No Jumper - The B-Lovee Interview: Growing Up with Kay Flock, Ice Spice Dropping Off His Tour & More

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

B-Lovee finally made his way to No Jumper, and Adam called Flakko for the assist! Lovee talks about friendship with Kay Flock, his influences, signing for a huge bag, Ice Spice dropping out of his tour, and more! --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I got my man Flocko with me. And today, we got the face of the Bronx. Be Love is in the building. Wait, man, man, come on. Oh, we got a plot. Okay. Man, brus, listen, me, Be love in the building, man.

Come on, though. Let me tell you, I like this guy and everything, but Flacco has made it perfectly clear. This is, like, one of your favorite rappers, and you got a real thing here. Like, okay, so I'm like the Bronx drill, like, Fishiotto, right? So like, I'm the one who kind of, you know, like tap into that. But you actually started off like pretty controversial, man. Like you dive right. Just, just,

just deep into it. Like, fits to the Bronx. Oh, so is that controversial? Yeah. Right. Oh, okay. So this is up for grabs, I'm sure. Yeah. Man, listen, bro, I don't about to get cut off by a thousand niggas on. Oh, see. Did I just do more than I realized? Yes. Oh, fuck, dude. This is why it sucks to be old and white. You forget. You forget half of the shit you watch. watch on YouTube. So I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Just treat me like the old man screaming on the corner. But no, I mean, like you're obviously one of the top guys coming out of the Bronx right now and everything. And yeah, we're happy to have you on here.

So, okay, let's do some of the early life stuff first. Can you tell us a little bit about your upbringing, what your childhood was like? It was just like a, let me hear a journey and a group in the projects. I mean, my mom lived over there by like, like, what you were. 180 second for me so I grew up my son mom bills flocking on me for me certain people we already grew up grew up in a project too colon Nath projects for me with Shaikhai K me we grew up boobabash we were from the same projects for me for me for me just living high people know Colin man right as a big history man cons me man people man free mell email so it's like a whole lot of history going on over there right I keep

getting shocked when I see boova savage And I'm like, holy fuck. Because I remember him when he was like 12 or some shit. And it's like, now he's starting to look like a grown man. I'm like, the fuck is going on, bro. No, yo, he's so entertaining like it's crazy. Yeah. Like he's super, like he's super fired, man.

Right. Yeah, when he first came back from Africa. Oh, really? So he grew up there and then he came here at some point. Oh, I didn't even realize that. Okay. Paa said him back, right? Not one time?

Or no. I'm not sure. I think he went back a little bit, but not for stage. So what was your relationship with music growing up? growing up like what were you listening to when you were young and shit what was your your parents playing everything me my pa's down the rap music old back in the days music like nazzing them to like my uncle listening to meek mill Rick Ross and um little Wayne my mom listening to Mary J. Blas Keisha Cole

Lisa Keys yeah everybody so I was just a me growing up I was a big fan of music already I was heavy listening on the music for sure Yeah. So were you outside from a young age? Or like, what was your actual, like, were you seeing crazy shit go on in your projects in your neighborhood at a young age? Yeah, I started going out. I was having myself young.

I'm young. Sometimes I started to New York kids and they're like, yeah, my parents had me on the subway by myself when I was five. About that young? But I just, like, my house, like, my building was across the street from the park. So I just, for me after a certain way, I just. I started spending off going to the park. Just being outside.

And from the park, it went down the block, around the block, around the block, around the neighborhood. Just seeing crazy stuff. That's how New York is. You just kind of like find an area of the street to hang out on, which is way different than L.A. Yeah. And it's like that. Damn, all right. But you were interested in music the whole time, or when did that become something you were thinking about?

I wasn't never. I just like music. I like listening to music. I fall asleep listening to music. and stuff like that. I'm heavy on the music, but I never was really wanted to make music. So it was like, I was really into sports, like playing sports and for me just being outside. Up until what age were you mostly consumed sports?

When did you start to get out of sports? Well, yeah, I broke my leg. I had to be like 12, 13 years old. And you broke your leg playing football? Nah, I broke my leg in the projects. Oh. Doing what? Play if I am running around.

Damn. Damn, really? Yeah. I just got caught the gate, trying to hop the bench. It was, I mean, my leg broke. And that fucked up your sports career, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even to, like, I just, I couldn't really do nothing.

I was out of commission for me, three months in the projects. Just running, chilling. I wasn't really playing. It was over for that. By the time, the cast came off and all that. It was done? Yeah, it wasn't really trying to play sports no more. I kind of heard, though, you was, like, super nice in football.

Like, is that true? Yeah. Like, how nice, though? Like, okay, if, like, Be Love would have kept playing, like, do you think I went to the league, like, D-1? Now, if I would have really took football serious and really wanted to... Yeah. Yeah, I would have went somewhere.

I know I would have went somewhere because I was really good at it. I was just good at it. I just never really wanted to really sit there and play football because... The streets was calling? Running back, right? Basically? Yeah. Cornerback.

Wait, wait, hold, a quarterback? Corner, corner. Oh, why, bro. I'm gonna say, hold up now, bro. Vela's throwing like 90-year-old bombs and shit now? Yeah, I used to play basketball too. I used to play for my middle school, playing there, carry, or crazy. I ain't never really was able to really take any sports serious.

I know to play baseball and all that. Baseball? Yeah. How did a New York kid, like, get into baseball? Because that's kind of like a suburban thing, right? Like, we're just kind of like... Yeah. My family living in the South, Georgia and all lives.

So I used to be playing baseball down there. I used to play baseball in the Bronx. Just to walk in the Bronx? Yeah, because I was like in my colonel. Mad Dominicans? Nah, yeah, it was. We had Mad Dominicans, but our football field was really a baseball field. Gotcha.

