, baby bitch-ass. I never said that. What did you say about him? I didn't say that. This is the one with the white boy, right? Yeah, he never said that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You was riding with him, you went against him. I caught him watermelon filling, but I never called him cried to him. I called him watermelon filling. I call my little nephew Watermelon fella. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, to be fair, he was just copying what the dad of the victim said at one point. He didn't invent that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I started setting the church. Listen. You put anything else. Listen, have anybody ever, like, boozy nil? Try to line you up, but you just had to, you had to up on it? No plot. Just look this.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Look, that's the dad. Much appreciated. That's Carmelo Anthony's dad? Much appreciated. He's right now reading and in the law, like that. Okay. We appreciate it out. It's all the press conference.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Okay, but this is all from September before you started trashing him? No, it's after. This September 7th. But this is after you were calling them on watermelon film. Yeah, yeah. Let me go back to the watermelon film. So when was the trial in June? Look, this mean him arguing.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I thought the watermanor felon. I thought the dad of watermelming, too. Wow. I mean, his dad doesn't seem like an evil guy. He's not. He seemed like he was easily goodwinked. So what made you go against him? Made you change your mind?
Starting point is 00:25:00 I didn't go against him. I went and got him some help. So you figured you did what you did to make others. Part of that. But yeah, I helped. I helped raise more money for him out of that. So that was your plate? No, no, we raised over a million dollars within 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So you... We raised over a million dollars for... I get what it is. Because, you know, I got the same effect. Whatever I do, they go the other way with it. Yeah, we raised over a million dollars. That's why I'd be talking all that shit about doughboy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I know it'll make people like them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the shirt sale went crazy. A lot of white people in the Midwest bottom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, man, so, so, so, so, so, so right after that, when we raised the money, Ben Crump and his team reached after me,
Starting point is 00:25:59 we had private donors, we had a whole bunch of people come through. I was going to put the money into a 501c3, a pastor that has a church who everybody mutually trusted. Benjamin Crump and they reached out to me and said, what do you think about Benjamin Crump coming on the case? Well, at the time, we had already had planned
Starting point is 00:26:25 to have an attorney Mitch Nolte another attorney out of Collin County Ryan in a criminal defense mitigation specialist by the name of Shannon Ross. So we had already been in talks with hiring them and using his money for that. So
Starting point is 00:26:43 Well, Benjamin Crump and him came in with an offer to donate like $250,000. They was going to donate something to it. To hear me out. This is his way to get in. He and I have already had dealings before, so he and I know each other. And I ain't never wanted to deal with him because I ain't never been about the money. I put up $75,000 for the appeal. Attorney Oliver Brown was working on the appeal.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Benjamin Crumpnam came in trying to make a donation and was talking to Eric. Eric can verify this, my agent. The people that was called about the $250,000 donation for Camillo. That was Ben Crumption, them people. And they said, well, y'all don't want to use Benjamin Crumpinem? I said, man, that they're weak in the money. Some kind of way they reached out to Next Generation Action Network,
Starting point is 00:27:40 which is the Dominique Alexander guy. and got him to go immediately take the dad and them $10,000 to kind of help them pay stuff like that. And then that's how they got in. That's how he got in. Yeah. Have you been allowed to go back to Houston since the last time they ran you out of there? Yeah, I've been back twice.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And, yeah, I put, you know, made the law enforcement official report. So, yeah, I walk around the malls and everything. Them nigga still out there on the island somewhere where they don't extradite. who don't ask you night I believe they're actually day yeah I know but you know but they were out of their own I don't know where they're dying you saying you didn't scare them away from Houston
Starting point is 00:28:19 yeah yeah they didn't need to let smoke clear and they know that June you're thinking clearly now showing you where his little house going to be built out there on the cliff can I just call this to attention according to unsealed court documents and prosecutors the most damning text messages recover from Carmelo Anthony's phone included a message stating
Starting point is 00:28:40 that he would stab someone and lick the blood off the blade. Plus a text to his girlfriend stating that he was low-key on the verge sent alongside a knife photo hours before the murder, past threats to shoot up a school and
Starting point is 00:28:56 various racist and homophobic, whatever, I don't care about that. But like, I know that was with Heldon. Hold on. Hold on. Does that not paint the picture of a sick fuck? No, no, no, hold on. That's not true. The past dress and the shit. What do you mean is not true? It's right there. It's on the AI. It must be trying.
Starting point is 00:29:11 A. Amo is not true. That's the victim that had the past threats to shoot up to school was the other white kid that came out in appeal. That's not true, Adam. But I don't think that's true. There were some weird texts from the victim as well. I've seen something about the knife. The knife was from him, but he had the tool. He didn't take a knife to school.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It was a Swiss. It was a cleat tool. That's what I said. You argue with me. No, no, it wasn't a cleat tool, but they tried to say it was a cleat tool. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Yes, and these quotes are officially confirmed and documented in a 75-page post-trial court dossier unsealed during an August 2026 motion.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You're asking AI mode to translate 70s. But I also said, can you triple confirm that these quotes are true? I do not argue with people that use AI. AI is probably the best way that we have to get at the truth. AI mixed facts. It mix facts. It don't give you the truth. It's just like when you go to court.
Starting point is 00:30:10 If you want, I can find the actual sources. Just like when you go to court, the prosecution has some facts. The defendant has some facts. I don't feel like that a dude was guilty and deserved to go to jail. As AI, what did Carmelo active victim say about his text messages? He was suspended for threatening to shoot up to school, not Carmelo. No, that's not true. I'm telling you, it's true.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I know they was bullies. Very bullies. Train Miss Marshall. I hear they, they broke their daddy. daddy colorful. They beat up a girl in school. They had the racist threats. They threatened to shoot up the school. That's what just came out in the appeal process.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Okay. At the trial of Carmelo Anthony so, okay, vile slurs. So, a pervasive picture of a racist outlook was painted by looking at Austin's text messages. He used racial
Starting point is 00:31:03 slurs. Kill all black people. Yeah, he may have spray paint. They didn't bring this up in trial. None of this came up. None of this came up. But they didn't bring up the stuff about Carmelo, too.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, he did. No, they didn't. All that stuff wasn't brought up in trial. And the N word. Don't leave that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dreads of violence, school, this man, record. You were so fired up about it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 No, but that being said, none of this suggests that he said or did anything racist to Carmelo Anthony. The video show they beat him up. They video show they beat him up. You don't think he's capable? But there's no indication that he said anything racist. to Carmela. Yes, it does. Carmelo said what they said.
Starting point is 00:31:42 They came over there for him because he was the only black kid. But he didn't say anything racist. He was the only black kid on the team. Adam said he shouldn't have been under that too. He should not have. Why? He was a real. Why?
Starting point is 00:31:51 At the trial, at the trial, this is what came out of the trial. His mother had took a picture the week before at the same track meet. Why, he run track two. His mother took a picture. He was up under the tent that week. You know why it wasn't a problem? The two racist white boys wasn't there. You know why the two racist white boys?
Starting point is 00:32:09 they were suspended. They were suspended. So when they come back off the suspension, what this nigger doing under here? Carmelo was dating one of their white girlfriends that they won't let talk. When he came from New Orleans, handsome tall kid,
Starting point is 00:32:25 make straight A's, never been in trouble. Everybody scattered these two bullies. Everybody scattered these two bullies, including the dad. He broke the dad's collarbone. The little mixed kid, the little mixed kid who lied on standing said he didn't know Carmelo.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Him and Carmelo was friends. Carmelo knew to the school, and he's an athlete. This is their track meet. So he was supposed to be under the track meet. That's why he wasn't charged with trespassing. So they said in court that the coach told another kid to go control the tent. When do kids control the tent to tell another kid you can't be under here? What gives you an authority?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Do you think his appeal? What do you think are going to happen in the field? He's going to win. Why? Because this one, if he pre- His request for a new trial has been denied. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. His appeal hadn't been denied.
