No Jumper - The Alysia Magen Interview: Fighting Blac Chyna, Kicked out of the Military for Onlyfans & More

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

Alysia Magen talks about bodybuilding, why she left the Air Force, the Black Chyna fight and much more! ----- 00:00 Intro 1:26 Growing up in a tiny little town in Nebraska, kinda poor, in a trailer ... 3:33 Late bloomer, going to church schools, kinda shy  4:21 Got hot senior year and was still a virgin at that time, lost her virginity to r** 5:38 Going to the military to be independent and to grow up  8:48 Her body is all natural! Was super heavy into bodybuilding, took steroids  9:51 She was super unhealthy then, too skinny, didn't get her period for 2 years  18:14 Alysia was released from the military, for doing her thing on the side, selling waist trainers, fitness stuff etc  20:02 She was well-liked, really didn't understand why it took such a turn. Literally got Article 15 after doing a side-by-side on IG, (work uniform vs bikini photo)  21:38 The attorney couldn't believe why she was asked to leave she had a perfect record 23:32 Came to LA after that and got lost in terms of human interactions, just super depressed 25:17 The Black Chyna situation, Alysia got hit up to fight her she was down right way 26:54 Only had a month and a half to prep and train  28:17 Black Chyna was a sore loser and got mad every time the bell rang, her trainer tried to fight Alysia after the fight was over 31:44 Alysia dropped a Black Chyna diss track  33:01 Alysia feels better, got away from toxic situations, and loves fighting, might stay in that lane with more time to prep next time 33:55 Is she gonna make her OF more wild or nah? 37:50 Alysia got a lot of stalkers, one came to her house to marry her, she called the cops, he actually was an army vet  42:30 Adam asks if he can be "top white boy" coming for Jack Harlow spot, Eminem is goat white boy ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. In the world. And today we have Alicia Megan. Did I say that right? Alicia Megan. On the podcast. America's number one.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Air Force veteran. I wish I could show you, but it's my sister. Oh, that's great, actually. I was thinking. That's how we're going to start it. I was thinking that, like, there has to be a way to film podcast where you can see more ass. Right. You know?
Starting point is 00:00:26 That's the problem with these podcasts these days. They're all filmed. The front. You've got to have, like, the stupid. just ask ever for it to show from that perspective. I think mine does though. I think we're good. Revealed a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:39 No, but you know, like you ever see on Twitch that girls will be basically like the camera will be here and they'll be laying on the bed like facing away from the camera so their butt is more in the camera than their face. Marketing. Marketing right there. It's kind of genius. And then they want to be that creep that's looking in the corner like while they're doing whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. Okay. So you are most notable for, I guess, the fact that you managed to do the transfer from being in the Air Force to becoming an influencer, only fans, chick. I don't know how you wanted to find yourself in that sense. Yeah. And then also notably beat the shit of black China. Yes, yes. So we're going to get into all that today. Hope you guys watched it. It was epic. Okay. Where are you from?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Nebraska, a tiny little town. Right. Like we have the most bars and the most churches. That's what we have in Guinness Book World of Records. That's what we're known for. That dude, destiny, we just hadn't heard us from Nebraska too. I heard him say that. Right when he said Nebraska, I looked up, I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Because no one talks about Nebraska. No, you never hear about it. It meant to be. Well, one time I drove cross-country with my friend and we drove through Nebraska, and I tweeted something about how it was the most fucking dead state I ever drove to. Cornfields, cornfields. But somebody that I know personally hit me up, aggrieved about my characterization of Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Like mad at me. Oh, yeah. I mean, to me, it's the best place to grow up. Like, I think my heart is so pure because I was raised there. Like, I could never imagine being raised in Miami or like L.A. and kind of that old school upbringing, you know. Like, I didn't have a TV growing up, which I think added to me being creative and wanting more out of life. Where were your parents like? And staying back and just watching TV. They were both from, from Poland and my dad's from Portugal. So I'm first generation. Right. So.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. Interesting. Yeah, blind date and knocked up and here I am. And how would you characterize your childhood? It was really good. Like, fun. We could break into old abandon schools, you know, we could run around town and not be worried about. You know, it was a good childhood. Right. Definitely, like, very narrow mind, like,
Starting point is 00:02:50 you know, kind of upbringing. But my parents, luckily, like, they wanted us to travel the world, so I already traveled everywhere all over the world. Like, even before I joined the military. Really? So they had money like that? Decent. They actually, I was a trailer baby. Like I was raised like born trailer and but now my parents they both have, are doing really well. You grew up in a trailer and they were traveling all around the world while living in a trailer park. No, but during that time when I was a baby they were, that's how much money they didn't
Starting point is 00:03:19 have. Like I was in a trailer, you know, very poor. And then now they're doing really well for themselves that we can travel. Like my dad owns his own business. He's that hard, working, you know, that's all he did was work, work, work. That's dope. Yeah. Okay. How was high school? High school was interesting because I was a late bloomer from being in a really, like,
Starting point is 00:03:40 I guess Christian upbringing with the school. Like, I had long skirts, long hair. Everyone thought it was Mormon when I went to school, like in high school. So I was kind of picked on. Oh, and you were in the church like that? So you were dressing like, like other kids weren't dressing like that? But you know like I came from like just church schools like my whole life But then all of a sudden in high school?