So it's like people playing baseball, we're just playing baseball before. Right. So when you get out of the sports thing, you're doing what, just like hanging out in the neighborhood and just getting into trouble and shit? Yeah. anything right you just run around the projects get bored doing anything anything in the projects getting in trouble right I just took over so when you actually get into rapping though I was like I made I made three songs of my boy Vito we had made three

songs in like 2015 so I had to be like 14 15 yeah I was like around that age Then we stopped. After those three songs, we dropped them. I remember I did a remix of Kodak Black Skriller and Two other songs to some other beats and then it was just like we just stopped I just stopped after that Really why did you stop I don't know because we was just chilling one day and we just ended up going to the studio making songs and I never did it I never went again Right yeah so what made you get re-interested in it? We was pandemic we're stuck in a pandemic nothing else to really do

so our boy Aange had the studio on his crib we already had rappers in the neighborhood like A.I. Colin my boy Taj so they was already making music and we was already

seeing what's going on. Right. And we was up there bull just making music one time and then everybody's in a little Bronx started heating up. Yeah. Yeah. And that's when we just started just doing that.

We ain't really have nothing else to do because once we outside doing bullshit all day, and it's enough of that. We're in the crib chilling, not really doing that. When do you actually feel like you started making drill music? Or were you always? Yeah, that's the fact, because we wasn't making drill music at first. Yeah, that's what I figure.

So we was making regular music. We probably started making drill music like 2020, around, like 2019, and then of it. Right. Yeah. Who do you feel like influenced you to go in that direction? The politics, I ain't gonna lie. The politics definitely gonna push you in that direction.

I was beefing, like, listen too much on track. But also, when you say drill music, it's like, there's like, I mean, Ice Spice is making drum music, right? But then there's also like political, you know, street music. There's basically two different meanings of drill music at the same time. Like we all know a little kid could make like a drill song and it's kind of different.

Whereas he could make a song just in his ops, and it would be a drill song, even if it sounded like a fucking love song or whatever, you know? That's true. It's like, specifically, like, you just, the drill song is like, yeah, like you said, it's two types. But when you're really on some drill, and what we were used on drill, we specifically coming out of people, like you're saying it specifically, like you specifically dissing this person or this cell or whatever it might be. So you had some shit to get off your chest. Yeah, we all did.

I ain't wrong. So how did that, well, this guy is a fucking scientist of the history of Bronx stuff. So I guess I'll let you take the lead here, wherever you want to go with this. No, man, not. Now, here, right? So, like, who do you credit? Here, right, so people will say, like, Chicago, you know, like, influence you guys the most. I think that the UK scene, right?

Right. So who you guys, like, credit more? The UK or, you know, Chicago drill? I'm not going to lie to Chicago because I just tapped into the UK scene. I wasn't really knowing about the U.K. K scene to this year, like, 2021. So, I was a band

listening to Chicago drill 2013, 2013, 2014, 2014, 2015. Everybody make you get on hot already. Yeah. Fags. Hey, right, people will say, too, like, the Brooklyn

drill kind of, like, it influenced you guys, right? Now, like, I said some real controversial stuff, like, bro, like, I'm not credited, like, Brooklyn drill with nothing Bronx, right? Because it's like, come on, bro. Again, like, Bobby and them, those are ghosts, right? Yeah.

But, like, they wasn't making no drill music, right? I can't see, like, a B-love. No, but, okay, we argued about this the other day, where we were saying that Bobby Smurter and them, did it sound like drill music? No, but was it basically, like, content-wise and the image and what it all looked like and stuff? I think it was very important,

and then you kind of have, like, the drill sound coming soon after that, realistically, you know? And he wasn't around. He probably would have, like, started to make music that kind of sounded like that. But he was locked up for like seven years, you know? For sure. Yeah, that's a fight, though.

Yeah. But, okay, is there ever, like, because, okay, we had a crime life cast on here earlier, and I said to him, I'm like, it's not going to be a thing with me love being around you, right? He's like, no, they're from the Bronx. I'm from Brooklyn. That's all good. Is it always like that, or is there ever, like, issues? Like, because if you don't, I mean, like, the Bronx in Brooklyn, you don't,

you're not having beefing nobody, you don't got a situation where unless you got a situation from the past, with them already. Right, like a very specific thing. He's from Brooklyn and I never met him. He's from Brooklyn, like I'm from the Bronx. So whatever they got going on is definitely nothing with me because I'm from hold down another burrow. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Unless you're two to G's though. Yeah. Yeah. You want to go into that? No, no, hey. What? No. You tell me, whatever you want to say.

Nah, not, not. Now, listen, because he always this, bro, bro. Bro, bro, that didn't get got an issue with everybody, man. You know, that's it. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. So he has issues with everybody. I didn't know that.

No? I'm an old man, dude, I'm telling you. You got to tell me. Hey, my question for you, right? So do you feel like, for example, right? And he would say that, like, in his vernacular, and he's like the godfather of, let's say, like, drill music, period. And in New York, would you, like, credit him, him being, like, the godfather of,

I guess, like, drill music? I mean, he got his spot in there. I used to listen to two, too. Back in the day, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, but he, Chef G and them was, for me, they was, to me, they was better. So he can't have that. Like, but he was definitely, you know, he was somebody in the Brooklyn Drill movement.

And the Neneid movement, they had a Brooklyn drill movement. He was one of them in there, like, but not, not New York. Not New York. Yeah. Yeah, not New York. Yeah, man. Yo, here, right? So, like, I'll fast forward, right, to, like, when my everything dropped, man, right?

Yeah. Bro. First of, right, because, like, you started making music, like, during the freaking pandemic. So, like, that's a quick, like, that... Bro, that's a rise that's, like, almost never happens, right? That shit went quick. Yeah. When that song dropped, man, how crazy did, like, your life go?