Starting point is 00:33:15 His appeal had not been denied. His appeal have not been denied. No, but his request for a new trial. But he had not lost his appeal. He had not lost. His appeal could take like around a year. So, so, that's what I'm saying. So check this out.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So while he's in there, so while he's sitting down, these kids who are known, all the other kids scared of these niggas. all the other kids, Skelly kids. They've been doing Jiu-Jitsu MMA since they were four or five years old, and they kick ass. And they own steroids, and they do MDMA.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They won't release it. I don't think there's any reason to believe this. I'm telling you, that could be sued for saying this. I could be sued for saying this. It's in the autopsy report. It wasn't that. So you know how small the Swiss night feels?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This kid was big, buffing, muscular. No, Austin was not on steroids or MDMA. They're going to say that. It's from a source of very prevalent source of online information. So check the game out. So this kid sitting there getting pushed around, pushed around, push around. He stand up.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He stabbed at an angle one time and take off running. I don't think he meant to kill him. The FBI formally debunk those, which is something normally happened. The FBI also said that they didn't kill. Martin Luther King. But you know what's funny about this? I said that they didn't kill Martin Luther King, but the family sued the government
Starting point is 00:34:42 and the government was liable in Civil Court for killing Martin Luther King. They tried to say that Austin died of an MDA drug overdose, not being stabbed, which is exactly the same playbook that they did on George Floyd. Oh, he died from fentanyl overdose.
Starting point is 00:34:53 He died because they were kneeling on his neck. Was it in the system? At least some. I don't know how much. So tell me this. So that one little night style, one time, get him in the right spot.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Kid take off running. Yeah, I don't think he meant to kill him. I think he hit him. I think he was scared. So nothing else, this is a manslaughter case. He was talking days before the attack about how we really wanted to stab someone. That's what I said. It's invalitative manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:35:17 But y'all over with me. And y'all are known for people. Y'all are known for kicking. And y'all put your hands on me. But now that you know that he was, like, deeply concerned with stabbing someone, that this was like a fantasy of his, doesn't that make you think? Oh, maybe he stabbed them without needing to. Kill all the niggers?
Starting point is 00:35:36 the fantasy there. It's real. Kill all the niggas. But they didn't act on it. He didn't act on it. Carmelo actually killed the white boy. Once all four y'all came from him. They approached him.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Four guys. Listen. They're approaching. Athletic football players. Star athletes. Train mixed martial to jujitsu. I'm by myself. Jiu Jiu Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He broke his daddy collarbone. What did it do to you? Daddy collarbone. Daddy collarbone. God damn it. They come from the abusive home. Tell me some of them. They come from.
Starting point is 00:36:06 an abusive home. Who? Dad beat mom. Carmelo kid. Not Carmelo, the med-caf boy. The med-caff boy. They come from a dysfunctional family.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Not Carmelo. You saw how racist the dad was, did you? You seen how racist the dad was? I think he just was in a low over his head. I don't really think he was a racist. Hey, but George Floyd was... That's a real white boy.
Starting point is 00:36:25 George Floyd was on enough fentanyl when he died, and I'm just saying this because this is what the AI says. But he was on enough fentanyl that if they had found him dead in his house, they would have considered the fentanyl. The reason that he did. They choked his head. So let me just say that. I'm not saying I believe that, but they did say he was on enough of that and all that.
Starting point is 00:36:43 He might have had it in his system, but dude, he put that knee down on him. But it sounds like it was a lot. So let me just say this about the Carmelo case. It wasn't about race. It's about bullying. It's about bullying. But you don't think they was bullying because he was black? Yeah, but, but, but.
Starting point is 00:37:00 If he had been a white kid sitting there, think they had a tripped on him? No, because they knew he was a killer. Because they kicked most of the white kid ass. Oh, yeah, so they didn't give it down who you were. See, this kid came in, this kid came in during summertime, showed up at a pool party, got in the pool, didn't have any draws on, and they was impressed by his dick print.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Oh, my, where is coming from? I feel that. I swear to God. I swear to God. That's why he became the target of bullies. You like that? I'm telling you what I, man, listen, I'm telling you what, man, the kid went to a street,
Starting point is 00:37:32 a new kid, handsome, smarter schools, make straight A's. Make straight. Never been in trouble with that pool party with that long nigger dick and intimidate them two white boys. You know the white men always been intimidated by the nigger dick. That's why every picture you saw of a nigga dick
Starting point is 00:37:46 hanging in the 60s, they had a nigga, they cut a nigga dick out. Now, now, yeah. I called Big U and asked if that's true. Well, you said it happened in the 60s. Sorry. It sounds like people are killing each other out there. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:38:05 I don't, yo. But you got a damn, you got Brandon, you got all, listen. Oh, Brandon. This is a wildhouse. I looked up. I seen Brandon. That going on.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You had four Wessing to Charleston it in. They don't even know. Honestly, me not having security here today is some daredevil shit. Because I had Mimo straight into Charleston. Now, I don't know if you're familiar with what Charleston has said about Mimo. I was thinking that I might be able to get them on the same page. Mimo said, hell no. As soon as I.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I think Charleston have whoop Mimo's ass. I think he'd be pretty close, I think, honestly. They ought to be a good brand of risk. Probably both have, like, pretty similar body types. I think he'd have Woot Mimo ass. You think he'd even fight Mimo? Because Mimo was here before you, but he left. No, the Miko does not fight after that.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I keep Mimo with him. Mimio 600? Yeah, I think you can whoop. You were talking about Steve. Oh, who was Steve? His brother who got killed. No. Steve Drive.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Put that on Steve. Shut up. Oh, that's why I don't be knowing what the fuck they were talking about. Yeah, don't know about his brother. but him and his family. I care. I didn't know him, but I still care.
Starting point is 00:39:08 No, man, no jump of news. No jump is now adding a segment to the podcast. It's called nigger news. I like that. It's got a ring to it. That means Brandon can't be on it. I love Anamonopia.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Brandon can be on it. Brandon's not black. But if you have a loose definition, you can. Say, y'all, wag, wait until he get 50 to get hassle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My n' ain't wait to get 50 to get hassle.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, yeah. He wants to meet him bad. Who? Brandon, the big fat guy out there? He's a, he's a, where he at?
Starting point is 00:39:40 No, he's like a, I think you've been very influential to his thinking. He's what we would call white Ross, but he's just proper. My,
Starting point is 00:39:47 yeah, the big dude. We just unplugged the camera. It's just one right here. It's all right. You got it. Yeah, I'm gonna sue for all these calls
Starting point is 00:39:56 anyway. That one right there. See it, Brandon, he'll come in here and talk to Charleston. Yeah, that'll be funny as him. Yo, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:40:02 First of all, God damn it. What? I ain't hit nobody. Second of all, if you listen... Not what the girl said. You didn't hear me say, no, let them squabble.
Starting point is 00:40:11 But she posted it up with her face all red and shit and said that you were the one who did it, right? She wasn't even the one fighting Army. I noticed she deleted it by the end of the day. Can you get closer to the mic so we can hear you? How is Chrishine suing y'all, but then with y'all the next day? I don't know nothing about it. Chrison ain't suing shit.