Starting point is 00:04:04 And then my parents were like let's just bring you into the world So you know I had my transition where I was really you know kind of picked on and made fun of Like I was so nervous even to talk to anybody in school which is funny because now look at me online Like right it's just amazing how you can really change your life But nobody treated you like you're hot until what age? So my senior year of high school I got hot and I was the virgin too and I was the virgin too and I was like the proud virgin with the big ass. I was like, mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So everybody knew you were a virgin? Yeah, I was very proud of that. Like, my parents, like, really instilled, like, you know, being a virgin, save it for the man. But you weren't hiding it. You were flexing it around. Yeah, I was flexing it. Like, you can't have this. Who got it?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Actually, kind of a tragic story. Yeah. Raped senior year of high school. How'd that go down? I mean, I was young, so I just kind of took all of it on myself. I was like it was my fault because I was drinking. He was sober. But everyone knew I was a virgin.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And it was the brother of a friend anyways. Not even worth talking about. But yeah, so I'm, to me, I'm grateful it happened at that. Like, when it did, it could have been worse. Could have been, you know, at a young age or whatever. So I think it made me the strong person I am today. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Damn, that's terrible. How did that change you as a person, though? I definitely, like, did an old. open up to men. I think I still have issues opening up to men a lot. But it made me stronger. It made me tougher. Right. For sure.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Okay, so you did the Air Force right out of high school? Actually, I did a little bit of college, and I was like, this is taking forever. My ADHD was kicking in. I'm like, this is going to take forever. Like, why can't I have a job and go to school and all this? And my parents, I paid for everything. Like, I had my own little town home, and I was just trying to pay them $300 and rent and I couldn't do it. I was like I need to grow up. I'm tired of depending on my family.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So off I went. But you didn't care that this entailed you going off and potentially fighting in a war? You didn't think that that was going to happen? Well, I mean, to me it was not really that big of a chance. I was in medical, so. But I mean, when you're young, you're willing to do anything. Right. And how is this experience? I think it was great. I think anybody that's out there, they should at least join up and then experience it. Because you kind of like, it makes you grow up a lot quicker.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You know, you leave your family and they put you in positions that normally would take you years and years, you know, in the civilian world that you can really do in the military. So I think it's great, great experience. I've listened to the podcast with people talking about joining the Navy SEALs and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It sounds like actual torture. Yeah, I know. I think we have a little, anybody that joins the military, I feel like we're all a little messed up in the head. We kind of like, we live on the edge a little bit. Because you have to basically assume that at some point while you're doing this, that you're going to have to, I don't know, just go through hell.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And you know your good looks ain't going to work. Right. Was that made clear to you early on? Like, hey, you're hot, but like we don't care. Oh, no, no, no. I always had female supervisors, so it didn't matter for me. Like, if anything, I feel like it made it harder. But, yeah, I had a good time in the military.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Definitely had its ups and downs. definitely like anything but I don't regret it right um do you encounter a lot of like sexism misogyny and shit or how how did you feel that you were treated it's got to be such a primal environment I mean it was tough because I was always bending rules like if you even look back on my Instagram while I was in that's kind of how I got known was I was a bodybuilder so imagine somebody that's your like your supervisor or whatever but I'm able to post pictures and bikinis you know I'm not doing it we didn't have oaf or anything back then in the day because what year we're talking
Starting point is 00:07:58 i'm sorry what year were talking that you got in there um i think it was like 2009 yeah 2009 yeah but it was like 2016 like um i want to say like 15 that's when you started posting that i was big on social media for the military nobody in the military had a big following like me i was like one of the o g girls you remember when the side by side's were really popular like on duty off duty and see like a chicken uniform. Okay, you were that girl? Yeah, I was that girl. Really? I was like one of the bigger, yeah. And I could wear a bikini. Like, I look back now and I'm like, oh my God, this looks like OF material. But I didn't do anything wrong. You know what I mean? I was
Starting point is 00:08:37 just bodybuilding. But yeah, and I even did it for the Air Force. But I definitely like, I got, you know, in trouble for obviously I was like showing a lot of skin, but not, I couldn't get in too much trouble because it was what I did. How long are you a bodybuilder for? Oh my God. Too long. Really? It was hard on the old knees. You got super into it. Listen, like, it was to the point it wasn't healthy. You did steroids? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I'm naturally, like, this is just all natural. People don't believe it, but. Your ass is all natural? Are you fucking serious? No, I'm serious. You can look back at my, and nobody believes it, especially because I'm in Miami. I'm like. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I thought, because I saw people talking about you versus Black Town and calling it the battle of the BBLs. Yeah, no. I mean, you can definitely tell by the legs. Like, if you look at our legs, like, you know, you can tell when you see the girls with the skinny legs. My like internal BBL radar like went off like opposite direction when I saw you out there. Because I like, and it's very nice.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Trust me. But like I just my brain kind of like did that computation of like no, that's not sitting like a BBL. I know how BBL looks. Even when it's aged, even like, you know, because it kind of like looks a lot less distinct over time a lot of times. I see them all in Miami. Left it right. Right. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But okay. So you're doing the fucking bodybuilding thing. Are you like winning contests? Are you, like, dominating? Yeah, I went, like, I did it in Europe. I did it in Finland. I got first place. I got sixth place an MPC for my second show, which is great.