My life, like... Mad money now. Hose is crazy. You feel what I'm? deals probably be inside. How quickly did it happen? Yeah. Damn, it happened fast.

Like probably a month, two months. That's, bro, that's nuts. Right now, like, when did you realize that this song is taking off crazy? It was out. It got leaked. I didn't drop it. I dropped it probably three months later. Yeah.

So it was leaked already. And it was just a TikTok on TikTok going, boom, boom, boom. One day for me. They did 1K videos. I mean, the next day is at 20K videos. Yeah. And the next day it's at 100K, 50, 100 years is going up. And you just put it out.

You didn't do anything to make it go up on TikTok or anything because nowadays, a lot of people doing all kinds of weird shit to try to make this shit pop. Somebody leaked it. Right. I can't, I ain't make the dance to it. By the time I got on TikTok and already had to jump on the wave, is because it was already late already. It was already 200K videos made already.

I'm probably the latest one to come on TikTok and start making the videos already to my own song. So it was already leaked. It was going crazy. And like at that time, was you already signed or no? Nah. And like you signed, sign, when? Like, after that drop or what did you sign?

I signed. It wasn't, when I signed, there wasn't an official drop yet. Yeah, it wasn't even officially dropped. Yeah. Because I put it out. Remember, it was leaked for like a month or two. Yeah. It was leaked for a long time.

And everybody was just going off that. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Because obviously, bro, like, when I... As a sample, I had to get it cleared and all that before I could even drop it. Right. But it was just a leaked version.

Oh, shit. Yeah. Yo, getting that... So I'm getting that clear. Now, like, did those folks take, like, 90% of the song? Or, like, how do you get it cleared? I don't know. Yeah.

super honest so you just make the music because like okay hip hop very much like started with samples and then at a certain point everybody realized like oh we like don't have to give any money to the fucking artists that were sampling if we just don't use samples but now samples are huge and the whole drill thing but is your perspective like I don't give a fuck like I'll chop up the bread with whoever fucking is the sample just because it makes the song hotter yeah oh I'm mad at me you clear this song for me if I'm using a respect it. If I'm using your song for my benefits, why not break red or something like that? So I wouldn't really have a problem, clearing it or nothing like that.

But some songs, you can't even clear. Like, I got a song, talk about it. I can't even clear it. Why? Because they won't clear it. So does that something where you're just hoping somebody leaks it? Yeah. I mean, it's out on YouTube.

They let me keep it up on YouTube, but they just won't let me, like, put it out. I'm fine and all that. Yeah. Fikes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then after like you sign

right now, again, first off, like when you see him in person, bro, bro, bro is chained up fresh. Listen, he's not hurting at all, my right?

This nigga is up, right? So now like, I think one of like, like your label mates like said like, yo, yo, yo, like they're signing everybody

there for like 360 deals. So when you hear like shit like that, like obviously you ain't hurting at all, right? Yeah. Like, what's your response to shit like that? What's that?

360 deal? Yeah. What? Who? Here, so a Nazi BK, right? And he came out and said that, yo, bro, like, they sign me into a 360 deal. Be loved, got that 360 deal. Like, they out here.

He's trying. You feel what? He's trying. He's trying. He's trying. I ain't, well, what? Well, first of all, 360 deal is crazy. Yeah.

I don't know 360 deal ever, ever. Yeah. For me. Did you, like, was it a big decision? Like, how much did you have to go through with a lawyer? going over the contract and shit. And did you have offers from a few different labels?

Yeah, we was in a the shit. With Nazi BK is not really like a record deal. Yeah. It's like a fuck is that. It's just like, man, like,

yeah, a production deal. Like, for me, somebody investing in you, and then you, for me, you split, like you get him, you break him off, basically. Mm-hmm.

But his was not my kid, like whatever that. At all. Listen, bro, hey, bro, like, every, listen, man, like, there's different, like, tiers of talents, right? Yeah. So obviously, like, when dealing with Lester, like, you and, like, you're, you know, you know, like, you're, like, you're, like, you know, like, it's giving you that bag, but

for other rappers, you know, you know. Yeah. You know, it's probably different, you know? Yeah. But yeah, what I saw about deal, I was in the rule, my lawyer, by manager, we had a phone. That was just, for me, it was the conversations with them people. And we just have to, for me, pick, right? Like, because we was just going through, going through.

We just went right there, just had to pick. It's crazy because I forgot who I picked first. I did pick Republic first. Oh, really? Yeah. For me, so. But then why do you switch your mind? Yeah, like the next 15 seconds.

Why? I don't know. That baggage is different, though, right? But what do you, are you based? it on like the vibes with the people when you go in there and meet them or are you basing it more on like business shit or money or what like what stood out to you as the most important factors it's really business like how we going like for me that when you certain labels it's different like say if you you know nothing nothing is always perfect like you know

it get hard sometimes uh uh boy you from me down you for me ups and down Like you need somebody to stick with you. Like somebody that's like, you got that connection, they're gonna rock with you. Now that you're signed, do you feel like, like what are the primary things that they're doing that you feel like help you the most and stuff? I don't really know.

Oh, man. I don't really know. Not here, because they like kind of like, bro, like they're their own promotion, meaning like, bro, like niggas just know who B-love is. You feel like me, you drop niggas is jacking. You write, you know, man's posting and go to the block. You write.

So like, there's not much a freaking label can do for you, you feel me? But when I'm seeing you do songs with Coil-Leray and shit, I'm thinking like, oh, that's like a label thing. They're like helping line up shit like that, right? You could put the ass shit like on the couch or whatever for them. They help. The label definitely helped. They put together stuff for me, big stuff.