Starting point is 00:40:31 She's just trying to make me shut up. Why you plop your big ass down? Yeah, go there. Yeah, come. You were fighting Charleston White? Who was fighting? Oh, probably the other dude. Me and poop.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Pooke. You were fighting poop. Yo, listen. Call it a shit fight. I'm listening to Munchy B. talking about what is Wack doing there? Monty, that's above your pay grade. I'm gonna leave it like that.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Little dude, use a dumb-ass gangbanger. Go do your little child's above your pay grade. They're not gonna do a good job defending you? Because I said, I'm like, you know, you need the manager. First of all, this is what they got to understand. Anything that goes on in that house throwing bowls, pots, busing windows, holes and walls, I got to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Right? We spent six figures to be out there for those three weeks. It's real shit, right? So quite naturally, a lot of shit that's going on, was going on. It took my face to get done. And second of all, when I did pop up, it was really only because I had to.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I lived at the Found Blue. I was living for three weeks. So in the day, I'm looking at this dude. He doesn't understand really what's going on anyway with this shit. He don't understand the type of money being made and really what that move was about. You understand it. Okay, Blueface all of a sudden gambling every day now. You know what that is.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Who's his deal with? Steak. Oh. Damn, we should have gotten for the rainbat thing when we had a chance. Right? So, you know, and we got a couple more marathons we got to do. I got to set up the other ones. I don't know exactly what we're going to do, but I'll come up with some.
Starting point is 00:42:04 putting it together, but, you know, that's a world, Adam. That type of streaming is a total different world from what they understand it to be. Right? So when I'm listening to the dude talk, it's like, I think he misses the fact that I'm not really on YouTube like that with everybody. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:24 And he's trying to find a way. But that's what's hard for people to admit because did you see me and Jason Lee talking about you? And we're talking about how it's kind of crazy that the same person who's on, on clubhouse, like essentially inciting gang warfare and like, you know, all this hate and expose people for snitching, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It can be so responsible and locked in when it comes time to actually get the job done. But then also you might just end up fighting the club owner while getting the job. It's just like, there's a lot of different levels that you're operating on that's kind of hard to keep track of, yeah. Yo, and listen, I'm gonna say this, shout out to Vlad, AKA Vlad 100.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Vlad to Blad, I think I, yo, Blad is, yo, you listen, Vlad hits me. other day he said, yo, whack, I need security. Line me up. I'm like, what the fuck? Lying me up? He's like, need security. Me and the wife, he is stepping out.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And I'm telling myself, Vlad got a different level of aura, confidence going on like now, you know what I'm saying? Because you know what he's about to do. He's about to tell the ultimate story on his channel. The one story that people have always wanted to hear him talk about, but he's never talked about.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The Rick Ross story? this would be the perfect time for it because he's on a high he's riding it out right now he's got out of Dade County Jail oh I'm sure that didn't hurt yeah yeah this is the perfect if you're a Rick Ross off that milk shot
Starting point is 00:43:45 had to feel pretty good yeah this is the perfect time for it I mean timing is great what's up Brandy bring your ass over here man oh yeah we need Brandon come on over here man Brandon told me that he saved no jumper because our show was at an all time low I said you for Munchy B
Starting point is 00:44:01 Oh, yeah Suckers You know, I hit up Munchy Stahl Wack out I know he'd be talking shit about you So you think So you think he could do the Brucely?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Why don't he's got combat skills? Zatweechi He didn't have combat skills He gonna get you whack you a little up there He didn't have combat skills I'm sorry When he was out there fighting When he could visually see
Starting point is 00:44:26 Bro when it comes to the homie from 60s He told the story Man, listen. He's free now. Maybe I might. There was a time when I might have agreed with you, but I like to go to Woody's Barbecue in Inglewood. So I f*** with anything sexual anyway. He's a smoke right here.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So what? I just want to be, I'm keeping a piece for where the food is good at. Where the food is good at? Yeah. Woody's Barbecue Englewood, you know, Munchy Beashood. So I'm always going to be cool with Munchy. There's nothing good in Pekoyama. So, what?
Starting point is 00:44:59 I got a sacrifice our first. I don't know my mind. Say, now, hey, listen, I just want to make a public apology when I came in. I offended you and disrespect you by saying you must be an OG of a hood. I said, big brother, I apologize. I didn't know you and I. You my kind of nick, like mine and like hearts. Explain how Charleston has influenced your intellectual development.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He only wiped his ass every other shit, though. Because he, I think he's someone who has been influenced by your content over the year. That's a fact. The thing, no, I thought, like I thought before I knew about Charleston. I wasn't always, I'm like a child of the internet. Oh. So. I am.
Starting point is 00:45:30 You study the internet. No, any man after a while, there's a natural evolution. Have you been around gangbanging, even if you was a gangbanger, you know this shit is dumb, is going nowhere. It's dying. Your friends is dying. They don't agree. People going to jail forever.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's just sad. It gets sad. And then if you got a brain, you're like, I'm trying to do something with my life. So you have to separate from it. But when you separate, you kind of go back and try to fish for dudes who might be coming into the same understanding as you. and then after a while some dudes might get there
Starting point is 00:46:03 most dudes won't and then you just be like man the whole shit is messed up gang bangings a dead end what you want to do end up 50 working for Adam 22 so he could be your daddy why you tell him your hood stories
Starting point is 00:46:13 and then wonder why you Hey he could take that personal I don't give it yet in Charles in the same age yeah I ain't figure no I'm not saying 50 but I'm just saying in general like look at you deal with gang members
Starting point is 00:46:27 every day whack is more like whack is more like me than any of these hood dudes you got up here. I agree. He's a smart dude who learn how to manipulate and pull the strings of the situation. Why you say manipulate? There's nothing wrong with manipulation. As long as it's beneficial
Starting point is 00:46:41 for you. I'm going to go home and manipulate my dick. Exactly. This dude always got to say something gay. Adam, how does it feel being the OG of LA gangs? You're a real OG. All these niggas work for you at the end of the day. But no jumper does have a park now. I knew it. We shot the cipher at a park.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Random park. That's our park now. Let me tell you. You got y'all call the dope. Now it's our part. That's our part. No offense to you, Charleston. What's up? You spent years working to work on like gang truces and stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:09 What's that other dude named from A Trey? The dude who'd be like, Charles and Olme. Charles. Melvin Farmer. That's Charles. I talked to Melvin Farmer. He was like, oh, we got to do the gang truce, gang truce. I said, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I said, listen to this. I said, you look like a fool trying to go get niggas to get along in hoods. when one white man could get two that are mortal enemies to act right sitting out of table just because he said, come to no jumper. But the only people that are,
Starting point is 00:47:36 like, rival game members that I've had on here are people who are not on that anymore. You got this Nunchibu up here. They can't stand each other. But they're professional. I met Melvin. I met Melvin Fargo at the park.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I've never met much of a day in my life. But y'all don't meet because y'all come on different days. But y'all cordial. If this was hood beef, if this was a hood, they'll be sitting outside waiting for each other to get him when that. Oh, he's going to be wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Right here. I'm going to tell you why I haven't done it. Don't, don't, I'm going to tell you why I haven't done it. Because I really truly believe in his misery, he won't somebody to take him out. So I'd rather leave him torture it every day in a land and a world of darkness. But the point I'm making is could act right for Adam, but can't act right for the safety of their own community where their kids live at. That shows you it's by choice. Hey, man, man, all the nigger won't is a white man's jaw.
Starting point is 00:48:24 That's all they want. No, no, here you go. They want the white man to be their daddy. They're the coolest white man ever. These niggins chicken George. One white man would be better to work for than me. This is the dad they never had an opportunity in the hood. I wouldn't say daddy, but I would say boss.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Look, Charleston. They want a boss, sir. They're chicken George. They're in prison. Say, look at my ball, man. Yeah, but listen, you get paid your regular day rate. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah. Okay. So what I'm saying is you can't down the rest of that get paid a day rate. He's a new flacco. He's better. I'm not. I'm not. No, it ain't.
Starting point is 00:48:56 bro, these dudes will go to jail for the rest of their life where they will never get paid again over some frivolous hood beef, man. You know exactly what I'm saying. Wow. Bro, they will throw their life away. Their children will never see them again. The girls say they will never fuck them again over some stupid hood stuff. But they can throw all that to the side, let bygots be bygots to walk through the front door, no jumper. But the people who come on here, the people who come on here are not the people who are out sliding and fucking shoot up with those houses.