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Because it takes sometimes these mother truckers do show after show for years. Like, I'm talking 10 years just to get, like, just to get a freaking award. You turned pro? Yeah, just to turn pro. No, I never turned pro. You never did. Because you have to, like, win an official contest, right? I actually got too skinny.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Like, I look back on the pictures when I did. bodybuilding. I was like 114. So think about that. 114 pounds. I'm right now sitting at like 148. Okay. So imagine how like unhealthy I was. Like I know I couldn't sustain it. But like how much, how many pounds of muscle less do you think you are now? Like really hard to quantify. I, I don't know. All I know though my body fat was 4% like lower than 4%. Like I didn't have a period for two years. Really? Yeah. It's so like people don't talk about on how unhealthy that bodybuilding world. No, yeah, it's fucked. I'm like, but people need to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And you're saying you weren't, but you weren't even doing the drugs like that? No, no, no, no, no, no. Weight loss drugs and shit? No, no, no, no. Nothing? No, no, no. Really? I mean, okay, they definitely.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Because the guys, that's like the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that shit back in the day. It's fucking gnarly. With your heart's like racing. Hell yeah. I miss it. It was fun. Yeah, some, but no, no, no, natural.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I mean, I try. I definitely, like, dabbled in little things here and there, But the dudes that's like the most unhealthy shit ever So they have to be on the most insane drug routines Yeah I remember I used to I used to give it to my ex And like shoot it in his ass I'm like oh it's so nasty You were dating all kinds of different bodybuilder dudes I bet
Starting point is 00:11:38 One You had to wipe their ass for him? No None that got that big No And everything else is not big either Oh no But that's not how that works though is it
Starting point is 00:11:51 Because it's it makes your ball is smaller I actually haven't been with a lot of bodybuilding. People think with my physique, like, I've even dated a guy who was super skinny. Like, he looks like, I hope he doesn't watch us. He looks like super, like, you know, sickly skinny almost. You like a Pete Davidson? No, but he's tall. He makes up for it, you know, with his height.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Right, but they could be gangly like that? Yeah, I think it's, because me, I'm a lover. I'm a big, big lover. Okay. You can fuck with a dad bod? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:17 My last guy, total dadbod, total. Really? Totally. Like, if you've seen him, you'd be like, no way. Because as a guy with an objective dad bought, I kind of like just assume... You don't know way. I think you look great. No, I got a gut.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But I got a gut. But like, you always assume that like... You just sucked in and I just saw it. Wow. Oh, my. You assume that chicks who are in super good shape only fuck with other dudes who are in super good shape. That's not true. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Maybe it's like a pink I have like... But that's like in porn too. You didn't do cardio today. One of the main things... The main things I hear from girls who do porn is that every dude says some weird shit about like oh my dick is in as big as the porn guys or whatever like they always think that that's going to be like a big deal to the girl and the girls always say that it's not yeah i think it's it's definitely chemistry for women like i don't know i'm at a point meaningless sex it's just
Starting point is 00:13:07 not it like i don't like i want the real deal you know that connection how was the dick supply in the military i actually was only in long relationships with guys who were gone nine months out of the year like i don't even know why Yes, I don't even know why I was. I looked back and I'm like, why was I proud that I just stood there, like, for all this time, not being happy. That's the culture. You've got to hold them down. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:32 A lot of my story has been, like, me being just so, like, to the point of it's actually made me, you know, screwed me up a couple times. But every relationship. If my girl. But I was faithful. I was, like, sitting there, like, while he was out, you know, cheating with me. Oh, so you always knew they were cheating? No, no, no, no. I was, no.
Starting point is 00:13:50 No, actually, I found out. And then I said by. If you're in a relationship and then the relationship ends, you're going to feel like you wasted some fucking time on it, no matter what. I said, look, I'm in my prime. Like, don't wait. Which I'm always in my prime. But girls always say that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I said, do not waste my time. Like, you know, what a coward. Like, couldn't just break up with, like, instead. Because he couldn't leave me. Like, I don't know why guys can't just leave me when I want you to. Especially that time. At what point do you get out of the bodybuilding shit and become more of like a normal human model? how big a decision was that?
Starting point is 00:14:23 You know what? It actually took my body like a year and a half just to stabilize because if I even had no salt like my coach had me on like a really unhealthy kind of diet and I don't think I don't think you have to be to be that low in body fat Yeah I don't think he now I look back I'm like he didn't know what he was doing
Starting point is 00:14:41 Like it was not good But yeah I had no salt in my diet So the second I took salt I would right away like swell up inflammation. I had really bad inflammation from eating. So you're just on permanent, no salt because it holds water and makes you look a little
Starting point is 00:14:57 fatter? So for my body to balance out, it took a long time. Like it took a year and a half at least for it to get, like now I can go out and eat something and I'm like, my body next day I'll have abs or like, you know, I don't freak out, but before if I took anything in my body would just like because it would think it's going to get starved again.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Wow, that's crazy. So I went through like a lot of eating, but now I'm just, I'm super happy with where I have a healthy relationship. But dude body Builders like bulk up in between contests to get bigger. Were you not doing that? We're just staying like super fucking rail thin all the time? No, the problem is like going so strict and then they'd be like, okay, now you're done.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And I didn't have like a diet afterwards. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. I was like eating, you know, like it was my last meal. You know what I mean? So I had a really bad problem like trying to figure that like healthy medium. But yeah, you definitely, you need an after diet. Like that's the most important thing is like after competition, what you do. And it's so hard on your body, like, you know, just for an award, which...