I mean, they got the, they got, they could put their hands on stuff. I can't put my hands on. Yeah. For me, stuff that's out of my reach for me, they could do for me. So that's definitely a big hand and shit. Yo, I, like, heard that, like, you got signed for something massive, bro. Now, again, again, I can, like, just, like, throw out a number, right? But, like, I heard that bro got $5 million.

Is that true? Oh, no. Bro, sad. Sad, digger, hell now, bro. Don't make that shit hot. Fuck, no, right? Yo. Was that life-changing?

I'm out of money. You're chilling. You gotta just do it the right way. Right. I mean, anything, you could go down off anything to me, to be honest. But how have you, like, changed your life since you signed or whatever? Like, since all this shit happened, like, what are the first biggest things that you wanted to upgrade? Like, where you were staying at or the car situation, or what was it?

It was really, like, I was still in the hug. I am not going to lie. First month, two months, I signed. I was still in the hood. Yeah. For me, I was still living in the peas. For me, money on me, bred up. For me, still in the peas.

I was never really thinking like that. I was just, for me, wanted to do everything. Wanted to have. For me, just thinking like a regular person. Did anybody tell you, though, like, hey, if you're going to take this music shit serious, you're probably going to have to stay out the streets? That's a five. That's a five guy.

You were around back then? He has a very sweet-looking manager that we're interested in. roll in this. Hey, telling me like, I like a lot, bro. You got to, for me, you got to tweak off. You got to get a potter. Mm-hmm. You got to move around.

I'm still chilling. Eventually, I moved around for me. You got to, though. For me, just staying out the streets and all that, bro. It'd be heavy. Thanks. No. Can you give me the timeline when you and Kay Flock and then started doing music?

Like, how did this play out? All right, boom. most well at the time like how I would really yeah just like how you all came together like how long had you been knowing him

I've been knowing him from like from years back since middle school as he was young like I was like 13 when I met him 14 for me so he had to be like 12 for me

11 bags met him because I'm My mom used to live on that side. I used to go to school over there and all that. And his best friend was my class. So after school, when they like, yo, pull up, uh, uh,

we have to go pick my manza from school and then happen to be him. KK and Jojo, me, picked them up. And then ever since, we were just chilling, wilding, doing what we do, chilling, smoking up. And every day, we were having a couple days, we just start linking up, thinking up. Then we just knew each other from then. That was my boy.

Still my boy. And so were you talking about music from early on or when did that come in? I started like, I boom. So we rapping this shit. Niggas fuck what they saw. For me, I had them pull up. Like, we shooting videos. Like, for me, because niggas from their side is rapping too for me.

And having them pull up, they was putting up the videos. We link in. And we got the stool on our side's pandemic. I mean, we outside. Niggas pulling up to our block for the video shoots. Because end up going to the stool for me. So when I first found out of a K. vlog it was because of a guy from the label that signed him like just mentioned it like or actually

i think i knew about him before that but like he mentioned something about it i go start digging on youtube and i'm just watching mad instagram lives of him running around and the ob's projects doing the craziest shit i ever seen i could not fucking believe my eyes of what i was watching and how wild he was acting was he always having that kind of energy because you're pretty late back I'm gonna be real with you. Word to everything. He was little, skinny, deep voice, wild and bro. Since a kid, like, he always been like that, like, since he was a kid, like, for me, he always been like that.

Like, I ain't gonna lie the same way. Animated. He animated, bro, I ain't a lot. Damn. So like once, how did you guys actually, like, was your early, like, when you first started to get attention musically, was it with him or were you guys coming out? like separately and then you came together. I was making music before. Okay.

Like I was saying before, they was put up for videos, and he had me, he had, when the booth made some music, and we were like, oh nah, what? Yeah, he, bro, he goes crazy. What? Oh, nah, you, you're violent. Like, I had to tell him, like, oh, you bugging, like, how it's that, like, now you tough.

Like, you gotta just, you start playing in the booth heavy, putting up the Ainskrid, making music. They saw, for me outside, back, saw open. it up so little studios was opening up. I was going to studio. He was telling him, like, keep making music. I ain't gonna lie. You know, he was wanting to be wild and do a whole lot.

Tell him, bro, like, yo, make music. I ain't a lie. He was making that flock. It was just natural, bro. It's crazy. It was just natural. No. Like, everybody's saying right there, like, flak, like, fix his voice, but nah, bro.

Like, that's just bro voice, right? Nah, that's how he, since young, he had a deep voice. deep voice. Yeah. Like little kid, deep voice. He's been out of deep voice like like that. So what it start to feel like though when you really started getting this fan base and especially with like the younger generation where they're just all of a sudden obsessed with you guys and the videos start just doing hundreds of thousands and then millions of views? Like what was that like for you to sort of go from just a regular guy to all of a sudden you got a fan base? It was crazy. I ain't gone on. It was tough because we was in pandemic. We couldn't see nobody. So we used fake.

The only thing we had was Instagram and YouTube. We was putting out videos that was handing hundreds of thousands. For me, we were on Instagram, posts, hand hundreds of thousand views. Authentic, too. Yeah. Remember that vlog that Black Dave did on the No Jumber Channel? It was like a live performance with KFlock. It would be.

Yeah, it was like the first fucking, it was like you hadn't seen a live show for Mad Long. And then they did that vlog. And it was like, oh, shit, like they're actually doing shows again. first show i remember our first show back it was at bro that was the first time like for me us out there really on that like performing it was crazy it just felt like a movie i ain't a lot a dream come true no funny right it's coming from the projects like one week we ain't just don't lock down can't do nothing next week it was like we live in our dream right it was crazy so how's it feel having the whole you know group dynamic kind of get fucked up so

early on in the whole process in terms of him getting locked up and everything. What's that been like for you in terms of keeping your career going and everything? And does it feel different that you don't have your boy that you're like with all the time? Hell yeah, hell yeah. Cause mad shit happened, bro.