Starting point is 00:49:25 They are. They are, man. You think these things is innocent. Crimack shooting up shit around him. You got damn right, Crimack killing people. You've been to jail? You been to jail? Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Go to jail. You will get hardcore killers. They act just like the people on no jumper. Cordial, gentlemen, how you doing, brother? You had a good day. Did you eat anything? You need something? They're good at code switching.
Starting point is 00:49:50 You think that these dudes ain't out there doing that, or at least telling other little youngsters to go do it. They are. They just act civilized when they get in front of the white man, which shows you that they have them. Like the gang members I brought around each other when it was, you know, big deal sitting down with Brigg Baby. Yeah, Hoover's in 60s.
Starting point is 00:50:07 They didn't give a fuck. That's why we're able to sit down. We're not bringing people together that want to shoot at each other. Brick baby was long past that shit. Yeah. And wasn't like, like, according to Brigg, his hoovers that he beats with and not the ones that were from big deals from.
Starting point is 00:50:21 What's your seen? I don't know the exact geography. What's your scene? He's saying he ain't killed none of my, homies. What you're seeing is hypocrisy and action, Adam. Those people come in here, oh, it ain't no big thing. It ain't no problem. Go right back to their hood and tell a young guy, go get that.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Go slide on that. Go go get. They, when it's to their benefit, as they get older, as they get older, as you get older, you start doing things for your own benefit. So you let other people chase the club people. This is the black man, you won't sit on the jewelry. Now, if this nigga was on dirt, them jewelry, Durk, I'd be guilty. Dirk is, dirt is now like the men.
Starting point is 00:50:55 you sit with. He pays other people to kill. So you think Dirk is guilty. That niggins. That is guilty of sin. You don't think he guilty? You think he guilty? You don't think he is?
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, Dirk? Man, Dirk only getting off because we in California and illegal system is shit out here. I don't think that's the only reason. I don't think Dirk knew what Bonnie was plotting and planning to do while they was here at that time. Do I think it was conversations at times about shit? I think you helped him get to love. But I don't think that. I think Dirk understands Beverly Hills, my
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't think he, he don't got that kind of connections. He's trying to get Bush face a Dirk feature. Oh, boy. Yeah, I think about telling the set up to him. He helped him get the location. I just said Dr.C. He was going to get here and start self-incriminate. He didn't blame the white man.
Starting point is 00:51:42 What I'm saying? Are you, just for me and dark brown. Okay. Hey, same. I need it. I need it. Dark Brown. I need.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm just for me in dark brown. I'm just for me. That's a real nigga. I said, on his old, dark brown. Oh, dark brown. Dark brown. Don't get black. You be looking like Steve Harvey by the mile.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Hey, when I die it's super dark brown, she goes, you look Armenian. I'm like, how's that? That's all. Yeah. Let's let it go and put some pepper on the, no, I do that too because my woman, like, every nine I got to, you know what I mean? But I think, do I think it was conversations, yes. But that move in particular, dirt been out here long enough to understand.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Don't hit Beverly Hills. No, I think he's been out of long enough to meet you, and you help him understand that and give him the location. Okay, well, I ain't got nothing to get. We know you got connections. I fuck with Cuondo. Wondo, my God. I don't know none of the next to you.
Starting point is 00:52:31 What I'm telling you is these back civilized. You would have found him guilty. Dirt? As sin. That nigga is guilty. If I was a fair juror, yeah. He's guilty. He just pays others to kill.
Starting point is 00:52:45 If you're the source of money, you know everything that's going on. He's up there. Listen, man, I could speculate. If he could kill at the least, I can speculate. If you're the source of the money, nobody has any proof Dirk has killed anybody. Long Beach, sat out the long way to represent for Long Beach, nigga. Nobody has any proof that Dirk has ever killed anybody.
Starting point is 00:53:05 See, but what I'm telling you is, No, he beat him. When you go to court, you're not arguing the facts. You're arguing the law. He won in the eyes of the law, but the facts point to him being guilty and saying, little Dirk. My grandma used to say you don't think fat me greasy. That's what you doing.
Starting point is 00:53:20 What makes you think Dirk is a killer? Because the people he paid together. kill said he paid me to kill this person. I keep telling you about that residue. Why would these people just make that up? Whack? I keep telling you about that street. He still got street residue, but they won't let him come on. Jam, he never paid to do shit.
Starting point is 00:53:36 He blessed Jen when he came up. Why would someone sit on a stand and say this person paid me to kill him? And admit to killing something they're trying to get out of some. And I was on the face in three years. So you telling me, hold on, you telling me if a said, hey, Charleston, if you get on the stand and say this, we're going to let you go.
Starting point is 00:53:53 You ain't going to get on the stand and say it? Yeah. No, if someone tells me we need you to say this to get this guy to go to jail and this, my honey, I'm not going to say that. They're going to let you go. If they don't got me, they don't got you. They got you. How do they got me? If they didn't got him, they ain't got him with the switch.
Starting point is 00:54:10 They got him with the switch, but that only he shot that person. They're going to tell him, we're going to let you go. You ain't got to do the fire to 10 on this. We just need you to get on the stand and point him out. I mean, if that's my dog, I do the fire. Say, listen, that nigger with them hazel green. California you're going to do too. That's a nigga with them hazel green eyes and them long.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Ask yourself. You think Judy Lowe was trying to fuck his girl? I do. I do too. Good girl. Any with a head like you was walking up, ball, shaved, clean that day. He stayed that day trying to fuck. Norman.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Anytime that motherfucker had shay that clean. And don't let that boy walk out of that house that head say that clean. He up to no good. I'm lost. I don't keep up with. Duty low. That's the death. The light skin.
Starting point is 00:54:48 The slow kid. Named in the indictment as number four. But he's in front of the federal. He's in front of the federal. building every day while the nigg on the stand saying he's part of it so when the dirt wife come out he went and everybody know dirt don't play that shit uh-huh but all of a sudden he walking up giving her great big hugs let me tell you something about i got you like big red let me tell you something if dirt got convicted and sentenced to life she would have it up to that
Starting point is 00:55:13 no no guarantee not he stop no no that's radio no she's gonna be like uh no he like he like he like he like he like radio yeah he like radio yeah he like radio you think duty low is slow yeah he like radio Dudeo cool is cool. No, he's, radio was cool. Adam, you'd be around slow black people. I say you pick up as far. Hey, Adam. Hey, when them two white boys told radio to go into that locker room with them girl holler,
Starting point is 00:55:37 radio didn't tell. Radio were cool, so you can still be slower. He said, all I'm saying, Dudu lo is not from where Dirk's from. But because he got what people need, wink, wink, I think, maybe, sometimes. And he's just a cool as dude. When Kodak Black came through. to do that interview, who's he with? He's with Dudelo.
Starting point is 00:55:57 He kept a lot of cool enough that the rapper's eating drugs. That because he's nowhere to get the drugs wrong. He's nowhere to get the perks wrong. I don't know the Nick. I don't know. I swear V's don't say he gets perks from Doodylo's in a rap song. Every singer and rapper got a dope man with him. You ain't got to be reptable or not to this. Doodylo is a dope man, dope fiend that's been taking Xanax as he betweil.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So that boy nowhere to get all the yerk shit. You got the drink, you got the weed, you got the girls. If you want to become friends of rap, You'd be the lean man. You'd be friends with the rappers. The boy under 30. And he got a clean ball shade head. Under 30.