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's so crazy to me because it comes from the most healthy desire to, like, eat good and get some exercise. It's like, that's the best advice you can give any random person. And then people in bodybuilding are people who just took that advice way too serious. I like how I feel. Like, you know, they get that hot. You can see the guys that were like, this is my fucking best time. Like, right here in the gym, like, this is my shit. You ever look in the mirror and just think, like, oh, my bicep looks good.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm always checking myself out. Bodybuilder dudes are the dudes who did that, and they were like, fuck, I'm basing my whole life on that. Yeah, they just, that's kind of crazy. That one feeling. No, I think that. And especially, like, the dudes because they're dying in their 40s and shit because they're so gnarly with the drugs.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh, my gosh. Seeing some of them up there was, like, scary. They're, like, shaken up there, like, especially because they have different divisions and they have the different age groups. It's, like, so sad that this guy was in there for 20 years, and he finally got the award. I remember. It was like 20, something crazy. But yeah, it took him that long. Like, damn, just give the guy like a participation reward or something.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Wow. Because that's not easy. So then did you ever like get bigger at any point? Like, did you ever like just be like, fuck it. I'm going to gain 30 pounds. See what it feels like. Or did you just kind of. No. I mean, I accidentally did. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I accidentally did like, you know, through eating too much or whatever. But now I have like healthy weight because I'm much more. I know what I'm doing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:21 And you should, by your 30, like, you should know what your body's doing, you know? Right. And so how much money were you making while you were in the military? And what were you making from? Was it, like, private snap or some shit at the time? You know, it's funny? No, I never did anything, anything bad. Like, I had Patreon, and I did Wonder Woman, and I did cosplay.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But it was like, and I did little pictures that I signed that I would mail out. But that was it. I never did anything sexual. Like, that was never, ever in my mind was, like, taking money from. from men and how to do it while it was in the military ever. Oh, okay. So you got on to OnlyFans later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, no, no. They didn't even have that. And, yeah, I never. Do you wish you had seen that vision earlier on? You left a lot of money on the table realistically. I mean, a lot of girls. People were waiting. People were waiting.
Starting point is 00:18:10 When are you going to do it? Right. Where's the girl in the uniform? I'm going to. So what do they actually kick you out for? So I didn't get kicked out. Let's clarify this. They demoted you.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Not. Yes. So right towards the end, it was like six months out, like they wanted to make an example of me. So basically, you know, being as big as I was in the military, I was getting a lot of attention. And I was selling waste trainers. And I was selling, like Alicia Fitness.com, had my own business. I was a little hustler since day one. And there's nothing comparable. There's nothing comparable that other dudes were doing in the military. Like our dudes selling supplements and shit. Like, you were like the only one doing this kind of shit. Yeah. And people were on, I was on social media. So everyone. like wow there's this girl that's doing things outside of the box and right and I would make more money and I drop one sale I'd be like yo I'm gonna do a booty sale and I don't know why I keep burping it's hot it's probably like it people love burps people do that they do that oh ASMR my girl literally lays in bed and watches that shit does I do it okay yeah it's fucking weird I mean that's not like the kind of mic that they use but it's close enough okay they use like crazy sensitive mics so
Starting point is 00:19:20 but it's like even more intense. I love how we keep going off subject. But also this room is big and echoey, so I don't think it would be good for ASMR. They need to do it in like a little thing that holds all the sound in. He's excited. You should do this for a podcast
Starting point is 00:19:33 where it's straight up just... I mean, if I knew that I could just sit in front of a fucking microphone and like whisper about some shit and have like a popping second channel, I guess I would probably spare like 20 minutes a week to do it, but it seems fucking like the dumbest thing on earth to base your channel.
Starting point is 00:19:50 around. People love it. I always see on TikTok, I'm like, but where were you going with this question? I forgot. Um, them demoting you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so there's more than just that. So I basically, um, but I didn't know this. So I'm going to work doing my thing. I'm putting in like five hours at the gym and like posting and just like, but focusing on me, never on anybody else. Everyone loved me at work because I was always like a bubbly personality. And I think I'm pretty cool and likable. And, um, yeah, it was the morrow. person. Like, people missed me when I was gone. So you were generally well-liked.
Starting point is 00:20:24 It wasn't like some shit where you were pissing everybody off, so they had to find a reason to fuck with you. Oh, no, no, no, no. So this is all like higher up in the chain. Like I, this is just what I've like come to. This isn't like, you know, 100% in fact, but it was somebody up, up the chain. It had to have been to make it happen as big as it did. So there's people who even get DUIs in the military that don't get Article 15s. So to get like an Article 15, it's Basically, the military just is done with you. Like, they're done with you. And it was crazy because it happened six months out, like six months before I was getting out.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And they got mad because I did a side by side. So I did a waist trainer and I was selling it. And I had one where I was in a uniform and next to it in the waist trainer. Well, technically that's like saying, like if somebody looked at it, like, oh, that's the military promoting that. Like, who's that stupid enough? But think about it. If I posted the waste trainer and then the picture in the uniform, that was fine.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like obviously I'm in the military. That's fine. But they just couldn't be next to each other in one post. Right. So basically, and then once that happens, like, you can't do anything wrong. You can't even come to late work. You can't, like, your stripe is taken away. And once the military has their eye on you, it's very easy to fuck up.