Like, from even the politics, it broke niggas up. And for me, just, like, out and the wrong people went. Broke people up. For me, bro, it was like, people went to jail. People don't pass away. So it's like, all like, just, there's a way different scene from when we started. But it's on a whole other level.

Like, I ain't gonna lie. It's different. Like, the scene is different now. Like, I'd just be holding. I'd just be staying in myself. Really, like, that's all I'd be on. Like, I used to, I'd be chilling. I'd be on some way back.

For me, I really was outside, man. Yeah, it's and all that. But it's a weird decision for you because it's not even really a decision, but it's like, you know, you could try to be lit in New York on some gangster-ass shit and, you know, all this. Or you could try to, make music that will appeal to a bigger audience which is like i see you going more more in that direction of making music that clearly is trying to not just appeal to this

small group of people who care about new york politics and shit right because you you want to get bigger like you want to get bigger you still could condone it but there's levels to it like what i'm trying to say drill is cool for me it got us where we need to be for me but a real artist you got to be able to do everything a little bit of everything you for i'm trying to say to really get to that level where you want to be, especially if you want to get up there on, for me, posting a little baby and I'm level and stuff like that. You got to switch it up. Yeah.

Yo, like, because, like, music is, like, his main focus. So, like, do you ever get, like, frustrated when people be like, yo, man, like, he's always, like, hanging with people who we don't like or, you know, he's always with the ops, right? But, like, how I see that is, you know, like, you just, like, try to, like, you know, like, say, like, yo, fuck the bullshit. I'm making music. You feel me?

I ain't with the nuts shit, right? So do you get frustrated with. when you hear dudes, like, let's say, like, the lead drilly say, you know, like, he's always messing with the ops, or he's a free agent, you know? Lee Drilly don't even know me. Yeah. What I'm trying to say?

Like, fuck is a free agent. No, facts. I'm trying to say, like, no, yeah. Fuck is a free agent. Like, what are you talking about? Like, anywhere I be is with niggas I know, like, you know. Like, you know, what I'm trying to say? Yeah.

Like I said, nigger, my mom used to live over there, like. Yeah, absolutely. You feel I'm trying to say, I grew up with niggas. Like, I went to school with niggas. There's new niggas since, for me, bro, 10 years old, 8 years old. For me, it's no. What you talking about, a free agent? Like, I'm still in my heart.

Everybody jacked me. Ain't like I came from nowhere. Anywhere I'm at, I've been there 10 plus. I'm not, I don't be nowhere. Like, I ain't going nowhere. Like, niggas want to go over there? I don't know them, niggas. Like, you from what I'm trying to say?

That's the type of nigger I am. Like, I'm only going places where I'm not. No, I'm good. Like, you know I'm trying to say. Yeah. So that could never be the issue. I don't even fuck one niggas or you took him off something.

You found that niggas just beyond. That nigger don't even know me. Yeah. Now, is it true, though, that, like, Sonsei got, like, beat the fuck up after diso you? Yeah.

Bro, nigga, I heard them niggas did them dirty. No comment. He got beat up on his own time, man. Yeah. You feel of me? B-love was not in full of.

You're going with that nut shit, man. Yeah, right. Would you ever, like, so super worried, man, because, again, man, like, having your dog in jail and then the fucking blogs, again, lying-ass blogs, right, posting shit like, yo, K-Flock beat up in jail today, right? Like, you ever like, damn, bro?

Like, is this shit true? Is this shit real? I got, it was, like, five with the guys is on the hollet right now. Yeah. Guys is good, bro. Yeah. We, hey, everybody just doing clickbait

nowadays. You're probably trying to say, like... Mad clickbait. Yeah, have you on the clickbays. Okay, but so I saw some fans who were pissed off at both me and academics after K. Flah got locked up. What's off in that?

Well, just because I guess, like, you know, in our tone when we talked about it, you know, it might have seemed like we were being a little too presumptuous that this happened a certain way. And obviously, like, anytime some shit happens like that, you don't know how the fuck it went down. And so, you know, if your academics or me

or you or whoever, like, if you're just talking about some shit, you know, I've sat on here and had fucking conversations about a situation where somebody got killed, and then a couple months later found out some shit that 100% changed my mind about what happened. And I totally, like, regretted feeling like I was sure about the details of it. But is that weird for you?

Because I'm sure you see people all the way from rappers to whoever acting like, you know, your boy is just done and he's cooked in this situation. I like a lot of people, such people that only, be knowing, like, y'all don't even know what's going on. It'd be crazy. Like, people really think they can know what's going on just from social media.

Like, you might see a lot on social media, but you never going to see enough. You know, I'm trying to say, like, there's no way you think you could find out about this man just from seeing what people post. You really got to be there. Like, you got to be right there because the shit that's being said, being done, not there. So whatever you think you know. So you know a ton of shit we don't know. Exactly.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Is it ever like weird like like like, like, because like you knew these guys like since you were kids, right? Yeah. And now that y'all are adult, it's a weird, weird, right? That now like the drama that's like been going on that now they're fucking like blog pages and shit who are like interested in it and posted. Yeah.

It's just we, we, we, we, we entertainment now. So yeah. They grab that. Good thumbnail, you heard. Yeah. And it's gonna get them up there. Is that weird? Do you watch the documentaries about you and shit?

What? I'll be watching. I'm trying to say I watch documentaries about me and be like, what the fuck it is. They think they know me. Like, they ain't saying anything. You ever want to beat up Swayze for talking about you? Yo, but shout out of Swayze.