Starting point is 00:56:33 All I knows it was in the Rico is number four. But he's standing in front of the courtroom. Co-co. Dancing. He's coded in number four. That dropped the low. He's dancing. OTF, get on the stand and said,
Starting point is 00:56:45 that product to do the murder with me. And he's in front of the federal building, not from Cali, like it's cool. California is a demonic state. So a killer getting off ain't no surprise to me here. What is going to be standing in front of the building? TikTok and knowing your name is in that bill. Somebody who knows that they-
Starting point is 00:57:02 Say it. Say it. Say it. I wouldn't be surprised that that kid his girlfriend get off. I think it's- Somebody who knows what. That the fix is in. I think the whole dirt trial is being fixed.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I don't think, bro, California is totally corrupt. These people will do anything to retain power. If they- Do you understand that little dirt getting a life in prison before the midterms? literally the political apparatus of California would be like that's going to make us look bad. That might have shockwaves across the country. It was a Fed case. How do you make the jury?
Starting point is 00:57:35 How do you rig the jury? Yeah, how you do that? You don't have to do. They can get to jurors outside of court. That's not hard. Everyone's on social media. Who would get to the jurors? No, the jurors, they left every day.
Starting point is 00:57:45 They've seen everything. Jurors make burner accounts, bro. Look at what they're doing with Lindsay Clancy, how they're going after that jurors saying he was on his phone after court every day. The jurors are easily easy to reach, cut social media. You tell them I'm going to drop your back, just say, you only need one, and one can convince the rest.
Starting point is 00:57:59 So you think on this next, this, no, I think they all. They just put his next trial out to August 2027. Good, they should just put it in jail. Which tells me he's pretty confident he's about to come home on the bell. He ain't getting out. He bet not. He asks for a speedy try. Yeah, but no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And now the defense is, hey, we'll take our trial. We'll take our trial August. That means that... Hold on. Wait. Let me get... Let me give you a new outlook. The feds are very spiteful.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Right? So this was embarrassing. Right after that verdict, what they went and did? Raided OTF again. Look at it. They went to Raid the OTF again. Well, they went to O'Block. They went to O'Block, same thing.
Starting point is 00:58:44 They went over there to see if they can find some more cooperators. So now, so now, Dirk's attorneys is saying, okay, with this new evidence, we ain't ready. We need to look over all of it because this new evidence is overwhelming. But the Fed said that Dirk was sending people to kill O'block members because they weren't sliding on
Starting point is 00:59:01 Vaughn's behalf. And was. That shit sounds crazy to me too, but that's a really crazy. That's coercion. That's gangbanging. They put it in a song. You ain't going to go poop. Dirk's not a gangbanger. But go shoot up... No, he's the boss now. Go shoot up this other... Dirk's got a gangbanger. You ain't got to be gangbanger. Go shoot up this hood that we're cool with because
Starting point is 00:59:19 we want because we're upset with them that they're not killing my eyes. That happens. Adam's a business man. What do you mean? Shut out to my little brother. What's their biggest thing? You haven't heard about that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Ain't that what they say? I will say this. The dumbest the dumbest convict award. The dumbest entertainment convict award goes to Puffy dumb stupid ass
Starting point is 00:59:45 himself. Did he? He changed the subject because we can was getting too close to incriminating his ass. You ain't slick, Dirk my partner. He's all right with me. This thing about sling like one of my uncles.
Starting point is 00:59:57 This is on the cell phone by getting recorded by another with a cell phone. These guys got out of jail and released the story, 60 minutes. Now, you know, did he fuck him? Now, I told him, did he go into the hole? What they do? Took him to the hole the next day. They can give him another year. Now, he didn't lost a year.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Did he would have been home right now. If he wouldn't have got kicked out of that dream, program we'd have been home going to the halfway house so he lost a year on that now they can get another year so now did he look at february 2028 if they book him on that phone which they probably will because they took him to the hole it's too much they're looking at you the whole is looking at you and they're like oh what's going on in the feds you on a goddamn phone and he paying me to massage you he might go to a idiot yeah they're going to f*** around and send him somewhere Man, the thing that should make you lose sleep at night is,
Starting point is 01:00:50 Diddy basically did nothing, and he's getting treated like this. And a killer like Lil Durk is getting treated like royalty. This is getting treated. Like, it's acting like Diddy worse than Dirk, bro. And Dirk was taking lives. And Diddy basically got proved to not even be doing much, but he goes on camera and Panam. This is our problem.
Starting point is 01:01:07 That is kind of crazy. That's fucked up, man. That's my, dude, that pisses me off. Adam, in that case, you should be doing life. You just got on my, you got a Christmas gift coming. Hey, let's go. He just tells everybody you're going to take him on tour. But this is common sense shit.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I mean, you can't look at Brandon. You don't care. Look at that. I need all the hookers. All your other women have went across state lines. Okay, okay. I hate it. You got to understand.
Starting point is 01:01:33 This is why this is interesting. It's because Brandon and Flacco are able to spread their wings and fly because this broke the door down and said, hey, I'm going to criticize gangster culture as a dude from within hip hop and now he can do it. Flocko can do it. It's normal now. People barely even notice,
Starting point is 01:01:54 but he was the revolutionary. I do it. 100%, but you don't have enough, you don't have enough proximity to black culture to know even he came because of Walter Williams because of the soul. No, they're always being.
Starting point is 01:02:08 By that. Who's closing a black culture than me? Listen, he sounds wider than him. Me and Ted Hex. Men like Walter Williams. Williams, Thomas Sowell, they've been saying this type of shit. We just, as a community, rejected them. So Charleston figured out how to make it palatable to a nigga.
Starting point is 01:02:23 What percentage of hip-hop listeners do you think know about Thomas Owl? Listen. We didn't read. Probably like much less than one percent. I contributed in a drive crazy. He couldn't figure me out. There's this one white guy I always see at the farmer's market who wears a shirt that says listen to Thomas Sauer. He really did?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Oh, all right. Hey, love you, bro. Yo, so, well, listen, that's a good plug and connect for you know who you are. Love you, Doug. I'll hollash. See you later, man. Nice to meet you. So, I think Diddy, bro, like, I don't know what he's doing, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Not letting massages from dudes. I think Diddy's time was like right now to come home to be able to another two years. Diddy is Diddy, but the way this shit is moving, nobody's going to give a fuck about it. But the way Diddy money is like outclass and dirt money, it just don't. make no damn sense. Like, there has to be location. Dirk is probably like a 10, maybe $20 million. Like when he was at his peak,
Starting point is 01:03:21 did he's like many hundreds of millions. I don't know about billions, but many hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. That's what I'm saying. It's just the Dirk shit is all location, man. It's L.A. It's a freaking election year with the midterms.
Starting point is 01:03:33 They will do anything to keep the Democrats looking right. And guess what? The feds is Donald Trump. That's the way people look at it. So they feel like by sticking it to the, feds a little bit. There could be people on the jury. Like, I feel like about... He might. People hate the feds because they hate Trump and they associate the feds with Trump.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I'm just, that's just the way my mind work with it. But I could be wrong. But I'm about to get out of here too. Adam, nice, good job making me work harder for my money. Really wrote you in. You got to sit down with the goat. You said, they said you... Did I get paid more? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:04:04 No, both. It was a little... It was good. Thank you. Hey, thank you. Hey, much love. Appreciate you, Brandon. Stay up.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Don't hear anybody else. And for the record, it says that, uh, the Ditty-Ddy trial was probably dramatically more expensive than Dirk's trial, which... Well, no, what he spent. Adam, I just want to make you proud of, you know, being... You're a good man. You're talking about what he spent. What did he spent?
Starting point is 01:04:25 What did he spent on it? Yeah, he definitely. I think he spent way more money than Dirk. Yeah, I didn't actually read through the whole thing. But Dirk, you know, it was crazy. Dirk's charges were way more serious. True, yeah. But Dity's charges, if he had actually been found guilty on all those charges, if he had a
Starting point is 01:04:39 public defender, they might have both went away for the same amount of time. I just feel like, bro, like, Diddy should have got in there. If long as a man and spit on him and put their hands on him, he shouldn't have gave a damn about what nobody was talking about. Talking about Diddy? Yeah, bro. With what, though? Remember, he got into the fight.