Starting point is 00:21:35 So you chose to leave? If they want to fuck you up, they're going to fuck you up. You chose to leave or something else happened after that? Well, I was supposed to leave, you know, normally with my rank, you know? Right. And then I came to work. And then the attorney that even was in the Air Force, she asked me. She's like, did you sleep with somebody higher, like, ranking?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Because you're not supposed to if you're enlisted. I was like, no, I literally stay in my lane, do my thing. And she couldn't believe it. She looked at my record. I have my degree. I have, like, six troops underneath me. I'm in charge of the doctor's schedule. Like, it's, you know, what I've accomplished.
Starting point is 00:22:12 She's like, there's nothing on your record, like, nothing bad. Like, how is this happening? So basically, and at the time, I had no support. I was in England by myself. Like, that was when I hit, like, my first really, like, like, rock bottom. Like, my pride got hit really hard with that. Right. Damn.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. So what did you do from there? From there on, my anxiety, like, I always dealt with anxiety, but I never had it so bad. Like, I had panic attacks every day. Like, they took me away from patient care, so I couldn't see pay. I couldn't do what I loved. You know, they put me behind a desk. Like, I loved interacting with people.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You know, you put behind the desk, of course, I'm being. you know, miserable. So I was miserable. You know, I showed up late to work. Just more shit happened because I never had anything like that happened. You know what I mean? And I didn't have the support that I needed at that time. So it was really hard.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Like, it was hard walking around without, you know, my troops would be, like, calling me airmen while I was used to, while I was in charge of them. You know what I mean? It does something to your pride. Right. So, but it was just funny because I became famous from it, from the military. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So it's kind of like, you can't stop what's going to happen, guys. Yeah, because, I mean, it becomes a big part of your identity. So then when you kind of have to say goodbye to it, you got to sort of rebuild and like start to see yourself in a different light. Yeah, definitely. I had a hard transition. Right. So how did you sort of get through that? So I came to L.A.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And, yeah, I had a very abusive relationship. And I went from that girl that did bodybuilding that went to Expos that was like super excited about life to like just I lost everything. Like my identity, who I was. I couldn't even look at somebody in the eyes. Like, I mean, it was really bad, you know, and then I started doing drugs and I was drinking and, you know, just to get through it. And so it was, it was really tough. And it took a while. Like, I just recently got out of this whole mess.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Oh, really? So you were in another bad relationship or are you still talking about that one? Yeah, and then after that, it was just, you know, another bad relationship because I wasn't healed. Right. And I was miss tough. I can do it. I'm fine. You know, I don't need a man.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Like, that's been my identity. Like, I don't. don't need a man. Right. But then you keep ending up in bad relationship with men. It's like why? You know, if you don't need it, why are you doing it? So it took me like a little bit to get out of it, but I'm so grateful. You're saying you're sober now? So not completely a calorie sober. So you smoke weed. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But I'm working on that. That's something I'm working on. Right. Obviously, I don't want to be numb to anything. I want to have the full experience, you know, of things. Right. But yeah, definitely drinking. That was my, that was my baby.
Starting point is 00:24:44 you got a little too into it yeah right that was definitely like I was just you know covering up my pain and eventually that caught up to me but you're telling me that you're not going to get in another relationship with a dude until he uh seems like he is gonna be able to have a therapist because you know with me I can I attract a lot of guys you know
Starting point is 00:25:03 and I tracked like unfortunately a lot of the bad ones you know because of my you know my energy I don't know my boss like they want to tame me or something right so I do have to be very careful and like I've taken the time to be by myself like even when I fought black china I didn't have a guy by me I didn't I did that all by myself I quit drinking not by myself I had to support but you know what I mean so how they how they hit you up about this black china idea am I missing anything that happened in your life between that stuff and black china so much
Starting point is 00:25:34 but you hit you hit the main you don't have to give us every last ounce of trauma yeah I know shit this is she going to be okay okay so How do you even get contented by that? Because I think who did they wanted to fight it first? There was somebody else. No, they didn't. I think they put some, I don't know who she was. She's some strip brother stripper or something.