Showsy. Swayze, man. Swayze getting cool and cooler about a day, man. I ain't gonna lie, but he used to be on some bullshit. But he getting cooler and cool and cool about a day, man. He's the biggest reason why I even know what the fuck going on in New York because his videos are fucking hilarious. I know.

Are you ever, like, scared, though, that, like, you know, it may not, okay, so, like, maybe not, like, Swayzey, right? But if somebody, let's say, like, takes academics, like, blueprint and run with that and does a war in the Bronx, like, are y'all jacking that or not? What you mean? What you mean? Like, if somebody does the war in the Bronx, and, like, I'm talking about daily, like, stalking your IG pages and talking about who's before.

from who shot and killed, who, like, is that something like you say, you know, you know what, bro, like, you know, that's YouTube,

that's like, you know, that's like the YouTube, that's media shit, but we're not jacking that. We're not going with that. Or, yeah,

we're not jacking at, bro, like, because then, yeah, that's heavy. Like, you know,

I don't even know what's going on, bro. Yeah. Like, what I'm trying to say, because when we grew up, we used to watch those. They're doing those in Chicago.

Yeah, you, what I'm trying to say, and. but you think it's bad for society? Uh? You liked it, like you were watching it, but you think it's bad for the world? Like, hey, bro, when I used to watch it, I used to be like, nah.

Like, why they doing that? Why they're saying that? Why are you describing? Why are you snitching on, niggas? That's what they're doing. They're snitching on niggas. I ain't gonna lie. You solving a crime?

Sometimes literally, yeah. But like, okay, with academics solving, takeoffs, murder, watching the, the clips on Twitch and everything. I mean, on one hand, he's solving the crime, sure. But on the other hand, it's like, he has no obligation to protect anybody, right? But look, they'll be doing that. And I'm like, you just, like, let me not say solving the crime.

Let me say, like, you're making a nigga hot. You is making a nigga hot. Like, you, you don't even know what's going on for real. So now you just put a nigga under pressure. Yeah, because what if you watched, like, you know, a documentary and, like, claiming that you, you know, did terrible things to people, all this crazy shit that's just 100% not true.

Exactly. Because they could do that. Like, you could literally make... They'd be putting drills on niggas. Nickers ain't even do. I could make a video called B-love is a serial killer and just make up a bunch of shit and get a million views.

Realistically, if you did a good enough job... It already happened, though. It's probably, yeah. It already happened. Yeah. I swear if it makes sense, like, if it's... Like, if you really get a post that I say this,

and it adds some little source to it, And they get a post, I say that, they're going to be like, nah, they're going to brainwash them. Oh, this guy's really different. They're going to think I'm a real serial killer. Yeah. Yo, have you seen, like, that video, like, where, like, it's title, Be Love, the Bronx biggest menace. Yeah. I see, oh, what y'all on, bro?

Y'all trying to send me to jail. They try to send me to jail, bro. We got to get those tucking down. A-sop. Yeah, bro. You feel like the cops are on your ass? Or have you mostly like, man, it's to stay out of their way? When you're Adam, it's all y'all, man.

What's going on? I'm out their way, but they still be old diggers. They just be trying to portray niggers. For me, try to make it something real crazy, bro. I'll be out their way, but they always are going to find a way to try to, for me, make it seem like the practices, that would be so bad. Right. But so you moved up out of the hood now?

Yeah. So how often do you feel the need to, like, go back and chill? I'll be chilling. A lot of stuff still in the hood. Sometimes I just be chilling when if I'm around the way. I don't really be out there like that.

But I come through, chill with the guys smoke up and shit. Right. Yo, speaking of Mayor, speaking of Mayor Adams, right? So I think Drewski followed his lead and said... Did we mention him? Speaking of...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, me, right? Yeah, yeah, me, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Here, right, so I think Drewski said, yo, I'm not playing.

no more Bronx songs does this in the opposite? Do you feel like shit like that is helping or hurting? Because if you don't play their songs you know, like now they can't get about the hood. I heard they're making all versions of all the songs that got all that shit's taken out.

All right, look, at the time Drewski, my boy. Yeah, I thought of Drusky. But at the time when he posted it, when All this was started happening, five days before, he was performing that same music. He was about to do a show

with the same music. that for a lot. Like, he had all this is on a, for me, poster, this show, this and that, with that music. For me, that he playing, he know what is, he heard it already. Yeah. For me, so now the next couple days later, the mayor say that, and then now he's saying this. Yeah. You should have been like that from the jump.

On the second, you heard the music, oh, now, this is disgusting music. Yeah. Oh, I'm not jacking that. But you was jacking it. And then now he's saying this, you're not tracking it. But as I sat down, talk to the mayor, me, Fabio, Meno, and our teams, we sat down, talk to him. For me, trying to come to a conclusion when we stop the violin. Even though we know the drill music ain't the reason why people out here getting killed.

He ain't been talking about the drill music anymore, right? He got to live that long? No, yeah. Okay. So you guys got through to him? Uh-huh. You think you got through to him? You told him like, no, this shit hard.

You like play them any of your songs or anything? If we find out like Eric Adams is out here like bumping like be loved up, bro, that'll be crazy. Yeah. Man. All right. I got to ask this. So I did an interview with Buba 100X. Yeah.

And he, I think, is one of the craziest fucking YouTubersers out there because he does these videos and he's done it to you where he basically plays your ops music for you. And he says all kinds of shit about whatever. and it's fucking crazy as fun. Whenever I say it, I'm like, holy fuck. I would never even think in a million years to joke around with some of these dudes about that shit. I have all these friends who are in gangs and I don't make jokes about their ops all the time.