Starting point is 01:04:56 The fight got him kicked out of the drug program, so he lost a year there. He got kicked out of it. Now he got it, you know what I'm saying? But, I mean, even if you're Diddy, your respect matters when you're locked up, and you can't just let everybody walk all over you, right? If he got in a fight, he probably had to get in the fight. He's in Camp Snoopy. Diddy got enough money where he could have had two, three people.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Hey, listen, man, I'm trying to get back to the money, man. I'm just on some real shit. Diddy's not a dude. He's like literally damn they're about to extend his shit by two years. That's insane. You get what I'm saying? Now, if this was mother, if I heard Cuando Rondo did that, no big deal. Shug Night did it?
Starting point is 01:05:35 No big deal. But Did he? No, you cannot get in there and transform. your mentality to that of a convict. Yeah, you're there, but you're in Camp Snoopy, right? Just like you got people giving you massages and cooking your food, he could have people that make sure he ain't got to deal with none of that shit. He should have.
Starting point is 01:06:00 That's a fact, bro. It's crazy. Hey, did you see the clips of Ray J calling, well, not calling, but using the C word around Crip Mac kind of extensively? What he were? He was disson? C-R-A-B. I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:14 C-Mack went for it? He was talking about food, but then, like, he kind of, like, kept saying it to the extent where it was like... Crip-Mack didn't say nothing? Crip-Mack was kind of rolling with it. Yeah, he didn't really get mad, like, the way he just seemed like... I think Crimack is where Brick-Babby was, bro. I don't think he really cared.
Starting point is 01:06:35 You don't think? Yeah, I think when it comes to the Hovers, yeah. Right. Overall, I think he's somewhere else mentally, bro. But I think Ray J. do got a little bit of him that wants to, like, kind of let the world know from time to time that he's really from a section. Yeah, he's, you know, Jay Hood's neighborhood, they were enemies. I know. Arch enemies, so.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Which kind of helps explain why Jay Hood might have said. Yeah, definitely. But he didn't think that he was dissing. He definitely, but what was he was doing? I said, bro, your father, rest in peace. How does study box die? They say he, well, I've got two stories. Somebody told me kind of the night before,
Starting point is 01:07:21 he had told the nurses, there's a nurse there for his wife, that he was kind of numb on his left side, but I don't know. Somebody else is telling me it was a bad pill. Whether it was a pain pill or something, Because I don't know Boxing be on drawers and shit like that. But he died at home,
Starting point is 01:07:44 which was crazy because the box, we know, out of all this shit he bent off into, nobody ever expected for his demise to come, him laying the comfort of his bed at home. I mean, Box is a dude. Listen, let me tell you a story that he, I know for a fact he did, to BMF. He got to, he baked the dude in for a couple months,
Starting point is 01:08:07 star is small, they get to about $400,000. $400,000. Box said, me and me at my condo. They bring the money. Box said, used to have my condo. I'm going to go do the transaction. He leads with the $400,000 cash their money. So they're in Box condo.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Box called him 30 minutes later and said, hey, homie, it's about $20,000 of shit in that condo. The way I see it, I'm $3.80 up. Catch me where you can. Whoa. This is a fact. To a guy in BMF, he did that? Listen, one of the main guys later on.
Starting point is 01:08:39 him and this dude and sell he's in the feds Southwest T that's who the story's about this is a fact this is loud you know shit this happened boxed been shot up a couple times
Starting point is 01:08:53 and hard shout up he ran off with 400K how hard would you say that they went trying to get his ass very hard and they just couldn't pull it off well they made an attempt
Starting point is 01:09:07 to two um And I think Box never wanted to really accept it. Yeah. But would he blame Del Dog for? Wasn't Del Dog. It was that behind that debt. When they shot the Phantom up.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Okay. You get what I'm saying? That wasn't, you know what I'm saying? I've had people that was kind of involved in shit be like, man, I ain't Del dog. I had nothing to do with that. He took that money. But Box asked, he didn't been at it with the Mexico. and get mafia, every kind of mafia,
Starting point is 01:09:42 crips, bloods, you name it. Behind motherfuckers, girlfriends, wives, whatever. We just never expected box, the stutter box we know, to go in the comforts of his bed. Like, all the shit he survived. He'd been shot up a couple times. Feds, prison,
Starting point is 01:10:00 I'm talking about street wars. I'm talking about the people hunting him down. He'd have been part of different neighborhoods on both sides. He's the only dude I seen do the shit he do, but accepted the way that he was accepted. Right. Only the good die young.
Starting point is 01:10:19 A dude that grew up over here in Blood, neighborhood, but he had Crip and then was over here living with him, but then there's enemies, but then all sides still love him and deal with him. I mean, you go to boxhouse, it'd be like seven different gangs in there. It's crazy shit. But that's crazy the thing.
Starting point is 01:10:36 That's the environment that Jay Hood was raised in. Yeah, and it fucked me up because I just talked to him like two days prior. I just talked to him. And when I got the call, his baby mother, which is Frumper Kwemer, one of his oldest kids kept blowing my phone up and I was in the movies. And I'm like, I was watching Spider-Man with my kids. I'm like, yo, either somebody at this movie theater spotted me and she's trying to warn me, a sum's up.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And as soon as I answered the phone and heard her crying, I knew. It's unreal. It's like some shit's unreal, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you hear you're like, damn, what? And then for like two, three weeks, you're like, yo, this dude's really dead. I ain't going to, box the first one took me to Miami.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Really? So when it happened, I was on my way to Miami, it was like a lot of memories and shit. Charlton swears he's taking four extra to Miami with us. He says it, we don't see. He might say it, but you don't think so? I love the idea of four extra getting out into the world and seeing more stuff,
Starting point is 01:11:37 there is a part of me that thinks about Fore Extra in Miami that gets a little worried that feels like... I think he'd be good. I just like can imagine him ending up in situations that maybe he's not 100% prepared to deal with.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I don't think you have to deal with nothing in Miami. I don't think Forexia has an enemy in Miami. Nah, for sure. But I also just wonder what situations he could get himself into. Maybe I'm being overly precautionous. I'm just like... I think,
Starting point is 01:12:05 Makes me a little anxious when I think about it. I'm going to be real. Let's be real, Adam, you know this shit. And I have to tell these L.A. guys this shit. Locally, they'll have a little buzz or whatever, right? Yeah. But me and you both know, as soon as they two, three thousand miles away off that plane. You're right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:20 People don't really, some people might, but especially in Miami. New York, okay, I hear you. But Miami, I think he'd be good. I mean. Little John himself said, hey, homie, that I'm going to go walk on the beach by slippers because we was in Miami. He know that. Yeah, but to us, it's just,
Starting point is 01:12:40 it was a comfort zone there. I think four X's, well, had a time of his life, especially with y'all. And we don't really think of Miami as being like a gang city, or to the extent that it is, it's like people who are from there
Starting point is 01:12:54 that are getting it in. And what the fuck do they care about a guy from Rome? Yeah, they're not tripping that like that. I think four extras, I had a time of his life. You'd have to run into the most, most burnt out Miami blood dude to like actually want to be like,
Starting point is 01:13:09 I'm going to press this random trip. I don't think that I don't know. It's hard to happen. A lot of those dudes is from New York that's down there, whatever. I think it'd be a good look. Now, my thing is, it's four exes willing to say I'm going without bringing all the homies because- I wonder who we would roll with him.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Because that's the thing about it is that he would have to like accept that he's going to have to spend some money to go out there and be out there. But then in the long run, if he even gets booked for one thing, he just turned to profit, you know? Yeah, I think he's going to meet people that want to pay him to be on stream. Yeah, I think if he just kind of like went, maybe took one of his people with him, you know, that's cool. They share the same room over whatever the f***ing they doing.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I think he'd be all right. Because my thing about it is that if I bring four extra around Jordan and Aiden and all the brand rest dudes and stuff, like Aiden is a good judge of character, they're going to talk to him for two minutes. So they're going to be like, we need to work with you, whether it's streaming, whether it's you actually getting in the ring, et cetera. Like, there's no way that they would be able to resist for extra once they realize what he's actually like because he is the most high energy insane human you ever met in your life.