Starting point is 00:25:55 There was some like joke going around that she was going to fight somebody else. I forget. And then you actually ended up being like the reasonable person who would actually do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we didn't want to tell if we wanted it to be like a surprise. So I knew for a while. It was just funny because I got sober. I got rid of the toxic relationship.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And then I had this amazing opportunity. he called me. He's like, you want to fight Black China? And I'm like, fuck, yes. Like, put me on. It's a great, you know. You have any particular animosity towards her previous to this? No, no. Did you know who she was? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right away. But not like, you didn't know much about her? No, no, no. I just had one encounter with her baby daddy, which he was an asshole.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Tiger? Yeah. It didn't work out? No, no, no. He was just kind of like an asshole. Oh, okay. But it's kind of funny because I'm like, but I beat your baby mama. You should tell him. You should come up and thank me. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Here's your platform. You got to do what he probably wanted to do a few times. Come up and think me next time. Don't be an asshole. You never know who you're going to meet. You never know what they can do. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So they tell you that this is going to happen. How much time do you actually have to prepare? Not enough time for a not enough time. A month and a half. Like you people train for years. You know, you see Jake Paul and all that. Like it's crazy. The training.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And I did two days. Like I was dedicated. If I put my mind to something, that's been my theme in life. Like if I put my mind into something, I do it. Because you had never boxed before this? No, no, no, no. I did karate, you know, but karate is totally different. It was when you're younger, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:21 You get the... Right, you get the movement out there. It's not really telling you much about how to box. No, you're just hitting each other. You got the sparring gear and the mouthpiece and you're just like wailing on each other. Right. So you start doing this and then like, how was the training overall, though? Do you feel like you actually became a pretty decent boxer by the end of it?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Decent. I'm still boxing because I want to be better. There's so much to it and technique that, you... You can't just learn it very quickly. When I watched you box her, it really stood out to me that you just looked way more athletic and way bigger and stronger. She was just a little bit shorter than me. But, I mean, she definitely, she got a bigger booty than me, for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But she wasn't, you can tell she's not like, you know, she's got. That's probably a liability, if anything. It's probably fucking up your balance or something. Yeah, maybe that's what it was because she kept going back. There's no way that having a giant fake asses is an advantage in any kind of athletic competition. No, no, no, definitely. Maybe it keeps you grounded more, like, but she still fell over.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I love that, but you know what she said? She said I was street fighting. She got mad at me when every time the bell rang, she hit. Like, that's when she hit me. She doesn't seem like the type of person to really take much responsibility. No, I couldn't believe she got so mad at the end.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Like, even though she sucker punched me at the end, like after the bell rang, I still was like, you know, we're fighting, we're immature, like, let's hug it out. Nobody died. I told her, I even hugged her. And she wouldn't embrace you after? Yeah, I even hugged her. Like, in front of the camera, she did.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And then we got behind stage. She got so mad. Her trainer tried to fight me. What? It was like, did you sign an NDA? Like, crazy lady. She definitely was like her claim to fame was she fought Kim Kardashian, her trainer. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. She fought her in real life? Yeah. Really? Yeah, they did a boxing match like way back in the day. Oh, okay, boxing match, right. So this angry trainer, like, she came in there and she was trying to fight me. I'm like, I just fought Black China.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You really think I'm going to sit here and fight you? Right. they had enough security but she was just mad because I don't think she expected it to go that way but because you know she did boxing for like as a stripper she did boxing right so she thought she was going to take an easy debut there huh and it was just going to launch her career they just said for us to fight it didn't tell us how much you get paid I can't disclose that it seemed fair um for me it was more of like a great opportunity for a challenge you know what I mean it wasn't so much for the You get a big only fans boost as a result of something like that?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh, I was on the shade room. I was on TMC. I was like... Right. They're like, who is Alicia Megan? I'm like, well, now you know. Black China's op. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Do you see her when she came on this podcast? No, I didn't actually watch that. Pretty fucking funny. I tried to talk to her for like 20 minutes or something, and she's just not having it. And she ends up walking out on me. Why? What did you say to her?
Starting point is 00:30:06 I can't imagine you being like... Well, the problem started because, okay, bathrooms are pretty decent here. We really went out of our way to get decent bathrooms. At our old spot, the bathroom was a little bit more crusty, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Maybe, I don't know. I forget exactly. But it definitely wasn't totally clean or whatever. But it was kind of like a normal bathroom that you would see in like a warehouse or like the average work environment. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's not like you're at a hotel. Yeah, it's like if you're a normal human being, that kind of bathroom is just like a normal fucking bathroom. But I guess she's just been living in the lap of luxury for so long that she thought it was completely disgusting. And she just, she said, she's like, oh, no, I'm not going to pee. I'll just do the interview. And I'm just thinking like, who the fuck would want to do an interview while you have to pee?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like, I'd be like, okay, are we done or not? Yeah, if I got to pee, I got to pee. Like, I'm not, like, able to focus on shit if I really have to piss that bad. So then she does the interview and it's like, I'm trying to, like, talk to her about normal shit. She wants to talk about her music career, which is a joke. And I, uh, I just, like, keep bringing it. Then, like, towards the end of it, I, like, start bringing up rappers that she dated or whatever. and just being like, well, what about him?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like, she's just not fucking with that. Oh. But I only did that because she just was giving me nothing. So I'm like, well, at least I'm just going to ask her about the shit that the fans actually want to know about so that she can get mad at me because I knew she was going to get mad at me. I was just like, fuck it, I'll just do this. And then I know she's going to get pissed off.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I kind of knew she was going to walk out. It's like you're in an interview. You got to elaborate. You got to talk about it. You can't give yes and no answers. Terrible. Yeah, she was not happy to be there. Like, she looked very, very forced.
Starting point is 00:31:38 she was nice so she was like oh you look good I texted her before but then afterwards she went and got her head checked and everything was traumatic did you hear my rap my little disc track I didn't that's on YouTube it was good and I was like got your baby dad is wishing they could have it that's in what you want
Starting point is 00:31:54 anyways it wasn't a hit okay it was just a fun little disc track you were just having a good time with it yeah yeah yeah okay yeah no damn I didn't hear it what no I'm trying to promote my song You got that? I just haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I can't believe I missed it on YouTube. Do you have like a rap name? I had a little music video and everything. Oh, I'm really like lacking on my research here. It was legit. Damn. So what a. Air Force veteran rapper.