I actually think that's like totally off limits. Like T.R. T. rel. I know all these funny fucking gang terms I can say if I want. I don't say any of it. It's like off limits. You know, because it's like offensive. Yo, who was that I can just.

too funny man yeah but like how how do you feel about that kind of content you think he's is he crossing a line at all there or you thought it was all in good fun yeah it's all good fun man sometimes you just got to have fun with it man you can't for me got content from bro for me he'd be doing this thing right yeah so we want them know it'd be regular like for me you say something we get on them uh yeah that's cool you see diggers we beat his eyes though right so yeah he thought it could be playing around or we cool. Yeah, he'd be playing with fire though. He'd be letting people put him in the trash can and shit.

You see, they get him a little hard. They just hit him a little hard, though. I'll ravey door. They kick of content, man. Because he's laying motherfuckers put him in the trash can for jokes. I'm worried about him in public. I'm like, is somebody going to come up to you at the fucking TGI Fridays and try to fuck your hair up and shit?

You know, like, I hope they don't think they can just clown you. Oh, nah, listen, because when he was beefing with the other, like, the other, like, I'm content creator? Yeah. Yo, he got serious with it. He said, yo, listen, I'm outside. You feel what I'm? You've got to be, man.

You want to be a YouTuber these days? It's just like being a rapper. He's no punk, you know? You can't be a punk. Yeah. Nah. Nah, I mean, he's outside with it, man. Yo, bro, listen, I got to ask you this, right?

So I think I could promote it, right? Like, like, and post it on freaking Facebook. Yo, Ice Spice team is canceling shows that was once for 5KK. They're now asking for 15K. And then towards the end, like, they said, like, oh, like, she's canceling tour would be loved because she feels like she's a bigger R. now then be loved. Now, do you feel like that's true or too, is that promoter just capping?

I don't know. Like, she ended up not really being on my tour. And for me, I guess that I don't know. But... Do you feel that right now she's a bigger artist than you? Because I would say, no, but, you know, but hey, you know. I mean, she's famous, man. So is it no hard feelings, like in terms of her pulling out and deciding to do something different?

No, no hard feelings. Man, come on, bro. Hell. Listen, again, again, listen, man, you my nigga, right, Belaver, bro.

But come on, bro. Like, tour already planned out. You feel me, man? Like, shit already set. Yeah. And you get a hot song. And now it's like, oh, no,

no, no, like, I ain't doing it. Come on, bro. Like, that's at least, if Nala, you're not tripping on it, but, like, that's at least grimy.

It's a, I mean, I would never have I did that boy. Yeah. For me, it's all. It's what it is. For me, it's cool. I'm going to be taking a knife for, like, my friends in this industry.

Oh, for me. Right, because let's be real. You guys doing the tour together. It's not like your fucking best friends anyway. It's like you're basically doing a, it's mutually beneficial to you at a certain point. We're going on tour together because we feel like we could help each other by exposing each other to each other's fan bases. And then she goes super viral and she decides she wants to do something else.

It's like, well, fair play, whatever the fuck you want to do. So you didn't like it when you did. Drake disster? He did? You think that bar was for her? He said she attended when you play that shit on mute. And a lot of people thought that, they thought that was about her.

She did too, but she responded back to it. She did, yeah, she clapped back. Yeah. I don't really think. I don't know, man. That's, I don't know. We're trying to turn this under the Wendy Williams show. But, bro, listen, right?

Again, I'm not in the Bronx, right? Yeah. So, so, like, tell me this, right? Now, what was the, Bronx reaction when Drake flew out in Ice Spice. Now, I think at that time, right? You feel me? You know, like there was another Bronx rapper.

You feel me? You know, who I also fuck with professing his love to her on, like, IG. And then when Drake, like, flew her out, I feel like, you know, you know, like that kind of like put those things on hold her right. But like, like, give me, like, the general reaction to when Drake flew her out. Like, that shit was like, whoa, what's going on here, right? Whoa. What's going on here? Yeah, you have to be there.

Swayzee comments, man. All the reactions is right there. Nah, but if Drake flies you out, that doesn't hurt your value on the dating market, right? Uh-huh. I think that, like, you know, that's... Hey, Drake flew out. You would, like, Drake fly your girl out right now. Who?

And you would take it right back. Hey, man. I don't know. I don't know. Bro, it's Drake men, man. I don't know. It's Drake, though, man. But, bro.

What should be? Listen, if, let's say Drake wants to, like, take my girl, let's say where, like, to Bali. Now, now. Now. What am I to do? Take care of the kid? Yeah. Would be a dad? Hell no.

It's not happening. You're staying home. This is just music, though, you're going to. It was just music. Hey, man. You can make music anywhere. You can send me a verse. Send this motherfucker drink a verse.

Take a fit. Right up in there. You don't kind of make music in Bali, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Now, but, yo, but speaking of, like, another, like, um, Brontah female, right? I think you, Cardi beat and Dougie,

you, Cardi and Dougie, like, perform at Summer Jam, right? Yeah. Yo, now, y'all win super viral, right, for like a 50-second clip. Because when Cardi came out, bro, I love Dougie, but he's out there wild and all. And you're like, bro, chill, bro, chill, man. Who was your reaction to, like, what did you?

I'm talking about wilder, man, fooling me? Like, doing this thing. I said lost control out there. You start waking out. On stage with Cardi B, yeah. Yeah, it's like with the time, man. I talked about to stick to the script, we gotta do this. Lock him real quick.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. What was Cardi B like, though? What would she be? What was she like, like being around her? I don't know. She's saying anything to you about the music and shit?

Yeah, she's cool. She's cool. She's from the Bronx. Right. Yeah. like she's mad cool with it, you know? Yeah, she got that Bronx vibe. Right, definitely.