Starting point is 01:14:16 To us, it already kind of feels normal because we're sort of used to it. But like, to them, I think once they actually felt his presence, they would be like, we got to get him in here. No, no, I wonder if Miami would let him fight. But he got to, no, they wouldn't. They'd have to go to Tennessee or whatever. They go to do that. Donnie would. Just like Charleston,
Starting point is 01:14:35 Charleston can't fight down there. I just feel like Forextra's injury is not as crazy as missing a whole eye. Well, I mean, shit, man. I mean. I don't know, though. He will have a glove on. Yeah, glove, love. That's his neighborhood, ain't it?
Starting point is 01:14:51 That's what we're throwing up. Hey, so I want to, but I want to, like, try to rush through a couple more times because I do have to leave in like 10, 15 minutes. But Ray J. was rushed to the hospital earlier. So for those who don't know, he's doing it. an extended 24-hour stream thing marathon called Rahab. The idea with Rahab is that
Starting point is 01:15:11 he was going to go in there and get sober. Seems like he's really going the other way, though. He's actually been consuming huge amounts of alcohol and God knows what else. For real? Yeah, he's being a drunk as far. Yeah, I saw some video clips of him going out buying, you know, 10 bottles of liquor and stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I mean, that's a guy who loves drinking. Yeah. When I was playing poker with him, bro, he sat down, clearly had not been drinking. Orders, like, a couple of double shots. And at first, because I was planning on doing some trolling with him, because it was right after the Lenin and Drake thing. And I was kind of like, or was it after that? I was telling him something I wanted to troll. I was like, yo, I'm a hit on your girl real hard.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You got to get mad. Like, I'm going to be disrespectful, like, do some shit. And then when he actually got there, he was so deflated and just not like a funny charismatic. version of himself that I didn't even think about it, but once he takes a couple of those shots, boom, now we get the real Ray J. I'm like, okay, that's an alcoholic. Yeah, I seen him take him, I was going to drop by there
Starting point is 01:16:12 when I left here. But, you know, he knows, bro. He got heart problems. This is why I was tripping off him getting in that ring. They're playing games. Yeah. This shit ain't going to be funny when his motherfuck thing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. So I heard Doboy was denying that he denied it. He denied his blood status. Yeah, I told you. I said Rod and believe that. No, but he actually went in the group chat and was talking about how now he realizes why he should not have been toying with the gang lifestyle and how it was a mistake and blah, blah, blah. So I guess he picked the flag up and then he put it right back down.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Doe Boy has never been a gang member. What the hell does this you got out? He was claiming. He was putting things on blood gang at one point in the very recent future. I hope he wasn't doing that. You want to put the headphones on so we can check out Ray J being rushed? I think his mother is there too. To the hospital.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Oh shit, we got a buzz coming out of the headphone. They can't hear that though, right? Uh-oh. Oh, I guess whatever. That being said, if we want to go over to the hospital, we have an ambulance on the way. We get him over to the hospital. Absolutely. And that's it pretty much.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Okay. Okay. Yeah. Town scheme. Which makes sure nothing like that's happening right now. Okay. That's correct. two, three, eight.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Did you leave anything? I got it closed. Okay. Belinda, next time, Rayne, you want to be for his dog. Oh, yeah, I got a call. Right. I'm not going to hear that. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I'm not going to hear that. I mean, I will hear that all right now. But with that being said, yeah. A bag of chips and stuff right here. I will hear that all the bed of the hospital. But you know what? I know.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Can I ride back. Can I ride back here? I can't ride in the back. Wow. You want to look at it. You look at it. Can I ride back here with him? Yes, man.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Come over here. Yeah. I can't ride in the back. I saw you know. Wow. I mean, it's just like, you wonder, like, what the future of streaming is. because like what if he were to actually kind of like lose his life from drinking excessively on stream? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Bro, streaming is real reality, uncut, unedited. That's what it is. And it's making, I'm going to be real. It's making people do the most absurd, discreet, what you think would be discrete things to get that viral moment. Discrete is like low key. They don't, yeah, hey, listen, look at the dude. This dude, he's like, yeah, my brother made me. me give him head and Kai
Starting point is 01:19:13 you're grooming people I'm like bro like but okay I'm hesitant to believe these claims yeah now no the mother said she gave birth to a predator that her son really did that to that son right Kai's mom said though the other dude the dude
Starting point is 01:19:29 Reggie's mom came out and said he's not lying I did get birth to a predator and he he's not lying what his brother did to him okay so she said if he's not a long lie about that. I don't think he's lying about this. Kai got to file a lawsuit. He has to.
Starting point is 01:19:47 He says he's gonna, yeah. Now, he better because dude, dude is saying some crazy shit. Yeah. Which I know Kai got a lot going on. And I think maybe did Kai like get rid of him? Is that what it is? I don't think he like got rid of him, but Kai tried to basically like, all right, you know, no jumper. And then I build up a team and it's all these different guys and everything. And then they basically like are not doing a great job. And it just ends up looking like a disaster. I mean, that's what Kai did is that he,
Starting point is 01:20:11 He tried to start a group called the Clover Boys. And it was going to have, I forget, like, five or six different streamers. And he wanted to have them do, you know, he got them a house to live in and security and spent all this money. He claimed that he spent, I think, $3.7 million on trying to turn this whole Clover Boys thing into a thing. And it basically didn't work. If you listen to Kai, he says that they were lazy and they didn't put the work in, which to me, that's obvious. You can't just put people in a house and just provide all the amenities and everything and think that they're going to actually do something that will first. your brand. They're just going to act in their own best interest or they're just not going to do
Starting point is 01:20:46 shit. So yeah, I mean, Kai claims that he's out all that money. I guess I like didn't even really, I haven't like taken the petto slash gay sex claims serious because I relate to Kai so much with what he's going through with having a bunch of ingrates basically take advantage of his kindness. And the idea that he would be on some like molestation shit is just like very hard for me to wrap my head around. Now, you don't agree. You don't. believe that maybe at some point in time where they was around and whatever, you know, maybe they got a little drunk and they might have dis weird shit and one guy went for it that wasn't comfortable but felt like if he didn't go along, he was going to get kicked out the
Starting point is 01:21:29 card and maybe that's what he talking about. I feel like our culture is kind of obsessed with the idea of like dudes being forced to do gay shit with other guys and stuff. and I just, I think it doesn't really happen. You don't think if anything happened, it ain't forced. I just believe that Kaisenad has heterosexual. And until I see like real evidence to the contrary, then I'm probably just not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I think he's heterosexual too. I don't think, he don't seem like the type of dude that'll be, you know, a part of forcing, even if he was into some shit, forcing somebody to do some shit that he's saying the dude groom somebody, influenced by somebody or something crazy like that. Sort of molestation cult.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I don't know. I'm just kind of inclined to believe that that's not the case. And I think if that was going on, I think it would have been out in another way. Bro, you're a streamer. You're on camera every day, all day, for all these years,
Starting point is 01:22:22 and you never had a gay rumor. You never had anybody say that you did something and a little kind of gay. I mean, it's just, and I also just feel like I can spot the gay. And that shit is what makes you say the hell with friends.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Yeah. If it's business, it's business, because I know some of these dudes he really seen as his friend, and I get it. It's the same shit with the streets. When you start hearing shit and hearing shit about certain things,
Starting point is 01:22:49 and I started to call you today because I had a conversation with the wacko guy. Since you told Adam, I took some money or stole or something. He's a lie. He asked me about, Adam don't even know you to ask you about me. But see, this is what these dudes that you consider your friends,
Starting point is 01:23:05 admit it's the slightest little fallout, They go extreme with shit. You get what I'm saying? And that lets you know, Adam, we didn't bump heads. Yeah. We both got the capabilities of going to platforms and saying shit. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:23:23 Never happened. Right. So when you got these dudes that do these things, right? It's like, I get it. Like with Kai, I get it. I'm like, look, just kick with the Druskis and the dudes that you do your business with it. You know, y'all are cool with it. everybody's on the level.