Starting point is 00:32:22 There it is. What, uh, what doors did this open for you in terms of like career advancement after a weapon by China? I'm here with Adam 22 on the best podcast ever. The coolest podcast in the world also. story in my truth and hopefully you know help people that are stuck in shit and don't think that they can do shit and you can right i'm just saying like you know when you have an opportunity like that it's like there's like a certain period of time where maybe you feel like you need to capitalize
Starting point is 00:32:52 on it like have you been able to like kind of like do you think that you have more fights coming up like what do you planning on doing with this energy yeah i have a lot of yeah i have a lot of energy and now that I feel like I'm healed and I have a voice, like I'm going to start using my platform to help people tell my story but also yes, definitely fighting. Like I love competitions.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I love fighting and I think it that's like one of the most amazing experiences. Like it's a very, very like, oh wow, this is a good high. You know what I mean? And it was cool accomplishment. I definitely do it again for sure. But next time I want to come in there like a pro.
Starting point is 00:33:26 It was very like, I will tell you if you actually, you know boxing. It was very like, Like, you know, celebrity boxing, you could say. Right. I mean, it wasn't the most serious. But hey, all the YouTube fighters, like, they say Jake Paul is fucking vicious these days. I mean, he started off as a YouTube boxer, right?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah, I mean, I definitely can do it. Definitely more doors are opening, but more to come and, you know. Right. So the streets probably ask you all the time what's going on with your only fan's career. Are you ever crossing over to the dark side of, like, actual porn, or are you just posting bikini pictures? And then, done. Everybody wants to know that. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:08 One, baby. No, no, no. No, not at this farm in my game, I don't feel like I need to. I make really good money without doing that. Right. And, yeah, I'm looking for a man eventually, so not trying to go too far. I'm already a lot to handle, so I'm not trying to be like. You're looking for a man who's going to do only fans with you?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Or are you looking for a man You don't want him to have to worry about your past Only fans career I just want to do what I want to do in live life And, you know, Only fans definitely not my passion It's a quick buck, but it's not like Oh yeah What else do you see yourself doing with your talents
Starting point is 00:34:45 Just really motivating people You know, all the experiences I've had And how far, you know, this little girl from Nebraska You know, from nothing You know, came and look at me You know, trying to help people and, you know, like a lot of people would be like, hell no, I'm not going to box somebody. And I took it that challenge and I literally just got sober at the same time.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It was just such a great accomplishment. So I've already done so much in this short amount of time. Like, I can't imagine what's going to be ahead of me. Like, I don't know, God's will. He has amazing things stored for me all the time. Definitely. But definitely only fans won't be my trait forever. So make sure to subscribe and get it now while you can.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Woo. The best thing about, by trying to walk out on us was the fact that she had like a manager sitting on the couch and that he just came up to me and he was just like all right bro take care appreciate you like no like sorry
Starting point is 00:35:38 but it was nothing to him like it was like me and him were still cool like it was obvious he was like yeah like it's all good like he wasn't really phased by it which I thought was kind of amazing because for the average celebrity them walking out of an interview is like a very like unexpected thing that you would you know it stands out
Starting point is 00:35:55 a lot I'm gonna get it. He was zero percent shocked that's crazy oh you want to walk out now I'm gonna walk out I'm gonna just be an ass I'm gonna try to think of something really offensive to say ah no fuck the Air Force oh no I'm just gonna take it back you need them we all support the troops we need that protection true we need an iron dome yeah this world is getting crazy do we have an iron dome or is that just Israel we need that doesn't Israel have an iron dome it sounds funny the way I say I haven't heard this I don't watch a news so depressing. No, because fucking Palestine
Starting point is 00:36:29 be sending rockets over and they got all the technology so they can shoot the rockets out of the air. And then they bombed the fuck out of them. We need that just in the streets of L.A. We need that just in the streets of L.A. Like, bomb Compton? No, freaking protection. Just. Well, no one's bombing us. What do we need protection against?
Starting point is 00:36:45 No, but L.A. is crazy. Yeah, but who are we going to bomb? Oh, I see what's just, okay. We can't treat the Crips like we treat Al-Qaeda. You can't just, like, bomb a Crip neighborhood because there's like one gangly. No, I'm not promoting that. If you actually think about that, that kind of draws attention to you as like how fucked up that is. Although I guess like, hey, terrorists are dangerous enough that we got to blow up them and their family.
Starting point is 00:37:06 They're everywhere. Right. Damn. It's crazy. Especially in Miami. There's a lot. Of terrorists? A lot of crazy people.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh. Probably not too. I'm like, you should tell the local police department if you know of any terrorist in your local neighborhood. That's my public service announcement. Kids. Hey, Alicia Megan, that's why I'm over there. That's what you're standing for. I'm still working for the government, but...
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, like, every celebrity needs, like, a message, you know? It would be boring for you to be like, yeah, like, go abortion. Yeah. Be like fucking rat out of terrorists. Yeah, I think that's my calling. Yeah. I mean, it seems like common sense, but people probably... I've had a couple lives where some guy was saying some crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah? I was like, I need to report this. You had a stalker? No, but I've had so many. Yeah. But, like, just emailing the shit? No, came, flew from Arizona, came to my house on Christmas to get married. How did you find your house?
Starting point is 00:38:03 I don't know. Apparently, I should not put this information out there. But yeah, I don't know. So I don't know how he did it. And he showed up. I called the police. He was still, like, in denial. Was he like a frazzled army vet?
Starting point is 00:38:18 He was. That is so weird that you are saying this. I'm not going to say jarhead because I think that that's offensive. Just too. They're like, I don't know if we're... Right. Is Jarhead offensive? Is that like the N-word for people in the military?