Yo, listen, man, there's a, yo, the Bronx finally got is Jesus. Who is that? Maddie Jee's. He died and came back. That nigga Jesus, man. Bro, speak on that. Now, did you report on that?

The fake death? Yes. Bro, you want to know it's funny? He didn't he and said, yeah. So go ahead. I knew he faked his death. Really? Yeah.

Wow. Because he's stupid. Bro, how you, bro, first of all, this, he don't even take drugs. Yeah. He don't take drugs. How are he overdosing? You know what I'm trying to say? Like, he, bro, this kid do not take drugs, bro.

Yeah, right? Because, like, not. He's a regular kid. He'd just be cocaine. I met him in real life, bro. Yeah. He went to everything, bro. I mean, like, he came to the projects.

He was scared, digger. I sent that photo to it. It was you ride to him, right? Yo, he was in his projects, like a scared. Could you take a white gang member serious? Yeah. It takes all kinds. Yeah, this.

Yeah. Yeah, this one, you know. You could take a white person's gang members serious. Right. Is it harder? It's like a little bad. A little mobble. A little bit.

Ah, it's just, for me, bro. It's white. Like, white people would have for me. They be on that. Right. You think that, like, New York would be one. except a white drill rapper though yes

Mabu Yeah I lose Mabu but they don't really take them serious No Nah they don't take them serious Is he really like Does that count as drill Because I don't seem really like

Like just too many like you know Like dad niggas or try to you know I don't know Yeah Yo Here but let's actually pivot this right Okay Um

So, Yo, I'm not Listen, so like, Misunderstood, right? Yeah. It's called, right? Now, like,

here, was that like an EP or or, or, a full album? Nah, that was like a doorway EP. A throwaway?

Yeah. What's the main album dropping, though? Like, when's like the main shit dropping? 20, 23. When? Like, January, February?

Nah, yeah, like, December. Don't let us wait, man. What, December 223? Yeah.

Nah, come on, man. Now, before that, before December 2023. Yeah, I'll be looking out for it. You got any more op questions? No, here, right? So, no, no. So I do want to talk about the naughty bop. Now, like, do you feel like that shit is just going to fall

or is that shit just all in play in terms of the Bronx and his music scene? So for the record, this is like a dance that some kids came up with to make fun of some kid who got stabbed to death and they're going like this and like making a stabbing motion. If I have a nigger one of my men's come up to me and mark me and do that, I'm going to slap the shit out with them. Anybody. Like me personally, I grew up as like, you mocking yourself.

Like, don't mark yourself, bro. Like, don't do any of that. Like, for me, that's like somebody dissing somebody that got shot in the head, right? You want to mark them? you learn a nigger click at your head saying do you for me do that that's unacceptable and i'm trying to well perp to me everybody else do it but me i just think that's mocking yourself so i wouldn't do that it's really interesting because that video keeps getting removed from youtube which is kind of like that shit happens in the uk all the time to their really like

crazy-ass gangster drill music but in new york you haven't really seen that i'm not sure if it was youtube or the person who uploaded it or who wanted to take it down but apparently that crossed a certain line. Yeah, definitely. Right. No. Okay, right? And then I see, though, like you tease your first off, bro, like, I'm still mad that, like, you haven't dropped this yet.

Yeah. Bro, this, you know, so, like, it's like a diss towards, like, 41, right? Now, like, those are, like, the same dudes in, like, who, like, did, you know, like, not the pop song, right? Now, bro, first off, bro, why haven't you dropped that shit yet? but the 41 this or 4-1 diss i don't think i'll agree

here here i think you dropped a snippet on your IG like five months ago right i think it's like you dissing you know you know um like i'm kind of rich in them right now that shit goes super stupid are you like ever going to drop it or nah like it's squash now you know you know like it's done. I don't know. I don't know what's on. Okay. I don't know what's so you took a while. Now, I mean, but, yo, bro.

They're trying to get them out of here. Oh, really? Yeah, I just got a text. They're trying to wrap it up just so, you know. He said they're trying to eat about it. Yeah. You got anything else? No, man, bro.

Big fan, my nigga. I fucking love your shit, my nigga. You know, I just keep on striving. You know, also, too, man. I fucking applaud you, my nigga for getting the fuck out the Bronx. You feel me, man? No, yeah. You know, bro, because there's mad niggas

who were just like signed deals and shit and, you know, and it just still, you know. Oh, no, I do want to ask you this, though. I bought the Shot EK 200K views in two minutes. Now, bro. Now, again, shot EK did say that it's his label, who, right? But what was like your reaction?

You, like, always know, know that, like, there were, like, Bronx, like, you know, you know, again, like, not shot EK, right, but there were Bronx rappers who was out here, like, fake and views? Like, was this a thing, or were you shot when you seen that shit? It was never a thing, but labels do be on that, though. That's true. I know for 100% fact, he's not on a computer putting fake views on you.

Yeah, of course not. For 100% fact. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah, man, you know. Like, I know that was his label. Like, they probably, for me, that's what labels be on. No. Russian, doing this, doing that.

and didn't just be doing extra for me. But I know for sure that wasn't him and I, but that, it was dumb funny though. That was wild, bro. But that was dumb, funny though. It's just crazy that we live in an era where the fans won't let you get away with some shit like that. Yeah, hell, though, hell though.

The fair's gonna go crazy, man. Yeah. Yo, last question, right? So, speaking of the Shah E.K. little shit, who in the Bronx right now do you suspect is buying fake views? I don't even I don't even really be known

Yeah I can't buying fake views It's crazy, bro I swear Like I don't really Like I never really saw nobody Pay a nigga for fake views

Yeah Pay Like That's some shit that they do Under the covers In bed at night They're not They're not sharing it

With the homies I don't think Nah yeah For sure Though That's tricky Definitely All right

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