Starting point is 01:23:39 But when it comes to trying to help these dudes build, it's kind of like, it's a bad taste in your mouth, bro. Nah, I feel it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? This is a tweet that I saw that I personally thought was like really on the nose. Shout out to my boy, hello, Yassine, one of the better YouTube channels out there that I watch frequently.
Starting point is 01:23:55 He said, Kaysenat is at the phase of the Mr. Beast arc where you start to get punished for the good deeds that you've done. And I have been in that position where you feel like, well, I would have just not helped anybody if I knew you guys were all going to turn on me and try to paint these crazy ass narratives about me at a certain point. And you know what you can say about me that you can't really say about Kaysanat? No Jumper, if I had never got all these different personalities to be part of the brand, no jumper would not have really like been able to become what it became. It would have been limited if it was just me doing interviews. With Kaisanat, he put all
Starting point is 01:24:32 these on and really didn't have to. He is huge. He's the biggest streamer. He's the biggest streamer. and he's shown that he can do it all by himself. In retrospect, probably one of the smarter things that academics did is when he built that podcast with all those different dudes and stuff, he did like two episodes, and I think he quickly realized,
Starting point is 01:24:51 like, this ain't it. This is not the future of what I'm building, especially when I can get so many more views just sitting here by myself. So, uh, I don't know, I just, I feel like Kai has gotten to the point
Starting point is 01:24:59 where all these dudes realize that they ain't going to really be shit and they're blaming him. And it's crazy too, because when they stream, I'm pretty sure their contract is such, that like Kai gets, I don't know, like half the money from what they do when they stream.
Starting point is 01:25:14 That makes sense. But that's got to feel pretty like demoralizing, knowing that you're basically like working to put money in the pockets of a multimillionaire who doesn't f*** with you. You don't f*** with him. But every time you stream, you're making money for him. That's got to hurry.
Starting point is 01:25:28 And that's how like almost every rapper feels. The money you're making is due to the boost he gave you. True. I wouldn't even count that. I'll be count mine. But to us, that is obvious, and I feel like to young people, they forget very, very, very quickly who help them out,
Starting point is 01:25:45 and they move quickly into the mind state of, I could have done all this on my own. I didn't need this. Which in streaming is the opposite of truth. They always do that once you put in the work. In streaming, you really, really, really, really need the cosign because you will have zero viewers unless you get some kind of cosign. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Mm, all right. Shout out to Kai. Keep your head up, my guy. Shout out to Kai. I don't believe you're a molester But if you are, let me know What narratives you want me to run with And we'll call you Chester
Starting point is 01:26:13 Uncle Fester I hate that I got a dip But I got to go relieve the babysitter We're out, you out, you are in Lennon Did y'all go on a date? You had a date, right? We had a little date. How'd it go? That was a cool date.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we good. But shout out to Wack, shout out to Charleston, shout out to Brandon. This was a pretty fun episode. A lot of guests for a shorter episode. Shout out to Nathan behind the boards.
Starting point is 01:26:35 No Jumper Seifer dropping next week Adam 22, 20 versus 1, 22 versus 1 is dropping next week. So you're gonna, if you want to see. Who's on the cipher? It goes, doughboy, me, munchy,
Starting point is 01:26:51 lush, moose, Ricky. And then a Ricky's rapping? Ricky wrapped. To me, I think Ricky should sign to Vince Staples or something. He kind of got like that energy, right? I don't know, you got to hear it, but Just hearing those names, who do you think got the best verse?
Starting point is 01:27:10 Do Boy is going hard claiming he got the best verse. You know, you always say slick shit. Yeah. You know, Lush can spit, Munchy can spit. I don't know, I want to hear it. Munchy, like, because you know, like everybody talks about Nogember, like it's just this big gang platform. But when we're shooting the video, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:27:27 Munchy's the only dude from a gang that is here. Bro, I told somebody that shit. I said, bro, like, who are you talking about? It felt that way when you had anything. And half a spouty face. And half a sporty face. And CMAQ was coming up here, a whole lot. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:27:42 But even then, I mean, you know, those were, those are dudes that was from the streets that wasn't, they wasn't out here sliding and active like that. I mean, they're going to be where they got to be if something of courage. But I haven't seen the building with active gang bangers. Brick wasn't an active gangbanger. He was chilling.
Starting point is 01:28:02 He was chilling, you know what I'm saying? But still, like Brick. being on the podcast, at least it's like, oh, there's another crib. Then you got Anne Hefe, oh, you got another crib, a different kind of crib. Then you got a sporty face. Oh, my God, another kind of crib. And then you got a blood there too. There's only two of us.
Starting point is 01:28:18 There's only me and Monchy. I don't think you had no other. Bloods? Oh, sure, yeah. You two are the bloods, but. And then you want security guard. I don't even think you knew he was a blood. He did do a pretty good job keeping it low-key, but then like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:34 You didn't even know. I already knew because he had to greet me when he saw me. He, you know, he obligated to identify itself. Yeah. That's the only way I want to know. I heard you say, hey, what up, P. Funk? And I'm like, oh. I know what that means.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Hey, P. Funk. And it wasn't George Clinton. All right. We had somebody from the Rainbow community. Dejan? There go. I heard he wants to get cool again. You want to do a virtual episode with him?
Starting point is 01:29:02 Oh, I mean, that's what you want to do. You're going to be helping. He only want to do it. He only want to do it because he needs some help. I do like the kid, though. I mean, he's like one of my favorite L.A. rap commentators, but I kind of feel like I should observe him from a distance. Listen, I feel like if they could have took your ass down, they would have.
Starting point is 01:29:19 So in that case, leave him where they have. Bro, if he had got that $100K, you tried to scam out of me? Bro, I was like, bro, get the fucking out of here. He'd have a grill. Yeah. He'd have dreads by now somehow. Think a fake guy shot. Fuck out of here, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Uh, he ain't even bought Tam or BBL yet. No? Does she need one? What's she even doing over there? I don't know, every girl need one, right? No, but why did, I don't get all that about it. Tam really was disappointed me. Like, I didn't think she would turn into that.
Starting point is 01:29:49 She was talking, Craig, did y'all get into it? Remember I asked you. She just started running out. She's a scally wag. She just started tripping. He just, yeah. I didn't get that. I'm like, yo.
Starting point is 01:29:59 She didn't got no value. I didn't get where it came from. Yeah, she's going to be broke forever. I mean, I don't even say that in a mean way. I could tell from her attitude, like, oh, you ain't never going to make it. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, she wouldn't wish she went instead of going to do her own thing.
Starting point is 01:30:14 She would have had a better shot just trying to build her own thing because I don't know Dejaun's crowd has it built? I mean, I don't know. That's one of my favorite L.A. rap commentators, so I'm not looking to knock him down a peg, but I would say, you know, I will say his audience is growing and T-Rails is shrinking. Like, comment, and subscribe.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Adam and Wack Pod, T-Rail sucks cock, and we out.

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