Starting point is 00:38:31 No. No, I don't think so. But I'm not... Well, I think that's a Marine, so... It just feels like it would be offensive to be like, yo, your trauma from serving our country has made you, like, inoperable. That just, like, seems like an offensive thing, regardless of what the slur is. Yeah, but we say...
Starting point is 00:38:48 In the military, you said a lot of offensive things. Oh, yeah? Is the military woke? That's what we hear now. Oh, it? Are they? I don't can't even imagine what it's like now. I see a lot of people tweeting about how woke the military is. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:00 I don't know how much I believe it. I don't know. I was there when the transgender just got accepted and it was like very... So you were kicking it with them? My troop was... You had a trans or two? That showed up? It changed while I was in a military.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Oh, while you were doing it. So they were like waiting to do it. Yeah. And then they, like they... We obviously knew like she was very like tomboy and had short hair. Wow. So then she, yeah, but then you know, what's crazy is that, you know, Donald Trump said, hey, we can't do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And did he reverse that? I don't know. I don't know if while you got it, you got accepted because I can't imagine them just kicking them out. I feel like that's one of those things that Trump, like, said to get some retweets and then never actually did anything about. He had many positions. And I'm sure a lot of the people would take it anyways. People were always trying to get out left and right.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. Not me, though. I was hanging in nine years, baby. I'll become a chick to go out of the military for sure. Huh? If I got to become a chick to get out of the military, I'm doing it. I'm all about self-preservation. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I could never serve. Thank God my tax dollars can support them. I saw the women when they were older in the military, like retired. I'm like, I can't look like that. Why they look like they look rough? Really? Why? It's that stressful even if you don't really like see that much combat?
Starting point is 00:40:13 You're working like 10-hour days. Like they really over, they work you really hard. Like especially like I don't want to. People in other branch are going to be like, she's a buzzer. She's in the Air Force. But they do. They exert. you you know like if you're low manned and you got to work with what you got to work with and that's
Starting point is 00:40:30 time people's time we were doing cleanings like like a drive-thru like right like that's what i did it's interesting because i know that this is like a niche in like only fans or whatever because we had another girl on this podcast who told us that she was like a a military chick like her whole fan base somehow she gained it from the military and that that's why they liked her is because she had been in the military like it's a thing it's a thing it's definitely like you know it's a when you come to the civilian world that you definitely see like people are different you know because there you have the same ring no one's really after you but when you get in the real world like it's different people are definitely like it's like
Starting point is 00:41:07 it's like when a gang member finds out a girl knows about gang member stuff like they're bonded i've seen it i've seen the conversation where like two people that like realize that like they know about the same yeah street culture type stuff you know that this i see you and i know that you cocaine. Did. Did. I'm not trying to lie, okay? No, but okay, one time I was in a bar and I'm sitting there talking to this girl and there's another dude in the bar and there's not that many people in the bar and he has like, he's a white
Starting point is 00:41:39 guy and he has like hella face tattoos and shit, right? And it's weird because like as white dudes, you're not really like used to like if a white guy walks by another white guy, it's not like a confrontation is needed. Realistically, that's just not a thing. And like realistically in the LA on some like gang shit, that is a thing. But like she said something like real loud and drunkenly about like, oh, you and this other guy, oh, they got a face tattoo, bra, bra, bra, bra. And he's like, he's not just a white guy with face tattoos. He's like got a mean look on his face.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Like you could tell he thinks he's tough or whatever. And it was a weird feeling of me being like, uh, bitch, shut the fuck up because you're about to start a fucking fight in this bar. And it's going to be real awkward if I have to like do battle with this dude over like who's the toughest white boy in this bar. But it was like, I don't know. The circumstances actually seemed like it might lead to that. And I was like, this is very unique. Like, I never normally feel like this. Like, I need to compete for like top white boy.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you do well. I think you do well. You think I're going to be top white boy? Yeah, I think you're definitely up there. That's the definite natural successor to top boy. You ever watch that? Oh, amazing TV show.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I didn't have TV growing up. I'm behind on all that. Top white boy. I'm going to go with, actually, that could be my mixtape title. Yeah, I like it. I see it. I think I'm going to have to dethrone Jack Harlow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:53 He's pretty much the littest white boy right now. I know. I'm not into all that celebrity stuff, though. Eminem is, you don't know who Jack Harlow is? No, I do. Oh, okay. Eminem is the goat, white boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:03 No, he's... What's he doing it anymore? Probably nothing. He doesn't seem like you like, he doesn't seem like you like, should go outside much. I mean, like, think about it. It's not like you ever, like, had a girl come out and be like, oh, I was fucking Eminem. Like, how...
Starting point is 00:43:16 I know. That's interesting. He must, maybe he pays him really good. I guess he cares about his privacy enough. No, because he's... Or he really knows the girls. He said at one point... who is he fucking we don't know he's probably keeping a secret but salibate or fucking nobody's so angry he's
Starting point is 00:43:31 so angry he said he loved the pandemic because he actually like put on a mask and went out and rode his bike around in the projects and shit not in the projects probably but like in shittier neighborhoods you know and he finally felt like oh i get to act like a normal person yeah yeah yeah well we're all dying like oh my god right it's cool i got vaccines already while you were all like i got rapper privilege I'm on this bike in your neighborhood while you're dying of COVID. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
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